Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Kent Briggs wrote: NoOp wrote: Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'. Yeah I did that for now. But the wait cursor has a legitimate purpose to show a page is still loading so that functionality is now gone. But at least the visible annoyance is gone while reading my newsgroups. I eagerly await the bug fix. Kent, nine times (or more) out of ten, if the screen is not showing the web page you are expecting, it's because SM is still downloading stuff. This activity should also show in the bottom line of the screen! So, you can either put up with the cursor being wrong when you have it in the wrong part of the screen when your not downloading stuff or you can have the cursor wrong when you are downloading stuff and have to look at the bottom line to check for activity!! Me? I don't care, one way or the other! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp wrote: Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'. Yeah I did that for now. But the wait cursor has a legitimate purpose to show a page is still loading so that functionality is now gone. But at least the visible annoyance is gone while reading my newsgroups. I eagerly await the bug fix. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Kent Briggs wrote: NoOp wrote: Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'. Yeah I did that for now. But the wait cursor has a legitimate purpose to show a page is still loading so that functionality is now gone. But at least the visible annoyance is gone while reading my newsgroups. I eagerly await the bug fix. should I change it back to true? -- ~Vink ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. I've got the same problem since upgrading to 2.8. I can make it go away by pressing Esc but I have to do that constantly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/20/2012 01:14 PM, Kent Briggs wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. I've got the same problem since upgrading to 2.8. I can make it go away by pressing Esc but I have to do that constantly. Kent, open 'about:config' and in the 'about:config' search bar enter: cursor that will bring up 'ui.use_activity_cursor' - double-click 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to set it to 'false'. The Preference will then show: ui.use_activity_cursor user setboolean false Close about:config and you shouldn't have the problem any further. See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 [Bug 727414 - Busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news (ui.use_activity_cursor = true) ] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? i had 2 mouses, but now only 1 uno cordless mouse 2 uno english (international) keyboard (with cord) 3 uno spanish cordless keyboard 4 uno microsoft vx1000 webcam 1-3 all logitech -- If I had any humility I would be perfect. -- Ted Turner [gerardjan@gershwin ~]$ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? And here it is Monday morning.and I'm back to the flashing icon...except in the message screen of Mail Newsgroup screen or in anywhere in this Compose screen! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? and now I'm back to the flashing cursor!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? and now I'm back to the flashing cursor!! Using SM 2.8 and Windows XP Pro 32 bit I toggled ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config from true to false and have no flashing cursor since, but then it is only Sunday morning here for me in Nebraska,USA. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Workaround Found] Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/17/2012 10:04 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: ... b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 [Bug 727414 - Busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news (ui.use_activity_cursor = true) ] Setting 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false works for me. I've added comments to the bug report. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
JAS wrote: Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't thathttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? I am having the same problem since I upgraded to SM 2.8 from Sm 2.7.2 and it is very annoying. I am using Win XP PRO and have never changed any fonts. The problem at times does not start at the onset of reading the messages I have in the newsgroup but all at once will start and then it is present in all mail not just the newsgroup. I have to shut down the composer and then restart it for it to go away but then it is back in due time. Composer!! Who said they had problem in Composer?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. I haven't been seeing this in the Mac version, but I am seeing an issue where SM no longer automatically returns to Open state from Minimize to Dock on opening a file from the Finder or clicking a link in an e-mail. I've submitted a bug on that. Sounds like there are some odd interface issues running around in 2.8, apparently different ones for different platforms. Rufus, this Mac problem of SM not re-opening from the Dock has been mentioned in the last week or so and I seem to remember a solution/work-around having been found. Have you checked the posts here over the last week or fortnight or so?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: JAS wrote: Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't thathttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? I am having the same problem since I upgraded to SM 2.8 from Sm 2.7.2 and it is very annoying. I am using Win XP PRO and have never changed any fonts. The problem at times does not start at the onset of reading the messages I have in the newsgroup but all at once will start and then it is present in all mail not just the newsgroup. I have to shut down the composer and then restart it for it to go away but then it is back in due time. Composer!! Who said they had problem in Composer?? As I posted a couple of minutes ago, I think I now know what the reference to Composer is about!! Maybe! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp schreef: On 03/16/2012 05:35 AM, Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't thathttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Yes, that looks to be the one. Thanks. Gary I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. I had a animated (ani)tumbling hourglass as wait-icon-cursor, that was completly unworkable for clicking maasages. I replaced it with the standard XP wait-cursor, the white arrow with a small hourglass beside it. At least I now had a pointing arrow back, that was more usable, but I got very tired of this delaying cursor behaviour and uninstalled SM 2.8. I will stay with SM 2.7.2 until this bug is fixed. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. I haven't been seeing this in the Mac version, but I am seeing an issue where SM no longer automatically returns to Open state from Minimize to Dock on opening a file from the Finder or clicking a link in an e-mail. I've submitted a bug on that. Sounds like there are some odd interface issues running around in 2.8, apparently different ones for different platforms. Rufus, this Mac problem of SM not re-opening from the Dock has been mentioned in the last week or so and I seem to remember a solution/work-around having been found. Have you checked the posts here over the last week or fortnight or so?? Yes - I check here daily...don't recall it being mentioned. I don't see the wait cursor issue with my Macs. But the issue of SM not fronting the Space in which is open is a new to observation for SM 2.8, to me. I suspect the two are related. If there's a workaround (other than additional clicking by the user) I'd like to know what it is. Anyway, I've gone back to 2.7.2 and both problems are not present in that version. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: NoOp schreef: On 03/16/2012 05:35 AM, Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't thathttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Yes, that looks to be the one. Thanks. Gary I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. I had a animated (ani)tumbling hourglass as wait-icon-cursor, that was completly unworkable for clicking maasages. I replaced it with the standard XP wait-cursor, the white arrow with a small hourglass beside it. At least I now had a pointing arrow back, that was more usable, but I got very tired of this delaying cursor behaviour and uninstalled SM 2.8. I will stay with SM 2.7.2 until this bug is fixed. Regards, Zanqeutil I've gone back to 2.7.2 as well...for different OS X interface break reasons, but just as annoying ones. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: JAS wrote: Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't thathttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? I am having the same problem since I upgraded to SM 2.8 from Sm 2.7.2 and it is very annoying. I am using Win XP PRO and have never changed any fonts. The problem at times does not start at the onset of reading the messages I have in the newsgroup but all at once will start and then it is present in all mail not just the newsgroup. I have to shut down the composer and then restart it for it to go away but then it is back in due time. Composer!! Who said they had problem in Composer?? MY BAD!! I meant mail news. Pardon my stupidity. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Jens Hatlak wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens If there is anything a user can definitely workaround it's security, IMO. If a user is savvy and knows what and what not to do to stay safe, then yeah - going back to 2.7.2 to avoid a really annoying interface bug (or two, in my Mac case) is just as viable a workaround as telling someone to get over it for the sake of security. My PPC machines are stuck with SM 2.0.14 now, and I'm not sweating that. In the end it's up to the user to know their own risks, and to make their own decisions. I've gone back to 2.7.2 myself...when the OS X interface bugs that are annoying me are fixed (the Minimize and Spaces ones, I'm not seeing the wait cursor issue), I'll move up. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens Jens, come on, SM 2.7.2 is not that old and 2.8 repaires some vulnerability's. There are threats in the waiting we still don't know yet. But they sure will be repaired when they are discovered :-) But I absolutely agree, security has or should always have priority. But I don't agree as you state something as simply as a busy cursor I read a lot of newsgroups. I found it irritating and distracting. So I decided to revert back to SM 2.7.2 I did not know about this setting: ui.use_activity_cursor. I will set it to false and see what it does. Thanks for pointing me to this one. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp schreef: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM 2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3. It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize). When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring. Sometimes the stop button is greyed out. I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show this behaviour. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
GerardJan schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: NoOp schreef: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM 2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3. It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize). When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring. Sometimes the stop button is greyed out. I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show this behaviour. Regards, Zanqeutil In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem. Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: GerardJan schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: NoOp schreef: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM 2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3. It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize). When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring. Sometimes the stop button is greyed out. I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show this behaviour. Regards, Zanqeutil In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem. Zanqeutil Gerardjan sometimes answers an un-asked question. At other times he can ramble, or even (very rarely) supply some useful information. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: GerardJan schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: NoOp schreef: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Yes I have noticed exactly the same problem after upgrading from SM 2.7.2 to SM 2.8. Windows XP SP3. It's very annoying. I use an animated rotating hourglas as wait icon cursor. It's difficult to click new threads/messages with the wait cursor. It happens in all the newsgroups/newsservers, not in email. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 I have placed a stop button on the Email Window Bar (via customize). When I click the stop button the wait-cursor disappears but when I click a new thread/message the wait-cursor is there again. It's very tiring. Sometimes the stop button is greyed out. I also have a Seamonkey Portable 2.7.2 and this version does not show this behaviour. Regards, Zanqeutil In Fedora you can set your font´s contrast as in RedHat Your answer makes no sence, I don't use Linux and our problem has nothing to do with font settings. It's a SM 2.8 newsgroup problem. Zanqeutil Gerardjan sometimes answers an un-asked question. At other times he can ramble, or even (very rarely) supply some useful information. s/ramble/pasear -- Gertjan Take me drunk, I'm home again! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? I am having the same problem since I upgraded to SM 2.8 from Sm 2.7.2 and it is very annoying. I am using Win XP PRO and have never changed any fonts. The problem at times does not start at the onset of reading the messages I have in the newsgroup but all at once will start and then it is present in all mail not just the newsgroup. I have to shut down the composer and then restart it for it to go away but then it is back in due time. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Herrmann Hofer schreef: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Thanks for pointing to this bug. Bug 727414 - Get busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news I use Seamonkey as my primary newsreader, but with version 2.8 this irritating behaviour makes it useless and unworkable as a newsreader. So I may go back to SM 2.7.2 if there is no fix available. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: Herrmann Hofer schreef: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Thanks for pointing to this bug. Bug 727414 - Get busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news I use Seamonkey as my primary newsreader, but with version 2.8 this irritating behaviour makes it useless and unworkable as a newsreader. So I may go back to SM 2.7.2 if there is no fix available. Regards, Zanqeutil i am on 2.7.1 now sincerely -- Gertjan Take me drunk, I'm home again! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/16/2012 05:35 AM, Herrmann Hofer wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Well, isn't that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 ? Yes, that looks to be the one. Thanks. Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 3/15/2012 4:12 PM NoOp submitted the following: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. YES. Win XP-Pro Build ID Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 3/16/2012 2:49 PM W3BNR submitted the following: On 3/15/2012 4:12 PM NoOp submitted the following: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. YES. Win XP-Pro Build ID Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 Dangit - I changed back to 2.7.2 and forgot. I meant 2.8 in previous msg. -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ One of the greatest pleasures of growing old is the freedom we enjoy from life insurance salesmen. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
