[Biofuel] Fw: Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry
I think the sentence below is key: Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once the body stores 1.1 pounds of these aminos per 150 pounds body weight, NO DISEASE will spread through the body. That means it can stop the spread of virus. This protocol was used for HIV research and it proved just that. It stopped the spread of HIV as well as any other viruses, in fact all viruses. BtW when you go to google books just enter vaccines as search. There are oodles of books that display all the text as they are older. In this case they are the ones you want as there was extensive debate in England re Jenner. Lots of great statistics and observations. Kirk Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry Still Remains Undisputed Filed Under Cancer, Natural Healing, Natural Solutions, Nutrition, Organic, Sea Salts By Emjae Johnson Research that is “undisputed” is evidence that is accepted as truth. Have you ever wondered why undisputed scientific research that was excellent enough to be awarded the NOBEL Prize has never been used, even ignored by the medical industry? Cause of Cancer Discovered Over 70 Years Ago Cancer is now the number one killer among all diseases in the U.S. Experts tell us that 1 in 3 will get some form of cancer. The medical industry has little to offer the cancer patient in the way of effective treatments, in fact, they have been offering the same three treatments for more than 40 years, chemotherapy, radiation and surgical removal. Even so, rarely will you hear a doctor reveal to their patients the truth about cancer treatment survival rates. They most likely will not do so because they are so very low. The National Cancer Institute has stated that the survival rate for Chemotherapy is less than 5.9% and Radiation treatments less than 12.8%. These are startling statistics but yet, generally, no other treatments are offered to the Cancer patient. I cannot speak for anyone else but when I went to school less that 13% was considered a failing grade! It is a fact that over 75 years ago, Dr. Otto Warburg discovered the cause of Cancer was due to a lack of oxygen at the cellular level causing a low pH (acidity) at the cellular level and was awarded the NOBEL prize TWICE for his research. It seems logical that if this research is true, that our pH, or oxygen level, should be tested on a regular basis by our medical professionals. If keeping a high oxygen level in our bodies will help keep cancer from forming in our bodies why are we not being educated by the medical industry to do so? It would truly only be a matter of some dietary changes and lifestyle recommendations. It is hard to say what the benefit is to not informing the public of this research. Additionally, two more scientific minds, Dr. Keith Brewer and H.E. Sartori, built upon the research of Dr. Otto Warburg and found that raising a cell’s oxygen or pH to 8.0 creates an environment that a cancer cell cannot survive in. In other words, a cancer cell thrives in an arena of low oxygen, sort of like the carp that live in polluted ponds. Once the cell’s oxygen is raised the cancer cell does not feel at home anymore to the point that it dies. It seems that the answer to surviving cancer is to raise your body’s pH, or oxygen level. [It should be stated here that H.E. Sartori was imprisoned for twenty-five years for claiming he had a cure for cancer. He now resides overseas and continues his research on cancer.] Mineral Ascorbates: Effect on Heart Disease and Diabetes Dr. Linus Pauling, another NOBEL Prize winner, discovered that the human body needs ascorbates and no longer produces its own (nutrients which cost only pennies a day to use.) These ascorbates are essential for healing and restoring our connective tissue, that would be the glue that holds us together. Without ascorbates you could say we are pretty much all falling apart. Further, Dr. Linus Pauling with the help of Dr. Mathias Rath discovered that only 3 grams a day of mineral ascorbates were sufficient to prevent heart disease, the #2 killer. Ascorbates have been shown to help diabetes. At the famous Stanford University Med School in California, diabetic Dr. Dice found that by taking ascorbates on a regular basis he could reduce his requirement for insulin by 2.5 units for each additional gram of ascorbate he took . By the 23rd day of this regimen he was taking 11 grams of ascorbates daily and his insulin requirement had dropped from 32 units to only 5 units per day. Spread of All Viruses & Arteriosclerotic Build-up Halted with Addition of Two Amino Acids Doctors Rath and Pauling also expanded on the work of other Nobelists, Brown and Goldstein for yet another solution - that two amino acids, L-Lysine and L-Proline taken with mineral ascorbates prevents the arteriosclerotic build-up and even reverse it. There is nothing else know to man that will do this. Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once the bo
[Biofuel] free energy solved
I solved the Bessler wheel. Free energy is a reality. BTW not an April 1 joke. http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2831 Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090401/6ca01f8f/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] crosspost [Longevity] Irradiated Foods Cause Severe Neurological Damage
Irradiated Foods Cause Severe Neurological Damage Wednesday, April 01, 2009 by: Sherry Baker, Health Sciences Editor http://www.naturalnews.com/025971.html (NaturalNews) In a study just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, scientists from the University of Wisconsin-Madison (UW-Madison) report on cats developing severe neurological symptoms due to a degradation of myelin, the fatty insulator of nerve fibers called axons. Because myelin facilitates the conduction of nerve signals, when it is lost or damaged there can be impairment of sensation, movement, thinking and other functions, depending on what particular nerves are affected. This loss of myelin is found in several disorders of the central nervous system in humans -- the best known being multiple sclerosis (MS). So what caused the cats to develop neurological problems? Although the researchers' statement to the media practically buries the fact, a close read shows the animals were fine until fed irradiated food. What's more, when they were taken off the irradiated diet, the animals' nervous systems began healing. The new study took place when the researchers were faced with reports of a mysterious illness in pregnant cats. A commercial company had been testing various diets on the animals to see how the food impacted growth and development in the felines. The food used, it turns out, had been irradiated. Irradiation, which is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for many human as well as animal foods, involves exposing foods briefly to a radiant energy source such as gamma rays or electron beams in order to kill bacteria. Some of the cats eating the irradiated cat food exhibited very severe neurological symptoms, including movement disorders, vision loss and even paralysis. "After being on the diet for three to four months, the pregnant cats started to develop progressive neurological disease," said Ian Duncan, a professor of medical sciences at the UW-Madison School of Veterinary Medicine and an authority on demyelinating diseases, in a statement to the media. The sick cats were shown to have widely distributed the very severe demyelization of the central nervous system. Their neurological symptoms were very much like those seen in people with MS and other demyelization disorders. When the felines were taken off the irradiated foods, they began to recover slowly. However, according to Dr. Duncan, the restored myelin sheaths were no longer as thick as normal myelin sheaths. The finding is important, the scientists concluded in their study, because it shows the central nervous system retains the ability to reestablish myelin -- so strategies that could be developed to spur the growth of new myelin sheaths anywhere nerves themselves are preserved could be a possible therapy for treating a host of severe neurological diseases in humans. "The key thing is that it absolutely confirms the notion that remyelinating strategies are clinically important," Duncan stated. Curiously, although the scientists' related their findings to possible human applications, they were quick to dismiss a possible connection between people, irradiated food and health risk. "We think it is extremely unlikely that (irradiated food) could become a human health problem," Duncan explained in the media statement. "We think it is species specific." However, not everyone agrees irradiated food is fine for humans or animals. According to the Center for Food Safety, studies have shown irradiation produces volatile toxic chemicals such as benzene and toluene, which are known or suspected to cause cancer and birth defects. A 2001 study found an association between colon tumors and 2-alkylcyclobutanones (2-ACB's), a new chemical compound detected only in foods that have been irradiated. For more information: http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/... http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/23/n... http://www.fda.gov/opacom/catalog/i... About the author Sherry Baker is a widely published writer whose work has appeared in Newsweek, Health, the Atlanta Journal and Constitution, Yoga Journal, Optometry, Atlanta, Arthritis Today, Natural Healing Newsletter, OMNI, UCLA's "Healthy Years" newsletter, Mount Sinai School of Medicine's "Focus on Health Aging" newsletter, the Cleveland Clinic's "Men's Health Advisor" newsletter and many others. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090401/94b53f1e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] List
Been away from the internet for a while. Is the list really this quiet, 1 post in March? Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090401/4d18a1d1/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] alternative to vaccines
Perhaps if people knew there are substances to cure flu and other viruses (pox et cetera) vaccination would lose its charm. http://fungiperfecti.com/mycotech/index.html fascinating presentation Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20081010/3683754d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] what the bailout is really about
No foreign banker left behind? It would do more to restore confidence if it actually provided relief to non bankers. It is again corporate welfare under the guise of public welfare. Privatise the profits and socialize the costs. Ever wonder why the DOW forges on whilst Amex tanks? Perhaps it has something to do with the Fed Reserve Bank of New york purchasing stocks - but not Amex stocks Only the New York Times thought it newsworthy just as they were the only paper to refer to the FBI connection to the first twin towers attempted bombing. Its all a fraud. Kirk Jon Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mhm. Surprisingly, what it's really REALLY about is an attempt to restore investor confidence and get the market back on its feet as a result. Now then. Aren't we glad it got defeated? --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Kirk McLoren wrote: From: Kirk McLoren Subject: [Biofuel] what the bailout is really about To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:24 PM http://market-ticker.denninger.net/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20081001/c736f2de/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20081001/2f184911/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20081001/72ccbc12/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] what the bailout is really about
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[Biofuel] GALLAWAY
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[Biofuel] America's Most Endangered Foods
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Re: [Biofuel] Eureka! Cliff experiment pulls plug on 300 year old lawof physics
capillary transport is not pumped by atmospheric pressure. I dont understand why this is a new discovery. Thomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This explains how trees can raise water to their tops beyond the 32 feet >limit said an ecstatic Mr Fletcher. He believes that the discovery also >suggests a > mechanism by which all life on earth has evolved from the ground." The generally accepted theory explaining the movement of water in plants is The Cohesion-Tension Theory. The movement of water to heights of 20 meters to the tops of oak trees and even 125 meters to the tops of tall redwoods is a solar powered event. Water is a polar molecule. The positively charged hydrogens of one water molecule are attracted to the negatively charged oxygen of neighboring water molecules. The cohesion resulting from these attractions is so great that the tensile strength in a thin column of water can be as much as 140Kg per square cm. (2000Lbs per square inch). This means that a negative pressure of 140Kg per square cm is required to pull the column apart. Water loss (transpiration) powers water movement through plants. As water evaporates from a leaf, water from tracheids and vessels moves into the leaf. They, in turn are linked to others, forming a long, continuous stream of water reaching all the way down into the root hairs, and even into the surrounding soil. Increase transpiration ---> increase water uptake and the rate of water movement in plants. Tom - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Eureka! Cliff experiment pulls plug on 300 year old lawof physics > Eureka! > Cliff experiment pulls plug on 300 year old law of physics > _http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/exper/EUREKA.gif_ > (http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/exper/EUREKA.gif) > > > A Revolutionary breakthrough claimed by a Paignton man is to be > investigated by top scientists. Ideas man Andrew K Fletcher claims he has > disproved a > fundamental law of > physics dating back to the 17th century. And impressed by the historic > experiment at Overgang cliff, Brixham, to raise water 78 feet without the > support > of any artificial aids, > John Hunt, Senior forestry Officer for Devon and Somerset who witnessed > the > experiment's success last Friday said: 'It was quite impressive. > > The rule that water will only rise 32 feet under atmospheric pressure > when > in a column was effectively disproved." > > But Mr Hunt explained that he is a professional forester not a scientist > and > a report on the experiment would be sent to the Forestry commission 's > Alice > Holt Research Station, > near Farnham in Surrey, for further investigation. Mr Fletcher's > experiment > involves a long water filled plastic tube, strung up the cliffside with > both > open ends placed in two filled demijohns. A small amount of a salt > solution > is added at the top of the tube before it is completely filled with > water, > this acts as a liquid pulley says Mr Fletcher, lifting water from one > demijohn > to the other, thereby disproving Torriceli's 17th century law. > This explains how trees can raise water to their tops beyond the 32 feet > limit." > said an ecstatic Mr Fletcher. He believes that the discovery also > suggests a > mechanism by which all life on earth has evolved from the ground. > > The Experiment at Brixham Overgang Cliffs where water flowed vertical up > a > single 6 mm bore tubing using 10 mils of salt solution, demonstrating > that a > tiny amount of denser solution can lift effortlessly many thousands of > times it > âs own volume in water without any artificial aids, demonstrating clearly > a > non living physical cause of bulk flow in plants trees, animals and > humans. > The 10 metre limit for lifting water clearly needs some serious revision. > View > The Historic Event on Youtube as it unfolded all those years ago and ask > why > has this important discovery been ignored for so long. > > VIDEO > _http://www.metacafe.com/watch/786493/water_flowing_up_a_cliff_to_24_metres_wi > th_no_pump_experimen/#_ > (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/786493/water_flowing_up_a_cliff_to_24_metres_with_no_pump_experimen/#) > > Online experiment details: > > _http://www.the-tree.org.uk/TreeTalk/3Spring2003/Gravity/gravity1.htm_ > (http://www.the-tree.org.uk/TreeTalk/3Spring2003/Gravity/gravity1.htm) > > > _http://www.myspace.com/inclined_bed_therapy_ > (http://www.myspace.com/inclined_bed_therapy) > > > Andrew K Fletcher > > > Online Theory with Gif animation: > _http://www.the-tree.org.uk/TreeTalk/3Spring2003/Gravity/gravity1.htm_ > (http://www.the-tree.org.uk/TreeTalk/3Spring2003/Gravity/gravity1.htm) > > > > Medical Physics Newsletter publications: > > _http://groups.iop.org/ME/archive_newsletter2002010.htm_ > (http://groups.iop.org/ME/archive_newsletter2002010.htm) > > _http://groups.iop.org/ME/archive_newsletter2003014.htm_ > (http://groups.iop.or
[Biofuel] bitter cold and lots of snow on the way for 08-09
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[Biofuel] Dutch believe Iran about to be attacked
According to a leading newspaper published in the Netherlands, the Dutch intelligence agency recently recalled operatives from Iran in response to information that a United States attack on the Islamic Republic is "imminent." More: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127444 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080902/f62d08ec/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] T. Boone Pickens wants your water
How do you maintain a positive attitude in life? This world is so full of greedy manipulative people it gets me down. Kirk :( Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/T_Boone_Pickens_wants_your_water.html T. Boone Pickens wants your water By Timothy P. Carney Examiner Columnist | 8/21/08 7:10 PM Texas oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens is about to make a killing by selling water he doesn't own. As he does it, it will be praised as a planet-friendly wind project. After he pulls it off, the media will deride it as craven capitalism. In truth, it is one the most audacious examples of politics for profit, showing how big government helps the biggest business steal from the rest of us. The plotline behind Pickens' water-and-wind scheme is almost too rich to believe. If it were a movie script, reviewers would dismiss it as over-the-top. The basic story amounts to this: Pickens, thanks to favors from state lawmakers whose campaigns he funded, has created a new government whose only voters are two of his employers; this has empowered Pickens to more cheaply pump water from an aquifer and, by use of eminent domain, seize land across 11 counties in order to pipe the water to Dallas. To win environmentalist approval of this hardly "sustainable" practice, he has piggybacked this water project onto a windmill project pitched as an alternative to oil. Pickens' scheme is a perfect demonstration of why it's worth asking cui bono - who benefits - from regulatory and environmental initiatives. Last week, this column pointed out that Pickens, before his current lobbying blitz for increased federal support of wind power, built the largest wind farm in the world. I received dozens of responses from environmentalists and Pickens fans objecting to my implication that Pickens' profit from expanding wind subsidies ought to cast suspicion on his call for more wind subsidies. "Why should I care if someone's getting rich?" was the general gist, "windmills are good, and we need more of them." This objection is grounded in a good instinct: The profit motive, far from being evil, is the driving force behind most of our society's advances. But, especially when it comes to government plans involving your tax dollars, asking cui bono helps us unearth less desirable aspects of the scheme. Amid all the hype Pickens' windmill plan has gotten, the interesting part - the water part - has been mostly ignored, except for an excellent Business Week story by Susan Berfield and a column by Steve Milloy. Roberts County, Texas, sits atop the Ogallala Aquifer, a huge underground reservoir that stretches all the way to South Dakota. It's in Roberts County that T. Boone Pickens set aside eight acres from his ranch for drilling deep into the aquifer. Then he turned this parcel into a town, basically, with only two eligible voters - both of whom were his employees. (This required a change in Texas law in 2007 - a change facilitated no doubt by his $1.2 million in campaign contributions to Texas legislators in 2006). Then there was an election in this district, in which both voters voted to make this 8-acre municipality a special fresh-water district. Pickens' wholly owned government entity now can issue tax-free bonds (meaning he can borrow at a serious discount) and use the power of eminent domain to pressure landowners to sell - or to take their land if they hold out. The eminent domain power is key to building the pipeline that will run this water down to the Dallas area, where Pickens hopes to sell the water. If your land lies in the path of his proposed pipeline, you got a letter explaining that T. Boone wants to buy a stretch of your land - and explaining that he can use eminent domain if you resist. If this begins to sound too cutthroat to the public, Pickens just reminds journalists and politicians that following this water pipeline will be the transmission cables for Pickens' mammoth wind farm. Are you really going to side with some greedy holdout ranchers over the future of green power? Sure enough, the Sierra Club is now rallying behind this whole scheme. Nobody owns the aquifer - that would be too capitalist, of course - but in Texas, whoever has the water beneath his land can pump as much as he wants. The limits on this are usually pumping capacity (which requires money) and ability to sell it (which requires, among other things, pipelines). Pickens has cleared those hurdles, and now he can drain the aquifer faster than anyone ever before, future generations and other water users be damned. This is why, when presented with some big government program, it's worthwhile to ask who's getting rich - because you may find something interesting when you look below the surface. Examiner Columnist Timothy P. Carney is editor of the Evans-Novak Political Report. His Examiner Column appears on Fridays. __
Re: [Biofuel] Damage . . .
Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No they wontcontinue to grow. Immature corn is a delicacy. The bottom half of the ear should have something. If someone did something like that to me they would have bad luck. Take care Kirk robert and benita wrote: Hello everyone! It's been a strange season for gardening, with extended periods of cool weather, a LOT of rain and very few hot days. While we were in Quebec, our garden exploded with growth and I returned two weeks ago to find maize plants already towering over my head. The person who looked after our house said that the weather had finally turned warm, but as of Friday the maize looked like it still needed a couple of weeks to ripen in hot weather. But last night, someone went into our garden and trampled our maize plants. Many of the stems have been broken and all that effort I put into growing a good crop for my family, our neighbors and friends now lies on the ground. We harvested some of the cobs, but they're really not ready. Have any of you experienced something like this before? Will the cobs continue to ripen if we just leave them on the trampled stalks? (I think not, but at this point, what else can I do?) Any advice would be appreciated. I'm pretty discouraged right now. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" "The Long Journey" New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080831/af920d43/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080831/81bd6d3f/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Damage . . .
No they wontcontinue to grow. Immature corn is a delicacy. The bottom half of the ear should have something. If someone did something like that to me they would have bad luck. Take care Kirk robert and benita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone! It's been a strange season for gardening, with extended periods of cool weather, a LOT of rain and very few hot days. While we were in Quebec, our garden exploded with growth and I returned two weeks ago to find maize plants already towering over my head. The person who looked after our house said that the weather had finally turned warm, but as of Friday the maize looked like it still needed a couple of weeks to ripen in hot weather. But last night, someone went into our garden and trampled our maize plants. Many of the stems have been broken and all that effort I put into growing a good crop for my family, our neighbors and friends now lies on the ground. We harvested some of the cobs, but they're really not ready. Have any of you experienced something like this before? Will the cobs continue to ripen if we just leave them on the trampled stalks? (I think not, but at this point, what else can I do?) Any advice would be appreciated. I'm pretty discouraged right now. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" "The Long Journey" New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080831/af920d43/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Jonathan Swift quote
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. -Jonathan Swift, satirist (1667-1745) Understatement of the day: We have a lot of work to do to restore our Constitution & get our country back into the hands of "we the people." Washington DC seems to be completely detached from the idea that they're there to serve and enhance public good. Examples abound: forced vaccinations routinely spying on all citizens huge corporate bailouts war or threat of war on all who disagree with Washington neglect of infrastructure corporate tax cuts weakening of environmental protection totally insufficient healthcare of military returning from mid-East wars irradiation of food sludge & pesticides used on crops aerial spraying of populated areas rigged elections extremely expensive healthcare plus total emphasis on drugs for all ailments media used as propaganda tool no bid contracts huge prison population (#1 in the world) & ad infinitum -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080825/c6cc8f31/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] In Germany, ruddy-cheeked farmers achieve (green) energy independence]
Part of the "energy crisis" is simply big corporations wanting to keep their monopoly on energy production. Here's a good case in point of what could be happening across the US IF the powers that be were really interested in solving the "energy crisis." === In Germany, ruddy-cheeked farmers achieve (green) energy independence Freiamt residents produce 17 percent more electricity than they use, boosting their bottom line and proving that green isnât just for geeky idealists. By Mariah Blake| Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor/August 21, 2008 edition http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/2008/08/21/in-germany-ruddy-cheeked-farmers-achieve-green-energy-independence/ Freiamt, Germany Dawn was just breaking over the Black Forest when Helga Schneider climbed out of bed, tugged on her overalls and thick brown galoshes, and trudged out to the cow pen. She herded a dozen head into a tiled alcove strewn with straw and manure, and began fixing rubber hoses to swollen udders. Within minutes, milk was snaking through a maze of tubes to a copper-plated box the size of a cinder block, where the warmth was siphoned off and stored for heating everything from the Schneiderâs bath water to their home. Many residents of this farming village have also found creative ways to harvest energy, be it turning manure into biofuel or installing turbines in the local creek. Thanks to their ingenuity, Freiamt is not only energy independent, but produces 17 percent more power than20it uses. Itâs a feat that defies conventional ideas about energy â that big companies are key to a secure supply, that renewable sources can only meet a fraction of societyâs needs, that green energy is the d omain of liberals and idealists. âWeâre talking about a village of traditional farmers, and yet theyâre changing ideas about what is possible,â says Josef Pesch, CEO of FESA, a firm that develops community renewable-energy projects. âWhen it comes to renewables, Freiamt is a model for communities far and wide.â Last year, the village generated 14.3 million kilowatt hours of electricity, or 2.1 million more than it used. Thatâs enough to power 600 additional German homes. For locals, who make their living mainly from tourism and agriculture, the turn toward green energy was less about big ideals than finding new income streams that wouldnât harm the soil and forests. âWeâre no eco-rebels,â says Mayor Hannelore Reinbold-Mench. âWeâre simply a community making a living off the land and all it has to offer.â The idea first came in the late 1990s, when a group of investors from Hamburg started approaching farmers in Freiamt about leasing land for a wind farm. Locals werenât keen on outsiders harvesting their natural bounty. But a small group led by Ernst Leimer, who now heads the townâs wind energy association, began planting wind-measuring masts at promising sites. They also started holding town hall meetings in the hopes of rallying locals to build the project themselves. When word of the plan began filtering through the community, some residents protested, saying the windmills would=2 0blemish the landscape and hurt tourism. But as data from the masts rolled in, people began to grasp the financial potential, and support for the project grew. Eventually, as many as 1,000 of Freiamtâs 4,300 residents were showing up for information sessions. When the group began soliciting funds in mid-2001, it took only eight weeks to round up the $2.3 million down payment on two 400-foot-tall windmills. All of the money came from local investors. âLots of people know they can do something for the environment, but they donât,â says Mr. Leimer. âOur community took action. We did something for the environment and something for the next generation. At the same time, we did something for ourselves.â The turbines were finally built in fall 2001. The next year, they churned out enough electricity to power about 1,600 German homes. Within two years, investors were getting a 10 percent annual return â thanks to Germanyâs feed-in tariff law, which requires electricity-grid operators to buy renewable energy at a premium rate. The idea is to foster small-scale production of green energy. By 2003, Leimerâs group was laying plans for a third wind turb ine and eight photovoltaic solar-power generators. But when they started hunting for roof space to lease for solar panels, something curious happened. âPeople said, âItâs my roof. Why should I lease it to someone else rather than build my own solar-power system?ââ reca lls Ms. Reinbold-Mench. Before long, solar panels began cropping up on crumbling barns and old farmhouses all over town. Some residents also started venturing into other technologies. Today, Freiamt has four windmills, around 250 rooftop solar systems generating heat and electricity, and a handfu
Re: [Biofuel] Meet the Economist Who Thinks We're Doomed
I am amazed it has lasted as long as it has. How many of us would be in crises after a year of unemployment? The US, due to "free trade" has moved its manufacturing elsewhere - lock stock and barrel. Manufacturing is our "job" - our income. We4 keep spending yet have nothing to exchange. Small wonder the dollar is becoming toilet paper. Kirk Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Meet the Economist Who Thinks We're Doomed By Stephen Mihm, The New York Times Posted on August 18, 2008, Printed on August 18, 2008 http://www.alternet.org/story/95375/ On Sept. 7, 2006, Nouriel Roubini, an economics professor at New York University, stood before an audience of economists at the International Monetary Fund and announced that a crisis was brewing. In the coming months and years, he warned, the United States was likely to face a once-in-a-lifetime housing bust, an oil shock, sharply declining consumer confidence and, ultimately, a deep recession. He laid out a bleak sequence of events: homeowners defaulting on mortgages, trillions of dollars of mortgage-backed securities unraveling worldwide and the global financial system shuddering to a halt. These developments, he went on, could cripple or destroy hedge funds, investment banks and other major financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080818/14a86679/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Organic Similac: Formula for obesity
This shows the disregard of people, starting at an early age, by most of our corporate leaders. It is their "profits before people" belief system that distorts all of their behaviors into something inhumane. Corporations need to be regulated but too many of our politicians have been accepting their money and feel obliged to let the marketplace guide corporate decisions. This is turning out to be a total disaster. The FDA, whose mission is to protect and promote public health, has abdicated their responsibility. This article is just one example out of hundreds of failures. - (www.NaturalNews.com) Most mothers know that breast milk is best for baby, but there are some people who, perhaps for health reasons, need to find a safe alternative. In many instances, these moms look for an organic infant formula and are willing to pay top dollar to give their babies the best possible nutrition. Sadly, just because an infant formula is given the "organic" label doesn't necessarily mean that it is healthy. For example, a recent article in The New York Times revealed that the organic version of Similac infant formula is sweetened with cane sugar (sucrose) and is much sweeter than other infant formulas. While all infant formulas have some added sugars to aid in the digestion of proteins, other organic products use sugars like organic lactose, which is presumably a better match for what's found in breast milk and doesn't have the sweetness of sucrose. Most health-conscious readers are probably shaking their heads and thinking that it is nothing short of insanity to be adding sugar to baby formula when the U.S. is in the middle of an obesity epidemic. Were pediatricians actually consulted about what was put into this formula? Or was the product designed primarily by food chemists like the ones that create fast food strawberry milkshakes? [I think it was designed by bean counters.] According to a list of frequently asked questions on the FDA website, the FDA currently does not approve infant formula before it can be marketed. The FDA does require that infant formula contain minimum amounts of certain nutrients, and it does provide upper limits for some nutrients. Certain nutrients that are required to be included in any infant formula are protein, fat, linoleic acid, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E, vitamin K, thiamin (vitamin B1), riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin B6, vitamin B12, niacin, folic acid, pantothenic acid, vitamin C, calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, iron, zinc, manganese, copper, iodine, sodium, potassium and chloride. If cow's milk is not used for the formula, then biotin, choline and inositol must be included. Any substance that is generally recognized as safe may be used in infant formula in the United States. For now, that means that sugar can be used in baby formula in the U.S., and there is absolutely no upper limit to the amount of sugar that can be dumped into it. Europe, on the other hand, in light of the childhood obesity epidemic, has banned all sucrose from baby formula products beginning in 2009. According to the The New York Times article, Dr. Benjamin Caballero, director of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, doesn't think sucrose belongs in infant formula, either. Dr. Caballero believes that feeding children sweet things encourages them to eat more. He explains that babies and children generally prefer sweeter foods and will eat more of them than foods that aren't as sweet. While having babies eat more might be of interest to food corporations, parents need to be concerned with the health of their children. Concerns about obesity aren't the only problem with putting sugar in baby formula. If a baby's teeth are constantly exposed to sugar, this could result in tooth decay. Clearly, finding a safe infant formula is a daunting task. According to The Breastfeeding Task Force of Greater Los Angeles, there are many risks associated with using infant formula instead of breast milk. For example, formula feeding is responsible for up to 26% of insulin dependent diabetes mellitus in children. Middle-ear infections are three to four times more common in children who are fed infant formula, and children who are fed infant formula are also much more likely to be hospitalized due to bacterial infections. In addition to the health risks, some studies have shown that formula-fed babies don't do as well on intelligence tests as breast-fed babies. Moreover, sugar isn't the only undesirable thing turning up in infant formula. An NPR report indicates that certain formulas enhanced with omega-3 fatty acids may actually pose a health risk. Other reports warn about Bisphenol-A turning up in infant formulations. What is a new
[Biofuel] crosspost [no-forced-vaccination] GM surprise in the cereal box
Monsanto is out of control. They are a public menace. Kirk Ingrid Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The same atrocities have no doubt been committed in the United States as well from the very moment the clearly scientifically-illiterate HW Bush senior issued an Executive Order in 1992 proclaiming GM plants (soya, corn) to be substantially equivalent to its traditional counterparts and therefore not needing any special health safety study or testing.The concept of substantial equivalence the biotech lobby keeps harping on is by no means based on evidence-based science, but was coined by scientifically illiterate lawyers of the biotech industry, in particular Michael Taylor of Monsanto. Ethical scientists and researchers, including my own daughter who is a genetic researcher herself refute the validity of the substantial equivalence principle and consider it the biggest farce and fraud ever committed in the science field. Not one single double-blind,randomized, controlled HUMAN safety study has ever been conducted providing scientific evidence that GMOs are fit and safe for human (and animal) consumption! Monsanto and the other biotech mafiosi are not in the least concerned about the safety of their genetically engineered concoctions, as once so aptly expressed by Phil Angell, Monsantos director of corporate communications Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the FDAs job . The FDA, supposedly established to protect peoples health, and other regulatory bodies such as EPA blindly adopted this ill-begotten ruling, which, however, is not surprising given the amply documented corrupt symbiosis between the FDA and pharma and biotech companies. And anyone involved in the GM debacle, as I have been for the past ten years, is well aware of the meanwhile legendary revolving door at the FDA, the best example of which was the approval of aspartame and Monsantos rBGH drug, which was approved against the advice and conscience of the FDAs own scientists thanks to the moles planted in the FDA by Monsanto, such as Michael Taylor mentioned above. The wording of the approval, i.e. the risks to animals and humans is MANAGEABLE goes down in history as the most appalling case of total disregard to human health by the very agency that is supposed to protect the latter and is the first time ever that a veterinary drug had been approved for human consumption because the risk was considered manageable. Of course, it will be manageable, namely by the billion-dollar cancer industry, given the fact that according to independent researchers, scientists and physicians NOT bought and funded by bio-tech companies rBGH may cause colon, prostrate and breast cancer. Think of all the wonderful blockbuster drugs that will subsequently be invented and approved by FDA scientists who have financial stakes in the very drug or biotech companies whose drug they blindly approve and unleash on the unsuspecting public and oops too bad when such drugs then kill 70,000 people in the U.S. alone as happened in Mercks Vioxx case. In addition to the scientifically nonsensical ramblings of the FDA and the extremely well-remunerated spin doctors of biotech companies, i.e. that genetically engineered foods are "substantially equivalent" to their traditional counterparts, they also repeat ad nauseum that genetic engineering has been done for more than thousand years, although even a primary school pupil could tell you the difference between conventional hybridization and genetic engineering, which entails the insertion of antibiotic-resistant marker genes, viral promoters and foreign proteins never before consumed by mankind and not found in crops produced through normal means of hybridization. The most dangerous viral promoter used in genetic engineering is the cauliflower mosaic virus (CaMV), closely related to the Hepatitis B and HIV virus (see my article pasted below). South Africans are currently fighting the release of a genetically modified potato concoction, which again contains the Bt gene (you will find the latter also in Nestle baby products!), the cauliflower mosaic virus and every cell of that potato from hell contains the antibiotic KANAMYCIN which crosses the placenta and produces detectable serium levels in the fetus!!! There have been several reports of total irreversible bilateral congenital deafness in children whose mothers received that drug during pregnancy and kanamycin has been classified by the manufacturer as pregnancy risk category D. It also enters breast milk! And in South Africa (and no doubt in the United States as well since the SA project was financed by Michigan State University and UNAID - go figure!) they put that drug in a bloody potato to be consumed by millions of people (and then they wonder about the sharp rise in multi-drug resistant tuberculosis cases and other multi-drug resistant
[Biofuel] A few of you will not like this.
This is the prosecutor that nailed Charles Manson Kirk Thanks to Bud Deraps. IMO, VB did give a speech that shows there is still hope that justice might be forthcoming. The Terrible Reality" Bush Guilty Of Murder Must Watch 6 Minute Video Vincent Bugliosi's opening statements during the House Judiciary Committee hearing on the constitutional limits of executive power. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20400.htm - -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080802/27d3624e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Simple windmill
You dont infringe on a patent if you build only for yourself. http://www.freepatentauction.com/patent.php?nb=2502 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080801/c4fe7cc0/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: IRS will now know your credit card purchases
IRS will now know your credit card purchases Posted by: "Jim Lynn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] lynngroup Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:35 pm (PDT) The provision is tucked away on page 615 of the 631-page housing bill filed last week by Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, and ranking member Sen. Richard Shelby http://tinyurl.com/5topbc If passed this bill violates our privacy rights like nothing before. We are witnessing the history of when Americans lost their freedom. Jim -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080726/591b530f/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: RE: [no-forced-vaccination] Rhesus Macaque mtDNA injected into humans via oral polio vaccine?
crosspost Monsanto and its morons could kill us all. Kirk Add to these ingredients all the garbage we breathe every day (check out the recent information about Morgellon's posted by Ralph) and the potion becomes extremely toxic to man and beast; to say nothing of our water and food sources. ~~Ruth/REU -Original Message- From: Ingrid Blank Sent: Jul 19, 2008 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [no-forced-vaccination] Rhesus Macaque mtDNA injected into humans via oral polio vaccine? Amanda, vaccines are only part of the mix. Foreign DNA is introduced into your body on a daily basis through hundreds of thousands of food products containing genetically modified organisms. Genetic engineering requires viral promoters which in most cases are inserted in naked form (without their viral coat)and thus have recombination "hotspots", meaning plant virus DNA is taken up by human cells and as studies in mice have shown end up in cells of fetuses. http://www.saynotogmos.org/scientific_studies.htm Add to that the many brain scramblers declared safe by the Fraud and Drug Administration and the Mengele clones of the World Health Organization, such as aspartame, sodium benzoate in soft drinks,etc. The latter, according to Professor Peter Piper, has the ability to "cause severe damage to DNA in the mitochondria to the point that they totally inactivate it: they knock it out altogether. "The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it - as happens in a number if diseased states - then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. And there is a whole array of diseases that are now being tied to damage to this DNA - Parkinson's and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases, but above all the whole process of ageing." http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/cau tion-some-soft-drinks-may-seriously-harm-your-health-450593.html Ingrid Hi NFV buddies, I am so excited and I think you all are the only people who may share my excitement. I am trying to find proof that the mitochondrial diseases we see are due to long term (cross-generational) effects of vaccination. After all, it really hasn't been that long since vaccines like polio have been introduced to our human species. I am not saying all disease is to be blamed on vaccines, but that perhaps some of these genetic mutations that scientists blame on random evolution (which I don't believe in, I'd call it scientific perversion)are actually due to the introduction of foreign DNA into our human gene pool. http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/316/5822/222 For example, the above research article identifies human mutations for OTC and PKU (mitochodrial metabolic diseases) and their similarities with normal Rhesus Macaque DNA. Well, I found the below article which seems to confirm that nuclear mitochondria DNA is identifiable in some oral polio vaccines: http://www.pnas.org/content/99/11/7566.full.pdf Please check it out and tell me if you think I'm nuts. Thanks! Amanda Yahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (5) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE - Yahoo! Groups users, check out this limited time offer from Blockbuster! Rent DVDs free for a month! Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 30 New Members 3 New Files Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Special K Challenge Join others who are losing pounds. Food Lovers Real Food Group on Yahoo! Groups find out more. Yahoo! Groups Discover healthy living groups and live a full life. . __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080719/464b4bef/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] electric car energy storage solved?
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:r2Q_wUXvgzMJ:mingus.charlesmingus3art.com/tips-26amp-3Bparts-_733.html+hydro-que+lithium&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/03/eestor_capacito_1.php EEStor Capacitors- "This could change everything" by Lloyd Alter, Toronto on 03. 6.06 Science & Technology (alternative energy) digg_url = 'http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/03/eestor_capacito_1.php'; digg_skin = 'compact'; Tyler Hamilton of the Toronto Star and website Clean Break has been digging around a very secretive company. Asking them for information they said: "EEStor is not making public statements at present time," company co-founder and chief executive Richard Weir replied when the Toronto Star requested an interview via email. "EEStor would also like to have you and your paper not publish any articles about our company and the Toronto Star is certainly not authorized to publish this response." which of course he published instantly in Canada's biggest newspaper, BoingBoing style. . What they are doing in Austin with their Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers money is developing a "parallel plate capacitor with barium titanate as the dielectric" or hypercapacitor as John recently coined. Says Tyler: "BusinessWeek reported an interesting comment from Kleiner's John Doerr, who recently spoke at a California event where tech VCs gather to make their predictions for the year. Doerr reportedly referred to an investment in an energy storage company he declined to name, calling it Kleiner's "Highest-risk, highest-reward" investment." Tyler's source describes it: (warning: if you continue reading you have to eat this post) The batteries fully charge in minutes as opposed to hours. * Whereas with lead acid batteries you might get lucky to have 500 to 700 recharge cycles, the EEStor technology has been tested up to a million cycles with no material degradation. * EEStor's technology could be used in more than low-speed electric vehicles. The company envisions using it for full-speed pure electric vehicles, hybrid-electrics (including plug-ins), military applications, backup power and even large-scale utility storage for intermittent renewable power sources such as wind and solar. * Because it's a solid state battery rather than a chemical battery, such being the case for lithium ion technology, there would be no overheating and thus safety concerns with using it in a vehicle. * Finally, with volume manufacturing it's expected to be cost-competitive with lead-acid technology. "It's the holy grail of battery technology," said my source. "It means you could do a highway capable electric city car that would recharge in three or four minutes and drive you from Toronto to Montreal. Consumers wouldn't notice the difference from driving an electric car versus a gas-powered car." From his Star article: Energy storage has long been the bottleneck for innovation, holding back new energy-sucking features in mobile devices and preventing everything from the electric car to renewable power systems from reaching their full potential. Build a radically better battery at lower cost, experts say, and the world we know will be forever transformed. "There's been nothing big or disruptive, and we're due for it," says Nicholas Parker, chairman of the Cleantech Venture Network, which tracks investment in so-called clean technologies. He says energy storage is one of the hottest areas for venture capital funding right now. "Right across the board, better energy storage is essential." Among EEStor's claims is that its "electrical energy storage unit" could pack nearly 10 times the energy punch of a lead-acid battery of similar weight and, under mass production, would cost half as much. It also says its technology more than doubles the energy density of lithium-ion batteries in most portable computer and mobile gadgets today, but could be produced at one-eighth the cost. If that's not impressive enough, EEStor says its energy storage technology is "not explosive, corrosive, or hazardous" like lead-acid and most lithium-ion systems, and will outlast the life of any commercial product it powers. It can also absorb energy quickly, meaning a small electric car containing a 17-kilowatt-hour system could be fully charged in four to six minutes versus hours for other battery technologies, the company claims. According to patent documents obtained by the Star, EEStor's invention will do no less than "replace the electrochemical battery" where it's already used in hybrid and electric vehicles, power tools, electronic gadgets and renewable energy systems, from solar-powered homes to grid-connected wind farms. "If everything they say is true, then that's pretty amazing," says MacMurray Whale, an energy analyst at Sprott Securities a
[Biofuel] Texas law requires computer repairmen to be licensed private investigators
Big Brother is expanding his empire. This fits right in with US Custom's search of your laptop's hard drive as you enter the U$A. Our privacy rights are steadily being eroded. Some mail programs keep a copy of what you send. Be sure to disable that feature. New Texas law requires computer repairmen to be licensed private investigators. In future, technicians may be required to examine your hard disk and report to the government - to find terrorists, of course. CW33 Posted 2008 July 5 (Cached) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080711/3ef257ea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] solar cooling
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[Biofuel] Chinese Fish Farms Full of Toxic Chemicals
Chinese Fish Farms Full of Toxic Chemicals Wednesday, July 09, 2008 by: David Gutierrez http://www.naturalnews.com/023593.html (NaturalNews) Contamination of water supplies and illegal use of veterinary drugs has led to the severe contamination of Chinese fish farms, with potentially serious health consequences for those who eat the fish. China produces 70 percent of the world's farmed fish, and since the 1980s has become the biggest seafood exporter in the world. Yet this growth has only exacerbated the pollution problems already facing China's water sources. The high density of fish farms in regions like the Fuqing Province in the south has led to the discharge of huge quantities of wastewater into already compromised rivers. "Our waters here are filthy," said Ye Chao, an eel and shrimp farmer from Fuqing. "There are simply too many aquaculture farms in this area. They're all discharging water here, fouling up other farms." The Chinese government has declared more than half of the rivers in the country too polluted to drink from. Many sections of Fuqing's major waterway, the Long River, have been declared too toxic for any use. Pollution of river and coastal waters comes from rapidly growing industries that are discharging pesticides, oil, mercury, lead, copper and agricultural runoff. This pollution has caused massive die-offs at fish farms, leading farmers to illegally mix veterinary drugs into their ponds to try and keep their fish alive. According to farmers who eventually abandoned such practices, not using drugs led to an immediate 30 percent increase in fish mortality. Beyond the health risks to the fish themselves, pollution causes the accumulation of toxic substances in the bodies of the fish, which poses a health risk to people who eat them. "There are heavy metals, mercury and flame retardants in fish samples we've tested," said Ming Hung Wong, a biology at Hong Kong Baptist University. Wang Wu, a professor from the Shanghai Fisheries University, attributes the problem to unbridled growth. "For 50 years, we've blindly emphasized economic growth," he said. "The only pursuit has been GDP, and now we can see that the water turns dirty and the seafood gets dangerous." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the ownerYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080709/267b8dea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
In the US we dont get 6 months mothers leave like the rest of you. Sad but true. Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uh, isn't mother's milk kind of designed for infants to drink? Why we would feed them cows milk or liquid derived from legumes is a little beyond me. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: > Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend > to be more informed than the general public. > > http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm > > Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula > and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their > assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate > professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, > Pennsylvania. > In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was > recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly > accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. > > Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article > Kirk > > Andy Karpay wrote: > Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet "dollars to > donuts" that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat > industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > no > shi > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' > > I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the > Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. > > But if it is proven to be "feminizing" then all the > more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat > it! > > ns > --- Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you > > would share this re your own. Since this is an > > established medical fact the continuance of approval > > for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? > > Yes- I believe soy is being used for population > > control. > > This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a > > toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your > > health you have nothing. > > As for testosterone needed by males it most > > certainly is and I suspect by females as well. > > DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. > > Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your > > natural production is woefully inadequate. So to > > ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very > > bad. > > Kirk > > > > Zeke Yewdall wrote: > > Given the population pressures the world is facing > > (or least the developed > > world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this > > be a good thing? > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted: December 12, 2006 > > > 1:00 am Eastern > > > > > > (c) 2008 > > > > > > Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole > > story: > > > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > > The trouble with soy - part 2 > > > The trouble with soy - part 3 > > > The trouble with soy - part 4 > > > The trouble with soy - part 5 > > > The trouble with soy - part 6 > > > > > > There's a slow poison out there that's severely > > damaging our children and > > > threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic > > part is, it's a "health > > > food," one of our most popular. > > > > > > Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom > > allows anything into his > > > kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here > > just so you'll know I'm > > > not anti-health food. > > > > > > The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean > > products are feminizing, > > > and they're all over the place. You can hardly > > escape them anymore. > > > > > > I have nothing against
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend to be more informed than the general public. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article Kirk Andy Karpay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet "dollars to donuts" that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be "feminizing" then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: > Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you > would share this re your own. Since this is an > established medical fact the continuance of approval > for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? > Yes- I believe soy is being used for population > control. > This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a > toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your > health you have nothing. > As for testosterone needed by males it most > certainly is and I suspect by females as well. > DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. > Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your > natural production is woefully inadequate. So to > ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very > bad. > Kirk > > Zeke Yewdall wrote: > Given the population pressures the world is facing > (or least the developed > world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this > be a good thing? > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253 > > > > > > > > > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted: December 12, 2006 > > 1:00 am Eastern > > > > (c) 2008 > > > > Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole > story: > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > The trouble with soy - part 2 > > The trouble with soy - part 3 > > The trouble with soy - part 4 > > The trouble with soy - part 5 > > The trouble with soy - part 6 > > > > There's a slow poison out there that's severely > damaging our children and > > threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic > part is, it's a "health > > food," one of our most popular. > > > > Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom > allows anything into his > > kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here > just so you'll know I'm > > not anti-health food. > > > > The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean > products are feminizing, > > and they're all over the place. You can hardly > escape them anymore. > > > > I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. > Soy is nutritious and > > contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when > you eat or drink a lot of > > soy stuff, you're also getting substantial > quantities of estrogens. > > > > Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, > you're flooding your > > system with a substance it can't handle in > surplus. If you're a man, you're > > suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your > "female side," physically > > and mentally. > > > > In fetal development, the default is being female. > All humans (even in old > > age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that > keeps men from diverging > > into the female pattern is testosterone, and > testosterone is suppressed by > > an excess of estrogen. > > &g
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Re: Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
I remember reading about a child in India exhibiting menses. I think she was 3 Soy formula was named as the culprit. Kirk Walker Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Research and citations here: http://www.newsmax.com/health/tofu_poorer_memory/2008/07/07/110460.html Jon Pierce wrote: Yeah, that's what i always say! I love gay people, they (largely) don't add to our staggering numbers. But in any case this seems to go a ways toward explaining things. A few issues though: -how accurate is the claim that "the equivalent of five birth control pills a day" is going in to your baby? I notice there's not actually any research *cited*, just referenced. -going in to that equation, what part of the soy bean is put in to the formula, and does it contain estrogen? -and finally, we've apparently known for ages that soy has estrogen in it (as a guy, I just learned this after Googling soy and coming up with Luna bars). So why the new research and "newsworthy" conclusion? If i knew that I was feeding my kid something that had gender-specific hormones in it, I wouldn't be feeding that to my kid much longer. --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Zeke Yewdall wrote: From: Zeke Yewdall Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:11 AM Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253 > > > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > > > > > > > Posted: December 12, 2006 > 1:00 am Eastern > > (c) 2008 > > Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > The trouble with soy - part 2 > The trouble with soy - part 3 > The trouble with soy - part 4 > The trouble with soy - part 5 > The trouble with soy - part 6 > > There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and > threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a "health > food," one of our most popular. > > Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his > kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm > not anti-health food. > > The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, > and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. > > I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and > contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of > soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. > > Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your > system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're > suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically > and mentally. > > In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old > age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging > into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by > an excess of estrogen. > > If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off > some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is > now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or > her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine > system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is > inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. > > Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the > penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical > (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon > the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed > during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy > milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I > can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always > deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a > time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. > > Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart > disease, and save millio
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253 > > > > > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > > > > > > > > Posted: December 12, 2006 > 1:00 am Eastern > > (c) 2008 > > Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: > > Soy is making kids 'gay' > The trouble with soy - part 2 > The trouble with soy - part 3 > The trouble with soy - part 4 > The trouble with soy - part 5 > The trouble with soy - part 6 > > There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and > threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a "health > food," one of our most popular. > > Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his > kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm > not anti-health food. > > The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, > and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. > > I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and > contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of > soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. > > Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your > system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're > suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically > and mentally. > > In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old > age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging > into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by > an excess of estrogen. > > If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off > some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is > now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or > her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine > system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is > inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. > > Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the > penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical > (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon > the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed > during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy > milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I > can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always > deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a > time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. > > Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart > disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was > before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic > example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby > gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think > about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a > she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, > robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may > not reach puberty till much later than normal. > > Research in 2000 showed that a so
[Biofuel] Leaders eat eight course dinners while telling peasants to cut back
World leaders dine on eight course dinners while they lecture us about need to conserve food and eat less during food crisis talks http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/2262534/G8-summit-Gordon-Brown-has-eight-course-dinner-before-food-crisis-talks.html Gordon Brown and his fellow world leaders have sparked outrage after it was disclosed they enjoyed a six-course lunch followed by an eight-course dinner at the G8 summit where the global food crisis tops the agenda. The Prime Minister was served 24 different dishes during his first day at the summit just hours after urging the world to reduce the "unnecessary demand" for food and calling on British families to cut back on their wasteful use of food. Mr Brown and his wife Sarah were among 15 guests at the "blessings of the earth and the sea social dinner". The dinner consisted of 18 dishes in eight courses including caviar, smoked salmon, Kyoto beef and a "G8 fantasy dessert". The banquet was accompanied by five different wines from around the world including champagne, a French Bourgogne and sake. African leaders including the heads of Ethiopia, Tanzania and Senegal who had taken part in talks during the day were not invited to the function. The dinner came just hours after a "working lunch" consisting of six courses including white asparagus and truffle soup, crab and a supreme of chicken. The lavish dining arrangements disclosed by the Japanese Government which is hosting the summit in Hokkaido come amid growing concern over rising food prices triggered by a shortage of many basic necessities. On the flight to the summit, Mr Brown urged Britons to cut food waste as part of a global drive to help avert the food crisis. Opposition politicians and charities condemned the extravagant meals. Dominic Nutt, of Save the Children, said: "It is deeply hypocritical that they should be lavishing course after course on world leaders when there is a food crisis and millions cannot afford a decent meal to eat. "If the G8 wants to betray the hopes of a generation of children, it is going the right way about it. The food crisis is an emergency and the G8 must treat it as that." Andrew Mitchell, the shadow International Development Secretary, said: "The G8 have made a bad start to their summit, with excessive cost and lavish consumption. "Surely it is not unreasonable for each leader to give a guarantee that they will stand by their solemn pledges of three years ago at Gleneagles to help the world's poor. All of us are watching, waiting and listening." Mr Brown arrived at the G8 summit held on the holiday island of Hokkaido in northern Japan on Monday morning. He arrived on a plane chartered from Texas, America, which had to fly empty for thousands of miles to pick up the Prime Minister and his entourage. Unlike other countries, Britain does not have an official plane to transport the Prime Minister. The lavish dining will embarrass Mr Brown, who has made tackling the global food crisis a key priority. On the flight to the summit, the Prime Minister urged British people to cut food waste and "reduce unnecessary demand". He said: "We need a global plan to deal with rising food prices that are affecting millions of families in Britain. That's why I am proposing that we take action to both increase the global supply of food and reduce unnecessary demand. "If we are to get food prices down, we must also do more to deal with unnecessary demand, such as by all of us doing more to cut our food waste which is costing the average household in Britain around £8 per week." Talks between world leaders at the summit will focus on dealing with soaring food and oil prices. There is also hope for a breakthrough on protracted talks to secure a new global trade deal. However, the leaders are facing criticism amid allegations that pledges for development aid promised for the third world at a previous G8 summit in Scotland have been watered down. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080708/793611ba/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern © 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a "health food," one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today? Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic. Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may be boosting the rapidly rising incidence of leukemia in children. In the latest year we have numbers for, new cases in the U.S. jumped 27 percent. In one year! There's also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults - especially breast cancer. That's why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy. In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods in U.S. supermarkets now contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next few years because (last I heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA hierarchy are considering allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars, fake milk, fake yogurt, etc., to claim that "soy prevents cancer." It doesn't. P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure. Miso, natto and tempeh are also OK, but avoid tofu. -- next part -- An H
[Biofuel] Quackbusters
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[Biofuel] The War Prayer : by Mark Twain
The War Prayer : by Mark Twain O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it-- For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, strain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17801.htm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080701/9a3087e5/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Gates and food
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views02/0522-03.htm Published on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer A Better Way to Feed the Hungry by Frances Moore Lappé and Anna Lappé Bill Gates thinks he's got a brilliant idea: fighting malnutrition abroad by fortifying food. The scheme, backed with $50 million from the Gates Foundation, in part encourages Proctor & Gamble, Philip Morris' Kraft, and other companies to develop vitamin and iron-fortified processed foods. It then facilitates their entry into Third World markets. Gates seems to believe we don't have time to address the complex social and political roots of malnutrition. But in opting for this single-focus, top-down, technical intervention, Gates can end up hurting the very people he wants to help. His strategy ignores a crucial reality: Many, if not most, of the hungriest people in the world are themselves farmers. They eke out a living by selling what they grow, and eating it. Helping foreign food purveyors penetrate their markets will only further rob them of livelihood. For example, India's dairy cooperatives -- many run by poor women -- would be hard-pressed to withstand the onslaught of Kraft's marketing power. The Gates approach also hurts the poor if it shifts tastes toward processed foods -- typically adding fat, sugar, and salt while removing needed fiber and micronutrients. This diet trend already contributes to the spread of diseases currently burdening the industrial world. Obesity and diet-related diseases including diabetes, heart disease, and cancer are becoming a global crisis. In the Third World, grossly insufficient health care budgets are now being diverted to treat these conditions, and away from treating deadly infectious diseases. Aiding market penetration by global food processing companies also ends up making consumers dependent on foreign suppliers for life's essentials. But while corporations such as Kraft or Proctor & Gamble might well participate in Gates' do-good scheme, ultimately their interests diverge from those of the hungry. By law, theirs is assuring the highest return to their shareholders -- foreigners -- not the improved well-being of local people, and certainly not hungry local people too poor to make their needs felt in the market. Even the piece of the Gates scheme focused on fortifying grain (presumably locally grown) misses critical lessons learned since the first World Food Conference in Rome declared war on global hunger almost three decades ago. Then, many still believed that hunger could be solved by simple, mass-production approaches. After decades of failed, technologically-driven solutions, a new wisdom is emerging. We recently traveled on five continents, witnessing a heartening array of local initiatives addressing the complex, interwoven roots of needless malnutrition. These are not pie-in-the-sky solutions; they are working. In 1993 Brazil's fourth largest city, Belo Horizonte, declared food a right of citizenship. This single shift of frame -- beyond charitable hand-outs, beyond market tyranny -- unleashed dozens of innovations: Making city plots available for local, organic farmers as long as they keep prices within the reach of the poor; posting where to find the cheapest prices for over 40 food staples; enhancing nutrition in school lunches by replacing processed foods with local organic food. The city also tries to innoculate newly arrived dwellers against global corporate food advertising (probably including that of the very companies in the Gates fold) by educating them to the value of sticking with the healthy whole foods diets they grew up on in the countryside. Across the globe in Kenya, women of the Green Belt Movement, an anti-desertification campaign that has planted 20 million trees, are now reclaiming diverse, traditional food crops. They are creating organic kitchen gardens growing precisely the fruits and vegetables that provide the nutrients Gates' fortification scheme seeks to supply. A promising international "fair trade" movement now also addresses the powerlessness that leaves people malnourished in the first place. Third World producers can market fair trade products, such as coffee certified by Oakland-based Transfair USA, helping to ensure the livelihood of some of the world's poorest people. Tens of thousands of such innovative efforts, many citizen driven, continue to emerge on every continent. They are succeeding because they address the real causes of malnutrition -- concentrated economic and political power that blocks people from pursuing their interests and from building vibrant, sustainable local economies, accountable to local needs. Just imagine what might happen if Bill Gates chose not to fortify corporate foods but to use his $50 million to fortify efforts like these, encouraging their cross-ferti
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: popcorn video - must see
thanks I should have known better Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A link straight from the horses mouth, http://www.cardosystems.com/pop/?.? The Bluetooth manufacturers have posted on their web site, the videos were for entertainment purposes only.? This video frightened so many people, during finals it became a huge topic of conversation.? Students everywhere were swearing off cell phones. (at least until their?social lives took on more importance then health fears :) ) Linda -Original Message- From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:00 am Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: popcorn video - must see Amazing Kirk This is pretty scary. http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/portable%2Bpopcorn/video/x5odhh_ - Don't worry, the experts say all is A-Ok. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080621/fa828730/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080621/230bc21d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080622/28027a12/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: popcorn video - must see
Amazing Kirk This is pretty scary. http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/portable%2Bpopcorn/video/x5odhh_ - Don't worry, the experts say all is A-Ok. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080621/fa828730/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Vitamin C About to be Made Illegal in Canada!
supposed to go into effect next year in the US codex alimentarius. The pharma corporations get the government to give them and doctors a monopoly. Please use this link if you are having problems reading this newsletter: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/current.aspxJune 19, 2008 - Issue 1122 The newsletters are also available via RSS: http://rss.mercola.com/NL/rss.aspx What You Should Know About a Critical Nutrient that Continually Declines as You Age Every cell in your body desperately needs this substance to help produce the energy you need to live. Unfortunately, as you get older, your levels of this critical compound sharply decline. See why I personally take and recommend this nutrient and Get Free Shipping! Vitamin C About to be Made Illegal in Canada! Why should you be concerned if you live in the U.S.? Why Brain Surgeons Are Avoiding Cell Phones Prominent doctors are shunning mobile phones. What do they know that you dont? Can You Tell If These Pictures Are From Biology or Physics? Telling which ones which is no easy feat! Can Grilling Meat Cause Cancer? Before firing up your grill this summer, find out what type of health risks you might be facing. Drugging Children to Keep Them Quiet Why are 2 and 3-year-old foster children receiving mind-altering drugs? Subscribe Now! Search for your Health Answers! Most Popular Products Unsubscribe Discover a New and Improved Omega-3 Delivery System... Now you can get your omega-3's, antioxidants, and other amazing Antarctic Pure Krill ingredients faster and easier than ever before*. New and Improved Krill Oil uses a unique nutrient delivery process that allows for greater nutrient bioavailability and absorption*. Let your overall health soar to new levels. Are You Watching Your Diet? Why eat fattening, tasteless nutritional bars, when you can sink your teeth into a delicious, nutritious energy bar loaded with rich dark chocolate, shredded coconut and other natural ingredients that are GOOD FOR YOU. Order now and save 20%. Just How Dangerous is Your Cookware? The Teflon, aluminum, stainless steel, or copper cookware you use to prepare your food may be hazardous to your health. Now you can cook healthy and delicious meals at home with our magnificent new cast iron cookware. Save over 30%. Shop online securely from the convenience of your home and save time and money. I guarantee the quality of our products, if you have any problems or concerns, contact customer service at: US Phone Orders - Please call 877.985.2695 Int'l Phone Orders - Please call 847.985.2695Drop the Extra Baggage Without Changing What You Eat! Get rid of that stubborn belly bulge that never seems to go away -- just switch on your native metabolizer -- the one that keeps you looking lean and muscular. It's clinically proven and fully guaranteed. Read my review of this revolutionary patented program by Dr. Al Sears -- available to you right now! * These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. © Copyright Dr. Joseph Mercola, 2008. All Rights Reserved. This content may be copied in full, as long as copyright, contact, and creation information is given, only if used only in a not-for-profit format. If possible, I would also appreciate an endorsement and encouragement to subscribe to the newsletter. If any other use is desired, written permission is required. Mercola.com 1443 W. Schaumburg Road, Suite 250 Schaumburg, IL 60194 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080619/31cb4f84/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Price Of Oil Will Double
I think the nickel-iron is called an Edison cell. Found some use on boats (trawlers etc) as you can abuse the crap out of it. On the downside it is bigger than a lead acid of comprable power and I think it has fairly high self discharge. Also expensive- nickel isnt cheap. But - you can abuse it and it still works. Kirk Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah, the nickel-iron battery. I've got a fairly comprehensive description of it in an old automotive technology textbook, and I've always liked the idea, even if that chapter makes no mention of its durability advantages. Another factor with batteries for static applications is that their size/weight requirements are completely different to those for mobile applications. It's struck me that any battery can be made more durable if its size and weight were slightly more generous than the car-battery norm. It would impart a little bit more dimensional stability and a little bit more leeway for warpage, etc.; and moreover allow a greater range of practical materials. A wooden crate full of glass cells looks like an eminently sustainable battery to me, not only in terms of materials but also as regards the viability of making them in a local, small-scale way. The crowd at Otherpower make their own alternators out of wood and wire, after all. Thanks, Darryl. -Dawie Coetzee - Original Message From: Darryl McMahon To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008 8:23:54 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Price Of Oil Will Double Not Chris, but thought I'd chime in anyway, as the rain is providing with that rare few spare minutes. Keith Addison wrote: > Hello Chris > >> For a quarter of 250.00 a barrel, current solar technology will >> fill the needs of the planet. > > Do you mean PVs? They have their role to play, but making them is > dirty, recycling them later is also dirty. Hopefully, by now, people are figuring out that solar is so much more than just photovoltaics (PV). But then, I've been playing at the low-tech end for so long now I tend to forget there are still newbies to solar water heating, solar space heating, controlling unwanted solar gain, and of course the grandparents of solar energy, sunlight to grow plants in the garden and the hydrologic cycle to deliver water to the plants (and rainbarrels), rather than the tap. Of course, if the price of gasoline drops, even a little, then the industrialized world and its consumer pawns will go back to sleep. > > What's your plan for dealing with old batteries? Re-use and recycling. Of course, we're mucking that up now courtesy of cheap oil, multi-national corporations and uneven laws around environmental behaviour, but I expect we'll eventually figure out that we don't want to ship the old ones half-way round the world to remanufacture them. Lead-acid has a pretty good story with regard to recycling, probably because the "scrap" is so valuable. Last I heard, dead lead-acid batteries (golf-cart size) are fetching $12 and more a piece at the local boneyard. Could always be better of course. I'd like to see more Edison cells, then we could go a century or more before trips to the scrap yard. > > Anyway, there just isn't a single, one-size-fits-all "best > technology". It'll need all ready-to-use renewable energy > technologies, used in combination as the local circumstances require, > as well as reduced energy use (currently mostly waste), improved > energy efficiency, and decentralisation of supply to the small-scale > or farm-scale local-economy level. > > Many places would be better off with a biogas digester, a generator > and a car engine, cheap and easily available stuff locals can > maintain, plus a few palm-oil trees for transport fuel, and maybe > passive solar, compost heat, micro-hydro, wind generators, better > woodstoves... and bicycles and walkable communities and gardens and ... Sadly, this week I feel like we're still losing more than we're winning - Ontario announcement to further embrace big nuclear. Apparently I'm supposed to be happy that my guerilla clotheslines were finally legalized a couple of months ago. Not hardly. Guess I'll have to find some new ways to subvert the power structure. - no arguments here> > > We have to do this stuff ourselves, local citizens of the global village. > > Best > > Keith > -- Darryl McMahon Save water and your money. The Water Saver toilet fill diverter. http://www.econogics.com/WaterSaver/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Sent
[Biofuel] Are You Ready?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/06/18/cnrbs118.xml RBS issues global stock and credit crash alert By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor Last Updated: 5:42pm BST 18/06/2008 Have your say Read comments The Royal Bank of Scotland has advised clients to brace for a full-fledged crash in global stock and credit markets over the next three months as inflation paralyses the major central banks. "A very nasty period is soon to be upon us - be prepared," said Bob Janjuah, the bank's credit strategist. A report by the bank's research team warns that the S&P 500 index of Wall Street equities is likely to fall by more than 300 points to around 1050 by September as "all the chickens come home to roost" from the excesses of the global boom, with contagion spreading across Europe and emerging markets. RBS warning: Be prepared for a 'nasty' period Such a slide on world bourses would amount to one of the worst bear markets over the last century. RBS alert: Quotes from the report Fund managers react to RBS alert Support for the euro is in doubt RBS said the iTraxx index of high-grade corporate bonds could soar to 130/150 while the "Crossover" index of lower grade corporate bonds could reach 650/700 in a renewed bout of panic on the debt markets. "I do not think I can be much blunter. If you have to be in credit, focus on quality, short durations, non-cyclical defensive names. advertisement "Cash is the key safe haven. This is about not losing your money, and not losing your job," said Mr Janjuah, who became a City star after his grim warnings last year about the credit crisis proved all too accurate. RBS expects Wall Street to rally a little further into early July before short-lived momentum from America's fiscal boost begins to fizzle out, and the delayed effects of the oil spike inflict their damage. "Globalisation was always going to risk putting G7 bankers into a dangerous corner at some point. We have got to that point," he said. US Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank both face a Hobson's choice as workers start to lose their jobs in earnest and lenders cut off credit. The authorities cannot respond with easy money because oil and food costs continue to push headline inflation to levels that are unsettling the markets. "The ugly spoiler is that we may need to see much lower global growth in order to get lower inflation," he said. Morgan Stanley warns of catastrophe More comment and analysis from the Telegraph "The Fed is in panic mode. The massive credibility chasms down which the Fed and maybe even the ECB will plummet when they fail to hike rates in the face of higher inflation will combine to give us a big sell-off in risky assets," he said. Kit Jukes, RBS's head of debt markets, said Europe would not be immune. "Economic weakness is spreading and the latest data on consumer demand and confidence are dire. The ECB is hell-bent on raising rates. "The political fall-out could be substantial as finance ministers from the weaker economies rail at the ECB. Wider spreads between the German Bunds and peripheral markets seem assured," he said. Ultimately, the bank expects the oil price spike to subside as the more powerful force of debt deflation takes hold next year. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080618/a480d821/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Price Of Oil Will Double
Bilderburghers said they wanted $200 oil. When you are struggling 48 hours a day trying to feed your kids you wont be watching the scalliwags and robber barons. War with Iran will be easy for them especially if the average man thinks we might get oil. Kirk Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20080.htm Price Of Oil Will Double An ominous warning that the rapid rise in oil prices has only just begun By Danny Fortson, Business Correspondent 12/06/08 "The Independent" - -- The chief executive of the world's largest energy company has issued the most dire warning yet about the soaring the price of oil, predicting that it will hit $250 per barrel "in the foreseeable future". The forecast from Alexey Miller, the head of the Kremlin-owned gas giant Gazprom, would herald the arrival of £2-per-litre petrol and send shockwaves through the economy. His comments were the most stark to be expressed by an industry executive and come just days after the oil price registered its largest-ever single-day spike, hitting $139.12 per barrel last week amid fears that the world's faltering supply will be unable to keep up with demand. Mr Miller's prediction is well beyond even the most heady market forecasts, the most extreme of which fall between $150 and $200 per barrel, and was explained only by vague references to demand from the developing world. It nonetheless stoked an already febrile atmosphere of growing public anger across Europe over a soaring fuel cost that is wreaking havoc at nearly every level of the economy. The British Government was urging motorists yesterday not to panic-buy petrol in anticipation of a strike on Friday by lorry drivers who deliver petrol to forecourts for Royal Dutch Shell, assuring motorists that contingency plans would ensure sufficient supplies. In Spain, the regional government of Catalonia enacted an emergency action plan to bring in fresh food and fuel supplies after nearly half of its forecourts ran dry and supermarkets shelves were left bare. The situation was the result of the second day of an "indefinite" nationwide strike staged by lorry drivers in Spain seeking their government's help to contain the effects of expensive petrol. Scattered protests by drivers and fisherman in France and Portugal also continued yesterday. In a speech to the European Business Congress in Deauville, France, Mr Miller offered little prospect of relief. He warned that the world was experiencing a fundamental shift in energy prices that will end at a "radically new level. We expect that the oil price will approach $250 per barrel in the foreseeable future". Philip Shaw, an economist at Investec Securities, warned that oil at that level would exert an extraordinary drag on the economy at a time when it is already decelerating at a rapid rate. "The word is ouch," he said. "Forecasts are forecasts though, and I think it should be treated with some level of scepticism." The most visible result of $250 oil would be at the petrol pump, which is already at a record 116.9 pence per litre for unleaded. Because more than half of that price, about 68p, is due to duty and taxes, the general rule of thumb is that each $2 increase for oil means a 1p increase of petrol at the pump. Oil at $250 a barrel would mean an increase of almost 60p in petrol prices, even before VAT. The price of everything from food to energy would see significant price rises. Household electricity and gas bills are particularly vulnerable. Power companies have begun warning of a second round of major tariff increases for household bills this year that they say they will need to push through just to break even. Mr Miller placed some of the blame on financial speculators for oil's price rise - it has more than doubled in the past year - but said that the primary reason is simple supply and demand, driven by the rapidly expanding countries of the developing world, principally China and India. It is a view shared by the International Energy Agency. In its monthly oil report, the developed world's energy watchdog said yesterday that the "abnormally high prices [for oil] are largely explained by fundamentals". But whether the price of oil will reach $250 is uncertain at best. Most expect it to reach a breaking point before that figure. The IEA said that the high price would eventually "choke off" demand and a balance between supply and demand would return. What is certain is that for Europe, Mr Miller's role will become increasingly important as head of the continent's single biggest gas supplier. He also warned against "protectionist tendencies" in Europe, where worries have grown that the company is being used as a blunt negotiating tool of the Kremlin. "The relationship between Gazprom and Europeans is one of mutual dependence. We rely as much on European consumers as they depend on us," he said. "In all frankness, I
[Biofuel] contamination quotes
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[Biofuel] Fwd: [no-forced-vaccination] news--- vaccine study with chimps creates autism
look at what just arrived tanya Infant Primates Given Vaccines On U.S. Children's Immunization Schedule Develop Behavioral Symptoms Of Autism 20 May 2008 [input] A primate model for autism using the U.S. children's immunization schedule was unveiled at the International Meeting For Autism Research (IMFAR) this weekend. The research underscores the critical need for studies into vaccine safety and the immune and mitochondrial dysfunction of autistic children. The National Autism Association (NAA) questions why the government hasn't undertaken these vital studies and why researchers have had to depend on private money to perform this critical science that will surely impact the health of millions of children worldwide. While the authors and organizations associated with this study are withholding comment until publication, University of Pittsburgh's Dr. Laura Hewitson, Ph.D., described at the IMFAR meeting how vaccinated animals, when compared to unvaccinated animals, showed significant neurodevelopmental deficits and "significant associations between specific aberrant social and non-social behaviors, isotope binding, and vaccine exposure." Researchers also reported at the scientific meeting that "vaccinated animals exhibited progressively severe chronic active inflammation whereas unexposed animals did not" and found "many significant differences in the GI tissue gene expression profiles between vaccinated and unvaccinated animals." Gastrointestinal issues are a common symptom of children with regressive autism. NAA calls for the NIH to conduct large scale, non-epidemiological studies into the biomedical symptoms surrounding young children and all vaccines, including those containing the mercury-based preservative thimerosal and other additives like aluminum. This request for further research echoes that of Dr. Bernadine Healy, Former NIH Director in a CBS interview earlier this week. "I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as 'irrational,' without sufficient studies of causation... without studying the population that got sick," Healy said. "I have not seen major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of the vaccines." Recently the government's vaccine court conceded the case of Hannah Poling, admitting that vaccines triggered her regression into autism by exacerbating mitochondrial dysfunction. "The recent Poling case and this new research provide further evidence that the CDC has fallen down on their job to protect children from harm. The biomedical research to date suggests that parental reports of regression following vaccination is not only plausible, but likely in certain individuals," said Scott Bono, NAA Chairman. "To date, the CDC has conducted no safety testing on the possible harmful effects of simultaneously administering multiple vaccines to infants, and has steadfastly refused to state a preference for mercury-free vaccines to be given to children and pregnant women. It's time for HHS and Congress to step in and take vaccine safety away from the CDC." On June 4th, parents of vaccine-injured children will rally for toxin-free immunizations in Washington, DC. For more information visit http://www.nationalautism.org. National Autism Association http://www.nationalautism.org __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE Blockbuster is giving away a free trial of Blockbuster Total Access to smart movie lovers like you. '); } catch(e){} //--> Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 29 New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Wellness Spot A resource for Curves and weight loss. Get in Shape on Yahoo! Groups Find a buddy and lose weight. Yahoo! Groups Everyday Wellness Zone Check out featured healthy living groups. . __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080614/ce1aee0d/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 6689 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080614/ce1aee0d/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 66 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20080614/ce1aee0d/attachment.gif ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofue
[Biofuel] This is an expose of journalism, a 44 min video.
John Pilger tells it like it really is. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20082.htm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080614/d0ffedc8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Visual
> > I almost deleted this without viewingdon't, it's good! > > > > > http://transformationteam.net/video/perceptual_experiment_tc > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080609/39d183a8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [no-forced-vaccination] A Day of Remembrance: Vaccine Injured March on Capitol Hill
It is doubly sad when we see the president of the US give vaccine manufacturers immunity from lawsuit. They ARE aware of what they do. When Bush's father was VP he was censured by Congress for unlawful lobbying for a drug company. That company was Eli Lilly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_Controversy Bush served on the board of directors and the largest single stockholder was a family by the name of Quayle. To see Bush use executive order to provide immunity is an impeachable offense at least. He should be imprisoned and Ricoh used to take his ill gotten gain. Kirk Maracuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Better coverage! Seems that the "Freedom to choose" message is penetrating a bit! Maracuja NVIC Vaccine E-Newsletter June 6 , 2008 A Day of Remembrance: Vaccine Injured March on Capitol Hill by Barbara Loe Fisher They came by the thousands from all over the America. On June 4, 2008, mothers and fathers with vaccine injured autistic children marched down the middle of Independence Avenue and rallied at the foot of the nation's Capitol. Some parents walked with, held or pushed their children in strollers while others, whose children were too severely brain injured to attend, carried signs and photos. They had come to witness, in one way or another, what had happened to their children after vaccination. The day broke hot and humid with a threat of torrential rains that would have drenched the marchers. But then, the skies cleared and the sun came out in time for the determined parents and their children to gather on the grounds of the Washington Monument and line up behind Hollywood celebrities Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy leading the march and the "Green Our Vaccines" rally that would follow. Although the primary message of the march was to call on government health agencies to "remove toxins" from vaccines and "adjust the vaccine schedule" by reducing the numbers of vaccines given to infants simultaneously, NVIC supporters carried signs declaring "No forced vaccination. Not in America." As NVIC co-founder Kathi Williams and I walked past the long line of families waiting to begin the march, we and our now-grown children held up the signs featuring the American flag and statue of liberty. All the way down the line, the families of vaccine injured children clapped and cheered the message of freedom we carried to honor and empower them as we passed. And while many at the front of the line marching down Independence Avenue chanted "Too many, too soon," those of us bringing up the back of the line chanted "Hey, hey, Ho, ho - forced vaccines have got to go!" with an African American father urging us to shout louder and louder as we approached the Department of Health and Human Services. "Let them hear you," he yelled. "Tell them what you want." I looked at my 30-year old son, who became multiply learning disabled after a neurological reaction to his fourth DPT shot in 1980 when he was two and a half, as he walked beside me resolutely holding up our sign and shouting in a deep voice "Forced vaccines have got to go." When he was eight years old, I remembered marching in Atlanta in front of the Centers for Disease Control in 1986 with Kathi and the young mothers of babies who had been brain injured or died after DPT vaccination in the 1980's. We were the first generation to march in protest against toxic vaccines and one-size-fits-all government vaccine policies justified by the utilitarian premise that it is ethical to throw a minority of children under the bus in service to others. The second generation, whose children were born in the 1990's and developed autism after vaccination, held a series of rallies on Capitol Hill sponsored by Unlocking Autism beginning in 2000 when Congressman Dan Burton initiated congressional hearings on the link between autism and vaccines. In the summer of 2005, parents protesting mercury in vaccines marched and rallied on Capitol Hill. Today, the third generation knows that vaccine damage is about more than mercury. It is also about too much vaccination: 48 doses of 14 vaccines given by age six and 69 doses of 16 vaccines federal health officials now say children must get by the time they graduate from high school. At the rally podium, Jim Carey delivered a remarkable address that was also a sweet love letter to his partner, Jenny McCarthy. He said "Autism is everywhere. It is on every street and in every town" and he asked the CDC "How stupid do you think we are?" Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and physicians such as Jay Gordon, M.D. and professor of chemistry Boyd Haley, Ph.D. called for removal of toxins from vaccines. Jenny McCarthy, who is the celebrity spokesperson for Talk About Curing Autism Now (TACA), held up the government's childhood vaccine schedule and said "Parents need to know it is called a recomme
[Biofuel] Excellent Video on healthcare freedom
(Please forward this message) The fear machine is dissing vitamins and supplements on a daily basis now to soften up the unknowing public to accept Codex Alimentarius. The Codex is being pushed by multi-national drug companies and their hope is that more people will be forced into taking toxic drugs to solve their health issues. This is real. Canada's health freedom is already under severe attack from their version of our FDA. The FDA has, for years, been the junk yard bulldog for Big Pharma & the AMA. Clinics using alternative therapies have been shut down in daylight raids with guns drawn. It is not important that some of these clinics have had outstanding success in restoring health. Their "crime" was that they used non-toxic, no drug therapies. This is the reality that you'll never see reported in mainstream media. And now, all those supplements you've taken for years, are "on the table." http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=451097355502728465&q=codex&ei=y7wMSNyBE4mSrwLtzYCoBA We Become Silent - The Last Days Of Health Freedom - 28 min - Apr 6, 2006 www.welltv.com - www.welltv.com (156 Ratings) Rate: International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P. Miller of Well TV announced the release of a new documentary about the threat to medical free...all » International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P. Miller of Well TV announced the release of a new documentary about the threat to medical freedom of choice. 'We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health Freedom' details the ongoing attempts by multinational pharmaceutical interests and giant food companies in concert with the WTO, the WHO and others to limit the publics access to herbs, vitamins and other therapies. 'We Become Silent is narrated by Dame Judi Dench, the noted UK actress who has won multiple Golden Globe awards, an Oscar, and a Tony for her on-stage work, in addition to dozens of other honors throughout her prestigious career.« -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080607/3db1f33e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Re: [solar-ac] Re: Ammonia
An important heads up re a potentially deadly situation. Kirk Michael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since we're on the subject, I cut and pasted a message from a friend relating to the misuse of anhydrous ammonia (below). "Meth cooks are getting the propane tanks from the exchanges at Wal-Mart, Kroger, etc. and emptying them of the propane. Then, they are filling them with anhydrous ammonia (which they now have a recipe for). After they are finished with the tanks, they return them to the store. The tanks are then refilled with propane for you and me to buy. Anhydrous ammonia is very corrosive and weakens the structure of the tank. It can be very dangerous when mixed with propane and hooked up to our grills, etc. You should inspect the propane tank for any blue or greenish residue around the valve areas. If it is present, refuse to purchase that one." Check out the following website for more details. They also have pictures you can show. http://www.npga.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=529 Mike dennis baecht wrote: I did consider it. I worked with ammonia in confined spaces for a long time in the Navy, it doesn't get more dangerous than that. I have the correct personal safety equipment, and emergency equipment, I supplied the local fire dept. with a MSDS and discussed it with them. I don't use it much and if I can get another working pair to work as well then I won't use ammonia again. Along those lines I'm working with methanol and activated charcoal. Methanol has it's own set of dangers but not as bad as ammonia. Plus it is easier to get. I don't worry about the feds anymore, one of the local FBI guys was so intriged by the whole RE thing he now has solar panels and a wind turbine. He's hooked big time. I appreciate the respectful way you addressed this. Dennis -Original Message- From: "M. Richmond" Sent: Jun 4, 2008 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [solar-ac] Re: Ammonia Denise, Have you considered getting an EPA Universal license? It is relatively easy to get. I got mine by sitting in a class for one day then taking an exam. Having one qualifies you to work with ammonia. It also helps you understand the safety dangers inherent with refrigerants. If you are EPA certified the Feds have a hard time saying you are producing ammonia for explosives, which we know you are not. Something to think about. Good Luck! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Denise McNerney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You have had the FBI after you just because of your solar freezer! Unbelievable. __._,_.___ Archives of solar-ac messages are at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solar-ac/messages Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080604/c35fb537/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] on sustainability, European dairy strike
My feed costs have risen 50% in some cases. Hard to stay in business if costs rise and income drops. Kirk Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone have any first hand experience with this? http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/2008/05/30/german_dairy_strike_spreads_in_europe/7507/ Seems in Germany, some dairy farmers have bucked the big guns and are dumping their milk, in order to drive up prices. Seems the EU quotas were mandated to go up, to drive the cost down, so some of the producers are denying the product in answer. I don't know how I feel about this, it apparently is spreading across Europe right now. This news is a few days old. Can't hardly argue with the timing, with the 'food shortage crisis' meeting in Rome right now. -- Chip Mefford Before Enlightenment; chop wood carry water After Enlightenment; chop wood carry water - Public Key http://www.well.com/user/cpm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080603/6e950ebd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Monopoly Men
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=monopoly+men&hl=En&sitesearch=# If link doesnt work just go to Google video and enter search terms monopoly men. I assume many of you already know this but for those of you that dont you really need to know this. Probably the biggest fraud of the 20th century. Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080530/da519989/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fields of Overkill
Yes and no. Example of "facts" being spun. The source of ecoli was black water added to deficient irrigation sources. Not a problem if crop is prepared or if from trees. Spinach on the other hand is salad material sometimes. Same way the kids got hepatitis from strawberries - black water. Dr feelgod of the agricorp wants you to believe it came from naure and we will eliminate nature. The truth that it was a moron at the water board is not told. Also avoids lawsuits. Kirk Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are these folks completely nutz? http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=17714&utm_source=newsletter1&utm_medium=email Fields of overkill Western Roundup - May 26, 2008 by Li Miao Lovett Conservation, farmers scorched by food safety concerns SALINAS VALLEY, CALIFORNIA In California's verdant Salinas Valley, the tangles of trees and shrubs that once bordered the fields of leafy greens are disappearing. Chain-link fences now barricade the Salinas River as it flows through the nation's salad bowl. In early April, a small lake that once sheltered migratory birds and insects beneficial to farmers had been reduced to a bulldozed pit; by the end of the month, it had disappeared completely. Like the vanishing trees and hedgerows, the pond was another victim of food-safety measures gone awry. After an E. coli outbreak in 2006 was traced to tainted spinach, the leafy greens industry and big corporate buyers like McDonald's and Wal-Mart responded with an array of tough new standards for growing spinach and lettuce. Packaged produce has been the culprit in the majority of outbreaks linked to leafy greens; those who fell sick or died in the 2006 outbreak had eaten bagged spinach from a single processing plant in California owned by Natural Selection Foods. Still, native vegetation and waterways that provide habitat for deer, birds and other wildlife were suddenly seen as health threats by those high up on the corporate food chain. Pushed by inspectors and buyers, leafy greens growers on California's Central Coast are sterilizing their fields, ripping out wildlife habitat and putting up fences. Often, the farmers' contracts and livelihoods are at stake. "Growers have been told to cut down trees on family farms that have been around for 50 years," says Kirk Schmidt, executive director of Central Coast Water Quality Preservation. And it's not just farmers and wildlife that are losing out - the excessive measures are changing farms in ways that could actually make our food supply less safe. "Buyers are taking advantage of food safety to get a competitive edge," says Joseph McIntyre, facilitator of the California Roundtable on Agriculture and the Environment. "They're putting pressure on growers toward practices that may not have food safety benefits, as well as (cause) unintended consequences." The 2006 E. coli outbreak happened just as the federal Food and Drug Administration was working with the agricultural industry to come up with new guidelines for growing and handling leafy greens. The tainted spinach killed three people, sickened over 200 others, and cost spinach growers more than $70 million. FDA advisories over an eight-day period effectively shut down the spinach industry and had a long-term impact on leafy greens sales - and on the way growers manage their farms. For years, farmers in the Salinas Valley and beyond had worked with state and federal resource agencies to implement ecologically friendly practices. But a spring 2007 survey by the Resource Conservation District of Monterey County showed such practices are changing. Of 181 respondents, who farm a total of 140,000 acres on the Central Coast, 89 percent said that they had adopted at least one measure to keep wildlife out of their fields. The survey indicated that the lettuce and spinach growers are facing tremendous pressure from auditors and buyers. Nearly one-third of leafy greens growers said auditors encouraged them to remove vegetation, and almost one-half were urged to remove or trap wildlife. In many cases, the growers complied. Growers said they lost points on their audits if deer or frogs were present in the fields, and buyers sometimes rejected their crops altogether - thousands of dollars' worth in some cases. (Deer have been known to carry E. coli, although their role in transmitting disease to humans is insignificant compared to that of cattle.) One organic produce grower, who prefers to remain anonymous, notes that the industry term for habitat - "harborage" - implies that wildlife is a threat to the farm. "The most unscrupulous retailers are essentially advocating a 'scorched earth' policy for areas near vegetable fields," he says. At the Community Alliance with Family Farmers (CAFF), program coordinator Sam Earnshaw has been encouraging Central Coast farmers to plant hedgerows since the late 1990s. Plants like flowering yarrow and lilacs may appear untidy next to or
Re: [Biofuel] China's All-Seeing Eye
America is one big black op. Since they control the media in all forms they actually control what you think because what you think is determined by the "facts" you believe. Until you can form your opinions based on data that slips through you are their pawn. The trick is recognizing logical proofs. The degree of control and fabrication is beyond most peoples wildest dream. :( Kirk Chris Burck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: perhaps you under-estimate the expertise and sophistication of america's surveillance cadre. in any case, it seems clear from the article that a good share of china's network is hnmegrown. just how much share american companies are enjoying, i'm sure we'll never know. On 5/30/08, Chip Mefford wrote: > Keith Addison wrote: >> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/15/8970/ >> Published on Thursday, May 15, 2008 by Rolling Stone >> >> China's All-Seeing Eye >> >> With the help of U.S. defense contractors, China is building the >> prototype for a high-tech police state. It is ready for export. > >> by Naomi Klein > > > Interesting read; > > Actually, as I think back, to the pre-google-washing days, I remember > seeing a short documentary, in the '60 minutes' style of documentary, > about the work Singapore was doing. At that time, most of us thought of > surveillance societies in the vein of Orwell and such. Max Headroom was > on TV, and spoke of a future-now where everything was trackable, and > tracked, and modelable, and modeled. No secrets. Singapore was actually > doing it. The documentary showed in depth the level of 'people tracking' > the 'watchers' had. It was stunning, quite impressive, and for me at > least, deeply terrifying. In Orwellian total information awareness, > some level of dissent and anonymity was at least theoretically possible. > Not so, Singapore. > > While the old truism 'the unthinkable has always been thinkable' holds, > just being who I am, as old as I am, I was certainly aware that > dictators-to-be were no doubt drooling over this kind of reach and > control, that it would never fly in the west. > > Hahahahahahaha > > That's why I find the thought of China working with west to achive > this kinda counter-intuitive. They have experts right close at hand, > maybe they could learn to 'act locally' :) We in the west are bound > to be klutzes at this. over confident and over arrogant. I think the > approach the folks in Singapore were taking was so staggeringly > complete, that anyone considering dissecting their populace on > the pinboard, would do well to seek out the experts. > > >GREAT BIG SNIP. > > -- > Chip Mefford > > Before Enlightenment; > chop wood > carry water > After Enlightenment; > chop wood > carry water > - > Public Key > http://www.well.com/user/cpm > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080530/28687979/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] nice tutorial
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[Biofuel] magnetic fluid
http://unitednuclear.com/chem.htm MagnaView Fluid chemical formula: colloidal suspension ( liquid ) MagnaView Fluid is a colloidal suspension of microscopic individual magnets, about 10 nm in diameter. When a magnet is placed near a small quantity of MagnaView Fluid, it responds immediately; each microscopic particle in the fluid orientating itself to the applied magnetic field. A truly amazing material to experiment with (see our Magnets page for more info). Just fantastic for classroom magnet demos & experiments. and other nifty hard to find stuff Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080529/1b7a954a/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: [Longevity] Refined Carbohydrates and the Fast Track to Disease
Thought this interesting Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refined Carbohydrates and the Fast Track to Disease Thursday, May 29, 2008 Byron Richards, CCN http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight/articles/refined_carbohydrates_and_the_fast_track_to_disease/?source=Email&camp=news052908 A new study shows just how deadly refined carbohydrates are - even for a healthy person. One serving given to a lean and healthy young adult is adequate to triple the inflammatory response to the surge in glucose. We have known for a long time that the high glycemic/refined carbohydrates (table sugar, white bread, etc.) are disease producing when consumed over a period of time. However, I don't think anyone knew that a single meal activates the core gene signal (NF-KappaB) that drives your body's entire inflammation process - even in a healthy normal-weight person. Excess NF-KappaB activation is the central theme of all diseases - including cancer and heart disease. One hundred years ago Harvey Wiley, M.D. started the FDA so that we could have an organic food supply rich in whole grains. Soon he was booted from his position by the White House and the food industry who wanted nothing to do with healthy food for Americans. These criminals have a century of damage on their hands. Before he died he wrote a tell-all book: The History of a Crime Against the Food Law. Subtitle: The amazing story of the national food and drugs law intended to protect the health of the people perverted to protect the adulteration of food and drugs. Our government bought all the copies so hardly anyone could read it! The profits of the junk food industry and the junk grain industry have crippled the health of our citizens. Our government has been force-feeding this trash on our children for the past 30 years via the school lunch program and the food pyramid guidelines. This program has enabled refined junk food carbohydrates, sold at considerable profit by garbage-oriented food companies, to be the staple of the diet for a growing child. Heads should roll - now that their idiocy has contributed in no small part to an obesity epidemic in our children. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the ownerYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080529/0258c2d2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Gut superbug causing more illnesses, deaths
Probiotics are very helpful. I always keep a bottle in the fridge. Flu seems to result in die offs. I was told many of the flu symptoms are due to dieoff of symbiotic organisms in our gut. I drink half a bottle - not the couple of tablespoons they say to take. That way I am well in 4 hours. If I have a nasty I take grapefruit seed extract and probiotic 12 hours later and then again in 12 hours since the grapefruit seed nails everything. Kirk Robin Pentney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A doctor at the Calgary hospital has had success treating C dificile. It turns out that if you kill the bug, you kill the patient! C dificile is a naturally occuring gut flora (fauna?), along with many others. By administering certain antibiotics, Doctors have killed off one or more of the other bacteria, which were actively keeping the C Dificile in check. An equilibrium, so to speak. The C dificile is so strong that the others can no longer keep it in check and the other bugs all die. That is why stool samples are completely overgrown by CD The best part is the successful treatment. He collects a weeks worth of stools from a close relative, (actually he has the relative collect them - its less personal that way) mixes them with a little saline solut'n to make it soupy, and injects the mixture into the patient's intesines. Annally. The results are almost immediate. within a few hours the sufferers are sitting up, drinking fluids asking for normal food and keeping it down! His comment was that he hoped some other doctors would use the cure because he didn't want this one thing to take over his practice. Reading between the lines seems to indicate that a lot of doctors are not offering the treatment because the find it too distasteful Imagine that. So they let people die? C dificile is written in french because it was first recognised as a huge problem in a Montreal hospital. Another reason to not take antibiotics. At 07:13 AM 5/29/2008, you wrote: >Might want to lay in a bottle of grapefruit seed >extract. I have had good luck with it. > Kirk > > http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/deadly_bacteria.html > > By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer - Wed May 28, 4:03 PM PDT > > ATLANTA - The number of people hospitalized > with a dangerous intestinal superbug has been > growing by more than 10,000 cases a year, according to a new study. > The germ, resistant to some antibiotics, has > become a regular menace in hospitals and > nursing homes. The study found it played a role > in nearly 300,000 hospitalizations in 2005, > more than double the number in 2000. > The infection, Clostridium difficile, is > found in the colon and can cause diarrhea and a > more serious intestinal condition known as > colitis. It is spread by spores in feces. But > the spores are difficult to kill with most > conventional household cleaners or antibacterial soap. > C-diff, as it's known, has grown resistant to > certain antibiotics that work against other > colon bacteria. The result: When patients take > those antibiotics, competing bacteria die off and C-diff explodes. > This virulent strain of C-diff was rarely seen before 2000. > "The nature of this infection is changing. > It's more severe," said Dr. L. Clifford > McDonald, a Centers for Disease Control and > Prevention expert who was not part of the study. > There are other factors that play into the > rise of C-diff cases as well, including a > larger of number of patients who are older and > sicker. "And there may be some overuse and > inappropriate use of antibiotics," said Dr. > Marya Zilberberg, a University of Massachusetts > researcher and lead author of the study. > The Zilberberg study was based on a sample of > more than 36 million annual discharges from > non-governmental U.S. hospitals. That data was > used to generate the study's national estimates. > The research is being published in the June > issue of Emerging Infectious Diseases, a CDC publication. > Using other scientists' estimates, the study > concluded that 2.3 percent of the cases in 2004 > were fatal about 5,500 deaths. That was > nearly double the percentage of C-diff-related > cases that ended in death in 2000. > Many of the people who died had other health > problems. The study did not try to determine if > Clostridium difficile was the main cause of > death in each case, Zilberberg said. > But earlier research concluded the infection > is the underlying cause of thousands of deaths > annually, and the problem is getting worse. > C-diff has become an acute health concern in > Canada, where it was blamed for 260 deaths at > seven Ontario hospitals recently, and 2,000 deaths in Quebec since 2002. > The Association for Professionals in > Infection Control and Epidemiology is currently > working with U.S. hospitals to study prevalence > of the infection and what infection control measures seem to work best. > "This is not a time for alarm, but m
[Biofuel] Gut superbug causing more illnesses, deaths
Might want to lay in a bottle of grapefruit seed extract. I have had good luck with it. Kirk http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/deadly_bacteria.html By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer - Wed May 28, 4:03 PM PDT ATLANTA - The number of people hospitalized with a dangerous intestinal superbug has been growing by more than 10,000 cases a year, according to a new study. The germ, resistant to some antibiotics, has become a regular menace in hospitals and nursing homes. The study found it played a role in nearly 300,000 hospitalizations in 2005, more than double the number in 2000. The infection, Clostridium difficile, is found in the colon and can cause diarrhea and a more serious intestinal condition known as colitis. It is spread by spores in feces. But the spores are difficult to kill with most conventional household cleaners or antibacterial soap. C-diff, as it's known, has grown resistant to certain antibiotics that work against other colon bacteria. The result: When patients take those antibiotics, competing bacteria die off and C-diff explodes. This virulent strain of C-diff was rarely seen before 2000. "The nature of this infection is changing. It's more severe," said Dr. L. Clifford McDonald, a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention expert who was not part of the study. There are other factors that play into the rise of C-diff cases as well, including a larger of number of patients who are older and sicker. "And there may be some overuse and inappropriate use of antibiotics," said Dr. Marya Zilberberg, a University of Massachusetts researcher and lead author of the study. The Zilberberg study was based on a sample of more than 36 million annual discharges from non-governmental U.S. hospitals. That data was used to generate the study's national estimates. The research is being published in the June issue of Emerging Infectious Diseases, a CDC publication. Using other scientists' estimates, the study concluded that 2.3 percent of the cases in 2004 were fatal about 5,500 deaths. That was nearly double the percentage of C-diff-related cases that ended in death in 2000. Many of the people who died had other health problems. The study did not try to determine if Clostridium difficile was the main cause of death in each case, Zilberberg said. But earlier research concluded the infection is the underlying cause of thousands of deaths annually, and the problem is getting worse. C-diff has become an acute health concern in Canada, where it was blamed for 260 deaths at seven Ontario hospitals recently, and 2,000 deaths in Quebec since 2002. The Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology is currently working with U.S. hospitals to study prevalence of the infection and what infection control measures seem to work best. "This is not a time for alarm, but more a time for educating health professionals to understand this particular pathogen," said Kathy Warye, chief executive of the Washington, D.C.-based association. ___ On the Net: The CDC publication: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/index.htm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080529/fc4a6cde/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again
modern? see Roman symbol http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/images/fasci8_2.jpg Chris Burck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what are you smoking, kurt? there are lots of fine points and subtleties when studying history, most especially comparative political history. it's really best to study, observe, think about, and discuss these things deliberately, objectively, and with a clear head. the words islam and fascism just don't go together. period. simply because you can string a bunch of letters together in a heretofore unknown sequence does not, for all that they may tug at your amygdala, mean you are reflecting any kind of reality. at least not one that matters to ordinary adults (theodore geisel notwithstanding). fascism is a thoroughly modern phenomenon, completely inseparable from industrial, capitalist society. to attempt to understand so-called sharia and wahabi islam one must explore what hdppened when, and in what context. whem doing so, we find that so-called "wahabism" began well before the modernization of the arabian peninsula. it was co-opted in its earliest phase by the house of saud as a means of consolidating power, and with a quite clear understanding of the distinction between spiritual and temporal authority (i.e. the saudi kingdom was not nor is a theocracy). the more contempory manifestations, such as the islamic brotherhood and the islamic revolutionaries in iran are reactions, explicitly so, to centuries-long western political and economic subjugation (contrast this with the so-called "gay agenda," just one of the many vaporous internal threats that the american crypto-fascist right so love to monger). not all things zealous, brutal or intolerant are fascist. the only possible purpose for coining a term such as islamo-fascist, is to associate islam with hitler and genocide in the mind of the target audience. once this association is drawn, well, there's no end to the possibilities. On 5/26/08, Kurt Schasker wrote: > > This thread occurred a few weeks ago, but I owe a response, so here goes. > > First off, Mr. Addison suggests my comments reflect the idea that Islam is > in moral decline. This is not what I meant. In fact, my post has just the > opposite suggestion: Islam, and Islamofascism, reflect a society that is > morally rigid. Perhaps the term hypermoral could be used. > > As far as Sharia law is concerned, here is what Wikipedia says: This is > true (Sharia law) for the application of the death penalty for the crimes of > adultery and homosexuality, amputations for the crime of theft, and flogging > for fornication or public intoxication. > > The history of Islam, and Sharia law, is beyond the scope of this response. > Certainly there is much to be celebrated when considering Islam. In the > context of modern practices of Sharia law, however, in those nations that > practice a fundamental form of it, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, I believe > Islamofascism is the correct term. These two countries maintain religious > police. > > Women's rights and Sharia law are a particularly troublesome combination. > Check here: > http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,2278332,00.html (This > article details the difficulties women face in receiving health care under > sharia law.) Let's not even talk about female education, and schooling. > > I don't doubt that plenty of scripture exists for the fair treatment of > women in the Quran, however, as practiced, Sharia law seems at great odds > with any form of freedom that westerners are accustomed to. > Date: Wed, 7 > May 2008 06:14:49 +0900> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again> > > Hello Kurt> > >I am too lazy to double check myself!> > Lazier than that I > think, totally fast asleep maybe. You honestly > think (?) Islam is an idea > that's in a moral decline? LOL!> > >How else could you define a government > that recognizes, and > >enforces, Sharia Law?> > Wise?> > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19818.htm> >Islamic Finance, > by Loretta Napoleoni, 26/04/08 "ICH" -- -- Islamic > >finance has become the > fastest-growing, most dynamic sector of > >global finance. Every > Western-style financial product has its > >sharia, i.e. Islamic law, > compliant instrument: microfinance, > >mortgages, oil and gas exploration, > bridge building, even > >sponsorship of sporting events. Islamic finance is > innovative, > >flexible, and potentially very profitable. "Operating in 70 > >>countries with about $500bn in assets, it is poised to expand > >>geometrically." With more than one billion Muslims eager to support > >it, > analysts project that this system will soon manage approximately > >4 > percent of the world economy, equivalent to $1 trillion in assets. > >Such > figures explain the eagerness of Western banks to tap into > >sharia > financial services. Citigroup, along with many other Western > >banking > retailers, have opened Islamic bra
[Biofuel] A Favorite Video
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[Biofuel] Fwd: The politics of control
It is known as codex alimentarius. Probably will go into effect here next year. Kirk http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=157 It is happening in Canada right now. This is merely a preview of what's to come in the USA, unless we help our friends up North. We cannot afford to say "it can't happen here." International Big Pharma is the driver of this kind on group-think. All of our freedoms are being stripped away, to protect us or our children, of course. http://sotainstruments.com/bill_c51.asp http://sotainstruments.com/bill_c52.asp -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080527/3e406219/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Whole Truth about Milk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE&feature=related well worth watching Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080523/fd391054/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse Than Nuclear Weapons
doing on the quiet gets my vote. If you live near a reactor you need your own detection gear. That also includes people fabbing batteries for space (plutonium thermopiles). I guarantee mum is the word as liability is huge. Kirk Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Andy I wonder what happened to the US plans to recycle radioactive nuclear wastes into common household appliances like kitchen cutlery and babies' prams and so on? The proposals came up a couple of times. Did they just drop it or are they going ahead without telling anybody? Similar sort of insanity to industry's "reycling" thousands of tons of hazwastes - lead, arsenic, cadmium, mercury and so on - as fill for fertiliser, which US farmers happily spread on their fields to grow their food crops. All perfectly legal too. >The fact that it pollutes the immediate area, its users as well as anyone in >the area of its firing is not important to the US Government, nor will it >ever be. I'm sure you're right about that. :-( Best Keith >Here in Florida we have 'gypsum stacks' which are huge piles of ... Gypsum a >by-product from the processing of phosphate to "fertilizer". It is somewhat >(very low level) radio-active, and as such cannot be used for road beds, >construction etc. I'll bet that DU is stronger, and worse for the imbibers. >And excreted or not, we are seeing high rates of deformities in babies in >Afghanistan, Iraq, (where the DU is used) and among returning soldiers' >families as well. >DU is a great way to dispose of waste products that normally would not be >allowed to be disposed of most places in the US. Why not make it into >munitions (yes, its high density makes it a perfect armor piercing weapon). >The fact that it pollutes the immediate area, its users as well as anyone in >the area of its firing is not important to the US Government, nor will it >ever be. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Chip Mefford >Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:32 PM >To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse >Than Nuclear Weapons > >Chip Mefford wrote: >> Craig Barrett wrote: >>> H... while DU may be dangerous, this article doesn't help much with >the >>> way it's written - poor use of statistics, no references to support its >>> claims. It's exactly this kind of shoddy work that causes the raising of >>> the skeptical eyebrow at those who're fighting against things like DU. >This >>> is a real pity because I think it hampers what might otherwise be a >really >>> good cause. >> >> Wholly agreed. > > >SNIP > >I kinda want to change my language, but it's already posted, so I'll >just add my after-thoughts. > >Point, my use of 'non-issue' just doesn't feel right. But it really >does seem that the who has really played this down. > >Point. I agree with the basic premise of the original article. >However, this statement "The genetic future of the Iraqi people, for the >most part, is destroyed. The environment now is completely radioactive." >I've read before, elsewhere, I can't substantiate it. >Against the background radiation of other areas in the region, yeah, >it's up a bit. And it's my feeling/opinion, that a 'bit' is a huge >amount, but with what passes for 'expertise' in these areas, folks >seem to think that's okay, when going for health expert citations. >See the who report I linked earlier. > >yes, I think that service folks are paying a terrible price, and the >people of the area we all call Irag are paying a staggeringly price >orders of magnitude above. > >This is all happening whether there is 'consensus' by us or not. >Uranium is just fine, left in the ground, in it's natural state, >unrefined, and not touched, the way it should be. Doing anything >else with it, is just insane. That's my take. > >Proving that, otoh, has proven to be pretty difficult. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080522/323751ca/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] are you being controlled by corn?
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[Biofuel] Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse Than Nuclear Weapons
Society: Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse Than Nuclear Weapons http://www.naturalnews.com/023274.html (NaturalNews) The use of depleted uranium (DU) munitions by the U.S. military may lead to a death toll far higher than that from the nuclear bombs dropped at the end of World War II. DU is a waste product of uranium enrichment, containing approximately one-third the radioactive isotopes of naturally occurring uranium. Because of its high density, it is used in armor- or tank-piercing ammunition. It has been fired by the U.S. and British armed forces in the two Iraq wars and in Afghanistan, as well as by NATO forces in Kosovo and the Israeli military in Lebanon and Palestine. [Hmm, looks like population culling to me!] Inhaled or ingested DU particles are highly toxic, and DU has been classified as an illegal weapon of mass destruction by the United Nations. The United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority has estimated that 50 tons of DU dust from the first Gulf War could lead to 500,000 cancer deaths by the year 2000. To date, a total of 2,000 tons have been generated in the Middle East. In contrast, approximately 250,000 lives were claimed by the explosions and radiation released by the nuclear weapons dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. "More than ten times the amount of radiation released during atmospheric testing [of nuclear bombs] has been released from DU weaponry since 1991," said Leuren Moret, a U.S. nuclear scientist. "The genetic future of the Iraqi people, for the most part, is destroyed. The environment now is completely radioactive." Because DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years, the Middle East will, for all practical purposes, be radioactive forever. The two U.S. wars in Iraq "have been nuclear wars because they have scattered nuclear material across the land, and people, particularly children, are condemned to die of malignancy and congenital disease essentially for eternity," said anti-nuclear activist Helen Caldicott. Since the first Gulf War, the rate of birth defects and childhood cancer in Iraq has increased by seven times. More than 35 percent (251,000) of U.S. Gulf War veterans are dead or on permanent medical disability, compared with only 400 who were killed during the conflict. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080521/0001e677/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Autism Vaccine Link: Scientific Backup
-- Autism Vaccine Link: Scientific Backup It has been a mute point for quite some time whether it is vaccines that cause the explosion in the number of autistic children in the US an din other industrialized countries (16-fold in 10 years, as documented here: http://www.whale.to/a/autism_increase.html). Now finally, there is proof beyond statistics: researchers at the University of Pittsburgh have vaccinated monkeys to see how their neural development would change when exposed to the active ingredients or preservatives contained in the common vaccines. The result was that their chance to develop autistic behavioral patterns was much increased: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/sick-monkeys-st.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080521/800fbf99/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: Ebooks for the masses
check it out I have known Duncan for over 10 years. Pass it on. kirk I'm experimenting with "Free" ebooks. If you follow the link below, you'll come to my ebook page. The books are free to the person downloading them. Now you do have to give your email to register -- but that's only to be sure no one is gaming the system (no junk mail is tied to giving away your email here). Also, while you don't have to be truthful in filling out the forms, truth pays off since ads are then targeted to your demographics. Here's my page (with links to the download site): http://duncanlong.com/e-books.html Wishing you a great week! --Duncan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080519/5b4856d0/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] ethanol from cellulose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5frPV58tY&feature=user fuel bit is near the end The termite proofing sounds great. Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080516/7c8fa06e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] nifty video kinetic sculpture
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[Biofuel] why calorie reduction extends lifespan
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[Biofuel] Lehman Bros. Report: Oil Bust in the Cards
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[Biofuel] ask a bootlegger
Ogre [ Posted on May 8, 2008] http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/08/beware-food-crisis-getting-worse.aspx?source=nl Novice User If they want to make alcohol, they should ask a bootlegger. Corn works well but not the way they are trying to do it. Much more sugar can be excracted if they use the whole plant, and harvest before the ears complete,but they can't use their giant machines to do this so they only use part. Stupid, stupid, stupid. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080508/e758c94a/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again
Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it. Most politicians seem to be a sick breed of cat. Power mad sociopaths. How they can be so toxic and not even have a hint of their pathology is beyond me. Kirk Andy Karpay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For "some reason" Wikipedia definition of fascism has lost its references to merging corporatism with the state (it's what I don't like about Wikipedia). However, some common threads can be seen here. 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm AK .The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone --- Benito Mussolini The fascist rat bags who think themselves our betters are now promoting their pharma income. The state is a myth. Mussolini got what all good fascists deserve. Basically these people will rule you into the ground if you let them Chip Mefford wrote: Was that fascist as in /extreme/ nationalism? Or is that fascist as in pejorative label applied to things we don't like, without any real definition or meaning? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080504/4f7b3e4d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080505/c91b4ff9/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again
The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone --- Benito Mussolini The fascist rat bags who think themselves our betters are now promoting their pharma income. The state is a myth. Mussolini got what all good fascists deserve. Basically these people will rule you into the ground if you let them Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Was that fascist as in /extreme/ nationalism? Or is that fascist as in pejorative label applied to things we don't like, without any real definition or meaning? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080504/4f7b3e4d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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[Biofuel] Dumb as We Wanna Be
Op-Ed Columnist, NYT Dumb as We Wanna Be By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Published: April 30, 2008 It is great to see that we finally have some national unity on energy policy. Unfortunately, the unifying idea is so ridiculous, so unworthy of the people aspiring to lead our nation, it takes your breath away. Hillary Clinton has decided to line up with John McCain in pushing to suspend the federal excise tax on gasoline, 18.4 cents a gallon, for this summer's travel season. This is not an energy policy. This is money laundering: we borrow money from China and ship it to Saudi Arabia and take a little cut for ourselves as it goes through our gas tanks. What a way to build our country. Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times Thomas L. Friedman When the summer is over, we will have increased our debt to China, increased our transfer of wealth to Saudi Arabia and increased our contribution to global warming for our kids to inherit. No, no, no, we'll just get the money by taxing Big Oil, says Mrs. Clinton. Even if you could do that, what a terrible way to spend precious tax dollars --- burning it up on the way to the beach rather than on innovation? The McCain-Clinton gas holiday proposal is a perfect example of what energy expert Peter Schwartz of Global Business Network describes as the true American energy policy today: "Maximize demand, minimize supply and buy the rest from the people who hate us the most." Good for Barack Obama for resisting this shameful pandering. But here's what's scary: our problem is so much worse than you think. We have no energy strategy. If you are going to use tax policy to shape energy strategy then you want to raise taxes on the things you want to discourage --- gasoline consumption and gas-guzzling cars --- and you want to lower taxes on the things you want to encourage --- new, renewable energy technologies. We are doing just the opposite. Are you sitting down? Few Americans know it, but for almost a year now, Congress has been bickering over whether and how to renew the investment tax credit to stimulate investment in solar energy and the production tax credit to encourage investment in wind energy. The bickering has been so poisonous that when Congress passed the 2007 energy bill last December, it failed to extend any stimulus for wind and solar energy production. Oil and gas kept all their credits, but those for wind and solar have been left to expire this December. I am not making this up. At a time when we should be throwing everything into clean power innovation, we are squabbling over pennies. These credits are critical because they ensure that if oil prices slip back down again --- which often happens --- investments in wind and solar would still be profitable. That's how you launch a new energy technology and help it achieve scale, so it can compete without subsidies. The Democrats wanted the wind and solar credits to be paid for by taking away tax credits from the oil industry. President Bush said he would veto that. Neither side would back down, and Mr. Bush --- showing not one iota of leadership --- refused to get all the adults together in a room and work out a compromise. Stalemate. Meanwhile, Germany has a 20-year solar incentive program; Japan 12 years. Ours, at best, run two years. "It's a disaster," says Michael Polsky, founder of Invenergy, one of the biggest wind-power developers in America. "Wind is a very capital-intensive industry, and financial institutions are not ready to take 'Congressional risk.' They say if you don't get the [production tax credit] we will not lend you the money to buy more turbines and build projects." It is also alarming, says Rhone Resch, the president of the Solar Energy Industries Association, that the U.S. has reached a point "where the priorities of Congress could become so distorted by politics" that it would turn its back on the next great global industry --- clean power --- "but that's exactly what is happening." If the wind and solar credits expire, said Resch, the impact in just 2009 would be more than 100,000 jobs either lost or not created in these industries, and $20 billion worth of investments that won't be made. While all the presidential candidates were railing about lost manufacturing jobs in Ohio, no one noticed that America's premier solar company, First Solar, from Toledo, Ohio, was opening its newest factory in the former East Germany --- 540 high-paying engineering jobs --- because Germany has created a booming solar market and America has not. In 1997, said Resch, America was the leader in solar energy technology, with 40 percent of global solar production. "Last year, we were less than 8 percent, and even most of that was manufacturing for overseas markets." The McCain-Clinton proposal is a reminder to me that the biggest energy crisis we have in our country today is the energy to be serious --- the energy to do big things in a s
Re: [Biofuel] New Legislation Calls for Government Ownership of DNA
no -the author is the source. dont be ridiculous. Just because Unruh collected it alters nothing. Kirk Chris Burck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, and at the bottom bob unruh is cited as the source. On 4/30/08, Kirk McLoren wrote: > it was written by B Minton > > Chris Burck wrote: hmmm. bob unruh is not what i > would call the most reliable source. > for example, could chris dodd, in the cited quote, have been talking > about, or in the context of the dna non-discrimination act that some > lawmakers were so urgently trying to pass last week? mind you, a dna > privacy law would be better. . . . > > On 4/30/08, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > They are truly truly out of control. Who do they think they are? What a > > collection of egotistical sociopaths > > Kirk > > > > > > http://www.naturalnews.com/z023126.html New Legislation Calls for > > Government Ownership of DNAby Barbara L. Minton (see all articles by this > > author) > > > > > > (NaturalNews) An article published in the April 4, 2008 issue of World Net > > Daily outlines a plan that has state and federal governments staking claim > > to the ownership of every newborn's DNA in perpetuity. This Orwellian like > > plan is advancing under the radar of most privacy rights activists, as > well > > as that of most people. It would turn the U.S. citizenry into an enormous > > pool of subjects for involuntary scientific experiments, claims one > > organization alarmed over the issue. > > > > "We are considered guinea pigs, as opposed to human beings with rights," > > according to Twila Brase, president of the Citizen's Council on Health > Care, > > a Minnesota based organization. "The Senate just voted to strip citizens > of > > parental rights, privacy rights, patient rights and DNA property rights. > > They voted to make every citizen a research subject of the state > government > > starting at birth," she said. "They voted to let the government create > > genetic profiles of every citizen without their consent." > > > > Brase warned that the ultimate outcome of such DNA databases could spark > the > > next wave of demands for eugenics, the science of improving the human race > > through the control of various inherited traits. The founder of Planned > > Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, who brought us the message of "choice" about > > reproductive freedom, was one of the original advocates of eugenics to > cull > > from the population people considered unfit. > > > > In 1921 Sanger said that eugenics is "the most adequate and thorough > avenue > > to the solution of racial, political and social problems". She later > > lamented "the ever increasing, unceasingly spawning of human beings who > > never should have been born at all". > > > > Minnesota lawmakers recently endorsed a proposal that would exempt > > stockpiles of DNA information already collected from every newborn from > any > > type of consent requirements. If approved, researchers would be able to > > utilize the DNA of more than 780,000 Minnesota children for whatever > > research project they have in mind, according to Brase. > > > > The DNA of every newborn will be collected at birth and "warehoused in a > > state genomic biobank, and given away to genetic researchers without > > parental consent, or in adulthood, without the individual's consent. > > Already, the health department reports that 42,210 children have been > > subjected to genetic research without their consent," Brase told World Net > > Daily. > > > > Although Brase works with Minnesota issues, similar laws, rules and > > regulations are already in use across the country. Lists of the various > > statutes or regulatory provisions under which the newborns' DNA is > collected > > for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, can be found in The > National > > Conference of State Legislatures. > > > > These programs are the result of "screening" requirements for the > detection > > of treatable illnesses. Senator Chris Dodd, D-Conn., wants to turn these > > programs into a consolidated national effort. "Fortunately, some newborn > > screening occurs in every state but fewer than half of the states > including > > Connecticut actually test for all disorders that are detectable," > according > > to Dodd who sees this legislation as providing resources for states to > > expand their newborn screening programs. > > > > The problem of all this for Brase is that &qu
Re: [Biofuel] New Legislation Calls for Government Ownership of DNA
it was written by B Minton Chris Burck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hmmm. bob unruh is not what i would call the most reliable source. for example, could chris dodd, in the cited quote, have been talking about, or in the context of the dna non-discrimination act that some lawmakers were so urgently trying to pass last week? mind you, a dna privacy law would be better. . . . On 4/30/08, Kirk McLoren wrote: > They are truly truly out of control. Who do they think they are? What a > collection of egotistical sociopaths > Kirk > > > http://www.naturalnews.com/z023126.html New Legislation Calls for > Government Ownership of DNAby Barbara L. Minton (see all articles by this > author) > > > (NaturalNews) An article published in the April 4, 2008 issue of World Net > Daily outlines a plan that has state and federal governments staking claim > to the ownership of every newborn's DNA in perpetuity. This Orwellian like > plan is advancing under the radar of most privacy rights activists, as well > as that of most people. It would turn the U.S. citizenry into an enormous > pool of subjects for involuntary scientific experiments, claims one > organization alarmed over the issue. > > "We are considered guinea pigs, as opposed to human beings with rights," > according to Twila Brase, president of the Citizen's Council on Health Care, > a Minnesota based organization. "The Senate just voted to strip citizens of > parental rights, privacy rights, patient rights and DNA property rights. > They voted to make every citizen a research subject of the state government > starting at birth," she said. "They voted to let the government create > genetic profiles of every citizen without their consent." > > Brase warned that the ultimate outcome of such DNA databases could spark the > next wave of demands for eugenics, the science of improving the human race > through the control of various inherited traits. The founder of Planned > Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, who brought us the message of "choice" about > reproductive freedom, was one of the original advocates of eugenics to cull > from the population people considered unfit. > > In 1921 Sanger said that eugenics is "the most adequate and thorough avenue > to the solution of racial, political and social problems". She later > lamented "the ever increasing, unceasingly spawning of human beings who > never should have been born at all". > > Minnesota lawmakers recently endorsed a proposal that would exempt > stockpiles of DNA information already collected from every newborn from any > type of consent requirements. If approved, researchers would be able to > utilize the DNA of more than 780,000 Minnesota children for whatever > research project they have in mind, according to Brase. > > The DNA of every newborn will be collected at birth and "warehoused in a > state genomic biobank, and given away to genetic researchers without > parental consent, or in adulthood, without the individual's consent. > Already, the health department reports that 42,210 children have been > subjected to genetic research without their consent," Brase told World Net > Daily. > > Although Brase works with Minnesota issues, similar laws, rules and > regulations are already in use across the country. Lists of the various > statutes or regulatory provisions under which the newborns' DNA is collected > for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, can be found in The National > Conference of State Legislatures. > > These programs are the result of "screening" requirements for the detection > of treatable illnesses. Senator Chris Dodd, D-Conn., wants to turn these > programs into a consolidated national effort. "Fortunately, some newborn > screening occurs in every state but fewer than half of the states including > Connecticut actually test for all disorders that are detectable," according > to Dodd who sees this legislation as providing resources for states to > expand their newborn screening programs. > > The problem of all this for Brase is that "researchers already are looking > for genes related to violence, crime, and different behaviors... This isn't > just about diabetes, asthma and cancer," she said. "It's also about > behavioral issues. In England they decided they should have doctors looking > for problem children, and have those children reported, and their DNA taken > in case they would become criminals." > > A senior police forensics expert believes that genetic samples should be > studied because identification of potential criminals as young as age 5 may > be identified, according to a UK published report. "If we have
[Biofuel] Fascists at it again
April 27, 2008 Print this article Bills C51& C52 - More Regulations To Protect Us Of Course Categories Control tactics Health through Nutrition Practical Health Take Action The Nature of Government The House of Commons Standing Committee on Health decided by way of a motion on January 29, 2008, to devote a full meeting for the purpose of hearing from various stakeholders on the subject of natural health products. The session will take place on Thursday, May 8, 2008, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., on Parliament Hill. Presenters at the meeting are asked to speak for a maximum of five minutes, to be followed by a series of questions from members of the Committee. Trueman Tuck of The Canadian Coalition for Health Freedom [CCHF] will be there along with others to stop these bills. The current status of the bill is provided by him below: Bill C-51 and 52 are tentatively scheduled for second reading today or tomorrow, and as a result of all of our efforts I believe there is a good possibility this vote will be delayed until at least Wednesday PM this week. There are four scenarios that are the 80% plus possibility; [a] The Bilderbergers and other Globalist? Shadow Rulers? will force the two bills through the second reading and into the Standing Committee on Health, which I am scheduled to speak to on May 8th 2008 on all of our behalf. This means in order to do that all of our supporters within the Conservative party will be whipped into submission clearing clarifying the end of Parliamentary, Constitutional Rule of British Law Democracy in Canada, [b] The vote will be delayed for a while in order to try and quell the caucus unrest, and may or may note come back in the same form or at all, [c] The bill will not pass second reading if the Conservatives have a free vote and other parties do the same. [d] The bill will pass second reading even with a Conservative free vote because of the other party?s whipped support. Please renew your members and pledge new monthly funding in order to provide our team with the resources to see our efforts though. I have spoken to our Ottawa friends today and will keep all of you updated day by day in this critical week of developments. Yours for Fundamental Justice, TrueMan - "Ever wonder who actually makes our laws and regulations such as the NAFTA, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) and whole host of others? Why these suddenly appear from thin air? Certainly the constituents don't generally make them! More often than not, there is no public consultation, input or pressure. These laws and regulations are mostly done in secrecy. Why the secrecy if the public is being represented for some perceived benefit? These laws and regulations are primarily made by private interests. These then are then the real law makers." Extracted from: Corrupt to the Core - Memoirs of a Health Canada Scientist - Bill 517: GE Labeling This is yet another striking, if not blatant, example of how and why our laws are made. And should leave no doubt on the adroit use of governments by the industry to harvest the masses to their end. Remember: "Most of the violence committed by "governments" against innocent, non-combatant civilians has been against "their citizens, not external "enemies."" "Bills such as C-51 are but thinly disguised variations on Nazi Germany's 1933 Enabling Act which removed Parliamentary decision making and oversight from national legislation. Stated in its simplest terms, these bills are intended to replace democratic representative government with un-elected, closed-door decision making which will bind all citizens. We are witnessing the transformation of North American democratic government into oligarchic tyranny. Will Canadian citizens wake up in time?.. ..Ken Adachi] " >From Kenn d'Oudney, The Democracy Defined Campaign April 27, 2008 Ask your MP why the government is so preoccupied with the generally non toxic nutritional health products and therapeutic goods given that: "In the Canadian context, MP Colin Carrie stated on March 9, 2005 in parliament that just allergies from peanuts alone result in approximately 5 to 10 deaths in Canada each year. By comparison, since 1960 not one death in Canada has been attributed to a natural health product. A tablespoon dose of salt or cayenne is far more dangerous than a tablespoon dose of say vitamin C or a magnesium supplement! I invite those who don't agree to try this on themselves! Dietary Supplements are the most benign segment of foods and should have never been separated to begin with! Bill C420 will restore these to their original rightful food category. It is abundantly clear that nutritional supplements are far far safer than foods let alone drugs. Hence, why the urgency and insistence to regulate them? In a new book, Death by Modern Medicine, Dr. Carolyn Dean rep
[Biofuel] Unintended GMO Health Risks
Does Monsanto actually produce anything that is health enhancing rather than health degrading? It seems to be the prime example of warped technology and junk science that's being foisted on us through its political payoffs. What actually is Monsanto's mission? == Spilling the Beans, March 2008 Subscribe to e-newsletter Spilling the Beans Donations Matched for April A challenge grant will match donations and memberships to our Institute (up to a total of $1500). We welcome your support in our efforts to stop the genetic engineering of the food supply. Click here to donate and/or become a member. This months Spilling the Beans features a new pamphlet on the health risks of GMOs. To view a PDF of our new handout, click here. The unformatted text of the pamphlet is reproduced below with references added. It is also available on our site, click here. The Institute has copies of the brochure available in bundles of 50, selling for just above our cost, click here. For large or custom print runs, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a more in-depth look at 65 health risks of GM foods, excerpted from Jeffrey Smith's comprehensive new book Genetic Roulette: The Documented Health Risks of Genetically Engineered Foods, click here. Unintended GMO Health Risks [I wonder if the negative effects to health are really unintended and not part of the population culling program. GMOs certainly fulfill the requirement of killing a lot of people in a very stealthy way as do aspartame, rBGH, vaccinations, chemtrails, prescription drugs, silver amalgams, etc.] Genetically modified foods: YES, you are already eating them. NO, they are not safe to eat. Did you know... since 1996 Americans have been eating genetically modified (GM) ingredients in most processed foods. Did you know... GM plants, such as soybean, corn, cottonseed, and canola have had foreign genes forced into their DNA. And the inserted genes come from species, such as bacteria and viruses, that have never been in the human food supply. Did you know... genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are not safe. They have been linked to thousands of toxic and allergenic reactions, thousands of sick, sterile, and dead livestock, and damage to virtually every organ and system studied in lab animals. Find out what the risks are and start protecting yourself and your family today! Why isnt the FDA protecting us? In 1992, the Food and Drug Administration claimed that they had no information showing that GM foods were substantially different from conventionally grown foods and therefore were safe to eat. But internal memos made public by a lawsuit reveal that their position was staged by political appointees under orders from the White House to promote GMOs. FDA scientists, on the other hand, warned that GMOs can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long term safety studies, but were ignored.[1] The FDA does not require any safety evaluations for GMOs. Instead, biotech companies, who have been found guilty of hiding toxic effects of their chemical products, are now in charge of determining whether their GM foods are safe. (The FDA official in charge of creating this policy was Michael Taylor, Monsantos former attorney and later their vice president.) Although these biotech companies participate in a voluntary consultation process with the FDA, it is a meaningless exercise. The summaries of the superficial research they submit cannot identify most of the health risks of GMOs.[2] Genetic modification is radically different from natural breeding In contrast to the statements of biotech advocates, FDA scientists and others affirm that genetic modification is not just an extension of the conventional breeding techniques that have been used by farmers for millennia. Genetic engineering transfers genes across natural species barriers, using imprecise laboratory techniques that bear no resemblance to natural breeding. Furthermore, the technology is based on outdated concepts of how genes and cells work.[3] Widespread, unpredictable changes Gene insertion is done either by shooting genes from a gene gun into a plate of cells or by using bacteria to invade the cell with foreign DNA. The altered cell is then cloned into a plant. These processes create massive collateral damage, causing mutations in hundreds or thousands of locations throughout the plants DNA.[4] Natural genes can be deleted or permanently turned on or off, and hundreds may change their levels of expression.[5] In addition: The inserted gene is often rearranged;[6] It may transfer from the food into our bodys cells or into the DNA of bacteria inside us;[7] and The GM protein produced by the gene may have unintended properties or effects. GM foods on the market The primary reason
[Biofuel] New Legislation Calls for Government Ownership of DNA
They are truly truly out of control. Who do they think they are? What a collection of egotistical sociopaths Kirk http://www.naturalnews.com/z023126.html New Legislation Calls for Government Ownership of DNAby Barbara L. Minton (see all articles by this author) (NaturalNews) An article published in the April 4, 2008 issue of World Net Daily outlines a plan that has state and federal governments staking claim to the ownership of every newborn's DNA in perpetuity. This Orwellian like plan is advancing under the radar of most privacy rights activists, as well as that of most people. It would turn the U.S. citizenry into an enormous pool of subjects for involuntary scientific experiments, claims one organization alarmed over the issue. "We are considered guinea pigs, as opposed to human beings with rights," according to Twila Brase, president of the Citizen's Council on Health Care, a Minnesota based organization. "The Senate just voted to strip citizens of parental rights, privacy rights, patient rights and DNA property rights. They voted to make every citizen a research subject of the state government starting at birth," she said. "They voted to let the government create genetic profiles of every citizen without their consent." Brase warned that the ultimate outcome of such DNA databases could spark the next wave of demands for eugenics, the science of improving the human race through the control of various inherited traits. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, who brought us the message of "choice" about reproductive freedom, was one of the original advocates of eugenics to cull from the population people considered unfit. In 1921 Sanger said that eugenics is "the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems". She later lamented "the ever increasing, unceasingly spawning of human beings who never should have been born at all". Minnesota lawmakers recently endorsed a proposal that would exempt stockpiles of DNA information already collected from every newborn from any type of consent requirements. If approved, researchers would be able to utilize the DNA of more than 780,000 Minnesota children for whatever research project they have in mind, according to Brase. The DNA of every newborn will be collected at birth and "warehoused in a state genomic biobank, and given away to genetic researchers without parental consent, or in adulthood, without the individual's consent. Already, the health department reports that 42,210 children have been subjected to genetic research without their consent," Brase told World Net Daily. Although Brase works with Minnesota issues, similar laws, rules and regulations are already in use across the country. Lists of the various statutes or regulatory provisions under which the newborns' DNA is collected for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, can be found in The National Conference of State Legislatures. These programs are the result of "screening" requirements for the detection of treatable illnesses. Senator Chris Dodd, D-Conn., wants to turn these programs into a consolidated national effort. "Fortunately, some newborn screening occurs in every state but fewer than half of the states including Connecticut actually test for all disorders that are detectable," according to Dodd who sees this legislation as providing resources for states to expand their newborn screening programs. The problem of all this for Brase is that "researchers already are looking for genes related to violence, crime, and different behaviors... This isn't just about diabetes, asthma and cancer," she said. "It's also about behavioral issues. In England they decided they should have doctors looking for problem children, and have those children reported, and their DNA taken in case they would become criminals." A senior police forensics expert believes that genetic samples should be studied because identification of potential criminals as young as age 5 may be identified, according to a UK published report. "If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long-term the benefits of targeting younger people are extremely large," according to Gary Pugh, director of forensics at Scotland Yard. "You could argue the younger the better. Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won't. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threats to society." The UK database is already the largest in Europe with 4.5 million genetic samples, but activists want it expanded. Costs and logistics make it impossible right now to demand everyone provide a DNA sample, Pugh said. Cognitive behavioral therapy is being suggested for targeted children from 5-12 in the UK, says the Institute for Public Policy Research. Pugh has suggested adding children to this database in primary schools, even if they have not offended. Alth
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines workasproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973
Talk about grasping at straws. The most efficient conversion would be at the highest temperature. It is , after all, a HEAT engine. Unfortunately we have no commercial materials that can withstand a stoichiometric mix. An engine run with a stoichiometric mix first burns the exhaust valves and if it runs long enough devours the pistons as well. Hitlers boys researched an engine that ran red hot but never got it out of the lab. The best practical engine I know of is a Bourke. The Experimental Aircraft Association had and perhaps still publishes a paper about it. Had 50:1 compression for those that understand why. Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -Original Message- From: Mike Pelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:41 PM To: 'sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org' Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines workasproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:50 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines workasproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973 A good ICE engine might turn one third of the input energy to mechanical energy, one third to heat rejected to the water jacket, and one third to heat in the exhaust stream. This is a good point, thanks for helping me make my point. If a significant portion of the heat going to the exhaust system and the water jacket instead went to heating up the gasoline in the heat exchanger to a vaporous state, than we now can see where some of the increased work used to increase the vehicles fuel mileage is coming from. It's been a while since I studied the Carnot cycle but am I right in remembering that the closer one can bring the incoming temperature to that of the outgoing temperature, the more efficient the cycle becomes? That is basically what happens when your robbing exhaust heat to heat the gasoline in the heat exchanger/exhaust manifold. The other thing that happens is that the vaporous gasoline has a much easier time mixing with the in coming air in the intake manifold. Far better than liquid gasoline sprayed in at ambient temperatures. If we use a 100kW (mechanical) engine (about 130HP), that means that it is also giving out 100kW of heat to the exhaust, and 100kW to the cooling water. Would that not mean it is now a 300kW?3 times 100? If it is indeed possible to double the efficiency of the engine by burning unburned hydrocarbons, then we must assume that we have 100kW of energy in unburned hydrocarbons leaving the tailpipe as well. If all of that is burned in the catalytic converter, it would have to dissipate 100kW of heat, or send it off as an even hotter exhaust stream. In addition to the 100kW of waste heat sent off in the exhaust stream already. I just question whether the average cat is capable of dissipating 100kW of heat without getting seriously hot -- not just the 1500F or so that they run, but 4000F or such... Think about a regular stove burner which manages to get to 3,000F with just 1500 watts of heat. I don't have the numbers to prove this though. Z On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Mike Pelly wrote: > You don't think cats are hot? Put your finger on one sometime and than > let me know what you think. They have shields all over them for a good reason. > They are very efficient at re-burning the hydrocarbon rich exhaust > but why are we not working to improve vehicle fuel effeciency by > burning this fuel properly the first time? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:21 AM > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work > > asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973 > > > > > The > > biggest problem in their logic is that if the catalytic converter > > really was burning off a large percentage of unburned hydrocarbons > in > the exhaust, it would have to be dissipating enormous amounts > of heat > -- and though they do run hot, they don't dissipate an > equal amount > of heat to the rest of the engine. Therefore, there > simply is not > that much unburned hydrocarbons to double the gas > mileage of a car > simply by increasing the combustion efficiency > (either by hydrogen > injection or gasoline vaporization or whatever). > > > I do not have a clue what point you are trying to make. Can you > take > another stab at this one? > > I think you've just made my point for me. When I bring it up the > first law of thermodynamics as a potential argument for why what you > are proposing won't work, you don't understand it. Unless you can > show me where I've drawn the energy boundries in my model in the > wrong place, I simply don't think it's possible -- if regular > automobiles were sending a
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973
the book of records efforts that were described to me used: accelerate modestly to 30 turn engine off and coast to 10. Unusable technique in the real world Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess we don't know Zeke and we never will if you have anything to do with it. Zeke it's 376MPG not 76, not 100mpg, not 200mpg. It's all those numbers added up. Please show me somewhere where you have seen gas mileage acheivements close to that number from a conventional car by, body arodynamics, weight reduction and slow steady speeds. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:32 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work asproventotheworldbyShell Oil Company in 1973 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Mike Pelly wrote: > As a mpg stunt, it's quite impressive, but as a scientific > experiment, it is unfortuneately not that useful on a quantitative > basis for designing more efficient cars. > Not if you don't want it to be. Do You want it to be Zeke? > Uh... it doesn't really matter whether or not I want it to be the article did not give numbers for what percent of the efficiency gain came from the different sources, so we can't really decided what is most important when designing a superefficient car. For example, if they'd run the regular opel around with the vaporized gasoline system for a while and gotten MPG numbers, then lightened it and gotten more MPG numbers, then changed the drive system and got some more numbers, then did the slow uniform speed test and got some more numbers... then we could have some idea of how much each item contributed. Without more detailed tests like that, we can only conjecture at how much each item contributed. What if the lightening of it contributed a doubling of economy, and the vaporized gas system only increased it another 20%? We just don't know... ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3060 (20080428) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3060 (20080428) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080428/cf9c39ec/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973
why would you drive a diesel when it is inferior to your brilliant discovery? Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I drive a diesel. The work I did on vaporized gasoline carburation ended in 1992 when I wrote the paper http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf .. If you read that paper than you'll see my recommendation for this technology is on a 'Prius' type hybrid electric car or a stationary generator. Read the paper and you'll understand my reasoning for this. I publish the paper here so others will be inspired to work on this technology as well and push it further. The timing for now is because of the collaborating and well documented proof by Shell Oil company with their 1973 project http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html that got 376 MPGs and came to the light again recently after 35 years of being tucked away in some garage. ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:49 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mike Pelly wrote: > quit your pompous pontificating. Can you please send information on the car that you drive, and what you have done to it to improve the efficiency, and what sort of average mpg you are getting from it? Z ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3060 (20080428) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3060 (20080428) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080428/bff128f7/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973
Just how many kW Hrs are in a gallon of gas Mike? These boys http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Research.html say 37. Even at 10 times that - you are going to roll an Opel a mile on a kWHr let alone 10 miles? I bet you will be touting perpetual motion next. This is a serious list mike. Enough of these opium dreams. Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry you had a hard time following the links Zeke, mayby your just not interested in reading what your finding out, for one reaon or another. Here are the links once again. I did check for you to make sure they worked. There might have been too many words there for you to read and I apologize for that but getting educated is sometimes a hard thing to do. http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf includes all the information one would ever need to design and build a vaporized gasoline fuel system. The 1959 Opel that got 376 MPGs back in 1973 and reported in the Febuary 20, 2008 'Seattle PI' newspaper is found at this link; http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:57 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proventotheworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973 On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Mike Pelly wrote: > come up with a solid > reason why Shell Oil was able to get 376MPGs (>7 times prius milage) > back in 1973. Were they? When I followed that link, I got a one page pdf which only seemed to contain the title page and endmost page of a paper... but it stated that they thought a 50% fuel efficiency improvement was possible -- of which 20% was from engine design changes -- reasonable, but, this is alot different than 376 mpg. Also, byronwine.com includes a bunch of stuff about running engines on water, which seriously hurts their credibility as a purveyor of actual information, unless someone can explain to me how the second law of thermodynamics allows extracting energy from water... even the websites on running your car on water can't get their chemistry right -- calling the mixture of hydrogen (H2) and oxygen (O2) gas generated by electrolysis HHO gas, as if they don't realize the difference between ions and molecules. Not saying that everything on there is bunk just because one thing is, but it doesn't lend credibility to the site. Z ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3058 (20080427) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3060 (20080428) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080428/3b0ebf54/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973
I said propane is completely vaporised. You dont get 200 mpg with a propane conversion. Stop talking rubbish. Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are we talking about the hydrocarbon content on a honda before or after the catalytic converter? There is a big difference. The cat does a great job cleaning up the exhaust by re-burning this fuel after it has gone through engine combustion. This does nothing towards working to push the car down the road. This is a waste of energy! Again study propane, Propane turns from a liquid to a gasious state at 143F degrees Below zero. When it is in a pressurized tank the tank pressure is 172PSI when ambient air temperature is 100F degrees. Gasoline on the other hand does not completely vaporized unless it is heated to 300F to 400F degrees. Where is the disconnect here for you Kirk? Shell Oil was able to prove this technology back in 1973. Have you read my paper or any of the others at wwwByronWine.com or do you just believe whatever party line (lie) your fed? Do your own research and come back with some rebuttals with substance please. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:26 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworldby Shell Oil Company in 1973 As you said - study propane. Doesnt get more vaporized than that. Running up to 35 mph and cutting the engine off and coasting to 10 and restarting the engine doesnt impress me either as NO ONE commutes to work that way. Just what do you think the unburned hydrocarbon content of for example a honda engine is? http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/14/1911225 Eco-Marathon Team Hits 2,843 mpg But - it has little relevance to everyday life. Carnot had a little bit to say about the reality of fantastic claims. Only so much energy in a gallon - even in a fuel cell which trumps your combustion engine. Kirk Mike Pelly wrote: "Modern engines combust quite well"?, than why the unburned hydrocarbons out the tailpipe and the need for catalytic converters? And was Shell Oil only blowing a whole lot of smoke back in 1973 when they were able to stretch 376 MPGs out of that 1959 Opel? Sorry Kirk but your going to have to do a better job than that to dispel this one. I know we have been getting fed a whole lot of bunk about this by the oil and auto companies since back 70 years ago when Charles Pogue first made this advancement famous but these are different times we are living in. Lets quit the BS'ing and take all measures we have available to address our Global Climate Change problem. Either attempt to re-enact this experiment yourself or shut up already and quit doing the bidding for the oil companies. It's real get over it. Vaporized gasoline mixes much more completely with air than sprayed liquid gasoline. Heating gasoline sufficiently turns it to a vapor. If you don't believe this than study propane carburation. Same thing just a few hundred degrees difference in properties. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:12 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworld by Shell Oil Company in 1973 The level of unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust tells you beyond a shadow of a doubt whether more perfect combustion can help. Period- the end. No amount of claims and mouse milk can alter this fact - which should be intuitively obvious. Modern engines combust quite well. Kirk John Mullan wrote: How does one vaporize all the different components in today's gasoline? Don't all those additives and stuff complicate the situation? John Mike Pelly wrote: > We did tests on Vaporized Gasoline carburation on a datsun/nissan 510 > and the gas milage results were not all that impressive. We were not > able to do any kind of test on a track or somewhere where we could > drive flat and straight on a carefully measured amount of gas. In our > estimate on our most careful test at the time (1992), we ended up > getting about 35mpg on a car that normally got about 28. > When doing this test we had (at times) everything dialed in and were > able to maintain the proper temperatures and the "Exhaust smelled > exactly like the exhaust from a Propane Powered Vehicle" (this car did > not have any cataletic converter on it either. > Other times while doing this same test, we did not have our > temperatures correct and the car was belching copious amounts of black > exhaust (unburned > gasoline) and was running like crap. > In writing my original paper back in 1992 I recommended this > technology would work best in a toyota prius type 'hybrid-electric' > car (this wa
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to the world by Shell Oil Company in 1973
Same reason JPL abandoned the hydrogen assist to complete combustion. Some of the gas was cracked to make hydrogen to propagate flame when the gasoline was too lean to burn by itself. You get lots of crud quickly. Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most all of the components do vaporized given enough heat. We heated to about 300F degrees but did find some nasty looking residues still remaining in the trap afterwards. Always was curious as to what these were. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mullan Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:30 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to the world by Shell Oil Company in 1973 How does one vaporize all the different components in today's gasoline? Don't all those additives and stuff complicate the situation? John Mike Pelly wrote: > We did tests on Vaporized Gasoline carburation on a datsun/nissan 510 > and the gas milage results were not all that impressive. We were not > able to do any kind of test on a track or somewhere where we could > drive flat and straight on a carefully measured amount of gas. In our > estimate on our most careful test at the time (1992), we ended up > getting about 35mpg on a car that normally got about 28. > When doing this test we had (at times) everything dialed in and were > able to maintain the proper temperatures and the "Exhaust smelled > exactly like the exhaust from a Propane Powered Vehicle" (this car did > not have any cataletic converter on it either. > Other times while doing this same test, we did not have our > temperatures correct and the car was belching copious amounts of black > exhaust (unburned > gasoline) and was running like crap. > In writing my original paper back in 1992 I recommended this > technology would work best in a toyota prius type 'hybrid-electric' > car (this was before they even were building the prius) or a > stationary gas powered generator. The prius type drive train would > work the best because it is easy to maintain an engine RPM range like > 2000-2500RPMs somewhere making it easyest to regulate the exhaust heat > and fuel pressure/volume and not have the problems we faced with a > conventional engine where the RPMs can continually jump from say > 500RMP at idle to 4000 for acceleration and back to 1000 for braking or shifting gears, continually. > My paper with photos and schematics is written under 'Nom de Plume' > of, Frieda Mind and can be found at www.ByronWine.com site: > >> http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf the paper includes >> all the >> > information one would ever need to design and build a vaporized > gasoline system for a prius type hybrid engine drivetrain. > The affirmation for anyone who still doubts this technology, should > come from that 1959 Opel that got 376 MPGs back in 1973 and reported > in the Febuary 20, 2008 'Seattle PI' newspaper found at this link; > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html The tests on > this 59 Opel were sponsored by Shell Oil. Granted the car was gutted > of many parts and was only going 30 miles per hour on a track But it did get 376mpg! > not 75, 100, or 200mpg. It got 376mpgs! This is 7 times the gas milege > of a standard Prius, our current state of the art in drive train configurations. > My hope is that home inventors will "Very Carefully!!!" experiment > with this technology and build their own versions, even if only on a > stationary generator and share their findings. This will help pull > this technology out of the locked file cases the car and oil companies > have held it in for too long now and out into the spot lights so we > can shame the car and oil companies into utilizing this technology Finally! > We all need to take some concrete steps towards addressing Global > Climate Changes. This advancement would be similar to what thousands > of biodiesel homebrewers have been able to do over the past 10 years > in making biodiesel a product consumers are now very aware of and demanding to have > available to them. Nuff said, Sincerely, Mike > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3057 (20080426) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworld by Shell Oil Company in 1973
As you said - study propane. Doesnt get more vaporized than that. Running up to 35 mph and cutting the engine off and coasting to 10 and restarting the engine doesnt impress me either as NO ONE commutes to work that way. Just what do you think the unburned hydrocarbon content of for example a honda engine is? http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/14/1911225 Eco-Marathon Team Hits 2,843 mpg But - it has little relevance to everyday life. Carnot had a little bit to say about the reality of fantastic claims. Only so much energy in a gallon - even in a fuel cell which trumps your combustion engine. Kirk Mike Pelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Modern engines combust quite well"?, than why the unburned hydrocarbons out the tailpipe and the need for catalytic converters? And was Shell Oil only blowing a whole lot of smoke back in 1973 when they were able to stretch 376 MPGs out of that 1959 Opel? Sorry Kirk but your going to have to do a better job than that to dispel this one. I know we have been getting fed a whole lot of bunk about this by the oil and auto companies since back 70 years ago when Charles Pogue first made this advancement famous but these are different times we are living in. Lets quit the BS'ing and take all measures we have available to address our Global Climate Change problem. Either attempt to re-enact this experiment yourself or shut up already and quit doing the bidding for the oil companies. It's real get over it. Vaporized gasoline mixes much more completely with air than sprayed liquid gasoline. Heating gasoline sufficiently turns it to a vapor. If you don't believe this than study propane carburation. Same thing just a few hundred degrees difference in properties. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:12 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to theworld by Shell Oil Company in 1973 The level of unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust tells you beyond a shadow of a doubt whether more perfect combustion can help. Period- the end. No amount of claims and mouse milk can alter this fact - which should be intuitively obvious. Modern engines combust quite well. Kirk John Mullan wrote: How does one vaporize all the different components in today's gasoline? Don't all those additives and stuff complicate the situation? John Mike Pelly wrote: > We did tests on Vaporized Gasoline carburation on a datsun/nissan 510 > and the gas milage results were not all that impressive. We were not > able to do any kind of test on a track or somewhere where we could > drive flat and straight on a carefully measured amount of gas. In our > estimate on our most careful test at the time (1992), we ended up > getting about 35mpg on a car that normally got about 28. > When doing this test we had (at times) everything dialed in and were > able to maintain the proper temperatures and the "Exhaust smelled > exactly like the exhaust from a Propane Powered Vehicle" (this car did > not have any cataletic converter on it either. > Other times while doing this same test, we did not have our > temperatures correct and the car was belching copious amounts of black > exhaust (unburned > gasoline) and was running like crap. > In writing my original paper back in 1992 I recommended this > technology would work best in a toyota prius type 'hybrid-electric' > car (this was before they even were building the prius) or a > stationary gas powered generator. The prius type drive train would > work the best because it is easy to maintain an engine RPM range like > 2000-2500RPMs somewhere making it easyest to regulate the exhaust heat > and fuel pressure/volume and not have the problems we faced with a > conventional engine where the RPMs can continually jump from say > 500RMP at idle to 4000 for acceleration and back to 1000 for braking or shifting gears, continually. > My paper with photos and schematics is written under 'Nom de Plume' > of, Frieda Mind and can be found at www.ByronWine.com site: > >> http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf the paper includes >> all the >> > information one would ever need to design and build a vaporized > gasoline system for a prius type hybrid engine drivetrain. > The affirmation for anyone who still doubts this technology, should > come from that 1959 Opel that got 376 MPGs back in 1973 and reported > in the Febuary 20, 2008 'Seattle PI' newspaper found at this link; > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html The tests on > this 59 Opel were sponsored by Shell Oil. Granted the car was gutted > of many parts and was only going 30 miles per
Re: [Biofuel] Vaporized gasoline engines work as proven to the world by Shell Oil Company in 1973
The level of unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust tells you beyond a shadow of a doubt whether more perfect combustion can help. Period- the end. No amount of claims and mouse milk can alter this fact - which should be intuitively obvious. Modern engines combust quite well. Kirk John Mullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How does one vaporize all the different components in today's gasoline? Don't all those additives and stuff complicate the situation? John Mike Pelly wrote: > We did tests on Vaporized Gasoline carburation on a datsun/nissan > 510 and the gas milage results were not all that impressive. We were not > able to do any kind of test on a track or somewhere where we could drive > flat and straight on a carefully measured amount of gas. In our estimate on > our most careful test at the time (1992), we ended up getting about 35mpg on > a car that normally got about 28. > When doing this test we had (at times) everything dialed in and > were able to maintain the proper temperatures and the "Exhaust smelled > exactly like the exhaust from a Propane Powered Vehicle" (this car did not > have any cataletic converter on it either. > Other times while doing this same test, we did not have our temperatures > correct and the car was belching copious amounts of black exhaust (unburned > gasoline) and was running like crap. > In writing my original paper back in 1992 I recommended this > technology would work best in a toyota prius type 'hybrid-electric' car > (this was before they even were building the prius) or a stationary gas > powered generator. The prius type drive train would work the best because it > is easy to maintain an engine RPM range like 2000-2500RPMs somewhere making > it easyest to regulate the exhaust heat and fuel pressure/volume and not > have the problems we faced with a conventional engine where the RPMs can > continually jump from say 500RMP at idle to 4000 for acceleration and back > to 1000 for braking or shifting gears, continually. > My paper with photos and schematics is written under 'Nom de Plume' > of, Frieda Mind and can be found at www.ByronWine.com site: > >> http://www.ByronWine.com/files/1992%20vapor.pdf the paper includes all the >> > information one would ever need to design and build a vaporized gasoline > system for a prius type hybrid engine drivetrain. > The affirmation for anyone who still doubts this technology, should > come from that 1959 Opel that got 376 MPGs back in 1973 and reported in the > Febuary 20, 2008 'Seattle PI' newspaper found at this link; > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html The tests on > this 59 Opel were sponsored by Shell Oil. Granted the car was gutted of many > parts and was only going 30 miles per hour on a track But it did get 376mpg! > not 75, 100, or 200mpg. It got 376mpgs! This is 7 times the gas milege of a > standard Prius, our current state of the art in drive train configurations. > My hope is that home inventors will "Very Carefully!!!" experiment > with this technology and build their own versions, even if only on a > stationary generator and share their findings. This will help pull this > technology out of the locked file cases the car and oil companies have held > it in for too long now and out into the spot lights so we can shame the car > and oil companies into utilizing this technology Finally! > We all need to take some concrete steps towards addressing Global > Climate Changes. This advancement would be similar to what thousands of > biodiesel homebrewers have been able to do over the past 10 years in making > biodiesel a product consumers are now very aware of and demanding to have > available to them. Nuff said, Sincerely, Mike > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 3057 (20080426) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080427/7649fbbb/attachment.html
[Biofuel] Fwd: E Bikes -- Phoenix Racer Hub Drive
http://www.electricrider.com/crystalyte/phoenix.htm sail4free <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: E Bikes -- Phoenix Racer Hub Drive == Another thing I like about the Phoenix Racer hub drive (the 48 volt 40 amp rear-drive version) is the batteries go inside nylon panniers which sit down inside a metal saddle-bag-style basket which sits on both sides of the rear rack (there's room for other stuff in the baskets too). This keeps the added weight over the rear drive wheel for better traction AND it keeps the center of gravity lower for better handling on high speed corners. It also somewhat conceals the view of this rather large hub drive motor -- making it less obvious that the trike (or bike) has been modified with electric-assist = and therefore less "TLC" from the policia. Plus the space ON (or above?) the rear rack remains available for other stuff. Our greenbelt doesn't allow "motorized" vehicles but I suspect that as long as I'm careful and keep my speed down, I can pedal whenever anyone is looking and the 'enforcers' (official and otherwise) will be none the wiser. http://www.electricrider.com/crystalyte/phoenix.htm == Quite an endorsement from the above site: "I think Phoenix makes the most useable, cost-effective light electric vehicle available today." == "The Phoenix is the most powerful motor available for a bike. The Phoenix Racer on a 26" wheel with a fully inflated street tire is about all a 180 lb rider can manage on a dry, paved surface." == sail4free == - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080424/ef825651/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] an ice age cometh?
Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-5013480,00.html Phil Chapman | April 23, 2008 THE scariest photo I have seen on the internet is www.spaceweather.com, where you will find a real-time image of the sun from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, located in deep space at the equilibrium point between solar and terrestrial gravity. What is scary about the picture is that there is only one tiny sunspot. Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming, the average temperature on Earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously. All four agencies that track Earth's temperature (the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California) report that it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007. This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record and it puts us back where we were in 1930. If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over. There is also plenty of anecdotal evidence that 2007 was exceptionally cold. It snowed in Baghdad for the first time in centuries, the winter in China was simply terrible and the extent of Antarctic sea ice in the austral winter was the greatest on record since James Cook discovered the place in 1770. It is generally not possible to draw conclusions about climatic trends from events in a single year, so I would normally dismiss this cold snap as transient, pending what happens in the next few years. This is where SOHO comes in. The sunspot number follows a cycle of somewhat variable length, averaging 11 years. The most recent minimum was in March last year. The new cycle, No.24, was supposed to start soon after that, with a gradual build-up in sunspot numbers. It didn't happen. The first sunspot appeared in January this year and lasted only two days. A tiny spot appeared last Monday but vanished within 24 hours. Another little spot appeared this Monday. Pray that there will be many more, and soon. The reason this matters is that there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth's climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790. Northern winters became ferocious: in particular, the rout of Napoleon's Grand Army during the retreat from Moscow in 1812 was at least partly due to the lack of sunspots. That the rapid temperature decline in 2007 coincided with the failure of cycle No.24 to begin on schedule is not proof of a causal connection but it is cause for concern. It is time to put aside the global warming dogma, at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850. There is no doubt that the next little ice age would be much worse than the previous one and much more harmful than anything warming may do. There are many more people now and we have become dependent on a few temperate agricultural areas, especially in the US and Canada. Global warming would increase agricultural output, but global cooling will decrease it. Millions will starve if we do nothing to prepare for it (such as planning changes in agriculture to compensate), and millions more will die from cold-related diseases. There is also another possibility, remote but much more serious. The Greenland and Antarctic ice cores and other evidence show that for the past several million years, severe glaciation has almost always afflicted our planet. The bleak truth is that, under normal conditions, most of North America and Europe are buried under about 1.5km of ice. This bitterly frigid climate is interrupted occasionally by brief warm interglacials, typically lasting less than 10,000 years. The interglacial we have enjoyed throughout recorded human history, called the Holocene, began 11,000 years ago, so the ice is overdue. We also know that glaciation can occur quickly: the required decline in global temperature is about 12C and it can happen in 20 years. The next descent into an ice age is inevitable but may not happen for another 1000 years. On the other hand, it must be noted that the cooling in 2007 was even faster than in typical glacial transitions. If it continued for 20 years, the temperature would be 14C cooler in 2027. By then, most of the advanced nations would have ceased to exist, vanishing under the ice, and the rest of the world would be faced with a catastrophe beyond imagining. Australia may escape total annihilation bu
Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now
I am in favor of new laws - only if you recind an old one. There are so many laws now the only way you know you are breaking one is if they pinch you. Kirk Brian Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So then what would be the suggestion? Sometimes laws are necessary to help or protect those who can't or won't do it them selves. If on a national level if lowering the speed limit 10 to 15 mph would help decrease our dependance on foreign oil or any oil for that matter then it should be addressed regardless of how popular or unpopular it is. Granted there are some laws that are nonsense, but they are necessary because without most of them there would be utter chaos. Brian On Apr 24, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Chip Mefford wrote: > Brian Schneider wrote: >> Hello, >> Just a comment, why don't we in the US do something else that was >> done in the 70's oil crisis...drop the speed limit back to 55. > > There were a *lot* of problems with this. I'm not going to > go into it all, in fact, I'm barely going to scratch the > surface. But essentially, the nationwide 55mph speed limit > was about as popular as prohibition, and caused many of > the same problems. > > In interest of full disclosure, > when ever I hear 'There ought to be a law", > I duck. > > We have plenty of laws. a few orders of magnitude > too many I'd say. In fact, I'd point to the > current state of affairs as my primary exhibit > in the 'laws don't fix anything' presentation. > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080424/dcc10a2b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] cure for incurable viral disease
Hulda Clark is a quack. The frequency stuff is at best a placebo. Beck reversed the current so you dont get tattooed. Ions migrate from the negative electrode so if you reverse the current they migrate back. Otherwise you will be permanently marked. This one is sans relay http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/buildyourown.html If you think it is crap read this: In the Fall of 1990, two medical researchers, Drs. William Lyman and Steven Kaali, working at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City made an important discovery. They found that they could inactivate the HIV virus by applying a low voltage direct current electrical potential with an extremely small current flow to AIDS infected blood in a test tube. Initially, they discovered this in the lab by inserting two platinum electrodes into a glass tube filled with HIV-1 (type 1) infected blood. They applied a direct current to the electrodes and found that a current flow in the range of 50-100 microamperes (uA) produced the most effective results. Practically all of the HIV viral particles were adversely affected while normal blood cells remained unharmed. The viral particles were not directly destroyed by the electric current, but rather the outer protein coating of the virus was affected in such a way as to prevent the virus from producing reverse transcriptase, a necessary enzyme needed by the virus to invade human cells. Reverse transcriptase allows the virus to enter a human T cell line (called CEM-SS) and commandeer the DNA reproduction machinery. After using the host cell to reproduce itself into thousands of new virii, the swollen host cell (now called syncytia or giant cell) will burst and spew the contents into the bloodstream or lymph system. This is how the virus spreads, but lacking reverse transcriptase, the HIV virus can't invade the host cell and it becomes vulnerable to destruction by the body's immune system. (The details of this experiment can be read from Kaali's patent application.) A brief announcement of this discovery appeared in The Houston Post (Mar 20, 1991), then in Science News (Mar. 30, 1991 pg. 207) and later in Longevity magazine: (Dec.1992 pg. 14). Following their work in the Fall of 1990, Kaali and Lyman presented their findings at the First International Symposium on Combination Therapies (an AIDS conference) in Washington DC on March 14th, 1991. Kaali outlined two methods for treating an AIDS patient with this new therapy: One method involved removing a small amount of blood, electrifying it and then returning it to the patient's body. The second method involved sewing a miniature electrifying power supply along with two tiny electrodes directly into the lumen of an artery. For long term treatment, the mini electrifying unit needed to be removed and relocated to a new artery site after 30-45 days since scar tissue and calcification forming around the implant unit would lead to artery blockage. Kaali (along with co-inventor Peter Schwolsky) filed for a patent on this implantable electrifying device on Nov 16, 1990 and nine months later was granted patent #5,139,684 on August 18, 1992. It's interesting to note two things here: 1. In order to obtain a patent from the United States Patent Office, Kaali and Schwolsky had to prove that the device works as claimed. Lacking solid proof, US patents are simply not granted. 2. Very often it takes years to obtain a patent, yet this patent was granted in only nine months; a further indication to me of the strength of their demonstrated claims It's also interesting to note that other than the 3 publications mentioned above and the March '91 AIDS conference, nothing again appeared in print, radio, or TV about this important discovery as a potential treatment and cure for AIDS from Kaali and company. Most knowledgeable observers feel that Kaali and Lyman's discovery was intentionally suppressed following the March '91 AIDS conference presentation. If AIDS research was on the level and not the sham that it actually is, this should have made front page news around the world. (Around 1999, I was contacted by a woman with AIDS who had managed to reach Dr. William Lyman over the phone. She asked him about his experiments with Kaali regarding blood electrification and if she could obtain the treatment through them. Lyman denied any knowledge of any AIDS treatment or cure. He said he never heard of Dr. Kaali and he had no idea what she was talking about concerning blood electrification and then hung up on her. What does that tell about the power of the people behind the suppression of this discovery?) http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2862.shtml http://www.toolsforhealing.com/CD/Articles/B/BobBeck/BobBeckInfo.html http://worldfoodandhealthwatch.tribe.net/thread/10ca7acb-15bb-4590-b031-cad7fdbc215d http://www.toolsforhealing.com/CD/Articles/K/KaaliPatent-Condens
[Biofuel] cure for incurable viral disease
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[Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage
Bush is an oilman. What do you expect? Kirk sail4free <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: sail4free <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LittleHouses] There Is No Gas Shortage == It's rare that I would post a complete article -- especially one that is arguably OT -- but this one strikes to the heart of what is going on with our rapidly escalating fuel prices (with no end in sight). FWIW, we here in Idaho (on average) have reduced our demand nearly 10% from one year ago -- no doubt as a direct result of high prices. If you read only one article about the WHY of gas prices this year, this needs to be that article: == Viewpoint April 1, 2008 == There is No Gas Shortage, but Washington, Wall Street, and ethanol and oil and gas companies want you to think there is, says automotive expert Ed Wallace: == "They see speculation in the market, I see decline in global inventories. I don't think this is a big surprise, that we've had a jump in price when there has been a decrease in crude inventories." Energy Secretary Sam Bodman, Bloomberg News, Mar. 5, 2008 == "It should be obvious to you all that the [gasoline] demand is outstripping supply, which causes prices to go up." President George W. Bush, Associated Press, Mar. 5, 2008 == One wonders if verifiable facts ever get in the way of this administration's statements on issues that are critical to the average American's wellbeing. After all, last time I checked, when politicians are elected to public office, or appointed, as is Energy Secretary Samuel W. Bodman, they must take an oath to the American people before assuming their new positions. How can they forget a sacred oath so quickly? Were they daydreaming when they took it, so it never meant anything to begin with? Maybe it's just another promise you have to make to get into office: When you're securely incumbent you can ignore even solemn oaths you took. == Obviously, the two quotes that led this article came from discussions concerning the current high price for oil on the futures market. Bodman appears to be protecting the speculators in oil, as opposed to looking after the interests of all Americans. President Bush, apparently, has never talked to the Energy Dept.'s Energy Information Agency to see whether gasoline demand is actually up. More troubling, the writer of that particular Associated Press article obviously didn't look up the EIA's numbers to verify the President's assertions. They weren't accurate. == 1. There Is No Shortage == Gasoline reserves on hand are at the highest levels since the early 1990s, which is remarkable considering the nation's refineries have been cutting back on the production of gasoline because their margins have declined. In fact, average gasoline reserves on hand have risen since this past October, while oil reserves in this country have gone up virtually every week this yearand only fog in the Houston Ship Channel that kept oil tankers from unloading their crude one week kept it from being every week. == In the same Bloomberg article that quotes from Bodman's CNBC appearance on Mar. 4, he also said that it was thanks to ethanol that the gasoline problem isn't even worse. He then added that the fact that making ethanol is forcing up prices of other farm commodities, including hog and chicken feed, is "nowhere near as important as trying to relieve pressure on [gasoline] supplies." == Of course, there is no pressure on gasoline supplies in this country as of today, but Bodman's statement must have made eyes roll among the executives at Pilgrim's Pride PPC; the Pittsburg, (Tex.) poultry producer announced 1,100 layoffs on Mar. 13, closing one processing plant and 6 of their 13 distribution centers because their company's outlay for chicken feed went up $600 million last fiscal year and was on track to increase by another $700 million this year. == Here's the scorecard, in case you missed it. There's no shortage of gasoline or oil in the U.S. today, and we have near-record reserves on hand. Meanwhile the Congressional mandate for ethanol has jacked up the price of chicken feed for Pilgrim's Pride, which is the U.S.'s largest processor of chickens and turkeysby $1.3 billion. And that's for just one company processing chicken. This is what passes for acceptable to our Energy Secretary? == 2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP == Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on oil supplies, production, and gasoline demand. == In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in
[Biofuel] You Thought MSG Was Bad?
anyone who doesnt grow their own food and cook from scratch is suicidal. Kirk http://www.naturalnews.com/022982.html You Thought MSG Was Bad? At least they admit that it's in there... well, mostly. Have you picked up a can of soup lately and noticed that the sodium levels are lower? Seen a label that said, "No MSG"? How about realizing that there is less sugar on the label of your favorite ice cream? Believe it or not, this is cause for concern. This article has been especially hard to compose. "Why?", you may ask. There is simply not much information to be found on the subject. It has taken weeks of internet research to uncover the smidgen of information that has been acquired. A relatively young company, Senomyx, may be responsible for the sodium and sugar levels falling in your favorite grocery store item. How are they doing this without affecting the taste? The truth is, they may be putting chemicals into your food right now without you even realizing it and without telling you. And guess what? They don't have to. Senomyx has contracted with Kraft, Nestle, Coca Cola, Campbell Soup to put a chemical in foods that masks bitter flavors by turning off bitter flavor receptors on the tongue and enhancing salty and sweet flavors. This would allow the companies to tout claims such as "less sugar" or "lower sodium" by reducing the actual sugar and/or salt by approximately half, but the foods will retain the same level of sweetness or saltiness when they touch the tongue by fooling your brain. All of the companies, although admitting the exclusive contracting rights, decline to identify which foods and beverages the chemical additives have been or will be added to. These chemical compounds are not required to be listed separately on food labels. On the contrary, they will be lobbed under the umbrella of "artificial flavors" which is already found on most food labels. The foods that seem to be most in jeopardy of an insurrection of these new chemicals: soups, juices (fruit and vegetable), ice cream, and sauces. "We are helping companies clean up their labels," said Kent Snyder, chief executive of Senomyx. Mark Zoller, Senomyx's chief scientist, says that his company has used the human genome sequence and identified hundreds of taste receptors. Senomyx's chemical compounds enhance those receptors to heighten the taste of salt or sugar. Under this premise, they go on to claim that their newly added chemicals are completely safe because they will be used in tiny quantities of less than one part per million whereas artificial sweeteners are used in 200-500 parts per million. This fact alone allows them to forgo the rigorous FDA approval process when introducing new food additives into the marketplace. Attaining the status of GRAS (generally recognized as safe) from the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association for their most advanced product that replaces MSG, took this fledgling company less than an 18 month time frame by introducing a safety study of rats conducted for 3 months. Executive Director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, Michael Jacobson, commended Senomyx's strides to reduce MSG, salt, and sugar but warned against introducing a new chemical additive into the food supply without strenuous testing. "A three-month study is completely inadequate," he said. "What you want is at least a two-year study on several species of animals." After pouring a total of 30 million dollars into research and development, the companies that have invested into Senomyx's products have been secretive, to say the least, about their involvement within the company. Some, like Kraft, have declined to divulge any specifics regarding their relationship with Senomyx but instead stated that Kraft was committed "to reducing the sugar and salt levels in many products." Nestle and Coca Cola declined to comment. I think silence says it all. References: (http://www.senomyx.com/collaborations/) (http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12053) ((http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/06/busin...) ((http://www.mindfully.org/GE/2005/Senomy...) ((http://www.ucsf.edu/synapse/content/200...) About the authorJennifer McKinley is a wife, mother of five, home-schooler, and business owner. She has spent years researching issues dealing with holistic and natural medicine and how different chemicals in our homes, foods, medications, and environments affect our health and quality of life. Her goal is to promote public awareness and knowledge regarding these issues. ### - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080419/a5cef8ce/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sus
Re: [Biofuel] Message In A Bottle
3.5 million tons of plastic ? Pyrolytic distillation should yield 300 million gallons. Is that enough to attract reclaiming? Kirk Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.gtweekly.com/good-times/message-in-a-bottle-1 Message In A Bottle Written by Amanda Martinez Wednesday, 19 March 2008 Trash twice the size of the continental United States is collecting in the North Pacific, but here's the kicker: most of it is made to last forever. One sunny day 10 years ago, Captain Charles Moore was sailing home from a yacht race in Hawaii when he steered his boat off-course in search of a little adventure in the North Pacific. Heading north in his 50-foot catamaran, Alguita, Moore wanted to graze the lower Eastern corner of a rarely sailed region, the North Pacific subtropical gyre, before making his way home to Long Beach, California. The most remarkable characteristic of the gyre, a 10-million-square-foot, clockwise-churning vortex of four converging ocean currents, was supposed to be its unique weather pattern. It's a high-pressure area, meaning that warm air hovers over it. The air is still. There's no wind. Picture an immense oceanic desert. Frustrated sailors long ago christened the area "the doldrums" and avoided it, as do predatory fish who find no prey within its calm, nutrient-lean depths. "It almost looks like an oil slick, or like a mirror. It's really beautiful, the phenomena of a very smooth ocean," says researcher Dr. Marcus Eriksen. But as Moore ventured into the gyre, his fascination with weather patterns gave way to a different reaction-alarm. In this most remote part of the ocean, his expectation of the pristine was met by blight. A vast array of trash-bottle caps, plastic bottles, fishing floats, wrappers, plastic bags and fragments, many tiny plastic fragments-stretched before Moore as far as the eye could see. His alarm turned to shock. It took him a week to sail through the gyre, the debris surrounding his boat the entire time. Dr. Marcus Eriksen considers his first encounter with the gyre to have occurred on the beach in 2001 while teaching bird biology to high school students. This particular beach belonged to Midway Atoll, the last island of the Hawaiian Archipelago. "I noticed the hundreds of carcasses of Laysan albatrosses," says Eriksen. "Every single one had a handful of plastic inside its rib cage." He quickly made the connection between the plastic pieces and their stark resemblance in ocean waters to the fish, squid and krill that serve as staples of the foraging albatross' diet. "I knew there was this floating plastic that these birds were consuming," he says. "That got me interested in the issue." Four years later, Eriksen became director of research and education for the Algalita Marine Research Foundation (AMRF), the nonprofit that Moore founded after discovering the gyre. Together, Moore, whose résumé reads like a coming-of-age at sea story-deck hand, stock tender, able seaman and now captain-and Eriksen, a Marine who served in the first Gulf War, have made several trips back to the gyre to research the content and extent of its massive pollution and monitor its growth. When not at sea, the two men are working tirelessly to educate the public as to its existence and causes. So Rubber Duckie, You're the One By now, you may have heard reports of the enormous "trash patch" forming in the North Pacific gyre, as major news outlets have a two-minute, sound-bite love affair with the gyre's pervasive description. "It's twice the size of Texas," they say. "It's an incredible, floating, plastic island in the middle of the ocean." "Twice the size of Texas is inaccurate. I wouldn't use that anymore," says Eriksen, who returned on Feb. 28 from AMRF's latest 4,000-mile research mission, during which he spent a solid four weeks in the gyre, running experiments. "If you want to give folks an idea of the extent of pollution in this gyre, I'd say twice the size of the continental United States is the best way to put it." THIN PLASTIC SOUP Plastic and plankton duke it out in a 6:1 ratio in this one-mile trawl sample from the North Pacific Gyre. The "floating plastic island" metaphor, which may very well have been the gyre's one-way ticket to urban legend, is also out. The details of the truth that stand in its wake, however, are much more pernicious. "It's not a plastic patch. There is no island out there," explains Eriksen. But if it's still the salient metaphor you're after, Eriksen is armed with one. "I'd say endless from Hawaii to L.A. is a thin plastic soup. The rope and the netting and the monofilament line, all the fishing gear that's out there, there's a lot of that, we'll call that the noodles. The vegetables are all the big stuff, like the fishing floats and the plastic bottles. We found a suitcase floating aroundbig chunks of Styrofoam, tons of bottles, milk crates, fishing crates. I found
[Biofuel] Fwd: GM Failures Continue
The directors and managers of Monsanto should be put in prison for life. We all object when a gunman shoots people in a school yet these people will kill us all. Their assets should also be confiscated and distributed among their victims. Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.ukThis article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/gmFailuresContinue.php ISIS Press Release 16/04/08 GM Failures Continue #The GM industry has been ailing at least as far back as 2005, but kept alive by an aggressive campaign of disinformation. GM Watch (www.gmwatch.org) brings you the latest GM failures 2007-2008GM cotton debacle in IndiaGM cotton has been failing in India and elsewhere for years [1] (Broken Promises, SiS 22), escalating the epidemic of farmers suicides [2] (Stem Farmers Suicides with Organic Farming, SiS 32). Unfortunately, the Indian government has allowed the commercial planting to continue with drastic consequences.BT cotton failed in VidarbhaA study on the introduction of Bt cotton in Indias cotton- growing belt of Vidarbha revealed that it failed in the region. Suman Sahai, director of Gene Campaign, which conducted the study, said that despite knowing that Bt cotton would not work in rainfed areas, the state government introduced it. The high input costs of Bt cotton increased indebtedness, and the study showed that 70 per cent of small farmers lost their landholdings as collateral for loans that they could never repay.The study also showed that farmers who adopted Bt cotton had a net lower income than non-Bt cotton farmers. Seed dealers had promised farmers that they would get 1215 quintals per acre when the actual yields were 35 quintals [3]In February 2007, five districts of Vidarbha where Bt cotton was widely adopted reported nearly 1 500 farmers committing suicide in the previous 20 months [4].More livestock deaths from grazing Bt cottonWith reports of deaths of livestock that had grazed on Bt cotton in 2006 still fresh [5] (Mass Deaths in Sheep Grazing on Bt Cotton, SiS 30), more deaths and illnesses in sheep and goats were seen in the early months of 2007. Symptoms included bloating of the stomach, black patches on the intestines, lung congestion, green and red mucus flow from nostrils, reddish urine, sneezing, and skin allergies. Women cotton pickers also reported skin allergies [6], another problem with Bt cotton reported widely in 2006 [7] (More Illnesses Linked to Bt Crops, SiS 30). Read the rest of this article here http://www.i-sis.org.uk/gmFailuresContinue.php This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/gmFailuresContinue.php If you like this original article from the Institute of Science in Society, and would like to continue receiving articles of this calibre, please consider making a donation or purchase on our website http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ISISappeal.php ISIS is an independent, not-for-profit organisation dedicated to providing critical public information on cutting edge science, and to promoting social accountability and ecological sustainability in science. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080417/ed8715a0/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Monsanto - uncut version
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