Re: forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

Kim,

Are u talking about just forwarding an email that someone else sent to you? 
Or are you talking about adding attachments to your message?


-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Kim Lingo via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:20 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

I'm high, thank you very much. I'll try that.

Kim Lingo


On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Kim Lingo  wrote:

Does anyone know how to do this—forward a message using Windows 7 with WE 
9.5.3, the free version.  I’ve tried this quite a while ago, and I thought 
it worked, but I don’t see the option now, and neither does my wife who is 
sighted.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Kim Lingo

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Re: forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

I'm high, thank you very much. I'll try that.

Kim Lingo

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Kim Lingo  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how to do this—forward a message using Windows 7 with WE 
> 9.5.3, the free version.  I’ve tried this quite a while ago, and I thought it 
> worked, but I don’t see the option now, and neither does my wife who is 
> sighted.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
> Kim Lingo
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Re: forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

control F



-Original Message- 
From: Kim Lingo via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

Does anyone know how to do this—forward a message using Windows 7 with WE 
9.5.3, the free version.  I’ve tried this quite a while ago, and I thought 
it worked, but I don’t see the option now, and neither does my wife who is 
sighted.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Kim Lingo
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forwarding messages with Windows Live Mail

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

Does anyone know how to do this—forward a message using Windows 7 with WE 
9.5.3, the free version.  I’ve tried this quite a while ago, and I thought it 
worked, but I don’t see the option now, and neither does my wife who is 
sighted.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
Kim Lingo
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Re: Java script message on bootup

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Bob, this behavior is definitely kind of weird. I had the same thing 
happen after allowing an update for my Adobe Flash Player from a Web 
site. The only way I managed to get rid of it in that instance was to do 
a system restore. About the only advice I got from anyone was to the 
effect of just waiting it out and it would/might eventually go away, but 
it was just too annoying, and I thought that some kind of malware might 
be involved, so I took the above action, and it did the trick.


Why this should happen after installing a motherboard and a processor is 
a real mystery, but I don't know what else to suggest.


On 12/22/2016 4:15 PM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

I just installed a new motherboard and processor in my computer, and now
when the computer either restarts or boots from shut down, I get a java
script message that mentions Active x and shell along with a lot of
random letters and numbers.

Does anyone know how I can get rid of this annoying behavior? I'm
running Windows 10 pro.





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Windoweyes and iTunes

[John Christie via Talk]

Hi. I am new to Windoweyes and would like to sync my Outlook calendar to my
iPhone. I was taught to tab to summary and press I for info. However, I
can't find these two features using Windoweyes. How can I sync my outlook
calendar to my iPhone calendar  using Windoweyes  and iTunes?  Thanks for
your help. 

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Java script message on bootup

[Bob Tinney via Talk]

I just installed a new motherboard and processor in my computer, and now 
when the computer either restarts or boots from shut down, I get a java 
script message that mentions Active x and shell along with a lot of 
random letters and numbers.


Does anyone know how I can get rid of this annoying behavior? I'm 
running Windows 10 pro.





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Re: Window-eyes is still great

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

True. If it's still available by the time I've managed to save up enough to 
buy an upgrade and SMA for my retail copy of WE I'll certainly do it. I 
suppose I could go ahead and buy the upgrade first and then the SMA later 
but it'd be nice to do it all at once and have done. I for one will use it 
as long as I can.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:54 AM
To: Kim Lingo ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes is still great

  The future of Window-eyes may be in somewhat doubt but as
long as they're still selling it and as long as people are using it it's
still alive, and it's what I use on a daily basis. lets stop being so
negative.  The very moment I get official word from either VFO, or
someone from AI Squared, i'm going on the idea that Window-eyes
is still alive and kicking.




On 12/22/2016 1:05 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:

   Hi everyone,
I think general opinion is right here.  Let's all start coming up with 
original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect things. 
I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than pressing 
control-r, but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity.

Kim Lingo


-Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts 
WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


Amen to this.



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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
via Talk  wrote:


And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


  - Original Message -   From: Jim via Talk
  To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


  I agree!

  There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding
  this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I
  think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
  unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
  discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
  spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it. 
PLEASE

  folks!  Have A Great Day! de

  .


  On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  > I agree.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
  > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
  > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >
  > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's 
the

  > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
  > friends...
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
  >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
  >> selling it?  Pam.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
  >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving 
Ai

  >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
  >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
  >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I 
sent

  >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
  >> this tell you?
  >>
  >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi there FOLKS!
  >>>
  >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as 
far

  >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
  >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
  >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
  >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS 
about

  >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
  >>> APPRECIATE!. 
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
   Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
   good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better 
job

   than Window Eyes.
  
   But, JAWS in my experience 

Re: For Gawd Sakes, STOP

[Tony C via Talk]

Ditto!

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:59 PM
To: Talk
Subject: For Gawd Sakes, STOP

This list is for one another to help each other in matters pertaining to 
Window-Eyes, not to beat dead horses.


I am a busy person. Believe it or not, it takes time to go down the list and 
delete stupid, unnecessary messages. When I ask a question about Window-Eyes 
and WLM, why do I not get an answer? But I get 100 emails saying Window-Eyes 
is dead.


If you think its dead then go away. Go somewhere else and annoy someone 
else.


I hate to unsubscribe from this list but will have to do if this nonsense 
doesn’t stop. I just don’t have the time for it.


Don’t you people have something better to do than beat dead horses here on 
this list?


For gawd sakes, can’t you do something constructive like maybe get a job? At 
least go out and look for one.


If Window-Eyes goes away, it goes away. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Posting 
hundreds of emails saying emails saying the same thing over and over isn’t 
going to help decide what happens to it.


If you want to make a difference, write a letter to the head of whatever 
company now owns it certify it so the owner, or someone very high in the 
organization will have to sign for it.


Please help all of us save our delete key from wearing out.


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Re: Window-eyes is still great

[Steve Bauer via Talk]

Over the years, GW Micro - Window Eyes has better served customers than JAWS 
has ever done.  Better customer service and a program that was more solid 
and did not crash hardly ever.


Been using window Eyes since 1992 or somewhere around that time.

Steve

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Re: Window-eyes is still great

[Bob Tinney via Talk]

I also agree!

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 12/22/2016 2:01 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:

Me too, Chris.  Window-Eyes is my dailey product as well.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:54 AM
To: Kim Lingo; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes is still great

The future of Window-eyes may be in somewhat doubt but as
long as they're still selling it and as long as people are using it it's
still alive, and it's what I use on a daily basis. lets stop being so
negative.  The very moment I get official word from either VFO, or
  someone from AI Squared, i'm going on the idea that Window-eyes
is still alive and kicking.




On 12/22/2016 1:05 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:

Hi everyone,
I think general opinion is right here.  Let's all start coming up with
original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect
things. I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than
pressing control-r, but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity.
Kim Lingo


-Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts
WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

Amen to this.



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www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
via Talk  wrote:


And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


   - Original Message -   From: Jim via Talk
   To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


   I agree!

   There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO
regarding
   this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA.
So I
   think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
   unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
   discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting
and
   spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.
PLEASE
   folks!  Have A Great Day! de

   .


   On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
   > I agree.
   >
   > -Original Message-
   > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
   > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
   > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
   > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >
   > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead.
it's the
   > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
   > friends...
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
   >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
   >> selling it?  Pam.
   >>
   >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
   >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
   >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >>
   >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees
leaving Ai
   >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
   >>
   >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
   >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
   >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >>
   >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I
sent
   >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What
does
   >> this tell you?
   >>
   >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
   >>> Hi there FOLKS!
   >>>
   >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago,
as far
   >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or
intermediate
   >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
   >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to
for
   >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS
about
   >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
   >>> APPRECIATE!. 
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
    Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a
very
    good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a
better job
    than Window Eyes.
   
    But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its 

For Gawd Sakes, STOP

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

This list is for one another to help each other in matters pertaining to 
Window-Eyes, not to beat dead horses.

I am a busy person. Believe it or not, it takes time to go down the list and 
delete stupid, unnecessary messages. When I ask a question about Window-Eyes 
and WLM, why do I not get an answer? But I get 100 emails saying Window-Eyes is 
dead. 

If you think its dead then go away. Go somewhere else and annoy someone else. 

I hate to unsubscribe from this list but will have to do if this nonsense 
doesn’t stop. I just don’t have the time for it.

Don’t you people have something better to do than beat dead horses here on this 
list?

For gawd sakes, can’t you do something constructive like maybe get a job? At 
least go out and look for one.

If Window-Eyes goes away, it goes away. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Posting 
hundreds of emails saying emails saying the same thing over and over isn’t 
going to help decide what happens to it.

If you want to make a difference, write a letter to the head of whatever 
company now owns it certify it so the owner, or someone very high in the 
organization will have to sign for it. 

Please help all of us save our delete key from wearing out.


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Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Mark Twain
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RE: Window-eyes is still great

[CJ MAY via Talk]

What a great subject line!

Let's not kill it off until we have to!

 

Alison

 

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Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

[RJ Sandefur via Talk]

I could care less about your freeking wining!  No wonder people think 
blind people are stupid because of pointless crap like this enough already!


On 12/22/2016 3:29 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
> Exactly what will be  is what will be so quit being negative!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:12 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
> Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> And, my delete finger is getting tired.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
> Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Jim via Talk
>To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
>
>I agree!
>
>There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding
>this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I
>think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
>unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
>discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
>spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
>folks!  Have A Great Day! de
>
>.
>
>
>On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> I agree.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
>> thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>> friends...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
>>> selling it?  Pam.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
>>> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
>>> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
> Window-Eyes.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
>>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
>>> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
>>> this tell you?
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
>>>> Hi there FOLKS!
>>>>
>>>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
>>>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
>>>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
> about
>>>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
>>>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
>>>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
>>>> APPRECIATE!. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
> than Window Eyes.
>
> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
> upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
> andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
> an extra $200.
> Then
> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
>
> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
> else in my system that caused the system lock up.
>
> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her 

RE: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Exactly what will be  is what will be so quit being negative!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


  - Original Message -
  From: Jim via Talk
  To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


  I agree!

  There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding
  this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I
  think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
  unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
  discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and 
  spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE 
  folks!  Have A Great Day! de

  .


  On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  > I agree.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
  > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
  > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >
  > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
  > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
  > friends...
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
  >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
  >> selling it?  Pam.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
  >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
  >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
  >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
  >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
  >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
  >> this tell you?
  >>
  >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi there FOLKS!
  >>>
  >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
  >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
  >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
  >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
  >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
  >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
  >>> APPRECIATE!. 
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
   Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
   good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
   than Window Eyes.
  
   But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
   and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
   upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
   andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
   an extra $200.
   Then
   they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
   trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
  
   And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
   loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
   else in my system that caused the system lock up.
  
   I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
   and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
   Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find
   her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old
girl.
  
   Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to
   do with the desperation of many who are Blind.
  Here is something to think about-
   I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a
   Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive,
   for $250.
  
   We have a store here called Re-PC that 

Window-Eyes is still ALIVE AND KICKING!

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there folks! Hope that subject is a bit more realistic as to the use 
of Window-Eyes.  Anyhow, as I stated in a previous MSG, I have evry 
intention of purchasing a new SMA as soon as I am able! I will simply 
have to wait and see what happens with the development of future 
versions of Window-Eyes. Personally I would hate to see it go, but if it 
does, I will just have to make do with whatever screen reader I can 
find. Catch Ya All Later! de


.

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RE: Window-eyes is still great

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Me too, Chris.  Window-Eyes is my dailey product as well.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:54 AM
To: Kim Lingo; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes is still great

   The future of Window-eyes may be in somewhat doubt but as 
long as they're still selling it and as long as people are using it it's 
still alive, and it's what I use on a daily basis. lets stop being so 
negative.  The very moment I get official word from either VFO, or 
 someone from AI Squared, i'm going on the idea that Window-eyes 
is still alive and kicking.




On 12/22/2016 1:05 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:
>Hi everyone,
> I think general opinion is right here.  Let's all start coming up with 
> original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect 
> things. I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than 
> pressing control-r, but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity.
> Kim Lingo
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM
> To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts 
> WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> Amen to this.
>
> 
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
> via Talk  wrote:
>
>> And, my delete finger is getting tired.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
>> Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>>
>>   - Original Message -   From: Jim via Talk
>>   To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>>
>>   I agree!
>>
>>   There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO 
>> regarding
>>   this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. 
>> So I
>>   think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
>>   unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
>>   discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting 
>> and
>>   spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   
>> PLEASE
>>   folks!  Have A Great Day! de
>>
>>   .
>>
>>
>>   On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>>   > I agree.
>>   >
>>   > -Original Message-
>>   > From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>   > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>>   > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>>   > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>   > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>   >
>>   > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. 
>> it's the
>>   > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>>   > friends...
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>   >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
>>   >> selling it?  Pam.
>>   >>
>>   >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>   >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
>>   >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>   >>
>>   >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees 
>> leaving Ai
>>   >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
>> Window-Eyes.
>>   >>
>>   >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
>>   >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
>>   >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>   >>
>>   >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I 
>> sent
>>   >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What 
>> does
>>   >> this tell you?
>>   >>
>>   >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
>>   >>> Hi there FOLKS!
>>   >>>
>>   >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, 
>> as far
>>   >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or 
>> intermediate
>>   >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
>> about
>>   >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to 
>> for
>>   >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS 
>> about
>>   >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
>>   >>> APPRECIATE!. 
>>   >>>
>>   >>>
>>   >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
>>    Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a 

Re: Window-eyes is still great

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

  The future of Window-eyes may be in somewhat doubt but as 
long as they're still selling it and as long as people are using it it's 
still alive, and it's what I use on a daily basis. lets stop being so 
negative.  The very moment I get official word from either VFO, or 
someone from AI Squared, i'm going on the idea that Window-eyes 
is still alive and kicking.





On 12/22/2016 1:05 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:

   Hi everyone,
I think general opinion is right here.  Let's all start coming up with 
original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect 
things. I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than 
pressing control-r, but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity.

Kim Lingo


-Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts 
WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


Amen to this.



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
via Talk  wrote:


And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


  - Original Message -   From: Jim via Talk
  To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


  I agree!

  There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO 
regarding
  this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. 
So I

  think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
  unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
  discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting 
and
  spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   
PLEASE

  folks!  Have A Great Day! de

  .


  On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  > I agree.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
  > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
  > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >
  > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. 
it's the

  > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
  > friends...
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
  >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
  >> selling it?  Pam.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
  >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees 
leaving Ai

  >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
  >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
  >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I 
sent
  >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What 
does

  >> this tell you?
  >>
  >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi there FOLKS!
  >>>
  >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, 
as far
  >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or 
intermediate

  >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
  >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to 
for
  >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS 
about

  >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
  >>> APPRECIATE!. 
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
   Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a 
very
   good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a 
better job

   than Window Eyes.
  
   But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
   and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and 
greatest
   upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an 
Update,
   andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you 
spend

   an extra $200.
   Then
   they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
   trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
  
   And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit 

Re: re-windows eyes is dead

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

That's how I got my window eyes when I got it.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Chad Baker via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:07 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: re-windows eyes is dead

Hi i still use window eyes.
But i tried a demo of jaws too expensive for me.
I’m not rich and can’t afford it.
I like window eyes cause they had a lease to option.
The jaws company don’t offer that.
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Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

And with all that said, you still have to use whatever leverage you 
have.  VFO owes us nothing!

On 12/22/2016 6:34 AM, Tony C wrote:
> Any community that is devided such as the blind community is has very
> limited leverage on anything. Even united the blind community is a very
> small percentage of the disabled community.
>
> -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:19 AM
> To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Bryan Peterson'
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> Of course it would be nice to have an official response from VFO, but
> you're not going to get it by wining on this board.  You're going to
> have to find a way to exhibit some leverage, and I'm not sure that's
> possible.  The blindness community is somewhat fragmented, with a large
> part of it being partially sighted.
>
> On 12/21/2016 7:01 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
>> I agree with Bryan's comments.  Would also just like to add that it
>> isn't difficult for VFO to provide an up-to-date statement.
>>
>> Vaughan.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:24 p.m.
>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going
>> to lead to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good
>> program as someone who used it for ten years before switching to WE
>> I'm going to have to beg to differ, but that's another topic.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM
>> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> I agree!
>>
>> There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO
>> regarding this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order
>> an SMA. So I think that someone is simply trying to start and continue
>> totally unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back
>> to discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting
>> and
>> spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
>> folks!  Have A Great Day! de
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>>> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's
>>> the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>>> friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
 Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
 selling it?  Pam.

 -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
 To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

 And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
 Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
 Window-Eyes.

 -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
 To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

 I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
 support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
 this tell you?

 On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
> Hi there FOLKS!
>
> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
> about
> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS
> about Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
> APPRECIATE!. 
>
>
> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
>> than Window Eyes.
>>
>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
>> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and
>> greatest upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like
>> an Update, andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore
>> you spend an extra $200.
>> Then
>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an 

Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

   Hi everyone,
I think general opinion is right here.  Let's all start coming up with 
original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect things. 
I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than pressing control-r, 
but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity.

Kim Lingo


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Rogers via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts 
WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


Amen to this.



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www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
via Talk  wrote:


And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim via Talk

  To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


  I agree!

  There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding
  this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I
  think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally
  unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to
  discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
  spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
  folks!  Have A Great Day! de

  .


  On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  > I agree.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
  > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
  > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >
  > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's 
the

  > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
  > friends...
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
  >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
  >> selling it?  Pam.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
  >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
  >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
  >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
  >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
  >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
  >> this tell you?
  >>
  >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi there FOLKS!
  >>>
  >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
  >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
  >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
  >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
  >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS 
about

  >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
  >>> APPRECIATE!. 
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
   Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
   good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
   than Window Eyes.
  
   But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
   and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and 
greatest

   upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
   andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
   an extra $200.
   Then
   they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
   trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
  
   And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
   loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
   else in my system that caused the system lock up.
  
   I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
   and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
   Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could 
find

   her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old
girl.
  

Window Eyes is

[Don H via Talk]

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Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

Amen to this.



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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600
via Talk  wrote:

> And, my delete finger is getting tired.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
> Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jim via Talk 
>   To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
>   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
> 
> 
>   I agree!
> 
>   There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding 
>   this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I 
>   think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally 
>   unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to 
>   discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and 
>   spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE 
>   folks!  Have A Great Day! de
> 
>   .
> 
> 
>   On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>   > I agree.
>   >
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>   > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>   > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>   > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>   >
>   > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
>   > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>   > friends...
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>   >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
>   >> selling it?  Pam.
>   >>
>   >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>   >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
>   >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>   >>
>   >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
>   >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
> Window-Eyes.
>   >>
>   >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
>   >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
>   >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>   >>
>   >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
>   >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
>   >> this tell you?
>   >>
>   >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
>   >>> Hi there FOLKS!
>   >>>
>   >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
>   >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
>   >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
> about
>   >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
>   >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
>   >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
>   >>> APPRECIATE!. 
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
>    Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
>    good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
>    than Window Eyes.
>   
>    But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
>    and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
>    upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
>    andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
>    an extra $200.
>    Then
>    they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
>    trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
>   
>    And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
>    loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
>    else in my system that caused the system lock up.
>   
>    I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
>    and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
>    Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find
>    her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old
> girl.
>   
>    Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to
>    do with the desperation of many who are Blind.
>   Here is something to think about-
>    I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a
>    Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive,
>    for $250.
>  

RE: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!

[via Talk]

And, my delete finger is getting tired.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window
Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim via Talk 
  To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!


  I agree!

  There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding 
  this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I 
  think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally 
  unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to 
  discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and 
  spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE 
  folks!  Have A Great Day! de

  .


  On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  > I agree.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
  > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
  > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >
  > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the
  > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
  > friends...
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
  >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
  >> selling it?  Pam.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
  >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
  >> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling
Window-Eyes.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
  >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
  >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
  >>
  >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
  >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
  >> this tell you?
  >>
  >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi there FOLKS!
  >>>
  >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
  >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
  >>> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called
about
  >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
  >>> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
  >>> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
  >>> APPRECIATE!. 
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
   Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
   good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
   than Window Eyes.
  
   But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
   and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest
   upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update,
   andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend
   an extra $200.
   Then
   they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
   trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
  
   And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
   loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
   else in my system that caused the system lock up.
  
   I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
   and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
   Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find
   her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old
girl.
  
   Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to
   do with the desperation of many who are Blind.
  Here is something to think about-
   I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a
   Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive,
   for $250.
  
   We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests
   them and puts them up for sale.
   So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of
   JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure.
  
   When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as
   the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with 

Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Tony C via Talk]

Any community that is devided such as the blind community is has very 
limited leverage on anything. Even united the blind community is a very 
small percentage of the disabled community.


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:19 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Bryan Peterson'
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Of course it would be nice to have an official response from VFO, but
you're not going to get it by wining on this board.  You're going to
have to find a way to exhibit some leverage, and I'm not sure that's
possible.  The blindness community is somewhat fragmented, with a large
part of it being partially sighted.

On 12/21/2016 7:01 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
I agree with Bryan's comments.  Would also just like to add that it isn't 
difficult for VFO to provide an up-to-date statement.


Vaughan.




-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk

Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:24 p.m.
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going to 
lead to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good program as 
someone who used it for ten years before switching to WE I'm going to have 
to beg to differ, but that's another topic.


-Original Message-
From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I agree!

There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding 
this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I 
think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally 
unfounded rumors.  I really do wish this list would get back to discussing 
Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and

spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
folks!  Have A Great Day! de

.


On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

I agree.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's
the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
friends...




On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
selling it?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.

-Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
this tell you?

On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there FOLKS!

Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS
about Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
APPRECIATE!. 


On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:

Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
than Window Eyes.

But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and
greatest upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like
an Update, andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore
you spend an extra $200.
Then
they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.

And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
else in my system that caused the system lock up.

I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could
find her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old 
girl.


Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing 

Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Of course it would be nice to have an official response from VFO, but 
you're not going to get it by wining on this board.  You're going to 
have to find a way to exhibit some leverage, and I'm not sure that's 
possible.  The blindness community is somewhat fragmented, with a large 
part of it being partially sighted.

On 12/21/2016 7:01 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
> I agree with Bryan's comments.  Would also just like to add that it isn't 
> difficult for VFO to provide an up-to-date statement.
>
> Vaughan.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:24 p.m.
> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going to lead 
> to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good program as someone 
> who used it for ten years before switching to WE I'm going to have to beg to 
> differ, but that's another topic.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> I agree!
>
> There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding this 
> topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I think that 
> someone is simply trying to start and continue totally unfounded rumors.  I 
> really do wish this list would get back to discussing Window-Eyes and 
> Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
> spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
> folks!  Have A Great Day! de
>
> .
>
>
> On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> I agree.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's
>> the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>> friends...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
>>> selling it?  Pam.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
>>> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
>>> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
>>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
>>> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
>>> this tell you?
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
 Hi there FOLKS!

 Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
 as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
 future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
 obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
 the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS
 about Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
 APPRECIATE!. 


 On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
> than Window Eyes.
>
> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and
> greatest upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like
> an Update, andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore
> you spend an extra $200.
> Then
> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
>
> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something
> else in my system that caused the system lock up.
>
> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves
> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear
> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could
> find her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old 
> girl.
>
> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing 

Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Please don't start moderating the list (infinity).

On 12/21/2016 8:58 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
> Please: don't start moderating the list.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 2:43 p.m.
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> ys, For peat's sake. Please, let's get off the window eyes is dead trip. If 
> they are going to do away with it then that's what is going to happen. This 
> has been beat to death.  Get on with your day if you have one and stop 
> cluttering up the list with spectulation. Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:01 PM
> To: 'Bryan Peterson' ; 'Window-Eyes DiscussionList'
> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> I agree with Bryan's comments.  Would also just like to add that it isn't 
> difficult for VFO to provide an up-to-date statement.
>
> Vaughan.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:24 p.m.
> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going to lead 
> to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good program as someone 
> who used it for ten years before switching to WE I'm going to have to beg to 
> differ, but that's another topic.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> I agree!
>
> There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding this 
> topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I think that 
> someone is simply trying to start and continue totally unfounded rumors.  I 
> really do wish this list would get back to discussing Window-Eyes and 
> Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and
> spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it.   PLEASE
> folks!  Have A Great Day! de
>
> .
>
>
> On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> I agree.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's
>> the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my
>> friends...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still
>>> selling it?  Pam.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
>>> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
>>> Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
>>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>>
>>> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
>>> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
>>> this tell you?
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
 Hi there FOLKS!

 Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far
 as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
 future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
 obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for
 the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS
 about Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
 APPRECIATE!. 


 On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very
> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job
> than Window Eyes.
>
> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program,
> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and
> greatest upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like
> an Update, andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore
> you spend an extra $200.
> Then
> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has
> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
>
> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit