Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

At first I thought he meant window eyes, but then I read the message 
underneath where the person said he hoped narrator would be made better.  So 
that's what I thought was talked about when it was said that it was almost 
unusable.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:47 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Window Eyes is working great for me, if it is almost unusable for you, there 
has to be a problem with its installation or something like a virus on your 
computer.
- Original Message - 
 From: Tony C via Talk

 To: Kenneth Son ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes


 Hell, it's almost useless now.

 -Original Message- 
 From: Kenneth Son via Talk

 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:26 AM
 To: john_far...@btinternet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

 Hello list.

 I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good.

 Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it puts
 the other screen reader into the useless category.

 That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is for
 the Apple products.

 Probably that's how it should be any way.

 The possibility of Window Eyes being phased out just makes my heart sick.

 Having to change over to something else andlearn all those commands and
 other things just seems a little to much of a chalange at this age.

 Something is just a little funny about this whole thing.

 Kenneth Son.



 On 10/15/2016 06:46, John Farley via Talk wrote:
 > Hello list,
 >
 > I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facility on their web
 > site.
 >
 > It was interesting to find that in their list of products that they will
 > take note of Window-Eyes does not exist!
 > I had to use JAWS and then tell them I was talking about Window-Eyes in 
my

 > comments.
 >
 >
 >
 > Regards, John
 >
 > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
 > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
 >
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

 > Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
 > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:51 PM
 > To: darren harris; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 > Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
 >
 > No official word yet.  If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays
 > around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you expect
 > the same type of customer service and great products as you did when ai
 > squared was around. This will let them know you care about the product
 > and that you are a loyal user.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:
 >> Hi all,
 >>
 >> Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is wineyes going to
 >> be
 >> fazed out?
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: Talk
 >> 
[mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com]

 >> On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
 >> Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
 >> To: bj colt via Talk
 >> Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
 >>
 >> Hello John,
 >>
 >> I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
 >> speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
 >> not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
 >> other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
 >> Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
 >> wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
 >> Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
 >> people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
 >> technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
 >> think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
 >> We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
 >> Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
 >> would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
 >> pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are 
developing

 >> both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
 >> Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.
 >>
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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

We can certainly hope. I do, although I'm not optimistic. We are, after all, 
talking about a group of companies that includes Greedom Science Fiction. 
But like others I'll just use the office version of WE until we get an 
official answer and, should the worst case scenario come to pass, continue 
to use it as long as humanly possible. I just know I absolutely will not go 
back to JAWS, even if I have to resort to NVDA fulltime.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these things are
done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to talk to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least partially,
due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas the
company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one.  And, it is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher level.  Those
still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, but, may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the case,
ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO management
know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being delivered.
I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about.  Also, can they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, since, I
am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, because of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the proverbial
coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, the more
users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for Office, be
sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a user-base
that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at liberty to
speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, which
makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I would have hoped to hear at least something official by now,
although I do still hope that at least the free Office version of WE
will continue to remain available.

-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

   Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have
been told something by now.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Kenneth Son ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

So, like, you guys have pretty much already
decided that window-eyes is dead and 

window eyes on 1 gb of ram and 1 ghz processor

[Drew Clark via Talk]

Hi,

i used window eyeyes on 1 gb of ram and 1.86 ghz processor  and i need 
to restart it many times. that was on windows 7. and now, i use it with 
1.3 ghz processor and 4 gb of ram, running win10 64 1607, still, i have 
to restart it many time. does window eyes made for pc that have 2 gb of 
ram and 2 ghz processor? this is the one that it need to be improved 
compared to the other screen readers. or, anyone here successfully run 
window eyes on slow machine with out restart for a long time?


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Re: th all audio enthusiaths, what editor you use with window eyes?

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

I am using SoundForge Audio Studio 10 under Windows 10. I am not doing 
anything fancy with it, and am not using any scripts. I realize that scripts 
exist, but I would have to make a few changes to get them associated with 
the program, and I don't know how much improvement I would see.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Drew Clark via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:00 AM
To: Andre via Talk
Subject: th all audio enthusiaths, what editor you use with window eyes?

hi,
between goldave, adobe audition, cakeWalk sonar, sound forge and so on, 
whats work best with window eyes? and, witch one has its window eyes 
app/script? thanks.

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best antivirus with window eyes

[Drew Clark via Talk]

sorry if this is repeated but, what is the recommended antivirus that
is accessible with window eyes on windows 7?
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RE: Printing Envelopes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

The way I do it is to write the address in Word, highlight it and then hit
alt m for mail and e for envelopes and tab through to print. 

 

This usually works for me.

 

Alison

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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

I do believe the LTO program is gone now, it's been replaced by the free 
version for users of Microsoft office.




On 10/16/2016 2:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Lease to own?  I was under the impression that they didn't have that 
anymore.  I bought my window eyes that way, but I finished paying it 
off in 2010.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an 
acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these things 
are

done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to 
talk to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least 
partially,

due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas the
company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, 
especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one. And, 
it is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, 
themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher level.  
Those
still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, but, 
may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the 
case,

ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO 
management

know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being 
delivered.
I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about.  Also, can 
they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, 
since, I

am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, 
because of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the 
proverbial

coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that 
won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, 
the more
users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for 
Office, be

sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a user-base
that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, 
there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at 
liberty to
speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which 
says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, 
which

makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I would have hoped to hear at least something official by now,
although I do still hope that at least the free Office version of WE
will continue to remain available.

-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

   Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have
been told something by now.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Kenneth Son ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

So, like, you guys have pretty much already
decided that window-eyes is dead and gone, even before an official
announcement has even been made?  I love your 

Printing Envelopes

[Barbara via Talk]

Hi Everyone,

I have been struggling printing envelopes for a while.  I do not need to
perform this task often, maybe 15-20 times a year.

I have Windows 7, Office 2013, and Window-Eyes 9.5.3.

When I use the mail tab inWord, it is hard to get the envelopes dialogue to
appear.  Once it does appear, the mailing address field does not work right.
I can paste an address, but cannot review it.  I had called AI Squared in
the past on this and they said it was an issue with Office, they could not
fix.  Sometimes I get it to work and other times I do not.

Here is my question,  is there a free or very inexpensive program which will
allow me to print envelopes?  I want to be able to print different size
envelopes.  My Canon printer has an envelope slot and can accommodate
different size envelopes.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Barbara

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Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

[David Crowell via Talk]

Hi, 

I am using the most current version of Window Eyes and Windows 10
Anniversary edition on a Lenovo desktop.  

With my computer the CD rom does not start automatically when you put in a
CD and close the door.  

What I am wondering is if there is a keyboard command to make the CD rom
start after putting in a CD and closing the door?  

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  

 

 
Dave

 

"Life is too short for drama & petty things, So kiss slowly, laugh insanely,
love truly and forgive quickly." 

 
William Arthur 

 

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Re: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

[bj colt via Talk]

Hi David,

I don't use windows 10 so just guessing. In windows 7 when I put in a cd/dvd 
A pop up message comes up. It gives me various options. For example, open 
folder to view files. play cd. play dvd. There are options in windows to 
select which option is checked by default. Where it is on windows 10 I 
haven't a clue. If you have a search box like windows 7, you might find 
information there. Often the pop up doesn't speak and we don't know it's 
there. Shift tab around to see if there is something there when you put in a 
cd or dvd.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: David Crowell via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:10 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

Hi,

I am using the most current version of Window Eyes and Windows 10
Anniversary edition on a Lenovo desktop.

With my computer the CD rom does not start automatically when you put in a
CD and close the door.

What I am wondering is if there is a keyboard command to make the CD rom
start after putting in a CD and closing the door?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.




Dave



"Life is too short for drama & petty things, So kiss slowly, laugh insanely,
love truly and forgive quickly."


William Arthur



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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Lease to own?  I was under the impression that they didn't have that 
anymore.  I bought my window eyes that way, but I finished paying it off in 
2010.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these things are
done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to talk to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least partially,
due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas the
company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one.  And, it is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher level.  Those
still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, but, may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the case,
ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO management
know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being delivered.
I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about.  Also, can they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, since, I
am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, because of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the proverbial
coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, the more
users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for Office, be
sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a user-base
that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at liberty to
speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, which
makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I would have hoped to hear at least something official by now,
although I do still hope that at least the free Office version of WE
will continue to remain available.

-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

   Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have
been told something by now.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Kenneth Son ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

So, like, you guys have pretty much already
decided that window-eyes is dead and gone, even before an official
announcement has even been made?  I love your optomism.

 with attitudes like

 this, no wonder people are convinced it's going away. oh, but yeah,
just sit back, and don't do anything.   Great attitudes y'all.


10:31 AM, Kenneth Son via Talk 

Re: window eyes on 1 gb of ram and 1 ghz processor

[David via Talk]

Win-Eyes has for long been recommended nothing under 2GB of RAM. I have 
been using Win7 Home Edition on a netbook with 1.3GHZ and 2GB RAM, and 
it is doable, though not exactly the speed you want for everyday usage. 
Yet changing the Hard Disk with an SSD, might be one way to speed up things.


Still, a CPU much under 1.6GHZ, is not adviceable in my opinion - at 
least if this is meant to be your primary workstation. And in general, 
these days, the more RAM, the better.



David

On 10/16/2016 12:16 PM, Drew Clark via Talk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i used window eyeyes on 1 gb of ram and 1.86 ghz processor  and i need 
> to restart it many times. that was on windows 7. and now, i use it 
> with 1.3 ghz processor and 4 gb of ram, running win10 64 1607, still, 
> i have to restart it many time. does window eyes made for pc that have 
> 2 gb of ram and 2 ghz processor? this is the one that it need to be 
> improved compared to the other screen readers. or, anyone here 
> successfully run window eyes on slow machine with out restart for a 
> long time?
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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Jim via Talk]

Hi There!
I talked to someone at AI-Squared Friday, and at that time I was told 
that the LTO purchase plan was still in affect.  Not certain of where 
you got your info or when..?  Would be interested in knowing.   Just 
some info!  Catch Ya Later! de

.
On 16-Oct-16 14:43, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I do believe the LTO program is gone now, it's been replaced by the 
free version for users of Microsoft office.




On 10/16/2016 2:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Lease to own?  I was under the impression that they didn't have that 
anymore.  I bought my window eyes that way, but I finished paying it 
off in 2010.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an 
acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these 
things are

done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how 
the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to 
talk to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least 
partially,
due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas 
the

company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, 
especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one. And, 
it is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, 
themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher 
level.  Those
still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, 
but, may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the 
case,

ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO 
management

know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being 
delivered.
I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about. Also, can 
they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, 
since, I

am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, 
because of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the 
proverbial

coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that 
won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, 
the more
users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for 
Office, be
sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a 
user-base

that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, 
there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at 
liberty to
speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which 
says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, 
which

makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I would have hoped to hear at least something official by now,
although I do still hope that at least the free Office version of WE
will continue to remain available.

-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

   Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have
been told something by now.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: 

Re: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

[net bat via Talk]

its in the control panel in autoplay.

-Original Message- 
From: bj colt via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:23 AM
To: David Crowell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

Hi David,

I don't use windows 10 so just guessing. In windows 7 when I put in a cd/dvd
A pop up message comes up. It gives me various options. For example, open
folder to view files. play cd. play dvd. There are options in windows to
select which option is checked by default. Where it is on windows 10 I
haven't a clue. If you have a search box like windows 7, you might find
information there. Often the pop up doesn't speak and we don't know it's
there. Shift tab around to see if there is something there when you put in a
cd or dvd.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: David Crowell via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:10 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

Hi,

I am using the most current version of Window Eyes and Windows 10
Anniversary edition on a Lenovo desktop.

With my computer the CD rom does not start automatically when you put in a
CD and close the door.

What I am wondering is if there is a keyboard command to make the CD rom
start after putting in a CD and closing the door?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.




Dave



"Life is too short for drama & petty things, So kiss slowly, laugh insanely,
love truly and forgive quickly."


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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Well, it has not been mentioned as an option for years, now.  When a new 
version comes out, it is usually mentioned the ways you can obtain it, and 
the only ways I have seen mentioned are the free version for office, and 
other than that, how much it costs if you have to pay for it.  I have not 
seen it on the site, either.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:51 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes


Hi There!
I talked to someone at AI-Squared Friday, and at that time I was told
that the LTO purchase plan was still in affect.  Not certain of where
you got your info or when..?  Would be interested in knowing.   Just
some info!  Catch Ya Later! de
.
On 16-Oct-16 14:43, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I do believe the LTO program is gone now, it's been replaced by the free 
version for users of Microsoft office.




On 10/16/2016 2:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Lease to own?  I was under the impression that they didn't have that 
anymore.  I bought my window eyes that way, but I finished paying it off 
in 2010.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an 
acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these things 
are

done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to talk 
to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least 
partially,

due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas the
company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, 
especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one. And, it 
is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, 
themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher level. 
Those
still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, but, 
may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the 
case,

ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO 
management

know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being 
delivered.

I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about. Also, can they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, since, 
I

am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, because 
of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the 
proverbial

coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that 
won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, the 
more
users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for Office, 
be

sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a user-base
that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, 
there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at liberty 
to
speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which 
says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, 
which

makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I 

Re: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please

[Martha via Talk]

Hi, Leslie.

Congratulations on the anniversary. I hope that you and Gerry have
another 8 years or so together.

Martha

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 07:50:34 -0500
Jo Taliaferro via Talk  wrote:

 Hi, how do I read PDF files that I receive as attachments in my emails? I'm 
using windows 10 and the latest version of window eyes. I have attempted to use 
acrobat or Adobe Acrobat DC and I don't know how to use the thing. Maybe my 
brain is mush do I really have to use Microsoft edge?
 
 Jo Taliaferro 
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Re: Talk Digest, Vol 613, Issue 1

[Andrew Zeman via Talk]

oh

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Fw: Re: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please

[Martha via Talk]

Sorry - wrong recipient. Ignore it.  Do I blame BECKY! or the glass of
red wine?


Forwarded by Martha 
--- Original Message ---
 From:Martha via Talk 
 To:  Jo Taliaferro ,
  Window-Eyes Discussion List 
 Date:Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:08:38 -0500
 Subject: Re: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please


Hi, Leslie.

Congratulations on the anniversary. I hope that you and Gerry have
another 8 years or so together.

Martha

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 07:50:34 -0500
Jo Taliaferro via Talk  wrote:

 Hi, how do I read PDF files that I receive as attachments in my emails? I'm 
using windows 10 and the latest version of window eyes. I have attempted to use 
acrobat or Adobe Acrobat DC and I don't know how to use the thing. Maybe my 
brain is mush do I really have to use Microsoft edge?
 
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RE: Firefox, Flash, and WE

[Keith Wessel via Talk]

Disabling is sufficient, but if you really want to get rid of Flash in
Firefox, you have to completely uninstall it. You can do this from
add/remove programs in Windows. Adobe also makes an installer available;
information on downloading the uninstaller can be found here:

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html

Keith


-Original Message-
From: Andre [mailto:stepse...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:15 PM
To: 'Keith Wessel' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Firefox, Flash, and WE

How do you uninstall the shockwave addon? I figured out how to disable it,
but wasn't sure how to uninstall it. I'm using ff 49.0.1 I think.



Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Keith Wessel via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:49 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Firefox, Flash, and WE

Thanks very much, Don. Easy fix, and working way better.

One follow-up question: I noticed that, by default, the option in Firefox
Enhanced to include Flash content in browse mode was turned off. I know, in
the past, including this content in browse mode used to cause problems. Is
there any reason I should leave that turned off now? Have those problems
been addressed (or just gone away with Firefox's built-in Flash support)?
Seems like turning it on would give me a richer experience in browse mode if
it doesn't break things.

Thanks,
Keith


-Original Message-
From: Don Smith [mailto:dsmith1...@cogeco.ca] 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:42 PM
To: 'Keith Wessel' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Firefox, Flash, and WE

I had the same problem and I was told that fire fox has it's own flash now
and you need  to unstall schock wave as ff now does not need it.  Also
update the new ff
Don



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Re: th all audio enthusiaths, what editor you use with window eyes?

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Drew,

Below is a link to the App central page where you can download the app I 
wrote for Sound Forge Pro 11. It gives you control of the main data 
window, i.e. hot keys to speak file length, current position, selection 
points and length, and read and reset the peak meters. Up/Down will 
speak the zoom ratio, S, which toggles selections speaks the status, and 
process completion notifications are voiced.


There is also real-time previewing while navigating when the file isn't 
playing. But this goes against the grain so to speak. So please read the 
help file to see what I'm talking about. Open the Window-Eyes control 
panel, Alt-A Apps, S Sound Forge Pro 11, Help.


I've also scripted several of the processor windows so that everything 
will talk when you tab around and change values. These include the 
parametric and paragraphic equalizers, the hammerfall compressor and 
limiter, normalizer. noise gate. noise reduction. audio restoration, 
mix/replace, click and crackle removal, pitch shift, time stretch, and 
volume.


https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1436

Hth,
Tom


On 10/16/2016 1:00 AM, Drew Clark via Talk wrote:

hi,
between goldave, adobe audition, cakeWalk sonar, sound forge and so on, whats 
work best with window eyes? and, witch one has its window eyes app/script? 
thanks.
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Re: Talk Digest, Vol 613, Issue 1

[Drew Clark via Talk]

everybody will ignore but thought i wanna try. what is this?



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oh

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Re: Talk Digest, Vol 613, Issue 1

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Who knows. Probably someone with a virus. I reported it to GW yesterday 
after getting the twenty-seventh one. So they'll probably remove the user.


Tom


On 10/16/2016 9:12 PM, Drew Clark via Talk wrote:

everybody will ignore but thought i wanna try. what is this?



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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

Yup it is. I bought my copy on the LTO plan from 2007 to 2009 and haven't 
looked back.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:43 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

I do believe the LTO program is gone now, it's been replaced by the free
version for users of Microsoft office.



On 10/16/2016 2:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Lease to own?  I was under the impression that they didn't have that 
anymore.  I bought my window eyes that way, but I finished paying it off 
in 2010.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Hi:

I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an acquisition,
there are things that take time to sort out.  Many times, these things are
done just to get the customer base of the company that was a competitor.

One of my friends who was in a company that was acquired, told me how the
employees of the acquiring company were under strict orders not to talk to
employees of the company they were acquiring.  This was, at least 
partially,

due to the fact that the acquiring company was not unionized, whereas the
company being acquired had been unionized.

Now, we can tell some communication is going on, but, at what level, and
with whom, we do not know.

At any rate, these things are usually not pleasant to go through, 
especially
when you are part of the company being acquired by a larger one. And, it 
is
possible that any AI Squared employees monitoring this list may, 
themselves,
not be totally aware of what is being talked about at a higher level. 
Those

still involved with Window-Eyes may be just as worried as anyone, but, may
not be able to talk about what they know, or suspect.  If this is the 
case,

ranthing about the unfairness of it all on this list may only be seen by
folks just as worried as you are, maybe more.

Like others, I feel the best thing is to try our best to let VFO 
management

know how we feel.

Also, just remember, Window-Eyes has not gone away, yet.  You can still
download the WE For Office version, and, updates are still being 
delivered.

I suspect there are Lease-To-Own customers to think about.  Also, can they
just pull the product without giving advanced notice to MicroSoft, since, 
I

am sure, some kind of contract had to be entered into with MicroSoft?

There are so many things we just do not know.

And, think about this:  Any decline in the Window-Eyes user-base, because 
of
negative talk will probably end up putting the final nail in the 
proverbial

coffin.

So, spread the word.  There's still a great alternative for JFW that won't
break the bank.  While the WE for Office option is still out there, the 
more

users, the better.  And, if you have downloaded Window-Eyes for Office, be
sure to register your product.  That will be more evidence of a user-base
that is still growing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, there
may be legalities.  The AI squared staff are most likely, not at liberty 
to

speak about anything official since a. they may have a contract which says
they can't speak about it, or b. they don't know anything themselves, 
which

makes this whole conversation null and void.
I know people want answers now, it'd be amazing news if we all got our
answer today. but, we aren't going to, so sit back, relax and enjoy
Window-eyes for as long as is humanly possible.




On 10/15/2016 5:09 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out?  it's not
even 6 months.
- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk"

To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad"
; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes



True. I would have hoped to hear at least something official by now,
although I do still hope that at least the free Office version of WE
will continue to remain available.

-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

   Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have
been told something by now.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 

RE: Looking for some kind of tutorial for Facebook and window-eyes.

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

It's much easier using

m.facebook.com

The regular site is still reasonably clunky.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: songr

[Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk]

Hi,

For those who are trying to install song-r, why do not try to download the 
song-r portable edition, the portable edition works the same as the installed 
bersion, and it does not gave me any trouble.

Thanks,







Michael Micallef
Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification 
and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment

Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016 01:48
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: songr

Sorry to hear you're having such problems, Tom. I don't know what to 
say. I've been installing it on systems since XP, recommending it to 
others, and I've never heard of anyone having a problem.

Hope you can get it straightened out.

Regards,
Tom



On 10/14/2016 7:18 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
> Well, I tried disabling my antivirus protection and songr didn’t install any 
> differently. The desktop shortcut still doesn’t worik.
> the program appeared to load briefly and then stop. I tried to install it 
> over itself but got an error message. If these jokers hope to make money in 
> the future, they had better come up with a better product than this. I 
> actually E-mailed them. We’ll see if they write back. I really hope I’m 
> missing something. I am using Windos 7 64-bit Pro with the latest version of 
> Window-Eyes. I am not having problems with other applications, and AVG didn’t 
> detect any problems yesterday evening.
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RE: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

[Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk]

Dear Jeremy,

>From the bottom of my heart Wish you Good Luck in your new career.

Meanwhile, excuse me if the following question is not related to window-eyes, 
but can someone enlight me how I can use NVDA with sa DECtalk Speech 
synthesizer. When WE totally dead, I wish to switch to NVDA completely, but one 
major problem that I have is that my ears are more used to hear the Dectalk 
Speech. Please write me privately so to do not clutter the list with unwanted 
messages.

Thanks and Kind Regards,





Michael Micallef
Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification 
and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment

Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016 11:14
To: 'Jeremy Curry'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

Wow, how many more of our friendly helpers are left in the auction block?

Marc Solomon, gone!  Dan Weirich, retired; Jeremy Curry, gone!  Looks like
Aaron Smith might be next?

And when the battle is over, where's the new crown for Window-Eyes?  Guess
one won't be found in Fort Wayne or Jerusalem, but in Saint Petersburg!

Jeremy, thanks for your invaluable services!  I hope that somehow, those of
us whom you have helped through the ages will be able to stay in touch.
Fondest regards to your family, and the Good Lord bless and keep you as you
go.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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