[Talk-hr] Fwd: Re: Nazivi osm-hr servera
Ups, poslao sam samo Silverspaceu. Evo opet: Našao sam dosta o zmajevima ovdje: http://www.seljacionline-forum.com/showthread.php?85875-Hrvatske-legende-bajke-pri%E8e I kaže da su zmaja prije zvali Šarkanj, i ima nekih legendi o njemu. Treba naći jel on dostojan imena servera, ja sad nemam vremena. Janko -- Proslijeđena poruka -- Šalje: Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Datum: 2. 12. 2014. 14:30 Predmet: Re: [Talk-hr] Nazivi osm-hr servera Prima: SilverSpace mirozag...@ubuntu-hr.org Kopija: Našao sam dosta o zmajevima ovdje: http://www.seljacionline-forum.com/showthread.php?85875-Hrvatske-legende-bajke-pri%E8e I kaže da su zmaja prije zvali Šarkanj, i ima nekih legendi o njemu. Treba naći jel on dostojan imena servera, ja sad nemam vremena. Janko Dana 1. 12. 2014. 18:57 osoba SilverSpace mirozag...@ubuntu-hr.org napisala je: Kad već nemamo zmajeve ja predlažem hr. kraljeve http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrvatski_vladari#Hrvatska_za_narodnih_kraljeva_.28925._.E2.80.93_1102..29 Dana 1. prosinca 2014. u 18:49 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la: U prosloj poruci napisao sam s cim sad raspolazemo(1) te sam predlozio da zajednicki smislimo nazive servera kao sto OSM ima zmajeve. Napisite ovdje svoje ideje za nazive servera :) (1) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-hr/2014- December/002240.html ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr -- Svega što vrijedi Bog je stvorio malo, kako zlata tako i Hrvata. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Nazivi osm-hr servera
Nakon nekog razmišljanja mogu dati svoj prijedlog. Imena po nebeskim tjelima u sunčevom sustavu, ali ne po planetima, nego po mesecima oko njih: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_satellite http://www.windows2universe.org/our_solar_system/moons_table.html Šta mislite o tome? ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Goeiemorgen, We hebben weer een nieuwe mapper-van-de-maand: http://www.osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-guy-vanvuchelen Alle krediet aan Marc, Marc Jorieke... Well done! Zoals vorige keer, nominaties voor volgende mappers-van-de-maand zijn altijd welkom! Ook: echt niemand die meer van drupal kent dan ik? Om te helpen met de content-vertalingen? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
The English version can be found on my OSM diary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/escada/diary/28162 In case you want to share with an international public. m 2014-12-02 9:37 GMT+01:00 Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com: Goeiemorgen, We hebben weer een nieuwe mapper-van-de-maand: http://www.osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-guy-vanvuchelen Alle krediet aan Marc, Marc Jorieke... Well done! Zoals vorige keer, nominaties voor volgende mappers-van-de-maand zijn altijd welkom! Ook: echt niemand die meer van drupal kent dan ik? Om te helpen met de content-vertalingen? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Mooi werk. @Guy: We zijn wel tot de conclusie gekomen dat er in de data van AGIV ook wel veel fouten zitten. Dus gaat er niets boven manueel gemapte adressen. Momenteel zal de import zo zijn dat, als er manueel gemapte adressen zijn, en die komen overeen met de AGIV data, dan is zijn die adressen compleet, en moet er niemand nog naar kijken. En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Bij mij komt de individuele mapper op de eerste plaats, en met de tools wil ik enkel het mappen van adressen eenvoudiger maken, zonder daarbij aan te zetten tot massa-importeringen of het mappen van plaatsen die je niet kent. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 09:37 schreef Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com : Goeiemorgen, We hebben weer een nieuwe mapper-van-de-maand: http://www.osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-guy-vanvuchelen Alle krediet aan Marc, Marc Jorieke... Well done! Zoals vorige keer, nominaties voor volgende mappers-van-de-maand zijn altijd welkom! Ook: echt niemand die meer van drupal kent dan ik? Om te helpen met de content-vertalingen? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Bedankt Sander voor je reactie. Toch een vraagje. Is er een (relatief) eenvoudige manier om de ‘niet complete’ adressen in de buurt te vinden? Grt, Guy Vanvuchelen Van: Sander Deryckere [mailto:sander...@gmail.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2014 13:37 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand Mooi werk. @Guy: We zijn wel tot de conclusie gekomen dat er in de data van AGIV ook wel veel fouten zitten. Dus gaat er niets boven manueel gemapte adressen. Momenteel zal de import zo zijn dat, als er manueel gemapte adressen zijn, en die komen overeen met de AGIV data, dan is zijn die adressen compleet, en moet er niemand nog naar kijken. En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Bij mij komt de individuele mapper op de eerste plaats, en met de tools wil ik enkel het mappen van adressen eenvoudiger maken, zonder daarbij aan te zetten tot massa-importeringen of het mappen van plaatsen die je niet kent. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 09:37 schreef Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com: Goeiemorgen, We hebben weer een nieuwe mapper-van-de-maand: http://www.osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-guy-vanvuchelen Alle krediet aan Marc, Marc Jorieke... Well done! Zoals vorige keer, nominaties voor volgende mappers-van-de-maand zijn altijd welkom! Ook: echt niemand die meer van drupal kent dan ik? Om te helpen met de content-vertalingen? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
On 02-12-14 12:37, Sander Deryckere wrote: En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Dat lees ik met het grootste genoegen! Want ik ben op het gemakske bezig met al de huisnummers in mijn buurt te mappen, en begon me af te vragen of dat nog wel een zinvolle oefening is met al die massa-import-initiatieven. Wel, dus, blijkbaar. KA ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Zie de tool waaraan we aan het werken zijn/waren: http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map Vul gewoon je postcode in (bovenaan de pagina), klik op update, en bekijk op het kaartje welke straten volledig zijn (helder groen bolletje), en welke nog niet (geel-groen tot rood). Als je al manueel volledige straten gemapt hebt, dan zullen die normaal al een groen bolletje krijgen (tenzij er een fout in de OSM of CRAB data zit, zoals een verschil in de spelling van de straatnaam). Om de data zelf te bekijken klik je op een bolletje, en dan zie je hoeveel adressen er tekort zijn (missing). Als je op dat nummer klikt, en een recente JOSM versie is aan het draaien, dan zullen die individuele nummers in JOSM geladen worden, op de plaats wat volgens AGIV de best gekende positie is. De adressen worden herkend als er addr:street en addr:housenumber tags op staan, en als de postal_code grens compleet en gesloten is. Indien er dus geen enkel adres herkend wordt, is het waarschijnlijk een kwestie van gewoon doe postal_code grens te corrigeren. Ik heb geprobeert om zo veel mogelijk te documenteren: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data (zie Gebruik van de import website). Als je vragen hebt, of fouten/ontbrekende stukken ontdekt in de documentatie, dan mag je die gerust aanpassen. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 14:39 schreef Karel Adams fa348...@skynet.be: On 02-12-14 12:37, Sander Deryckere wrote: En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Dat lees ik met het grootste genoegen! Want ik ben op het gemakske bezig met al de huisnummers in mijn buurt te mappen, en begon me af te vragen of dat nog wel een zinvolle oefening is met al die massa-import-initiatieven. Wel, dus, blijkbaar. KA ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Hallo Sander, Bedankt met de uitleg. Ik zou er graag mee aan de slag gaan, het weer is me immers te slecht om te gaan wandelen. Toch stoot ik nog op een paar vragen. Voor postnummer 3300 zie ik een rood bolletje op Vlierstraat. Na een klik zie ik: Total: 4 Missing: 2 Missing overlapping: 2 Wrong: 2 Voor de Iepenstraat staat een groen bolletje met: Total 11 Missing 1 Missing overlapping: 1 Wrong: 1 Waarop slaat Total, Missing, Missing overlapping, Wrong, op OSM of op AGIV? Als ik op een nummer (cijfer achter missing???) klik gebeurt er niets ook als ik JOSM geopend. Grt, Guy Vanvuchelen Van: Sander Deryckere [mailto:sander...@gmail.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2014 15:02 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand Zie de tool waaraan we aan het werken zijn/waren: http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840 http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map Vul gewoon je postcode in (bovenaan de pagina), klik op update, en bekijk op het kaartje welke straten volledig zijn (helder groen bolletje), en welke nog niet (geel-groen tot rood). Als je al manueel volledige straten gemapt hebt, dan zullen die normaal al een groen bolletje krijgen (tenzij er een fout in de OSM of CRAB data zit, zoals een verschil in de spelling van de straatnaam). Om de data zelf te bekijken klik je op een bolletje, en dan zie je hoeveel adressen er tekort zijn (missing). Als je op dat nummer klikt, en een recente JOSM versie is aan het draaien, dan zullen die individuele nummers in JOSM geladen worden, op de plaats wat volgens AGIV de best gekende positie is. De adressen worden herkend als er addr:street en addr:housenumber tags op staan, en als de postal_code grens compleet en gesloten is. Indien er dus geen enkel adres herkend wordt, is het waarschijnlijk een kwestie van gewoon doe postal_code grens te corrigeren. Ik heb geprobeert om zo veel mogelijk te documenteren: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data (zie Gebruik van de import website). Als je vragen hebt, of fouten/ontbrekende stukken ontdekt in de documentatie, dan mag je die gerust aanpassen. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 14:39 schreef Karel Adams fa348...@skynet.be: On 02-12-14 12:37, Sander Deryckere wrote: En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Dat lees ik met het grootste genoegen! Want ik ben op het gemakske bezig met al de huisnummers in mijn buurt te mappen, en begon me af te vragen of dat nog wel een zinvolle oefening is met al die massa-import-initiatieven. Wel, dus, blijkbaar. KA ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Missing zijn adressen die in CRAB zitten, maar niet in OSM (dit kan ook een fout in CRAB zijn). Missing_overlapping zijn adressen zoals de vorige, maar waarvoor AGIV verschillende adressen op dezelfde plaats zet. Dit kan omdat een huis twee nummers heeft, of omdat AGIV gewoon nog geen goede informatie heeft over die adressen. Wrong zijn adressen die in OSM zitten en niet in CRAB (of waarvoor er toch geen match gevonden is). Aangezien het CRAB volledig hoort te zijn, zit er dus ergens wel een fout. Voor de Vlierstraat zie ik dat dit nog een redelijk recente straat is, dus is het ook meer waarschijnlijk dat het CRAB daar nog onvolledige data over heeft (je moet wat tijd geven aan de gemeentebesturen om die data te updaten). De missing zijn nummers 3 en 5, omdat die in OSM geen addr:street tag hebben (de tools herkennen alleen adressen met een addr:street tag). Dit kan je eenvoudig oplossen door een addr:street tag toe te voegen. Nummer 7 is geen missing adres, omdat dat adres gewoon niet in het CRAB zit. Ofwel behoort dat huis tot de andere straat, ofwel moet je nog wat geduld hebben voor het in het CRAB komt. De wrong nummers zijn 2 en 4. Ik zie dat het twee appartementen zijn. Van die appartementen zijn de huisnummers 2 en 4, maar daar heb jij de appartements- of busnummers gezet. Je zou de addr:flats tag moeten gebruiken om die bus- of appartementsnummers te taggen ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:flats). Dus gewoon addr:housenumber=4 en addr:flats=4/1;4/2;4/3;4/4;4/5;4/6;4/7;4/8 voor Vlierstraat 4. De missing_overlapping nummers zijn 2 en 4, die zijn dus zoals boven vermeld niet herkend onder de huidige vorm. Maar daarnaast heeft het CRAB ook slechte informatie over die gebouwen, en worden de twee nummers op dezelfde positie gezet (in het midden van de straat). Korte oplossing: voeg addr:street toe aan nummers 3 en 5 (eventueel aan nummer 7, dat is een twijfelgeval), hernoem addr:housenumber van nummers 2 en 4 naar addr:flats, en voeg addr:housenumber toe. Dat zou alle problemen (uitgezonderd met die 7) moeten oplossen. Voor de Iepenstraat is het niet volledig groen (het is een tintje geler dan echt groen). Deze straten zijn volledig genoeg om het correcte adres snel te vinden, maar er zitten nog enkele foutjes in. Als je echt alle fouten wil zien, dan kijk je best in de data-sectie (klik op het pijltje er naast om die te tonen). Ten eerste is nummer 1 opnieuw een appartement, en moet dat getagd worden zoals hier boven gezegd (dit telt weer voor zowel het wrong als het missing_overlapping nummer). Daarnaast moet er volgens het CRAB ook nog een nummer 5 bestaan, al is het niet echt duidelijk waar dat is (de positie staat tussen 2 huizen). Hopelijk helpt deze info. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 16:22 schreef Guy Vanvuchelen guy.vanvuche...@gmail.com : Hallo Sander, Bedankt met de uitleg. Ik zou er graag mee aan de slag gaan, het weer is me immers te slecht om te gaan wandelen. Toch stoot ik nog op een paar vragen. Voor postnummer 3300 zie ik een rood bolletje op Vlierstraat. Na een klik zie ik: Total: 4 Missing: 2 Missing overlapping: 2 Wrong: 2 Voor de Iepenstraat staat een groen bolletje met: Total 11 Missing 1 Missing overlapping: 1 Wrong: 1 Waarop slaat Total, Missing, Missing overlapping, Wrong, op OSM of op AGIV? Als ik op een nummer (cijfer achter missing???) klik gebeurt er niets ook als ik JOSM geopend. Grt, Guy Vanvuchelen *Van:* Sander Deryckere [mailto:sander...@gmail.com] *Verzonden:* dinsdag 2 december 2014 15:02 *Aan:* OpenStreetMap Belgium *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand Zie de tool waaraan we aan het werken zijn/waren: http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map Vul gewoon je postcode in (bovenaan de pagina), klik op update, en bekijk op het kaartje welke straten volledig zijn (helder groen bolletje), en welke nog niet (geel-groen tot rood). Als je al manueel volledige straten gemapt hebt, dan zullen die normaal al een groen bolletje krijgen (tenzij er een fout in de OSM of CRAB data zit, zoals een verschil in de spelling van de straatnaam). Om de data zelf te bekijken klik je op een bolletje, en dan zie je hoeveel adressen er tekort zijn (missing). Als je op dat nummer klikt, en een recente JOSM versie is aan het draaien, dan zullen die individuele nummers in JOSM geladen worden, op de plaats wat volgens AGIV de best gekende positie is. De adressen worden herkend als er addr:street en addr:housenumber tags op staan, en als de postal_code grens compleet en gesloten is. Indien er dus geen enkel adres herkend wordt, is het waarschijnlijk een kwestie van gewoon doe postal_code grens te corrigeren. Ik heb geprobeert om zo veel mogelijk te documenteren: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data (zie Gebruik van de import website). Als je vragen hebt, of fouten/ontbrekende stukken
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Bedankt Sander voor al je uitlieg. Ook de links werken nu. De afstandsbediening was niet geactiveerd. Dat komt ervan als je de instructies niet tot het einde leest. Nu ga ik aan de slag. Groeten Guy Vanvuchelen Van: Sander Deryckere [mailto:sander...@gmail.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2014 17:17 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand Oh, het belangrijkste nog vergeten. Dat die links niet werken. Bij mij werken ze nog altijd, dus is er ergens een probleem aan jouw kant. Kan je me wat info geven? * Welke browser gebruik je? (ook de versie er van). De site is enkel getest op Chrome en Firefox * Welke JOSM versie heb je? * Is je afstandsbediening correct geïnstalleerd? (zie https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data/Setting_up_JOSM#Afstandsbediening) Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 17:12 schreef Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: Missing zijn adressen die in CRAB zitten, maar niet in OSM (dit kan ook een fout in CRAB zijn). Missing_overlapping zijn adressen zoals de vorige, maar waarvoor AGIV verschillende adressen op dezelfde plaats zet. Dit kan omdat een huis twee nummers heeft, of omdat AGIV gewoon nog geen goede informatie heeft over die adressen. Wrong zijn adressen die in OSM zitten en niet in CRAB (of waarvoor er toch geen match gevonden is). Aangezien het CRAB volledig hoort te zijn, zit er dus ergens wel een fout. Voor de Vlierstraat zie ik dat dit nog een redelijk recente straat is, dus is het ook meer waarschijnlijk dat het CRAB daar nog onvolledige data over heeft (je moet wat tijd geven aan de gemeentebesturen om die data te updaten). De missing zijn nummers 3 en 5, omdat die in OSM geen addr:street tag hebben (de tools herkennen alleen adressen met een addr:street tag). Dit kan je eenvoudig oplossen door een addr:street tag toe te voegen. Nummer 7 is geen missing adres, omdat dat adres gewoon niet in het CRAB zit. Ofwel behoort dat huis tot de andere straat, ofwel moet je nog wat geduld hebben voor het in het CRAB komt. De wrong nummers zijn 2 en 4. Ik zie dat het twee appartementen zijn. Van die appartementen zijn de huisnummers 2 en 4, maar daar heb jij de appartements- of busnummers gezet. Je zou de addr:flats tag moeten gebruiken om die bus- of appartementsnummers te taggen (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:flats). Dus gewoon addr:housenumber=4 en addr:flats=4/1;4/2;4/3;4/4;4/5;4/6;4/7;4/8 voor Vlierstraat 4. De missing_overlapping nummers zijn 2 en 4, die zijn dus zoals boven vermeld niet herkend onder de huidige vorm. Maar daarnaast heeft het CRAB ook slechte informatie over die gebouwen, en worden de twee nummers op dezelfde positie gezet (in het midden van de straat). Korte oplossing: voeg addr:street toe aan nummers 3 en 5 (eventueel aan nummer 7, dat is een twijfelgeval), hernoem addr:housenumber van nummers 2 en 4 naar addr:flats, en voeg addr:housenumber toe. Dat zou alle problemen (uitgezonderd met die 7) moeten oplossen. Voor de Iepenstraat is het niet volledig groen (het is een tintje geler dan echt groen). Deze straten zijn volledig genoeg om het correcte adres snel te vinden, maar er zitten nog enkele foutjes in. Als je echt alle fouten wil zien, dan kijk je best in de data-sectie (klik op het pijltje er naast om die te tonen). Ten eerste is nummer 1 opnieuw een appartement, en moet dat getagd worden zoals hier boven gezegd (dit telt weer voor zowel het wrong als het missing_overlapping nummer). Daarnaast moet er volgens het CRAB ook nog een nummer 5 bestaan, al is het niet echt duidelijk waar dat is (de positie staat tussen 2 huizen). Hopelijk helpt deze info. Groeten, Sander Op 2 december 2014 16:22 schreef Guy Vanvuchelen guy.vanvuche...@gmail.com: Hallo Sander, Bedankt met de uitleg. Ik zou er graag mee aan de slag gaan, het weer is me immers te slecht om te gaan wandelen. Toch stoot ik nog op een paar vragen. Voor postnummer 3300 zie ik een rood bolletje op Vlierstraat. Na een klik zie ik: Total: 4 Missing: 2 Missing overlapping: 2 Wrong: 2 Voor de Iepenstraat staat een groen bolletje met: Total 11 Missing 1 Missing overlapping: 1 Wrong: 1 Waarop slaat Total, Missing, Missing overlapping, Wrong, op OSM of op AGIV? Als ik op een nummer (cijfer achter missing???) klik gebeurt er niets ook als ik JOSM geopend. Grt, Guy Vanvuchelen Van: Sander Deryckere [mailto:sander...@gmail.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2014 15:02 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand Zie de tool waaraan we aan het werken zijn/waren: http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840 http://aptum.github.io/import.html?pcode=8840loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map loadOsm=truecollapsedSections=data#map Vul gewoon je postcode in (bovenaan de pagina), klik op update, en bekijk op het kaartje welke straten volledig zijn (helder
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper van de maand
Hooi Sander, Het invoeren van huisnummers moet men met het nodige korreltje zou nemen. Ik gebruik reeds enkele tijd de script vanuit mijn luie zetel en het is niet altijd makkelijk om een ganse straat zonder missings te mappen. Wat ik al het meest ontdekt heb, buiten de fouten in CRAB zelf, zijn fouten in de straatnamen, zelfs op plaatsen waar al de rest fatsoenlijk gemapt is, en dan heb ik wel last met de relaties, die ik slecht beheer, als ik de straatnaam volgens CRAB aanpas. Elke methode om te nummeren heeft zijn nadelen. Deze week heb ik met CRAB in Mol een pleintje ondekt van een vijftal huizen dat nog niet in OSM stond. In AGIV GRB, extra uitgezomd, is de naam op die plaats ook niet te vinden, maar er staan er wel de huisnummers in. Ter plaatse was en geen enkele straatnaamplaat te bespeuren. Ik hoop dat het nu fatsoenlijk in OSM staat. Ik heb ook al in OSM een huis gevonden rond een CRABnummer op een plaats waarvan de grond nog te koop is. ;-) Wat volgens mij in de script nog zou nuttig zijn is naast het zonenummer de naam van de gemeente. Ook de som van iedere kolom, dan heb ik een idee van wat mij voor het zonenummer nog te wachten staat. Groetjes Sus 2014-12-02 13:37 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: Mooi werk. @Guy: We zijn wel tot de conclusie gekomen dat er in de data van AGIV ook wel veel fouten zitten. Dus gaat er niets boven manueel gemapte adressen. Momenteel zal de import zo zijn dat, als er manueel gemapte adressen zijn, en die komen overeen met de AGIV data, dan is zijn die adressen compleet, en moet er niemand nog naar kijken. En in ieder geval gaan we nooit manueel gemapte adressen verwijderen of aanpassen zonder controle. Bij mij komt de individuele mapper op de eerste plaats, en met de tools wil ik enkel het mappen van adressen eenvoudiger maken, zonder daarbij aan te zetten tot massa-importeringen of het mappen van plaatsen die je niet kent. Groeten, Sander https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Addresses from Land Registry Price Paid Data
On 1 December 2014 at 21:51, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Am 01.12.2014 15:08, schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): This also raises the question of whether there are any other OGL-licensed datasets out there that have been used in OSM, but which contain undocumented third-party IP rights that we don't have permission to use. This is, IMHO, not a problem specific to the OGL. In general I have yet to see any licence or agreement to include data in OSM, that actually states that the licensor has all the necessary rights to licence the data on the terms presented and holds the licensee (us) harmless for any damages arising out of not having those rights. That's true, but in both the examples you've given it's a case of other (non-copyright) rights that are not being licensed. At least an alert user will be aware of these other rights, and would be able to conduct their own checks (e.g. searching public patent databases, checking for people in the images) without needing anything more from the licensor. Presumably those licences *do* effectively guarantee that you're ok with the licensed data as far as copyright is concerned -- which is what the licence is there to license. With the OGL problem I've flagged up, it's different, in that there's seemingly no guarantee that the licence applies even to the copyright in all the copyrightable data that you've been given. If my reading is correct, then any random third-party could own copyrights in any of the data, and it then wouldn't be licensed to you to re-use, and there's no obligation on the licensor to tell you about this. But there would be no way for a user to spot this, unless they happen to suspect that some data could only have come from a third-party source and make enquires of the licensor. But the most immediate issue, I think, is do we need to do anything about the Land Registry address use in OSM -- as the addresses are apparently owned by a third-party, and so not covered by the OGL -- as a result of this? Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
Hi, In the spirit of free (as libre for sure), I think we must encourage to open data to everybody when is possible rather than just make release agreement. I'm not talk about share-alike or not, but just try make think open, for everyone. My 2 cents. Frédéric. Le 02/12/2014 00:53, Dave Corley a écrit : Hi, I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we want. To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. Does such a thing exist? If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) Thanks, Dave (DaCor) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
2014-12-02 10:05 GMT+01:00 Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com: In the spirit of free (as libre for sure), I think we must encourage to open data to everybody when is possible rather than just make release agreement. I'm not talk about share-alike or not, but just try make think open, for everyone. yes, I partly agree. Both variants have their pros and cons, (unless they decide to release under PD / CC0 what obviously is the best in terms of freedom). I'll give you an example: we have obtained in 2010 the permission from the national cartographic portal [1] to [derive features for osm from their aerial imagery distributed as WMS]. No mention of a license (or a particular dataset). When we changed the license in 2012 it didn't change anything, we can still derive features (and do this) until now. By the time they issued the permission, there was only imagery from 2006 and 2008, but since some time there is also imagery from 2012 which we still can use under the old, generic permission from 2010. If they had released a particular dataset under a particular license we probably wouldn't have been able to integrate new material as seamlessly as it was possible with this type of for OSM-permission, and maybe we would even have had to remove data due to the license change in 2012. cheers, Martin [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ITALY_Auth_portale_cartografico_nazionale.png ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Streams / Videos from SOTM 2014
Hi, is anybody aware if there is a place with the full video stream or *all* videos. I saw (in another thread?!) this page on Vimeo¹. From time to time someone uploaded further videos but for a week or so nothing changed. And I'm pretty sure there are still missing ones. Peda [1] http://vimeo.com/album/3134207 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Maximum snelheid N270
On 11/30/2014 03:21 PM, Pander OpenTaal wrote: On 11/13/2014 06:29 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-11-13 17:11, Pander OpenTaal wrote: Over Nuenen gesproken, de weg van Venray naar Nuenen heeft afwijkende maximale snelheid in werkelijkheid t.o.v. wat OsmAnd meldt. Mocht iemand dat willen aanpassen is dat welkom. Welk gedeelte. Van Venray naar Helmond staat het op 80, dat zal wel kloppen. Door Helmond is het 50, ik denk dat het alleen het stuk tussen Helmond en Eindhoven is wat op plaatsen niet klopt. Daar is de laatste tijd wel wat gewijzigd met de Brandevoort dreef en ik kom er ook niet elke dag. Als je er was, kun je aangeven wat precies niet klopt? Er waren meer verschillende snelheden. Weet het helaas niet meer uit mijn hoofd. Aangezien ik daar verder nooit kom en ik aandacht bij de weg moest houden leek het me onverstandig om aantekeningen te maken tijdens het rijden. Misschien kan iemand die daar regelmatig rijdt het herzien of meer informatie verstrekken. In Osmand zit een plugin Audio/Video Notes. Je krijgt dan een opnameknop te zien, en kan dan een geluidsopname (of video, of foto) maken. De opname komt te staan op de plek waar je de opname startte. Ik gebruik het erg veel om bijv. snelheden op snelwegen aan te geven. Enige probleem is dat er (nog) geen JOSM-plugin is die die notes makkelijk in kan lezen. Wat ik er van gelezen heb is dat Java geen 3gp-bestanden aan zou kunnen. Maar als ik tijd heb dan maak ik een scriptje die ze omzet naar een GPX-bestand + website, zodat je ze tenminste de positie makkelijk kan bepalen. Tijmen ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Welke tags voor straten in de bebouwde kom?
Maarten en Marc, Ik wilde eerst ontkennen, maar struikel daarbij bijna over een soortgelijke weg. Een beetje laat misschien, maar ach zie link, http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.47176/4.81757 een secundaire weg zonder direct aanliggende bebouwing is door de gemeente Zaanstad van een 50 km voorzien. Mede met het oog op de grote aantrekkelijke en publieke belangstelling voor de Zaanse Schans. Dat komt dus op meer plaatsen voor, geen aangrenzende bebouwing en toch 50 km en niet in de BBK ? Verkeerskundig oneigenlijk gebruik van de maatregel. Dat maakt IMHO het toepassen van een automatische edit lastig. Hendrikklaas ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Inclusion of Barony of .. as prefix to all Barony names?
Brian thanks for raising this point - may I broaden it a little? I too noticed that some mappers include ED and Civil Parish but actually many do not and I haven't noticed any guidance on this anywhere for the moment. So it would be good to come to a consensus on these terms also. Thinking about it a bit, I would suggest we try to find a way to improve the readability of the map rather than add the extra text to the names of CPs, EDs or Baronies inside the OSM database. For example, it might be possible for the renderer of the (really helpful) slippymap at http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html to add the extra text automatically, or perhaps the fonts / colours / hatching could be tweaked. I suggest approaching it from this point of view so we can stick to the OSM convention of capturing the what just the once, in the other tags only. As well as reducing effort, text, duplication, possibility of mistakes, it also allows names to be queried automatically as expected. Forgive the ridiculous examples but if somebody wanted to analyse how many things start with each letter of the alphabet...we don't want them to have to write an exception for Irish Baronies so that they start at the 11th character (to skip Barony of ). Or for the student who for some reason wants to calculate the average length of names of things in OSM, we don't want them to have to subtract 13 when it comes to length of names of Civil Parish. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for listening, and thanks to everyone who is contributing to the townlanding project. - John. On 2 December 2014 at 10:00, Brian Hollinshead br...@hollinshead.net wrote: In County Carlow there is Rathvilly Town, and ED and Civil Parish and Barony. Having an interest in Historical boundaries as well as their relevance for genealogy I printed out an A1 map of County Carlow with townlands and Civil parishes and Baronies. Even though the barony names were in a different font size and colour I felt it would be more friendly to anyone reading the map to prefix Barony of to each barony name where I had not remembered to. I may also have strayed into PJNAs wexford with the same in mind. (Sorry PJ) Maybe we could reach a gentle consensus as to how to approach this, I look forward to your views. We already include ED and Civil Parish in their titles. I wonder if we are going to includeBarony ofwhether the preset magician Donal can prepopulate the name box? No hardship if he can't. ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente, volume 75, assunto 2
Compreendi perfeitamente. Vou seguir os procedimentos indicados. Show de bola as explicacoes de vcs!! Talvez, se o osmand le essas informacoes, o gps garmin (mapa Cocar-DL) e o gps 7ways (mapa Fidelis Assis) tambem vao encontrar a informacao na base de dados. Vou testar. Muito grato, Helio Cesar Tomio Em terça-feira, 2 de dezembro de 2014, talk-br-requ...@openstreetmap.org escreveu: Enviar submissões para a lista de discussão Talk-br para talk-br@openstreetmap.org Para se cadastrar ou descadastrar via WWW, visite o endereço https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ou, via email, envie uma mensagem com a palavra 'help' no assunto ou corpo da mensagem para talk-br-requ...@openstreetmap.org Você poderá entrar em contato com a pessoa que gerencia a lista pelo endereço talk-br-ow...@openstreetmap.org Quando responder, por favor edite sua linha Assunto assim ela será mais específica que Re: Contents of Talk-br digest... Tópicos de Hoje: 1. Re: tag inexistente (Arlindo Pereira) 2. Re: tag inexistente (Gerald Weber) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:14:42 -0200 From: Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente Message-ID: CADWq+2s=PW-+a7n=o+eepk10ghdGU= hwusdclffp7s6_raw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Olá Helio, o OSM usa um sistema de tags bastante livre, de forma que se não há uma tag documentada para um dado propósito (vide http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office), você pode criar. Creio que office=engineer e office=construction_company sejam adequados. Neste caso, você pode criar o ponto no OSM com esta tag e (se possível, de preferência) incluir uma linha na tabela da página do wiki acima para que outras pessoas façam o mesmo. []s Arlindo 2014-12-01 0:33 GMT-02:00 Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com: Prezados Senhores, Tentei adicionar um ponto no OSM, mas não achei a tag para Engenheiro , Escritorio de Engenharia ou Construtora. (algo como engineer , office engineering ou construction worker?) Achei tags para outras profissões como architect ou lawyer. Também achei office=architect , office=lawyer ou office=it. Não sei como criar estas novas tags no OSM, referente ao engenheiro. Vcs poderiam ajudar ou me orientar como proceder? (sou novato nesses assuntos do OSM) Grato, Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Próxima Parte -- Um anexo em HTML foi limpo... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/attachments/20141201/0e168ed1/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:27:24 -0200 From: Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente Message-ID: CAKoZzo0h77gpOTKS3s_fw2sYJ= aphgteg0ugz8dybw_irc4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Oi Helio bemvindo ao projeto Já tem 61 usos informais da tag office=engineering http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=engineering e 37 do tipo office=engineer http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=engineer e 33 de construction_company http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=construction_company veja aí o que atende melhor dito isto, não espere que qualquer um deles seja visível no mapa gráfico. Observe a coluna Rendering, na página que o Arlindo indicou. Nenhum tipo de office é mostrado gráficamente no mapa. O que não impede que no futuro isto comece a aparecer, mas digo isto apenas para minimizar possíveis frustrações ;) Por outro lado, aplicativos como Osmand mostram tags tipo office nos campos de busca. abraço Gerald 2014-12-01 10:14 GMT-02:00 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com : Olá Helio, o OSM usa um sistema de tags bastante livre, de forma que se não há uma tag documentada para um dado propósito (vide http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office), você pode criar. Creio que office=engineer e office=construction_company sejam adequados. Neste caso, você pode criar o ponto no OSM com esta tag e (se possível, de preferência) incluir uma linha na tabela da página do wiki acima para que outras pessoas façam o mesmo. []s Arlindo 2014-12-01 0:33 GMT-02:00 Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com: Prezados Senhores, Tentei adicionar um ponto no OSM, mas não achei a tag para Engenheiro , Escritorio de Engenharia ou Construtora. (algo como engineer , office engineering ou construction worker?) Achei tags para outras profissões como architect ou lawyer. Também achei office=architect , office=lawyer ou office=it. Não sei como criar
Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente, volume 75, assunto 2
No compilacao da mapa para aparelhos como garmin tem um limite de simbolos disponiveis, assim preciso selecionar o que e mais interresant ou juntar etiquetas similares no mesmo simbolo. Aun Johnsen Sent from my iPhone On 2. des. 2014, at 12.38, Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com wrote: Compreendi perfeitamente. Vou seguir os procedimentos indicados. Show de bola as explicacoes de vcs!! Talvez, se o osmand le essas informacoes, o gps garmin (mapa Cocar-DL) e o gps 7ways (mapa Fidelis Assis) tambem vao encontrar a informacao na base de dados. Vou testar. Muito grato, Helio Cesar Tomio Em terça-feira, 2 de dezembro de 2014, talk-br-requ...@openstreetmap.org escreveu: Enviar submissões para a lista de discussão Talk-br para talk-br@openstreetmap.org Para se cadastrar ou descadastrar via WWW, visite o endereço https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ou, via email, envie uma mensagem com a palavra 'help' no assunto ou corpo da mensagem para talk-br-requ...@openstreetmap.org Você poderá entrar em contato com a pessoa que gerencia a lista pelo endereço talk-br-ow...@openstreetmap.org Quando responder, por favor edite sua linha Assunto assim ela será mais específica que Re: Contents of Talk-br digest... Tópicos de Hoje: 1. Re: tag inexistente (Arlindo Pereira) 2. Re: tag inexistente (Gerald Weber) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:14:42 -0200 From: Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente Message-ID: CADWq+2s=PW-+a7n=o+eepk10ghdGU=hwusdclffp7s6_raw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Olá Helio, o OSM usa um sistema de tags bastante livre, de forma que se não há uma tag documentada para um dado propósito (vide http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office), você pode criar. Creio que office=engineer e office=construction_company sejam adequados. Neste caso, você pode criar o ponto no OSM com esta tag e (se possível, de preferência) incluir uma linha na tabela da página do wiki acima para que outras pessoas façam o mesmo. []s Arlindo 2014-12-01 0:33 GMT-02:00 Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com: Prezados Senhores, Tentei adicionar um ponto no OSM, mas não achei a tag para Engenheiro , Escritorio de Engenharia ou Construtora. (algo como engineer , office engineering ou construction worker?) Achei tags para outras profissões como architect ou lawyer. Também achei office=architect , office=lawyer ou office=it. Não sei como criar estas novas tags no OSM, referente ao engenheiro. Vcs poderiam ajudar ou me orientar como proceder? (sou novato nesses assuntos do OSM) Grato, Helio Cesar Tomio hcto...@gmail.com ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Próxima Parte -- Um anexo em HTML foi limpo... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/attachments/20141201/0e168ed1/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:27:24 -0200 From: Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-br] tag inexistente Message-ID: CAKoZzo0h77gpOTKS3s_fw2sYJ=aphgteg0ugz8dybw_irc4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Oi Helio bemvindo ao projeto Já tem 61 usos informais da tag office=engineering http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=engineering e 37 do tipo office=engineer http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=engineer e 33 de construction_company http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=construction_company veja aí o que atende melhor dito isto, não espere que qualquer um deles seja visível no mapa gráfico. Observe a coluna Rendering, na página que o Arlindo indicou. Nenhum tipo de office é mostrado gráficamente no mapa. O que não impede que no futuro isto comece a aparecer, mas digo isto apenas para minimizar possíveis frustrações ;) Por outro lado, aplicativos como Osmand mostram tags tipo office nos campos de busca. abraço Gerald 2014-12-01 10:14 GMT-02:00 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com : Olá Helio, o OSM usa um sistema de tags bastante livre, de forma que se não há uma tag documentada para um dado propósito (vide http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office), você pode criar. Creio que office=engineer e office=construction_company sejam adequados. Neste caso, você pode criar o ponto no OSM com esta tag e (se possível, de preferência) incluir uma linha na tabela da página do wiki acima para que outras
Re: [Talk-de] OSM: NEUe Funktion “Query Features”
Elstermann, Mike schrieb: https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/osm-neue-funktion-query-features/ Lange erwartet und nun endlich online, die neue Funktion “Query Features” auf der OSM-Hauptseite http://www.openstreetmap.org/. Einfacher geht’s nicht: 1. Werkzeug wählen 2. abzufragendes Objekt anklicken 3. Sachdaten ablesen Danke und Glückwunsch! Auch Danke! Super! Gut mit dem Legenden-hover gelöst. Als Freund des alles auf einen Blick, hätte ich vielleicht die Zeilen etwas weniger luftig gestaltet: für eine Zeile drei ZAbstände ... bestens, t. mikeE., der geoObserver ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] JOSM installieren
Da wurde in den letzten Tagen diesbezüglich etwas repariert bei JOSM. Am besten nochmal Java cache löschen (siehe https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9917#comment:3) und dann die josm-latest.jnpl nutzen, oder warten, bis die nächste stabile Version veröffentlicht wird (ist vom Datum her bereits überfällig). VG Klumbumbus Am 30.11.2014 15:42, schrieb Markus: Wenn man JOSM installiert mit: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/josm.jnlp muss man nach der Anpassung der Einstellungen JOSM neu starten. Dabei komt die Meldung: Programm kann nicht gestartet werden Diese Meldung kann man mit OK wegklicken, dann läuft alles wie gewünscht. Wozu dient diese Meldung? Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-in] Fwd: New query feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Forwarded Message Subject: New query feature Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:08:39 + From: HarryWood New query feature A couple of weeks ago we mentioned a brand new feature on the OpenStreetMap.org homepage. On the right hand side we have a new “?” button which lets you query the map. * On openstreetmap.org http://openstreeetmap.org, zoom in somewhere * Click the “?” button to enter query mode * Click the map on something you are interested in * Hover over the results, and choose one to find out more query_tool When you query a spot on the map, this new tool will retrieve nearby points of interest from the OpenStreetMap database, and let you quickly drill down to all of the detailed tagging information we have in that database. More than a map This new tool helps highlight a crucial point about OpenStreetMap. It’s so much more than just a visual map. OpenStreetMap is a rich database of geo-located information, only some of which is visible on the “standard” view of the map. Other information is visible via different layers (such as cycle routes presented on the cycling layer) and all of the data can be viewed by enabling the “map data” layer (also on the layer picker panel) but this query tool offers a new window into the OpenStreetMap data, and a new way to discover all the details our contributors are adding to the database. For developers this data opens up a world of possibilities. All the data is available to download http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data for free. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUfdxbAAoJEHbIEpOTpdD8VsIIAM7ASnceO3wn8qiMBwDEHbpA xVzRjRDZwkg0qO0ueb655y7o0KhubDFdgqFH0bMq67UvTWI95xcHMu2h5JkAqff9 44UdhPdaLDD+bOSiK2CHwlBk9WP+1BO9PjMtdRWzoDE2Q3cc4PIiKNXw6ScRiEPl SuTjD1D33SabAc5SHSOEV0n3lJMVhglDF0gvkkPHwhj9Dye8/wC8EqQcSFafnO1M SD05SmipOVuvz79kk5TMvCxeQ/Nfiqgj0oL5tPc8TtA+iiAEnHFEltdGTwIkC83R J7UR/OhCDzNGcLvWLj3QEHHxJt8SoEtWnFyxsDO3VjCLia8kS1KHdNljplhCVdQ= =4BAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Fwd: New query feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Forwarded Message Subject: New query feature Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:08:39 + From: HarryWood New query feature A couple of weeks ago we mentioned a brand new feature on the OpenStreetMap.org homepage. On the right hand side we have a new “?” button which lets you query the map. * On openstreetmap.org http://openstreeetmap.org, zoom in somewhere * Click the “?” button to enter query mode * Click the map on something you are interested in * Hover over the results, and choose one to find out more query_tool When you query a spot on the map, this new tool will retrieve nearby points of interest from the OpenStreetMap database, and let you quickly drill down to all of the detailed tagging information we have in that database. More than a map This new tool helps highlight a crucial point about OpenStreetMap. It’s so much more than just a visual map. OpenStreetMap is a rich database of geo-located information, only some of which is visible on the “standard” view of the map. Other information is visible via different layers (such as cycle routes presented on the cycling layer) and all of the data can be viewed by enabling the “map data” layer (also on the layer picker panel) but this query tool offers a new window into the OpenStreetMap data, and a new way to discover all the details our contributors are adding to the database. For developers this data opens up a world of possibilities. All the data is available to download http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data for free. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUfdxbAAoJEHbIEpOTpdD8VsIIAM7ASnceO3wn8qiMBwDEHbpA xVzRjRDZwkg0qO0ueb655y7o0KhubDFdgqFH0bMq67UvTWI95xcHMu2h5JkAqff9 44UdhPdaLDD+bOSiK2CHwlBk9WP+1BO9PjMtdRWzoDE2Q3cc4PIiKNXw6ScRiEPl SuTjD1D33SabAc5SHSOEV0n3lJMVhglDF0gvkkPHwhj9Dye8/wC8EqQcSFafnO1M SD05SmipOVuvz79kk5TMvCxeQ/Nfiqgj0oL5tPc8TtA+iiAEnHFEltdGTwIkC83R J7UR/OhCDzNGcLvWLj3QEHHxJt8SoEtWnFyxsDO3VjCLia8kS1KHdNljplhCVdQ= =4BAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Incrocio modificato
L'utente avrà anche migliaia di edit alle spalle, ma penso siano tutti fatti usando solo keepright senza mai aver visto uno dei posti che edita: se scorri la lista dei suoi edit vedrai che ha editato praticamente in tutto il mondo e già la cosa a me insospettisce, oltretutto un'ora dopo la modifica a Lecce ha messo mano in Arabia Saudita... Vai di revert senza remore :-) PS: Anche io ho molti edit nel leccese pur essendo di Torino... ma perchè a Lecce ci vengo un paio di volte l'anno :-) -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Incrocio-modificato-tp5826014p5826047.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Incrocio modificato
Ciao, hai scritto al utente in questione? Poi vedo altre cose problematiche su questo incrocio. Hai inserito un numero di ways che non esistono (solo marchiatura sulla carreggiata): http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991934 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991938 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991939 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991940 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991941 Sarebbero da eliminare e sostituire con lanes e turn restrictions. Volker Il giorno 1 dicembre 2014 21:31, Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com ha scritto: Qualcuno mi può aiutare a capire cosa è successo con questo changeset 27157225, dell'utente keepright! ler? http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27157225#map=17/40.36676/18.22324 Da quel che vedo tramite OSM History (che oggi pare non funzionare granché) è stato cambiata la classificazione di alcune vie da trunk a secondary ed un piccolo pezzo da trunk a primary, sono stati aggiunti dei semafori che di fatto non esistono (venendo da San Cataldo verso Lecce la svolta a destra su via G.A.Roggerone) e si sono venute a creare diverse crossing ways facilmente riscontrabili dal validatore di JOSM. Questo era un incrocio che avevo sistemato un po' di tempo fa e mi chiedo se ci fosse davvero bisogno delle modifiche che sono state apportate, in maniera un po' troppo approssimativa mi pare, anche se l'utente ha migliaia di edit alle spalle. Mi chiedo quindi se non sia meglio tornare indietro con un revert e al massimo sistemare la classificazione delle vie, perchè in effetti il passaggio da trunk a secondary di alcuni tratti lo condivido. Un grazie sincero a chi dedicherà del tempo a sbrogliare questa faccenda. Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Maptime Roma
Parte MapTime Roma, l’occasione per aggregare persone che si occupano, odesiderino approfondire, cultura, problematiche e tecnologiegeospaziali e favorirne la diffusione. Incontri in cui i partecipanti possono discutere, imparare e divulgare argomentiquali OpenStreetMap, l’uso dei Sistemi Informativi Geografici ed irelativi tool Open Source necessari. Appuntamento Martedi prossimo, 9 dicembre, presso la Città dell’Altra Economia alle ore 18.00. L’evento è pubblico e gratuito, rivolto a esperti della materia, ma soprattutto a tuttiquelli vogliono imparare. Registratevi: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/maptime-rome-chapter-primo-incontro-tickets-14709256783 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma
2014-12-02 9:19 GMT+01:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Appuntamento Martedi prossimo, 9 dicembre, presso la Città dell’Altra Economia alle ore 18.00. L’evento è pubblico e gratuito, rivolto a esperti della materia, ma soprattutto a tutti quelli vogliono imparare. Registratevi: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/maptime-rome-chapter-primo-incontro-tickets-14709256783 Bella iniziativa. Potete aggiungere la NEWS sulla wiki di osm? Siete legati al movimento http://maptime.io? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma
2014-12-02 9:47 GMT+01:00 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Bella iniziativa. +1, ho inoltrato l'invito anche alla lista regionale (talk-it-lazio). Personalmente sono fuori Roma in quella data perciò spero che ci sia una prossima volta ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma
Si, è la prima riunione del Chapter di Roma.Non hanno ancora aggiornato il sito principale, ma presto ci saremo anche noi. grazie per la diffusione LDate: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 09:47:33 +0100From: Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.comTo: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.orgSubject: Re: [Talk-it] Maptime RomaMessage-ID:CABgMo2zABhx7e9xLTYakt_THTo2s=g+9vmz7k41nwnummon...@mail.gmail.comContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-82014-12-02 9:19 GMT+01:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Appuntamento Martedi prossimo, 9 dicembre, presso la Città dell’Altra Economia alle ore 18.00. L’evento è pubblico e gratuito, rivolto a esperti della materia, ma soprattutto a tutti quelli vogliono imparare. Registratevi: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/maptime-rome-chapter-primo-incontro-tickets-14709256783Bella iniziativa.Potete aggiungere la NEWS sulla wiki di osm?Siete legati al movimento http://maptime.io?-- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Query features
Ho appena notato la comparsa sul sito principale della strumento Query features: -cliccando sul pulsante sul punto esclamativo, il puntatore del mouse mostra un punto esclamativo. -Cliccando ora su un qualunque punto della mappa, compare sulla sinistra un elenco di link agli oggetti vicini alla posizione cliccata, e di confini che racchiudono il punto. Lo trovo molto utile per rapidi controlli estemporanei. Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Il Garmin a Bologna mi porta nelle ZTL
2014-11-26 12:02 GMT+01:00 Mauro Costantini maurocostantini1...@gmail.com: Il problema della P.A. temo sia piuttosto sottile: chi è autorizzato? i veicoli solo di quella pubblica amministrazione (comune, anas, regione, ...) che è proprietaria della strada? di ogni altra p.a.? ho trovato un riferimento che penso potrebbe essere pertinente, in realtà comprende non solo quelli indicati da te ma anche associazioni assistenziali, aziende private con fini di pubblica utilità e singoli cittadini con funzioni pubbliche: http://allegatiregolamenti.comune.prato.it/dl/20120214121514702/permessi.txt perciò la voce della CAT. 3 si chiama PUBBLICA UTILITA' (e non pubblica amministrazione) ___ CAT.3 PUBBLICA UTILITA' Il permesso dà diritto ad Enti e Uffici Pubblici, Associazioni assistenziali, aziende private con fini di pubblica utilità e a singoli cittadini con funzioni pubbliche ad accedere e sostare in A.P.U. negli orari compresi tra le 13.00 e le 15.30 e tra le 19.00 e le 10.00 e accedere e sostare in Z.T.L. nei parcheggi riservati. Le autovetture di Pubbliche Amministrazioni in visita in città possono accedere e sostare in Z.T.L. e in A.P.U. in qualsiasi orario e senza la necessità del permesso. ___ Direi che dal testo sembra che valga anche per le amministrazioni esteri (non solo UE), è sufficiente che sono in visita in città e che si tratta di autovetture di Pubbliche Amministrazioni ;-) Non sono del tutto sicuro che quel testo è attuale / in vigore, non ha alcuna data (se non quella della directory, che fa pensare che viene del 2012) e la sanzione è indicata in lire (forse è normale, non leggo tanti testi del genere) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Incrocio modificato
2014-12-02 9:15 GMT+01:00 glaucos glauc...@gmail.com: Vai di revert senza remore :-) Fatto :-) PS: Anche io ho molti edit nel leccese pur essendo di Torino... ma perchè a Lecce ci vengo un paio di volte l'anno :-) Allora, se ti va, quando vieni a Lecce fatti sentire! 2014-12-02 9:16 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: hai scritto al utente in questione? Gli ho scritto subito ieri in contemporanea col messaggio in lista, ma non ho avuto ancora nessuna risposta. Poi vedo altre cose problematiche su questo incrocio. Hai inserito un numero di ways che non esistono (solo marchiatura sulla carreggiata): http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991934 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991938 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991939 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991940 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294991941 Sarebbero da eliminare e sostituire con lanes e turn restrictions. Ho fatto il revert e alcuni aggiustamenti all'incrocio. Se puoi dagli ancora un'occhiata: mi farebbe piacere un tuo parere per capire se può andare bene così. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/315454871#map=19/40.36707/18.22073 Grazie a tutti e due per i consigli. Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma + Milano
Grande Luca! Il Chapter di Milano rilancia con un primo incontro il martedì successivo :D ### Maptime! Milano - Edizione Zero ### martedì 16 Dicembre, ore 18.30, presso Facoltà di Architettura e Società - Politecnico di Milano (Aula R1) via Ampère n°1, Milano https://twitter.com/maptimeMI https://twitter.com/maptimeMI Michele Ferretti MaptimeMI Il giorno 02/dic/2014, alle ore 13:13, Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com ha scritto: Si, è la prima riunione del Chapter di Roma. Non hanno ancora aggiornato il sito principale, ma presto ci saremo anche noi. grazie per la diffusione L Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 09:47:33 +0100 From: Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com mailto:sim...@cortesi.com To: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma Message-ID: CABgMo2zABhx7e9xLTYakt_THTo2s=g+9vmz7k41nwnummon...@mail.gmail.com mailto:CABgMo2zABhx7e9xLTYakt_THTo2s=g+9vmz7k41nwnummon...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-12-02 9:19 GMT+01:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com mailto:luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Appuntamento Martedi prossimo, 9 dicembre, presso la Città dell’Altra Economia alle ore 18.00. L’evento è pubblico e gratuito, rivolto a esperti della materia, ma soprattutto a tutti quelli vogliono imparare. Registratevi: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/maptime-rome-chapter-primo-incontro-tickets-14709256783 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/maptime-rome-chapter-primo-incontro-tickets-14709256783 Bella iniziativa. Potete aggiungere la NEWS sulla wiki di osm? Siete legati al movimento http://maptime.io? http://maptime.io/? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Il Garmin a Bologna mi porta nelle ZTL
c'è una notizia dalla lista di tagging, l'NCC in inglese si chiama private_hire ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Maptime Roma
Il 02/12/2014 09:47, Simone Cortesi ha scritto: Bella iniziativa. Potete aggiungere la NEWS sulla wiki di osm? Fatto! Mi sembra un ottima iniziativa, farò di tutto per riuscire a passare :) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Dissuadere da utilizzo via
Il 01/dic/2014 15:23 Mauro Costantini maurocostantini1...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 1 dicembre 2014 15:05, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto: Una domanda sulle inversioni di senso unico. Mi pareva fosse buona pratica quando si cambia senso ad una via impostare oneway=-1 e non invertire i nodi della way (come nel caso in questione). Ricordo male? Sul wiki ho sempre letto questa frase: «If the oneway restriction is in the opposite direction to the drawn way, the fix in most cases is to turn the way around (reverse way tool in the map editors) and apply oneway=yes. If in a (very) rare case, the direction of the way cannot be changed, you can instead tag it as oneway=-1. » https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Oneway Ho preferito usare il modo che mi sembrava il più veloce e pulito possibile. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Meeting this week
It's that time of month again! See you on Thursday for our regular meeting at the Bull Price Street Rgds Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-at] Neue Luftbilder von Wien
Hallo! Lt. Changelog [0] wurden die Stadtplan-Orthofotos mit Luftbildern aus dem Juni 2014 aktualisiert. An der Kreuzung Bergmillergasse/Keißlergasse[1] kann ich das nachvollziehen, dort ist auf dem Luftbild grade Baustelle für den mittlerweile existierenden Kreisverkehr. Vielen Dank an das ViennaGIS-Team und viel Spaß beim Aktualisieren grade jüngster baulicher Änderungen in OSM! :) Servus, Andreas [0] https://open.wien.gv.at/site/open-data/changelog/ [1] http://www.wien.gv.at/stadtplan/grafik.aspx?lang=de-ATbookmark=LgrQRZknHkZEwwNDjievQkFSphlnqnnkur2pH4Oprw-b-b ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-ro] Autostrada A1-Lugoj Nord
Salut, Nu găsesc prin presă nicio referință că ar fi dat în funcțiune, ca autostradă, drumul între Lugoj Nord și A1 (e vorba de acel drum albastru, pe direcția N-S, de la http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.7700/21.8961 ) Poate cineva să confirme sau să infirme că această autostradă există? Mersi, Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Autostrada A1-Lugoj Nord
Exista, am folosit-o prin august fara probleme. 2014-12-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Salut, Nu găsesc prin presă nicio referință că ar fi dat în funcțiune, ca autostradă, drumul între Lugoj Nord și A1 (e vorba de acel drum albastru, pe direcția N-S, de la http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.7700/21.8961 ) Poate cineva să confirme sau să infirme că această autostradă există? Mersi, Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Autostrada A1-Lugoj Nord
Salut. Este functional. Am fost pe el acum o luna si jumatate. Din pacate nu am avut nici un GPS activ pe masina ca sa pot extrage un GPX path. Apropo... daca printre voi exista fani Arduino/RapberryPI/DYI aruncati un ochi pe http://itbrainpower.net/ ...electronica made in Romania. Toate bune, Dragos --- Dragos Iosub RD Software Solutions srl GST SSC BRONZE AWARD WINNER http://itbrainpower.net - brain was not declared prohibited drug, then use it! mobile: (+4)0745611611 2014-12-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Salut, Nu găsesc prin presă nicio referință că ar fi dat în funcțiune, ca autostradă, drumul între Lugoj Nord și A1 (e vorba de acel drum albastru, pe direcția N-S, de la http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.7700/21.8961 ) Poate cineva să confirme sau să infirme că această autostradă există? Mersi, Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
[Talk-pt] kickstarter para o livro do openstreetmap
Ora viva. O Steve Coast (fundador do projecto OSM), lembrou-se lançar em kickstarter o financiamento de um livro que em principio irá consistir na história do OSM em 25%, estando os restantes 75% reservadas a histórias sobre contribuidores chave que por via do seu papel passado e actual fizeram a diferença. Em suma uma espécie de biografia do projecto. Quem estiver interessado em participar neste processo de crowdfunding, pode aceder ao seguinte link. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/237731198/the-book-of-openstreetmap ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
Ahoj, díky všem za rady. Doopravil jsem to podle tohoto návrhu a dojel překlad JOSM na 100% (samozřejmě k dnešku). Chtěl bych požádat všechny, kdo pracují s JOSM v češtině, aby dávali pozor na chyby a neobratné překlady a posílali mi je a já je tam pak opravím. Děkuji, Dalibor -Original Message- From: Karel Volný [mailto:ka...@seznam.cz] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:42 PM To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech? zdar, taky nejsem stavař, nicméně nemyslím si, že by šlo až o takové speciality, takže bych si dovolil návrhy poopravit, i když s odkazy na českou Wiki mě už Petr předběhl ... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bridge_types#Pr oposal - bascule *** sklápěcí ehm, spíše sklopný https://www.google.com/search?q=%22sklopn%C3%BD+most%22ie=UTF- 8 6320 výsledků https://www.google.com/search?q=%22skl%C3%A1p%C4%9Bc%C3%AD+mo st%22ie=UTF-8 1450 výsledků - transporter *** dopravník http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondolový_most - lift_pier - pivot_pier *** zdvihací podle http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most spíše zvedací; Google spojení zvedací pilíř ani zdvihací pilíř nezná, nicméně ve spojení s mostem je to 19900 vs 4940 a otočný pilíř podle stejné logiky jako výše spíše otáčecí - otočný je samotný most[1], ale pilíř bude nejspíše statický, jen sloužící k otáčení[2] [1] http://ssjc.ujc.cas.cz/search.php?hledej=Hledatheslo=oto%C4%8Dn%C3% BDsti=EMPTYwhere=heslahsubstr=no [2] http://ssjc.ujc.cas.cz/search.php?hledej=Hledatheslo=ot%C3%A1%C4%8D ec%C3%ADsti=EMPTYwhere=heslahsubstr=no K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-cz] Hlášení budov
Ahoj, jen upřesnění - hlášení neplatných budov má dvojí účel - jednak sběr dat pro ČÚZK (i když nejsem na ničem dohodnut) a druhý účel je pro nás, aby nikdo nemapoval zbourané budovy apod. Zbouranou budovu či chybu typu SO není budovou nejspíš na ČÚZK hlásit nebudeme, a to bez ohledu na zaškrtnutý či nezaškrtnutý čtvereček. Není to totiž chyba - že je budova zbouraná z pohledu práva nejspíš nic neznamená a ČÚZK asi nemá důvod s tím cokoli dělat - asi by musel majitel budovy oficiálně požádat o výmaz, nevím. No to jen pro info. -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
On 12/02/2014 10:53 AM, Dalibor Jelínek wrote: Ahoj, díky všem za rady. Doopravil jsem to podle tohoto návrhu a dojel překlad JOSM na 100% (samozřejmě k dnešku). Chtěl bych požádat všechny, kdo pracují s JOSM v češtině, aby dávali pozor na chyby a neobratné překlady a posílali mi je a já je tam pak opravím. Děkuji, Dalibor Ahoj, skvělá práce, díky moc! Zkusím si dneska stáhnout ty překladový řetězce a projít si je; mám podezření, že minimálně několik procent textů v češtině vzniklo kdysi pouhým zkopírováním ze slovenštiny (což je sice lepší než drátem do voka, ale už několikrát mě to v JOSM zaskočilo). Bohužel se to mnohem hůř hledá než nepřeložený texty, ale na papíře mi to snad půjde líp :) Honza Piškvor Martinec ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Posunutá mapa?
Zajímalo by mne, co je příčinou, že vlastně Bing je posunut (a žel v různých místech různě)? Tedy co si při projekci zjednodušili respektive zda jim pro dobrou projekci neschází nějaká data (v dobré kvalitě)? Nejsem v tomhle uplne kovany a mozna nekdo typu Hanoje bude vedet vice, ale osobne se domnivam, ze hlavni problem souvisi s modelem terenu. Existuji pomerne presne a nakladne metody typu laseroveho snimani terenu z letadel, ale ty pravdepodobne maji zvladnute lokalni firmy pro CR docela slusne, ale pro cely svet v potrebnem rozliseni to muze byt podstatne horsi a nakladnejsi. A muze byt, ze se ty modely take postupne zlepsuji a tudiz treba novejsi snimkovani uz je napasovane na novy model a tudiz presnejsi. Jinak s tim, jak resit predel map a zmeny map: - predel se da resit tak, ze pro starou mapu a novou mapu se udelaji separatni kalibrace - jeden bod pro starou mapu, jeden bod pro novou mapu - zmeny map se resi tak, ze se stavajici offset v databazi prohlasi za deprecated a vyrobi se novy offset Navic by bylo super nabrat nekde ty kalibracni geometrie, idealne zamerene pomoci geodetickych GPSek. Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
Dne Út 2. prosince 2014 13:48:27, Jan Martinec napsal(a): skvělá práce, díky moc! +1 V dialogu pro otevření souboru je Otevřená místo Otevření nebo Otevřít. -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
-- Původní zpráva -- Od: Jan Martinec j...@martinec.name Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 2. 12. 2014 13:49:23 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech? On 12/02/2014 10:53 AM, Dalibor Jelínek wrote: Ahoj, díky všem za rady. Doopravil jsem to podle tohoto návrhu a dojel překlad JOSM na 100% (samozřejmě k dnešku). Chtěl bych požádat všechny, kdo pracují s JOSM v češtině, aby dávali pozor na chyby a neobratné překlady a posílali mi je a já je tam pak opravím. Děkuji, Dalibor Ahoj, skvělá práce, díky moc! Taktéž se připojuji s poděkováním. Díky. Zkusím si dneska stáhnout ty překladový řetězce a projít si je; mám podezření, že minimálně několik procent textů v češtině vzniklo kdysi pouhým zkopírováním ze slovenštiny (což je sice lepší než drátem do voka, ale už několikrát mě to v JOSM zaskočilo). Bohužel se to mnohem hůř hledá než nepřeložený texty, ale na papíře mi to snad půjde líp :) Jo. Slovenské texty jsem taky občas zahlédl, ale mám pocit, že je Dalibor už opravil. V aktuální verzi JOSM jsem zatím žádný nenašel. Ha, tak minimálně jeden zůstal: --set=key=value Nastavte prednastavený kľúč na hodnotu Marián Honza Piškvor Martinec ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
Taky bych občas něco přeložil, ale Lauchpad nemám rád, přesun na Transifex nevyšel a náhradní řešení (JOSM Trac) zatím není a asi ještě dost dlouho nebude. Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Dalibor Jelínek dali...@dalibor.cz Komu: 'OpenStreetMap Czech Republic' talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 2. 12. 2014 14:15:52 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech? Ahoj, diky za reporty. Otevrena uz jsem snad opravil a projevi se to v nejakem dalsim buildu. Jeste bych doplnil, ze nejsem jediny prekladatel JOSM, prekladaji i dalsi dobrovolnici, viz tady https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/josm/cs/+details Takze diky patri i jim. Co se tyce slovenstiny, tak te je tam jeste pozehnane. Neopravil jsem vsechno, spis jen na co jsem narazil. Hodne tech retezcu je v chybovych hlaskach, ktere se vyskytuji sporadicky. Projit cely soubor a hledat jen slovencinu se mi jeste nechtelo. Mejte se, Dalibor -Original Message- From: Jan Martinec [mailto:j...@martinec.name] Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:48 PM To: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech? On 12/02/2014 10:53 AM, Dalibor Jelínek wrote: Ahoj, díky všem za rady. Doopravil jsem to podle tohoto návrhu a dojel překlad JOSM na 100% (samozřejmě k dnešku). Chtěl bych požádat všechny, kdo pracují s JOSM v češtině, aby dávali pozor na chyby a neobratné překlady a posílali mi je a já je tam pak opravím. Děkuji, Dalibor Ahoj, skvělá práce, díky moc! Zkusím si dneska stáhnout ty překladový řetězce a projít si je; mám podezření, že minimálně několik procent textů v češtině vzniklo kdysi pouhým zkopírováním ze slovenštiny (což je sice lepší než drátem do voka, ale už několikrát mě to v JOSM zaskočilo). Bohužel se to mnohem hůř hledá než nepřeložený texty, ale na papíře mi to snad půjde líp :) Honza Piškvor Martinec ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
On 12/02/2014 03:15 PM, Marián Kyral wrote: Taky bych občas něco přeložil, ale Lauchpad nemám rád, přesun na Transifex nevyšel a náhradní řešení (JOSM Trac) zatím není a asi ještě dost dlouho nebude. Marián V Launchpadu lze vyžádat export do formátu PO, ten lze poměrně komfortně editovat PoEditem, načež to zas nahraješ zpět. Honza Piškvor Martinec ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech?
Jo. Ale musíš být registrovaný. A to nechci. Nechápu, proč si ten soubor nemůžu stáhnout bez registrace. Po editaci by už to tam třeba někdo nahrál ; -) Mimochodem: aceman444 - to je ten slovák, co nám tam naimplementoval slovenčinu? Nebo jich je tam více? Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Jan Martinec j...@martinec.name Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 2. 12. 2014 15:23:44 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad terminu o mostech? On 12/02/2014 03:15 PM, Marián Kyral wrote: Taky bych občas něco přeložil, ale Lauchpad nemám rád, přesun na Transifex nevyšel a náhradní řešení (JOSM Trac) zatím není a asi ještě dost dlouho nebude. Marián V Launchpadu lze vyžádat export do formátu PO, ten lze poměrně komfortně editovat PoEditem, načež to zas nahraješ zpět. Honza Piškvor Martinec ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Posunutá mapa?
On 2014-12-02, 12:53 GMT, Petr Holub wrote: Nejsem v tomhle uplne kovany a mozna nekdo typu Hanoje bude vedet vice, ale osobne se domnivam, ze hlavni problem souvisi s modelem terenu. Používáme všichni stejnou projekci a datum? To by bylo moc jednoduché, co? Je dnes situace taková, že WGS-84 a GPS projection se používá všude, ne? Používá v Čechách ještě někdo Křováka? Matěj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Evidence a hlášení špatných budov v RÚIAN
Ahoj, jak správně hlásit, pokud je budova rozdělena na více pochybných kousků? Stačí nahlásit jeden, nebo raději všechny? Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Posunutá mapa?
Křováka? jak na co. V projekci vždy křovák (JTSK). JAnD Dne 2. prosince 2014 21:36 Matěj Cepl mc...@cepl.eu napsal(a): On 2014-12-02, 12:53 GMT, Petr Holub wrote: Nejsem v tomhle uplne kovany a mozna nekdo typu Hanoje bude vedet vice, ale osobne se domnivam, ze hlavni problem souvisi s modelem terenu. Používáme všichni stejnou projekci a datum? To by bylo moc jednoduché, co? Je dnes situace taková, že WGS-84 a GPS projection se používá všude, ne? Používá v Čechách ještě někdo Křováka? Matěj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Evidence a hlášení špatných budov v RÚIAN
Ahoj, drobná modifikace do PointInfa. Přidal jsem zobrazování nahlášených problémů na stavebních objektech. Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Posunutá mapa?
Rastrové dlaždice OSM jsou standardně v projekci EPSG:900913 (alias EPSG:3857) což je Spherical Mercator. Rastrové satelitní dlaždice Bing jsou dle mne v této projekci standardně také, ale nepřesně. Ale o tu projekci dle mne úplně nejde. Nekovaný pisatel se dle mne domnívá, že chyba je dána tím, že fotografie z družic jsou transformovány chybně, jelikož Bing nezná přesně reliéf terénu - neví přesně, že tam je takový a makový kopec či tam je údolí... Respektive to ví, ale velmi hrubě. Já také nekovaný se domnívám také, že by to mohla být příčina. Zdraví Marek On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:36:39PM +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: On 2014-12-02, 12:53 GMT, Petr Holub wrote: Nejsem v tomhle uplne kovany a mozna nekdo typu Hanoje bude vedet vice, ale osobne se domnivam, ze hlavni problem souvisi s modelem terenu. Používáme všichni stejnou projekci a datum? To by bylo moc jednoduché, co? Je dnes situace taková, že WGS-84 a GPS projection se používá všude, ne? Používá v Čechách ještě někdo Křováka? Matěj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Evidence a hlášení špatných budov v RÚIAN
Zdravím, jedná se o následující SO: 39549941 (jiná stavba) Vsetín, Kelč, Kelč-Nové Město 45664374 (jiná stavba) Vsetín, Kelč, Kelč-Nové Město 45664382 (jiná stavba) Vsetín, Kelč, Kelč-Nové Město Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Petr Souček souc...@atlas.cz Komu: 'OpenStreetMap Czech Republic' talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 3. 12. 2014 0:11:01 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Evidence a hlášení špatných budov v RÚIAN Dobrý večer, napište mi prosím lokalitu, kouknu se na to. Abych viděl, jak je to přesně evidováno – podle toho také napíšu, jak nejlépe hlásit. Petr Souček From: Marián Kyral [mailto:mky...@email.cz] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:06 PM To: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Evidence a hlášení špatných budov v RÚIAN Ahoj, jak správně hlásit, pokud je budova rozdělena na více pochybných kousků? Stačí nahlásit jeden, nebo raději všechny? Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Couche QA - zones à mapper
En principe elle se met à jour quotidiennement. Tu as un problème sur un coin particulier ? Un permalien our que je regarde ? Le 1 décembre 2014 10:45, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Bonjour, La couche QA - zones à mapper est-elle entretenue, notamment pour les communes dont le cadastre est vectoriel n'ayant pas de batiments ? Les données semblent un peu en retard. JB. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Modèle numérique de terrain (MNT) de la Nasa en pas de 30m, bientôt pour tous le monde
Le 1 décembre 2014 00:55, sly (sylvain letuffe) lis...@letuffe.org a écrit : Faudrait vraiment pouvoir prendre le meilleur des deux ! Il me semble que c'est justement le boulot qui a été fait sur l'EU-DEM, un mix entre SRTM et ASTER... -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Couche QA - zones à mapper
Le 02/12/2014 18:28, Christian Quest a écrit : Tu as un problème sur un coin particulier ? Un permalien our que je regarde ? http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11lat=48.07006lon=4.22328layers=B000TFF Chaource, par exemple, le cadastre vectoriel est disponible. D'autres villages aussi (Cussangy était indiqué non-vectoriel avant que je l'intègre récemment). La superposition QA/Bano permet de voir ce qui est louche (des points adresse - cadastre vectoriel ?). JB. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Couche QA - zones à mapper
On 02 Dec 2014, at 18:37, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11lat=48.07006lon=4.22328layers=B000TFF Pour ceux — comme moi — ne connaissent pas cette couche, la doc est ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Servers/tile.openstreetmap.fr#Couche_.22Zones_.C3.A0_mapper.22 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Servers/tile.openstreetmap.fr#Couche_.22Zones_.C3.A0_mapper.22 La superposition QA/Bano permet de voir ce qui est louche (des points adresse - cadastre vectoriel ?). Tu fais ça avec JOSM ou il existe une page qui permet de superposer les 2 ? (pas de couche Bano sur http://tile.openstreetmap.fr http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/) — Yves ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Couche QA - zones à mapper
Le 02/12/2014 20:06, Yves Pratter a écrit : La superposition QA/Bano permet de voir ce qui est louche (des points adresse - cadastre vectoriel ?). Tu fais ça avec JOSM ou il existe une page qui permet de superposer les 2 ? (pas de couche Bano sur http://tile.openstreetmap.fr) Non, mais il y a l'inverse : QA sur le rendu Bano (mais en fait, je m'en sers pas). JB. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Couche QA - zones à mapper
Effectivement, la mise à jour de la liste des communes au cadastre vectoriel ou image ne se faisait pas automatiquement (la liste actuelle date d'il y a un an). C'est ajouté... et j'ai lancé la mise à jour des zoom 9 à 11 en anticipé... J'ai pensé à fusionner les rendu QA et BANO mais je crains que ça devienne illisible :( Le 2 décembre 2014 20:17, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Le 02/12/2014 20:06, Yves Pratter a écrit : La superposition QA/Bano permet de voir ce qui est louche (des points adresse - cadastre vectoriel ?). Tu fais ça avec JOSM ou il existe une page qui permet de superposer les 2 ? (pas de couche Bano sur http://tile.openstreetmap.fr) Non, mais il y a l'inverse : QA sur le rendu Bano (mais en fait, je m'en sers pas). JB. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Transmusicales : carte interactive
bonjour Jolie carte aquarelle réalisée à l'occasion du Festival TransMusicales de Rennes http://www.rennes.maville.com/sortir/infos_-transmusicales-de-rennes-les-lieux-les-horaires-%5Bcarte-interactive%5D_fil-2670845_actu.Htm Gwen ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre mensuelle OSM-Lyon 09/12/2014 18h30 - Invitation + OdJ
Bonsoir à tous, Les mappeurs OSM de Lyon se rencontrent régulièrement le 2ème mardi de chaque mois, et chacun peut s'inviter et participer à ces rencontres. La prochaine aura lieu : le MARDI 09 DECEMBRE à partir de 18h30 au bistrot CHEZ THIBAULT, 80 rue Montesquieu, 69007 LYON Accès : M° Saxe-Gambetta; C4, C12, C14 Thibaudière ; Vélo'V Jaurès/ Thibaudière. Le CR de la rencontre précédente se trouve sur la page du Wiki-OSM au lien : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lyon/Reunion_18_novembre_2014 Si vous souhaitez mettre un sujet particulier à l'ordre du jour, vous pouvez commenter la page préparatoire de la rencontre à venir au lien : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lyon/Reunion_09_decembre_2014 Venez nombreux ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] 会津若松市のハザードマップにOpenStreetMapが使用されました。
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 01:04:37PM +0900, ikiya wrote: 会津若松市が OpenStreetMap（OSM)の道路及び建物データを使用して、 「家庭用防災カルテ」・「ハザードマップ」を作成しました。（それぞれＡ１サイズ594×841両面印刷） 配布物は http://www.city.aizuwakamatsu.fukushima.jp/docs/2009031200029/ ですね。確かに会津若松あたりは、建物がほぼ入っている感じですね。 ribbon ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSRM-talk] Limitation of number of connection
There aren’t any restrictions per se. If you sent 1200 queries to the demo instance at once, then you may get shut down for excessive usage, though. —Dennis — Want to support OSRM development? Buy us a beer: http://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/1V2TKTFOZIU80 Am 01.12.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Carsten Malchow carsten64st...@gmx.de: Hi List, I try to intigarte OSRM-routed in my Java web service applicaion. I try to send around 1200 request to the machine, but after a while the connection brokes and I get this error: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset . I'm using a HTTPUrlConnection request what is opend and closed for each Connection. Are ther some restriction of request per secound or a Keep Avile value in OSRM? Kind regards Carsten ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
[Talk-us] DC Great Streets Mapping Party: Minnesota Ave - Dec 6th
Hi! We're up to corridor number 3 of 11 in the DC Great Street mapping party series. It is scheduled for Saturday December 6th at 12 PM at the Benning Neighborhood Library. For more information see the Meetup page. http://www.meetup.com/MappingDC/events/218032632/ Pictures from the last mapping party have been posted. For questions, contact Steven Johnson, the event host. He's been great at setting us up with local groups like MOMIES TLC and DC Great Streets. Brian -- http://brian.derocher.org http://mappingdc.org http://about.me/brian.derocher ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Meet the new board - offices elected
Hello everyone - Today we elected the offices of the new 2014/2015 board of OpenStreetMap US, see the resulting new roles here: http://openstreetmap.us/2014/12/board-roles/ -- Alex Barth Vice President OpenStreetMap United States Inc. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meet the new board - offices elected
Paul - On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Previously it was stated that the OSM US conference announcement (SOTM-US) would happen after the new board selected their roles. With the conference announcement happening in November, what happened during the last month? Alyssa's accident just before the elections delayed a decision on roles but not on the SOTM US conference location. Throughout November we've been further focused on getting the SOTM US planning off the ground (more on this and an invitation to join committees soon) and on finalizing our 501c3 application. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-ht] Espas Haiti Comunitere ouvri pòt yo pou Kominote OSM
Bonjou Delphine ; Mwen kontan pou bel travay ki fèt pou remete katografi ak OSM nan an mach anko nan Haiti Communautaire (HC). Mwen pwofite reponn pozitif pou ede ak patisipe men reyinyon ak fomasyon kap posib nan HC,men mwen vle di nou tou ke mwen rete Okap kounya sa vle di fok gen sa pral mande yon ti pale anplis pou konnen kilè nap fè sa. Men apre sa mwen felisite Xavier ki ap travay pou OSM rete vivan an Ayiti. Felisitasyon Delph. On Dec 2, 2014 9:58 AM, Delphine Bedu delphine.b...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjou tout moun, Mwen ta renmen anonse ke espas Haiti Communitere an kounye a ouvè pou tout kominote OSM e kontribitè OSM. Haiti Communitere (HC) se yon espas ki sitye nan Pòtoprens, Clercine 4, ki la pou fasilite patenarya. Li se yon espas ki net e ki la pou tout kominote ki travay nan avansman Ayiti – Nou gen yon ti atelye zouti, yon espas pou reyinyon, yon ti sal odinatè ak akse entènèt epi anpil koneksyon ak òganizasyon ki travay nan ayiti. Kounye a nou gen kek materyel ki disponib pou moun ki fe pratik nan OSM: Kek odinatè e kek GPS. Pandan mwa desanm n’ap lanse yon inisyativ pou fek espas l’ap vini plis itil pou kominote OSM. Gen dè aspe pou inisyativ sa: *Yon atelye teknik:* Nou deja pwograme 2 kou inisyasion ak 2 kominote ki vle itilize OSM pou katografye inisyativ ki pozitiv nan zon yo. Si ou enterese pou óganize yon kou teknik nan nenpòt ki nivo pa ezite fe nou konnen (xapit...@gmail.com oswa delph...@communitere.org). *Yon atelye óganizasyonel* pou mene yon refleksyon sou fiti OSM nan Ayiti e pataje eksperians nou te gen pouk nou toujou avanse. Dat rankont: 5, 6 e 7 desanm nan Haiti Communitere (19 rue pélican, Clercine 4 an fas Jedco, Port au Prince). Tout moun ki enterese pou avansman e óganizasyon OSM nan Ayiti yo envite. Ou ka wè ajanda sou lyen sa: https://hackpad.com/OSM-Ayiti-Atelye-Oganizasyonel-e-Teknik-EgE1JCqSkbJ Nou ka ajoute komantè si gen bagay ki poko sou ajenda nou. Pou tout kesyon o sijesyon, rele'm: voye'm yon imel:delph...@communitere.org Mesi! Delphine ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages.
Re: [Talk-ht] Espas Haiti Comunitere ouvri pòt yo pou Kominote OSM
Bonjou tout moun, Haiti Communitere li isit http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=18.57414mlon=-72.28162#map=18/18.57414/-72.28162 ! Severin 2014-12-02 15:34 GMT+00:00 Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com: Bonjou Delphine ; Mwen kontan pou bel travay ki fèt pou remete katografi ak OSM nan an mach anko nan Haiti Communautaire (HC). Mwen pwofite reponn pozitif pou ede ak patisipe men reyinyon ak fomasyon kap posib nan HC,men mwen vle di nou tou ke mwen rete Okap kounya sa vle di fok gen sa pral mande yon ti pale anplis pou konnen kilè nap fè sa. Men apre sa mwen felisite Xavier ki ap travay pou OSM rete vivan an Ayiti. Felisitasyon Delph. On Dec 2, 2014 9:58 AM, Delphine Bedu delphine.b...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjou tout moun, Mwen ta renmen anonse ke espas Haiti Communitere an kounye a ouvè pou tout kominote OSM e kontribitè OSM. Haiti Communitere (HC) se yon espas ki sitye nan Pòtoprens, Clercine 4, ki la pou fasilite patenarya. Li se yon espas ki net e ki la pou tout kominote ki travay nan avansman Ayiti – Nou gen yon ti atelye zouti, yon espas pou reyinyon, yon ti sal odinatè ak akse entènèt epi anpil koneksyon ak òganizasyon ki travay nan ayiti. Kounye a nou gen kek materyel ki disponib pou moun ki fe pratik nan OSM: Kek odinatè e kek GPS. Pandan mwa desanm n’ap lanse yon inisyativ pou fek espas l’ap vini plis itil pou kominote OSM. Gen dè aspe pou inisyativ sa: *Yon atelye teknik:* Nou deja pwograme 2 kou inisyasion ak 2 kominote ki vle itilize OSM pou katografye inisyativ ki pozitiv nan zon yo. Si ou enterese pou óganize yon kou teknik nan nenpòt ki nivo pa ezite fe nou konnen (xapit...@gmail.com oswa delph...@communitere.org). *Yon atelye óganizasyonel* pou mene yon refleksyon sou fiti OSM nan Ayiti e pataje eksperians nou te gen pouk nou toujou avanse. Dat rankont: 5, 6 e 7 desanm nan Haiti Communitere (19 rue pélican, Clercine 4 an fas Jedco, Port au Prince). Tout moun ki enterese pou avansman e óganizasyon OSM nan Ayiti yo envite. Ou ka wè ajanda sou lyen sa: https://hackpad.com/OSM-Ayiti-Atelye-Oganizasyonel-e-Teknik-EgE1JCqSkbJ Nou ka ajoute komantè si gen bagay ki poko sou ajenda nou. Pou tout kesyon o sijesyon, rele'm: voye'm yon imel:delph...@communitere.org Mesi! Delphine ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate ( http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages.
Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC
2014-12-02 12:55 GMT+01:00 Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com: However, I think the tone of the emails on this list still need to be dealt with. +1, honestly, I finally understand why some people push for a code of conduct. In almost 7 years on OSM mailing lists and conventions I have never encountered anything remotely similar to this thread. cheers, Martin ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC
Thanks for your thoughtful words, Alan. Yes, I and Alyssa are the moderators. I’m afraid I’m still getting caught up. (Haven’t even had coffee yet!) I saw the first couple of e-mails in the thread last night, but no more until this morning, and I’m afraid I don’t know what “other thread” people are referring to. Hopefully everyone can take a deep breath, and step away from the keyboard for a bit. If necessary, I can enforce that by fiat (at least for this list), but I’d rather not have to do that. I agree that “something” needs to be done, but I’m not sure what the right “something” is. I hope you will all forgive me if I take a bit of time this morning to read the stream of emails carefully and think about it (and drink my coffee!). I would welcome off-list comments. Darrell On Dec 2, 2014, at 03:55, Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Tom, Mele, and Kai (in the parallel thread) for your very reasoned and calming words here. Normally I try to keep my mouth shut when things get heated on the mailing lists, since yet another voice usually doesn't help things. But on the other hand, if all of us who are repelled by the tone of the mailing lists keep our mouths shut, then nothing will improve. I will try not to weigh in too much on the content of the debate regarding neurodiversity. I already know a quite a bit about the topic, but I am educating myself further, especially WRT how people with traumatic brain injuries (TBIs) are included (or not) under the umbrella of the neurodivergent. To a lay person, it certainly sounds like people coping with TBIs would be included in a term like neurodiverse or neurodivergent, but as I read up on the topic, it appears that those terms have a clear and specific meaning among the individuals who identify as such, and that this specific meaning does not include TBIs. If I imagine things from the point of view of someone who identifies as neurodivergent, I can understand why that is the case, and I can see how misuse of that term could be offensive. But I think Alyssa's comment was an honest mistake. It's not my job to tell someone else that they shouldn't be offended, and I am wary of going too far into tone policing, but on the other hand the very first point in our proposed CoC is be nice. I wish that Alyssa's well-meaning but incorrect use of the term neurodiverse had been used as a teachable moment to help us make this forum more welcoming, instead of being met with an angry response from Serge that has now alienated many more people than Alyssa's original email did (at least judging from public responses here and on twitter). I hope we can all agree that we want our community to be welcoming to people with TBIs, as well as to the neurodivergent, and we need to figure out the correct terminology to welcome both these groups without offending anyone. Perhaps that's another issue for the CoC? However, I think the tone of the emails on this list still need to be dealt with. If we can't create a welcoming space on this mailing list, then how can we have any hope of success in the rest of OSM? However, I see a few complications dealing with this particular incident: 1. Is this a first offense, or worse? Here I'm speaking both about Alyssa's offensive comment and Serge's excessive response. I'm not a part of the local New York City OSM community, but I am aware that there have been long-running disagreements between Alyssa and Serge, thus making it hard to determine what constitutes a first offense here. In fact, the very first month of this list included a couple of threads regarding some unspecified incident in the NYC community [1]. I don't know enough details, but it seems we are beyond the first offense for one or both parties. 2. Another complication: Randal made a plea to the list administrators to remove Serge from the list because of his email. It appears that Alyssa herself is one of the list administrators, along with Darrell Fuhriman (please correct me if I'm wrong). What do we do in the case where one of the list administrators is one of the people involved in a flame war? Can Alyssa recuse herself from any administrative tasks regarding this event, so we can be sure that any decisions (such as formal warnings or ejection from the list) are made as impartially as possible by Darrell only? I think it's important we (as a list) handle this as transparently and impersonally as possible. Alan [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/diversity-talk/2013-June/ ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness
Darrell, without going into the specifics of this case, there's one bit in your message that had a bad taste for me. What you have essentially done is elevate Serge's message to almost extreme violation status because you've decided to sanction immediately, rather than just going through the usual procedure. Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident. Which, in essence, means nothing less than people having emailed you in private and influenced your decision by telling you bad things about Serge. I've been on the unpleasant end of moderation myself and I can tell you that there's few things more hurtful than having a secret court against you in which some people get the chance to whisper something in the moderator's ear, and the moderator ends up partly justifying their decision by what he's been told. Lurkers support me in email is a common theme on mailing lists, and it is incredibly easy to succumb to this but a moderator especially should not. If accusations cannot be in plain view (anonymised by the moderator if absolutely necessary) then they should also not be used to build a case against someone. Just like in a proper legal process, the accused has to have a chance to see what accusations are leveled against them, rather than just: Emails have been sent by an undisclosed number of unnamed people which paint the picture of the accused being a repeat offender. (Had I known that you were soliciting email comments about Serge's character, who knows, I might have sent one in his favour?) The absolute least you should have done is say something like how many private responses you have had from how many people and what they said, roughly. Else you're not only blocking someone from participating for 60 days, but you're also giving them the nagging feeling that there's an undefined mob (2 people? 5? 10? 50?) out there who are happy to secretly email everyone about an alleged pattern of behaviour. And what recourse is there against rumours? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness
On 12/2/2014 3:22 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident. Which, in essence, means nothing less than people having emailed you in private and influenced your decision by telling you bad things about Serge. I've been on the unpleasant end of moderation myself and I can tell you that there's few things more hurtful than having a secret court against you in which some people get the chance to whisper something in the moderator's ear, and the moderator ends up partly justifying their decision by what he's been told. Given that this decision involves an outcome far exceeding previous precedents[1] based on allegations he was not given a chance to respond to and involved activities outside the scope of the OSMF, I would strongly encourage Serge to raise the moderator action to the appropriate body as unreasonable. The appropriate body is probably the CWG. It should also be noted that moderator action cannot be justified as enforcing a code of conduct when that code of conduct has not been adopted with the consensus of the list, list-wide consensus, a directive from a WG responsible, or a board decision. A moderator could use such a code of conduct as a guide to coming to a decision, but the decision must be justified in of itself. ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness
+1 what Frederik said. Thanks, saved me some typing there. We seem to have calmed down, I thought Mele had some very helpful advice. We can all help to drag up the baseline of civility after this painfully illustrative incident. To me this looks like a pre-emptive attempt at a decision which there would be absolutely no shame in retracting while there is work in progress. On Dec 2, 2014 11:22 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Darrell, without going into the specifics of this case, there's one bit in your message that had a bad taste for me. What you have essentially done is elevate Serge's message to almost extreme violation status because you've decided to sanction immediately, rather than just going through the usual procedure. Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident. Which, in essence, means nothing less than people having emailed you in private and influenced your decision by telling you bad things about Serge. I've been on the unpleasant end of moderation myself and I can tell you that there's few things more hurtful than having a secret court against you in which some people get the chance to whisper something in the moderator's ear, and the moderator ends up partly justifying their decision by what he's been told. Lurkers support me in email is a common theme on mailing lists, and it is incredibly easy to succumb to this but a moderator especially should not. If accusations cannot be in plain view (anonymised by the moderator if absolutely necessary) then they should also not be used to build a case against someone. Just like in a proper legal process, the accused has to have a chance to see what accusations are leveled against them, rather than just: Emails have been sent by an undisclosed number of unnamed people which paint the picture of the accused being a repeat offender. (Had I known that you were soliciting email comments about Serge's character, who knows, I might have sent one in his favour?) The absolute least you should have done is say something like how many private responses you have had from how many people and what they said, roughly. Else you're not only blocking someone from participating for 60 days, but you're also giving them the nagging feeling that there's an undefined mob (2 people? 5? 10? 50?) out there who are happy to secretly email everyone about an alleged pattern of behaviour. And what recourse is there against rumours? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness
On 12/2/2014 5:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Am I to understand that felt Serge's comments were acceptable behavior? I was expecting to find that you at least didn't condone it. but sadly no where did you say Serge's comments were unacceptable. No where did I say that his comments were acceptable or unacceptable. A more appropriate response would have been to enable moderation for both participants and perhaps the list, and then to let posts through after review. Darrell even offered a process for Serge to appeal his decision. It's worth noting that there already exists ways of appealing moderator decisions, though they have been seldom used in the past as few past decisions have overstepped their bounds. ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
