date:20160531

Manila's administrative and legislative districts boundaries were mapped
because the data or information about them is available.

Manila's administrative districts are defined by law in R.A. 409, which is
the Revised Charter of the City of Manila. For example, here's the
description of the boundary of the district of Quiapo:

Beginning at the intersection of the center lines of Calle Azcarraga and
> Estero de Quiapo; thence along the center lines of Calle Azcarraga, Legarda
> and E. Mendiola, Estero de San Miguel, the Pasig River, Puente Colgante,
> Calles Norzagaray and Regidor, and Estero de Quiapo, to the point of
> beginning.
>

It's then just a simple matter of determining which modern streets
correspond to which old street name (Calle Azcarraga is C.M. Recto Avenue,
while Puente Colgante is now Quezon Bridge, etc.)

Manila's legislative districts are defined in the Ordinance section of the
1987 Philippine Constitution. For example, here's the description of the
boundary of the 5th district:

Barangays Nos. 649-828 N - Mouth of Pasig River inland to point Paz M.
> Guanzon Street extending to Estero de Pandacan; NE - Estero de Pandacan up
> to Pedro Gil Street to Tejeron Street up to boundary of Manila and Makati;
> SE - City boundary between Manila and Makati up to Estero de Tripa de
> Gallina; S - City boundary between Pasay and Manila down to Roxas Boulevard
> up to edge of reclaimed areas westward to Manila Bay; W - Manila Bay up to
> mouth of Pasig River.
>

~Eugene



> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jherome Miguel 
> wrote:
>
>> As a side note, Manila's districts are not obviously marked (possibly the
>> same as the case of Quezzn City), but official boundaries assigned by the
>> City of Manila has been mapped (the districts of Manila are officially
>> designated). Possibly those district boundaries are mapped based on
>> physical features and place addresses.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries
>>> of barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>>>
>>> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped.
>>> Also, some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
>>> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>>>
>>> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
>>> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
>>> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
>>> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
>>> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
>>> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
>>> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
>>> rest.
>>>
>>> Hope this advice helps.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
 tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
 districts.

 On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel <
 jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for 
> those
> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
> area)?
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You should have taken a picture of that map! :)

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Erwin Olario  wrote:

>
> It could be based on barangay membership to a district, I remeber
> encountering some map from city hall about that a few years back.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:48 PM Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>> districts.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>> area)?
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On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> As a side note, Manila's districts are not obviously marked (possibly the
> same as the case of Quezzn City), but official boundaries assigned by the
> City of Manila has been mapped (the districts of Manila are officially
> designated). Possibly those district boundaries are mapped based on
> physical features and place addresses.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel 
> wrote:
>
>> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries
>> of barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>>
>> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped. Also,
>> some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
>> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>>
>> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
>> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
>> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
>> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
>> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
>> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
>> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
>> rest.
>>
>> Hope this advice helps.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>>> districts.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel >> > wrote:
>>>
 Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
 every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
 although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
 districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
 Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
 Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
 Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
 area)?

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On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> I created the Cubao boundary by extrapolating some data from boundaries of
> barangays that may possibly form part of Cubao.
>
> Although "general areas", the approximate boundaries can be mapped. Also,
> some barangays are inside a certain district, and a ground survey on
> addresses of places on those barangays can be used to verify them.
>
> A few can be defined by surrounding streets (e.g. Santa Mesa Heights
> district boundaries are formed by its surrounding roads,like Quezon Avenue,
> Araneta Avenue, Del Monte Avenue, and Mayon Avenue). and water bodies like
> rivers, or both (Diliman looks like to be one example. The Diliman Creek
> forms one part of the approximate boundary, while roads, like Katipunan
> Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue, North Avenue, West Avenue, a part of Quezon
> Avenue, Don A. Roces Avenue, and a portion of Tomas Morato Avenue forms the
> rest.
>
> Hope this advice helps.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if QC's districts have ever been defined. As far as I can
>> tell, they are general areas and there is no hard line delineating these
>> districts.
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jherome Miguel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quezon City's political map on OpenStreetMap is mostly complete, with
>>> every barangay mapped, but the district boundaries are still missing,
>>> although district nodes are already added. I started to add nodes for those
>>> districts, like Novaliches, New Manila, Santa Mesa Heights, Diliman, and
>>> Balintawak, but district boundaries are still undefined. Can someone map
>>> Quezon City's district boundaries, while I'll add the others, like the
>>> Project areas La Loma, and Bago Bantay (possibly the same as the "Munoz"
>>> area)?
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Manila barangays and barangay zones

Hi Jherome,

Do you have any good source for the barangays and zones of Manila? Please
note that GADM (and PhilGIS, which is derived from GADM), which is the
go-to source for barangays boundaries in the Philippines is not good enough
for OSM for 2 reasons:

1. The license of GADM does not allow commercial use. This is not allowed
to be added to OSM.
2. The data for barangays is bad. You can see a comparison here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GADM_vs_OSM_-_Northern_Caloocan.png

We in OSM have not yet added all Manila barangay and zone boundaries not
because we are lazy, but because accurate barangay data that is OK for use
for OSM is not available.

~Eugene

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> Manila's map on barangay nodes/boundaries and barangay zone boundaries
> are still not added. While Manila's legislative and administrative
> districts are mapped, barangay and barangay zones are still incomplete
> or not mapped at all. I added barangays on Quiapo, but it is still
> few. Someone may help on adding those barangay nodes/boundaries and
> barangay zone boundaries.
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Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Warin


On 6/1/2016 7:18 AM, Richard wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:01:07PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard :


often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge
or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more
trouble than use and I tend to agree.


If you and they don't 'like' them .. don't enter them and don't render them.
There are a few things in OSM that I have no interest in .. but I don't 
advocate there demotion.



I disagree. Either there is a bridge / culvert in reality, and in this case
why wouldn't we want it in OSM, or there isn't and then it is a simple
error waiting to be corrected.

so what do you do if you drove along a track know there is not a single
ford but don't have enough information to know whether there is
a bridge or culvert in most places? There are some notable bridges but
everything that is notable probably deserves at least a man_made=bridge
anyway while the rest ist just I don't get wet feet here.


If you don't know if there are bridges/culverts then you don't map them ...


Which trouble do these elements cause? I realize they make it harder to
apply modifications to long (i.e. probably more pieces) ways, but on the
other hand, casual mistakes also don't extend very far.

I have seen many examples of culverts applied to the wrong segment
of the way.. theese seem to go easily unnoticed for long periods of
time.



Any entry is prone to error. Even ford=no!
Introducing a new tag/value just introduces more possible errors if you want to 
look at it that way.
You are looking for a solution to a problem, but your proposed solution just 
adds yet another potential problem.




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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali

Ciao,

Il 31 maggio 2016 23:28, Paolo Monegato  ha scritto:
> Forse voleva sapere quanti sono, tra quei 391, quelli iscritti per via di
> OSM o che, quantomeno, operano su OSM (se non ricordo male ad OSMit l'aveva
> chiesto).

Formalmente da statuto e praticamente non ci sono distinzioni tra soci
"OSM" o soci "Wikipedia".

Anche perché, detto molto sinceramente e chiaramente, dei circa 400
soci attuali non tutti sono attivi. Alcune persone si iscrivono solo
per supporto "generico" all'idea della conoscenza libera in tutte le
sue forme (che poi è il fulcro dell'associazione[1]) e non partecipano
alle attività dell'associazione.

Per darvi qualche numero, nella lista soci di nell'ultimo anno - cioè
dal 01/06/2015 ad oggi 31/12/2016 - sono state inviate 2821 mail,
circa 8 mail/giorno. Queste mail sono state mandate da 90 persone
distinte (poco meno del 25% dei soci). Questi possiamo considerarli i
"soci attivi" dell'associazione. Guardando la lista degli indirizzi
mail e andando un po' a occhio, direi che ~ 10 persone sono mappatori
e/o persone attive anche su questa lista.

Quando abbiamo fatto la "chiamata alle armi" per il capitolo avevamo
raccolto 20 persone.  Non so quanti siano i soci di Wikimedia/OSM
Italia che conoscono/usano/contribuiscono a OSM, ma che non
partecipano alla lista soci.

Ciao,

C

[1] 
http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Statuto#Articolo_3_-_Finalit.C3.A0_e_attivit.C3.A0

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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Mikel Maron

Thanks -- yes appreciate the heads up on the issue, and please give us a few 
days to get this fixed. Mapbox takes attribution very seriously, and has 
relationships with the relevant customers to get this addressed.
And by the way, working on setting up a contact point where attribution issues 
on Mapbox hosted maps can be directly reported. 
-Mikel
 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:03 PM, Milo van der Linden  
wrote:
 
 

 I agree, as we are on "speaking terms"  with mapbox, it seems to me that we 
can easily fix this like gentlemen.
Kind regards,
Milo
2016-05-31 22:35 GMT+02:00 Benoît Barteaux :

  They don't seem to cut the image, as the problem seems to come from mapbox 
directly. I think that sending now a copyright notice to BK/mapbox would seem a 
bit premature and upfront. Give them time for the email to travel to the right 
person and to think/react for a bit. After some time then, maybe. Cheers, Benoit
  
 On 31/05/16 22:16, Clifford Snow wrote:
  
 Mikel, I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off 
attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for something 
like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a copyright takedown 
to AWS. 
  
   
 On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
 
   Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution issue 
at Mapbox.   * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron   
 
  On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden 
 wrote:
  
 
 
Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox: 
  
http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png
  
  So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the 
static image api.  
 2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow :
 
  I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name was 
entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search and  
found that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was their 
map [2] was identical to OSM.  
  I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they 
comply with our terms of use.  
  Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?  
  [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650 [2] 
http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html 
  On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name. 
First time user with MAPS.ME.  
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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali

Ciao,

Il 24 maggio 2016 19:38, Aury88  ha scritto:
> scusate la manifesta ignoranza...io sono socio wikimedia...significa che
> sono socio del capitolo o devo anche diventare socio di openstreetmap
> foundation? questa cosa non mi è chiara...
> ora che osm si è unito a wikimedia a livello italiano il diventare soci di
> una delle due organizzazioni significa diventare automaticamente socio anche
> dell'altra?

No, le due entità sono separate (una è una associazione italiana e
l'altra una fondazione UK) e non avrebbe molto senso creare
automatismi di questo genere (anche perché se i soci di Wikimedia/OSM
Italia diventassero automaticamente soci di OSMF credo che il numero
di soci triplicherebbe... mi sembra che i soci di OSMF siano intorno a
200).

> e poi, prima con la quota di iscrizione si finanziava il progetto a cui ci
> si associava,

prima quando? Se intendi dire l'anno scorso il fatto di chiedere se ci
si iscriveva per OSM serviva a capire se c'era un nucleo di persone
interessato a formare il capitolo.

> adesso come funziona la ripartizione dei fondi (se c'è) nel
> caso l'iscrizione valga per entrambi i progetti?
>
> la cosa non mi è chiara...non ho trovato scritto nulla al riguardo ma forse
> non ho cercato bene...penso sia un punto da chiarire meglio ;-)

Qui trovi i bilancio preventivo (e i consuntivi degli anni passati):
http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Bilanci

Questo è il "piano delle attività" per il 2015-2016:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piano_strategico_2015-2016_-_Wikimedia_Italia.pdf

come indicavo nell'altro thread sabato 11 giugno ci sarà una riunione
per discutere delle attività future. Siete invitati a partecipare.

Ciao,

Cristian

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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali


Il 31/05/2016 23:20, Cristian Consonni ha scritto:

Ciao,

Il 24 maggio 2016 16:24, Luca Delucchi  ha scritto:

già che è uscito l'argomento, quanti sono gli attuali soci del capitolo?

Al 31/12/2015 i soci erano 391 (fonte:[1])

Ciao,

C
[1] http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Chi_siamo


Forse voleva sapere quanti sono, tra quei 391, quelli iscritti per via 
di OSM o che, quantomeno, operano su OSM (se non ricordo male ad OSMit 
l'aveva chiesto).


ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali

Ciao,

Il 24 maggio 2016 16:24, Luca Delucchi  ha scritto:
> già che è uscito l'argomento, quanti sono gli attuali soci del capitolo?

Al 31/12/2015 i soci erano 391 (fonte:[1])

Ciao,

C
[1] http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Chi_siamo

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Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:01:07PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard :
> 
> > often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge
> > or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more
> > trouble than use and I tend to agree.
> >
> 
> 
> I disagree. Either there is a bridge / culvert in reality, and in this case
> why wouldn't we want it in OSM, or there isn't and then it is a simple
> error waiting to be corrected.

so what do you do if you drove along a track know there is not a single 
ford but don't have enough information to know whether there is
a bridge or culvert in most places? There are some notable bridges but
everything that is notable probably deserves at least a man_made=bridge
anyway while the rest ist just I don't get wet feet here.

> Which trouble do these elements cause? I realize they make it harder to
> apply modifications to long (i.e. probably more pieces) ways, but on the
> other hand, casual mistakes also don't extend very far.

I have seen many examples of culverts applied to the wrong segment
of the way.. theese seem to go easily unnoticed for long periods of 
time.

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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

2016-05-31 Per discussione Croce Domenico

C'è un tag che prevede l'inserimento del nome...era nella guida che misi
qualche email dietro. Ho comunque notato che per diversi livelli di zoom in
altri parchi il nome è visibile...in altri no
Il 31 Mag 2016 22:49, "Giuseppe Cillis"  ha scritto:

> Ottimo :)
> Ultima domanda : come mai non si visualizza il nome su Osm come nel caso
> degli altri parchi?
>
> Inviato da iPhone
>
> > Il giorno 31/mag/2016, alle ore 22:44, Federico Cortese <
> cortese...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > 2016-05-31 22:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese :
> >> 2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
> >>> Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da
> ridurre i nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di
> non aver commesso troppi errori ...
> >>
> >> Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
> >> creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.
> >
> > Ok se è questo è proprio quello che intendevo :)
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6274746
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Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:13:36AM -0700, Ben Discoe wrote:
> FWIW, I simply set the following key mapping in JOSM:
> 
> Shift-D: add bridge=yes, layer=1
> Shift-C: add tunnel=culvert, layer=-1

nice.. but still need to select or add two nodes, split the
ways, and select the correct segment before hitting s-d/s-c.

I found plenty of places where people have done everything
correctly but accidentally applied the bridge/culvert/layer
to the wrong way segment or one of the nodes - any way to 
automate that even more?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Milo van der Linden

I agree, as we are on "speaking terms"  with mapbox, it seems to me that we
can easily fix this like gentlemen.

Kind regards,

Milo

2016-05-31 22:35 GMT+02:00 Benoît Barteaux :

> They don't seem to cut the image, as the problem seems to come from mapbox
> directly.
>
> I think that sending now a copyright notice to BK/mapbox would seem a bit
> premature and upfront. Give them time for the email to travel to the right
> person and to think/react for a bit. After some time then, maybe.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Benoit
>
> On 31/05/16 22:16, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> Mikel,
> I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off
> attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for
> something like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a
> copyright takedown to AWS.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution
>> issue at Mapbox.
>>
>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:
>>
>>
>> http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png
>> 
>>
>> So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the
>> static image api.
>>
>> 2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow < 
>> cliff...@snowandsnow.us>:
>>
>> I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name
>> was entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search
>> and found that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was
>> their map [2] was identical to OSM.
>>
>> I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they
>> comply with our terms of use.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650
>> [2]
>> 
>> http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html
>>
>> On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name.
>> First time user with MAPS.ME .
>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

2016-05-31 Per discussione girarsi_liste

Il 31/05/2016 22:43, Giuseppe Cillis ha scritto:
> Ottimo :)
> Ultima domanda : come mai non si visualizza il nome su Osm come nel caso 
> degli altri parchi?
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
>> Il giorno 31/mag/2016, alle ore 22:44, Federico Cortese 
>>  ha scritto:
>>
>> 2016-05-31 22:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese :
>>> 2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
 Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre 
 i nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
 commesso troppi errori ...
>>>
>>> Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
>>> creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.
>>
>> Ok se è questo è proprio quello che intendevo :)
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6274746
>>

Ci sarebbe anche da inserire il wikidata:

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1325310


Chiedo, cosa significa il tag allocation:it=Porzione dell'Appenino lucano?


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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

Ottimo :)
Ultima domanda : come mai non si visualizza il nome su Osm come nel caso degli 
altri parchi?

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 31/mag/2016, alle ore 22:44, Federico Cortese 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> 2016-05-31 22:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese :
>> 2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
>>> Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre 
>>> i nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
>>> commesso troppi errori ...
>> 
>> Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
>> creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.
> 
> Ok se è questo è proprio quello che intendevo :)
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6274746
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

Grazie per i suggerimenti, 
Potete verificare voi stessi se la mia procedura è corretta.
E si purtroppo più di tanto i vertici non si possono semplificare perché , come 
potete vedere voi stessi, la Perimetrazione del parco è stata fatta in modo 
"artistico" per così dire
Giuseppe

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> Il giorno 31/mag/2016, alle ore 22:40, Federico Cortese 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> 2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
>> Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre i 
>> nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
>> commesso troppi errori ...
> 
> Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
> creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.
> Ciao
> Federico
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

2016-05-31 22:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese :
> 2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
>> Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre i 
>> nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
>> commesso troppi errori ...
>
> Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
> creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.

Ok se è questo è proprio quello che intendevo :)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6274746

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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali


Il 31/05/2016 22:31, Matteo Zaffonato ha scritto:

On 5/25/16, Paolo Monegato  wrote:

Ok (basta che diventi socio WMI giusto? o deve specificare che è socio
per OSM Italia?). Segnalerò (magari è la volta buona che mi iscrivo
anch'io).

Volevo iscrivermi questo fine settimana, basta solo il versamento o
devo specificare qualcosa di particolare nella causale del versamento?

Ciao, grazie
Matteo



Dovrebbe bastare il versamento. Non credo proprio sia necessaria una 
causale particolare... So che all'inizio serviva scrivere che ci si 
iscriveva per OSM così da convincere da una parte WMI ad iniziare la 
procedura per diventare local chapter e dall'altra per convincere OSMF 
che WMI era effettivamente rappresentante della comunità. Ma adesso che 
è fatto tutto non credo proprio che serva specificare alcunché.

Comunque prova a vedere qua: http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Iscrizioni

ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

2016-05-31 22:01 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :
> Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre i 
> nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
> commesso troppi errori ...

Più che assegnare gli stessi tag a tutti i pezzi, secondo me andrebbe
creato un multipoligono ed assegnati i tag alla relazione.
Ciao
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Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani turistickych tras - prazdne ctverce

2016-05-31 Per discussione Petr Vozdecký

omluva, samozrejme jsem myslel Done

vop


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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani turistickych tras - prazdne ctverce

"Dne 31.5.2016 v 19:25 Petr Vozdecký napsal(a):
> Ve zvalidovanych ctvercich jsou chyby zrejme casto uz na pohled.

Myslis ve ctvercich oznacenych jako Done? To souhlasim. Ale ve 
zvalidovanych (stav Validate) jsem nenasel (tusim) problem ani jednou.

Mirek

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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Benoît Barteaux

They don't seem to cut the image, as the problem seems to come from
mapbox directly.

I think that sending now a copyright notice to BK/mapbox would seem a
bit premature and upfront. Give them time for the email to travel to the
right person and to think/react for a bit. After some time then, maybe.

Cheers,

Benoit

On 31/05/16 22:16, Clifford Snow wrote:

Mikel,
I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off
attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for
something like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a
copyright takedown to AWS.

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron > wrote:

Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this
attribution issue at Mapbox.
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden
> wrote:

Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:

http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png

So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not
visible in the static image api.

2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow
>:

I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in
Spokane, WA. The name was entered as BK. Assuming it was
probably a Burger King, I did a search and found that it
was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was
their map [2] was identical to OSM.

I sent a message via their contact me link on the page
asking that they comply with our terms of use.

Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650
[2]

http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html

On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to
verify the name. First time user with MAPS.ME
.

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Re: [Talk-it] discutibili cancellazioni, modifiche ed integrazioni


Il 31/05/2016 12:33, Andrea Albani ha scritto:
rivisitare in modo pesante anche tecnicamente l'infrastruttura OSM. Ad 
esempio oggi le API accettano modifiche da chiunque sia registrato ed 
autenticato. Nell'ipotesi che hai citato dovrebbero "congelare" il 
changeset in attesa che tutti gli interessati (i creatori dei 
nodi/way/relation nella versione precedente a quella caricata) si 
esprimano dando il loro benestare. Esempio di risvolto pratico: se nel 
frattempo qualcun altro in zona vuole fare modifiche a oggetti che 
condividono i nodi del changeset in attesa  di validazione devono 
quindi attendere che il processo finisca?


Senza poi considerare che magari il primo autore potrebbe aver mollato 
il progetto e non rispondere (potrebbe anche non essere più in grado di 
rispondere)...

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Re: [Talk-it] Coordinatori regionali

2016-05-31 Per discussione Matteo Zaffonato

On 5/25/16, Paolo Monegato  wrote:
> Ok (basta che diventi socio WMI giusto? o deve specificare che è socio
> per OSM Italia?). Segnalerò (magari è la volta buona che mi iscrivo
> anch'io).

Volevo iscrivermi questo fine settimana, basta solo il versamento o
devo specificare qualcosa di particolare nella causale del versamento?

Ciao, grazie
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese


Il 31/05/2016 21:46, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:


sent from a phone


Il giorno 31 mag 2016, alle ore 20:28, Giuseppe Cillis  ha 
scritto:

Ho provato a caricare i confini ma ora il mio problema è l'impossibilità di 
creare linee con più di 2000 nodi. Ho semplificato il tutto con il plugin 
Specifico ma sono sceso max a 5000nodi...

non conviene modificare le geometrie con un algoritmo, dovresti semplicemente 
spezzare il contorno in più pezzi.


Mah, solitamente nei file shape è facile trovare punti in sovrannumero. 
Imho, settando opportunamente il plugin, intervenire togliendo i nodi 
inutili non è un male.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re: Test accès BD Ortho depuis JOSM...

2016-05-31 Per discussione Gnrc

Bonjour,
Sur la région Lyonnaise les zoom <15 sont assez actuels, par contre a de plus 
forts grossissement les images datent d'environ 5 ans au moins. J'ai juste 
vérifié cela dans la banlieue sud-ouest de Lyon.
Bon tagging ou développement a tous.
Gnrc69

Le 31 mai 2016 21:34, Landry Breuil  a écrit :
>
> 2016-05-29 10:44 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Dumoulin :
> > Le Fri, 27 May 2016 18:09:44 +0200,
> > Christian Quest  a écrit :
> >> Voilà, j'ai mis en place un proxy pour tester l'accès à la BD Ortho
> >> suite à la signature de la convention avec l'IGN vendredi dernier
> >> (déjà une semaine !).
> >
> > Merci Christian pour la réactivité !
> >
> > Dans le 63, l'imagerie du CRAIG
> > reste meilleure : meilleure résolution et prise à midi.
> > Y a pas photo :-)
>
> J'allais dire.. "mais c'est pas possible, c'est la même..." mais en
> fait j'ai l'impression que l'IGN a uniquement intégré notre ortho
> départementale à 25cm, et fait l'impasse sur les orthos à 10cm sur les
> agglomérations, ce qui pourrait expliquer la différence que tu vois..
> vu que ca a donné lieu à des vols différents (sur la même période
> d'été 2013).
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Gnrc

L'apparition dans le menu fichier de JOSM de l'option "telecharger a partir 
d'une requete overpass" est effective lorsqu'on a activé l'option "mode avancé" 
dans les preferences de josm.

Le 31 mai 2016 13:55, Quentin  a écrit :
>
> Bonjour,
> je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
> données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
> des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
> merci bien.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Clifford Snow

OK - Sent message to Burger King's legal department. Let's see what happens.



On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Mikel,
> I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off
> attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for
> something like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a
> copyright takedown to AWS.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution
>> issue at Mapbox.
>>
>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:
>>
>>
>> http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png
>>
>> So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the
>> static image api.
>>
>> 2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow :
>>
>> I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name
>> was entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search
>> and found that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was
>> their map [2] was identical to OSM.
>>
>> I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they
>> comply with our terms of use.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?
>>
>> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650
>> [2]
>> http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html
>>
>> On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name.
>> First time user with MAPS.ME .
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Nicolás Alvarez

Don't rush it. Give Mapbox time to handle it from their side.

And I don't see how AWS is involved, the image is coming from
api.tiles.mapbox.com...

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2016-05-31 17:16 GMT-03:00 Clifford Snow :

> Mikel,
> I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off
> attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for
> something like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a
> copyright takedown to AWS.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution
>> issue at Mapbox.
>>
>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:
>>
>>
>> http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png
>>
>> So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the
>> static image api.
>>
>> 2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow :
>>
>> I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name
>> was entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search
>> and found that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was
>> their map [2] was identical to OSM.
>>
>> I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they
>> comply with our terms of use.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?
>>
>> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650
>> [2]
>> http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html
>>
>> On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name.
>> First time user with MAPS.ME .
>>
>> Clifford
>>
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[Talk-dk] Fejlagtige adresse noder

2016-05-31 Per discussione Carsten Nielsen

Der er i området http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/54.91863/9.77535=N nogle 
noter på forkerte adresse noder og jeg er enig i at der er et problem.


Da der er nogle der kører nogle automatiske adresse import scripts engang imellem har jeg 
opgivet at hjælpe med adresser, men er der ikke nogen med indsigt i adresse import 
scriptet som kan få ordnet de forkerte adresse noder.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Clifford Snow

Mikel,
I wonder if they just crop the image for the website, cutting off
attribution? They haven't replied to me, so I am going to look for
something like a legal contact at Burger King. Though we could issue a
copyright takedown to AWS.



On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:

> Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution
> issue at Mapbox.
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:
>
>
> http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png
>
> So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the
> static image api.
>
> 2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow :
>
> I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name
> was entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search
> and found that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was
> their map [2] was identical to OSM.
>
> I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they
> comply with our terms of use.
>
> Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before?
>
> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650
> [2]
> http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html
>
> On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name.
> First time user with MAPS.ME .
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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

Ok. Io ho preso il confine è l'ho diviso in tanti percorsi così da ridurre i 
nodi; a tutti i percorsi ho assegnato i medesimi tag. Spero di non aver 
commesso troppi errori ...
Ho verificato parte delle linee guida e penso di aver seguito le "regole" !
Grazie 
Giuseppe

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 31/mag/2016, alle ore 21:46, Martin Koppenhoefer 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> 
> 
> sent from a phone
> 
>> Il giorno 31 mag 2016, alle ore 20:28, Giuseppe Cillis  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>> Ho provato a caricare i confini ma ora il mio problema è l'impossibilità di 
>> creare linee con più di 2000 nodi. Ho semplificato il tutto con il plugin 
>> Specifico ma sono sceso max a 5000nodi...
> 
> 
> 
> non conviene modificare le geometrie con un algoritmo, dovresti semplicemente 
> spezzare il contorno in più pezzi. Comunque, trattandosi di un import, devi 
> seguire le linee guida: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Import/Guidelines
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sent from a phone

> Il giorno 31 mag 2016, alle ore 20:28, Giuseppe Cillis  
> ha scritto:
> 
> Ho provato a caricare i confini ma ora il mio problema è l'impossibilità di 
> creare linee con più di 2000 nodi. Ho semplificato il tutto con il plugin 
> Specifico ma sono sceso max a 5000nodi...



non conviene modificare le geometrie con un algoritmo, dovresti semplicemente 
spezzare il contorno in più pezzi. Comunque, trattandosi di un import, devi 
seguire le linee guida: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Import/Guidelines

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[Talk-it] Fwd: [wikimedia-it] 11 giugno: una giornata per parlare di strategia

Ciao,

vi inoltro questa mail dalla lista soci di Wikimedia Italia da parte
del presidente.
Come si dice sotto, ci vediamo a Milano l'11 giugno a BASE.

Se volete potete segnarvi qua:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Strategia_WMI_giugno_2016

Ciao,

Cristian


-- Messaggio inoltrato --
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Date: 25 maggio 2016 15:48
Oggetto: [wikimedia-it] 11 giugno: una giornata per parlare di strategia


TL;DR: sabato 11 giugno, a Milano, parliamo della strategia futura di
WMI: venite! Dettagli in arrivo nei prossimi giorni.

Stiamo partendo con il (lungo) percorso che porterà alla strategia e
alla pianificazione per i prossimi anni. All'interno di questo, stiamo
organizzando un incontro per sabato 11 giugno (a Milano, in sede).
L'obiettivo è parlare assieme degli argomenti e delle decisioni che
guideranno il futuro dell'associazione, sia pensando alle attività che
facciamo che al modo in cui le facciamo.

In un certo senso, questo è quello che vorrei vedere in un'assemblea, ma
le assemblee sono sempre piene di cose da approvare o di cui per un
motivo o per l'altro dobbiamo parlare, e non riusciamo mai a trovare
tempo per avere una discussione seria e ampia.
Questa non è un'assemblea, e quindi non abbiamo tutta la parte
burocratica (delibere, regolamenti, elezioni), e non ci saranno (o
saranno limitate) le presentazioni, ma ci sarà spazio per discutere
(anche in sottogruppi).

Stiamo ancora definendo sia la struttura della giornata che, in
generale, il percorso dei prossimi mesi. Conto di scrivere una mail più
ampia e dettagliata (ma comunque probabilmente incompleta!) nei prossimi
giorni, ma se aspettassi di sapere tutto per scrivervi si arriverebbe
troppo tardi (già adesso siamo a 2-3 settimane di distanza).

Il giorno è sabato 11 giugno, a Milano, in sede. Non è la data ideale,
ma è la migliore fra le possibilità disponibili.
L'incontro durerà tutta la giornata, ma non partiremo prestissimo la
mattina.
È solo un passaggio in un percorso, e chi non verrà avrà altri modi di
partecipare - ma la vostra presenza è importante!

Lorenzo


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Test accès BD Ortho depuis JOSM...

2016-05-31 Per discussione Landry Breuil

2016-05-29 10:44 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Dumoulin :
> Le Fri, 27 May 2016 18:09:44 +0200,
> Christian Quest  a écrit :
>> Voilà, j'ai mis en place un proxy pour tester l'accès à la BD Ortho
>> suite à la signature de la convention avec l'IGN vendredi dernier
>> (déjà une semaine !).
>
> Merci Christian pour la réactivité !
>
> Dans le 63, l'imagerie du CRAIG
> reste meilleure : meilleure résolution et prise à midi.
> Y a pas photo :-)

J'allais dire.. "mais c'est pas possible, c'est la même..." mais en
fait j'ai l'impression que l'IGN a uniquement intégré notre ortho
départementale à 25cm, et fait l'impasse sur les orthos à 10cm sur les
agglomérations, ce qui pourrait expliquer la différence que tu vois..
vu que ca a donné lieu à des vols différents (sur la même période
d'été 2013).



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Re: [Talk-it] Confini Parco Nazionale Appennino Lucano Val D'Agri Lagonegrese

Salve!
Ho provato a caricare i confini ma ora il mio problema è l'impossibilità di 
creare linee con più di 2000 nodi. Ho semplificato il tutto con il plugin 
Specifico ma sono sceso max a 5000nodi... Ho provato ad tagliare in diverse 
linee il parco ma adesso non so' come metterle insieme.
Come faccio a correggere questa cosa ?
Grazie
Giuseppe 

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> Il giorno 27/mag/2016, alle ore 11:52, Aury88  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> dieterdreist wrote
>> questo schema (protected_area) è più nuovo e non ancora applicato ovunque,
>> ma penso sarebbe più adatto a descrivere nel dettaglio le aree protette.
>> Applicarlo non vuole dire togliere altri modi di taggare se hanno senso,
>> ovviamente.
> 
> concordo...anche se non sono un fan della ridondanza dei dati ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Ciao,
> Aury
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Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani turistickych tras - prazdne ctverce

2016-05-31 Per discussione Miroslav Suchý


Dne 31.5.2016 v 19:25 Petr Vozdecký napsal(a):

Ve zvalidovanych ctvercich jsou chyby zrejme casto uz na pohled.


Myslis ve ctvercich oznacenych jako Done? To souhlasim. Ale ve 
zvalidovanych (stav Validate) jsem nenasel (tusim) problem ani jednou.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

2016-05-31 Per discussione Mikel Maron

Thanks for the report, we're looking into sorting out this attribution issue at 
Mapbox. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51 AM, Milo van der Linden  
wrote:
 
 

 Burgerking is using the static image api from mapbox:
http://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/dondeinc.ilo032fk/url-http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fdonde-img%2Fpin-bk.png%3Fc%3D3(-117.4382504,47.71573001)/-117.4382504,47.71573001,16/640x640.png

So perhaps mapbox should be asked why attribution is not visible in the static 
image api.
2016-05-28 7:22 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow :

I notices a new user added a fast food node [1] in Spokane, WA. The name was 
entered as BK. Assuming it was probably a Burger King, I did a search and found 
that it was actually a Burger King restaurant. What I noticed was their map [2] 
was identical to OSM. 
I sent a message via their contact me link on the page asking that they comply 
with our terms of use. 
Has anyone else noticed Burger King using OSM data before? 
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39617650[2] 
http://www.bk.com/restaurants/wa/spokane/1804-west-francis-ave-5816.html
On a side note, I did send the user a message asking to verify the name. First 
time user with MAPS.ME.
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Re: [Talk-de] zur Info: Bicycle=yes/designated als Anzeige Benutzungspflicht aufgeben

2016-05-31 Per discussione Joachim

Am 31. Mai 2016 um 18:42 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Am 30. Mai 2016 um 23:57 schrieb Joachim :
>
>> Da bicycle=designated
>> Standard für cycleway=* ist wird das entsprechende Tag entfernt.
>
> bitte nicht, das mag zwar von vielen als default-Wert angesehen werden,
> aber wenn es dran steht kann man sich doch noch ein kleines bisschen
> sicherer sein, dass es sich wirklich um einen ausgeschilderten Radweg
> handelt.

Designated ist seit 2008(!) im Wiki impliziert:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:cycleway=next=105399

Das cycleway:bicycle=designated müsste konsequenterweise auch von
einer ganzen Menge anderer Beispiele entfernt werden, deshalb stelle
ich das mal zurück. Ein Radweg muss nicht "ausgeschildert" sein
sondern klar erkennbar als solcher. Wie sind Wege beschaffen wo du
fürchtest ein Mapper verwendet cycleway=track ohne dass der Weg es
verdient?

Grüße Joachim

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Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Ben Discoe

FWIW, I simply set the following key mapping in JOSM:

Shift-D: add bridge=yes, layer=1
Shift-C: add tunnel=culvert, layer=-1

Making bridges/culverts is then very quick and easy.

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
 wrote:
>
> 2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard :
>>
>> often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge
>> or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more
>> trouble than use and I tend to agree.
>
>
>
> I disagree. Either there is a bridge / culvert in reality, and in this case
> why wouldn't we want it in OSM, or there isn't and then it is a simple error
> waiting to be corrected.
> Which trouble do these elements cause?

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Re: [Talk-de] zur Info: Bicycle=yes/designated als Anzeige Benutzungspflicht aufgeben

2016-05-31 Per discussione Joachim

Am 31. Mai 2016 um 09:46 schrieb Joerg Fischer :

> Gibt es eigentlich *irgendeine* Anwendung, die bei gemeinsam benutzen Rad-
> und Fußwegen (Z 240, 241) die Darstellung als Radweg (also das bekannte
> blau) aus highway=path; bicycle=designated ableitet?

Passt zwar nicht zu meinem Thema - aber ja, natürlich. Siehe
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=48.80429=9.18386#map=19/48.80429/9.18386=N
- Weg nach Süden ist path, designated/designated
- Weg nach Südosten ist footway, bicycle=yes
- Weg nach Norden ist footway

Die Ebenen Standard, Radfahrkarte und Mapquest zeigen es an.

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Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM useable for blind and visually impaired people?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Simon Eigeldinger


Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the info.

Greetings,
Simon

Am 31.05.2016 um 19:33 schrieb Daniel Patterson:

Hi Simon,

  OSRM is a back-end service - you give it a couple of coordinates, and it will 
give you the route from A->B as a blob of structured data in JSON format.

  We provide a demo server and web interface for testing, but both are for 
testing/integration purposes only - we don't guarantee that they'll be up and 
working, and we test our latest code on the server constantly, so it might 
suddenly change.

  OSRM certainly could be integrated with an app or web-site that's 
specifically designed for visually impaired folks, but that's a bit beyond the 
scope of OSRM itself.

daniel
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Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM useable for blind and visually impaired people?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Daniel Patterson

Hi Simon,

  OSRM is a back-end service - you give it a couple of coordinates, and it will 
give you the route from A->B as a blob of structured data in JSON format.

  We provide a demo server and web interface for testing, but both are for 
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suddenly change.

  OSRM certainly could be integrated with an app or web-site that's 
specifically designed for visually impaired folks, but that's a bit beyond the 
scope of OSRM itself.

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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Toby Murray

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jake  wrote:
> I've been mapping a small section of National Forest, which straddles two
> counties; Boone and Callaway.
>
> On every map I can find - Boone Countys GIS dept., census.gov, US Forest
> Service - the county border strictly follows a river, Cedar Creek. However,
> on OSM, the boundary is shaped exactly like the river, but is shifted about
> a quarter mile north-east of it. Here's a small section to show what I mean:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/38.8117/-92.1427
>
> Now, I'm pretty sure this is a mistake - rivers move, but they don't shift
> in perfectly synchronized 40-mile segments like this.

Probably a mistake, but not one done in OSM. Eric suggested a
way-dragging accident may have happened but looking at the node
histories, it looks like this is the original location of these nodes
from when Ian imported them from TIGER boundaries.

>
> I'd like to find out how that boundary is actually legally defined, but my
> google-fu is not strong enough, it seems.
>
> US mappers - do any of you know what government body is the keeper of truth
> for Missouri county boundaries?

I think Kevin's comments about the NY counties may be more common than
you think. I believe the county border between my county and the one
to the east was disputed for a long time and may actually still be a
sore spot between them. It was originally defined as the course of the
Big Blue River. Since then, the river flooded and changed its course
dramatically. The area of land between the two river courses contains
a Walmart Supercenter that both counties want tax dollars from :)

But the official boundary as it stands follows the old course of the
river, even in the lake that is now behind a dam they built to prevent
future floods.

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[OSRM-talk] OSRM useable for blind and visually impaired people?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Simon Eigeldinger


Hi all,

As a blind person i wonder if OSRM would be interesting for us?
can it output directions or something we could use to orientate on streets?

looking for something open source and what can be updated more often 
without paying high prices.


greetings,
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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jacob Hansson

Thanks for all your feedback! I got a reply from the local GIS dept. who
said the river is the official boundary. I don't think the whole county is
shifted, because the southern border lines up correctly with the Missouri
river.

I'll cross-reference it with the maps the GIS dept sent me and correct the
border accordingly.

/j

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:10 AM Bill Ricker  wrote:

>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Eric Ladner 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like the whole middle section got dragged as a bad edit or
>> something.
>
>
> Or a bad import coordinate conversion from state or other local plane
> coordinates if it affects the entire Co. / State.
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Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani turistickych tras - prazdne ctverce

2016-05-31 Per discussione Petr Vozdecký

Ahoj,

ja narazim na situaci, kdy mapper validuje ctvrece na zaklade sve domnenky, 
ze by to melo byt OK. Vychazi napr. z toho, ze tam "pred lety byl", ze to 
"pred lety mapoval" apod. Tou validaci tomu dava "kulaty razitko" as nikdo 
to po nem nekontroluje, veri tomu.

Prijde se na to pak nahodne, nebo cilenym hledanim. Ve zvalidovanych 
ctvercich jsou chyby zrejme casto uz na pohled. Docela by tomu pomohly i 
nejake strjove analyzy, ktere jsme castecne videli na SotM, castecne je dela
OsmHiCeck. najde nejen vec, viditelnou pouhym okem (konec cesty bez 
rozcestniku, rozcestnik bez blizke cesty...), ale i ty hure viditelne 
(preruseni v cestach, nelogicke odbocky vznikle nepozornosti pri editaci 
cesty pod relaci apod.)

vop


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Milan Cerny 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 30. 5. 2016 13:22:31
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani turistickych tras - prazdne ctverce

"Od doby, co se snažím mapovat KČT trasy zjišťuji, že je to překvapivě "živý
organizmus" který se dost mění. 
Jen za posledních 14 dní se kolem prahy jedna trasa prodloužila o 6 km, 
další z modré zežloutla. Ani mapy.cz v tom nemají jasno, aplikace 
(aktualizovaná mapa) ukazuje něco jiného než webová verze.
Takže to, že je čtverec "done" či dokonce "validated" ještě neznamená, že 
tam KČT něco nepřidal, či nezrušil. Chce to být stále ve střehu a průběžně 
stav kontrolovat, což je dost obtížné. Natrefit na novou trasu lze prakticky
jen dílem náhody.
Stoprocentní zmapování je pro nás prakticky nemožné.

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>já bych v této souvislosti skoro trval na tom, aby každý, kdo provede na 
čtverci Done, nebo jinou významnou změnu, připsal významně více než dvě 
slova. Aby bylo opravdu zřejmé JAK k tomu závěru autor dospěl...
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Re: [Talk-de] zur Info: Bicycle=yes/designated als Anzeige Benutzungspflicht aufgeben

Am 31. Mai 2016 um 19:05 schrieb Jan Engelhardt :

> >bitte nicht, das mag zwar von vielen als default-Wert angesehen werden,
> >aber wenn es dran steht kann man sich doch noch ein kleines bisschen
> >sicherer sein, dass es sich wirklich um einen ausgeschilderten Radweg
> >handelt.
>
> Da ist ein traffic_sign=DE:240, 241, etc. weitaus besser geeignet,
> denn es sagt dir nicht nur _dass_ ausgeschildert ist, sondern in
> welcher Form.
>


Jedes Mappen ist immer eine Interpretation. Die Schilder sind ja fast nie
auf den Weg gemalt, sondern stehen am Rand, und es sind oft mehrere davon,
an unterschiedlichen Stellen, und sie sind daher auch nicht in jedem Fall
unwidersprüchlich. Ich bin sehr für das Mappen von Verkehrsschildern, z.B.
bei Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen, aber ich mache das dort, wo die Schilder
stehen (auf einem Node), auf dem way hätten die Schilder-Codes sonst
ähnliche Probleme wie die tags auch, und im Endeffekt würde ein
zusätzlicher Layer "redundanter tag-clutter" hinzugefügt, der genauso
Fehlinterpretationsrisiko untersteht wie andere tags auch (mit den Codes
ist das Risiko von Tipp-Fehlern größer als bei Wörtern und die kennt auch
nciht jeder auswendig, d.h. das Lesen der Informationen beim Mappen wird
erschwert).



>
> sidewalk=(no) zu behalten ist sicherlich nicht verkehrt, aber bei
> {highway=tertiary,motor_vehicle=yes} hört's auf.



+1, ich sehe es auch so, dass access=yes einer der wenigen sinnvollen
defaults ist.

Gruß,
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Re: [Talk-de] zur Info: Bicycle=yes/designated als Anzeige Benutzungspflicht aufgeben

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jan Engelhardt


On Tuesday 2016-05-31 18:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>Am 30. Mai 2016 um 23:57 schrieb Joachim :
>
>> Da bicycle=designated
>> Standard für cycleway=* ist wird das entsprechende Tag entfernt.
>
>bitte nicht, das mag zwar von vielen als default-Wert angesehen werden,
>aber wenn es dran steht kann man sich doch noch ein kleines bisschen
>sicherer sein, dass es sich wirklich um einen ausgeschilderten Radweg
>handelt.

Da ist ein traffic_sign=DE:240, 241, etc. weitaus besser geeignet,
denn es sagt dir nicht nur _dass_ ausgeschildert ist, sondern in
welcher Form.

>PS: Gelegentlich kommt es vor (und in Deutschland wohl noch wesentlich
>öfter als in dünner mit Mappern gesegneten Gebieten), dass Mitmapper im
>Rahmen von "Aufräumaktionen" oder auch "immer", aus ihrer jeweiligen Sicht
>unnütze tags (da "default" oder "redundant")  entfernen.
>[...] Es ist eben doch was anderes, wenn jemand explizit eine
>Beschreibung abgibt, als wenn man nur (vor dem eigenen Hintergrund
>und Erwartungshaltung) annimmt, dass die Straße (z.B.) asphaltiert
>oder beleuchtet ist, oder (oder nicht) eine Einbahnstraße, etc.

sidewalk=(no) zu behalten ist sicherlich nicht verkehrt, aber bei
{highway=tertiary,motor_vehicle=yes} hört's auf. Prozentual sind
(viel) mehr Straßen für den allgemeinen Kfz-Verkehr freigegeben als
es Bordsteinwege an Straßen gibt.

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Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard :

> often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge
> or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more
> trouble than use and I tend to agree.
>


I disagree. Either there is a bridge / culvert in reality, and in this case
why wouldn't we want it in OSM, or there isn't and then it is a simple
error waiting to be corrected.
Which trouble do these elements cause? I realize they make it harder to
apply modifications to long (i.e. probably more pieces) ways, but on the
other hand, casual mistakes also don't extend very far.

Think how much work it is to construct a culvert or a bridge, those will
last typically for a long time (also because they are there for a reason),
and compare to how much work it is to put them into OSM (2 nodes, split,
add one tag). Is this still a real problem?

If you are not interested in mapping them, don't do it, but please do not
invent a tag that encourages not to map them.

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

2016-05-31 14:03 GMT+02:00 cesare gerbino :

> credo che sarebbe davvero mlto utile e avrebbe diversi vantaqggi:
>
>1. aiuterebbe a far capire meglio che OSM è una base dati e non un
>insieme di tasselli/immagini più o meno renderizzati: questo concetto, in
>particolare per coloro che si avvicinano ad OSM spesso non è così chiaro e
>la vedono solo come un'alternativa a GMaps (OSM <> Google Maps)
>2. permetterebbe di condividere conoscenza sparsa in giro (knownledge
>base)
>3. aiuterebbe chi muove i primi passi con Overpass Turbo e con la sua
>sintassi che proprio così entry level non è mettendo in piedi una sorta di
>"learn-by-example" che è sempre una cosa buona (poi se cè già qualcosa in
>giro di analogo allora meglio riferire ed estendere quello ma io non lo
>conosco e devo dire che non ho trovato molto in giro  )
>
> buona giornata
>


+1, sottoscrivo tutto!

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Re: [Talk-de] zur Info: Bicycle=yes/designated als Anzeige Benutzungspflicht aufgeben

Am 30. Mai 2016 um 23:57 schrieb Joachim :

> Da bicycle=designated
> Standard für cycleway=* ist wird das entsprechende Tag entfernt.
>


bitte nicht, das mag zwar von vielen als default-Wert angesehen werden,
aber wenn es dran steht kann man sich doch noch ein kleines bisschen
sicherer sein, dass es sich wirklich um einen ausgeschilderten Radweg
handelt.

Gruß,
Martin

PS: Gelegentlich kommt es vor (und in Deutschland wohl noch wesentlich
öfter als in dünner mit Mappern gesegneten Gebieten), dass Mitmapper im
Rahmen von "Aufräumaktionen" oder auch "immer", aus ihrer jeweiligen Sicht
unnütze tags (da "default" oder "redundant")  entfernen. Ich finde, da
betritt man einen schmalen Grat, weil einerseits macht es natürlich keinen
Sinn, wirklich jedes mögliche tag an jedes Stückchen Straße (z.B.) zu
heften, und sorgt vor allem für Unübersichtlichkeit, so dass am Ende noch
Wesentliches übersehen wird.  Dennoch ist es andererseits so, dass alle
vorhandenen tags das Bild ein bisschen vervollständigen. Es ist eben doch
was anderes, wenn jemand explizit eine Beschreibung abgibt, als wenn man
nur (vor dem eigenen Hintergrund und Erwartungshaltung) annimmt, dass die
Straße (z.B.) asphaltiert oder beleuchtet ist, oder (oder nicht) eine
Einbahnstraße, etc.
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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Bill Ricker

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Eric Ladner  wrote:

> Looks like the whole middle section got dragged as a bad edit or something.


Or a bad import coordinate conversion from state or other local plane
coordinates if it affects the entire Co. / State.

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[talk-ph] Manila barangays and barangay zones

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jherome Miguel

Manila's map on barangay nodes/boundaries and barangay zone boundaries
are still not added. While Manila's legislative and administrative
districts are mapped, barangay and barangay zones are still incomplete
or not mapped at all. I added barangays on Quiapo, but it is still
few. Someone may help on adding those barangay nodes/boundaries and
barangay zone boundaries.

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Re: [Talk-it] Sulla tavola rotonda ad OSMit

2016-05-31 Per discussione Volker Schmidt

PS sono socio Wikimedia.
On 31 May 2016 8:44 a.m., "Luca Delucchi"  wrote:

>
> Il 29/mag/2016 05:57 AM, "Volker Schmidt"  ha scritto:
> >
> > Avendo esperienza con la pianificazione di eventi (nella vita
> professionale precedente), mi metto a disposizione.
> >
>
> Evviva, ne manca uno, possibilmente del Chapter OSM in wikimedia
>
> > Volker
> >
>
> Ciao
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Il 29/mag/2016 05:57 AM, "Volker Schmidt"  ha scritto:
>
> Avendo esperienza con la pianificazione di eventi (nella vita
professionale precedente), mi metto a disposizione.
>

Evviva, ne manca uno, possibilmente del Chapter OSM in wikimedia

> Volker
>

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Re: [Talk-it] Sulla tavola rotonda ad OSMit

Il 27/mag/2016 11:58 AM, "Simone Cortesi"  ha scritto:
>
>
> WMI / OSM ITALIA porteranno avanti _almeno_ un evento annuale italiano
> dedicato ad OpenStreetMap.
>
> direi che a luglio potremmo far uscire la call per la prossima
> edizione, teneerla apera fino a fine settembre e poi raccogliere
> pareri ed iniziare.
>

+1

> per la ML, oggi, mi sembra prematuro, ma la possiamo fare in un
> qualunque momento.
>

Certo una volta chiusa la Call potrebbe essere il momento migliore

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Re: [Talk-cl] Algún sitio oficial para denunciar mapas?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Danilo Lacoste

Hola Julio,

pensé que podría existir alguna agrupación que se dedique a estos temas,
algo así como un grupo de abogados o algo por el estilo.
¿alguien tiene tiempo y paciencia para tomar este caso?

saludos.

2016-05-31 10:34 GMT-04:00 Julio Costa Zambelli <
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl>:

> Hola Danilo,
>
> Las instrucciones para proceder están disponibles en:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution (No figuran
> en la lista hasta ahora).
>
> Probablemente también están violando las condiciones de uso de las teselas
> de la OSM Foundation.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Julio Costa Zambelli
> Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile
>
> julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
> Cel: +56(9)89981083
>
> 2016-05-31 9:59 GMT-04:00 Danilo Lacoste :
>
>> Estimados,
>>
>> Me acabo de topar con un sitio Grande que no usa correctamente la
>> licencia.
>>
>>
>> http://www.topuniversities.com/universities/pontificia-universidad-cat%C3%B3lica-de-chile-uc
>>
>> Alguien sabe si existe un lugar oficial o agrupación que se preocupe de
>> estas cosas?
>>
>> saludos.
>>
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[Talk-ca] QC, Mercier Bridge

2016-05-31 Per discussione bootprint1

The roads connecting to the north side of the Mercier Bridge appear to have
been deleted. Could someone take a look at changeset 39522323 and possibly
revert.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/45.4219/-73.6503
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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Kevin Kenny

I hope for your sake that county lines in Missouri are better defined
than they are in upstate New York. There are some county lines in the
Adirondacks that are still shown as 'indefinite' on the state maps
because they've never been formally surveyed and monumented. In the
places where the land is all State Forest and timber tracts belonging
to Finch-Pruyn and International Paper, nobody much cares where the
line is.

When the Adirondack Survey tried to find the SE corner of Franklin
County, there was a 900 foot error of closure, giving rise to the bent
corner at http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.1352/-74.0731. The
surveyor who struck the modern line in the 1870's (reporting his 900
foot error of closure) found two previous surveys of the 18th century
land grand line that became the county boundary - about 4500 feet
apart! (And neither of the two previous surveys actually succeeded in
striking and monumenting the entire line.)

Since most of the land is uninhabited, and what isn't forbidding
mountains is sucking swamp, it's just never been worth anyone's time,
expense and danger to establish formal borders. When I'm working on
cadastral data from that part of the world, I tend just to ignore
topological inconsistencies unless they're more than a few hundred
feet or actually located within a village.

I still do want to track down the problem at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.2421/-73.9544 - that overlap
between John Brown Farm and the state forest can't be right. I just
haven't had the bandwidth to pursue it.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Minor highways crossing, was ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 03:00:04PM +, Pierre Béland wrote:
> A good simplification would be to allow bridge=culvert or tunnel=culvert on a 
> highway node A lot simpler and more rapid to trace or revise highways with 
> successive culverts.

You mean 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Simple_one_node_bridge

I had that (or very similar) idea before but did not earn much approval.. hence 
this idea with ford=no.

Richard


>  
>  
> Pierre 
> 
> 
>   De : Richard 
>  À : talk@openstreetmap.org 
>  Envoyé le : mardi 31 mai 2016 9h03
>  Objet : [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?
>
> Hi,
> 
> often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge 
> or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more 
> trouble than use and I tend to agree.
> Splitting the ways and applying a bunch of tags for every single 
> tunnel/bridge is work and has a non-zero chance to introduce some 
> errors for zero gain.
> 
> So I was wondering - if we know that a long segment of a highway
> has no fords - could it be marked with ford=no? Or other similar
> attribute?
> 
> For some classes of roads like freeways this could be also
> declared to be the implicit default.
> 
> Richard
> 
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[Talk-us] Fixing imports/Getting rid of sub_sea=stream

Hi,

looking at the rather misguiding sub_sea=stream k/v combination,
apparently it originates from two imports:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/5512983
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/5554106

Most (all but two apparently) of those are creeks and rivers in a corner
of British Columbia but actually missing any waterway key so the data
is of little in the database as is.
Contacting the authors did not yield any response yet.. does
anyone recall any details?

So far observed

* 4770 of sub_sea=stream
* out of those 84 resp 66 tagged with waterway=river|stream
* 460 matching name~river but without waterway=*  - here it seems waterway=river
  could be added without any risk of damage
* 362 matching name~creek but without waterway=* - same as previous
* 3777 without further information but as far visually checked more
  or less real waterways.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Minor highways crossing, was ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Pierre Béland

A good simplification would be to allow bridge=culvert or tunnel=culvert on a 
highway node A lot simpler and more rapid to trace or revise highways with 
successive culverts.
 
 
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 Objet : [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?
   
Hi,

often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge 
or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more 
trouble than use and I tend to agree.
Splitting the ways and applying a bunch of tags for every single 
tunnel/bridge is work and has a non-zero chance to introduce some 
errors for zero gain.

So I was wondering - if we know that a long segment of a highway
has no fords - could it be marked with ford=no? Or other similar
attribute?

For some classes of roads like freeways this could be also
declared to be the implicit default.

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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Richard Welty

On 5/31/16 10:32 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Jake  writes:
>
>> US mappers - do any of you know what government body is the keeper of truth
>> for Missouri county boundaries?
> I don't, but I would call the state GIS or highway departments and ask.
> It is likely that the country boundaries are defined in state statute
> and that it is readily available once you find the magic words to locate
> it.  The 2nd link below has a shapefile  (license unclear to me).
>
the boundaries in current TIGER are pretty good for the most part, i believe
the census bureau now sources this data from the local GIS departments
where possible

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Pierre Béland

Particularité avec fonction overpass dans JOSM. On ne peut indiquer bbox ou 
area dans la requête. On sélectionne un bbox directement sur carte au-dessous 
de la zone de requête Overpass. 

Exemple:[out:xml][timeout:25];
way["highway"];
>;
out meta;

Si trop limité, comme Christian l'a suggéré, on transfère une requête de 
overpass-turbo vers JOSM. Dans ce cas, ne pas oublier d'activer le contrôle à 
distance (Dans paramètres, activer contrôle à distance). 
 
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 Envoyé le : mardi 31 mai 2016 10h09
 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM
   
 C'est possible, il y compris depuis overpass-turbo.eu qui permet directement 
d'envoyer le résultat à JOSM par le système de télécommande. Par contre... ne 
surtout pas éditer dans ce mode là ou alors en faisant bien attention à ne rien 
déplacer ou changer au niveau géométrie et ne toucher qu'aux tags. 
 Le 31/05/2016 à 14:10, Jo a écrit :
  
 Il faut activer le mode 'expert'. Puis on le retrouve sous fichier. 
  Jo  
 2016-05-31 13:55 GMT+02:00 Quentin :
 
Bonjour,
 je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
 données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
 des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
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[Talk-ee] Garmin

2016-05-31 Per discussione Margus Väli

Tere, on ära anda üks seltsi arvel olev Garmin Oregon 200 GPS seade Tartus.
Sisse käivad AA patareid, 2tk. Minumeelest takistuslikku tüüpi
puuteekraaniga.

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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Eric Ladner

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:48 AM Jake  wrote:

> ...
> On every map I can find - Boone Countys GIS dept., census.gov, US Forest
> Service - the county border strictly follows a river, Cedar Creek. However,
> on OSM, the boundary is shaped exactly like the river, but is shifted about
> a quarter mile north-east of it. Here's a small section to show what I mean:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/38.8117/-92.1427
>
> Now, I'm pretty sure this is a mistake - rivers move, but they don't shift
> in perfectly synchronized 40-mile segments like this.
>

Looks like the whole middle section got dragged as a bad edit or
something.  Data overlaid on USGS maps matches the surrounding area pretty
well, including the river.

If it were me, I'd just treat it as an error and correct it.  My guess is
you'll find that the GIS boundaries line up with the river (as does the
USGS map).

My 0.02.  Take it or leave it.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jo

C'est bon pour avoir une idée de survol, mais quand on commence à éditer,
il vaut mieux télécharger la zone autour en mode normal.

Jo

2016-05-31 16:09 GMT+02:00 Christian Quest :

> C'est possible, il y compris depuis overpass-turbo.eu qui permet
> directement d'envoyer le résultat à JOSM par le système de télécommande.
>
> Par contre... ne surtout pas éditer dans ce mode là ou alors en faisant
> bien attention à ne rien déplacer ou changer au niveau géométrie et ne
> toucher qu'aux tags.
>
> Le 31/05/2016 à 14:10, Jo a écrit :
>
> Il faut activer le mode 'expert'. Puis on le retrouve sous fichier.
>
> Jo
>
> 2016-05-31 13:55 GMT+02:00 Quentin :
>
>> Bonjour,
>> je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
>> données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
>> des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
>> merci bien.
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Re: [Talk-it] discutibili cancellazioni, modifiche ed integrazioni

2016-05-31 15:10 GMT+02:00 Andrea Lattmann :
>>sembra un import automatico. Sul sito >e-geos non ho visto alcuna licenza di 
>>>utilizzo dati, solo il copyright e i termini >per l'acquisto.
>
> Andiamo bene... Converrà contattare l' autore o gli autori.
> Comunque va pubblicizzata la nostra ml ed invitare i mappatori ad iscriversi, 
> perché se uno fa ciò che vuole è un macello!
>

Nel caso specifico concordo con quanto indicato da Marcello: se si
tratta di strade che servono abitazioni sono a principale uso
residenziale, quindi asfaltate o meno, sarebbero da taggare come
residential e non come track. Quello che prevede il PRG è di relativa
importanza rispetto alla realtà che rappresentiamo in OSM.
Per quanto riguarda il changeset incriminato, a prima vista non mi
pare si possa pensare ad un import automatizzato ed il source citato
(e-geos sat) potrebbe fare riferimento alle immagini satellitari
Realvista, tranquillamente utilizzabili.
Ciao
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Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Greg Troxel

Jake  writes:

> US mappers - do any of you know what government body is the keeper of truth
> for Missouri county boundaries?

I don't, but I would call the state GIS or highway departments and ask.
It is likely that the country boundaries are defined in state statute
and that it is readily available once you find the magic words to locate
it.  The 2nd link below has a shapefile  (license unclear to me).

http://oa.mo.gov/information-technology-itsd/it-governance/office-geospatial-information
https://data.mo.gov/Demographics/Missouri-County-Boundaries-Map/n34b-fwqr

http://msdis.missouri.edu/

http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G810

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Re: [Talk-cl] Algún sitio oficial para denunciar mapas?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Julio Costa Zambelli

Hola Danilo,

Las instrucciones para proceder están disponibles en:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution (No figuran
en la lista hasta ahora).

Probablemente también están violando las condiciones de uso de las teselas
de la OSM Foundation.

Saludos,

Julio Costa Zambelli
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2016-05-31 9:59 GMT-04:00 Danilo Lacoste :

> Estimados,
>
> Me acabo de topar con un sitio Grande que no usa correctamente la
> licencia.
>
>
> http://www.topuniversities.com/universities/pontificia-universidad-cat%C3%B3lica-de-chile-uc
>
> Alguien sabe si existe un lugar oficial o agrupación que se preocupe de
> estas cosas?
>
> saludos.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Aide

2016-05-31 Per discussione Vincent Bergeot


Le 31/05/2016 16:12, nicolas serge sagna a écrit :

Bonjour
Je suis débutant dans le domaine
des webmapping. J'ai réalisé cette app
avec umap (http://u.osmfr.org/m/87505/). Cependant j'ai deux soucis :
1.Je n'arrive à afficher les nom des localités
dans la légende en mode visualisation des
données.
2. Les éqituettes des localité ne s'affichent pas
non plus dans la carte.
Merci pour votre aide


Bonjour,
sur votre carte, lorsque vous êtes connecté, dans le menu de gauche des 
couches, vous devez avoir la couche "localité d'interventions", que vous 
pouvez éditer en tableau. Dans ce tableau, changer le titre de colonne 
correspondant à vos localités par name, puis dans propriétés avancées du 
calque,assurez vous d'avoir l'affichage des étiquettes.


Pour éviter toutes erreurs, vous pouvez cloner la carte pour faire des 
tests, et ou pour partager ce clone pour que l'on puisse vous aider.


Bonne journée










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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Aide uMap

2016-05-31 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel

Pour les textes, a priori "propriétés avancées", "Ajouter une étiquette" 
(mettre à oui).


Pour la liste, ça s'affiche bien. La seule restriction c'est que c'est 
Commune qui est affiché ;-).


Pour le panneau latéral il faut indiquer le format à utiliser : Popup 
options, Gabarit du contenu de la popup.


Par exemple si les communes ont un champ nom :

#Commune  {nom}


Le 2016-05-31 à 16:12, nicolas serge sagna - nicolase...@gmail.com a écrit :

Bonjour
Je suis débutant dans le domaine
des webmapping. J'ai réalisé cette app
avec umap (http://u.osmfr.org/m/87505/). Cependant j'ai deux soucis :
1.Je n'arrive à afficher les nom des localités
dans la légende en mode visualisation des
données.
2. Les éqituettes des localité ne s'affichent pas
non plus dans la carte.
Merci pour votre aide

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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

2016-05-31 14:05 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Palmas :
> Il 31/05/2016 13:47, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:
>>
>> comunque la mia proposta era di fare un servizio che utilizzava
>> proprio overpass per segnalare alcuni tipi di errore, si potrebbe
>> anche solo creare un repository su github con un po' di query utili
>>
> E' molto simile agli strumenti che mette a disposizione Daniele Forsi;
> potrebbero stare nello stesso posto?
>
Anche io ho pensato subito agli ottimi strumenti di Daniele, anche se
non riesco più a raggiungerli al solito indirizzo.
Ad ogni modo il controllo che suggerisce Luca sarebbe molto utile.
Ciao
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[OSM-talk-fr] Aide

2016-05-31 Per discussione nicolas serge sagna

Bonjour
Je suis débutant dans le domaine
des webmapping. J'ai réalisé cette app
avec umap (http://u.osmfr.org/m/87505/). Cependant j'ai deux soucis :
1.Je n'arrive à afficher les nom des localités
dans la légende en mode visualisation des
données.
2. Les éqituettes des localité ne s'affichent pas
non plus dans la carte.
Merci pour votre aide

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Laboratoire de Géographie
IFAN Ch. A. Diop
Université Cheikh Anta Diop
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Christian Quest

C'est possible, il y compris depuis overpass-turbo.eu qui permet 
directement d'envoyer le résultat à JOSM par le système de télécommande.


Par contre... ne surtout pas éditer dans ce mode là ou alors en faisant 
bien attention à ne rien déplacer ou changer au niveau géométrie et ne 
toucher qu'aux tags.



Le 31/05/2016 à 14:10, Jo a écrit :

Il faut activer le mode 'expert'. Puis on le retrouve sous fichier.

Jo

2016-05-31 13:55 GMT+02:00 Quentin >:


Bonjour,
je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
merci bien.

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[Talk-cl] Algún sitio oficial para denunciar mapas?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Danilo Lacoste

Estimados,

Me acabo de topar con un sitio Grande que no usa correctamente la licencia.

http://www.topuniversities.com/universities/pontificia-universidad-cat%C3%B3lica-de-chile-uc

Alguien sabe si existe un lugar oficial o agrupación que se preocupe de
estas cosas?

saludos.

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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

2016-05-31 Per discussione Aury88

Luca Delucchi wrote
> comunque la mia proposta era di fare un servizio che utilizzava
> proprio overpass per segnalare alcuni tipi di errore, si potrebbe
> anche solo creare un repository su github con un po' di query utili

questa idea mi piace molto...sbaglio o non è la prima volta che viene
proposto un tale repository?




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Re: [Talk-se] Data från Vattenmyndigheterna

2016-05-31 Per discussione André Costa

Många tack för återkopplingen.

Om det är LM-data i grunden så skulle jag tro att det ligger utanför
möjligheterna för vårt lilla projekt att få till en ommärkning med annan
licens.

Möjligen skulle man istället kunna titta på möjligheten att märka upp
existerande sjöar/vattendrag med deras VISS-id (eller egentligen deras
euSurfaceWaterBodyCode) alternativt det Wikidata objekt detta motsvarar.

mvh,
André

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2016-05-17 20:22 GMT+02:00 Karl Wettin :

>
> On 17 May 2016, at 15:14, Henrik Lundqvist  wrote:
>
> Även om de är öppna data numera så är det
> CC-BY vilket inte är kompatibelt med ODBL vad jag förstår. Rätta mig
> om jag har fel.
>
>
> Det är något av en teknisk detalj.
>
> Enligt OSMs Wiki så är CC-BY kompatibelt med ODbL om man får tillstånd att
> återpublicera det hos OSM med källhänvisningen enbart i rådatan. Många,
> inklusive mig, hävdar att det då inte är CC-BY länge, att dataägarna då
> faktiskt även släpper sin data som ODbL.
>
> Anledningen till detta är att de som inte håller med om kompatibiliteten
> tolkar CC-BY att man lämnar källhänvisning i alla derivat. En renderad
> karta med CC-BY-data kräver således en källhänvisning på själva kartbladen.
> Kartan hade snabbt inte synts för alla källhänvisningar.
>
> Jag hade personligen inte lagt in data från CC-BY-källor i OSM utan ett
> skriftligt tillstånd att man får distribuera datan med ODbL. Har man en
> relation med de som äger datan är det oftast inga problem för dem att ta
> det beslutet.
>
> Rent juridiskt är det ett mycket kort steg från CC-BY till ODbL, men många
> jag försökt övertala att återpublicera med för dem ny licens har en
> inställning åt hållet att "Nu har vi ju valt att publicera med licens X, så
> när någon ber oss publicera med Y säger vi nej eller sätter till en
> utredning som det inte finns plats för budgeten i denna mandatperiod",
> skriver ner det på en Post-IT-lapp som de ganska omgående gör sig av med.
>
>
> Grundproblemet är så klart att myndigheter skall publicera data som CC-0
> eller mindre, och det är vad man hela tiden skall poängtera när man pratar
> med beslutsfattarna. Det börjar faktiskt hända. Här är lite argumentation: <
> http://cc0.kodapan.se/>
>
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[Talk-cz] Jak posunout rozcestnik?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Dalibor Jelínek

Ahoj,

zkusil jsem nahrat rozcestnik

http://api.openstreetmap.cz/table/id/7209

a i kdyz jsem mel zastkrnuto pouzit souradnice z EXIFu,

tak jsem ho dokazal umistit nekam uplne mimo.

A ted ho neumim premistit na spravne souradnice, kam patri.

Pomoc!

 

Dekuji,

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[Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jake

I've been mapping a small section of National Forest, which straddles two
counties; Boone and Callaway.

On every map I can find - Boone Countys GIS dept., census.gov, US Forest
Service - the county border strictly follows a river, Cedar Creek. However,
on OSM, the boundary is shaped exactly like the river, but is shifted about
a quarter mile north-east of it. Here's a small section to show what I mean:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/38.8117/-92.1427

Now, I'm pretty sure this is a mistake - rivers move, but they don't shift
in perfectly synchronized 40-mile segments like this.

I'd like to find out how that boundary is actually legally defined, but my
google-fu is not strong enough, it seems.

US mappers - do any of you know what government body is the keeper of truth
for Missouri county boundaries?

Best,
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Re: [Talk-cl] Ayuda con las actualizaciones

2016-05-31 Per discussione Marco Antonio

On Mon, 30 May 2016 23:08:57 -0300 Ruben Leuquen 
wrote:

> ¿cual sería la soluición? ¿Estaré haciendo algo mal?

como ya dijeron, se actualiza con menos frecuencia (creo 1 vez al
mes), pero vos puedes descargar una nueva versión del mapa cada día
desde

http://direct.mapswithme.com/regular/daily/

Se descarga en el dispositivo, y reemplazas en su directorio.

abrazos,

Marco Antonio
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Re: [Talk-it] discutibili cancellazioni, modifiche ed integrazioni

2016-05-31 Per discussione Andrea Lattmann

>sembra un import automatico. Sul sito >e-geos non ho visto alcuna licenza di 
>>utilizzo dati, solo il copyright e i termini >per l'acquisto.

Andiamo bene... Converrà contattare l' autore o gli autori.
Comunque va pubblicizzata la nostra ml ed invitare i mappatori ad iscriversi, 
perché se uno fa ciò che vuole è un macello!

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[OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

Hi,

often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge 
or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more 
trouble than use and I tend to agree.
Splitting the ways and applying a bunch of tags for every single 
tunnel/bridge is work and has a non-zero chance to introduce some 
errors for zero gain.

So I was wondering - if we know that a long segment of a highway
has no fords - could it be marked with ford=no? Or other similar
attribute?

For some classes of roads like freeways this could be also
declared to be the implicit default.

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Re: [Talk-it] discutibili cancellazioni, modifiche ed integrazioni

2016-05-31 Per discussione Marcello

Dino,

su questo punto non mi trovi daccordo:
Il 31/05/2016 10:11, Dino Michelini ha scritto:
> il 10/2/16 23:17 utilizzando dati e-geos sat
>  hanno cambiato per
> l'ennesima volta i tag di strade sterrate (track) in località ancora
> classificate nel PRG come aree agricole in residenziali solo perché vi
> sono molti edifici costruiti in oltre 30 anni con licenza edilizia di
> case con accessorio agricolo su 2,5h in deroga alla legge regionale
> sull'uso del suolo (5h).
Se nel PRG le aree sono ancora agricole ma le strade servono, come
affermi, molti edifici, mi sembra più corretta la classificazione come
residenziali. se la documentazione ufficiale non concorda con la
situazione reale penso sia corretto rappresentare quest'ultima,
altrimenti non sarebbe stato possibile mappare la baraccopoli di 500.000
abitanti nei dintorni di Nairobi, se ricordo bene, presente solo sulle
mappe OSM.

Altro discorso invece è capire se i dati inseriti sono in linea con le
politiche di licenza di OSM, quel changeset vedo che ha apportato
modifiche dall'alto Lazio a buona parte dell'Abruzzo, fino a Pescara,
sembra un import automatico. Sul sito e-geos non ho visto alcuna licenza
di utilizzo dati, solo il copyright e i termini per l'acquisto.

Ciao
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Frontière Guyane osm-fr

2016-05-31 Per discussione Nicolas Moyroud

Testé ce matin sur Margon (Hérault). L'export des houses se fait bien, 
mais la géométrie est infecte (que ce soit avec le house simplifié ou le 
house non simplifié). Ça sent l'ultra simplification avec des petits 
coins coupés, des petits morceaux de wall=no complètement manquants, des 
polygones non jointifs de partout. Un vrai cauchemar à nettoyer ! Ça 
irait presque plus vite à la grenobloise :-D


Nicolas

Le 31/05/2016 10:20, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
À la grenobloise :) Il y a eu des changements côté cadastre.gouv.fr 
récemment, remontés par Tyndare. Je ne sais pas dire le lien avec les 
soucis que vous remontez mais on va regarder.

Je teste à l'instant sur Chaville (92) : export des bâtiment ok en apparence, 
mais des problèmes de géométrie dans le contenu produit. Et pas d'export des 
limites admin. Bref il y a un chantier à venir.





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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

Il 31/mag/2016 02:11 PM, "Alessandro Palmas" 
ha scritto:
>
> E' molto simile agli strumenti che mette a disposizione Daniele Forsi;
potrebbero stare nello stesso posto?
>

Eh infatti non sapevo se c'era già qualcosa, ma quello di Daniele non
controlla con gli opendata?

Ciao
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Jo

Il faut activer le mode 'expert'. Puis on le retrouve sous fichier.

Jo

2016-05-31 13:55 GMT+02:00 Quentin :

> Bonjour,
> je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
> données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
> des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
> merci bien.
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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

2016-05-31 Per discussione Alessandro Palmas


Il 31/05/2016 13:47, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:

comunque la mia proposta era di fare un servizio che utilizzava
proprio overpass per segnalare alcuni tipi di errore, si potrebbe
anche solo creare un repository su github con un po' di query utili

E' molto simile agli strumenti che mette a disposizione Daniele Forsi; 
potrebbero stare nello stesso posto?


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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo

2016-05-31 Per discussione cesare gerbino

*>>si potrebbe anche solo creare un repository su github con un po' di
query utili*
credo che sarebbe davvero mlto utile e avrebbe diversi vantaqggi:

   1. aiuterebbe a far capire meglio che OSM è una base dati e non un
   insieme di tasselli/immagini più o meno renderizzati: questo concetto, in
   particolare per coloro che si avvicinano ad OSM spesso non è così chiaro e
   la vedono solo come un'alternativa a GMaps (OSM <> Google Maps)
   2. permetterebbe di condividere conoscenza sparsa in giro (knownledge
   base)
   3. aiuterebbe chi muove i primi passi con Overpass Turbo e con la sua
   sintassi che proprio così entry level non è mettendo in piedi una sorta di
   "learn-by-example" che è sempre una cosa buona (poi se cè già qualcosa in
   giro di analogo allora meglio riferire ed estendere quello ma io non lo
   conosco e devo dire che non ho trovato molto in giro  )

buona giornata


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Il giorno 31 maggio 2016 13:47, Luca Delucchi  ha
scritto:

> 2016-05-31 13:35 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tambussa :
> >
> > Il 31/Mag/2016 12:48, "Luca Delucchi"  ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Ciao a tutti,
> >>
> >> pensate sia utile uno strumento per controllare se ci sono nomi che
> >> iniziano con una lettera minuscola in una determinata zona?
> >
> > Fai una query overpass turbo del tipo:
> > way ["name"~"[a-z].*"]
>
> io ho usato
>
> way ["name"~"^[a-z]"]
>
> > O simili (per point o rel): trovi tutte le way col nome che inizia per
> > lettera minuscola.
> > Non ho provato la query, non garantisco sulla correttezza della regular
> > expression.
> > La dimostrazione è lasciata al lettore come esercizio.
>
> comunque la mia proposta era di fare un servizio che utilizzava
> proprio overpass per segnalare alcuni tipi di errore, si potrebbe
> anche solo creare un repository su github con un po' di query utili
>
> > Saluti
> > Sbiri
> >
>
>
> --
> ciao
> Luca
>
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[OSM-talk-fr] Question sur JOSM

2016-05-31 Per discussione Quentin

Bonjour,
je voulais savoir si il était possible de télécharger qu'un type de
données  spécifique sur JOSM ou autrement dit est-ce possible de faire
des requêtes overpass directement dans le logiciel Je n'ai pas trouvé.
merci bien.

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Re: [Talk-it] strumento nomi iniziali in minuscolo