Empty features -- an explanation
Hello Tbbeta, If during the installation you see that a particular feature occupies 0 KB or an amount of space smaller than it actually occupies, than it means that this feature already resides on the disk installed by a previous version of The Bat! Setup, and the new installation wont modify it. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty features -- an explanation
Maxim, On 19-10-2004 07:45, you [MM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MM If during the installation you see that a particular feature MM occupies 0 KB or an amount of space smaller than it actually MM occupies, than it means that this feature already resides on the MM disk installed by a previous version of The Bat! Setup, and the new MM installation wont modify it. But that is not the case in reality. When I installed over a previous installation, TB core files were said to take up 8,5 MB. How can that be? -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 327 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty features -- an explanation
Hello Peter, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 8:14:37 AM, you wrote: When I installed over a previous installation, TB core files were said to take up 8,5 MB. How can that be? Because core files = the executable, and that did change, did it? :-) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty features -- an explanation
Hi Peter! When I installed over a previous installation, TB core files were said to take up 8,5 MB. How can that be? But the TB core files will be changed. There is a new exe in it, and it is that large. The disk cost say how much data gets installed. -- Regards, Raymund Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Application Error and Error
Hi TBBETA, Well I am not sure what happened but I left my lappy sitting there for a few hours. When I came back I had the following Application error (tb7.png) which when OK'ed then gave me a The Bat! Error (tb6.png) -- Ti2GO,___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Yo mama so slutty she could suck-start a Harley!| | Using The Bat ! 3.0.2.1 pro | | but crippled by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 |attachment: tb7.pngattachment: tb6.png pgpxhuOuNKIB0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty features -- an explanation
Raymund, On 19-10-2004 08:49, you [RT] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RT But the TB core files will be changed. There is a new exe in it, and RT it is that large. RT The disk cost say how much data gets installed. OK. I understood it as the delta size. -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 327 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Manual filter no longer works?
Hello tbbeta I've been using this manual, hotkey only filter to remove spam off the server for .. ages.. I upgraded to the latest beta and it stopped working. Anyone confirm? TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [9CDD234A.01C48F57.2A8F1EF8.608BFEDC] Name: Manually\20remove\20spam Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MarkRead SetColour 875396477 DeleteFromServer IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsCheckRule IsHotkeyOnly IsSendQueue endFilter -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 assisted by [Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6] under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 07:42, Dierk Haasis wrote: What I found today is that it is not *every* time I start TB, but only after I had shut down Windows. Next time I start Windows and then XP F-Secure's fire Wall asks me to allow TB to connect to the Internet (outgoing). Obviously F-Secure not being able to store the updated hash (again, as long as you are certain your system is not in fact infected). It remember the updated hash while running, but doesn't update it's configuration files. Have a look at the configuration files and make sure it's not write protected. And then contact F-Secure support. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Error in Virtual Folders
Hæ! Now and then, I experience an error with the VFs. It shows a message which is not in any of the watched folders. See pics. error1a.png http://www.muenster.de/~hrafn/tb/error1a.png: *** The message from David Elliot was obviously catched by my VF Inbox_Unknown, which monitors by inboxes. Furthermore it shows in which account's inbox the message is located. I am using the following options: Advanced filter settings Any message AND NOT message (attributes) IS read OR NOT message (attributes) IS replied AND age IS LESS THAN 20 days. error1b.png http://www.muenster.de/~hrafn/tb/error1b.png: *** It shows the message from David Elliot is correctly located in its mailinglist-folder. The inbox in question does not contain the mail. Does somebody experience something similar? It is now the second time since I installed v3.0.2.1 that this happens. It seems to occur very infrequently. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.1 PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! DH Hello TBBETA Members! DH I have a very strange experience with the current TB EXE: DH Whenever I start TB, F-Secure's fire wall tells me the program has DH been changed since last time and if I want allow it to connect to DH the Internet. Confirmed with McAfee PF 6+ Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Professional on Windows XP (5. 1) Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXTbywfz7CZ5qak3EQJBpACgxCnqMWPGulhSM47QFMtliMtpKpUAnRaA 0cW3T5RAmR2KnIRsljBl2QzU =9mvu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
[BUG] Address book contents deleted!
First off - Hello! (i´m new to the listing) Once again the contents of the Address Book are gone! The last updates from 3.0 where not a problem - but this last one dumped the complete address books. Not only is the default personal address book empty but also the ones i created. Can anybody confirm? (any workaround?) -- Christian Grams ## Harlekin's-EDV Christian Grams E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## E-Mail Disclaimer: http://www.harlekin-edv.de/email/email.html PGP-Key: http://pgp.upb.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xD775BF12 benutze/using: TheBat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP Build: 2600 with Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [BUG] Address book contents deleted!
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 11:20, Christian Grams wrote: Once again the contents of the Address Book are gone! The last updates from 3.0 where not a problem - but this last one dumped the complete address books. Not only is the default personal address book empty but also the ones i created. Can anybody confirm? No, my address books are still intact. (any workaround?) Restore from backup? :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: [BUG] Address book contents deleted!
Guten Tag Marcus Ohlström, am Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 um 11:41 schrieben Sie: MO On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 11:20, Christian Grams wrote: Once again the contents of the Address Book are gone! The last updates from 3.0 where not a problem - but this last one dumped the complete address books. Not only is the default personal address book empty but also the ones i created. Can anybody confirm? MO No, my address books are still intact. Hmm... mine were definitely gone. (any workaround?) MO Restore from backup? :-) sorry didn´t mean to express it that way - per backup works of course. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Grams ## Harlekin´s-EDV Christian Grams Görlitzer Strasse 69 34123 Kassel Tel.: +49 (561) 8203089 Fax.: +49 (561) 8203088 Mob.: +49 (174) 5802274 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## E-Mail Disclaimer: http://www.harlekin-edv.de/email/email.html PGP-Key: http://pgp.upb.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xD775BF12 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Manual filter no longer works?
Dear Graham, @19-Oct-2004, 08:28 Foster, Graham [GF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: GF I've been using this manual, hotkey only filter to remove spam off the GF server for .. ages.. I upgraded to the latest beta and it stopped GF working. Anyone confirm? Well ... confirmed, but it has no hotkey set... Other than that, I have no idea because I don't leave messages on the server :grin: -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpKcMgIZSOhm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty Folder silently removes parked messages ?
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 12:05:09 AM [GMT -0500], Olivier Mascia wrote: I'll log more imap activity from TB! to demo what is different between a full delete on the message pane and a Empty Folder. But I think TB! people now have well enough information to review the problem by themselves and fix it without me debugging the imap commands and sequences they use. Strongly agreed. I think our work is done here. ;) -- -= Allie =- . If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Desktop TB!
Some time around 10/18/2004 18:27:17, I think I heard Martin Webster say: MS Well - the security problem with Google Desktop is an other topic, I MS know, but don't forget it... I can't see any real security problems with Google Desktop and it seems I'm not alone: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1678974,00.asp. Copied to TBOT. Hello: From the article: Yeah, it's possible for Google to do this, in direct violation of its own privacy policy, but it's not necessary for them to do so. Google officials have been cited elsewhere as saying that this arrangement of mixed results will get people to do more online Google searches, enhancing the company's ad-based online business, and this is plausible. Why would they want, instead, to lie to users in their privacy policy? So the entire proof of his case that Google Desktop is definitely *not* security risk lies on trust; it's possible... but not necessary; and a specious and naive asseveration of why would they lie?. Seems hardly proof to me. -dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Manual filter no longer works?
Hello Marck I've figured out what the problem is... Previously use of the hotkey caused the display to be updated with the new colour group - and I could SEE it was actioned (part of the reason for the colour group). In this beta though, the display is NOT updated. Moving off the folder and back to the folder shows that the filter did indeed work, and the message was marked as deleted. -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Manual filter no longer works?
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 13:45, Foster, Graham wrote: I've figured out what the problem is... Previously use of the hotkey caused the display to be updated with the new colour group - and I could SEE it was actioned (part of the reason for the colour group). In this beta though, the display is NOT updated. Moving off the folder and back to the folder shows that the filter did indeed work, and the message was marked as deleted. Sounds like the known v3.0.2.1 issue. This beta has problems refreshing the message list, wait for the next beta or roll back (as I did). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello fellow tbbeta subscribers! An old bug that I complained of on tbudl in v. 2.11, but got no one to confirm, is that Column settings and View/Sort-by settings do not stick when using No View Mode. This morning (Tues. 19 OCT 2004) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] David Boggon reported on tbudl experiencing this problem, using the subject line, Column Settings That Don't Set. Subsequent short thread ensued, to which Marck D. Pearlstone and I posted. Result: I confirm that the problem still exists in v. 3.0.1.33 and in the current beta which I am running. If you can confirm this bug, please support my BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3962 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SOT: Re: Error in Virtual Folders
Hæ! Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 14:56, Zeynel wrote: This is not related to your problem but I'm just curious did you use a customized glyph or the default one? My address book button doesn't have 'AB' written on it :) Yes. :) -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.1 PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: Jimy Hendrix - House of the rising sun Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Desktop TB!
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:15:26 -0400, DZ-Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the entire proof of his case that Google Desktop is definitely *not* security risk lies on trust; it's possible... but not necessary; and a specious and naive asseveration of why would they lie?. Seems hardly proof to me. It's possible that TB! indexes your hard drive and sends out all your data to RitLabs! too. What's your point? At this point, it's just a bunch of security consultants trying to make a name for themselves by speculating at possible scenarios. In my research of the matter, no one has shown it actually being abused. This has gotten wildly OT. I requested in my initial post that if you weren't in favor of the reply, to just keep quiet on the matter. While this has generally held up (thank you for those that did), now it's turned into a he-said, she-said security argument that a) would bias those reading my original post (NB: Others could do their own research if they wanted -- they don't need someone else giving them their opinion) and b) doesn't belong on TBBETA. So at this point, I request that further discussion of the security issues with GDS go to TBOT or some other net sink hole. -- Thanks, Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Desktop TB!
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: This has gotten wildly OT. I requested in my initial post that if you weren't in favor of the reply, to just keep quiet on the matter. !SNIP! Great argument. I voice my opinion, anybody against me shut up. Those who agree with me, welcome! dZ. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Mary, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 8:00:27 AM, you wrote: MB Subsequent short thread ensued, to which Marck D. Pearlstone and I MB posted. Result: I confirm that the problem still exists in v. 3.0.1.33 MB and in the current beta which I am running. MB If you can confirm this bug, please support my BT report: MB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3962 Mary I am a little confused by this. What Viewmode do you use for TBUDL? You seem to be saying you use No Viewmode. I do not have a Folder Viewmode by this name, just a Global Setting by this name. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Hail Marck, Historians believe that on 19 October 2004, at 14:34:07 +0100 (which was 14:34 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone might have written DJ dZ. ... moderator ... Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. ... /moderator Humm a bit mean that trouting but technically you are right. :) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 8:35 AM, you wrote: MB If you can confirm this bug, please support my BT report: MB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3962 SC Mary I am a little confused by this. What Viewmode do you use for SC TBUDL? You seem to be saying you use No Viewmode. I do not have a SC Folder Viewmode by this name, just a Global Setting by this name. In TB!'s main window click on View/Global View Mode (scroll way down)/No View Mode. Then, again in the TB! main window, click on View/Sort-by , and change your Sort-by choice to a different one. Go to another folder. Then come back to the previous folder. The change you set will not have been retained. The folder will have reverted to the one before you made the change. It is so hard for me to tell things clearly! Please ask some more, if I haven't explained the problem well. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message list not updating.
Hello TBBETA, background I have a manual filter that 1) exports a message. 2) calls notepad to edit the message. 3) Imports the message. It also mark's the message as read so that I can see it has been auctioned. When the filer is finished the highlighted message in the message list has not been updated as read. The folder count of unread is updated. If I move out of the folder and back then it is highlighted correctly. I think that this is related to some one else on the list with colour group settings as well. -- TTFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | No time spent with a cat on your lap can ever be considered wasted. | | Using The Bat ! 3.0.2.1 pro | | but crippled by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 | pgpX96PQ3bthu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SetHeader macro
Hello Peter, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:44:24 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 01:44 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH hmmm... I am not really sure. This would simplify the procedure, of course. That's the point. PH But the necessity to declare the header first reduces the chance PH of typos inside the templates [e.g. PH setheader(x-rouge,:rogue:)] and also most likely reduces the PH appearance of messages with nonsence headers. If the user is PH forced to DEFINE what he wants to insert at another place, he at PH least has to *think* ;-) a bit. Well, I would think that people think when they create templates. The macro wouldn't work when just typed into a message. You are right in that is a double-safety measure against typos, but I don't think that's necessary. If, for example, the x-roguie header doesn't work, it just won't work, rather than halt the system or cause a melt-down in the internet. PH Therefore I'd vote to leave it at the current state. Your opinion has been registered as a valid one. I just have another one. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Man kann niemanden ueberholen, wenn man in seine Fussstapfen tritt. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
On Saturday, October 16, 2004 at 15:12 Kian Andersen [KA] wrote: KA Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings KA depending on .dk or .everythingelse Yes you can. I've done this with Dutch / English for .nl and .anything else on http://thebat.kiap.org/ if you manage to read through the Dutch... -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.0.1.33; ; Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6; AJS v0.6; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, at 7:52:00 AM, Mary wrote: An old bug that I complained of on tbudl in v. 2.11, but got no one to confirm, is that Column settings and View/Sort-by settings do not stick when using No View Mode. Just curious Mary, but don't you have to set your View Modes using Options/Preferences/View Modes? What happens if you create, under Options, a new view mode named No View Mode, set the parameters, and then Ok the formation of that view. Now go ahead and make changes to that new mode as you earlier suggested. Do they set properly? -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.1 on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Different greeting depending on .domain
Hello Maurice Snellen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) you wrote: On Saturday, October 16, 2004 at 15:12 Kian Andersen [KA] wrote: KA Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings KA depending on .dk or .everythingelse Yes you can. I've done this with Dutch / English for .nl and .anything else on http://thebat.kiap.org/ if you manage to read through the Dutch... I don't think I get it! -- Best regards Kian Andersen http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Running Windows XP Professional SP2 (5.1.2600) Using LiteStep 24.7 RC3 with Non|Step mobile AMD Athlon (tm) 2000+ (Stepping 0, Model 8, Family 7, MMX, 3Dnow!) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Proper positioning of Txt
Hi Nick and list, On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 12:19:46 GMT -0700 (which was 21:19 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Proper positioning of Txt: Confirm you are using that same font for signatures as well, because when I use Courier New 10pt the signatures look fine. Nick, thankyou - I think your mail cured my 'lovely' windows installation this time. I was on my way to double check the configuration again, (that field in RTV really said Courier New 10pt, switching back to your message caused a hang of windows then, only the power switch did work, no chance for task manager or so. I went to bed rather frustrated. Today, after three times switching on this ... machine I could again start TB! - guess what: The signature looks nearly the same as before (skewed in RTV but today fine in PTV) and the entry for sig says now Arial 8pt. Of course Arial is not a fixed font - so I guess that's one of the secret mysteries of Windows to. Sorry for the confusion shrugforwin! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 17:00 Kian Andersen [KA] wrote: Yes you can. I've done this with Dutch / English for .nl and .anything else on http://thebat.kiap.org/ if you manage to read through the Dutch... KA I don't think I get it! I may have overestimated the overlap between Dutch and Danish. Also, getting things to work the way I use it, more or less requires using the whole macro-set explained on the site I mentioned which might be a bit difficult to implement if you can't understand the surrounding text. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.0.1.33; ; Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6; AJS v0.6; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [BUG] Address book contents deleted!
Hallo Christian, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:20:22 +0200GMT (19-10-2004, 11:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CG Once again the contents of the Address Book are gone! CG The last updates from 3.0 where not a problem - but this last one CG dumped the complete address books. Can't confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof Define the universe. Give three examples. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpWoUoo2E0R7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Google Desktop TB!
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 it appears that DZ-Jay wrote the following in regards to Google Desktop TB!: DJ Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: This has gotten wildly OT. I requested in my initial post that if you weren't in favor of the reply, to just keep quiet on the matter. DJ !SNIP! DJ Great argument. I voice my opinion, anybody against me shut up. Those DJ who agree with me, welcome! As a quick aside (and definitely OT) without commenting on the original post or poster, this posture that you described is one Americans have become accustomed to during this political season. Let's hope it doesn't spread. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.1, BayesIt! 0.7.3, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Desktop TB!
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:36:16 -0400, DZ-Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great argument. I voice my opinion, anybody against me shut up. Those who agree with me, welcome! There is no argument. Any semblance of an argument, you've created. I've gone out of my way to try and prevent an argument, and I think I've been rather polite about it. I don't really say one way or another. I said no one has done anything more than say this could be insecure and that my own research has turned out that is not the case (neither of these are absolutes). But really, this issue of security is orthogonal to the request. Might it sway one person one way or another? Yes, but that's why I left it out initially. At this point, all it is is speculation, and the intelligent person will formulate his own opinion -- he doesn't need you to try and do it for him. All I asked is, if you want to support the request, go to the URL. If you don't then just don't reply. This was to avoid such a thread. If you wish to continue to troll, be my guest, but I have better things to do than to keep feeding you. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Nick! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 9:55 AM, you wrote: MB An old bug that I complained of on tbudl in v. 2.11, but got no one to MB confirm, is that Column settings and View/Sort-by settings do not MB stick when using No View Mode. NA Just curious Mary, but don't you have to set your View Modes using NA Options/Preferences/View Modes? What happens if you create, under NA Options, a new view mode named No View Mode, set the parameters, NA and then Ok the formation of that view. Now go ahead and make NA changes to that new mode as you earlier suggested. Do they set NA properly? The default choices given to me on the View/Global View Mode drop-down menu of the main window are: Generic View Mode No View Mode (with o underlined, which I cannot reproduce in my charset) I did as you suggested and created a New View Mode, named No View Mode without the o underlined. Choosing that, the parameters stick, and changes made in the drop-down menu View/Sort-by stick. But on the default choices No [underlined o] View Mode they do not stick. Therefore, I think it is a bug. I long since have a work-around. This was my problem in v. 2.11 , before I was ever a beta tester, which I reported on tbudl but no one confirmed. So I did not make a BT report. There is now a BT report, describing the problem and how to reproduce it, for those who wish to help by testing the steps described here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3962 I believe it is a bug, because using the default menu choice No [underlined o] View Mode, this behavior occurs for both myself (tested several times with different Sort-by choices, today, before making the BT report) and David Boggon: tbudl mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject line, column settings that don't set I shall greatly appreciate it if you do have the time to test for this bug, using the exact steps given in the BT report, and if you can confirm it, put a note to my report. While David B. and I have a work-around now, every new user of The Bat! is likely to run into this behavior and be very annoyed until he/she either figures it out by himself/herself or posts to tbudl about it. That is, if it is the bug that I truly believe at present, it is. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 [Professional Edition] on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 15:12, Kian Andersen wrote: When speaking to English speaking people I use Hey or Hello When speaking to Danish people I use Hej Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings depending on .dk or .everythingelse On a similar subject (choosing spell checker automatically), MAU suggested a brilliant solution making use of PopFile to classify the incoming emails. Here is what he wrote (a bit out of context, but it should be able to understand): ,- | This is the QT I use to determine the language: | | ,- [ SLANG ] | | %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP='(?im-s)^(X-Text-Classification)\:\s*(.*)$'%- | | %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%HEADERS'%- | | %SUBPATT='2'=eng:%LANGUAGE='CSAPI BR':%LANGUAGE='CSAPI SP' | `- | | And in my reply templates I usually include this line: | | ,- [ ] | | %Cursor%QINCLUDE=SLANG%- | `- `- Install PopFile, start classifying emails depending on language used (it learns amazingly fast) and modify the SLANG QT to suite your needs and you should be able to achieve what you want. All credits goes to MAU. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Different greeting depending on .domain
Maurice Snellen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 17:00 Kian Andersen [KA] wrote: Yes you can. I've done this with Dutch / English for .nl and .anything else on http://thebat.kiap.org/ if you manage to read through the Dutch... KA I don't think I get it! I may have overestimated the overlap between Dutch and Danish. Also, getting things to work the way I use it, more or less requires using the whole macro-set explained on the site I mentioned which might be a bit difficult to implement if you can't understand the surrounding text. Aha I found it out! It is using %IF:%_DOMAIN= I am learning to use it now! -- Best regards Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Running Windows XP Professional SP2 (5.1.2600) Using LiteStep 0.24.7 RC3 with Non|Step Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list not updating.
Hello David, On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DE If I move out of the folder and back then it is highlighted correctly. DE I think that this is related to some one else on the list with colour DE group settings as well. Yes, I get it too and, as stated in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems to be a problem with this beta. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | and the best browser: Opera 7.60 build 7141 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgpztwTH79qMw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SetHeader macro
Hello NetVicious, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:13:01 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 02:13 +0700 GMT), NetVicious wrote: N Done. N You have it here: N https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3960 Seconded. And nice to see you finally! :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Deferred deletion problems again
Hi all, I have my accounts set to leave messages on the server for a couple of days. I got mail quota warnings that the limit of 2,000 messages were being approached for my lists account. I dispatched all messages and found, that there were more than seven days' worth of messages (setting is three days for that account), so I deleted a few hundred manually. Then I went back to 3.0.1.33 just to see that it doesn't delete the old messages on the server either. Did anyone else observe this? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM See headers for public key. pgpw2Leyqq7Bv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log in status bar grows to taskbar
Hello Zeynel, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:10 +0300 GMT (19/10/2004, 00:42 +0700 GMT), Zeynel wrote: Z Yes it already always opens upwards. But as I posted in another Z message in this thread, it grow _both_ upwards and downwards IF TB! Z check the new mail while this box open. I think this is because new Z lines added to log. I confirm now that it grows downwards as well on XP (in the office), as long as it is opened while mail check is still going on. Grows over the task bar. I haven't tried that on Win98 (at home) yet, forgot. -- Cheers, Thomas. 7. He who laughs last, probably has a back-up. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
a teeny weeny thing
Battyfolk, If user selects view un-read msgs only, TB! includes the msg that the cursor rests on -- which is not necessarily un-read. So, in fact, it doesn't seem that view only un-read msgs actually contains only un-read msgs. ?? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.2.1, BayesIt! 0.7.3, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Desktop TB!
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:52:24 +0200, Martin Schoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: English is not my native language - but the tone of your messages sounds strange over here. It sounds like: I proofed that there is no security problem - and now shut up. No worries. Perhaps it's better to not try and take things personally. Please note also that I never said shut up. I tried very much to remain cordial. If you need some other context on my presentation, search the archives for other posts from me. Furthermore, I never tried to prove anything (any moreso than you did), I stated clearly that it's an undecided matter with advocates on both sides. I really hope that you treat other security concerns not in the same manner... I'm treating this the same way I treat all speculation and anecdotal evidence. Give me something empirical, and I'll be satisfied. Until then, I see nothing to get all upset about. Should I be aware that the possibility exists? Yes. Should I also be aware that security consultants have something to gain by hyping up a matter? Yes. Should I be worried by all this? That's my own prerogative and it's an opinion I should generate on my own. And for what it's worth, this really isn't much an issue of security as it is an issue of privacy. Arguably, the two are intertwined, but I already gave Google permission to index my drive -- what's at stake is what they do with the data I gave them permission to search through. I'm sorry for having replied after I said I would not, but I felt it necessary to defend my character, so to speak. I'm not much a fan of being accused of having said things that I did not say (e.g., shut up) or doing things I did not do (e.g., try to prove GDS is secure). I suppose I should just rely on other list members knowing me well enough from other conversations to gauge my intent. Moderators, thank you for your patience on this matter. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Google Desktop TB!)
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:10:25 +0100, Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. Sorry Marck. I had replied further to the thread before I saw this message. Thank you for marking it a dead horse though. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish - edit subject line
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:40:28 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 00:40 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I am not a great friend of tinkering with message texts or headers of DH received messages, mainly for jurisdictional reasons. When messages DH can easily be edited in that way (change of headers and message text) They can be edited easily anyway, using external tools. That's why emails are only allowed in court if they are found on both the sender's and the receiver's computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Pray: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. (Ambrose Bierce) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Ian! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 8:12:09 AM you wrote: This must be something with the F-Secure firewall because I have Norton Personal Firewall and I have only been asked once (the first running) to allow access. I am not sure about this anymore since I've seen someone else posting the same problem with McAfee. I contacted F-Secure's support today, who assured me they haven't heard of any trouble with TB, yet. The former version (2004) had no problems (as to F-Secure's support). -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Anything that can be misunderstood will be. (David G. Myers) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Marcus! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 10:00:40 AM you wrote: And then contact F-Secure support. Done. I am currently investigating this further. BTW, waking Windows from hibernation (the Shift+leftmost button) abd starting the program also does not give me a warning. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request You cannot possibly buy affection; but the wise man is content renting it ... (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hi TBBeta, Done. I am currently investigating this further. BTW, waking Windows from hibernation (the Shift+leftmost button) abd starting the program also does not give me a warning. This makes me wondering all the time. From time to time I have spurious '' characters in the mails. I can't see why Dierk should add a '' before hibernation. Same in this mail from Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the archive on gmane there is no '' befort hibernation, but hitting F9 it is there as if it was in the original post. So what's going on here? -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Spurious characters in TB! mails [was Re: TB's EXE changed every time?]
Hello Raymund! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 12:16 PM, you wrote: RTT From time to time I have spurious '' characters in the mails. I RTT can't see why Dierk should add a ' before hibernation. Not happening here. No ' before hibernation. Neither in the View Folder TBBETA window nor in the View Source (F9) window. Maybe it's in the language-font choice for your machine? I'm running the multilingual interface and using American English. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Raymund! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 7:16:04 PM you wrote: This makes me wondering all the time. From time to time I have spurious '' characters in the mails. I can't see why Dierk should add a '' before hibernation. I haven't, it was a server in-between, kind of escaping the lying carets in that line. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Demokratie entsteht, wenn man nach Freiheit und Gleichheit aller Bürger strebt, die Zahl der Bürger, nicht aber ihren Charakter berücksichtigt. (Aristoteles) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, at 10:42:19 AM, Mary wrote: But on the default choices No [underlined o] View Mode they do not stick. Therefore, I think it is a bug. On my copy of TB there is no underlined 'o', they just have (No View Mode) in brackets. To me, that says simply no view mode, and I believe trying to make it one of your view modes is where your problem is. There just isn't any such thing as a (No View Mode)...at least that is how I look it. -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.1 on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Nick! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 12:45 PM, you wrote: MB But on the default choices No [underlined o] View Mode they do MB not stick. Therefore, I think it is a bug. NA On my copy of TB there is no underlined 'o', they just have (No NA View Mode) in brackets. To me, that says simply no view mode, and NA I believe trying to make it one of your view modes is where your NA problem is. There just isn't any such thing as a (No View NA Mode)...at least that is how I look it. So, that your No View Mode is not underlined with the lower case o and mine is, says to me that I may have a faulty download of TB! in which this has been conserved through all the versions, including the rars, which I have run since v. 2.11. However, if one cannot choose, in View/Global View Mode the option No View Mode, why is it there and why does it allow me to put a tick--a dot--beside it to choose it? To me, this is still a bug that I am offered to make a choice and allowed to make a choice when it is a choice that (by design?) won't work. What do you think? P.S. Did you do my steps to test? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hi Dierk, '' before hibernation. Why are there two '' now? I haven't, it was a server in-between, kind of escaping the lying carets in that line. In the mail from Peter I mentioned in my first post, there is nothing that I can see that could trigger such an escaping. And which server should have made the change? The mail from Mary is a bit weird, too. Instead of '' I see ' and that's the same in the archive. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Mary, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 8:53:55 AM, you wrote: MB In TB!'s main window click on View/Global View Mode (scroll way MB down)/No View Mode. MB Then, again in the TB! main window, click on View/Sort-by , and change MB your Sort-by choice to a different one. MB Go to another folder. Then come back to the previous folder. The MB change you set will not have been retained. The folder will have MB reverted to the one before you made the change. I see now what you mean. And actually what you are seeing here is what I would like to see when you click on on a header to change the sort order. See bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3949. Maybe our views of how Viewmodes work differ. Here is my take on it. Others can correct me where I am wrong. There are two types of viewmodes, global and on a per folder basis. Global viewmodes affect all accounts and all folders. So for example, if I have 4 Global viewmodes as follows: 1) No Viewmode 2) Generic 3) By Date 4) By Sender If I select one of the bottom three, then all of my folders will be sorted by the appropriate definition in that viewmode. If I on the other hand select the first one No Viewmode, then I will be able to select a different viewmode for each folder. (As an aside here: I believe that this is really the only selection necessary as I see no real reason for Global Viewmodes. This is just me though and others may have a good use for them.) Now, once you select No Viewmodes under the Global Option, any folder that is not using By Date or By Sender will automatically use the Generic Viewmode. In your explanation above I believe this is what you are describing. You are actually changing the Viewmode, albeit temporarily, of the particular viewmode of the folder you are currently viewing. If you really want a permanent change to that viewmode then you can use Right click on the header bar and select manage viewmodes. Having said all this I think that viewmodes need to be streamlined so they are easier to understand. When you click on the view menu you should get an option for Manage Viewmodes and do away with all those choices for sort etc. seeing as they only work temporarily. I may have this all wrong but I think this is the way it works and think it needs some changes. Any comments would be welcomed. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: a teeny weeny thing
On Tue 19-Oct-04 11:23am -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: If user selects view un-read msgs only, TB! includes the msg that the cursor rests on -- which is not necessarily un-read. So, in fact, it doesn't seem that view only un-read msgs actually contains only un-read msgs. I consider this a nice feature. I have my mail marked read after 1 second. For example, without this feature, an unread message could be marked read and new mail could come in - hiding the message that hasn't actually been read yet. It also provides a starting point to begin reading (if you sort by received date with newest last). -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 1:09 PM, you wrote: SC I may have this all wrong but I think this is the way it works and SC think it needs some changes. Any comments would be welcomed. I think you have laid it out very clearly and it fits into the conversation which Nick and I are having about it very well. As I said, it is no longer a problem for me. Even though I didn't even know where in Options/Preferences to find View Modes--way back when I was running v. 2.11--the hint from a kind poster on tbudl to set my parameters using the Column Names at the tops of the columns solved my problem. Set there, the parameters stick for that folder. However, at least one other person--the poster to tbudl this morning--was confused and frustrated by the drop-down View/Global View Modes menu. Therefore, it is a sort of bug--or at least a poor design--and worth the attention of the programmers before the release of the Christmas Edition. Only my tbbeta-newbie opinion. Further comments welcome. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Raymund! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 7:59:18 PM you wrote: '' before hibernation. Why are there two '' now? Because a server, most likely yours, added another one. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Die Trunkenheit vermehrt schön zwei schöne Dinge - Mut und Liebe. (Jean Paul) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.2.1
Hello, OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? UsingTheBat!v3.0.1.33onWindowsXP5.1Build2600 ServicePack2 -- Bestregards, Joe Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
Joe [J], wrote: J OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 What is now proved was once impossible. WILLIAM BLAKE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.1 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
Joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello, OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 You download this! http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com The Bat! 3.0.2.1 With Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Windows XP Professional SP2 (5.1.2600) LiteStep 0.24.7 RC3 With Non|Step Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:55:36 -0400, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
Hello Joe! On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 1:55 PM, you wrote: J ... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? Are you registered as a beta tester? If not, register. See the info at the bottom of this message and at the bottom of all posts to tbbeta. Here's the link, by Maxim, to this list in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar And this is what Maxim said was addressed in it: Begin copy-and-paste from Maxim Masiutin== [-] (#0003887) Name of header field of Capture/Delete addresses is not displayed as localised in NFS [-] (#0003865) Action sub-menu is not disable while selective download filter selected [-] (#0003842) Confirmation dialog for deleting folder displays Chats folder name like $CHAT$ [-] (#0003889) Micro-Editor, selective shift/arrow button quoting from RTV, Smileys enabled, Smiley handles are not quoted. [-] (#0003833) TB! steals focus after opening browser from URL in a message on next automatic POP mail retrieval [-] (#0003783) html message from Amazon not correctly shown in RC2 [-] (#0003878) Help button in dialog Input registration key opens topic Forward/Redirect of multiple messages [-] (#0003869) Troubles with automatic spell checking in non-English languages [-] (#0003848) Sorting office isn't updated when account name changes [-] (#0003867) NFS: Incorrect rule creation for read messages [*] Forward messages as attachments option is by default ON for new accounts. [-] Fixed a bug with ?? instead of a user name in the splash screen and the about box. == End copy-and-paste from Maxim Masiutin in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
Hello Raymund, On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 7:16:04 PM Raymund [RTT] wrote: from hibernation (the Shift+leftmost button) abd starting the program also does not give me a warning. RTT This makes me wondering all the time. From time to time I have spurious '' characters in the mails. I can't see why Dierk should add a '' before hibernation. Not before 'hibernation'. There's an additional '' in front of 'from'. RTT At the archive on gmane there is no '' befort hibernation, but RTT hitting F9 it is there as if it was in the original post. So what's RTT going on here? One mail server between list server and your mailbox inserted it to escape the 'from'. In a Unix mailbox messages are stored serialized. All in one text file. A new message is recognized by a line starting with 'From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date' (without the ' of course). As a lexical parse for syntactically completely correct line is much to expensive mail handling tools often parsed only for 'From' at start of line. For not confusing this tools and make message handling, storing and forwarding easier some old style servers escape a line starting with 'from' in message body by prepending the ''. HTH HAND -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) As soon as you pull out the pin, Mister Hand Grenade stops being your friend. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV while manually switching folders
Hi all, I clicked on a folder in the unread tab got this AV: Access violation at address 006F1121 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 034A4F88. When I switched focus away form The Bat!, it rapidly put up a succession of error messages and ultimately stopped responding. I had to kill TB! From except.log: 10/19/2004 12:23:56 PM MBase:11 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00402196 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 29BC0104 -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
Hello Joe, OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Different greeting depending on .domain
Marcus Ohlström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 15:12, Kian Andersen wrote: When speaking to English speaking people I use Hey or Hello When speaking to Danish people I use Hej Is it possible to have The Bat! make the different greetings depending on .dk or .everythingelse On a similar subject (choosing spell checker automatically), MAU suggested a brilliant solution making use of PopFile to classify the incoming emails. Here is what he wrote (a bit out of context, but it should be able to understand): ,- | This is the QT I use to determine the language: | | ,- [ SLANG ] | | %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP='(?im-s)^(X-Text-Classification)\:\s*(.*)$'%- | | %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%HEADERS'%- | | %SUBPATT='2'=eng:%LANGUAGE='CSAPI BR':%LANGUAGE='CSAPI SP' | `- | | And in my reply templates I usually include this line: | | ,- [ ] | | %Cursor%QINCLUDE=SLANG%- | `- `- Install PopFile, start classifying emails depending on language used (it learns amazingly fast) and modify the SLANG QT to suite your needs and you should be able to achieve what you want. All credits goes to MAU. Hello, I don't know what PopFile is but I have gotten it working! Automatic changing of: Intro, Reply, Forward, Sig and Spell Checking! Macros rule this world! -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com The Bat! 3.0.2.1 With Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Windows XP Professional SP2 (5.1.2600) LiteStep 0.24.7 RC3 With Non|Step Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Different greeting depending on .domain
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 22:12, Kian Andersen wrote: I don't know what PopFile is but I have gotten it working! Automatic changing of: Intro, Reply, Forward, Sig and Spell Checking! Macros rule this world! The do, indeed :-) How did you solve your problem? As beautiful I consider MAU's solution, I haven't implemented it yet. I will, eventually, but until then, I would like to have a look at your macros if that's OK with you. -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) You seem to have messed up your signature delimiter while editing your templates. Add the trailing space again and you will avoid a trout or two :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB's EXE changed every time?
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 21:22, Peter Ouwehand wrote: RTT Why are there two '' now? Here, TB added a greater-than sign in between the apostrophes after starting a reply to you msg mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A bug perhaps? No, it's because the '' is early enough in the line to make TB! believe it is indication this is an answer. To change sensitiveness, lower the value in Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Editor preferences | Quote name limit. This is also the reason I delimit configuration paths with '|' and not with '-' as I used to (I got the idea from Marck, but I suppose he is doing it by the same reasons). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Different greeting depending on .domain
Marcus Ohlström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 22:12, Kian Andersen wrote: I don't know what PopFile is but I have gotten it working! Automatic changing of: Intro, Reply, Forward, Sig and Spell Checking! Macros rule this world! The do, indeed :-) How did you solve your problem? As beautiful I consider MAU's solution, I haven't implemented it yet. I will, eventually, but until then, I would like to have a look at your macros if that's OK with you. It look very much like the site Maurice Snellen link to NEW MESSAGE: %SETPATTREGEXP('(?i).*\.(.*)$')%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%TOADDR)%- %_DOMAIN=%SUBPATT(1)%- %IF:%_DOMAIN=dk:Hej:Hello The spell macro is build into The Bat! I use SIG QT's: SIG_DK and SIG_EN %IF:%_DOMAIN=dk:%QINCLUDE(SIG_DK):%QINCLUDE(SIG_EN) And in the QT make the templates like you want and add %LANGUAGE=XX change XX to the language of choice (full list is in help) -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) You seem to have messed up your signature delimiter while editing your templates. Add the trailing space again and you will avoid a trout or two :-) Yes I did, i hope it has been fixed! I you need more don't hesitate to contact me! -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com The Bat! 3.0.2.1 With Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Windows XP Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) LiteStep 0.24.7 RC3 With Non|Step Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! stopped responding doing...?
Hi all, I had TB! 3.0.2.1 running in the background doing its thing while I worked in other apps. I tried switching back to it and it had a completely blank main window and an hourglass. I waited for several minutes finally had to kill it. I have no idea what it was doing at the time it froze. It automatically checks several POP accounts fairly frequently, but there was no Connection Centre window open. I've given up on 3.0.2.1. Hopefully, 3.0.1.33 is more stable. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.2.1 Folders lost - cannot be retrieved
Hello beta testers. Due to the renaming bug (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3848), things got really messed up here. Anyway, restored the account name and all filters (a lot of work). One issue persists: I cannot find my folders again. They are on disk but Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L does nothing. If I make new folders with the old names, the folders appear - but only until I close TB! and restart. Then they are gone again. It seems as if some file has a list of folders in it and it doesn't get updated by TB! Any ideas? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.2.1 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 5.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! stopped responding doing...?
Hello George, On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 6:33:58 PM you wrote: I had TB! 3.0.2.1 running in the background doing its thing while I worked in other apps. I tried switching back to it and it had a completely blank main window and an hourglass. I waited for several minutes finally had to kill it. I have no idea what it was doing at the time it froze. It automatically checks several POP accounts fairly frequently, but there was no Connection Centre window open. I've given up on 3.0.2.1. Hopefully, 3.0.1.33 is more stable. Same here this beta seems to be one of the buggiest. -- Tim Casten,ZDC National Air Traffic Controllers Association Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Joe wrote: OK, I give up... how do you get 3.0.2.1 ? Never mind the RitLabs site, just add the following URL to your Favourites: http://bat-mail.de.vu/ Arjan -- [Non-text portions etc] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.1
Hello Arjan, on Wednesday, 20. October 2004, at 01:08:36 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding 3.0.2.1: http://bat-mail.de.vu/ or http://www.thebatworld.de or http://www.batworld.net -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.0.2.1 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de pgpQ92R3JsUDY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 8:53:55 AM [GMT -0500], Mary Bull wrote: In TB!'s main window click on View/Global View Mode (scroll way down)/No View Mode. Already selected. Then, again in the TB! main window, click on View/Sort-by , and change your Sort-by choice to a different one. I have all my folders using a view mode that I had created, so I selected a folder at set it to use 'no view mode'. I then changed the sorting to something else. Go to another folder. Then come back to the previous folder. The change you set will not have been retained. The folder will have reverted to the one before you made the change. I can't duplicate this problem. I don't know if it's because I have other folders using specified view modes or because I have other view modes defined. It is so hard for me to tell things clearly! Please ask some more, if I haven't explained the problem well. Actually, you were quite clear. :) -- -= Allie =- . For exercise, men can walk. Women talk. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Bug Column Settings do not stick, using No View Mode
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 12:53:36 PM [GMT -0500], Mary Bull wrote: However, if one cannot choose, in View/Global View Mode the option No View Mode, why is it there and why does it allow me to put a tick--a dot--beside it to choose it? You can choose it. What you're doing when you choose this option is specifying that you do not wish all your folders to be using a single view mode. You're freeing up the folders to be configured to use their own specific view modes. I have that options selected. However, for each folder, there's a particular View Mode selected. For my discussion list folders, I have them set to thread by references and have the columns set up for that. For others I have them set to an unthreaded type view mode. For my sent and outbox folders, I have another view mode configured for them. If I had defined a particular global view mode, then it would take over and I couldn't define a specific and unique view mode for any one folder. -- -= Allie =- . For exercise, men can walk. Women talk. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list not updating.
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 8:59:41 AM [GMT -0500], David Elliott wrote: I have a manual filter that 1) exports a message. 2) calls notepad to edit the message. 3) Imports the message. It also mark's the message as read so that I can see it has been auctioned. When the filer is finished the highlighted message in the message list has not been updated as read. I cannot duplicate that problem here. The message is immediately flagged as read here. It may be a POP issue. I'm using IMAP accounts here. shrug I even changed the order in which the actions are carried out. I put the mark message read action at the beginning and at the end of the filter. I cannot duplicate the problem either way. I think that this is related to some one else on the list with colour group settings as well. Perhaps. -- -= Allie =- . It's as easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950... __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! stopped responding doing...?
Hello Tim! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004 at 1:28:09 AM you wrote: Same here this beta seems to be one of the buggiest. Not over here. Only encountered my old MT folder problem and the business with my current firewall, which may be more related to F-Secure than to TB. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Ein politischer Kommentar? - Salzflecken bekommt man am besten mit Rotwein raus. (Aleks Papst) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Perl to RegExp
I posted the following message to one of the TB support forums, but - after 24 hours - have received no response. It does not seem that the three relatively new forums are much in use. So let me try this request for help here. As I understand, the TB regular expressions are based on or at least very similar to Perl. So here is my question/problem. I have a simple Perl script that does exactly what I want (although how it does it I do not entirely understand, because I don't know Perl). I want to get the same effect in a TB template. So what should it look like in the template? Here is the Perl: -- #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w # jaymail.pl while() { $blank++ if /^$/; if ($blank) { print; next; } print if /^(From|To|Subject): /; } -- Please rescue me from this quandary and make my life much, much easier. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro with TB Pro 3.0.1.33 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/