Re: Do not release v3.5.31

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 02:16:35 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, June 28,
2005 02:16 my local time) Vili wrote:

ZW>> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

> Thank you, Zygmunt!

You are welcome! Please confirm my bug note 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4842

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Re[2]: Do not release v3.5.31

[Vili]

Hello Zygmunt,

ZW> On Saturday, June 25, 2005, at 13:16:12 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, June 25, 2005
ZW> 13:16 my local time) Vili wrote:
MM>>> Is  3.5.31  generally better than 3.5.30? Should we update the MSI
MM>>> and the download page?
>> Before  you  dont  fix  this  bug,  DO NOT RELEASE IT. I sent into the
>> TBBETA list yesterday ( it is a MAJOR bug):
>> "3.5.31 cannot send/receive mails to/from MS Exchange server.
ZW> I confirm your observation (I notice your message exactly now, therefore
ZW> I wrote my own out of thread:
ZW> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re[2]: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Vili]

Hello Alexander,

>> How can you communicate with Exchange server using IMAP??? Is it
>> possible That needs MAPI, doesnt it?
ASK> MS Exchange is an email server. It can provide access from "outside" to its
ASK> mailboxes via IMAP and POP3, given that the IMAP and POP3 services are
ASK> running on the server side.

Nw, I learnt something. I thought that Exchange works with IMAP,
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Re: Message navigation shortcuts

[NetVicious]

domingo, 19 jun 2005 at 17:32, it seems you wrote:

> This enhancement is a major improvement from user POV. Using the
> spacebar alone for navigation just doesn't cut it for me since it forces
> you to scroll entire messages before being able to move to the next
> unread message.

I prefer this one ;-)

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4646

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Stuart!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 5:07 PM, you wrote:

> Point well taken. Maybe Mary's other suggestion is correct. After all
> she is the Rogue Queen. :)

No, no--Keeper of the Smileys, only! I have nothing to do with Rogues
or Roguemoticons.

Might be I'm the Idiot Queen! ;)

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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Mary Bull]

Hello NetVicious!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 5:11 PM, you wrote:

>> So, a BT note is definitely needed. What is polite to do here?
>> Should I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) to weigh back
>> in and perhaps write something and post us a link?

> I added a note to your BT. Sorry! Sorry, I went out this weekend and
> I didn't read all the TBUDL list yesterday.

I'm just glad that you don't mind that I posted the issue report on
the bug that you found.

You did set us all off on a long conversation about it, as you've
seen.

The important thing is that it's confirmed and assigned to Robo.

So, good work, NetVicious! And thanks for the added note to the BT
report. :)

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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 00:16:38 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, June 28, 2005
00:16 my local time) NetVicious wrote:

>> The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have.

> RT  fixed  it  in  the  new  LNG  (International  Pack) hours ago. The
> translators should translate the string in every language. The Spanish
> LNG was updated minutes ago ;-)

Polish updated translation was ready 5 hours ago, but it does not help :-)

This item must be also updated in the program itself, that's why we are
expecting new beta version...

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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[NetVicious]

domingo, 26 jun 2005 at 22:03, it seems you wrote:

> So, a BT note is definitely needed. What is polite to do here? Should
> I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) to weigh back in and
> perhaps write something and post us a link?

I added a note to your BT. Sorry! Sorry, I went out this weekend and I
didn't read all the TBUDL list yesterday.

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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[NetVicious]

domingo, 26 jun 2005 at 00:54, it seems you wrote:

> The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have.

RT  fixed  it  in  the  new  LNG  (International  Pack) hours ago. The
translators should translate the string in every language. The Spanish
LNG was updated minutes ago ;-)

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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[NetVicious]

sábado, 25 jun 2005 at 20:36, it seems you wrote:

> Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am using TB without any
> language/international pack?

If  the  bug  it's  on  the  LNG  the Bug it's in the English official
language  of  RT and in the spanish LNG I translated that it's at 100%
of translation now.

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  June 27, 2005 at 23:53:16 GMT +0200

ASK> If your picture is in the address book, it'll will show up for all sent
ASK> mails that are sent (from an email address that is in the address book
ASK> entry for yourself). If not all of the mail addresses are added to the AB
ASK> entry, that would explain why only *some* messages have the pictures, while
ASK> others haven't.


Point well taken. Maybe Mary's other suggestion is correct. After all
she is the Rogue Queen. :)

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Stuart Cuddy & everyone else,

on 27-Jun-2005 at 23:26 you (Stuart Cuddy) wrote:

> Do you have your picture set in your address book? If so it may be
> overriding the rougue.

I had the same idea.

However, I'm not entirely sure how Charlene meant it, because she writes:

> some of my sent mails showed my rogue

If your picture is in the address book, it'll will show up for all sent
mails that are sent (from an email address that is in the address book
entry for yourself). If not all of the mail addresses are added to the AB
entry, that would explain why only *some* messages have the pictures, while
others haven't.

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Re: Do not release v3.5.31

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Saturday, June 25, 2005, at 13:16:12 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, June 25, 2005
13:16 my local time) Vili wrote:

MM>> Is  3.5.31  generally better than 3.5.30? Should we update the MSI
MM>> and the download page?

> Before  you  dont  fix  this  bug,  DO NOT RELEASE IT. I sent into the
> TBBETA list yesterday ( it is a MAJOR bug):

> "3.5.31 cannot send/receive mails to/from MS Exchange server.

I confirm your observation (I notice your message exactly now, therefore
I wrote my own out of thread: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Charlene!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 4:16 PM, you wrote:

> I did a folder maintenance and came across a strange thing: some of my
> sent mails showed my rogue, which would be pretty normal if they had
> been sent from this account. But that specific account had no x- rogue
> in it's template included and yet I clearly saw my picture.

Charlene, any place in the body-text of a message, including the sig,
which has the handle of your Roguemoticon, that is ":c_f:" will call
your pic, provided there's no conflicting X-Rogue handle in the
headers. So, that's the first thing to check out--was there anything
similar to that handle in the body-text of those Sent messages?

Another thing is the possibility that you have configured your Address
Book (which is shared among all TB! accounts) to contain AB pics and
put your own pic file among those.

Those are the only two things that I know enough about to mention as
possible causes. And, never having put pics in my AB, I don't know
precisely how that is done.

Perhaps someone else can pick up there, with further information.

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Charlene Ferrara,

Monday, June 27, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :

>.. sometimes  I go to the desired account and hit
> F5, write my mail and attach the file before sending. So I can't be more
> specific, it might be the way I send a file or write a mail, but I am
> not sure about it at all.

Sometimes I have to change the active account manually while writing by
clicking on the name in the centre of the last line and select the one I
want to use.

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Re: 3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Charlene,

  A reminder of what Charlene Ferrara typed on:
  June 27, 2005 at 23:16:29 GMT +0200

CF> I did a folder maintenance and came across a strange thing: some of my
CF> sent mails showed my rogue, which would be pretty normal if they had
CF> been sent from this account.


Do you have your picture set in your address book? If so it may be
overriding the rougue.

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3.5.31 unsolicited rogue

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hello all,

I did a folder maintenance and came across a strange thing: some of my
sent mails showed my rogue, which would be pretty normal if they had
been sent from this account. But that specific account had no x- rogue
in it's template included and yet I clearly saw my picture.
I haven't done much further research yet, but can anyone see in her/his
sent-folders if this effect is only on my machine or if it might be
a real bug?

Sometimes I rightclick a file in windows explorer and send it via TB,
where we know that an active account is not always set (rightclick TB
tray-icon to see this), sometimes  I go to the desired account and hit
F5, write my mail and attach the file before sending. So I can't be more
specific, it might be the way I send a file or write a mail, but I am
not sure about it at all. Or did I miss something?
Individual settings in address book are no explanation either, the ones
I think of were to be sent without "%SetHeader("X-Rogue",":c_f:")%-"

Glad about any information about it!

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Re: 3.5.31 can not stop search on message finder

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 26-Jun-2005 at 23:36 you (Vili) wrote:

> Someone  has compared TB! search to Total Commander. That is bullshit.

Thank you, very kind.


> TC search is "dumb", just text search in a file. TB! search in RECORDS...
> That is true, that it should not hang... But it CANNOT be as fast as TC.

I added that the two can't be directly compared.

However, why does it search records? Maybe that approach is wrong. I am not
a programmer, but the TB messagebase file can be searched as a whole. Only
if there *is* a match somewhere, it can look up in the index in which
records the match is, and then show the result on screen.

Nevertheless - why did the same search took 5 seconds in 3.0.2.10 and >60
seconds in v3.5.x, which *is* close to the "dumb" TC search?

Another comparison - I just exported 5500+ messages from my TBBETA folder
as single .MSG files into a dedicated directory on my harddisk. Indexing
service is turned off, searching those 5500 *single* files via Windows
built-in search for a non-existent string (random gibberish) takes 25
seconds. Windows search, searching thru 5500 singles files is twice as fast
as TB's search.

Again, its not directly comparable, but it shows once more that TB's
current search performance is VERY poor.

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Re: IMAP: Long Pause when loading first message in large mailbox

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allie,

On 27-06-2005 02:56, you [AM] wrote in
:
AM> I just re-discovered how to enable verbose logging for an account.

(snip)

I don't have such large mailboxes as you know but I can sympathize.

AM> I don't know about everyone else and opinions on this would be nice.

AM> Having no feedback during this sort of activity is not nice, especially
AM> when the user is in the dark about what's happening. TB! does have a
AM> progress bar that comes up when message bodies are being loaded or when
AM> attachments are being retrieved.

I also think there is too little feedback with IMAP.

Ideally I would like feedback shown both in the CC and also in the
Status bar.

The same problem exists when copying messages into an IMAP account. No
feedback of the progress.

We need the moving bar in the CC for IMAP commands that lasts more than
typically 1 sec.

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Re: Do not release v3.5.31

[Peter Fjelsten]

Alexander,

On 27-06-2005 17:29, you [ASK] wrote in
:
ASK> However, this MAPI connection, I beg your pardon, it sucks. Its
ASK> better to connect to Exchange via IMAP. MAPI downloads *all*
ASK> messages on the server. MAPI access to Exchange can only be a
ASK> workaround. If TB would connect to the Exchange storage directly,
ASK> it would be a different story, but I'd say thats not so easy.

Exactly. When I first tried MAPI with Exchange I thought it would work
like with Outlook (i.e. mail stays server-side) but apparently it
didn't. All messages were downloaded like with POP3.

That's why I chose IMAP.

Is MAPI really supposed to behave as it does with TB!?

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Re: AV in Network and Administration

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Peter Meyns & everyone else,

on 27-Jun-2005 at 20:45 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

> in Options -- Network and Administration I cannot change anything (see
> attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window leaves the cursor as the
> hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and TB! moves on fine.

No problem here.

Must be the color scheme you're using! :-)
SCNR

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Re[2]: IMAP: Long Pause when loading first message in large mailbox

[Allie Martin]

On Monday, June 27, 2005, at 09:05 AM, 9Val wrote:

AM>> I also question the efficiency of the flag updating. It makes having
AM>> large IMAP mailbox prohibitive when it really shouldn't be. I'm hoping
AM>> that this can be optimised somehow.

> Just finished some optimizations, they will be available very soon  

Excellent. I'll be happy to test drive that enhancement. :)

I'm now back to TB! almost full-time, so you have my testing time all
the way now.

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Re: IMAP: Long Pause when loading first message in large mailbox

[Tony Boom]

--On Monday, June 27, 2005 7:52 pm +0100 Clive Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



A progress bar would
be useful BUT the real solution is to make IMAP work better!


Why, what's wrong with it as it is?   :)

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Re: IMAP: Long Pause when loading first message in large mailbox

[Clive Taylor]

Hello Allie,

Monday, June 27, 2005, 1:56:32 AM, you wrote:

> I don't know about everyone else and opinions on this would be nice.

This is my biggest single grievance with TB.

> Having no feedback during this sort of activity is not nice,
> especially when the user is in the dark about what's happening.

On most occasions I lose patience with TB, close it down and open my
preferred mailer to read the messages. It's not uncommon to have to
wait five minutes while TB faffs about and I often resort to bringing up
Task Manager to see whether the prog has crashed. A progress bar would
be useful BUT the real solution is to make IMAP work better!

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AV in Network and Administration

[Peter Meyns]

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Hi all,

I didn't find the time yet to follow all the discussion about the
latest version here or on BT, and I'm not sure if I will, so there is
a good chance that I may have missed this bug being mentioned.

I installed The Bat! freshly on my notebook from the
thebat_pro_3-5-30.msi and restored my backup. Then I updated to
3.5.0.31.

It runs well so far, but one thing annoys me:

in Options -- Network and Administration I cannot change anything (see
attachment). Clicking ok on the AV window leaves the cursor as the
hourglass, but I can click Cancel anyway, and TB! moves on fine.

I hope I'll get to keeping up with the current development. :-)

BTW, GnuPG support hasn't improved. I still can't sign this message
from within The Bat!, but that's worth another thread...

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Monday, June 27, 2005, at 15:09:05 [UTC+0300] (Monday, June 27, 2005
14:09 my local time) 9Val wrote:

BM>> Suppose I have a folder with full name:

BM>> \\Bill\Lists\foo

BM>> The macro only returns:  foo

> It  works  as  expected,  you  can check the same macro in new message
> template and it will return the same result. But you have a good point
> - create new macro for getting full folder name

It seems this wish was published on BT, but I cannot find it now. Such
macro which returns full path to the message (including all folder and
subfolders strings) will be very useful. Information on this path exists in
message database and can be retrieved with magic Ctrl+Ins shortcut. So, give
it to the user...

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Re: A little roadmap

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello 9Val,

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:22:24 +0300 GMT (27/06/2005, 15:22 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:

TF>> I still cannot assign a short-cut to message encodings.
9> ...
TF>> Also, I cannot assign a short-cut to the interface language.

9> It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found workaround.

Thanks for your reply, it's very honest. I'll be looking forward to
any better news, though.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Bill McCarthy]

On Mon 27-Jun-05 7:09am -0500, 9Val wrote:

>>> [-] NFS: (#0004808) %FolderName macro didn't worked
>
BM>> It still doesn't work properly.
>
BM>> Suppose I have a folder with full name:
>
BM>> \\Bill\Lists\foo
>
BM>> The macro only returns:  foo
>
> It  works  as  expected,  you  can check the same macro in new message
> template and it will return the same result. But you have a good point
> - create new macro for getting full folder name

Yes, I figured it was WAD.  However without having
access to the full name, I am forced (as a work-around)
to name all folders in all accounts (that are not off
the root) uniquely and to have a complicated IF ..
ELSEIF .. ELSEIF .. etc. structure to build full names
for TB!'s IMPORT option.

Please add a new macro, if you think the current one is
actually useful.  [Note: returning a full name can be
manipulated to produce the current output - the reverse
is not true.]

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Re: Do not release v3.5.31

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 25-Jun-2005 at 13:16 you (Vili) wrote:

> "3.5.31 cannot send/receive mails to/from MS Exchange server.

I can't confirm this one, but something's definitely screwed up here. I
connect to MS Exchange 2003 in our AD using MAPI. I started to download
messages. My mailbox on our server contains about 16k messages. TB started
downloading these, but at a certain point, it began to crap out, one error
after the other (something like "an part imported as zero length").

I had to quit the session from the task manager manually. I'll look up the
log tomorrow, I didn't have time for this today at work. I didn't try
sending thru the Exchsvr, either.

However, this MAPI connection, I beg your pardon, it sucks. Its better to
connect to Exchange via IMAP. MAPI downloads *all* messages on the server.
MAPI access to Exchange can only be a workaround. If TB would connect to
the Exchange storage directly, it would be a different story, but I'd say
thats not so easy.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 27-Jun-2005 at 16:37 you (Vili) wrote:

> How can you communicate with Exchange server using IMAP??? Is it 
> possible That needs MAPI, doesnt it?

MS Exchange is an email server. It can provide access from "outside" to its
mailboxes via IMAP and POP3, given that the IMAP and POP3 services are
running on the server side.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Vili]

>V> Did you manage to download the emails from the MAPI szerver?
>It have set up TB! to communicate with the company Exchange server 
using
>the IMAP protocol (under Account Properties > Transport).
>I have no problems with getting/sending mail at all.
>I do not know if it works with the MAPI protocol as I haven't tried
>this.

How can you communicate with Exchange server using IMAP??? Is it 
possible That needs MAPI, doesnt it?

Anyway, so it seems to me that MAPI does not work, as I proposed,
as no one said that it works :)))

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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Natasha V Pearce]

Hi Mary

> I  got  a BT e-mail created 7:14:37 (my time--U.S. Central Daylight time zone)
> which says the issue has been Assigned. Yay! To Robo.

> We're in good hands, just as you said! :girlcheer:

I got this one, too. And please allow me to join you in the :girlcheer: !

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Re: IMAP: Long Pause when loading first message in large mailbox

[9Val]

Hi Allie,  

AM> On checking the logs, I see that TB! rechecks the flag status for all
AM> messages in the mailbox. So if there are 4000 message, the flags for all
AM> those messages seem to be rechecked and updated as needed. This happens
AM> for a mailbox every time I select the mailbox after new messages have
AM> been added.

Actually,  it  works  as  designed  - while using concurently the same
account both (or more) users should have only recent flags.

AM> I also question the efficiency of the flag updating. It makes having
AM> large IMAP mailbox prohibitive when it really shouldn't be. I'm hoping
AM> that this can be optimised somehow.

Just finished some optimizations, they will be available very soon :P

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Natasha V Pearce]

Hi Mary

> I  don't  run any plug-ins, or any anti-spam software whatsoever. And, I don't
> have the habit of looking in the directory each time I change versions.

I'm  running anti-spam and anti-virus plug-ins, and until this release had never
had  a problem. It was quite a surprise when this one disappeared. On the bright
side, this could just be the incentive I've been looking for to switch to K9. :)

> I may now just take a peek there before posting "all is well." :)

Good  plan.  I'm  obsessive  about  backing  up, so it's easy for me to check my
previous image against the current directory and registry entries.

> I meant it so. Natasha "Sharp Eyes," I thought, as soon as I saw your second
> post in re 3.5.31.

:)

>> Back in the 'good' old days, programs used to be like the Roman army: lots of
>> lines  of  code and subroutines all marching in one direction. So it was easy
>> to  see  when one line was out of step. Nowadays, programs are more like busy
>> traffic systems, with many independent pieces of code all trying to get where
>> they want to go without killing other bits of code on the way.

> This is even better than your "watermelon" story!! :)

Oh,  no!  Now  I'm  raising the bar and people will expect me to be even funnier
next time! :)


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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Mary Bull]

Hello Natasha!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 8:19 AM, you wrote:

>> Marek Mikus put "Confirmed" to the issue, immediately, as you may
>> have noticed. So I'm hopeful the matter will get further attention
>> from the development team.

> Here's hoping. Customisation is still a major focus for the team, so
> I think we're in good hands and things will be back on track soon.
> And every time we hit a rough spot, we're providing good feedback,
> which can only help.

I got a BT e-mail created 7:14:37 (my time--U.S. Central Daylight time
zone) which says the issue has been Assigned. Yay! To Robo.

We're in good hands, just as you said! :girlcheer:

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Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: Volker Ahrendt · 2005-06-19 · 23:14 h (CET)]

Hello, Volker!

>>> VA>There are *two* entries: Max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> VA> Müller

>>> Confirmed, and the message doesn't get sent. Reason: The second
>>> line is interpreted as recipient "Müller " (no quotes)
>>> which is not a valid address.

>>> Solution: TB should keep the single/double quotes.

>> => 

> Still occurs in 3.5.30. :-(

In 3.5.0.31 (3.5.31!?), too.

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Re: OT Couth Mary [Re: 3.5.30 MSI]

[Natasha V Pearce]

Hi Avi

>> Depending  on  one's  upbringing, some words will be either rude or blatantly
>> offensive,  while  a  different  culture  may consider the same words nothing
>> special.

My  personal  opinion, FWIW, is that cultural expectations go far beyond what is
or isn't considered appropriate language. Not that I in any way wish to diminish
the importance of that factor, just that I believe it's only the most obvious of
a network of potential traps in cross-cultural communication.

Some  cultures, for example, prefer directness over what others would term tact.
Then  again, for some people, the direct approach can be extremely offensive. To
compound  this,  what may or may not seem tactful, direct, harsh or abrasive may
depend  upon  linguistic  structures  and stylistic nuances which differ between
languages  (and  even dialects or regional variations), countries, classes, etc.
Add  this  to  the  burden  of communicating outside ones first language and the
chances  of  misinterpreting/being misinterpreted in some way grow considerably.
I've  seen  this  cause  serious  problems  even  in face-to-face communication:
online,   with   many   fewer   non-verbal   cues   (which  admitedly  are  also
culturally-dependent) the problem increases yet further.

OTOH,  cultural  diversity is a fantastic opportunity to break the boundaries of
our  own  ideas and explore new avenues of perception and communication. Perhaps
sometimes  we'll  get  things wrong. Perhaps, if we're lucky, someone will point
this out to us when we do. And thereby we grow.

>> In other words, fairness in  moderation is a lost cause :-)

> Hggdh, courtesy is fine, but I disagree that it is impossible to be fair.

ICAM.  And, on the whole, the TB lists are among the fairest I know - especially
bearing   in   mind  the  diversity  of  participating  cultures.  I'd  say  the
standardised  and non-inflamatory moderation messages go a long way towards this
fairness.

> But  a  good  moderator must be like a judge - either s/he sets aside personal
> likes and dislikes or s/he must recuse herself/himself. And, even then, should
> a  mistake occur (as is eventually somewhat inevitable), then a moderator must
> realize  that s/he is just a human being. At that time s/he must come down off
> her/his  elevated seat and humbly apologize. An apology at such times actually
> enhances her/his prestige rather than diminishes it.

Agreed,  and  I've  seen  some  good examples recently where our moderators (and
please  let me say here that I personally think they do great work!) have done a
very  good job of explaining their actions and even apologising when they know a
trout  is  deserved,  say,  more  by a thread than by a specific poster. I don't
recall  seeing  any  examples  of  moderation  being  conducted  on the basis of
personal prejudice. (But then, I would say that, not having been 'not singled
out'. :) )

>> But, let's move on to bias. Every moderator is biased. This is no big deal --
>> we  are  *all*  biased,  one  way or another --, see above. The difference is
>> understanding   that   one   is  biased,  and  trying  to  find  out  if  the
>> inbred/developed bias is acceptable (to one's ethical being).

Agreed.

>> So, yes, Marck is biased. So are you. So am I. Yet I do not find Marck's bias
>> selective on whom gets the whip. He is doing what he is tasked to and, as far
>> as I can see, doing it as correctly as possible, even if I do not completely
>> agree with it. And... the fact that I do not agree with it does not bring any
>> demerit to his moderation.

> there seems to be some contradiction in your argument. I don't see how you can
> say  that you disagree with what someone is doing and then express the opinion
> that it is being done "as correctly as possible".

Not  wishing  to  put  words in anyone else's keyboard, but I know I've had this
experience.  I  see a moderator step in (or not) and think perhaps I'd have done
things  differently.  This  doesn't  mean  things  *should*  be/have  been  done
differently;  there's  just more than one approach, and several may be perfectly
valid in any given situation.

> We  all  know how diligent the moderators are about calling people to task for
> top-posting  and  neglecting  the use of a sig delimiter. But when it comes to
> the  area  of  "bad  language"  or  "swearing",  a huge amount of it just gets
> ignored.

Top  posting  and  lack of cutlines are both straightforward issues: binary, one
might  say.  Bad language, I suppose, is not: so many different lines that might
be  crossed,  but  only the moderators have the chalk to draw them with. I think
they  do  the  best  they  can under a very complex set of sometimes-conflicting
social  'rules'.  Perhaps our discussion of this topic will make a difference to
prosecution of this policy (or people's opinions on the subject) in the future.

> Okay, I can live with that. But to call me down for "swearing" and use of "bad
> language"  whe

Re: Blank Menuitem

[Natasha V Pearce]

Hi Mary

> I  did read that, and wished I had taken your approach. However, it was a good
> review for me to have to deal again with Customise in order to get my previous
> Customization  back--and  not  unbearably onerous, since I don't use shortcuts
> and  had  only  removed  some  icons from the Standard toolbar for functions I
> rarely want to use.

I've changed almost all the shortcuts, and quite a few of my menus have either
added or subtracted items. It took me quite a while. :)

> Thank you very much for the supporting note!

Very pleased to support.

> Marek  Mikus  put  "Confirmed"  to  the  issue,  immediately,  as you may have
> noticed.  So  I'm  hopeful  the  matter  will  get  further attention from the
> development team.

Here's  hoping.  Customisation  is  still a major focus for the team, so I think
we're in good hands and things will be back on track soon. And every time we hit
a rough spot, we're providing good feedback, which can only help.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Peter Fjelsten]

Vili,

On 27-06-2005 14:16, you [V] wrote in
:
V> Sorry, now I checked your sig... Hmm, then I dont know what the
V> problem is. I just replaced the DLL and the EXE of v30 with the v31,
V> and it stopped working for me...

V> Did you manage to download the emails from the MAPI szerver?

It have set up TB! to communicate with the company Exchange server using
the IMAP protocol (under Account Properties > Transport).

I have no problems with getting/sending mail at all.

I do not know if it works with the MAPI protocol as I haven't tried
this.

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Re[2]: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Vili]

Hello Peter,

V>> I am happy that you will try, and you will see, it does not work. I am
V>> againts  public  release  because  of the reasons you could read in my
V>> prev. mail.
PF> For me TB! works with an Exchange server (see sig) - with the IMAP
PF> protocol.

Sorry, now I checked your sig... Hmm, then I dont know what the
problem is. I just replaced the DLL and the EXE of v30 with the v31,
and it stopped working for me...

Did you manage to download the emails from the MAPI szerver?

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Re[2]: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Vili]

Hello Peter,

PF> On 26-06-2005 13:36, you [V] wrote in
PF> :
 If you were an Exchange user like Vili you would probably think
 otherwise.
ASK>>> Please don't mix things up. The objection towards the public release of 
.31
ASK>>> is valid, and I never said anything else.
ASK>>> I will try the Exchange connectivity tomorrow at work because I *am* an
ASK>>> Exchange user, but I'm still using .26 or .30.
V>> I am happy that you will try, and you will see, it does not work. I am
V>> againts  public  release  because  of the reasons you could read in my
V>> prev. mail.
PF> For me TB! works with an Exchange server (see sig) - with the IMAP
PF> protocol.

??? Communication with Exchange needs MAPI. What do you mean that
"with the IMAP protocol"?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[9Val]

Hi Bill,  

>> [-] NFS: (#0004808) %FolderName macro didn't worked

BM> It still doesn't work properly.

BM> Suppose I have a folder with full name:

BM> \\Bill\Lists\foo

BM> The macro only returns:  foo

It  works  as  expected,  you  can check the same macro in new message
template and it will return the same result. But you have a good point
- create new macro for getting full folder name

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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Mary Bull]

Hello MAU!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 4:12 AM, you wrote:

   I have one blank item in the Specials menu.
   See attachment
M>>> Not here. See attachment.

>> Perhaps you don't have a tbuser.def file installed?
> Yes, I do have a tbuser.def file. With 497 lines.

I wrote a bug note for this issue,
http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4835 .

Marek Mikus confirmed the deficiency immediately and several who
experienced the bug also put supporting notes.

In my report, I speculated that perhaps people who had at some point
deleted a pre-3.5 tbuser.def did not have the conflict.

I had never had occasion to delete a tbuser.def file, until I began
experimenting to look for the cause of this bug. But I don't have
information about others' history on this, so it's a mere
"brainstorming" type of hypothesis I am making.

What do you think about it?

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Re: Blank Menuitem

[Mary Bull]

Hello Natasha!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 12:24 AM, you wrote:

>> ... Wasn't sure I had been clear.
> I certainly found it very clear.

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.

> I've added a note detailing my own experiments with tbuser.def.
> Basically, my only solution at the moment (since I don't want to
> re-key all my customisations) is to remove that item using
> View|Toolbars|Customise. Which works for me only because I don't use
> that feature... yet. :)

I did read that, and wished I had taken your approach. However, it was
a good review for me to have to deal again with Customise in order to
get my previous Customization back--and not unbearably onerous, since
I don't use shortcuts and had only removed some icons from the
Standard toolbar for functions I rarely want to use.

Thank you very much for the supporting note!

Marek Mikus put "Confirmed" to the issue, immediately, as you may have
noticed. So I'm hopeful the matter will get further attention from the
development team.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Mary Bull]

Hello Natasha!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 12:42 AM, you wrote:

> BayesIt error was detected a few days later after the release
 I think that Natasha spotted it within a few hours
>>> I wanted to recant my earlier acceptance, and in so doing I made
>>> it more difficult than it should have been for Maxim to notice my
>>> report.

>> But, at least you did recant!

> Absolutely. I felt I'd jumped the gun with my original post and
> wasn't prepared to let it stand uncorrected.

Well, we like to let the developers know that the newest-offered beta
is at least up and running. :) I posted right away that I was having
no problems, just as you did. I don't run any plug-ins, or any
anti-spam software whatsoever. And, I don't have the habit of looking
in the directory each time I change versions.

I may now just take a peek there before posting "all is well." :)

>> So--even though I imposed on our friendship, Natasha, by citing
>> your post--I appreciate immensely the sweet spirit in which you
>> have replied to my comment.

> Fear not. I didn't interpret it by any means as an imposition. It
> was no more than the truth, after all. And you also pointed out my
> work in finding the problem in the first place, which I took rather
> as a compliment.

I meant it so. Natasha "Sharp Eyes," I thought, as soon as I saw your
second post in re 3.5.31.

>>> BTW, anyone have a handy macro to quote one message but reply to
>>> the initiator of the thread to which it belongs?
>> I hope you will get a response to this. I would find such a macro
>> handy, also.

> I'll probably try to create one myself if no-one already has such a
> thing. When I get the time, that is.

:)

> [Snipped my assessment of TB's complexity, etc.]

>> Thanks--it makes quite a few things clearer to me.

> Glad it helped. I find many programmers new to Windows and/or
> object-oriented programming take a long time to get used to this
> mode of thinking, so I thought it worth mentioning here. Back in the
> 'good' old days, programs used to be like the Roman army: lots of
> lines of code and subroutines all marching in one direction. So it
> was easy to see when one line was out of step. Nowadays, programs
> are more like busy traffic systems, with many independent pieces of
> code all trying to get where they want to go without killing other
> bits of code on the way.

This is even better than your "watermelon" story!! :)

>>> Agreed. Detail is as valuable in questions as it is in answers.

>> Very well put! May I steal that beautifully coined aphorism as a
>> tag line? :)

> Thank you - and feel free. :)

:bearhug:

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Mary Bull]

Hello 9Val!

On Monday, June 27, 2005, 4:06 AM, you wrote:

MB>> Whereas, Maxim had been announcing the previous few betas, 3.5.25,
MB>> 3.5.26-29, and 3.5.30.

MB>> So, I think 9Val did the misnumbering--or at the very least failed to
MB>> catch it, of this beta 3.5.0.31--because he had been away and the
MB>> change to th more "realistic" numbering system either escaped his
MB>> notice or he had a temporary lapse, a typo sort of thing, when he
MB>> either received the rar numbered with 0 (like 3.5.0.14 was), or
MB>> actually typed it in while writing his part of the code for 3.5.0.31
MB>> ([3.5.31], as I agree with you and others that it *should* be numbered.)

> That's  my fault, numbering system was changed and I without informing
> about it thought, that missing zero was a typo. ...

You're a real sweetie. It was a natural thing to have happen. And, I
didn't mind, personally, because I knew what was meant--that we were
proceeding from .30 to .31.

> ... BTW, current numbering
> system  doesn't  satisfy  me,  IMHO, it should be something like this:
> 3.50.31  (third  zero  jumped  to  second  number),  so if new release
> wouldn't  have enough changes to be 3.6, it could be numbered 3.51.xx.
> I  think  it wouldn't be easy to end-user to understand if 3.5.45 is a
> new  release  or still 3.5.3x fixes beta without being participated in
> beta-testing.

This is an important point.

For myself, I will be happy with whatever system the development team
decides to use. At present--just speaking for my own head--I keep the
order straight in my own perception by reading the last 2 digits. :)

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The Bat! 3.5.0.31 - problems with Exchange server

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

Hello all!

Last beta (3.5.0.31) has problems with message sending via Exchange
server. I am not able to send any message (receiving is possible).

Message sending worked correctly in previous versions. In my Exchange
account log I have on one PC following information.

!27/06/2005, 12:15:54: FETCH - MAPI.MapiInitialize HResult=80040106

On next PC with the same server I have different log message:

!27/06/2005, 12:16:08: SEND - Session.OpenMsgStore HResult=80010106

Replacing TB! with version 3.5.30 makes message sending possible.

Anyone else has similar experience?

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Re: Status bar giving wrong connection type

[Allie Martin]

On Monday, June 27, 2005 at 1:30:48 AM [GMT -0500], Manuel Breitfeld
wrote:

> Are you sure that status bar indication is for connection type? I'm
> nearly sure this area shows "Plain" or "OTFE", so indicates the OTFE
> use.

Ooops!!! Forget my little disturbance of the peace here.



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Re: Blank Menuitem

[MAU]

Hello Roger,

>>>   I have one blank item in the Specials menu.
>>>
>>>   See attachment
>>>
>
M>> Not here. See attachment.
>
> Perhaps you don't have a tbuser.def file installed?
>

Yes, I do have a tbuser.def file. With 497 lines.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[9Val]

Hi Mary,  

MB> Whereas, Maxim had been announcing the previous few betas, 3.5.25,
MB> 3.5.26-29, and 3.5.30.

MB> So, I think 9Val did the misnumbering--or at the very least failed to
MB> catch it, of this beta 3.5.0.31--because he had been away and the
MB> change to th more "realistic" numbering system either escaped his
MB> notice or he had a temporary lapse, a typo sort of thing, when he
MB> either received the rar numbered with 0 (like 3.5.0.14 was), or
MB> actually typed it in while writing his part of the code for 3.5.0.31
MB> ([3.5.31], as I agree with you and others that it *should* be numbered.)

That's  my fault, numbering system was changed and I without informing
about it thought, that missing zero was a typo. BTW, current numbering
system  doesn't  satisfy  me,  IMHO, it should be something like this:
3.50.31  (third  zero  jumped  to  second  number),  so if new release
wouldn't  have enough changes to be 3.6, it could be numbered 3.51.xx.
I  think  it wouldn't be easy to end-user to understand if 3.5.45 is a
new  release  or still 3.5.3x fixes beta without being participated in
beta-testing.

-- 

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Re: A little roadmap

[9Val]

Hi Thomas,  

TF> I still cannot assign a short-cut to message encodings.
...
TF> Also, I cannot assign a short-cut to the interface language.

It is limitation of new UI, we have not yet found workaround.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[9Val]

Hi Vilius,  

VS> I can't find it. Where it is hidden? ;)

Folder properties/Maximum number of message ...
Folder properties/Keep messages for ... days

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Re: Status bar giving wrong connection type

[Tony Boom]

--On Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:48 pm -0500 Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



This little buglet is just for Tony. :)


Tony's lost interest.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Peter Fjelsten]

Vili,

On 26-06-2005 13:36, you [V] wrote in
:
>>> If you were an Exchange user like Vili you would probably think
>>> otherwise.
ASK>> Please don't mix things up. The objection towards the public release of 
.31
ASK>> is valid, and I never said anything else.
ASK>> I will try the Exchange connectivity tomorrow at work because I *am* an
ASK>> Exchange user, but I'm still using .26 or .30.

V> I am happy that you will try, and you will see, it does not work. I am
V> againts  public  release  because  of the reasons you could read in my
V> prev. mail.

For me TB! works with an Exchange server (see sig) - with the IMAP
protocol.

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Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30

[Peter Fjelsten]

Gleason,

On 26-06-2005 04:47, you [GP] wrote in
:
  
GP> One problem that I have had for the last 10 betas or so is that I
GP> will often get a notice saying that TB was unable to prepare the
GP> message for uploading when trying to send email.  I am not out of
GP> disk space.  I did clear the outbox  cache.  Sometimes it takes
GP> three or four attempts to get the message to go.  I would say this
GP> problem is annoying enough to warrant attention soon.
 
I have told - and worked with - 9Val on this issue at least 10 betas.

I am sure he is aware of that problem. Hopefully, we'll get at fix for
that soon. It also annoys me a lot.

BTW. The problem is due to synchronisation issues - the error text is
not accurate (due to the bug).

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