Re:%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION displays a 10 on Windows 11
Hello Gleason, On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, at 12:36:59 [which was on Sunday at 17:36 where I live] you wrote: >>> the macro WINDOWSMAJORVERSION still displays a 10 even when The Bat is >>> running on Windows 11. >>> Anyone else seeing this? I updated the OS via Windows Update, not via clean >>> install. >>> Is is a TB! or a Windows-issue? >> It might be that 11 is the same as 10, except that 11 is a little closer to >> ms not allowing unsanctioned software like The Bat. >> You consented to exiting s mode, I take it. > I ask because I am a software developer who contemplates not > complying with draconian measures ms requires to be sanctioned. Go into a command prompt and type ver and you will get (something like this) Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22000.348] So it is still windows 10. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Kinda roadmap ;)
Dear Stefan, On Tue, 2 Jun 2020, at 00:48:18 [which was on Monday at 22:48 where I live] you wrote: < ... > > Now, it's time to reveal our development plans. At least, what I think > our current plan is. < ... > Sounds like a great time to get back onto the beta after sticking with the last version of 6 for a few years. Welcome back, and I am off to purchase a v9 license. :) -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver Version 9.1.18 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0.14393 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Hello Maxim, On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, at 22:15:14 [which was on Wednesday at 20:15 where I live] you wrote: Could you please test the The Bat! 5.1 MSI files and let us know if whey install well. http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-1-0.msi Installed and running. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.1.0.4 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:5.1.0.1
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, at 11:27:04 [which was on Friday at 09:27 where I live] you wrote: The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5101.rar Not installed and not running. My Reg code does not go to 5.1. So I have gone to the last stable / public release. -- Cheers David running TB! ver 5.0.36.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:5.1.0.1
Dear All, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, at 19:53:07 [which was on Saturday at 19:53 where I live] you wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, at 11:27:04 [which was on Friday at 09:27 where I live] you wrote: The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5101.rar Not installed and not running. My Reg code does not go to 5.1. So I have gone to the last stable / public release. In true Jack Nickolson style (The Shining) I'm Back Up and running! Thank you!! -- Cheers David running TB! ver 5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Windows Server 2008
Hello Maxim, On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, at 23:16:36 [which was on Wednesday at 05:16 where I live] you wrote: Does anybody run The Bat! under Windows Server 2008? Are there any problems under this operating system? I was up to a month ago, and had no problems. I had to change my OS for other reasons. It was the R2 64bit version. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 5.0.18.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Unprintable Characters in Folder names
Hello Tbbeta, On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, at 23:43:08 [which was on Saturday at 00:43 where I live] I wrote: OK so this is old version of TB!. I have gone up to 5 yet. I am waiting for it to settle down before I do. I wish I had not upgraded. V5 has more bugs in it that the first version I was using (1.37 I think). It is possible to create a folder with non printable characters if you highlight a message and press Ctrl+shift+F If you do and start it with * and use shift+ctrl+alt+l then you get extras folders. This is still present. And there some other bugs as well. The folder does not appear until you 'turn it off and turn it on again'. Filter any messages before you close the program and they disappear until you start the program again. -- Cheers David running TB! ver 5.0.12.9 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Current beta is 5.0.12.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Magic. The disappearing Bat (Still)
Hello Tbbeta, The TB! is really starting to annoy me. This was happening with previous versions, but I can not tell you when it started. When I move from one message to another (using CTRL + ) TB! disappears, in one of the quickest shutdowns possible (AKA crash). It was present in the first public release and it is still here. It does not happen every time but once or twice a day. The 'normal' practice of switching it off and on again goes not appear to help. This includes rebooting the laptop. This is with Normal folders with pop. :( -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Magic. The disappearing Bat (Still)
Hail RS, On Sun, 8 May 2011, at 15:39:21 [which was on Sunday at 08:39 where I live] you wrote: When I move from one message to another (using CTRL + ) TB! disappears, in one of the quickest shutdowns possible (AKA crash). The 'normal' practice of switching it off and on again goes not appear to help. This includes rebooting the laptop. Killing TB! process in Task Manager is not enough? After killing a process you should be able to restart TB! without restart. When I say it 'disappears', I mean that it is gone, no process is in the task manager, it is not running. (just like a Norwegian Blue parrot) -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Magic. The disappearing Bat
Hello Tbbeta, This version of TB! is really starting to annoy me. This was happening with previous versions, but I can not tell you when it started. When I move from one message to another (using CTRL + ) TB! disappears, in one of the quickest shutdowns possible (AKA crash). It was present in the first public release and it is still here. The 'normal' practice of switching it off and on again goes not apperar to help. I will not be on line for about a week so if any one requests info I will not be able to get back to you quickly. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.9.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Magic. The disappearing Bat
Dear Simon, On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, at 08:52:33 [which was on Tuesday at 12:52 where I live] you wrote: This version of TB! is really starting to annoy me. This was happening with previous versions, but I can not tell you when it started. When I move from one message to another (using CTRL + ) TB! disappears, in one of the quickest shutdowns possible (AKA crash). It was present in the first public release and it is still here. The 'normal' practice of switching it off and on again goes not apperar to help. I will not be on line for about a week so if any one requests info I will not be able to get back to you quickly. I can't reproduce this. Tried on virtual folders and normal folders. Both worked OK. I am using IMAP. The problem is that it does not happen every time. :( -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 5.0.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:5.0.9.3
Dear Maxim, On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, at 13:53:11 [which was on Sunday at 11:53 where I live] you wrote: The Bat! 5.0.9.3 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5093.rar What's new in 5.0.9.3 since 5.0.9.2: [*] When encrypting a message, The Bat! will no loger use SubjectKeyIdentifier for compatibility with other programs which do not support this structure. [-] Fixed an AV of previous beta (BETA issue) Either the closing down has been speeded up dramatically or TB! is crashing on exit. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.9.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.9.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Rick, On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, at 20:47:02 [which was on Sunday at 01:47 where I live] you wrote: DE And frankly I am disappointed. There are lot's of us who are disappointed ... It is a beta test group in order to FIND these issues so they can be fixed. Ok this is a beta list. But my 'Gripe' is that I am using the public release. They should be fixed before a public release. ... A reoccurring theme of TB! beta's and public release is that 'New features' are added with out fixing all the outstanding bugs. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Greetings Dwight, On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, at 07:37:59 [which was on Saturday at 13:37 where I live] you wrote: On Friday, April 15, 2011, 11:46:52 PM, David Elliott wrote: As far as I am concerned the only reeal difference between the last beta version of 4 and the first public version of 5 is the number of bugs that I encounter has gone up. It takes me back to the days of ver 1.3x when I first started using TB!. look at the change log As I said 'As far as I am concerned' -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello All, Since there was going to be no more developmet of Ver 4 as quoted in mid:274287867.20110408225...@ritlabs.com I decide to move to 5. I have taken the version publicly available from the web and installed straight over the 4.2.44.2. And frankly I am disappointed. 1 So far it has disappeared on me three times, in about 3 days of use. 2 Any thing like a smiley face :) appears as a square with the two bits of text characters in it. 3 Sort order in a lot of my folders has changed. So I needed to go through about 200 folders changing them back. 4 There is something else with the folders but I have not been able to place it yet. There are a few other very small things that make me feel uneasy using it, but I can not place what they are. As far as I am concerned the only reeal difference between the last beta version of 4 and the first public version of 5 is the number of bugs that I encounter has gone up. It takes me back to the days of ver 1.3x when I first started using TB!. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v4.2.44
Hello All, Since V5 is out in the wild, will there be any more development of ver 4? -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.44.2 - fix for transparent image
Hello Maxim, On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, at 01:28:07 [which was on Monday at 23:28 where I live] you wrote: 4.2.44.2 fixes transparent images in HTML and a rare AV when printing to non-default printer. This AV was introduced in version 1.62r. - If you have used 4.2.42 or earlier, just install the follwing MSIs over. This was me. ... -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unprintable Characters in Folder names
Hello All, OK so this is old version of TB!. I have gone up to 5 yet. I am waiting for it to settle down before I do. It is possible to create a folder with non printable characters if you highlight a message and press Ctrl+shift+F If you do and start it with * and use shift+ctrl+alt+l then you get extras folders. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.2.42 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.142 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.38 UR
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, at 22:44:17 [which was on Sunday at 20:44 where I live] you wrote: Could you please test 4.2.38 so we could release it on the website and continue the development ov v5? Up and running here. FYI Have never gone 5. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 5.0.0.119 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with ODate
Hello Tbbeta, This might be me in misunderstanding but I think that there is a problem with the %ODate. Here are the message headers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Return-Path: xx...@x.xxx.xx Delivery-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:04:22 +0100 Received: from smtp3.clear.net.nz (smtp3.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.64]) by mx.kundenserver.de (node=mxbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lfz7z-1Nkrp031z9-00p8sV for xx...@xx.xxx; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:04:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (xx.dsl.telstraclear.net [xx]) by smtp3.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTPA id 0kvj000re6b5o...@smtp3.clear.net.nz for xx...@xx.xxx; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:04:19 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:04:45 +1300 From: x xx...@clear.net.nz Subject: family To: David Elliott xx...@xx.xxx Message-id: 9d9b7ffca8ce3550b5e0fe133f88a...@clear.net.nz MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Envelope-To: xx...@xx.xxx -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The following macro's give me this %ODATE ..:- 31 December 2009 %ODATEEN :- Thursday, December 31, 2009 %ODATESHORT .:- 31/12/2009 %ODOW ...:- Thursday %ORCVDATE ...:- 31 December 2009 %ORCVDATEEN .:- Thursday, December 31, 2009 %ORCVDATESHORT ..:- 31/12/2009 %ORCVDOW :- Thursday %ORCVTIME ...:- 22:08 %ORCVTIMELONG ...:- 22:08:38 %ORCVTIMELONGEN .:- 10:08:38 PM %OTIME ..:- 19:04 %OTIMELONG ..:- 19:04:45 %OTIMELONGEN :- 7:04:45 PM What I want is to pull out the original date and time the message was sent. e.g. Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:04:45 Am I doing something wrong? -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:View mode now Global?
Hello Rick, Historians believe that on 03 August 2009 , at 09:41:17[GMT -0400](which was 14:41 where I live) you wrote: I just changed the sort order in one folder. I left the folder and was prompted as expected and said yes to the change I went in to other folders and found that the sort order had been replicated to all other folders The Global View Mode is set to no view mode Confirm anyone? No. I just wish mine would save. It prompts me and then refuses to do it. :( -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.2.9.1 on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpYd6a3QU1dE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:backup failing
Hola Roelof, Historians believe that on 18 July 2009 , at 18:02:20[GMT +0200](which was 17:02 where I live) you wrote: I wanted to switch from otfe to plain, so I created a full backup, according to its settings including general options and address book and removed TB's registry settings. Ran TB anew Installed the backup, but I couldn't retrieve my address book (and since most of my filters use address book groups that meant that my sorting office was a mess too.) In spite of me wanting to restore the general settings, my new copy told me that it was unregistered even after I closed and opened TB. And after restoring my backup I got this error Well that is better than me. ALL my backups over the past two months are corrupt. :( I did not have my folders encrypted as this had resulted in loss of 5 years email and they were backed up, and I had the registry keys backed up as well :) I have NEVER trusted the backup system as it does not back up everything. The only I have found to backup and restore The Bat! properly is the registry and the data directories, any thing else just does not work, -- Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 4.2.7.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Problems sending email.
Hi Roelof, Historians believe that on 21 June 2009 , at 23:13:17[GMT +0200](which was 22:13 where I live) you wrote: DE I pick an email to reply to and reply to it and then put it into the outbox. DE After this I can not send it with (any combination of) F2. What if you don't place it in the outbox, but send it immediately? Sorry for the delay. I have got lots of other problems with the OS at the moment. And the spell checker is totally fubared as well -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com pgp9U1RttCqet.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Problems sending email.
Hello Roelof, Historians believe that on 21 June 2009 , at 23:13:17[GMT +0200](which was 22:13 where I live) you wrote: DE I pick an email to reply to and reply to it and then put it into the outbox. DE After this I can not send it with (any combination of) F2. What if you don't place it in the outbox, but send it immediately? I will reply twice. This is send immediately. -- Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.2.6 on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpm2KcIOy4Ek.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems sending email.
Hello Tbbeta, I think that I have found my problem. Account is set as follows. Delivery type Immediate Combined delivery. Periodic checking each 5 minutes. I pick an email to reply to and reply to it and then put it into the outbox. After this I can not send it with (any combination of) F2. However if I close TB! down and restart then it get sent. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message sending problem.
Hello tbbeta, I keep getting a problem sending messages. It goes like this. Get messages via pop. Read messages and hit reply to all save the messages. Go back to the out box and finish replying. put the messages back into the out box (not as draft) The message then stick in the out box and it never seams to get seme. I have to open it back up and then sent the time delay to ensure it get sent. I have had this for a number of beta's. I will keep on testing this to ensure that I still have the problem. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Cannot write to canvas
Hola Maxim, Historians believe that on 14 May 2009 , at 19:14:34[GMT +0300](which was 17:14 where I live) you wrote: running TB! ver 4.1.11.23 Why are you running 4.1.11.23 while .28 was out on 13-May-2009? Because I did not have time to update it. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.1.11.29 (BETA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgp2e0FANrTnF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Cannot write to canvas
Hola TbBeta, Historians believe that on 10 May 2009 , at 22:37:02[GMT -0400](which was 03:37 where I live) you wrote: I have had 4 or 5 instance of Cannot write to canvas and some other messages that cannot be read that totally crash The Bat. I have been getting them when generating new messages from a folder template that has worked flawlessly before this version. I used it to create 20 emails so this is not a repeatable error. For Info I have had this as well. I went reading my email hit reply to all, then saved it as draft, Went to ny outbox and started to reply. at this point one of the message came up with this error. If I can reporduce it I will sent you the detaisl -- Cheers David running TB! ver 4.1.11.23 on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpSVOFr3cv08.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.288 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Mail sticking in the out box
Hi Stuart, Historians believe that on 07 April 2009 , at 18:32:29[GMT -0500](which was 00:32 where I live) you wrote: DE I have this problem with mail sticking in the out box. DE It has been happening for a few beta's but I can not remember when it DE started. Is this IMAP? This is POP3 and SMTP. I am still trying get the steps to replicate the problem. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 4.1.11.9 (MMB) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgp36zQXpGSeb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.1.11.9
Hello MAU, Historians believe that on 05 April 2009 , at 02:41:06[GMT +0200](which was 01:41 where I live) you wrote: Also the Attachments glyph now shows the NUMBER of attachments Not until you focus on the Message List pane for the first time and not for all messages. See attachment. Anyway, I wish this new feature was optional. I don't like it neither with the default attachment glyph nor with the one from my Yellowish Icons set. Plus, I don't find it useful for anything. I don't like the alignment. The number is left aligned with the symbol (of a paperclip) floats behind in the centre. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgpqyMG8BRScr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.1.11.9
Hola Francis, Historians believe that on 06 April 2009 , at 11:56:51[GMT +0200](which was 10:56 where I live) you wrote: DE The number is left aligned with the symbol (of a paperclip) floats behind in DE the centre. The paperclip in centered; it should be right-justified. Personally I think that the number and the paperclip should be attached together and then right justified. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgp3Nv64wdKGf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail sticking in the out box
Hello Tbbeta, I have this problem with mail sticking in the out box. It has been happening for a few beta's but I can not remember when it started. The mail just sits there no matter what I do. Including Alt + F2, Shift + F2, Park then Unpark. Once this happens it sometimes stops all messages form going out. I have tried logging but no log is produced. The only way is to restart TB. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.1.11.9 (MMB) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpj4SvzVgTkN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Backing up - window always in foreground
Hi Martin, Historians believe that on 06 April 2009 , at 13:56:18[GMT +0200](which was 12:56 where I live) you wrote: A very old question I would like to ask. When backing up the window Maintenance Center has no minimize icon - why? It's quite annoying because when TheBat is backing up this Maintenance Center window is always in the foreground and can't be hidden. I can see the reason for that. I.e. it does not want you making any changes whilst doing the backup. But it also downloads the mail as well so that is not really a reason. And Can I add to that if you cancel the backup the dialogue box stays there. You then have to close it with the cross in the top right. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgp0sk1MUaYGA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Backing up - window always in foreground
Hi NetVicious, Historians believe that on 06 April 2009 , at 23:09:36[GMT +0200](which was 22:09 where I live) you wrote: A very old question I would like to ask. When backing up the window Maintenance Center has no minimize icon - why? It's quite annoying because when TheBat is backing up this Maintenance Center window is always in the foreground and can't be hidden. They're called Modal Windows. As David tell you, the backup process it's important and you should not touch nothing of the program during the process. All the programs protect his interface within modal windows when they're doing something important or they're waiting some input. I agree with the modal window approach, although there are ways round it. I am always surprised that it still collects and sorts mail whilst doing a backup. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgp9eWYbF33Zv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Application Error on start up
Hello Tbbeta, I keep getting this on start up. --- thebat.exe - Application Error --- The instruction at 0x7c84afb2 referenced memory at 0x0014. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program --- OK Cancel --- tb then closes. I restart it and it is OK. -- Best regards, David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com running TB! ver 4.1.11 on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgp3WIVxBO6DJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Not enought timers available
Hello Tbbeta, I have TB! 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 AVG 7.5 (Server version) I have is set to do automatic backups. On a start it was performing an automatic backup, and AVG was updating. AVG needed TB! to be shutdown. As it was in the middle of a backup I decided to wait until it had finished. When it had finished I clicked the OK button on the AVG this tried to shud down TB! However it was now downloading messages. So the Dialogu came up asking how / when to shut down. At this point I got the dialogue up 'Not enought timers available' after this I had to use the task manager to shut tb! down Screen shot attached (I hope) -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] running TB! ver 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790attachment: tb.png pgp09MC53c4MD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.30 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hola Thomas, Historians believe that on 24 November 2008 , at 09:26:50[GMT +0700](which was 02:26 where I live) you wrote: Also, all users are taught how to use the webmail interface for their account(s). DE Some account don't have such a thing. www.mail2web.com LOL. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpnHzOalKo5Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hello Kertész, Historians believe that on 24 November 2008 , at 03:29:03[GMT +0100](which was 02:29 where I live) you wrote: KV IT IS NOT ABOUT GMAIL. Please read the mails we exchanged. I have been reading the thread. For practical purposes it is about Gmail. No. If you really read it, it is about that when a mail downloaded but not imported, let the user know it. Put it into their face. Correct !! -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgpq8rE6pJ9Ji.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hola Dwight, Historians believe that on 24 November 2008 , at 18:06:46[GMT -0600](which was 00:06 where I live) you wrote: I started this thread, and at no point did state I had a problem with Gmail. I just had a problem. are you saying that you didn't mention gmail at first, or that the problem was with some service other than gmail? I did not state gmail. It was in the log. My gripe here is that TB! had a problem and I was not informed. I personally don't care where the problem originates. I just want to know about it. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 pgpTtn1iIlC5j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hello Paul, Historians believe that on 23 November 2008 , at 17:14:49[GMT -0500](which was 22:14 where I live) you wrote: KV IT IS NOT ABOUT GMAIL. Please read the mails we exchanged. I have been reading the thread. For practical purposes it is about Gmail. I started this thread, and at no point did state I had a problem with Gmail. I just had a problem. What I am concerned about is that The Bat! had a problem and did not inform me that it had a problem. I have hundreds of TB users in many countries around the world. I teach them about the Log because I want them to be aware and enabled, not controlled by ignorance. On the _very rare_ occasion that a message doesn't download they know where to look for the reason, and, can view all of the account activity. Yes it is rare, it is that rare that you don't always look for it. If I was informed that it could not download a message then I could do something about it. No information no action. One of my jobs has been as system admin as such I always wanted to be informed if there was a problem. If I could not guarantee that a system would inform me of an error the I would set it up to inform me of a success. I always assume that no error message means that everything is OK. If something goes wrong I want to know. As I stated earlier, I don't care who's fault it is I just want to know. Also, all users are taught how to use the webmail interface for their account(s). Some account don't have such a thing. How many times have you, or another user, had this problem with a service other than Gmail? Not many. That means that on the rare occasion that there is a problem I want to know. It was Gmail that started this thread. It is still about Gmail with a miniscule need for this using other providers. NO. I did not state it was gmail. I just said I had a problem. I am not against an error message for non-downloadable messages. Good. I am totally against a large _red_ panic message as you suggest. Just let The Bat! tell me some how. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgpH5UjNR1RnH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hello Thomas, Historians believe that on 22 November 2008 , at 13:08:00[GMT +0700](which was 06:08 where I live) you wrote: ... KV If this is the case, I suggest showing a big red alert window to let KV the user know about the unsuccessful import, with some possible KV reasons, what to check. Only a log window is not enough. User v1.0 KV wont check the log. I don't want any red windows. I'm not user v1.0, the log is enough. Sorry you are wrong here. The log is not enough. To see stuff in it you need to go an look. Please don't let TB! go the way for the stupidest user imaginable. What if you have gone away from your computer for a cup of coffee. A message of two could not be saved because of space. Then because of a process that you are running e.g. a clean up, space becomes available it can then download the next set of messages. In this case the warning would have gone past in the status bar, you would not have noticed. And you call this a 'stupid' user. I would like a warning box with some detail, if necessary it can be switched off for the 'intelligent' users. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgpkY1l1gMgdm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hello Thomas, Historians believe that on 22 November 2008 , at 17:02:57[GMT +0700](which was 10:02 where I live) you wrote: I don't want any red windows. I'm not user v1.0, the log is enough. DE Sorry you are wrong here. Interesting. I checked again and I still don't want any red windows. DE The log is not enough. DE To see stuff in it you need to go an look. Yes, but I don't need to see this regularly. If I have a suspicion something is wrong, I will take a look at the log. That's what it's for. I think that you are still missing the point here. If something goes wrong I want to be notified. It is that simple. I don't care who fault it. Ignorance is not bliss. If 'The Bat!' has had a problem I want to know. ... -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgp01V4dlLEaR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Can't send mail to GMAIL accounts
Hello Rick, Historians believe that on 22 November 2008 , at 13:48:08[GMT -0500](which was 18:48 where I live) you wrote: I received mail from all accounts this morning. Once I upgraded to 4.0.39.27 I was no longer able to send mail to (at least) the Gmail accounts. Back to .26 and the mails went correctly Can anyone else confirm? If you get this then not confirmed. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. pgpCINnpoZejN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.0.37.26
Hi Maxim, Historians believe that on 20 November 2008 , at 21:52:20[GMT +0200](which was 19:52 where I live) you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb403726.rar What's new in 4.0.37.26 since 4.0.34.25: ... [*] (#0004141) It is now possible to specify folders in automatic backup action I need check that one out. ... -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 Current beta is 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
messages go missing
Hello All, I was looking at my logs and saw this. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19/11/2008, 19:46:31: FETCH - receiving mail messages 19/11/2008, 19:46:33: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 1A2280FB, algorithm: RSA (512 bits), issued from 29/10/2008 22:32:35 to 24/10/2028 22:32:35, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - Owner: EN, pop.gmail.com. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - This certificate is self-issued. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 19/11/2008, 19:46:35: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 19/11/2008, 19:46:35: FETCH - 3 messages in the mailbox, 3 new 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Mark Laridon [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3065 bytes, subject: Meeting Wednesday 3rd December 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Geoff Boult [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3640 bytes, subject: VAT 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Mark Laridon [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3397 bytes, subject: Re: VAT !19/11/2008, 19:47:08: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat623.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:47:43: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat624.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat625.tmp) 19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - connection finished - 3 messages received -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- So now I have three messages that have not been saved and not in my in box and not on the server. They have disappeared. Agh! I have now enabled logging on this account. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] running TB! ver 4.0.34.21 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 Current beta is 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hola Marek, Historians believe that on 19 November 2008 , at 21:11:56[GMT +0100](which was 20:11 where I live) you wrote: Hello all, Wednesday, November 19, 2008, David Elliott wrote: !19/11/2008, 19:47:08: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat623.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:47:43: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat624.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat625.tmp) 19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - connection finished - 3 messages received -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- So now I have three messages that have not been saved and not in my in box and not on the server. They have disappeared. Agh! I have now enabled logging on this account. do they were really deleted on server? This is strange, they should be deleted after successful import to msgbase only. They are in the bin. I have other gmail accounts and other accounts that are not gmail. All work OK. I have downloaded other messages on the same account both before and after. I think my point is that the message temp file wan able to be saved but it appears the the server was told the the messages had been saved. (I could be wrong here) -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 4.0.34.21 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 Current beta is 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:messages go missing
Hola Stefan, Historians believe that on 19 November 2008 , at 23:31:14[GMT +0200](which was 21:31 where I live) you wrote: DE I think my point is that the message temp file wan able to be saved but it DE appears the the server was told the the messages had been saved. (I could be DE wrong here) It's actually how GMail behaves - the messages are deleted as soon as they're downloaded, no matter what client wants to do with them afterwards. I have spotted other gmail behaviour that I don't like. You can use Web interface and reset counters to be able to download messages again. Beware the dupes! :-) Where do you do that? -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. Current beta is 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.0.34.16
Hi Maxim, Historians believe that on 20 October 2008 , at 12:36:31[GMT +0300](which was 10:36 where I live) you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.34.16 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb403416.rar What's new in 4.0.34.16 since 4.0.34.15: ... [+] Backup/Restore: It's now possible to specify folders to restore Oh good. I might get rid of my problem with folders that I cannot delete. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tb ver 4.0.34 Current beta is 4.0.34.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[U R] (was Re:4.0.34.16)
Hi Maxim, Historians believe that on 20 October 2008 , at 13:15:32[GMT +0100](which was 13:15 where I live) you wrote: Historians believe that on 20 October 2008 , at 12:36:31[GMT +0300](which was 10:36 where I live) you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.34.16 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb403416.rar What's new in 4.0.34.16 since 4.0.34.15: ... [+] Backup/Restore: It's now possible to specify folders to restore Oh good. I might get rid of my problem with folders that I cannot delete. Just to say U and Running. I will now try (but not for a day or two). Back up only the Accounts I want. Un install TB! Delete any / all traces. Restore from backup. And then we will see what happens. I will also try to sort out my list templates as they have got lost in the last reinstall. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] running TB! ver 4.0.34.16 (ALPHA) on Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 5.2.3790 Current beta is 4.0.34.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:The Bat Mailinglists
Greetings Jens, Historians believe that on 10 October 2008 , at 22:13:18[GMT +0200](which was 21:13 where I live) you wrote: when trying to subscribe to TB-Tech does anybody know, what is wrong here: A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. The following addresses failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command: host hera.geschkult.fu-berlin.de[160.45.213.11]: 550 Unknown user This is from the headers List-Subscribe: https://kore.geschkult.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tbtech, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Trick or treat is right. McCoy Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
Dear MAU, Historians believe that on 07 October 2008 , at 01:01:33[GMT +0200](which was 00:01 where I live) you wrote: Hello Maxim, I've just created several messages in the Outbox and sent them out by mistakes, sorry. Please accept my apologies. Don't you wish you could have created them in a DRAFTS folder? ;-) Something I have been asking for you years! :) -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : You will become rich and famous unless you don't. Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Power Cut whan shutting down
Hello Dan, Historians believe that on 04 August 2008 , at 08:42:47[GMT -0600](which was 15:42 where I live) you wrote: Well I have just had a power cut just as I was closing down TB. Disaster. Too late of course for this time, but a good reminder to always have a UPS (unless you're on a laptop). It is a Laptop. The battery warning is NFG. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : I add a little excitement and all you do is complain. - Q pgpiWL7pmeK19.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.26.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Power Cut whan shutting down
Salutation Jernej, Historians believe that on 04 August 2008 , at 17:41:29[GMT +0200](which was 16:41 where I live) you wrote: It did find the folders but all the names have become 8.3 names of random letters and numbers. I also have multi folders / accounts linked on to one folder. It is just a total mess. Sounds like you got hit by plain old filesystem corruption. I don't think so. There's practically nothing that TB can do about this (except maybe provide some way to fish out the remnants of messages from the scattered files - assuming their content is more or less intact), since the corruption happened below it's level. I am not sure at what level it has happened. But at least the contents are OK I just have to work out where they all go. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : I don't recall running for this office. pgpITIRJ6Uhvh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.26.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A Power Cut whan shutting down
Hello All, Well I have just had a power cut just as I was closing down TB. Disaster. All my folder and account have disappeared. I did the ctrl+shift+alt+L or what ever it is to find lost folders. It did find the folders but all the names have become 8.3 names of random letters and numbers. I also have multi folders / accounts linked on to one folder. It is just a total mess. This is going to take some time to fix -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: tb.png pgppu19ZSf5Nc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.26.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Toolbar grayed out 4.0.24.21
Dear Ian, Historians believe that on 13 June 2008 , at 16:28:35[GMT + (UTC)](which was 17:28 where I live) you wrote: I have noticed that a number of toolbar options including the delete, forward reply options are grayed out on my toolbar. If I quit the bat and restart, all is restored again. Has anyone else had this problem? I have seen this a number of times not just with this beta. I have been unable to replicate it so I can not report it fully. -- Cheers David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Curiosity killed the cat. Let's get a dog next. pgpYbTnpr0ivr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.24.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing Icons (was Re: Voyager 4.0.18.4)
Hi Vili, Historians believe that on 08 April 2008 , at 09:32:24[GMT -0400](which was 14:32 where I live) you wrote: Voyager 4.0.18.4 is available at See attached screen shot. Installed on one computer in E: drive. Picture is from another computer running it from F: I would say it is a video card error on that PC. Tried to run it on another PC? No not a video card error. The PC has IE 6 installed. Loaded in IE 7 and all was well. At a guess it must be a problem with alpha transparency of PNG's. I have tested this on a number of PC. :) -- David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought for the day : Clay! I didn't mean to make you undead! -- TV's Frank Replied on 14/04/2008 at 16:45 using The Bat Ver 4.0.20 pgpn0OBVWcoZ9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing Icons (was Re: Voyager 4.0.18.4)
Hello Vili, Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 2:32:24 PM, you wrote: Voyager 4.0.18.4 is available at See attached screen shot. Installed on one computer in E: drive. Picture is from another computer running it from F: I would say it is a video card error on that PC. Tried to run it on another PC? Humm. Tried it on another and it is OK. The card works fine for everything else. :( -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpItMPhU9s4Q.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Missing Icons (was Re: Voyager 4.0.18.4)
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 12:40:57 PM, you wrote: Voyager 4.0.18.4 is available at See attached screen shot. Installed on one computer in E: drive. Picture is from another computer running it from F: -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: Voyager.gif pgpnU6bCwSoeu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.20.0
Hello Maxim, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 1:14:56 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.20.0 is available at ... Up and running. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpQBOpvc4YoH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4 BETA
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 1:27:49 PM, you wrote: Voyager 4 BETA URL http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install_4_0_18.exe Installed Voyager Ok Said I want to restore from a backup taken fro TB The browse window is behind the main and the main window stays on top when trying to restoe from a backup. :( -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpvlZFUiUnA9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.16.2
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 8, 2008, 11:37:29 PM, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-16-2.msi Not working LOL (not part of the TB dev team) As a developer when any states that I take out a big bat and hit them. It is as useful as a chocolate teapot. The Questions I as are What you were doing? What happened? What you expected to happen? and from 'The IT crowd' Switch it of and switch it on again. Did the same happen again ? -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello Rick, Wednesday, March 5, 2008, 4:28:13 PM, you wrote: PVN years. The Parked in Outbox concept is not intuitive and I cannot PVN recall a single user figuring this out on their own. I don't actually buy that. Fact: you are editing a message. You have 4 disposition buttons at the top (and menu options). Hover help tells you Save as draft on the 3rd button. Every single user can figure that much out I buy that. It may have been a good solution when people had a couple of mail accounts but these days some people have dozens. If someone uses drafts extensively they are scattered over several inboxes. The way most people use email, it just makes sense to consolidate them into one place. We already have the new feature that allows us to change what account is used to send and email from within the editor. If you change the account, where will it save the draft? ... or re-save it? I am not concerned with how the message gets into the outbox. What concerns me it how to identify between the following. A message that has not been finished and needs further editing therefore Draft. and A message that is finished but you don't want to sent and have therefore Parked. Both visually look the same. I would concede the use of a Draft folder if there was a way to identify between the two different stated. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changes in QT's
Hello Tbbeta, I am trying to get ny old QT back in place and I am sure that I had one with the handle of this would then expand out to ... entering in theis handle and then pressing Ctrl + space brings up the list of QT and not the QT it's self. Has this behaviour changed? -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello MAU, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:53:00 AM, you wrote: I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello Marck, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:42:40 AM, you wrote: Dear David_E, @4-Mar-2008, 03:54 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A draft folder
Hello Marck, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:42:40 AM, you wrote: @4-Mar-2008, 03:54 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DE I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. DE Views ? Create a new folder. Name it Draft. Now drag any parked draft / unfinished message from the outbox to the Draft folder. Enjoy! ¡ Marck ! A sensible suggestion please. 1) Extra and unnecessary effort to do this. 2) To edit it I need to move it back to the Outbox. 3) Extra and unnecessary effort to undo this. P.S. Sorry for the extra email I was testing this suggestion and it got sent by mistake. :) -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: A draft folder
Hello All, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 5:47:55 PM, you wrote: Hello MAU, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:53:00 AM, you wrote: I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :) You will find me adding my 2 penny worth on 11 Dec 2005 at 12:36 This is what I was writing back then. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DE If a message is in the outbox it is ready to be sent. It might be DE parked because you do not want to send it now. DE If a message is draft folder it is there because it is not finished DE with. DE Both are very different trying to combine it with 'parked' messages in DE the outbox proves that you have not thought the different statuses that DE a message can go [through]. DE I have asked for a draft folder since I started using the bat in beta DE (about ver 1.3 I think) I have not said anything recently about it DE because it has always fallen on deaf ears. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A draft folder
Hello All, I would like to open a discussion for the need for a draft folder. Views ? It is something I have been asking for since ver 1.3. Personally view. I want a draft folder because to me there is a difference between 1) A message in the outbox that is complete but you do not want to send yet and 2) A message the you have not finished editing but can not complete. I have need for both but they both get parked in the outbox and I can not tell the difference with out 'flagging' it in some way. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spaces and quote characters
Hello Jernej, Sunday, March 2, 2008, 8:28:25 PM, you wrote: I'm slightly annoyed by The Bat's insistence on colouring lines that contain some text followed by the greater-than () character as if the text was quoted. I know that the reason for this is because of support for putting initials before quoted lines, but IMHO this is wrong, and the only thing that should be allowed in front of greater-than characters () should be spaces (due to some broken mailers putting them there). (Typing after a line is also annoying, because you have to delete the attribution TB automatically puts there for you, and it also breaks alignment hotkeys). Thoughts? I hear what you are saying, but as I have the number of characters turned down to 5 I don't get the problem. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with 4.0.14
Hello All, Well I have been only using TB for less than 24 hours and it is driving me mad. This is after a break of about a 5 months. It is nice (or not) to see how something have not changed. 1) Trying to refilter a common filter to an inbox. I highlighted a piece of mail in my in box and go to create a filter for it. As it is a list email which I am on with more that one account I think a common filter would be nice. So I set it up a filter to move the mail using the to address as the trigger. Then try to refilter and dos it NO. To get round this I had to move the filter into each account then refilter. 2) Hogs CPU time and locks up. I am running the Pro version with On-the-fly enabled. And peridocally it just lock up. The worst case was when trying to debug the above problem. I has about 65,000 messages in my in box mainly for 2 different lists. I start the refilter off and can eacly see that it is not filtering so I press cancel. After 2 minutes of total lock up of TB (even the ticker is stopped) it comes back to life. CPU is at 50% I am running 2003 Server with a duel core 3.02 with 2G ram 3) Draft folder. Still we do not have one. I have been asking for one since I started using TB back in Ver 1.3x. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with 4.0.14
Hello Marek, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 5:44:20 PM, you wrote: 1) Trying to refilter a common filter to an inbox. I highlighted a piece of mail in my in box and go to create a filter for it. As it is a list email which I am on with more that one account I think a common filter would be nice. So I set it up a filter to move the mail using the to address as the trigger. Then try to refilter and dos it NO. To get round this I had to move the filter into each account then refilter. In a common filters you have four tabs. The third is Share with... There you need to assign all accounts you are going to use this filter with. It will work as a charm ;-) I thought I had tried that. Yes it does work my mistake. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Final Straw
Hi All I hope this is in text format but as I have been reduced to using gmail I can not guarantee it. I have been using TB since about 1.3 but I do feel that even this version 3.99.24 is not really any better. Some things just have not improved. e.g. backup up and restore. Ok so I want to do is backup up everything and then restore it. Do not use the backup and restore it becaus it does not work. My last attempt I lost all my rules. The latest thing is that TB is refusing to start. I am getting a win32 exception this is after removal, reinstall, reboot, delete. I am now left with no access to my past 2 years email. (after having lost 4 years email with another crash of TB a couple of years ago. -- David Using gmail Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ecahange The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, A number of problems with trying to use The Bat! with exchange. 1) Message that are moved in folders on the server are not reflected in The Bat! but are duplicated. 2) Internal address to the organisation are in the format. David Elliott /O=ELCOME/OU=FIRSTADMINISTRATIVEGROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=David.elliot So I can not use it to reply to. - -- Good Bye, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | When someone hugs you, let them be the first to let go. | The Bat! 3.85.03 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRRPVxvmK8eZlD0U0EQJoXACgsMiBK5dXkueAHN//CyH8CCDUTRoAoMqC vB8jDRl4rX2GnF874l8LualK =3kAo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Rediredt Not working (was Re: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Thursday, June 29, 2006, 2:00:47 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] I reported the following. == 8 == Ok, but when will the problem with the redirect be fixed. 1) Highlight a number of messages. 2) Click on the redirect button. 3) Forward/Redirect of multiple messages 4) Click on the radio button 'Address all messages to the address(es) below' 5) Fill in the address and click on OK Nothing happens. == 8 == It was checked out by Simon who could not replicate it. Unfortunately it is still there, however I have some more info. If the folder that you are in is in an account then there is no problem, but if the folder is at the same level as the account then it you get the problem. - -- Regards, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | According to this table I have +3 to damage. Does it kill the dragon? | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRKYhPfmK8eZlD0U0EQJ2+gCePUybNdZdiy1bn7fjojAXb2/gZy4Ani7c 48GXPNSlW82XbAjGw0BuADaO =OHVE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rediredt Not working (was Re: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roelof, Saturday, July 1, 2006, 10:15:54 AM, you wrote: DE If the folder that you are in is in an account then there is no problem, DE but if the folder is at the same level as the account then it you get the DE problem. Well, if you mean a common folder with that description, I can confirm it. As I don't use common folders I created one and copied four messages to it. A single redirect works fine, a multiple redirect via the editor works fine too, but a redirect via one address bar just does nothing. From an account it works fine, but from a common folder nothing. If you add it to bug track I'll confirm it. Any chance you could do it. I just about to go off on holiday. No Computer. No Phone. No Car. Just a few good books, a glass or two of falling down water and my family. :) - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Looking for a car pool on the Infomation Highway. | The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRKalqfmK8eZlD0U0EQKeZgCgudwIEW+avMGNSKOdKnQbg1tCYPsAn0mG FUqNv+T2NqRwEFwDLjPD40+x =9Uke -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Rediredt Not working (was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 10:21:03 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb38104.rar The only fix is correct start with OTFE enabled. Ok, but when will the problem with the redirect be fixed. 1) Highlight a number of messages. 2) Click on the redirect button. 3) Forward/Redirect of multiple messages 4) Click on the radio button 'Address all messages to the address(es) below' 5) Fill in the address and click on OK Nothing happens. - -- Best regards, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | * - Tribble *+ - Grandpa Tribble with his cane | The Bat! 3.81.04 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRJPAMvmK8eZlD0U0EQKwUACg7WDLZdIqVAAMfV5bLerV34rXz5EAoPZA LysJ2riuiE1lKdlwSckWAHQe =F/ug -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Friday, April 28, 2006, 9:36:57 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-80-03.msi Installed above 1) You can not choose which of the multi language you have it is either all or nothing. I only want 'English'. 2) You can not choose which of the dictionary's you have it is either all or nothing. I only want 'British English'. 3) I did have some of the menu's changes (see attached). This is now ignored, and I can not remember how I did it before. - -- Best regards, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | I'll be looking forward to your report, Mr. Broccoli.-Picard | The Bat! 3.80.03 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRFMdPvmK8eZlD0U0EQKaWACbBgt0umgNj0cs62B/kyM65Guu2V4An2rK 4Q/0k2oms/RC7McLatDiDmSs =DxTL -END PGP SIGNATURE-attachment: tb.jpg Current beta is 3.73 rc 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.80 Release Candidate 1 is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 4:12:01 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.80 Release Candidate 1 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-80.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-80.msi Got the pro. Apology if this have been covered before but I have been out of the loop for a few months. Problem In a previous version I could alter the order of the menu items. This has been lost. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | MOM'S HINT #316: Learn to catch a boomerang.| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBRE/fT/mK8eZlD0U0EQL9cACgilUMJX3wDVH56KXDXWziOytHIm0An03N ++ua8l4aEKGTCIHI3ruSyRjM =kP79 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.73 rc 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.80 Release Candidate 1 is now available
Hello Marek, Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 10:19:37 PM, you wrote: In a previous version I could alter the order of the menu items. This has been lost. please specify more, I have tried to change order of menu sections (Message and Special) and order of items and everything works. On the special menu I had moved the 'Mark as Junk' up to the top so that I could use the following key combo to mark junk. Alt+s enter The 'Mark as Junk' has now moved to under the first bar. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpJSfJE2OImp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.73 rc 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maxim, Tuesday, January 31, 2006, 9:19:15 PM, you wrote: I have not had a chance to try yet. Please try when you will have a chance, because you are the only user where The Bat! can retriev only one messsage from each folder via MAPI. I had a quick look today, but no real time to write down my findings, so this is from memory. The latest version still does not download the messages. It does appear to cycle thought them (about 2000 in 7 folders) but stated something like the messages were not new. The other copy different machine will download the messages. I will try and do a better report tomorrow. - -- Ti2GO,___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | How about you, Doctor? Are you ready? Paris | The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ+E4wvmK8eZlD0U0EQLjTQCeP/9czGz10rz25AZYZhL6Lcv/DeMAoMvJ KmWp9AHCx+WXBlpgJK6jv6IJ =9c0J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available
Hello David, Sunday, January 29, 2006, 12:17:06 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] When working with Exchange server, The Bat! queries messages one-by-one. I will try it with exchange on Monday. I have not had a chance to try yet. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpvQtxFgZDVt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Saturday, January 28, 2006, 12:25:50 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] When working with Exchange server, The Bat! queries messages one-by-one. I will try it with exchange on Monday. - -- Cheers, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Auntie Em: Hate Kansas, hate you. Took dog and house. --Dorothy.| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ9yyR/mK8eZlD0U0EQJSDQCePdDpypSvqwMIygW5Asphnve6+XIAnRd2 eUQRGwtEtVCaYfbWw6jvZ0z4 =IZ8y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Monday, January 23, 2006, 6:53:00 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.70.02 Qigong is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well I will see if this breaths a bit of life into the working's of Exchange MAPI, since this is I am trying to use. - -- BFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Religious Error: (A)tone (R)epent (B)urn In Hell | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ9VJs/mK8eZlD0U0EQL2nwCgnQUwK+rV284qoPuCGh37zOzdJuEAoLv/ ix3h4CMoAWhSSFUAAgc40JUI =2L3U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.70.02 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
MAPI problems
Hello All, Just trying to move my copy of TB over to a new machine and I am running into a few problems. See below. == 8 == 19/01/2006, 16:20:29: FETCH - receiving mail messages 19/01/2006, 16:20:29: FETCH - connected to the Exchange server ..XXX as user 19/01/2006, 16:20:29: FETCH - processing 11 folder(s) !19/01/2006, 16:20:29: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 199 messages in the folder Deleted Items HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:29: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 199 messages in the folder Deleted Items HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 1210 messages in the folder Inbox HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 1210 messages in the folder Inbox HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 11 messages in the folder SQL HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 11 messages in the folder SQL HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 4 messages in the folder Info HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 4 messages in the folder Info HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 2 messages in the folder Mantis HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 2 messages in the folder Mantis HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 17 messages in the folder Planning Portal HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 17 messages in the folder Planning Portal HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 62 messages in the folder Project Data Changes HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 62 messages in the folder Project Data Changes HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 10 messages in the folder Junk E-mail HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 10 messages in the folder Junk E-mail HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 416 messages in the folder Sent Items HResult= !19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - Still incomplete data: GetContentsTable has returned only 1 messages while there are 416 messages in the folder Sent Items HResult= 19/01/2006, 16:20:30: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received == 8 == The new machine is able to run outlook and since that is what has been given to me our IT support will not give me support to set it up TB. I do have TB running on my old machine and that it will receive email but not send (I think that this is a user/password problem). When I get this sorted I am going to use TBV for my accounts. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpR5RZAH9I4L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.65.02 (addresses Exchange and Outlook issues only) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maxim, Friday, January 13, 2006, 10:40:31 PM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36502.rar ... [*] Better error logging for MAPI Exchange connections. [-] When importing messages from MS Outlook or retrieving from MS Exchange server via MAPI, transport message headers (RFC-822) weren't preserved for messages delivered by SMTP. Good. I have been trying to us MAPI but have had some trouble. - -- Good Bye, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Star Trek is okay, but I prefer science fiction. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ8jOcPmK8eZlD0U0EQJm4gCg1IMKRC0f284zrC70Pe6zKQZ4LKoAoJKB Kqxf33KIcWXj1CSBhKc7zMUH =69wG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maxim, Monday, December 12, 2005, 9:27:58 PM, you wrote: What's the point of th Drafts folder if there is draft per-message flag in the Outbox? But that flag is not a draft flag it is a parked flag. How do I know looking at the flag if it is 1) a message that is finished waiting to go but is parked. or 2) A message that is not finished. There are mail clients that have a separate Drafts folder, but this is because they don't have an opportunity to park individual messages by the draft flag. We cal alter the outbox protection feature to automatically mark all messages copied to the outbox as draft. This will save from accidentally sending them. You will have to explicitly unpark them to send them out. This 'outbox protection feature' would be useful but it is no replacement for a draft folder. If a message is in the outbox it is ready to be sent. It might be parked because you do not want to send it now. If a message is draft folder it is there because it is not finished with. Both are very different trying to combine it with 'parked' messages in the outbox proves that you have not thought the different statuses that a message can go thought. I have asked for a draft folder since I started using the bat in beta (about ver 1.3 I think) I have not said anything recently about it because it has always fallen on deaf ears. - -- Bye, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | 2400 baud makes you want to get out and push| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ53vp/mK8eZlD0U0EQIr2ACggrt5UsEUayLiEOFqGzjzMRgFJegAniPG DDHfTpz8/qGlDHGHeeWkKEk5 =1Elu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, Monday, December 12, 2005, 10:21:09 PM, you wrote: But that flag is not a draft flag it is a parked flag. In the Outbox, there is no parked flag. There is only Draft flag in the Outbox. I think David was referring to your proposed change, to automatically Park every message that is saved to the Outbox. No actually it is a 'parked' flag when the message is in the outbox. Maxim (and others) may call it a 'draft' flag. Even the Bat calls it a parked flag in some places. I have asked for a draft folder since I started using the bat in beta (about ver 1.3 I think) I have not said anything recently about it because it has always fallen on deaf ears. Yes, but why should we blindly copy feature to only accommodate habits of the users of these programs without deeper understanding of what's behind these features? There is a reason why every other email client has a draft folder, and it will not be because they are copying each other. It is not to accommodate habits I've brought here from other programs that I need a Draft folder. I have been using The Bat! for over three years now and have completely forgotten how the e-mail clients Eudora Pro 4.0 and Outlook Express used to work. The reason I need a Draft folder is to keep the two different statuses my messages may have separate: !) Saved, but still needing to be worked on. (Draft) 2) or Saved and ready to go, but I don't want to send it yet (Outbox, parked) This is my main reason for wanting this feature. When I receive a number of email (It can be 500+ in one go) I usually hit the reply to button for the ones that need an answer and then immediately save the message as draft. After I have gone thought all my new messages I then go back to my Draft folder (yes I have creates one) and then proceed to edit all the draft messages and then hit send. I also have a number of messages that are finished but I don't want to send, these messages in different status get confused as there is no difference as far as the bat is aware. And another reason I would find a Draft folder useful is that I anticipate its folder properties would not over-ride my Address Book templates. - -- Cheers, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Shall I activate the Tantalus Field? Mareau-2 | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ54AuvmK8eZlD0U0EQIRXgCg59yCReNekoGhr1DIEaut4lE3m+MAoKZq W9ND/h6Ws1hCSpfd7qmaMyrZ =BXEa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: what's the problem in copying to Outbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU, Sunday, December 11, 2005, 12:29:51 PM, you wrote: ... Would it be too difficult to implement a 'Draft' folder? Outbox and Draft could work this way: ... Just a thought :) I have been asking for a Draft folder for the past 5 years. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | I know my own mind, and it's around here someplace ... | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ5xj2fmK8eZlD0U0EQL5gQCfRBmyioIJecJZKhw4/TA9WBEqCtsAn2P6 7Uju/O4Kt6P9lgKXFGa0DfLW =eKQk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Price
Hello Maxim, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 12:07:04 AM, you wrote: There were opinions in the list that Voyager is another product to make money. And so it should do. You should be rewarded for your efforts. The users of The Bat! Professional will use Voyager with their keys of The Bat! Pro. This means that The Bat! Pro registration is also valid for Voyager. Excellent news. However I have a problem. :) I lost all my mail in a crash a bit of time ago. So I don't have the email withe the registration information in it. I did have a copy of the values in the registry, this the only reason that I am still able to use The Bat! Pro. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpSZlvSrvfgQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! and MAPI (was Re: The Bat! Voyager)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maxim, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 10:22:42 AM, you wrote: P.S. I also have a problem with MAPI but that is a different matter. The Voyager is not supposed to be a MAPI handler. The different matter is that The Bat! does not handle MAPI properly either. Specifically It will not get any messages. It get the number of messages but they do not appear. - -- Cheers, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Edward Hopper's `Night Dorks'! -- Tom Servo | The Bat! Pro 3.62.14 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ4TZ2vmK8eZlD0U0EQJfrgCglP89okQ7qIogeSuD0ChYXBkBsroAn290 DIkAsAZ9XujbdLNtr9S2fMm7 =gteF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Voyager
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 11:01:45 PM, you wrote: Please try The Bat! Voyager BETA at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager.zip Just extract the ZIP archive to your flash drive and start from there. It will ask your order number from The Bat! Professional registration, and your The Bat! Professional key. Humm, Not sure where mine is. I think I lost it in a crash one time. But used the order number that you suggested. We will do separate order numbers for the Voyager later. :) It doesn't matter to which drive your mobile drive have mounted. If the drive letter has changed, the program should work properly. Your feedback is very appreciated. A feature that would be nice is a way to get round fire walls / proxy's at my current work that will not allow contact with the outside world except via a proxy on port 80 and one or two others. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpssqzH8j9WJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Voyager
Hello Alexander, Monday, November 21, 2005, 10:05:48 PM, you wrote: A feature that would be nice is a way to get round fire walls / proxy's at my current work that will not allow contact with the outside world except via a proxy on port 80 and one or two others. You can activat the flash drive outside your work firewall (e.g. from home) and then bring it to work. I have done that. I think thats not what David meant. He wants to tunnel POP3 access thru port 80 if he's behind a firewall that doesn't allow access to port 110 (or 25, or 995...) You have got it. Sorry if my first suggestion was not clear. P.S. I also have a problem with MAPI but that is a different matter. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp9mOvF5RFZd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.14 is now available
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:30:23 PM, you wrote: So the .14 version is finally released and we start new beta cycle. It has just some cosmetic fixes over .13, but if someone likes to see higher version numbers, he could download .14 here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi I have real problems with this one. It is taking at least 3 attempts to get it to run. It is locking up on the splash screen (with the spam filter showing). -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpnnjqlw1wVE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
message ticker fault
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, Well it is back. I have the message ticked but no unread messages. - -- TTFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Say it like you mean it, fighters. - Throttle | The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQzBcsvmK8eZlD0U0EQLcEACfTN7Pshfm8OL1R4a5RnsT632fzIIAn3C2 6ZGBm5/AgDIuy8FuLQ6nPsNa =/thR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, Friday, August 26, 2005, 6:55:38 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: I am getting an old problem. The message ticker is still active and showing unread messages when there are no messages left to read. - -- Thanks, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | What a moron... | The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQxVZQvmK8eZlD0U0EQJkjQCguUD4+t4H47uVxKSTM3wrav07vw8AoLQa O3A330xtOMuu2pbEwP6N0GHP =9UZp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.60.05 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Two problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, Two problems have occurred in the past week. 1) The Bat! locking up on start up. You get the splash screen and then the small banner about the standard anti spam plugin. It locks up at this point and the two splash screens do not clear. 2) Unable to close 'Find message' I have done a couple of searched to find a message or two and it is now locked. This also prevents me closing down The Bat! Picture of 'Message finder' at http://download.webfor.biz/Personal/tb.png I now need to hit the bat with a big stick. - -- Ti2GO,___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Virgin wool comes from *UGLY* sheep!| The Bat! 3.51.10 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQvR+ffmK8eZlD0U0EQIhYACgrUYzmqHvOuvQzkaxZcmYEILLMg4An09G cmMpE3jhbrm52vZIHd7okZ+y =8+8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello Thomas, Monday, July 25, 2005, 2:09:00 AM, you wrote: DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. ASK IIRC, the message is a fixed object during the filtering stage. If both ASK filters move the message, you should have two copies in the two destination ASK folders (I haven't tried that however). No. The keyword for the filter here is move, not copy. The message is an object in computer-speak, don't know what a fixed object is. Filter 1 moves the object (message) to the spam folder, filter 2 moves it to the list folder. So it ends up in the list folder only, there are no two copies (unless you browse deleted messages, but we won't go into this). He would have two copies has he told the filters to copy instead of move the message. ASK Maybe thats a topic for TBTECH? No, rather for TBUDL. It's not a very technical question, every user has filters like this so it's rather basic, and it's not a beta issue either. I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. ASK To avoid that, I've set up my filters for mailinglists as subfilters. How complicated. The more straight-forward solution is to *not* check continue processing If you are not sure and get too many false positives, recalibrate your spam filter. The reason that I put it here is because filter activity was changes some time ago, and I was wondering if it had changes again. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re:The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hi Maxim On 25 July 2005 at 16:49:49 +0300 (which was 14:49 where I live) Maxim Masiutin rearranged electrons to get ... http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-51.msi But you can not choose any of the languages that you do / do not want. -- Thank you for your time, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Notice how easily it detaches.--Ro| The Bat! 3.51.10 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) pgpbGkrHVq5r6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Filters
Hello All, Have I got this wrong, or did it change. A message can get caught by a number of filters. Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello Peter and All, Sunday, July 24, 2005, 7:44:21 PM, you wrote: on Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:32:54 +0100GMT (24.07.2005, 20:32 +0200GMT here), you wrote: DE Have I got this wrong, or did it change. DE A message can get caught by a number of filters. DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. Other examples. I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
