Re: 4.0.26 Problems with filters...
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW On Friday, July 11, 2008, at 17:10:48 [UTC-0400] (Friday, July 11, ZW 2008 23:10 my local time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have set a User Param User = Fred in the Common folders. ZW It seems from my experience that user parameters in filters never ZW worked. I used to use them and they worked fine. I set a user param in a common filter and later checked it in an account-specific filter. It has been a while though. ZW Their use was never sufficiently explained as well. Well duh! This is The Bat! we're talking about... :-) -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.16.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.26.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 4 BETA
Peter Meyns wrote: PM ,- [ voyager_key_ex.reg ] PM | REGEDIT4 PM | PM | [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] PM `- That's a strange message. There's no In-Reply-To header, and the References header is: ,- [ From mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | | References: REGEDIT4 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] | `- Is that a Voyager thing, avast!, ...? I don't see a way to view full headers in the list archive or Gmane, but Gmane appears to have threaded it by subject so I'm guessing it's not just at my end. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.16.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Option to 'Exclude Signature' when searching in 'Text'
Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: HO George Mitchell wrote on 12/02/2008 at 10:25:19 +1100 If you're sure there's a valid signature delimiter in the message you're looking for, you can use a regular expression as a workaround. Using 'match' instead of 'contains', search for something like: mygate[\S\s]*--\s HO There is also the other more secure sig delimiter: - -- HO DashSpaceDashDash Good point. Might be better to drop the last \s: mygate[\S\s]*-- This'll catch either signature delimiter and probably won't result in many more false positives. I think that's better anyway since this should be as easy to remember and type as possible. Also, I guess the asterisk probably ought to be a plus, but likely makes no practical difference: mygate[\S\s]+-- -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.14 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Option to 'Exclude Signature' when searching in 'Text'
MAU wrote: M This is why I think that it would be useful to have an 'Exclude M Signature' option that, when searching in Text, would stop the search at M signature delimiter dashdashspace. M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6780 Supported. I've thought the same thing in the past but was too lazy to open a BT wish. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.12.1 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.12.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Option to 'Exclude Signature' when searching in 'Text'
MAU wrote: M many of the found messages were so because the keyword I was using (for M example MyGate) appeared in the signature of many posters. M This is why I think that it would be useful to have an 'Exclude M Signature' option that, when searching in Text, would stop the search at M signature delimiter dashdashspace. If you're sure there's a valid signature delimiter in the message you're looking for, you can use a regular expression as a workaround. Using 'match' instead of 'contains', search for something like: mygate[\S\s]*--\s It's not perfect (it'll miss messages with MyGate but no signature delimiter), but I mention it because it could be useful. I remember having this same problem a while back trying to search for 'MyMacros'. I gave up, but this technique would have given me useful results. Hopefully a regular expression guru is lurking and can come up with something better. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.12.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The new GUI (was: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!)
Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Other differences include: MM # The new status bar with easier controls; Ever plan to make the status bar and tabs use system colors? They really stand out now, and not in a good way. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.7 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Left-right align (was:: 4.0.9)
Rick Grunwald wrote: Seriously, numbers should be right-aligned IMO. RG Look at that sharp looking left aligned row of numbers though ... RG :)) Yeah, yeah, yeah... Actually I'd happily accept left-aligned numbers if they'd just make my status bar match the rest of my system (and not by turning the rest of my system pale blue). -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.11 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Left-right align (was:: 4.0.9)
Rick Grunwald wrote: RG However diversity is good ... make it configurable :)) Why is everyone overlooking the obvious compromise... Center it! Seriously, numbers should be right-aligned IMO. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.11 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test of Micro Ed (Plain Text) - Lucida Console
Bob Riley wrote: BR I have no trouble adding spaces. I don't know why some have BR trouble there. Keyboard Issue? Language issue in Windows? It only eats spaces for me if Auto-Format is on. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))
Marek Mikus wrote: MM and new Microed will be not announced? ;-) With the new MicroEd, if I have Auto-Format enabled space characters between words are ignored. Likethis,forexample. And with Auto-Format off and Auto-Wrap on, the wrapping gets really weird if I go back and insert text in a paragraph. It'll start wrapping individual words onto separate lines. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All 4.0.0.* versions. AV when first moving folder tree scroll bar
MAU wrote: M Not here, sorry. I get my folder tree in the same position I left M it the last time I shut down TB. And no AV when I scroll. What's weird for me is that with my normal window size and folder tree state it doesn't need a scroll bar, yet the top of the tree is scrolled up off screen when I start the program. As soon as I scroll it back down the scroll bar disappears. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Potential Bug with Search Feature
Ethan J. Mings wrote: EJM Highlight the first e-mail account in the account tree. Select EJM Search from the menu bar EJM A Pop Up dialogue appears asking for a password ( I don't have a EJM password set) EJM If you don't enter something you get an Access Violation error. Confirmed if I press OK on the password dialog without entering anything. No AV if I cancel out of it. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpellCheck Not working for me?
MAU wrote: M SCCE was broken in this alpha series and fixed in 4.0.0.9, you need M to install (copy to TheBat! directory) the SSCE5532.dll that was M included in in the .rar file. I've been waiting for spell checking to try the 4.x alphas, and I just now grabbed the tba40011.rar file. Unfortunately it doesn't include this dll and the links to the older .rars no longer work. The beta page on RITLabs' site seems broken and Google was no help. Can anybody help me get a copy? Thanks. -- George Using The Bat! 3.98.3 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpellCheck Not working for me?
Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Check your email :) Got it, thanks! -- George Using The Bat! 3.98.3 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All 4.0.0.* versions. AV when first moving folder tree scroll bar
Roger Phillips wrote: RP In all 4.0.0.* versions, TB opens with my folder tree in its RP upmost position and a vertical scroll bar is in position. If I RP double click on the scroll bar and slide it upwards all is OK. RP But if I click in the space above the scroll bar the tree moves OK RP but I get an AV as shown in the attached 'scroll bar AV.jpg' file. RP Any confirmations? Yep, same for me in 4.0.0.11. -- George Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML
Vili wrote: V Please send me an example, how it should be done. I kind of V feel ashamed of saying that it works, and now I cannot reproduce it V :((( What bothers me that I KNOW, it worked ok before. I'm having a hard time seeing how this ever worked. As MAU pointed out, TB! is sending a multipart/mixed message with plain-text and HTML sections, and the HTML is an attachment. The fact that TB! displays these sections on separate tabs is an implementation detail. A client could display both sections inline - plain text followed by HTML in the same window - or offer the HTML as an attachment icon, or... The point is without knowing the recipient's client there's no way to know how it's going to be presented to them. I'm no expert, but I believe that with multipart/mixed the receiving client is obligated to present both sections, however it sees fit. AFAIK, the multipart/alternative type is the only way a client would be able to ignore one section in favor of another. -- George Using The Bat! 3.98.3 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists
Raymund Tump wrote: I use an e-mail address on these lists that is not used anywhere else, but I have received my first spam to this address. RT Well, that doesn't mean anything. I have an email address that I never RT use (I got it all along with my ISP connection) and from time to time RT I got a spam mail to that one. I've been using unique addresses for these lists for a long time now, and they do periodically get compromised. I'm up to address #4. This most recent time I started to get a steady stream of Nigerian scam type emails to my list address. RT No one has that mail address in a address book either. So I guess RT someone's just trying addresses. I have a lot of addresses at this domain and it's very rare for any of them to get a spam. There's no way a dictionary attack is hitting my list address and no others. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Export templates messed up
Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC A reminder of what Zygmunt Wereszczynski typed on: Thursday, SC February 15, 2007 at 19:48:45 GMT +0100 ZW So, the authors are kindly requested to restore previous ZW functionality. Unicode is very convenient, but not in these ZW places. SC Yes agreed. If an export of unicode is required then it should be a SC choice as opposed to doing away with a text export. SC Should I do a bug report? I'd support it. I'm sure one could make valid theoretical arguments on why exporting Unicode is a good idea, but in practice it seems like a bad one. Especially given that it appears to have broken stuff for a number of folks. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Export templates messed up
Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC Please add support at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6228 Done. Thanks for entering that. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Export templates messed up
Hi all, I have a filter that exports a message to a text file using the 'Plain text' option with a template. With the latest version of TB! the output gets an extra space between each character. For example, a template including '%SUBJECT' will output 'T h i s i s t h e s u b j e c t' instead of 'This is the subject'. This behavior started sometime between 3.95.08 and 3.96.03. Any one else see this? -- George Using The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Export templates messed up
Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC Monday, February 12, 2007, 8:48:38 PM, you wrote: I have a filter that exports a message to a text file using the 'Plain text' option with a template. With the latest version of TB! the output gets an extra space between each character. SC Yes I have exactly the same problem. I was told that it was due to SC unicode and that a unicode text editor would allow me to see it SC correctly. Yup, that's it. SC This is true, but when you try to import the resulting info into a SC database it does not recognize the unicode text. And apparently XP doesn't recognize unicode batch files, 'cause that's what I'm using it to create. SC I do not understand the logic of exporting unicode when it exports SC text. Nor do I. That's the kind of change that can break stuff for existing users. It's a nice capability, but ought to be an option. SC See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for my discussion. Thanks for the link. I'd missed that one. -- George Using The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) is now available
9Val wrote: 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [-] AVs on exit I had avoided the 3.96.x releases until this fix. Unfortunately, I just got a crash on exit. I do a bunch of purging/compressing on exit and it appears to have happened after all that was complete. I have MyMacros, ajs Macros and the NOD32 anti-virus plug-in. I do not have TB! automatically check for updates. -- George Using The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.96.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: common QTs
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK I'd like to suggest the implementation of common quick ASK templates, just like we have common folders and common filters. Very good idea. I created a dummy account called Global for exactly that reason - a place to store common QTs. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.72.05: 'Run external action' filter action broken
MAU wrote: M I think you should open a BT report. Done: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5795 If anyone else has noticed this, or feels like messing with it (I added detailed steps to reproduce in the BT report), confirmations would be much appreciated. -- George Using The Bat! 3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.72.05: 'Run external action' filter action broken
Hi all, I have a filter that uses the Run external action action to execute a Perl script, passing the raw message file as a parameter. The action's Wait for completion and Import the process' stdout... options are both checked, with an existing folder specified. This has all been working fine for some time. With 3.72.05, if the Import... option is checked the filter will fail. The re-filter results dialog and filter log don't even show the message as matching, and no action is taken. Each time the filter tries to execute, TB! logs the following in except.log: v3.72.05 (Beta) EARTH/george 4/4/2006 7:52:11 PM MHunter:1 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0081F939 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address If I uncheck the Import... option in 3.72.05 the filter works, but doesn't do what I want of course. If I revert back to 3.70.07 everything works as expected. I actually first noticed this in 3.71.03 but failed to report it then. Anyone else use this option, and if so can you confirm this behavior? Or should I just open a BT item? -- George Using The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates
Roelof Otten wrote: MB It is not a new feature that I'm asking for. RO Yes, it is a new feature. Just because you don't understand what's RO causing the issue, doesn't mean it's a bug. IMO, this is a bug; just not one that has anything to do with templates. If you save, close and reopen a message, the editor should be in *exactly* the same state as it was before closing. The complete message state, including any PGP settings, should be saved with the draft message. -- George Using The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF It's not a bug, because it works exactly as designed. As Roelof TF pointed out. I'm guessing it's more an oversight than a design decision. In any case, message state is being discarded on save and in my book that's a bug. GM If you save, close and reopen a message, the editor should be in GM *exactly* the same state as it was before closing. The complete GM message state, including any PGP settings, should be saved with GM the draft message. TF I agree. And this is exactly why a Drafts folder is being requested. I don't see the connection. The issue here is what is or isn't being saved, not where. -- George Using The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?
MAU wrote: M Don't you think that this history of searches should be unique and M global? I would certainly prefer so as, otherwise, I have to M remember which account had focus when I did the search or change to M different accounts to try to find it. Not the way I use The Bat! In my setup, the nature of the emails in various accounts tends to be very different. A search criteria that makes sense in one account is almost certainly not going to be relevant for any of the other accounts. -- George Using The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Unfortunately, I cannot activate any type of editor different than ZW my default (here: MicroEd). I tried this macro in Quick Templates ZW and in ordinary ones - it changed nothing. It seems to work OK for me in an address book template for new messages. The window opens with the specified editor, though the status bar indicates the default (MicroEd) until I move focus to the message body area. It doesn't appear to work in a QT. -- George Using The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OT] Re: It worries me...
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Hello George Mitchell everyone else, ASK on 30-Jun-2005 at 05:41 you (George Mitchell) wrote: ASK Are you a programmer? Yes. ASK And you have maintained projects of similar complexity, I assume? As part of a team I was involved in the development/maintenance of a much more complicated project. Obviously, I'm not privy to Ritlabs' internal processes and TB!'s architecture. But, from my observations of TB! releases, I'm certain their processes are flawed and I fear the program's architecture is as well. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.5.34 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OT] Re: It worries me...
Natasha V Pearce wrote: NVP It's a little like a bird emerging from its egg for the first NVP time. More like a house of cards that keeps getting taller and taller... Clearly the code has exceeded the developers' ability to manage it. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.5.33 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OT] Re: It worries me...
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Hello George Mitchell everyone else, ASK Are you a programmer? Yes. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.5.33 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: the bat! wishes
Roelof Otten wrote: RO On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:21:35 +0100GMT (17-2-2005, 23:21 +0100, RO where I live), you wrote: CR What about adding an option in the options/preferences dialog to CR give the possibility to the user to store its preferences in a CR local .ini file in case of storing the bat! and e-mails on a usb CR key ? RO And where would you like to store that value? In the registry, so that RO you need the registry after all? Or in the .ini file, so that all RO users on the same computer are bound to same settings? I think it's a good idea. Instead of an option TB! could check for the presence of the_bat.ini on startup, or the ini file could be specified as a command line parameter. The command line would be more flexible, though checking for the presence of a specifically named ini file might be safer; if you clicked the exe instead of the right shortcut on a foreign computer, you could easily contaminate the registry. Of course with either of these methods there'd need to be a way to create the ini file in the first place. Maybe TB! could read/write a registry export file. Then you could export TB!'s registry key on your home computer and put it on the USB key. Any preference changes you made on the road could optionally be made to the home system by simply importing the updated file. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common vs account filters
Marcus Ohlström wrote: MO Create a parent filter matching all messages and make your common MO filters subfilters of this catch-all-filter. Make sure Continue MO processing with other filters is ticked for the parent filter. Nice idea. If only common sub-filters worked: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common vs account filters
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF If the account-level filters were processed before the common TF filters, what I need to do could be accomplished. Would anybody TF else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish list as an TF option? It's already there: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3494 -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common vs account filters
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:11:10 +0100 GMT (06/01/2005, 06:11 +0700 TF GMT), MAU wrote: M No, please. The problem is that Common filters are still buggy. M Otherwise you could easily do what you wish. TF How can I do what I want to do with subfilters in common filters? TF Please describe. Marcus Ohlström described the technique pretty clearly in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. As I understand the problem, you have a lot of complicated common filters. Since the common filters are evaluated before account filters, you have to specify continue processing other filters for each common filter in order to get to the account filters. So, every message gets evaluated by every common filter, and this overwhelms TB!. Correct? If so, you could prevent this by having a single common filter with the special matching condition Any message. It would have continue processing other filters checked. All of your current existing common filters would become sub-filters of this one, and each sub-filter would have continue processing other filters unchecked. By definition each incoming message would match the common filter, so TB! would begin evaluating the sub-filters. This would continue until one was matched. At this point evaluation of all remaining sub-filters would abort, and since the parent filter allowed subsequent filters, the account filters would be evaluated. If only common sub-filters worked. M Again no, please. As soon as the bug(s) described in: M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 TF This describes that subfilters in common filters should work. I don't TF think this is related to my problem. This is a bug I think Ritlabs really needs to fix. Filtering is a pretty key feature, and a part of it simply doesn't work. It's not like this is an elusive bug. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Gmane / subject on replies with counter / threading
Greg Strong wrote: GS Thursday, December 23, 2004, 2:19:00 PM, MAU wrote: Doesn't Agent do _real_ threading? GS Apparently not because counts in the reply break the thread. OT, but... Agent has a Reply Prefixes setting in the Preferences dialog. I'm pretty sure that setting it to something like: re,re[2],re[3],re[4] will cause it to recognize the numbering. Since the numbers don't usually get very high in most threads, you probably don't need too many entries to handle the bulk of the cases. Too bad it won't recognize a RegExp for that. :-( It may not fix threading for existing messages, but should allow new ones to thread correctly. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
Hi all, I first noticed this problem in 3.0.2.1, and posted my findings here. There was no response and the problem hasn't been fixed, so I'll try again. I like the idea of peer review before opening a BT item, but when I don't get any should I just open a BT report? Anyway... For want of a better place to put manual filters, I create them as Read messages filters and set them to only be invoked by a hotkey. This works fine for an individual account. But, if I do the same thing as common filters, any sub-filters are evaluated when a message is marked read. To reproduce: - For an individual account, create a Read messages filter that is invoked *only* by a hotkey, matches any message and plays a sound. - Create a sub-filter of that filter that matches any message and plays a different sound. Select a message, hit the hotkey and you should hear both sounds. Cause a message to be marked read and you hear neither sound. This, IMO, is correct. - Do the exact same thing as above (use a different hotkey), but create the filters as common filters and share them with one or more accounts. When invoked by the hotkey, you will correctly hear both sounds. But, if you cause a message to be marked read you will hear the sub-filter's sound when neither should play. This was rather disconcerting, as one of my sub-filters was set to move messages to my common spam folder. As I read messages, they'd disappear from the folder. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Cannot confirm common filters behaviour which was described in ZW your message. I created two pairs of filters according to your ZW description and have both working exactly as they were set. Here ZW are my common filters: snip ZW Filters for specific account were similar. They are triggered by ZW different hotkey and play different sounds. Even if they were ZW assigned to account shared with common filters, they worked ZW correctly. Thanks for looking at this. I pasted your filters into my common read filters, changed the sounds, assigned a hotkey and shared them with all my accounts. The behavior is identical to what I described. The only difference I see between yours and mine is that I had the Check the messages against this rule option checked. That seems to have no effect. snip ZW Please copy and paste included filters and check the errors (having backup ZW copy either of ACCOUNT.ERB or ACCOUNT.SRB file). Filter created from scratch ZW work correctly without AV errors. The pasted filters work fine; I have no problem accessing/editing them. The only change I made was to change the PlaySound line to refer to valid files on my system before pasting. I'm not using encryption. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
MAU wrote: M Maybe it is related to this BT report: M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Indeed, that would explain it. Pretty serious bug IMO. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Where are Quick Templates?
Avi Yashar wrote: AY When I see the command to Create a Quick Template, I think that AY a Quick Template dialog box is going to open up and use the AY message I am currently editing (and from which I accessed this AY command) as a starting point for a new Quick Template. That could AY be quite useful. But this command is mysteriously grayed out. The menu item should be enabled if any text is selected. The new QT will be initialized with the selection. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV while manually switching folders
Hi all, I clicked on a folder in the unread tab got this AV: Access violation at address 006F1121 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 034A4F88. When I switched focus away form The Bat!, it rapidly put up a succession of error messages and ultimately stopped responding. I had to kill TB! From except.log: 10/19/2004 12:23:56 PM MBase:11 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00402196 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 29BC0104 -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! stopped responding doing...?
Hi all, I had TB! 3.0.2.1 running in the background doing its thing while I worked in other apps. I tried switching back to it and it had a completely blank main window and an hourglass. I waited for several minutes finally had to kill it. I have no idea what it was doing at the time it froze. It automatically checks several POP accounts fairly frequently, but there was no Connection Centre window open. I've given up on 3.0.2.1. Hopefully, 3.0.1.33 is more stable. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature request: before after common filters
Michael Geyer wrote: What I'd like is a way to specify common filters that execute after account ones. MG So do I a long time. Indeed. Sorry about the duplicate request, but I've been away from the beta stuff for a while. Rather than reading everything, I read through a bit of the recent stuff and then just marked ~2000 messages read. I'll try to keep up now. :-) MG Please feel free and add your notes to MG https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3494 Will do, assuming I can log in to BT. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Pointer Operation
Mary Bull wrote: MB I just had my second occurrence of the Warning Dialogue Window, MB Invalid Pointer Operation. MB I created a message to tbudl, pointed and clicked on the green-arrow MB icon for Send the Message and got the Warning. MB Used Message/Send Now, and the mail went with no further problem. MB Anyone else getting this Warning? Yes, just now. The error happened *as soon* as I hit the Send now button. I looked at except.log, and though there was no corresponding entry, there are several Invalid Pointer errors. It would appear that they can be silent, as one was logged right after I sent an earlier message and I never got a UI notification. I can post the details if they'd be helpful, though I can't tie them to a specific event. Update: after typing the above, I tried to save this message as a draft. Got the Invalid Pointer error, dismissed it and got an AV: Access violation at address 001C. Read of address 001C. Switched focus away from TB! and got another AV: Access violation at address 009DC198. Read of address 025C. Then the session deteriorated into alternating Invalid Pointer and AV dialogs. I finally had to kill TB! from Task Manager. The good news is that the message was saved. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common incoming filter fires multiple times (in 3.0.1.33)
I wrote: GM Note that the Mark SPAM filter fired four times. Ah, I thought; GM it's firing once for each time it's shared. I unchecked one of GM the accounts, but instead of firing three times on the next spam GM it fired five! I re-checked the fourth account, and of course it GM now fires six times. Apparently, each time I edit it, it fires an GM additional time. Just a note: I bit the bullet and grabbed 3.0.2.1, and this still happens. I deleted the existing filter, added a new one and it only fired once per message. But each time I edit it, it fires an additional time. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cosmetic glitches in v3.01
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF 7: NFS: No cancel botton. If I play with some filters but then TF decide not to go with it, I cannot Cancel. I have only OK and Help TF buttons. Furthermore, until Cancel functionality is added the OK button should be changed to Close. OK implies that there's a not OK alternative like the close (X) button on the title bar or the Escape key, both of which usually equate to Cancel. TF 9: Search window: Anywhere ticks all. Well, as long as I really mean TF Anywhere, I don't care. But if I take the tickmark off Anywhere, TF because I really mean Headers, I have to take all other tickmarks TF off manually. Please revert back to the previous behaviour of TF Anywhere, where the other options wheren't automatically ticked. I agree, this is irritating. IMO it would be better to disable the other checkboxes when Anywhere is checked. Plus, it's inconsistent; checking Headers doesn't cause Subject, Sender and Recipient to be checked. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common manual sub-filters fire when the parent doesn't
Hi all, For want of a better place to put manual filters, I create them as Read messages filters and set them to only be invoked by a hotkey. As I understand it, a sub-filter of a manual filter shouldn't be set to use a hotkey; you can't assign the same hotkey and it should fire if and only if its parent fires anyway. This works fine for an individual account. But, if I do the same thing as common filters, the sub-filter fires when a message is marked read. Hmmm, clear as mud. To reproduce: - For an individual account, create a Read messages filter that is invoked *only* by a hotkey, matches any message and plays a sound. - Create a sub-filter of that filter that matches any message and plays a different sound. Select a message, hit the hotkey and you should hear both sounds. Cause a message to be marked read and you hear neither sound. This, IMO, is correct. - Do the exact same thing as above, but create the filters as common filters and share them with all accounts. When invoked by the hotkey, you will correctly hear both sounds. But, if you cause a message to be marked read you will hear the sub-filter's sound, when neither should play. This was rather disconcerting, as one of my sub-filters was set to move messages to my common spam folder. As I read messages, they'd dissapear from view. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unedited filters disappear on TB! restart
Hi all, Create a new filter, but don't edit it in any way. Close and reopen the Sorting Office and it's still there. Close and restart TB!, open the Sorting Office and it's gone. You could argue no harm no foul since any edit will cause it to persist, but it's disconcerting to have stuff just disappear. It contributed to my initial unease with the NFS. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unedited filters disappear on TB! restart
Dierk Haasis wrote: DH You go into the Sorting Office, hit New Filter and leave? DH So, you didn't actually create a new filter but just an empty shell DH called New Filter? For reasons that are unimportant yes, that's exactly what I did. As I said, it's not tragic that the filters are gone but it's disturbing. Might be unrelated, but I wasn't surprised when Paul White indicated he'd lost filter edits. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Feature request: before after common filters
Hi all, It appears that common filters execute before any account filters. What I'd like is a way to specify common filters that execute after account ones. For example, I use POPFile for four of my accounts. The filter logic is the same in each account: 1. If POPFile marked a message as spam, an Incoming mail filter sets a color group and user param (another nice addition in NFS), and continues processing other filters. 2. Individual account filters file messages appropriately based on sender, recipient, etc. ignoring the spam status. 3. A final filter moves messages marked as spam, but not processed by any filter in step 2 to my common spam folder. This works well. If a message from a friend gets misclassified as spam it ends up in the right place, but with a visual indication it was classified incorrectly. I can use a common filter for step 1, but I have to use separate identical account filters for step 3. It would be nice to be able to specify both before and after common filters. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Why do macros exist?
Michael L. Wilson wrote: MLW Why do so many macros exist, when no one wants to see them used. MLW BayesIT! has macros, Bayes Filter has macros, MyMAcros has MLW macros, Zombie has MAcros, yet no one seems to use them and no MLW one wants them included in messages. Why? I'm guessing you're not really looking for a helpful answer, but... Use whatever macros you want to make up a bunch of reasonable length signatures, each saved as a separate QT. Create a text file with the names of each signature QT, one per line. Create a QT called choose_sig consisting of: %QInclude(%Cookie(%MailDir\MySigs.txt))%- using the correct path to your file of signature names. Now, just include: %QInclude(choose_sig)%- in your message templates. You get a random signature with each message. You don't really have to create the choose_sig QT, you could just put its code in each template, but using it puts the logic and path info in one place instead of scattered throughout your various message templates. You could also skip the text file and use the account cookies property to hold the signature QT names. Then just use: %QInclude(%Cookie)%- in your message templates. There are a bunch of ways to do this stuff. The point being, with a little imagination you can have some fun, use all your macros and not annoy people. I doubt many folks will object to getting your spam statistics in occasional small doses. I think it's the quantity that puts folks off. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Case sensitivity in filters
Michael L. Wilson wrote: MLW I wish to make a filter that will catch the word ball in the MLW subject. I want it to not depend on case. Regular expressions in filters seem to ignore case by default, for me anyway. IAE, you can explicitly set case sensitivity for regular expressions. Use (?i) to force a case insensitive match, (?-i) to match case. For example: (?i)ball matches ball, BALL or BalL. (?-i)BALL only matches on BALL (or BALLET, BALLISTIC, etc.). To restrict the match to a word, you could use: (?-i)\bBALL\b MLW Is the best way to use match on any and have all my words in regular MLW expressions like [Bb][Aa][Ll][Ll]? You could use match on any with each expression on its own line: (?i)sig (?-i)TOO (?i)long or, if you want all matches to be case insensitive, you could match on a single expression: (?i)sig|too|long I don't know if one is more efficient than the other. The first is probably easier to read/edit. Standard text matching might be case insensitive as well; play with it. The nice thing about regular expressions is that for a bit of added complexity you can be as precise as you need. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val
M i c C u l l e n wrote: MicCullen Yes, yes, this is all very entertaining, these analogies, MicCullen but what if coffee makes you vomit? Huh? That's covered. Use program 3. ,- [ MAU wrote: ] | Fill your cup with coffee | Now put 2 spoons of sugar in the cup | Stir it | Now throw you cup of coffee down the drain | Now drink it `- -- George Using The Rat! 3.0 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 3.00.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Discount for Beta Testers
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: KJMJ And the beta testers didn't get the rugged pulled out of them KJMJ anymore than regular users did (as a matter of fact, the regular KJMJ users probably did moreso, since they neven knew about the 3.0 KJMJ beta). A lot of people spent a lot of time and effort converting their filters to the new system. Then with *no* warning they were told they'd have to pay up to keep them. The disservice to regular users is that they're probably unaware that they're getting a version that as far as I can tell got no external testing. There was a 3.0 beta 1 which seemed to bury users in a blizzard of AVs if they opened the preferences dialog. The next day 3.0 was released with no beta 2 that I ever saw. Buyer beware. -- George Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Account.cfg and passwords
9Val wrote: 9 Now all account data is stored in account.cfn So the account.cfg files are obsolete? If I don't plan to revert to a previous version of TB! can I safely delete them? -- George Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Are you able to use strikeout font attribute in message list? I ZW don't remember how it was in previous versions, but setting this ZW attribute in TB 2.12 RC/3 does nothing for me. Not in RC/3. It did work before. ZW Is it a bug? I hope so. 9Val indicated it would work again in the release version. See: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- George Using The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Smileys
Hi all, First off, I do like the new smileys. And while I appreciate that they were developed off the clock so to speak, they're in the public beta now and, as always, the devil's in the details. The first issue I noticed is a cosmetic one. If a smiley is included in quoted text and the smiley is taller than the text line would ordinarily be, the quoted text marker lines up with the top of the line, not with the rest of the text on the line. No big deal, but looks bad IMO. More seriously, if you select some text that includes a smiley and hit F4 to reply, the smiley is omitted from the quoted text. On a similar note, if you copy selected text to the clipboard, text representations of any embedded smileys are omitted. I tried replacing one of the default 18x18 .ico files with a 16x16 one I liked better. When TB! rendered the new image it stretched it vertically to what looked like about twice its normal height. I need to mess with this more to see what's going on. And, for completeness sake, I'll mention the Start In folder thing here... -- George Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat! 2.05 Beta 1 is now available
Matt Thoene wrote: On Tuesday, March 9, 2004 @ 11:12:56 AM [-0700], Carsten Knobloch wrote: Anyway, Download: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tb205b01.rar Cool...there are some new tabs at the bottom of the folder list... Well, the unread tab has the potential to be incredibly useful. Except for one unfortunate behavior (IMO bug), I could see this becoming my default view of my Bat! world. The problem is that when the folder list is refreshed as new unread mail arrives, the currently viewed folder is removed from the list if it contains no more unread mail. Stated like that the behavior sounds reasonable, but it makes the view unusable for me. I use the standard setting to automatically mark mail read after a few seconds. If I'm in the process of reading the last unread message in a folder and new mail arrives, the message I'm currently reading suddenly vanishes and I'm looking at a completely different message. I think the currently selected folder should always remain in the view. -- George Using TB! 2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat! 2.05 Beta 1 is now available
I wrote: Well, the unread tab has the potential to be incredibly useful. Except for one unfortunate behavior (IMO bug), I could see this becoming my default view of my Bat! world. The problem is that when the folder list is refreshed as new unread mail arrives, the currently viewed folder is removed from the list if it contains no more unread mail. I just encountered a more serious problem with this. I initiated a Check mail for accounts request while on the Unread tab. A single message from one account came into a folder that I have set to show messages unthreaded and with newest on top. Apparently, the new message came up selected in the list when the folder appeared in the view and so was quickly marked read. As mail from other accounts came in, that folder vanished from the view. Luckily, that folder was one of the few I have a sound associated with so I knew to go check it. Otherwise I never would have seen that email. -- George Using TB! 2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird Menu Navigator behaviour
MaXxX wrote: Check whether you see the Menu Navigator button. Now, enter Options-Preferences, and OK out. The Menu Navigator will be gone. Now, enter Options-Preferences, and OK out again. The Menu Navigator will be back. Repeat for your own amusement. Yeah, I reported that here in 2.01.20. I guess I should have opened an official bug report. Other menu navigator issues I still notice: It doesn't grey out when the window it's on loses focus. The flashing when there are unread messages and the animated icon is enabled, confirmed by many. The tooltip for the Menu Navigator uses a yellow background. All other tooltips on my system (including others in TB!) are white. -- George Using TB! 2.02.3 CE on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.02 CE RC2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam...sigh
Zeynel A. Öztürk wrote: I've added X-POPFile-Link as a message header from Options-Preferences-Message headers. It shows the hyperlink on every message, see the attachment. Double clicking on the link works well. That's neat. I never thought of that, and would not have guessed you'd get a launchable link. As seldom as I need the link I don't think I want to give up the space it takes, but it looks like it can go in a scrollable header area. I learn something new every day. I love these lists. -- George Using TB! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam...sigh
Roman Katzer wrote: I did use POPFile and was happy with it in spite of its' use of resources. I switched to K9 after reading on the website http://keir.net/k9.html that it was the compiled version of POPFile. K9's not the compiled version of POPFile, it's a compiled program that does something similar. See questions 2 3 from K9's FAQ at http://keir.net/k9_faq.html : What is the difference between K9 and POPFile? What are the advantages of K9 over POPFile and POPFile over K9? I use POPFile and like it, but it is a memory hog. The interface is very intuitive and more convenient to use than the POPFile interface aswell. One potential advantage to POPFile's web interface is that you can set up a manual filter in TB! that will launch a browser window positioned on the message you're currently viewing. Handy for the rare instance POPFile misses something and you need to reclassify it. I don't know if anything like that is possible in K9. -- George Using TB! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
MaXxX wrote: I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called winmail.dat, but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own evil reasons, I ignored it. snip So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry the darned thing open?? As you suspected, Outlook sends weird stuff. Some information and solutions (including a link to a decoder) can be found at: http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm -- George Using TB! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
