Re[2]: TB v2.0 installation, numerous Access Violation Errors
Hello Leif, Friday, September 5, 2003, 1:51:07 AM, you wrote: LG Hello Costas, LG Thursday, September 4, 2003, 12:40:02 PM, you wrote: CP I'm just curious. Do you have a sophisticated filter or something CP else that detects top posters or do you actually review all CP messages and act accordingly when you see one with top posting? LG Oh no... We're watching you. Very, very closely grin LG A little of both actually. We (the moderators) read *every* single LG e-mail on the lists (remember, we're talking about TBUDL, TBBETA, LG TBDEV, and TBTECH) whether we have a personal interest in it or not. LG Once we see something wrong, then we have QTs to take care of it. LG Marck being in England, my being in the US, and Allie being in Jamaica LG gives us pretty much 24 hour coverage for moderation purposes. It's LG worked very well. Sounds with that spread you have a hole in the eastern hemisphere... At least I know from my work that 12 hours difference with florida is ideal Anyway, top-posting probably is easily found with a regexp. -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0 RC1 Windows 98 Current beta is 2.00.06 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving conversations to a forum ?
Hello Anne, Thursday, September 4, 2003, 7:59:56 AM, you wrote: A Thursday, September 4, 2003, 1:00:49 AM,Allen wrote: A Agreed . . . and the fact that, to me, it just seems more relevant A discussing a mail client via a closed mailing list rather than a web A forum. And it's rather convenient to be able to discuss and view the A topic of discussion all in the same program. A I think that the users of the forums tend to be those who don't want A or who don't have the time to read through seemingly endless mails to A find the answers they need. It's for those people that we need to A offer the forums as an alternative and complementary method of A support. It takes a lot mor time to read anything via the web and I sure havent got the time for them except for particular problems if I am NOT subscibed to a list like about Mac features... A One of the things I felt as a newcomer to these mailing lists was that A the sheer volume of messages could be overwhelming. This is were being A able to pop into a board and ask a question without having to receive A that mail traffic in order to get a response is what some users want A or need. Subscribe to a linux newsletter and you will realise that whats send about the bat is nil... A I don't think that the forums will ever replace these lists, nor would A I wish to see that happen! - but forums do serve a need for some users A and should be an offered alternative. After all it's about what sort A of support suits each best isn't it? I think you will find that the programmers and those who are busy will not have the time to checd the web... -- Best regards, tracer 2.0 RC1 Windows 98 Current beta is 2.00.06 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration Problem
Hello Bill McCarthy, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 05:29:04 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, August 16, 2003, 4:29:04 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Bill McCarthy wrote: Hello TB Beta List, After I registered v2, I returned to v1.62r and saw I was not registered! If I can only be registered for one, I'll pick 1.62r and just run the beta unregistered. I tried to register 1.62r but it requires a password that didn't come with the program's registration. I couldn't find any email from Ritlabs with a password. Doesn't anyone remember getting one? Years ago after running theBat for quite a while and thus being convinced that with all its bugs it was better then others with even more irritating bugs, I deleted my hacked version and registered it and got my key emailed. The password was under v1.xx what you yourself selected and from what you say it sounds like V2 got this thing removed. In a way a good thing as several times I thought I forgot that mine was pi or in how many decimal places... On the other hand I think that not only due to current bugs in beta 2 but also being stuck with a registration deadline, I prefer to wait testing v2 Essentially I have a very sick creditcard system, havent seen my card in at least 7 years I think Ok, I know where it is but believe me using and maintaining a card based in the UK while in Thailand is a pain... Unless I know what upgrade price is and whose creditcard can be used in exchange for a cash payment (Thomas in BKK??) By the way I was very busy, this latest worm is a gold mine to clean upI must have cleaned at least 100 PC's of that thing... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Skins for TB
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 16:38:04 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, August 16, 2003, 4:38:04 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Krister, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:11:43 +0200 GMT (16/08/2003, 16:11 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: PM You spoke my heart. Thank you! :-)) I agree wholeheartedly but i just want to add one more thing: When you make skinnable programs, in many many cases, accessibility goes straight down the drain, that is, a blind person using a screen reader is out of luck. I didn't know that! This is indeed an argument against a skin API. (Sorry Marck, I saw your dead-horse, but Krister's comment was on-topic I think, so I reply here. Hope this is OK.) Added as well, if you have a system problem I like to know where is what so that even without my screen showing anything useful I can close programs and reboot. One of the reasons why I want the My system Icon as the first on the screen (left top). The rest a user can stick where he wants but I did convince my customers to leave or put this one in its original place... Same with the Bat as its really unhealthy to your email files to reboot or crash the system with the Bat open. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration Problem
Hello Julien RANC, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:16:24 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, August 16, 2003, 6:16:24 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Julien RANC wrote: Bonjour Johannes, Saturday, August 16, 2003, 1:05:11 PM, I read: JP Actually I miss the password as well. Perhaps Stefan could enlight us JP a bit? ;-) Mine was written in the email including my registration key. It was saying: Your registration password is: xx This line was before the key and cheksum, in the middle of the thank you text. My email doesnt show my password but I asume that since Wed, 05 May 1999 15:54:12 GMT there may have been changes to the letter... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reregistration Idea is Dumb!
Hello Bill McCarthy, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:45:10 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, August 16, 2003, 9:45:10 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Bill McCarthy wrote: On Sat 16-Aug-03 10:30am -0400, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: regedit /c bat16x.reg Hmm, how did you find out about switches for regedit? I can't find the command line options in the XP Help and trying: regedit /? just starts the damn thing. That one has been around for ages. its telling regedit to grab the file supplied and import it to the registry Agreed under xp it doesnt show anything usable... when supplying /? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reregistration Idea is Dumb!
Hello Allie Martin, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:57:13 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, August 16, 2003, 9:57:13 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: Allen, [A] wrote: A I went ahead and upgraded to beta 2, I've still got a good 28 days A before I'm no longer able to read my mail. Here's to hoping they've A posted the upgrade policy within that time, and to hoping I can A afford it! To date, like you, I've found nothing official about the A upgrade policy yet. Stefan said in his beta/2 announcement: ,- / Stefan \ | Please note that this new Beta requires new registration keys. The | upgrade policy will be available from our official site shortly. `- I'm pretty sure that shortly will mean before the trial period expires. Still dumb as while I donot mind paying for the fun and the convenience its not that easy for me to arrange a payment as once in the past I found out. And I donot want to risk my email program expiring on me... So for me if betas will expire me, no more betas till I have aranged payment -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ridiculous Mail Count
Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:35:49 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 1:35:49 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Hi, Okay... I know I go a little mad with my emails... And I really do have quite a few mail folders, and mail in general, but there is no way in hell that I have 35 million emails in one folder... http://thebat.netdork.net/imap_bad_msg_folder_count.jpg I think you better read the numbers again and start downloading and reading(g)We will likely be up to the Bat v10 by that time you are finished... In fact, I'm not entirely sure if the beta list has had that many emails. If it has, then I truly have got into a big popular list ;) My beta folder isn't the only one that is affected. I have others that seem to be doing it as well, my SquirrelMail - Users list folder reports 135 million emails. I know it's a busy list (busier than tbbeta and tbudl put together), but that is seriously ridiculous. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: TheBat 2.00 Beta/2 is now unregistered?
Hello Paul Cartwright, On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:59:45 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 8:59:45 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Saturday, August 16, 2003, 9:58 PM, you wrote: MDP Please refer to the release notes!!! MDP ,--/ Stefan said \-- MDP | Please note that this new Beta requires new registration keys. The MDP | upgrade policy will be available from our official site shortly. MDP `-8- amazing how many people either ignored the notes or didn't read them... but this was inevitable, considering the way they put out the betas. Be honest, most times we stumbled over betas by accident and had to ask what had changed... In the last case though a clear warning was supplied. First free, then policy to be detailed later.. I don't like going from a registered version to an evaluation copy, not knowing the upgrade/cost policy going forward they should have spelled that out WITH the beta or before the beta. many people have commented on this, many are confused. and someone figured out how to setup Spampal ( or popfile) with SPAM in the subject line, and didn't remove it before they repliedG Ok, now your email managed like a few others to bypass Spampal and being marked as SPAM. AND I clearly have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my whitelist... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unregistration
Hello Dierk Haasis, On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:27:26 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 4:27:26 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello Martin! On Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 11:21:06 AM you wrote: [...] I can't understand the policy to change registration keys _during_ a beta cycle... Well, one could argue that the new registration scheme is a new feature, one to be tested, beta tested ... \ NOT on my real email. AND all v2Beta2 triggers spampal -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get new key?
Hello Martin Schoch, On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:51:29 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 7:51:29 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Martin Schoch wrote: Hi Dierk On Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:34:44 PM you wrote: Ganz privat: Ich weiß wirklich nicht mehr, was Du willst. Du hattest eine Frage gestellt, die ich Ernst genommen habe und versuchte so gut wie möglich zu beantworten. Außerdem versuchte ich Befürchtungen zu zerstreuen, die ich im Augenblick für ungerechtfertigt halte. Was willst Du noch? Ja klar, das ist der Ton, der mir echt gefällt, könnte ja auch so sein: Entweder du brauchst die alte Beta oder halt die Klappe und gehe weg. Der Spiegel wurde Dir noch von einem anderen User hier vorgehalten... Ich bin echt sauer. Sounds sauer(g). On the other hand remedy is simple, donot run betav2 if you arent happy without knowing consequences... Believe me , the best way to get clarification out soon as I myself donot mind the upgrade or to pay for it but I damn well donot want to risk an interrupted email supply... 30 days is not enough for a test, ok I am not testing if I like the Bat but I do want to know more then no doubt a few days before expiry we will be told. I live in Thailand and its not that easy to arrange payments and I really am to busy to hack that damned key... (or is it still a reset of the registry in a certain place to 0.(g)) oops.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2.0 Beta/2
Hello Peter Meyns, On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:05:28 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 8:05:28 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Meyns wrote: Hi Martin, on Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:16:45 +0200GMT (17.08.03, 14:16 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MS Well it seems the inner circle of testers which supports RITLabs to MS get better marketing has no problems with this policy... Neither have I for the moment. Relax and wait a couple of days. No-one has asked a price yet, so let's see what the official side will be. I can live with a nag screen for a few days... :) Not if it tells me its expiring in 30 days. Especially not if you live in Thailand where never is anything done on time. -- Best regards, tracer Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unregistration
Hello Tony Boom, On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:16:42 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, August 17, 2003, 8:16:42 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Tony Boom wrote: Hello Martin, A reminder of what Martin Schoch typed on: 17 August 2003 at 15:04:17 GMT +0200 MS And what is this good for? Absolutely nothing other than to wind people up... And he certainly seems to have achieved his objective with you. He told you it was hacked along with a few other choices for you to believe. You chose not to believe the most believable option :) Sounds like a childish trick if true.. and as a troll shouldnt be allowed on this list. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 2.0 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V.2! (was: Anti-virus plugins)
Hello Robert Golovniov, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:48:57 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Friday, August 1, 2003, 11:48:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Robert Golovniov wrote: On 28 2003 ., 17:54:59, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I'm not Stefan, but by definition an alpha-version is for in-house TF testing, and a downloadable test version will be called beta. ;-) Oh, Thomas, thank you for this clarification. As the saying goes, Live and Learn! Well, some alpha's and even engineering versions of some software/hardware are very limitedly distributed to those who know what the program does and really donot mind blowing something up... Note I am not saying the bat is in that category but I do remember some software I was send to be tested where the serial number was 1. Didnt work at all in some cases(g). Some of that sofware never even made it to release stage and thats one of the reasons one doesnt want prerelease software or hardware to start floating around... If it doesnt work it can kill the final product. The reverse can also be true as I know of one homecomputer manufacturer which bit the dust in the past as their product had been designed by them on a commercial machine to make the chip layout and nobody had ever told their engineers that sticking 2 oscilators next to each other in a microchip is just as bad an idea as with mechanical ones... Obviously they blamed the program not their engineers(g). Their chip was higly unstable, and the computer deservedly flopped Anyway a practical question: If I upgrade since I am back online to v2 beta, is it going to be any problem importing data from v1.6x data and secondly will it timeout??? I mean arent we supposed to have some cutoff to pay for an upgrade and for the fun of running betas and finding bugs To be honest, running these betas is more fun then receiving my emails... Also I had a major disaster on my hands, not due to the bat but it made me realise that some things might be done better. My request follows later... -- Best regards, tracer Current beta is 2.0b1 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message size exceeding feature request
Hello Leif Gregory, On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:34:41 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 10:34:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Leif Gregory wrote: Hello Sean, Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 9:23:07 AM, you wrote: SC Fair enough - sorry for this. No problem... Next time you get the trout! grin If thats the IRC trout there cannot be much left besides the bones... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/11 Current beta is 2.0b1 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invitation to vote
Hello Oleg Titov, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:03:43 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, February 8, 2003, 2:03:43 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Titov wrote: I need to admit that your argumentation is very strong. I cast my -100 vote on my invitation. Yeah, there is no need for it. Voting is closed ;-) I cannot see that voting on development is going to anything but a waste of time and a potential headache for everybody. Epecially if voted items donot get done for reasons which may be perfectly clear to the devlopers but not to the users... At least having been in development years ago I know what I would have done if this was suggested... Anyway, agreed with above vote (is -100 the minimum vote?? (g)) -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
request for better import of email method...
Friday, January 31, 2003 Hello tbbeta, I have 2 systems, both with The bat, one at home, one in my office. I moved due to lousy phone support my email to my office, but now 6 months later, find that several crashes (ie lost mail boxes) later and obviously 6 months of downloading makes both systems having different content. While I donot want to download from home I would like to have access to whats likely about 4 years of mail... I tried the synchronise option but its really a pain doing it that waay, MUCH easier to just archive the bats dir, take it to the other system and then import the mail. Problem is obviously clear: I would have to import mail FOLDER by folder, a horrible job... How complicated woult be to import ALL mail in one go. removal of all duplicates is easy as that already exist and if anyone has modified folder names, well manually fixing that up shouldnt be that much work... -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 1.63b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virus Plugins
Hello Dierk Haasis, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:42:59 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 16, 2003, 2:42:59 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello Timothy! On Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 8:29:21 PM you wrote: So I'm looking for an alternative, preferably one with a good log file. I don't have any trouble - even with real-time scanning of TB TMP files - with F-Secure 5.41. There isn't a plug-in available, but until now TMP files have been scanned while in use by TB and never ever has F-Secure rendered TB useless after discovering malware. correct. I use the Bat and Fsecure 5.40 (didnt know 5.41 was out...). But as I run Zonealarm (checks extensions etc) and an antitrojan as well, not much reaches the Bat anyway, especially as my mailserver also checks... Anyway, I save as mentioned earlier all attachments as files and in that case any decent AV will catch the file saved off if it has a virus... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current beta is 1.63b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Pro
Hello Alexander Leschinsky, On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:45:28 +0600 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, June 23, 2002, 6:45:28 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: Hello tracer, On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:25:32 +0700 (23.06.02 04:25 my local time) you wrote about TheBat! Pro, at least in part: t Seems very similar to the secure bat unless I miss something... Different hardware-token used More secure??? or less... I myself am not that fond of the manufacturer of the token as used on secure bat but can obviously not comment on whats used in the Pro version... And why the export restriction?? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bug: SMTP dialog
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 06:42:39 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, June 15, 2002, 6:42:39 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schoch [MS] wrote: JP So there is no bug. If you prefer to have a hostname in there JP (why would you want to?!), then set it in the right properties, JP namely the TCP/IP properties. MS Can you say me exactly where. I think this is what they're referring to: In Win95, you can go into the network properties and then bring up the properties for tcp/ip-dialup adapter. Go to the DNS tab and enable DNS. Put the host name as the machine name and put in your ISP DNS server addresses. Done. In Win2k, things don't seem to be as straight-forward. I don't see a place to enter a host name. Sorry for adding one more message to this dead horse... Under Xp, and I havent got a 2000 system handy its under the tcp/ip network protocols of the dialup adapter. However if you mess around with it the wrong way the result can easily be no internet... Now forgetting the original subject as its more a matter of opinion whats best, there is a very good reason to use IP numbers where ever you can and where they arent changing. Many times I have had problems that some nameserver gets confused and if one specifies one's smtp and pop with the correct IP numbers instead of using some auto setting, one will find, as mentioned, increased speed as the nameserver doesnt have to be accessed to find the mail server. I have been in situations where the only way to get mail to / from my customers was to use known ip addresses. And, while for convenience I may not specify them in customers systems, the ones I likely will need are sitting on a printout above my desk. Secondly from a security point of view the less user specified data is passed on the better... Why does one want people to know that its a specific person using a DELL -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TheBat! Pro
Hello Oleg Titov, On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:26:34 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, June 9, 2002, 3:26:34 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Titov wrote: Hello tbbeta, Some time ago someone was asking where to get TheBat! Pro. Recently I found this link http://www.ozon.ru/detail.cfm/ent=777id=31666 which will take you to one of the best russian online shops to purchase TB! Pro. They *do* deliver worldwide (i am their client for more than 3 years). If you do not read russian, try http://babel.altavista.com or www.translate.ru to translate pages. Or get in contact with RITLabs for order information. Seems very similar to the secure bat unless I miss something... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bug: SMTP dialog
Hello Marck D Pearlstone, On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 14:35:29 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 14, 2002, 8:35:29 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: 4) It is an unwise man that argues MTA/MUA logic with Syafril Hermansyah ;-). Now that I quite believe (g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bug: SMTP dialog
Hello Martin Schoch, On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:01:40 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 14, 2002, 11:01:40 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Martin Schoch wrote: Hello Alexander Leschinsky AL Bercause any from named MUA use delirium (sic!) as EHLO parameter, AL The Bat _tries_ to be RFC-compliant, and got censored terms here AL from stupid, lame, suxx 2000 Hmm - but on my old Win95 PC it's the same thing... And why all other clients I have here on Win2k SP2 do it alright? Maybe they 'fix' a MS bug?? Ie they do it really wrong -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bug: SMTP dialog
Hello tracer, On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:33:25 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, June 23, 2002, 5:33:25 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, tracer wrote: Hello Marck D Pearlstone, On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 14:35:29 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 14, 2002, 8:35:29 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: 4) It is an unwise man that argues MTA/MUA logic with Syafril Hermansyah ;-). Now that I quite believe (g) sorry, just saw the dead horse flag... 6 am in the morning here trying to catch up on my mail... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: CryptoAPI (CSP drivers)
Hello Maxim Masiutin, On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 03:22:26 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 3, 2002, 7:22:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Hi Oleg, On Sun, 02 Jun 2002, at 00:48:01 [GMT -0500] (which was 8:48 where I live) you wrote: thanks, I read that press-release mostly on April 25th :) Same day I went to www.ritlabs.com to get more details and have not found any track of TB!Pro. Same thing happened today. I would very appreciate if you could create (or make public) a web page on your site about TB! Pro. That should be a great product. The Bat! Pro has been released as a retail edition (box with a CD, manuals and a eToken) for Russian market. We are planning to release an English retail version of SecureBat!, we'll put information to our site when it will be released. So whats the price of this Russian Secure bat?? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.60j
Hello Dieter Hummel, On Sun, 5 May 2002 20:09:17 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, May 6, 2002, 1:09:17 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dieter Hummel wrote: Good evening List Members, on 04.05.2002 at 13:14, Mark Knipfer wrote: What does 1.60J fix? As far as I can see, the logfile entries are corrected now. I complained a while back that new emails setup on myrealbox.com refused to download and popped up the screen where you could say if you wanted to see them, download them or whatever, doesnt happen anymore so somewhere in the last week it must have been fixed... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60j mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: .msg attachments
Hello Nick Andriash, On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:33:38 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Friday, April 12, 2002, 1:33:38 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Hello John, On Thursday, April 11 2002 at 02:22 AM PDT, you wrote: My internal office mail from M$ Post Office on an NT4.0 SP6 network, is transferred to my external address from my Outofluck XP account via a filter. Why do you find the need to slag Microsoft? Considering the flood of security holes in the latest software, I think one could say it even stronger... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Kaspersky plug-in - working or not?
Hello Miles Alexander, On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:16:19 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 1, 2002, 6:16:19 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Miles Alexander wrote: Hello Allie, Historians believe that on Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 5:46:13 PM, was when, Allie typed the following: ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM @ 05:30:45 +0700 [ Mon, 1 Apr 2002], Tracer [T] thoughtfully wrote the ACM following: ACM ... T Leaving msgs with attachments included in the msgbase makes files T bigger and if you corrupt your emails you also lose the attachments T and those would likely be more important then the emails ACM Interesting pro. ACM However, if you store your attachments outside the message bodies and ACM you wish to move messages to another account, you're in for trouble. ACM The messages will lose the links to their respective attachments. possibly snipped I use F-Prot DOS AVP *and* KAV's DOS AVP as quasi plugins flagging for anything coming in with an attachment. I move the attachment (a copy) to a designated folder, run the DOS programs, flag the attachment in question and make note of it when processing returns to the email transaction as it progresses. Fprotect has both Fprotect and AVP scans and under NT something called Orion. I donot want to determine what worries me, not with as much mail as I get. Much better to automate it. And this way you can use any AV product even if Norton and MCafee still stink in my opinion... Good for business though when they call me in to clean their systems out... Putting the filter close to the top (those trusted filters are above) tracks all attachments that I *may* be concerned about. Ah, but I am concerned about all of them... To many come from places where a virus might come from... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Kaspersky plug-in - working or not?
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:46:13 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 1, 2002, 5:46:13 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: @ 05:30:45 +0700 [ Mon, 1 Apr 2002], Tracer [T] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... T Leaving msgs with attachments included in the msgbase makes files T bigger and if you corrupt your emails you also lose the attachments T and those would likely be more important then the emails Interesting pro. However, if you store your attachments outside the message bodies and you wish to move messages to another account, you're in for trouble. The messages will lose the links to their respective attachments. I filter everything coming in and as everything gets stored in one attachment directory, I havent lost a link once sofar as attachment saved isnt moving and email still points to the same place. I agree if I move to another account I could lose them but ALL my mail sends attachments to the same place and if I want them elsewhere I just goto the email and save them where I want them for other usage. Afterall you have the option where you want attachments and all of mine goto The BAT\Attachments. One big attachment bucket. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Mail To URL's don't fill in To: Line
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 15:37:30 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 1, 2002, 3:37:30 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: @ 21:18:25 +0100 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], Chris Wilson [CW] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... CW Not sure how to explain this, but on web based BBS's if i click on a CW mail to URL The Bat! opens as before, but no longer with the To: Line CW filled in. I hope this will work, try the last offending message, the CW post from a Mark Ayling (but PLEASE don't actually send him mails) CW :-) I beg your pardon. I confirm the failure of the address being filled in. The problem is not in TB! but in the URI. The URI actually says: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a space after the colon. You can try the link on the subtoolbar marked 'e-mail'. Just holding the pointer over the links and looking at the status bar should show you the difference in the links. Sorry Ali, I clicked both of them to be answered and I get email address in my to be send email... I am not using RTV as I just donot like to miss half the text of my ariving messages No idea when this gets send as last night at 9 pm I suddenly had some explosions and fire in my PC and while most of it works as far as I can see I havent got a powersupply to run all my hardware (OLD one blew up with really a big bang and fire and smoke)INSIDE my PC. Modem also sofar isnt found so I may have blown either the modem or com port From what I can see a cockroach laid eggs in my powersupply and they hatched and some walked the wrong way... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: moving filters from installation to installation
Hello Dwight A Corrin, On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 14:53:25 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 2, 2002, 3:53:25 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I have two versions of TB! on my machine, for reasons which don't really matter, but this problem also exists with the same version on two machines. I create new filters all too often, in order to deal with surges of spam from spamers I haven't heard from before. Is there a way to copy filters from one instance to another? Can you copy them? Filters don't seem to be included when syncing. (It's also a big pain that lots of filters get reset to point to the inbox because folders get lost in the syncing process, but I suppose that's for another complaint) Agreed, just having had to recover my folders, about 200 or so I find it a real pain that when folders arent present, filters reset themselves to inbox... And then After getting my folders back I have the problem of all those bad filters... FIX please -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.54 Beta/44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: Wish : new Options/Preference
Hello Dwight A Corrin, On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 09:14:20 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, February 9, 2002, 10:14:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dwight A Corrin wrote: On Saturday, February 9, 2002, 4:53:02 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: What I mean is, when clicking on the upper rigth cross usually used tu close the program, I want the Bat! to be minimized in the system tray (with an option) Which would actually be a break of GUI standards - and it took a long time to persuade MS to adhere to them. OS/2 used them with version 2.1 when MS still stood with Windows 3.1x. I can't think of anything which would be much worse for a programer to do than to change a program so that trying to close it in the usual manner would not. Agreed... Whats wrong with minimizing the normal way or if you want an option which might even exist is to make the minimize goto the system tray... However shutdown gui is Shutdown... it would be very annoying to have one program do it different from others, especially if its one often used. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.54 Beta/31 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: SMTP Authentication
Hello Günther Eisele, On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:03:44 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 15, 2001, 4:03:44 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Günther Eisele wrote: Hei, CaLViN wrote: did someone try this and can confirm that it is working correctly? Do you mean RFC 2554 authentication (this works correctly e.g. with GMX, the largest freemail provider in Germany) or SMTP after POP, which doesn't work when using Alt+F2 (tested with web.de)? I use it with myrealbox.com, no problems. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.53bis mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: 2 things donot work over a whole account..
Hello Andrew K. Lovetski, On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:42:16 +0400 GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 15, 2001, 7:42:16 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Andrew K. Lovetski wrote: Hello, tracer! t 2. One doesnt seem to be able to export a WHOLE account. I quite t often use the Bat on my system to recover messed up mailboxes t from customers having used alternative products which got t corrupted. Again many of the the bat can read but afterall t customers also want to read their mail... I donot really like to t export folder by folder... Added what would be the simplest way t to export from the Bat back into a format that horrible outlook t express can read They will likely corrupt their stuff again t but thats what they want... I didn't quite understand what you want, I'm sorry. Have you tried TB Backup internal facility? You can backup the whole account. Or do you need to export the whole account into a form that can be imported by Outlook Express? Allas this last Otherwise I have to leave them with a Bat DEMO, and I have done that a few times so that they have time to get at least their mail answered / printed Then you can create a simple batch file, that will generate a command file for TB to export the folders, folder by folder. AFAIR, NT's batch files support enumerating folders. But I'm on Win9x now, so I cannot test it, and I can be wrong. If so, you can try to write a KIX script (http://kixtart.org/) to do the thing. You'll easily find a similar script in the website forums, and the only thing you'll have to do would be to alter it a bit for your particular need. Seems simpler to stick them with a DEMO Bat, they may smarten up and convert... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.53bis mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Virus Protection
Hello -=/ Cees /=-, On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:50:50 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 25, 2001, 5:50:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, -=/ Cees /=- wrote: Hallo Timothy, Thursday, January 25, 2001, 11:40:11 AM, you wrote: TC Is the Bat, able to work with Norton Antivirus or is there something TC better out there than Norton that you Gurus suggest. Norton and Mc Afee are lousy. Makes me money so please anyone near me KEEP using it (g) today a customer with latest updates still didnt see CIH virus in his system and he was dead lucky that yesterday (ie 26th) I was to busy to start his PC.. I use FPROT, and its great. http://antivirus.ca.com Inoculate IT, it's free and it's great! -=/ Cees /=- http://dierhulp.nb.nu/ "You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today. They left a little note on the windscreen which said, 'Parking Fine.'" - Tommy Cooper ___ The Bat! 1.49c [35099577], running on Windows NT 5.1 build 2296 -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.49 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: 1.49 release is here AND AGAIN NOT EVEN A BEEP FROM RITLABS!!
Hello Florian Effenberger, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:46:46 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, January 06, 2001, 4:46:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Try joining the announcement list. I received my announcement from RIT labs about the new version early this afternoon (US). I didn't receive anything so far - let's wait for the things to come ;-) I had my msg Jan 6 but I didnt see it -- Florian http://www.thebat.de German mailing list: http://liste.thebat.de German discussion board: http://forum.thebat.de -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.49 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Beta/7
Hello Peter Hampf, On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:16:42 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, November 18, 2000, 7:16:42 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Hampf wrote: Hello Maxim, on Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:56:19 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: MM [+] %ABxxxyyy macros to extract information from the address book. sounds good! But how can we use them? (Exact explanation, please) Any danger they go off and get used by soime virus? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.48 Beta/6 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Access violation (0040293B)
Hello Peter Hampf, On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:57:20 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, November 04, 2000, 11:57:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Hampf wrote: Hello Stefan, another one: I tried to get new mail. TB dialed out with no success and asked me to "retry/abort/ignore". I clicked "retry" and got Access violation at address 0040293B. Read of address 01EE. immediately. This one is reproducable whenever TB failed to dial out once. Whenever this error occurs, I have to shut down and restart TB to be able to dial out again. I have had some Accessviolations recently and while I just restarted the Bat, I wonder if anyone else has noticed more crashes then before -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Halloween Edition mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: AUTH-UNSUB blablablaYIEEE-HAWyaddayaddaBOOMBOOMarooooooEEOOEEEOO-oH-wHAT-A-sUBJECT
Hello MaXxX, On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:41:55 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, October 29, 2000, 2:41:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, MaXxX wrote: You type: MDP GRRR Gnash Gnash MDP How many times do I have to say this? DON'T use %TO macros in folder MDP templates. Don't do it: it's trouble. I happen to use them and they've never caused any trouble for me... .. maybe it's because they're in the "New Message" template, not in the reply, which would indeed be a stupid thing to do :) seems to me an easy solution, mark certain macros not to be usable in reply or produce a warning msg that usage there can be dangerous -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Halloween Edition mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 7.0 and TB 1.46d
Hello Nick Andriash, On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:16:03 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, September 30, 2000, 8:16:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: For those that may have PGP 7.0 installed, have you been able to get it to work with TB 1.46d? I cannot, and presume that RITLabs will have to come up with a PGP.DLL specifically for PGP 7.0 I thought beta 7.0 has expired??? -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP 7.0 and TB 1.46d
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:01:21 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, September 30, 2000, 1:01:21 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello Nick, NA For those that may have PGP 7.0 installed, have you been able to get it to NA work with TB 1.46d? I cannot, and presume that RITLabs will have to come NA up with a PGP.DLL specifically for PGP 7.0 We are going to write the plug-in when PGP v7 sources will be available - NAI guys constantly changing API calls and DLL names making it uneasy to quickly make a new plug-in each time a new version of PGP comes out... Makes you wonder why. Personally I wouldnt touch V7 unless the source code has been checked... Likely got other hidden accidental holes -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: regular expression from Alex..
Hello Christian Gassmann,
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:34:08 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, September 22, 2000, 5:34:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Christian Gassmann wrote:
Thanks for any help!
QUOTE
BTW, on the same matter: Has anyone managed to create a regexp which
filters out egroups banners?
Give it to them;-)
oneliner
%Cursor%Quotes="%SetPattRegExp=""(?is)(.*^-BEGIN PGP SIGN
ED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*|\A-.*---.*?\n{1,})?(.*?)
(^(- --\s*\n|- ---\s*\n|--\s*\n|---\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEG
IN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""%RegExpBlindMatch=""%text""%SubPatt=""3"""
/oneliner
If you like to match _only_ eGroups banners with this one, try substituting
"--_-" (w/o quotes)
for
"--.*?" in above regexp, but I can give no warranty that eGroups
will not change their delimiter... Besides, the "general syntax" gegexp works
well against other "group banners" I have encountered so far. It will only fail
if the message contains a long enough sequence of dashes in the body of the
message or in the signature.
Credits: Peter Steiner, Marck D. Pearlstone. I have somewhat edited the last
anti-PGP-sig macro suggested by Marck because I wanted to target both goals with
one regexp: to both strip off PGP stuff and to cut away the group banners...
EOQ
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Re[2]: regular expression from Alex..
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:23:26 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, September 23, 2000, 12:23:26 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: (snip) A point of convenience (usability) rather than a bug, I'd think. ;-) Since all my templates now contain the %SingleRe macro, it's of no urgency to me either. acc to Alex: Should we file a bug report or let Max and Stef work on TB v2? ;-) I believe, it deserves the formal bug report... I see no logic whatsoever in how this %ReplyCounter works, and _this_ is driving me nuts!;-((( We cannot afford to have Alex go nuts due to an illogical behaviour of mathematics (g)) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
regular expression from Alex..
Friday, September 22, 2000 I received reg expression from Alex. The part applicable from his message is quoted. I am not to sure what it does ... Quote BTW, here's a brand new regexp for you to take care of those subjects like Re: Fwd: Re[4]: Ha: Fwd: Re[56]: The Bat! vs. Eudora;-): oneliner %Subject="Re:%SetPattRegExp=""(?i)\A\:?(\s*(re|ha|rcpt|fwd)(\[\d*\])?:\s*)*(.*)""%RegExpBlindMatch=""%OSubj""%SubPatt=""4""" /oneliner I'd be interested in finding out how the %ReplyCounter macro works though: if you change the Re:%SetPattRegExp above with %ReplyCounter%SetPattRegExp, it doesn't seem to work as expected. Any secrets there?;-) EOQ note responses welcome... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA) (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: More fun with XLAT tables
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:01:20 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, September 06, 2000, 11:01:20 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello John, On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:02:26 +0100GMT (06/09/2000, 10:02 +0800GMT), John Sullivan wrote: JS So I've put up the XLAT tables for The Bat at: JS http://www.kanargh.force9.co.uk/tb-xlat/xlat-win-874.reg JS http://www.kanargh.force9.co.uk/tb-xlat/xlat-8859-11.reg I've installed these, but Thai emails still display as garbage. OK, it's ISO-8859-2 garbage now, not Chinese characters any more g, but then. I guess it's because I don't have monospaced Thai fonts. I looked at www.inet.co.th/support, but they only have TT. Does anybody know where I could find monospaced Thai fonts? Alternatively, what was the registry hack to allow True Type in TB? Thomas, I thought I send you one in the past. That one is mislaid here though. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: More fun with XLAT tables
Hello Ming-Li, On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:20:24 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, September 06, 2000, 7:20:24 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Ming-Li wrote: On Tuesday, September 05, 2000, 9:01:20 PM, Thomas wrote: I guess it's because I don't have monospaced Thai fonts. I looked at www.inet.co.th/support, but they only have TT. Does anybody know where I could find monospaced Thai fonts? Alternatively, what was the registry hack to allow True Type in TB? I think you mixed up TT fonts with proportional fonts. TT could be monospaced, like the built-in Courier New font. For your purpose, you'll need the Courier New font from a Thai Windows, though. Following the link you mentioned (www.inet.co.th/support), you can find monospace Thai fonts at http://thaigate.rd.nacsis.ac.jp/refer/windows/thai-ns.html#w95-s1 Thomas that font I send you in the past should do and anyway just let me know what font you need from Thai windows Shouldnt be any problem locating it here(g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Fwd: Thawte PGP Support
Hello Deryk Lister, On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:01:52 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, August 04, 2000, 8:01:52 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Deryk Lister wrote: Hi phil, On Friday 04/08/2000 at 11:47, you wrote: What does this mean for someone who doesn't have a key by Sept 1, 2000, or for those that have a key, but the year is now 2001? If they don't get a key by then, they won't be able to get it signed by Thawte. If they do have one, it will stay valid - at least for a year I think. In other words, if you don't have it signed by them yet then it's a good idea to do so ASAP before it's too late :) Don't know why they are going for S/MIME. It's very Microsoft-flavoured (ie. bloated), especially in the fact that it makes signed messages huge, whereas PGP sigs are quite small - and it takes a lot of effort and money to get yourself a decent certificate (ie with your name on and better than a measly 1024 bit RSA). want to bet thats one of the reasons? There is money to be made by those keys if controllable. Far prefer PGP myself. Free, secure, no harder to use, much less bloated. and free, not controlled by any of the big companies. Ok, commercial pgp may be but there isnt much they can do about charging for keys... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.46 Beta/1 is now available
Hello Syafril Hermansyah, On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:16:20 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 12:16:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: Hello Stefan Tanurkov, Responding to your article on Monday, July 31, 2000 at 18:36:44 GMT +0300 (which was 02/08/2000 22:36 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : ST What are other urgent issues please? :-) Would you mind to add "confirmation" when exit from The Bat!, especially if clicking "X" icon on right top windows. Sometimes I click wrong "X" icon windows, I want to close other windows but actually closing The Bat! :-( I wouldnt mind having a proper closing button instead of that right top corner thing. I clicked it as well several times by mistake on a cluttered screen... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Disaster
Hello Curtis, On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:38:31 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, July 29, 2000, 2:38:31 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Curtis wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:15:45 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: snip MDP Look, I fully accept that this has happened to you. However, I have MDP seen no evidence to warrant blaming TB for the problem you have MDP experienced. I have seen no reason to support the initial reaction you MDP expressed to this User Discussion List. MDP N.B.: I am not one of the authors of The Bat, I do not work for RIT MDP labs and have nothing to gain by saying it's not TB's fault. I'm just MDP expressing an opinion based on the evidence. . and I wholeheartedly share your view here Marck that the problem most likely does *not* lie with TB!. It's may sound rough and presumptuous, but my strong suspicion is that the problem lies between chair and keyboard/mouse when something bizarre as this happens. I speak from calamities that I've witnessed and experienced personally, especially when the system was not defective when the mishap occurred. well, having had to recover yesterday 5 years accounting data as someone had fdisked a drive with 2 partitions into ONE and that with the data still on it... I got it back, including all his napster stuff (g) Ok, something like this happning worries me but having gone through many betas I can not see how it could be the Bat doing this. About the only logical way I could explain it is if your program / exe have ended up in a different place or if you havent recreated the account with the same account name. If something like this happens forget the program to run your data. Go and browse in your system and look at any file there is. do a search on file extensions. I have had it with MS Outlook lost mail from customers it had ended up in 3 different places... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 S/MIME mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Disaster
Hello Daniel Marczisovszky, On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:08:10 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, July 29, 2000, 4:08:10 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Daniel Marczisovszky wrote: Hi Marck, Ming-Li and everybody out there. I was really in a bad mood this morning, but now I see there is nothing to do, so I'll try to forget it quickly. I'm using Windows NT4.0 SP6. Only TB! 1.45beta1 was running. I had _really_ a lot of work during the last few weeks, so I had no time to follow betas. Only TB! was running. This morning I woke up early, I have just finished developing a software that I wanted to send. At 6.50AM I fetched all my mail. I created the mail with the software (the attached file was about ~600K) and I put it in the Outbox, but I did not send it since I wanted to check the software before sending it. I exited from TB! and checked my software in Delphi. After that (7:19AM) I restarted TB! and pressed the Receive button, so TB! started to send the big mail, but I did not notice that all of my folders show 0 messages, since it was really early in the morning. When I realized it, I stopped sending. I received two mails. The interesting is at this time TB! could fetch mails, I restarted it, and after that even my account settings were gone, so I had to re-enter the smtp's address. One question, you say you wanted to check YOUR software, does that mean running it under windows? if yes, any chance your own software did it as seemingly thats the only thing you ran between a succesful mailrun and a run with lost data why donot you copy the bat to a different place and try to repeat that test you did under Delphi and see if the problem reoccurs... (I have experiences recovering harddrives, even when the partition or the partition table is unavaible, but recovering from a 6gig NTFS partition is almost impossible; Tiramisu has not found anything...) Its not difficult I do it all the time but it needs time and a large high speed system. secondly if files were replaced you likely would not find the old one in tiramisu anyway. I have four accounts. The active account is Daniel. All of directories are at their place, although their access time was set to 7:19AM. In the folder of Daniel I've found account.* files, but they were either 0-length or they stored those settings (flx) that you find when have a new TB! installation. In the other three accounts all of the files were deleted. The registry settings are correct, I've exported it yesterday, when I decided to upgrade to 1.45. (I upgraded to 1.45 only a few minutes ago.) If there is any detail I forget to mention, please ask it. Hopefully it will help. I'm sure TB! did it, since only TB specific files were removed. Check that testrun you did... afterall thats the only thing you did and we didnt Best wishes, Daniel -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 S/MIME mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How Do You Install a Certificate on Two Computers?
Hello Ron Mura, On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:37:45 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, July 22, 2000, 12:37:45 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Ron Mura wrote: I send and receive e-mail (same address) from two computers, one at home and one at work. I got a class 1 certificate from TC Trustcenter (http://www.trustcenter.de) and installed it on one computer. It all went fine. If I try to install the certificate on the other computer, I get a message that says "Error. Installation of your certificate failed. Please use the identical browser you used for the certificate request." (I am using the same identical browser _version_.) I don't know if TC Trustcenter would let me apply for another certificate for the same e-mail address from the second computer. Does anyone know what the procedure is supposed to be to install one certificate on multiple computers (or multiple partitions on the same machine)? more importantly, if they insist on the same browser or so, what if one changes OS or whatever or MS in case of ie changes things, could that mean keys will not work? It shouldnt make any difference to them what browser is used. Ron Mura -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Certs and future stuff
Hello Curtis, On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:51:11 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, July 19, 2000, 6:51:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Curtis wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 05:42:13 +0100, John Sullivan wrote: Would you care to explain that. I use version 6.5.3 of PGP and I use S/MIME. JS I don't doubt. As I said, I *could* have the wrong end of the stick JS completely. (I am using 6.0, not 6.5, though. I don't know what effect JS this might have on The Bat! though.) You're still using v1.42 beta19? I can understand the older version but why a beta of it? :-) JS Your signing key (0xee079937 F548 15D2 2799 EC9A ACF2 B429 F017 7921 JS EE07 9937) is a DH/DSS one. Do you use the exactly the same key with JS S/MIME? Yes. JS Is that The Bat!'s implementation of S/MIME? Yes. JS Do you have a certificate for that key from a well-known root CA? I'm not sure what you mean (spanking new to all this:-O)I got my certificate from Thawte. JS If so, I thought The Bat! only supported S/MIME using its internal JS crypto implementation. I thought that *that* only supported RSA keys. JS And I thought (based on TBBETA posts) that they were only allowed for JS S/MIME if a valid root-CA signed certificate was present. Well, PGP and S/MIME may be applied separately. When I apply the PGP signature, the plugin is used to do this. JS Signature is algorithmically correct, but I don't know you and your JS public key doesn't appear to be signed by anyone at all (let alone JS anyone I trust), so I won't self-sign it just yet ;-) No, it hasn't been signed by anyone. You've hit on a point that has concerned me. Most people whom I've received public keys from have not had theirs signed by anyone. Thats why they used to having signing parties in the past -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/10 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Signature, Schmignature.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jason Thompson, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:49:05 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 5:49:05 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jason Thompson wrote: Hello Steve and Bat Buddies... snip This is all very interesting and thought-provoking speculation, Steve. But do you have any reason other than _speculation_ to believe all this? Have you seen any tangible evidence of such widespread governmental snooping? To me, all this sounds like just another conspiracy theory. :-) Jason, they already did it in the Uk 30 years ago with phones. Its well known, the system exists, has been used for at least as long as Internet exists, its the reason AOL was able to pay that silly amount for ICQ and in short, YES. 100% sure. You havent even got a clue how much they can see. Which is why likely the whole pgp is having a second key with a nice backdoor provided my Ms which otherwise would have had the kick years ago. The USA NEEDS an OS with backdoors all over the place used worldwide. You want security, essentially forget any product provided by any main USA, UK, French and likely Russian provider... - -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOXbhGM/5+ZpP4fP3EQJ7gACeOSVyzabhClM2XNEiA0f6OCymOqsAn3uj llu1k70keark5KivgHWhdO9/ =jrzv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Signature, Schmignature.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hello Graham Foster,
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:04:00 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 6:04:00 PM (GMT+0700) my local
time,
Graham Foster wrote:
Hello Jason Thompson
This is all very interesting and thought-provoking speculation,
Steve. But do you have any reason other than _speculation_ to
believe all this? Have you seen any tangible evidence of such
widespread
governmental snooping? To
Well - there has been a great deal of press about it in national
and specialist computer press in the UK. US Gov wanting specialist
mail scanning ("Carnivore") boxes attached to every mail hub in the
USA.. UK Gov. wanting ISP to allow gov. to scan e-mail and passing
legislation to make it illegal to not divulge a password to secured
systems when they ask you for it... UK GCHQ has had a central
electronic communications scanning system for several years.
I was living next to one 16 years ago and it had been there for quite
a few years...
Not paranoia - it is real - its just that most people don't want to
know.
Still I don't suppose TBBeta mailing list is really THAT world
shatteringly important :-)
depends what you write on them and from where...
if your mail goes via any of the main nodes, it gets scanned.
Graham
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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iQA/AwUBOXbhw8/5+ZpP4fP3EQILngCgkeTdl4N1VcuE0oDUiGZYUlqq2RoAoO96
9YuHLJmHrKhrmA95UCo2nKFv
=Eito
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Re[2]: Signature, Schmignature.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:17:23 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 6:17:23 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Jason, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:49:05 -0700GMT (20/07/2000, 18:49 +0800GMT), Jason Thompson wrote: JT But do you have any reason other than _speculation_ to believe all JT this? Will articles in DER SPIEGEL be sufficient for you? Many other repectable news media have reported about this over the last couple of years. The issue in Germany is that the U.S. FBI is allowed a lot more spying on the private citizen in the U.S. than what is allowed to the government in Germany according to the Basic Law (constitution). Privacy issues are very big in Germany, but the U.S. government wants the same access to email, phone calls, etc, as they have in the States. The system is called Echelon. For the fist time ever journalists were let into the listening plant (center) on German ground. Echelon and privacy were part of the dissonances during Clinton's most recent visit to Berlin. JT Have you seen any tangible evidence of such widespread JT governmental snooping? To me, all this sounds like just another JT conspiracy theory. :-) Hope you don't mean that the news media are conspiring against the government ;-) They are, they havent got a clue whats really happening... what you read is the proverbial bone. You think the germans arent snooping? even the French are... - -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOXbiQM/5+ZpP4fP3EQJlmgCeL//bc2Y+J5gtHuD4WvPlTd7wl6UAoPMX nHwJyFZNVeWtKl1izRaISdUj =0K23 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[9]: no valid signing certificates! What's up?!?!
Hello phil,
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:34:03 -0700 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 6:34:03 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
phil wrote:
Is there ever going to be a way, to install a certificate without
having to install a web server or Microsoft Internet Explorer or some
other intrusive or utterly complex piece of software
rgdn i read in a previous post that you used Navigator ; what's wrong with that ??
rgdn was a piece of cake with Nav. 4.72 ...
It won{t log on the website.
t Same with Opera...
t I cannot even log on with IE...
t Just a question, do you use a firewall??? (g)
Yeah. I do. So what port[s] are /is they trying to get into?
To be honest I donot know, my system is set to kill anything which
isnt normal as I have been messing with hardware a lot and am just
back to have my permanent system since 6 hours ago.
I cannot get anywhere near that website, with any browser...
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Re[4]: Signature, Schmignature.
Hello phil, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:18:41 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 6:18:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, phil wrote: Aye Jason! On Thursday, July 20, 2000 at 03:49:05 GMT -0700 (which was 3:49 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: JT Hello Steve and Bat Buddies... JT snip JT This is all very interesting and thought-provoking speculation, Steve. JT But do you have any reason other than _speculation_ to believe all JT this? Have you seen any tangible evidence of such widespread JT governmental snooping? To me, all this sounds like just another JT conspiracy theory. :-) It isn't "theory" anymore. It's reality. http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/cybernews/cyber5_0717.html http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?sort=Scoreformat=Longmethod=Allconfig=restrict=exclude=words=carnivore It's called carnivore. It's already disrupted Earthlink.net Its old stuff already... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: no valid signing certificates! What's up?!?!
Hello Curtis, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:49:46 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 7:49:46 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Curtis wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:58:07 +0700, tracer wrote: t Just a question, do you use a firewall??? (g) You had to ask Phil that tracer??!!! vbg I could've answered that with certainty for you. ok, so could I... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Auto Save and S/MIME Sign when completed
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:57:20 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, July 20, 2000, 8:57:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Hi Christian, On 20 July 2000 at 08:21:40 GMT -0500 (which was 14:21 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of ""Auto Save" and S/MIME "Sign when completed"": MM [-] Save Draft AutoSave do not try sign/encrypt a message (1.45 MM Beta/9) MDP What is this thread about? Has this beta/11 fix not worked? CD I wasn't aware of Beta/11 when I posted my initial message. Yes, it CD works fine in Beta/11. Just as if the developers read my mind or CD something! :) Just my (not so) subtle way of calling a "dead horse" on the thread, which seemed to be meandering on despite no longer bearing any relationship to the realities involved ;-). we shouldnt have to expect 2 betas in one day (g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: an error occured while...
Hello Ming-Li, On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 08:55:08 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, July 16, 2000, 10:55:08 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Ming-Li wrote: Hi SyP, Whenever I delete an attachment from one of my folders, TB says: Error: An error occured while reading the message base [full path]. Do you want to repair the message base now? I say yes, and some seconds later TB deletes the attachment. It occurs every time with this folder. I don't have a clue what's wrong, but I would suggest first compress the folder to clean up deleted messages, and see if the problem goes away. If not, you may create another folder, move all messages from the problematic folder to the new one, and see how it goes. I would first backup that folder, Just in case after compression its more sick then before... If still unsolved, there might be some currupt message(s). Try to remember when this started, and move all messages before that date (or a few days earlier to be safe) to yet another new folder, and see if you can isolate it. Another method is to export all (recent) messages to a text file and examine it with an editor. Back to when I was using Outlook Express and Eudora, I was amazed to see garbage data crept into my mail from time to time. I've never seen this with TB, yet. But you might want to check it out. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Boo
Hello Nick Danger, On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:14:06 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 21, 2000, 2:14:06 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Danger wrote: In Reference to "Boo" From Steve Lamb: S Rats, I get booted for a few months and it all goes down the tubes. :) Welcome back Steve! I know I'm in the minority but I always enjoyed your insight and opinions, even with the sometimes rather edgy delivery. Then again, I have skin as thick as rhinocero's hide and am almost entirely incapable of getting my feelings or ego (if I have any) hurt. Sounds like you are in support (g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Alive?
Hello Syafril Hermansyah, On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:20:18 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 19, 2000, 11:20:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: Hello tracer, t On the other hand hitting the bystanders using often misused / abused t servers is a fairly practical way to force the servers involved to t improve their mail delivery system. t One may not like it as a victim but if it helps cutting down spam and t isolating servers used for it as they will loose legal users, it may t in the long run have a positiv effect. Ah yes you right, I forgot about the other useful side of this ORBS/RBL anti spam. I think for Public ListServer we don't need it much, but for corporate MailServer it will be help a much, even not 100% effective such case of "valid domain but not valid user". I saw several spammers nowadays using this trick, for instance he use e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] , the mailbox itself not valid, but domain is valid, and he/she is sending using domain.com's MTA ( in fact not Open Relay) using Dial Up Account. Any idea how to avoid this kind of spammers ? As far as I am concerned any server should enforce password / logon to its smtp and make it a combo smtp / pop mailsend operation. That should in all likelyhood keep spammers away. Obviously it cannot cope with remote dialing in and sending via a server far away like those run by www.myrealbox.com. On the other hands as ISP its easy as if the spammer is local you have his phonenumber he used to dialin so even if the name is fake, there shouldnt be any problem catching him. We caught ourselves an internet cafe here which had decided to cut costs and use other peoples accounts to dial in. Every time his phone gets loggedHe was stupid enough to try it on a friends account so we know who it is and where. Biggest problem will be to have the Thais admit they got one of those nonexisting internet problems and take action. Anyway, if they donot, the guy will likely not enjoy his stays on the internet... To run an internet cafe he needs to be on line and he has all those visitors with access to his systems(g). -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Empty Subject Reminder
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:37:13 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 19, 2000, 7:37:13 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello Thomas, TF Nice. Question: I can uncheck "always show this warning". If I uncheck TF it and later I change my mind, where do I re-enable (dis-disable) it? HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Empty Subject Warning registry key value should be set to 1... Stephan, seems something in options as it shouldnt be necessary to grab regedit to reset a thing like that... Ok, I will switch it off anyway (g) so it doesnt bother me that much but I dislike a requirement by normal users to touch regedit while a menu should be all that they need with less potential disastreous consequences... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Cookies...
Hello wie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:36:31 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, June 01, 2000, 11:36:31 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, wie wrote: @HOME, 01.06.2000 - 11:33 Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, Shalom! 31.05.2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP Suggestion: MDP Use a "subst" command in your autoexec.bat to map an MDP extra drive letter (say "K:") to the path containing MDP your extra / cookie files and set your templates to MDP refer to the substituted drive letter. That way you MDP only have to change the subst command when your drive MDP letter changes. [wie]: Thanks a lot Marck!,... I know about subst command,.. but never thing to use it with TB! Now I thought that subst had died a death acc to MS since windows 3.1 or 95 I forgot as I was on all those betas for ages... Does it still work? Thanks again... :-) Have a Nice Day 'n Big God Bless You! -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[8]: 1.44
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Mon, 29 May 2000 08:08:38 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Monday, May 29, 2000, 12:08:38 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello tracer, t But I donot agree having to go into the registry to change it. t There IS an administrators menu somewhere anyway, why not add this to t it? The problem is that a single "stupid" user on a single machine (i.e. without administrator) should not have easy access to this feature. The only thing I can think of is a secret key combination. But using .REG files seems to be more practical especially within large networks - you do not want to type those values in on each machine even using the nicest interface, do you? ;-) The problem is that I could do that over the network anyway but if you have administrators settings, normal users shouldnt be able to change them and also. what about the bulk of email users? They havent got a clue what they are doing and imagine they test the Bat as potential emailer and get these warnings and cannot get rid of them OR modify them. if I would set up the BAT as administrator they shouldnt be able to get to any settings even via the registry. If its their own system, they should have the right to deactivate things they donot like. if it means they get caught by a virus, their problem. If potential customers see those banners they may cost you lost sales... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.44
Hello Allie Martin, On Sun, 28 May 2000 11:02:50 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, May 28, 2000, 11:02:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: On Sun, 28 May 2000 08:42:58 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA I've checked my Registry, and all I can see is the following two entries: NA ProtectAllowOpen NA *.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG NA ProtectDisableOpen NA HAPPY99.EXE,LOVELETTER*.VBS Strange. I see the another entry there: ProtectWarnOpen : *.*,*.EXE,*.COM,*.BAT,*.CMD,*.VBS,*.JS,*.PL,*.BAS,*.JAVA,*.REG These are very straightforward entries for administrators to manipulate and it's location will definitely ward off the unwary which is the intention. I see no problem with it as is tracer ... :-) You would if you are an administrator and have more then one system... imagine the fun if someone writes a virus to just add *.msg to protection for the BAT. First special antibat virus created... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[5]: Delphi on Linux
Hello phil, On Fri, 26 May 2000 07:06:45 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Friday, May 26, 2000, 9:06:45 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, phil wrote: Aye SyP! On Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 22:31:25 GMT +0200 (which was 1:31 PM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: S Hello The Bat! beta users and developers, S MaXxX wrote on 5/25/2000, 10:30 PM M Hello tracer and all you Batters out there. Anyway, TB! would be nice on the Penguin. t A flying penguin (g) M SORRY FOR THE BINARY, GUYS! I JUST COULDN'T HELP MYSELF!! :D S Now how can I tell TB to use it as splash image? :) Try using "exescope." load the expanded bat and just find the main screen, highlight entry on the left, you see the Bat on the right. IMPORT the posted Linux bat save it off and you have a modified screen I just did it... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42f mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Group templates, etc.-- response from programming staff is needed.
Hello Stan Robins, On Sun, 7 May 2000 11:27:12 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, May 07, 2000, 11:27:12 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stan Robins wrote: Hi TBBETA, It seems to me that the programming staff of TB could solve the issue on the spot by answering these questions here in the list: seems to ME that by asking this way you essentially thell the users on this list not to bother to answer... I by far prefer them to work on V2 instead on answering questions which likely can be answered by the list... Is the address book contact group feature primarily for the purpose of grouping contact addresses for group-addressed messages as I contend, or is it primarily for the purpose of grouping templates for INDIVIDUALLY ADDRESSED messages as Allie Martin contends? How does one account for the behavior of TB when an address book contact belongs to more than one contact group? If the contact groups are NOT primarily for the purpose of grouping contact addresses for group-addressed messages, what is the preferred mechanism for this purpose? If the contact groups are NOT primarily for the purpose of grouping templates, what is the preferred mechanism for this purpose? (My answer: folder templates.) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: another problem with filtering II
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:37:14 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, April 27, 2000, 1:37:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] tracer, It varies a bit, I know (g) t having an ISP with many breakdowns, my great thanks for the delete t duplicate stuff in ALL folders. You are welcome! t Is there any way thoug that mails can be downloaded without having t to download old stuff again... Keep messages on the server for one day - this would help. We are going implement other way of downloading mail with subsequent deletion, but it will be a bit slower than it is now... maybe give uses a choice in preferences, efficient and fast or slower but no need to do it twice or more times if thrown out. I needed about 8 calls last night to get my mail.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/19 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting Accounts
Hello Quin Selman, On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:07:54 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, April 27, 2000, 4:07:54 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Quin Selman wrote: Hello TBUDL, I deleted three accounts today. After going to Accounts | Delete we get a little dialog asking if we'd like to leave the account files on the disk or do we want to delete them. With all three accounts I chose to delete the files and in all three cases The Bat! left the files on the disk. I don't know if this was true on versions prior to 1.42b19. Does anyone confirm? I happened to delete ONE account a few days ago as i forgot the password and it wasnt used anyway. All is gone Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Slang is language which takes off its coat, spits on its hands -- and goes to work." - Carl Sandburg --- Running The Bat!1.42 Beta/19 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/19 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: UTF encoding
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:06:07 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 24, 2000, 3:06:07 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hallo tracer, thanks for the HTML attachment in Thai, but it displayed as Chinese characters. I assume the reason is that there is no header in your message saying: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Since the last updates I see no utf-8 anywhere (unless I look in the wrong place) What I send shows Thai in the html, but the normal garbage in the text -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/19 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: 1.42 Beta/19 is now available
Hello SyP, On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:29:09 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, April 22, 2000, 2:29:09 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, SyP wrote: Hello The Bat! beta users and developers, Dirk Heiser wrote at 4/21/2000, 9:14 PM DH funny, if i click on the attachment i get an empty body. DH Perhaps some Windows Version related. I use Win95b I use WinNT. I think Win98+ and WinNT supports Unicode, older verions don't. I received an email from Germany from friends of my wife and it toold me to read with unicode but on clicking the various messages no problem reading it in the bat -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/19 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.42 Beta/18 is now available
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:53:26 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 10:53:26 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello All, The Bat! v1.42 Beta/18 is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html Changes: [-] Attachment flag detection was not working properly. My apologies to those who was detecting HTML messages that way - they are no longer marked as messages with attachments. ah, one can now select the group... Thank you for attention and collaboration! I always mean this, but now I want to say it loud :-) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/18 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: updated Beta/18
Hello Marek Mikus, On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:38:34 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 11:38:34 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marek Mikus wrote: Hello, Stefan uploaded updated beta/18 with repaired columns "Memo" and "Flagging". Displaying 2 fonts in titles of columns in Viewer was not repaired. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/18 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: A tip
Hello phil, On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:10:23 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, April 19, 2000, 1:10:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, phil wrote: Greetings Florian! On Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 20:00:51 GMT +0200 (which was 11:00 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: FE Hello, FE some of you complained that the downloaded ZIP files won't work. I FE experience that, too, although the file IS already uploaded. FE I use WebWasher 2.0.1 and Netscape 4.7. Netscape makes problems, the FE file is buggy. Using Opera: works. Maybe it's a Netscape-related FE problem? No . Stef re-uploaded the file this morning to catch a last minute bug. I just re-downloaded it and unzipped it and no problem. I use the latest beta winzip for unzipping. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/18 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
(OT) My system is dead
Hello For those who do communicate with me off list, sorry, my main system has died which makes me kind of happy as its likely the motherboard. After a few months of messing around it looks like I have to rebuild it back with my old board etc etc. With weekend coming I may not be on line for a few days to answer any mail. This is the box I was going to sell but it had no internet, no addressbooks and all that stuff and I donot really want to move things over just for sending mail. -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Beta/15
Hello Allie Martin, On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:53:49 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 4:53:49 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:17:51 +0100, Simon wrote: CS How about more information on windowBlinds ... :-) It does run with significant overhead. My taskmanager shows a resource consumption of 4.7MB at present. This however varies and increases with the more windows that you have opened. You may have a look in more detail at: http://www.windowblinds.net/ and have a look at the screen-shots of some other skins applied there as well. One was created for MacOS X by an external party and with Icon packager, another component, produced a virtual replica of the Mac OS X interface appearance. :) Apple threatened to sue so Stardock stopped displaying the screenshot and offering the skin for download at their website. NOTE ALLIE runs NT, now windows 2000. Anything regarding performans / problems maybe totally different under 98!! Thats what I used and eveen there my system would never be standard. One thing I agree with: it looks good. I think I got that Apple thing somewhere(g) so if anyone needs that and cannot find it, I can have a look around -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/12 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Getting some bad attachments sent
Hello Gary, On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:46:44 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, April 02, 2000, 5:46:44 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Gary wrote: Custom Today's thought for Alex: As easy as 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841. Dangerous thing to use, he may TRY giving you the other digits (g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/10 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report - can't type one of national characters
Hello Christopher J. Trybowski, On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:15:49 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 31, 2000, 10:15:49 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: Hello The Bat! developers and all, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.42 Beta/9 Serial Number 4FF098A9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Since beta9 (or 8 i'm not sure since, I didn't use it) I'm unable to type one polish character - ¯ (those who have unicode fonts installed will see capital Z with a dot). In other words Shift+RightAlt+Z combination doesn't do what it should do, and does in other applications. Any other Polish users confirm? Steps to reproduce the bug: Well, here you only need to press Shift+RightAlt+Z and notice that no character is inserted. But this may be different with other keyboard layouts. Going back to beta7 makes everything back in order. And pressing caps lock and then RightAlt+Z works well, so it seems a problem with keyboard handling. Regards, I hope the rest of your typing is easier then Shift+RightAlt+Z (g). I mean if I had to go to keystrokes like that, I wouldnt mind using .. Whats the name (g)... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/9 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.42 Beta/10 is now available
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:18:50 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 31, 2000, 11:18:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello All, 1.42 Beta/10 is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html do we get paid for all these betas (g)?? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/9 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/10 is now available
Hello Simon, On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:59:21 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 31, 2000, 11:59:21 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: Allie, how-do-you-do! On Friday, March 31, 2000, 5:00:26 PM, Allie wrote: AM On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:18:50 +0300, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: [+] "Navigation|Go to folder" command in the Folder View AM This is great. Isn't it nice when desired features get AM implemented Simon? :) Yippe ;)) It certainly is Ollie, I mean Allie ;) Shall go get some of it now. Do you still want v2?? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/9 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/10 is now available
Hello Simon, On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:07:42 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, April 01, 2000, 12:07:42 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: Allie, The 'wise arse reply' wasn't meant to be an insult btw. Just that I grew up watching Laurel Hardy films, and it rolled off the finger tips - still watch them on video as well -- big kid :D I like them and one guy ( a doctor) managed to get himself better of a cancer by just watching comics... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/9 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB2 (was: System Hot-Keys)
Hello SyP, On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:08:14 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, April 01, 2000, 1:08:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, SyP wrote: Hello The Bat! beta users and developers, Stefan Tanurkov wrote at 3/31/2000, 9:09 AM ST Well, I can release hotkeys when the dialogue is on the screen, but in ST version 2, there will be as less "modal" windows as possible, so all ST defined hot-keys will be working even when the hot-key defining ST dialogue will be active. Just get used to it now :-) Happy to hear that :) But, (on TB2) don't you think that while Delphi 5 Visual Components have interesting abilities, the actual programs compiled with it are a little bit... big and clumsy? Also Code Insight can get confused much easier than, say Delphi 3. Syp, we need a 3rd or 4th mailing list for that (g) Besides, ANYTHING in windows is big and clumsy, I just havent got a viable alternative!@! Bye: SyP -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/9 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: serious bug that will keep you awake for hours
Hello I just setup an account for a friend on MYNEWBOX.COM and 2 others are running ok. The new one insiste on sending any old mail already received. This is the first new acount I installed on my machine in ages so is there a chance the beta is doing it As far as I can see settings are the same as with the accounts which have no problems -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/8 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report // sound problem
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:14:54 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, March 23, 2000, 11:14:54 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Dear Roel, R if you have multiple soundcards, TB! can only use 1 sound-card to R play a sound when mail arrives... R it doesn't use the default windows-soundcard if that is changed to R the other card... You should direct this to M$ - we are simply using a standard API call... :-) If I remember you have to go into the volume controls and in there under advanced etc you can select what sound card is used. Or via control panel multimedia. Whatever is set is whatever is used and windows hasnt got a clue what a default soundcard is.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/6 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Outgoing filters and no received created date in B/5
Hello Simon, On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:05:33 + GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 5:05:33 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: A Chairde, I've just noticed that in TB! B/5 that all outgoing mail filtered to folders has the Date stripped from view from the 'received created' fields. It is in the kludge. Very small image attached as example. But I have that on ALL mail if the date is current... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Text Attachments
Hello Jerry Cook, On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:03 + GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 5:49:03 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jerry Cook wrote: Hello Listers I have a problem reading .txt attachments using TB 1.42/b5. When I receive an email with a .txt attachment TB appears to recognise that an attachment is present (The little attachment indicator is shown in the message list), but there is no file icon displayed to enable me to open/save the file. Other file types appear to attach OK. I noticed a thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments. Sending appears to be OK - I can send an attachment from TB to another mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them. Anyone else notice this since upgrading their message base. Best regards Jerry Cook mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have one DOC attachment not showing me anything... if someone wants to see it to see whats wrong... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: 1.42 Beta/4 is available
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:26:04 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, March 21, 2000, 3:26:04 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Hello tracer, It's a joke or a insolence this betas 1..2.. 3.. 4, I'm not sure... I'm anxious for version 2... t You need SOMETHING to test, so they likely try to clean up existing t bugs for the final v1... Not only this. This new message base engine will be used in version 2 too, so it is actually a step towards version 2. From my point of view, it is better to start debugging the most important part of the program before the interface part will be ready for testing. I hope my colleagues agree with me. :-) agreed and anyway, you better get that base converted now so that v1 and v2 at least use the same one...Bug free!! -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/4 is available
Hello Simon, On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:32:55 + GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, March 21, 2000, 7:32:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: Didn't follow my own procedures :-] -- me. Tut tut! I know how you feel but then it happens to everybody... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/4 is available
Hello Michael Wieczorek, On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:07:50 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, March 21, 2000, 5:07:50 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Michael Wieczorek wrote: It's a joke or a insolence this betas 1..2.. 3.. 4, I'm not sure... I'm anxious for version 2... You need SOMETHING to test, so they likely try to clean up existing bugs for the final v1... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Large message arrived to your address
Hello Christopher J. Trybowski, On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:24:40 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 18, 2000, 4:24:40 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: Hello Thomas, On Friday, March 17, 2000 you wrote: Do you know how Eudora handles this?: There is an option saying "receive only the first xxx KB". Whenever a message is bigger than that, it will be cut off at that length, but it will have an extra icon "download complete message from server". This will then be done at the next connect. I like the eudora option to just download the headers after which you can (off-line) specify what you want to do with it during the next download -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: +Wine+Linux
Hello phil, On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:24:14 -0800 (PST) GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 12:24:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, phil wrote: Greetings, I have been trying to get thebat to run under wine in linux, people on this ML (TBBETA) have told me it *can* be done. I have searched many different places on the net, like: redhat.com, linux.org, linuxnewbie.org, MAN wine, and I haven't figured out why it won't work. It was posted here so a search of the website archive should tell you. I cleaned my files out when I reinstalled 98 a month or so ago... HOWEVER... Since this may possibly be because of the ASPack Compression/ Scrambling, my next logical question (if nobody knows how to get thebat working in linux under wine) is how can I SHARE my /mnt/DOS_hda7/mail/ *.* (thebat's mail folders in 9x/NT) with linux? have you tried unpacking the Bat? I havent tried the last versions but in the past Procdump would do a decent decoding... As said it was decribed but I cleaned out both my Linux mail folders where I am on a development list and the Bats as both create sometimes a lot of info... And what Application in linux would you suggest to try to import/export the mail folders, and still be compatible, without corrupting anything? presumably an export to Linux mail folders should do the trick. I normally mount my drives I want to share as 'auto' under Linux so I get the long filenames under Linux. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Editor Preferences ?
Hello Christopher J. Trybowski, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:56:08 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 2:56:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: Christopher Hello tracer, Christopher On Sunday, January 23, 2000 you wrote: Agreed(g), am sending you an email... I think problem is that you look at what you can do in person, and donot look at number of hours... Agreed, I wouldnt either on my system. But if you have to charge them per hour... Anyway agreed, copy would keep most, I always do that but there again most customers havent got the disk space. Ghost is even better as with ghost explorer you can put things back. And in my own case any important directory is rarred. Permanently. I think we quite agree what can be done But if they pay per hour work (relatively flexible..) then problem becomes a bit different -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Crash,...
Hello Leif Gregory, On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:27:29 +0900 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 7:27:29 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Leif Gregory wrote: Leif A BAD dayTransfer completed...573KB 11cps Sometimes thats what I get but launching multiple tasks can help -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Editor Preferences ?
Hello Christopher J. Trybowski, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:56:08 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 2:56:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: Christopher Well, the truth is, that it's enough to rename win.com to something Christopher else, also rename Program Files and %windir%, and you can install new, Christopher clean version. Then you can browse old windows direcotry looking for Christopher everything you might need... That's how I do this. You donot even have to rename anything, just copy to other drive and switch it off (bios, no power cable..) Christopher I'm considering another way of doing this, like compressing %windir% Christopher using jar, rar, zip or whatever... This should work to, for simkple Christopher copying files across drives *does* do the trick (checked :)). simple copying doesnt always work, but under 98 you have a lot more chance then under 95. I wouldnt use zip, it corrupts with big archives and no idea if thats fixed. I never got a warning but with many files, it looked ok but was unexpandable, RAR never gave me that problem, neither did ARJ. Anyway copying will work on MY system but most customers havent got the space. So normally I ghost their c-drive...to one of my hard disks. Copying ONLY works if you just booted and havent run anything as once certain system files have been loaded, forget copy. On the other hand zip/rar work but take ages to run. I prefer Ghost.. Christopher OKOK, now this will be EOT (.perhaps :-)) ;-) Its all a matter of circumstances, paying customer, a friend, yourself, data being important etc etc. Donot forget that here like in your place, cd's with all kind of software float around so likely all a customer needs is on some cd he has. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Crash,...
Hello Martyn Drake, On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:46:34 + GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 10:46:34 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Martyn Drake wrote: Martyn On 25 January 2000, Leif Gregory wrote:- Well, I tried opening all sorts of applications during the TB splash screen and couldn't get it to crash. Maybe it's a memory thing. Martyn I can confirm crashing when opening another application with The Bat! Martyn I'm running Windows 98 along with 192Mb RAM and it usually crashes Martyn whenever I'm opening Internet Explorer 5.01 and The Bat! Martyn simultaneously. In that case you likely have a leaking ie5. Shut down all the boot startup 98 applications and reactivate them one by one.. Martyn Regards, Martyn Martyn -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: Crash,...
Hello MaXxX, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 06:54:53 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, January 24, 2000, 12:54:53 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, MaXxX wrote: MaXxX Hello Kostik, MaXxX Monday, January 24, 2000, 1:19:20 AM, you wrote: W TB! 1.39 still crash when other proggie opened at the same W time. :-( K CONFIRM! MaXxX Sometimes, indeed. Often, even. Never on my system.. And I use dialer 2000 to start manykick many things off at the same time. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Gamma testing (was: Re: Test-Message)
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:48:58 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 6:48:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Stefan Hello tracer, that means gamma is after beta: t In the alphabet, yes, I just never heard it being used before in t software development.. Stefan But I did :-) This is the right guess. Ok, so whats the CURRENT status, pre-alpha??? Stefan Gamma = pre-release. This usually mean that all (or most) known bugs Stefan are eliminated, but the version should be tested for some more time Stefan before the official release. maybe we never hear of it normally as MS skips that stage (g). Anyway, I like to see what the others say, just in case you have a different way of naming it then anywhere else.. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: S/N OFFICIAL 1.39
Hello Roel, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:50:03 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:50:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Roel wrote: Roel we got notice that 1.39 official was out (on the tbudl), so i downed Roel it from the rit-site... did they update the whole archive?? Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mail indicator
Hello Wallner 'Waces' Tamas, On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:20:22 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, January 08, 2000, 2:20:22 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Wallner 'Waces' Tamas wrote: Wallner Hello all, Wallner I'd like to know that the new version of TheBat! (maybe 2.0 :) ) will Wallner contains a usefull mail indicator? For example like in the Office or Wallner the Eudora. You know just a small icon in the taskbar (a little bat or Wallner something :) ). have you seen that flying bat in the bar: it means you got mail... Wallner Cheers, Wallner Waces mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
