Re[3]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, I have 2 messages created with TB (messages I sent) simply stall the TB's backup procedure for every TB! released since version 3.51.8 (or 3.51.10). At least 3.51.8 was the last version where I was able to do a full backup of my message base without issues. the thread (where I complaint mostly solo) is under the subject Maintenance Centre Bug? and here is a mid: for the last message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK I can confirm that the backup stalls when store external ASK attachments in message body is selected. ASK I can back up just fine with 3.51.10, but 3.60.07 and 3.61.07 ASK hang after only 6 percent. Everytime at the same point, in the ASK same folder. Its a pity we don't have a detailed backup log for ASK debugging purposes, therefore I haven't yet looked for any single ASK specific message that make the backup hang (and I certainly don't ASK intend to do that if its not absolutely neccessary, since that ASK folder contains 700 messages). Thanks for your confirmation. We're three now... anyone else? I will test it and bug down for the specific mail, if I observe it. Promise :)) -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I may try to export and import them into my laptop installation. I'll let you know about the results. What do you suggest if those messages are backuped correctly? I'm V I guess, he meant it literally. You're guessing... asking this because I'm not the only one to have this problems, another user is experiencing the same. V Two experience it, many not... You must be under great stress lately. I didn't mention MANY, I said I'm not the ONLY one having the problem and ANOTHER user is experiencing the same which I presume, with my little knowledge of this foreign dialect, means just that, me and a second person - two persons. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Graveyards are full of the indispensable. Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07
Hi Eugene, On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, at 09:23:09 [GMT +0400] (which was 07:23 where I live) you wrote about: 'Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07' This is the old known bug, see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5075. I think it lies deep inside The Bat!'s sources and I doubt it's going to be fixed, just like faulty operation with the MS Exchange server via MAPI (Maxim Masiutin knows what I'm talking about) or the incorrect encoding translation of LDAP search results (bugtrack id #4945). Thanks for the confirmation. But I don't think it is a very old bug. Everything works fine in 3.60.02. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07
Robert, This is the old known bug, see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5075. RvdH Thanks for the confirmation. RvdH But I don't think it is a very old bug. Everything works RvdH fine in 3.60.02. Can't test 3.60.02 but even 2.02.3 CE had this bug. That was in the year 2003. -- Eugene Gladchenko EVG15-RIPE Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, asking this because I'm not the only one to have this problems, another user is experiencing the same. V Two experience it, many not... You must be under great stress lately. Maybe, but... I didn't mention MANY, I said I'm not the ONLY one having the problem and ANOTHER user is experiencing the same which I presume, with my little knowledge of this foreign dialect, means just that, me and a second person - two persons. ... you should read again what I wrote: Two (people) experience it (the bug), many not (does not experience the bug)... And you repeat this now. So, what is the problem? Maybe I just go ahead and activate that kill filter. If I hurt your feeling, I already apologized. If you cant deal with the situation, then... ok, I dont finish the sentence. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else, on 24-Sep-2005 at 10:31 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: I have 2 messages created with TB (messages I sent) simply stall the TB's backup procedure for every TB! released since version 3.51.8 (or 3.51.10). At least 3.51.8 was the last version where I was able to do a full backup of my message base without issues. the thread (where I complaint mostly solo) is under the subject Maintenance Centre Bug? and here is a mid: for the last message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can confirm that the backup stalls when store external attachments in message body is selected. I can back up just fine with 3.51.10, but 3.60.07 and 3.61.07 hang after only 6 percent. Everytime at the same point, in the same folder. Its a pity we don't have a detailed backup log for debugging purposes, therefore I haven't yet looked for any single specific message that make the backup hang (and I certainly don't intend to do that if its not absolutely neccessary, since that folder contains 700 messages). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) In all the cosmos, there is naught but straight flying, bumping, caroming, and again straight flying. Phenomena are are but lumps, jumps, and bumps. A mass unit's career is but lumping, bumping, rejumping, rebumping, and finally, unlumping. -- George Francis Gillette Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 27-Sep-2005 at 18:31 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: I can confirm that the backup stalls when store external attachments in message body is selected. PS: I don't store attachments externally, anyway, so this option shouldn't make any difference on my system - but it does. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hi Alexander, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ASK Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else, ASK on 24-Sep-2005 at 10:31 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: I have 2 messages created with TB (messages I sent) simply stall the TB's backup procedure for every TB! released since version 3.51.8 (or 3.51.10). At least 3.51.8 was the last version where I was able to do a full backup of my message base without issues. the thread (where I complaint mostly solo) is under the subject Maintenance Centre Bug? and here is a mid: for the last message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK I can confirm that the backup stalls when store external ASK attachments in message body is selected. ASK I can back up just fine with 3.51.10, but 3.60.07 and 3.61.07 ASK hang after only 6 percent. Everytime at the same point, in the ASK same folder. Its a pity we don't have a detailed backup log for ASK debugging purposes, therefore I haven't yet looked for any single ASK specific message that make the backup hang (and I certainly don't ASK intend to do that if its not absolutely neccessary, since that ASK folder contains 700 messages). Thanks for your confirmation. We're three now... anyone else? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I used to be normal, then I got my computer... Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07
Group, I have the following problem: I am using a mailserver that forwards newsgroup messages to a pop3 mailbox. Lately I have discovered that Thebat corrupts attachments that are part of the newsgroup message. The original attachment are encoded like this in the news message: begin 666 grafx03.xls MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M`0``$ [EMAIL PROTECTED] M . . . M : ` end TB converts this to an other encoding format. The message inside TB has the following encoding: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0D1B7 . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0D1B7 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=grafx03.xls Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAABAQAA EgEAAAD+AAD/ If I download the message with 3.60.02 and save the attachment in 3.60.02 the attachment is fine. When I download the message with 3.61.07 and save the attachment in 3.61.07 the attachment is corrupted. The problem is not the actual saving of the message but the conversion from the encoding format. Has anyone else seen this ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07
Hi Robert, On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, at 09:03:39 [GMT +0200] (which was 09:03 where I live) you wrote about: 'Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07' I have the following problem: I am using a mailserver that forwards newsgroup messages to a pop3 mailbox. Lately I have discovered that Thebat corrupts attachments that are part of the newsgroup message. The original attachment are encoded like this in the news message: I see that the encoding is suppressed in TheBat. I have reported this in BT under the id 5144 with attachments showing the source of an example message. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hi Goncalo, GF I'm still awaiting for an answer from Maxim, since I sent him the GF offending messages. Hmm, I've tested your messages and they are backuped normally, so... Could you send them to anybody else for testing? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: 3.61.07
Hello Volodymyr, If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... 3.61.05 - all OK. V More details, please. At me, Ctrl+Tab just working fine... Working for Messages List Tabs only! But for message attach is not! I dont know, it works for me... In preview mode and in full window mode, also. I press the Ctrl+Tab and I can see the mail body, the attach after that, etc. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello 9Val, GF I'm still awaiting for an answer from Maxim, since I sent him the GF offending messages. Hmm, I've tested your messages and they are backuped normally, so... Could you send them to anybody else for testing? In our dreams : We asked him, and we got this answer... It is his decision. Our secretary at work has this signature: You decide: solve the problem or play the blame game... Goncalo will decide what he will do. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Vili, Sunday, September 25, 2005, 4:13:53 PM, you wrote: Just in case, try the newest FP 5.45. No difference in behavior. Still can't print from Message View. So, you print from the search window, and you got an AV? Yes, that has been happening for sometime. Now that behavior exists in the Message View also. AV from Normal/Preview and Message View started in 3.61.06. AV in Normal/Preview corrected in 3.61.07. Neither happens in 3.61.05. Is it POP or IMAP account? POP. Are they unicode mails? Not that I know of. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[7]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, Sunday, September 25, 2005, 4:13:53 PM, you wrote: Just in case, try the newest FP 5.45. No difference in behavior. Still can't print from Message View. So, you print from the search window, and you got an AV? Yes, that has been happening for sometime. Now that behavior exists in the Message View also. AV from Normal/Preview and Message View started in 3.61.06. AV in Normal/Preview corrected in 3.61.07. Neither happens in 3.61.05. Is it POP or IMAP account? POP. Are they unicode mails? Not that I know of. So, just to clear: you have the AV after you click on print and BEFORE the printer selection window would come up, right? So, you dont see the printer selection window, right? Or it happens AFTER you selected the printer? Could you select a mail that gives you AV? Or all of them give you AV? If just some, please export as Unix mailbox and send me in private. I tried 3 PCs with TB!, no problem with FP... Not at all :(( Or :)) Try to uninstall and reinstall FP. Or if you put TB .05 back, it does not give you any AV? -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[8]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Vili, Monday, September 26, 2005, 11:08:47 AM, you wrote: So, just to clear: you have the AV after you click on print and BEFORE the printer selection window would come up, right? So, you dont see the printer selection window, right? Or it happens AFTER you selected the printer? I see a printer selection window. If I select anything other than the default FinePrint, I get no error and I get printer output. If I leave it set at FinePrint or move to FinePrint after output to another printer, I get an AV. Could you select a mail that gives you AV? Or all of them give you AV? All give me an AV. Try to uninstall and reinstall FP. Uninstalled. Removed all settings too. Reinstalled. Same problem. Or if you put TB .05 back, it does not give you any AV? Now .05 is performing the same way as .07 -- AVs when printing from message view. Went back to v3.60.05 and getting AVs when printing from message view. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[9]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, Monday, September 26, 2005, 11:08:47 AM, you wrote: So, just to clear: you have the AV after you click on print and BEFORE the printer selection window would come up, right? So, you dont see the printer selection window, right? Or it happens AFTER you selected the printer? I see a printer selection window. If I select anything other than the default FinePrint, I get no error and I get printer output. If I leave it set at FinePrint or move to FinePrint after output to another printer, I get an AV. :((( I dont see this... Could you select a mail that gives you AV? Or all of them give you AV? All give me an AV. Try to uninstall and reinstall FP. Uninstalled. Removed all settings too. Reinstalled. Same problem. Or if you put TB .05 back, it does not give you any AV? Now .05 is performing the same way as .07 -- AVs when printing from message view. Went back to v3.60.05 and getting AVs when printing from message view. Message view: you mean when you open the mail in a separate window, right? What happens if you change the printer where the FP pages will be printed to (right click on the FP printer, Printing references..., Preview tab, down and left: Printer. Set an other printer here. Results? -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[10]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Vili, Monday, September 26, 2005, 1:17:57 PM, you wrote: V Message view: you mean when you open the mail in a separate window, V right? Correct. V What happens if you change the printer where the FP pages will be V printed to (right click on the FP printer, Printing references..., V Preview tab, down and left: Printer. Set an other printer here. V Results? An AV! Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[11]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, Monday, September 26, 2005, 1:17:57 PM, you wrote: V Message view: you mean when you open the mail in a separate window, V right? Correct. V What happens if you change the printer where the FP pages will be V printed to (right click on the FP printer, Printing references..., V Preview tab, down and left: Printer. Set an other printer here. V Results? An AV! Send me the screenshot of that AV in private, please. -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: AV on Printing in 3.61.07)
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:59:57 -0400GMT (26-9-2005, 19:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V Results? RNAn AV! RN Best regards, RN Richard Newman RN --- RN Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Richard. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Fate: Protects fools, little children, and echo moderators. pgpTL7PoOTooU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 9 Hi Goncalo, GF I'm still awaiting for an answer from Maxim, since I sent him the GF offending messages. 9 Hmm, I've tested your messages and they are backuped normally, 9 so... Could you send them to anybody else for testing? I may try to export and import them into my laptop installation. I'll let you know about the results. What do you suggest if those messages are backuped correctly? I'm asking this because I'm not the only one to have this problems, another user is experiencing the same. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Sorry, computer foul--up! Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : In your dreams! :) V New Kill filter, if Sender: Goncalo, active. Case closed. You should try a SPA. I'm feeling tension in your emails... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias 911, If you are reporting a murder, press 1. If your rep Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 9 Hi Goncalo, GF I'm still awaiting for an answer from Maxim, since I sent him the GF offending messages. 9 Hmm, I've tested your messages and they are backuped normally, so... 9 Could you send them to anybody else for testing? PS: Not all backup settings stall the backup procedure with those messages. I've experience this problems with the settings shown in the attachment. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Hard hat area!attachment: backup_settings.JPG Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, 9 Hmm, I've tested your messages and they are backuped normally, 9 so... Could you send them to anybody else for testing? I may try to export and import them into my laptop installation. I'll let you know about the results. What do you suggest if those messages are backuped correctly? I'm I guess, he meant it literally. asking this because I'm not the only one to have this problems, another user is experiencing the same. Two experience it, many not... -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[7]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, In your dreams! :) V New Kill filter, if Sender: Goncalo, active. Case closed. You should try a SPA. I'm feeling tension in your emails... :)) Taken. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Corrupted attachments in 3.61.07
Robert, I have discovered that Thebat corrupts attachments that are part of the newsgroup message. The original attachment are encoded like this in the news message: RvdH I have reported this in BT under the id 5144 with attachments RvdH showing the source of an example message. This is the old known bug, see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5075. I think it lies deep inside The Bat!'s sources and I doubt it's going to be fixed, just like faulty operation with the MS Exchange server via MAPI (Maxim Masiutin knows what I'm talking about) or the incorrect encoding translation of LDAP search results (bugtrack id #4945). -- Eugene Gladchenko EVG15-RIPE Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
CTRL-Tab changed but functioning (was: Re: 3.61.07)
Hello List! Hi Volodymyr V. Shvets, on 23.09.2005 at 20:10 [UTC +0200] you wrote: If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... I tried all possible combinations :) Here it is: [CTRL][ALT][TAB] But you must specify the current focused pane. [CTRL][TAB] still does its work if the focus is on message pane. And [CTRL][ALT][TAB] works if you are in the message list window. -- Regards, Stefan TheBat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) with Windows XP v5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, V If you want, send me the TBB and TBI files ZIPped in private, V describe the problem, and if I can reproduce your problem, I V promise, I will push this thing too. My intention is as yours: V kill the bugs. If it is there... In your dreams! :) New Kill filter, if Sender: Goncalo, active. Case closed. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, Friday, September 23, 2005, 4:06:57 PM, you wrote: Tell me more about it! Which version of FP you have? FinePrint 5.41. I have never had any other problem with FinePrint with any other software. If I go back to 3.61.05 . . . my only printing problem happens printing the opened results of searches. Just in case, try the newest FP 5.45. So, you print from the search window, and you got an AV? Is it POP or IMAP account? Are they unicode mails? -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.61.07
Hello! If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... 3.61.05 - all OK. V More details, please. At me, Ctrl+Tab just working fine... Working for Messages List Tabs only! But for message attach is not! -- Best regards, Volodymyr V. Shvets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:23:04, Monday, September 26, 2005 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
It very annoying to see everybody talking about AV in printing, high memory consumption, etc and neglecting something I've been complaining about for 3 or 4 beta released. I have 2 messages created with TB (messages I sent) simply stall the TB's backup procedure for every TB! released since version 3.51.8 (or 3.51.10). At least 3.51.8 was the last version where I was able to do a full backup of my message base without issues. the thread (where I complaint mostly solo) is under the subject Maintenance Centre Bug? and here is a mid: for the last message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope people at RIT fix this. I already sent Maxim the offending messages but still no news at all. bah! In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF Hi, GF In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello All, MM 3.61.07 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar MM [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability MM [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change MM [-] AV on printing MM [-] Filters: 'Export message' action sometimes generated invalid filenames using macros MM [-] (#0005126) Checkboxes ate Enter key. MM [-] Old versions of The Bat! didn't work with new THEBAT.LNG files. MM [-] Tabs: tabs multiplication MM [-] (#0005138) options - message format submenu disappears GF [...] GF the new beta still has the flaw described in GF mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] that started with the GF 3.60 series. GF To avoid being repetitive, here some screenshots... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If they can send a man to the moon...why not send 'em all Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hallo Goncalo, On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:31:00 +0100GMT (24-9-2005, 10:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GF It very annoying to see everybody talking about AV in printing, high GF memory consumption, etc and neglecting something I've been complaining GF about for 3 or 4 beta released. That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. moderator on Apart from that, we've got this rule against top posting, even to your own messages. moderator off -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp8H0q9Zi42l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
CTRL-Tab (was: Re: 3.61.07)
Hello Volodymyr, Stay on message. If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... Confirmed. Normally you could flick through the attachments with CTRL-Tab. Now CTRL-Tab does nothing or, when selected a message in the message list, changes between Message List Tabs. -- Regards, Andreas Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RO Hallo Goncalo, RO On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:31:00 +0100GMT (24-9-2005, 10:31 +0200, RO where I live), you wrote: GF It very annoying to see everybody talking about AV in printing, GF high memory consumption, etc and neglecting something I've been GF complaining about for 3 or 4 beta released. RO That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. Well, that doesn't mean the bug is not there, does it? And I see people interested in things less important. RO moderator on RO Apart from that, we've got this rule against top posting, even to RO your own messages. RO moderator off Didn't quite understand what you mean... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Tagline Stupidity Gage 0% |||||_x|100% Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Hello Henk, Saturday, September 24, 2005, 4:28:32 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, at 18:19:46 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:19 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: 3.61.07 is available During making a backup, there is a menu showing the progress. It is not possible to read the line(s) what the bat! is backing up. Confirmed. I also mentioned it in another thread (I missed seeing it here). -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: 3.61.07
Hi Vili, Am Friday, September 23, 2005, 11:32:05 PM, schriebst du: Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? It has not stopped working, it just seems to work intermittently. I don't see any real pattern. Also have pauses when selecting IMAP accounts, sometimes, that freeze the machine completely. I suspect there must be something when Maxim or 9Val compiles TB!... For me TheBat! behaves this way since v3.60.x. Filters work for several hours and then stop suddenly. What I noticed on 3.61.07: IMAP-tasks hang more often. At this moment my connectioncenter has always two or more hanging tasks and if I delete them it works for 3 to 5 queued jobs - then it stops again. Michael -- Nbg, 24.09.2005, 13:11 TheBat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Viele Leute lernen ausschließlich aus eigenen Fehlern, manche nicht einmal aus diesen. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgptCX2KnNea9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo Farias, RO That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. Well, that doesn't mean the bug is not there, does it? Not necessarily, it can be a local thing not really related to TB, but merely surfacing there. And I see people interested in things less important. Importance is, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder. RO moderator on RO Apart from that, we've got this rule against top posting, even to RO your own messages. RO moderator off Didn't quite understand what you mean... Top posting is replying to a message and inserting your own text on top of the quoted text. -- Groetjes, Roelof via webmail, so I hope my cutmark is ok Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: 3.61.07
Hello Michael, A reminder of what Michael Schneider typed on: Saturday, September 24, 2005 at 13:16:22 GMT +0200 MS For me TheBat! behaves this way since v3.60.x. Filters work for several MS hours and then stop suddenly. MS What I noticed on 3.61.07: MS IMAP-tasks hang more often. At this moment my connectioncenter has MS always two or more hanging tasks and if I delete them it works for 3 to 5 MS queued jobs - then it stops again. As Clive mentioned earlier things seemed to work OK with 3.60.1. I think some testing is in order. I see the same as above when it comes to IMAP in the latest versions. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
On 2005-09-24 (11:01), you wrote: That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. You are wrong. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Vili, Friday, September 23, 2005, 4:06:57 PM, you wrote: Tell me more about it! Which version of FP you have? FinePrint 5.41. I have never had any other problem with FinePrint with any other software. If I go back to 3.61.05 . . . my only printing problem happens printing the opened results of searches. I can print results of searches, etc to FP. That is my default, also... That's strange. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Mary, Friday, September 23, 2005, 9:21:12 PM, you wrote: I think it does. I think you should add a BT note to your issue report at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5133 and put this information in. Shall do. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hi Roelof, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RO That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. Well, that doesn't mean the bug is not there, does it? RO Not necessarily, it can be a local thing not really related to TB, RO but merely surfacing there. How do you explain that TB 3.51.08 works fine but since 3.60.01 I'm unable to perform a backup? The system is the same (and it's stable) only TB version is different and I was able to narrow it down to 2 specific messages also created by TB. I'm still awaiting for an answer from Maxim, since I sent him the offending messages. And I see people interested in things less important. RO Importance is, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder. True, not going to argue. RO moderator on RO Apart from that, we've got this rule against top posting, even to RO your own messages. RO moderator off Didn't quite understand what you mean... RO Top posting is replying to a message and inserting your own text RO on top of the quoted text. Ah, well, since I changed the subject, it was my conviction that the appended text would be merely informative of what I was mentioning. I normally reply between quoted setences. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Windows, the EDSEL of operating systems! Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hi Krzysztof, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : KK On 2005-09-24 (11:01), you wrote: That's because nobody can reproduce it, except for you. KK You are wrong. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KK Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik Try to narrow it down to messages with attachments. To find the offending messages I created a folder named NOK and OK. I moved ALL my messages with attachments to the NOK folder (which must backup before OK). Then I moved batchs of messages sorted by date to the OK folder until the NOK folder would pass in the backup routine but OK wouldn't. That wil narrow the offending message to a small group and you'll be able to determine which one is. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias All I need is some peace Quiet. If I got a piece I'd be Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Goncalo, Well, that doesn't mean the bug is not there, does it? And I see people interested in things less important. Other people maybe too polite, my opinion is that you are selfish when you say it. AV at printing was REPRODUCIBLE, memory consumption is REPRODUCIBLE. If you want, send me the TBB and TBI files ZIPped in private, describe the problem, and if I can reproduce your problem, I promise, I will push this thing too. My intention is as yours: kill the bugs. If it is there... -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
On 2005-09-24 (16:50), you wrote: That wil narrow the offending message to a small group and you'll be able to determine which one is. Gonacalo :) I did it all the same way, as you. My conclusion is coherent with yours. Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hi Villi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : V Hello Goncalo, Well, that doesn't mean the bug is not there, does it? And I see people interested in things less important. V Other people maybe too polite, my opinion is that you are selfish No comments. V when you say it. AV at printing was REPRODUCIBLE, memory V consumption is REPRODUCIBLE. Memory consumption, if not due to leaks is not a bug but a feature. And this problem that I'm experiencing is reproducible, at least another user is experiencing the same issue. I think that issues with the backup mechanism provided by TB should be of most concern for ALL TB users, experiencing or not the described error. V If you want, send me the TBB and TBI files ZIPped in private, V describe the problem, and if I can reproduce your problem, I V promise, I will push this thing too. My intention is as yours: kill V the bugs. If it is there... In your dreams! :) I've sent the offending mails to Maxim. At most, I'll treat my issues with the developers if they care to solve this bug. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Irony: God gave the tortoise a drag factor of .03 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
On Friday, September 23, 2005 @ 7:19:28 PM [-0700], Matt Thoene wrote: 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? Forgot to mention that the log DOES show that something is being filtered, it just doesn't get moved from the INBOX to the filtered to folder. Just reverted back to 3.61.01 and filtering on IMAP accounts works again perfectly. -- Matt Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.61.07
Hello All, 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change [-] AV on printing [-] Filters: 'Export message' action sometimes generated invalid filenames using macros [-] (#0005126) Checkboxes ate Enter key. [-] Old versions of The Bat! didn't work with new THEBAT.LNG files. [-] Tabs: tabs multiplication [-] (#0005138) options - message format submenu disappears -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Maxim, Running well here. Hello All, 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change [-] AV on printing [-] Filters: 'Export message' action sometimes generated invalid filenames using macros [-] (#0005126) Checkboxes ate Enter key. [-] Old versions of The Bat! didn't work with new THEBAT.LNG files. [-] Tabs: tabs multiplication [-] (#0005138) options - message format submenu disappears -- Gleason Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Primarily using the Fastmail IMAP server which uses Cyrus. Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Hello Maxim, 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar I will check the features, one question: the size of the EXE was ca. 10.5 MB at v.05. v.06 was 11.5 MB. Now we back to 10.4 MB. Could you explain this? -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.61.07 - Standard Toolbar customisation problem persists
Unfortunately the problem that I mentioned in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] continues here. I cannot customise the standard toolbar. I can make customisation entries, but they are not displayed on the toolbar. Very frustrating... :( -- Best Regards, Costas Papadopoulos Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Could you explain this? At a guess I'd say they've taken out some debug. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. The problem with asking other people for their opinions is that they frequently give them! pgpLiD3dG9oFJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Hello Maxim! On Friday, September 23, 2005, 10:19 AM, you wrote: 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar Up and running, so far no problems. [-] AV on printing Confirm fixed. Thanks a bunch!! :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07, Message list tab problems
Hello Maxim, [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability I see the new buttons instead of the toolbar on the Options, Preferences, Tabs pane, BUT: 1. Right click on the tabs on the main screen: Delete or Close. What is the difference between the two? None of them delete the item... Choosing one of them makes the tab disappear, but they are not really deleted, just unchecked. See the popup menu, so the fuction of Delete/Close could have been done by just unchecking any item in the popup menu... I suggest that simply take that two items (Delete/Close) out from that local menu... Deletion a tab can be done from Options, Preferences. Somebody misclick in this local menu and will be mad... He can uncheck any item here, if he wants, but should not be able to delete anything permanently. But this is just IMHO... 2. Options, Preferences, Tabs pane: if you have an Unread fast search tab there, it is impossible to delete that. Any other tab can be deleted. This particular one cannot. If you hit Delete on it, it disappears. But when you quit this window and go back, it still there, unchecked. [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change It is done, working fine. [-] AV on printing Confirmed fixed. -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Maxim, Friday, September 23, 2005, 11:19:46 AM, you wrote: [-] AV on printing Still getting AVs in message view mode but not when viewing message on master menu. I am able to sometimes print once from message view and on printing it leaves message view and returns to master view. I don't remember such prior behavior. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Hello! MM [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability MM [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change MM [-] AV on printing MM [-] Filters: 'Export message' action sometimes generated invalid filenames using macros MM [-] (#0005126) Checkboxes ate Enter key. MM [-] Old versions of The Bat! didn't work with new THEBAT.LNG files. MM [-] Tabs: tabs multiplication MM [-] (#0005138) options - message format submenu disappears Stay on message. If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... 3.61.05 - all OK. -- Best regards, Volodymyr V. Shvets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20:04:25, Friday, September 23, 2005 36107.GIF Description: GIF image Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard! On Friday, September 23, 2005, 12:01 PM, you wrote: [-] AV on printing Still getting AVs in message view mode but not when viewing message on master menu. I am able to sometimes print once from message view and on printing it leaves message view and returns to master view. I don't remember such prior behavior. I am not sure that I understand your terminology: message view mode and master view and master menu. Is message view mode a View Mode that you have set up? I thought perhaps you meant the Preview Pane, which is enabled from The Bat!/View/Message auto-view setting. So I enabled that (it's not my preference; I normally use View Folder as my window) and I printed just fine from it. Also, as I reported to Maxim, I can print okay from the View Folder window. If you'll tell me further what you mean by message view mode and master view I will try to test and confirm. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Mary, Friday, September 23, 2005, 1:26:31 PM, you wrote: I am not sure that I understand your terminology: message view mode and master view and master menu. By master view and/or master menu, I meant what you are properly referring to as the Preview Pane. By message view mode, I meant the view folder that opens up when you double click on a message. I can print your message to me fine from the Preview Pane. I get an AV when I try to print from message view. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
On 2005-09-23 at 18:10:04 Vili wrote: I will check the features, one question: the size of the EXE was ca. 10.5 MB at v.05. v.06 was 11.5 MB. Now we back to 10.4 MB. This last release was built by Maxim, the previous ones by 9Val. They obviously use different build systems and/or settings. Maybe 9Val builds his releases with debug symbols, while Maxim doesn't. pgpZubFWFiqRy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)
On 2005-09-23 at 19:39:53 Greg Strong wrote: Memory consumption is high at over 56 MB. After minimizing TB memory consumption drops to below 2 MB. Either something in TB is a memory hog or something is seriously wrong. Turn on the virtual memory column in Task Manager, and you'll see that The Bat always eats lots of memory, even if you minimize it. Windows always throws out as much memory of an application as it can when it is minimized; a very irritating, and in these days where memory is plentiful, nonsensical thing, but you can't turn it off, AFAIK. pgpaVrLkQLPNx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
On Friday, September 23, 2005, 12:34:21 PM, Richard Newman wrote: I get an AV when I try to print from message view. can't confirm -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Volodymyr, Stay on message. If message include a attachment (picture, text etc), to view it - Shortcut Ctrl+Tab not working! Messages List Tab is OFF... 3.61.05 - all OK. More details, please. At me, Ctrl+Tab just working fine... -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Dimitry, I will check the features, one question: the size of the EXE was ca. 10.5 MB at v.05. v.06 was 11.5 MB. Now we back to 10.4 MB. This last release was built by Maxim, the previous ones by 9Val. They obviously use different build systems and/or settings. Maybe 9Val builds his releases with debug symbols, while Maxim doesn't. Wait a sec... Now this version is slower, I click on a folder and wait for years for the messages to appera... at least this is how I feel. Is it possible that because of the different compilation settings? -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Mary, I can print your message to me fine from the Preview Pane. I get an AV when I try to print from message view. Then I cannot confirm. Me neither... I dont use preview neither. -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Mary, Friday, September 23, 2005, 2:18:44 PM, you wrote: I can print your message to me fine from the Preview Pane. I get an AV when I try to print from message view. For me, it's fixed in 07. You can print from both views? We'll have to sort out the difference in your settings and mine, I guess, if we're to help the development team solve this discrepancy. It happens to me when I use my preferred printer (FinePrint) or Adobe PDF. It does not happen to me if I use hard printer such as HP LaserJet or HP InkJet. This problem has never happened in prior versions/betas with FinePrint. This behavior did start with FinePrint in printing the results of searches several months ago. I've been living with that. The new problem seems to be an extension that is a significant inconvenience for me . . . in that it eliminates my preferred printer. Does that help to better define the current discrepancy? -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat!3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP5 Service Pack 2 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello All, MM 3.61.07 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar MM [+] Tabs: d'n'd editing ability MM [-] Tabs: now when selecting folder temporary aren't removed and tab doesn't change MM [-] AV on printing MM [-] Filters: 'Export message' action sometimes generated invalid filenames using macros MM [-] (#0005126) Checkboxes ate Enter key. MM [-] Old versions of The Bat! didn't work with new THEBAT.LNG files. MM [-] Tabs: tabs multiplication MM [-] (#0005138) options - message format submenu disappears [...] the new beta still has the flaw described in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] that started with the 3.60 series. To avoid being repetitive, here some screenshots... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You tell 'em Bald Head, you're smooth.attachment: stalled_backup_tb3.61.07.JPG Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
In Folder / Maintenance the Folders checked and Disk space saved numbers are displayed bad. Confirmations? -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.8.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 54% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
NetVicious [N] wrote, N In Folder / Maintenance the Folders checked and Disk space N saved numbers are displayed bad. N Confirmations? Confirmed here. -- Regards, Ron Secord Using TB! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Professional Under Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 If the conniption fits, wear it! Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard! On Friday, September 23, 2005, 5:52 PM, you wrote: I can print your message to me fine from the Preview Pane. I get an AV when I try to print from message view. For me, it's fixed in 07. You can print from both views? I can print both views. We'll have to sort out the difference in your settings and mine, I guess, if we're to help the development team solve this discrepancy. It happens to me when I use my preferred printer (FinePrint) or Adobe PDF. It does not happen to me if I use hard printer such as HP LaserJet or HP InkJet. My printer is a Hewlett Packard Laserjet 1300. This problem has never happened in prior versions/betas with FinePrint. I am sure it is a a change in TB!'s code that has changed the way TB! interacts with your preferred printer. This behavior did start with FinePrint in printing the results of searches several months ago. I've been living with that. The new problem seems to be an extension that is a significant inconvenience for me . . . in that it eliminates my preferred printer. Yes. So it should be fixed. Does that help to better define the current discrepancy? I think it does. I think you should add a BT note to your issue report at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5133 and put this information in. It should be on record that this is not fixed for you in beta v. 3.61.07. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, at 18:19:46 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:19 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: Hello All, 3.61.07 is available During making a backup, there is a menu showing the progress. It is not possible to read the line(s) what the bat! is backing up. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpcqxPAuK0En.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, I can print your message to me fine from the Preview Pane. I get an AV when I try to print from message view. For me, it's fixed in 07. You can print from both views? We'll have to sort out the difference in your settings and mine, I guess, if we're to help the development team solve this discrepancy. It happens to me when I use my preferred printer (FinePrint) or Adobe PDF. It does not happen to me if I use hard printer such as HP LaserJet or HP InkJet. This problem has never happened in prior versions/betas with FinePrint. It is just so happen :))) that I am the Hungarian distributor for Fineprint, also :)) Yeah, selling good softwares. So, the only downside I and my users observed with FP different from hard printers: sometimes are missing pictures from web pages. Also, not all hard printer printed out those pages. But: the behaviour that you describe has never happened. This behavior did start with FinePrint in printing the results of searches several months ago. I've been living with that. The new problem seems to be an extension that is a significant inconvenience for me . . . in that it eliminates my preferred printer. Tell me more about it! Which version of FP you have? I can print results of searches, etc to FP. That is my default, also... -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Memory consumption high!!! (was: Re: 3.61.07)
Hello Greg, Friday, September 23, 2005, 2:09:10 PM, you wrote: This has not always been the case. TB is the highest in my task manager. There has been numerous complaints about this issue over substantial periods of time. Nothing seems to be done about it. Agreed. This has been report on bug track. Still not resolved. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
On Friday, September 23, 2005 @ 8:19:46 AM [-0700], Maxim Masiutin wrote: 3.61.07 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? -- Matt Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Matt, Friday, September 23, 2005, 9:19:28 PM, you wrote: Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? It has not stopped working, it just seems to work intermittently. I don't see any real pattern. Also have pauses when selecting IMAP accounts, sometimes, that freeze the machine completely. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.07
Good day, Maxim. MM 3.61.07 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar Cannot download - connection failed. I'm connected to Internet via LAN. -- WBR, Vladimir 'insider' Prohorov [ICQ:179-598-229]|[Skype:inside_r]|[JID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [email only]|[3MB inbox]|[RLU #389152] The Bat! 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) w/OTFE @ Windows 2003 (5.2.3790., [uptime :: 0d 6h 29m]) pgp2rs3OvpYfn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.61.07
Hello Stuart, Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? It has not stopped working, it just seems to work intermittently. I don't see any real pattern. Also have pauses when selecting IMAP accounts, sometimes, that freeze the machine completely. I suspect there must be something when Maxim or 9Val compiles TB!... -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.61.07
Hello Vladimir, MM 3.61.07 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36107.rar Cannot download - connection failed. I'm connected to Internet via LAN. Working for me, just tried now. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 A Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07
Hello Richard, Friday, September 23, 2005, 5:52:26 PM, you wrote: It happens to me when I use my preferred printer (FinePrint) I am using FinePrint, and cannot duplicate your problem. -- Best regards, Dwightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/