Re: winmail.dat

[NetVicious]

lunes, 19 mar 2012 at 18:30, it seems you wrote:

> Are you sure? A MS technet post I read explains how to prevent sending
> winmail.dat, but only to specific addressees. There is no mention of 
> an option that Outlook users (without Exchange servers) can tick or 
> untick to globally turn sending winmail.dat on or off.

> Is this incorrect? Is there such an option?

Yes,  on the editor of the mails in outlook you should select HTML or 
Plain Text. Rich Text will use winmail.dat

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Re: winmail.dat

[NetVicious]

lunes, 19 mar 2012 at 17:21, it seems you wrote:

> Isn't 
> TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself?

I  see it sometimes when the message it's broken (big emails cutted by
my mail server). So I suppose if TB! cannot decode it you will see the
winmail.dat attachment.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thomas,

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:52:29 +0700GMT (26-3-2012, 16:52 , where I
live), you wrote:

 yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
 body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.
MM>> but I was wrong, it was implemented in 4.0 already :-)
TF> No, not in the version I am using.

It should be, because this is in the change log:

,- [  ]
| 4.0
| ---
| 
| Security has always been the RITLabs' characteristic feature. This credo was 
not forsaken by The Bat! 4.0 developers - they introduce the URL manager for 
background retrieval of the HTML images. Its appearance is caused by malicious 
codes penetrating PCs through graphic elements of the HTML messages more and 
more frequently. New manager blocks the suspicious images and lets the safe 
ones through. URL Manager controls the retrieval of messages not by folder or 
addressee, but by particular hosts or URLs.
| 
| Large-scale innovations were made in The Bat! 4.0 folder tabs. Now users are 
armed with Favorite sets of folders and addresses which allow grouping the 
folders according to various criteria regardless of their mailbox positions. 
Users with large and sophisticatedly structured message bases shall appreciate 
this quick message access option. One can add his working projects to different 
Favorite sets, view his most important folders using Favorites or even read the 
new messages from virtual folders added to Favorite sets. Each Favorite set may 
contain folders (including virtual ones) and Address History, which is also a 
The Bat! 4.0 novelty.
| 
| Address History gives users the possibility to track messages for each of the 
correspondents. Users may quickly find messages from a particular person, find 
out when this person replied or wrote a message for the last time, etc. The 
setup wizard collects initial information from the existing message base, so 
users can start navigating the Address History right away. Address History is 
totally adjustable - unnecessary correspondents can be deleted from this view 
mode, addressees can be divided into groups for the user's convenience. When 
the Address History is enabled, the list of the recorded correspondents can be 
accessed on the Addresses tab of the folder pane in the main program's window. 
It can also be combined with the Favorite sets.
| 
| In The Bat! 4.0 users will find an improved convenient interface. The main 
windows of the program have a modern look. Headers and free spaces of the 
windows have nice gradient background, unnecessary borders around graphic 
components were removed, avoiding visual clutter. The account section of the 
status bar has its own customizable popup menu, the status bar itself having an 
option to show/hide the account log.
| 
| The MicroEd text editor is improved. Now it supports Unicode, which means 
that one message can contain symbols from various sets (Latin, Cyrillic, 
hieroglyphic sets, etc.). In the new version any system fonts can be used for 
writing messages. Work with the editor is handier; the text search is equipped 
with new options.
| 
| The developers highly improved the internal image viewer. Now it allows 
viewing all the attached images in selected messages navigating between them. 
The viewer supports rotate, advanced resize and zoom algorithms and full screen 
mode.
| 
| Among other novelties the following ones should be mentioned:
| - %EMAIL% environment variable which simplifies The Bat! support and 
maintenance;
| - smart security buttons in PGP and S/MIME messages;
| - addressee's name capitalization thanks to a new %TOFName macro 
processing algorithm;
| - Outlook's attachment TNEF format support;
| - work with JPEG images with CMYK and YCCK color schemes;
| - five times faster message sorting, less memory consume due to fixed 
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Re: winmail.dat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

Monday, March 19, 2012, 11:41:44 PM, you wrote:

MM> Hello all,
MM> Monday, March 19, 2012, Dierk Haasis wrote:

>>> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
>>> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.

>> In that case I sit enlightened.

MM> but I was wrong, it was implemented in 4.0 already :-)

No, not in the version I am using.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:38:02 PM, you wrote:

MM> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
MM> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.

Guessing that you mean v5 of TheBat!, this is extremely good news!

Once they can guarantee that the flters work as expected, I'll upgrade.
I don't think they are even working on it though.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi Marek,


> can You redirect it to me?

BTW, just noticed: A redirected email doesn't show up in "sent"
folder. Should it?

(I'm aware of the difference between redirect and forward, but I'd 
have expected a copy of the message to end up in Sent anyway. Is it 
supposed to?)


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Re: winmail.dat

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi Marek,


>> Oh yes, I forgot: The message body was empty, no text at all. So the 
>> winmail.dat was in fact not decoded this time.
> can You redirect it to me?

... just waiting for your say-so... ;-)

On the way, in two messages - first a "redirect", and behind it a
traditional "forward" since I don't know for sure whether the servers
involved can even do a redirect (seems to have gotten through all
rigth, though.)


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Re: winmail.dat

[MAU]

Hello Alto,

> today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't 
> TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself? I don't 
> remember having seen one of those for ages.
>
> The message was a reading confirmation generated by Outlook 2010.

Exactly the same happened to me last Saturday and also with a reading 
confirmation, I don't know if generated by Outlook 2010 though.

As you can see in my signature I use TB v4.2.44.2 and I had not had 
any problem with winmail.dat attachments (which many times contain the 
actual message text) in a long time. 

Curious about what could be the problem I installed 'Winmail Opener 1.3' 
which I still had from the days when TB could not decode them, and, 
surprise surprise, it would freeze when trying to decode the winmail.dat 
attachment.

As I don't give up easily, I went to the Winmail Opener website and 
downloaded the latest version, 1.4 updated in Dec. 2011. This version 
can open and (apparently) decode the winmail.dat I received. It shows:

  Subject: N/A
  From: N/A
  
and what should be the message text is just blank. However, if I view 
source in TB, it doesn't look like the winmail.dat is empty.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Jernej Simončič]

On Monday, March 19, 2012, 18:24:25, Franz Schoeler wrote:

> I never saw anything worthwhile in winmail.dat attachments.

Can you please quote the messages you're replying to properly? It's
hard to read your e-mails.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Franz Schoeler]

>  Hello Franz,

> Anyone (in fact any stupid person or newcomer to all matters computer

> Especially if it's a person you trust send him an email telling him he
> should enter "winmail.dat" in Google and search how he can program/change
> Outlook so he won't ever attach winmail.dat again.
that is rather bold a statement and a stance I would not choose in
communication with, say, a customer.
Plus, since we're discussing the abilities of our favourite mail client here,
let's not go into ideology, and advising people to do something about their
stupid customers/mail partners.
Rather I'd choose to have a mail client that can look into that winmail.dat
for me to see if there is an attachment I expect or not.

To my knowledge, not only OL/OE overhead, but also valid attachments can be
packed by Outlook in this file format.

If Marek Mikus says, TheBat! can read the format for me, I am fully
satisfied.


Hello Viktor,

after I did some research on this, winmail.dat for me was always one of the 
file types I deleted immediately when attached to a mail in The Bat!.

In the beginning I used to open such files several times with "QuickViewPlus" 
(a program that "looks at" the content but does not REALLY open it - so there's 
no danger coming from it.

>From what I understood many years ago winmail.dat is a file produced because 
>someone did not configure his Outlook correctly. Maybe I'm completely wrong...

I never saw anything worthwhile in winmail.dat attachments.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Franz Schoeler]

>  Hello Franz,


> Anyone (in fact any stupid person or newcomer to all matters
> computer and software) who does this didn't configure his Microsoft Outlook 
> program correctly.

Are you sure? A MS technet post I read explains how to prevent sending 
winmail.dat, but only to specific addressees. There is no mention of 
an option that Outlook users (without Exchange servers) can tick or 
untick to globally turn sending winmail.dat on or off.

Is this incorrect? Is there such an option?



Hello Alto,

it's such a long time ago I had to tell a friend (who'd just bought Office 2007 
and was verrry proud to use the new Outlook) how to DE-install sending the 
winmail.dat file  to me that I forgot where to do this.

As a music promoter he sent this file with every pdf, all the graphics and 
informations out to every jounalist in his address book. A nightmare...

From what I read it's even de rigeur (a MUST) to NOT attach this file - 
actually every specialist recommended to configure Outlook so you won't send 
this attachment with every mail.

At least you can click that away every time someone sends this file; so it 
won't do harm to your computer. But why send this attachment anyway?

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Re: winmail.dat

[Viktor Kabelac]

Hello Franz,

> Anyone (in fact any stupid person or newcomer to all matters computer

> Especially if it's a person you trust send him an email telling him he
> should enter "winmail.dat" in Google and search how he can program/change
> Outlook so he won't ever attach winmail.dat again.
that is rather bold a statement and a stance I would not choose in
communication with, say, a customer.
Plus, since we're discussing the abilities of our favourite mail client here,
let's not go into ideology, and advising people to do something about their
stupid customers/mail partners.
Rather I'd choose to have a mail client that can look into that winmail.dat
for me to see if there is an attachment I expect or not.

To my knowledge, not only OL/OE overhead, but also valid attachments can be
packed by Outlook in this file format.

If Marek Mikus says, TheBat! can read the format for me, I am fully
satisfied.



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Re: winmail.dat

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marek!

On Monday, March 19, 2012 at 4:38:02 PM you wrote:

> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.

In that case I sit enlightened.



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Re: winmail.dat

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hello Franz,


> Anyone (in fact any stupid person or newcomer to all matters
> computer and software) who does this didn't configure his Microsoft Outlook 
> program correctly.

Are you sure? A MS technet post I read explains how to prevent sending 
winmail.dat, but only to specific addressees. There is no mention of 
an option that Outlook users (without Exchange servers) can tick or 
untick to globally turn sending winmail.dat on or off.

Is this incorrect? Is there such an option?


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Re: winmail.dat

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi Marek,


>> today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't
>> TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself?
>> The message was a reading confirmation generated by Outlook 2010.

> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.

Oh yes, I forgot: The message body was empty, no text at all. So the 
winmail.dat was in fact not decoded this time.


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Re: winmail.dat

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Alto!

On Monday, March 19, 2012 at 4:21:20 PM you wrote:

> today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't 
> TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself? I don't 
> remember having seen one of those for ages.

I doubt TB or any e-mail cient not based upon OL can decode it. Just
ignore it, nothing of interest in it, just some logistical overhead of
and for OL.


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Re: winmail.dat

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, March 19, 2012, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

> today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't
> TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself? I don't 
> remember having seen one of those for ages.

> The message was a reading confirmation generated by Outlook 2010.

yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any
body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF.

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Re: winmail.dat

[Franz Schoeler]

>  Hi,


today I received a message with an attachment winmail.dat. Isn't 
TheBat supposed to be able to decode this file by itself? I don't 
remember having seen one of those for ages.

The message was a reading confirmation generated by Outlook 2010.


Regards,
Alto


Hello -

no one should ever send a winmail.dat file to anyone as an attachment to a mail.

Anyone (in fact any stupid person or newcomer to all matters computer and 
software) who does this didn't configure his Microsoft Outlook program 
correctly.

Even if it's a person who you trust you should delete this file immediately and 
never open it.

Especially if it's a person you trust send him an email telling him he should 
enter "winmail.dat" in Google and search how he can program/change Outlook so 
he won't ever attach winmail.dat again.

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Scott Guthrie]

Greetings Timothy,


Saturday, October 25, 2003, 8:23:19 AM, you wrote:

->|> And the difference between Most US Government agencies and
->Large US Government Agencies is what?
->|> lol

Ooops .   Thinking one thing and writing another

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Thursday, October 23, 2003, MaXxX wrote...

> Greetings.

> I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS
> Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called "winmail.dat",
> but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own
> evil reasons, I ignored it.

Outlook uses those winmail.dat files as richtext encoding (if I
remember correctly) or similar such things.

> So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted
> standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does
> Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I
> pry the darned thing open??

Outlook sends weird things.  You'll probably notice the content-type
is labelled as application/ms-tnef, (if you cannot guess) is a
Microsoft specific type. ;)

  http://www.fentun.com/
  http://www.biblet.freeserve.co.uk/Download/WMDecode.zip
  

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Paul C]

MDP> All I'll say is ... what the zarking photon is that double line
MDP> spacing all about? Looks like you're using a "slightly tweaked"
MDP> wrapped quotes template. Do you need some help with putting it
MDP> straight? (goto TBTECH for that).
it wasn't MY message that was the problem, it was the original.
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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Maurice Snellen]

On Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 22:09 Maxxx wrote:

> Where in the nine pits of Hell did they (MS) find that idea :/

Simple. They come up with something new, hope that enough people will
use it and by doing so try to make defacto standards that they hope
others will support.

I've heard that Novell is supporting this MS-only attachment encoding
style called MS-TNEF in their latest incursion of their GroupWise
Internet Agent gateway if only to get rid of the questions of their
customers.

The reason almost any mail from Outlook has this attachment, even if
no files were attached to the e-mail is that it is used to store
Outlook specific additional mailproperties as well. Why they don't
just use X-headers for those is beyond me.

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello MaXxX,

   On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:06:17 +0200 (24.10.2003 00:06 my local time)
   you wrote about "winmail.dat ?  what the heck is that?",
   at least in part:

M> There seem to be JPEG files inside it, but how should I open it?
Well, it's M$ proprietary MS_TNEF, evil of Internet mail

M> So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted
M> standard for sending attachments,
TNEF is non standard, RFC define and allow MIME

M>  or (more likely, I know) does
M> Outlook send weird things?
Yes, but it _can_ also use MIME... Fentun can help you in fighting with
winmail.dat
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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Paul,

@23-Oct-2003, 15:35 -0400 (20:35 UK time) Paul C [PC] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul:

M>>> Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck
M>>> can I pry the darned thing open??

PC>> drag the winmail.dat to a program called fentun.exe , it will
PC>> expand out any attachments..

PC>  ok, I can see the cut & copy police out after me... I THOUGHT I
PC>  trimmed that reply, but when I got itUGH, his entire
PC>  message go ahead, make my day;0)

All I'll say is ... what the zarking photon is that double line
spacing all about? Looks like you're using a "slightly tweaked"
wrapped quotes template. Do you need some help with putting it
straight? (goto TBTECH for that).

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[MaXxX]

On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 9:04:05 PM, Martin Webster turned
electrons into what is below:

> You can view the winmail.dat file using a free utility from
> http://www.biblet.com/.

Found it already, but thanks. :)
Where in the nine pits of Hell did they (MS) find that idea :/

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Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?

[George Mitchell]

MaXxX wrote:

> I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS
> Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called "winmail.dat",
> but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own
> evil reasons, I ignored it.



> So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted
> standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does
> Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry
> the darned thing open??

As you suspected, Outlook sends weird stuff.  Some information and
solutions (including a link to a decoder) can be found at:

http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm

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Re: Winmail.dat

[Alexander V. Kiselev]

Hi there!

On 24 Nov 99, at 14:07, Syafril Hermansyah wrote
about "Re: Winmail.dat":

Then we should add this to "tips and tricks":-) Glad it finally 
worked for you. The whole thing is about the following: "how to 
make Netscape know that *this* non-HTML file is of special 
(enriched) type and contains fancy formatting?". It's done by 
setting MIME type of association to text/enriched. This way 
Netscape is forced to use its knowledge about text/enriched 
MIME type handling when in Messenger (FYI, it shows 
enriched messages in Messenger as if they were HTML, 
exploiting probably that portion of C code I've supplied recently).

> Yes, now I'm trying Alexander trick as follow :
> 
> Create  the  association  (via  Windows  explorer)  with the following
> properties:
> 
> Description: message enriched
> 
> Type (MIME): text/enriched
> 
> Standard extension: .enriched
> 
> Action: open by netscape.exe (no commandline qualifiers!)
> Application to use to perform action : point to netscape.exe
> 
> Confirm opening: unchecked
> 
> Allow quickview: unchecked
> 
> Always show extension: checked.
> 
> It work !



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Re: Winmail.dat

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On dated Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 14:18:57 you told to the list:

SH>> It work !

TF> :-D)))

TF> You just made my day (even though the solution is not from me, but I
TF> was starting to worry.) ;-)

Anyhow thanks for your tip :-)


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Re: Winmail.dat

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On dated Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 12:08:12 you told to the list:

SH Ouh..  all  of  my  browser  installed  in  my machine give up to read
SH enriched  attachment  (Netscape  4.7,  Internet  Explorer  5.01, Opera
SH 3.60).
SH Any other ideas ?

TF>>> I have Netscpae 4.7 and it opens .ENRICHED files.

SH>> How come lucky man !
SH>> I will try Alexander's advise later, are you having a tip for me ?

TF> This is how I did it:
TF> 1.) click on an .enriched attachment in TB.
TF> 2.) the software will ask you what .exe programme to open this
TF> application with. It will show you all possibilities.
TF> 3.) select Netscape and click "OK".

SH I  did  exactly  as that, but "<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" etc still
SH comes up.

TF> I am confused. OK, let's start from scratch: somewhere in Windows
TF> Explorer there is a list where you can see which file extensions are
TF> related to which .exe application. (As I cannot read Chinese and
TF> therefore cannot tell you where that is. If you don't know it, someone
TF> on this list may be avble to ehlp you.)

TF> You  check whether you find "enriched file" there - if yes, delete
TF> the entry.

No entry there.

TF> Close explorer, go to TB and click again on the attachment, and the
TF> question window "How I should I open this file" should come up again.
TF> Choose Netscape.

Not work :-).

TF> This should have nothing to do with any email address.

Yes, now I'm trying Alexander trick as follow :

Create  the  association  (via  Windows  explorer)  with the following
properties:

Description: message enriched

Type (MIME): text/enriched

Standard extension: .enriched

Action: open by netscape.exe (no commandline qualifiers!)
Application to use to perform action : point to netscape.exe

Confirm opening: unchecked

Allow quickview: unchecked

Always show extension: checked.

It work !


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Re: Winmail.dat

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On dated Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 11:07:10 you told to the list:

SH>> Ouh..  all  of  my  browser  installed  in  my machine give up to read
SH>> enriched  attachment  (Netscape  4.7,  Internet  Explorer  5.01, Opera
SH>> 3.60).
SH>> Any other ideas ?

TF> I have Netscpae 4.7 and it opens .ENRICHED files.

SH How come lucky man !
SH I will try Alexander's advise later, are you having a tip for me ?

TF>>> This is how I did it:
TF>>> 1.) click on an .enriched attachment in TB.
TF>>> 2.) the software will ask you what .exe programme to open this
TF>>> application with. It will show you all possibilities.
TF>>> 3.) select Netscape and click "OK".

SH>> I  did  exactly  as that, but "<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" etc still
SH>> comes up.

TF> Where exactly does this email address in Cambodia come up - in the
TF> browser?

Yupe ! Any setting in Netscape related ?

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Re: Winmail.dat

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On dated Monday, November 22, 1999, 17:43:52 you told to the list:

TF>>> I have noticed that I can now delete attachments named winmail.dat
TF>>> (was not possible in earlier versions).

SH>> Never pay attention on it.
SH>> Question : what happen if you delete winmail.dat in the past ?

TF> Error  message came up: "This is an Inline attachment". It was not
TF> possible to delete.

I  see.  This  means  TB now can separate it from main message. I like
that,  most of Exchange user generate this TNEF attachment if replying
MIME messages.


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Re: Winmail.dat

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On dated Monday, November 22, 1999, 17:15:07 you told to the list:

TF> I have noticed that I can now delete attachments named winmail.dat
TF> (was not possible in earlier versions).

Never pay attention on it.
Question : what happen if you delete winmail.dat in the past ?

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