Re: Editor issue
Hello Lone, On Wed, 22 May 2002 15:04:27 +1000 GMT (22/05/02, 12:04 +0700 GMT), Lone Wolf wrote: LW How can I get the Bat! editor to act ~normally~ when I compose a LW post, or cut paste, etc.? What's normal? g LW I mean, why do the scroll bars go; They disappear? Sometimes they do that over here and I have to hit crtl-home. But I cannot put my finger on it, so I haven't sent a bug report. LW why do cut pastes reformat, etc. etc. Because you have activated auto-format. Go to Utilities in the editor and uncheck it. Also uncheck auto-wrap in the process. To make the change (unchecked auto-format) permanent, go to the main window, choose Options / Editor Preferences and tick/untick to your heart's content. LW Why can't life be simple? It is not? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Baseball is 90% mental; the other half is physical. (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wed, 22 May 2002 03:18:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Paul Wilson on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [ ... ] Newsgroups? Personally, I don't read them! Life is too short. If the user base really wants a NewsGroup and to disband this list I will resign as moderator. Period. Even I can run News Server connected to current List Server on this HOST, but I will not to do that. Please find another server, I don't want to host it, sorry. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Administrator and List Maintainer. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
Hello Julius, On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:49:48 -0400 GMT (22/05/02, 10:49 +0700 GMT), Julius S. wrote: JS Ready to go back to FREE no hastle Outlook Express. Do they also give you several updates per month? You see, you don't need to outdate TB if you don't want to. Friends of mine just do it every 2 years or so, which is about the same frequency as OE. No update no hassle! JS Everything on the Bat! seems to be endless agony... 200 or so JS problem postings per day to the List... or is it just me?? If OE had a list like this, I bet you would see several thousand postings a day. I believe there are some NG's dedicated to that piece of software. Check them out and find that TBUDL list is peaceful, helpful, and to the point. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN Cops have nothing to go on. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Question About Killing Dupes
Hello Chris, On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:28:33 -0500 GMT (22/05/02, 11:28 +0700 GMT), Chris Montgomery wrote: CM I'm wondering how the kill dupes in folders works, i.e., what criteria CM does TB use to distinguish dupe files. AFAIK message ID plus creation date. CM Once messages are killed by removing dupes, where do they go - to CM trash or are they just wiped? I don't know. CM I'm concerned that I might have lost lots of messages that TB CM thought were dupes but they really weren't. If this helps yu: nobody has ever complained that TB did that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Half the people you know are below average. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What happened to Help?
Hello Michael, On Tue, 21 May 2002 18:25:04 -0700GMT (22-5-02, 3:25 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: Re: Help problem MSG Is this a problem on my computer or with the program? My TB help file opens perfectly fine, so I guess it's a local problem for you. Do you have the same problems with other help files? MSG Meanwhile, can anyone tell me what this Inbox-Known is, why I need it, MSG and how I get rid of it if I don't want it? Inbox-Known is a special inbox, with a hard coded filter in the sorting office. The Known-filter is able to check whether senders are in (a selected part of) your address book. Those recipients are filtered into inbox-known. It's a filter to have an inbox with mail that isn't spam for certain. But you can adept it to a filter (just selecting only a few groups) that puts mail from important contacts into the known-inbox, so you could have mail with a high and low priority. Take care though, that the known-filter is the last one in your incoming mail filters, so that it doesn't interfere with your other filters. You can delete the inbox-known by disabling the known-filter, I did so and the inbox-known disappeared from view. (Still exists on disk, but who cares) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hello Joseph, On Tue, 21 May 2002 20:17:28 -0500GMT (22-5-02, 3:17 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: JN Isn't it time we created a newsgroup where messages could be posted JN and read, even retained for a period of time? You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client and that lots of the readers of this list are not interested in news and therefore don't have installed a newsreader. (No I don't considser Outbreak Express an option) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
Hello Thomas You wrote On Wed, 22 May 2002, at 13:27:08 [GMT +0700] (16:27:08 Wednesday, 22 May 2002 where I live):- To make the change (unchecked auto-format) permanent, go to the main window, choose Options / Editor Preferences and tick/untick to your heart's content. Thanks. What are Smart Tabs? -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Using Bat! 1.60m - Being used by Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram Honest Ma, I got it from a toilet seat... Delivered using the Free Personal Edition of Mailtraq (www.mailtraq.com) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail Joseph On 22 May 2002 at 20:17:28 -0500 (which was 02:17 where I live) Joseph N. wrote and made these points Isn't it time we created a newsgroup Humm. I spot on oxymoron here (I think). A news group for an email client. I have used news groups but I find them harder to use that a list. I for one would not participate. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | The big ship. I want to see that one explode. - Tol Sivron | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE860zw+Yrx5mUPRTQRAoa6AJwP5RrG46E/LcXwVYFs9nMBmXlO3ACeLr+b ft1S+7ts/bGbab/njaazg+M= =oY+e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Inbox - Known (was: What happened to Help?)
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 8:07:31 AM you wrote: MSG and how I get rid of it if I don't want it? Don't know. For all those who couldn't follow the lists in the past few weeks - and those that don't know what an archive is: Got to your Sorting Office and disable the Known filter. After that (and may be are-start of TB!) the said folder should be gone. If not, you can now delete ist and it'll be gone until you enable the filter again. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Calling Things by their right name marks the beginning of Wisdom. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How to delete message.htm in message by filtering
Hello Roelof! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 1:16:45 AM you wrote: Can't be done. She can make up a filter looking for the correct content-type in the kludges and then strip the attachment to delete it. At the moment the way to do it is far beyond my humble skills, but I am quite sure I've seen such filters on TBTECH some time. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Erwarte von anderen nur, was Du selbst bereit bist zu geben. (Romy Walda) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
Hello Lone! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 7:04:27 AM you wrote: How can I get the Bat! editor to act ~normally~ when I compose a post, or cut paste, etc.? It does. I mean, why do the scroll bars go; why do cut pastes reformat, etc. etc. Because it is still a free caret concept? Why can't life be simple? Why should it? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If all men acted from enlightened self interest, the world would be a paradise in comparison to what it is. (Bertrand Russell) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Csaba, On Wed, 22 May 2002 01:37:27 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 1:37 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: CK I have just realized that our mail server supports both POP3 CK access and IMAP access. Which do you think I should use? POP3. You're using TB and TB has a bit imperfect IMAP implementation. IMAP is more suited to a LAN, because you've got to connect to the server to read your mail (even a second or third time) Of course IMAP has advantages like being able to read your mail on any computer (with an imap client), but with the possibilities that TB offers I prefer POP3. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hello Joseph! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 3:17:28 AM you wrote: The email load has become too great. Even with threading, the time to download messages or even headers and then to weed through them has, in my opinion, slipped over the line of cost:benefit. It sounds to good to be true, to have a newsgroup where one downloads headers in a few seconds and then decide which threads are really interesting. I have yet to come on one that really functions as well as these lists. The Paradox Community has created its own server - for other reasons - and it is neither as communicative as before nor faster than a ML. I usually have to try connecting more than two times; I very often get Connection failed. With the load on the server I'd rather have an ML. Isn't it time we created a newsgroup where messages could be posted and read, even retained for a period of time? I admit this question doesn't come up to often, but it does frequently. And I am always astonished as to why people asking for a newsgroup just don't get ahead and create one. then tell us on the lists, make it known through other channels - there are lots of people using TB! not being on any TBML - and see what happens. Any interest in this? Not really. I already do read all messages - well, some of them only get skimmed -, and I always find interesting ideas (not necessarily TB! related) within threads I wouldn't touch if I'd only see the header. BTW, a newsgroup would mean - as Marck himself pointed out in of these discussions a few months ago - to not use TB! but a news client like Agent, perhaps even Outlook Express. Any more questions ...? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: [OT] mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
Hello William! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 1:41:34 AM you wrote: A port to OSX would be amazing. I do most of my graphics work on my mac and its a bit of a pain to have to go to the PC to get e-mail. The Bat is just too damn cool to give up. :-) Hmm, isn't there a PC-emulator for MacOS X? I know there have been two or three for the old MacOS (up to 9). And X is based upon the core of NextStep ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Lebe inkonsistent! (D.A. Wien) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 8:21:37 AM you wrote: JS Ready to go back to FREE no hastle Outlook Express. No update no hassle! No hassle with OE? Only when one doesn't pay attention to warnings about security holes. One of the most frequent tips for being on the safe side is, to use up-to-date software (especially OS and applications connecting the computer to other machines). And then, what about the automatization processes (like templates) that TB! offers over OE? Even the interface of OE is much more complicated than TB!'s, trading usability for good looks. If OE had a list like this, I bet you would see several thousand postings a day. I believe there are some NG's dedicated to that piece of software. Check them out and find that TBUDL list is peaceful, helpful, and to the point. :-) Not to forget, his statistics is a) plain wrong b) not even naive but stupid. Consider this: One member of the list asks for advice about a problem (in quotation marks because I mean it to be the mathematical term). Now fifty questions come in about the specific task at hand, as the original post didn't mention enough particulars. after having re-defined the problem another 50 answers come in. Now we stay at 102 postings. From half of them spring other discussions, some of them TB! related like I don't like the editor, some of them asking for other apps like that reminds me, has anyone seen a cheap all-purpose editor. And then there are the fun posts, Has anybody heard yet, Stephen Jay Gould died recently Not to forget meta-discussions like this message. For the record, I don't think there are as many postings in OE-related newsgroups (for various reasons). I know for sure that Word newsgroups have about 200-500 messages per day (all together). Most of them are really about bugs and difficulties. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C To be is to be the value of a variable. (W.V.O. Quine) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Csaba! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 1:37:27 AM you wrote: However, I don't really see what IMAP could give me over POP using the BAT. If you need access to your mail from different locations and computers, even share your mailbase with others - as would be the case for corporate mails (i.e. support) - IMAP is a good idea. Otherwise POP3 is the way to go. Particularly since TB!'s IMAP support is practically nothing more than an extended POP3. That is, TB! supports the most basic commands (getting mail and sending mail) of the protocol. All other features (synchronising, folder creation and deletion etc.) are not implemented, yet. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If you ask the government for a permit, you admit to having no right! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Trash folder: Incompatible options?!
Hello Miguel! On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 8:21:09 PM you wrote: Check your Account/Properties/Options and se if you have Empty Trash folder on exit select. If yes, this overrides the trash folder settings. Thanks, that's step one, I *was* overlooking something. Now I hope it works like I want to ... BTW, there is a problem with these options. As long as they are mutually exclusive there should be a way to prevent users choosing them. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Assumptions are the mother of all screw ups. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: How to delete message.htm in message by filtering
Dear Dierk, Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 9:33:56 AM you wrote: DH At the moment the way to do it is far beyond my humble skills, but I DH am quite sure I've seen such filters on TBTECH some time. Thank you. I wasn't aware that there were a tech-list. I have now subscribed. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... I'll be right back ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
Hello John! On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 9:41:01 AM you wrote: Thanks. What are Smart Tabs? The best way to see it is to enable them and then try to make a table: 12 3 45 6 7 8 0 Try this and be awed. ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. (George Bernard Shaw) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Tue, 21 May 2002 at 07:55 GMT -0500 (21/05/2002 19:55 where you think I live) Jonathan Angliss=[JA] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on domain names/ip addresses in email headers? Not many I know of. This is be trend lately, my Server does check Sender Domain, RDNS and HELO/EHLO command from MTA Sender. For me, this is not just to prevent /real/ spammer but also from deception viruses such Klez. There is articles why someone do this from other POV : http://www.tzo.com/mainpagetext/ProblemSendingEmail.html http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_976831,00.html And last but not least, an opinion from one List Administrator of known list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : ---begin copy--- From : Steve Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 10:10:00 PM Subject: PTR records PS - note the difference between the SMTP Sender's domain and whether it exists and the IP address of the sending host (which could be quite different, as in messages from a mailing list). I used to block messages from IP addresses that didn't resolve (PTR lookup) but got too many complaints from people who couldn't mail us and had no control over their ISP's setup - often big ISPs got their DNS PTR records wrong! However, we still insist that the SMTP sender domain exists in the DNS, on the grounds that (auto)replies may not work unless the domains are correct. I think we also insist that header line sender addresses are resolvable too (again to ensure replies work). Cheers, Steve ---end copy--- BTW. I didn't activate RDNS for home.worldless.net. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60m under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Cookies wanted!
Hello Csaba! On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 8:48:06 PM you wrote: I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some collections? I tried to send you mine (a RARed plain text file) off list. But it was blackholed immediately by your server. I didn't use my GMX address but my own domain, which isn't a spamming address. I'd still like to send it to you ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60k on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Living is learning. One of the important things to learn: Scrap Respect, it is usually just fear of your own courage. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What happened to Help?
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 22 May 2002 09:35:31 +0200 GMT (22/05/02, 14:35 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Take care though, that the known-filter is the last one in your RO incoming mail filters, so that it doesn't interfere with your other RO filters. Yes and no. I have the Known filter before some other filters, and that is on purpose. If the message comes from someone I know, I want to read it first and then do what I have to do. If it is from someone I don't know, it is first put into the appropriate folder and I'll deal with it later. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Planet: A body of Earth surrounded by sky. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Filter required to download only mail from originators in addressbook.
Hi folks, As a new comer to Bat, I am making very little progress in configuring it to filter my email. Ideally, I would like to configure it to download only the headers of email on my dial-up ISP's server, then to check the downloaded headers against originators in my address book and finally, to download the full text of those emails that that match and place them in a separate folder before notifying me to log off. The headers that are left will be 99% spam and after a quick glance through to check for legitimate mail, can be dealt with manually. Having read all the bumph and still being not much wiser, is this possible and how do I go about it. -- Stuart Webb Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How to delete message.htm in message by filtering
Hello Dierk, On Wed, 22 May 2002 09:33:56 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 9:33 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: Can't be done. DH She can make up a filter looking for the correct content-type in the DH kludges and then strip the attachment to delete it. Yes, but you can only strip all attachments, so if you've got html mail with an attached zip-file you've lost that one too. DH At the moment the way to do it is far beyond my humble skills, but I DH am quite sure I've seen such filters on TBTECH some time. It's not that difficult, just checking for: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; or text/html both in the kludges. As action you've got to extract attachments to the trash directory. Of course you can strip the attachments to directory that's cleared on a regular base from all html-files, while leaving the alone, but it still ain't a real html-strip-function. (And not worth the hassle imo) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: What happened to Help?
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:17:52 +0700GMT (22-5-02, 11:17 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO Take care though, that the known-filter is the last one in your RO incoming mail filters, so that it doesn't interfere with your other RO filters. TF Yes and no. I have the Known filter before some other filters, and TF that is on purpose. It was merely meant as a reminder that putting it too high in the filter hierarchy could have unintended results. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Filter required to download only mail from originators in addressbook.
Hello Stuart, On Tue, 21 May 2002 17:09:37 +0100GMT (21-5-02, 18:09 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: SW Ideally, I would like to configure it to download only the headers of SW email on my dial-up ISP's server, then to check the downloaded headers SW against originators in my address book and finally, Seems to me you'd need a 'selective download' filter that would match the sender to the address book, unfortunately that's no option for those filters. The only work around is to manually enter all wanted recipients in the signal box for the filter, no fun I think. Another way around this is to download everything, let the known-filter put all mail from AB-entries in the known-inbox, so you'd need only check the inbox for spam. Set the properties for the inbox to max numbers of msg's 1 and to purge and compress on exit, that way you'll have a clean inbox. Only downside is you've got to download everything, but I don't know how heavy your spam-load is. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: POP3 or IMAP?
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote: Otherwise POP3 is the way to go. Particularly since TB!'s IMAP support is practically nothing more than an extended POP3. That is, TB! supports the most basic commands (getting mail and sending mail) of the protocol. All other features (synchronising, folder creation and deletion etc.) are not implemented, yet. Thank you. I've been pulling my hair out for a month trying to figure out how to make The Bat! be at all useful. Knowing it simply doesn't have the functionality I need is of great assistance. Aleecia Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hi Thomas, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:11:05 +0700, you wrote: Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 21 May 2002 22:07:03 -0500 GMT (22/05/02, 10:07 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA There is always a third option. Some mailing list managers (mailman for JA example) allow auto-posting to news groups/servers. If a newsgroup was to JA be established, then a sort of cross-post could be established where JA anything posted to the newsgroup gets posted here, and visa-versa. Newsgroups and Mailing Lists have different climates. I don't think crossposting is a good idea. How would setting a list to post to newsgroup, and mailing list cause problems? And what did you mean about different climates? I can understand that sometimes people post slightly different on news groups, but I've been on several news groups where they cross-post to mailing lists as well. When I say cross-post, I don't mean two individual addresses specified, I mean the mailing list software/news server software passing the messages between each other, no end user interaction on that part. All I said was it was worth a look into if there was enough interest. I'm in the process of setting up a news server for the company I work for anyway, so checking it out at the same time wouldn't be much hassle. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Link catching, was Re: Cookies wanted!
Hi Tim, It so happened that On Tue, 21 May 2002, at 15:00:14 [GMT -0400] (which was 21:00 in my corner of the world) ,you typed: TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random TM or just TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/ You know, it's at times like these that i wish that the bat had a feature to save urls in favorites or a special file or whatever, so that one didn't have to save a whole message just to extract an url. One could even make this a plug-in so that those who wanted it could have it and those who didn't want it could just select not to DL the plug-in. -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.60m, on Windows 98 4 10 build Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas F [TF] wrote: ... TF Because you have activated auto-format. Go to Utilities in the TF editor and uncheck it. Also uncheck auto-wrap in the process. I wouldn't uncheck autowrap. Have you tried that and seen what it does? :-) Yes, uncheck autoformat. It will prevent a lot of the problems you're having. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE863+IV8nrYCsHF+IRAhkFAJsEp/93nusIdY/PPnn2cwW+pdxjAwCg20vH ZZhiO6AzZ9WzxIxxwKTZ/Aw= =REkV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lone Wolf [LW] wrote: ... LW How can I get the Bat! editor to act ~normally~ when I compose a LW post, or cut paste, etc.? Because it isn't a 'normal' editor. :-) It works differently. It's a free caret editor. LW I mean, why do the scroll bars go; why do cut pastes reformat, LW etc. etc. One of it's weaknesses. It has a free caret interface meaning that you can place your caret even in areas where you didn't type anything. If your cursor ends up more than a page away from where you last inserted a character, the scroll-bar will not be present. You can do this by simply opening a new message and using the arrow key to move the cursor downwards until text flows off the screen. No scroll-bar appears. Right? Now hit the spacebar to insert a space character. The scroll-bar appears. Of course, if a scroll-bar has already appeared because you've typed more than a window page of text, then the scroll-bar will already be there and the problem will not exist. LW Why can't life be simple? :-) I'd really love for you to go into a different mode. One where you wonder why TB!'s editor behaves the way it does and how it can be used to your advantage. I find TB!'s editor to be excellent for use in the context of e-mail formatting. It took me a little time to become accustomed to it but I find it akin to learning a different language. I have no problem using other editors and word processors since I know how they work as well and just slip into the relevant mode. TB!'s editor has some text reflowing capabilities that you'll only find in highly specialised text editors (certainly not in any other Windows e-mail client's editor). It shows you the exact formatting that the recipient will receive when they get your message, something that most other Windows clients fall woefully short on. There are also some other very nifty capabilities like column vs stream vs linear text selection modes, the ability to indent whole text blocks and paste text indented. I find myself firing up SmartBat for these abilities needed outside the context of e-mail. :-) I'm not saying that TB!'s editor is perfect either, but there's a lot to it that isn't initially appreciated. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE864LJV8nrYCsHF+IRAuF2AJ4i2CYPgGVWceoBSE4eVkuHfWL6sACg8SEb nRZ3gUZWqlMRCDcB9hcA5ag= =EhQC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Hiding messages in certain folders?
Hello Tim. At 1:58 PM on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 you wrote the following about [Hiding messages in certain folders?]: Tim Is there a way to only show unread messages on a Tim folder-by-folder basis? [...] Not in an obvious way, i.e. its not a TB! option but I think its possible thru filters colors. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60c/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Renaming Attachments, Is it possible?
Hello Carlton. At 8:53 PM on Monday, May 20, 2002 you wrote the following about [Renaming Attachments, Is it possible?]: [...] Is there a place where I can learn more about creating/running an external program (i.e., bat file [/...] These links may be helpful. http://www.computerhope.com/batch.htm http://www.ericphelps.com/batch/ http://xset.tripod.com/batchtip.htm http://gatsby.tafe.tas.edu.au/batch/ http://infocenter.cramsession.com/tutorials/categoriesX.asp?pi=S4C16 -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60c/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Wed, 22 May 2002 at 06:01 GMT -0500 (22/05/2002 18:01 where you think I live) Jonathan Angliss=[JA] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : BTW. I didn't activate RDNS for home.worldless.net. Have you enabled it now? Seems to rDNS very well to me. No because it's fine for you and me but not others :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60m under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Well, I'm surprised at the extent of opposition to a newsgroup. Dierk's idea of just starting one and seeing what happens is a good one, but my project cup runneth over at the moment. Perhaps another day. FWIW, I will say that there are plenty of very helpful and focused NG's out there, but I respect the (overwhelming) view here against the idea. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Mising Quick Text after move
I've just moved all The Bat's mail files from a network drive to a local drive (the program files remained where they were). The Quick Text messages are all missing, although all of the ACCOUNT.QTN files are present. I can open these files in a text editor and copy/paste to set up the QT messages, but I'm betting that The Bat has an easier way. I couldn't find it in the help files, the FAQ, or the archive, though. Thanks! Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Bill Blinn, Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 5/22/2002 at 8:41 AM Technology Corner, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 Fax: 630-604-9842 http://wtvn.blinn.com http://www.wtvn.com Random thought: Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes. Always. - Mahatma Gandhi Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:03:26 AM, you wrote: RO Hello Csaba, RO On Wed, 22 May 2002 01:37:27 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 1:37 +0200GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: CK I have just realized that our mail server supports both POP3 CK access and IMAP access. Which do you think I should use? RO POP3. RO You're using TB and TB has a bit imperfect IMAP implementation. RO IMAP is more suited to a LAN, because you've got to connect to the RO server to read your mail (even a second or third time) RO Of course IMAP has advantages like being able to read your mail on any RO computer (with an imap client), but with the possibilities that TB RO offers I prefer POP3. For me connection is not a problem, so IMAP could work very well here. Do you know if it is planned that BAT will be developed toward IMAP in the future? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! “All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power. -- Ashleigh Brilliant” Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello, This is not a poll of course but, for the record, I don't think a newsgroup would offer any serious advantage over the mailing list format; unless one considers the bandwidth, as already pointed out. That said, I'd still read a newsgroup about TB! if the mailing list were to be replaced by it. - -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send%20PGP%20Key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQCVAwUBPOtowe9OwzMv6NuJAQFJrgQApJYVR1rT1O1oIuOTpJ/OKifMfQK/J/9h +D1P46JVlDMPrV1i5wuTksF7TZYesWp1Ny3pIdsFnFK7cgfZowecksd9Cf4jc7MP xyId9PgB6y+tOKk9JZnySE5hao5RiF0KW8PQ/ddRmqkFXSRqqc08CssM4LwqVIoN Ny5S6McmQw4= =H+Cl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote... Meaning that newsgroups, unless they're private, are usually not moderated. This allows a lot of flaming, arguing, off-topic discussions and circular discussions completing way too many circles before ending. Well, as is with the list, the newsgroup would be private, and maybe on just a single news server, provided by RitLabs, or a willing member of this list. And as it is just going to be a duplicate (or another method of viewing/posting) of the current list... the existing moderators have no extra work to do. JA I can understand that sometimes people post slightly different on JA news groups, Yes. This is why I generally don't like them and have since stopped. You yourself may end up posting differently. I haven't used a news group in a long while. Although I occasionally drop in them for information, and quick answers. JA but I've been on several news groups where they cross-post to JA mailing lists as well. When I say cross-post, I don't mean two JA individual addresses specified, I mean the mailing list JA software/news server software passing the messages between each JA other, no end user interaction on that part. These lists are unmoderated, I assume. No... they can be moderated by the list moderator, or a dedicated newsgroup moderator (which would make either the list moderator redundant, or the newsgroup moderator pointless). I do prefer an e-mail based list. TB! already has the capability to thread messages so reading isn't a problem. The readers can participate using TB!. In fact, the only problem is bandwidth, but I think the advantages outweigh this disadvantage. I do agree. I can understand why people can see a newsgroup being a good idea, if they suffer bandwidth limitations, or even time limitations. One big disadvantage for me would be that I'd have to check the news server regularly and I'd have to put up with Gravity if I wanted to prevent this. Argh! Don't forget that participants would have to find a news reader and learn how to use it when they're already learning to use TB!. It just seems wrong to put TB! aside to read a discussion list about it. Understood. I can see the ideas of not using TB! to read about TB!... kind of defeats the whole purpose of TB! in general. While I doubt that I'd be gone if a newsgroup were to be started, I don't particularly agree with it though it's a free world of course and anyone who wishes to start a news group can do so as was done with these groups. :-) As my original idea said... it'd not replace the mail list... in fact it'll just be the mail list, but passed onto a news server. Any posts that hit the lists, get dropped into the news server, and any news postings get posted back to the list. There'd be no change in bandwidth usage for list owner (after all, it acts just like another email address), and the news server will sustain the same amount of data as the list. I'd be happy to look into it *only* if there is enough interest in the idea... and based on what a lot of you guys seem to be saying, there appears to be very little interest in it. I'm looking into a similar system for the company I work for, we'll be setting up our help list into a news server, while maintaining the mail list. So I'm already going to be halfway in the area of what I mentioned. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Storing Sent Mail
Hi, I've been using The Bat! for a couple of days now, and very impressive it is too! However there is one feature from my (now ex) favorite mail client, VA, that I'm missing. VA would store an outgoing reply in the same folder as the original message. This meant that the conversation threads nicely for you. However, The Bat! will insist on storing outgoing mail in Sent Mail. As a big mail threading fan I don't like this much. What I would like is for any replies to be placed in the folder that contains the original. Why not use filters I hear you cry? Well, for some of my mail I have done this by moving outgoing messages to the Inbox, and letting my incoming rules sort the mail. Unfortunately some of my mail has to be sorted by hand, so any replies will sit in my Inbox until I manually sort those as well. Anybody know how I might achieve this, with filters or options I might have missed? I did a quick search of the list archives but found nothing (apologies if I've just missed them). Thanks, Graeme. -- Graeme J Hosking [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 1.60m Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote... Ähem, sorry to interrupt, but ... where would be the advantage? It sounds a bit like adding two things together so there respective disadvantages would sum up.* The advantage would be for the end reader. They can then choose if they want to get 100 or so emails every day, and use bandwidth, or go grab the headers of the news server, and decide which threads to read. This (IIRC) was the original idea. *Seldom, if ever, it is the advantages that add up. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: [OT] mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
DH Hmm, isn't there a PC-emulator for MacOS X? I know there have been two DH or three for the old MacOS (up to 9). And X is based upon the core of DH NextStep ... OOo or I could VNC over to the PC. . . through the firewall. . . then hook it up through ssh to be super secure and. . . Just port the bloody thing! ;-/ - William Eggington -- http://www.eggington.net - Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Storing Sent Mail
Hello Graeme. At 10:13 AM on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 you wrote the following about [Storing Sent Mail]: Graeme [...] The Bat! will insist on storing outgoing mail Graeme in Sent Mail. [/...] Actually The Bat! insists on very little as it is so completely customizable. By default TB! sends msgs to Sent Mail but you might also have TB! filter your sent mail for headers send them back to their original folders. And just to be safe, you can have TB! send all your outgoing mail to a backup text file on some other medium beyond your HD. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60c/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Csaba, On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:55:23 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 14:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: CK For me connection is not a problem, so IMAP could work very well here. CK Do you know if it is planned that BAT will be developed toward IMAP in CK the future? I'm a user, just like you. So I haven't any idea where RITlabs wants to go with TB. But the setup of TB is such that IMNSHO it doesn't make much sense to have much emphasis on IMAP. TB is about collecting mail and processing it automatically into folders, responders, etc. To do so effectively with IMAP you'd need to copy every filter to every copy of TB, otherwise their use would be fairly limited. With IMAP you need to do the processing on the server and the only thing you need a mua for is to access the processed mail and some manual operations. That is if you want to process the mail consistently. Therefor it would be a waste of resources to develop the IMAP of TB any further. The advantage to process the same mail twice (via POP3) at two locations (home and office) is that your interests at both places may differ strongly. So it would make sense to use two different sets of filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Storing Sent Mail
Hello Graeme, On Wed, 22 May 2002 15:13:21 +0100GMT (22-5-02, 16:13 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: GJH VA would store an outgoing reply in the same folder as the original GJH Why not use filters I hear you cry? Well, for some of my mail I have You could play with folder identities and filter on the peculiars of those. Set the Reply-To name from one of your folders to Graeme J. Hosking and you'll have an incoming and an outgoing filter for that folder, your replies can be filtered and as a bonus return replies are addressed to that name, so you can filter them straightaway to the correct folder. I realize of course that without some coding 'Graeme J Hosking (aa12)' you're soon out of options, but it'll work both ways. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Link catching, was Re: Cookies wanted!
Hey Krister, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal to write the following on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 7:17:08 AM. KE Hi Tim, It so happened that On Tue, 21 May 2002, at 15:00:14 [GMT KE -0400] (which was 21:00 in my corner of the world) ,you typed: TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random TM or just TM http://www.taglinesgalore.com/ KE You know, it's at times like these that i wish that the bat had a KE feature to save urls in favorites or a special file or whatever, so KE that one didn't have to save a whole message just to extract an url. KE One could even make this a plug-in so that those who wanted it could have KE it and those who didn't want it could just select not to DL the KE plug-in. I wished for that too, then came SmartBat! F6 to open, Ctrl-N and point it to a .txt file you want to have handy to store your URL's in. Now you have SmartBat with a tab at the bottom just for your URL's! BTW, the link I put in above took just a few seconds to find at Google.com, I didn't know it before looking there. However, as Csaba Kiss mentioned in another message, I was not very impressed with the taglines there. I like to grab the ones I find appropriate or amusing from other eMails that come in - ie. build your own. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60k (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) May I please be excused? My Brain is full. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Storing Sent Mail
Jan, By default TB! sends msgs to Sent Mail but you might also have TB! filter your sent mail for headers send them back to their original folders. Yes, I kind of guessed that I would probably have to build some filters to do what I want. I was just hoping that I had missed a wonder-button that did it all for me. :) -- Graeme J Hosking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Dispatch matched mail on server?
Hi, I'm trying to make a filter, so that if mail is sent to a certain alias, it downloads the mail, and deletes it from the server, while leaving the rest of the mail on the server. I've tried using a selective download, and that either deletes the mail from the server, or just ignores the mail all together. Is it possible? Or do I have to use the dispatcher to do this kind of thing? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Storing Sent Mail
Roelof, I realize of course that without some coding 'Graeme J Hosking (aa12)' you're soon out of options, but it'll work both ways. Could a message header not be created by a template that contains a unique code for each folder? I've looked through the macros a little and there does not seem to be an obvious (to me, that is) way of adding custom headers in a template. The only viable alternative to a custom header that I could see was to hi-jack the comment header for this purpose. Would this be a disgraceful abuse of such a header? I don't honestly think I've seen a mail client that uses this header, but I'm no mail expert. -- Graeme J Hosking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: This is not a poll of course but, for the record, I don't think a newsgroup would offer any serious advantage over the mailing list format; unless one considers the bandwidth, as already pointed out. Personally I find newsgroups much easier to browse than mailing lists, and weren't there plans to make TB into a news client as well in version 2...? -- Tim Fountain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.tfountain.co.uk/ Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
Hello... I have ran TheBat! for years now and have never ever had any issues like the ones people post here. I know that means nothing to those that do seem to have issues, but I just fail to understand how you all run into these problems. I have used TheBat! on Win95, Win98, Win98se, Win2kPro, Win2kServer, WinXP. I have used many many versions, Beta and release. I've updated, installed new, dragged my mail folder back to new setups.. Everything goes smooth. Never had any issues. Anyway, thanks again for a great product. Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 7:49:48 PM, you wrote: JS What am I doing wrong?? Ready to go back to FREE no hastle Outlook Express. JS Everything on the Bat! seems to be endless agony... 200 or so problem postings per JS day to the List... or is it just me?? - -- Greg S. Wirth System Administrator Anchorage, Alaska http://rapidfx.com http://rapidfx.org http://dejapc.com IpFilter // FreeBSD // Apache Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: [OT] mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
Hello William, On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 5:38:52 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): WE Just port the bloody thing! ;-/ with a little luck ... some day in the future this wish could come true. I know from MAx that, _in general_, there are still plans to port it to Linux ... no timetable, no version information, no information what functions exactly will be there, etc. etc. etc ... only the idea and the wish at RITLabs side to do so ... If they succeeded there _might_ ... eventually! ... follow a port to MacOS-X, as it's BSD-based any maybe Kylix will be running on BSD than too ... who knows :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) World War IV will be fought with stick and stones. - Albert Einstein Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Dispatch matched mail on server?
Hello Jonathan, On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 6:15:25 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): JA I'm trying to make a filter, so that if mail is sent to a certain JA alias, it downloads the mail, and deletes it from the server, while JA leaving the rest of the mail on the server. I've tried using a JA selective download, and that either deletes the mail from the server, JA or just ignores the mail all together. JA Is it possible? Or do I have to use the dispatcher to do this kind of JA thing? Set up the account to leave mail on server, set up a filter that matches only these certain mails to that alias and when editing the filter in sorting office there's at the 'Actions' tab, when you scroll down, an option 'Delete the message from the server' ... This should be what you're looking for ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) May the Farce be with you! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
Hello Peter, 22. maj 2002, 19:01:12, you wrote: PP If they succeeded there _might_ ... eventually! ... follow a port to PP MacOS-X, as it's BSD-based any maybe Kylix will be running on BSD than too PP ... who knows :-) Kylix does run on Linux, but only on i386... Also, Kylix 1 (I don't know about Kylix 2) was a plain Windows application, running under WINE on linux :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] When team members are finally in a position to help the team, it turns out they have quit the team. -- Evans's Law of Politics Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Killfile
TheBat seems absent a Kill File. The closest thing I could find I was looking at Advanced Filtering, Header. Try to copy and paste an address there. (The drop down menu doesn't seem to fill in header from the current email.) But note, it has only IS and CONTAINS! No NOT. So there you have the opposite of a Kill File. Did I miss anything? Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
Hello Jernej, On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 7:14:09 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): JS Kylix does run on Linux, but only on i386... Also, Kylix 1 (I don't JS know about Kylix 2) was a plain Windows application, running under JS WINE on linux :) That's why I wrote: PP any maybe Kylix will be running on BSD than too what of course should have been: PP any maybe Kylix will be running on BSD thEn too ^ Sorry ... sometimes my English vocabulary mixes up :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) A man needs a mistress, just to break the monogamy. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Changing Account Parameters Quickly
I frequently change my account parameters because I often use SSH as my l4 tunnel to retrieve email and effect intranet access. I find it, however, cumbersome to have to go into my account properties to change the account parameters for several accounts everytime. Needless to say, I am interested in figuring a way to do this a little more seamlessly which leads me to the question: Is there a file I can manipulate to make this change quickly? Or can I set the parameters and name that config file normal and then change the account settings and then rename the config file to on-ssh, so everytime I want to change settings I can just run a batch file to copy one of the two files to the config file? Thanks. -- Best regards, Peter Using The Bat! version 1.60m (www.ritlabs.com) on Windows XP Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto-Wrapping Question
Hey Chris, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal to write the following on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 1:29:33 PM. CM When editing a message initially with Auto-Wrap turned on, text CM wraps fine. But if I then add more words to a line, it extends CM beyond the original column setting where wrapping normally occurs. CM I can't figure out how to re-wrap the added text. Is there a way CM to re-format lines so that they auto-wrap after text is added? Alt-L -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60k (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Smile, it's the second best thing you can do with your lips. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Link catching, was Re: Cookies wanted!
Hi Tim, It so happened that On Wed, 22 May 2002, at 11:59:10 [GMT -0400] (which was 17:59 in my corner of the world) ,you typed: TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal And you know what, your MUA was right!:-) KE You know, it's at times like these that i wish that the bat had a KE feature to save urls in favorites or a special file or whatever, so KE that one didn't have to save a whole message just to extract an url. KE One could even make this a plug-in so that those who wanted it could have KE it and those who didn't want it could just select not to DL the KE plug-in. TM I wished for that too, then came SmartBat! TM F6 to open, Ctrl-N and point it to a .txt file you want to have handy TM to store your URL's in. Now you have SmartBat with a tab at the TM bottom just for your URL's! But smartbat doesn't make those urls clickable, or does it? If so, I really have to test it out even more. Second wish for today, I really wish there was a help file or such for SB so that one could learn more about it. It looks really great. I wonder if one could have it act like a tag line stealer? Yes, you probably could. -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.60m, on Windows 98 4 10 build Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 6:50:38 PM, you wrote: R Hello... R I have ran TheBat! for years now and have never ever had any issues R like the ones people post here. R I know that means nothing to those that do seem to have issues, but R I just fail to understand how you all run into these problems. I have R used TheBat! on Win95, Win98, Win98se, Win2kPro, Win2kServer, WinXP. R I have used many many versions, Beta and release. R I've updated, installed new, dragged my mail folder back to new R setups.. Everything goes smooth. R Never had any issues. Hi RapidFX, and your point being that ..? -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- E. coli Happens Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Trash folder: Incompatible options?!
Hello Dierk, BTW, there is a problem with these options. As long as they are mutually exclusive there should be a way to prevent users choosing them. You are right, but no program is 100% perfect :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB 160m readme
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 20:28, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hmmm, isn't the TbBeta list still around? At least when I used TB before, you could find out what was going on there. You could until the initial release of 1.60. Since then RIT have been almost completely silent even there. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Storing Sent Mail
Hello Graeme, On Wed, 22 May 2002 17:05:03 +0100GMT (22-5-02, 18:05 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: I realize of course that without some coding 'Graeme J Hosking (aa12)' you're soon out of options, but it'll work both ways. GJH Could a message header not be created by a template that GJH contains a unique code for each folder? I've looked through the GJH The only viable alternative to a custom header that I could see was GJH to hi-jack the comment header for this purpose. Yes, you could use the comment header by means of a folder template. But folder templates won't be used in a message when it's directed to somebody for whom you've defined a address book template (or when he's a member of a group that has it's own templates). That's why I mentioned the folder-identity and not the folder template. GJH Would this be a disgraceful abuse of such a header? No, it's a comment header and that comment doesn't have to make sense to the addressee. Take care that you won't use comments like 'twits' for the folder of the same name. The recipient might be offended. ;-) GJH I don't honestly think I've seen a mail client that uses this GJH header, but I'm no mail expert. There are more clients that support it, but it has no real function except than saying: 'See how smart I am, sending you a message outside the text.' -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Changing Account Parameters Quickly
Hello Peter, On Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 7:57:05 PM you wrote (at least in part): PC Is there a file I can manipulate to make this change PC quickly? No. It's not Plain text but some binary storage format. PC Or can I set the parameters and name that config file PC normal and then change the account settings and then rename the PC config file to on-ssh, so everytime I want to change PC settings I can just run a batch file to copy one of the two PC files to the config file? Yes. Should be file 'ACCOUNT.CFG' you'll need to copy. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60m on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Large dogs make larger turds than little ones. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 8:25:14 PM, you wrote: R Hello... R If you can't figure it out from my post I was just wondering if you were saying we are all dumbo's who don't get it, or that you are just incredibly smart. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Ha! Thrust! --Daffy Duck Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
Now, A filter is something similar sorta, but definitely not the same. It Moves mail elsewhere. But decided to check it out. Very hard to figure out how to copy a message, instead of Move. But it was there. Once I set the folder to Copy to, I found Bat had changed the folder to Move to to the same thing! So, bug if you want to move and copy. And if you just want to copy, I'm not sure how to stop the Move. Oh, and the Copies were marked as read though it was indicated not to do so. A killfile prevents showing some messages a server or mailbox contains. If we don't find it now, how much interest is there? :-) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:24:02 PM: I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient -- Pete Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:34:47 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60m Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Thomas F wrote: Hello Adam, On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:39:49 -0400 (EDT) GMT (23/05/02, 01:39 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A TheBat seems absent a Kill File. The closest thing I could find I was A looking at Advanced Filtering, Header. Try to copy and paste an address A there. (The drop down menu doesn't seem to fill in header from the A current email.) But note, it has only IS and CONTAINS! No NOT. So there A you have the opposite of a Kill File. Did I miss anything? The Bat Word for Header is Kludges. Thanks. If you mean by Kill File that certain strings in the header should trigger a deletion of the mail, use Present in Kludges: Yes, filter to Trash, and Mark Message as Read. In the above, remember, I'm looking at View/Display Advanced Filtering. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Wishlist for filtering
Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:38:48 PM: DE how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. So you mean to tell me if I create a rule that if I am in the CC:, I can have it trashed immediately? -- Pete Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:45:49 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60m Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hello Roelof, You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat
Hello Ricardo M. Reyes, On Wednesday, May 22 2002 at 12:32 PM PDT, you wrote: Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it. No, you are clear. That was also one of my complaints with this 'SmartBat' thing, and no... I was not prepared to hit the 'Enter' Key to start on a new line. As you mentioned in your Posting, SmartBat was heralded to be a open and type application. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 9:38:48 PM, you wrote: DE how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. Hi David, I don't think you need to be a regex expert but it needs some adjustment. CC: your name will not catch it if you are the second or third cc'ed person. So I think it would work better if you did: Your name - recipient - NO Your name - kludes- Yes I wonder if this would catch BCC's. Hope this helps -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- There are three kinds of death in this world. There's heart death, there's brain death, and there's being off the network. -- Guy Almes Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Pete, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:35:48 -0600GMT (22-5-02, 21:35 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PM I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I PM haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your PM name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient Check for this in the kludges: \ncc:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enable the regular expression option at the options tab. (I did it, I posted a regexp filter and really expect it to work. g) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. It should, if you use the email address instead of the name. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the 'terminal'? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:53 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. This would catch neither bcc's nor cc's, since cc's are counted as recipients and bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part of them being blind. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 22 May 2002 22:13:32 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 03:13 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part RO of them being blind. Hmm. How do they find you then? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN Cops have nothing to go on. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Wishlist for filtering
Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 2:06:56 PM: RO The above filter only works when you're the only cc-recipient. I am glad of that because you lost me on your first suggestion! FYI, I am only 1 month into The Bat! ;o) -- Pete Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:26:50 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60m Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor issue
Hello Allie You wrote On Wed, 22 May 2002, at 06:36:41 [GMT -0500] (21:36:41 Wednesday, 22 May 2002 where I live):- I'm not saying that TB!'s editor is perfect either, but there's a lot to it that isn't initially appreciated. Just a short note to thank all who replied - think I am on top of it now (I hope!) -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Using Bat! 1.60m - Being used by Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram * REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N) Delivered using the Free Personal Edition of Mailtraq (www.mailtraq.com) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:13:32 PM, you wrote: RO Hello Gerard, RO On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:53 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. RO This would catch neither bcc's nor cc's, since cc's are counted as RO recipients and bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the RO whole part of them being blind. Hi Roelof, I have tried it and yes your right if your email address is in the cc's it is caught by the recipient selection in the filter. Maybe this isn't a bug but at least I would call it a bad implementation. As for BCC's not showing up in the kludges, have a look, it's there. Sometimes even more then once but not in a nice need box like to: or from: -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- This document describes the usage and input syntax of the Unix Vax-11 assembler As. As is designed for assembling code produced by the C compiler; certain concessions have been made to handle code written directly by people, but in general little sympathy has been extended. -- Berkeley Vax/Unix Assembler Reference Manual (1983) Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:08:02 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Gerard, TF On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:53:46 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 02:53 +0700 GMT), TF Gerard wrote: G Your name - recipient - NO G Your name - kludes- Yes G I wonder if this would catch BCC's. TF It should, if you use the email address instead of the name. Hi Thomas, Yes that's what I meant with your name. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8 m/sec/sec. -- Marcus Dolengo Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 23 May 2002 03:21:14 +0700GMT (22-5-02, 22:21 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO bcc's aren't found in the receiving kludges, that's the whole part RO of them being blind. TF Hmm. How do they find you then? They're in the smtp-envelope, but that's not something that every ISP includes in the message when storing it as POP3 (though some do) BTW I didn't receive you bcc. g,dr -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: New Version updates... 1.60m... Groan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerard [G] wrote: ... G I was just wondering if you were saying we are all dumbo's who G don't get it, or that you are just incredibly smart. A sensitive and frustrated user with TB! problems may think he meant this but I'm sure he didn't. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87AVNV8nrYCsHF+IRAkLkAKDcsXXgE4sB0oQLWPcJ27B7LDKB7gCgjtnC erYvJ3uoomu4jTZ/yqbiCW8= =kpgf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Filter required to download only mail from originators in addressbook.
Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It depends on what the proportion of spam/good messages you actually receive. Prior to joining TBUDL my spam/good ratio was 10 to 1. Admittedly, the total download was not great but why should I spend good money downloading other people's trash. Its the principle of the thing that matters not the economics. My thanks to all the other contributors to the question. -- Stuart Webb Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam [A] wrote: ... A Now, A filter is something similar sorta, but definitely not the A same. It Moves mail elsewhere. It doesn't have to move the message. It doesn't if you make the source and 'move messages to folder' folders the same. A But decided to check it out. Very hard to figure out how to copy a A message, instead of Move. In the filter rule configuration, make the source and 'move messages to folder' folders the same. Then go to the 'Actions' tab and use the 'create a copy of the message in another folder' option. You have to scroll down the Action list to find the option. A ... Oh, and the Copies were marked as read though it was indicated A not to do so. I just tried it and messages are not marked if not indicated. A A killfile prevents showing some messages a server or mailbox A contains. That's a newsreader concept where only headers are downloaded and you wish not to display headers for those you kill-filed. A If we don't find it now, how much interest is there? :-) You have to either create filters to delete the messages when downloaded or use selective download filters to delete the offending messages at the server level. Note however, that you'll have to download all message headers, check them with the selective download filters and then download the final lot. This could potentially be not very cost effective especially if you're deleting only a few messages via these filters. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87AkjV8nrYCsHF+IRAjhHAJ9s+SxdMwIQvTJoiGdcHNQr7h45zACg4VNd SFLeJb8PZn/l1Ayt2wszv68= =n+RB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:52:49 PM, you wrote: JA Why do you say that? Are the people in the CC also not recipients of JA the email? It depend on your interpretation. The CC's receive the mail but it is not directed at them specificly. I would like a CC option next to recipient in the filters because it's a separate header. JA As for the BCC not matching, it shouldn't. The JA servers/mail client don't add a recipient tag (like To/CC), but it has JA a Received: For bcc'd address line in the headers. That's what I expected. 1 out of 2 right. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Ha! Thrust! --Daffy Duck Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam [A] wrote: ... A TheBat seems absent a Kill File. The closest thing I could find I A was looking at Advanced Filtering, Header. Try to copy and paste an A address there. (The drop down menu doesn't seem to fill in header A from the current email.) But note, it has only IS and CONTAINS! No A NOT. So there you have the opposite of a Kill File. Did I miss A anything? The advanced filtering is for the message list. It is used to filter what the message list displays without actually deleting messages. Another of TB!'s nice features. It's certainly not a kill-filter system. You need to visit the sorting office filters for this. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87AZiV8nrYCsHF+IRAnB7AJ96F4l+50Ua6G+k0owSShchJ1KBegCfRY8h tog4oc2c3DSE1qxSWv+g21g= =sbYG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Wishlist for filtering
Replying to your message of Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 2:46:14 PM: I created the rule as stated (\ncc:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] kludges and Regexp)...thank you. You see my reasoning for this rule is that anything that comes in with my name in CC:, gets ditched. I don't do CC: but I do BC:. Thanks again! -- Pete Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:51:08 PM This e-mail is brought to you by: The Bat: Version 1.60m Windows 2000 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Dear Roelof, Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 10:16:19 PM you wrote: RO I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with RO TB. How complicated? I would like to explain :-) - How do you make a smiley with waving eyelashes? -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Do you like scary movies? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hello Miguel, On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:52:29 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 21:52 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... MAU I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) So do I. That's the point. I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with TB. (Yes, I consider installing a server as a complicated thing an way to difficult for somebody who 'only wants to read e-mail') -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Auto-Wrapping Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @22 May 2002, 14:07:03 -0400 (19:07 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CM When editing a message initially with Auto-Wrap turned on, text CM wraps fine. But if I then add more words to a line, it extends CM beyond the original column setting where wrapping normally CM occurs. I can't figure out how to re-wrap the added text. Is CM there a way to re-format lines so that they auto-wrap after text CM is added? Alt-L ... to manually reformat the paragraph or (temporarily) toggle on auto-format with Ctrl-Shift-F. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt build 08 iQA/AwUBPOwGODnkJKuSnc2gEQI6PQCg9eIn2JkPiK8De3HWcg+7BzBSwOYAmgOz DJorRuEiSXkMKwFJnP7Y/Ddj =d1DJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
Hello Pete, On Wed, 22 May 2002 13:46:56 -0600GMT (22-5-02, 21:46 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: DE how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. PM So you mean to tell me if I create a rule that if I am in the CC:, I PM can have it trashed immediately? Or saved for your grandchildren. ;-) The above filter only works when you're the only cc-recipient. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wishlist for filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail Pete On 22 May 2002 at 13:35:48 -0600 (which was 20:35 where I live) Pete Milne wrote and made these points I have another thought for filtering. Maybe this can be covered but I haven't found how. Why isn't there and option to create a rule when your name is in the CC box? All I find is when you are the recipient how about [CC: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]] in the kludge. (Regexp expert could improve it) - -- TTFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Death, be not proud.| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE86/PK+Yrx5mUPRTQRAsBmAKCkyfbE6r9+2HxYmsvxJe8rTSp33QCg8u8v LrT8HPRbGWM5HuI1UBZwt98= =t5a+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
Hello Adam, On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:39:49 -0400 (EDT) GMT (23/05/02, 01:39 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A TheBat seems absent a Kill File. The closest thing I could find I was A looking at Advanced Filtering, Header. Try to copy and paste an address A there. (The drop down menu doesn't seem to fill in header from the A current email.) But note, it has only IS and CONTAINS! No NOT. So there A you have the opposite of a Kill File. Did I miss anything? The Bat Word for Header is Kludges. If you mean by Kill File that certain strings in the header should trigger a deletion of the mail, use Present in Kludges: Yes, filter to Trash, and Mark Message as Read. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Changing Account Parameters Quickly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter On 22 May 2002 at 10:57:05 -0700 (which was 18:57 where I live) Peter Chiou might have written I frequently change my account parameters because I often use SSH as my l4 tunnel to retrieve email and effect intranet access. Sorry for my ignorance but which ones are you changing? Just for info there is an file called account.cfg I think that is where the account information stored. I would not recommend adjusting it by hand with out testing it out first. - -- Thank you for your time, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Convert your Pentium into a Game Boy--run Windows! | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE86/FE+Yrx5mUPRTQRAk70AKDyFc2h1KEe1VJDc+U1ORKO5d7qiwCfcuAw BLt0orhRR3hatFeoasqysrw= =VFsA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Auto-format and Smart Bat
yesterday I started to use Auto-Format and since then I notice that the Smart Bat uses it also, although it's not checked in it's utilities menu. I don't mind that the auto format is ON in the smart bat, but the problem is that if I open it and type write away, the new text magically goes to the end of the previous line (the one with the dashes and the time) and it get's REALLY annoying. It takes way the advantage of the smart bat of open and write Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it. Is there any way to have independent settings between the message editor and the smart bat? I think I like the auto-format in the editor, but definitely not in the SB. -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Sorting and Navigation Issues
Hello TheBatUsers, As a new user to TB, I'm having a time trying to figure out how sorting and navigation work together. For example, I like to view messages by subject, but in a creation date/time ascending order. If I sort by subject in a folder, the creation date/times are in mixed order by their creation date/time. This creates havoc when reading thru a thread of messages with the same subject. What would really be nice is if we had the ability to do a sort on a second-level column, like Outlook allows. For example, I could then do a primary sort by subject, then a secondary sort by created date (ascending or descending). Is this already possible in TB and I'm just not seeing how to do it? Before anyone yells use Threading by reference!, I have and find it even more frustrating. Deleting a message or navigating to next or previous message using the toolbar buttons or shortcut keys seem to be an almost random experience. Messages in unrelated threads open. Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me? Another thing that would be nice is if when opening a message in a separate viewing window that window could then inherit the same display/sorting/threading views as the message list window. Any thoughts on that? In all, I'm finding TB to be a very good email client, but as someone mentioned in another post, it takes awhile for the new user to get used to its power and flexibility. There is a big learning curve and this list does a great job to supplement the marginal documentation. Cheers. -- Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
ON Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 7:54:49 PM, you wrote: GL You can add several email addresses to this kill file by entering GL the second and subsequent addresses in the Alternatives tab. Hi Geoff, Easier way to do this with a lot of email address is make a group in the address book and add all the email address there. Easy as right click- specials - add recipient to address book. You can filter against presence in this addressgroup in de advanced section of the filter. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Killfile
On 22 May 2002, 19:39, Adam wrote: TheBat seems absent a Kill File. The closest thing I could find I was looking at Advanced Filtering, Header. Try to copy and paste an address there. (The drop down menu doesn't seem to fill in header from the current email.) But note, it has only IS and CONTAINS! No NOT. So there you have the opposite of a Kill File. Did I miss anything? ~~~ I suspect that you've missed something because TB has the most powerful filtering of any MUA that I've encountered. If you're trying to create a filter that automatically sends messages from particular senders to Trash, try this: 1. From the Account menu, choose Sorting Office/Filters 2. Select Incoming Mail 3. Click New 4. Give the filter a name (e.g. KillFile) 5. In Move message to folder, enter the Trash folder 6. Set up the filter so that the Strings=the sender's email address; Location=Sender; Presence=Yes 7. Click the Actions tab, then click Mark the message as read You can add several email addresses to this kill file by entering the second and subsequent addresses in the Alternatives tab. Also, check through the list of actions that you can perform -- you'll see that you can also delete the message and a whole lot more. Hint: You can scroll down most of the tabs of the Sorting Office to get at a wealth of options. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Winamp currently playing The Cardigans - Lovefool Keyboard not connected. Think F1 to continue. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote... Kylix does run on Linux, but only on i386... Also, Kylix 1 (I don't know about Kylix 2) was a plain Windows application, running under WINE on linux :) Kylix 2 doesn't use wine... has it's own setup, and develops cross-operating system applications. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
Hello Clive, (If only there were kill-file/ignore options a la VA). Yes, I miss VA's Ignore option :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
