Re: Subscribe to TBTECH how-to (was Re: Sender's Info in Quotation)

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Alec,

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:38:20 -0400 GMT (Sep 08, 09:23 my local time),
you wrote:

 I was trying to subscribe to the TBTECH list. I found instructions
 saying to send a blank mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you still can't join, it may as well be a problem associated with
recent change in lists server. In this case I suggest you contact the
moderators at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is the TBTECH list by invitation only or am I doing something
 wrong?

No, it's a open subscription.

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Re[2]: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 08:39:21 [GMT +0545] (which was 03:54 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:




SP Hi Pete,

SP On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:02:24 -0600 GMT (Sep 08, 05:47 my local time),
SP you [PM] wrote:

PM Will I have any issues with TB! when I switch my data over from
PM W2K to XP Pro?

SP I don't know about switch from W2K in particular but when I migrated
SP from Win98 to WinXP, the menu navigation button (otherwise located in
SP the upper right corner of task bar) disappeared. I reckon TB! can't
SP display the button under XP...


Thats due to XP themes. Turn these off (Classic windows) and it will
appear. However I dont see it as a major problem not having this once
you are used to the Menu Structure.

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Clive Taylor

08 September 2002, 04:22, you wrote:

PM I assume the correct way would be to backup my data, install TB! on XP then
PM restore my data??

That's just the way I did it using TB's backup utility. When the data
was restored, I opened the registration confirmation email from Ritlabs
I had parked on my old data base and re-registered my copy.

Up and running in under five minutes -- and (apart from the speed on
my new machine) wouldn't know the difference.

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Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted

2002-09-08 Thread Gerard


ON Friday, September 6, 2002, 10:26:53 PM, you wrote:

MB It happened again today with a corrupted .DOC (word document) file.
MB Tried openning the file from within TB!  Tried saving to desktop and
MB openning from there.  Wouldn't work.  I forwared the corrupt file to
MB myself (different email address... same computer and same copy of TB!)
MB and it openned fine - no reboots, nothing - original attachment will
MB still not open.

Hi Mark,
   What your describing should be impossible except for the fact that
   there might be a difference in handling the attachements between
   accounts.

   The only thing I can think of is that the encoding of the attachment
   you received originally s not compatible with TB! and when you sent
   it to an other email address it is somehow encoded into a different
   system.

   I am assuming that you do not have local delivery activated under
   Options|networkadmin|allow local delivery.

   Could you try to do it again with this option activated. It should
   then fail to open the attachment in the other email account.

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AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Jim Lanyon

Hello ,

  Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
  would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
  cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
  checker would be gratefully received.

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Macro to flag messages

2002-09-08 Thread ZoZo666

I  send  mailings,  and keep in a special folder, all emails that have
been sent, as they contain specific informations.

When  I  receive replies, how could I automatically flag the message
where  the reply comes from ? So that I could easily see which message
has been replied, and which hasn't !

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Macro Library

2002-09-08 Thread Ravindra Maharaj

I'm not sure if people are using this valuable resource:
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

I'd just like to issue a call for anyone who has useful Macros to
upload them sometime.

Thanks.

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Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Richard Lane


Hello,

When I have The Bat running but minimized to the task bar and use I.E 6 to
browse web pages every so often an error message pops up.

Accesss violation at address 003D35EC. Read of address 003D35EC

The title bar just has the text The Bat!. I click on OK and everything
carries on fine. I'm running WinXP home with all MS critical updates
applied.

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OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Rob Mebus

  Utrecht/NL, 8-9-2002
Hi,

Just want you guys to know that Service Pack 1 for Windows XP is out.
It includes the possibility to really designate The Bat! (or any other
mail client) as the default e-mail program by disabling access to
Outlook Express.

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jim,

@8-Sep-2002, 10:54 Jim Lanyon [JL] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JL   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from
JL   OE).  I would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my
JL   E-mail and cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on
JL   another Virus checker would be gratefully received.

No need. AVG have a plug-in for The Bat! You can download the
plug-in separately here:

AVG: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe

Or simply install the latest AVG.

Once you have the plug-in, configure TB to use it under Options |
Virus protection and all will be better than perfect.

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Bradley

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:54:30 AM, you wrote:

 Hello ,

   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
   checker would be gratefully received.

I've got an AVG plugin for TB, I think I got it from the AVG home
page. I sometimes have a problem with TB not loading it at startup,
though I think this is because I just have too much trying to startup
with my computer and it can't cope!

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Michael,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:28:36 +0100 GMT (Sep 08, 13:13 my local time),
you [MT] wrote:

MT Thats due to XP themes. Turn these off (Classic windows) and it
MT will appear.

For some reason, it's not working.

MT However I dont see it as a major problem not having this once you
MT are used to the Menu Structure.

I agree that it's not a major problem but I'd like to use it to find
less frequented menu items among not so logical menu structure of TB!

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread William Moore

 Hello Pete

 Thank you for your email dated Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:02:24 AM, in which you 
wrote:

PM when I switch...from W2K to XP Pro
Why are you downgrading?  ;-)

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae Jim,
 
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 10:54:30 [GMT +0100] (or 10:54 in Wales)
regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote:

JL Hello ,

JL   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
JL   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
JL   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
JL   checker would be gratefully received.

Avg  do  provide a plug in from their website. Note however that the plugin does
not certify email messages - hence no adverts on your emails.

However it does full email checking and notification...

http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=3f43b5719b5a5a5bc16d3aed490da6c1

a

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Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello all,

A few days ago there was a thread about Colour Groups. Someone asked
for possible uses of them and got many replies and, IIRC, most of them
were quite satisfied with what they could do with Colour Groups.

I do use C.G. quite a bit but I am not 100% satisfied, I'll explain
why.

For me, the most important thing about C.G. are not the colours and
fonts that you can assign, which are nice, but the fact the you can
assign an attribute or category to messages and that these
categories can be tested and/or set from filters. I use this
quite a bit.

Why I am not 100% satisfied then? Because I can ONLY assign a
message to ONE group. If I define a number of groups A, B, C, etc.,
that are not mutually exclusive (for example For_Reply and
For_Reference) why can't I assign a message to more than one group?

Trying to look for a workaround for this limitation I thought about
using the Memo field. I can use some Keywords or characters to define
different categories and I can include as many of them as I wish in
the Memo. Great! Well, not really. It serves some purpose because I
can certainly Tools-Search the Memo field, but there is no way it can
be tested/set from filters :-(

Has anybody else found this to be a limitation of Colour Groups? Has
anybody found a workaround?

BTW, I think there is an inconsistency in the Search Tool. As I have
said, you can search the Memo field but ONLY if you tick Memo in the
Scope. If you tick Anywhere only, the Memo is not searched.

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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RE: AVG virus checker and TB
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings Jim,

On Sunday, September 8, 2002, 5:54:30 AM, you wrote:

Jim   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
Jim   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
Jim   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
Jim   checker would be gratefully received.

http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=296465338f9270b900a9372aeaf6e778

Hope this helps.

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Jim,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:54:30 +0100 (08/09/2002, 10:54 my time), 
you [JL] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

JL Hello ,

JL   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
JL   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
JL   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
JL   checker would be gratefully received.


http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Luc

 Good afternoon Jim,
  
It was foretold that on 8-9-2002  10:54:30 GMT+0100 (which was
11:54:30 where I live) Jim Lanyon spread these wise comments:
  
snipped a bit
JL I would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
JL cannot  find  a  way  to  do this. Help or advice on another Virus
JL checker would be gratefully received.

This will do the trick: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm

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Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Marck,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:20:03 +0100 (08/09/2002, 12:20 my time), 
you [MDP] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MDP Once you have the plug-in, configure TB to use it under Options |
MDP Virus protection and all will be better than perfect.

...I think perfect is a bit too far!  Where is TBs newgroup support?
What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command?  And what about
the transparent mail ticker support?

;)

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote:'

MT Thats due to XP themes. Turn these off (Classic windows) and it
MT will appear.

SP For some reason, it's not working.

Have you looked to see if it's enabled in your options?

Options/Preferences/General/Display MenuNavigator button on the
Caption Bar

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Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread pr1

Is it possible to force messages I receive to wrap at, say, 80 or 90 characters per 
line?
I'm spending more and more time every day having to Alt-L paragraphs in messages I 
reply
to or just read, especially from Hotmail, Yahoo , etc. accounts and it's incredibly
annoying. When I ask people to set up their email program or account properly most 
don't
bother... All this wastes a lot of my time!

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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Richard,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:05:20 PM, you wrote:


RL Accesss violation at address 003D35EC. Read of address 003D35EC

RL The title bar just has the text The Bat!. I click on OK and everything
RL carries on fine. I'm running WinXP home with all MS critical updates
RL applied.

Hapens also with W2000




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Re: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Rob,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:06:42 PM, you wrote:

RM Just want you guys to know that Service Pack 1 for Windows XP is out.

Where did you find it?
According to MSDN site is due for tomorrow.




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Re: Macro to flag messages

2002-09-08 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello ZoZo666,

 I  send  mailings,  and keep in a special folder, all emails that have
 been sent, as they contain specific informations.

 When  I  receive replies, how could I automatically flag the message
 where  the reply comes from ? So that I could easily see which message
 has been replied, and which hasn't !

Assuming you can easily get the replies to the same folder (i.e. by
filtering) then I would suggest View-View thread by-References or
Subject.

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Re: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Rob,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:06:42 +0200 GMT (Sep 08, 16:51 my local time),
you [RM] wrote:

RM It includes the possibility to really designate The Bat! (or any
RM other mail client) as the default e-mail program by disabling
RM access to Outlook Express.

Hmmm... perhaps the outcome of Microsoft's Antitrust law suit? :))

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Roland Burger

Hi Jim,

on Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:54:30 +0100 GMT (which was Sunday, September 8,
2002, 11:54 where I live) Jim Lanyon wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others:

   Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE).  I
   would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and
   cannot find a way to do this.  Help or advice on another Virus
   checker would be gratefully received.

Please see: 
http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=1c9fdc91bb5dad619cff8db73aad75e6

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Re: Macro to flag messages

2002-09-08 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo ZoZo666,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:58:58 +0400GMT (8-9-02, 11:58 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

Z When I receive replies, how could I automatically flag the
Z message where the reply comes from ? So that I could easily see
Z which message has been replied, and which hasn't !

Filter the replies into the same folder as your mailings. Since
clients use the In-Reply-To and/or the Refences headers, you can set
the view of that folder as view threads by references. Replied
messages will be the beginning of a thread and will have a plus-sign.

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Re[2]: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Pete Milne



Replying to your message of Sunday, September 8, 2002, 5:31:25 AM:

WM Why are you downgrading?

Wellummm.that is an issue as well.  I am not totally sure I will do
this, just lining up my ducks.

Before we get moved to TBOT, tell me why you think it would be a downgrade,
trust me...I am all ears!

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Ben!

On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 2:29:52 PM you wrote:

 ...I think perfect is a bit too far!  Where is TBs newgroup support?

No. TB! is an e-mail client, *not* a newsreader.

 What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command?

Expansion is supported; only collapsing is a bit awkward.

 And what about the transparent mail ticker support?

What for?



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Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello List,

On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 2:36:05 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (at
least in part):

 Is it possible to force messages I receive to wrap at, say, 80 or 90
 characters per line?

First the answer: no.

I've submitted a 'feature request' for v2+ for having an option like
XNews has: Alt+L working in 'Viewer' too.

 I'm spending more and more time every day having to Alt-L paragraphs
 in messages I reply to or just read, especially from Hotmail, Yahoo
 , etc. accounts and it's incredibly annoying.

You'd be a good model if you'd have set up your installation to
respect the common used values too.
90 characters ain't that widely used, 70-78 is quite more common.
Next is to avoid white spaces in front of punctuation, that avoids
results like in the former shown paragraph, last line, when rewrapping
is done.

 When I ask people to set up their email program or account properly
 most don't bother... All this wastes a lot of my time!

Than don't rewrap. Send them their stuff as it is received at your
side.
Or use a re-wrap macro as for example given here:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ben,

@8-Sep-2002, 13:29 Ben Kennish [BK] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP ... all will be better than perfect.

BK ...I think perfect is a bit too far!  Where is TBs newgroup
BK support? What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command?
BK And what about the transparent mail ticker support?

BK ;)

Okay, okay! I was only referring to the virus protection side of
things g.

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Allie,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 07:32:30 -0500 GMT (Sep 08, 18:17 my local time),
you wrote:

 Have you looked to see if it's enabled in your options?

Yes. Still not working !!

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Re: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Richard Lane

Hello Luigi,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:55:01 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Rob,

 Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:06:42 PM, you wrote:

RM Just want you guys to know that Service Pack 1 for Windows XP is out.

 Where did you find it?
 According to MSDN site is due for tomorrow.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/SP/SP1/WXP/en-us/xpsp1_en_x86.exe

But I didn't tell you that. :)



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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Richard Lane

Hello Luigi,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:51:24 PM, you wrote:

RL Accesss violation at address 003D35EC. Read of address 003D35EC

RL The title bar just has the text The Bat!. I click on OK and everything
RL carries on fine. I'm running WinXP home with all MS critical updates
RL applied.

 Hapens also with W2000

Glad to know it's not just me. I must admit I've seen more odd happenings in
the latest releases of TB, so much so that I'm tempted to go back to and old
version if I can find one. Up until recently TB was 100% rock solid, now it
doesn't seem to take much to get it to fall over in some way.

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Re[2]: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Pete Milne



Replying to your message of Sunday, September 8, 2002, 6:55:01 AM:


http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/SP/SP1/WXP/en-us/xpsp1_en_x86.exe

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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 13:58:51 [GMT +0200], Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU Trying to look for a workaround for this limitation I thought about
MAU using the Memo field. I can use some Keywords or characters to define
MAU different categories and I can include as many of them as I wish in
MAU the Memo. Great! Well, not really. It serves some purpose because I
MAU can certainly Tools-Search the Memo field, but there is no way it can
MAU be tested/set from filters :-(

MAU Has anybody else found this to be a limitation of Colour Groups? Has
MAU anybody found a workaround?

I don't find this to be a limitation of color groups, as only one
color attribute assigned to this class can be displayed at any one
time. I.E. it is meaningless to try to show the header information in
both blue and yellow at the same time. It seems to me that what you
really want is to be able to filter on multiple keyword attributes in
the Memo (or some other) field. This seems like a good idea to me

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Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:36:05 -0400, you wrote:

 Is it possible to force messages I receive to wrap at, say, 80 or 90
 characters per line? I'm spending more and more time every day having to Alt-L
 paragraphs in messages I reply to or just read, especially from Hotmail, Yahoo
 , etc. accounts and it's incredibly annoying. When I ask people to set up
 their email program or account properly most don't bother... All this wastes a
 lot of my time!

There was a recursive macro written by somebody either on here, or on TBTECH
that can sort it out during replying, but there isn't anything I think you can
do during viewing fo the mail unless they stop sending mail as HTML, and set a
line break of the specified length.

Try http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html for the recursive macro.  I
am having trouble connecting to it at the moment (Marck?) but that could just be
me.  As for the line lengths, just keep bugging them to change it, or be a real
pain so they know what their mail looks like, and unwrap your lines ;) (write
your email, then start going back, and deleting the CRs) ;)  Some would probably
start getting really annoyed with that... but that is me, I can be a real pain
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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae Ben,
 
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 13:29:52 [GMT +0100] (or 13:29 in Wales)
regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote:



BK ...I think perfect is a bit too far!  Where is TBs newgroup support?
BK What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command?  And what about
BK the transparent mail ticker support?

BK ;)

If  you  mean  wheres TB!'s newsgroup, then being a fequent user of newsgroups I
think its best it kept off it!!!

And  if  you  mean turning TB! into OE then ugghhh. Xnews is the best newsreader
for people used to TB! IMHO

a

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Ben,

on Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:29:52 +0100GMT (08.09.02, 14:29 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MDP Once you have the plug-in, configure TB to use it under Options |
MDP Virus protection and all will be better than perfect.

BK ...I think perfect is a bit too far!

I believe you didn't read the mail in the context. It was about the AVG
anti-virus plugin for The Bat!, not general features.

BK Where is TBs newgroup support?

I'd say TB! is an email client, not a newsreader. There are many good
newsreaders around, for cheap or free. ;-)

BK What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command?

Ctrl + * or - (numeric) ... ?

Have a good time. :-)

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Marck,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:20:03 +0100 GMT (Sep 08, 17:05 my local time),
you [MDP] wrote:

MDP Once you have the plug-in, configure TB to use it under Options |
MDP Virus protection and all will be better than perfect.

Marck, the AV test results of hackfix.org (with random trojans) seem
to suggest that AVG has rather low, 64% to be precise, detection rate.
Comparatively Kaspersky and NAV have 100 and 95 percent detection rate
respectively.

http://www.hackfix.org/miscfix/icons-av-A_M.shtml

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Haico

On 8-9-2002 at 14:32, Allie C Martin wrote:

Hi Allie,

I have this problem too.

MT Thats due to XP themes. Turn these off (Classic windows) and it
MT will appear.

SP For some reason, it's not working.

 Have you looked to see if it's enabled in your options?

 Options/Preferences/General/Display MenuNavigator button on the
 Caption Bar

I have XP themes turned off and the service for this isn't loaded.
Display MenuNavigator is enabled and I have never seen it.

Maybe there's something else which is bugging me? :-S

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Re[2]: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread John Thomas

Hello Luigi, 

On September 08, 2002, at 5:55 AM you [LR] wrote (at least in part):

LR Where did you find it? According to MSDN site is due for tomorrow.

http://premierdownload.microsoft.com/download/whistler/SP/SP1/WXP/EN-US/xpsp1_en_x86.exe

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Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread Thomas F.

Hello pr1,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:36:05 -0400 GMT (08/09/02, 19:36 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


puo Is it possible to force messages I receive to wrap at, say, 80 or
puo 90 characters per line? [...] When I ask people to set up their
puo email program or account properly most don't bother... All this
puo wastes a lot of my time!

How about a 5-kg sledgehammer, applied to their computers, for force? g

Seriously, try AutoFormat and AutoWrap in the editor's Utilities menu
header. Does that help?

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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Deborah W

On Sunday, September 8, 2002, 12:58:51 PM, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU Has anybody else found this to be a limitation of Colour Groups? Has
MAU anybody found a workaround?

I've never thought of it before, but now that you mention it, I think
the ability to assign more than one colour group to a message would
indeed be a good feature. I can't think of a workaround though.

Some of us are just never satisfied, are we? ;-)

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread William Moore

 Hello Pete

 Thank you for your email dated Sunday, September 8, 2002, 3:35:45 PM, in which you 
wrote:

PM tell me why you think it would be a downgrade

It was meant as a joke.

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae Pete,
 
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 08:35:45 [GMT -0600] (or 15:35 in Wales)
regarding 'W2K to XP Pro' you wrote:


PM Before  we get moved to TBOT, tell me why you think it would be a downgrade,
PM trust me...I am all ears!

XP's  been  right  as  rain  for me, in fact I don't know too many people having
problems with it...

Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it

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Re[2]: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Wojtek

Hello Luigi,

here's the download link for the english version:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/SP/SP1/WXP/en-us/xpsp1_en_x86.exe


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Sunday, September 8, 2002, 2:55:01 PM, you wrote:

LR Hello Rob,

LR Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:06:42 PM, you wrote:

RM Just want you guys to know that Service Pack 1 for Windows XP is out.

LR Where did you find it?
LR According to MSDN site is due for tomorrow.




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Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Jim Lanyon

Hello Adam,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 12:24:01 PM, you wrote:

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.




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Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Jim Lanyon

Hello Adam,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.



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Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Jim Lanyon

Hello Luc,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 12:52:47 PM, you wrote:

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.



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Re[2]: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Jim Lanyon

Hello Ben,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:25:32 PM, you wrote:

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.




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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'

MAU For me, the most important thing about C.G. are not the colours
MAU and fonts that you can assign,

However, this is what it's designed to do, i.e., to assign a special
font, colour or list background to a particular message or group of
messages.

MAU which are nice, but the fact the you can assign an attribute
MAU or category to messages and that these categories can be
MAU tested and/or set from filters. I use this quite a bit.

I would call this a side benefit that comes from indirect use of the
feature. It's called colour groups, right. :)

MAU Why I am not 100% satisfied then? Because I can ONLY assign a
MAU message to ONE group.

Well, you can't really make a message have two different colours at
the same time since this is a visual thing. This is why the
limitation exists.

MAU If I define a number of groups A, B, C, etc., that are not
MAU mutually exclusive (for example For_Reply and For_Reference)
MAU why can't I assign a message to more than one group?

Because it's the colour groups feature that you're trying to make do
something it's not specifically designed to do, though its intended
purpose is related to what you wish. It will allow you to assign
messages to groups but only through colours being the groups common
attribute and a message can't be coloured in more than one way since
the way you know that it belongs to a particular group is through
its colour. I know that you create colour groups without really
assigning colours and therefore wish to assign a single message to
more than one group, but this is clearly not the intended purpose of
the feature.

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Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Pr1 [P] wrote:'

P Is it possible to force messages I receive to wrap at, say, 80 or
P 90 characters per line? I'm spending more and more time every day
P having to Alt-L paragraphs in messages I reply to or just read,
P especially from Hotmail, Yahoo , etc. accounts and it's
P incredibly annoying. When I ask people to set up their email
P program or account properly most don't bother... All this wastes
P a lot of my time!

You can try the template set called 'ReWrap' found here:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap

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Re: Forcing viewed messages to wrap

2002-09-08 Thread Thomas F.

Hello Peter,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:03:21 +0200 GMT (08/09/02, 22:03 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

PP Than don't rewrap. Send them their stuff as it is received at your
PP side.

The line will still appear wrapped in their viewer.

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Re: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Arjan de Groot

In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Mebus wrote:

Just want you guys to know that Service Pack 1 for Windows XP is
out.

Hmm... I've just hot-fixed my XP with the latest security
patches.

It includes the possibility to really designate The Bat! (or any
other mail client) as the default e-mail program

Just for the record: I've never experienced any problem with that
in WinXP (inc. IE  OE). Netscape/Mozilla however...

by disabling access to Outlook Express.

An uninstall-option would have been better (oh well, we all know
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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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Richard Lane [RL] wrote:'

RL Glad to know it's not just me. I must admit I've seen more odd
RL happenings in the latest releases of TB, so much so that I'm
RL tempted to go back to and old version if I can find one. Up
RL until recently TB was 100% rock solid, now it doesn't seem to
RL take much to get it to fall over in some way.

This is strange. I've had problems but no show stoppers for a while.

If you need to downgrade, version 1.53t is available at

ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Sudip!

On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 6:20:50 PM you wrote:

 Marck, the AV test results of hackfix.org (with random trojans) seem
 to suggest that AVG has rather low, 64% to be precise, detection rate.
 Comparatively Kaspersky and NAV have 100 and 95 percent detection rate
 respectively.

AFAIR similar tests in German computer magazines the number for AVG
seems right, although Kaspersky and NAV usually don't score that high
- virtually no virus scanner does. that's why F-Secure uses two
(three) *different* scan engines.

BTW, Norton gets always highest marks for its interface and usability
for newbies, but lacks behind in detection and speed.



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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Gerard


ON Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:58:51 PM, you wrote:


MAU Why I am not 100% satisfied then? Because I can ONLY assign a
MAU message to ONE group. If I define a number of groups A, B, C, etc.,
MAU that are not mutually exclusive (for example For_Reply and
MAU For_Reference) why can't I assign a message to more than one group?

Hi Miguel,

   I know what you mean. I also use colors to assign emails to groups
   but they can only be assigned to 1 group at the time although they
   really should be a member of more then one.
   Problem is that you can't really do this with colors anyway.

   What we need is more an different flags, some thing like Flag 1
   through 8, which all can be set individually. If you put in a feature
   request for this I will support it.

   While you are doing that make sure that the search can also be done
   on email is not flagged.
   
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Re[2]: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Databug

Hello Richard,
On the 08/09/2002, you babbled on about Now here's an odd one? 

RL Glad to know it's not just me. I must admit I've seen more odd happenings in
RL the latest releases of TB, so much so that I'm tempted to go back to and old
RL version if I can find one. Up until recently TB was 100% rock solid, now it
RL doesn't seem to take much to get it to fall over in some way.

I get something similar too and as far as I remember i always have
had. I use Netcaptor so i always thought there was a compatibility
between the 2 programs. Still it doesn`t seem to be a major problem as
it doesn`t stop anything from working.

That`s all for now

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Missing folders

2002-09-08 Thread Joan Josep

Hi Batters!,

I  have  been trying to upgrade my computer system, and I have found
that carrying on the Bat is rather complicated, at least for me.

I followed the procedure described in the FAQ page, but probably did
some  mistake.  First  I  upgraded from win98 to win2k in a 2G disk,
reformatting  the  HD. I succeeded. But then I bought a new computer
with  a  20G disk, and the installation in this machine has not been
fully successful.

I  have  3  accounts.  The 2 secondary accounts whose mail files are
located  in  subdirectories  with  more  than 700 messages have been
transferred  OK.  This  includes  the  present  account with the Bat
folder.

But  I  have been unable to transfer correctly the main account. The
new  install  has  only the 5 basic folders( In, out, in known, sent
and  trash),  but the other created folders with their messages have
disappeared.

Is there a simple method to recover the folders and messages in this
folder, or should I better start it all over.

Searching  former  postings  I  realize  that  it may be tricky. Any
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Re[2]: Problem with attachments being corrupted

2002-09-08 Thread Mark Bernard

Hello Gerard,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 1:29:34 AM, you wrote:


G ON Friday, September 6, 2002, 10:26:53 PM, you wrote:

MB It happened again today with a corrupted .DOC (word document) file.
MB Tried openning the file from within TB!  Tried saving to desktop and
MB openning from there.  Wouldn't work.  I forwared the corrupt file to
MB myself (different email address... same computer and same copy of TB!)
MB and it openned fine - no reboots, nothing - original attachment will
MB still not open.

G Hi Mark,
GWhat your describing should be impossible except for the fact that
Gthere might be a difference in handling the attachements between
Gaccounts.

I don't know all the detailed options of TB!.  I tried it again, with
the same corrupt message.  I forwared it a few seperate times to my
other address, and they were all fine.

Redirect also worked.

Move and Copy to another folder did not work - attachment still
corrupted.

It's not just a single email and attachment that this works with. I've
tried it with different emails, from different senders.  One with a
corrupted .DOC file and one with a corrupted .JPG.  Both files were
fine after being forwarded.

GThe only thing I can think of is that the encoding of the attachment
Gyou received originally s not compatible with TB! and when you sent
Git to an other email address it is somehow encoded into a different
Gsystem.

No idea.

GI am assuming that you do not have local delivery activated under
GOptions|networkadmin|allow local delivery.

Correct.

GCould you try to do it again with this option activated. It should
Gthen fail to open the attachment in the other email account.

Tried. Forwarded with option activated... don't know what the
difference was... attachment of the forwarded email openned properly.

Am willing to try other things.  Just don't know what.

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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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Deborah W [DW] wrote:'

DW I've never thought of it before, but now that you mention it, I think
DW the ability to assign more than one colour group to a message would
DW indeed be a good feature. I can't think of a workaround though.

I can't think of how one could make a message have two different
colours at the same time.

What is needed is another feature to do what is being described.

Virtual folders is one that would cover such needs. In this way, you
can create folders that contain messages though these message
actually reside in a particular folder. One message may then be in
multiple virtual folders since the folder isn't really a folder in
the true sense.

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Re[2]: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Pete Milne



Replying to your message of Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:55:21 AM:

WM It was meant as a joke.

Actually, there are some that have been thinking it would be a bad move.
:O)

One never knows!


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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Jim!

On Sunday, September 8, 2002 at 7:44:18 PM you wrote:

 Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Jim, it's nice to see someone thanking others as you do, but for one
it is not necessary - I think we all agree that thanks is - most of
the time - implicit. And even if you want to thank the friendly little
helpers on  these lists, could you next time please refrain to *one*
message to all?

That would be really nice!*


*And it is not so much bandwidth I am concerned with (I am on a DSL
flatrate) but all those Thank you messages I had to see/skim and
delete.




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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Adam Rykala,

On Sunday, September 08 2002 at 08:45 AM PDT, you wrote:

 And  if  you  mean turning TB! into OE then ugghhh. 

No, the only one mentioning OE was you. ;o)  What he was inquiring about
is the NewsReader Plugin... no more... no less. ;o)

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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AR XP's been right as rain for me, in fact I don't know too many
AR people having problems with it...

AR Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it

I was hoping this off-topic thread would die a natural death, but it
didn't.

moderator

Please take any further discussion on this thread off-list since
it's way off-topic. Thanks.

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jim Lanyon [JL] wrote:'

JL Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

moderator

There's no need to publicly thank others for help like this. A
single reply thanking everyone would have been much better. Sending
a thank you response, five times, within the same thread wastes
bandwidth and is costly for some of the subscribers to this list.

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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Richard Lane

Hello Allie,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 7:20:14 PM, you wrote:


RL Glad to know it's not just me. I must admit I've seen more odd
RL happenings in the latest releases of TB, so much so that I'm
RL tempted to go back to and old version if I can find one. Up
RL until recently TB was 100% rock solid, now it doesn't seem to
RL take much to get it to fall over in some way.

 This is strange. I've had problems but no show stoppers for a while.

It's annoying more than anything. One of the things I liked about TB was how
stable and reliable it was as email is probably the main thing I use my PC
for and TB handle great volumes of it very well. Everything would crash
around it, but TB never.

 If you need to downgrade, version 1.53t is available at

 ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta

That's very handy thanks. If I do go back will my backed up message archives
import into it OK?


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Re[2]: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Deborah,

 Some of us are just never satisfied, are we? ;-)

Specially because I had that functionality in my previous e-mail
client. It was called Bookmarks, not Colour Groups.

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Re[2]: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Allie,

 However, this is what it's designed to do,...

I know Allie, I know.

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Re: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae DG,
 
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 15:24:56 [GMT -0400] (or 20:24 in Wales)
regarding 'OT: XP SP1' you wrote:

DRS It was always there, in any version of Windows, 9x, 2000 and XP. Simply
DRS open Internet Explorer, select Internet Options and further Programs then
DRS utilize the drop down list, after you install The_Bat!, and select the
DRS appropriate default email program.

DRS This is NOT new in XP's Service Pack 1.

Or  right click on XP's start button with the new menu, do properties It can
be altered there too

a

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Re: Missing folders

2002-09-08 Thread Roel

Hi Joan

On 8 Sep 2002 21:10:24  (my local time 22:10:24), Joan Josep wrote:

JJ Is there a simple method to recover the folders and messages in this
JJ folder, or should I better start it all over.

JJ Searching  former  postings  I  realize  that  it may be tricky. Any
JJ advise would be appreciated.

If the files are present on hard-disk, just type contral-alt-shift-L
That should do the trick.

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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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D I use Netcaptor so i always thought there was a compatibility
D between the 2 programs.

I use Netcaptor as well. It's currently my default and I haven't
noted any compatibility problems whatsoever.

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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-08 Thread Richard Lane

Hello Databug,

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 8:04:32 PM, you wrote:


RL Glad to know it's not just me. I must admit I've seen more odd happenings in
RL the latest releases of TB, so much so that I'm tempted to go back to and old
RL version if I can find one. Up until recently TB was 100% rock solid, now it
RL doesn't seem to take much to get it to fall over in some way.

 I get something similar too and as far as I remember i always have
 had. I use Netcaptor so i always thought there was a compatibility
 between the 2 programs. Still it doesn`t seem to be a major problem as
 it doesn`t stop anything from working.

Whatever it's doing or not doing it shouldn't be, which is something that
concerns me. I'm also getting several unexplained instances of IE falling
over when it didn't in the past and can't help wondering if the two are
connected in some way. 99% of the time I have the two always running
together. There's some instability in my system and normally I'd dismiss a
candidate for that being TB, but atm I'm not so sure.

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae Pete,
 
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 14:22:38 [GMT -0600] (or 21:22 in Wales)
regarding 'W2K to XP Pro' you wrote:



PM Replying to your message of Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:55:47 AM:

AR Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it

PM 1.4GHz, 512 DDR should handle it.

Oh yeah!

(2 x PIII 450 and 640mb here)

a

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Is the TBUDL info page down...

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae tbudl,

Can't get to it myself?

I'm  emailing  a  friend  whose  evaluating the Bat! and I can't get to the page
myself!

a.


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Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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MB It's not just a single email and attachment that this works
MB with. I've tried it with different emails, from different
MB senders. One with a corrupted .DOC file and one with a
MB corrupted .JPG. Both files were fine after being forwarded.

Are the different senders using the same clients?

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Re: Missing folders

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joan Josep [JJ] wrote:'

JJ I have been trying to upgrade my computer system, and I have
JJ found that carrying on the Bat is rather complicated, at least
JJ for me.

I'd advise that you use the backup and restore utility to do this.

Backup everything, i.e., tick everything to backup.

Install TB! on the new system. If you're installing v1.6, it will
ask you if you wish to restore a backup, just point it to your
backup file and that's it.

Doing it manually can be involved. I wouldn't go there unless
there's a specific reason to be doing so.

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TB! Info site

2002-09-08 Thread Adam Rykala

Sh'mae tbudl,

Some more info

This is my traceroute results from SamSpade Personal

09/09/02 00:00:26 Fast traceroute www.silverstones.com
Trace www.silverstones.com (195.112.37.189) ...
 1 192.168.0.1   0ms0ms0ms  TTL:  0  (server.new-wales.dnsalias.net ok)
 2 192.168.254.2   163ms  147ms  147ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
 3 192.168.253.6   162ms  152ms  156ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)
 4 62.252.192.81   160ms  141ms  166ms  TTL:  0  (man-pam1-b-fa11.inet.ntl.com ok)
 5 213.104.242.165 163ms  149ms  152ms  TTL:  0  (man-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com 
ok)
 6 62.253.184.61   152ms  148ms  144ms  TTL:  0  (man-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com 
probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
 7 62.253.185.138  150ms  155ms  143ms  TTL:  0  (win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com 
probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
 8 213.105.172.130 177ms  154ms  160ms  TTL:  0  (gfd-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com 
probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
 9 62.253.185.74   156ms  152ms  156ms  TTL:  0  (linx-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com 
probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
10 195.66.226.59   176ms  152ms  213ms  TTL:  0  (lon1-10.nildram.net fraudulent rDNS)
11 195.149.20.130  164ms  157ms  159ms  TTL:  0  (lon1-9.nildram.net fraudulent rDNS)
12 195.149.20.210  174ms  145ms  148ms  TTL:  0  (lon-border-1.bucks.net fraudulent 
rDNS)
13 195.112.37.29   174ms  164ms  167ms  TTL:  0  (lon-backbone-2.bucks.net fraudulent 
rDNS)
14 195.112.45.26   157ms  173ms  151ms  TTL:  0  (lon-core-1.bucks.net ok)
15 195.112.45.30   166ms  152ms  170ms  TTL:  0  (lon-backbone-1-e0.bucks.net ok)
16 195.112.37.26   174ms  162ms  165ms  TTL:  0  (ayl-backbone-1-hdlc0.bucks.net ok)
17 195.112.45.162  167ms  155ms  164ms  TTL:  0  (ayl-core-1.bucks.net ok)

Then its all * * * *

Is it just me?

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Re: W2K to XP Pro

2002-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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AR Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it

PM 1.4GHz, 512 DDR should handle it.

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DEAD HORSE!

Please, take this thread off-list.

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Re:Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Gerard.

At 3:01 PM on Sunday, September 08, 2002 you
[G] wrote the following about 'Colour Groups
and Memo limitations':

G [...] I also use colors to assign emails
G to groups but they can only be assigned to
G 1 group at the time although they really
G should be a member of more then one.
G Problem is that you can't really do this
G with colors anyway. [/...]

  How making a copy thru actions  assign to
  another folder  color. I'm not sure about
  the color if you elected to continue
  processing but the copy to another folder
  would surely work.

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Re[2]: OT: XP SP1

2002-09-08 Thread Paul Duthie

Hello all,

What is new in XP SP1 is the ability to disable Outlook Express full
stop...it won't even run if you double click on the icon...same with
MSN Messenger, Internet Explorer and Media Player.

Monday, September 9, 2002, 8:47:20 AM, you wrote:

AR Sh'mae DG,
 
AR On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 15:24:56 [GMT -0400] (or 20:24 in Wales)
AR regarding 'OT: XP SP1' you wrote:

DRS It was always there, in any version of Windows, 9x, 2000 and XP. Simply
DRS open Internet Explorer, select Internet Options and further Programs then
DRS utilize the drop down list, after you install The_Bat!, and select the
DRS appropriate default email program.

DRS This is NOT new in XP's Service Pack 1.

AR Or  right click on XP's start button with the new menu, do properties It can
AR be altered there too

AR a



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Re: Colour Groups and Memo limitations

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Allie,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:52:21 -0500 GMT (Sep 08, 23:37 my local time),
you wrote:

MAU For me, the most important thing about C.G. are not the colours
MAU and fonts that you can assign,

 Well, you can't really make a message have two different colours at
 the same time since this is a visual thing. This is why the
 limitation exists.

Besides, we all learned in a high school that if you mix two different
colors of the spectrum, the resultant is a different color altogether
;-)

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Re: AVG virus checker and TB

2002-09-08 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Dierk,

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:49:44 +0200 GMT (Sep 09, 00:34 my local time),
you [DH] wrote:

DH AFAIR similar tests in German computer magazines the number for
DH AVG seems right,
...snip

What scared me about the hackfix.org tests is that few trojans in
their petri dish seemed familiar. Particularly 'Girlfriend', a remote
administration tool akin to Back Orifice. I've had nasty experiences
with 'Girlfriend' in the past and to say that AVG only detects few
versions of this trojan cultivates doubts in my mind regarding AVG
use.

http://www.hackfix.org/miscfix/icons-av-all.shtml  --- Test page

Although a long-time NAV user, I like the light footprint of AVG and
would like to give it a shot.

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Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted

2002-09-08 Thread Eddy

Sunday, September 8, 2002, 6:57:01 PM, you wrote:

ACM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Mark Bernard [MB] wrote:'

MB It's not just a single email and attachment that this works
MB with. I've tried it with different emails, from different
MB senders. One with a corrupted .DOC file and one with a
MB corrupted .JPG. Both files were fine after being forwarded.

ACM Are the different senders using the same clients?

I've had the same problem as Mark for a long time, with varying
versions of TB! I sent email to the list back in April, and nobody
had any clues then. The attitude seemed to be well it doesn't
happen to me, so I guess it must be a problem on your end.

Luckily, other people are starting the experience the attachment
corruption issue, so maybe it will get resolved.

Allie, it shouldn't matter what client the senders are using. The
points are this:

 - The mail is being received and stored properly by TB!
   (otherwise, you would not be able to forward it to another
   user and have them be able to read the attachment correctly.
   If it was network errors, ISP related, or a problem with how
   TB! stores messages, forwarding the message would result in
   the forwarded copy being unreadable by the new recipient,
   which is NOT the case. The attachments which are corrupt for
   me in TB! can always be forwarded to a non-TB! user and be
   perfectly readable).

 - This leads me to believe there are issues with how TB! decodes
   attachments, such that under certain circumstances (which are
   yet to be determined), attachments are corrupted.

 - In any event, TB! should never corrupt an attachment, regardless
   of what MUA is used.
   
I have sent zip'd versions of a TB! folder that contains corrupt
attachments to other TB! users, including Thomas F., a frequent
participant on this list, and they have verified that indeed, the
attachments are corrupt for them when they open the folder... yet
forwarding that same message to a non-TB! user results in a perfectly
readable message. The key now is to get the authors to look at why
these attachments are being corrupted when they are opened by TB!,
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www.silverstones.com

2002-09-08 Thread Pete Milne



  Marck,

  You have the website www.silverstones.com correct?  I have tried to
  access the site...it is dead (at least on my end).  Were you aware of
  this?

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