Moving to previous message
Hello, I use view messages by reference and have mark message as read after 3 seconds. Sometimes I read a message and find I want to go back to it but can't find a keystroke to move back through recent messages that I have looked at. It's not the same as CTRL [ because that only moves to the previous *unread* message. I think I am probably going to have to spend time trying different ways of using TB! -- Best regards, Richard Look in a mirror and one thing's sure: what we see is not who we are. The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to previous message
Hi Richard, on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:54:09 +GMT (01.12.02, 09:54 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RW I use view messages by reference and have mark message as read RW after 3 seconds. Sometimes I read a message and find I want to go RW back to it but can't find a keystroke to move back through recent RW messages that I have looked at. Try alt + left arrow to go to the previously viewed message. RW I think I am probably going to have to spend time trying different RW ways of using TB! Good idea. You'll be surprised more than once at TB!'s features, that are sometimes a bit hidden... ;-) -- Cheers Peter Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future Niehls Bohr Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to previous message
Hello Peter, Sun, 1 Dec 2002 at 10:08:59[GMT +0100](09:08 where I live) you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Try alt + left arrow to go to the previously viewed message. Now that one *definitely* isn't in the published list of keystrokes. Many thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Losers let things happen! Winners make things happen! The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195) version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera 7. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid question about Avg and the bats plug-in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, In a message with [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30 Nov 2002 16:27:37 (my local time 1 dec 2002 01:27:37), you typed: CW The POP3 scanner is to be CW replaced by a winsock layer and the GUI is being changed. CW The winsock layer will not just scan e-mails, but also everything you CW look at on the internet as it's a layer between the internet and your CW PC. CW This could potentially be very good, but not something I'd personally CW like, due to additional overheads etc. This doesn't sound all that good. How's Dr Web in comparison with Nod32 in your experience? How well does it perform in tests, if that's anything to go by. How much is it and are there different versions, ie standard and pro or such? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.62/Beta16, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=get_pgp_keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 98) iD8DBQE96dugODlJeoMTOQsRAvXnAJ4/HZXMozAHvABwRmOkmRL/i03XJQCg7Kzf pG9v0bFyxFncE7L510npWY8= =9X1Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change Mail Dispatcher Font
Hello Christopher, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 1:22:57 AM, you wrote: CTD Is it possible to change the size of the font in the mail dispatcher? While the knowledgeable Listers are about answering this, let me expand the question. In addition to increasing the size of the font in the mail dispatcher--that would be a help to my old eyes too--is it possible to increase the size of the font in the To, CC, and Subject fields? CTD I have started to use it as a rudimentary spam filter but on my CTD screen it is all a bit too small and I am worried I will uncheck the CTD wrong box! Yes, I have to lean in to my screen to read mine. And checking the To field, to make sure I have the correct address, requires even closer attention. Please forgive me for replying to you, Chris, when I don't have an answer. Perhaps someone will help both of us. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to previous message
Hello Richard, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:19:58 + GMT (01/12/02, 16:19 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: Try alt + left arrow to go to the previously viewed message. Now that one *definitely* isn't in the published list of keystrokes. If you want to go back to the message you read after that one (the one you came from before you hit alt + left arrow) use alt + right arrow. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'm not cheap, but I am on special this week. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete all messages on server
Hello TBUDL, my DUN connection is not so perfect, so it breaks (latest after 20 minutes, sometimes earlier) after some messages but oftentimes not all messages are downloaded. In order to avoid double-downloads, I leave messages on server for one day. This is necessary as otherwise TB downloads already downloaded messages again, due to a bug in the UIDL keeping (if this bug has been fixed, please let me know). Now it sometimes happens with one of my accounts that it gets pretty full within one day (10MB limit), and I need to delete the messages that are still on the server, after I have downloaded them. What I do is I use the despatcher, click on delete for each message, and then hit the colourful execute circle. This works well, but at several hundred messages it is tedious work. I have not found a way to get the tickbox delete marked with a keystroke rather than the mouse, and to then move to the next message (also with a keystroke). Keystrokes would help me, they are much more convenient, so if there are any, kindly let me know. What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change Mail Dispatcher Font
Hello Mary, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 03:50:34 -0600 GMT (01/12/02, 16:50 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: CTD Is it possible to change the size of the font in the mail dispatcher? Not that I know of, but maybe someone lese does. In addition to increasing the size of the font in the mail dispatcher--that would be a help to my old eyes too--is it possible to increase the size of the font in the To, CC, and Subject fields? You mean in the message list, right? Options / Message List Colours Font / Font / Size -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to previous message
Hello Thomas, Sun, 1 Dec 2002 at 16:43:44[GMT +0700](09:43 where I live) you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If you want to go back to the message you read after that one (the one you came from before you hit alt + left arrow) use alt + right arrow. ;-) Ah, my super intelligence had already sussed that one out ;-) -- Best regards, Richard Only dead fish go with the flow. The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195) version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera 7. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Change Mail Dispatcher Font [and font in To field of Replyand New mail]
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 4:00:52 AM, you wrote: MB ... is it possible to increase the size of the font in the MB To, CC, and Subject fields? TF You mean in the message list, right? No, I mean in the composition window. TF Options / Message List Colours Font / Font / Size But this is a help, also. I went there and increased the size and quality to 12 pt. bold. Very much easier. Contrast is almost as much a limitation for me as size. I have chosen the best color settings I can, from the right-click Desktop option in winXP. And I put the resolution down one setting. This helps in TB as well as other places. And I chose 14 pt. bold for the body of messages in TB. This on my 17.1 in. screen is a pure joy, compared to what I was using before. I don't know what is the correct term for the To, CC, and Subject fields in the composition (Reply or New Mail) window. Is it headers? If so, that is still what I lack a means to change. Thanks, Thomas. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 9:51:17 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: This works well, but at several hundred messages it is tedious work. I have not found a way to get the tickbox delete marked with a keystroke rather than the mouse, and to then move to the next message (also with a keystroke). Keystrokes would help me, they are much more convenient, so if there are any, kindly let me know. The spacebar will work to tick the box, but unfortunately if you move down to the next message using the down arrow, [Spacebar] works on the first ticked box, so if Read is ticked, then [spacebar] will untick this and not Delete. What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? Ctrl+3 (1 for Read, 2 for Receive, 3 for Delete and 4 for Open) in the Dispatcher window marks all messages for deletion. It works as a toggle, so you can turn off in the same way, but it also means that it will untick all ticked boxes and tick unticked boxes at the same time. Shift+3 will untick all ticked messages, but this is not a toggle, so you cannot turn the ticks on in the same way. It is good if you have some messages ticked - Shift+2 will untick them all, and Ctrl+2 will then tick them all. For quick deletion Ctrl+2 to untick Receive, and then F2 to execute the dispatch (delete the messages) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Thomas, snipped a bit What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? On Dispatcher try Alt+3 (Global/Set Flag/Delete). Not exactly what you want, but close. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Miguel, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:31:05 +0100 GMT (01/12/02, 17:31 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: snipped a bit What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? On Dispatcher try Alt+3 (Global/Set Flag/Delete). Not exactly what you want, but close. Let's say very, very close. Thanks! Now I don't need to tick all messages seperately with the mouse any more. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marking messages as Read when replied.
Hello Daniel, MAU Your message has just been assigned to my Very Important! Don't MAU forget! colour group ;-) HA! Your filters clearly work perfectly :) You didn't think that your message would be caught by my Ignore filter, did you? ;-) Hmm, thanks, I'm just downloading Power Pro now, and I think I'll give your macro idea a go, if that works, it would be ideal - i think :) I'll let you know how Power Pro handles it... Yes, please do. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Julian, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:30:10 + GMT (01/12/02, 17:30 +0700 GMT), Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? Ctrl+3 (1 for Read, 2 for Receive, 3 for Delete and 4 for Open) in the Dispatcher window marks all messages for deletion. It works as a toggle, so you can turn off in the same way, but it also means that it will untick all ticked boxes and tick unticked boxes at the same time. Wow, crtl is even better than alt, as it toggles. Thanks. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Outlook Express Address book
Hello Roelof, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 2:21:17 AM, you wrote: RO That ought to be done with the import wizard: RO Tools - Import messages - Mailbox import wizard - Select the correct version RO I've been told that that takes care of the address book too. Sorry mate, It doesn't do the Address book. Incidentally, this was all caused by a hard drive upgrade. I faithfully backed up the Bat and re-imported, not realising this did not include the address book. I have however an old address book archived from mu Outleak days, but as you can see, converting it appears to be no easy matter. Ah well !! back to importing from the keyboard. RO BTW You posted your message as a reply to another message. That's not RO the preferred behaviour on this list, because of TB's abilities. Apologies, as I didn't have my address book, I took (what looked like an easy option) and replied to a previous mail. I didn't realise the confusion this would cause. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter?
ON Saturday, November 30, 2002, 6:18:09 PM, you wrote: s I want to create a filter so that if From = To == Trash Hi syv, I think what you want to do is catch spam. An other way to do this is look just to the To address. A lot of spam will not show your email address because it is being send as a BCC. So the filter you could use is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Presence NO Although not exactly what you want it will do the same, especially if before this filter you have all your oher filter and the Known filter Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gimme: An agreement between two losers who can't putt. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hi Thomas, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 16:51:17 [GMT +0700], you wrote: TF Now it sometimes happens with one of my accounts that it gets pretty TF full within one day (10MB limit), and I need to delete the messages TF that are still on the server, after I have downloaded them. What about this suggestion: Create a catch-all incoming mail filter as your first filter, make it move message from the inbox to the inbox and let processing continue with other filters. In the options for this filter mark Delete this message from the server. This way, every message which was downloaded successfully (and thus triggers this filter) will be deleted from the server the next time you check for your mail. All others still remain on the server for the time you specified in the account properties. This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the server. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat illegal operation
When I first bought the Bat I had some problems with The Bat abending. All these problems in the Bat were not caused to some of my friends who received the same messages using other mail programs. The problem was only with the Bat. I didn't get any further problems until today... 1. Received email from known and respected regular source. It has HTML in it. 2. When click on the line to view it. A) begin to see HTML form on screen B) after a fraction of a second program abends 3. Get This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persists, contact the program vendor. THEBAT caused a general protection fault in module KRNL386.EXE at 0001:9d4a. Registers: After going through some blue screens of death I get Explorer EXPLORER caused a general protection fault in module KRNL386.EXE at 001:7572 I had no alternative to turn off the machine. I lost my internet connection... 4. Turn on the machine when I am off the internet. I started The Bat. Highlighted the same message. Get a dialog saying there is an error in the Bat. Get blue screen of death. Am forced to power off machine. 5. Turn on the machine when I am off the internet. Highlighted the same message. Quickly deleted the message. So the message goes to Trash folder. 6. Phew. I can now run the Bat. Has anyone else got this problem with the Bat? What can I do to prevent it? (Running The Bat version 1.61 Business Edition under Win95) Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming email to correct Account
I am investigating various replies... I will let the list know of the result. Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change Mail Dispatcher Font [and font in To field of Reply andNew mail]
Hello Mary, MB ... is it possible to increase the size of the font in the MB To, CC, and Subject fields? TF You mean in the message list, right? No, I mean in the composition window. Options/Preferences/System/Message pane header. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Change Mail Dispatcher Font [and font in To field of Replyand New mail]
Hello Miguel, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 5:12:35 AM, you wrote: MB ... increase the size of the font in the To, CC, and MB Subject fields in the composition window ... ? MAU Options/Preferences/System/Message pane header. A million thanks. I am now looking at To: Miguel ... in 12 pt bold. And I have increased my vocabulary. I now know that I am writing to you in the message pane. :) Thanks for this help. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Express Address book
Hello Jim, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:49:21 + GMT (01/12/02, 17:49 +0700 GMT), Jim Lanyon wrote: I have however an old address book archived from mu Outleak days, but as you can see, converting it appears to be no easy matter. Ah well !! back to importing from the keyboard. You can export/convert the OL adressbook to LDIF format, and you can import this to TB. Don't ask what this means, I jsut read it here, and somebody will reply in more detail. I just want to tell you there is a way. Oh, and another way is to export the individual addresses a vCards, which TB can import. That would be feasible only for a small number of addresses, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter?
Hello Gerard, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:46:06 +0100 GMT (01/12/02, 17:46 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Presence NO You mean recipient, I think. Only very few of my (legit) incoming mail use my own address as sender. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Neverending loop
TDUDL, Tonight received a message which cause an AV in The Bat! It is the last message in the InBox. I have to reboot the computer after receiving it. The problem is that when The Bat is run it tries to display the same message that causes an AV. So I get the AV again. How do I delete this message so that I am not in a 'Neverending loop'? (Using The Bat version 1.61 Business Edition under Win95) Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change Mail Dispatcher Font [and font in To field of Reply andNew mail]
Hello Mary, A million thanks. I am now looking at To: Miguel ... in 12 pt bold. What do you mean bold? I still have plenty of hair on my head! ;-) And I have increased my vocabulary. I now know that I am writing to you in the message pane. :) Yes, TB can be tricky at times. Why would anyone look for this setting in Options/Editor preferences? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to previous message
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 4:08 AM, you wrote: RW I use view messages by reference and have mark message as read RW after 3 seconds. Sometimes I read a message and find I want to go RW back to it but can't find a keystroke to move back through recent RW messages that I have looked at. PM Try alt + left arrow to go to the previously viewed message. when I tried that, it closed all open windows. Maybe the Litestep desktop already has that key mapped... -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.
In reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:45:57 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hmm, thanks, I'm just downloading Power Pro now, and I think I'll
give your macro idea a go, if that works, it would be ideal - i
think :)
I'll let you know how Power Pro handles it...
MAU Yes, please do. Thanks.
Hmm, it turns out that PowerPro is even more intimidating when you
first install it than The Bat is... - OMG it seemed like the confusion
would never end...
But once i got past the initial setup wizard (which was crap IMO) - it
all made sense...
So yes, after initial testing, I got a macro to do what i wanted...
The ignore thread filter is my third in my incoming filter list, it
adds what is currently selected to the a new alternative set,
searching in kludges.
Under the Key/Mouse tab in PowerPro
Blank for all windows: The Bat!, View Folder*
Enter command: *Keys
Enter keys to send: ^c{ctrl}{shift}s
Enter more commands with button:
*Wait active Sorting Office*
*Keys
{right}{down}{down}{down}{tab}{right}%a^v{alt}{right}{alt}{right}{left}{left}{left}{left}{alt}{down}{alt}{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{enter}{alt}c
The amount of {down} in the last *Keys line is in direct relationship
to the number filter it is, in my case, the 3rd... if that makes
sense...
looks bloody confusing i know, but after trial and error this is what
i came up with :)
And it works! - so thanks for the tip...
--
dan.
e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w http://www.danhirning.com
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Re[2]: Change Mail Dispatcher Font [and font in To field of Replyand New mail]
Hello Miguel, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 6:23:02 AM, you wrote: MB A million thanks. I am now looking at To: Miguel ... in 12 pt bold. MAU What do you mean bold? I still have plenty of hair on my head! ;-) Never mind! :) In poetry that bold/bald shift would be called slant rhyme. As in, veering OT. :) MB And I have increased my vocabulary. I now know that I am writing to MB you in the message pane. :) MAU Yes, TB can be tricky at times. Why would anyone look for this setting MAU in Options/Editor preferences? ;-) Thou great tease! Having an old lady on for her thick head? Who didn't know what a message pane was and that she could fix her fonts there, in Options/Editor preferences/ message pane? :-) But I forgive thee. Thou canst not imagine how much trouble being able to see the To: header in the message pane is going to keep me out of in future! :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Http URL
Hello, I installed Opera for a trial run, then un-installed the program. One would have thought that would be the end of the subject. Not so, now when I click on a HTTP:URL ie: www.anywhere.com The Bat cannot find Opera.exe I was getting this Http:url... error with a box where I could locate the Opera program. Thinking if I just put back in the IE exe program, that all would be well was a mistake. I now click on a url IE will open with no follow through. I tried using FAQ, I couldn't find anything specific to this. There is nothing in the program HELP files itself relating to URL . Has anyone run into this before. I tried to look in the registry for any opera commands, nothing. I looked in IE and made OE the mail reader of choice, rebooted. Then went back and changed the Mail to TheBat! again. Rebooted. Nothing. Any suggestion welcomed:) -- Cheers, Dean Using The Bat!1.62 Beta/17 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Http URL
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 16:42:00, Dean wrote: Has anyone run into this before. I tried to look in the registry for any opera commands, nothing. I looked in IE and made OE the mail reader of choice, rebooted. Then went back and changed the Mail to TheBat! again. Rebooted. Nothing. Try it the other way around, make IE the default browser. Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany Best file compression around: DEL *.* = 100% compress Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Http URL
Hello Dean, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 10:42:00 AM, you wrote: D Hello, D I installed Opera for a trial run, then un-installed the program. D One would have thought that would be the end of the subject. Not D so, now when I click on a HTTP:URL ie: www.anywhere.com The Bat D cannot find Opera.exe I was getting this Http:url... error with a D box where I could locate the Opera program. Perhaps the people at the opera.tech newsgroup can help you. Some are very helpful there. There's also opera.general Am waiting for the version that works with TheBat! I understand their most recent beta doesn't. -- Good luck, mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Http URL
Hello Dean On Sunday, December 1, 2002, you wrote Hello, Thinking if I just put back in the IE exe program, that all would be well was a mistake. I now click on a url IE will open with no follow through. I tried using FAQ, I couldn't find anything specific to this. There is nothing in the program HELP files itself relating to URL . Under file/preferences I have given TheBat! the default for Opera. If I click on a url in an email it opens in Opera. When I want to use IE, I manually bring that up. IE and Opera both trigger an email in TheBat!. IE never opens automatically because it is not my default browser, Opera is. I must copy/paste into IE if I find a website that is not friendly to Opera. I am sure the same thing can be done to use OE by going to preferences. Is that what you are after? Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marking messages as Read when replied.
Hello Daniel, Hmm, it turns out that PowerPro is even more intimidating when you first install it than The Bat is... Yes, I agree. So yes, after initial testing, I got a macro to do what i wanted... Hmmm, you got me in spending part of a rainy a dark Sunday afternoon looking at PowerPro. And I also got a macro (combined with a QT to extract MID) working 95%. And I say 95% because I found no reliable way of selecting Kludges in the set added to Alternatives. Works when I am recording the macro, but not when I run it. Location will always get Sender. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Lars, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 11:55:53 AM you [LG] wrote (at least in part): LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all DELE commands. RFC states DELE should be _real_ executed (on servers side) after QUIT was submitted, because before a client could still send 'RSET' which (a.o.) 'undeletes'. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Can't wait 'til the 22... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hi Peter, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 17:58:12 [GMT +0100], you wrote: LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. PP No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' PP command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 PP session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all PP DELE commands. Yes, it will. If a filter is set to delete messages from the server, it will only do so during the next mail check after the filter was triggered (I just tested this, just to be sure). If I understand Thomas correctly, his line isn't dropped every time he fetches his mail. So the deletion would eventually take place without user intervention. PP RFC states DELE should be _real_ executed (on servers PP side) after QUIT was submitted, because before a client could still PP send 'RSET' which (a.o.) 'undeletes'. OK, I knew that already. But I assumed that -- having downloaded most of the mails already -- Thomas' connection wouldn't reach the 20 minutes limit during a subsequent mail check and therefore *would* delete the messages when the connection is closed correctly. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The keyboard shortcuts list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Chiropter Operators, Is anyone currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now? I notice that on Marck's site the English text version hasn't been updated since The Bat! V.1.38e and the HTML version was last updated on June 22, 2001. The reason I looked is because I was curious after a recent question regarding opening all threads and closing them using shortcut keys. I wondered why the person asking wasn't directed to the shortcuts list for the Ctrl+Shift+* to close all threads, but on looking I see that only the expand all threads shortcut is listed (Ctrl+*). Anyhow, I know everyone does there bit voluntarily so was just asking :) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 #2359. Squaw Dry Lose Rim ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 iQA/AwUBPepHxstub/5cfolmEQKk2wCfTcZpOnv79+KYQiOVCeTxBPvaH5IAnjll mAbVBAPVQpiOC+ZPKTFHNUWp =fn1m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The keyboard shortcuts list
Hi Simon, on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:32:37 +GMT (01.12.02, 18:32 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : S Is anyone currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now? I don't think so... S The reason I looked is because I was curious after a recent question S regarding opening all threads and closing them using shortcut keys. I S wondered why the person asking wasn't directed to the shortcuts list for S the Ctrl+Shift+* to close all threads, but on looking I see that only the S expand all threads shortcut is listed (Ctrl+*). CTRL + - works for closing, AFAIK... :-) S Anyhow, I know everyone does there bit voluntarily so was just asking :) No problem! *S* There are so many undocumented features, let's go and find them! :) -- Cheers Peter Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! Winamp currently playing: Man - Just for You Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The keyboard shortcuts list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Peter, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:51:26 +0100 your time, you said: PM CTRL + - works for closing, AFAIK... :-) No, that just closes a *single* expanded thread, not *all* expanded threads in folder :-) To completely expand *all* threads in a folder you need to select any thread in the folder and hit Ctrl+* and to completely close all the expanded threads you need to select any thread and hit Ctrl+Shift+* Perhaps I'll have as much fun looking for undocumented features in TB! as I did years ago on my old MacII .. but there again perhaps not ;-) - it would have been beneficial to have had a few extra elongated fingers on each hand to use some of those old Mac OS shortcuts g - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ** PGP Key: http://pgp.theycallmesimon.co.uk/ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 #2526. Qua Do Isle Mrs Wry ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 iQA/AwUBPepUOctub/5cfolmEQJsvQCfVsdXosKqOX/j0XlSB1pSKx90c00An3nI RV7PB/2asXiJrTbJBetbuet7 =nSIx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Outlook Express Address book
Hello Melissa, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 6:07:51 PM, you wrote: MR I'm not sure if this is still necessary with newer versions of TB!, MR but when I got my mother to switch from OE to TB!, I found a little MR utility called wab2ldif.exe Thanks very much. I searched for and found the file. It worked perfectly... I owe you a beer -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Big problems
Hello, First of all I find I can't get an attachment to go with my mass mailing to an address group. Now TB! is using just over 70% of my processor when at idle and the cursor is continually flashing between that and the hourglass. The programme all works OK but I can't understand what has happened over the last few days. I've not changed anything else or installed any new programmes. If I have to re install what programmes should I back up? I have all mail backed up regularly anyway. -- Best regards, Richard Be careful of your dreams, they may come true. Chinese proverb The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid question about Avg and the bats plug-in
Hi Krister On Sunday, December 1, 2002 10:51 your local time, which was 01:51 my local time, Krister Ekstrom [KE] wrote; KE How's Dr Web in comparison with Nod32 in your experience? How well KE does it perform in tests, if that's anything to go by. How much is KE it and are there different versions, ie standard and pro or such? I only ran NOD32 for a few days, up until I heard about the winsock layer and DrWeb and therefore I don't feel I could give a fair report. Allie Martin may be a good source to call upon, as he uses NOD32 as his resident shield and DrWeb as a plug-in to TB! Allie, over to you? LOL ;-) The one thing that did bug me about NOD32 with the TB! plug-in was when it scanned mails, it would take away focus of what you were working on, and therefore require you to re-select it before continuing. Only minor really, but still frustrating all the same. As for cost, I think it was 25 Euro's. A quick look at http://www.xe.com/, and you can find out that cost in your local currency. Sorry for the lack of comparison, but it wouldn't be fair too and hope Allie can from a better position. Oh, one key thing I do like about DrWeb though is the fact it scans compressed files before execution, which was something I wanted. Cheers, Chris. -- Created Using The Bat! V1.61 E-Mail Client and Virus Checked by DrWeb. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big problems
Hello Richard, First of all I find I can't get an attachment to go with my mass mailing to an address group. snipped The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with... Since you are using a beta version I think you should report these problems in the TBBETA list. If you are not subscribed, go to: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big problems
Hello Miguel, Sun, 1 Dec 2002 at 22:15:08[GMT +0100](21:15 where I live) you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Since you are using a beta version I think you should report these problems in the TBBETA list. Oops! -- Best regards, Richard Jury: Twelve people who determine which client has the better lawyer. The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195) version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera 7. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big problems
On Sunday, December 01, 2002, Richard Wakeford wrote: -Original Message- RW First of all I find I can't get an attachment to go with RW my mass mailing to an address group. I use mass-mailing without any problem. Here is what I use in the template at the end of the message: This e-mail is sent to: %TOADDR +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ %ATTACHFILE=C:\Temp\Buy.pdf %ATTACHFILE=C:\Temp\MostAsked.pdf %ATTACHFILE=C:\Temp\Free.pdf %ATTACHFILE=C:\Temp\Information.pdf -- Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Big problems
Hello syv, Sun, 1 Dec 2002 at 13:24:01[GMT -0800](21:24 where I live) you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I use mass-mailing without any problem. Here is what I use in the template at the end of the message: Yup, that's the way I do it too but, this time, there is no way I can get the attachment to send. When the 60 messages are queued in the outbox there is no attachment shown :-( -- Best regards, Richard People seldom plan to fail, but they often fail to plan The Bat! 1.62/Beta16 with Windows 2000 (build 2195) version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and Opera 7. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: half ot: imergensy cry from a nod32 evaluator
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Wieder [MW] wrote:' MW NOD32 works fine for me without the plugin. Or the pop3 handler. MW And it's caught several viruses riding on attachments as they MW were coming in. I'd say disable both of those and let the main MW NOD32 module do its thing. How does it catch the viruses? Do you have NOD32's realtime scanner scanning all files? In this case it would pick up the virus in the temp files. Doesn't this disrupt TB!'s mail download process? -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62 Beta/17 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat illegal operation
Hallo Peter, On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:01:27 +1100GMT (29-11-02, 0:01 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PE 2. When click on the line to view it. PEA) begin to see HTML form on screen PEB) after a fraction of a second program abends You've enabled to view the html part of messages automatically. Turn that off. (That won't mean you can't see it, but to see the html-part you'll have to click the html-tab first.) You can change this setting here: Options - Preferences - General - uncheck: 'Display html part of messages automatically' -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat illegal operation
Peter, Trying to get this message in it's own thread. Sorry if I muck things up... *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Thursday, November 28, 2002, 5:01:27 PM, you wrote: PE When I first bought the Bat I had some problems with The Bat abending. PE All these problems in the Bat were not caused to some of my friends who PE received the same messages using other mail programs. The problem was only PE with the Bat. PE I didn't get any further problems until today... PE 1. Received email from known and respected regular source. It has HTML in PE it. PE 2. When click on the line to view it. PEA) begin to see HTML form on screen PEB) after a fraction of a second program abends PE 3. Get PE This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. PE If the problem persists, contact the program vendor. PE THEBAT caused a general protection fault in module PE KRNL386.EXE at 0001:9d4a. PE Registers: PE After going through some blue screens of death I get PE Explorer PE EXPLORER caused a general protection fault in module KRNL386.EXE PE at 001:7572 PE I had no alternative to turn off the machine. PE I lost my internet connection... PE 4. Turn on the machine when I am off the internet. PE I started The Bat. Highlighted the same message. PE Get a dialog saying there is an error in the Bat. PE Get blue screen of death. PE Am forced to power off machine. PE 5. Turn on the machine when I am off the internet. PE Highlighted the same message. PE Quickly deleted the message. So the message goes to Trash folder. PE 6. Phew. PE I can now run the Bat. PE Has anyone else got this problem with the Bat? PE What can I do to prevent it? PE (Running The Bat version 1.61 Business Edition under Win95) PE Regards, Peter Evans This sounds more like an IE error to me. If you have an icon on the left of your screen for the attached html message, try saving it to your hard drive somewhere and double clicking on it to take TB! clear out of the loop. See if you still get the same error. If you still do then it most likely is an IE problem and not TB... -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Neverending loop
Hallo Peter, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:03:06 +1100GMT (1-12-02, 13:03 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PE It is the last message in the InBox. PE I have to reboot the computer after receiving it. PE The problem is that when The Bat is run it tries to display the same message PE that causes an AV. So I get the AV again. Did you already download it on your pc, or is it the act of downloading the e-mail that triggers the AV-program? In case it's the downloading, than use the mail dispatcher to select and delete the bad mail on the server: Account - Dispatch mail on server - All messages When it's already in your inbox and it's the viewing of the mail that causes problems: Disable your AV program Start TB Delete the infected mail (TB won't start the virus, unless you specifically tell it to open the the attachment) Compress your inbox (Folder - Copmpress) Start your AV program This second path can be used in case the mail isn't downloaded yet, but the dispatcher is the safer way. BTW Both of your messages I read just now were replies to other messages. That's not the best way on this list and this is the reason: The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The keyboard shortcuts list
Simon, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Sunday, December 1, 2002, 11:32:37 AM, you wrote: S 'Lo Chiropter Operators, S Is anyone currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now? I notice S that on Marck's site the English text version hasn't been updated since The S Bat! V.1.38e and the HTML version was last updated on June 22, 2001. I didn't even know there was a ketboard shortcut list anywhere... To help out the newbies here (like me!) could people please post URLs when writing about a site? Thanks. -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello tbudl listers, With a little help from several of you, I have all my fonts enlarged to 12 or 14 pt bold (note aside, to Miguel, not bald :) ) including message pane and headers and folder tree and message list--except: boxes such as Move Message to Folder. Can anyone tell me where those choices are hidden? I found the Folder Tree choices all by myself, after Miguel told me where to find the Message Pane font changes, in Options/EditorPreferences/Display/font, Change button. (Patting myself on the back. :) ) But I'm now stymied by the 8 pt font in Move Message to Folder. Help? -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat illegal operation
Roelof, You've enabled to view the html part of messages automatically. Turn that off. (That won't mean you can't see it, but to see the html-part you'll have to click the html-tab first.) You can change this setting here: Options - Preferences - General - uncheck: 'Display html part of messages automatically' This was the clue to enable me to resolve the problem. Thank you. Unfortunately I could not get to do what you suggested because by running the Bat it abended... What I did was to ::- 1) rename Account directory on disk [I have two accounts] 2) run the Bat. It now runs because the problem message is not there. 3) change settings as you suggest 4) rename Account directory on disk to what it was originally Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Neverending loop
Melissa, Have you tried deleting the message from the Mail Dispatcher? If you don't already use that function, it can be found in: Thank you for that tip but unfortunately the problem exists on my computer because the message has already been downloaded and deleted from my ISP. See another reply by me on how I resolved the problem. Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat illegal operation
Scott, This sounds more like an IE error to me. If you have an icon on the left of your screen for the attached html message, try saving it to your hard drive somewhere and double clicking on it to take TB! clear out of the loop. See if you still get the same error. If you still do then it most likely is an IE problem and not TB... I followed your advice. IE does not abend. This means that the problem is clearly with The Bat. In a previous message on another topic I said that The Bat is unable to handle some HTML that other mail program handle. This has been proven by I receiving the same message that my friends have - their mail programs have not crashed, nor have they brought down the whole operating system. I looked at the message with a hex viewer. The message commences with a Carriage Return followed by a Line Feed. The human readable text then follows, commencing byte 3. Unfortunately The Bat does not have good error recovery routines. Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Neverending loop
Roelof, Did you already download it on your pc, or is it the act of downloading the e-mail that triggers the AV-program? Sorry, I will have to change my abbreviations to suit this List. By AV I meant ::- AV = Access Violation By AV you mean AV = Anti Virus I didn't have my Anti Virus program running. I had disabled it so that that could not be the cause of the problem. BTW Both of your messages I read just now were replies to other messages. That's not the best way on this list and this is the reason: I won't do that again. Regards, Peter Evans Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Marking messages as Read when replied.
In reply to Miguel's message 'Marking messages as Read when replied.'
on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:45:02 +0100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MAU Hmmm, you got me in spending part of a rainy a dark Sunday
MAU afternoon looking at PowerPro.
i do apologise for getting you hooked :)
MAU And I also got a macro (combined with a QT to extract MID)
MAU working 95%.
I was about to ask WTF is a MID, until i looked at the headers and
found 'Message-ID', it all become abundantly clear from that :-)
How are you using the QT to extract the MID?, i mean how does the QT
run?
MAU And I say 95% because I found no reliable way of selecting
MAU Kludges in the set added to Alternatives. Works when I am
MAU recording the macro, but not when I run it. Location will always
MAU get Sender.
Yes, I was having this exact same problem... - this is where the trial
and error came into it...
When you tab from the 'String' field, for some god-unknown reason, the
next tab stop is the screensaver active drop down on the advanced
tab?! What the hell is with that?!
Anyway, so i initially was tabbing twice, and than {left}ing back...
but than i found I could alt{right} which only sometimes worked... it
turns out, that you can't use {alt}{right} but you must use the alt
character, %{right}
anyway, this is what I use to add the clipboard contents to a new set
%a^v%{right}%{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{down}{enter}%c
which adds a net set, pastes the clipboard, changes location to
kludges and closes the sorting office dialog... hope this gets it to
100% :)
--
dan.
e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w http://www.danhirning.com
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Re: Neverending loop
Hello Peter, On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 1:03:06 PM you [PE] wrote (at least in part): PE Tonight received a message which cause an AV in The Bat! PE It is the last message in the InBox. PE I have to reboot the computer after receiving it. PE The problem is that when The Bat is run it tries to display the same message PE that causes an AV. So I get the AV again. PE How do I delete this message so that I am not in a 'Neverending loop'? Try starting The Bat! with an appropriate command line parameter to change the folder at startup. Change the link you use to start The Bat! for it containing something like this: thebat.exe /focusu=joe;f=outbox replace 'joe' with the name of one of your accounts. Keep the quotes. Now disable Preview (View / Message Auto view or Ctrl+Shift+E) and you should be able to delete the message. HTH -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Pretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: half ot: imergensy cry from a nod32 evaluator
Allie- Well, I actually didn't configure anything, just ran it straight from the installation. Now that I look at the settings, I see that I don't have the try to clean first box checked, just the display a warning panel. That alerts me that a virus has been detected (but not executed, thanks to TB) and I go in and delete it by hand. My guess is that probably if I did go ahead and let NOD32 try to clean the virus out of the temp folder it would indeed mess things up for TB. Since it works for me now just the way I want it to I'm not about to change things to experiment... -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Neverending loop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, December 01, 2002 Peter Palmreuther stated: PP Now disable Preview (View / Message Auto view or PP Ctrl+Shift+E) and you should be able to delete the message. If you can, before deleting it, send it as an attachement to [Help].[Feedback].[Bug Report] -- dragdrop the offending message onto the report and give a brief explanation of what was going on. This may be something to look at and hopefully patch. If it is causing you a BOD then it is serious. Cheers Yall \\' Running TB! version 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows 2000 5.0 on a 500mhz P-III wtih 512mb Ram -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPeq7IJbaVbYeHoVgEQKdnwCg9fODk6CXhko/tehVQ15GIx27qNAAnRXG OPJb6c2FK08+o6jrv1x2Pnb0 =WfQo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: html mailto bug
Marck- Saturday, November 30, 2002, 5:59:30 PM, you wrote: MDP If you are confident with RegEdit, find the mailto key in MDP HK_CLASSES. Navigate to the Command sub-key and edit the default to MDP enclose the %1 parameter at the end of TB command line to be MDP enclosed in double quotes. No, that's what I was saying. I did that and the effect is still the same. I also changed all the other instances of mailto in the USER hierarchies just to make sure and it still works the sameer doesn't work the same. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Long line
If you take a paragraph that is formatted fine, could you turn it into one long logical line, as you've probably seen many a time? I'm not sure what Utilities could do it. Basic opposite of ALT L I guess. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
Hello Lars, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:15:37 +0100 GMT (02/12/02, 00:15 +0700 GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG This should more or less automate deleting downloaded mail from the LG server. PP No. Sadly it wont. The Delete from server would issue the 'DELE' PP command, but if his line is dropped after 20 minutes the POP3 PP session is shut down improperly and the server therefore ignores all PP DELE commands. Yes, it will. If a filter is set to delete messages from the server, it will only do so during the next mail check after the filter was triggered (I just tested this, just to be sure). If the line is dropped again at the next mail check, will TB remember to issue this command every time again, until the message is successfully deleted from the server? If I understand Thomas correctly, his line isn't dropped every time he fetches his mail. Once I have downloaded all mails, the next check would go without problems, i.e. the connection finished by TB's issuing the QUIT command. At this moment, this is still a few MB (read: 2 or 3 mailcheck sessions) away for today. OK, I knew that already. But I assumed that -- having downloaded most of the mails already -- Thomas' connection wouldn't reach the 20 minutes limit during a subsequent mail check and therefore *would* delete the messages when the connection is closed correctly. Yes, but usually not during the mail session immediately following the one in which the mail was deleted then. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello Mary, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:06:31 -0600 GMT (02/12/02, 07:06 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: With a little help from several of you, I have all my fonts enlarged to 12 or 14 pt bold (note aside, to Miguel, not bald :) ) including message pane and headers and folder tree and message list--except: boxes such as Move Message to Folder. Can anyone tell me where those choices are hidden? I am not aware of customisable fonts for pop-up boxes. However, you might want to consider a third-party software that magnifies *all* Windows fonts across all applications. This is used by people who have difficulties reading the small standard fonts. I forgot the name of a program that does this (got this info from an ML for visually impaired computer users quite some time ago and my memory isn't that good any more either), but I am sure you can find something on google. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. How can I miss you if you won't go away? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello Mary, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 8:36:31 PM, you wrote: MB With a little help from several of you, I have all my fonts MB enlarged to 12 or 14 pt bold (note aside, to Miguel, not MB bald :) ) including message pane and headers and folder tree MB and message list--except: boxes such as Move Message to MB Folder. Can anyone tell me where those choices are hidden? They do seem a bit hidden. But you do know you can just drag messages to any folder? Your mouse cursor turns into a white stop sign. And you can drag whatever messages you've selected, to any part of the tree. Hit ESCape if you change your mind before dropping. My guess is most people keep manual moving to a minimum, and move around mostly by filtering. I'd wonder though if some can get by mostly without moving messages at all. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 8:14:08 PM, you wrote: big snip TF I am not aware of customisable fonts for pop-up boxes. TF However, you might want to consider a third-party software that TF magnifies *all* Windows fonts across all applications. TF ... TF ... I forgot the name of a program that does this (got this info from TF an ML for visually impaired computer users ... I didn't mean to give the impression that I could be classified as visually impaired. I do have a handicapped tag for my auto, but that is because of the back injuries in an old automobile wreck. And I don't drive after dark. But I think almost anyone would be better off not to have to read 8 pt type for long periods. It's one thing to be looking up a number in the phone book, another to be enjoying e-mail by the hour. :) This is something the programmers might consider addressing? Get all the font fixes in one menu? And offer font customizing in the pop-up boxes? TF ... quite some time ago and my TF memory isn't that good any more either), ... Would you like to match senior moments with me? Just teasing, Thomas, I am sure your memory is excellent. :) TF ... but I am sure you can find something TF on google. Yes. I hadn't even thought of a third-party program before. I will check it out on Google. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello Adam, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 8:23:21 PM, you wrote: snip MB ... Can anyone tell me where those choices are hidden? A They do seem a bit hidden. But you do know you can just drag messages A to any folder? ... Do you mean from the Message List or from the Preview Pane or from the Opened Message? A Hit ESCape if you change your mind before dropping. A My guess is most people keep manual moving to a minimum, and move A around mostly by filtering. ... I don't wish to switch the topic--probably should start a new thread. But by way of explanation, I have only been using TB since October 15, 2002, and have only had a good, complete copy since early November. So I'm very much a newbie and learner and great mistake-maker. But everyone tries to be so helpful, and mostly they are. I am not doing filters yet. I deal with all my mail from the Mail Dispatcher and the In-Box. That's why I'm manually moving so many folders. I guess I'll have to take the plunge pretty soon and learn to do filters. I am scared of losing mail. The one filter I made, back in October, right away lost an important mail from my sister. No problem, she re-sent it. But I am still timid about learning how to make filters. Thanks for writing. -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up WAB
Hello , -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 02, 2002, at 4:32:16 AM PST, Granville Cousins wrote: What is the best way of backing up The Bat! with regard to email messages and the address book? Tools/Backup Also how do I import my address book from Outlook Express into my Bat! address book. Get wab2ldif.exe here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ That utility should help you import your OE address book into TB! Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE96uZijVbXUvsE8ukRAv02AKCFrNRokkgoTH3lFYCRGG++PPR5mwCgiFXW ZXc0B2/xy6x6M9yKpkj1yDo= =cB52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Thanks Melissa, I'll give this a try. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fonts in Move Message to Folder box
Hello Mary, On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:32:07 -0600 GMT (02/12/02, 10:32 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: I didn't mean to give the impression that I could be classified as visually impaired. I could not have made this assumption, so I didn't. What I said is that there is a program that visually impaired people use, and you might want to look into it. You know, you don't have to prove anything about your eyesight before you download it. ;-) But I think almost anyone would be better off not to have to read 8 pt type for long periods. It's one thing to be looking up a number in the phone book, another to be enjoying e-mail by the hour. :) This is something the programmers might consider addressing? I actually use all the original-size fonts in my messages list etc. Get all the font fixes in one menu? That has been addressed (and the current problem that you have to look around in several different menus to change fonts has been sufficiently ridiculed). I once posted a list here, showing which fonts have to be changed in which menu. I'll search for it later, have to hurry now. Would you like to match senior moments with me? Just teasing, Thomas, I am sure your memory is excellent. :) Ever heard of Gingko Biloba? g TF ... but I am sure you can find something on google. Yes. I hadn't even thought of a third-party program before. I will check it out on Google. Good luck. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Desktop Publishing: Ein Phaenomen, das bewirkt, dass ehemals sauber getippte Briefe heute so aussehen wie miserabel gestaltete Postwurfsendungen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Http URL
Hello Roman, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 9:59:46 AM, you wrote: : Try it the other way around, make IE the default browser. Roman One could do that in IE prior to version 6 or at least it was more obvious. I checked the check if IE is default browser button. It didn't work. What I finally ended up doing was going through control panel and doing the reinstall/repair option. Then rebooted. Things are working again. I would like to know where it was in the registry. I looked in quit a few places trying the find option... Thanks for the suggestions. -- Cheers, Dean The Bat1.62 Beta/17 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up WAB
Hello Jim, Sunday, December 1, 2002, 10:27:09 AM, you wrote: JL Hello Melissa, JL Sunday, December 1, 2002, 6:07:51 PM, you wrote: MR I'm not sure if this is still necessary with newer versions of TB!, MR but when I got my mother to switch from OE to TB!, I found a little MR utility called wab2ldif.exe JL Thanks very much. I searched for and found the file. It worked JL perfectly... JL I owe you a beer Hello tbudl, What is the best way of backing up The Bat! with regard to email messages and the address book? Also how do I import my address book from Outlook Express into my Bat! address book. Can I do this without double entering contacts if their address is already in my Bat! address book? What is LDIF format? Thanks. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
