Re: diary
Hello Leif, Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 9:14:22 AM, you wrote: LG Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the LG TBOT list to maintain threading.) LG Thank you. LG /moderator What is the address for subscribing to TBOT? -- Best regards, Freddiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Losing blank lines (%- macro?)
Hi Marck, On Fri, 08 Aug 2003, at 13:16:59 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:16 where I live) you wrote: Does that make it any clearer for you? Thanks. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Watch where you go...remember where you've been... Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help creating a filter
Hello Steve, Thursday, August 14, 2003, 10:04:34 AM, you wrote: SMS I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with creating SMS a rule. Essentially, I'm wanting to have a sound play whenever SMS mail is received from a specific person. THat's the easy part, SMS however, the person I have in mind often posts to mailing lists, SMS so I would want other rules to be executed. I guess my question SMS is do I need to be careful where I place the rule in the list of SMS rules? Do I need to check the override box? What you'll want to do is place the sound filter at the top of your filter list (or at least above any filters that might move this person's message). Then on the Options Tab of the sound filter, check the box Continue Processing with other Filters. Make sure you don't move the message to another box on the Rule tab. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help creating a filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SMS I guess my question is do I need to be careful where I place the SMS rule in the list of rules? Well, if the only action you want to take is to play the sound file, I'd put my rule near the top of the list. SMS Do I need to check the override box? ? I don't know what you mean by this. You /will/ need to check the 'Contibute Processing ...' box - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Any given program will expand to fill all the available memory. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPzu1/9ttnLhkydF1EQJJeQCg446l5psUbTkTg7kOdKB/jIkfgkAAoJo8 O41ukniSOfj8jak3CboamDAI =GEzk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's messages appearing as duplicates lately
Hello Marck! On Thursday, August 14, 2003, 3:36 AM, you wrote: MB Marck, I'm still getting my feet wet on making filters. ... M The one for TBUDL is spelled out in the TBUDL welcome message and M also in the online list information page. If you make a filter for M TBUDL according to those instructions then copy the filter and M amending the crucial bits for TBOT you should be in the pink. :-) Okay, thanks a bunch! I'm going to do it now. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
Hello Jan Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 4:49:22 PM, in which you wrote: JR Take a look @ Ariadne. It's an interesting program works JR great depending on your needs work habits. JR http://www.open-sft.com/ It looks good but why no mention of price? -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Leif's messages appearing as duplicates lately
Hello Leif! Below are the message IDs of the latest I've received from you on tbudl as pairs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] There have been 3 like this so far, this afternoon. (Not complaining, the more of you the merrier! :), but just thought you'd like to know.) In each you have said you are sending a CC to tbot. So I wonder if it's related to that, because your other messages today have come in as singles. I wonder if my longstanding filters are misfiring: the source headers seem to show the second message as being sent to tbot. But it came to my tbudl folder and there is no CC in the tbot folder. Any thoughts? -- Best regards, Technically curious Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)
Hello Patricia, Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 9:06:22 PM, you wrote: P Sorry for top posting before, I forgot! Oops, I had modded your top post before I saw your apology. Ahem, I hate to do this twice in a row to you, but... grin moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Patricia. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimeter in your templates. Thank you. moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 9:23 AM, you wrote: LT I'm happy having switched from outlook to the bat, but now I need a LT good calendar/diary/agenda programme. PC do a google search for PIM, there are plenty out there. PC I have a real old version of Lotus Organizer, but just recently someone PC mentioned a sourceforge utility, but I can't seem to find my reference PC to it, and I installed it!!! drove me crazy, but I finally remembered!!! Mozilla now has split up its browser into separate applications. The Browser alone is now Firebird. There is also a new Calendar app called Sunbird: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030802 Mozilla Sunbird/0.1 yet, I couldn't find a link anywhere on the mozill.org site, go figure! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
diary
Hi, I'm happy having switched from outlook to the bat, but now I need a good calendar/diary/agenda programme. Any suggestions? -- Muy atentamente, Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design http://www.peng.nl http://www.gran-canaria-info.com http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com phone: +34 680 641368 Calle Tajo 50, Caserones Altos 35218 Telde Gran Canaria Spain Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
Hello Jan, Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 9:49:22 AM, you wrote: JR Take a look @ Ariadne. It's an interesting program works great JR depending on your needs work habits. http://www.open-sft.com/ moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jan. This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's messages appearing as duplicates lately
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Leif, @13-Aug-2003, 15:42 -0600 (22:42 UK time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Mary: MB Below are the message IDs of the latest I've received from you on MB tbudl as pairs: Any thoughts? LG It's because I like you so much that I make sure you get two of LG everything I send... grin LG Well, ok, here's the real reason. ... snip LG .. because your filter for TBUDL is firing true because TBUDL is LG in the TO field, and TBOT is in the CC field. What should happen LG is that one goes to TBUDL and one goes to TBOT. There's really LG not an easy way to fix this in filters. er - actually there is. The way is to filter on Reply-to: tbudl for tbudl messages and Reply-to: TBOT for tbot messages - both filtering on kludges. It never misses! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzrBRznkJKuSnc2gEQJ/UwCbBPvIMVBk5JIsimJFX+30CxZUnBYAn30L 9UJWK1jcUH7BjyHIxe4LlhNN =oWyy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 8:41 AM, you wrote: LT I'm happy having switched from outlook to the bat, but now I need a LT good calendar/diary/agenda programme. LT Any suggestions? do a google search for PIM, there are plenty out there. I have a real old version of Lotus Organizer, but just recently someone mentioned a sourceforge utility, but I can't seem to find my reference to it, and I installed it!!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Re: BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: into somethingelse?
Leif- Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 10:09:35 AM, you wrote: MW /there's a trout about LG Yep, you're right! grin Damn... could have sworn I changed the template the last time... OK - this one should be trout-free. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! wins 2003 SIC award...
Hello Michael, On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:39:58 -0700 GMT (13/08/2003, 23:39 +0700 GMT), Michael R Kizer wrote: Just saw that The Bat! won for Best Web Enhancement (that seems odd)... http://www.sic.org/2003nominees.asp I don't know why Ragnarok (www.ragnarok.co.kr - use the drop-down box at the top and choose International for English) is not mentioned under the Games section. Over here, it is so popular that the government is considering to block the site after 10pm, so that teenagers don't get hooked all night. :-) http://search.bangkokpost.co.th/bkkpost/2003/july2003/bp20030708/news/08jul2003_news07.html -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wie man sich fettet, so wiegt man. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dupes dupes dupes!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, @8-Aug-2003, 19:45 -0500 (01:45 UK time) Allie Martin [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP The only consolation is that this *is* the last time it will MDP happen. A Ok. But what about the dupes problem. Isn't it really odd that A TB! will ignore them, unless the duplicates are in different A folders? It sounds to me like a trick of the server - that it is allocating a rash of message IDs all of its own choosing at point of download instead of preserving the originals. Otherwise Kill dupes will work. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzRJ0znkJKuSnc2gEQKIAwCg0hNzsPkSrtJRMvPd9/SLKPNsipkAnAlE CGHWz6IIIk9tKr0fRGDaggIR =sC5r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sender info on reply's and forwards
Alex: I checked off everything under the view menu, message headers and made no difference. I think we are not talking about the same issue. I need the date,time, sender email address name to show up when I hit reply or forward. That is not happening. I just have the text of the senders email showing and nothing else. not sure how to describe it any other way. 05-Aug-2003 21:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure what you are talking about on the view menu. I tried adding the header info but that takes up about 20 lines and really don't care about all that info. I just want to see the basics, reply to email address, sender name, date time. The View Menu has a submenu Message Header, you can check whichever items you like/need to see. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It is one of the superstitions of the human mind to have imagined that virginity could be a virtue. -- Voltaire Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to Send w/o Confirmation Dialog Box
Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 10:46:38 AM, Joe wrote: JC 2. Is there a way to make the 'Edit Mail Message' window JC come up at a size that does not require horizontal JC scrolling? Again - it's a nuisance to have to resize the JC window to keep from scrolling. My version, 1.62r, remembers the size of the window from the last time I used it. Resize once, remember forever! :) -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to Send w/o Confirmation Dialog Box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joe, @6-Aug-2003, 09:38 -0500 (15:38 UK time) Joe Claborn [JC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: JC I'm new to TB - Welcome! JC 1. Is there a way to send a message without getting the JC confirmation dialog box? Account | Properties | Options | Message Editor Settings | Confirm immediate sending. JC 2. Is there a way to make the 'Edit Mail Message' window come up JC at a size that does not require horizontal scrolling? When you're in the edit message window, select 'View' from the menu and check Store window position. Odd that you should need this. The windows normally come up plenty wide enough at 1024x768. :-/ - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzEWWDnkJKuSnc2gEQK8awCgzcNFs6JjL7zxrUTXpbHmoNP7YHUAoPvz 7/qV1yFXyQPAbgwXLByTsBih =7qD2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sender info on reply's and forwards
cannot see sender info (name,email address, date, or time) on reply's or forwarded messages. how can i turn on that functionality? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The drop-down list auto-complete
On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 1:53 PM, Allie wrote: Is it that you wish to delete entries in the drop downlist: Hit the little arrow to display the drop down list, use the down and up arrow keys to navigate the entries, then hit the delete key to delete entries. This option. I was using my mouse and not the arrow keys. I couldn't get it to work. Using the arrow keys, it worked like a charm. Thanks a lot, Allie. I'm off to practice less use of the mouse. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Account and %from
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dear Ravi/Shell-Shocked, RSS In my AB Templates, when using the %ACCOUNT macro, why is it RSS that the %From macro usually has no effect? Because this *was* the way the account macro worked. In the new (upcoming) version, it works as expected because the template processor has been rewritten from scratch. - -- Regards, Stefan ...Life is like riding a bicycle. You don't fall off unless you stop peddling. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQIVAwUBPzByaxdVrmjoEBv9AQGtIQ/7BiVfqnyIt2rGpcvw1h7aDHb+7nFn2BrD TKkCmadRTJAteEaSv5wzfO9qx6pTqPpG8i33stiH9GoTbifIevJTj1jnOM0XeWIH I6CXrApI8nkHZJJQlivPz8+nrAiQr6/6B8DmQ/cNbIYsYsG6RYd66thQjxTgNSuD c+vJXdQl446mdUBWvm46j3iY5MMFDH+xwGJY7MUa8ErEKtsBKAHKYr1A447xdjyP rWLen69Q4TD4b9MDtmDV4Hcty4IMlML3d2akci2whZ6rXTiS+CCYBIOIDGU/38Td ZFI42W4Sm2iaa2b5ZSORgOlNW8BC9H/M8lKSx1A+s5S1uO/2UAcMu/NEWMDEua8f wzzK3Yd0huIXNJ0Lo/MaXhkb7SFgALecqb4+OvkDu9XhDKXdAgsrjCp4uFbTc8qM jYg6Qj2DXIYI6qSdjztoow/0LN7paVfgi6ctKBuUsGpjhJugJ0cYTY5iSZq2DQq8 Msd2WR5iGN1QEKGrEZY4fNOd1Fm5/5iiFiTc+Vud2YtaHtuSQJgSVxIS+Xaly+zh 83h2A/dVl50+o7DCk7lxcLGDLhUXi3Fx5phz/0Q+RaDKvnMW3+55PzRG/0Kv26nE xN+6pzSkLVHbuoZzwYnkby6iz+F84T1nuqZu5CQYFpoo9YTCdXHiB1xqJ9YNlS2b M+eWDvRBEWM= =SgeA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to latest release build failed: Unable to access my extra folders
Hello Greg, What Tero should probably do is simply recreate the folder in the release version. I recreated the folders of one of my accounts with the relase version, but noticed that filters were not functioning anymore, because my old folder structure is not valid anymore. Okay, I remapped folders to reflect the recreated ones and got my TB installation back to the track - Whee :-) After that I tried 2.0 Beta, but it could not find the folders I just created with the release version ! Then I tried the very same trick than with the release version: I recreated the folders, but got an error message telling me I can't create a folder, because it's out of the IMAP root. Is there some way I could use to transfer my messages in my local folders to the ones on my IMAP server - Maybe some automated tool perhaps ? The actual problem is that I cannot see my local folders. It will be quite a big job to do the changes manually to all of my ten accounts. Kind regards, Tero Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
wrap on received text message?
Hello TBUDL, Is there any way to turn off the auto wrapping on a message that was received? I know you can turn this feature off when editing a message with Sft+Ctrl+W which will toggle auto-wrap. I want to know if it is possible on a received message. Maybe I missed it somewhere, but I've done a quick look in help and across menu structure. TIA! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting Bat messages to outlook
What I would do would be to convert all your messages to UNIX format (or whatever it is called), and copy these files into the mail folder of a netscape 4.7x installation ; run your netscape so that it builds up the folder structure. Then in outlook do a file/Import and export/Import Internet mail and addresses/Netscape Messenger 4.0x, etc... This is a long process, but it should work. -Original Message- From: Francis Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:31:58 -0400 Subject: Exporting Bat messages to outlook Hello all, Is there a way to export messages to Outlook (not express)? I see three options in the export, but I do not see a corresponding selection in Outlook (e.g. .msg or .eml). Thanks Francis Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sender info on reply's and forwards
Hi Tom: Not sure what you are talking about on the view menu. I tried adding the header info but that takes up about 20 lines and really don't care about all that info. I just want to see the basics, reply to email address, sender name, date time. I am getting confused w/all the suggestions. Some are telling me to go to templated and set it up from there. The bat instructions are not too clear. Thanks for your help though. I Cor 10:31 ** Eric Santon Coach Tri City Baseball League 6th 7th A Division email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 816.246.1216 Fax: 816.554.9341 ** Hello Eric, On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:11:58 -0500 GMT (05/08/2003, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Eric Santon wrote: cannot see sender info (name,email address, date, or time) on reply's or forwarded messages. how can i turn on that functionality? Ever tried the View menu in the editor? Whatever you activate will be stored as your preferecne. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ich bin ferner mit meinen Nerven am Ende und habe mit einer schweren Kastritis zu tun. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Account and %from
On Tuesday, August 05, 2003, Ravi/Shell-Shocked wrote... %FROM=ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] %ACCOUNT=[EMAIL PROTECTED] But whenever I create a new message, the from address isn't changed. It's the order. Swap them round... and also reset From as well... so it'd read: %ACCOUNT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %FROM=%FROM=ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a similar issue, and found the account macro would always reset everything. Swapping it to that order fixed it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I before E except after C, huh? Weird. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Negative macro?
Hallo John, On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:10:18 +1000GMT (8-8-03, 15:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP I need a macro, or an expression, so that postings will not send a JP CC to an account. JP Is such a thing possible at all? Well, the only way to CC a message is to explicitely tell TB to do so in your template (or inserting the CC-address manually) So in order to refrain from sending CC's, don't use the %CC-macro in those messages. It's possible that %CC= might empty the CC-header, but it would be rather silly to use that after you've entered a cc with the same macro. It is possible of course to use the %CC= macro in combination with %if -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Using SSH with TB!
Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 12:38:51 PM, Roberto wrote: R Worked like a charm! Thought I'd also report that it worked R with Plink (from the same people that make Putty), using the R same command line options. Unfortunately I also need to keep a R command window open with the connection, tried several options R but looks like that's the way it works. Thanks for the plink suggestion. That works for me, also. I found the -pw option to include the password on the command line (not secure, I know). This allowed me to fire off a ssh connection without being prompted for anything. I tried putting this on an outgoing filter on items put in the Outbox by setting it as the external program to run in the Account!Filters!Actions tab. Here's what I hoped TB! would do: 1. See the message in the Outbox 2. Trigger my sshSend filter (and match the message) 3. Run the external program (plink to establish ssh) 4. Send the message There may be a timing issue between 3 4. It takes a second or so to establish the connection. I don't know how to tell TB! when the connection is up. When I press Send the letter, TB! comes back immediately with Could not connect to server and the message remains in the Outbox. I right click on the folder and choose Refilter messages... check Outgoing mail - a dos-like window appears for a couple of seconds and the message disappears from the Outbox. But, I don't know where the message went! It was a test message to myself and it never makes it to the server as far as I can tell. How can I tell what a filter did with a message? The log doesn't say much other than that a filter was run. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sender info on reply's and forwards
Hello Eric, On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:11:58 -0500 GMT (05/08/2003, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Eric Santon wrote: cannot see sender info (name,email address, date, or time) on reply's or forwarded messages. how can i turn on that functionality? Ever tried the View menu in the editor? Whatever you activate will be stored as your preferecne. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ich bin ferner mit meinen Nerven am Ende und habe mit einer schweren Kastritis zu tun. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: always get recipient's full name from my addrbook?
On Mon 11-Aug-03 6:57pm -0400, Samson wrote: DG Hello %ABOFromFirstName %ABOFromLastName this works perfectly. appreciate. Hmm, what if the address wasn't in your book? How about: Hello %ABoFromName=%oFromName i searched over the help file and macro list, couldn't find any references for these %AB* macros. any idea where i can find a complete manual of macros, including these %AB* things? There's a complete list in Help. In Index, type macro and pick full alphabetic list. It even explains what I wrote above. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Question about how the bat inserts names
Not sure what it's called, but in the script/template, where it has the code to insert the name from the e-mail, I have a few friends who have a ~ or * in front of the name, but it only picks up that or they have ~name name~ and it only sees ~name, is there a way to fix this? Patricia Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: dupes dupes dupes!
Sunday, August 10, 2003, 8:44:04 PM, you wrote: AM Examine the dupes and see if they have the same message id's and AM creation dates. Once those are the same, TB! really aught to be getting AM rid of the duplicates. Unfortunately I've deleted the messages now in my massive cleaning-up exercise. I remember that the creation dates were identical, though I didn't check the message IDs. Thanks for your help. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Re: BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: intosomething else?
Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 1:09:35 PM, Leif wrote: L Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 11:05:22 AM, Mark wrote: MW It might be nice to add to your canned response a note about how MW to get on TBOT L Good idea. Thanks. And the instructions are ? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: can I change RE: into something else?
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 12:26:19 PM, Spike wrote: S I refuse to deal with fancified and bloated HTML mail, especially S with all the security risks they introduce. Half of my clients were S hit with BLASTER yesterday, and I am laughing hysterically at all of S them that I warned and tried to switch to TB! Those that listened are S humming along without a care :-) So if I'm running *only* TB, on Win2K, I don't need to worry about this Blaster thing, right? 'Cause I've been trying to update my virus definitions on AVG all morning not getting anywhere :-( -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete a message without sending it to Trash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ciprian, @5-Aug-2003, 11:43 +0300 (09:43 UK time) Ciprian Trofin [CT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CT Sending them to Trash and deleting the trash afterwards is CT time-consuming. If you use the filter action of Delete the message instead of Move to trash then it will just disappear without trace. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPy94VTnkJKuSnc2gEQJDHwCfWPwdHTg2VY7cBWAeCtBWZGU86nQAoPYy BMhOmmC68wYCsclNTMmYawTh =Xbiy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ot: mail servers?
Hi Krister, On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, at 16:43:38 [GMT +0200] (which was 00:43 where I live) you wrote: As i am thinking about getting a domain i also think about getting my own mail server software. Could anyone advice on a free or low cost solution that could work under Win XP? Have a look at http://www.ocloudsoft.com/ Simple, works well, but not free! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Man loves little and often, woman much and rarely. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering on Date, Focus in Mailbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 11:29:02 PM, Deborah wrote: JC 2. When I select a Mail Folder to see the messages in, what JC determines which message get the focus? It would be nice if the JC first unread message would get the focus. Usually it will be whichever message in the folder had the focus the last time you had that folder open. In some cases, such as after a Purge, the focus seems to go back to the first message on the list. Yes - usually. And that's great. However, I noticed that when I delete all messages from the folder, and then folder get filled again, focus goes to random message; not always first on the list. It's a bit irritating, I select folder, and then have to mark message unread, move to the first message, and then start reading messages normally. I haven't been able to figure out the rule which is applied when first entering a folder after all messages have been deleted. Deleting lots of messages at once seems to make things worse. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPzJNNbgeqlQz+rfkEQJKBgCeIm1a4B+LoH3qycUifN1CJecQtboAniio hG9kyUDq4PmlgV1O849XRfql =gnd9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Account and %from
Because this *was* the way the account macro worked. In the new (upcoming) version, it works as expected because the template processor has been rewritten from scratch. Ok then. Thanks for clearing that up Stefan and Thomas. I'll consider moving to the beta. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) I am. Is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I Do. is the longest sentence? - George Carlin. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sender info on reply's and forwards
Hi Eric, on Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:11:58 -0500GMT (05.08.03, 18:11 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ES cannot see sender info (name,email address, date, or ES time) on reply's or forwarded messages. how can i turn ES on that functionality? Go to Account menu - Properties and select Templates. Edit the reply or forward template to your needs. By clicking the Macros... button you'll get the available macros. Is this what you meant? -- Cheers Peter Never try to outstubborn a cat. Winamp currently playing: Natasha St-Pier - Je T'aime Encore Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: importing addresses
Hello Lex, Monday, August 11, 2003, 12:13:27 PM, you wrote: LT don't get e-mailaddresses, although I've matched the fields. Tried a LT tab seperated file as well, same result. I've had similar results when using a program called Dawn. Dawn allowed me to convert my Outlook contacts into a Ldif file, but the Email addresses were missing. Also, only some of my Outlook folders got converted and I'm not sure what determined which folders would get converted. For now, I'm using the high-tech method of entering stuff by hand. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Hotmail Yahoo mail
Monday, August 11, 2003, 5:23:44 PM, you wrote: W An item of interest I noticed with web2pop and mrpostman. I download W hotmail and yahoomail. If I download both with the same tool, the W tool blows up after 2 or 3 sessions. Works fine for me though. three yahoo accounts and one hotmail. What version of web2pop did you try? -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: quick template: note
on Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:59:41 -0400 Bill McCarthy wrote: I've created a QuickTemplate that I use, when I have to send a note to a already sent mail: .-[ Paste ]- | | %Subject='note: %Subject' | %TO= | %IF: %OToName%OToAddr:%TO='%OToName %OToAddr':%TO='%OToAddr' | '--- I would like to also have the original template recreated with the new %TO entry. Is this possible? The only way I can see is %BLANK and rewrite, but that is not good, because of the different original templates. BM If you want to use your original template, I don't see why you want to BM change the To field. Because I hit reply, but don't want the mail to be sent to me, but to the original receiver of the mail I make the note on. BM If all you want to do is make a special change to the subject and BM clear the text area, you could simply manually enter a qt. If you BM call that qt note then type: notectrlspace Thanks, but that's not what I want. I want the %TO and %SUBJECT to be changed, but the template to be adjusted to the new To-name in the first line. Hope you'll get it. -- shinE! Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lex, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12 Aug 2003 11:05:13 (my local time 12:05:13), you typed: LT Could I change the RE: into something of my own language? Is there a LT macro somewhere? (haven't found one yet) I wouldn't do that if I were you. Outlook distress does this and this causes very, very long subject lines. For example: I'm from Sweden and OE translates re: to sv:, if i'm on an english speaking mailing list or use the sv: string to a mailer that uses re:, a subject line that has been used for a while could look something like: sv: re: sv: re: sv: re: sv: an awfully long subject line, and i don't think that's good. Of course, since TB is so flexible, you could use a macro and some filtering based on language, if that's possible. Just my 2 cents. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPzjvMDg5SXqDEzkLEQKYuQCeIeX4KskEGYLTSJzfUzWwI5/f5BMAnAyB AGbB+lLyoEZq0BlUwNKda1s1 =yf0P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stuck log file
Hello Allie, Saturday, August 9, 2003, 3:49:26 PM, you wrote: AM The only thing I can think of is to check the log file to see if AM write permissions have somehow been changed. The log file being AM set to read only will do this. That fixed it for me. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help creating a filter
Hi all, I'm wondering if someone might be able to assist me with creating a rule. Essentially, I'm wanting to have a sound play whenever mail is received from a specific person. THat's the easy part, however, the person I have in mind often posts to mailing lists, so I would want other rules to be executed. I guess my question is do I need to be careful where I place the rule in the list of rules? Do I need to check the override box? Any help greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smart card + S/MIME signing/encryption?
Hi, all! I've been able to open encrypted messages using my smart card, but so far, have had no luck getting The Bat! to sign and encrypt messages. Any suggestions, or is it not supported yet? I'm using Microsoft CrytoAPI with ActivCard Gold Cryptographic Service Provider. Using the internal implementation seems to keep signatures on incoming messages from being recognized as good, therefore I have to use the Microsoft implementation. On the other hand, the address book doesn't contain certificates when using the Microsoft implementation, and obviously, it's kinda hard to encrypt a message when the recipient's certificate isn't available in the address book. It can't even find a certificate to sign with. When using internal implementation, it can't find the issuer certificate, so it can't sign anything anyway. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62r under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using IMAP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm currently still on v1.63b11. I want to use the new version but I'm unsure about what I'm going to end up with. I get my office mail from an exchange server that doesn't have POP3 enabled so I get my mail using the old IMAP implementation and everything works just as I want it to. Now, if I move to v2b1 am I right in thinking that all the mail is going to stay on the server? I /don't/ want this as I often work from home and don't want to have to either dial in to reread a message or to export it so I can read it later. Our exchange server has a huge collection of folders only a handful of which I'm interested in. Do I have to let TB! tell me about all the crud as well as the bits of the folder hierarchy that I'm interested in? I use a lot of common folders to keep mail in and, ATM, incoming mail is automagically sorted by my filters. I understand that auto filtering of incoming messages currently doesn't work. Can I manually filter? Will auto filtering work soon? (I guess only the developers can answer that). - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPzjxxtttnLhkydF1EQIC7gCgiktEMQ17/fu3/GVQug6qhBd9f8oAoK3e I95KH4cNrfe2Puv+IdjW0aMG =ik7I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 1:05:28 PM, Spike wrote: S The risk is MINIMAL as long as you have not altered the S default settings in TB! This is under Options Preferences S Warnings. As long as you don't EXECUTE any questionable S attachment that comes through, you will probably be OK. I'm a little confused about by what you're saying. My reading of the MS bulletin says Blaster is a worm that propagates via the RPC ports. If you're on-line and nothing is blocking ports 135, 139, 445 you can get infected even without e-mail. Does Blaster also propagate via e-mail? If so, then TB!'s warnings about executing attachments will make a difference. PS - Thank you to Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] (neuroWerx) for his pointer to the Symantec Blaster scanner/removal tool. I'm running it now. Here's the link for others who might have missed that post: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.removal.tool.html H. The tool just crashed with a memory error after running for several minutes. Has anyone else run this? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: always get recipient's full name from my addrbook?
Hello all, thanks for the hint. i wasn't careful enough to find it :) it's the first line, listed as ABnnnPPP. (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) -- Best regards, Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, August 11, 2003, 6:04:52 PM, you wrote: SM Help, Help topics, Index, Index tab, Macros (Enter), Full alphabetic SM list of macros. The ones that you want are at the very top. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: running thebat in 2 different resolutions
Hello Carsten, CT You don't have to restart The Bat!. As another workaround just CT double click TB!'s title bar twice (fullscreen and restore) and the CT scroll bar appears. Thanks for the trick. it works. before i could find any command line option for this, i'll keep using this trick :) (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) -- Best regards, Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: quick template: note
on Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:11:55 -0400 Bill McCarthy wrote: BM Instead of replying to yourself, redirect and run your QT. You don't BM need the `%To=` in this case, since that field is blank. yes, that's great! Hope you'll get it. BM If not, I give up :-) Thank you. I knew it had to be easy.. :) -- shinE! Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: dupes dupes dupes!
Friday, August 8, 2003, 9:09:36 PM, you wrote: MDP It sounds to me like a trick of the server - that it is allocating a MDP rash of message IDs all of its own choosing at point of download MDP instead of preserving the originals. Otherwise Kill dupes will MDP work. Yeah, something must be wrong with the message IDs. It does not only happen with one server though - happens with myrealbox and yahoo/hotmail retrieved through web2pop. This made me think it was a TB problem rather than a server one. Sorry for the late replies..my network was down for a day. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @12-Aug-2003, 14:58 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: KE Umm, now look, I don't want to sound peckish, (or how you say) Picky or pedantic - unless you really mean a little hungry g. KE but the correct tag should be: Edwin_Star /Edwin_Star SH Yes, but you are assuming that I know that that was the name of SH the guy who first recorded it. I'd only just listen to another SH FGTH track and that name stuck. I believe they were two different songs. And the original was by the Temptations, of which Edwin Starr was but a member. They sang War? Huh! Good god, y'all! What is it good for? (absolutely nothin'). I don't recall FGTH covering that track but they did record Two Tribes, which IIRC made literary reference to the Temptation's earlier work. - -- Cheers, - .\\arck - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzkHbTnkJKuSnc2gEQKbsgCdG+DoFn01dRPQIzfo8ZyFs47YHcMAnA1n Ag7i8xRKv9QUlwoHpUZWiPqb =znNw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mapi (was: RE:Problems configuring Opera 7.11 to use The Bat asits email client)
Hi Dan! In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, August 9, 2003, 8:05:15 AM, you wrote: DG I am unfamiliar with mapi. I am a tinkerer, a cautious tinkerer, but DG nevertheless a tinkerer. And I wonder, DG1. What is mapi? DG2. Are there any advantages and/or disadvantages to installing TB as DG simple mapi request handler in my already working system. DG3. Could someone tell me about mapi and/or give me the URL of an DG English-language explanation of mapi. MAPI is Message API, and it's what Outlook uses to do the actual mail-moving. A lot of programs use MAPI instead of doing their own code to connect to various email servers and the like. Clicking the button results in TB!'s MAPI implementation to be used instead of te one that comes with Outlook/OE -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62r under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: how to put attachments back to message body?
Hello, i tried the trick today. it works. my steps are: 0. backup everything (always do this before any adventure) 1. set all accounts' setting to save attachments in msg body 2. tools/backup, backup everything, make sure store external attachments in msg body is checked. 3. click ok. depending on the number of mail, it might take a long time to finish. 4. now delete all accounts, as well as their folders (especially attach) 5. restore everything from the backup package 6. now everything should be back, and attachments are in msg body now (if you observe the *.tbb files, they are much larger, and there should not exist any attach folder) 7. this is just a double-check: make sure all accounts' settings are store attachemnts in msg body, so future incoming mail won't create attach dir. since we've changed this setting in step 1, before the backup (step 2), the settings should already be in msg body. that's it. so far everything works well. (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) -- Best regards, Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 9:05:24 PM, you wrote: S Hello Thomas, S Thanks for the reply. S I just searched some TBUDL old posts, someone said there is a way to S do it: use backup and restore. S the backup dialog has an option save attachments in msg body. so, S ideally, backup, delete all msgs, restore should work.. S i'll try it soon, and let you know how it goes. S (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @12-Aug-2003, 14:58 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: KE Umm, now look, I don't want to sound peckish, (or how you say) KE but the correct tag should be: Edwin_Star /Edwin_Star SH Yes, but you are assuming that I know that that was the name of the SH guy who first recorded it. I'd only just listen to another FGTH track SH and that name stuck. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stuart. OT alert! (do I hear a trout flapping?) - up to TBOT please - where I shall correct you both! /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzkGHznkJKuSnc2gEQKqkACfQPNmKKfDPRDSuZVa1YGYZokA/m0An3nT BrWCZsMLjlxEHuU3mVswYzQf =BxfJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: dupes dupes dupes!
Sunday, August 10, 2003, 11:58:24 PM, you wrote: TF No, I just checked, I have no dupes coming into my myrealbox.com TF account (see From address). Lucky you :) I get them very regularly, and am now on the lookout for another email client because I'm getting tired of this. I think I'll wait for the new version though..there are too many good things in TB. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: INBOX unreadable
Hello Allie. The file size of the broken messages.tbb is 130.012902 Mbytes and the messages.tbi is 7.126736 Mbytes. But I am a bit unsure about why there should be a problem with lack of regular compression could you please explain it a bit more. Thanks Peter AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM Hash: SHA1 AM Peter Olsen, [PO] wrote: PO So my conclusion to this is that some mail inside the broken PO message files, makes The Bat go crazy. Does anybody know how to PO solve this or how to repair the broken messges files AM What are the sizes of these files that you've replaced? AM One thing that could explain your problem is lack of regular compression AM of your Inbox folder. AM - -- AM -= allie_M =- | List Moderator AM _ AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- AM Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 AM iQA/AwUBPy7wM1fJ62ArBxfiEQIOOACgwGrjGqBOcpll9h13mYNpsGBz8DYAn3g0 AM hnAFLa0FAvSNs42N5CEuK0L0 AM =7ks/ AM -END PGP SIGNATURE- AM AM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sender info on reply's and forwards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Santon, [ES] wrote: ES Yes, that is what I needed. I will give that a shot. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Eric. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thanks very much for reading. :) /moderator - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPzAzgFfJ62ArBxfiEQKIPACg4CqlOjHVwtpPa4vI9KtguuhhvC8An2uz Vwgu7HebETfH0Ml+VnzAd7Ul =WRMA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's messages appearing as duplicates lately
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, @13-Aug-2003, 21:23 -0500 (03:23 UK time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: M The way is to filter on Reply-to: tbudl for tbudl messages M and Reply-to: TBOT for tbot messages - both filtering on M kludges. It never misses! MB Marck, I'm still getting my feet wet on making filters. I made MB these a few months back by clicking on Create Filter in the MB Specials menu of the message window. So, I guess I'll hie me to MB Silverstones and see if there's some tutoring there on how to do MB what you said above. :) The one for TBUDL is spelled out in the TBUDL welcome message and also in the online list information page. If you make a filter for TBUDL according to those instructions then copy the filter and amending the crucial bits for TBOT you should be in the pink. :-) - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPztKBTnkJKuSnc2gEQKrSgCgxhSyB8chMkVxeE24aEThL88JK3oAn0ji n7yppVz9wpR3A8dPlDvKQl4B =1xDZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using SSH with TB!
I want to tunnel my SMTP connection through SSH. I've successfully set this up, but want to modify it slightly. Rather than have a cygwin window open all the time with my SSH tunnel running, I'd like to launch the SSH connection only when I have an e-mail to send. How can I run an external command (launching SSH) each time when there is a message put in the Outbox? Other suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sender info on reply's and forwards
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 5:49:02 PM, Eric Santon wrote: How do I get the macros to come up? Where should I insert those into the template? If you go to the menu bar and select Account|Properties... you will be presented with a dialogue with a tree menu. Go to Templates and click on the +. You will then see the account templates. These will be used for the account folders by default, so they should contain the required macros. If they are blank, then one thing you could do is to create a new account and then copy the templates (simply by copying and pasting between the templates. It could be that you have a folder template (or perhaps an address book template, and you will find these under the properties for each folder (or address book) (the menu Folder:Properties). You can also cut and paste from another folder template, as above. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Losing blank lines (%- macro?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, @8-Aug-2003, 17:58 +1000 (08:58 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat: JP So how exactly does this macro, or more correctly, is this macro JP (%-) supposed to work, and where exactly do I put it? What it's supposed to do is to prevent a the end-of-line in a line of macro(s) in a quick template (or any kind of line) from putting a line feed into the resulting text. e.g. This%- %- is%- %- a%- %- line%- %- comes out as: Thisisaline Does that make it any clearer for you? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzOUvjnkJKuSnc2gEQLr5QCfUzydKfVmDLUai066vCxXJqz6NPUAoLab 9TcL4ruajNsnbHDZmwgx9+4t =YkLW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: INBOX unreadable
Hello all, Tuesday, August 5, 2003, SyP wrote: RITLabs created some time ago a mailbox repair utility. You can download it from http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/mbrepair.zip but this utility is intended for TB 1.41 and older, it will not work with version 1.42+, where was introduced new msgbase format for storing messages. I have tried this utility and it worked for me: http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/tbmrec.rar -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleted messages resurfacing when syncing
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, 2:08:39 PM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: Synchronizing seems to be working fine between my desktop and notebook, however, with regards to the Inbox, messages I've deleted seem to be resurfacing. Any idea why this is? Does the sync process just add mail -- what happens if I sort mail/delete mail, etc...? Synchronisation does not delete messages, but will add messages from the source machine (the installation at step 2) that are not on the destination (the installation at steps 1 and 3. If you have deleted messages on the destination (or moved them to another folder), but left them in the original locations on the source, they will be copied again, but not deleted. I tend to do synchs one way only to avoid this, and do an occasional backup of the pc installation and restore onto the laptop to match the message base and filter. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dupes dupes dupes!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, @8-Aug-2003, 19:37 -0500 (01:37 UK time) Allie Martin [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Vishal: V I am now stuck with over 1500 duplicate messages that kill V dupes in all folders completely ignores. Can anyone suggest V what I should do about this? A This is all very odd. ... not entirely :-). The fact is, that when you change store on server settings to not, the last message downloaded memory is reset and *all* messages still on the server are downloaded for a final time. The only consolation is that this *is* the last time it will happen. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzRDUDnkJKuSnc2gEQJtTQCgktVqbx+Jqfwp5UJV8Q41rYkFlDIAoKfl UTw3IqR3AQgWsNugF0HEAdLI =gpPF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dupes dupes dupes!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vishal, [V] wrote: V Apparently, though I had deleted them from trash locally, TB had not V yet correspondingly deleted them from the server. They were treated V as new messages (even though they had been downloaded SEVERAL times V by now). All sounds odd like the server doesn't work well with TB!. I used to do that sort of thing without any problems at all. V I am now stuck with over 1500 duplicate messages that kill dupes in V all folders completely ignores. Can anyone suggest what I should do V about this? This is all very odd. If you're downloading the same messages again, then they are duplicate messages and should therefore be deleted if they reside in the same folder. Since this is so strange, I have to ask the obvious. I assume the duplicates are in the same folder, right? - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPzRCVFfJ62ArBxfiEQJTQQCfWHbZUfIVvBkG2KwiE+rAPjkqpcAAn1e1 jcx8veCFGtO7yHlO1kY0FGWw =ECDw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Worm (Blaster) System restore on XP
well, after noting that my system restore function was turned off, and after running the wormblaster fixer ( no bug found), I tried to turn ON the system restore. My system hung and I had to reboot. Now I remember this problem from before. I was never able to turn system restore BACK ON!!! I found this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302479 This article was previously published under Q302479 SYMPTOMS If you have a computer with only one drive and that drive is configured as one partition, and then you modify the data store size by moving the slider bar under the System Restore tab on the System Properties dialog box and you click to select the Turn off System Restore check box to disable System Restore at the same time, you cannot close the System Properties dialog box after you have clicked OK. CAUSE This behavior can occur because the System Restore configuration user interface applies the disable change first, and then the data store size change. The data store size cannot be changed because System Restore is disabled, and so the configuration user interface returns an internal error back to the System Properties dialog box that prevents it from closing. I know it said TURN OFF system restore, but I can't turn it back on. I have tried starting in safe mode, and it says you can't change it in safe mode. and I only have 1 drive 1 partition. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NOT: Was Re: diary
OK, NOT: means NOT Off topic... (at least I don't think) If people wish to have an address book that integrates with TB!, then isn't that the wrong way of looking at it? TB! supports LDAP address books, so all you need to find is an address book that allows LDAP access. OR am I missing the point? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: dupes dupes dupes!
Hi Thomas, Friday, August 8, 2003, 12:32:38 PM, you wrote: TF It sound like web2pop creates new UIDs for the messages every time you TF invoke it. TB uses uses the UIDL to check whether messages have been TF downloaded yet. So it won't recognise messages downloaded earlier if TF the UIds are changed. TF I confirm there is no problem with real POP accounts. Actually there is. myrealbox.com does not have to go through web2pop, yet I see the same problem with that account. It is not restricted to my yahoo/hotmail ones. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: INBOX unreadable
Marck- But... some warnings... Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 2:16:11 AM, you wrote: MDP The messages.tbi file is safe to delete. In fact, it's far safer to MDP delete it than to replace it with an older copy. If it is missing, MDP TB will recreate it. MDP The result may yet reveal that the messages.tbb file has its own MDP problems, in which case the mailbox repair utility may help. ...always make a backup copy of both the .TBB and .TBI files before doing anything like this, just to be safe. You can always delete the copies later on. I've said yes to the repair? message and had it delete six months worth of emails. Having the backup files allowed me to get back to where I was and try some other options. MDP You certainly should set your Inbox folder to Compress on exit in MDP the Inbox folder options to ensure that it doesn't become clogged MDP with relics of moved/deleted messages. ...but not until you've cleared up the problem with your corrupted inbox, or else you'll never be able to shut down cleanly. And here's the story on compress: when you delete messages, they are only flagged for deletion, they are not actually removed from the .TBB file. You can see them later on by selecting Browse deleted messages from the menu. The compress command does the actual deletion and compaction of the database, but can take some time, depending on the number of deleted messages in the file. If you've never done this then the size of your .TBB file will probably decrease dramatically. Also TB will run faster, since there are fewer messages in the database to go through. The .TBI file contains, among other things, an index into the .TBB file for faster access. If something gets out of sync then you will get the rebuild message from TB. If there's no .TBI file then TB will generate a new one for you. This process takes a bit more time when starting up TB since it has to look at each message to get the message counts and headers. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Hotmail Yahoo mail
On Monday, August 11, 2003, 5:18 PM, you wrote: I'm using web2pop with TBV1.63/B5 and the new v2 beta. No problems here. and my yahoo account is pbcartwright TM How rare, i access Yahoo directly with Thebat! It seams that the Argentine TM pop and smtp servers are still free for use. TM POP:pop.mail.yahoo.com.ar TM Smtp: smtp.mail.yahoo.com.ar so how did you get an Argentine server?? I tried to create a POP account and use those servers, it didn't work. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 --cut here-- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Outgoing e-mail and an external program
Thursday, August 7, 2003, 7:11:28 PM, Wolffe wrote: W Or you could write a small script (perl?) that listens on a W specific port. When a message (email) is received on that W port, it is stored, the script forks a new process to open a W SSH tunnel, the message gets piped through, the tunnel is W closed and the forked process dies. You just need to set the W SMTP (send) port of TheBat! to the port you are listening on. W You could then set the script to run as a service. That's not a small script. It would have to handle the receiving part of the SMTP protocol when TB! sends the e-mail out. And when the script forwards the e-mail, it would have to handle the sending part of the SMTP protocol. Your suggestion sounds like all too much fun! :) Unfortunately, I'm not going to take the time to write a remailer. I looks like the answer is TB! can't do it without a feature enhancement or two. Bill McCarthy said in his post that he's requested pre-outbox filtering. That gets me part of the way there. I'd like to add an additional request for external programs: Requirement - Add the ability to specify how long TB! should wait for the external program to execute before sending the e-mail. [I know this is a timing hack, but it's simpler than trying to add prompt/response pair processing in conjunction with an external program. ] Where do I add this to the wish list? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: importing addresses
On Monday, August 11, 2003, 12:25 PM, you wrote LT What's the best/easiest way of importing addresses from outlook? I think the way I did it was to first import into Outlook EXPRESS. then TheBat. I seem to recall the same problem with no email addresses going from OL2K. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 HS-Link: Do unto others - bi-directionally! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Secret features
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 10:48:51 AM, Greg Strong wrote: I think. GS Like me, so until a new unregistered user verifies one way or the other GS we will both continue to think. :-) LOL - the I think applied to the a little over a year ago bit - I had no doubts about the multiple-account thing :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: synching mail not in inbox w/ palm
Hi Roberto: RM I tried doing that for a while, but unfortunately the Palm Mail RM conduit only grabs stuff from the 'Inbox' folder. Which if you are RM like me it's empty most of the time as most of the stuff is filtered RM over to the folder tree. There's no way to make it sync with any other RM folder. That is pretty limited. It makes sense to have support for additional folders. When I travel, there are particular e-mails I want to take with me for reference. It would be nice to keep those e-mails filtered into their own folder. I could save them as text files but it would be nice to keep them in e-mail format to forward or reply to. RM Sending out e-mail is pretty decent since it just places e-mail in the RM Outbox and out it goes. For most minor, last minute or over the cup of RM coffee e-mails that's good enough. RM Loong time ago, I offered to make a conduit for TB!'s AddressBook and RM E-mail (into a folder aware app). But for that to be done efficiently RM I needed the native formats of the databases. Got no response from RM Ritlabs :( even after offering to do it for free. That's a shame. RM That's the only thing that I'm missing from the TB! otherwise it's RM perfect ;). I could not agree more! I understand that theBat!'s motto is to keep it simple and perhaps getting into the business of syncing with PDA's may complicate matters. Nevertheless, if a greater customer base would be willing to use theBat! because it would make e-mail handling simpler WHILE NOT TAKING AWAY some necessary e-mail features (e.g., syncing), I think it is a worthwhile endeavor. I got an Axim for Christmas and had been an unhappy Outlook user for some time. Every once in a while I would switch to Netscape but found myself forced to Use Outlook because of the Calender/E-mail integration. When I saw theBat! supports Calendar/E-mail integration (in a limited sense) and would be expanding on it, I decided to purchase it. However, I do miss having contacts in my PDA address book. Because I got rid of Outlook the PDA erased them! I also miss not being able to take my e-mails with me on road. If theBat! added the ability to Sync, Outlook would lose any comparison, hands down. I would also be willing to pay for this extra functionality even as an addon to theBat! - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Hotmail Yahoo mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Spike, On Monday, August 11, 2003 at 13:59 GMT -0500, Spike [S] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S The author of web2pop has ignored my repeated requests for S information or a fix, which is pretty shabby considering I PAID for S the privilege! Can anyone provide some enlightenment on this? I also registered Web2Pop and found the customer support nonexistent. S Alternatives for Yahoo?? YahooPops ... free ... works like a charm. http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/ - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.0 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/N++VRbTFvUNHmLkRAoGiAKDFmReAVmCs0Qao4KoxmUshHypX9gCfb2qr m4SOMCCPDBFNHOGc9xzhIH4= =gRFj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
12-Aug-2003 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Whats the status, anyway? Can someone lighten me up? :) I just wonder as A there's a 1.63beta-xx, AND a 2.0beta-x now... For most accurate information join TBBETA. :-) I didn't mean information about the beta, but what will the next release version be? 1.63 final? 2.0? The latter sounds like a bigger step to me... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If all the drugs in the pharmacopoeia, with a few exceptions, were thrown into the sea, it would be better for mankind and the worse for the fishes. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, Krister Ekstrom wrote: For example: I'm from Sweden snip Just my 2 cents. I see you have already made up your mind on how to vote :-) For you non-Swedes: We will vote on the EMU in September. -- Urban Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
On Wed 13-Aug-03 8:41am -0400, Lex Thoonen wrote: Hi, I'm happy having switched from outlook to the bat, but now I need a good calendar/diary/agenda programme. Any suggestions? I've used WinDates for years and like it as a calendar and appointment/event reminder. It's not a PIM and not free ($20). It supports events for all users on a network as well as personal events. There's a free trial to see if you like it: http://www.rockinsoftware.com/windates.htm -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: INBOX unreadable
Hello Peter Olsen, You wrote on 2003.08.05., 0:06: Peter Does anybody know how to solve this or how to repair the broken Peter messges files Or you could try the built-in repair: Folder-Maintenance-Check Integrity/Repair. I don't remember it it's in the version you use or it's functionality existing only in new betas. That is however what Stefan suggested. Cheers, SyP -- Too much month at the end of the money. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 7:20:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I can't run it at all, since i can for the life of me not find the system restore thing on my Win XP Pro. Where should i look for it? Cymantec said you should turn it off, but as i said i can't even find it, so i don't know if i've got it. According to Woody's Windows Watch, you should open the Task Manager and look at the Process list. If you have msblast.exe running then you are probably infected. The removal tool will remove the program from your system - ending the process will stop it until the next reboot. You can find the most recent version of Woody's Windows Watch (WWW #6.14 - Getting Blaster'd) at http://www.woodyswatch.com/windows/archtemplate.asp?6-14 which contains lots of information on Blaster and what you can do. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: dupes dupes dupes!
Friday, August 8, 2003, 8:37:38 PM, you wrote: AM . Since this is so strange, I have to ask the AM obvious. I assume the duplicates are in the same folder, right? Yep, they sure are. Same folder..even get arranged right next to each other when i sort on date or anything else. -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Hi Lex, on Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:05:13 +0100GMT (12.08.03, 12:05 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : LT Could I change the RE: into something of my own language? Is there a LT macro somewhere? (haven't found one yet) I'm sure it can be done with Regular Expressions, but I don't understand them well enough to say exactly how... LT As well, what does the numbering exactly do, when it says RE(3): for LT example. I guess it's something to do with threading, but what is it LT good for exactly? I see no use for the numbering of replies. You can turn it off altogether in Account -- Properties -- Templates -- Reply by unchecking the entry or you can insert the macro %SINGLERE anywhere in a particular reply template. -- Cheers Peter It takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. Mark Twain Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing common folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MDP Not really - not unless you have folders that have gone missing. I MDP is capable of reinstating old folders that you intentionally removed MDP but left on disk. I just did it and it 'found' 30 folders. After backing up I exited TB! and restarted up. I had duplicates of my 2 main account folder turn up. Never mind, thought I, I'll just zap 'em. And zap 'em I did. Only when I went to my original account folder and clicked on inbox the message count dropped to zero, same for sent mail and trash. A quick restore fixed everything though. Just as a point of interest, I get 1 lost folder found each time I do ctrl-shift-alt-L now but the folder never turns up. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... I've learned that you cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPzkLedttnLhkydF1EQLs5QCfXSOlqlTbfLSYkjKgHuvAJpmK+hUAn32V YPWvLn6EMHR4O9IJct0eOLWh =24Hn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: synching mail not in inbox w/ palm
Hi Monday, August 11, 2003, 9:42:27 PM, you wrote: W For TheBat users who synch with their palm pilot: how are W the emails handled? What is the filter strategy that works? I tried doing that for a while, but unfortunately the Palm Mail conduit only grabs stuff from the 'Inbox' folder. Which if you are like me it's empty most of the time as most of the stuff is filtered over to the folder tree. There's no way to make it sync with any other folder. Sending out e-mail is pretty decent since it just places e-mail in the Outbox and out it goes. For most minor, last minute or over the cup of coffee e-mails that's good enough. Loong time ago, I offered to make a conduit for TB!'s AddressBook and E-mail (into a folder aware app). But for that to be done efficiently I needed the native formats of the databases. Got no response from Ritlabs :( even after offering to do it for free. That's the only thing that I'm missing from the TB! otherwise it's perfect ;). Roberto P.S. The Bat! for Linux is still on my wish list. -- Roberto Machorro [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://machorro.net/roberto/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: diary
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 8:41:58 AM, Lex Thoonen wrote: LT I'm happy having switched from outlook to the bat, but now I need a LT good calendar/diary/agenda programme. Time Chaos - www.isbister.com - nothing else even nearly as good. If you absolutely *must* have free, then Redbox, but it's not a patch on Time Chaos. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing common folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, @12-Aug-2003, 10:46 -0400 (15:46 UK time) Dave Kennedy [DK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas: T Try the magic key combo: crtl-shift-alt-L. That's always the T first in such situations, but unfortunately, it's T undocumented. DK I've seen this recommended several times. What does it do behind DK the scenes? Recreate indexes? No. It scans the MAIL/Account folder (at the OS directory level) looking for sub-directories that are no longer in the TB folder tree and adding them back into the tree. DK Is is safe to use even if you're not having problems? Yes. DK Is it good to use occasionally? Not really - not unless you have folders that have gone missing. I is capable of reinstating old folders that you intentionally removed but left on disk. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzkIzTnkJKuSnc2gEQK2vACffjMLBkGWgzdhTmg3f45rr5rakGIAoNjI Xxr0Ggw/wn4rWYIm7gHPr7gQ =pO1a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using Imap with TB!
Hello tbudl, I am new to using IMAP but I cannot work out how to subscribe to the filtered mail that is stored in my mail servers root directory Sean -- Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. A peeping Tom is a guy who is too lazy to go to the beach. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Hi Stuart, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12 Aug 2003 11:07:31 (my local time 12:07:31), you typed: SH frankie_goes_to_holliwood LT ... what is it good for ... SH Absolutely nothing! SH /frankie_goes_to_holliwood Umm, now look, I don't want to sound peckish, (or how you say) but the correct tag should be: Edwin_Star /Edwin_Star (Or how that chap now spells his name), it was him who made the song war in the 1970-s. -- -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Re: BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: into somethingelse?
Hi Mark, on Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:05:22 -0700GMT (13.08.03, 19:05 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MW It might be nice to add to your canned response a note about how to MW get on TBOT, since it's not in the standard headers or footers. At MW least not for those of us in digest mode. All I really remember is MW that it's somewhere on yahoo. You can use Leif's link or, if you're uncomfortable with subscribing to Yahoo, you can just join the mailinglist by sending an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers Peter Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Winamp currently playing: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Glamour Mag Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter action: Mark unread?
I mark mailing list messages read when they arrive so as not to wake the Bat. Instead, I flag new messages, but then have to manually de-flag when reading. Bit of a pain. Any way to set up a filter that converts Flagged messages to Unread status? I could then manually activate this filter when reading lists, which would give me all the benefit of the Unread flag in this context without actually notifying me every time a new list message comes in. Thanks! -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing common folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DK Is it good to use occasionally? I've just done it and it claims to have found 30 lost folders! I didn't realize any were missing. I'm guessing that I have to logout and back in for the changes to appear. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... As I said before, I never repeat myself. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPzkBsNttnLhkydF1EQJB1ACgldQCUXc6w3Us9H4u8n3+16JjRuQAniBO dNRAtIrC3ly7ZvO9SIrgdReP =m5da -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 10:05:29 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK I had the same thing happen on my Win2K box at work. I ran it at DK home a few minutes ago on my WinXP box and it ran fine. Bug? It ran fine, first time, on both the computers here, both running Win2K :-/ -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing common folders
Hello Ian, On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:18:01 -0400 GMT (12/08/2003, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Ian Trider wrote: I am using The Bat! v1.61. A funny thing happened the other day; all of my common folders disappeared. The data is all still there, but the folders have completely disappeared within The Bat!. Try the magic key combo: crtl-shift-alt-L. That's always the first in such situations, but unfortunately, it's undocumented. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. -- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)
Hello Patricia, I didn't hear much on it until recently, how does one get it, http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=descriptionvirus_k=100547 IIRC the above link should be correct. I got it from TBOT mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is it another OE thing or something else? Again IIRC NO, I believe it randomly scans IPs for an open port 135. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Hello Deborah W, On or about Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 12:43:13GMT -0400 (which was 11:43 AM in the tropics where I live) Deborah W posted: DW On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 12:26:19 PM, Spike wrote: S I refuse to deal with fancified and bloated HTML mail, especially S with all the security risks they introduce. Half of my clients S were hit with BLASTER yesterday, and I am laughing hysterically at S all of them that I warned and tried to switch to TB! Those that S listened are humming along without a care :-) DW So if I'm running *only* TB, on Win2K, I don't need to worry about DW this Blaster thing, right? 'Cause I've been trying to update my DW virus definitions on AVG all morning not getting anywhere :-( The risk is MINIMAL as long as you have not altered the default settings in TB! This is under Options Preferences Warnings. As long as you don't EXECUTE any questionable attachment that comes through, you will probably be OK. If you are accessing any webmail accounts, be VERY VERY careful. Under any NT system, which is NT-4, WIN2K or XP, the worm shuts down critical system utilities (processes) which in turn causes your system to INVOLUNTARILY shut down repeatedly. There is one saving grace, as if you are NOT ONLINE, the system will remain stable, and only becomes unstable after an internet connection is established, at least that has been my experience, YMMV. I understand that this is an EXTREMELY widespread issue, so most of the AV sites worldwide are being slammed by the sudden traffic. My phone is ringing off the hook on this, which has never happened before. I suspect we will see a large increase in TB! users, at least in MY territory. :-) -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the moment: A cometary impact before breakfast may spoil the rest of your day! /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Limit?
Thanks all, for the help I've been getting by constant lurking. Is there a limit to the number of filters one can have on an account? Paco -- Using The Bat! 1.62q under Windows XP Home, version 2000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Hello Jernej Simoni, On or about Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 18:05:35GMT +0200 (which was 11:05 AM in the tropics where I live) Jernej Simoni posted: Apologies! This was supposed to go to TBOT. I changed the address. TB changed it back while I wasn't looking. Not folder templates, but v2 changed template handling... :-( JS Of course, blame the program! :) I think we ALL will have a steep learning curve once TB V2.0 releases. I know there'd better be a quick and efficient way to DISABLE all the HTML crappola before I start to use it! If not, I'll either stay with V1.xx or start to search and audition once again.. I refuse to deal with fancified and bloated HTML mail, especially with all the security risks they introduce. Half of my clients were hit with BLASTER yesterday, and I am laughing hysterically at all of them that I warned and tried to switch to TB! Those that listened are humming along without a care :-) This one's a real nasty one, especially in NT/WIN2K and XP. It repeatedly shuts down the system involuntarily until removed! Most were infected by employees accessing personal Hotmail in a browser. The update to the Norton AV files lagged the infection by about 9 hours, and unless you updated after 4PM-EST yesterday, you are still vulnerable! Not sure about other AV programs. I don't use any of them, but my client base is entirely NAV by corporate decree. http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.html -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the millenium: Vacuum: A large, empty space where the pope lives. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
