Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:10:08 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Superb. This is a company that has continually enhanced and upgraded a product to extreme levels without charging existing users a penny for five years! Although it maybe seem unfair for new users I totally agree with you. I use The Bat! since May '99 and for four years we got MAJOR enhancements for free. If some other company has produced the Bat, the very same program with the same feature set would be in version 4 or 5 and not 2.00.6. Believe me 1.60 was a major upgrade to 1.50 which was a major upgrade to 1.40 and so forth. RITLABS, kindly offered me a free upgrade to 2.00 but I didn't accept it because in my point of view it would be a cheat. I bought the ugrade of 22$ but I would have bought it even if I had to pay the full price. Just my 0.02 ยค -- /\/\ || George M. Menegakis - System Administrator || || Centre of Communications and Networking|| || Iraklion Campus - University Of Crete || || mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], icq: 4557532 || || phone: +30 81 393 306, fax:+30 81 39 3318 || \/\/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Roel, I've found a fairly easy way to do this: snipped That's basically the same I do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0: slower - and other issues
I just wanted to update this mail with 2.00.6: TB is much faster now (maybe as fast as 1.63). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hallo MAU, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 00:49:51 +0200GMT (8-9-03, 0:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: There are more I guess. My set of reply templates needs to be overhauled seriously. M Then that is enough for me to not upgrade. I don't care about IMAP, M PGP/MIME or HTML, why should I upgrade if I may have to overhaul (as M you say) my QTs and templates? Maybe because of the possibility to add headers or to manipulate existing headers with respectively the %AddHeader and the %SetHeader macros? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand all threads command?
On Monday, September 08, 2003, Robyn Winter wrote: I use a PC with an International keyboard and I used Expand Thread Ctrl+NumLock++ Contract Thread Ctrl+NumLock+- Expand ALL threads Ctrl+NumLock+* I don't know how to Contract ALL Threads though. Ctrl+Shift+NumLock+* -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.62r Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expand all threads command?
Hi Dave, Monday, September 8, 2003, 6:23:20 PM, you wrote: I don't know how to Contract ALL Threads though. DG Ctrl+Shift+NumLock+* You're a god! Many thanks! I have been manually closing each thread when I accidently use the expand all threads shortcut. -- Regards Robyn Winter This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre grabs full screen
Hi Thomas, On Mon, 08 Sep 2003, at 11:45:23 [GMT +0700] (which was 14:45 where I live) you wrote: If the middle button has to little squares in it, the window is maximised and you want to click on that button once to get the sizeable view and can proceed as described above. Thanks. All solved now. Using ADSL, and the screen disappeared too fast! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 What do you mean that 2 years have passed? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug in 2.00.x: Color Group no longer present when message moved to trash
Hi Stefan an List, when I delete a message, its color group is set to none. That way, I can't delete messages from trash based on color group anymore. Can anyone confirm? Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany The best way to realize the pleasure of being rich is to live in a smaller house than your means would entitle you to have. -- Edward Clarke Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The various arguments about why my colleague should not want to upgrade to v2 are moot; can anyone tell me how he gets a proper registration for v1? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... The darkest hour is just before dawn. So if you're going to steal your neighbour's milk, that's the time to do it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP1xIrtttnLhkydF1EQInygCfVi7GDAEZ/Ae5zgsGcScSYYowBicAoIdw LD9yenblVYup4sJ5XRs9RYm9 =qODD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug in 2.00.x: Color Group no longer present when message moved to trash
Hello all, Monday, September 8, 2003, Roman Katzer wrote: when I delete a message, its color group is set to none. not confirmed. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Reply template?
Hi Thomas, Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:38:11 AM, you wrote: Is there any way I can implement the select all (i.e. Ctrl+A) and copy (i.e. Ctrl+V) in the reply template? TF Have you tried %Clipboard=%Text for crtl-A? TF Still thinking about crtl-V... I'm sure you and Greg both know it should be Ctrl-C for COPY rather than Ctrl-V, which is the key combination for PASTE, not copy. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Californians are more interested in politics than the rest of us and enjoy elections and I trust that the movement to recall Gov. Davis' successor will begin as soon as he is sworn in. Eventually, Web technology will allow Californians to hold an instant referendum on all issues and you won't need a governor, just a state Web master. -- Garrison Keillor Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug in 2.00.x: Color Group no longer present when message moved to trash
Hello Roman, On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] when I delete a message, its color group is set to none. That way, I can't delete messages from trash based on color group anymore. Can anyone confirm? Still keep the colour group here. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ot - please help?
Hi all, I also use yahoo for email and download the mail via client software (TB!), recently I cannot access my mail via TB!, but I can access it via my browser. Is anyone else having this problem, and if so, how do I get around it? Btw, I've just tried oe and had the same problem, so I vguess TB! is not to blame... Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre grabs full screen
Hello John, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:04:45 +1000 GMT (08/09/2003, 16:04 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: Thanks. All solved now. Using ADSL, and the screen disappeared too fast! LOL! Options / Preferences / Display Connection Center / choose Always from the drop-down box. Then you can also resize it when TB is not downloading mail at the moment. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My mouse got into my computer and chewed up the internet. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please help?
Further info, Monday, September 8, 2003, 10:42:47 AM, you wrote: dcn Hi all, dcn I also use yahoo for email and download the mail via dcn client software (TB!), recently I cannot access my mail via TB!, dcn but I can access it via my browser. Is anyone else having this dcn problem, and if so, how do I get around it? Btw, I've just tried oe dcn and had the same problem, so I vguess TB! is not to blame... dcn Best regards, dcn Dave Wilson. dcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcn (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) this is the error as reported by oe; Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F -- Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply template?
Hello Perry, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:22:35 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 16:22 +0700 GMT), Perry Nelson wrote: TF Have you tried %Clipboard=%Text for crtl-A? TF Still thinking about crtl-V... I'm sure you and Greg both know it should be Ctrl-C for COPY rather than Ctrl-V, which is the key combination for PASTE, not copy. Before you can copy (crtl-C), you must select all (ctrl-A). So correctly said, what I think the above should do is ctrl-A followed by ctrl-C. Of course ctrl-V is paste. That's what I haven't figured out yet. How do you paste from the clipboard into the message by macro? Or do you just use %Clipboard (without parameter) and that will paste from, instead of copy to, the clipboard? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Floor moving. FAULT: You are being carried out. ACTION: Find out if you are being taken to another bar. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply template?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 TF Or do you just use %Clipboard (without parameter) and that will paste TF from, instead of copy to, the clipboard? Yes. I have expressions like %x=%clipboard in some of the macro's I have here. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP1xVyNttnLhkydF1EQJJfQCeOFb3uQXvOdnsI0r6+Q5qDwxrGIIAoIzc 14U76XeOrRVnHYUvHspAnFDu =L/1q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Pixie, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:13:26 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 17:13 +0700 GMT), Pixie wrote: However, I hate to say it, a couple of the problems I am having with 2.xx have not been isolated/fixed and I would be using 1.62r if I had a registration code for it. Are you saying you are experiencing bugs in v2 that weren't there in 1.62r? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, 'Thyroid problem?' Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection times out
Trying to pick up my wife's email, it always times out before I can delete the spam. I've looked for a setting (v 1.62) and can't find one, am I missing something? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Roelof, Maybe because of the possibility to add headers or to manipulate existing headers with respectively the %AddHeader and the %SetHeader macros? I haven't felt the need to use any of these header macros so far. I am personally not concerned about the cost of the upgrade, it is that my policy is pretty much If it ain't broke, don't fix it!. That is probably why I am still on 1.62i, I found no need to even upgrade to 1.62r. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Start up: The Bat balks
Greetings, Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook (Outlook is not used for my email.) And nearly every time I start The Bat, I see this message: A call to an OS function failed. I then hit Enter and The Bat runs normally. There was a recent message from another user similar to mine, but she quit The Bat, I believe. Have any of you found a (much!) better work-around or a *real* solution? Please don't ask me to upgrade my Bat version if that means I'll run into other dramas. I'll have a very busy week. :-) Best regards, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving filters between accounts
Hello Batmans! I've encountered with problem. I have MULTIPLIES filter on one account and i'd like to move corresponding Folder and its filters to another account. I have no any problems with Folders, but Filters. Any suggestions would be appreciable! Your sincerely registered, Sasha. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! 2 - Message as Attachments
Hi list, Has anyone had any reports from OE users that their message bodies are appearing as attachments? I've run a few tests using Outlook and my message look fine, but I've had several OE 6.x users report this problem with my mails. Obviously I'd just love to blame OE but I can't rule out a bug in TB! 2.0, especially as this appears to have started some time after I installed v2. Any thoughts, anyone? Graeme. -- Graeme J Hosking [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hosking-online.com/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving filters between accounts
Hello Alexander, I have no any problems with Folders, but Filters. Any suggestions would be appreciable! It is no problem either. When you move a folder, let's say folder A, the filters that move messages to folder Possible_path/A are automatically changed to move messages to New_Account/Possible_path/A. Then, if in old account Sorting Office you copy or cut a filter and Paste in in New Account, the filter will automatically modified to move messages to Possible_path/A. I know because I have done this just this morning with about10 filters. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to send email to one particular address
want to send email to one particular address..want bat to open with the compose window every time with this email id in TO field thanks pradeep Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello David, Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:44:16 PM, you wrote: DRA Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to DRA reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook DRA (Outlook is not used for my email.) DRA And nearly every time I start The Bat, I see this message: A call to DRA an OS function failed. I then hit Enter and The Bat runs normally. DRA There was a recent message from another user similar to mine, but she DRA quit The Bat, I believe. Have any of you found a (much!) better DRA work-around or a *real* solution? DRA Please don't ask me to upgrade my Bat version if that means I'll run DRA into other dramas. I'll have a very busy week. :-) Could supply more information please. Windows version and patches installed Running software etc. Office Version installed Any logs created by windows. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adding attachments list on msg send
Is there a way to add a quick template to a message at the time it is sent to the outbox (ie after the message has been finished)? I want to use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list attached files automatically, but I don't attach files until I'm just about to send them. Outgoing mail filters don't seem to provide that functionality. -- thanks in advance, David Boggon Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello David, Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook (Outlook is not used for my email.) When you say Outlook you mean Outlook and not Outlook Express, right? If so, I can't help. As you can see I still use 1.62i and have no problem with it, but I don't use Outlook. Sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2 - Message as Attachments
Hello Graeme J Hosking, On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 14:43 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: GJH Has anyone had any reports from OE users that their message bodies are GJH appearing as attachments? I've run a few tests using Outlook and my GJH message look fine, but I've had several OE 6.x users report this GJH problem with my mails. You're using PGM/MIME. Outlook Express can't handle it. -- Edvis Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to send email to one particular address
Hello pkroy, want to send email to one particular address..want bat to open with the compose window every time with this email id in TO field Modify the New Message template (Account/Properties/Templates/New message) to include the %TO macro in it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 07:44:16 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 18:44 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: There was a recent message from another user similar to mine, but she quit The Bat, I believe. Have any of you found a (much!) better work-around or a *real* solution? Try this: Close Outlook and The Bat. Open Internet Explorer. Go to Tools / Internet Options / Programs. Choose Outlook for Email. Click OK. Close IE. Re-open IE. Go to Tools / Internet Options / Progams. Choose The Bat! for Email. click OK. Close IE. Open The Bat and see whether your problem persists. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. BALDERDASH: Rapidly receding hairline Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to send email to one particular address
Hallo pkroy, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:22:20 +0530GMT (8-9-03, 13:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: p want to send email to one particular address..want bat to open p with the compose window every time with this email id in TO field Create a mailto URL on your desktop, that directs a message to that address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:44:16 PM, David R. Austen wrote: Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook (Outlook is not used for my email.) And nearly every time I start The Bat, I see this message: A call to an OS function failed. I then hit Enter and The Bat runs normally. I run Outlook and TB (I also use Time and Chaos for work task scheduling, but have not found it to be an adequate replacement for my contacts and diary). I do not have any problems, but this message does ring a bell - it sounds a bit like Outlook and TB fighting it out over default settings, as Outlook fights a rearguard action if it is not the default client. Have a look at the Programs settings in IE (Tools|Internet Options|Programs) and then the individual defaults for Outlook and TB and see if you can find any conflicts. I always had problems with TB being the default handler for .VCF, so I leave this and MSG unticked in TB! Everything works fine without. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello, Pixie: P On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 07:44:16 -0400 GMT, David R. I expect that P Austen I expe P wrote: DRA There was a recent message from another user similar to mine, but she DRA quit The Bat, I believe. Have any of you found a (much!) better DRA work-around or a *real* solution? P Have you considered ditching outlook? (snip) I expect that ditching Outlook may be on the cards one day. Are you suggesting that there is some kind of problem that my be caused by Outlook? Starting and quitting Outlook seems to help me start The Bat, but there is not a simple and exclusive cause and effect relationship. But . . . thank you for the tip on Time and Chaos. David P While this may not be an easy option for you, like The Bat! there are P some really great programs out there that can take the place of P outlook. I'm presently evaluating Time Chaos, one of the few so far P I've found that can sync Pocket PC Palm -- which was one of the MS P strangleholds that I'd rather be rid of. -- Best regards, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
M I just wonder why hasn't the author or co-authors announced MyGate on M this list. It is a really useful piece of software. I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even collect a newsgroup list. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 8:28:04 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: JBL I run Outlook and TB (I also use Time and Chaos for work task JBL scheduling, but have not found it to be an adequate replacement for JBL my contacts and diary). Really? What do you find that Outlook does with your contacts diary that TC won't? -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello, Thomas: First, a big thank you. We are getting closer to success. You wrote: TF Try this: Close Outlook and The Bat. Open Internet Explorer. Go to TF Tools / Internet Options / Programs. Choose Outlook for Email. TF Click OK. Close IE. Re-open IE. Go to Tools / Internet Options / TF Progams. Choose The Bat! for Email. click OK. Close IE. Open The TF Bat and see whether your problem persists. Done. Now, Outlook seems to be finally irrelevant to the operation of The Bat. Curiously, I still see A call to an OS function failed when I run The Bat NOLOGO. This startup, and the normal (with logo) startup both require an ENTER after I double-click on the icon. I guess I should be happy now. Pigs want wings, too. Best regards, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Clive, M I just wonder why hasn't the author or co-authors announced MyGate on M this list. It is a really useful piece of software. CT I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any CT tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even CT collect a newsgroup list. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/all%20the%20glass.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Allen, On 08-09-2003 15:27, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . A . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. What is your problem? I installed and ran mine in less then 5 mins! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Clive, I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even collect a newsgroup list. The program is almost as simple as the mechanism of a spoon, have you read HELP? Be a bit more specific, defaults for what? What do you do to collect the newsgroups list? What happens then? Any error message of any kind? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 2:03:05 PM, Deborah W wrote: Really? What do you find that Outlook does with your contacts diary that TC won't? The main issues are Palm synchronisation, the big issue finding something that supports Date Book Categories on the Palm, as used by DateBk5. I have tried a few programs to find something that will work, but not, as yet, succeeded. I liked Lotus Organiser, but it did not support Categories, a problem with many PIMs. I am hoping that Chapura (of Pocket Mirror fame) will write a conduit for some alternative PIMs, as they understand categories. I don't use TC as my diary because I like to keep my appointments and calendar separate from my todo list, which the TC Palm sync will not do. I was not very impressed with the address book! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Peter, PF Allen, PF On 08-09-2003 15:27, you [A] wrote in PF mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . A . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. PF What is your problem? I installed and ran mine in less then 5 mins! My problem was . . . I was getting some sort of error message from the gate, but didn't realize it [it didn't bring focus to itself] so TB just hung. I don't recall the error message, but it must have been a net fluke, because after acknowledging the error and trying again to check my mail, it was working flawlessly. All is well. Thanks. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/haiku/gentle%20silhouette.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Start up: The Bat balks
It seems that Julian Beach (Lists) said ... J not support Categories, a problem with many PIMs. I am hoping that J Chapura (of Pocket Mirror fame) will write a conduit for some J alternative PIMs, as they understand categories. I think you may have a long wait. Whenever I've talked to them, the response has been Outlook is what we know and we're sticking with it. There's always hope, though! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/8/2003 at 9:53 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. -- Stephen Wright. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:32:46 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 20:32 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: Done. Now, Outlook seems to be finally irrelevant to the operation of The Bat. It actually is aa known bug in IE, but try talking to the developers of that product... Curiously, I still see A call to an OS function failed when I run The Bat NOLOGO. This startup, and the normal (with logo) startup both require an ENTER after I double-click on the icon. I guess I should be happy now. Pigs want wings, too. Nonono, TB should work fine. Someone else reported a problem with NOLOGO before (within this month, I think) and solved it. Check the archives with keyword nologo. What is your OS? I think the other user had XP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Sunday, September 7, 2003, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: You don't have to want TB v2.x now, but if you think you will after October 2003, then it is still worth paying the $17.50 now. Paying now for a might in two months doesn't make sense to me. Putting those money away, following the discussions, and making the decision on upgrading in the end of October does. -- Urban Ancient Egypt was inhabited by mummies and they all wrote in hydraulics. They lived in the Sarah Dessert and travelled by Camelot. The climate of the Sarah is such that the inhabitants have to live elsewhere. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to send email to one particular address
Hello pkroy, Monday, September 8, 2003, 1:52:20 PM, you wrote: p want to send email to one particular address..want bat to open p with the compose window every time with this email id in TO field Use the following command line parameters: /mailuser=account;to=destination;edit More parameters exist; check the online help and search for 'Command line parameter' I tested this by creating a shortcut on my desktop, right-click, properties, and pasting in the parameters in target field (outside the double quotes ()). Frank -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply template?
Hello Perry, I'm sure you and Greg both know it should be Ctrl-C for COPY rather than Ctrl-V, which is the key combination for PASTE, not copy. Yes my mistake. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:58:21 AM, you wrote: TF I also haven't read this. Or I must be getting old - let me find my TF Gingko Biloba. Hm. Can you point me to a mid saying that anybody got TF a free key because he registered within two months from the release of TF v2? Again please refer to a threat I have created called Amnesty. There is a user there who states this clearly. - -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1yUEXrWNKgp50M4EQIIyACg1njxiBpIPr7pbcy7dmCUs/neXC0An3Xy 9Gf6Fj8ekzjGOR3UgJDx9iHC =4xif -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Amnesty ...there is none!
Hello Danger, Friday, September 5, 2003, 3:30:28 PM, you wrote: D Hello Christopher, D Friday, September 5, 2003, 2:51:12 PM, you wrote: CB Hi Julien, dh I have not found posted the Amnesty policy for newly registered 1.x dh uses to obtain a new key for Ver. 2.x CB At any rate, they seem amenable to the free upgrade. I was told to CB include my v1.x order number when requesting the free upgrade. D I sent an e-mail to that address lets see what happens! As of now I have still not received any e-mail back from that address. -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding attachments list on msg send
On Monday, September 08, 2003, David Boggon wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DB I want to use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list attached files DB automatically, but I don't attach files until I'm just about to DB send them. David, Perhaps (hopefully) someone will improve on this response, but, unless there is a way to do exactly what you--and I and no doubt others--are looking for, the next best thing I've found is to create a short QT that can be typed in the message at the end, before sending. (If you send attachments nearly always, you could even put the QT in your templates and just press ctrl+spacebar before you send it to the outbox.) The QT I use, invoked by the easily remembered att, is: %IF:%ATTACHMENTS!=none:Attached file(s): %ATTACHMENTS. -- JN Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi MAU, Monday, September 8, 2003, 2:34:59 PM, you wrote: M The program is almost as simple as the mechanism of a spoon, have you M read HELP? Yes. M Be a bit more specific, defaults for what? What do you do to M collect the newsgroups list? What happens then? Any error message M of any kind? OK. It's now working. I'd changed the local port to 1100 in TB and MyGate but MyGate seems to want port 110 only. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, M Well, just yesterday I discovered MyGate. A protocol gateway specially M developed for The Bat! (that's what the author claims) that seems to M work quite well and is much simpler to set up and use than my solution M with MailTraq, specially if you only use one news server. For more info: M http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ I've specified for it to only download x-number of messages on subscription. Upon my first download, it downloaded only that number. Perfect. But the next time I checked my mail/the newsgroup, it wants to download -all- of the messages in all of the groups, not just the x-number. am I doing something wrong in my setup, or . . . what? Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/EFFECT.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Clive, OK. It's now working. Great! :) but MyGate seems to want port 110 only. That's the default when you create a gate, but it will accept anything. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quote-skipping
Can TB be configured to, when viewing a message, automatically skip over the quoted text to the new text? I haven't found a toggle for this, yet, though it seems like something that would be within TB's scope . . . Thanks Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/HAIKU4LIFE.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Allen, But the next time I checked my mail/the newsgroup, it wants to download -all- of the messages in all of the groups, not just the x-number. am I doing something wrong in my setup, or . . . what? It should download x-number max for each subscribed newsgroup, this has worked fine for me every time I tried. How do you know it is trying to download -all-? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding attachments list on msg send
Hi Joseph, Thanks for your reply. on 8/9/03 you wrote: JN the next best thing I've found is to create a short QT JN that can be typed in the message at the end, before sending. Yes of course. I had not thought of adding the text to the macro, though. JN %IF:%ATTACHMENTS!=none:Attached file(s): %ATTACHMENTS. There is a much longer QT on the FAQ page: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#attachments+listing which purports to do the same thing. I don't really understand regex and so I can't decipher the difference. JN unless there is a way to do exactly what you--and I and no doubt others--are JN looking for ... I guess, theoretically at least, one could set up an outgoing mail filter that intercepted the message and created a new one adding the ATTACHMENTS macro onto the original mail. Do the outgoing mail filters ~catch~ mail before they are sent? Has anyone ever tried this? -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tyranny cuts off the singer's hand But the voice from the bottom of the well Returns to the secret springs of the earth - Pablo Neruda Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Trying to figure out why I would want to even consider using something other than Xnews -- kind of grows on people like TB! does. -- Pixie Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quote-skipping
Hello Allen, Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:02:57 AM, you wrote: A Can TB be configured to, when viewing a message, automatically skip A over the quoted text to the new text? I haven't found a toggle for A this, yet, though it seems like something that would be within TB's A scope Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea for a new option :-))) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: i don't know you (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:32:46 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 20:32 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: Sorry for posting a PM on the list. I replied to your PM, but I have been asked by your bot to confirm my address. I'm not doing that. You want to review your policy for two reasons: 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed your address to the sender. And if you're in business, you'll never get new customers... and even new friends will be difficult to get. I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop communicating. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wenn morgens frueh der Wecker rasselt, ist der schoenste Tag vermasselt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, M Hello Allen, But the next time I checked my mail/the newsgroup, it wants to download -all- of the messages in all of the groups, not just the x-number. am I doing something wrong in my setup, or . . . what? M It should download x-number max for each subscribed newsgroup, this has M worked fine for me every time I tried. How do you know it is trying to M download -all-? Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about 2500 messages per group. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/Insomniacs%20Bend.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Monday, September 8, 2003, 6:13:26 AM, Pixie wrote: P To a large extent the internet and the instant gratification P it brings especially with software is tiresome at times. I P used to never know doodle about alpha/beta stages and having P the freshest version just wasn't a consideration unless P problems came up. I never used to keep this current (disregard P my OS :-) on so many applications when it required long P distance BBS calls at the all too slow baud rates of the day. Many years ago, about 1985, I was an active Compu$erve user. I was using one of the first Macintoshes and used a really cool comm program called Red Ryder. It was very slick with great macros, xmodem, etc. I used Red Ryder to access Compu$erve and after a while it slowly dawned on me that the main reason I was using Compu$erve was to download new versions of RR. Eventually, I cancelled that service. Even way back then, I was fascinated with the ability of the world-wide communication that enabled. I was so proud of that 1200 baud modem when I got it! :) -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding attachments list on msg send
Hallo David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:13:37 +0100GMT (8-9-03, 17:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DB ... I guess, theoretically at least, one could set up an outgoing mail DB filter that intercepted the message and created a new one adding the DB ATTACHMENTS macro onto the original mail. No, you can't. The outgoing filters are triggered after the message is sent. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Pixie, On 08-09-2003 17:17, you [P] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: P Trying to figure out why I would want to even consider using something P other than Xnews -- kind of grows on people like TB! does. I come from Xnews. I would like to have all the same place. I prefer the spell check, QT, macros, etc in TB. Also I only need to set up a bunch of stuff one. Binaries are not good with MyGate (AFAIK) and some filtering may be easier with XNews. My conclusion: I will use MyGate for text groups until Ritlabs makes a good (also binaries) newsreader for TB. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: setting FOLDER to addresses
Hello Sean, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 2:37:59 PM, you wrote: Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? grin I really like that! It sums up very nicely exactly why top posting is so irritating. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi MAU, Monday, September 8, 2003, 3:59:22 PM, you wrote: M That's the default when you create a gate, but it will accept M anything Not here it won't Miguel! But, as I say, it's working fine now. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Allen, Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about 2500 messages per group. Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v2.0 and S/MIME Signatures with Multiple Addresses?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I now have 5 main POP accounts set up under The Bat! v2.00.6, but I have nearly 30 other aliases I'm using for different purposes. I've created folders, filters, and quite templates, and the system is working quite well for me. I'm wondering something, though. I am a Thawte notary, and I can generate S/MIME certificates which can contain multiple e-mail addresses. It would greatly simplify my setup to have only 5 S/MIME signatures instead of about 35! Does The Bat v2.0 work OK with S/MIME signatures containing multiple addresses? Thanks. - -- Scott A. Blystone Rochester, New York PGP keys may be verified at ldap://keyserver.pgp.com. Running The Bat! v2.00.6 under Windows XP Pro SR-1. We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve telling them to sit down and shut up. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1ykKBocl9U52HjOEQKBLACfbZcxKFNeWYVDE6WuqM4sh2BUIy4AoL66 amTh85zGNn4SGVEDED7Eaxeb =zbYk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 06:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't you read that people on this very list are getting free updates since they registered two months from the release of v2? Where is that written down? Nowhere? Aha... I also haven't read this. Or I must be getting old - let me find my Gingko Biloba. Hm. Can you point me to a mid saying that anybody got a free key because he registered within two months from the release of v2? I read it in various mails, I didn't dig very, I remembered only the Amnesty thread where Christopher Brown mentions it: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: quote-skipping
Stefan, ST Hello Allen, ST Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:02:57 AM, you wrote: A Can TB be configured to, when viewing a message, automatically skip A over the quoted text to the new text? I haven't found a toggle for A this, yet, though it seems like something that would be within TB's A scope ST Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea for a new option :-))) Then I'll have to look forward to it :-) Thanks, Stefan Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/harvest/008.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, M Hello Allen, Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about 2500 messages per group. M Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened. Nothing to apologize for, unless it was you who told it to download all that excess. I think it did that on account of my own stupidity, though -- I'd not edit the account options to leave mail on the server. I've now done that, and tested it on a few other groups and all is working correctly. This is quite a nice usenet solution. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/recent%20sketches/hallo%20you.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 09:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Superb. This is a company that has continually enhanced and upgraded a product to extreme levels without charging existing users a penny for five years! Although it maybe seem unfair for new users I totally agree with you. Can you for just a *moment* think of how you would feel if you registered TB 1.x about 2.01 months ago (like danger h), please? Can you answer me, then, if it maybe seems unfair, or if you feel ripped off? Come n... If a company forgets that updates to their products are actually worth money and then suddenly charge each and every user the same... ungh, how many times did I repeat this, enough... I use The Bat! since May '99 and for four years we got MAJOR enhancements for free. If some other company has produced the Bat, the very same program with the same feature set would be in version 4 or 5 and not 2.00.6. Believe me 1.60 was a major upgrade to 1.50 which was a major upgrade to 1.40 and so forth. If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend reading it. -- Groucho Marx Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Over-ride BCC from template
Hello Coyle306, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 5:48:02 AM, you wrote: C You have to delete the bcc field immediately before hitting send. C It's annoying. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Coyle306. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection times out
08-Sep-2003 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to pick up my wife's email, it always times out before I can delete the spam. I've looked for a setting (v 1.62) and can't find one, am I missing something? Can you specify how you delete spam, are you opening the mail dispatcher to sort out the spam manually on the server, or are you using a local spam-catching proxy that times out? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Unexplainable events occur constantly. One man will see spirits. Another will hear voices. A third will wake up and find himself running in the Preakness. -- Woody Allen Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 11:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A And seriously... displays with less than 60 columns? How oldskool-ish. A :) There _are_ those who have bad vision yet still feel compelled to use their eyes... Sure, if you look hard enough you can find an exception to about anything you want... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Compassion is the most effective use of power. -- Patrick Douglas Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My new 20 lines filter
Hello Paul, Friday, September 5, 2003, 4:04:39 PM, you wrote: PR An alternative might be to send them to a junk folder instead, Ouch. Now we're junk :-( grin -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My new 20 lines filter
Hello Urban, Friday, September 5, 2003, 6:15:56 PM, you wrote: U IMHO, that is a wee bit ill-mannered of the moderators. There U should be no reason for us lowly mortals having to even consider U this risk, instead they should send 2 separate messages (and most U often they do). moderators whispering whisper, whisper, ok, so Marck, whisper, grab his legs, whisper, Allie, take both trouts, whisper, whisper, I'll lure him Urban around the corner, whisper, giggle, giggle, snort, whisper, we'll get 'em good! moderators walk away smirking -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Allen, I've now done that, and tested it on a few other groups and all is working correctly :-)) This is quite a nice usenet solution. It is certainly for me. As a matter of fact, I have already un-installed MailTraq4Free that I have been using for about a year and a half. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
Hello Pixie Thank you for your email dated Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:57:42 PM, in which you wrote: P I'm presently evaluating Time Chaos, They've also got some great offers at the moment: https://www.chaossoftware.com/secure/purchase.asp -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:50:12 PM, Alexander wrote: If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? Cost, I should imagine. TB is not a high cost product, and the costs of providing an upgrade procedure based on this, which would probably require considerable manual checking, would probably wipe out the profit. As I noted before, although the current upgrade policy may not be fair to recent purchasers, it does have the benefit of being cheap to operate, and therefore helps to keep the costs of the product down. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 18:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cost, I should imagine. TB is not a high cost product, and the costs of providing an upgrade procedure based on this, which would probably require considerable manual checking There's something like a database, I assume. I have no knowledge about it but I guess I can write the MS Access queries to filter that information out within 30 minutes... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Pixie, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:42:08 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Pixie wrote: DK Many years ago, about 1985, I was an active Compu$erve user. [...] DK I was so proud of that 1200 baud modem when I got it! :) I have a few of those still. My word, I think the going rate on a couple of the USR modems I have was around US$600+ at the time. That may have even been after the SysOp discount. This is getting OT, but I started off with a 360 baud acoustic coupler! I don't know the cost, it was in research at the time, so it was provided. The later modems where such an innovative invention. ;-) @Dave: Yes I was on Cserve too. I even wrote to them saying that I would market them in Thailand, but they politely declined, saying that they were focussed on Europe and the US. Well. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Woran erkennen Sie, das Sie als Bedienung nichts taugen? Sie halten Caipirinha fur einen fleischfressenden Fisch. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:47:07 +0200 GMT (08/09/2003, 22:47 +0700 GMT), Alexander wrote: Can you point me to a mid saying that anybody got a free key because he registered within two months from the release of v2? I read it in various mails, I didn't dig very, I remembered only the Amnesty thread where Christopher Brown mentions it: OK, you got me. Even though that was not an official announcement... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. WE LEARN that the Acme ultrasonic dog whistle warns purchasers: This product will be ineffective if your dog is deaf. Well, well, well. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Old-timey communications
Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:42:08 AM, Pixie wrote: P On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:24:01 -0400 GMT, Dave Kennedy wrote: P Grin! I was fascinated with the telecommunications facet of P computers from the instant I was exposed to it. I think the P first modem I used was home-made. :-) Home-made! Very cool! My first dial-up access was over a 110 baud coupler-style modem attached to a teletype (it even had paper tape!) to an HP-2000 across town. I was in high school and was a technical assistant in a group that had the teletype. After doing my real work, I could program in BASIC as much as I wanted. I used to rig the computer room's door lock (it was actually just a closet) and climb over the main school gate to sneak in after school hours. I finally got busted by the janitor. You should have seen the quandary the principle was in deciding what punishment to dole out to me! An AP student breaking into school after hours to learn more about computers! P I have a few of those still. My word, I think the going rate P on a couple of the USR modems I have was around US$600+ at the P time. That may have even been after the SysOp discount. Very fun times. Crosstalk, etc.! My neighbor across the street ran a BBS and had at least one T into his house to support all his phone lines. I used to dog-sit for him and all those blinking lights and silver USR modems were way cool. This was circa 1982-1984 or so. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:50:12 PM, Alexander wrote: If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? Cost, I should imagine. TB is not a high cost product, and the costs of providing an upgrade procedure based on this, which would probably require considerable manual checking, would probably wipe out the profit. As I noted before, although the current upgrade policy may not be fair to recent purchasers, it does have the benefit of being cheap to operate, and therefore helps to keep the costs of the product down. I have solved all these issues. I now use foxmail. it does not do quite as much in some areas but more in areas that I need and want. Besides most my email is done from linux and since the bat is not on linux I have found other solutions. Problem solved. I have to admit I am an actual paying user of the bat and at one time it was far ahead of the competition. Now it still has a few features that by and large are nice but not of use toe the everyday user. The only area it may still have an edge is in security but still at best it is only as secure as my linux solution and still cant do multiple accounts and many other features I have in every other email client I use. Thanks for the excellent email client for it's time. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ NOD32 1.502 (20030905) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 17:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grin! I was fascinated with the telecommunications facet of computers from the instant I was exposed to it. I think the first modem I used was home-made. :-) What I find fascinating until this very day is the fact that the data one wishes to transfer always exceeds the bandwidth to an amount were transfers are boring and slow. Imagine you'd mentioned to someone stuck in the middle of 1985 that you can download with mbit-Speed today, but have your transfers still running overnight because it takes so long. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hi Alexander, I use The Bat! since May '99 and for four years we got MAJOR enhancements for free. If some other company has produced the Bat, the very same program with the same feature set would be in version 4 or 5 and not 2.00.6. Believe me 1.60 was a major upgrade to 1.50 which was a major upgrade to 1.40 and so forth. A If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, A would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high A update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee A and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? The rationale here I think is that it is a smaller jump from 1.6 to 2.0, and therefor you shouldn't pay as much? But this thinking is the reason that Microsoft NEVER releases any updates, short of bug fixes. Anything new is squirreled away for a couple of years, until a new version comes out. The point is that what you suggest would encourage that. Why bother releasing new features as minor updates if you people are going to then complain that 2.0 is not much different than 1.6? You are just going to shoot yourself in the pocketbook. Better to keep 1.0 out forever, release bug fixes as .01 and .02 revisions, and keep all the new features for 2.0. Then you can charge everyone 75% of the full price for the upgrade...insert MS business plan here. I believe it is Microsoft's way of doing business that sucks. Ritlabs, while not exactly scoring a 10, is doing what they can to make some money, which is difficult. I do agree that the 2-month cutoff is a bad idea. -- Caio, Christopher Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Brook, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:25:33 -0700 GMT (08/09/2003, 23:25 +0700 GMT), Brook Humphrey wrote: The only area it may still have an edge is in security but still at best it is only as secure as my linux solution and still cant do multiple accounts and many other features I have in every other email client I use. It does 13 accounts for me at the moment. And what other features in every other email client you use are you missing? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't kill flies, but I like to mess with their minds. I hold them above globes. They freak out and yell, Whooa, I'm way too high. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Bonjour Deborah, Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:48:13 AM, j'ai pu lire: DW It's my understanding that it isn't a policy, but rather that inaccurate DW information was posted on the German website during that period of time, DW saying that those who registered TB v1. would get v2 free, that DW Ritlabs are therefore honouring that. Others, who were never promised a DW free update, are getting the 50% discount, which *is* the policy. Well, I was told my Stefan himself that the upgrade would be free in May 2003 after having asked him by email. In spite of the 2 mails I sent to RITlabs, I still have not received any new reg key nor any answer. So, I'm back under 1.6x, before the trial expires. Hope they will honor *that* promise. btw: Stefan, if you read this email... -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 s/n 96299A48 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Old-timey communications
Hello Dave, Monday, September 8, 2003, 10:25:38 AM, you wrote: DK Very fun times. Crosstalk, etc.! My neighbor across the street ran DK a BBS and had at least one T into his house to support all his DK phone lines. I used to dog-sit for him and all those blinking DK lights and silver USR modems were way cool. This was circa DK 1982-1984 or so. While I enjoy the reminiscing, and plan to join in on TBOT, it has gotten OT for TBUDL. Cy'all there. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Dave. This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) You can subscribe to TBOT by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: i don't know you (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello, Thomas: Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:17:21 AM, you wrote: TF Sorry for posting a PM on the list. I replied to your PM, but I have TF been asked by your bot to confirm my address. I regret the inconvenience. Please send me your message with the advice. It will go through now. Yes, the bot asks for a reason. Even your familiar name would suffice, Thomas, telling me who is at the door, so to speak. Please don't be offended. But I guess this is a good illustration of what somebody promised yesterday. To explain, I forgot to create a permission for you when I first wrote to you OL. (The CM bot normally automatically creates a permanent permission when I send a message to somebody new. SMTP problems at my new ISP have stopped that -- for now. (Of course that does not help with those senders who are totally new to me.) I have now created a permission for you manually, Thomas. TF I'm not doing that. You TF want to review your policy for two reasons: TF 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by TF your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. TF 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF your address to the sender. Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? TF And if you're in business, you'll never get new customers... (pause) TF and even new friends will be difficult to get. Now, Thomas, that's below the belt! :-0 I'm rather good looking, and anyway, mother said to be very careful about getting new friends on the Internet. But I think this list should be a safe place. :-) So everybody, come over for lunch at my place today. I'm afraid some dear, old friends will dump me now, per your suggestion. :-) TF I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop TFcommunicating. Seriously, you are kind to take this time to explain this, and alert me to new issues. This spam-killing is a work in progress. Cheers, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Brook, Monday, September 8, 2003, 5:25:33 PM, you wrote: BH now use foxmail. it does not do quite as much in some areas BH but more in areas that I need and want Apart from being able to wrap lines properly and remove sigs. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only area it may still have an edge is in security but still at best it is only as secure as my linux solution and still cant do multiple accounts and many other features I have in every other email client I use. ...like breaking Threads when you reply? Now *that* hurts. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Welcome thy neighbor to thy fallout shelter. He'll come in handy if you run out of food. -- Dean McLaughlin Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: i don't know you (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hello David, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:50:13 -0400 GMT (08/09/2003, 23:50 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: I regret the inconvenience. Please send me your message with the advice. It will go through now. I have moved it back to the Outbox. You should receive it soon. Yes, the bot asks for a reason. Even your familiar name would suffice, Thomas, telling me who is at the door, so to speak. Please don't be offended. But I guess this is a good illustration of what somebody promised yesterday. I don't understand the last sentence. To explain, I forgot to create a permission for you when I first wrote to you OL. Bingo! As I kept explaining to my people, apologies are one thing, not creating a situation needing one, is what we aim for! TF 1.) You sent me a message to which I replied. I am offended by TF your bot's interference to my attempt at helping you. TF 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF your address to the sender. Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? It's usually the unsubscribe address. The point is, I don't see the reason for your policy. TF and even new friends will be difficult to get. Now, Thomas, that's below the belt! :-0 I'm rather good looking, Send me a picture! :-) and anyway, mother said to be very careful about getting new friends on the Internet. Your mother is a wise lady. But I think this list should be a safe place. :-) So everybody, come over for lunch at my place today. I'm afraid lunch time is over for me, so is dinner. Next time, then. Will your mother be cooking? :-) TF I am kind enough to mention this to you, others will just stop TFcommunicating. Seriously, you are kind to take this time to explain this, and alert me to new issues. This spam-killing is a work in progress. I doubt you are killing spam this way. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a deadline was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: i don't know you (was: Start up: The Bat balks)
Hi David, on Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:50:13 -0400GMT (08.09.03, 18:50 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ... TF 2.) If you are trying to cut down spam, you will just have confirmed TF your address to the sender. DRA Good point. On very, very rare occasions, a spammer actually asks me DRA for permission! Thomas, aren't there other ways in which spammers can DRA extrapolate, and determine that an address is likely valid? Never as easy as by getting a reply. ... DRA This spam-killing is a work in progress. It is indeed! And it will be, as the spammers are progressing too... ;-) -- Cheers Peter _ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~ The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with. Marty Feldman pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
08-Sep-2003 18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only area it may still have an edge is in security but still at best it is only as secure as my linux solution and still cant do multiple accounts and many other features I have in every other email client I use. ...like breaking Threads when you reply? Now *that* hurts. :) yup here's another one for you .Thats about the only thing I miss it does not do threading properly. But then i dont use this very often mostly I use kmail which is superior to the abt in almost every way now. Just in case you want to know I did ask for A linux verion of the bat many times. Since they dont want to comply thats fine I went some palce else at least I'm not having allth arguments you guys are now weather or not to pay for 2.0 which I find to be extreemly funny. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Broken threads and general threading question
Hello TBUDL, I notice that many of the threads in this group end up broken. This seems especially obvious when The Bat! is threading based upon reference (Alt-1). I would have thought that since the bulk of us are using The Bat!, we would be able to maintain a consistent thread. Are the treads being broken by other email clients? As I look through the threads, it seems that many of the broken threads are created by a users of The Bat!. What is causing the broken threads? Which method do you find to provide the best, most consistent threading of message - by reference or by subject? Just curious, Jeff -- Jeffrey A. Shumway Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 on three IMAP and two POP accounts Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System for archiving
So my question is with these duplicates. The method I described I was saying it could work effectively if TB was convinced to kill the Unread messages. If it kills Read messages, then I will be left with two batches of the same Unread messages. If it does cut out the extraneous chaff, and delete not just *comparable* but *identical* messages, then it will leave a complete archive. (Unless I'm mistaken.) How does Kill Dupes work? Am I right in what I said? Can it be convinced to do this? One day here to experiment if there's some ideas. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
It seems that Brook Humphrey said ... B Just in case you want to know I did ask for A linux verion of the B bat many times. Since they dont want to comply thats fine I went some B palce else at least I'm not having allth arguments you guys are now B weather or not to pay for 2.0 which I find to be extreemly funny. I often wonder why, when people stop using a particular program, they hang around with support groups for the programs they don't use. I guess they have a lot of spare time on their hands. I don't much care what anyone else uses; you've picked the program you feel works best for you. Fine. I've picked the one that I feels works best for me. You're right. I'm right. Easy as that. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/8/2003 at 1:38 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: When the rich make war it's the poor that die. - Jean-Paul Sartre. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My new 20 lines filter
Hi Leif, on Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:57:04 -0600GMT (08.09.03, 17:57 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : LG moderators whispering LG whisper, whisper, ok, so Marck, whisper, grab his legs, whisper, LG Allie, take both trouts, whisper, whisper, I'll lure him Urban around LG the corner, whisper, giggle, giggle, snort, whisper, we'll get 'em LG good! LG moderators walk away smirking Oh Leif, you're so sweet... still laughing... ;o) -- Cheers Peter Anything that can go wr ...Segmentation violation -- Core dumped __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hello Jeffrey, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:30:46 -0400 GMT (09/09/2003, 00:30 +0700 GMT), Jeffrey A. Shumway wrote: I notice that many of the threads in this group end up broken. Not here. This seems especially obvious when The Bat! is threading based upon reference (Alt-1). That's what I'm using. What is causing the broken threads? Your email provider. I see yours has the TLD .cc. That's the price you pay. I was on my secondary account @myrealbox for a while, and threads were broken, because the message were delivered to my POP box irregularly. Threads were broken, because messages 2 or 3 days old hadn't been delivered; I received the reply to the reply before the previous two messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
