Re: Good thing the heaters working...

2003-09-18 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo RedLeg,

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:31:37 -0500GMT (18-9-03, 4:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

R Monday afternoon I sent a request for help, about certificates and
R how to successfully connect pop/imap/smtp via SSL/TLS with servers
R that may have certs that do not exactly match the server name or
R may be thier own CA or one not recognized globally as a CA.

Just to keep you from thinking that everybody's ignoring you. I read
your previous message too and haven't got a clue how to proceed. I've
never been very much into secure connections.
As you said most of us here are decent people, so if anyone would've
known a solution it probably would've been answered. Maybe TBBETA is
an option, since the developers are reading along there.

A message to this address should subscribe you to TBBETA:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

2003-09-18 Thread MAU
Hello Jernej,

 Hmm, I've heard somewhere that M$ stopped supporting CSAPI in Office XP, but
 it should work with 2k - at lease I can choose Slovenian (CSAPI) from the
 spell checker menu. I'm missing the English and German CSAPI entries though
 (I have those two dictionaries installed, too; with Office 97 I did have
 English CSAPI entry in TB).

I never tried with 97 but, as I say, TB doesn't seem to see any CSAPI
dics with Office 2000 or XP. At least in my system.

Thanks anyway.

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Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips

Hi Bat! Fans,

I use this macro in replies

%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] %-
(which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'

which translates the received time to my local time (GMT +10).
However if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the local
time still.

Can a macro - RegExP expert help here?

T.I.A.

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Re[2]: HTML Mail selective image display?

2003-09-18 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi,

Leif Gregory wrote:

 Please trim replies to context.

Oops, sorry, accidentally forgot to trim it this time...


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Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)

2003-09-18 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi Ken,

 Is this only available for v2 of TB?

No, it works with v1.6 and higher, afaik.

 Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG?  (AVG has an Outlook Express
 plug-in - is there one for TB???)

It's for TB, you have to download it seperately (until v7, as Marek
already pointed out).

 I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize
 there was an AVG plug-in available!

Well, I feel like it's very useful for checking mail even though I'm
lucky that I don't get many viruses, but you never know...


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Re: Good thing the heaters working...

2003-09-18 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi,

RedLeg wrote:

 ...because it sure is icy in here.

Well, sometimes there are questions nobody can answer that doesn't
mean people ignore you, right? Would you rather want everybody here to
send a sorry, can't help you with that note via PM? ;-))

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Bug? Color Groups are lost when deleting messages to trash

2003-09-18 Thread Roman Katzer
Hi,

I have a filter set up that marks messages read and assigns them to a
certain color group when SpamAssassin thinks they're spam. So far, so
good.

When I delete these messages to trash, some (not all) 'lose' their color
group.

Recently I had 93 bounces going to one account, when a spammer used one of
my domain names in his From-Addresses to send spam. All were marked as
spam. I deleted all 93 mails (all at once, all were in the same folder).
38 retained their color group, the rest did not. There's no apparent
pattern.

Does anyone know what's wrong?

Roman


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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi John,

@18-Sep-2003, 17:33 +1000 (08:33 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat:

JP ... if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
JP time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the
JP local time still.

First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
seeing two of your posts.

Now, on to the question.

I use a far more complicated version of the date formatter that can
be modified to help you but spreads of a series of QTs. Just use
%QINCLUDE=DATER in a reply template or greeting line formatter QT.

,--/ DATER \--
[EMAIL PROTECTED](SDate), %QINCLUDE(TMGET) %-
%IF:'%QINCLUDE(TMGET)''%ODATE(hh:nn)':%-
'%QINCLUDE(TMZONE) (%-
%IF:#%QINCLUDE(TMDATE)##%ODATE(dd mmm )#:%-
#%DATE(dd/mm/)#%-
%OTIME local time)':''_
`-8-

,--/ SDATE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s(\d{1,2})\s%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS-%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s\d{1,2}\s(...)'%-
%REGEXPMATCH='%Headers'-%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s(\d{4})%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%Headers
`-8-

,--/ TMGET \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date\:.*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})%-
\:[\d]{0,2}.*?([-+]\d{4})%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

,--/ TMZONE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date:.*\d\d:\d\d:\d\d.*([+-]\d\d\d\d)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

,--/ TMDATE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date\:.*?,\s([\d]{0,2}\s[\S]{0,3}%-
\s[\d]{0,4})%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

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%To= macro and the address book

2003-09-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
TheBat-users,

 I am trying to send out some mass mail, but I cannot figure out how the
 %To= macro works.

 What I want is this:

  In the To-field: Full name in the address book (ved Company
  name in the address book) Email address in the address book -
  maybe all in   to be sure there are no problems with foreign
  characters.

  Please note: stuff in   are generated fields.

  I also want to begin my mail with: Dear Full name in address
  book, but using %AbToName doesn't work, maybe because the
  addressing does not work.

 Any help

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips
Hi Marck,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 09:44:10 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:44 where I
live) you wrote:


 First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
 reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
 ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
 seeing two of your posts.


I plead guilty.

Macro challenged.  This is what I use, and not sure from your post
how to correct:_

%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Apologies for double posting).

Exactly how should this be fixed.

Also which one of the three macros you posted should I use?

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi John,

@18-Sep-2003, 19:28 +1000 (10:28 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

 First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
 reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
 ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
 seeing two of your posts.

JP Macro challenged.  This is what I use, and not sure from your
JP post how to correct:_

JP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
%TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
replies.

JP Also which one of the three macros you posted should I use?

Erm - all? They were nested quick templates, all interdependent. And
I count five. As I said in the original posting, 'Just use
%QINCLUDE=DATER in a reply template or greeting line formatter
QT.'

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Folder colours

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips

Hi Bat! Fans,

I know this couldn't be done in 1.6x, but now 2.x is here - can
folders have their own unique colours except the bog standard ones?

Handy to identify the top folders in a group of nested folders, for
instance.

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Re: Folder colours

2003-09-18 Thread MAU
Hello John,

 I know this couldn't be done in 1.6x, but now 2.x is here - can
 folders have their own unique colours except the bog standard ones?

I'm afraid it is not possible and I wish it was. Something like Colour
Groups for folders. And perhaps the possibility of selecting which
group(s) to view in the folder pane (am I dreaming? :).

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Re: %To= macro and the address book

2003-09-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 18-09-2003 11:25, I [P] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

P  I am trying to send out some mass mail, but I cannot figure out how the
P  %To= macro works.

P  What I want is this:

P   In the To-field: Full name in the address book (ved Company
P   name in the address book) Email address in the address book -
P   maybe all in   to be sure there are no problems with foreign
P   characters.

P   Please note: stuff in   are generated fields.

P   I also want to begin my mail with: Dear Full name in address
P   book, but using %AbToName doesn't work, maybe because the
P   addressing does not work.

More info:

If I put in:

%TO='%TONAME ved %ABTOCompany %TOADDR it works but not if I put in
%TO='' before that - to delete the normal mass mailing fields of Name
Address.

I know this is a mass mailing, but is there no way to extract and use
the fields for the address book?

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 18 September 2003, 17:33:28 +1000, John Phillips wrote:
 I use this macro in replies
 
 %WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
 [\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
 %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
 On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] %-
 (which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'
 
 which translates the received time to my local time (GMT +10).
 However if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
 time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the local
 time still.
 
 Can a macro - RegExP expert help here?

Well, I don't claim to be a Regexp expert, but the following checks
the day in your timezone to the day in the sender's, and if they are
different, inserts your day and time, otherwise just your time.

%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date:\s*(((.*?),.*?[\d]{4})\s*([\d]{0,2}:%-
[\d]{0,2}:[\d]{0,2})\s*(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
On %SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=4 [GMT%SUBPATT=5] %-
(which was %-
%IF:_%SUBPATT=3__%ODate=ddd_%-
:_%ODate=ddd, h:mm:ss_%-
:_%ODate=h:mm:ss_ where I live) you wrote:'

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TB got bloated

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Gregory
My evaluation continues (very well so far with everybody's help, thank you 
all).

For the next step I imported all Eudora emails into TB (19,000 emails in 
all, across about 30 folders).  At first TB was VERY SLOW to respond to the 
point I thought it was locking up.  I then hid the ticker (all the newly 
imported mssgs were 'new' to TB) and TB seems OK again.  Which leads me to 
ask a question...

In Eudora 3 folders are loaded at startup: IN, OUT,  TRASH.  To make sure 
Eudora stays responsive these folders can be kept smaller.  Does TB load 
anything to memory at startup that users can keep an eye on should 
performance start to degrade?  (I think I proved the ticker can be a 
sticking point.)

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Re[2]: %To= macro and the address book

2003-09-18 Thread Mark L
Hello Peter,

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 11:48:37 AM, you wrote:

PF %TO='%TONAME ved %ABTOCompany %TOADDR it works but not if I put in
PF %TO='' before that - to delete the normal mass mailing fields of Name
PF Address.

PF I know this is a mass mailing, but is there no way to extract and use
PF the fields for the address book?

It looks like the %TO= is clearing the address info. You could try
sticking your line in a variable first, then clearing and rebuilding the
TO header. Once it's rebuilt I think the rest should work. Something
like:

%VAR_To='%ToName ved %ABToCompany' %ABToEmail
%TO=
%TO=%VAR_To


Dear %ABToName



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Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)

2003-09-18 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello ken,

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 5:28:57 PM, you wrote:
k Thanks for the catch! I would have continued to miss that one had
k you not pointed it out. I was using a Quick template to reply below
k quotes and must have set up my sig incorrectly.

No problem. That's what we're all here for. :-)


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Re: TB got bloated

2003-09-18 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, September 18, 2003, 3:18:49 PM, you wrote:
RG For the next step I imported all Eudora emails into TB (19,000 emails in
RG all, across about 30 folders).  At first TB was VERY SLOW to respond to the 
RG point I thought it was locking up.  I then hid the ticker (all the newly 
RG imported mssgs were 'new' to TB) and TB seems OK again.  Which leads me to 
RG ask a question...

I have over 100.000 emails in TB! and he/she is very responsive.
It might take some time to build all the indexes for all your folders
and yes if you have 19K mails in your ticker that might be pushing it.

RG In Eudora 3 folders are loaded at startup: IN, OUT,  TRASH.  To make sure 
RG Eudora stays responsive these folders can be kept smaller.  Does TB load 
RG anything to memory at startup that users can keep an eye on should 
RG performance start to degrade?  (I think I proved the ticker can be a 
RG sticking point.)

No, because performance does not and should not degrade.
Try marking everything you have read read and run kil dupes and Purge
all folders. That should force TB! to build new indexes and clean out
all the extra´s.

This is assuming that the import went well.

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Re: TB got bloated

2003-09-18 Thread Joseph N.
   On Thursday, September 18, 2003, Rich Gregory wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Does TB load  anything to memory at startup that users can keep an
 eye on should  performance start to degrade?

Rich,

I think this is on a lower level than what you're really asking, but
the flying bat in the systray has a performance consequence. Disabling
it, cute though it may be, is one way to avoid tying up some
resources, even a small amount.

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Re: Resend with Edit

2003-09-18 Thread Jerry McRae
Hi Christopher,

CB Hi Batters,

CB Is there a way to resend an email that has already been sent
CB (shift-f6), with the ability to edit it first?

Yes.  Account Properties - Transport - check deferred on delivery.
Then the 're-send' command just puts in the the outbox for you.  If
the box below (combined delivery) is checked, it will go out
automatically then next timed mail check.  If it is not, you will have
to shift-F2 to send your outbox.

I use deferred delivery all the time on non-mailing lists, since I
often want to add or change to the e-mail before it goes out.  Just
remember to send before shutting down TB, but I hardly ever do that!

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Re: %To= macro and the address book

2003-09-18 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Mark,

On 18-09-2003 15:21, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M It looks like the %TO= is clearing the address info. You could try
M sticking your line in a variable first, then clearing and rebuilding
M the TO header. Once it's rebuilt I think the rest should work.

It works!!!

Thank you.

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips
Hi Robin,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 21:39:13 [GMT+1000] (which was 21:39:13 where
I live) you wrote:



 Well, I don't claim to be a Regexp expert, but the following checks
 the day in your timezone to the day in the sender's, and if they are
 different, inserts your day and time, otherwise just your time.



Thanks!

Another Aussie!

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri 19 September 2003, 5:50:31 +1000, John Phillips wrote:
 Another Aussie!

Yes, and since I'm in Victoria I have the black  white flag up this
weekend. :)

Oops that way OT!

Robin

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account suddenly won't create messages

2003-09-18 Thread David Boggon


Grateful for help 

One of my 6 accounts suddenly refuses to create messages (new, reply,
forward, redirect).

I have:

run the maintenance centre
purged and compressed the folders
deleted and restored the account (using v. recent settings)
tried using blank templates

and no success !?

any suggestions to save me from having to start from scratch?

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Marck,

On 18 September 2003, 10:59 Marck on TBUDL in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MDP %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
MDP replies.

I couldn't get the reply macro to work and adapted it thus:

%TO=''%TO=%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is this correct? Or should it be:

%TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

And while I'm here a couple more macro questions:

How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?
Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I avoid
this? Do you have to string them altogether?


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Re: account suddenly won't create messages

2003-09-18 Thread David Boggon

ps that includes creating a message in another account and then
switching the active account through the options menu.

The Bat! just freezes, and the hard drive starts running.

This account has worked flawlessly for 5 months since creation.
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Re:How is this possible

2003-09-18 Thread znark
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G'day Roelof,
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, at 01:24:28 [GMT +0200] (09:24 here) you wrote:

z How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a
z subject header?

RO Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can
RO put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The
RO destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp
RO envelope' and it doesn't get saved  in the message.

Thanks - I think I got it.
I was also wondering...
rhetorical question
What is the point to send an e-mail with only a subject header and
absolutely no other information?
/rhetorical question

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Martin,

@18-Sep-2003, 23:03 Martin Webster [MW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP for replies.

MW I couldn't get the reply macro to work and adapted it thus:

MW %TO=''%TO=%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MW Is this correct? Or should it be:

MW %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

It should be the latter to cater for names that include any special
characters. I personally use
%TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%-
to give the full name.

MW And while I'm here a couple more macro questions:

MW How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?

I use the Initials macro set on the FAQ Macro Library, although
that may need the v2 update treatment.

MW Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I
MW avoid this? Do you have to string them altogether?

That works. What works better is to use the %- pair at the end of a
line of macros when you don't want the newline to appear in the
generated text.

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Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
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Re[2]: Resend with Edit

2003-09-18 Thread Joseph N.
   On Thursday, September 18, 2003, Jerry McRae wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

JM  Just remember to send before shutting down TB

TB! should have a little pop-up reminder before shutting down if there
is mail in the outbox.

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Marck,

On 18 September 2003, 23:14 Marck on TBUDL [MDP]in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MDP It should be the latter to cater for names that include any special
MDP characters. I personally use
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%-
MDP to give the full name.

Cheers! That's what I'm going with.

MW How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?

MDP I use the Initials macro set on the FAQ Macro Library, although
MDP that may need the v2 update treatment.

Seems to work as is. Time will tell.

MW Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I
MW avoid this? Do you have to string them altogether?

MDP That works. What works better is to use the %- pair at the end of a
MDP line of macros when you don't want the newline to appear in the
MDP generated text.

Thanks, very helpful.

- --
Best regards,
Martin Webster

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Re: TB v2 strange behavior

2003-09-18 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Melissa,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sometimes when a new message comes into a folder, I'll hear the new
 message sound, but the new messages list in the folder tree will
 not show in bold font until I actually click on that folder.

What's worse is that it does it in the outbox to. I normally don't
look at it as all mail is instantly sent apart from when I do a mass
mailing using a template. I did this recently and selected 65 mails
with fairly large attachments to send but the outbox remained
stubbornly empty so I reran the template but still an empty outbox.
After a third attempt I happened to click on the outbox and there were
195 messages complete with large attachments all ready to go. Not only
would the recipients have been very annoyed but so would I!

Fortunately I was able to delete them all and start again before the
next scheduled blink which happens every 5 minutes!

This has happened every time since that I have messages waiting in the
outbox. I normally click on the send immediately button for individual
mails.

-- 

Best regards,
Richard

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retreiving read mail

2003-09-18 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello BAT-s,

I have Bat installed on my Notebook and Desktop.

Mail-management is set on Notebook to *Leave messages on the server* and on
my Desktop to *Delete received messages from the server*.

Is it possible to set it up in such a way that the messages I read on
the Notebook first, would show as read on my Desktop when I retrieve them
again?

Would be a helpful feature if possible.

-- 
Best regards,
Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada)  

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.  
 -- Darrin Weinberg   

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Re: How is this possible

2003-09-18 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo znark,

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:11:27 +1000GMT (19-9-03, 0:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

z What is the point to send an e-mail with only a subject header and
z absolutely no other information?

It has no point. It's probably a mutilated message that's gotten to
you or a fragment that was garbled up and sent further as an
independent message, while the good fragment was resent and
incorporated into the real message. Another possibility would be that
is was inserted to hotmail account during some disk maintenance. (or
created due to a disk error) What pleads for the disk-options is the
fact that the message didn't have a message-id, when a message lacks a
proper id, the first mta should insert a proper message-id...

-- 
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Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ETM
Anyone hear know about this garbage?

I have an answer to my problem not receiving your e-mail.
Can't believe  they really followed through. My ISP called
this morning to tell me the  reason is, they have blocked
any Bat program messages. Made sense to  me because I know
you use Bat e-mail program. They told most spam  comes on
Bat program, and they have blocked it, and can't unblock
the  whole program, for just little old me. I am happy to
find out the  problem, but very sad to not be able to get
you contributions to the list. Hang on to your hat, until
Isabel passes, I am thinking of you and  everyone on the
east coast.

This is coming from a coastaccess.com user.

Elaine






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Re: retreiving read mail

2003-09-18 Thread ken
Peter Kerekes wrote:
 Is it possible to set it up in such a way that the messages I read on
 the Notebook first, would show as read on my Desktop when I retrieve them
 again?


I believe you could achieve this using IMAP instead of POP.

-- 
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Re: retreiving read mail

2003-09-18 Thread Jim D
On 9/18/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter
Kerekes said:

 Is it possible to set it up in such a way that the messages I read on
 the Notebook first, would show as read on my Desktop when I retrieve them
 again?

Sounds like IMAP is more like what you are interested in. Is there any
chance that your mail service provider offers IMAP, or that they are
willing to start providing it? With TB's new IMAP support, this may be
just what the doctor ordered.


-- 
Best regards,
 Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com
 [Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600]
---
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me
at once.
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Re: Good thing the heaters working...

2003-09-18 Thread ken
RedLeg wrote:
 If this is a bad place to ask, please point me to the appropriate list


This is just a stab in the dark, but have you tried asking
friends/co-workers/etc. who use a different e-mail client how they have
set up their secure connections?

While that may not give you specific info related to TheBat!, it may
shed some light on other issues that people have discovered.

In a perfect world, you could ask someone who has successfully
configured exactly what you want, right? So start going down the list of
less-than-perfect - you might find someone using the same secure
configs, with the same firewall, same OS, etc. but with a different
e-mail client.

Although I've used TheBat! for a long time, I just recently joined this
list, and have not read your prior posts.  I know how frustrating
problems like your can be, and I sympathize.

What I find often helps is taking a step back and trying to eliminate
possibilities.  (Can you narrow this down to TheBat?  Can you connect
and use TB perfectly fine without SSL?  etc.)

-- 
 ken



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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ken
ETM wrote:
 Anyone hear know about this garbage?


There was a post on the RitLab home page some time ago about behavior
like this (before the site makeover).  It may still be there somewhere.

-- 
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Re: Signing outgoing mail

2003-09-18 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello Marck,

how do I set my AVG AntiVirus plug-in to sign my outgoing emails as
Virus Free. I notice that some of the emails that I receive are
signed in this way. Is it something that I enable from somewhere in
The BAT!?

Thanks.

-- 
Love and Light,
 Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Deborah W
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, 7:58:26 PM, ETM wrote:

E My ISP called this morning to tell me the reason is, they have
E blocked any Bat program messages. Made sense to me because I know
E you use Bat e-mail program. They told most spam comes on Bat
E program, and they have blocked it, and can't unblock the whole
E program, for just little old me.

If they'd done any research at all, they'd have discovered that TB isn't
a spamming program, that most spam comes from Outlook (have they blocked
Outlook messages?),  that trying to control spam by blocking certain
email clients is a very dumb idea in the first place.

The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have disappeared -
anyone know where it might now be found?

-- 
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Re: Signing outgoing mail

2003-09-18 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Granville,

On  Friday, 19. September 2003, at 01:45:11 [GMT +0100] you wrote:

 how do I set my AVG AntiVirus plug-in to sign my outgoing emails as
 Virus Free. I notice that some of the emails that I receive are
 signed in this way. Is it something that I enable from somewhere in
 The BAT!?

In the moment this is  not possible with TheBat! It is a problem of TheBat!
not of the AVG Plugin.

-- 
Ciao

Thomas

Mailer: TheBat! 2.00.6
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1
PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287
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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Etm,

@18-Sep-2003, 19:58 -0400 (19/09/200300:58 UK time) ETM [EOV] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB:

EOV Anyone hear know about this garbage?

Yes. So do RITlabs.

... snip

EOV This is coming from a coastaccess.com user.

Explain this to them. The spam comes with this header:

 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Business

  That is a faked header produced by the Advanced Mass Sender (AMS) by Max Terentiev.
  This spamware offers four different X-Mailer lines:

  Advanced Mass Sender
  Outlook Express 4.72
  X-Mailer
  The Bat! (v1.52f) Business

This is an old set and AMS may have been updated to add a new
version header of, say, 1.61.

Anyway, AMS also fakes an OE header, so if this highly irresponsible
ISP were to block Outlook Express users too, then (and only then)
would their action be fair and reasonable.

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Re: TB got bloated

2003-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder
Rich-

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 6:18:49 AM, you wrote:

RG Eudora stays responsive these folders can be kept smaller.  Does TB load
RG anything to memory at startup that users can keep an eye on should
RG performance start to degrade?  (I think I proved the ticker can be a

Not exactly a memory thing, but...

TB doesn't store the number of messages in a folder, thus on startup
it has to crawl through each folder in order to display the counts of
total and read messages. The amount of time this takes depends on how
many messages are in each folder and whether the index file is valid.
If you have a large number of messages in various folders this can
take quite a bit of time, especially if you haven't compressed in a
while.

When things get slow I try to archive some of my older messages and
just get them out of TB to speed things up.

-- 
-Mark Wieder
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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ETM
Hello Marck

On Thursday, September 18, 2003, you wrote

 Anyway, AMS also fakes an OE header, so if this highly irresponsible
 ISP were to block Outlook Express users too, then (and only then)
 would their action be fair and reasonable.

Thanks, Marck.  I had already told my correspondent that her
server techs were on par with book burners and had brains
that required pooper scoopers.  And, without your
suggestion, had asked whether OE also was being blackholed
since all MY spam came from OE users and  laughter.

I shared my original post here with RitLabs.  There's not
much more I can or am willing to do.

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Re[5]: Junk plug-in

2003-09-18 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi Gunivortus,

 It seems MANY batters *are* successfully using Bayesit as a plug-in.  I
 (and at least 1 other batter) have seen our bats not starting until we
 either reinstall TB *or* del/rename the c:\Bayesit directory.  (Fully
 re4peatable procedure.)

GG I had some problems too in the beginning, one of them was the c:\Bayesit
GG directory. After I used c:\Program Files\Bayesit it ran. But don't ask
GG me why! :-)

The newest version of Bayesit! (v0.4em) has fixed the problem of TB! not starting. It 
is available for download here:

http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04em.zip

-- 
Best regards,
 Christopher Brown
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re[2]: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Jack Morrison
Thursday, September 18, 2003, 8:40:57 PM, you wrote:

 I shared my original post here with RitLabs.  There's not
 much more I can or am willing to do.

Providers/web masters who use ASAP! also block *all* messages coming from TB:

http://www.commtouch.com

I've had it happen to me three times just this week alone.

It's really starting to make me mad, too.

-- 

Best regards,
Jack
  



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Re: TB got bloated

2003-09-18 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Rich,

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 9:18:49 AM, you wrote:

RG For the next step I imported all Eudora emails into TB (19,000 emails in
RG all, across about 30 folders).  At first TB was VERY SLOW to respond to the
RG point I thought it was locking up.  I then hid the ticker (all the newly
RG imported mssgs were 'new' to TB) and TB seems OK again.

Having so many messages in the ticker is pointless and this is what
really slows the things down and grabs quite a bit of resources.
Hmm. Now I think whether it's a good idea to add a new folder to the
ticker's pool by default...

TB! doesn't load folders into memory at startup - the folders are
loaded/unloaded when you actually select them.

I have over 500,000 of messages in all my accounts and don't
experience any slowdowns. I guess, because I've configured the system
right :-)

-- 
Cheers!
 Stefan


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Re[2]: Good thing the heaters working...

2003-09-18 Thread RedLeg
Roelof,
Thursday, September 18, 2003, 2:21:49 AM, you wrote:

 Just to keep you from thinking that everybody's ignoring you. I read
 your previous message too and haven't got a clue how to proceed. I've
 never been very much into secure connections.
 As you said most of us here are decent people, so if anyone would've
 known a solution it probably would've been answered. Maybe TBBETA is
 an option, since the developers are reading along there.

Thanks Roelof and antje,

I suppose I felt like I was overlooking something simple and was ignored
due to that fact (oh no, not that silly question yet again... ;)

I find it very odd that a product line (authentic/secure/regular TB!)
that appears very security/privacy conscious, i.e. pgp and internal cert
integration, authentication features, proper handling of attachments and
active content, s/mime and pgp/mime ready, working on spam and AV plugs,
and SSL/TLS server supporting... Yet it doesn't even mention it, that I
could find in the help file- nor does it seem to support unknown CA or
'incomplete' chains very well at all. Actually a bit surprising if it's
not considered a required or at least popular feature- nothing like
secure transport to the mail server anyways, imo.

I ahd thought of asking in TBbeta, maybe now- between beta testing
cycles would be a good time :)

See ya folks, back to digest lurk mode...

-- 
Most Sincerely,
 Mark (Army RedLeg)

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filter syntax query

2003-09-18 Thread zParticle
I need the proper syntax for filtering messages containing the
following string ANYWHERE (the text between brackets): [ .exe ]

I realize there are other ways to deal with rogue attachments; but
this one's to follow up on a specific query from a user.
-- 
zParticle



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