Re: Command line options

2004-02-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ciprian,

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 09:08:18 +0200GMT (5-2-04, 8:08 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

CT I'm trying to use the Scheduler to perform some administrative tasks (like
CT compressing the folders). Could you help me with the command line options?
CT Or a link ?

AFAIK they can't be performed via a command line parameter yet.

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Re: Command line options

2004-02-05 Thread Ciprian Trofin
CT I'm trying to use the Scheduler to perform some administrative tasks
CT (like compressing the folders). Could you help me with the command
CT line options? Or a link ?

RO AFAIK they can't be performed via a command line parameter yet.

Thanks Roelof. Too bad...

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Re: monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists

2004-02-05 Thread MAU
Hello dAniel,

M MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 That's better.. (with my domain of course) :)

Of course :)

 Is there no way to have filters without moving?

Not that I know of, and I wish there was.

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known

2004-02-05 Thread shemming
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Am I right in thinking that all messages caught by this filter would
end up in the same mailbox?

I currently have filters for individuals or groups that move messages
from them (and to them as I have myself set up as a bcc to all
outgoing messages) but managing each of them for multiple accounts can
be a pain, but I don't think I can achieve the same thing with the
known filter. Am I right?

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Re: known

2004-02-05 Thread MAU
Hello shemming,

 Am I right in thinking that all messages caught by this filter would
 end up in the same mailbox?

Yes, you are.

 I currently have filters for individuals or groups that move messages
 from them (and to them as I have myself set up as a bcc to all
 outgoing messages) but managing each of them for multiple accounts can
 be a pain, but I don't think I can achieve the same thing with the
 known filter. Am I right?

Yes, you are.

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Re: known

2004-02-05 Thread Stuart Hemming
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M Yes, you are.
Bugger! Another plan bites the big one.

TVM.

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Bill,

On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 9:27:45 PM, you wrote
re: Scroll Wheel Problem:

BBTE At 9:16 PM on 2/4/2004, malexander typed ...

m I started all this off when I complained that my that my Logitech
m Trackman cordless wouldn't work in TB and got several people telling
m me their rodents worked fine.  At least I'm glad to know it *isn't*
m just me.

BBTE I have a Logitech MX500 and the scroll wheel works properly, but there
BBTE are two buttons that scroll up and down in most applications. The
BBTE cursor changes in TB, but no scrolling occurs EXCEPT in the editor (I
BBTE just tried it in this message and it works.)

How does one contact the authors of this product to get some resolve
on this ongoing issue?

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IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Would someone be good enough to explain the differences,
advantages, disadvantages of IMAP vs POP3 to me? Or point me to a
simple explanation as I'm not too bright.

Thanks,

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-05 Thread Matt Thoene
On Wednesday, February 4, 2004 @ 11:23:19 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote:

 I know that threading by references rocks and agree with the convenience
 but some may choose not to do so for whatever reason they may have.

I'll hop in here...I do TbR (Thread by Reference) with most of my
folders but many many mail lists have a broken reference setup and
threading by reference just looks ugly.

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Re: IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Jan,

@5-Feb-2004, 09:55 -0500 (05-Feb 14:55 UK time) Jan Rifkinson [JR]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JR Would someone be good enough to explain the differences,
JR advantages, disadvantages of IMAP vs POP3 to me? Or point me to a
JR simple explanation as I'm not too bright.

POP3 is a message delivery protocol. It allows you to download all
of your messages from a POP3 server to local mailbox folders.

IMAP is a mail storage and exchange protocol. Messages can be stored
in folders on the mail server and used from any IMAP capable client
without having to transport messages around on multiple machines. It
can also be used as a transfer protocol, allowing you to store
messages locally as well as or instead of on the remote server.

HTH.

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message finder (search)

2004-02-05 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello

Is there any way to set the search in the message finder window to
search all folders without actually wading through and picking each
folder?

I must be missing something.

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Re: message finder (search)

2004-02-05 Thread MAU
Hello Terry,

 Is there any way to set the search in the message finder window to
 search all folders without actually wading through and picking each
 folder?

Ctrl+Click on the tick box of the highest level folder or account where
you want to search.

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Re: message finder (search)

2004-02-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Terry,

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:37:21 -0800GMT (5-2-04, 17:37 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TGM Is there any way to set the search in the message finder window to
TGM search all folders without actually wading through and picking each
TGM folder?

Yep, just select the account and all folders beneath it will be
selected. I don't know how that's functioning with common folders,
since I don't have those.

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Re[2]: message finder (search)

2004-02-05 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello MAU,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 8:46:29 AM, you wrote:

 Ctrl+Click on the tick box of the highest level folder

Thank youworks great.

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Re[2]: message finder (search)

2004-02-05 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello

I knew I was missing something obvious...right click on the folder
window in message finder and a list of options pops up.

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Re[2]: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-05 Thread drifthat
Hello Thomas,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 12:08:17 AM, you wrote:

TF Does this help you:
TF Account / Properties / Files  Directories / Attachments / Keep
TF attachments in ... ?
TF It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander
TF for that.

Nope, it's true that all newly coming attachments would be extract to spectified 
folder. but in file exploerer, I still dont know which file was attached to some 
email, who the sender is, what the received time...etc

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Re: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations

2004-02-05 Thread Carsten Thönges
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:16:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure what you're trying to do but I just started my own set
 of macros today and two of the macros may interest you. One evaluates
 python expressions, and the other executes python code.

YES! Release NOW!!1

Hm, how do you pass variables from and to the Python code? I mean
for example setting the subject from within Python.

Actually, when I think about it, is this really necessary? One
could do the following:

%FROM=§%-
%PYEXEC=³
subject = '''%SUBJECT'''

if subject[1] == 'a':
print 'Carsten Thönges [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
else:
print '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
³%-
§

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Re: TBPyxie (was: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations)

2004-02-05 Thread tb

-- Thursday, February 5, 2004, 12:10:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:16:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure what you're trying to do but I just started my own set
 of macros today and two of the macros may interest you. One evaluates
 python expressions, and the other executes python code.

 YES! Release NOW!!1

 Hm, how do you pass variables from and to the Python code? I mean
 for example setting the subject from within Python.

 Actually, when I think about it, is this really necessary? One
 could do the following:

You can do a lot. This template results in the attached message.
I just started this yesterday, all for the sake of my spam solution.
Let me know if you have any suggestions, or if I missed something.

#  Exec executes a dos command and returns the output
#  Py executes python code, print statements go to msg
#  Pyx evaluates a python expression, result to msg
#  Python env is global and includes auto-imported tb module
#  Python Exceptions and others go to msg with a stacktrace


%Exec(uptime)

%Py(
tb.set('from','[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
print tb.get('from')
print tb.get('215')
)

%Py(
tb.set('215','[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
)

%Py(
print 'm:'+tb.macro('%%FROM')
print 'v:'+tb.value('FROM')
print 'g:'+tb.get('215')
print 'g:'+tb.get('from')
)

%Py(phi = 1.618)
%Py(print phi)
%Pyx(phi)
%Pyx(5**5)

%Py(
for x in range(10):
  print str(x)
)

%Py(
for i in range(tb.paramcount()):
  print '%%d=%%s' %% (i,tb.param(i))

,123,456)

%Py(

import os, sys

from TMDA.Address import DatedAddress

address = DatedAddress().create('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','5d')

print str(address)

)=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
 Subject: 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




m:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
v:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
g:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
g:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



1.618

1.618
3125

0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9


0=
for i in range(tb.paramcount()):
  print '%d=%s' % (i,tb.param(i))


1=123
2=456


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Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Terry
Hi all,

When right clicking on an address and selecting Add to Address Book,
the window for a contact pops up with data filled in. That's great.:)

However, (isn't there always one?) I often need to input additional
details (such as phone, web site, etc.) that are in the e-mail into
the contact window. That's where the problem comes in. The new/edit
contact window stays on top and I can't get back to the e-mail to get
the details. My only choice is to close the add contact window, go to
the e-mail, copy the info I want and add it. Sometimes I add it to the
Other/Memo field if it's, for example, address, telephone and fax and
then cut and paste from there, otherwise I am opening and closing and
opening and closing and...well, you get the picture. :) A rather
tedious way of doing things, I think.

Please tell me that I'm a clueless TB! user and there's an easy way
around this.

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Re: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Bill Blinn Technology Editor
At 1:49 PM on 2/5/2004, Terry typed ...

T the contact window. That's where the problem comes in. The new/edit
T contact window stays on top and I can't get back to the e-mail to get
T the details. My only choice is to close the add contact window, go to
T the e-mail, copy the info I want and add it. Sometimes I add it to the
T Other/Memo field if it's, for example, address, telephone and fax and
T then cut and paste from there, otherwise I am opening and closing and
T opening and closing and...well, you get the picture. :) A rather
T tedious way of doing things, I think.

I can save you one (small) step. Copy the text you want before you
R-click the address. You'll still have to paste it into a big field (I
often use the street address field because it's fairly large) and then
cut/paste from there, but at least you don't have to close the AB and
open it again.


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Re: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread MAU
Hello Terry,

snipped manually :
 Please tell me that I'm a clueless TB! user and there's an easy way
 around this.

No, you are not clueless. TB is a great program but what you have
described is one of its most stupid limitations. I have used TB for over
2-3 years and the limitation has always been there. And you are not the
first (or second, or third, or... ) to complain about it.

But don't feel bad if you have problems entering data appearing in an
e-mail message you just have received into the Address Book of your
email client. Open up Smartbat and you can evaluate how much is 2+2,
that works a treat ;-)

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Re: TBPyxie

2004-02-05 Thread Carsten Thönges
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ Python and a plug-in ]

 You can do a lot. This template results in the attached message.
 I just started this yesterday, all for the sake of my spam solution.
 Let me know if you have any suggestions, or if I missed something.

 #  Exec executes a dos command and returns the output

Do we need it? I'd keep the plug-in as simple and tiny as
possible. But okay.

 #  Py executes python code, print statements go to msg
 #  Pyx evaluates a python expression, result to msg

I'd suggest to rename the macros to %Python and %PythonEval. Isn't
that a lot more beautiful? :-)

 #  Python env is global and includes auto-imported tb module

Fine. Again, I wouldn't call this module »tb« but »thebat«. IMHO tb
is a little short and likely (?) to conflict with any other module.

 #  Python Exceptions and others go to msg with a stacktrace

Very good.

[ Example ]

This is so cool :-)

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Re[2]: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Terry
On Thursday, February 05, 2004 at 6:57 PM, Bill wrote:

 I can save you one (small) step. Copy the text you want before you
 R-click the address. You'll still have to paste it into a big field (I
 often use the street address field because it's fairly large) and then
 cut/paste from there, but at least you don't have to close the AB and
 open it again.

Hi Bill,

Thanks, Bill. I try to remember to do that, but I usually don't. :(

I just wonder why some windows lock the program and others don't.

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Re: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Terry,

T However, (isn't there always one?) I often need to input additional
T details (such as phone, web site, etc.) that are in the e-mail into
T the contact window. That's where the problem comes in. The new/edit
T contact window stays on top and I can't get back to the e-mail to get
T the details.

You can define a system shortcut for SmartBat, copy the
information you need to there and invoke SmartBat whenever you need it
using the hot key...


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Re[2]: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Terry
Hi Miguel,


On Thursday, February 05, 2004 at 7:14 PM, Miguel wrote:

 No, you are not clueless. TB is a great program but what you have
 described is one of its most stupid limitations. I have used TB for over
 2-3 years and the limitation has always been there. And you are not the
 first (or second, or third, or... ) to complain about it.

sigh  Oh well.

 But don't feel bad if you have problems entering data appearing in an
 e-mail message you just have received into the Address Book of your
 email client. Open up Smartbat and you can evaluate how much is 2+2,
 that works a treat ;-)

I love Smartbat.  I've got about ten pads open that I sort all kinds
of info into.

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Re[4]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Bill,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 4:27:45 AM, you wrote:

BBTE I have a Logitech MX500 and the scroll wheel works properly, but there
BBTE are two buttons that scroll up and down in most applications.

What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those
two buttons work as expected here...


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Re: TBPyxie

2004-02-05 Thread tb

-- Thursday, February 5, 2004, 1:55:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [ Python and a plug-in ]

 You can do a lot. This template results in the attached message.
 I just started this yesterday, all for the sake of my spam solution.
 Let me know if you have any suggestions, or if I missed something.

 #  Exec executes a dos command and returns the output

 Do we need it? I'd keep the plug-in as simple and tiny as
 possible. But okay.

Why does it have to be as tiny as possible?

Yeah I think I need it. There's also TRIM. These are functions I
have deemed useful for executing Python code flexibly in The Bat.

 #  Py executes python code, print statements go to msg
 #  Pyx evaluates a python expression, result to msg

 I'd suggest to rename the macros to %Python and %PythonEval. Isn't
 that a lot more beautiful? :-)

I used to have those, and renamed to Py and Pyx because
I thought those were a lot more beautiful actually...

Py is obvious, Pyx is Python eXpression, akin to the Win32
convention of appending Ex to new or revised API functions.

I wrote this because I've never used TB macros and templates.
I will start using templates now, via Pyxie, and I won't have
much (or any) real TB code in them. I wanted the names terse.

 #  Python env is global and includes auto-imported tb module

 Fine. Again, I wouldn't call this module »tb« but »thebat«. IMHO tb
 is a little short and likely (?) to conflict with any other module.

That might be a consideration, but I like to be terse in code.
It does look like I cornered the module-named-tb market though.
Perhaps if another comes along which we find ourselves using in
our tb macros we can use this same argument on them instead. :p

 #  Python Exceptions and others go to msg with a stacktrace

 Very good.

 [ Example ]

 This is so cool :-)

First release, v0.4 is available :
http://kaishaku.org/software/tbpyxie/

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Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Wayne,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 4:35:56 PM, you wrote:


WH How does one contact the authors of this product to get some resolve
WH on this ongoing issue?

Here is the link - https://bt.ritlabs.com :-)

But, basically, wheel problems are more likely local configuration
issues - I've tested MS IntelliMoust, several Logitech models, two
Genius models and a BTC 4 buttons + wheel personally. No problem
whatsoever. However, I've found that some mouse drivers use
non-standard behaviour by default and may need some tweaking...


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Re[5]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Bill Blinn - Technology Editor
At 4:26 PM on 2/5/2004, Stefan Tanurkov typed ...

S What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those
S two buttons work as expected here...

You've just made a semi-liar of me. They're set as cruise up and
cruise down and I just tested them again. I have a full-height
account list on the left, message list on top right, message preview
on bottom right.

In the account list, cruise up/down work as expected.

In the message list, cruise up/down work as expected.

In a message, the cursor changes to the (up) and (down) icon, but
nothing happens. (I did try it with a message that had a scroll bar).

In the editor, cruise up/down work as expected.

So that's 3 out of 4. Only the preview pane doesn't work as expected.



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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Chris
Wayne Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 5-Feb-2004 9:35:56 AM
Scroll Wheel Problem mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How does one contact the authors of this product to get some resolve
 on this ongoing issue?
1) Send a bug report using Help - Feedback - Bug Report
2) Search for your problem at the bug tracking web site:
http://www.ritlabs.com/bt
  2a) If you find your bug, check its status and possibly add a bug
  note or reopen it.
  2b) If you don't find your bug, submit a new one.

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Re[2]: IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread rich gregory
JR Would someone be good enough to explain the differences,
JR advantages, disadvantages of IMAP vs POP3 to me?

I am trying to better understand this myself. So far here's what I
have, which is *none* of the tech details and just *a bit* of the
usage differences.

With POP your choices *for receive* are A) leave mail on server or B)
delete messages when downloaded. This means if you check your mail
from 2 (or more) different machines *only* your primary machine
would be the one you want set to delete mssgs. When checking from
other PCs you would want to leave mail on server so everything ends up
in only the one email client on your primary PC. This works well with
no problems.

When *sending* using POP there is no problem if you send from your
primary PC - BUT, sending from any other PC would leave you no record
of a sent message. The common work-around for this is to BCC yourself.
It works, but is hardly perfect.

With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you primary PC
or not and if you send from any other PC it puts the sent mssg into
your sent mail folder in your primary email client for you.

Am I close?

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Re[6]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Bill,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 11:35:13 PM, you wrote:

BBTE So that's 3 out of 4. Only the preview pane doesn't work as expected.

3 out of 4 ain't bad :-)  I can't test it right now because the mouse
is at the office and may become that you've made a semi-liar of me
;-)  Tomorrow I will check this out, I suppose it's an RTV problem...



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Reply-To on TBUDL

2004-02-05 Thread tb

I am just wondering if this list removes my Reply-To.



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Re[3]: IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote:

RG With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you primary PC
RG or not and if you send from any other PC it puts the sent mssg into
RG your sent mail folder in your primary email client for you.

IMAP is like web mail on adrenaline.

It doesn't matter which client you're using as it doesn't matter what
browser you're using to work with your webmail. The server doesn't care
or make a distinction with which location you're working from.

In fact, you can have multiple clients monitoring the same IMAP account
concurrently and even on the same machine.

The beauty of IMAP is that whatever work you've done with your mail that
reside in folders on the server, at one location will be evident at any
other location you work from. This includes common message flagging such
as if the messages have been read, replied to etc.

IMAP seems to support other means of message labelling such as some
forms of colour coding which seems to be in the process of being
standardised or has already been standardised. Any other form of message
labelling, flagging would have to be client specific and that sort of
thing wouldn't propagate from location to location. So it's not all
powerful in that regard. :)

To work with IMAP, a fast connection is pretty essential or else it
makes things tedious. Not that you can't work with a slow connection but
it's really not pleasant if where you work with mail the most, has a slow
IMAP server connection. It's important that you keep this in mind when
making a decision to change.

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Re: Reply-To on TBUDL

2004-02-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo tb,

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:27:30 -0600GMT (5-2-04, 23:27 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

tko I am just wondering if this list removes my Reply-To.

Yes, it does. Actually it inserts it's own Reply-To, but the effect is
the same.
And apparently it's removing your signature delimiter too. g,dr

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Re[4]: IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread rich gregory
AM RG With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you
primary PC
AM RG or not and if you send from any other PC it puts the sent
mssg into
AM RG your sent mail folder in your primary email client for you.

AM IMAP is like web mail on adrenaline.
AM It doesn't matter which client you're using as it doesn't matter
what
AM browser you're using to work with your webmail. The server
doesn't care
AM or make a distinction with which location you're working from.
AM In fact, you can have multiple clients monitoring the same IMAP
account
AM concurrently and even on the same machine.
AM The beauty of IMAP is that whatever work you've done with your
mail that
AM reside in folders on the server, at one location will be evident
at any
AM other location you work from.


And how would one tell such an uber-server it's OK to delete messages?
(You can't expect to store *everything* there and not delete!)


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wrapping quotes stopped working

2004-02-05 Thread rich gregory
Hello Batters!

My bat has started screwing up quotes. Can someone tell me which
configuration checkbox(es) must've changed after a recent registry
problem forced a roll-back?

What happens *now* is that ALT-L does not recognize where the start of
line quote marks are and considers them just another part of the text.

THIS
AM RG With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you
primary PC
AM RG or not and if you send from any other PC it puts the sent
mssg into

BECOMES THIS
AM RG With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you
primary PC AM RG or not and if you send from any other PC it puts
the sent mssg into

Thank you much

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Re[2]: Add to Address Book

2004-02-05 Thread Terry
Hi Stefan,

 You can define a system shortcut for SmartBat, copy the
 information you need to there and invoke SmartBat whenever you need it
 using the hot key...

Thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately, using Smartbat alone denies
me the ability to export that info from the address book.

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Filter conditions ORed

2004-02-05 Thread rich gregory
Hello Batters!

I have 2 conditions set in a filter rule.
  subject = x
  sender = y
I want them to be ORed and it seems they are being ANDed. How can I
make sure that if *either* condition is met the rule will be invoked?

Thx

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Chris,

On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 4:36:07 PM, you wrote
re: Scroll Wheel Problem:

C 1) Send a bug report using Help - Feedback - Bug Report
C 2) Search for your problem at the bug tracking web site:
C http://www.ritlabs.com/bt
C   2a) If you find your bug, check its status and possibly add a bug
C   note or reopen it.
C   2b) If you don't find your bug, submit a new one.

Thanks. Just did. I was not aware this existed!

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Re: Filter conditions ORed

2004-02-05 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello rich,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 3:59:31 PM, you wrote:
rg I have 2 conditions set in a filter rule.
rg   subject = x
rg   sender = y
rg I want them to be ORed and it seems they are being ANDed. How can I
rg make sure that if *either* condition is met the rule will be invoked?


You need to put subject=x in the string, then on the 'Alternatives'
tab, you need to put sender=y.


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Re: Filter conditions ORed

2004-02-05 Thread Onno Broekmans
On Thursday, February 5, 2004 , rich gregory wrote:

rg I have 2 conditions set in a filter rule.   subject = x   sender =
rg y I want them to be ORed and it seems they are being ANDed. How
rg can I make sure that if *either* condition is met the rule will be
rg invoked?

I think you should try adding the second condition to the
Alternatives page.

Regards,

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Re[5]: IMAP vs POP

2004-02-05 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote:

RG And how would one tell such an uber-server it's OK to delete messages?
RG (You can't expect to store *everything* there and not delete!)

You can delete messages you don't want or save as in move/copy them to
local folders.

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Stefan,

On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 4:30:09 PM, you wrote
re: Scroll Wheel Problem:

ST However, I've found that some mouse drivers use
ST non-standard behaviour by default and may need some tweaking...

Such as? I have tried all of the settings available with my mouse
drivers and also several version of the drivers. thanks!

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Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread malexander
Hello Wayne,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 11:30:19 PM, you wrote:

WH Hello Stefan,

WH On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 4:30:09 PM, you wrote
WH re: Scroll Wheel Problem:

ST However, I've found that some mouse drivers use
ST non-standard behaviour by default and may need some tweaking...

WH Such as? I have tried all of the settings available with my mouse
WH drivers and also several version of the drivers. thanks!

Same here. I can't scroll in the message editor or any of the three
windows. Just doesn't work.  I don't. actually, see how it can be a
rodent driver problem in any case as my Logitech trackball exhibits
normal behaviour in *every* other application I have loaded on my hard
disk.

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Re: wrapping quotes stopped working

2004-02-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich,

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:56:26 -0500GMT (5-2-04, 23:56 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

rg My bat has started screwing up quotes. Can someone tell me which
rg configuration checkbox(es) must've changed after a recent registry
rg problem forced a roll-back?

Check these:
  Options - Preferences - Editor pref - Quote name limit
andSmart wrapping quoted text

The second needs to be checked and the first needs to be set to
something sensible like seven.

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Stefan-

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 1:30:09 PM, you wrote:

FWIW, my MS Wheel Optical Mouse 1.1A works flawlessly, too, once I
discovered the trick of selecting the proper pane...

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Re: TBPyxie

2004-02-05 Thread tb

 #  Py executes python code, print statements go to msg
 #  Pyx evaluates a python expression, result to msg

 I'd suggest to rename the macros to %Python and %PythonEval. Isn't
 that a lot more beautiful? :-)

 #  Python env is global and includes auto-imported tb module

 Fine. Again, I wouldn't call this module »tb« but »thebat«. IMHO tb
 is a little short and likely (?) to conflict with any other module.

I think this code from my current tbudl template looks better
with the shorter names. The module tbutil is not part of Pyxie.

  %py(
  
  import tbutil
  tmda = tbutil.tmda(tb,'dated','5d','[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
  
  tb.set('from','[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
  tb.set('to','[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
  tb.set('cc',tb.get('oldfrom'))
  tb.set('replyto',tmda)
  
  )
  -- 
  kaishaku.reply-to = %pyx('tmda')

I have some questions about TB macros and such now...

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A greater appreciation for TB!

2004-02-05 Thread Darrin
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Thursday, February 05, 2004
8:56:32 PM

Hi,
Ive been using TB for about maybe 1.5 years now. I just started
messing with outlook 2003. You would think that software that is as
high priced as outlook could at least do some decent quoting of text.
Even in the latest version its horrible. The only thing outlook has
that I seriously like is the search folders which is a feature I would
like to see in TB one day. It makes life much easier.
TB really has some great features I take for granted at times like the
quoting, quick templates, macros, filters, etc... For the price its
simply a steal IMO.

Long Live TB! :)

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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-05 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Mark,

On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 10:53:50 PM, you wrote
re: Scroll Wheel Problem:

MW FWIW, my MS Wheel Optical Mouse 1.1A works flawlessly, too, once I
MW discovered the trick of selecting the proper pane...

The problem does not occur with Microsoft mice. Unfortunately,
Microsoft does not make any mice that fit my hand correctly.

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Command line options

2004-02-05 Thread Ciprian Trofin
Hi,

I'm trying to use the Scheduler to perform some administrative tasks (like
compressing the folders). Could you help me with the command line options?
Or a link ?

Cip



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