Re: Shared Quick Templates not sharing
Hello Allie, on Mon, 23. Feb 2004 at 19:46:25 -0500 you wrote: DH Confirmed.. DH ctrl-shift-q shows no shared QTs from other accounts. A ctrlshiftq brings up the QT config panel listing only the quick A templates for the currently selected account. This doesn't mean that A shared quick templates will not work across accounts. You're right, of course. So, not confirmed.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?
Hello Doug, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 06:10:24 + you wrote: No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter BayesIt which is included in that distribution. D I can't get it to kick in. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, tried to D follow the instructions. When it's active in Options - Preferences - Anti-Spam you should be able to mark Spam with Specials - Mark as Junk. Look at the Anti-Spam options (in Preferences), what TB should do with spams and you should have it working. If a non-spam should be put into your set spam/junk folder you have to use Specials - Mark as NOT Junk to redefine Bayesit's base. HTH. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Hello Mark, on Mon, 23. Feb 2004 at 21:07:05 + you wrote: M I then checked the Help About Box, and my version number had M reverted back to 2.01.3! Probably you have two installations somewhere.. Do a systemwide search for thebat.exe.. M What is happening! I had to blink several times. Can imagine.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Off Topic, but I've no where else to post it.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The BT page includes a mailto link to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used it and got the following in reply. ,- [ ] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:39:17 - | The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message | was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient | directly to find out the correct address. `- - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm SE PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQDtXfNttnLhkydF1EQIt/ACg75rTNbqbAt38402VzauNvL1zKg0An25G /yRhw8wPfvG4BYrRYAJsCTTS =96TW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?
Quoting dAniel hAhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Doug, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 06:10:24 + you wrote: No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter BayesIt which is included in that distribution. D I can't get it to kick in. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, tried to D follow the instructions. When it's active in Options - Preferences - Anti-Spam you should be able to mark Spam with Specials - Mark as Junk. Look at the Anti-Spam options (in Preferences), what TB should do with spams and you should have it working. This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't Bayesit start to filter out spam by itself? When does it start doing that? If a non-spam should be put into your set spam/junk folder you have to use Specials - Mark as NOT Junk to redefine Bayesit's base. I've also been marking some non-spam as Not Junk in accordance with the instructions. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View all affiliated messages?
Hello mm, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 4:01:55 AM, you wrote: mM Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are mM related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message mM 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of the mM replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? Yes. :-) Currently, you can search for reply to (or forward of) the selected message by using the Specials|Open reply menu command or using Ctrl+Backspace shortcut if the message list is active. However, there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. Also, there is no way to see the entire thread by using this function... I guess, it's another feature to be added to the wish list :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View all affiliated messages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Yes. :-) Currently, you can search for reply to (or forward of) the selected message by using the Specials|Open reply menu command or using Ctrl+Backspace shortcut if the message list is active. However, there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. Also, there is no way to see the entire thread by using this function... I guess, it's another feature to be added to the wish list :-) What if the message has multiple replies or forwards? - -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.02 iD8DBQFAO16899Uk9gEHIdwRAqAZAJ9njwPCgpovaNv5d6y9SsISw99JIwCgr7Sd tbVu8pIVqDjZpTzIVLT15+Y= =pJXM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?
Hello Allie, AM What if the message has multiple replies or forwards? That's what I meant by However, there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. ;-)) We'll seek for a more viable solution while we're building the new Virtual Folders architecture... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Hello Mark, Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:23:46 PM, you wrote: M Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). How do I get back to the old version! You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7 solves the problem with moving to 2.04 from versions earlier than 2.02. It's now available from TB! official home page -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View all affiliated messages?
Hello Stefan, We'll seek for a more viable solution while we're building the new Virtual Folders architecture... Ooops! What's that See the wish I just logged in BT. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002598 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 9:04:12 AM, you wrote: ST Hello mm, ST Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 4:01:55 AM, you wrote: mM Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are mM related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message mM 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of the mM replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? ST Yes. :-) Currently, you can search for reply to (or forward of) the ST selected message by using the Specials|Open reply menu command or ST using Ctrl+Backspace shortcut if the message list is active. OK. Yes, I've just tried that. Very handy. I did notice that if Ctrl+Backspace is invoked a second time it bring up the next reply in the sequence. ST However, ST there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. Correct. ST Also, ST there is no way to see the entire thread by using this function... I ST guess, it's another feature to be added to the wish list :-) Oooo. Yes! Which brings me to the problem of lodging a feature request, but that is for another mail. Thanks Stephan; all of you! -- Maggiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62r; WinXP Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Off Topic, but I've no where else to post it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BT page includes a mailto link to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used it and got the following Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?
Hello Miguel, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 10:56:36 AM, you wrote: M Hello Stefan, We'll seek for a more viable solution while we're building the new Virtual Folders architecture... M Ooops! What's that See the wish I just logged in BT. That is precisely what just happened to me! I thought my chronological display had gotten fractured. Now I am convinced more than ever that Stefan Knows All. 8-)) -- Maggie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Virtual folders - a nice way to save, repeat and view Message Finder searches
Hello MAU, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 9:52:25 AM, MAU wrote: M So, I was going to make a feature request to be able to save Message M Finder settings, not just the string history but the Options and M Advanced tabs settings to be able to easily reproduce the search when M needed. ... snip M If you like this idea and would like to support it, please go to: M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002598 Bug Note: You have my vote for saved searches, and not just history. Saved searches is a feature that I have missed since I quit using VA about 2 years ago. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard
Hello Mark, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:08:19 -0800 GMT (24/02/2004, 06:08 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: Ah. But you do have to remember that there's something to look for, even if you don't remember where it is. For me, putting these things in an improved Help feature would serve the purpose much better. I like and use the menu navigator, but that doesn't preclude any additional help features you desire. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. We are the people our parents warned us about. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 9:53:25 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7 ST solves the problem Just thought I'd let you know the Back button did not work on the install for me. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)
Hello Doug, On 24 Feb 2004 at 13:58:38 + GMT [14:58 CET] you wrote: DW This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't Bayesit start DW to filter out spam by itself? When does it start doing that? Yes, but in my experience it needs a lot of spam before. At least a few hundred messages, the more the better. Another thing you could try is to lower the score needed to move a spam to the junk folder as set in preferences. You can set it very low, I've set it to 1, the absolute minimum, and still get no false positives. -- Cheers, Andre Have you ever noticed? Everyone going slower than you is an idiot and everyone going faster a maniac. Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
E I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but E the search mechanism works fine (through single or multiple E folders). I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered differently... My earlier version wanted chickensoup but the newer version works with chicken soup -- Rich Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Split-mode toggle
Hello Batters! Is there now (or can I create) a keyboard toggle to switch the View | Split mode selection between full width preview pane full height account tree. I find myself switching back and forth occasionally and it would be a minor time-saver. -- Rich Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Split-mode toggle
Hello rich, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:05:36 PM, rich gregory wrote: rg Is there now (or can I create) a keyboard toggle to switch the View | rg Split mode selection between full width preview pane full height rg account tree. I don't see a shortcut defined in the shortcuts editor. Why don't you set a shortcut up for the split modes you desire to toggle between. From the main windows Alt+F12 | expand Main Menu | expand View | expand Split Mode | select desired Split Mode and hit the desired shortcut key(s). Make sure you check for conflicts. HTH! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Could not store message
Hello, I have a very strangs problem. I have several accounts and all work fine except of one. The configuration of the accounts are the same (from the directories). I even have two accounts with the same provider. With one I could retrieve my mails but in the other account I get the error message you can see in the logfile below. I have no explanation for that as I have enough space on the hdd and the other accounts save the mails in the same temp folder. As this is not such an important mail account it isn't a problem for me! But I would like to know who has a similar problem. Or if you know how this can happen. Here the excerpt of the logfile -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= schnipp -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 21.02.2004, 21:59:29: FETCH - receiving mail messages 21.02.2004, 21:59:38: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 21.02.2004, 21:59:42: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 21.02.2004, 22:00:15: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new !21.02.2004, 22:00:21: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOKUME~1\Martin\LOKALE~1\Temp\bat1C90.tmp) 21.02.2004, 22:00:21: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= schnapp -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.04.4 on Windows XP Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Split-mode toggle
Hello Greg, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:35:27 -0600 GMT (25/02/2004, 01:35 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: [...] and hit the desired shortcut key(s). Make sure you check for conflicts. TB will take care of that. It won't allow you to define a shortcut that has already been assigned. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Notice in a lift: Eighth floor button out of order. Please push buttons five and three. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hello Martin, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:36:20 -0600 GMT (25/02/2004, 01:36 +0700 GMT), Martin Schneider wrote: With one I could retrieve my mails but in the other account I get the error message you can see in the logfile below. Explanation: TB downloads messages as .tmp files first into a temp directory before importing them into the database. The message you are trying to download contains a virus, so the tmp file is quaratined by your anti-virus software and TB cannot store it into the the message base. At next mailcheck, the same thing happens, as TB didn't mark is as read, because it hasn't been successfully downloaded and stored. Solution suggestions: 1.) Use the mail despatcher and delete that message on the server. 2.) Disable your AV software, download the message, deleted it, empty the Trash or delete that message inside the Trash folder. Then compress Inbox, the folder to which it was filtered (if applicable) *and* Trash. Only then re-enable your AV software. (The reason for compressing is that otherwise your AV software might quarantine the whole folders upon next access, because the offending message is still in there, albeit invisible.) 3.) I hear that the TB anti-virus plugins work a in more comfortable way. Alas, I have not heard of one that has left the beta stage. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nach Ansicht des Sachverstaendigen durfte der Verlust zwischen 250.000 und einer Viertelmillion liegen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hallo Martin, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:36:20 -0600GMT (24-2-04, 19:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MS 21.02.2004, 21:59:42: FETCH - authenticated (plain) MS 21.02.2004, 22:00:15: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new MS !21.02.2004, 22:00:21: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOKUME~1\Martin\LOKALE~1\Temp\bat1C90.tmp) There are two possibilities. Either the message has a substantial attachment that it can't be stored to your disk or the message is infected with a virus and your virus scanner is preventing it from being written to disk. The latter is the most likely. Two possible remedies: Delete the file from the server without downloading it (use the mail dispatcher) Temporarily disable your virus scanner, download your mail (that's save, because TB won't infect you unless you open the attachment manually) delete the message, compress your message base and enable your virus scanner again. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Split-mode toggle
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:39:28 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Make sure you check for conflicts. TF TB will take care of that. I didn't know this. TF It won't allow you to define a shortcut that has already been TF assigned. So why the conflicts button? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Could not store message
[snip] Delete the file from the server without downloading it (use the mail dispatcher) [snip] I thought I was getting the hang of The Bat's deeper realms... Where do I access 'Dispatcher' - I cannot find a link, button, menu option to it anywhere. It is mentioned and explained in the Help index but the Help Index always assumes the user has found something and wants to find out how to use it - it never works on the principle that I search for something in the Index and then want to find out how to actually apply the instructions. :-( -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Split-mode toggle
rg ... can I create a keyboard toggle to switch the View | Split rg mode selection between full width preview pane full height rg account tree. GS Why don't you set a shortcut up for the split modes you desire to GS toggle between. From the main windows Alt+F12 | expand Main Menu | GS expand View | expand Split Mode | select desired Split Mode and GS hit the desired shortcut key(s). Make sure you check for GS conflicts. Brings up a question: Is there a way to display a list of taken shortcuts? I looked at the ALT-F12 and it shows a list *BY FUNCTION* of shortcuts assigned, but even when the list is fully expanded there isn't a way to see BY FUNCTION SHORTCUT KEY what key combinations are taken vs available. -- Rich Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hello Marten, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 1:06:30 PM, you wrote: Where do I access 'Dispatcher' - I cannot find a link, button, menu option to it anywhere. Shift-Ctrl-F2 or Account / Dispatch Mail on Server -- Dave Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit
Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:33:35 -0500 (5:33 PM EST here) Dan Greenberg wrote: Once I copied and installed the developer's primer files (http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/Bayesit/) this thing works great. hasn't missed a one, threshold 30. and no false positives. can't find the instructions url so I'll just copy them here: Has anyone else tried this? With what results? I have uploaded my entire Bayesit directory, so that anyone can download it and have the pleasure of using one of the finest spam filters anywhere. You will not have to train it with so many emails, like before, just download and install Bayesit from here: {http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm} ...then download these files {http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/Bayesit/} and then unzip them to your Application Data directory, it will overwrite your Bayesit folder. Or you can unzip them to a temp folder and then move them to the Documents and Settings/Application Data folder manually. (you should already have the Bayesit folder there since you installed Bayesit, just overwrite it) For example mine is found at: C:\Documents and Settings\John\Application Data\Bayesit After downloading all 6 files, then double-click the one named BayesIt.part01.exe When you unzip these files it will replace your Bayesit folder in your Application Data Directory. Here are a list of all the files (with file sizes) you will need to download: {BayesIt.part01.exe} (1.4m) {BayesIt.part02.rar} (1.4m) {BayesIt.part03.rar} (1.4m) {BayesIt.part04.rar} (1.4m) {BayesIt.part05.rar} (1.4m) {BayesIt.part06.rar} (583k) Don't worry about training Bayesit with a bunch of messages, just go through the motions, because this will replace all the training anyway. Using: The Bat! v2.04.7 MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hi Marten, on Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:06:30 +GMT, you wrote: MG [snip] Delete the file from the server without downloading it (use the mail dispatcher) MG [snip] MG I thought I was getting the hang of The Bat's deeper realms... MG Where do I access 'Dispatcher' Account -- Dispatch mail on server -- All messages -- Cheers Peter Who the is General Failure and what's he doing on my computer? Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hello tbudl Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 6:48:21 PM, in which you wrote: T Solution suggestions: T 1.) Use the mail despatcher and delete that message on the server. T 2.) Disable your AV software, ... T 3.) I hear that the TB anti-virus plugins work a in more comfortable T way. Alas, I have not heard of one that has left the beta stage. or 4.) Consider using NOD32 - without any plug-in - (www.eset.com) which doesn't cause this problem. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Split-mode toggle
Hello rich, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 1:09:52 PM, rich gregory wrote: rg Brings up a question: Is there a way to display a list of taken rg shortcuts? Not to my knowledge. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Could not store message
Hello Marten, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 1:06:30 PM, you wrote: Where do I access 'Dispatcher' - I cannot find a link, button, menu option to it anywhere. Shift-Ctrl-F2 or Account / Dispatch Mail on Server That was defintiely not there just now! It only appeared as an option when you sent this reply. How did you do that? :-)) -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard
Hello Mark, on Sunday, February 22, 2004, 5:39:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: The Menu Navigator is one of the first things I turned off. Have you actually found something useful buried in there? Well, for me not. And second for me is flickering when it is switched on. Probably has to do that my laptop is not the fastest (600 MHz) but for mailing it is quite okay. I guess the weak processor plus Win XP makes the item flickering. I don't mind it as I am not using it - but maybe someone wants it and is disturbed by the flickering. -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.04.4 on Windows XP Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One account for home and work
Hello Alexander, on Saturday, February 21, 2004, 3:10:27 AM, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: So I'm looking for solution, how to synchronize one account (message base) for that two PCs, to have equal message bases, so when replying at home, don't reply at work etc... Yes i know about IMAP, but if exists any POP3|SMTP solution? Well, in theory you could use the Synchronise function. If you have a USB stick (or something similar) you could save the synchronisation function. If it works? No idea. I never tested it. But this is why I was asking for an extended synchronisation function where you can upload adress-books, calendars etc. to a ftp-account (or better upload it by scp (ssh-copy, which means that the transfer is encrypted)) where the other The Bat can synchronise the data (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). For mails this might be more difficult as there is a bigger data volume than with address book or calendar. But there I could imagine that all data since last synchronisation is saved to the ftp-account. By doing that you always would have synchronous data. If you have a very fast internet connection you also could put the data files on a share which you can access by mounting that directories. Then you even don't have to synchronise data. But of course the working will be definitely slower than working with a message base stored locally... -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.04.4 on Windows XP Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit (was: Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?)
Hello Andre Wichartz, on Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:44:26 +0100 (2004-02-24 18:44:26 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [AW] wrote (at least in part): DW This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't DW Bayesit start to filter out spam by itself? When does it start DW doing that? AW Yes, but in my experience it needs a lot of spam before. At least a few AW hundred messages, the more the better. Another thing you could try is AW to lower the score needed to move a spam to the junk folder as set in AW preferences. You can set it very low, I've set it to 1, the absolute AW minimum, and still get no false positives. Up to the 2.04.04 release BayesIt 0.4gm worked quite fine here, with a score level of 40. Starting with 2.04.04, BayesIt 0.4gm SE hardly catches spam anymore. It has been trained with something like 3000 spam messages, which should be enough I think. I lowered the score level to 20, without improvement so far. I'll try your suggested level of 1 for a while. Also, since 2.04.04, BayesIt is creating files in %SystemDrive%\ (here D:\) and %Homedrive%%HomePath% (here Z:\), not in any temp-directory. Was it wise to pack BayesIt 0.4gm SE with TB! on such short notice? Well, there have been discussions on TBBETA . . . -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.04.7 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Split-mode toggle
Thomas Fernandez wrote: TB will take care of that. It won't allow you to define a shortcut that has already been assigned. Not true for 1.62r. That's why there is a conflict button and a different color when the shortcut is assigned elsewhere. I actually prefer this approach and hope it continues in v2 (haven't checked yet). If I want to assign Ctrl+F9 to something - I want to be able to assign it and go change the conflict afterward. If TB would not allow me to set the shortcut until I changed the conflicting one, it's just an extra step to me. I guess it's just a matter of fixing the conflict first or fixing it after the new assignment. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:48 PM, you wrote: E I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but E the search mechanism works fine (through single or multiple E folders). rg I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered rg differently... My earlier version wanted rgchickensoup searched using that method, found 18 messages rg but the newer version works with rg chicken soup searched using this method found 17 messages... -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jan2004 (4.1.342) (avast! version number) 0402-1 (24.02.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.342 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard
Martin Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 23-Feb-2004 11:54:34 PM Menu Navigator Keyboard mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, for me not. And second for me is flickering when it is switched on. Probably has to do that my laptop is not the fastest (600 MHz) but for mailing it is quite okay. I guess the weak processor plus Win XP makes the item flickering. Nope. I've got a 1.6 GHz machine and it still flickers. It was fixed before, but it seems to have returned. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Today's Oxymoron: Found missing Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not store message
Hello Martin, on Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:36:20 PM, Martin Schneider wrote: !21.02.2004, 22:00:21: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOKUME~1\Martin\LOKALE~1\Temp\bat1C90.tmp) So I was investigating a little bit more and found the reason for the problem. Of course you all could be right that a virus scanner is blocking the mail. However my virusscanner (BitDefender) is not blocking the file as it would filter out the virus already while writing to the TMP-file. (It filters out the virus before arriving to the Mail-Program by interfering the stream. On slow connections it can happen that The Bat announces a timeout as it doesn't retrive the stream as it have to be fully downloaded inside of the virusscanner berfore passing it to The Bat). The reason for the error message was that the mail contained no real mail data as it was created by the mailprovider (e.g. sender, subject and recipient was missing). And The Bat didn't know how to handle the incorrect mail. So the consequence was that error. Maybe Stefan and Co. could make a check if the mail contains real maildata. In case not to report that mail as corrupt or whatever. -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.04.4 on Windows XP Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Crash on Search in 2.04.4
ST Hello Mark, ST Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:23:46 PM, you wrote: ST You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7 ST solves the problem with moving to 2.04 from versions earlier than ST 2.02. Super duper! Works fine now. Great to have such responsive programmers (and TBUDL fellows). -- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows : Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600 Bat Version 2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
rg I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered rg differently... My earlier version wanted rgchickensoup PC searched using that method, found 18 messages rg but the newer version works with rg chicken soup PC searched using this method found 17 messages... Brings up more questions than it answered for me! -- Rich Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 24-Feb-2004 4:10:15 PM Crash on Search in 2.04.4 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] chickensoup searched using that method, found 18 messages but the newer version works with chicken soup searched using this method found 17 messages... The second one is probably searching for chicken AND soup. Notice the spaces. The first one is just looking for the words. So, the second one did not find the message containing Make fresh soup: Add chicken. while the first one did. NB: This is all speculation. I haven't tested a thing! -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Everything can be filed under miscellaneous. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Hello rich, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 20:30:17 -0500 you wrote: rg I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered rg differently... My earlier version wanted rgchickensoup PC searched using that method, found 18 messages rg but the newer version works with rg chicken soup PC searched using this method found 17 messages... Brings up more questions than it answered for me! Of course. To confuse even more, sometimes I see less messages in the result list than are counted as result in the statusline. If I press Alt-0/Alt-1 they come up. Very bad, too. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:45 PM, you wrote: chickensoup searched using that method, found 18 messages but the newer version works with chicken soup searched using this method found 17 messages... C The second one is probably searching for chicken AND soup. C Notice the spaces. The first one is just looking for the words. C So, the second one did not find the message containing Make fresh C soup: Add chicken. while the first one did. I was just pointing out that both methods worked. The original email seemed to imply that something changed, and the search didn't work like it used to. it may not, but I think both methods work somewhat, if not exactly the same. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jan2004 (4.1.342) (avast! version number) 0402-1 (24.02.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.342 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:30 PM, you wrote: rgchickensoup PC searched using that method, found 18 messages rg but the newer version works with rg chicken soup PC searched using this method found 17 messages... rg Brings up more questions than it answered for me! the answer is simple:) keep the searches to one word;0) I've never really tried a complex search on an email. You want complex, I'll show you some INFORMIX report queriesG -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jan2004 (4.1.342) (avast! version number) 0402-1 (24.02.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.342 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP: filtering doesn't work
Hello Batmans! I'm wondering, does anybody uses IMAP ? My problem is that all incoming filtering works just after manually starting via menu item Refilter messages. BUT Outgoing filtering works correcly. Any ideaz would be appreciable! Your sincerely registered, Sasha. Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One account for home and work
Hello Allie, 21.02.2004, U wrote: With IMAP that problem doesn't exist. I fire up ThunderBird at work and see all folders with messages read and unread just as they are with TB! at home. Alie! Have U seen normal filtering of Incoming mail of IMAP account ?!! It seems doesn't work for me :(( It perfectly works with POP3 as it's well known, it works for Outgoing mail of IMAP but DOESN't for Incoming mail of IMAP account : Regards, AG Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: filtering doesn't work
Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote: AAG I'm wondering, does anybody uses IMAP ? My problem is that all AAG incoming filtering works just after manually starting via menu AAG item Refilter messages. Autofiltering of Inbox mail hasn't been implemented yet. It's planned for the next release. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using SB! Lite v2.04.5 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: filtering doesn't work
Hello Allie, 25.02.2004, U wrote: AAG I'm wondering, does anybody uses IMAP ? My problem is that all AAG incoming filtering works just after manually starting via menu AAG item Refilter messages. Autofiltering of Inbox mail hasn't been implemented yet. It's planned for the next release. Wow! Cool features! :))) Just read on thebat forum about IMAP realization problem... Now i'm in depression... :))) By the way, would You clarify, why, even after registration and logging in a can't post new message there ? Regards, AG Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wish: Virtual folders - a nice way to save, repeat and view Message Finder searches
Hello all, I am sure we all more or less often repeat certain certain searches for messages in several (or all) folders, like find all messages in a Colour Group, From/To someone, with certain keywords in subject, etc., etc. So, I was going to make a feature request to be able to save Message Finder settings, not just the string history but the Options and Advanced tabs settings to be able to easily reproduce the search when needed. What if we could define a special kind of Global Folders, let's call them Virtual Folders, that their Properties had only the General and Memo tabs PLUS the Options and Advances tabs of Message Finder? We could then run a search and see the results on the main window with messages listed on the list pane and viewed in the preview pane. Ideal for me! A Virtual Folder defined this way does not need templates of any kind, just like the Results tab of the Message Finder. Ideally, all Virtual Folders would update automatically every time new messages are received, or moved or deleted. But I understand that could quite cumbersome and time consuming with large message bases. So, an option to Refresh all, or just an option to refresh (from context menu) when the folder is selected would be good enough I think. Obviously, each virtual folder must have its corresponding folder in the Mail path, so that pointers to the messages result of a search can be saved and restored when TB is started. I don't know how useful will others think this would be. I know it would be very useful for me. And heck! It should not be so difficult to implement, most of the needed code is already there for the Message Finder. If you like this idea and would like to support it, please go to: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002598 Thanks -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html