Re: Cannot display Inbox messages
Hallo Al, On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:36:44 -0700GMT (29-6-2004, 7:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ This just started tonight. All of a sudden I cannot display any of the AJ Inbox messages in the message auto view window. When I click on the AJ Inbox folder, the other two windows are empty. The Inbox contains AJ 1,134 messages as shown in the account tree window. AJ try to compress the database it hangs and I need to use ctrl-alt-del AJ to exit it. It looks like your inbox is rather big. Might be due to lack of compressing, you ought to realize that in order to compress a folder you as much free space as the folder uses before compression. First we need to get you up and running, try this: Create a new folder in TB Close TB Move the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files from your inbox to the ne created folder. Start TB Since there's no messagebase in the inbox, TB will create a new messages.tbb and .tbi Configure TB to compress the inbox on exit. Before we start to salvage the messages from the original inbox, how big is it? When did you do your last purge and compress, when your last scandisk or defrag? How many free space have you got on your harddisk and how many bat*.tmp and other files in your temporary files directory? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat migration problems
Hi, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 1:26:58 AM, it was written: Scott Finally, instead of going to the top message in a group, thebat takes me to somewhere else -- for some folders it's the last message, for some it's somewhere in the middle. Is there a way to reset this? I have poked around the options a lot and not found it. Allie TB! takes you to the last message you were viewing in the folder A before you moved to another message. Currently there are no options to A make you always go to a set location in the folder upon selecting it. But, Allie, doesn't this depend on how he's doing his sorting by column? If he's got the 'sort by name' clicked then a new message could appear further down the list? -- Regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat migration problems
Hello Maggie, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 6:52:47 AM, you wrote: M Hi, M Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 1:26:58 AM, it was written: Scott Finally, instead of going to the top message in a group, thebat takes me to somewhere else -- for some folders it's the last message, for some it's somewhere in the middle. Is there a way to reset this? I have poked around the options a lot and not found it. Allie TB! takes you to the last message you were viewing in the folder A before you moved to another message. Currently there are no options to A make you always go to a set location in the folder upon selecting it. M But, Allie, doesn't this depend on how he's doing his sorting by M column? If he's got the 'sort by name' clicked then a new message M could appear further down the list? For now it's OK -- fortunately, I still have the old .MSG files available from pmmail, so I can delete the offending ones (fortunately) and re-import them. That still leaves a rather cumbersome process for when this happens in the future, though. Sigh. I *really* wish TB! would just do the import process properly -- reset the time and date on the converted file to match what it was before the import. It's not hard code to write, so I think there's no good reason not to do so. regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat migration problems
Scott Garfinkle wrote: For now it's OK -- fortunately, I still have the old .MSG files available from pmmail, so I can delete the offending ones (fortunately) and re-import them. That still leaves a rather cumbersome process for when this happens in the future, though. Sigh. I *really* wish TB! would just do the import process properly -- reset the time and date on the converted file to match what it was before the import. It's not hard code to write, so I think there's no good reason not to do so. Received times are not in the messages that you import. However, creation times are there. How is TB! supposed to know what times the messages were received by PMMail when this information isn't in messages upon export. You'd need to sort on the message creation times and not received time, since the received times for imported messages would be the time the messages were imported. Maybe I'm not understanding you. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpRDlKfoaKak.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternative filters
I was just experimenting a bit, and I am not certain I follow how to interpret the Alternatives tab in the Sorting Office. If I set a filter string which must be found in matching messages, and several other strings either one of which also should be in matched messages, how is it that you may set that up? For some reason how I was trying this, all messages are filtered by the rule and moved. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Leif Gregory wrote: Well, I searched high and low and just couldn't find a trout worthy of the moderators, so I decided to make one myself. I promised Martin the first Moderator Trout Smiley whether he deserved it or not, snip So here you go Martin You are the first to be trouted with the Moderator Trout. Smell the love! grin Okay, it's been puzzling me for ages and I've now I've got to ask ... Why call such moderator messages a 'trout'? I've looked on the Web and the list guidelines without any nibbles. Please give chapter and verse -- you never know, I might quote you in my PhD thesis, and then Martin and you will *really* be situated firmly in the historical archives AND the body of knowledge. :-) Best wishes, Iain. -- Iain Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Adam wrote: I was just experimenting a bit, and I am not certain I follow how to interpret the Alternatives tab in the Sorting Office. This allows you to set OR strings to filter on. So the filter will execute if there's a match with the first defined string *OR* any strings defined in the Alternatives tab. If I set a filter string which must be found in matching messages, and several other strings either one of which also should be in matched messages, how is it that you may set that up? For some reason how I was trying this, all messages are filtered by the rule and moved. Ok. You need to do the following: Under the Rules Tab, define the string which must always match. Click the Add button and define one of the other strings that should also match. So that's one condition you've defined, i.e., that a match occurs if those two strings are present. Go to the Alternatives tab. Click the Add button and again define the string that must always match. Now hit Alt-insert. (Do not hit the Add button again for this) This will create an AND condition string field for the Alternative condition. In that field, add another of the other strings that should also match. Now hit the Add button to create a new Alternative condition and repeat the steps of the above paragraph. Repeat this process until all conditions are included. So in effect you're saying, Filter if: String1 AND String 2 are present OR if String1 and String3 are present OR if String1 and String4 are present OR if String1 and String5 are present etc. Hope that helps. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgprq3aKBm6YA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 11:34:55 AM, Allie Martin wrote: If I set a filter string which must be found in matching messages, and several other strings either one of which also should be in matched messages, how is it that you may set that up? For some reason how I was trying this, all messages are filtered by the rule and moved. AM Ok. You need to do the following: AM Under the Rules Tab, define the string which must always match. AM Click the Add button and define one of the other strings that should AM also match. This works very well. But, say I don't click the Add button here to add the second string. How does it think about the filter? It seems to let most everything through. The first required string is there in most cases. Like, if I call the first string _required_ to put on the Rule tab and I number the alternate possible strings, string1, and string2, say, then how does it make a conclusion in any case, or when neither string1 nor string2 is present? You already answered this. But if you say OR between the two Tabs on the window, its feels odd. It is another logic than just: string1 OR string2. And I did get that when I added two strings in just the main Rule tab. Like: _required_ string1 | string2 But then the alternates don't create a list, one below the other. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Adam wrote: AM Under the Rules Tab, define the string which must always match. AM Click the Add button and define one of the other strings that should AM also match. This works very well. But, say I don't click the Add button here to add the second string. How does it think about the filter? Then there will be no AND condition created. Clicking the Add button on the rules tab, creates an AND string match condition, i.e., Condition 1 AND Condition 2 must be met for a match. It seems to let most everything through. The first required string is there in most cases. If all you do is define the first string, then all messages with the first string will be caught, irrespective of any other strings being present or not. Like, if I call the first string _required_ to put on the Rule tab and I number the alternate possible strings, string1, and string2, say, then how does it make a conclusion in any case, or when neither string1 nor string2 is present? All you're doing when you do this is saying, a match occurs if: String 1 is present OR if String 2 is present You already answered this. But if you say OR between the two Tabs on the window, its feels odd. Why? ;) It is another logic than just: string1 OR string2. It's the same logic actually. And I did get that when I added two strings in just the main Rule tab. Like: _required_ string1 | string2 This is another way to create the same logic, i.e., defining both strings as a single condition using '|'. String1|String2 under the rules tab is the same as String1 under the rules tab and String two under the alternatives tab. The Alternatives Tab makes what you actually want to do possible. I don't see how it can be achieved without an alternatives tab. I guess the confusion rests with being able to achieve an OR match in different ways? But then the alternates don't create a list, one below the other. It can. The system is setup to make you able to match just about anything. However, in so doing, it also allows you to achieve some matching in different ways. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/5 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpAYuYheOUoN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access violation at address 10023CD6 in module 'bayesit.tbp'. Write of address 00000008
Since a crash of TB this morning after a long time waiting of a mail (probably the responsible of my problems), I have this error message when I want to mark a Mail as Junk : Access violation at address 10023CD6 in module 'bayesit.tbp'. Write of address 0008 I have tried to uninstall bayesit, and reinstall, same thing for TB, but I have now always the same message ! What can I do to re enable bayesit ? Thanks -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.11.02 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread folder
Hello Paul, On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:21:23 -0400 GMT (29/06/2004, 00:21 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC I think we solved that problem. Good to hear. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 38 Prozent aller Studentinnen sind weiblich. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread folder
Hello Maggie, On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:36:19 -0400 GMT (29/06/2004, 00:36 +0700 GMT), Maggie wrote: M Right, sorry for not being clear. That's OK, since the problem has been solved. M So far, the virtual folders have not given me any problems at all. But me. But nothing serious. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't kill flies, but I like to mess with their minds. I hold them above globes. They freak out and yell, Whooa, I'm way too high. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hello Leif, On 29 June 2004, 17:00 -0600 (29/06/200400:00 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG Well, I searched high and low and just couldn't find a trout worthy LG of the moderators, so I decided to make one myself. You went the extra mile for me? That shows dedication... :-D LG I promised Martin the first Moderator Trout Smiley whether he deserved LG it or not, although I'm sure he's done something bad recently so it's LG probably all good. ...okay, I'm ready... B-) LG So here you go Martin You are the first to be trouted with the LG Moderator Trout. Smell the love! grin omg ... LG moderator LG :trout: Whack! :'( =] :vomit: LG Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have LG instigated this reply. You *should* definitely feel singled out LG Martin. Thank you... I feel better now! ,:-) LG This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this LG on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain LG threading.) I couldn't let TBUDL and TBBETA miss out could I? :-) -- Best regards, M :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D Quote of the day: We don't see things as the are but rather as we are. ANAÏS NIN Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello Greg, Sunday, June 27, 2004, 1:08:30 AM, you wrote: snip GS All they have to do when subject is changed in a reply is the GS following: 1 change subject GS 2 select View | Follow-up GS 3 delete message id GS Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new GS thread. Common courtesy I think. GS Just like I've done with this message. I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no Follow-up menu selection. Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!, V 2.0. Might that be the reason? Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hello Iain, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:46:08 AM, you wrote: Iain Okay, it's been puzzling me for ages and I've now I've got to ask Iain ... Why call such moderator messages a 'trout'? IIRC it started on FIDONet as The moderator / SYSOP slaps *SOME NAME* with a trout! as a means of lighthearted punishment. I haven't been able to definitively locate a resource that explains where the trout originated, but I used it on my BBS when I ran a BBS in the Albuquerque, NM area. Lesse, that was in 1985 to 1990. I know I didn't coin the trout (meaning I didn't come up with it), but I do definitely remember using it on my BBS after I had seen it somewhere else. I carried that over nearly ten years later to the TB lists where the trout has become the... Oh lesse, I guess you could say it's the official list mascot! grin The earliest reference to someone being trouted was from Sep 1994, and I'm speculating (just a guess really), that the trout slap probably originated on a BBS dealing with fishing. However, I have found no proof of that. Iain Please give chapter and verse -- you never know, I might quote Iain you in my PhD thesis, and then Martin and you will *really* be Iain situated firmly in the historical archives AND the body of Iain knowledge. :-) Heheh.. 15 minutes of fame.. grin -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Cat (kat') n. 1. A dog with an attitude problem. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 1:26:20 PM, you wrote: You already answered this. But if you say OR between the two Tabs on the window, its feels odd. AM Why? ;) Some differing expectation. Hard to define expectations. And most of the tabs are options. Like extra parameters. But then the alternates don't create a list, one below the other. AM It can. By that, I mean string1 string2 string3 But as I understand now, that will forget about the _required_ string, if I just place it one place. TB would probably expect to find all of the strings at the same time. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The fun of losing an email folder and ... its subfolders ...
Howdy tbud'ers, Please forgive me if I'm a wee bit unclear as I'm never 100% sure of the correct terminology that applies to The Bat! I lost an email folder (that had a number of sub-folders containing email messages). I noticed it the other day that I somehow, through my magic keystrokes of Shift-Ctrl-Left arrow, managed to move the email folder over and out ... meaning all the way out so that it stood by itself outside of its original account folder, if you will. Anyway, I made a mental note of this at the time to move it back where it should belong with Shift-Ctrl-Right arrow, but ... as we older folks tend to do ... forgot to do so and closed The Bat! application program later that night. The next morning I fired up The Bat! ... and lo-and-behold, this email folder and its sub-folders weren't displayed by The Bat! application program and I'm thinking X-rated thoughts ... Oh No! *^%$!# Never one to panic, I start poking around and managed to find the missing folder (and subfolders) under the hood of Windows 98SE file system ... located at D:\thebatMAIL. I reasoned that I could move (drag) the email folder, security-basics, into the account where it originally was located within the displayed The Bat! section ... where the accounts and subfolders are displayed. Sure enough the top-level email folder was displayed by The Bat! and I was able to move it (using the infamous Shift-Ctrl-L or R arrows) into its alphabetical order. BUT, the subfolders didn't come along and weren't displayed as I anticipated. So I dragged them over individually, again at the Windows 98SE level, into the specific account where they originally were located, BUT, again they were not displayed by The Bat!Even doing maintenance and repair once the emails folders were properly located have not done the trick. Any ideas how I can moved/drag these subfolders and get them positioned within the proper hierarchy to be displayed by The Bat!? I still have the subfolders. The Bat! version is V2.0. Obviously I'm missing something. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The fun of losing an email folder and ... its subfolders ...
Hello subscriber2list, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 12:54:19 PM, you wrote: subscriber2list Any ideas how I can moved/drag these subfolders and subscriber2list get them positioned within the proper hierarchy to be subscriber2list displayed by The Bat!? I still have the subfolders. subscriber2list The Bat! version is V2.0. Obviously I'm missing subscriber2list something. Hold down CTRL-ALT, click and hold on the folder to move, drag and drop it on the folder you want to make it a subfolder of. Hold down ALT, click and hold on the folder to move, drag and drop it in the order you want it. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Score: Deep Space 9, Babylon 5, Earth 2, and Voyager 70,000. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello subscriber2list, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:19:01 PM, you wrote: GS Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new GS thread. Common courtesy I think. GS Just like I've done with this message. s I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated s and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no s Follow-up menu selection. Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!, s V 2.0. Might that be the reason? Don't think so. You just have to start a Reply first. That should help. You should find it there somewhere on the menu. As for 3, as soon as you click on the new field displayed, all text there should be highlighted. If it gets unhighlighted, you can highlight all again with the keyboard by cursoring down and up between the fields. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hello Leif, On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:54:02 -0600 GMT (30/06/2004, 00:54 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: Iain Okay, it's been puzzling me for ages and I've now I've got to ask Iain ... Why call such moderator messages a 'trout'? LG IIRC it started on FIDONet as The moderator / SYSOP slaps *SOME NAME* LG with a trout! as a means of lighthearted punishment. I haven't been LG able to definitively locate a resource that explains where the trout LG originated, Do you know Asterix Obelix? The fish seller, called Verleihnix in German (don't know the English name) slaps people with one of his dead fish when he gets angry. Those fish apparently are trouts. The joke is older than Fidonet or any BBS. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer mit seinem Latein am Ende ist, sollte eine andere Sprache lernen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 1:22:02 PM, you wrote: Thomas Do you know Asterix Obelix? The fish seller, called Thomas Verleihnix in German (don't know the English name) slaps Thomas people with one of his dead fish when he gets angry. Those Thomas fish apparently are trouts. The joke is older than Fidonet or Thomas any BBS. Yeah, I do remember us talking about this a while back. While I don't disagree that this might have been the origin, I'm just wondering whether that really was the origin. It's as good a guess as mine about a Trout BBS. grin Kinda like the Altavista Babelfish. Tower of Babel or Babelfish from :h2g2: or like a chain, Tower of Babel, Douglas Adams gets it from there, then Altavista gets Babelfish from Douglas Adams. Who knows? Taken to TBOT. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: I had a life once.. now I have a computer and an internet connection. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to get rid of splash screen
For some of us, Windows is not the main OS and as such run it is run on slow computers. Is there a way to get rid of the splash screen? It blocks the screen for 20 seconds. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of splash screen
Hello Charles, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 2:14:44 PM, you wrote: Charles For some of us, Windows is not the main OS and as such run it Charles is run on slow computers. Is there a way to get rid of the Charles splash screen? It blocks the screen for 20 seconds. Set your shortcut to do this: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /NOLOGO -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Stipulation #1: There will be no stipulations. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
finding unread messages in a partial read thread
Hey tbudl, Is there a way to distinguish actually unread messages from read messages in a partial read thread ? As it is now all messages down to the new unread message is marked with bold and that makes it quite hard to find the new messages... Any ideas ? -- Best regards, Max Rydahl Andersen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of splash screen
Hello Charles, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 10:14:44 PM, you wrote: For some of us, Windows is not the main OS and as such run it is run on slow computers. Is there a way to get rid of the splash screen? It blocks the screen for 20 seconds. 1) Open the properties of the shortcut (desktop icon or start menu entry, etc.) you use to call TB. 2) Add /nologo behind the path to thebat.exe in the 'Target' field. (That field might then look likte this: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo) 3) From now onwards, when you use this short cut, the slash screen will not annoy you any more. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcuts on Bat2.0
With TB! 1.x, I was able to change the block selection type from columnar to linear to stream. It stopped working with TB! 2. Are there new short cuts or is it gone? Thanks. -- Best regards, Peter Using The Bat! version 2.11.02 (www.ritlabs.com) on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts on Bat2.0
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 2:34:44 PM, you wrote: Peter With TB! 1.x, I was able to change the block selection type Peter from columnar to linear to stream. It stopped working with TB! Peter 2. Are there new short cuts or is it gone? Thanks. Dunno about the shortcuts, but holding down the following keys while selecting with the mouse works: ALT Columnar SHFT Stream CTRL Linear -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Sir, you have a collective call from Borg, will you accept the charges? Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: finding unread messages in a partial read thread
Hi Max, on Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:25:49 +0200GMT, you wrote: MRA Is there a way to distinguish actually unread messages from read MRA messages in a partial read thread ? You can select to show Flagging in Setup columns. Then you can distinguish unread messages in a partially read thread by the envelope icon. -- Cheers Peter THE GOLDEN RULE: He who has the gold makes the rules. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: finding unread messages in a partial read thread
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Max, On 29 June 2004, 22:25 +0200 (21:25 local time) Max Rydahl Andersen [MRA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MRA Is there a way to distinguish actually unread messages from read MRA messages in a partial read thread ? MRA As it is now all messages down to the new unread message is marked MRA with bold and that makes it quite hard to find the new messages... MRA Any ideas ? You can move to the next unread message using CtrlRight arrow or alternatively expand the thread using Ctrl+... If there is an unread message in a thread all messages in that branch will appear bold. However, you can distinguish them from read messages by the unopened envelope (message flags). - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQOHURzknq5PWREYNEQJycwCggxvnFDfZrxJ0I+k+Kxy7vbQu/toAoPni SA+R9DUfyA50JNEL2S1c/zfd =ciSE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shortcuts on Bat2.0
Ok your method work. The the old shorts still work too but just not on HTML formated documents... -Peter Historians believe that 1:39 PM, Tuesday, June 29, 2004 was when Leif Gregory typed the following in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG Hello Peter, LG Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 2:34:44 PM, you wrote: Peter With TB! 1.x, I was able to change the block selection type Peter from columnar to linear to stream. It stopped working with TB! Peter 2. Are there new short cuts or is it gone? Thanks. LG Dunno about the shortcuts, but holding down the following keys while LG selecting with the mouse works: LG ALT Columnar LG SHFT Stream LG CTRL Linear -- Using The Bat! version 2.11.02 (www.ritlabs.com) on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcuts on Bat2.0
Hello Peter, You wrote on 2004.06.29., 22:34: With TB! 1.x, I was able to change the block selection type from columnar to linear to stream. It stopped working with TB! 2. Are there new short cuts or is it gone? Thanks. Switch block type to stream (default) Ctrl+O K Switch block type to column Ctrl+O C Switch block type to linear Ctrl+O L It's in the Help file, under block commands... Cheers, SyP -- When in doubt, print 'em out. (Karl's Programming Proverb 0x7) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: finding unread messages in a partial read thread
Hej Martin, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 10:42:42 PM, skrev du: MW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MW Hash: SHA1 MW Hello Max, MW On 29 June 2004, 22:25 +0200 (21:25 local time) Max Rydahl Andersen MW [MRA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MRA Is there a way to distinguish actually unread messages from read MRA messages in a partial read thread ? MRA As it is now all messages down to the new unread message is marked MRA with bold and that makes it quite hard to find the new messages... MRA Any ideas ? MW You can move to the next unread message using CtrlRight arrow or MW alternatively expand the thread using Ctrl+... MW If there is an unread message in a thread all messages in that branch MW will appear bold. However, you can distinguish them from read messages MW by the unopened envelope (message flags). thanx - that works fine...still would like the boldness to be italic or lesser black...but that I guess is just wishes for now ;) -- Med venlig hilsen, Max Rydahl Andersen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ACURE A/S Celluar: 51 56 10 14 Office: 39 11 80 27 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Shortcuts on Bat2.0)
Historians believe that 2:04 PM, Tuesday, June 29, 2004 was when Leif Gregory typed the following in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to LG which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, LG and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're LG responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each LG part separately and follow each part with your response. Copy that. I'll try to remember in the future. Thanks. -- Using The Bat! version 2.11.02 (www.ritlabs.com) on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to get rid of splash screen
Hi Leif On Tuesday, June 29, 2004 14:17 your local time, which was 21:17 my local time, Leif Gregory [LG] wrote; Charles For some of us, Windows is not the main OS and as such run it Charles is run on slow computers. Is there a way to get rid of the Charles splash screen? It blocks the screen for 20 seconds. LG Set your shortcut to do this: LG C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /NOLOGO Good tip! Now I'm not sure if it's psychological, but TB! seems to load faster now!? :-/ -- Cheers, Chris In this case, I'm using IMAP with The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Shortcuts on Bat2.0)
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:37:35 PM, you wrote: Peter Copy that. I'll try to remember in the future. Thanks. np.. That's what we're here for! :grin: -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Suicide is like telling life: You can't fire me, I quit! Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Common courtesy on threading!
Thanks Adam for your reply. Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:23:45 PM, you wrote: s I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated s and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no s Follow-up menu selection. Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!, s V 2.0. Might that be the reason? A Don't think so. You just have to start a Reply first. I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject field to read This is only a test Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no Follow-up menu selection was offered. Oh well ... not a biggy to me as I can always just create a new message with new subject field content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT. A That should help. You should find it there somewhere on the menu. A As for 3, as soon as you click on the new field displayed, all text A there should be highlighted. If it gets unhighlighted, you can A highlight all again with the keyboard by cursoring down and up between A the fields. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Shortcuts on Bat2.0
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 4:50:06 PM, you wrote: Peter Ok your method work. The the old shorts still work too but just not on Peter HTML formated documents... When you have a message opened, you can right click for a menu. It's toward the bottom under Block Type. LG Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 2:34:44 PM, you wrote: Peter With TB! 1.x, I was able to change the block selection type Peter from columnar to linear to stream. It stopped working with TB! Peter 2. Are there new short cuts or is it gone? Thanks. LG Dunno about the shortcuts, but holding down the following keys while LG selecting with the mouse works: LG ALT Columnar LG SHFT Stream LG CTRL Linear -- Cheers, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of splash screen
Hello Leif, On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:17:46 -0600 UTC, Leif Gregory wrote: LG C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /NOLOGO Yes :) -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: finding unread messages in a partial read thread
Hello Max, On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:00:06 +0200 UTC, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: MRA thanx - that works fine...still would like the boldness to be italic MRA or lesser black...but that I guess is just wishes for now ;) Yes. It is the main reason I don't use the threaded view. Such a shame, and it has no function (being bold). -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot display Inbox messages
OK Roelof, thanks for the help. I tried your suggestions. Here's the result. I created a new folder, exited TB and moved the .tbb and tbi files to the new folder. Restarted TB. I am now in the process of fetching the new mail. It is running very, very slow. It seems to be sorting the new files into the proper folders. I will report back on progress. Now how do I recover the files in the old Inbox? Earlier today I got an error message after fetching new mail. Could not store message/filename C:\DOCUM~1\Owner\LOCALS~\Temp\batDC.tmp I looked in that location and found over 600 bat*.tmp files. I deleted all of them plus some other tmp files I found as well. I tried to manually compress the Inbox but the program hung up. When I try to exit the program it also hangs. All other accounts work fine. -- Al Jacobus Using TheBat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
