Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?
Spam, [S] wrote: I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder. When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders. There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP filtering behaves at the moment. You could check to see if your ISP offers a webmail access to your account and if so, check if you can filter from there. In this way you could do some of the filtering at the server level. Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it comes to auto-filtering. Seriously, this would seem to be a severe flaw in The Bat! The whole idea with filtering is its automation instead of have to do things manually. Is this going to change anytime soon? It's not like The Bat! doesn't receive messages. It does, and it tells me I have new messages too. -- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
On 29-9-2004, 7:06, Michael L. Wilson wrote: MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do MLW others think? Never used K9. I have used SpamPal for quite some time now. After a while, when the Bayesian plugin has learned enough, it becomes almost flawless. And if you don't like bayesian filtering, you can always choose not to use it and rely on its blacklist system, regular expression filtering (plugin), URL filtering (plugin), etc. etc. But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin. But it does not exist... :-( -- Best regards, Sander van den Berg :nlflag: The Bat! v3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:06:27 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 7:06 +0100, where I live), Michael L. Wilson wrote: I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? I am working with Poptray 3.03 and Spampal 1.581 for almost a year and pleased with both. Getting messages from the server is going pretty quick. -- cheers, Henk __ :tbflag: The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://gswot.webhop.info/ pgpNOirzdhfaz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?
Hi Allie, On Tuesday, September 28, 2004 19:44 your local time, which was Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 01:44 my local time, Allie Martin [AM] wrote; AM There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP AM filtering behaves at the moment. 8 Snipped a bit 8 AM Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it comes to AM auto-filtering. I have to agree, the filtering in IMAP is very poor at the moment. You end up clicking on various folders chasing the filtered messages around. :-( -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hi Michael, On Tuesday, September 28, 2004 22:06 your local time, which was Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 06:06 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do MLW others think? I used SpamPal for just over a month and it worked very well. I ended up moving to Bayes Filter for a couple of reasons; 1. When connecting with TLS and SpamPal, I also needed Stunnel 2. I wanted an all in one solution, and running TB!, SpamPal and Stunnel wasn't really convienient. 3. I was having IMAP timeout issues Other than that, it was a very effective program and pretty fast. Although having said that, I'm more than happy with Bayes Filter since I've made the move and especially since using the DNS list's similar to SpamPal. Stats so far; HamMails: 5530 SpamMails: 1732 Detected Ham: 5014 (99.9%) Detected Spam: 871 (99.3%) FALSE Ham detected: 6 FALSE Spam detected: 2 I hope that helps. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [28.9.2004, 11:38:32 PM]: But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method, I've made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder with my email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and today it isn't working... :) BTW, what's the purpose of Source folder in filter conditions? DG A selectable Source folder allows messages, that already have been DG filtered and moved to any folder, to be filtered again by a Replied DG filter or a Read filter. The Replied or Read filtering becomes more DG efficient (faster), because only messages that already have been DG recognized by other filters will be filtered again. Thanks. BTW, is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as described (in Read messages). It works only when I start it manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter is to mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra conditins). -- ... Life: a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate. Nikola Knezevic [homepage: http://users.hemo.net/indy] [jabberID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Michael, I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? Try POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), It has been running for me with 99.82% accuracy for over one year. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Michael, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:06:27 AM, you wrote: MLW Hi, MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do MLW others think? Been using K9 for a year now. Never used SpamPal. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Sander, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 8:30:55 AM, you wrote: SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin. SvdB But it does not exist... :-( SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years back. Have a google on it... -- Nick Back to TheBat!: v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SpamPal or K9?
On 29-9-2004, 10:25, Nick Dutton wrote: ND Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 8:30:55 AM, you wrote: SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin. SvdB But it does not exist... :-( ND ND SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years ND back. ND ND Have a google on it... I know, I had it running too (it was called Pop3Proxy). But it didn't use all the extensions like a full installation of SpamAssassin on a unix system. Therefore, it was not as effective as it should be. Onetime, there was a free program called SAproxy, but a while ago it has gone commercial: http://www.statalabs.com/products/saproxy/ -- Best regards, Sander van den Berg :nlflag: The Bat! v3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fed up with BayesIt
Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Sander, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:43:53 AM, you wrote: SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin. SvdB But it does not exist... :-( ND SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years ND back. SvdB I know, I had it running too (it was called Pop3Proxy). But it SvdB didn't use all the extensions like a full installation of SvdB SpamAssassin on a unix system. I think that you're wrong. SpamAssassin *is* only perl. If you have perl on your PC then you can run the real deal. There are a few issues with pipelining etc and getting all the perl modules requires a bit of CPAN knowledge. Pop3Proxy and others were packaged products that took the pain out of getting perl/SA installed in Win32. Do that google - then get back to me... -- Nick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:06:27 AM, you wrote: MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do MLW others think? K9 is more better than SpamPal for me (near 100% accurancy) but you shuold try both and then choose better for you. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.0.0.19, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? M Try POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), It has been running for M me with 99.82% accuracy for over one year. For the record POPFile v0.22.0 has a much improved database and is noticeably quicker. http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=266476 -- Nick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fed up with BayesIt
Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... But are you checking more than six email accounts. I have had to give up because the only six at a time business means that various mailvoxes don't get checked when you've got more than six accoutns tocheck. I gather this is a Win thing partly and so I guess any proxying 127.0.0.1 system is going to have the same problem. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: All message deleted by filter !
==Original message text=== From: Mica Mijatovic To: WilWilWil Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:27:36 PM Subject: All message deleted by filter ! MM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MM Hash: SHA1 MM***^\ ._)~~ MM ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 28 Sep 2004, MM@ @ at 13:23:48 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: ==Original message text=== From: Mica Mijatovic To: WilWilWil Date: Monday, September 27, 2004, 3:03:26 PM Subject: All message deleted by filter ! That's the reason why I receive no maill from my friends since a week !!! MM A week is a lot for noticing this. Use Dispatcher, and you'll notice MM instantly (how the filters marked your mail). ===End of original message text=== A week is a not a lot . I didn't want to say that I was in front of my labtop during a week. I was in training all the week anf when I come back home, I was in trouble to not see any mail received this special week. MM Go to Account / Properties / Mail management / Mail Dispatcher, and then MM check: MM + Invoke automatically at each mail check MM + Show all messages left on the server MM MM Fortunately, all the mail which MM was deleted was recorded in LOG file [Ctrl+Shift+A], so I could see what MM was important in there and could ask the senders to send their letters MM again.) ===End of original message text=== Great ! You help me ! it's incredible. I can now test easily my filters with this Mail Dispatcher I didn't know, and MORE, you save me with log and CTRL+SHIFT+A I didn't known to ! You save me because I 've found in the log file all senders of mails during this week. You save me because there was an employer that I can contact now ! Thanks Thanks Thanks ! -- WilWilWil TB 3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to filter such a message?
Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown ([62.67.200.159]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST ..de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5765 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO 10.20.58.6) ([213.172.57.122]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:14 - Received: from 14.56.123.62 by ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: R[20-25 Subject: They do not have a subject and a sender. Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? What do I have to use for a blank subject? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:28:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 12:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Subject: TN They do not have a subject and a sender. TN Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? That's what I should do. TN What do I have to use for a blank subject? Header matches Subject:\s*\n Just a wild guess -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpuPo8LObjll.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Fed up with BayesIt
Hi admin, Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... aacu But are you checking more than six email accounts. I have had to give aacu up because the only six at a time business means that various aacu mailvoxes don't get checked when you've got more than six accoutns aacu tocheck. aacu I gather this is a Win thing partly and so I guess any proxying aacu 127.0.0.1 system is going to have the same problem. I use K9, which is basically the same a POPFile (localhost proxy). I check 8 accounts, no problem. 99.99% on 11,000 e-mails in 6 months, low resource use too. (under 1800k mem and CPU use is negligible when checking mail... no IMAP though...). -- Mike Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Full backup includes filters?
Just cehcking - if I do a full backup with everything everywhere ticked, doe the filters (account specific, and global) get backed up to and thus restored when necessary? It's just that it doesn't specifically say so in the backup selection process. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Full backup includes filters?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 13:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just cehcking - if I do a full backup with everything everywhere ticked, doe the filters (account specific, and global) get backed up to and thus restored when necessary? Yes. Just did the same today morning... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Full backup includes filters?
Hæ! doe the filters (account specific, and global) get backed up to and thus restored when necessary? Yes. Thank you -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be triggered by your example. Of course it would be triggered by something like this: Subject: Why do we use the header Subject: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpClbafUnwUW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to filter such a message?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:41:02 AM, you wrote: Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be triggered by your example. Of course it would be triggered by something like this: Subject: Why do we use the header Subject: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I know this is most likely not the best way to do this, but this filter worked for me... Sender contains none of @ AND Recipient contains none of @ AND Subject contains none of a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z This works OK... might be better to us a regular expression in the Subject to get all upper and lower case and special chars. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 13:41, Roelof Otten wrote: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I am glad those people are not my contacts... ;) Filter active... let's wait and see what happens... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bug! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copying filter to email - url encoding?
Hæ!
When I copy a filter to an email, I get this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [45398AB0.01C4A5F7.60AE2D5B.7DAA52CB]
Name: tbbeta
Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`2`Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5Caccountname\5CTB!\20Beta\20ML
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
Is it normal TB! uses the url encoding method?
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Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/
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Re: How to filter such a message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 12:28:22 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! How do I filter such messages? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown ([62.67.200.159]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST ..de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 5765 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 10:18:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO 10.20.58.6) ([213.172.57.122]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ..de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 29 Sep 2004 10:18:14 - Received: from 14.56.123.62 by ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: R[20-25 Subject: They do not have a subject and a sender. Should I filter on Header does not contain From:? What do I have to use for a blank subject? Interesting part is MID as well. I didn't find any regular MID starting with a letter after , since they start most usually (and perhaps always?) with a digit. The syntax R[ is also characteristic for spammers, and if you'd filter based on it, then you'll get rid of bunch of spam at once. A MID starting with a % is also characteristic. The latter example could be filtered simply, by a MID containing %, while the previous one, R[, would need some regexp. I GUESS (so it should be *checked*, since I am not so good with regexp) that in this case regexp would be in a form any_nondigit[, that is \D\[. Filtering against an empty subject would work also (probably as Roelof suggested) but rare are spam messages using it (and often friends leave this field blank too). - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 28 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWqVx9q62QPd3XuIRAkIDAKCDW3yTgmgxq3ToGdhal8XNtXab3wCgke0l Ib0p/Qy8Zsxp/E/QXeAe1FY= =uyPb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All message deleted by filter !
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 12:12:41 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: Great ! You help me ! it's incredible. I can now test easily my filters with this Mail Dispatcher I didn't know, and MORE, you save me with log and CTRL+SHIFT+A I didn't known to ! You save me because I 've found in the log file all senders of mails during this week. You save me because there was an employer that I can contact now ! Thanks Thanks Thanks ! My face is a mirror of your happiness. (-: I hope you'll find a fine job, soon. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 28 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWqdB9q62QPd3XuIRAknhAJ9lKDW5+4w7QzdNOtNy7yct2IxB/gCbBBkw 3+5M5O/OvjXmoJSbnV/j5q0= =O2zA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 14:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Message-ID: R[20-25 --- SNIP --- Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days. There was only one occurence in the last 130 spam mails... The latter example could be filtered simply, by a MID containing %, while the previous one, R[, would need some regexp. I GUESS (so it should be *checked*, since I am not so good with regexp) that in this case regexp would be in a form any_nondigit[, that is \D\[. I am not very experienced with RegExp either (I guess it is too abstract for my mind)... Filtering against an empty subject would work also (probably as Roelof suggested) but rare are spam messages using it (and often friends leave this field blank too). That's why I am wanting to filter against an empty subject AND the absence of a from address. Lately, some SPAM mails sneak by having no subject nor from address, and sometimes even no body. Normally my contacts at least use a FROM. ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hi, On Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 10:43:53 AM, Sander van den Berg wrote: Onetime, there was a free program called SAproxy, but a while ago it has gone commercial I used to use it but it was very very slow. Then I test K9 which was by far better and then BayesIt. Now, I use BayesFilter which works fine. -- Ludovic LE MOAL (Quimper - France) URL:http://www.lemoal.org/ ICQ# 92250692 Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Michael, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 1:06:27 AM, you wrote: I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? Most probable that it been taught badly. It doesn't meter which one program do you use, K9, POPFile, ... all of them have exactly the same logic. The big difference is how you teach your program. My suggestion, delete BayesIT database and teach it again, but do it carefully. 10-20 messages and 90% accuracy of filtering. A few hints, if you have subscribed to any mailing lists, don't mark messages as NOT Junk, put them in white list. White list and black list what you can and let the filter to deal with rest, works for 99.97% in a week. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filter to email - url encoding?
Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:19:52 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 14:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TN When I copy a filter to an email, I get this: TB! Message Filter TN Is it normal TB! uses the url encoding method? Yes, though I'd use this filter, but that's a matter of taste: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [572F4B80.01C4A623.1236FB25.3DC27FBE] Name: tbbeta Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Caccountname\5CTB!\20Beta\20ML IsContinue IsActive Ignore IsSendQueue endFilter -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpY16hoqH0fz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Richard, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 4:25:18 AM, you wrote: RW Gosh you did all that very quickly and efficiently. Very impressive 'cos RW it took me a couple of days to get PGP sorted out properly. I had many people helping and still have 4 messages on the subject parked, including yours with that long list of reading assignments. :) (One of the things I like in TB is the Park feature. The only programme I saw with a similar feature was Forte Agent newsreader). I had also googled a bit and read some stuff in several sites. My major problem was downloading the PGP programme file. I was constantly being redirected to an error page saying my computer was behind a firewall, etc. The programme itself is pretty easy and installed fast and smoothly. There is still something I'm curious about: when I click on the question mark and the signature is verified, it normally turns into a green check mark. With Mica's messages the question mark disappears and a file attachment appears saying OK - PGP Verified. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 pgpJtwQsPHOGM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Full backup includes filters?
Hi Thorvald Neumann - On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, at 13:23:58 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:23 AM where I live) you wrote: Just cehcking - if I do a full backup with everything everywhere ticked, doe the filters (account specific, and global) get backed up to and thus restored when necessary? Yes. Just did the same today morning... ;) Interesting. Doesn't work for me. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpeU2jejxmlo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Full backup includes filters?
Hello Kevin, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:50:43 AM, you wrote: Just did the same today morning... ;) Interesting. Doesn't work for me. Does not work for me either! -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0.0.19 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Full backup includes filters?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 16:50, Kevin Amazon wrote: Interesting. Doesn't work for me. That's strange. I did a backup today morning, because I had problems with automated message removal and decided to completely reinstall TB!. Tools/Backup, chosen all options and saved it to a new backup file. Completely uninstalled TB!, removed registry settings, new fresh install and applied the backup. All accounts, emails and filters are there. Otherwise it would have been a really bad surprise for me, I am heavily relying on my filters... -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.0.19 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Full backup includes filters?
Filter backing up Does not work for me either! Thorvald says it does work - he's using Win 2000 Those that say it doesn't are using Win XP. Connection? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message header widths
Given my problem with dragging header widths makes them disappear completely to 0 width... ...how can I adjust all folders at once? The View - Message Headers only operate on the currently displayed folder. I guess there's a default for new folders but what when I've got 158 folders and I want them all the same after they've all become different. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message header widths
Given my problem with dragging header widths makes them disappear completely to 0 width... ...how can I adjust all folders at once? The View - Message Headers only operate on the currently displayed folder. I meant View - Message List Columns (not Headers) I guess there's a default for new folders but what when I've got 158 folders and I want them all the same after they've all become different. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SpamPal or K9?
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? IL Most probable that it been taught badly. IL It doesn't meter which one program do you use, K9, POPFile, ... all of IL them have exactly the same logic. IL The big difference is how you teach your program. IL My suggestion, delete BayesIT database and teach it again, but do it IL carefully. 10-20 messages and 90% accuracy of filtering. IL A few hints, if you have subscribed to any mailing lists, don't mark IL messages as NOT Junk, put them in white list. IL White list and black list what you can and let the filter to deal IL with rest, works for 99.97% in a week. Michael, I dumped BayesIt yesterday afternoon and switched to K9. After three months of training BayesIt with thousands of spam and non-spam messages, it gave me about 10% accuracy. Half a day of K9, and I'm at 90.4% accuracy. It's not a training problem with BayesIt, in my opinion, it's the software. I've used SpamPal for several months on another computer and it does a very nice job. I don't recall it ever making a mistake. Although they work on different filtering principles, I think you'd be happy with either K9 or SpamPal. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 In a restaurant window: Don't stand there and be hungry, come in and get fed up. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message header widths
Dear Marten, @29-Sep-2004, 16:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip MG I guess there's a default for new folders but what when I've got 158 MG folders and I want them all the same after they've all become MG different. Explore the whole vast range of options available to you using View modes. You can select columns, set widths, threading, sort orders and apply them on mass to all, selected and tree branches of folders. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp3h6IJ8ElQM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 29 Sep 2004, @ @ at 14:28:39 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Interesting part is MID as well. Yes, I was also stumbling on this. I will watch this over the next days. There was only one occurence in the last 130 spam mails... I have a folder for Punks (junk mail) where I manually add those pearls. And then occasionally, when I get in dirty Harry mode, I make a raid and inspect them for patterns. It worked for me that fine that today I receive about 50:50 spam:regular mail, and almost all this spam is deleted from server. This what I still don't catch is about 2-3 spam letters per day (24 hours), of about 300-400 of regular ones. No one false positive ever. Yet. (I shudder on false positive, and this is the reason I do not use any antispam software.) I am not very experienced with RegExp either (I guess it is too abstract for my mind)... I still can't get with (all) English terms they're defined by, and have no time to experiment practically. Similarly as with English math terms. These expert terms in general are my weak side. But nothing hurts that much as expert terms applied in cocking. If I can't find a term for garlic and am using onion instead, or am mixing roasting, frying, baking, and boiling and stewing - that's a REAL pain. This way you might get a real mess for lunch. It hurts... Which reminds me that I have to go for the liver pasta now... It's good with ajvar/AJBAP. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 28 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWs749q62QPd3XuIRAidsAJ9v8pNsf6ZMs8QVqFNIHriHJedUjgCgjuxz /Q/TzpJ0LoPEOMQkJhnSeS4= =qNWP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?
Hello Neal, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:58:14 PM, you wrote: NL One way is to look at the statistics BayesIt generates. The would be NL found here: Options Preferences Plug-ins BayesIt Information NL Highlight the BayesIt plugin and click the info button and you will NL see a large amount of data pertaining to BayesIt's actions. This is NL were I would start anyhow. That is definitely the place to go to see what it is doing in a fairly understandable way. Another thing to do is look in Bayesit's log file. There you can see what it did with every message in the last message get. Mine is in C:\My Documents\BatMail\bayesit. But be warned, it is pretty obtuse stuff in there wink -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SpamPal or K9?
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 5:42:48 AM, you wrote: IL 10-20 messages and 90% accuracy of filtering. IL A few hints, if you have subscribed to any mailing IL lists, don't mark IL messages as NOT Junk, put them in white list. IL White list and black list what you can and let the IL filter to deal IL with rest, works for 99.97% in a week. How would you deal with an account which has very little legit traffic, but seems to be a spam magnet? I have shifted some messages from other accounts and marked them 'not junk', when I remember, but it's not very convenient to have do that. The account gets no list mail. The other accounts seems to be fairly efficient .. tia .. -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.0.14 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hallo Lynn, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:55:52 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 17:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L How would you deal with an account which has very little L legit traffic, but seems to be a spam magnet? I'd drop it as soon as possible. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpW5LmbUN8Ph.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message header widths
Dear Marten, Explore the whole vast range of options available to you using View modes. You can select columns, set widths, threading, sort orders and apply them on mass to all, selected and tree branches of folders. Heh hey!! So that's what View Modes is all about! Something new every day! Thanks -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SpamPal or K9?
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:10:36 AM, you wrote: RO I'd drop it as soon as possible. Drop what, the account? I suppose it's worth considering ... -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.0.14 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR There is still something I'm curious about: when I click on the CR question mark and the signature is verified, it normally turns into a CR green check mark. With Mica's messages the question mark disappears CR and a file attachment appears saying OK - PGP Verified. I'm not sure but I think it's the way the message is signed as to what way the verification is shown but I'm sure I'll be corrected. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 pgpuJalETDyPM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hallo Lynn, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:52:34 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 18:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO I'd drop it as soon as possible. L Drop what, the account? Yep, anything that gets far more spam than legit mail isn't worth maintaining. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpkvODo6bnGm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hello Mica, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:04:25 +0200 GMT (29/09/2004, 22:04 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM Which reminds me that I have to go for the liver pasta now... It's good MM with ajvar/AJBAP. http://faq.macedonia.org/cuisine/ajvar.html http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/82/ Sounds good. :-) Except liver pasta: I don't usually eat things from inside the body. And especially not the liver, which is the filter that keeps all the poison from circulating in the body, but storing a lot of them instead of passing them on to the kidneys. So you get to eat the accumulated does of those poisons by eating liver. What a treat. f'up2tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:06:27 -0700 (1:06 AM here), Michael L. Wilson [MLW] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, MLW what do others think? I've used SpamPal for quite some time and really like it. I've experimented with BayesIt and Bayes Filter. The plug in idea is appealing, not having to run a relay and having the spam solution more self contained. I never received the accuracy of SpamPal with either of these solutions. Not to mention the stability problems that recent BayesIt versions have had. I use the Bayesian Filter, P2P, RegExFilter and URLBody plugins with SpamPal. It never misclassifies good messages as spam and rarely misses spam. On the rare miss, I can open the reclassify window to learn the missed spam. It works very well upon initial setup. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0.0.19 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBWrsavZSrVDqOXK0RAsBsAKDqt5cuALq0JdjyJCyObaewe6yZWACdH4C7 Ru3TIE1wyRRwFrbR9Sss/4Y= =iHXd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder
Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:03:30 +0200 (4:03 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote: is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as described (in Read messages). It works only when I start it manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter is to mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra conditins). This might work for you: 1. If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit TheBat!, create a file for that purpose. Let's call the folder SavedJunk. (If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit TheBat!, skip this step.) 2. Highlight the Junk mail (not the SavedJunk folder). TheBat! = Folder = Properties [x] Maximum number of stored messages is 0 [ ] Keep messages in base on exit [x] Remove old messages[x] compress folder If you created SavedJunk [Copy to] [x] SavedJunk Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
POPFile - selective use?
I have loads of email accountsto check. DO you think I can install POPFile (again) but this time only have it proxying for some accounts and leave others to not be proxied? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
On Wed 29-Sep-04 6:29am -0400, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 12:50, Roelof Otten wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? Indeed it would. A better choice might be: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Not only does this match empty or blank Subject lines, it also matches mails without a Subject line. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Pro - BayesIt! 0.6.10 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [29.9.2004, 7:50:03 PM]: DG Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:03:30 +0200 (4:03 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote: is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as described (in Read messages). It works only when I start it manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter is to mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra conditins). DG This might work for you: DG 1. If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit DGTheBat!, create a file for that purpose. Let's call the folder DGSavedJunk. (If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when DGyou exit TheBat!, skip this step.) DG 2. Highlight the Junk mail (not the SavedJunk folder). No, no, thats OK, my Junk remains in Junk folder (actually, it remains there for one day), but thats not important. Important thing is that I've set up a filter (a discussed in previous messages - Read), which will mark all messages inside JUNK folder as unread, _if_ their status is read and Recipient is one of my emails. So far, it works only if I manually refilter JUNK folder (although the filter is set to active). Then, if I mark all messages inside JUNK folder to read, after exiting The Bat! and restarting it again, all the messages in JUNK folder remain read. But I thought they should be refiltered... -- ... IBM: Incredibly Boring Manuals Nikola Knezevic [homepage: http://users.hemo.net/indy] [jabberID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to get rid of New and Total in folder bar?
Hello, can i somehow get rid of New and Total in the folder bar? i don't need those two... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to auto-mark moved mails as read?
Hello Ralph, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 2:26:14 PM, you wrote: R a lot of my mails are filtered and moved to (sub-)folders when i R receive them. However, when i click them in their (sub-)folders, i R want them to be marked as read after 2 seconds - just like the mails R in my inbox. R How can i do that? That property is set in the Account/Properties/Options Mark as read when it is being read for x Seconds. This should work for all folders in the account. If these are Common Folders then they have their own Properties for that folder. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile - selective use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO you think I can install POPFile (again) but this time only have it proxying for some accounts and leave others to not be proxied? Wouldn't this be accomplished through your TB! mail account settings? The accounts you want to access through POPFile you would use 127.0.0.1 as your POP server with the appropriate username settings. The accounts you don't want to access through POPFile, you would set up to access the POP server directly. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SpamPal or K9?
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 10:13:11 AM, you wrote: RO Yep, anything that gets far more spam than legit RO mail isn't worth RO maintaining. No doubt you are right, but I'm having some trouble training some my correspondents to use the other address :-( I'll NAG them! lol! tnx, -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.0.14 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to auto-mark moved mails as read?
Hello Stuart Cuddy, @Mittwoch, 29. September 2004, 21:38 you wrote: Hello Ralph, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 2:26:14 PM, you wrote: R a lot of my mails are filtered and moved to (sub-)folders when i R receive them. However, when i click them in their (sub-)folders, i R want them to be marked as read after 2 seconds - just like the mails R in my inbox. R How can i do that? That property is set in the Account/Properties/Options Mark as read when it is being read for x Seconds. This should work for all folders in the account. If these are Common Folders then they have their own Properties for that folder. yes, they are common folers, but i can't find the setting for that option anywhere... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of New and Total in folder bar?
Hello Ralph, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 3:28:01 PM, you wrote: R can i somehow get rid of New and Total in the folder bar? i don't R need those two... View- Columns?? you can select the ones you want, and the order they go in. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of New and Total in folder bar?
Hello Paul Cartwright, @Mittwoch, 29. September 2004, 22:03 you wrote: Hello Ralph, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 3:28:01 PM, you wrote: R can i somehow get rid of New and Total in the folder bar? i don't R need those two... View- Columns?? you can select the ones you want, and the order they go in. no, that's not what i meant. the left-most window (in default-settings) with all your accounts and folders has three columns Folders, New and Total. And i don't want to see the latter two... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to auto-mark moved mails as read?
Hello Ralph everyone else 29-Sep-2004 21:53, you wrote: yes, they are common folers, but i can't find the setting for that option anywhere... Select any common folder, then press CTRL-ALT-P to bring up the account properties for the common folders. This setting applies to all common folders. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Schrimpton's Law of Teenage Opportunity: When opportunity knocks, you've got headphones on. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Lynn everyone else 29-Sep-2004 21:50, you wrote: No doubt you are right, but I'm having some trouble training some my correspondents to use the other address :-( They'll learn when they get the no mailbox here by that name responder... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Non-Reciprocal Law of Expectations: Negative expectations yield negative results. Positive expectations yield negative results. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of New and Total in folder bar?
Hello Ralph, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:11:58 +0200GMT Ralph wrote: R can i somehow get rid of New and Total in the folder bar? i don't R need those two... View- Columns?? you can select the ones you want, and the order they go in. no, that's not what i meant. the left-most window (in default-settings) with all your accounts and folders has three columns Folders, New and Total. And i don't want to see the latter two... draw the Folders with the mouse as wide as your window and the two left columns will vanish. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.6.10 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Try to find Alow local delivery
Hi Bat Users, Here is a little test. Try to find Alow local delivery in the TB! settings. Each and every time I need to disable this function for testing purposes I find myself trying to remember were it was located. Do you know were it is? And if you do, do you think it is a logical location? If you are searching for it by now you will find it under Options-Network Admin. I always look for it under Account-propertiesTransport and Mail management. Can I get some support for this so I can ask for a change? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Army golf - Phrase used to describe the inconsistent, wayward shots of amateur golfers, that is, left-right, left-right Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: POPFile - selective use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO you think I can install POPFile (again) but this time only have it proxying for some accounts and leave others to not be proxied? Wouldn't this be accomplished through your TB! mail account settings? The accounts you want to access through POPFile you would use 127.0.0.1 as your POP server with the appropriate username settings. The accounts you don't want to access through POPFile, you would set up to access the POP server directly. Yes that's right, I was just checking that it's not going to screw something up if some are doing one thing and others another. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to auto-mark moved mails as read?
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:24:53 +0200GMT Alexander S. Kunz wrote: yes, they are common folers, but i can't find the setting for that option anywhere... Select any common folder, then press CTRL-ALT-P to bring up the account properties for the common folders. This setting applies to all common folders. You meant CTRL-SHIFT-P, did you? -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.6.10 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile - selective use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't this be accomplished through your TB! mail account settings? The accounts you want to access through POPFile you would use 127.0.0.1 as your POP server with the appropriate username settings. The accounts you don't want to access through POPFile, you would set up to access the POP server directly. Yes that's right, I was just checking that it's not going to screw something up if some are doing one thing and others another. I can't think of any reason it would screw anything up (although I've been wrong before...). I seem to recall having done this very thing when I was using POP accounts. -- Dave Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: SpamPal or K9?
Hello Lynn, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 11:55:52 AM, you wrote: How would you deal with an account which has very little legit traffic, but seems to be a spam magnet? I have shifted some messages from other accounts and marked them 'not junk', when I remember, but it's not very convenient to have do that. The account gets no list mail. I doubt that moving messages and marking them as not junk would help. Analyze your good traffic and make sure that you didn't mark any good e-mail as junk, it would result bad sorting. It you are not sure, kill the bayes database and create a new one. (make a backup first !). Most of the problems that user's describe here is result of classifying mistakes, and when user switch to another application they tend to not make such mistakes or make a few, that doesn't screw the database. Go to BayesIt home page and download the database from them. Load it up, and you will see the difference. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Hello Gerard, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 4:32:54 PM, you wrote: G If you are searching for it by now you will find it under Options-Network G Admin. G I always look for it under Account-propertiesTransport and G Mail management. G Can I get some support for this so I can ask for a change? I've changed this a few times myself, and I agree with you!! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: SpamPal or K9?
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 2:18:26 PM, you wrote: IL Go to BayesIt home page and download the database from IL them. Load it up, and you will see the difference. It's worth a try ... thanks! Ummm .. I wrote that before I'd discovered that I can't find the home page. I went back through recent posts, but the only dl's I can find are at (or through) the ritlabs page ..? Help ..? tia - -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.0.14 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to get rid of New and Total in folder bar?
Hello Ralph, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 8:28:01 PM, you wrote: R can i somehow get rid of New and Total in the folder bar? i don't R need those two... I think you refer to the Unread and Total columns. You can reduce the size of those 2 columns until they disappear completely. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.1 RC1 pgp1qtXTatk74.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Hallo Gerard, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:32:54 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G Here is a little test. That's easy, you've got a new address. G Try to find Alow local delivery in the TB! settings. If you are G searching for it by now you will find it under Options-Network G Admin. That's where I would look for it. It's a network setting, isn't it? G I always look for it under Account-propertiesTransport and G Mail management. That's hardly logical, after all it isn't an account specific setting. Would you like to set it for every account? Or to be more specific. Suppose you've got two accounts, one with local delivery enabled and one with local delivery disabled. Your writing a mail from the enabled to the disabled account. What should TB do? Do a local delivery, because that's what the sending account wants or don't do a local delivery, because the receiving account doesn't want it? That's why it's in the global network settings and not in the account properties. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpxNiU8bc2uH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Gerard @ 2004-Sep-29 4:32:54 PM Try to find Alow local delivery mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a little test. Try to find Alow local delivery in the TB! settings. SNIP If you are searching for it by now you will find it under Options-Network Admin. What does it do? It seems to be related to The Bat! networking (which I have not explored), but you comments make it seem like it has something to do with individual accounts. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 At an Optometrists Office: If you don't see what your looking for you've come to the right place. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPal or K9?
Michael, I really like K9 ( POPFile), but to conserve resources on this old system I'm trying the plug-in Achim Winklers BayesFilter, http://www.lkcc.org/achim/download/bayesfilter1.5.4.exe. So far it seems to be almost as good as K9, but learns slower. I did better with the older versions of BayesIt than the present ones, so I gave up on it. Steve . . . Michael, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 10:06:27 PM, you wrote:== Hi, I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: SpamPal or K9?)
Hallo Steve, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:40:06 -0700GMT (30-9-2004, 0:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SMK Michael, SMK I really like K9 ( POPFile), but to conserve resources on this old system I'm moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgp5NNr7Gmx08.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: SpamPal or K9?)
Hallo Steve, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:40:06 -0700GMT (30-9-2004, 0:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SMK Michael, snip SMK SMK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: SMK http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpAbyxixqZCN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Hello Chris, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 6:14:18 PM, you wrote: Here is a little test. Try to find Alow local delivery in the TB! settings. C SNIP If you are searching for it by now you will find it under Options-Network Admin. C What does it do? It seems to be related to The Bat! networking (which C I have not explored), but you comments make it seem like it has C something to do with individual accounts. I have multiple accounts, and multiple users on this PC ( me and wife). I copy her to many emails ( and vice versa) and CC myself to emails. those go faster when you allow local delivery. that means it doesn't leave the computer, just goes from one account right to the other. Why send a message outside to a server somewhere, when it belongs right here. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Pick an e-mail address display problem
Hi Bat! Fans, Since upgrading to V3.0 and Windoze XP SP2 (don't know which one is the problem) I am having weird display problems in the Pick an e-mail address window. Where previously arrows appeared to enable the picking or un-picking of an address, now I get in order (under each other) 4 44 3 33 r s Is this a known fault or only me? Have not changed my resolution at all. (1024 x 768) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Car sickness is the feeling you get when the monthly car payment is due.. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pick an e-mail address display problem
John Phillips @ 2004-Sep-29 6:15:41 AM Pick an e-mail address display problem mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this a known fault or only me? It is a known bug and has been fixed in the latest beta. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Message on a leaflet: IF YOU CANNOT READ, THIS LEAFLET WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET LESSONS Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Paul Cartwright @ 2004-Sep-29 8:03:27 PM Try to find Alow local delivery mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have multiple accounts, and multiple users on this PC ( me and wife). I copy her to many emails ( and vice versa) and CC myself to emails. those go faster when you allow local delivery. that means it doesn't leave the computer, just goes from one account right to the other. Why send a message outside to a server somewhere, when it belongs right here. I've never had to do that because we have an internal mail server at home. Sounds interesting, though. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Today's Oxymoron: Legally drunk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Russian/Cyrillic Signature File in The Bat! 3.0
Hello, again, everyone. On Thursday, 23 September 2004, I sent a query to this list about a problem that I am having in evaluating The Bat 3.0 as a replacement for Outlook XP/2002 (under Windows XP Professional, SP 1). I believe that my problem stems from the fact that The Bat does not yet offer Unicode support, but I could be wrong. I could easily be doing something wrong, or just plain stupid. ;-) Because I have Russian-speaking friends in Ukraine and Russian (including my fiancee in Odessa, Ukraine), I send many e-mail messages that contain Cyrillic text, which is easy to do with Thunderbird, because I can use UTF-8 encoding (but The Bat is much more powerful). I have absolutely no problems with Russian/English messages in Outlook, but I want a more secure, and powerful, e-mail client. My workaround for the text of my messages is to use a default character set of KOI8-R, but, for some reason, my signature file, which contains an excerpt of a Pushkin poem in Russian, will NOT import into my TB messages: DMD I am using the following cookie setup in my DMD preferences for the account I am using for testing, DMD inserting a new line character (\n) at the end of DMD each line, as instructed by the on-line help, DMD %COOKIE=C:\pushkin-signature-unicode-koi8-r.txt. I used the evaluation version of the Unicode text editor EmEditor to create the signature file. Because I am only able to use my signature file successfully in Outlook, I do not know if the problem lies with my Russian/English text file or with TB itself. (I have the same problem, by the way, with Thunderbird, which is Unicode-compliant!) I apologize for mentioning this problem a second time, but I received no response to my query, nor has RITLabs support offered any suggestions. My decision on whether to use TB hinges, in part, on resolving this problem -- and I would appreciate any suggestions, or even a response. Thank you very much, in advance! Cordially, David P.S. -- I apologize if rementioning a topic is in violation of TBUDL protocol, but we are all aware of the support situation with TB, and the lack of a manual in printed or PDF format. (At the risk of sounding crass, I would LOVE to be able to RTFM!) -- David M. Dickerson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://ddickerson.igc.org/ * * * In a world of absurdity, we must invent reason; we must create beauty out of nothingness. - ELIE WIESEL _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile - selective use?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 20:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO you think I can install POPFile (again) but this time only have it proxying for some accounts and leave others to not be proxied? Yes, you define the POP-setting in your account settings and not in Popfile. Those who should connect through Popfile need the 127.0.0.1 settings. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to filter such a message?
Hæ! Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 20:22, Bill McCarthy wrote: Header field - Subject - match - ^\s*$ Thanks, I will try it. :) Why are RegExp so cryptical... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Russian/Cyrillic Signature File in The Bat! 3.0
David wrote: DMD Hello, again, everyone. DMD On Thursday, 23 September 2004, I sent a query to this list about a DMD problem that I am having in evaluating The Bat 3.0 as a replacement DMD for Outlook XP/2002 (under Windows XP Professional, SP 1). (skipped) DMD I apologize for mentioning this problem a second time, but I received DMD no response to my query, nor has RITLabs support offered any DMD suggestions. I _did_ send a reply to your previous message, and it appeared on the list. However, you seem to have missed it somehow, so here you have it again, and I'm also copying it to your private adddress: - David wrote: DMD Because I send e-mail messages containing Russian/Cyrillic text, DMD any e-mail client upon which I decide must support Cyrillic text. (skipped) DMD My problem comes with my signature file, which is a few lines of DMD Pushkin, in Russian. I have the signature file saved as a separate DMD Unicode/Cyrillic text file, but when The Bat! imports the file, DMD the result is gibberish characters that are not Russian at all. DMD I am using the following cookie setup in my preferences for DMD the account I am using for testing, inserting a newline character DMD (\n) at the end of each line, as instructed by the on-line help, DMD %COOKIE=C:\pushkin-signature-unicode-koi8-r.txt. Well, I would consider thge following as a possible solution. Save your signature file as non-Unicode Windows Cyrillic. Use some (re-)encoding software to make it KOI-8. Use %COOKIE=C:\pushkin-signature-your-plain-non-unicode-koi8-r.txt :). I personally would recommend Decode by Boris Berdichevskiy, http://www.borisba.com/~borisba/decode21.zip (that page is unfortunately Russian only, but the program interface is in English.) I can send you the latest version by personal e-mail if you wish. This software is free. ZIP archive, something about 250 KB. Doesn't need installation; unpack it, and you're done. I sincerely recommending his software to everybody Cyrillic-(and other-) encodings-challenged. (For the record, I am in no way associated with its author.) Regards, Maksym -- Maksym Kozub(+380 44)424-1792(tel./fax), (+380 67)466-5174(mob.) Translations/Interpreting/Editing (English, Polish - Ukrainian, Russian) MK881-UANIChttp://kozub.in.ua[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
