Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 28 October 2015 at 1:25:46 AM, in
<mid:185484464.20151028082...@gmx.net>, Thomas Fernandez wrote:




> I just checked this:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help.php?q=shortcut

> But couldn't find "assigning keyboard shortcuts".  


On that page, select the link for "Program interface" and then scroll
down about two thirds of the page (14 times on my screen), you get a
brief mention: "In the Shortcuts section you can check the shortcuts
set for certain program actions and specify your own shortcuts. You
can also remove shortcuts if needed." 

And it is in the help file for my TB! version, although the menu route 
listed to get there is incorrect.


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 26 October 2015 at 9:48:00 PM, in
, Robert Bull
wrote:



> It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity
> these answers aren't collected into some kind of Wiki
> or Evernote-style knowledge base.  


A few years ago there was a "The Bat! User Documentation Project" at 
 but I think it 
kinda fizzled out and the URL (which Firefox says I added to my 
Bookmarks on 24/10/2004) is no longer active. 

Whilst I was there, I noticed the Roguemoticons login page is still
working at .


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:12:14 + GMT (28-Oct-15, 03:12 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

>> It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity
>> these answers aren't collected into some kind of Wiki
>> or Evernote-style knowledge base.  


> A few years ago there was a "The Bat! User Documentation Project" at 
> <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php> but I think it 
> kinda fizzled out and the URL (which Firefox says I added to my 
> Bookmarks on 24/10/2004) is no longer active. 

I just checked this: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help.php?q=shortcut

But couldn't find "assigning keyboard shortcuts".

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
> UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part 
> of
> the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
> infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'
3.- On the Customise window, on the the left of the Menu & Toolbar tab
(Containers) select Main menu.
4.- On the top left, select the Shortcuts tab. Main menu will now show
expanded.
5.- Expand 'Utilities' by clicking on the + on the left.
6.- Double  click  on  'Insert  Quick Template' end the Shortcut Edit
window will open.
7.- Select Ctrl+Space a click on Remove button.
8.- On  the  right,  where  'none'  is  shown,  type your new desired
shortcut and hit the Add button. Confirm your new setting and then
click on the OK (or Cancel) button of Customiser

HTH.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Robert,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:41:18 PM you wrote:

RB> Yes, indeed  :)  There are clearly gaps in the Help file; pity these
RB> nuggets aren't collected into some kind of knowledge base.

You took it out of my thoughts, but I was afraid it was too OT. 
No trout please!

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

On Monday, October 26, 2015, 10:50:12 AM, MAU wrote:

> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

> 1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
> 2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'

I wouldn't have thought to right-click the toolbar, and would have
floundered amongst all the subsequent options.  Your instructions are
*admirably* clear.  Many thanks!

> HTH.

It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity these answers
aren't collected into some kind of Wiki or Evernote-style knowledge
base.


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

On Monday, October 26, 2015, 1:32:51 PM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

M>> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

Yes, indeed  :)  There are clearly gaps in the Help file; pity these
nuggets aren't collected into some kind of knowledge base.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Maggie,


JSL>> Thanks MAU.
>
JSL>> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.
>
> I saw this just as I was flagging and parking the directions to
> change the shortcut. I realized that many of my flagged and
> parked messages were from MAU, so I'd like to add my thanks, too.

You  are  very  welcome.  After being retired for seven years, it is a
nice feeling to see that I can still be useful for something ;-)


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
>> UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part 
>> of
>> the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
>> infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

M> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

M> 1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
M> 2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'
M> 3.- On the Customise window, on the the left of the Menu & Toolbar tab
M> (Containers) select Main menu.
M> 4.- On the top left, select the Shortcuts tab. Main menu will now show
M> expanded.
M> 5.- Expand 'Utilities' by clicking on the + on the left.
M> 6.- Double  click  on  'Insert  Quick Template' end the Shortcut Edit
M> window will open.
M> 7.- Select Ctrl+Space a click on Remove button.
M> 8.- On  the  right,  where  'none'  is  shown,  type your new desired
M> shortcut and hit the Add button. Confirm your new setting and then
M> click on the OK (or Cancel) button of Customiser

M> HTH.

Thanks MAU.

See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:32:51 AM you wrote:

JSL> Thanks MAU.

JSL> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

I saw this just as I was flagging and parking the directions to
change the shortcut. I realized that many of my flagged and
parked messages were from MAU, so I'd like to add my thanks, too.

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Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

I keep hitting Ctrl+Space accidentally when in the message editor,
bringing up the "Select Quick Template" dialog when I don't want it,
and wish to change the shortcut to something else. Help says

-
The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal
windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book,
message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts
menu command of any of such window.
-

but I can't see such an entry under any View menu I've looked at.

Suggestions - please?


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Robert,

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 you wrote:

RB> I keep hitting Ctrl+Space accidentally when in the message editor,
RB> bringing up the "Select Quick Template" dialog when I don't want it,
RB> and wish to change the shortcut to something else. Help says

RB> -
RB> The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal
RB> windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book,
RB> message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts
RB> menu command of any of such window.
RB> -

RB> but I can't see such an entry under any View menu I've looked at.

RB> Suggestions - please?

Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part of
the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

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Re: Changing Keyboard Shortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ian,

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:47:23 +1100GMT (6-3-2013, 5:47 , where I live),
you wrote:

IAW Where do you change the keyboard shortcuts?

 Workspace - Toolbars - Customise - Shortcuts
 For older versions it was
 View - Toolbars - Customise - Shortcuts

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customize keyboard shortcuts

[Christian Buhtz]

Is it possible to customize the keyboard shortcuts?
For example Strg+F5 for mail-reply is still unergonomic.



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Re: customize keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 3 November 2009 at 6:29:31 PM, in
mid:hcpssc$8f...@ger.gmane.org, Christian Buhtz wrote:


 Is it possible to customize the keyboard shortcuts? For
 example Strg+F5 for mail-reply is still unergonomic.

In the main TB! window, right-click a blank space in the toolbars and 
pick customise then pick the shortcuts tab...



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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Aam,

Monday, October 5, 2009, 7:06:57 AM, among other things, you wrote:

aas * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
aas confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
aas is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.
This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been 
corrected in the next beta.

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, October 5, 2009, Roger Phillips wrote:

aas * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
aas confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
aas is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.
 This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been
 corrected in the next beta.

no problem here with 4.2.10.12

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

A Bat-fellow, Roger Phillips,
wrote in mid:1856529699.20091005113...@dbnmail.co.za
on Monday, 5th October 2009 at 11:31:02 (GMT +0200),
which was ditto in Bratislava --

 * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
 confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
 is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.

 This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been
 corrected in the next beta.


It *is* corrected, thank heavens. Thanks to the help from the guys in
the Czech Bat! list, I was given the suggestion to try the latest Beta
version, 4.2.10.12, and keyboard shortcuts editing works again. Hooray!

However, as to smileys, these still aren't displayed, despite identical
settings  the presence of the IMAGES folder, as compared to version
3.xx, which is the last time I ever saw smileys displayed here. (Admittedly,
a cosmetic issue compared to the keyboard shortcuts.)

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

A Bat-fellow, myself,
wrote in mid:373027348.20091005120...@avenarius.sk
on Monday, 5th October 2009 at 12:01:54 (GMT +0200) --

 However, as to smileys, these still aren't displayed, despite identical
 settings  the presence of the IMAGES folder, as compared to version
 3.xx, which is the last time I ever saw smileys displayed here.


It looks like this may have been caused by a conflict in versions, too.
Believe it or not, the smileys are *slowly* coming back.  :-O  I wouldn't
have thought this possible, but right now in *some* emails, the smileys
aren't displayed, and in other emails (like this one I'm currently composing),
they are displayed OK. Well... anyway... my warm recommendations to
everyone to upgrade to the 4.2.10.12 Beta version, as it seems to have
worked wonders on my computer, compared to the most recent regular
release, 4.2.10.1, where I could neither see any smileys, nor edit any
keyboard shortcuts...

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No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

Hello, I have just upgraded to the current version of The Bat, 4.2.10.1,
from 4.0.38. After upgrade, the following 2 main bugs occur:

* I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.

* Smilies do not get displayed, even after activating them  the rich-text 
viewer.
They are present in the standard The Bat! directory in Program Files.

I will appreciate any help. Customizable keyboard shortcuts are essential
for me, and a show-stopper in case they aren't available in the new version.
I would need to downgrade. Thank you very much for any suggestions.

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Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Code 2]

I just upgraded from Version 2.12.00 and I'm trying to figure out
how to edit the keyboard shortcuts. I used to do it with Alt-F12 or
View | Edit Shortcuts.

In Version 4, when I try to make the changes in the Options |
Preferences... | Other Options | System Hot Keys dialog box, I can't
get my changes to stick.

How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
Alt-F2 to just F2?

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Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Rick Grunwald]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
mail for that account only

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Re[2]: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Code 2]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG mail for that account only

That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of F2 in that
enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
assign F2 as the shortcut to Get new mail for all, the change still
won't stick.

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Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Rick Grunwald]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG mail for that account only

 That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
 shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

 I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
 right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
 tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of F2 in that
 enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
 assign F2 as the shortcut to Get new mail for all, the change still
 won't stick.


Under shortcuts main form / main menu / account you will see account
and F2 to the right. Remove that and then you can put F2 where you
want it
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Re: Confused about keyboard shortcuts (again)

[Tom Plunket]

Nick Dutton wrote:

 I'd like to set up some keyboard shortcuts to move between messages:
   Forward/Back = ./,

 I have set this up in the View Message Folder section and it works
 nicely when I view each message in its own viewer window.

 I'd also like this to work when I'm reading messages in the regular
 3-panel view.  If I set the shortcuts up in my custom toolbar in the
 Main Form section then they also operate in the compose window.
 This is a real handicap when it comes to punctuation!

 I thought that the scope of the shortcuts should prevent them from
 operating in that window.  Am I wrong, or is it TB!?

I'm also experiencing the same dismay, after another user said, oh I
have Agent shortcuts configured, I did a few, and then every time I
typed an 'r' in the compose window, it popped open a new reply to
myself.  Grr...

How can keystrokes for the main window be stuck in the main window,
and not run over into other windows?  For that matter, if I redefine
single-key actions, can I still use the search toolbar if I manually
put it into focus?


-tom!

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Confused about keyboard shortcuts (again)

[Nick Dutton]

Hello,

I'd like to set up some keyboard shortcuts to move between messages:
  Forward/Back = ./,

I have set this up in the View Message Folder section and it works
nicely when I view each message in its own viewer window.

I'd also like this to work when I'm reading messages in the regular
3-panel view.  If I set the shortcuts up in my custom toolbar in the
Main Form section then they also operate in the compose window.
This is a real handicap when it comes to punctuation!

I thought that the scope of the shortcuts should prevent them from
operating in that window.  Am I wrong, or is it TB!?
  
TIA

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keyboard shortcuts menu

[WL]

Hello, all.

It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory
may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10.

I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts
for things like menu actions, etc. The help file references
the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails
in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does
it still exist?

WL
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Re: keyboard shortcuts menu

[Mary Bull]

Hello WL!

On Monday, August 29, 2005, 1:10 PM, you wrote:

 It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory
 may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10.

This version has a completely new interface.

 I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts
 for things like menu actions, etc.

Yes. This is now found in View/Toolbars/Customise

 ... The help file references
 the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails
 in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does
 it still exist?

Some of the v. 3.xx Help file is now outmoded, although there are many
useful things in it that still work. For instance, the list of macros.

It may not be easy to find your way around the Customise dialogues. Be
sure to ask again here, if you don't figure out what to do.

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keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Robin Anson]

Batlovers,

Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

I remember some discussion about it being different in V3.5, but I can't
find it anywhere.
 
Robin

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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, July 29, 2005, Robin Anson wrote:

 Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
 the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

 I remember some discussion about it being different in V3.5, but I can't
 find it anywhere.

select View | Toolbars | Customise or click with right mouse button
on icon or menu toolbar ans select Customise. This dialog includes
Shortcuts too.

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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[MAU]

Hello Robin,

 Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
 the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Robin Anson]

Thanks MAU ( Marek)

On Fri 29 July 2005, 22:20:25 +1000, you wrote:
 View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
 may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
 assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

Hmm, the keyboard shortcut I wanted was one that set the folder view
mode. On v3.0.1 it came as part of the default setting. In v3.51 I can't
see it at all. Is it one of the ones that can't (yet) be assigned?

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Re[2]: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Robin,

  A reminder of what Robin Anson typed on:
  Friday, July 29, 2005 at 22:40:31 GMT +1000

RA Thanks MAU ( Marek)

RA On Fri 29 July 2005, 22:20:25 +1000, you wrote:
 View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
 may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
 assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

RA Hmm, the keyboard shortcut I wanted was one that set the folder view
RA mode. On v3.0.1 it came as part of the default setting. In v3.51 I can't
RA see it at all. Is it one of the ones that can't (yet) be assigned?

Under Available Items on the left side, find Message Controller and
then scroll down to mFolderViewMode. Try adding it to a new menu and
then setting a shortcut to it. You should be able to then hide the new
menu and have the shortcut still work.

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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Darrin,

   Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
   TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
   even a word?) h

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html

See Is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?

It may be old, but you can try the ones you find interesting, and see
if they still work. Its a starting point at least.

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Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Darrin]

Hello TBUDL,

  Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
  TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
  even a word?) h

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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:20:02 AM, Darrin wrote:

 Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
 TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
 even a word?) h

Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
indicated in the pull down menus.


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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Paul Jansen]

Dear Paul,

 Hello TBUDL,

   Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
   TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
   even a word?) h



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Re[2]: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Darrin]

Hello Dwight,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 7:28:45 AM, you wrote:

 Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
 many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
 indicated in the pull down menus.

too bad. If someone could come up with a list I could put them up on
the net when I had some time.

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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin,

On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:17:00 +0200GMT Martin Schuster wrote:

 It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
 collapses them.

MS That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
MS soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
MS CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the
MS current point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

you should use the * from the numeric keypad, then it will work

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Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello tbudl,

I know everybody's off testing the bugs in the new version, but I'm
currently searching myself to death for a simple keyboard shortcut:

Collapse Thread (i.e. completely collapse the current thread)

An old shortcut list I have says it's ctrl-* but that does not work
on my german keyboard (most probably because the * is shift+PLUS,
which is the shortcut for open thread...

And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser. Anybody
knows where it hides?


!!! Idea !!!
How would it be to have a quick search field in customiser so
I can search for Shortcuts or functions/items by namecl? I never know if I need
to search a certain function under MsgCtl or meEdit because I
don't know what MsgCtl is...


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 7:51:04 AM, you wrote:
M And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser.
M Anybody knows where it hides?

It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
collapses them.

M How would it be to have a quick search field in customiser so I can
M search for Shortcuts or functions/items by namecl? I never know if
M I need to search a certain function under MsgCtl or meEdit
M because I don't know what MsgCtl is...

Yeah, it'd be nice to be able to do that. It took me a while the first
time around setting up CTRL-J as a junkmail hotkey because I didn't
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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Leif,

M And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser.
M Anybody knows where it hides?

 It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
 collapses them.

That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the
current point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

:cry:

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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 8:17:00 AM, you wrote:
M That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
M soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
M CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the current
M point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

H... On my laptop I have to use CTRL-Fn-0 (0 is where the asterisk
is) to get expansion and collapse. Not familiar with the German
keyboards though.


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Leif,

 Hello Martin,

 Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 8:17:00 AM, you wrote:
M That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
M soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
M CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the current
M point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

 H... On my laptop I have to use CTRL-Fn-0 (0 is where the asterisk
 is) to get expansion and collapse. Not familiar with the German
 keyboards though.

Funnily enough this works here, too, although I have to use P
(x-sign on numeric key) that produces a *

But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
*all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

(BTW: thanks a lot for bothering with my unimportant problem)

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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Martin,

Myself blubbered just a few seconds ago into Leif's direction:

 But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
 *all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

Sorry, I can't read. Shortcut list says clearly:

Ctrl+* = open all the branches of all threads in a folder

Now if that ain't clear enough...my fault.


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 10:03:03 AM, you wrote:
M But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
M *all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

It does. Sometimes I do CTRL-* to expand, CTRL-A to select all
messages, then CTRL-M to mark them all as read.

M (BTW: thanks a lot for bothering with my unimportant problem)

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keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?

[Arthur Tan]

Hi Everyone,

Is there a key-combination to highlight any of the To: Cc: Bcc:
Subject: header lines without having to tab forward and backward?

For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase
the whole thing quickly.  Is there a keyboard command for delete line
in that part of the window?

Thanks,
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Re: keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?

[Urban]

Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Arthur Tan wrote:

 For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase
 the whole thing quickly.  Is there a keyboard command for delete line
 in that part of the window?

There are the standard Windows ones: Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow for select to
end of word, Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow for select to beginning of word, and
Shift+End for select to end of line.

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Re: keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?

[Arthur Tan]

Hi Urban,

On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 12:29:40 PM, you wrote:

 Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Arthur Tan wrote:

 For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase
 the whole thing quickly.  Is there a keyboard command for delete line
 in that part of the window?

 There are the standard Windows ones: Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow for select to
 end of word, Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow for select to beginning of word, and
 Shift+End for select to end of line.



That did the trick!  Thanks Urban!

Regards,
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Keyboard shortcuts bug: Show Header Pane in Folder View

[aam]

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 2.04.4
  Serial Number B8EEA39B
  under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:

Even after you change the keyboard shortcut for displaying the Message
Header Pane in Folder View from the default CTRL+SHIFT+H to whatever
(I wanted it to be CTRL+H), this shortcut always returns to the
default CTRL+SHIFT+H after you close and re-open this particular or
any other Folder View. The same happens after program re-start.

The bug does not apply to The Bat!'s main window where it is possible
to change the default CTRL+SHIFT+H to whatever.
  
  Steps to reproduce the bug:

Open any message in Folder View. Try to change the keyboard shortcut for
 Main Menu -- View -- Message Header -- Show. This is possible and
the new keyboard shortcut works, but only until you close that
particular Folder View. After that the keyboard shortcut is back to
default.

It's possible to modify other keyboard shortcuts in Folder View, but
this particular one with Show-Header-Pane (CTRL+SHIFT+H) appears
un-modifiable.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, 10:13:33 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO You'll only need the same filter in all of your accounts. You
RO don't need a common feature, just check 'Execute action set of
RO this rule by pressing the Hot Key' at the 'Options' tab and make
RO sure that you also check 'This rule is only executed by pressing
RO the hotkey' In order to neglect the filter conditions you must
RO have 'Check the selected message against this rule' unchecked.

Hmmm...that should work then. Now I just have to find a keyboard
shortcut/hot key that isn't already used by something else G

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Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

Delurking to ask:

Is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for something that doesn't
appear in the Shortcuts Editor? I'd like to be able to use a keyboard
shortcut to move messages to a specific folder (currrently have to use
F12  then choose the folder manually),  also to change the view mode
for a folder (currently have to go through the Folder menu or open
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Deborah,

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:35:09 +GMT (25-1-04, 10:35 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

DW Is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for something that doesn't
DW appear in the Shortcuts Editor?

In case it's a filter action you can assign the filter a hotkey.

DW I'd like to be able to use a keyboard shortcut to move messages to
DW a specific folder (currrently have to use F12  then choose the
DW folder manually),

So this is possible.

DW  also to change the view mode for a folder (currently have to go
DW through the Folder menu or open Folder Properties).

Dunno, my version doesn't support view modes.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Deborah,

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:35:09 + GMT (25/01/2004, 16:35 +0700 GMT),
Deborah W wrote:

 Is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for something that doesn't
 appear in the Shortcuts Editor?

Good question...

 I'd like to be able to use a keyboard shortcut to move messages to a
 specific folder (currrently have to use F12  then choose the folder
 manually),

F12 doesn't do anything here. However, what you want to do is create a
catch-all filter (for example testing for presence of @ in kludges),
make it manual, and assign a hotkey to that filter.

  also to change the view mode for a folder (currently have to go
 through the Folder menu or open Folder Properties).

Why do you need to change the view?

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, 10:23:30 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO In case it's a filter action you can assign the filter a hotkey.

DW I'd like to be able to use a keyboard shortcut to move messages
DW to a specific folder (currrently have to use F12  then choose
DW the folder manually),

RO So this is possible.

Hmmm...not really. I keep one folder for all personal correspondence,
but my personal correspondence come in on various accounts, so I read
it by account, then do the F12-choose-the-folder thing. But there's no
common feature that I could filter on :-/

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, 10:25:59 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF F12 doesn't do anything here.

Really? It must be one of my own keyboard shortcuts then.

TF However, what you want to do is create a catch-all filter (for
TF example testing for presence of @ in kludges), make it manual, and
TF assign a hotkey to that filter.

Won't that filter the whole folder though? I only need to move one
message at a time.

  also to change the view mode for a folder (currently have to go
 through the Folder menu or open Folder Properties).

TF Why do you need to change the view?

Sometimes I want to see, for example, the memo field in the message
list; sometimes I don't. I have about three views that I use
regularly,  the ability to save a bunch of settings together as a
Folder View is very nice - but I'm demanding,  would like to be able
to activate it with one click ;-)

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Deborah,

 Won't that filter the whole folder though? I only need to move one
 message at a time.

See the filter Options tab, there is the possibility of only checking
the selected message.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, 11:55:54 AM, MAU wrote:

M See the filter Options tab, there is the possibility of only
M checking the selected message.

Ah, that will work then. Pity I'm going to have to do it on for every
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Deborah,

 Ah, that will work then. Pity I'm going to have to do it on for every
 account *sigh*

You may want to try The Bat! Filter Commander

   http://tirna.narod.ru/soft/files/setup_tbfc120.exe

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Deborah W]

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, 12:49:54 PM, MAU wrote:

M You may want to try The Bat! Filter Commander

Ooooh...I didn't know about that!

Off to play :-)

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Re: Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Steve,

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:22:38 +1100 GMT (23/01/2004, 05:22 +0700 GMT),
Steve Mullarkey wrote:

 Thanks Thomas. I forgot to put the word 'Documentation' in my msg as
 well as in the Subject line.

Maybe I didn't read the subject line carefully enough.

 I can see that your suggestion allows me modify shortcuts but I was
 looking for documentation I can read through and search to show me
 what options are available.  Most programs I use have this information
 in the Help file, but I can't find it in The Bat. The best I found is
 a text file from January 2000.

Maybe it's not in the help file, but my suggestion allows you to check
through the shortcuts.

 Specifically I am looking for a keyboard shortcut to take me directly
 to the folder/account window.  Using TAB and Shift/TAB sort of works
 but gets into an awful mess when HTML msgs are displayed.

Maybe you are right, insofar that the shortcut you are looking for
doesn't seem to exist.

Just maybe... I know nothing.

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Re: Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Steve,

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:10:08 +1100 GMT (22/01/2004, 08:10 +0700 GMT),
Steve Mullarkey wrote:

 Where can I find all keyboard shortcuts for the current 2.0 version of
 The Bat ?

View / Edit shortcuts.

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Cheers,
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Re[2]: Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version

[Steve Mullarkey]

 Where can I find all keyboard shortcuts for the current 2.0 version
 of The Bat ?

TF View / Edit shortcuts.

Thanks Thomas. I forgot to put the word 'Documentation' in my msg as
well as in the Subject line.

I can see that your suggestion allows me modify shortcuts but I was
looking for documentation I can read through and search to show me
what options are available.  Most programs I use have this information
in the Help file, but I can't find it in The Bat. The best I found is
a text file from January 2000.

Specifically I am looking for a keyboard shortcut to take me directly
to the folder/account window.  Using TAB and Shift/TAB sort of works
but gets into an awful mess when HTML msgs are displayed.

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Documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts for Current Version

[Steve Mullarkey]

I have searched for documentation on Keyboard Shortcuts as the help
file is very limited.

The best I can find is dated 19-Jan-2000 . that's four years old !

Where can I find all keyboard shortcuts for the current 2.0 version of
The Bat ?


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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts ?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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RE: Keyboard Shortcuts ?

Greetings John,

On Thursday, November 27, 2003, 11:31:37 PM, you wrote:

JM   I defined a shortcut a while back, So that when I press this key `
JM   It switches my Edit Mail Message from plain text to HTML. I want
JM   to change it, I tried (Alt+F12) but i can't find where I defined
JM   that particular keyboard shortcut :(

Options, Preferences, System Hotkeys?

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts ?

[John Morse]

Hi The_Bat! Users,

Sunday, November 30, 2003, 6:13:00 AM, you wrote:

DRS® Options, Preferences, System Hotkeys?

Thanks for the reply, but I finally found it.
It was buried deep in Alt+F12

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts ?

[John Morse]

Hi The_Bat! Users,

Thursday, November 27, 2003, 10:53:53 PM, you wrote:

BJ Try Alt+F12 in Mail Edit window.

I found it, it was under Options|Message Format

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Keyboard Shortcuts ?

[John Morse]

Hello The_Bat! Users,

  I defined a shortcut a while back, So that when I press this key `
  It switches my Edit Mail Message from plain text to HTML. I want
  to change it, I tried (Alt+F12) but i can't find where I defined
  that particular keyboard shortcut :(

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts ?

[Bobi Jam]

Hello John,

On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 22:31:37[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was
12:31 where I live) John wrote:
John Hello The_Bat! Users,

John   I defined a shortcut a while back, So that when I press this key `
John   It switches my Edit Mail Message from plain text to HTML. I want
John   to change it, I tried (Alt+F12) but i can't find where I defined
John   that particular keyboard shortcut :(

Try Alt+F12 in Mail Edit window.

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TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone

[Avenarius]

Greetings to Bat-fellows,

as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign
keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The
correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has
disappeared.

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Re: TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avenarius,

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 17:00:37 +0200 GMT (03/09/2003, 22:00 +0700 GMT),
Avenarius wrote:

 as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign
 keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The
 correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has
 disappeared.

It's still here, under View (for some reason) / Edit shortcuts.

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Re: TB 2.0: Attachments Pane Popup Keyboard Shortcuts Gone

[Avenarius]

A Bat-fellow, Thomas Fernandez,
wrote on Wednesday, 3rd September 2003 at 23:39:57 (GMT +0700),
which was 18:39 in Bratislava --

 as the Subject says, in Version 2.0 you can no longer modify/assign
 keyboard shortcuts to actions such as Open/Save Attachment(s) etc. The
 correspondent section in the keyboard shortcuts editor has
 disappeared.

 It's still here, under View (for some reason) / Edit shortcuts.

I don't mean the keyboard shortcuts editor itself, but a section in it
that used to be called, in 1.6x, something like Attachments Pane
PopUp, and there you could modify shortcuts for actions such as Open
This Attachment, Save All Attachments etc.

This is what my keyboard shortcuts editor looks like in Version 2.0's
main window:
http://avenarius.sk/misc/keyboard_shortcuts.gif
If you can help me where, in this editor, to find the option, for
example, to switch the shortcuts for Open and Save attachments
(I'd like to have ENTER and CTRL+ENTER the other way round for the two
actions -- it was possible to switch them in 1.6x), I'd be grateful.

And you're right, the location of that editor under View menu is
illogical. It should perhaps be located in the recently introduced
centralized Preferences dialog, even though The Bat! is devious in
that the same keyboard shortcut performs a different action depending
on where you currently are (writing a message, reading a message,
performing a search, or simply in the main window).

That is another *wonderful* aspect of TB. Still, all of these
variables could be brought together in the centralized Preferences
window. I mean, since the Preferences window features two sets of
preferences for two various TB editors, why couldn't the same window
feature four or five sets of preferences for keyboard shortcuts for
each of TB's working environments? The four or five environments could
be hidden under a common heading such as Keyboard Shortcuts
Remapping and could be unpacked using the customary + sign/key so
that they wouldn't clutter the Preferences window.

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Keyboard Shortcuts

[Stuart Hemming]

Can anyone tell me how to reset the keyboard shortcuts to the 'factory
defaults' please?

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

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@3-Mar-2003, 07:18 Stuart Hemming [SH] in
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SH Can anyone tell me how to reset the keyboard shortcuts to the 'factory
SH defaults' please?

A guess - delete the shortcut.cfg file from the MAIL folder? (well,
rename it so that you can get it back if it kills TB). Exit TB
before trying this.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

[Stuart Hemming]

MDP A guess - delete the shortcut.cfg file from the MAIL folder?
That did it. TVM.
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Re: The keyboard shortcuts list

[Julian Beach (Lists)]

On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 11:22:53 PM, Scott Johnson wrote:

 I didn't even know there was a ketboard shortcut list anywhere...  To
 help out the newbies here (like me!) could people please post URLs
 when writing about a site?

The URL is posted on the bottom of each message.  Follow the link, and
at the top of the page you will see a link to the TBUDL FAQ Pages, and
on the first page of the FAQ you will see the question Is there a
compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?

Julian

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The keyboard shortcuts list

[Simon]

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'Lo Chiropter Operators,

 Is  anyone  currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now? I notice
 that on Marck's site the English text version hasn't been updated since The
 Bat! V.1.38e and the HTML version was last updated on June 22, 2001.

 The  reason  I  looked  is  because  I  was curious after a recent question
 regarding  opening  all  threads  and  closing  them using shortcut keys. I
 wondered  why  the  person asking wasn't directed to the shortcuts list for
 the  Ctrl+Shift+*  to close all threads, but on looking I see that only the
 expand all threads shortcut is listed (Ctrl+*).

 Anyhow, I know everyone does there bit voluntarily so was just asking :)

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Re: The keyboard shortcuts list

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Simon,

on Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:32:37 +GMT (01.12.02, 18:32 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

S  Is  anyone  currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now?

I don't think so...

S  The  reason  I  looked  is  because  I  was curious after a recent question
S  regarding  opening  all  threads  and  closing  them using shortcut keys. I
S  wondered  why  the  person asking wasn't directed to the shortcuts list for
S  the  Ctrl+Shift+*  to close all threads, but on looking I see that only the
S  expand all threads shortcut is listed (Ctrl+*).

CTRL + - works for closing, AFAIK... :-)

S  Anyhow, I know everyone does there bit voluntarily so was just asking :)

No problem! *S* There are so many undocumented features, let's go and
find them! :)

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Re: The keyboard shortcuts list

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'Lo Peter,

On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:51:26 +0100 your time, you said:

PM CTRL + - works for closing, AFAIK... :-)

No,  that just closes a *single* expanded thread, not *all* expanded threads
in folder :-)

To completely expand *all* threads in a folder you need to select any thread
in  the  folder  and  hit  Ctrl+*  and  to completely close all the expanded
threads you need to select any thread and hit Ctrl+Shift+*

Perhaps  I'll have as much fun looking for undocumented features in TB! as I
did  years ago on my old MacII .. but there again perhaps not ;-) - it would
have  been beneficial to have had a few extra elongated fingers on each hand
to use some of those old Mac OS shortcuts g

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Re: The keyboard shortcuts list

[Scott Johnson]

Simon,

*** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === ***
Sunday, December 1, 2002, 11:32:37 AM, you wrote:

S 'Lo Chiropter Operators,

S  Is  anyone  currently maintaining the keyboard shortcuts list now? I notice
S  that on Marck's site the English text version hasn't been updated since The
S  Bat! V.1.38e and the HTML version was last updated on June 22, 2001.


I didn't even know there was a ketboard shortcut list anywhere...  To
help out the newbies here (like me!) could people please post URLs
when writing about a site?

Thanks.

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keyboard shortcuts (was: Column Headings - Managing for All Folders)

[Michael L. Cusac]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Chris Montgomery wrote to TBUDL:

 Someone here was kind enough to give me this link last week.

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

 Great, thanks! The below URL was off a bit, but poking around I
 found this worked:
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt. The list is for
 an older version, but at least it's a good start.

I changed 'below URL' to 'above URL'  ;)

The first URL works for me, and has shortcuts for v1.60.  Clicking it
in TB!'s viewer opens my browser and takes me strait there.  If you're
using cut-and-paste, take off the angled brackets, and if you're
typing it out, make sure there's an underscore between shortcut and
eng.html.  If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.

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Re: setting keyboard shortcuts (was: setting messages display)

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Michael.

At 8:06 PM on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 you wrote the following
about [setting keyboard shortcuts (was: setting messages
display)]:

Michael [...] Today (day six of eval period) is my day to
Michael reset most of the shortcuts. Does anyone who's done
Michael a massive remapping of the shortcuts have any tips
Michael on how to do it expeditiously? [/...]

  Getting the current shortcut list might be helpful for
  reference.

  http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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list of keyboard shortcuts

[David Denton]

Hello TBUDL,

  Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? The
  documentation included with the program does not seem to be complete
  at all and I tried to find one on the TBUDL archive without success.

  Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

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Hello David,

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 08:30:29 -0500, David Denton [DD] wrote
concerning 'list of keyboard shortcuts':
...
DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!?

Yes. It's on the FAQ page. This is the direct URL:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

[Raj]

David,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, at 08:30:29 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:00 PM where I live) you
wrote:

DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!? 

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello Raj,

21 Jan 2002, 3:07:42 pm, you wrote to TBUDL:

DD Is there a complete list of keyboard shortcuts for The Bat!?

R http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and
only unread messages, but that does not excist?

  

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Re[2]: list of keyboard shortcuts

[Jernej Simoni]

Hello Ottar,

21. januar 2002, 18:58:22, you wrote:

OG I would like a shortcut for changing between display all messages and
OG only unread messages, but that does not excist?

 As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define a
 shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll
 probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it
 conflicts with Expand whole thread shortcut)

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Re: list of keyboard shortcuts

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello Jernej,

21 Jan 2002, 9:11:45 pm, you wrote to TBUDL:

JS  As you're using 1.54 beta, go to View-Edit shortcuts, and define
JS  a shortcut for Main Menu-View-Display-Unread only (and you'll
JS  probably want to change the Display-All shortcut, too, as it
JS  conflicts with Expand whole thread shortcut)

  That was really nice!! :-)

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Keyboard shortcuts

[Carren Stuart]

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Hello,

I am looking at the file on the FAQs page for keyboard shortcuts for
version 1.52f. Some of these seem to work with version 1.53d which I
am using, but others don't.

Is there an updated shortcut list anywhere for the latest versions or
is it just me that some of them refuse to work for?

Many thanks,


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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Sebastian]

CS Is there an updated shortcut list anywhere for the latest versions or
CS is it just me that some of them refuse to work for?


Can you give some examples that DON'T work with 1.53d according to
you?


Sebastian. :)


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Keyboard shortcuts

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  Just to remind us: We definitely, urgently need a compiled list of
  all keyboard shortcuts within TB!.

  I just tried to send mail from all accounts by hitting
  Ctrl+Shift+F2 and only got a mail check for the active
  account. When I searched the menus - first I only looked in the
  Account menu - I found

  a) Shift+F2 for sending mail (in Account menu) as I knew
  b) Shift+Alt+F2 for sending mail from all accounts (in
  Tools menu)

  This is neither very logical nor easy to find. It was pure hard
  headedness on my side that I looked further than in the Account
  menu.

  BTW, I don't find it very logical either to find keyboard shortcuts
  in the menus regardless of the application. when I am as far as
  having touched the mouse to go to the menu I don't need the shortcut
  anymore, I just use the menu item.


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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Tim Musson]

Hey Dierk,

Monday, June 18, 2001, 9:58:46 AM, you wrote:

DH   Just to remind us: We definitely, urgently need a compiled list
DH   of all keyboard shortcuts within TB!.

Are you looking for something other than the following link?
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

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Hello Tim!

On Monday, June 18, 2001 at 5:10:47 PM you wrote:

 Are you looking for something other than the following link?
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

1. Had a look at the version it is for?

2. Not quite. I am strongly convinced that such a list belongs into
the programme itself - either in the Help file or (better still) as
its own list directly accessible through a menu or shortcut.



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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Silviu Cojocaru]

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Monday, June 18, 2001, 4:58:46 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Just to remind us: We definitely, urgently need a compiled
 list of all keyboard shortcuts within TB!.

:))

How about we definitely, urgently need a way to define shortcuts
in TB! ?

;)

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Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts

[Tim Musson]

Hey Dierk,

Monday, June 18, 2001, 11:30:52 AM, you wrote:

 Are you looking for something other than the following link?
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

DH 1. Had a look at the version it is for?

Yes, but as far as I know it is still valid.

DH 2. Not quite. I am strongly convinced that such a list belongs into
DH the programme itself - either in the Help file or (better still) as
DH its own list directly accessible through a menu or shortcut.

I agree with you completely there!  Not that I have seen that type of
thing all that often... g

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:58:46 +0200, Dierk wrote these comments:
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DH BTW, I don't find it very logical either to find keyboard shortcuts in
DH the menus regardless of the application. when I am as far as having
DH touched the mouse to go to the menu I don't need the shortcut anymore,
DH I just use the menu item.

If it's not made optional, as I see with some apps, please leave it as it
is. It's a nice way of being reminded what the keyboard shortcuts are. I
prefer that any day to having to take to the help files to find out what
the keyboard shortcut for task x is.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

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Hello Silviu!

On Monday, June 18, 2001 at 4:39:33 PM you wrote:


 How about we definitely, urgently need a way to define shortcuts
 in TB! ?

Perfect, but we already know that that will come with v2, which is at
best elusive. For 1.xx we need a good list in the programme. ;-)



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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Allie!

On Monday, June 18, 2001 at 5:49:54 PM you wrote:

 If it's not made optional, as I see with some apps, please leave it as it
 is. It's a nice way of being reminded what the keyboard shortcuts are. I
 prefer that any day to having to take to the help files to find out what
 the keyboard shortcut for task x is.

No problem here. for once the implementation of MS Word is not that
bad, you can switch them on and off in the menus.



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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Allie,

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:01:18 -0500GMT (22/09/2000, 05:01 +0800GMT),
A . Curtis Martin wrote:

ACM For everyone, especially newbies who may feel shy or intimidated:

ACM *Please*, despite any negative impressions the veterans may give, always
ACM feel free to voice your opinions as you like.

Yeah! Go ahead! Give us something to (... thought I just heard a trout
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Ming-Li]

On Thursday, September 21, 2000, 7:07:19 AM, Nick wrote:

M Q: why can't I use proportional fonts? why can't I send html
M mail? A: what a stupid request, you're unfit to be a parent (uh,
M to use email, I mean), go back to LookOut... blah, blah, blah.

 These type of questions have to do with fluff.  Power users
 despise fluff.  Mention you want to fluffisize their program and
 the hair on the back of their necks stands up.  They arch their
 backs and start hissing.  They start spewing words faster than
 they can type 'em. They see low income housing being built in
 their nice little neighborhood and it's a call to arms for them.

I always buy books in paperback wherever possible. Hardcover, for
me, is fluff. However, a librarian, among others, would surely
disagree with me. One man's fluff might be another's necessity.
People may prefer proportional fonts for aesthetical reason (which,
IMHO, is not a bad reason as some people here think), or maybe they
just happen to have smaller monitor.

More importantly, it's about attitude. I've always thought that we
will have a better chance winning people over through good
reasoning, not intimidation.

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