Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello MFPA, On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 11:00:39 PM, in M mid:795717349.20131121170...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: In my case key folders got relocated without my knowledge. Thanks to Miguel and MFPA I knew *what* to look for and where they were supposed to be. Once I found them (elsewhere in the TB *program* folder) and put them back where they belonged, everything worked again. M It would make more sense to me these days if the Rogues were located M under the mail folder instead of the program folder. I tend to expect M program folders to remain unchanged except at install or upgrade time. I can see your point. However, there could be exceptions. My MAIL folder is in my DOCUMENTS folder. This makes no sense to me. I would prefer to have files/folders indigenous to TB contained in the program folder because that's where I would look for them. I would never have thought to look in my DOCUMENTS folder for the MAIL folder. Speaking of convoluted, I just noticed that if I save a draft or save the final message, if I re-open it to continue editing, it has defaulted to HTML instead of the Plain Text in which it was originally written. If I don't catch it, the message never gets sent to the list because it's HTML. Most annoying. M I take it you usually compose HTML but use plaintext for your TBUDL M messages. I rarely use HTML in email, so don't see that problem. Correspondence with this list is very limited so yes, I do usually compose in HTML. I have a %SetEditor=1% macro in my AB New Message template for this list. M But I do find that saving a message as draft and then re-opening it to M continue editing causes TB! to forget settings to sign or encrypt the M message, which occasionally leads to sending messages in the clear M that should have been encrypted. Sounds like these bugs may be related. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Tuesday 26 November 2013 at 2:40:51 PM, in mid:1828685907.20131126084...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I can see your point. However, there could be exceptions. My MAIL folder is in my DOCUMENTS folder. This makes no sense to me. That's just the default; you can put it where you want. It makes sense to me, at least as the location for the files containing the actual emails: I think of emails as being documents in much the same way as (most) files created in word or excel are documents. (Even so, I have my mail folder on a partition of its own.) For configuration files containing various settings it makes much less sense to me. Maybe there should be further fragmentation, and such files could live in a location under Application Data. But are things like templates and the address books (for example) documents or settings? My Documents and Application Data both sit somewhere under Documents and Settings on my Windows version (XP)... I would prefer to have files/folders indigenous to TB contained in the program folder because that's where I would look for them. Yes, the way they used to do things was much simpler. But with Administrator and User accounts in XP, the user may be running TB! under an account that doesn't have write access in the Program Files directory. Sounds like these bugs may be related. I wondered about that possibility. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Monday 25 November 2013 at 9:54:10 AM, in mid:367455330.20131125095...@silverstones.com, Marck Pearlstone wrote: While it is true that Leif has moved on from TB and the discussion lists, the roguemoticons site is still up and running. I am still an admin on the approval of new additions and updates to pictures. There may be a couple of bugs on the server side code and I pretty sure that Leif would dive in and fix the code if asked nicely. [snipped] I have been auto-summoned by the site to approve picture updates once in a while. I can't tell if the approval process has worked though. I have not tried to change mine; Jack S. LaRosa mentioned earlier in this thread that his Roguemoticon image remains the same after several attempts to update it, and that he emailed Lief about it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Wait. You think I'm right? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Dear Mfpa, @25-Nov-2013, 02:05 MFPA [M] in mid:1263609032.20131125020536@my_localhost said to Rick: ... snip essentially, it no one is keeping it updated, M I suspect Leif would be willing to allow somebody else to take it on, M if somebody came forward with the time, inclination, and skills. M If I recall correctly, Marck D Pearlstone and 9val previously were M also involved with Roguemoticons. While it is true that Leif has moved on from TB and the discussion lists, the roguemoticons site is still up and running. I am still an admin on the approval of new additions and updates to pictures. There may be a couple of bugs on the server side code and I pretty sure that Leif would dive in and fix the code if asked nicely. I wonder why Ritlabs keeps the (broken) feature in the program M As far as I know, the only part of the feature that is not currently M working is the ability to add or replace images. And that function is M part of the website where they are hosted, not part of The Bat!. I have been auto-summoned by the site to approve picture updates once in a while. I can't tell if the approval process has worked though. ... snip -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v6.0.6.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpW6zgSjXGu1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 11:00:39 PM, in mid:795717349.20131121170...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: In my case key folders got relocated without my knowledge. Thanks to Miguel and MFPA I knew *what* to look for and where they were supposed to be. Once I found them (elsewhere in the TB *program* folder) and put them back where they belonged, everything worked again. It would make more sense to me these days if the Rogues were located under the mail folder instead of the program folder. I tend to expect program folders to remain unchanged except at install or upgrade time. Speaking of convoluted, I just noticed that if I save a draft or save the final message, if I re-open it to continue editing, it has defaulted to HTML instead of the Plain Text in which it was originally written. If I don't catch it, the message never gets sent to the list because it's HTML. Most annoying. I take it you usually compose HTML but use plaintext for your TBUDL messages. I rarely use HTML in email, so don't see that problem. But I do find that saving a message as draft and then re-opening it to continue editing causes TB! to forget settings to sign or encrypt the message, which occasionally leads to sending messages in the clear that should have been encrypted. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello Rick, On Thursday, November 21, 2013 you wrote: R I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. I wouldn't blame R Ritlabs if they removed it - no sense in releasing a program with a program R feature that CANNOT be fixed. I don't know that it CANNOT be fixed unless it's the Obamacare website. In my case key folders got relocated without my knowledge. Thanks to Miguel and MFPA I knew *what* to look for and where they were supposed to be. Once I found them (elsewhere in the TB *program* folder) and put them back where they belonged, everything worked again. I remember when this happened to me last time it was solved because I finally realized that my Rogue's folder was buried in the *parent* Rogues folder. The Bat didn't know to look any deeper than the parent Rogue's folder for the images. R They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the R same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) Surely you don't have every Rogue's address and picture in your address book. I've never tried that and so can't imagine why you're getting black spaces where the photo should be. I can only assume that to give TB the versatility that it has then it has to be as convoluted as it is unfortunately. Speaking of convoluted, I just noticed that if I save a draft or save the final message, if I re-open it to continue editing, it has defaulted to HTML instead of the Plain Text in which it was originally written. If I don't catch it, the message never gets sent to the list because it's HTML. Most annoying. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi Rick On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 6:54:26 PM, you wrote: I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. They certainly have a limited and not-increasing userbase (of about 150). But that is partly down to not being publicised, as well as being unsupported by any other mailer or newsreader (as far as I know). I wouldn't blame Ritlabs if they removed it Supporting something like the Face header [1][2] would perhaps make more sense, as it is not limited to one piece of software that supports it. - no sense in releasing a program with a program feature that CANNOT be fixed. Rogues probably could be fixed, if the feature was broken. But I've not heard anybody claim it was. They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) If you mean display the photo from the addressbook entry (if present) in the same place as the rogue photo, I'm fairly sure that worked when I started using TB! at v2 - and you can select which takes precedence. I would also like the option to display there the photo from an OpenPGP key (if the incoming message was signed using an OpenPGP key that contains a photo). [1] http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/ [2] http://www.manitou-mail.org/blog/2009/10/face-header-support/ -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Look, it's a hat! It's not going to hurt you. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, November 21, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 20 November 2013 at 1:20:38 AM, in M mid:93269535.20131119192...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: So, once again my profound thanks to you and Miguel for all the help. Nice to see you both again. M Glad to help. M Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you M mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or M updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in M 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still M contains the same photo of you. Exactly. It still doesn't work. I emailed Leif back in May and he replied thusly: I'll take a look at it. I wrote that code eons ago and its been static through numerous server upgrades and migrations. I copied that same email from Leif and emailed it to him yesterday and he replied again: I'll look at it. It's been through a couple server moves and I probably missed a dependency with it. So, I dunno. Have to wait and see I guess. I too have notifications of new rogue photos ticked and I can't remember the last time I got one except for my own yesterday. Have they fallen out of favor I wonder? I also sent Mary Bull a gif of the Alabama state flag for approval and I'm waiting to hear from her. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
M Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you M mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or M updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in M 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still M contains the same photo of you. I think Roguemoticons are dead for all practical purposes. I wouldn't blame Ritlabs if they removed it - no sense in releasing a program with a program feature that CANNOT be fixed. They could easily take pictures out of the address book and put them in the same place (which it does but I am getting black spaces in v6) -- Rick Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration Abraham Lincoln - 1st Inaugural Address v6.0.4.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
On 11/19/2013 you wrote: Neither the text file pcwsmileys.msl nor the folder pcwimages exist anywhere on my computer. CANCEL RED ALERT! File/folder found! I have a program called SEARCH EVERYTHING (http://www.voidtools.com/) which will find anything you type in it's search bar (I thought). Using that program showed me that the two files above didn't exist, but of course, they did. I don't know why the program failed to find them but they were buried where they shouldn't have been within The Bat! AHA! You may have provided a key to my troubles. I ran these searches just now - I don't have your utility, but I didfind a club big enough to force WinDoze to search subfolders. No joy. WinDoze is quite certain those files don't exist anywhere in the file structure. I'm not altogether convinced, but I'm not sure how much more time I can give this thing. Now I'm wondering whether the fact that TB! is installed to my work drive, not to c:\windows\programfilesx86 might be the problem. I've been running it off the work partition for at least several releases, so it didn't occur to me that that could be causing issues. If so, I'm thinking it might be better to reinstall to the conventional folder. Otherwise, it looks like I'm going to have to abandon TB!, because it really has become unusable here, with no filters and no view pane. I have to load every mail just to id it - lots of list mail, and it takes as long to load a 'me too' message as an informative one. It's also decided not to bother with sig files, except in this isp account. Not mission critical, but more time wasted pasting them in manually. Or, I might load Voyager to a 16G thumb drive ... I do have the dl, but I haven't found the list messages very encouraging, so I haven't done anything with it. Getting pretty desperate ... but I'm not willing to give up the computer yet. But you know ... email is key! Cheers! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 1 IMAP, 7 POP accounts Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Thursday 21 November 2013 at 5:37:04 PM, in mid:1325241372.20131121113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I too have notifications of new rogue photos ticked and I can't remember the last time I got one except for my own yesterday. Yours on 18/05/2013, 05/06/2012, 28/05/2012, 27/05/2012 Rick Grunwald on 27/05/2012 Jens Franik on 16/12/2010 Dierk Haasis on 16/12/2010 Patrick Linskey on 21/07/2010 Spike Jones on 29/04/2010 Spike's and Dierk's photos are present in the rogues.zip download and their handles are present in the rogues.msl file. Jen's handle is in the .msl file but no photo present. Patrick and Rick absent on both counts. Have they fallen out of favor I wonder? When was the last time you saw anybody promote them? I also sent Mary Bull a gif of the Alabama state flag for approval and I'm waiting to hear from her. I've not seen any postings from Mary in a long time. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The problem is not that we're paranoid; it's that we're not paranoid enough. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Wednesday 20 November 2013 at 1:20:38 AM, in mid:93269535.20131119192...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: So, once again my profound thanks to you and Miguel for all the help. Nice to see you both again. Glad to help. Did you ever follow up on updating your Rogues photo, which you mentioned in May last year? I had another Someone new has joined or updated their image on Roguemoticons email today (which makes five in 18 months) saying you had joined or updated, but the zip file still contains the same photo of you. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Beware the deadly donkey falling slowly from the sky Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello MFPA, On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Monday 18 November 2013 at 6:03:03 PM, in M mid:1746596024.20131118120...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: If I send myself a message containing :-) it DOES show up as a smiley face. However, if I send myself a message containing :banana: it simply shows up as COLONbananaCOLON. I think this corresponds to my no longer seeing country flags in others messages. M So basic smileys like :-) work for you, but pcwsmileys like :banana: M don't. Correct. M Does your %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images folder contain a text file M called pcwsmileys.msl as well as a folder called pcwimages (and M does that folder called pcwimages contain banana.sml.gif and over M 500 other image files)? Neither the text file pcwsmileys.msl nor the folder pcwimages exist anywhere on my computer. CANCEL RED ALERT! File/folder found! I have a program called SEARCH EVERYTHING (http://www.voidtools.com/) which will find anything you type in it's search bar (I thought). Using that program showed me that the two files above didn't exist, but of course, they did. I don't know why the program failed to find them but they were buried where they shouldn't have been within The Bat! In searching the web for references to this problem I found some old correspondence from Miguel where he lists the files/folders which should be in TB's Images folder. As a last-ditch effort I searched around my TB folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86) and opened every folder in there. Lo and behold, there they were. Moving them to the IMAGES folder solved everything. How they got moved in the first place I have no idea except that I vaguely remember the problem starting after my last TB upgrade. So, once again my profound thanks to you and Miguel for all the help. Nice to see you both again. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hello TBUD Listers, Well, it's happened again. Several months ago (after a TB upgrade IIRC) roguemoticons and smileys stopped working. This failure has finally reached the point of annoyance where I feel the need to do something about it. I scoured the archives for about an hour looking for past correspondence (including my own) relating to this problem as I had this same problem in the past. I've confirmed settings mentioned in the archives but still no luck. If I send myself a message containing :-) it DOES show up as a smiley face. However, if I send myself a message containing :banana: it simply shows up as COLONbananaCOLON. I think this corresponds to my no longer seeing country flags in others messages. Additionally, roguemoticons refuse to appear when it is obvious that the sender has included his/her X-rouge jpg. My ROGUES folder is contained here: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\Images\Rogues and the ROGUES folder does contain images. In a previous message Miguel (MAU) was kind enough to send these links to TB settings for all this stuff: mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com but I don't know how to access the links. So, I tried everything I could think of so that I wouldn't have to bother the list again but... well, you know. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons/Smileys
Hi On Monday 18 November 2013 at 6:03:03 PM, in mid:1746596024.20131118120...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: If I send myself a message containing :-) it DOES show up as a smiley face. However, if I send myself a message containing :banana: it simply shows up as COLONbananaCOLON. I think this corresponds to my no longer seeing country flags in others messages. So basic smileys like :-) work for you, but pcwsmileys like :banana: don't. Does your %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images folder contain a text file called pcwsmileys.msl as well as a folder called pcwimages (and does that folder called pcwimages contain banana.sml.gif and over 500 other image files)? Additionally, roguemoticons refuse to appear when it is obvious that the sender has included his/her X-rouge jpg. My ROGUES folder is contained here: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\Images\Rogues and the ROGUES folder does contain images. Does the Images folder contain the rogues.msl file as well as containing the Rogues folder? There's not an extra level of folders like last year? (See mid:1391391137.20120605095...@charter.net) From right-clicking the message headers, hovering over Sender Photo in the context menu, is there a tick by Display sender and no tick by Prefer photo from Address Book? (I know you said you already checked, but are you sure?) In a previous message Miguel (MAU) was kind enough to send these links to TB settings for all this stuff: mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com but I don't know how to access the links. Those are links to messages on TBUDL from late May 2012, with some of the numbers replaced by dots. The full message-ids are:- mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com Just click (or maybe double-click) and the message will open, if TB! can find it. So, I tried everything I could think of so that I wouldn't have to bother the list again but... well, you know. And I've not suggested anything that was not in the archives from last year. Rogues and pcwsmileys not working when basic smileys being fine would suggest to look carefully at the contents of your %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images folder before ploughing too deeply into settings. Of course, I may be talking complete rubbish. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hello Peter, On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:33:32 +0100 GMT (12/02/2007, 01:33 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM [RegKey left by Voyager] As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. Gr So, I should use regedit, search for Voyager and delete the key? PM In principle, yes. I automate it with a batch file for exiting Voyager PM which also deletes the reg key. Please (re-)send the contents of this batch file. -- Cheers, Thomas. Andreas Moeller (Schalke 04): Ich hatte vom Feeling her ein gutes Gefuehl. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Gmail_mcristina.ramos, I don't consider this off topic, so I crosspost my reply to TBUDL. :) On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:47:54 +GMT you wrote on TBOT: Gr I guess this is a repeated question, but can anyone tell me whether Gr we can use Rogues and Smileys in Voyager. Sure we can! :)) Just make sure to have your Images folder with the Rogues and Smileys copied to the Voyager directory on the stick, and it will work as with The Bat!. But there are two things you should keep in mind: Have an eye on the global.ini file in the Voyager directory. It adds lines about the MSL files for every time you start Voyager. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6167 Depending on your USB stick's capacity, it might be worthwhile to delete the superfluous lines. (I'm using Voyager on a 128MB stick...) And in case you open a message editor, it adds an entry to the registry of the host machine. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. -- Cheers Peter Oh Lord, give me patience. But give it to me RIGHT BLOODY NOW! Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Peter, On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, at 17:51:49 [GMT +0100] (which was 16:51 where I live) you wrote: Sure we can! :)) Just make sure to have your Images folder with the Rogues and Smileys copied to the Voyager directory on the stick, and it will work as with The Bat!. Done As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. So, I should use regedit, search for Voyager and delete the key? Hmmm... Sometimes that might not be possible. For example, when using my work (school) computers I don't have Administrator's privileges, so I don't think I can edit the Registry. Thanks for your answer. -- Cristina in Lisboa, Portugal :cristina: Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues and Smileys in Voyager
Hi Cristina, on Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:07:50 +GMT (11.02.2007, 19:07 +0100GMT here), you wrote: [RegKey left by Voyager] As a matter of courtesy, I prefer to delete this key after using a friend's computer. Gr So, I should use regedit, search for Voyager and delete the key? In principle, yes. I automate it with a batch file for exiting Voyager which also deletes the reg key. Gr Hmmm... Sometimes that might not be possible. For example, when using Gr my work (school) computers I don't have Administrator's privileges, so Gr I don't think I can edit the Registry. If Voyager can't write to the registry there is no need for cleaning up. :) -- Cheers Peter 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello George! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:38 PM, you wrote: ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles bold etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. Smileys are working for me now, in v. 3.96.03 (BETA). The developers announced when they began offering beta versions 3.96.xx for testing that they were proceeding toward a release, when all the showstopping problems have been cleaned up. So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display malfunction. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Mary Bull wrote: MB So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps MB function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display MB malfunction. I was waiting for them to fix the crash on exit before I tried the latest beta. I grabbed it last night and the images do indeed work again. Unfortunately, I just had a crash on exit so I'll probably go back to the version I was on before. My unattended backup process shuts down TB! and a crash on exit would likely mess that process up. -- George Using The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:39:54 PM, you wrote: Snip They do for me too. MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Alexander S. Kunz schrieb: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes they are indeed. One from the MSI with the normal splash screen and smileys disabled, and one from the last beta RAR with the Christmas screen and smileys working. As a matter of fact, both show 3.95.8 as the version number, lacking the zero... -- Cheers Peter Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58 AM, you wrote to Stuart Cuddy: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. There is obviously something in the code of msi 3.95.08 that causes so many of us to have non-functioning Smileys. Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 From his January 24 post at TBBETA: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Well, I believe him. Because this msi install has given you the Smileys+Christmas Splash Screen and me and a bunch of others the Regular Splash Screen+No Smileys. So, if on one of his machines he did what you did with the original Smiley install back in v. 2.xx, and on the other he did what I did with that original Smiley install when I got v. 2.06 (or something like that I seem to remember--it was so I could see the :42: that Leif made for me). So, it's logical to me that it could happen that way. And besides, Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. Thats odd, as I *did* install the MSI (control panel/arp shows TB version 3.95.08), but I still see the xmas splash screen. Yes. Maxim definitely needs to have a look at this, I think. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? I ain't not making no clean install ma'am if it breaks me smilies! ;-) :kiss: :bearhug: BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: I saw the screenshot before, yes. Okay. So you know what I'm ticked off about. ;) But I reckon the answer is :42: :purpletimemachine: h2g2 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:27:15 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But thats not what Stuart wrote. :-P He said he installed the MSI on two machines, one showing the xmas splash, the other one not. I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. Perhaps he has done something like that and forgotten. My smilys seem healthy everywhere. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58:57 AM, you wrote: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. ASK And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes. The xmas edition is on this computer running Windows 2000 and the bad smiley version is on XP. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47:16 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Now that I think about it I believe, but I'm not really sure, that I installed the 3.95.08 exe file first and then the msi on the machine that smilies are not working on and skipped the exe on the machine where they are working. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:18:34 PM, you wrote: Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) :'( Who's spreading this vicious rumor. :/ -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Stuart, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:57:22 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 14:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm SC Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. Yes. SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. Was that the same .msi? -- Groetjes, Roelof IBM: I've Been Misled http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfGe2yMFOsd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:14:32 PM, you wrote: SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. RO Was that the same .msi? As far as I know. It was the link in the same e-mail, unless they change what it linked to. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 00:19 you (George Mitchell) wrote: I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that broke. ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles *bold* etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 at 14:28:45 -0600, Dwight wrote: I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:40:14 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 19:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep MB functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original MB Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. MB Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of MB us are experiencing. So I uninstalled TB and installed it again from the msi. Still no boxed smileys. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLzrE2WdYGv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:42:53 PM, Robin Anson wrote: By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, no or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? yes. I don't remember how it all works, back in the middle of 2005 there was discussion on some bat list about alternate ions, and I fiddled around with some, and used a set called minimal for a while. I dumped them but never changed the splash, known in my tb folder as 'splash.png' back. I don't recall, but I think that it must be batlogo.xml which loads the splash screen. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:30:05 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 14:30 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote: But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them. Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version? Think about it and revert to a version with smileys :) MB Good suggestion. MB However, I'm still beta testing, even though, for personal reasons, I MB am no longer posting on TBBETA. MB So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and MB pics in The Bat!/Images feature. MB And I think I am not alone in this. No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work well. :)) MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 12:27 PM, you wrote: MB ... I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons MB and pics in The Bat!/Images feature. MB And I think I am not alone in this. No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work well. :)) Then I am going back. I may not beta test any more until the developers announce that they have put the .msl function back into the code. MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the developers. Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:39:31 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 19:39 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: MB Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) MB And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.95.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:06 PM, you wrote: MB ... Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) I am going to file a bug report. Reason: Alexander S. Kunz tried to post to this thread, but it didn't come through for some reason, so he sent me a PM. Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only the .exe. Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually. The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him. My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Maxim has evidently not understood this, from the discussions that I read on TBBETA. If he doesn't get alerted, the situation could continue right on through the next release. I'm going to file a bug report now. Stay tuned. I'll be back with a new thread here, afterward. MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) :bearhug: I feel better already. Thanks, Peter. And thanks, Alex! :) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B :thumbup: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys! Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter and Everyone Else Interested in Proper Display of Smileys! Please support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time. Sorry. My bad. :( -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote: Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it. Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where it's coming from. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use :gdr: Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Sir, you have a collective call from Borg, will you accept the charges? Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:55:21 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 20:55 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject MB line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire MB to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time. MB Sorry. My bad. :( I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it... :lol: -- Cheers Peter Lottery: a tax on people who don't understand statistics. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:58 PM, you wrote: Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it. Always so courteous. :) Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where it's coming from. ... Haven't heard that, but if so it could be related. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use :gdr: It's displayed as gdr (with the colons) and a rectangular box around it. Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT collection. It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:19:05 PM, you wrote: It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Somewhere hidden in this message there is a hidden message. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BugTracker issue report on msi v.3.95.08 display of Smileys
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:02 PM, you wrote: MB P.S. Peter, please forgive my misspelling of your name in the subject MB line of my first post in this thread. Was struggling with TB!'s desire MB to over-ride my addressing in the To: field and messed up big time. MB Sorry. My bad. :( I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it... :lol: You're always so kind! Anyway, thanks for the supporting note at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 Much appreciaated! :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:40 PM, you wrote: It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin Leif, when you get time, could you do a complete msi install of this, over the version you're presently running: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-08.msi Just to test. Afterwards, perhaps you would have time to put a support note at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 Would be much appreciated and rate a :kiss: or a :bearhug: from me and maybe from Charlene. grin It's from tbbeta mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The changes mentioned relate to Windows Vista Manager, to label placement in the SMTP authentication dialogue, and a larger window for the installation wizard. That's it. Not a word about Smileys or tags. So, I think something else inadvertently got done in writing the msi version. Thanks a mil! -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Mary Bull wrote: Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? MB None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT MB collection. MB It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. I think that's it exactly. My guess would be that smileys breaking is the result of a half-finished feature. I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that broke. If Ritlabs is really working on enabling selected external image links, perhaps smileys will resume working when they're done. Strange they've been silent on this topic. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Mary, On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:23:11 -0600GMT (25-1-2007, 20:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only MB the .exe. I chose the full install MB Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually. I didn't do that MB The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him. They do for me too. MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDEgbHcC0na.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Bob, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:27:34 +1000 GMT (24/12/2005, 07:27 +0700 GMT), Bob Morris wrote: BM It is already included in the new help file - under the heading BM Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for BM emoticons. I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer version? BM Current version is 3.62.14 Marck must be on vacation. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Why is it that when you're driving and looking for an address, you turn down the volume on the radio ? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:56:10 +0700GMT (24-12-2005, 12:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM Current version is 3.62.14 TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) And Leif and me asleep. -- Groetjes, Roelof Function call to load Windows: here_piggy_piggy_piggy_piggy The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7FZt7WCILG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:56:10 +0700GMT (24-12-2005, 12:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM It is already included in the new help file - under the heading BM Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for BM emoticons. TF I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay TF result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer TF version? Well, that's the version I'm using and I could find it too, while searching for 'emoticons' But you can find it via contents too: Advanced Use - Roguemoticons and PCSmileys -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacate (I came, I saw, I left) The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpg8hlvdjJ0P.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:08:49 +0100 GMT (24/12/2005, 19:08 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Well, that's the version I'm using and I could find it too, while RO searching for 'emoticons' RO But you can find it via contents too: RO Advanced Use - Roguemoticons and PCSmileys Yes, there it is! Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ein Drittel aller Kinder wird nach dem 30. Lebensjahr geboren. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Dear Thomas, @24-Dec-2005, 18:56 +0700 (24-Dec 11:56 here) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bob: TF I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay TF result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer TF version? BM Current version is 3.62.14 TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) No, but had completely forgotten about it!! Thanks for the heads up, guys. And thanks to Roelof for doing the job! ;-) -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgphCPG1Igynb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Marck, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:54:34 + GMT (24/12/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) MDP No, but had completely forgotten about it!! Thanks for the heads up, MDP guys. You mean there a more important things in the world? confused -- Cheers, Thomas. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys
Hello tbudl, I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl Can't think of anything else. Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. -- Best regards, Mary PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Howdy Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 3:42:31 PM, Mary wrotened: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Mary Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're Mary focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is Mary not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Mary Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images Mary and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Mary Default Mary pcwimages Mary rogues Mary default.msl Mary pcwsmileys.msl Mary rogues.msl Mary Can't think of anything else. Mary Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the Mary new Help File. Mary Perhaps that can be remedied next year. In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM You know, I think the sun may be the biggest thing in the world. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Ben! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:50 AM, you wrote: In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. Well, that's what being sure Use Plain Text Viewer isn't ticked in the right-click (context) menu will ensure. It can also be set in Options/Preferences, of course, and the Smiley box ticked in that window. And, of course, since MicroEd is a plain-text editor, Smiley icons are never visible in the Edit Mail Message window, using MicroEd. -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:42:31 AM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're MB focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is MB not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:24 PM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while MB you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain MB Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* MB ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) I'm going to make a QT of what I posted to you and include a Smiley in it. ;) Thanks for the tip. :thankyou: You're not the first and won't be the last to forget what to do to implement the Smiley icons. In fact, every time I get the question--and I get this PM as well as on-lists, because of my role as Trill, Keeper of the Smileys--I have to think carefully about all the ways I've seen it go wrong in the past. Glad what I said to you was clear and useful. :) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: To you, too! To you, too! :batbeer: -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
G'day Mary, Saturday, December 24, 2005, 1:42:31 AM, you wrote: Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Bob, Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Bob! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27 PM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Thank you so very much. I am greatly relieved, as I did feel that it should have been included--I saw it in the draft that was made available to the TBBETA list last spring. :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:29 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. Probably a simple change in the text, making Smileys a stand-alone word would do it. One of us can bring it up on TBBETA in January. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Sometimes (and that refers currently only to some messages on TBOT), I switch to the RTV in order to see the smileys How sad. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.51.9 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter, On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:41:53 +0200 GMT (31/07/2005, 14:41 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: TF Where do I set Smileys on as default in the RTV? PH Check Options/Preferences/ViewerEditor - Use smiley icons in HTML viewer Thanks, it did the trick. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys
Hello TBUDL, I usually use the PTV. Sometimes (and that refers currently only to some messages on TBOT), I switch to the RTV in order to see the smileys. I do this by right-clicking in the message body. Every time now I have to choose the RTV *and then* I have to choose Smileys, because they're off by default. I know that in earlier TB versions the default was on (at least on my computer). I was looking for a setting under Options / Preferences, but couldn't find it. Where do I set Smileys on as default in the RTV? -- Best regards, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Friday, April 29, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) Nay. It's a different woman and a different song. (-: [Has nothing with the saying. Although it *resembles* a tiny bit it. I don't quite follow you? To which lady did you refer? (This is getting OT so I'll CC to TBOT) snip You anyway have good tags lately. Thanks for amusement! Your welcome. Actually, I haven't updated my cookie-file for ages. It seems that as the version number of TB! increases the random generator gets more adept in picking the good ones. -- Urban Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: Tee hee, Brutus. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Urban, On 28 April 2005, 22:45 you wrote: But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding character). If we change the regexp from Martin to ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note the spaces around the first *.*) you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most definitely is not the same thing as *.* (Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to make up my own examples). I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each renders correctly. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We are born princes, and the civilizing process makes us into frogs. ERIC BERNE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Friday, April 29, 2005, Martin Webster on tbudl wrote: I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each renders correctly. If there is no problem, then even I can think it would be a good idea. Since I don't have Thunderbird installed, could you check if the different regexps come through correctly if you cp them into the editor? -- Urban You know it's time to shave your legs when the cat uses them for scratching behind its ears. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban, On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:46:20 +0200 GMT (29/04/2005, 04:46 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. U Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, meaning that when a team was down a few points, it didn't matter, because the game wasn't over yet. F'up2TBOT. -- Cheers, Thomas. Heut debug ich, morgen brows ich, uebermorgen cast ich die Koenigin auf int. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Friday 29 April 2005 at 4:15:54 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, I always thought that saying was related to opera. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Thomas, No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, meaning that when a team was down a few points, it didn't matter, because the game wasn't over yet. Google doesn't agree with you. See for example: http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/4-24-01askeds.html -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.20 Return Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fat lady (was: Smileys)
Hello rich, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:00:11 -0400 GMT (29/04/2005, 23:00 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg The quote is indeed It ain't over until the fat lady sings, but rg background given above sound like urban legend. rg I never in my life heard of anyone ever singing AFTER a game is over. Singing is quite common after European football games. That's the game where you hit the ball with the foot, a.k.a. soccer in some remote parts of the world. http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/d-f/fat.shtml OK: Basketball, not baseball, but who can tell these American sports apart? Well, the opera reference is not entirely wrong: http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/19/messages/174.html These are my choices from: http://www.google.com/search?q=fat%20lady%20sings This is OT. Are you subscribed to TBOT? -- Cheers, Thomas. Hellenolophobie: Angst vor griechischen Fachausdruecken. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
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Re[2]: Smileys
I have TB 3.0.1.33. The smileys dont work in HTML mails, the Use of smileys in the options are checked. Any idea? MM no smiley is displayed? do You have Images folder in home directory? I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 1:25:43 PM, you wrote: TBs I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it TBs show up when I am composing a HTML message? TBs My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it TBs to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? I agree with you on this. Specially with the not so standard smileys it is good to know that you have written them correctly. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Universal Laws of Golf: Your best round of golf will be followed almost immediately by your worst round ever. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello The Bat! support everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 13:25 you (The Bat! support) wrote: I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Thursday, April 28, 2005, 4:59:24 PM, you wrote: IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) sounds good to me ;-) -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/view/1024_large.shtml Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpcsX8VZVo7G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Thursday, April 28, 2005, 9:59:24 AM, you wrote: I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) My IRC client handles *this* as bold, and _this_ as underlined... I quite like it, though not many people understand it when they use outlook, and can very easily hit the [B] or the [U] buttons ;) My IRC client doesn't support /italics/ though, it is ran in a terminal, no slanting there ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpfBAZqtAanX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. -- Urban A virtuoso is a musician with real high morals. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote: ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 1:25:43 PM, you wrote: TBs My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it TBs to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? I agree with you on this. Specially with the not so standard smileys it is good to know that you have written them correctly. Sounds good to me. -- Urban If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, just imagine how serene it would be until the looting started Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban, On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:38:50 +0200 GMT (28/04/2005, 22:38 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) U Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. I disagree. I hope it will happy anytime soon. Unfortunately, there isn't a likely chance. U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. So? I don't use regexes, but I do use the TB viewers. -- Cheers, Thomas. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 17:38 you (Urban) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our increase in knowledge is comparable to that which a man, interested in learning more about the moon, gets when he climbs up on the roof of his house to get a closer look at that luminary. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Apr 2005, @ @ at 17:38:50 +0200, when Urban wrote: Ah, a new tag in the (text) block! Yum! A virtuoso is a musician with real high morals. Yeah, they like to play long, long (de)cadences, until they eventually come to/at the end. (-: In this or that way. Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 239 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCcROb9q62QPd3XuIRApESAJ9BxvhiHP5qb2BRenT0t3Q3q9x+YgCeL3gB xmrHsRGJ9NijxekpBiEujTc= =MJvZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Apr 2005, @ @ at 18:43:02 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Urban everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 17:38 you (Urban) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 239 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCcRai9q62QPd3XuIRAlvhAJ4mthV6346vQn5SKDFt9Tsl9sZlaACcDhfs 8f+kzgzmxSLAtVTouy1YUbI= =9XHA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 19:00 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? I don't understand, either. RegEx, to be precise. :-P All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Visur Vatnsenda-Rosu (with Björk) (4:21) by Hector Zazou from the album 'Chansons Des Mers Froides' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, On 28 April 2005, 18:17 you wrote: I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? I don't understand, either. RegEx, to be precise. :-P All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There can't be a crisis next week. My schedule is full. HENRY KISSINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Thursday 28 April 2005 at 4:14:47 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jurgen Haug wrote: IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. No opinion on graphical representation of smilies. One of the (less-serious) reasons I try to avoid HTML emails. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) sounds good to me ;-) Provided it is *optional*. A plain text email should (IMHO) be just that: /plain/ text. The inclusion of formatting would make it into /rich/ text. I use the PTV to avoid that. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 20:24 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote: All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Hopolot Kenym (4:59) by Hector Zazou from the album 'Sahara Blue' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Thursday 28 April 2005 at 8:51:51 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) I'm not sure Urban meant there was a problem with /italics/. My reading was, he was emphasising the word that by indicating it should be read as if italicised ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 5:38:50 PM, you wrote: U Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. If this was to be implemented it would never be possible to do in plain text and would a regex programmer use anything but a plain text editor? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? No, the slashes around that is supposed to be of the emphasis/italics kind. -- Urban It has recently been discovered that research causes cancer in rats. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) I've already answered the on /. Well it could be a problem if you wrote UNIX file paths in the form /etc/ but since people normally don't do that it is mostly a problem that exists in theory. But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding character). If we change the regexp from Martin to ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note the spaces around the first *.*) you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most definitely is not the same thing as *.* (Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to make up my own examples). -- Urban In the last scene of Pagliacci, Canio stabs Nedda who is the one he really loves. Pretty soon Silvio also gets stabbed, and they all live happily ever after. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. So? I don't use regexes, but I do use the TB viewers. Questions on regexps do pop up on the TB* lists from time to time. No wonder, since the lists are the best source for help on how to use TB! Once I hoped for a help file that match the other qualities of TB! but time has made me cynical. Therefore, I think, it would be an unfortunate thing to do since there is a possibility of confusing poor newbies more than they already are. It could turn into the old (c)-smilie-problem (remember that? Those were the days!) in miniature. -- Urban I gase at the brilliant full moon. The same one, I think to myself, at which Socrates, Aristotole and Plato gazed. Suddenly, I imagine they appear beside me. I tell Socrates about the national debate over one's right to die and wonder at the constancy of the human condition. I tell Plato that I live in the country that has come the closest to Utopia, and I show him a copy of the Constitution. I tell Aristotle that we have found many more than four basic elements and I show a periodic table. I get a box of kitchen matches and strike one. They gasp with wonder. We spend the rest of the night lighting farts. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) -- Urban No men who really think deeply about women retain a high opinion of them; men either despise women or they have never thought seriously about them. (Otto Weininger) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote: If this was to be implemented it would never be possible to do in plain text and would a regex programmer use anything but a plain text editor? He he. I've even been known to use Lynx and (yes) vi from time to time too :-) But seriously, even if you wrote using the text editor, it (probably) would influence how the text was shown in the RTV too, just like the smileys work today. -- Urban Oliver Cromwell had a large red nose, but under it were deeply religious feelings. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys
I have TB 3.0.1.33. The smileys dont work in HTML mails, the Use of smileys in the options are checked. Any idea? Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello all, Wednesday, April 27, 2005, The Bat!support wrote: I have TB 3.0.1.33. The smileys dont work in HTML mails, the Use of smileys in the options are checked. Any idea? no smiley is displayed? do You have Images folder in home directory? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
