date:20190702

Added to TW-Scripts

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:01:47 AM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> CORRECTIONS:
> permaview changed to permalink
>
> attached tid also corrected-- formatting alao fixed
>
> CORRECTED TEXT:
>
> An observation on behavior of links to tiddlers that are embedded into 
> svgs (will seem out of context till I post about svg overlays for tiddler 
> images-- still composing that while I play mad coder with other experiments 
> << >>)
> I use svg's (for map & diagrams) with links to tiddlers embedded into the 
> svg code such as
>
>  (Deprecated)
> 
>
> -- normally, full or shortened standard urls are used but "#" allows you 
> ro target individual tiddlers inside the wiki
>
> that "#tiddler title"  may cue you into what will result-- a permalink 
> link in the browser address bar.
>
> 1- the permalink url in the browser address bar will change with each 
> different svg embedded link
> 2- if you close the tiddler that gets opened, the embedded svg link will 
> not open it again while the browser address bar contains its permalink url, 
> making it look like that embedded link doesn't work any longer
> 3- if you refresh the wiki without noticing the permalink url and clearing 
> it, you will be left wondering why an unexpected tiddler displays and not 
> your default start up tiddlers
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[tw5] Re: horizontal outline/menu (for RPG & MMORPG)

Thank you for sharing!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:21:01 AM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> Here is a json file containing a good portion of the tiddlers for a 
> working copy (full 1st & 2nd columns, and 2 of potential 24 3rd column 
> displays ("Fire" tabs) and for page contents display. No plugins needed, it 
> has a simple custom stylesheet thats explained in an instructions riddler. 
> Just import the json file into a blank wiki and a sidebar tab 
> (#Empowerment) containing all files and instructions will be created. The 
> file of interest will be MASTER INDEX (vMenu)
> (#empowerments master menu), the parent/containing tiddler for all the 
> others.
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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

Thanks Mario!
 I will have a closer look and will share if I could introduce better 
solution!

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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 2:32:37 AM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
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> Hi, 
>
> You may have a closer look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionListopsWidget
>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

okay, i had trouble understanding the accent..the cat icon is on mac, but i 
did try to open the appropriate file on windows -nw.exe-- and nothing 
happens.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:31:49 PM UTC-5, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> Hey Tony, having trouble even loading/starting the tiddlydesktop app--the 
> video instruction is for MAc, and I'm in windows. there is no cat icon in 
> mine, and the only executable file with an icon in the folder is nw.exe and 
> when i click that, nothing happens. Where is the exe file to open the 
> tiddlydesktop?
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Kelli,
>>
>> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need. 
>>
>> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple 
>> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the 
>> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally 
>> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use 
>> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon 
>> field works.
>>
>> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so 
>> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you 
>> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest 
>> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on 
>> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of 
>> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here 
>> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which 
>> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log 
>> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in 
>> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and 
>> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your 
>> downloads directory.
>>
>> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself 
>> information.
>>
>> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find 
>> more resources.
>>
>> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue, 
>> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help 
>> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>>
>> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not 
>> be "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony--thanks for you helpI didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch 
>>> the backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when 
>>> you're just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
>>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will 
>>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've 
>>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that 
>>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for 
>>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days 
>>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, 
>>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to 
>>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>>
>>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
>>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
>>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
>>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>>
>>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and 
>>> renamed it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) 
>>> but those are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and 
>>> all my other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
>>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
>>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
>>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
>>> downloads folder?
>>>
>>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that 
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
>>> information anywhere else.
>>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place 
>>> images in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's 
>>> a feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but 
>>> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that 
>>> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are 
>>> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i 
>>> suppose. 
>>>

[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

Hey Tony, having trouble even loading/starting the tiddlydesktop app--the 
video instruction is for MAc, and I'm in windows. there is no cat icon in 
mine, and the only executable file with an icon in the folder is nw.exe and 
when i click that, nothing happens. Where is the exe file to open the 
tiddlydesktop?

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Kelli,
>
> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need. 
>
> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple 
> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the 
> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally 
> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use 
> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon 
> field works.
>
> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so 
> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you 
> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest 
> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on 
> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of 
> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here 
> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which 
> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log 
> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in 
> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and 
> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your 
> downloads directory.
>
> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself 
> information.
>
> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find 
> more resources.
>
> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue, 
> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help 
> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>
> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not be 
> "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Tony--thanks for you helpI didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the 
>> backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're 
>> just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will 
>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've 
>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that 
>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for 
>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days 
>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, 
>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to 
>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>
>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>
>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed 
>> it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those 
>> are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my 
>> other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
>> downloads folder?
>>
>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that 
>> yet.
>>
>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
>> information anywhere else.
>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images 
>> in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's a 
>> feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but 
>> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that 
>> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are 
>> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i 
>> suppose. 
>> Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's 
>> to point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :) 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>>> Kelli,
>>>
>>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I 
>>> suggest deleting

Re: [tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

thanks so much, Jeremy. Appreciate your help!


On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:32:57 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Kelli
>
> see, now this is sounding complicated and destructive. will this affect 
> the files i've already created?
>
>
> No. Deleting the TiddlyDesktop application data folder just deletes all 
> the settings. The wiki list is cleared (but not the actual wiki files 
> themselves) so you’ll need to re-add your wikis to the list. It is the 
> recommended procedure if you want to undo changes to the backstage wiki.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:01:59 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Just to add that it's not enough to delete and re-install TiddlyDesktop. 
>> One also needs to delete the application data folder. The location of the 
>> folder depends on your operating system, though. On Macs it's in 
>> ~/Library/Application Support/TiddlyDesktop, and I believe it's 
>> C:\Users[YOUR_USER_NAME]\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki 
>> on Windows.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 05:51, TonyM  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Kelli,
>>
>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
>> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
>> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch it.*
>>
>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere 
>> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want 
>> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open 
>> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and 
>> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you 
>> wiki as you want.
>>
>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will 
>> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to 
>> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>>
>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>>
>>- Has its own built in browser
>>- Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on 
>>regular browsers because of security)
>>- Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have 
>>not tested this)
>>
>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
>> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>>
>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to 
>> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser. 
>> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools 
>> available in their favorite browser.
>>
>> Best of luck
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this where i can get help? 
>>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>>> i'm at the starting line.
>>> So.
>>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was 
>>> starting to make sense.
>>>
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some 
>>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back. 
>>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to 
>>> start it again. 
>>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage 
>>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and nothing 
>>> opened. no backstage.
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive 
>>> and still nothing. 
>>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard 
>>> drive, and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>>
>>> did i somehow delete everything?
>>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need to 
>>> just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>>
>>> ADDENDUM:
>>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these 
>>> errors.
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the 
>>> tiddlers i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost, 
>>> I WAS. :) 
>>>
>>>
>>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins, 
>>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did 
>>> before could use help with that.
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Image visability and user-friendliness

2019-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

You can drag and drop images into your TW (at least on Firefox ... don't 
know about the others).

On Firefox, you can also use the built-in screen shot tool and copy the 
text to the clipboard. Then go to your TW and paste. Import. Rename.

These methods are easy, but in the past they came with the caveat that 
images will quickly bulk up your TW file and slow it down. TW 5.1.20 & 
prerelease has indexing built in, allowing much larger files, though 
performance is still going to depend on things like system RAM. You might 
want to experiment with the prerelease and see how it works for you. 
(https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/)

Another approach is to use node.js and lazy-loading, so image files only 
have to be loaded when needed. 

Good luck

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:54:17 PM UTC-7, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> As a recovering OneNote user, i really need to place *images* in tiddlers 
> regularly, and be able to see them, and it seems that's a feature that 
> doesn't exist. I hoped it would be as simple as uploading into a tiddler, 
> but i see that it would be cumbersome to overload one file with the number 
> of images i will need. 
>
> By way of explanation, I am using this for personal and business, but will 
> probably not be sharing any of it. I wanted something to keep track of a 
> wide range of complex information, and maintain control over it, without 
> fear that some software company was going to close down or change things 
> adversely, or charge me stupid amounts for the privilege of using their 
> precious software.
> {sorry...Ms. Betty Bitterness just took over. I'm back now}
> So...I'm an Indie Author and publisher, and as such, i need information 
> about book files, to include a thumbnail of the covers. I also take 
> screenshots of rankings and publication data...I suppose I could stop doing 
> screenshots for some things, but that's always been a go-to method of 
> saving info from other sites. Maybe there's another way. Still need those 
> covers though.
> I hope this won't  be a deal breaker for me, as i think TW is exactly 
> what I've been needing. Hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's 
> odd not to have that ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for 
> webpages, which are full of images...but then, this TW application is being 
> used differently i suppose. I understand too many images would bloat the 
> file and cause issues, but I hope there's a way to fix it. Currently also 
> working on the issues with many html files and where they're getting saved, 
> but having an answer to this one would also be a great help.
> Appreciate any insight, here. Thanks.
>
> Using TW Desktop, Windows 10, Firefox.
>

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[tw5] Re: Iframe tiddlers quirk


>
>  If you do this I'd suggest at lest stating it in the post.


Very good point, I shall have to remember to start annotating about the 
attached tid. 

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[tw5] Re: Behavior of svg internal links

CORRECTIONS:
permaview changed to permalink

attached tid also corrected-- formatting alao fixed

CORRECTED TEXT:

An observation on behavior of links to tiddlers that are embedded into svgs 
(will seem out of context till I post about svg overlays for tiddler 
images-- still composing that while I play mad coder with other experiments 
<< >>)
I use svg's (for map & diagrams) with links to tiddlers embedded into the 
svg code such as

 (Deprecated)


-- normally, full or shortened standard urls are used but "#" allows you ro 
target individual tiddlers inside the wiki

that "#tiddler title"  may cue you into what will result-- a permalink link 
in the browser address bar.

1- the permalink url in the browser address bar will change with each 
different svg embedded link
2- if you close the tiddler that gets opened, the embedded svg link will 
not open it again while the browser address bar contains its permalink url, 
making it look like that embedded link doesn't work any longer
3- if you refresh the wiki without noticing the permalink url and clearing 
it, you will be left wondering why an unexpected tiddler displays and not 
your default start up tiddlers

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Behavior of svg internal links (corrected).tid
Description: Binary data

[tw5] Re: Iframe tiddlers quirk

OK, thanks 

...but regarding putting copies of the post as attachments: Is everyone 
here supposed to remember to never open and read *specifically your* posts? 
If you do this I'd suggest at lest stating it in the post.

<:-)

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[tw5] Image visability and user-friendliness

As a recovering OneNote user, i really need to place *images* in tiddlers
regularly, and be able to see them, and it seems that's a feature that
doesn't exist. I hoped it would be as simple as uploading into a tiddler,
but i see that it would be cumbersome to overload one file with the number
of images i will need.

By way of explanation, I am using this for personal and business, but will
probably not be sharing any of it. I wanted something to keep track of a
wide range of complex information, and maintain control over it, without
fear that some software company was going to close down or change things
adversely, or charge me stupid amounts for the privilege of using their
precious software.
{sorry...Ms. Betty Bitterness just took over. I'm back now}
So...I'm an Indie Author and publisher, and as such, i need information
about book files, to include a thumbnail of the covers. I also take
screenshots of rankings and publication data...I suppose I could stop doing
screenshots for some things, but that's always been a go-to method of
saving info from other sites. Maybe there's another way. Still need those
covers though.
I hope this won't be a deal breaker for me, as i think TW is exactly what
I've been needing. Hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd
not to have that ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for
webpages, which are full of images...but then, this TW application is being
used differently i suppose. I understand too many images would bloat the
file and cause issues, but I hope there's a way to fix it. Currently also
working on the issues with many html files and where they're getting saved,
but having an answer to this one would also be a great help.
Appreciate any insight, here. Thanks.

Using TW Desktop, Windows 10, Firefox.

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[tw5] Re: horizontal outline/menu (for RPG & MMORPG)

Here is a json file containing a good portion of the tiddlers for a working 
copy (full 1st & 2nd columns, and 2 of potential 24 3rd column displays 
("Fire" tabs) and for page contents display. No plugins needed, it has a 
simple custom stylesheet thats explained in an instructions riddler. Just 
import the json file into a blank wiki and a sidebar tab (#Empowerment) 
containing all files and instructions will be created. The file of interest 
will be MASTER INDEX (vMenu)
(#empowerments master menu), the parent/containing tiddler for all the 
others.

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horzmenus.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

PMario wrote:
>
> Accessing an alias name needs to iterate over every tiddler in the store 
> and have a look at the aliases field, if the alias is there. 
> Worst case: The last tiddler contains the wanted alias. :/
> Best case: The first tiddler contains the alias. ... In average that's 
> slower as directly accessing a title. 
>

Don't all tiddlers still have to be searched even if you hit that best 
case? Or how do you "cut" a filter search? My impression is that every 
filter is run "in full".
 

plugins can use a caching mechanism. So only the first lookup will be 
> slower. 
>

Could this theoretically be "brought to the front" so users could state 
"chache this"... maybe even as part of Jermys new "kill the magic black 
boxes" ambition?


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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

sorry. the json tiddler backup went to downloads folder, of course.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:05:03 PM UTC-5, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> Hi Birthe. Thanks.
> I exported to json file as suggested, but i have no idea where the file 
> went.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:41:04 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kelli,
>>
>> If you have not installed a saver for tiddlywiki, your browser saves 
>> everything to your download folder. At your first post you told us you used 
>> Firefox. If so you could intall timimi in your browser.
>>
>> If you do not use a saver, you are using the download saver. If so you 
>> can overwrite the same file to avoid getting so many. It is alright to do 
>> that for now, as you can move your file later, and open it from 
>> Tiddlydesktop (after deleting the one you have now and reinstalling).
>>
>> I think it will be a good idea to install the plugins you wanted in your 
>> empty tiddlywiki file before opening it in Tiddlydektop.
>>
>> That is a lot of files for sure. Try to open the file that was written to 
>> your system at the latest time. I am not using Windows myself, but I am 
>> sure you must have an option for that. Open that file in your browser. That 
>> way you find out if every tiddler you wrote is there. If they are you 
>> should be able to export your tiddlers from the sidebar tab called tools. 
>> chose export as json.
>>
>> Download https://tiddlywiki.com/empty
>> Reinstall the plugins you wanted.
>> import you tiddlers from the json file.
>> Finally delete Tiddlydekstop and reinstall it.
>>
>> open tiddlydektop and select open from file.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Birthe
>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

thanks so much for your help and all the great information, Tony. And for 
making me feel welcome.
You'll be happy to know that i have been Googling, and i have four tabs 
open for different help pages right this minute. :)
SOrry about the no title on posts. i thought it picked up on the previous 
title, when replying. So when i reply like this, how do i put a title on 
it? i can't find where to do that in a reply. (Sorry, again, i'm used to 
forums for this stuff, rather than a Google group format).
Anxious to have a look at your link, too. thanks for that. I downloaded 
timimi, but haven't installed it yet. not sure if i know how. will have to 
look again. I guess i have too may irons in the fire! but that's what is 
called NORMAL for me.

By the way, i tried drag and drop and that didn't work--or maybe it just 
didn't work the way i imagined it would. :)
Will start another post about images.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Kelli,
>
> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need. 
>
> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple 
> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the 
> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally 
> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use 
> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon 
> field works.
>
> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so 
> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you 
> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest 
> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on 
> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of 
> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here 
> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which 
> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log 
> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in 
> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and 
> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your 
> downloads directory.
>
> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself 
> information.
>
> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find 
> more resources.
>
> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue, 
> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help 
> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>
> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not be 
> "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Tony--thanks for you helpI didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the 
>> backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're 
>> just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will 
>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've 
>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that 
>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for 
>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days 
>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, 
>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to 
>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>
>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>
>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed 
>> it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those 
>> are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my 
>> other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
>> downloads folder?
>>
>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that 
>> yet.
>>
>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
>> information anywhere else.
>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images 
>> in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's a 
>> feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal

[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

Hi Birthe. Thanks.
I exported to json file as suggested, but i have no idea where the file 
went.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:41:04 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Kelli,
>
> If you have not installed a saver for tiddlywiki, your browser saves 
> everything to your download folder. At your first post you told us you used 
> Firefox. If so you could intall timimi in your browser.
>
> If you do not use a saver, you are using the download saver. If so you can 
> overwrite the same file to avoid getting so many. It is alright to do that 
> for now, as you can move your file later, and open it from Tiddlydesktop 
> (after deleting the one you have now and reinstalling).
>
> I think it will be a good idea to install the plugins you wanted in your 
> empty tiddlywiki file before opening it in Tiddlydektop.
>
> That is a lot of files for sure. Try to open the file that was written to 
> your system at the latest time. I am not using Windows myself, but I am 
> sure you must have an option for that. Open that file in your browser. That 
> way you find out if every tiddler you wrote is there. If they are you 
> should be able to export your tiddlers from the sidebar tab called tools. 
> chose export as json.
>
> Download https://tiddlywiki.com/empty
> Reinstall the plugins you wanted.
> import you tiddlers from the json file.
> Finally delete Tiddlydekstop and reinstall it.
>
> open tiddlydektop and select open from file.
>
> Good luck,
> Birthe
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-02 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 1:23:56 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
...

> Since tiddlywiki handles tiddler titles in many ways people's expectations
> can be quite high to get the same features with any alias system.
>

I think that's the point. ... You basically need to be able to do all
things in the same way as you do with titles atm.

Accessing the tiddler store using a title is a *single *lookup function,
which is as fast as the browser memory management can make it.

Accessing an alias name needs to iterate over every tiddler in the store
and have a look at the aliases field, if the alias is there.
Worst case: The last tiddler contains the wanted alias. :/
Best case: The first tiddler contains the alias. ... In average that's
slower as directly accessing a title.

plugins can use a caching mechanism. So only the first lookup will be
slower.

In TW 5.1.20 Jeremy introduces an indexing system, that can speed up filter
operations. ... I'll definitely experiment with this new functionality with
the uni-link plugin and aliases. .. The second test should be done with
60.000 tiddlers as Jeremy mentioned in the pull request
.

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[tw5] Re: How to return only the first value in field with multiple values?

2019-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I'm not sure what you mean by "return", but in a list filter you could have

<$list filter="[enlist{!!dates}nth[1]]"/>

Where "dates" is a field containing your date items. This will only work if 
your dates are in a format that does not contain space (e.g. something like 
2016-02-02)

Good luck

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:24:55 PM UTC-7, si wrote:
>
> I have a field that contains a list of several dates separated by spaces. 
> Is there a way to return only the first date?
>

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[tw5] Re: How to return only the first value in field with multiple values?

Si,

Space is a normal delimiter so using the enlist operator should separate 
each of the dates, and you can use the [[first 
operator|https://tiddlywiki.com/#first%20Operator]] and other order 
operators to do this kind of manipulation.

Tony

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:24:55 AM UTC+10, si wrote:
>
> I have a field that contains a list of several dates separated by spaces. 
> Is there a way to return only the first date?
>

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[tw5] Re: Iframe tiddlers quirk

Hello Mat,

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:55:04 AM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks but so where do you put the local path name?
>

The local path (full for directories other than the one your TW is in, or 
shortened if its in a subdirectory of the one your TW is in) or file name 
if its in the same directory goes into the src just like a url.

> And you've attached a tid to your post, maybe it was supposed to show some 
> code but it is just a copy of the post itself - ?
>

The attached tid is for TWScripts or other TW reference wikis, so they can 
import a tiddler of the post.  There's really no unique code, the post 
covers the generic iframe code and a quirk I noticed with the src value.  
The gist is if the iframe originally pointed to a http address, trying to 
change it to local, the iframe won't reflect the change and will display a 
blank iframe.

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[tw5] How to return only the first value in field with multiple values?

2019-07-02 Thread si

I have a field that contains a list of several dates separated by spaces. 
Is there a way to return only the first date?

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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

Kelli,

Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need. 

I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple 
drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the 
wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally 
once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use 
transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon 
field works.

Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so 
extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you 
get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest 
downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on 
tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of 
tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself 
here http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which 
includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log your 
activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in your 
document folders double clicking the file will open it and automatically 
save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your downloads 
directory.

Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself 
information.

Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find more 
resources.

When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue, so 
unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help can 
see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.

We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not be 
"shown the door". You are now part of our community.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> Tony--thanks for you helpI didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the 
> backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're 
> just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will deleting 
> and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've already 
> created*? I am not about to start over entering all that information 
> again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for an answer 
> to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days of work. 
> It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, all things 
> considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to be sure I'm 
> not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>
> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>
> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed 
> it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those 
> are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my 
> other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
> downloads folder?
>
> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that yet.
>
> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
> information anywhere else.
> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images 
> in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's a 
> feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but 
> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that 
> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are 
> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i 
> suppose. 
> Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's to 
> point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :) 
>
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
>> Kelli,
>>
>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
>> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
>> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch it.*
>>
>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere 
>> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want 
>> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open 
>> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and 
>> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and

[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

2019-07-02 Thread PMario

Hi, 

You may have a closer look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionListopsWidget

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: image template annotation yet?

2019-07-02 Thread Jan


Très Cool!
Very usefull idea and realisation!

Thanks!
   Jan


Am 01.07.2019 um 00:57 schrieb Dave:

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[tw5] Re: Any good way to see if one version is higher than another?

Thank you Mark.

The problem is that it has to be general enough to compare any two plugins 
not only the core. But the two plugins *are* the same plugin, just 
different versions. And it is not sure that the plugins follow the x.y.z 
format. 

Waiting until 5.1.20 is not a problem though. 

But I'm thinking that the core has a built in version comparison mechanism 
used in import. Is it possible to tap into this perhaps?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Best way to manage wiki across platforms

2019-07-02 Thread passingby



On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
>
> About that app... It is not an app made in TW, so how does one know it can 
> be trusted? So my data doesn't e.g get copied by someone or passwords 
> stored...
>
> <:-)
>

Mat, your point got me thinking, and I gave a cursory look at Termux, the 
one which TonyM mentioned. I ll have a deeper look at this in coming days 
and if I feel I can make it work with my somewhat limited knowledge, I 
shall start using it. And of course the credit would go to you. :-) 

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[tw5] Re: Any good way to see if one version is higher than another?

2019-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I can see how you can do it with two filter loops, and a slight cheat. 
Maybe two cheats.

The first cheat is that for most revisions, only the last part of the 
dotted notation is significant (e.g. 5.1.*20 -- *only the last dotted 
number has change for the last 4 (?) years).

The 2nd cheat is that you need TW 5.1.20prerelease, because it has a new 
split operator.

So you could have an outer filter with three runs. The first run finds the 
revision number or the first plugin and splits it by the period (.) and 
then uses the nth operator to find the 3rd rev portion. Repeat for the 2nd 
plugin. Then use the numerical sort operator and take the last tiddler, 
which will be the largest rev number. Put that number in a variable.

Then for the 2nd, inner filter, use the regexp operator with the variable 
to find the plugin with a matching rev number in the 3rd dotted notation 
position.

Tweak as necessary. For instance, the variable from list #1 may need to be 
modified by a macro in order to make it ready for the regular expression.

HTH

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:13:22 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Say I have two plugins A and B.
>
> How can I - in a filter - evaluate if A's version value is greater than 
> B's?
> There is, to kill off your first idea, no "greaterthan" filter operator.
>
> I don't want to do an action to set some value for calculation, i.e it is 
> ideally only a filter evaluation.
>
> Thanx
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Best way to manage wiki across platforms

2019-07-02 Thread passingby

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
>
> About that app... It is not an app made in TW, so how does one know it can 
> be trusted? So my data doesn't e.g get copied by someone or passwords 
> stored...
>
> <:-)
>

No, it can't be trusted. As for me personally, I have far more important 
and life affecting data like passwords and stuff outside of my tiddlywiki 
in hands of corporation who are strong and powerful in material world.

I don't think we can trust our own operating systems or Google or Apple or 
the banks or even the US government, who can order these companies to fall 
in line with their policies.

If there is important data, one should read up on everything relevant and 
make one's choice. I don't know much.

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to change the default wiki in tiddlydesktop?

2019-07-02 Thread Adam S.

Thank you Tony!
I will keep an eye on this thread!

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 1:04:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Adam,
>
> I am not aware of this and have being looking for a while. I hoped at 
> least I could launch a wiki from a command line or batch file.
>
> I will let you know if I learn something.
>
> I raised an issue in github 
> 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:17:32 PM UTC+10, Adam S. wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I would like tiddlydesktop to open a selected wiki when it is launched 
>> instead of the default with the wiki list.
>> Is this possible?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Best way to manage wiki across platforms

passingby wrote:
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>
> I currently keep my TWs in a google drive folder and I open them using 
> Tiddlydrive app.
>

About that app... It is not an app made in TW, so how does one know it can 
be trusted? So my data doesn't e.g get copied by someone or passwords 
stored...

<:-)

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[tw5] Any good way to see if one version is higher than another?

Say I have two plugins A and B.

How can I - in a filter - evaluate if A's version value is greater than B's?
There is, to kill off your first idea, no "greaterthan" filter operator.

I don't want to do an action to set some value for calculation, i.e it is 
ideally only a filter evaluation.

Thanx

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[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

2019-07-02 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Mark S. wrote:
>
> The attached is just to indicate that some progress is being made.
>

Its looking good! I have it working. 

I hoping by tommorrow I can have ready for you a version that integrates 
your changes. Plus some changes I made. Like being able, from a paramater, 
to load different settings files. 

Regarding  your "test" menu option. I'll include it & give a switch in 
Internal Settings to turn it on/off. 

I am trying to be as quick as I can so we don't get out of step.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

2019-07-02 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Mark S. wrote ... 

> ... I was thinking maybe "Polly", like the parrot that repeats itself, 
> which is what the script really does.


Ha! :-)  I like it! Not ostentatious. Quite descriptive. Why not?

Unless anyone else expresses an opionion I'm happy with that. Let's give it 
a couple of days and the settle on that perch?.

Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: Best way to manage wiki across platforms

2019-07-02 Thread passingby

I currently keep my TWs in a google drive folder and I open them using 
Tiddlydrive app. It works on my windows laptop as well as my android phone. 
I think it must work everywhere. You ll have to install tiddlydrive app to 
your google drive account. Open a TW by right clicking and choosing 
tiddlydrive as the opening app. Once set it open straight away on double 
click. On android I have to go to context menu and choose 'open with' and 
then 'tiddlydrive'.

Hope this helps.
-passingby 

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7, Ovy Ortega wrote:
>
> I just found tiddlywiki late last night. I could not sleep I was so 
> excited. I am hoping it takes the place of evernote, writer, and zoho 
> notes. But here is my dilemna 
>
> Day to day I switch from a chromebook, an ipad, and an iphone- how can I 
> sync and keep it all flowing in unison? I downloaded Quine but it does not 
> seem to agree (to me) with tiddlydrive. 
>
> Best, 
>
> Ovy
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Re: [tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?

Jeremy,
 Does this mechanism lets to switch two values!
Temp=A
A=B
B=Temp
If we select B  from select widget and set temp outside select widget?

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On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:41:56 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> Hi @twMat
>
> I can confirm that the action string is in fact executed after the target 
> tiddler has been set. The problem is subtler: any variables setup outside 
> of the action string will not be updated to reflect the new value of the 
> target tiddler. So you need to make sure you directly compute anything that 
> depends on that tiddler.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 2 Jul 2019, at 16:03, Mat > wrote:
>
> The SelectWidget  has a 
> parameter named "tiddler" where the selected title is stored.
>
> I want to perform an action to the selected item, so I'm using the 
> SelectWidget *action* attribute.
>
> However, when selecting a title in the list it seems the actions are 
> performed *before* the title is added to the state tiddler.
>
> How can the actions be made to affect the selected title?
>
> (Currently, the first time the SelectWidget is used, it triggers an action 
> without anything being set, as if it was a separate action widget button. 
> And selecting a second title triggers the action to be performed on the 
> *first* selection title - !?)
>
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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

2019-07-02 Thread Birthe C

Hi Kelli,

If you have not installed a saver for tiddlywiki, your browser saves
everything to your download folder. At your first post you told us you used
Firefox. If so you could intall timimi in your browser.

If you do not use a saver, you are using the download saver. If so you can
overwrite the same file to avoid getting so many. It is alright to do that
for now, as you can move your file later, and open it from Tiddlydesktop
(after deleting the one you have now and reinstalling).

I think it will be a good idea to install the plugins you wanted in your
empty tiddlywiki file before opening it in Tiddlydektop.

That is a lot of files for sure. Try to open the file that was written to
your system at the latest time. I am not using Windows myself, but I am
sure you must have an option for that. Open that file in your browser. That
way you find out if every tiddler you wrote is there. If they are you
should be able to export your tiddlers from the sidebar tab called tools.
chose export as json.

Download https://tiddlywiki.com/empty
Reinstall the plugins you wanted.
import you tiddlers from the json file.
Finally delete Tiddlydekstop and reinstall it.

open tiddlydektop and select open from file.

Good luck,
Birthe

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Re: [tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?


>
> You probably knew I was going to ask this, but what is the wikify widget 
> here for? Why aren’t you using <$set name=tid 
> text={{$:/temp/addaliasfield}}>?
>

LOL! I copied it straight from where I have the problem (here 
) and if I recall I think 
I used wikify because I tried with some filter attribute in set which 
probably failed, i.e gave brackets, so resorted to wikify. 

But yes, it should be $set

Thanks for your valuable input.

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Re: [tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?

Hi Mat

> Just to make sure I understand; Here's the code here - are you saying it is 
> the outer wikified variable that causes the problem and I should instead 
> somehow move this into the actions argument?
> 
> <$wikify name=tid text={{$:/temp/addaliasfield}}>
> <$select tiddler='$:/temp/addaliasfield' size='5'
>  actions="""<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field=aliases 
> $value="oo">"""
> >
><$list filter='[all[tiddlers]!is[system]!has:field[aliases]]'>
>   <$view field='title'/>
>
> 
> 
> 

That’s correct. The variable tid is inherited by the action string, but will 
not have been updated before execution. (One of the reasons is to avoid a 
potential inconsistency: a result of refreshing the tree to get that variable 
updated might plausibly be to cause that entire select widget to be removed 
from the tree).

You probably knew I was going to ask this, but what is the wikify widget here 
for? Why aren’t you using <$set name=tid text={{$:/temp/addaliasfield}}>?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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Re: [tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?

Thank you for your reply! That is in deed subtle.

Just to make sure I understand; Here's the code here - are you saying it is 
the outer wikified variable that causes the problem and I should instead 
somehow move this into the actions argument?

<$wikify name=tid text={{$:/temp/addaliasfield}}>
<$select tiddler='$:/temp/addaliasfield' size='5'
 actions="""<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field=aliases 
$value="oo">"""
>
   <$list filter='[all[tiddlers]!is[system]!has:field[aliases]]'>
  <$view field='title'/>
   




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Re: [tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?

Hi @twMat

I can confirm that the action string is in fact executed after the target 
tiddler has been set. The problem is subtler: any variables setup outside of 
the action string will not be updated to reflect the new value of the target 
tiddler. So you need to make sure you directly compute anything that depends on 
that tiddler.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 2 Jul 2019, at 16:03, Mat  wrote:
> 
> The SelectWidget  has a 
> parameter named "tiddler" where the selected title is stored.
> 
> I want to perform an action to the selected item, so I'm using the 
> SelectWidget action attribute.
> 
> However, when selecting a title in the list it seems the actions are 
> performed before the title is added to the state tiddler.
> 
> How can the actions be made to affect the selected title?
> 
> (Currently, the first time the SelectWidget is used, it triggers an action 
> without anything being set, as if it was a separate action widget button. And 
> selecting a second title triggers the action to be performed on the first 
> selection title - !?)
> 
> <:-)
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[tw5] SelectWidget does actions before selection is set...?

The SelectWidget  has a 
parameter named "tiddler" where the selected title is stored.

I want to perform an action to the selected item, so I'm using the 
SelectWidget *action* attribute.

However, when selecting a title in the list it seems the actions are 
performed *before* the title is added to the state tiddler.

How can the actions be made to affect the selected title?

(Currently, the first time the SelectWidget is used, it triggers an action 
without anything being set, as if it was a separate action widget button. 
And selecting a second title triggers the action to be performed on the 
*first* selection title - !?)

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

Hi Mat

> On 2 Jul 2019, at 14:55, Mat  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the request was to remove the brackets which the filter transclusion 
> between quotation marks seems to do.

You’re quite right, I’d missed the select=“0” in Xaviers post.

Best wishes

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[tw5] Re: How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

2019-07-02 Thread Ed

Thanks a lot Tony that works. I really appreciate you taking the time to 
help me.

For the record, when 5.1.20 is released (...aaany day now) it will be 
> very simple to "search and replace" in a string by means of the split and 
> join filter operators. See this doc 
> , at bottom.
>

Thanks that's good to know.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 2:20:56 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Ed,
>
> The quick answer is to place the filter inside triple braces without 
> surrounding quotes
>
> Name={{{ filter }}}
>
> I am answering from my mobile and its not so easy to test you code. Have a 
> go and let me know.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I don’t think your wikify widget will deal with adding the double square 
> brackets.
>

I think the request was to remove the brackets which the filter 
transclusion between quotation marks seems to do.

Thanks for the explanation. I probably over use wikify but I often don't 
see any other way out. This problem with extra brackets is one such 
recurrence so the $set technique was valuable.

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[tw5] Re: How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

For the record, when 5.1.20 is released (...aaany day now) it will be 
very simple to "search and replace" in a string by means of the split and 
join filter operators. See this doc 
, at bottom.

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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

Hi @twMat

> On 2 Jul 2019, at 14:34, Mat  wrote:
> 
> Xavier wrote:
> In order to "flatten" the titles retrieved from the filter, you need to use 
> the select attribute of your <$set> widget like so: <$set name="left" 
> filter="[splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- ]]" select=0>
> 
> I was not aware of this technique. I would have attempted
> 
> <$wikify name="left" text="{{{ [splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- 
> ]] }}}">
> 
> Is there any advantage or disadvantage with either?

I don’t think your wikify widget will deal with adding the double square 
brackets.

Anyhow, wikify widget is intrinsically slow because it requires the text to be 
parsed and rendered on each refresh cycle. It should be avoided unless there is 
no alternative.

There’s only a small number of use cases for the wikify widget, and they all 
boil down to a need to manipulate the results of wikification other than to 
just display them.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

Xavier wrote:
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> In order to "flatten" the titles retrieved from the filter, you need to 
> use the *select* attribute of your <$set> widget like so: <$set 
> name="left" filter="[splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- ]]" 
> select=0>
>

I was not aware of this technique. I would have attempted

<$wikify name="left" text="{{{ [splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- 
]] }}}">

Is there any advantage or disadvantage with either?

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Re: [tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

2019-07-02 Thread Anthony Muscio

Kelli,

I do not believe a reinstall will touch your files however compress them
all into a zipfile as a backup and move that elsewhere for safety.

I do not think the number of files is caused by tiddlydesktop. But I will
review your post tomorrow. +12 hours.

Regards
Tony

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 11:23 PM Kelli Jae Baeli  wrote:

> see, now this is sounding complicated and destructive. will this affect
> the files i've already created?
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:01:59 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Just to add that it's not enough to delete and re-install TiddlyDesktop.
>> One also needs to delete the application data folder. The location of the
>> folder depends on your operating system, though. On Macs it's in
>> ~/Library/Application Support/TiddlyDesktop, and I believe it's 
>> C:\Users[YOUR_USER_NAME]\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki
>> on Windows.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 05:51, TonyM  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Kelli,
>>
>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest
>> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops
>> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch it.*
>>
>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere
>> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want
>> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open
>> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and
>> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you
>> wiki as you want.
>>
>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will
>> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to
>> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop
>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>>
>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>>
>>- Has its own built in browser
>>- Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on
>>regular browsers because of security)
>>- Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have
>>not tested this)
>>
>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try
>> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>>
>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to
>> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser.
>> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools
>> available in their favorite browser.
>>
>> Best of luck
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this where i can get help?
>>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS
>>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and
>>> i'm at the starting line.
>>> So.
>>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was
>>> starting to make sense.
>>>
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some
>>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back.
>>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to
>>> start it again.
>>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage
>>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and nothing
>>> opened. no backstage.
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive
>>> and still nothing.
>>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard
>>> drive, and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>>
>>> did i somehow delete everything?
>>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need to
>>> just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>>
>>> ADDENDUM:
>>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these
>>> errors.
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the
>>> tiddlers i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost,
>>> I WAS. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins,
>>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did
>>> before could use help with that.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

Hi Kelli

> see, now this is sounding complicated and destructive. will this affect the 
> files i've already created?

No. Deleting the TiddlyDesktop application data folder just deletes all the 
settings. The wiki list is cleared (but not the actual wiki files themselves) 
so you’ll need to re-add your wikis to the list. It is the recommended 
procedure if you want to undo changes to the backstage wiki.

Best wishes

Jeremy



> 
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:01:59 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Just to add that it's not enough to delete and re-install TiddlyDesktop. One 
> also needs to delete the application data folder. The location of the folder 
> depends on your operating system, though. On Macs it's in 
> ~/Library/Application Support/TiddlyDesktop, and I believe it's 
> C:\Users[YOUR_USER_NAME]\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki on Windows.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com <>
> https://jermolene.com 
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 05:51, TonyM > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Kelli,
>> 
>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
>> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
>> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, I suggest do not touch it.
>> 
>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com  and down load empty.html 
>> and save it somewhere in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any 
>> new wiki name you want to create as many times as you want, each copy 
>> creates a new wiki. Now open TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. 
>> Browse to a wiki file and select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open 
>> and make changes to you wiki as you want.
>> 
>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will result 
>> in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to list in 
>> TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>> 
>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>> Has its own built in browser
>> Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on regular 
>> browsers because of security)
>> Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have not tested 
>> this)
>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
>> https://noteself.github.io/  online
>> 
>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to 
>> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser. 
>> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools 
>> available in their favorite browser.
>> 
>> Best of luck
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>> Is this where i can get help? 
>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>> i'm at the starting line.
>> So.
>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was starting 
>> to make sense.
>> 
>>  <>then i added some of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing 
>> came back. 
>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to start 
>> it again. 
>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage 
>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and nothing 
>> opened. no backstage.
>> 
>> 
>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive and 
>> still nothing. 
>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard drive, 
>> and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>> 
>> did i somehow delete everything?
>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need to 
>> just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>> 
>> ADDENDUM:
>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these errors.
>>  <>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  <>
>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the tiddlers i 
>> created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost, I WAS. :) 
>> 
>> 
>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins, and 
>> also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did before 
>> could use help with that.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

see, now this is sounding complicated and destructive. will this affect the 
files i've already created?

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:01:59 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Just to add that it's not enough to delete and re-install TiddlyDesktop. 
> One also needs to delete the application data folder. The location of the 
> folder depends on your operating system, though. On Macs it's in 
> ~/Library/Application Support/TiddlyDesktop, and I believe it's 
> C:\Users[YOUR_USER_NAME]\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki 
> on Windows.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 05:51, TonyM > wrote:
>
> 
> Kelli,
>
> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch it.*
>
> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere 
> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want 
> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open 
> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and 
> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you 
> wiki as you want.
>
> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will 
> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to 
> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>
> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>
>- Has its own built in browser
>- Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on regular 
>browsers because of security)
>- Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have not 
>tested this)
>
> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>
> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to 
> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser. 
> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools 
> available in their favorite browser.
>
> Best of luck
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Is this where i can get help? 
>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>> i'm at the starting line.
>> So.
>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was 
>> starting to make sense.
>>
>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some 
>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back. 
>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to 
>> start it again. 
>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage 
>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and nothing 
>> opened. no backstage.
>>
>>
>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive and 
>> still nothing. 
>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard drive, 
>> and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>
>> did i somehow delete everything?
>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need to 
>> just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>
>> ADDENDUM:
>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these 
>> errors.
>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the tiddlers 
>> i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost, I WAS. :) 
>>
>>
>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins, 
>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did 
>> before could use help with that.
>>
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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

Tony--thanks for you helpI didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the 
backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're 
just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
[image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png] so..burning 
question: *Will deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the 
files i've already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that 
information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for 
an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days 
of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, 
all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to 
be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.

I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
they? and if so, where is THAT file?)

I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed 
it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those 
are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my 
other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
downloads folder?

I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that yet.

I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
information anywhere else.
one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images in 
tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's a feature 
that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but hopefully 
there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that ability, 
since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are full of 
images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i suppose. 
Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's to 
point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :) 

On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:

> Kelli,
>
> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch it.*
>
> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere 
> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want 
> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open 
> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and 
> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you 
> wiki as you want.
>
> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will 
> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to 
> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>
> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>
>- Has its own built in browser
>- Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on regular 
>browsers because of security)
>- Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have not 
>tested this)
>
> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>
> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to 
> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser. 
> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools 
> available in their favorite browser.
>
> Best of luck
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Is this where i can get help? 
>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>> i'm at the starting line.
>> So.
>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was 
>> starting to make sense.
>>
>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some 
>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back. 
>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to 
>> start it again. 
>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage 
>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally,

[tw5] Re: How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

Ed,

The quick answer is to place the filter inside triple braces without 
surrounding quotes

Name={{{ filter }}}

I am answering from my mobile and its not so easy to test you code. Have a go 
and let me know.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

Example attached!

Give your comment or alternative solution!

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:27:00 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> I think this may be a solution
>
> \define applyTag()
> 
> <$list filter="[search:title[exmp65/data]tag[exmp65]]">
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="exmp65"/>
> 
> 
> 
> <$tiddler tiddler={{exmp65/state}}>
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="exmp65"/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> ;How swith a tag among a set of tiddlers? Only one tiddler can have the 
> tag at a time!
> : The solution is to use `select` widget and an action macro
>
> The below example demonstrate how to switch a tag among set of tiddlers. 
> The code has two parts
>
> # select widget to choose one tiddler among set of tiddlers
> # action macro to set tag to the selected tiddler and remove it from 
> previous tiddler
>
> Here for this example, tag `exmp65` between three tiddlers is switched. 
> Only one tiddler has the tag at a time. The action macro called `applyTag`.
>
>
>
>
> <$macrocall $name="wikitext-example-without-html" 
> src="""<$select 
>   tooltip="select a tiddler"
>   tiddler="exmp65/state" 
>   field="text"
>   actions=<>
> >
> <$list filter="[search:title[exmp65/data]]" variable="tid">
> > > <> 
> 
> 
> """/>
>
>
>
>
> This may be not optimized code but work!
>
>
>

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switch-tag.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

I think this may be a solution

\define applyTag()

<$list filter="[search:title[exmp65/data]tag[exmp65]]">
<$fieldmangler>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="exmp65"/>



<$tiddler tiddler={{exmp65/state}}>
<$fieldmangler>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="exmp65"/>



\end

;How swith a tag among a set of tiddlers? Only one tiddler can have the tag 
at a time!
: The solution is to use `select` widget and an action macro

The below example demonstrate how to switch a tag among set of tiddlers. 
The code has two parts

# select widget to choose one tiddler among set of tiddlers
# action macro to set tag to the selected tiddler and remove it from 
previous tiddler

Here for this example, tag `exmp65` between three tiddlers is switched. 
Only one tiddler has the tag at a time. The action macro called `applyTag`.




<$macrocall $name="wikitext-example-without-html" 
src="""<$select 
  tooltip="select a tiddler"
  tiddler="exmp65/state" 
  field="text"
  actions=<>
>
<$list filter="[search:title[exmp65/data]]" variable="tid">
> > <> 


"""/>




This may be not optimized code but work!


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[tw5] Re: tiddler in list style?

thank you!


On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 12:01:00 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Kellie
>
> The quick answer is use the list-links macro see tiddlywiki.com which 
> lists them with bullet points. At the end of you filter just put sort[] or 
> sort[fieldname] where f ieldname could be title (default) created modified 
> text or any other field.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: tiddler in list style?

thanks!

On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 3:03:55 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Tony's right. list-links is the simplest way. E.g
>
> <>
>
> Here's  an 
> overview of lists.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

The dummy solution is to

   - remove tag from all tiddlers
   - set the tag for select tiddler

The bad part is while only one tiddler has a tag, but I have to process all 
of them.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

Sorry! You are right I forgot to ask the question in original post!
I send two more posts after that and asked my question!
In real case they are tens of tiddlers and may grow dynamically all have no 
Tag except one!
Then user select another one so this new new gets the Tag and from the 
previous Tag is removed!

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:49:10 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I was wondering if you post was a question.
>
> I have gone down this path before but now days I would swap it around
>
> Have a tiddler tagged 
>
>- Tid1
>- Tid2
>- Tid3
>- Tid4
>
> Lets call this the set-tiddler
>
> Then use a filter in a select widget to set a field to only one of the 
> above values tagging[set-tiddler]
>
> Then if you want you could change the select filter to not even list the 
> currently selected tiddler, just the balance.
>
> Then if you get smart you could make next, previous, first and last 
> buttons. I will do this one day as an essential code pattern but not right 
> now.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:57:16 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Any idea? Any simple solution?
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 1:58:54 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>>  Assume you have
>>>
>>>- Tid1
>>>- Tid2
>>>- Tid3
>>>- Tid4
>>>
>>> User wants to have a *select widget* and choose one Tiddler
>>>
>>>1. The action after selection is to add a Tag like *myTag* to 
>>>selected tiddler
>>>2. In the next round if user chooses another tiddler, the tag (
>>>*myTag*) from previous tiddler shall be removed and new selected 
>>>tiddler should tagged with *myTag*
>>>3. and this will be continued
>>>
>>>
>>>- At any time only one tiddler is tagged with *myTag*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pseudo code*
>>> <$select 
>>>   tooltip="select a tiddler"
>>>   tiddler="mystate" 
>>>   field="myselection"
>>>   actions=<>
>>> >
>>> <$list filter="myfilter" variable="tid">
>>> > > <> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> */*Mohammad
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

2019-07-02 Thread Ed

Thank you Tony for your reply.

Perhaps an alternate strategy is to just copy the code ICKToz7BLLA the 
> generate a link or two
> In this case you could use [addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/
> ]]
>

I want to use the full link simply because it is easier to copy and paste 
on mobile.

But you can also take the link and [{!!url}removeprefix[
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=]addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/]
> ]
>
 
I have tried both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=]addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/]]; 
frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

and 

<$action-createtiddler $basetitle={{$:/state/new-video-link}} 
text="{{||YoutubeTemplate}}" url=[{!!url}removeprefix[https://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=]addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/]]/

But neither of those work. I don't think I understand how to include a 
filter within a widget or html?

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

I agree on the need for aliases but the caption field satisfies part of the 
issue, like friendlier names, perhaps that's why we still need to use 
macros or plugins to address this. Just saying.

Since tiddlywiki handles tiddler titles in many ways people's expectations 
can be quite high to get the same features with any alias system.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:54:28 PM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I think the core could really profit from one of all the solutions out 
>> there. Maybe a good mix?
>>
>
> Yes, IMO the core does need some aliases solution. It is actually 
> surprising it's not there given how universal this need has always been.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Best way to manage wiki across platforms

2019-07-02 Thread 'mervin mecklenburg' via TiddlyWiki

I use Dropbox.  I access it on computers that use Widows 10 as well as 
Ubantu.  Dropbox is also available on the Android operating system; 
although I have had less luck there because of the memory limitations of my 
equipment.

Good luck.

Merv

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 4:42:18 PM UTC-6, Ovy Ortega wrote:
>
> I just found tiddlywiki late last night. I could not sleep I was so 
> excited. I am hoping it takes the place of evernote, writer, and zoho 
> notes. But here is my dilemna 
>
> Day to day I switch from a chromebook, an ipad, and an iphone- how can I 
> sync and keep it all flowing in unison? I downloaded Quine but it does not 
> seem to agree (to me) with tiddlydrive. 
>
> Best, 
>
> Ovy
>

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

Mohammad,

I was wondering if you post was a question.

I have gone down this path before but now days I would swap it around

Have a tiddler tagged 

   - Tid1
   - Tid2
   - Tid3
   - Tid4

Lets call this the set-tiddler

Then use a filter in a select widget to set a field to only one of the 
above values tagging[set-tiddler]

Then if you want you could change the select filter to not even list the 
currently selected tiddler, just the balance.

Then if you get smart you could make next, previous, first and last 
buttons. I will do this one day as an essential code pattern but not right 
now.

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:57:16 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Any idea? Any simple solution?
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 1:58:54 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>  Assume you have
>>
>>- Tid1
>>- Tid2
>>- Tid3
>>- Tid4
>>
>> User wants to have a *select widget* and choose one Tiddler
>>
>>1. The action after selection is to add a Tag like *myTag* to 
>>selected tiddler
>>2. In the next round if user chooses another tiddler, the tag (*myTag*) 
>>from previous tiddler shall be removed and new selected tiddler should 
>>tagged with *myTag*
>>3. and this will be continued
>>
>>
>>- At any time only one tiddler is tagged with *myTag*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Pseudo code*
>> <$select 
>>   tooltip="select a tiddler"
>>   tiddler="mystate" 
>>   field="myselection"
>>   actions=<>
>> >
>> <$list filter="myfilter" variable="tid">
>> > > <> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> */*Mohammad
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

In simple word this is an equal to

Temp = A
A = B
B = Temp

Temp is a temporary variable!
In TW seems everything is dynamic, so I failed to do above operation!

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

Mohammad wrote:
>
> No, I think these are great stuff and help people to learn different 
> approach!
> So, please keep it! I like your simple solution too!
>

Thanks. I do note that mklaubers solution is js based whereas mine is 
wikitext which I see as an advantage for hackability (...because I don't 
know js and a user shouldn't have to of course).

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I think the core could really profit from one of all the solutions out 
> there. Maybe a good mix?
>

Yes, IMO the core does need some aliases solution. It is actually 
surprising it's not there given how universal this need has always been.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

PMario wrote:
>
> Nice work. ... Seems to be similar to my uni-link plugin [1]. ... 
>

Yes, I was inspired by your plugin :-)
I like the integration with the caption field. 

 

> One main problem, for me, with aliases was, that I also want to have the 
> "alias-backlink" info in the info panel. 
>

What exactly is the problem?

 

> There is a short video [2], which shows all the functions. uni-link plugin 
> also implements some filter operators, that help with alias handling. 
>
> - is[alias], all[aliases], [aliasbacklinks[]],  
> [[?]aliasbacklinks[]sort[title]]
>

What "is" an alias in your solution. Is it a non-existing tiddler whose 
title title appear in any other tiddlers 'aliases' field?


<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

No, I think these are great stuff and help people to learn different 
approach!
So, please keep it! I like your simple solution too!

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 2:29:53 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> h0p3 wrote:
>>
>> Does your tool differ in a crucial respect from 
>> https://mklauber.github.io/tw5-plugins/#Aliases ? 
>>
>
> G'dang! I hadn't looked at mklaubers plugin. It does seem very similar... 
> and possibly even better, in that clicking an alias navigates to the real 
> tiddler. My version shows the content of the real tiddler but uses the 
> alias name. I can see how mklaubers variant is better for mentally 
> fostering the user to remember the original titles.
>
> I must investigate if I should simply deprecate my variant.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-02 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi Mat,

this is a really simple but GREAT solution :)

I think the core could really profit from one of all the solutions out 
there. Maybe a good mix?

Yours is very simple and I like that, thank you for your work!

Simon

Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 02:31:56 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> From the crypts, Mr von TWaddle has burned up yet a few brain cells for 
> the benefit of his fellow *tiddleurs*...
> ...and thus proudly presents
>
> AliasTids 
>
> This is a new approach to aliases with the main benefit that it is very 
> simple
> to use and it doesn't distract your writing: Just type links like normal!
>
> There is a small issue which is *not* part of the main functionality. You 
> can see it
> in the *bonus* tiddler AliasesOverview. I'm announcing this thing anyway
> hoping  that some friendly soul can help out with that issue.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

TonyM wrote:

> Nice idea. If such alias names for tiddlers where searchable like regular 
> titles this could be revolutionary. I imagine the caption field would 
> benefit from such a feature as well.
>

You say "searchable like regular titles" but IMO if you type in an alias 
name the search results should probably only show the real tiddler as a 
result. If you type in some content (from the original tiddler), the alias 
names should probably not show up .

Tobias has crated 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fui%2FAdvancedSearch%2FField which 
adds a tab to the advanced search, for searching in fields.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

2019-07-02 Thread Stephan Hradek

Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 09:46:31 UTC+2 schrieb Xavier:
>
> Hi Stephan,
>
> In order to "flatten" the titles retrieved from the filter, you need to 
> use the *select* attribute of your <$set> widget like so: <$set 
> name="left" filter="[splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- ]]" 
> select=0>
>
>>
>>
Thanks a lot @Xavier. Works perfectly
 

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

h0p3 wrote:
>
> Does your tool differ in a crucial respect from 
> https://mklauber.github.io/tw5-plugins/#Aliases ? 
>

G'dang! I hadn't looked at mklaubers plugin. It does seem very similar... 
and possibly even better, in that clicking an alias navigates to the real 
tiddler. My version shows the content of the real tiddler but uses the 
alias name. I can see how mklaubers variant is better for mentally 
fostering the user to remember the original titles.

I must investigate if I should simply deprecate my variant.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

Any idea? Any simple solution?

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 1:58:54 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
>  Assume you have
>
>- Tid1
>- Tid2
>- Tid3
>- Tid4
>
> User wants to have a *select widget* and choose one Tiddler
>
>1. The action after selection is to add a Tag like *myTag* to selected 
>tiddler
>2. In the next round if user chooses another tiddler, the tag (*myTag*) 
>from previous tiddler shall be removed and new selected tiddler should 
>tagged with *myTag*
>3. and this will be continued
>
>
>- At any time only one tiddler is tagged with *myTag*
>
>
>
> *Pseudo code*
> <$select 
>   tooltip="select a tiddler"
>   tiddler="mystate" 
>   field="myselection"
>   actions=<>
> >
> <$list filter="myfilter" variable="tid">
> > > <> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
> */*Mohammad
>
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[tw5] Re: Iframe tiddlers quirk

Thanks but so where do you put the local path name?

And you've attached a tid to your post, maybe it was supposed to show some 
code but it is just a copy of the post itself - ?

<:-)

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[tw5] Switch a Tag among few tiddlers

 Assume you have

   - Tid1
   - Tid2
   - Tid3
   - Tid4

User wants to have a *select widget* and choose one Tiddler

   1. The action after selection is to add a Tag like *myTag* to selected 
   tiddler
   2. In the next round if user chooses another tiddler, the tag (*myTag*) 
   from previous tiddler shall be removed and new selected tiddler should 
   tagged with *myTag*
   3. and this will be continued


   - At any time only one tiddler is tagged with *myTag*



*Pseudo code*
<$select 
  tooltip="select a tiddler"
  tiddler="mystate" 
  field="myselection"
  actions=<>
>
<$list filter="myfilter" variable="tid">
> > <> 






*/*Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: How can I have the "More" Tabs Side Bar in my Table of Contents?

2019-07-02 Thread Rafael Fontan

I believe that's that tabs macro. You can find the example here 
 where the 2nd and 3rd 
example has a vertical column of tabs. Hope that helps! 

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:50:26 AM UTC-4, Ministrelle wrote:
>
> Basically, I really like how the Sidebar in the "More" Tab looks. This 
> thing:
>
> [image: Screenshot_6.png]
> And I was wondering if there's any way to create one of these for my Table 
> of Contents Tab. The sidebar would then act like categories (like Books, 
> Movies etc.) and within those categories I'd then have normal Table of 
> Contents to sort the content.
> If anyone knows how to do this, I'd really appreciate it.
> Or if anyone knows something similar that would be nice too.
>

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[tw5] How can I have the "More" Tabs Side Bar in my Table of Contents?

2019-07-02 Thread Ministrelle

Basically, I really like how the Sidebar in the "More" Tab looks. This 
thing:

[image: Screenshot_6.png] 
And I was wondering if there's any way to create one of these for my Table 
of Contents Tab. The sidebar would then act like categories (like Books, 
Movies etc.) and within those categories I'd then have normal Table of 
Contents to sort the content.
If anyone knows how to do this, I'd really appreciate it.
Or if anyone knows something similar that would be nice too.

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Re: [tw5] Did I find a bug? Or am I using it wrong?

2019-07-02 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Stephan,

In order to "flatten" the titles retrieved from the filter, you need to use
the *select* attribute of your <$set> widget like so: <$set name="left"
filter="[splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- ]]" select=0>

Cheers,
-- Xavier Cazin


On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 8:44 AM Stephan Hradek 
wrote:

> For my mailto-link I want to supply a tiddlername and a linktext to a
> macro.
>
> For this I thought it would be a good ideat to do it in the form of
>
> {{the tiddler with the mail template -- the linktext||mailto}}
>
> So the idea is to have a mailtext in the tiddler (the tiddler with the
> mail template) and to create a mailto-link of the form
>
> mailto:…;>the linktext
>
> So for this I need to split the text at " -- ", but this only worked,
> when my tiddler's title does not contain a blank. Otherwise it fails.
>
> Here is a simple tiddler for you to test:
>
> <$set name="testtext" value="the tiddler with the mail template -- the
> linktext">
>
> <$set name="left" filter="[splitbefore[ -- ]removesuffix[ -- ]]">
>
> <$set name="right" filter="[removeprefixremoveprefix[ --
> ]]">
>
> Original: <$text text=<>/>
>
> Left of ' -- ': <$text text=<>/>
>
> Right of ' -- ': <$text text=<>/>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> The output is
>
> Original: the tiddler with the mail template -- the linktext
>
>
> Left of ' – ': [[the tiddler with the mail template]]
>
>
> Right of ' – ':
>
> Without spaces the output is
>
> Original: the_tiddler_with_the_mail_template -- the linktext
>
> Left of ' – ': the_tiddler_with_the_mail_template
>
>
> Right of ' – ': [[the linktext]]
>
> So for some reason there are square brackets added to the variable's value
> which will make my nice logic fail.
>
> Is there a way around this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles