date:20200421

Don't miss out that you can use single file TW to generate static wikis 
too, which is much simpler:

   1. Open advanced search, select the Filter tab
   2. Type in "[list[$:/StoryList]rest[]]"
   3. Click the export button and select Static HTML

This could probably be turned in button to permanently show in some corner.

You can also support this proposal: Export panel, including Export current 
story #1687 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag


>
> What does the "tagging[]" thing do?
>


https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#tagging%20Operator 

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

Anne-Laure,

1st impression.Looks good, and you have the ability to simplify the complex, as 
Riya Pabari wrote :-)
You gave me an idea.
There are a few spelling mistakes. Also, the VS Code link links to Hyper.



22 Apr 2020, 05:53 by alecu...@gmail.com:

> Hi everyone — > here 
> >  is a short 
> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

Anne-Laure,

I had a look, although did not action I did follow the details, it looks 
great and I saw no errors.

nice Work
Regards
Tony


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wrote:
>
> Hi everyone — here 
>  is a short 
> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Dave,

Are you saving space for some secret magic? Top of tiddler looks rather big 
now with the tiddler controls moved above title. A little less padding 
perhaps.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

2020-04-21 Thread Chris Aldrich

Busy day! :) I've added your tutorial to the IndieWeb wiki. I'm curious if 
you have an example site to go with it that we could list as well?

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>
> Hi everyone — here 
>  is a short 
> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

Yes, that worked!  Excellent!  Thanks!

What does the "tagging[]" thing do?


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:48:46 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Task]] +[!prefix[context_]]" variable="item">'
>>
>
> I think the problem here is that you  get all tiddlers tagged Task but 
> then remove all tiddlers *titled* with prefix context. Try this:
>
> <$set name=badones filter="[tag[Task]tags[]prefix[Context_]tagging[]]">
> <$list filter="[tag[Task]] -[enlist]"/>
> 
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw5] Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

Hi everyone — here 
 is a short 
tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
feedback or suggestions. Thank you!

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[tw5] Presenting a tiny editor-toolbar-extension: Wrappit

2020-04-21 Thread Jan


Hi fellow Tiddeleurs.
I made a tiny editor-toolbar-extension called Wrappit that can be used 
to use snippets to souround the selection with suffix and prefix with a 
dropdownmenu.

This can be usefull for coding in TW.
It comes with the ability to link the information in Tiddlywiki static.

https://szenio.de/wrappit/

Best wishes Jan



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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

Thanks so much, Mark! Not going to use it for now then, my muscle memory of 
[[*]] is too strong :) Going to gave to get used to html anchor tags for 
external links. Thank you for clarifying!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:33:41 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:19:41 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Now the markdown works but for some reason [[*]] doesn't work anymore. Is 
>> that working as intended?
>>
>>
>>
> I've got some good news and some bad news and some medium news.
>
> You got on board TW at the right time. A month ago markdown on TW didn't 
> acknowledge or use any wikitext (the mark up language used by TW).
>
> Today, with 5.1.22, tiddlers using markdown can use wikitext UNLESS it's 
> markup style conflicts with that of markdown's. Also, it's rendered on a 
> line-by-line basis.
>
> The bad news is that [[*]] conflicts with markdown (or at least that's how 
> I understand it).
>
> The medium news is that widgets don't conflict, so you can use instead:
>
> <$link>My Tiddler
>
> You can also use traditional HTML markup like this:
>
> My tiddler
>
> HTH
>

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

Just signed up to the event, thank you! And I recently discovered fed.wiki 
— definitely can see the inspiration. Andy is known for his passion for 
tools for thoughts so his notebook is probably a mix of all of these + his 
own ideas.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:44:03 PM UTC+1, Chris Aldrich wrote:
>
> I'm sure it's prior art, but Ward Cunningham, the godfather of wikis, 
> created the Smallest Federated Wiki  
> at IndieWebCamp 2011, which looks and acts a lot like Andy's wiki. Here's 
> an example: http://fed.wiki/. If I recall correctly a lot of it was 
> written in node.js and it's available on GitHub for those interested.
>
> Incidentally, for those interested in wiki UI and blue sky ideas, I'm 
> hosting a wiki-related IndieWebCamp session this weekend: 
> https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/gardens-and-streams-wikis-blogs-and-ui-a-pop-up-indiewebcamp-session-j9bg0pJDBgBD
>  
> Everyone is welcome to join and it should be an interesting group of 
> people.
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> I just saw it! Looks amazing. Let's talk about it but I want to include 
>> this in my TW static website generator tutorial, much easier to implement 
>> than the way I went about it. Thank you!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:20:13 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> oh and I just sent you a clunky version I whipped up this afternoon!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>> wrote:

 @David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
 progress !

 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
> know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.
>
> Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all 
> fairly intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number 
> of 
> links, but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at 
> the 
> bottom. I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open 
> one at a time. If you click another link from the original note, the 
> first 
> note you opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The 
> rule makes sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes 
> it 
> confusing to me.
>
> I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, 
> just a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever 
> app he is using.
>
> For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it 
> is nice-looking.
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here 
>> there is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
>> 
>> ,
>> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, 
>> I think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>>
>> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in 
>> empty.html (vanilla version)?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

2020-04-21 Thread Chris Aldrich

I'm sure it's prior art, but Ward Cunningham, the godfather of wikis, 
created the Smallest Federated Wiki  
at IndieWebCamp 2011, which looks and acts a lot like Andy's wiki. Here's 
an example: http://fed.wiki/. If I recall correctly a lot of it was written 
in node.js and it's available on GitHub for those interested.

Incidentally, for those interested in wiki UI and blue sky ideas, I'm 
hosting a wiki-related IndieWebCamp session this weekend: 
https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/gardens-and-streams-wikis-blogs-and-ui-a-pop-up-indiewebcamp-session-j9bg0pJDBgBD

Everyone is welcome to join and it should be an interesting group of people.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> I just saw it! Looks amazing. Let's talk about it but I want to include 
> this in my TW static website generator tutorial, much easier to implement 
> than the way I went about it. Thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:20:13 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> oh and I just sent you a clunky version I whipped up this afternoon!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> @David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
>>> progress !
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:

 I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
 know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.

 Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all 
 fairly intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number 
 of 
 links, but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the 
 bottom. I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open 
 one at a time. If you click another link from the original note, the first 
 note you opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The 
 rule makes sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes 
 it 
 confusing to me.

 I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, 
 just a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever 
 app he is using.

 For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it 
 is nice-looking.

 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here 
> there is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
> 
> ,
> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, 
> I think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>
> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
> (vanilla version)?
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

2020-04-21 Thread Jan


Hi Jed this looks great.
I have some questions
-Am I right that node.js is not needed to host the library, just the 
html-file on a server?
-It would be great to have a button to export the html file. My 
html-file was aproximately one kilometer long which makes it complicated 
to copy it manually.

-What does the command to import a plugin on the other side look like?

Thanks a lot for this invention which could be truueely helpfull for the 
projects I am just working on.


Jan

Am 21.04.2020 um 13:00 schrieb Jed Carty:
Oh, sorry about that. I had another tiddler generate the html file. 
Here is everything in one file, I am also adding it to the plugin 
development repo. The formatting for the html file output isn't great, 
but it should work:


|
\define makeHTML(json)
`







Plugin Library

var assetList = $(JSONLISTING)$

/*\
title: $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/pluginlibrary/libraryserver.js
type: application/javascript
module-type: library

A simple HTTP-over-window.postMessage implementation of a standardTiddlyWeb-compatible server. It uses real HTTP to load the individualtiddler JSON files.


\*/
(function(){

/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */
"use strict";

// Listen for window messages
window.addEventListener("message",function listener(event){
console.log("plugin library: Received message from",event.origin);
console.log("plugin library: Message content",event.data);
switch(event.data.verb) {
case "GET":
if(event.data.url === "recipes/library/tiddlers.json") {
// Route for recipes/library/tiddlers.json
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "200",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "application/json",
body: JSON.stringify(assetList,null,4)
},"*");
} else if(event.data.url.indexOf("recipes/library/tiddlers/") === 0) {

var url = "recipes/library/tiddlers/" +encodeURIComponent(removePrefix(event.data.url,"recipes/library/tiddlers/"));

// Route for recipes/library/tiddlers/.json
httpGet(url,function(err,responseText) {
if(err) {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "404",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "text/plain",
body: "Not found"
},"*");
} else {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "200",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "application/json",
body: responseText
},"*");
}
});
} else {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "404",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "text/plain",
body: "Not found"
},"*");
}
break;
}
},false);

// Helper to remove string prefixes
function removePrefix(string,prefix) {
if(string.indexOf(prefix) === 0) {
return string.substr(prefix.length);
} else {
return string;
}
}

// Helper for HTTP GET
function httpGet(url,callback) {
var http = new XMLHttpRequest();
http.open("GET",url,true);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {
if(http.readyState == 4 && http.status == 200) {
callback(null,http.responseText);
}
};
http.send();
}

})();





HelloThere

This is the TiddlyWiki plugin library. It is not intended to be 
opened directly in the browser.


See https://tiddlywiki.com/; 
target="_blank">https://tiddlywiki.com/ for details of how to 
install plugins.




`
\end

\define oneTiddler()
  <$list
filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
  >

"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",

  
  <$list
filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
  >

"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"

  
\end

\define jsonListing()
[
<$list
filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
  variable=theTiddler
>
  {
  <>
  
  },
  

<$list
filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
  variable=theTiddler
>
  {
  <>
  
  }
  

]
\end

This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format 
needed by a plugin library.


The file structure needs to be:

*Library Folder
** recipes
*** library
 tiddlers
* //individual tiddler json files//
 tiddlers.json
** index.html

filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>


!! tiddlers.json

''filename:'' tiddlers.json

''contents:''

<>

!! Tiddler JSON files:

<$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>

---
''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json

''contents:''

<$text text=<>/>


---
''filename:'' index.html

''contents:''

<$wikify name=JSONLISTING text=<>>

<>


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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

I just saw it! Looks amazing. Let's talk about it but I want to include 
this in my TW static website generator tutorial, much easier to implement 
than the way I went about it. Thank you!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:20:13 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> oh and I just sent you a clunky version I whipped up this afternoon!
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> @David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
>> progress !
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
>>> know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.
>>>
>>> Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all fairly 
>>> intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number of links, 
>>> but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the bottom. 
>>> I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open one at a 
>>> time. If you click another link from the original note, the first note you 
>>> opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The rule makes 
>>> sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes it confusing 
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, 
>>> just a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever 
>>> app he is using.
>>>
>>> For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it is 
>>> nice-looking.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:

 Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here 
 there is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
 
 ,
 Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, I 
 think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!

 Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
 (vanilla version)?


 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:19:41 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Now the markdown works but for some reason [[*]] doesn't work anymore. Is 
> that working as intended?
>
>
>
I've got some good news and some bad news and some medium news.

You got on board TW at the right time. A month ago markdown on TW didn't 
acknowledge or use any wikitext (the mark up language used by TW).

Today, with 5.1.22, tiddlers using markdown can use wikitext UNLESS it's 
markup style conflicts with that of markdown's. Also, it's rendered on a 
line-by-line basis.

The bad news is that [[*]] conflicts with markdown (or at least that's how 
I understand it).

The medium news is that widgets don't conflict, so you can use instead:

<$link>My Tiddler

You can also use traditional HTML markup like this:

My tiddler

HTH

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

oh and I just sent you a clunky version I whipped up this afternoon!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> @David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
> progress !
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
>> know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.
>>
>> Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all fairly 
>> intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number of links, 
>> but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the bottom. 
>> I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open one at a 
>> time. If you click another link from the original note, the first note you 
>> opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The rule makes 
>> sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes it confusing 
>> to me.
>>
>> I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, 
>> just a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever 
>> app he is using.
>>
>> For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it is 
>> nice-looking.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here 
>>> there is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
>>> 
>>> ,
>>> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, I 
>>> think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>>>
>>> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
>>> (vanilla version)?
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

Thanks, Mark! I saved and reloaded, but didn't realise I had to create the 
new tiddlers with the markdown icon or set the type to markdown-x, thank 
you!

Now the markdown works but for some reason [[*]] doesn't work anymore. Is 
that working as intended?

Attaching another screenshot. Thank you!



On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:11:41 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Did you save and reload?
>
> After that, did you use the markdown icon over on the sidebar at the top 
> to make your tiddler?
>
> Or, alternately, set the type to markdown-x (I think that's the name) in 
> the type field at the bottom of the tiddler editor?
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:08:52 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2020-04-21 at 11.07.50 PM.png]
>> I installed the markdown plugin but it's not parsing markdown. Sorry for 
>> the lack of details but I just don't know where to begin to look. I've 
>> attached a screenshot. Thank you!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

@David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
progress !

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
> know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.
>
> Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all fairly 
> intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number of links, 
> but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the bottom. 
> I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open one at a 
> time. If you click another link from the original note, the first note you 
> opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The rule makes 
> sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes it confusing 
> to me.
>
> I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, just 
> a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever app he 
> is using.
>
> For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it is 
> nice-looking.
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here there 
>> is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
>> 
>> ,
>> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, I 
>> think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>>
>> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
>> (vanilla version)?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Markdown plugin doesn't work

Did you save and reload?

After that, did you use the markdown icon over on the sidebar at the top to 
make your tiddler?

Or, alternately, set the type to markdown-x (I think that's the name) in 
the type field at the bottom of the tiddler editor?

Good luck!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:08:52 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2020-04-21 at 11.07.50 PM.png]
> I installed the markdown plugin but it's not parsing markdown. Sorry for 
> the lack of details but I just don't know where to begin to look. I've 
> attached a screenshot. Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Markdown plugin doesn't work



[image: Screenshot 2020-04-21 at 11.07.50 PM.png]
I installed the markdown plugin but it's not parsing markdown. Sorry for 
the lack of details but I just don't know where to begin to look. I've 
attached a screenshot. Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag


>
> <$list filter="[tag[Task]] +[!prefix[context_]]" variable="item">'
>

I think the problem here is that you  get all tiddlers tagged Task but then 
remove all tiddlers *titled* with prefix context. Try this:

<$set name=badones filter="[tag[Task]tags[]prefix[Context_]tagging[]]">
<$list filter="[tag[Task]] -[enlist]"/>


<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Rethinking tiddlywiki.com

Yoni,

I do not disagree with the outcome you desire, but I would suggest that the 
only limitations are ours by design. 

The display of hiding controls is trivial once you find the right plugin or 
discover how tiddlywiki works. This can even be automated such as using the 
innerwiki plugin to generate a fresh tiddlywiki containing only the 
selected additional tiddlers. You could make a tiddlywiki file factory. 

Tiddlywikis strength is in its interactions its cross referencing and 
customisability. Static sites are somewhat limited in their capabilities 
although you could work on this to generate any kind of site. To me the 
only serious value in static sites is improving SEO and then redirecting 
users into the interactive site where the magic can happen, though some 
reference sites forming a knowledge base may benefit eg 
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Filter%2520Operators.html

   - Adding the splash screen helps with load times
   - Loading ones whole site in the browser is a major performance booster 
   over many different sight technologies.
   - Careful design could use multiple wikis to form a single internet site

   1. - Create a HOSTED public TiddlyWiki
   2. - Make the wiki ReadOnly
   3. - Make all controls hidden and hide all TiddlyWiki specific 
   components (basically the whole right side bar)
   4. - Create a navigation / menu / header
   5. - The wiki should be visible to search engines, have normal 
   permalinking and should be easy to add google analytics tag (already 
   available)
   6. - There should be a normal intuitive way for me as the wiki owner to 
   login and save 

All of the above can be done quite easy with only 5 and 6 offering more of 
a challenge. Solutions to which I have being researching for some time.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:36:08 PM UTC+10, Yoni Balkind wrote:
>
> @ TonyM 
>>
>> On Static Sites and a Path to them from TiddlyWiki.com
>>
>> The current static site template refers from one static page to the 
>> other. Personally I believe the better alternative is to generate static 
>> tiddlers for a whole site whos links will open the full wiki. The point 
>> being the static pages end up in search engines but once found we want it 
>> to open the interactive wiki. This needs to be possible on top pof single 
>> file wikis without a need to use Node command lines.
>>
>> The reason I say this is for people wanting their use of tiddlywiki as a 
>> website need it to be searchable in the internet.
>>
>> I believe there should be a simple path to this available on 
>> tiddlywiki.com
>>
>
> I'm a brand new user so I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the full 
> wiki makes it difficult (or nearly impossible) to hide all the controls and 
> to make the wiki look like a blog. That is why for my use case (trying to 
> create a blog) the static solution seems the best route currently. 
>
> This also speaks to @Mohammed's proposed beginners guide:
>
> There should be an easy way for a brand new user to do the following:
>
> - Create a HOSTED public TiddlyWiki
> - Make the wiki ReadOnly
> - Make all controls hidden and hide all TiddlyWiki specific components 
> (basically the whole right side bar)
> - Create a navigation / menu / header
> - The wiki should be visible to search engines, have normal permalinkng 
> and should be easy to add google analytics tag
> - There should be a normal intuitive way for me as the wiki owner to login 
> and save 
>
> I believe that a getting started guide should cater for this use case in a 
> fool proof way, and should be more or less as easy as setting up Wordpress. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Newbie to Tiddlywiki - need some help with understanding CSS please

2020-04-21 Thread Philip Bracey

Hi there - thanks for the idea with this - I have looked at creating fields 
but I just get lost - if you ask me to create a web page using html and css 
then I am away - but tiddlywiki is not the same and I just have no idea how 
to approach this - data entry fields would be fantastic - once I know how I 
am sure I will fly with this

Can you help?

Thanks

Phil

On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 13:14:05 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Phil
>
> Have you tried editing a tiddler and creating fields at the bottom. This 
> is a quick way to do what you want out of the box.
>
> I can then show you how to make the field viewable and we can give you 
> more support to build whatever you want
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

That last bit about tagging the category tags with a status tag is 
interesting.  Do you have the filter for getting those tags via the 
listWidget?

And I'd have to also be able to list any tiddlers tagged "Task" that didn't 
have a tag with a category that was status tagged, as well.  Which is our 
current predicament here, too.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:43:30 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> David
>
> When at my desktop I will make it work.
>
> I can also share the way I manage contexts.
>
> Fyi I like the fact tags can be made into tiddlers and then sometimes use 
> the tag tiddler to list the tiddlers so tagged. In that case they do become 
> compound keys. 
>
> I am talking here of an ideal organising method so its not a criticism of 
> what you are doing just an illustration.
>
> Another way to "categorise tags" is to tag them. An example would be tag 
> new done canceled closed tags with the "status" tag. Then when listing tags 
> on the current tiddler you can test if a given tag is itself tagged status, 
> then you can identify the status tag(s). On in fact there is no status tag 
> on the current tiddler.
>
> Enjoy
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

David

When at my desktop I will make it work.

I can also share the way I manage contexts.

Fyi I like the fact tags can be made into tiddlers and then sometimes use the 
tag tiddler to list the tiddlers so tagged. In that case they do become 
compound keys. 

I am talking here of an ideal organising method so its not a criticism of what 
you are doing just an illustration.

Another way to "categorise tags" is to tag them. An example would be tag new 
done canceled closed tags with the "status" tag. Then when listing tags on the 
current tiddler you can test if a given tag is itself tagged status, then you 
can identify the status tag(s). On in fact there is no status tag on the 
current tiddler.

Enjoy
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Thanks, yes, Birthe!




On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:42 PM Birthe C  wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Tooltip, you have create new journal tagged with this one. But it doesn't
> really. Should it not be create new journal linked to this one?
>
> Birthe
>
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Dave,

Tooltip, you have create new journal tagged with this one. But it doesn't 
really. Should it not be create new journal linked to this one?

Birthe


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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I know 
Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.

Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all fairly 
intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number of links, 
but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the bottom. 
I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open one at a 
time. If you click another link from the original note, the first note you 
opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The rule makes 
sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes it confusing 
to me.

I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, just 
a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever app he 
is using.

For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it is 
nice-looking.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here there 
> is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
> 
> ,
> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, I 
> think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>
> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
> (vanilla version)?
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Hi Saq

Thanks for your input.

FYI, your @media solution made no observable change. (I thought @media was 
for printing instructions?)

Regarding close others: I think a simple instruction that the close others 
button only closes tiddlers in that river is sufficient.

Regarding imitating Roam: I like the current set up we have, much of Roam 
functionality, but presented in a TiddlyWiki way. I don't feel the need to 
imitate Roam further than that. The instructions will make it clear how to 
use it in ways similar to Roam.

To be honest, the only changes I think I would like are:

1) *If possible*, reduce that space between rivers when sidebar closed
2) *If possible*, have the top of the tiddler that opens in the story river 
be flush with the top of the left tiddler top when opening the former with 
shift-click. The scrollbar opens slightly down from the top.
3) Tooltips (I was looking into that when I saw your email come in)
4) I will reduce the number of themes available in the theme switcher
5) I will do tutorial videos and organize the front page and necessary 
written instructions
6) I will separate the instructions version and an empty version, a la 
tiddlywiki.com

Blessings, Saq.


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:50:48 PM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> For issue #1, gap between stories, try adding this at the bottom 
> of $:/_sq/Stories/Stories.css. I haven't had a chance to test this properly 
> and won't have a chance to put out an update for a few days yet, but I 
> suspect its the culprit for issue #1. Zoomin storyview has slightly 
> different css, which I have never noticed since I don't use it.
>
> @media (min-width: 
> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) {
> .tc-storyview-zoomin-tiddler {
> width: calc(100% - 42px);
> }
> }
>
>
> For the issue of the close others button, as Dave has discovered, they 
> only work for the tiddlers in that story. Should they close tiddlers in the 
> other story too? I don't know. There are valid arguments for both 
> behaviours. It really depends highly on the workflow you envision. I 
> suspect there will be no clear answers until a few people use this in anger 
> and report back.
>
> Regarding needing a wide window, and comparisons to Roam etc:
>
> It honestly boils down to what we are trying to do here. Are we trying to 
> copy and duplicate the Roam UI? Or are we taking inspiration from it, to 
> offer better affordance for some of the same features and workflow in TW?
>
> It would be incredibly easy to get closer to the Roam UI: narrower second 
> story with no margin or padding on the left, without tiddler toolbar just 
> the x button to close etc. All that is needed is CSS and tweaking some 
> templates. However that would also reduce the amount of flexibilty in 
> workflow offered. Right now the second story can do everything that the 
> first one can. 
>
> In many ways, this is the same dilemma TW always faces. Simplify to make 
> it easier to get started and enable a narrow selection of workflows, or 
> keep it as flexibile as possible but at the cost of more complexity? 
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30:36 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
>> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
>> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>>
>> Known things to fix:
>>
>> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open *(we will probably 
>> leave this alone for now, very minor issue)*
>> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start 
>> a new column *(fixed: problem was a width setting)*
>> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly* (I just need to 
>> explain in instructions that it only works within the same story, not 
>> across stories)*
>> 4) Completely redo the instructions. *(I plan to do video instructions)*
>>
>> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

I don't have compound titles.

These are just tags.  And I feel like I have to use a prefix on the tag for 
contexts to differentiate that tag from other tags.  For instance, if I 
have a todo task that should be done at home, I will tag it "Task" and 
"Context_Home"... two tags.  If I tag it "Task" and "Home", then how do I 
know if that "Home" tag is a context, or some other thing related to "Home"?

--

Also, thank you for your attempt, butwith your filter, tiddlers are being 
returned that have a tag of "Context_Home" for instance.  (And yes, I did 
correct yours to be the right caps.)  Maybe it's looking at the "Task" tag 
and saying "yes, the Task tag doesn't have that prefix, so I'll fetch that 
one."

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>
> David
>
> I argued elsewhere recently to avoid compound keys in titles, but since 
> that's what you have try;
>
> '
> <$list filter="[tag[Task]] +[!prefix[context_]]" variable="item">'
>
> which list all items taged task and for each of these tests the prefix. 
> Untested!
>
> tony
>
>

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[tw5] Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

2020-04-21 Thread Mohammad

Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here there 
is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 

,
Some people says it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, I 
think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!

Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
(vanilla version)?


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

2020-04-21 Thread Saq Imtiaz

For issue #1, gap between stories, try adding this at the bottom 
of $:/_sq/Stories/Stories.css. I haven't had a chance to test this properly 
and won't have a chance to put out an update for a few days yet, but I 
suspect its the culprit for issue #1. Zoomin storyview has slightly 
different css, which I have never noticed since I don't use it.

@media (min-width: 
{{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) {
.tc-storyview-zoomin-tiddler {
width: calc(100% - 42px);
}
}

For the issue of the close others button, as Dave has discovered, they only 
work for the tiddlers in that story. Should they close tiddlers in the 
other story too? I don't know. There are valid arguments for both 
behaviours. It really depends highly on the workflow you envision. I 
suspect there will be no clear answers until a few people use this in anger 
and report back.

Regarding needing a wide window, and comparisons to Roam etc:

It honestly boils down to what we are trying to do here. Are we trying to 
copy and duplicate the Roam UI? Or are we taking inspiration from it, to 
offer better affordance for some of the same features and workflow in TW?

It would be incredibly easy to get closer to the Roam UI: narrower second 
story with no margin or padding on the left, without tiddler toolbar just 
the x button to close etc. All that is needed is CSS and tweaking some 
templates. However that would also reduce the amount of flexibilty in 
workflow offered. Right now the second story can do everything that the 
first one can. 

In many ways, this is the same dilemma TW always faces. Simplify to make it 
easier to get started and enable a narrow selection of workflows, or keep 
it as flexibile as possible but at the cost of more complexity? 

Regards,
Saq

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30:36 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>
> Known things to fix:
>
> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open *(we will probably 
> leave this alone for now, very minor issue)*
> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
> new column *(fixed: problem was a width setting)*
> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly* (I just need to 
> explain in instructions that it only works within the same story, not 
> across stories)*
> 4) Completely redo the instructions. *(I plan to do video instructions)*
>
> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
>

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[tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

2020-04-21 Thread Stef S



On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:44:32 PM UTC+2, Stef S wrote:
>
>
> The following quick fix worked for me:
>
>
Alternatively, you could also open your upgraded TW, retrieve 
$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags 
via Advanced Search/Shadows, delete this tiddler and then run my code as 
described above. 

Cheers,

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[tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

2020-04-21 Thread Stef S

Hi,

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:55:55 PM UTC+2, HC Haase wrote:
>
> I use this every day. so good. but it don´t work in the new tw 5.1.22 :(
>
> can you update it ??
>

Just took a look at this. My code appears to work fine when I use it in a 
brand new TW 5.1.22. However, there was an issue when I tried to upgrade an 
existing TW *after *making the changes described above. 

The following quick fix worked for me:

   - Try upgrading your TW again. This time, uncheck the tiddler 
   $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags before finishing the upgrade.
   - Open your upgraded TW, put my code into a new tiddler and press the 
   button.

Please let me know if it worked!

Cheers,

Stef

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[tw5] Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

David

I argued elsewhere recently to avoid compound keys in titles, but since that's 
what you have try;

'
<$list filter="[tag[Task]] +[!prefix[context_]]" variable="item">'

which list all items taged task and for each of these tests the prefix. 
Untested!

tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Ah, and the tiddlers not opening at the right height, that is from Saq's
story thing. I will see if I can wade through them to find the problem.

David Gifford
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mat  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing stuff!
>
> I would like tooltips for all buttons: I've so far only looked at the
> tiddler tools and there's a curved arrow and a plus that has no tooltip.
>
> Minor but I seem to need to shift-click twice on a link to get the two
> rivers to appear. And as it appears, the two rivers are at different height
> from the top edge.
>
> Idea: Maybe the sidebar lists should be on each side of the respective
> river? I have never used TB in action so I don't know the workflow but the
> current Open tab seems impractical where the two title lists are shown
> below one another.
>
> Since you're creating a new overall app, maybe it's worth considering this
>  aspect on
> navigation.
>
> Question: Is there a practical reason for the change of theme/palette or
> merely aesthetic? For a full on application that it seems you're striving
> for,  I can understand
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Hi Mat

See my comments in *bold*

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mat  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing stuff!
>

*You are welcome!*

>
> I would like tooltips for all buttons: I've so far only looked at the
> tiddler tools and there's a curved arrow and a plus that has no tooltip.
>

*Ah yes! Tooltips! Forgot about those. I will add those.*

>
> Minor but I seem to need to shift-click twice on a link to get the two
> rivers to appear. And as it appears, the two rivers are at different height
> from the top edge.
>

*No, just hold shift, then click once. Just tried it again to be sure.
Browser issue? Also, try shift+Alt+S.*

>
> Idea: Maybe the sidebar lists should be on each side of the respective
> river? I have never used TB in action so I don't know the workflow but the
> current Open tab seems impractical where the two title lists are shown
> below one another.
>

*The left story will only ever have one tiddler when both stories are open.
The right story is a story river that can have multiple tiddlers. So the
top of the right pane in the Open tab will never get hidden out of sight.*

>
> Since you're creating a new overall app, maybe it's worth considering this
>  aspect on
> navigation.
>

*I feel the same way you do. When closing a tiddler you should be navigated
to the top of the previous tiddler, typically the top of the tiddler above
the tiddler being closed. Irks me to no end at tiddlywiki.com
. Is there a setting you recommend? Or a plugin?*

>
> Question: Is there a practical reason for the change of theme/palette or
> merely aesthetic? For a full on application that it seems you're striving
> for,  I can understand
>

*Just aesthetic. There is a theme switcher in the gear sidebar tab, though.
I may remove all the dark themes and just stick with tiddlyblink theme,
vanilla, and one or two others.*

*Thank you for your feedback!*

>
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[tw5] Re: Autofill Tab Captions, Tooltips and Order fields...across Excised content?

2020-04-21 Thread leeand00

Okay...sorry Tony (I think I updated it above, but just in case I did not):

<$button>

<$set name="whichTiddlerTag" value=<> >
<$list filter="[tagcount[]]">
   <$list filter="[rangesubtract[1]]">
  <$set name="whichTiddler" filter="[tag]" select=<
> >
  <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="caption" 
$value=<> />
  <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="tooltip" 
$value=<> />
  <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="order" 
$value=<> />




Set Tab Order, Tooltips and Captions


The button defined above will not work (assign caption, tooltip, order) 
when in draft mode because it can't find anything tagged with the title of 
the tiddler, so if you press it when you're editing nothing happens.  If 
you press it when you're not editing it works.

I guess I want to be able to make it work when and when not editing.  

The goal is to make setting the captions (incremental number), tooltips 
(title caption) and order(incremental number) of the other tiddlers tagged 
with the currentTiddlers title have these fields so that when they are 
displayed as tabs they have numbers instead of titles, but you can still 
see them in the tooltips (also they are ordered, provided you use a filter 
for the tables like "[tagsort[order]".

On Monday, 20 April 2020 21:33:35 UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Perhaps reshare your fixed code so we can test it on tiddlywiki.com and 
> see if we understand your problem!
>
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:38:24 AM UTC+10, leeand00 wrote:
>>
>> Okay nevermind; I got it; I found the subtract filter operator works 
>> great if you don't mind your tabs starting at 0; and I fixed it in the code 
>> above.
>>
>> On Monday, 20 April 2020 15:31:31 UTC-4, leeand00 wrote:
>>>
>>> When I read something, and I throw it into the wiki, I have a tendency 
>>> to chunk it into smaller examples...
>>>
>>> When I do this I use the "Excise" functionality to split the long text 
>>> out; it works great but...when I want to split it into tabs the tabs show 
>>> up with their full titles, and I'd prefer if I didn't have to go to every 
>>> single tiddler and add a caption, tooltip and order for ever single one; so 
>>> in looking into this I wrote the following macro so that they are 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <$button>
>>> 
>>> <$set name="whichTiddlerTag" value=<> >
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[tagcount[]subtract[1]]">
>>> 
>>><$list filter="[range]">
>>> 
>>>   <$set name="whichTiddler" filter="[tag]" select=<
>>> > >
>>> 
>>>   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> 
>>> $field="caption" $value=<> />
>>>   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> 
>>> $field="tooltip" $value=<> />
>>>   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> 
>>> $field="order" $value=<> />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Set Tab Order, Tooltips and Captions
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> The script sort of works...not exactly...the first tiddler is always 
>>> skipped, I'm assuming because the select attribute of $set under 4. 
>>> wants to start with 0 instead of 1 and I don't know how to decrement it 
>>> though there are a number of Mathematical operators that have been added to 
>>> Tiddlywiki since I last looked at it.
>>>
>>> But anyway making this work would save massive amounts of time in 
>>> wikiing, any suggestions on how to make this work?
>>>
>>> Also the currentTiddler variable and how it changes makes the code 
>>> almost unreadable!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Using Tags as Categories - How to Show No Category Tag

I created a todo list tiddler system that was working well, except it was 
using categories (i.e. location contexts) based off of fields in the task 
item tiddlers.

I decided to switch to tag-based categories, and all my categories are 
named with a context prefix: "Context_Home", "Context_Out", 
"Context_Computer".
that way, I can check a task for it's context by using the prefix operator 
and group them that way.  That is working well.

But, in case I ever forget to put a context tag on a task tiddler, I want 
to put those at the bottom of the list in their own separate 
header/category: "No Context Supplied" or something like that.

What I have so far is this, and it's not working

<$list filter="[!has:tags[]prefix[Context_]tag[Task]]" variable="item">

Here's what I'm trying to do:

*Show tiddlers that do have the tag of "Task", but do NOT have a tag that 
starts with "Context_"*

You guys have been so helpful!  Thanks for all the wisdom.  This todo list 
is really helping me get things done, because it's helping to group things 
by where I am when I need to do them!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?

2020-04-21 Thread Chris Aldrich

I'm not sure what you mean by "the bit with the link is not quite right". 
Do you have an example you could share so we might replicate what you're 
seeing?  Could you let me know what you might expect? (I'll admit I was 
doing this incredibly late at night and haven't battle tested it against 
the hundreds of links I typically would, particularly in hopes that someone 
would do something like this: https://nesslabs.com/roam-research-bookmarklet
).

I've already seen a few websites that include a `|` character in their 
titles, and those require a manual tweak to make sure the links work 
appropriately once you've saved your Tiddler.

Most of the code was straightforward enough for me to figure out based on a 
handful of examples I was able to find. (I know no JavaScript.) Most of the 
confusing portions for the formatting are really just knowing the proper 
escape characters and html entities so that when you cut and paste them you 
get the correct results. You can find a list of html entities at many sites 
including https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html and having that 
as a cheat sheet should allow you to get things to work exactly the way 
you'd like to have them if you want to tinker around.

I have a suspicion that someone with more JavaScript skills than I might be 
able to:
* allow for cutting and pasting of a full HTML version of text from a 
website (to get the links and other top level html tags as well)
* potentially include a "key" to a particular TW5 instance's location (URL) 
so that instead of needing to cut and pasting, the entirety of the 
cut/pasted content and details are automatically be sent to one's TW and 
entered into a new Tiddler.
* These would potentially allow the bookmarklet to be built into TW core so 
that new users could drag and drop a link from a Tiddler (perhaps from a 
tab in the Control Panel) into their browser bar that would "just work"™.

I also did things from a relatively basic boiler plate and then gradually 
tweaked them step-by-step to get the output I wanted. If you want my 
scratch pad and some hints or alternate versions, here's a useful Tiddler: 
http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20experiments 

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:22:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Chris, very useful bookmarklet, thanks, I love bookmarklets :-)
>
> 1 small suggestion of correction: the bit with the link is not quite 
> right, visually, although the link works. I looked at the JS but could not 
> see where the correction should be made - I am a JS dummy, as well as a TW 
> dummy :-(
>
>
> 21 Apr 2020, 12:54 by christoph...@gmail.com :
>
> Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or 
> just didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 
>
> Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to 
> his and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, 
> mine will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the 
> bookmarklet to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of 
> the highlighted text and a pre-formatted link to the source.
>
> Details here: 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
> Other ideas for doing this sort of thing are more than welcome, and if 
> anyone has further ideas or improvements, I'm sure we'd all love to hear 
> them. Surely there's an easier way...
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have a bookmarklet you can try. Might not be as smooth as those others 
> but it works.
>
> https://techlifeweb.com/tw5tribalknowledge.html#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20links%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM UTC-7, Yif Dai wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I find web clipper (Evernote, Notion, etc.) really handy.  The drawbacks 
> of those web clippers are that they are tied to third-party services.  I 
> wonder if you know any standalone web clippers or can offer some workaround 
> so that I can easily clip web pages into TiddlyWiki.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yif
>
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[tw5] Re: Help using the sum operator

2020-04-21 Thread Reaktorblue

I was able to answer my question using the below code.

$<$text text={{{ [tag{!!title}get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>

I do like the idea of trying that in a macro though. It looks like it could 
clean up some of the code if I did it via a macro. Are macro's available 
throughout the entire tiddlywiki or are they only available to the tiddler 
they're defined in?

Sadly, I still haven't found a nice way to use the draggable method to 
reorder task list items, such that I still have a checkbox and number 
associated with it but I'll keep looking otherwise. Thanks for the 
response, it's given me a bit to think about!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:44:05 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> How are you building your table? It's possible to build it with nested 
> lists, making the entirety automated. But I digress.
>
> You probably want a macro
>
> So at the top of your tiddler you might have this:
>
> \define cost(expense) $<$text text={{{ [tag[$expense$]get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>
>
> which can be invoked like this:
>
> <>
>
> and changed around for other costs by handing it a different parameter:
>
> <>
>
> <
>
> etc.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:41:46 AM UTC-7, Reaktorblue wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on a project and had a few questions. I have several tiddlers 
>> listed as categories and tasks of that category.
>>
>> For example, I may have:
>>
>>
>>- tiddler title: Car Repair
>>- tiddler tag: Category
>>
>>
>>- tiddler title: Oil Change
>>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>>- tiddler field: cost, value: 30.00
>>
>>
>>- tiddler title: New Tires
>>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>>- tiddler field: cost, value: 300.00
>>
>>
>>- tiddler title: New Passenger Side Mirror
>>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>>- tiddler field: cost, value: 60.00
>>
>>
>> 1) I'm using the following to return $390.00 when viewing the "Car 
>> Repair" tab which indicates three tiddlers, "Oil Change", "New Tires", and 
>> "New Passenger Side Mirror"
>>
>> Total Cost: $<$text text={{{ [tagget[cost]sum[]] }}}/>
>>
>> The code works perfectly however, in another tiddler, I made a table to 
>> show me all the categories. Is it possible to change the code so the table 
>> indicates the sum of the cost field of all the tiddlers tagged with the 
>> title of the tiddler listed in that row? For example, my table should have 
>> a row indicating "Car Repair" as the tiddler title the next cell I would 
>> like to have should indicate the total sum of cost, from all the tiddlers 
>> tagged "Car Repair". I believe the following will work however, I was 
>> hoping to not explicitly assign it to "Car Repair" so that it will update 
>> for all rows that the table generates.
>>
>> $<$text text={{{ [tag[Car Repair]get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>
>>
>> 2) Is it possible to use an ordered list when using the 
>> list-links-draggable macro instead of an unordered list or is it possible 
>> to use list-links-draggable with a table so that the table rows are 
>> draggable too?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Help using the sum operator

How are you building your table? It's possible to build it with nested 
lists, making the entirety automated. But I digress.

You probably want a macro

So at the top of your tiddler you might have this:

\define cost(expense) $<$text text={{{ [tag[$expense$]get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>

which can be invoked like this:

<>

and changed around for other costs by handing it a different parameter:

<>

<

etc.


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:41:46 AM UTC-7, Reaktorblue wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on a project and had a few questions. I have several tiddlers 
> listed as categories and tasks of that category.
>
> For example, I may have:
>
>
>- tiddler title: Car Repair
>- tiddler tag: Category
>
>
>- tiddler title: Oil Change
>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>- tiddler field: cost, value: 30.00
>
>
>- tiddler title: New Tires
>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>- tiddler field: cost, value: 300.00
>
>
>- tiddler title: New Passenger Side Mirror
>- tiddler tag: Car Repair
>- tiddler field: cost, value: 60.00
>
>
> 1) I'm using the following to return $390.00 when viewing the "Car Repair" 
> tab which indicates three tiddlers, "Oil Change", "New Tires", and "New 
> Passenger Side Mirror"
>
> Total Cost: $<$text text={{{ [tagget[cost]sum[]] }}}/>
>
> The code works perfectly however, in another tiddler, I made a table to 
> show me all the categories. Is it possible to change the code so the table 
> indicates the sum of the cost field of all the tiddlers tagged with the 
> title of the tiddler listed in that row? For example, my table should have 
> a row indicating "Car Repair" as the tiddler title the next cell I would 
> like to have should indicate the total sum of cost, from all the tiddlers 
> tagged "Car Repair". I believe the following will work however, I was 
> hoping to not explicitly assign it to "Car Repair" so that it will update 
> for all rows that the table generates.
>
> $<$text text={{{ [tag[Car Repair]get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>
>
> 2) Is it possible to use an ordered list when using the 
> list-links-draggable macro instead of an unordered list or is it possible 
> to use list-links-draggable with a table so that the table rows are 
> draggable too?
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Thanks for sharing stuff!

I would like tooltips for all buttons: I've so far only looked at the 
tiddler tools and there's a curved arrow and a plus that has no tooltip.

Minor but I seem to need to shift-click twice on a link to get the two 
rivers to appear. And as it appears, the two rivers are at different height 
from the top edge.

Idea: Maybe the sidebar lists should be on each side of the respective 
river? I have never used TB in action so I don't know the workflow but the 
current Open tab seems impractical where the two title lists are shown 
below one another. 

Since you're creating a new overall app, maybe it's worth considering this 
 aspect on navigation.

Question: Is there a practical reason for the change of theme/palette or 
merely aesthetic? For a full on application that it seems you're striving 
for,  I can understand 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: How to tweak viewtemplate tiddlers so they fold / unfold

Thanks Julio!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:47:30 PM UTC-5, Julio Peña wrote:
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> Hey David,
>
> Tiddlyblink looking real polished there.
> I likes! Can't wait for the finished product.
>
> Regards,
> Julio
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[tw5] Re: How to tweak viewtemplate tiddlers so they fold / unfold

2020-04-21 Thread Julio Peña

Hey David,

Tiddlyblink looking real polished there.
I likes! Can't wait for the finished product.

Regards,
Julio

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[tw5] Help using the sum operator

2020-04-21 Thread Reaktorblue

Hello,

I'm working on a project and had a few questions. I have several tiddlers 
listed as categories and tasks of that category.

For example, I may have:


   - tiddler title: Car Repair
   - tiddler tag: Category


   - tiddler title: Oil Change
   - tiddler tag: Car Repair
   - tiddler field: cost, value: 30.00


   - tiddler title: New Tires
   - tiddler tag: Car Repair
   - tiddler field: cost, value: 300.00


   - tiddler title: New Passenger Side Mirror
   - tiddler tag: Car Repair
   - tiddler field: cost, value: 60.00
   

1) I'm using the following to return $390.00 when viewing the "Car Repair" 
tab which indicates three tiddlers, "Oil Change", "New Tires", and "New 
Passenger Side Mirror"

Total Cost: $<$text text={{{ [tagget[cost]sum[]] }}}/>

The code works perfectly however, in another tiddler, I made a table to 
show me all the categories. Is it possible to change the code so the table 
indicates the sum of the cost field of all the tiddlers tagged with the 
title of the tiddler listed in that row? For example, my table should have 
a row indicating "Car Repair" as the tiddler title the next cell I would 
like to have should indicate the total sum of cost, from all the tiddlers 
tagged "Car Repair". I believe the following will work however, I was 
hoping to not explicitly assign it to "Car Repair" so that it will update 
for all rows that the table generates.

$<$text text={{{ [tag[Car Repair]get[cost]sum[]] }}}/>

2) Is it possible to use an ordered list when using the 
list-links-draggable macro instead of an unordered list or is it possible 
to use list-links-draggable with a table so that the table rows are 
draggable too?

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

OK Birthe, clear. Thanks again.


21 Apr 2020, 20:25 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
> It is part of a plugin among the many Ton Gerner has made.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

Peter,
It is part of a plugin among the many Ton Gerner has made.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:58:10 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:43:29 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> "cool product but I just can't deal with the name"
>>>
>> We did a lot of discussion, what are the barriers you cannot think about 
>> a new name? What are the issues cannot addressed if you use a new name?
>> I recommend to take the risk and go for new name
>>
>
> Out of all the comments posted on Product Hunt, *one* person said 
> something about the name, and didn't explain any further than "just can't 
> deal"...
>
>
That's the person who took the time to explain. It's likely there were 
hundreds, or thousands, who didn't do that much.

People have busy lives. They use short-cut thinking. If you have a product 
name that says, in their vernacular,  "not a serious product", they will 
ignore it. Their thinking is rational, though subconscious: "If the author 
gives the product a non-serious name, the author must not be serious about 
the product."  To about 350 million English speaking people, "tiddler" 
doesn't mean "small fish". That leaves it up to their imagination to fill 
in the gaps.

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

Thanks a lot, Birthe, he has some interesting plug-ins, of which I installed 
the Tiddler bar.
The tiddler you link to has this in its title field: 
$:/plugins/tg/toolbar/tagging

What should I do with that?
21 Apr 2020, 18:36 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> I like to use this > 
> http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftg%2Ftoolbar%2Ftagging
> I think the Tiddlerinfo Panel easily gets overcrowded.
>
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.12.16 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
>> Thanks HC. For me it does not work either: there is no edit tags bar in the 
>> info section of a tiddler.
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>>>
>>>
>>> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 13.09.05 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>>>
 @Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use 
 your code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler 
 with that code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.




>>> yes just put it in a tiddler, save it and press the button that you just 
>>> made. then in any tiddler press the info button, press the edit tags tab 
>>> and tag away. BUT (for me at least) it do not work any more in the new tw 
>>> 5.1.22 as mentioned.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki is live on Product Hunt

@Eric! Absolutely - any software that manages to maintain a thriving 
community for 15 years is a massive success!

I do think though TW could become much more mainstream. Roam 
 themselves openly admitted 
 to have been heavily 
inspired by TW, and the main things they tweaked at this stage (they have 
big plans, but as of today) is the marketing and onboarding. The result? 
Many people who never took any digital notes before starting doing so.

While of course these kind of networked thinking tools are not for 
everyone, I think many more people would benefit from discovering TW. I'm a 
big fan personally and had never heard about it until a week ago :)

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:17:43 AM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> One of the problems for new users was already said many years ago by 
> Tiddlertoddler 
> 
>  
> .
> Citation: "It's a bit like being on the wrong bus at 4pm on the way out of 
> Katowice, Poland - you know you're going somewhere, you're just not sure 
> where or whether there'll be food and a bed there."
>
> It is necessary to try it out and do it for quite some time to really fall 
> in love with it (then you will of course be dependent)
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Good catch, Birthe. I prefer a keyboard shortcut any time.


21 Apr 2020, 18:20 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Dave
> In tiddler > TiddlyBlink home 
> >
>   you expain how to shift og clik a link and how to close overlapping sidebar 
> > with the double arrow icon at the top right of the screen. Remember 
> Shift-alt-S will also do that.
>
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 16.30.36 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
>> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
>> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/>> experiments/tiddlyblink.>> experiment.html
>>
>> Known things to fix:
>>
>> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
>> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
>> new column
>> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
>> 4) Completely redo the instructions.
>>
>> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Thanks Tony. I have to digest that and see how I can use it.

21 Apr 2020, 17:23 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com:

> Peter
>
> One advantage of Mario's TOCP is you can do the equivalent of new here which 
> tags the children with the the current tiddler. 
>
> With tocp new with parent sets the parent field of new children to the 
> current tiddler. Given any random tiddler you can look at the parent field 
> and identify its only parent. So you can work you're way back up the tree to 
> parent, grand parent etc... With tags there may be more than one tag so in a 
> way you have multiple parents, bob may be your parent but how do you know the 
> parent is not task or done or the other tags?
>
> Of course you can also list all tiddlers with the current tiddler in the 
> parent field to find all children.
> Also in any tiddler you can display {{!!parent}} to see what's in the parent 
> field and even better put the display of this field in a tiddler tagged view 
> template.
>
> So you can see in this example you can build the equivalent of the toc 
> without a tag for each tiddler in that toc and you know exactly who the 
> parent is. 
>
> Mario provides other tools to make use of the TOCP and the parent field.
>
> So you can see by using additional field like parent your wiki could contain 
> multiple hierarchies at one time if you wanted.
>
> I hope this helps.
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> Regards
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Good to hear things are no longer jumping!

I think since that is only fixable by changing the plugin and is only 
viewable when using that tab of advanced search, I should let it be and 
hope Danielo will update his plugin with that change.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Dave,
> I see the big X in $:/AdvancedSearch - tab Context search.
> The tiddler controls are not jumping any more. I saw it earlier on.
>
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.37.31 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi Birthe, see my replies in* bold*
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when 
>>> it should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.
>>>
>>  
>
>>
>> *Where are you seeing this behavior? There is an x to the right of the 
>> search bar, but it is the same size as tiddlywiki.com 
>> 's. And there are no x's in references displayed as 
>> context search results. So I am not sure what you mean.*
>>
>>>
>>> Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
>>> other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?
>>>
>>
>> *Tiddler controls jumping up and down? I am not sure what you mean. If 
>> you open some system or shadow tiddlers, the tiddler title may start on the 
>> viewtoolbar line. Bu the actual toolbar doesn't move up and down. I did 
>> make some changes since posting this thread. Refresh the webpage and see if 
>> you still see the behavior, and try to describe it more precisely. I am 
>> interested in knowing what this is.*
>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Dave,
I see the big X in $:/AdvancedSearch - tab Context search.
The tiddler controls are not jumping any more. I saw it earlier on.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.37.31 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi Birthe, see my replies in* bold*
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when it 
>> should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.
>>
>  

>
> *Where are you seeing this behavior? There is an x to the right of the 
> search bar, but it is the same size as tiddlywiki.com 
> 's. And there are no x's in references displayed as 
> context search results. So I am not sure what you mean.*
>
>>
>> Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
>> other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?
>>
>
> *Tiddler controls jumping up and down? I am not sure what you mean. If you 
> open some system or shadow tiddlers, the tiddler title may start on the 
> viewtoolbar line. Bu the actual toolbar doesn't move up and down. I did 
> make some changes since posting this thread. Refresh the webpage and see if 
> you still see the behavior, and try to describe it more precisely. I am 
> interested in knowing what this is.*
>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Thanks!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:20:51 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Dave
> In tiddler TiddlyBlink home 
> 
>  
> you expain how to shift og clik a link and how to close overlapping sidebar 
> with 
> the double arrow icon at the top right of the screen. Remember Shift-alt-S 
> will also do that.
>
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 16.30.36 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
>> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
>> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>>
>> Known things to fix:
>>
>> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
>> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start 
>> a new column
>> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
>> 4) Completely redo the instructions.
>>
>> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Hi Birthe, see my replies in* bold*

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when it 
> should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.
>

*Where are you seeing this behavior? There is an x to the right of the 
search bar, but it is the same size as tiddlywiki.com's. And there are no 
x's in references displayed as context search results. So I am not sure 
what you mean.*

>
> Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
> other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?
>

*Tiddler controls jumping up and down? I am not sure what you mean. If you 
open some system or shadow tiddlers, the tiddler title may start on the 
viewtoolbar line. Bu the actual toolbar doesn't move up and down. I did 
make some changes since posting this thread. Refresh the webpage and see if 
you still see the behavior, and try to describe it more precisely. I am 
interested in knowing what this is.*

>
> Birthe
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

Peter,

I like to use this 
http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftg%2Ftoolbar%2Ftagging
I think the Tiddlerinfo Panel easily gets overcrowded.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 17.12.16 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Thanks HC. For me it does not work either: there is no edit tags bar in 
> the info section of a tiddler.
>
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>
>
> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 13.09.05 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> @Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use 
> your code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler 
> with that code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.
>
>
>
> yes just put it in a tiddler, save it and press the button that you just 
> made. then in any tiddler press the info button, press the edit tags tab 
> and tag away. BUT (for me at least) it do not work any more in the new tw 
> 5.1.22 as mentioned.
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Dave
In tiddler TiddlyBlink home 

 
you expain how to shift og clik a link and how to close overlapping sidebar 
with 
the double arrow icon at the top right of the screen. Remember Shift-alt-S 
will also do that.

Birthe

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 16.30.36 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi all
>
> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>
> Known things to fix:
>
> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
> new column
> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
> 4) Completely redo the instructions.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Thanks Birthe, I made a note of it. When I get more used to tags and fields I 
may well go back to it.
21 Apr 2020, 16:16 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> Do you want more to play with a headache perhaps > Gentags 
> >  ?
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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

Thanks HC. For me it does not work either: there is no edit tags bar in the 
info section of a tiddler.
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> tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 13.09.05 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
>> @Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use 
>> your code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler 
>> with that code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> yes just put it in a tiddler, save it and press the button that you just 
> made. then in any tiddler press the info button, press the edit tags tab and 
> tag away. BUT (for me at least) it do not work any more in the new tw 5.1.22 
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

2020-04-21 Thread Jack Baty

Very Roam-like! It does require a rather wide window, even with the sidebar 
closed. You mentioned the gap so maybe that would help. 

I often use the side-by-side feature in Roam, but haven't felt the need for 
it with TiddlyWiki because I use the "classic" story view so clicking a 
link opens the tiddler directly above the current one so I can see them 
both at the same time that way (depending on how much text, etc) with just 
a little scrolling.

I'd love to see this fleshed out, though!

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:30:36 AM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
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> Hi all
>
> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>
> Known things to fix:
>
> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
> new column
> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
> 4) Completely redo the instructions.
>
> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
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[tw5] Re: Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Dave,

The big X in Context Search. It is due to Danielo using tw-search when it 
should be tc-search. Of course it works as supposed but is an eyesore.

Why is the tiddler controls jumping up and down opening a links from the 
other story or using the toggle story button or just toggling sidebar?

Birthe

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[tw5] Feedback needed for experimental update to TiddlyBlink

Hi all

Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.

https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html

Known things to fix:

1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open
2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start a 
new column
3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly
4) Completely redo the instructions.

Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?

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[tw5] Re: How to tweak viewtemplate tiddlers so they fold / unfold

TonyM

Thank you so much for that! I tweaked it and the results are here:

https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:25:36 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Since the tags are hidden when folded if you use the tag pill 
> for $:/tags/ViewToolbar you see the view template 
> uses $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags to display the tags; 
>
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags contains
> <$reveal type="nomatch" stateTitle=<> text="hide" tag="div" 
> retain="yes" animate="yes">
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 
> storyview="pop"/>
> 
>
> So I applied that reveal to your 
> tiddler $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse
> and attached it in this post.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 7:49:09 AM UTC+10, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> And here I thought you were working long hours! :-) Thanks, I will figure 
>> out how to do that. Blessings!
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body.tid
>>>
>>> That first reveal is the trick. Wrap it around the templates for the 
>>> references.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Peter

One advantage of Mario's TOCP is you can do the equivalent of new here which
tags the children with the the current tiddler.

With tocp new with parent sets the parent field of new children to the current
tiddler. Given any random tiddler you can look at the parent field and identify
its only parent. So you can work you're way back up the tree to parent, grand
parent etc... With tags there may be more than one tag so in a way you have
multiple parents, bob may be your parent but how do you know the parent is not
task or done or the other tags?

Of course you can also list all tiddlers with the current tiddler in the parent
field to find all children.
Also in any tiddler you can display {{!!parent}} to see what's in the parent
field and even better put the display of this field in a tiddler tagged view
template.

So you can see in this example you can build the equivalent of the toc without
a tag for each tiddler in that toc and you know exactly who the parent is.

Mario provides other tools to make use of the TOCP and the parent field.

So you can see by using additional field like parent your wiki could contain
multiple hierarchies at one time if you wanted.

I hope this helps.

Regards
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Peter,

Do you want more to play with a headache perhaps Gentags 
 ?

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel



tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 13.09.05 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> @Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use 
> your code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler 
> with that code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.
>
>
>
> yes just put it in a tiddler, save it and press the button that you just 
made. then in any tiddler press the info button, press the edit tags tab 
and tag away. BUT (for me at least) it do not work any more in the new tw 
5.1.22 as mentioned.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Mario, thanks. 

So, if I understand well, tocP makes various Tables of Content, and it could 
make one of my tags with the related "normal" text tiddlers that I have created.

If that's correct, what is the advantage of me having a tag listing tiddler 
with this in the text box:
```

    <>
    
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> Hi Peter, 
>
> As Tony pointed out, tags is "just a field" in a tiddler. If you open the 
> tiddler info area you can see them under the "Fields" tab. 
> The tiddler info area is under the tag menu  "> \/ More : (i) Info> "
>
> So 1 > tags > field can handle different values. .. The same is true for 
> fields. You only need 1 field that can handle different values. ... So you 
> don't need 150 more fields. That would be painful. 
>
> The advantage of tags is, that the TW UI makes it simple to deal with them. 
> If you want to use fields, you have to define most of the UI yourself. 
>
> I did create a > tocP plugin >  
> that lets you create a TOC which uses the "parent" field instead of tags. ... 
> So you could use your tags as one thing and create the TOC with a different 
> mechanism. 
>
> This plugin also adds a button to the "outline" that let's you create new 
> tiddlers, where the > parent > field is already populated. The field name 
> "parent" is just a convention, you can also use any other name, if you like. 
> The example tab "test-tocP-asdf" uses the field > asdf > to store the 
> "parent" relation. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw5] Re: ListWidget Fields in Current Tiddler with certain Value

Yes.  Exactly right.  Perfect.  Thank you, Mark!

How to reference a variable name as the field selector was the key.


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:25:22 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Ok, I think this is what your want:
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[mi_]]" variable="field">
> <$list filter="[all[current]get!match[No]]" variable=value>
> <>: <>
> 
>
> So it reports fields and value where the field name matches mi_ and the 
> contents don't match "No".
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:08:29 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I don't quite understand your question. If you only want fields that 
>> match value "Yes", then
>> what is the point of retrieving the value -- it will always be "yes"?? 
>> Here's code that does
>> what you literally asked for:
>>
>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[mi_]]" variable="field">
>> <$list filter="[all[current]getmatch[Yes]]" variable=dummy>
>> <>: Yes
>> 
>>
>> It finds the fields starting with mi_ and reports them only if they 
>> contain "Yes". As you may note,
>> I just hardcoded "Yes", since the inner list guarantees that "Yes" is all 
>> the field will have.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:25:51 PM UTC-7, David wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:53:03 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:

 <$list filter="[all[current]!mi_chalupa[No]]">
 {{!!mi_chalupa}}
 

 The short form for accessing any field is {{!!fieldname}} or, if in 
 another tiddler or context, {{tiddlername!!fieldname}}

 <:-)

>>>
>>> Thank you so much, but as I mentioned in the comment for that section, 
>>> that is not dynamic.  I have the field name in a variable "x" and this is 
>>> what I thought, and I tried other forms of accessing the var, but it 
>>> doesn't work...
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[mi_]]" variable="x"> 
>>> {{!!}}
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Freelinks hijacks external links

HC

There is also a search that highlights the search string where ever it is 
displayed. Imagin if from this you could also create tiddlers and links. 

Regards
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[tw5] Re: raspberry pi nextcloud and TW

2020-04-21 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:04:38 PM UTC+2, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your replies.
>
> I am not any clearer. 
> But I suspect it is because I did not explain my end goal clearly enough.
>

:) .. Then I suggest, that you try to explain, what you want to do. 

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

2020-04-21 Thread PMario

Hi Peter, 

As Tony pointed out, tags is "just a field" in a tiddler. If you open the 
tiddler info area you can see them under the "Fields" tab. 
The tiddler info area is under the tag menu  "\/ More : (i) Info"

So 1 tags field can handle different values. .. The same is true for 
fields. You only need 1 field that can handle different values. ... So you 
don't need 150 more fields. That would be painful. 

The advantage of tags is, that the TW UI makes it simple to deal with them. 
If you want to use fields, you have to define most of the UI yourself. 

I did create a tocP plugin  that 
lets you create a TOC which uses the "parent" field instead of tags. ... So 
you could use your tags as one thing and create the TOC with a different 
mechanism. 

This plugin also adds a button to the "outline" that let's you create new 
tiddlers, where the parent field is already populated. The field name 
"parent" is just a convention, you can also use any other name, if you 
like. The example tab "test-tocP-asdf" uses the field asdf to store the 
"parent" relation. 

have fun!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Thanks Tony.


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> Tags are only a special case of a single field with multiple values
>
> I will try and share some field tips soon.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

@David: how so?
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> Part of the beauty of TiddlyBlink is that you can use links instead of tags.
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:36:40 AM UTC-5, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> I have read this somewhere and was wondering if it is true. I have several 
>> tens of tags and TW has not slowed down at all. If so, what is a number 
>> where one can expect TW to slow down?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Please Tony,

When you have the time I would really appreciate a demo wiki. I know I am 
slow, but also language barrier hit me at times.
Several times I have worked trying to organize my wiki better, make more 
and better use of  fields - but I end up in the biggest rabbit hole ever -  
every time.

Not to mention Jeds Gentags, so promising but exploding my brain at some 
point.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

2020-04-21 Thread A Gloom

Here's something to play with-- its a variation of your tiddler with all 
tags and their tagged tiddlers-- the Subject Index is the main tiddler and 
the template tiddler is used by it

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Tags are only a special case of a single field with multiple values

I will try and share some field tips soon.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Newbie to Tiddlywiki - need some help with understanding CSS please

Welcome Bandit! :-)
Particularly when new people have something in mind and ask for help, it is 
useful the more you can illustrate it. Could you show an example of how you 
want a form to look?

Regarding @@ , as A Gloom points out it is equivalent to . But, if 
you prefer, then just use  instead. The idea with wikitext is to 
simplify the underlying html commands.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Part of the beauty of TiddlyBlink is that you can use links instead of tags.

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:36:40 AM UTC-5, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> I have read this somewhere and was wondering if it is true. I have several 
> tens of tags and TW has not slowed down at all. If so, what is a number 
> where one can expect TW to slow down?
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[tw5] Newbie to Tiddlywiki - need some help with understanding CSS please

Phil

Have you tried editing a tiddler and creating fields at the bottom. This is a 
quick way to do what you want out of the box.

I can then show you how to make the field viewable and we can give you more 
support to build whatever you want

Regards
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?






> Peter you ask about 150 tags, but did you realise you could have an 
> additional tag field with another 150 tags if you want, after all the tags 
> are just a field. 
>
150 tags in 1 field, not in 150 separate fields?

> For example what if one tag set related to the disposition of tiddlers 
> independent from their other relationships. Have you used the tableofcontents 
> mechanisium, even with that you can build a multitude of heirachies, list, 
> sets, groups. Every tiddler can be a record in one or more tables in one or 
> more database structures all while maintaining a nonlinear model as well.
>
Yes, in fact, I have a tiddler set up as a ToC, and another one as a list of my 
tags and related tiddlers.
I guess if the tags are incorporated in a field, so to speak, what is the 
advantage? What about visibility - would I have a tiddler listing all the 
"tags" (or whatever they are then called) with their dependent tiddlers, as I 
have now?
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[tw5] Re: tag dropdown slowdown - solution/discussion

Good tip with 3 spaces as well

Tony

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[tw5] Re: raspberry pi nextcloud and TW

2020-04-21 Thread kelsang sherab

Thank you all for your replies.

I am not any clearer. 
But I suspect it is because I did not explain my end goal clearly enough.

Thank you

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 4:53:23 PM UTC+1, kelsang sherab wrote:
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> I am looking for info - resources to learn from on how to create a TW that 
> is accesible remotely using a raspberry pi that has a Nextcloud on it.
> Thank you
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[tw5] Re: Newbie to Tiddlywiki - need some help with understanding CSS please

2020-04-21 Thread A Gloom

Phil

This concerns the CSS portion of your question
 

> I want a simple template that I can open each time and fill in fields - 
> cannot find any help on how to do this.  And of course I want to color code 
> - I have figured out how to use the CSS class and ID in TW but apart from 
> that all my knowledge is HTML and I have even resorted to using an HTML 
> table and using CSS in a style header in a tiddler to format it.
>

using html tables is usually better than using the Wikitext table syntax 
for complex/custom tables.  Wikitext tables have some limitations 
concerning styling, see: 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/6XSqLdhH1dQ/discussion.
 

> There must be a simpler way but using the @@ etc is s confusing for a 
> newbie.
>

You're familiar with html/css-- good.  Look at the @@ as a span -- @@,red 
"example text"@@ like "example text"

This guide on markup shows with examples the @@ syntax: 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Markup
 
Someone made an excellent guide on TW's internal styling-- hopefully 
they'll speak up with I hunt for its link.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

HC then peter

Yes I understand where you are coming from and that is not committing too soon
to structuring your data so that relationships emerge in time. I am all for
that however I also like to discover relationships while I collect my data and
make sure I capture as much about my data's relationships to other data as I
capture it.

I suppose its because I have years of professional experience handling
information and knowledge that I have and use a lot of strategic structures I
organise my data with, that increases my ability to discover relationships.

The beauty of tiddlywiki is almost any organisational method can layover in
multiple layers and views of almost any data.

Its a big but interesting subject and I will look into it more.

Peter you ask about 150 tags, but did you realise you could have an additional
tag field with another 150 tags if you want, after all the tags are just a
field.

For example what if one tag set related to the disposition of tiddlers
independent from their other relationships. Have you used the tableofcontents
mechanisium, even with that you can build a multitude of heirachies, list,
sets, groups. Every tiddler can be a record in one or more tables in one or
more database structures all while maintaining a nonlinear model as well.

I hope I make sense.

Regards
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

@A.Gloom, thanks for that insight.
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21 Apr 2020, 14:25 by barrowgl...@gmail.com:

> Hello Peter,
>
>
>> that looks good, but I would one use that to replace say 150 tags?
>>
>
> I would stick with tags-- 150 isn't a large amount.  One thing tags have over 
> fields is TW shows the tags in view mode (under the tiddler title) while it 
> doesn't show fields unless you set up a filter or transclusions to make them 
> visible (or modify the view template to display them). And tags have the tag 
> pill which is a menu of all other tiddlers tagged with that tag.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

2020-04-21 Thread A Gloom

Hello Peter,

that looks good, but I would one use that to replace say 150 tags?
>

I would stick with tags-- 150 isn't a large amount.  One thing tags have 
over fields is TW shows the tags in view mode (under the tiddler title) 
while it doesn't show fields unless you set up a filter or transclusions to 
make them visible (or modify the view template to display them). And tags 
have the tag pill which is a menu of all other tiddlers tagged with that 
tag.

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

@Stef: nice one. So here's a simple question from a newbie: how do I use your 
code? In other words, where do I put it? Should I make a new tiddler with that 
code in the text box, or …… what else? Please explain.


21 Apr 2020, 13:55 by haase...@gmail.com:

> I use this every day. so good. but it don´t work in the new tw 5.1.22 :(
>
> can you update it ??
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Re: [tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

2020-04-21 Thread Mohammad Rahmani

Thank you Jed.
I will make some tests and share the results with you!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jed Carty  wrote:

> Oh, sorry about that. I had another tiddler generate the html file. Here
> is everything in one file, I am also adding it to the plugin development
> repo. The formatting for the html file output isn't great, but it should
> work:
>
> \define makeHTML(json)
> `
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Plugin Library
> 
> var assetList = $(JSONLISTING)$
>
> /*\
> title: $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/pluginlibrary/libraryserver.js
> type: application/javascript
> module-type: library
>
> A simple HTTP-over-window.postMessage implementation of a standard
> TiddlyWeb-compatible server. It uses real HTTP to load the individual
> tiddler JSON files.
>
> \*/
> (function(){
>
> /*jslint node: true, browser: true */
> /*global $tw: false */
> "use strict";
>
> // Listen for window messages
> window.addEventListener("message",function listener(event){
> console.log("plugin library: Received message from",event.origin);
> console.log("plugin library: Message content",event.data);
> switch(event.data.verb) {
> case "GET":
> if(event.data.url === "recipes/library/tiddlers.json") {
> // Route for recipes/library/tiddlers.json
> event.source.postMessage({
> verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
> status: "200",
> cookies: event.data.cookies,
> url: event.data.url,
> type: "application/json",
> body: JSON.stringify(assetList,null,4)
> },"*");
> } else if(event.data.url.indexOf("recipes/library/tiddlers/") === 0) {
> var url = "recipes/library/tiddlers/" +
> encodeURIComponent(removePrefix(event.data.url,"recipes/library/tiddlers/"));
> // Route for recipes/library/tiddlers/.json
> httpGet(url,function(err,responseText) {
> if(err) {
> event.source.postMessage({
> verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
> status: "404",
> cookies: event.data.cookies,
> url: event.data.url,
> type: "text/plain",
> body: "Not found"
> },"*");
> } else {
> event.source.postMessage({
> verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
> status: "200",
> cookies: event.data.cookies,
> url: event.data.url,
> type: "application/json",
> body: responseText
> },"*");
> }
> });
> } else {
> event.source.postMessage({
> verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
> status: "404",
> cookies: event.data.cookies,
> url: event.data.url,
> type: "text/plain",
> body: "Not found"
> },"*");
> }
> break;
> }
> },false);
>
> // Helper to remove string prefixes
> function removePrefix(string,prefix) {
> if(string.indexOf(prefix) === 0) {
> return string.substr(prefix.length);
> } else {
> return string;
> }
> }
>
> // Helper for HTTP GET
> function httpGet(url,callback) {
> var http = new XMLHttpRequest();
> http.open("GET",url,true);
> http.onreadystatechange = function() {
> if(http.readyState == 4 && http.status == 200) {
> callback(null,http.responseText);
> }
> };
> http.send();
> }
>
> })();
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> HelloThere
>
> This is the TiddlyWiki plugin library. It is not intended to be opened
> directly in the browser.
>
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/; target="_blank">
> https://tiddlywiki.com/ for details of how to install plugins.
>
> 
> 
> `
> \end
>
> \define oneTiddler()
>   <$list
> filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>   >
> 
> "<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view
> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",
>   
>   <$list
> filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>   >
> 
> "<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view
> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"
>   
> \end
>
> \define jsonListing()
> [
> <$list
>   filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
>   variable=theTiddler
> >
>   {
>   <>
>   
>   },
>   
> 
> <$list
>   filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
>   variable=theTiddler
> >
>   {
>   <>
>   
>   }
>   
> 
> ]
> \end
>
> This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format needed
> by a plugin library.
>
> The file structure needs to be:
>
> *Library Folder
> ** recipes
> *** library
>  tiddlers
> * //individual tiddler json files//
>  tiddlers.json
> ** index.html
>
> filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>
>
>
> !! tiddlers.json
>
> ''filename:'' tiddlers.json
>
> ''contents:''
>
> <>
>
> !! Tiddler JSON files:
>
> <$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>
>
> ---
> ''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json
>
> ''contents:''
>
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> ---
> ''filename:'' index.html
>
> ''contents:''
>
> <$wikify name=JSONLISTING text=<>>
> 
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> 
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[tw5] Re: Editor access vs View Access

2020-04-21 Thread Yoni Balkind

Yeah I do get that my use-case deviates from the original intention. 

But there is a very lively global community emerging right now around note 
taking and productivity. This is being driven by the likes of Tiago Forte's 
Building a Second Brain, the note taking app Roam Research, the book How to 
Take Smart Notes, Andy's super impressive notes page 
https://notes.andymatuschak.org/, and also Anne-Laure who is active on this 
group. 

By sheer chance it looks like TW maps quite beautifully to the needs of 
this community for two different reasons. 
1 - TW looks like it can be an open source version of Roam Research
2 - TW looks like it can allow people to replicate Andy's notes page (my 
use case)

So fate has presented the TW with what I think is a big opportunity to ride 
the wave of the above mentioned movement/community. I think if you cater to 
their needs then TW could explode! Just look at the amount of activity and 
cult status that Roam Research is getting while still in beta.  

I don't doubt that the above things are possible in TW, but they are fringe 
cases and as a user trying to do these things it feels like I'm going 
outside the bounds of what TW is meant for. The experience is cumbersome. 
I'm just putting forward the idea that maybe these use cases should be 
considered more central and that they should be made easier, the experience 
should be streamlined and documented better. But I'm biased because I'm not 
originally from TW, I come from the above mentioned note-taking / 
productivity world. 

Its obviously a strategic decision for the TW community as to whether these 
use case are important and central enough in terms of the TW values.

On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 12:38:21 UTC+2, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mardi 21 avril 2020 08:17:14 UTC+2, Yoni Balkind a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks for the outline. I'm finding that readonly plugin (step 5 of your 
>> outline) a bit confusing. For example it references a ReadOnly ay 
>> tiddlywiki.com but I cannot find the theme. Though it might only be 
>> mentioning it as an alternate option. Nevertheless the process is a bit 
>> unclear and from what I can tell it does not hide all of the controls so as 
>> to make the wiki look like a blog.
>> I think I'll go the static route so I will wait for Anne-Laure tutorial. 
>>
>> I think that making a site readonly and looking like a blog is an 
>> important use-case, should be easier to do and well documented
>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I think that until now this has not been the primary use of TiddlyWiki 
> users. For the most part I think our favorite notetool is personal and 
> therefore not public.
> Static site generators are indeed fashionable, and there are many ways to 
> do this with TW (as there often are).
>
> BJ had proposed something, we can find Ton Gerner's 
> http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Otherwise more recently Jed proposed this: 
> https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/readonlycore/ (see here 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/EHSH7ll6jcg/Z8BQQiq-CAAJ)
>
> Mohammad also proposed something interesting with modal window.
>
> Personally I use a button to do the work and customize the elements I 
> want, but as it's still a standolone TW, you can always access the engine 
> to take over if you know it's a TW. A true read-only, static, JS-code-free 
> TiddlyWiki loses the meaning of TiddlyWiki on searching, tag browsing, etc. 
> (and because I'm still not comfortable with Node.js)
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvain
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

2020-04-21 Thread Jed Carty

Oh, sorry about that. I had another tiddler generate the html file. Here is 
everything in one file, I am also adding it to the plugin development repo. 
The formatting for the html file output isn't great, but it should work:

\define makeHTML(json)
`








Plugin Library

var assetList = $(JSONLISTING)$

/*\
title: $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/pluginlibrary/libraryserver.js
type: application/javascript
module-type: library

A simple HTTP-over-window.postMessage implementation of a standard 
TiddlyWeb-compatible server. It uses real HTTP to load the individual 
tiddler JSON files.

\*/
(function(){

/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */
"use strict";

// Listen for window messages
window.addEventListener("message",function listener(event){
console.log("plugin library: Received message from",event.origin);
console.log("plugin library: Message content",event.data);
switch(event.data.verb) {
case "GET":
if(event.data.url === "recipes/library/tiddlers.json") {
// Route for recipes/library/tiddlers.json
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "200",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "application/json",
body: JSON.stringify(assetList,null,4)
},"*");
} else if(event.data.url.indexOf("recipes/library/tiddlers/") === 0) {
var url = "recipes/library/tiddlers/" + 
encodeURIComponent(removePrefix(event.data.url,"recipes/library/tiddlers/"));
// Route for recipes/library/tiddlers/.json
httpGet(url,function(err,responseText) {
if(err) {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "404",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "text/plain",
body: "Not found"
},"*");
} else {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "200",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "application/json",
body: responseText
},"*");
}
});
} else {
event.source.postMessage({
verb: "GET-RESPONSE",
status: "404",
cookies: event.data.cookies,
url: event.data.url,
type: "text/plain",
body: "Not found"
},"*");
}
break;
}
},false);

// Helper to remove string prefixes
function removePrefix(string,prefix) {
if(string.indexOf(prefix) === 0) {
return string.substr(prefix.length);
} else {
return string;
}
}

// Helper for HTTP GET
function httpGet(url,callback) {
var http = new XMLHttpRequest();
http.open("GET",url,true);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {
if(http.readyState == 4 && http.status == 200) {
callback(null,http.responseText);
}
};
http.send();
}

})();





HelloThere

This is the TiddlyWiki plugin library. It is not intended to be opened 
directly in the browser.

See https://tiddlywiki.com/; 
target="_blank">https://tiddlywiki.com/ for details of how to install 
plugins.



`
\end

\define oneTiddler()
  <$list
filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
  >

"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",
  
  <$list
filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
  >

"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"
  
\end

\define jsonListing()
[
<$list
  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
  variable=theTiddler
>
  {
  <>
  
  },
  

<$list
  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
  variable=theTiddler
>
  {
  <>
  
  }
  

]
\end

This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format needed by 
a plugin library.

The file structure needs to be:

*Library Folder
** recipes
*** library
 tiddlers
* //individual tiddler json files//
 tiddlers.json
** index.html

filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>


!! tiddlers.json

''filename:'' tiddlers.json

''contents:''

<>

!! Tiddler JSON files:

<$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>

---
''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json

''contents:''

<$text text=<>/>


---
''filename:'' index.html

''contents:''

<$wikify name=JSONLISTING text=<>>

<>




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[tw5] Re: A Simple Way to Add the Tag Bar to the Tiddlerinfo Panel

I use this every day. so good. but it don´t work in the new tw 5.1.22 :(

can you update it ??

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[tw5] Re: Editor access vs View Access

2020-04-21 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mardi 21 avril 2020 08:17:14 UTC+2, Yoni Balkind a écrit :
>
> Thanks for the outline. I'm finding that readonly plugin (step 5 of your 
> outline) a bit confusing. For example it references a ReadOnly ay 
> tiddlywiki.com but I cannot find the theme. Though it might only be 
> mentioning it as an alternate option. Nevertheless the process is a bit 
> unclear and from what I can tell it does not hide all of the controls so as 
> to make the wiki look like a blog.
> I think I'll go the static route so I will wait for Anne-Laure tutorial. 
>
> I think that making a site readonly and looking like a blog is an 
> important use-case, should be easier to do and well documented
>


Hi,

I think that until now this has not been the primary use of TiddlyWiki 
users. For the most part I think our favorite notetool is personal and 
therefore not public.
Static site generators are indeed fashionable, and there are many ways to 
do this with TW (as there often are).

BJ had proposed something, we can find Ton Gerner's 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/

Otherwise more recently Jed proposed this: 
https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/readonlycore/ (see here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/EHSH7ll6jcg/Z8BQQiq-CAAJ)

Mohammad also proposed something interesting with modal window.

Personally I use a button to do the work and customize the elements I want, 
but as it's still a standolone TW, you can always access the engine to take 
over if you know it's a TW. A true read-only, static, JS-code-free 
TiddlyWiki loses the meaning of TiddlyWiki on searching, tag browsing, etc. 
(and because I'm still not comfortable with Node.js)

Cheers,
Sylvain

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Hi Tony

I am a long time converted zetteler. My wiki is also an tempt to follow the 
zettlekasten method. I see a lot of merit in the method so let me correct 
you. It is not about avoiding categories, the idea is to avoid forcing a 
structure of categories. Instead you to let the categories emerge from your 
associations and work with the notes. you don´t put your notes into a 
limiting structure of categories but you let the categories emerge from 
your notes.

tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 12.07.40 UTC+2 skrev TonyM:
>
> Peter
>
> I followed your links 're zest...Ian and I think the idea to avoid 
> categories and other organising principals in favor of tags is wrong. I 
> could put the full argument but it would take time based on a long career 
> in IT. I plan to learn more.
>
> I will try and share some tools for using fields more in time. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

OK Tony, I understand. I am not against using fields per se, but the issue I 
have how to replace my 150 tags with fields?



21 Apr 2020, 13:07 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com:

> Peter
>
> I followed your links 're zest...Ian and I think the idea to avoid categories 
> and other organising principals in favor of tags is wrong. I could put the 
> full argument but it would take time based on a long career in IT. I plan to 
> learn more.
>
> I will try and share some tools for using fields more in time. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?

Chris, very useful bookmarklet, thanks, I love bookmarklets :-)

1 small suggestion of correction: the bit with the link is not quite right, 
visually, although the link works. I looked at the JS but could not see where 
the correction should be made - I am a JS dummy, as well as a TW dummy :-(

21 Apr 2020, 12:54 by christopherjaldr...@gmail.com:

> Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or just 
> didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 
>
> Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to his 
> and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, mine 
> will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the bookmarklet 
> to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of the highlighted 
> text and a pre-formatted link to the source.
>
> Details here: > 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
> Other ideas for doing this sort of thing are more than welcome, and if anyone 
> has further ideas or improvements, I'm sure we'd all love to hear them. 
> Surely there's an easier way...
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
>> I have a bookmarklet you can try. Might not be as smooth as those others but 
>> it works.
>> https://techlifeweb.com/>> tw5tribalknowledge.html#>> 
>> Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%>> 20links%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM UTC-7, Yif Dai wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I find web clipper (Evernote, Notion, etc.) really handy.  The drawbacks of 
>>> those web clippers are that they are tied to third-party services.  I 
>>> wonder if you know any standalone web clippers or can offer some workaround 
>>> so that I can easily clip web pages into TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Yif
>>>
>
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[tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?



tirsdag den 21. april 2020 kl. 11.54.10 UTC+2 skrev Chris Aldrich:
>
> Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or 
> just didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 
>
> Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to 
> his and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, 
> mine will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the 
> bookmarklet to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of 
> the highlighted text and a pre-formatted link to the source.
>
> Details here: 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
>
This is quite nice. though the newline do not work form me in ff 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?

Peter

I followed your links 're zest...Ian and I think the idea to avoid categories 
and other organising principals in favor of tags is wrong. I could put the full 
argument but it would take time based on a long career in IT. I plan to learn 
more.

I will try and share some tools for using fields more in time. 

Regards
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Many tags slow TW down?