date:20210817

A video from the community call as well as slides are now available at the 
new community forum:
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28

You will also find a thread there in the Plugins section for feedback on 
the beta release of the FileUploads plugin.

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

TW wasn't built from the ground-up for mult-user, and it's definitely not 
how most people are using it. I'm sure products built as server-side 
entities (e.g. WikiMedia) have all sorts of protection against injected 
code. 

Anyone who can write and  save a tiddler can make a javascript tiddler, or 
a widget, or overwrite a javascript filte operator, or maybe header 
scripts, or maybe in-frame code. I guess you would have to think of all the 
ways that code could be injected and then neutralize everything that 
matched. But you'd have to do it before the tiddlers got written to the 
common pool, and you'd have to either block legitimate uses of the iframe, 
or figure out some way to detect that the frame doesn't contain js source 
code.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:06:05 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> I am currently playing with "real-time multiplayer" capabilities for TW5, 
> so this is an interesting security vulnerability to be aware of.
>
> My primary concern was "what if a malicious user connected a 
> MIS-IDENTIFIED wiki to a real-time server. It has a bunch of malicious 
> tiddlers, and it DOES NOT have a bunch of tiddlers that exist in the server 
> copy."
>
> The real-time sync, once authenticated and authorized, would just 
> absoloutely wreck the server-copy of the wiki in this instance.
>
> Similarly, being able to some-how sync malicious javascript code, hidden 
> in a data-uri to the server, which will sync it to all connected users is a 
> concern...
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-7 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>>  Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> That was one of the concerns with TWederation. You could import from 
>>> someone you trusted who imported from someone they trusted who ... actually 
>>> couldn't be trusted. It's kind of a hard problem.
>>>
>>
>> *Right! *It IS an interesting issue. But *maybe as much an 
>> anthropological issue as a technical one. *
>> Suddenly tech switches into *"HOW CAN I TRUST?" *mode. 
>> Despite the fact most everyone, well everyone, here (you, reading this) 
>> is completely trust-worthy. 
>> I think its a basic sociological fact that much of the internet is NOW 
>> premised on the idea you can't trust anyone.
>> It has led to a kind of "authentication gymnastics" that makes doing some 
>> things very convoluted.
>>
>> Just rambles
>> TT
>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:13:42 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

> I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a 
> tiddler that contained code like this.
>

 From my perspective this is the only practical concern, and once again 
 emphasizes the need to be careful when importing content from others. 

>>>

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Fontany

As Saq mentioned, I am very close to a public beta of a real-time "live 
multiplayer" syncer build on top of TiddlyWeb/TiddlyWiki5 Server + 
Websockets + Yjs (Conflict Free Replicated Datatype library).

I took a lot of inspiration from Jed Carty's Bob Server setup, but so many 
of the internal changed during the Yjs integration that it has become its 
own thing. I need to get to a stable point in the refactoring to start 
sharing my progress.

Aside: I also noticed that if you "Close" an open draft tiddler with the 
`X` button, that it deletes the draft from the wiki, and this really 
disturbs drafts from other users that are being edited live note to 
self to file a bug report on that.

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:52:06 PM UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> I had not noticed cycled refreshing.  Thanks!  I must watch those 
> TiddlyWikis again.
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:18:27 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
>>> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>>>
>>> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 
>>> 2 could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
>>> the tiddler.)
>>>
>>
>> I think most of the basics for this are in place and just needs some 
>> cobbling together.
>>
>> Note that the nodejs server does synchronize tiddlers from client to 
>> server,  and from server to client. I believe the default refresh interval 
>> to get new changes from the server is about a minute if my memory serves me 
>> well.
>>
>>  If User 1 is editing a tiddler, that creates a Draft tiddler that will 
>> get sync'ed to User 2's wiki. This would appear as a red draft indicator at 
>> the bottom of the screen, though it could easily be used to display a 
>> message on the tiddler in question as well.
>>  
>>
>>> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
>>> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
>>> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>>>
>>
>> The new tiddler should automatically get sync'ed from the server to User 
>> 2's wiki without need for a reload.
>>
>> Note that there is work underway on making the server to client sync 
>> instantaneous:
>> - https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5279
>> - https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5882
>>
>> Also, Joshua is doing some interesting work on implementing a real time 
>> multi-user feature.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Fontany

I am currently playing with "real-time multiplayer" capabilities for TW5, 
so this is an interesting security vulnerability to be aware of.

My primary concern was "what if a malicious user connected a MIS-IDENTIFIED 
wiki to a real-time server. It has a bunch of malicious tiddlers, and it 
DOES NOT have a bunch of tiddlers that exist in the server copy."

The real-time sync, once authenticated and authorized, would just 
absoloutely wreck the server-copy of the wiki in this instance.

Similarly, being able to some-how sync malicious javascript code, hidden in 
a data-uri to the server, which will sync it to all connected users is a 
concern...

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-7 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

>  Mark S. wrote:
>
>> That was one of the concerns with TWederation. You could import from 
>> someone you trusted who imported from someone they trusted who ... actually 
>> couldn't be trusted. It's kind of a hard problem.
>>
>
> *Right! *It IS an interesting issue. But *maybe as much an 
> anthropological issue as a technical one. *
> Suddenly tech switches into *"HOW CAN I TRUST?" *mode. 
> Despite the fact most everyone, well everyone, here (you, reading this) is 
> completely trust-worthy. 
> I think its a basic sociological fact that much of the internet is NOW 
> premised on the idea you can't trust anyone.
> It has led to a kind of "authentication gymnastics" that makes doing some 
> things very convoluted.
>
> Just rambles
> TT
>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:13:42 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
 I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a 
 tiddler that contained code like this.

>>>
>>> From my perspective this is the only practical concern, and once again 
>>> emphasizes the need to be careful when importing content from others. 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWikis on node.js: includeWikis: configuration BEFORE includes

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Fontany

I also really dig the `includeWikis` setting, there's a lot possible with 
this type of "whole wiki transclusion".

One thing to note is that this feature was originally developed to allow 
Jeremy to have 2 different folders for specific editions.

For example, the `tw5.com` and `tw5.com-server` editions. The `-server` 
edition is setup as:

```
{
"description": "Server configuration of the tw5.com edition",
"plugins": [
"tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb",
"tiddlywiki/filesystem",
"tiddlywiki/highlight",
"tiddlywiki/mobiledragdrop",
"tiddlywiki/internals"
],
"themes": [
"tiddlywiki/vanilla",
"tiddlywiki/snowwhite"
],
"includeWikis": [
"../tw5.com"
],
"config": {
"default-tiddler-location": "../tw5.com/tiddlers"
}
}
```

That "default-tiddler-location" setting is important, and it also interacts 
with the `*retain-original-tiddler-path*` setting in the `tw5.com` 
tiddlywiki.info file:

```
...
   ,
"config": {
"retain-original-tiddler-path": true
}
...
```

See 
: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.info%20Files:%5B%5BCustomising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btiddlywiki.info%20Files%5D%5D%20HelloThere%20GettingStarted%20Community

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 6:25:03 AM UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Boys o' boys, I really like the includeWikis 
>  thing for 
> node.js TiddlyWikis.  I am an organization fiend, and includeWikis rocks.
>
> The only problem I've found is a need for a wee heads-up in the 
> documentation.  Maybe a conversation here can fill the gap.
>
> Scenario: 
>
>- TiddlyWiki A is meant to be included in other TiddlyWikis
>- TiddlyWiki B is setup to include TiddlyWiki A
>
> When I first started up and visited TiddlyWiki B after configuring its 
> tiddlywiki.info to include TiddlyWiki A, I immediately noticed that 
> TiddlyWiki B had the title for TiddlyWiki A.
>
> Changing the title for TiddlyWiki B wound up changing the title for 
> TiddlyWiki A, because TiddlyWiki B is including all the tiddlers from 
> TiddlyWiki A.
>
> So I:
>
>- reverted the title on TiddlyWiki A
>- modified TiddlyWiki B's tiddlywiki.info to not include TiddlyWiki A
>- started up, visited, and altered TiddlyWiki B's title
>- modified TiddlyWiki B's tiddlywiki.info to again include TiddlyWiki A
>- stopped, restarted, and visited TiddlyWiki B, and all was well 
>title-wise
>
> When setting up a TiddlyWiki on node.js, configure everything that will be 
> unique to that tiddlywiki before including other TiddlyWikis.
>
> If any configuration of TiddlyWiki B needs to happen after having included 
> TiddlyWiki A, best to follow the steps in the bulleted list above.
>
> Please note: there is no problem here.  Nothing that needs to be fixed.  I 
> believe all of that is A-1.  It is just an "admin" process, and folk should 
> have an awareness of it.
>

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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-17 Thread clutterstack

I've logged in, but was unable to reply to a GG post over there, so came 
back here. :P

I don't have a lot to say about it yet, but will come back to try it more.

Best,
Chris

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:28:39 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Also it should be mentioned that those who join the new forum will not 
> miss any post on Google Forum! as the new forum mirror GG forum!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:41 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>
>> It would be great if we could get more community members to join the new 
>> forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ and use it for discussions, and 
>> provide feedback on how they find the user experience.
>>
>> Note that you can log in with a Google or Github account, or create a new 
>> user account specifically for the forum.
>>
>> Saq
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:30:28 AM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an 
>>> experiment at this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with Google 
>>> Groups, but if people like the new system then we will migrate fully over 
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few hours 
>>> time:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>
>>> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing BTC!
>>> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
>>>
>>> Is this the one I wished?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi tiddlywikians,

 there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

 Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to 
 the new Forum?

 just out of interest :)

 Best wishes,
 BTC

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar CSS

2021-08-17 Thread clutterstack

Hi amreus, I'm not sure you've provided a clear enough description of what 
you want to do. My first thought is that without changing anything from the 
Vanilla theme, there's a media query that puts the sidebar to full width, 
at the top of the window, when the screen is narrower than some default. In 
this mode, on tiddlywiki.com, the "sidebar" opener/closer is hidden in the 
hamburger menu.

Does this not work for you or not suit your use case?

Best,
Chris
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:46:14 AM UTC-4 amreus wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to set up my wiki so i can use it on my phone as well as 
> desktop.
>
> I don't expect to be editing tiddlers or writing filters on the phone.  
> That will be done on the desktop.  But I do want to set up the sidebar with 
> some tabs and buttons for use on the phone.  I find this is working fairly 
> well for me so far.
>
> What I would like to do is set the sidebar width to the same pixel width 
> as my phone.  Where can I add the style to add a border around the sidebar, 
> and set it's width to exactly 375 pixels?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] A New TW Integration Tool, And, A New Copyright for the Community!

Hello Everyone,

For those interested, I've developed a JS library that I hope will open-up 
the TW plugin landscape for commands, verbally-powered TW, "smarter" 
suggestions, etc. the tool, found 
at https://github.com/flancast90/TW-Sounds, was built by me primarily for 
BurningTreeC and I's Speech-to-Text Plugin, but, of course can be used by 
anyone, granted they have some programming experience, and the need.

*What Makes Tw-Sounds Special?*
It's not a TW plugin, macro, or any other "importable" TW tool, so I can 
imagine this tool seems a bit underwhelming. This library, however, which 
I'm mainly presenting to any programmer/dev who is interested, makes 
audio-dealing and audio-analysis in (and out) of TW much easier.

*What Does It Actually Do, and How Does It Work?*
TW-Sounds takes a word as input, and maps it to a variety of 
similar-sounding words. For audio-analysis (such as in the Speech-to-Text 
plugin), that means we can try and understand a variety of spoken words, 
and interpret them (perhaps you said tiddler, but the program understands 
toddler. TW-Sounds takes this into account and assumes you were trying to 
say tiddler, thus executing the "tiddler" command)

This is just the tip of the iceberg, the base JS powering TW-Sounds that I 
wrote can be easily modified to accommodate text-suggestions, autocorrect 
options, and millions of other things!

If you appreciate my research, drop a star at the repo 
(https://github.com/flancast90/TW-Sounds); The repo, it's code, and it's 
ideas are all licensed to me, and to the entire TW Community :)

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

I had not noticed cycled refreshing.  Thanks!  I must watch those 
TiddlyWikis again.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:18:27 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
>> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>>
>> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 
>> 2 could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
>> the tiddler.)
>>
>
> I think most of the basics for this are in place and just needs some 
> cobbling together.
>
> Note that the nodejs server does synchronize tiddlers from client to 
> server,  and from server to client. I believe the default refresh interval 
> to get new changes from the server is about a minute if my memory serves me 
> well.
>
>  If User 1 is editing a tiddler, that creates a Draft tiddler that will 
> get sync'ed to User 2's wiki. This would appear as a red draft indicator at 
> the bottom of the screen, though it could easily be used to display a 
> message on the tiddler in question as well.
>  
>
>> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
>> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
>> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>>
>
> The new tiddler should automatically get sync'ed from the server to User 
> 2's wiki without need for a reload.
>
> Note that there is work underway on making the server to client sync 
> instantaneous:
> - https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5279
> - https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5882
>
> Also, Joshua is doing some interesting work on implementing a real time 
> multi-user feature.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: Nice edit-comptext hack

2021-08-17 Thread History Buff

Thanks for that little suggestion. I have already done it and love it!


On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:58:27 AM UTC-7 David Gifford wrote:

>
> Hi everyone
>
> If you use snowgoon88's edit-comptext plugin (
> http://snowgoon88.github.io/TW5-extendedit/#About%20the%20Edit-CompText%20plugin
> )
>
> You can change the filter
>
> [all[tiddlers]!is[system]]
>
> in
>
> $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/config 
>
> to
>
> [all[tiddlers+missing]!is[system]]
>
> and get all the missing tiddlers as well. 
>
> This relieves some of the pressure to create missing tiddlers before you 
> are ready to do add content to them. It also helps you see how you worded 
> the link on previous occasions so you are consistent.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

Also it should be mentioned that those who join the new forum will not miss
any post on Google Forum! as the new forum mirror GG forum!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:41 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> It would be great if we could get more community members to join the new
> forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ and use it for discussions, and
> provide feedback on how they find the user experience.
>
> Note that you can log in with a Google or Github account, or create a new
> user account specifically for the forum.
>
> Saq
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:30:28 AM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an experiment
>> at this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with Google Groups, but
>> if people like the new system then we will migrate fully over to it.
>>
>> We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few hours
>> time:
>>
>>
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for sharing BTC!
>> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
>>
>> Is this the one I wished?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>>>
>>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>>
>>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to
>>> the new Forum?
>>>
>>> just out of interest :)
>>>
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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-17 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:18:27 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>
> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 2 
> could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
> the tiddler.)
>
> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>

There is a "server sent events" plugin from Arlen 
https://github.com/twcloud/tiddlyweb-sse which can do exactly that. It's 
much easier to implement than sockets and it works well. 
There are some hickups, because you can see tiddlers that are edited by 
others. They are shown as a "draft of ... by " at the bottom of the 
screen. You can also open them and you will see live editing ... BUT you 
are not allowed to change something on your side :/ ... AND you have to 
close the draft with the Open sidebar X button. Otherwise you will disturb 
the other user. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

It would be great if we could get more community members to join the new 
forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ and use it for discussions, and 
provide feedback on how they find the user experience.

Note that you can log in with a Google or Github account, or create a new 
user account specifically for the forum.

Saq

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:30:28 AM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an experiment 
> at this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with Google Groups, but 
> if people like the new system then we will migrate fully over to it.
>
> We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few hours 
> time:
>
>
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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>
> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks for sharing BTC!
> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
>
> Is this the one I wished?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>>
>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>
>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the 
>> new Forum?
>>
>> just out of interest :)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> BTC
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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

Hi Charlie,

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:18:27 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>
> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 2 
> could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
> the tiddler.)
>

I think most of the basics for this are in place and just needs some 
cobbling together.

Note that the nodejs server does synchronize tiddlers from client to 
server,  and from server to client. I believe the default refresh interval 
to get new changes from the server is about a minute if my memory serves me 
well.

 If User 1 is editing a tiddler, that creates a Draft tiddler that will get 
sync'ed to User 2's wiki. This would appear as a red draft indicator at the 
bottom of the screen, though it could easily be used to display a message 
on the tiddler in question as well.

> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>

The new tiddler should automatically get sync'ed from the server to User 
2's wiki without need for a reload.

Note that there is work underway on making the server to client sync 
instantaneous:
- https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5279
- https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5882

Also, Joshua is doing some interesting work on implementing a real time 
multi-user feature.

Regards,
Saq

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Re: [tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

Sounds good! You’ll probably need to add code to the TW Node server file,
and can handle the rest through a plug-in. I have a few NodeJS projects
that may help you, if you’d like, too, I can send you their links.

If we are going to collaborate for this, it’s probably easiest to make a
GitHub repo for it. Would you like to create the repo, or I’d be happy too,
as well.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 3:28 PM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Good stuff for later.  Thank-you !
>
> I'm still very new to node.js and TiddlyWiki on node.js (let's say "white
> belt") and I consider myself maybe an "orange belt" re TiddlyWiki.
>
> Just to prototype, I'm going to go with some old-school thinking, just as
> a way to familiarise myself (a bit of a "brain-age exercise") with just the
> basics and see how far I can push those basics with a little help from
> copy/paste/tweak javascript code.  Without typing any javascript code
> (since I'm no fan of the stuff.)
>
> Then I can pass the end-result onward for you to socket.io-cize the thing.
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 3:49:27 PM UTC-3 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how familiar you are with Node/Socket.io, so if this is a
>> bit confusing for you, just ask me for clarification. I am also always
>> willing to collaborate on great ideas, if you would like to build something
>> like this and need help, I'd be happy to help via GitHub Collaboration!
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> One way to do this (since you are using node), is to implement Socket.io
>>> into the Wiki. Each time the edit button is pressed, tell Socket.io via
>>> socket.emit to in turn socket.emit to each client (the first
>>> socket.emit would contain JSON containing the name of the editor and the
>>> tiddler). With socket.io, too, on each client instance, just add a
>>> listener for a specific event using socket.on... , and have it display
>>> a simple message such as "name is editing tiddler such-and-such"
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently
 viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.

 Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if
 User 2 could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is
 editing the tiddler.)

 And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a
 particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User
 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.

 Something like that.

 I'm not convinced it is something I can do, but I'm kind of interested
 in trying IF it isn't something that's already been done.

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

Good stuff for later.  Thank-you !

I'm still very new to node.js and TiddlyWiki on node.js (let's say "white 
belt") and I consider myself maybe an "orange belt" re TiddlyWiki.

Just to prototype, I'm going to go with some old-school thinking, just as a 
way to familiarise myself (a bit of a "brain-age exercise") with just the 
basics and see how far I can push those basics with a little help from 
copy/paste/tweak javascript code.  Without typing any javascript code 
(since I'm no fan of the stuff.)

Then I can pass the end-result onward for you to socket.io-cize the thing.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 3:49:27 PM UTC-3 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm not sure how familiar you are with Node/Socket.io, so if this is a bit 
> confusing for you, just ask me for clarification. I am also always willing 
> to collaborate on great ideas, if you would like to build something like 
> this and need help, I'd be happy to help via GitHub Collaboration!
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Charlie, 
>>
>> One way to do this (since you are using node), is to implement Socket.io 
>> into the Wiki. Each time the edit button is pressed, tell Socket.io via 
>> socket.emit to in turn socket.emit to each client (the first socket.emit 
>> would contain JSON containing the name of the editor and the tiddler). With 
>> socket.io, too, on each client instance, just add a listener for a 
>> specific event using socket.on... , and have it display a simple message 
>> such as "name is editing tiddler such-and-such"
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
>>> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>>>
>>> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 
>>> 2 could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
>>> the tiddler.)
>>>
>>> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
>>> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
>>> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>>>
>>> Something like that.
>>>
>>> I'm not convinced it is something I can do, but I'm kind of interested 
>>> in trying IF it isn't something that's already been done.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Node/Socket.io, so if this is a bit 
confusing for you, just ask me for clarification. I am also always willing 
to collaborate on great ideas, if you would like to build something like 
this and need help, I'd be happy to help via GitHub Collaboration!

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Charlie, 
>
> One way to do this (since you are using node), is to implement Socket.io 
> into the Wiki. Each time the edit button is pressed, tell Socket.io via 
> socket.emit to in turn socket.emit to each client (the first socket.emit 
> would contain JSON containing the name of the editor and the tiddler). With 
> socket.io, too, on each client instance, just add a listener for a 
> specific event using socket.on... , and have it display a simple message 
> such as "name is editing tiddler such-and-such"
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
>> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>>
>> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 
>> 2 could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
>> the tiddler.)
>>
>> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
>> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
>> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>>
>> Something like that.
>>
>> I'm not convinced it is something I can do, but I'm kind of interested in 
>> trying IF it isn't something that's already been done.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

Charlie, 

One way to do this (since you are using node), is to implement Socket.io 
into the Wiki. Each time the edit button is pressed, tell Socket.io via 
socket.emit to in turn socket.emit to each client (the first socket.emit 
would contain JSON containing the name of the editor and the tiddler). With 
socket.io, too, on each client instance, just add a listener for a specific 
event using socket.on... , and have it display a simple message such as 
"name is editing tiddler such-and-such"

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
> viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.
>
> Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 2 
> could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
> the tiddler.)
>
> And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a 
> particular tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 
> 2 should refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.
>
> Something like that.
>
> I'm not convinced it is something I can do, but I'm kind of interested in 
> trying IF it isn't something that's already been done.
>

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[tw5] A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

Say I have a TiddlyWiki running on node.js, and two people currently 
viewing the same TiddlyWiki in their browsers.

Say User 1 is editing a tiddler.  I'm thinking it would be cool if  User 2 
could know that User 1 is editing the tiddler (or that anybody is editing 
the tiddler.)

And/or, it would be cool if User 2 can get a notification that a particular 
tiddler has changed (because of User 1's editing), and that User 2 should 
refresh the browser to get that change if he/she wants it.

Something like that.

I'm not convinced it is something I can do, but I'm kind of interested in 
trying IF it isn't something that's already been done.

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[tw5] Nice edit-comptext hack

2021-08-17 Thread David Gifford


Hi everyone

If you use snowgoon88's edit-comptext plugin 
(http://snowgoon88.github.io/TW5-extendedit/#About%20the%20Edit-CompText%20plugin)

You can change the filter

[all[tiddlers]!is[system]]

in

$:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/config 

to

[all[tiddlers+missing]!is[system]]

and get all the missing tiddlers as well. 

This relieves some of the pressure to create missing tiddlers before you 
are ready to do add content to them. It also helps you see how you worded 
the link on previous occasions so you are consistent.

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[tw5] Re: Timely help needed

2021-08-17 Thread Ste

That's hit the spot! 
I can now sync the deadline date with the end date of the task. 
I've even made myself a macro to change a date from all those numbers to 
something a bit more readable! 
Heavily inspired (copy-pasted.) from Eric's macro in the thread linked 
above. 
I'm sure the button can work better as it needs two presses! I know, TWO!!! 
or can the button be removed entirely?! 

\define readable_time()
\whitespace trim 

<$vars   ={{{ [split[]first[4]join[]] }}}>
<$vars mm={{{ [split[]first[6]last[2]join[]]  }}}>
<$vars dd={{{ [split[]first[8]last[2]join[]]  }}}>
<$vars hh={{{ [split[]first[10]last[2]join[]] }}}>
<$varsmin={{{ [split[]first[12]last[2]join[]] }}}>

<$vars   mm={{{ [pad[2]] }}} dd={{{ [pad[2]] }}} hh={{{ 
[pad[2]] }}} min={{{ [pad[2]] }}}> {{{ 
[addsuffix[-]addsuffixaddsuffix[-]addsuffixaddsuffix[ at 
]addsuffixaddsuffix[:]addsuffix] }}} \end

And the button 

<$button> Set Deadline 
<$vars time={{ ORIGIN}} offset="-07:29">
<$wikify name="newtime" text=<>> 
<$action-setfield timeline.end=<> /> 
<$action-setfield timeline.start=<> />

<$vars time={{!!timeline.end}}> <$wikify name="readtime" 
text=<>> <$action-setfield deadline=<> />

On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 1:55:04 PM UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Thanks. I'll delve into those a bit more next week when I'm at a pc. 
> Now that I've looked I remember seeing the +1hour thread and thinking that 
> would be useful! 
> Just trying to automate things so the deadline tiddler auto updates from 
> the end date of the assignment for example. 
> Or setup to self populate week numbers from a given start date. 
> Ste
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 12:59:50 AM UTC+1 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> i have a similar setup , not sure if this helps , but check this thread  
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/OUJlcbbK5v0/m/Wpc2SWMWAgAJ?hl=en
>>   
>>
>> for adding a day , i don't know how to do it , however i got help to add 
>> an hour in this thread
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/uB1RxGj2qz0/m/QYjk6VO_AwAJ?hl=en 
>>   .. i think it will probably be easy to modify the 1 hour value to 24 to 
>> achieve what you want
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:38:01 AM UTC+2 Ste wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For context this is what I'm working on:
>>> https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/Assesment%20Schedule.html
>>> On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 18:42:18 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>>

 Hello wonderful people's. 
 I need help with time. 
 I am sure there have been discussions about this but alas I can't seem 
 to find what I'm looking for. Google groups. You know how it is! 

 I have a date in a field. I would like to use this same date in another 
 tiddler, but it needs to be plain text so it can be used by the vis.js 
 time 
 line plugin.. 

 I'd also like to be able to add/ subtract days and have it back into a 
 form the plugin can use. 

 I'd like a date picker to return the same date in different formats to 
 different fields, or be able to convert an existing date into a different 
 format, and for it to be useable by the time line or the timely calender. 

 So not much really... 

 Thanks for your time :)

 Ste 

 Date picker and timeline 
 http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

 Timely 
 https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html 

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter

 Mark S. wrote:

> That was one of the concerns with TWederation. You could import from 
> someone you trusted who imported from someone they trusted who ... actually 
> couldn't be trusted. It's kind of a hard problem.
>

*Right! *It IS an interesting issue. But *maybe as much an anthropological 
issue as a technical one. *
Suddenly tech switches into *"HOW CAN I TRUST?" *mode. 
Despite the fact most everyone, well everyone, here (you, reading this) is 
completely trust-worthy. 
I think its a basic sociological fact that much of the internet is NOW 
premised on the idea you can't trust anyone.
It has led to a kind of "authentication gymnastics" that makes doing some 
things very convoluted.

Just rambles
TT

>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:13:42 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>> I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a 
>>> tiddler that contained code like this.
>>>
>>
>> From my perspective this is the only practical concern, and once again 
>> emphasizes the need to be careful when importing content from others. 
>>
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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter

Mark S. wrote:

> ...  Modern browsers, as we have found out to our chagrin, tell you that 
> they are doing a download. They can only download to one place, which is 
> usually the download directory. They know nothing about the file system, 
> and can't even tell you the path of an image that has been loaded (also to 
> our chagrin). Once a file is downloaded, it can only be executed by a 
> deliberate action. On Linux, most file managers won't execute from the GUI 
> anymore, so no accidental clicking. On Windows, Windows pops up a message 
> warning you that you are about to run a potentially dangerous file. So it's 
> not easy to get your code executed even if it is downloaded.
>

Ciao Mark. I enjoyed this for both it's accuracy and it's acknowledgment of 
ongoing CHAGRIN. 

As it happens I am still on Timimi previous to latest on Firefox (i.e. the 
Saver & LAUNCHER) that lets you launch apps directly *(with a bit 
la-di-dah)* from TiddlyWiki. 

So, if *that* is insecurity, I'd like more of it. 

I think it insane to force web pages to be stupid when they can be really 
clever. 
TW, in particular, is really great when you also can control the computer 
from it.

Regarding the OP. The tech part of it is above my tech level, but I can't 
see any real issue that differs from the normal caveats about switching on 
a computer.

Best wishes
TT 

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

That was one of the concerns with TWederation. You could import from 
someone you trusted who imported from someone they trusted who ... actually 
couldn't be trusted. It's kind of a hard problem.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:13:42 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>> I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a tiddler 
>> that contained code like this.
>>
>
> From my perspective this is the only practical concern, and once again 
> emphasizes the need to be careful when importing content from others. 
>

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

In my test, the code didn't do anything. So it's hard to evaluate. What 
exactly could the code do? Unless it could write to the file system (which 
is really hard in JS), or if it could send the keystrokes back to a 
server-based entity, it would not be able to accomplish anything. What 
browser are you testing with?

I think the WP article is talking about abilities that existed before 
modern browsers. Modern browsers, as we have found out to our chagrin, tell 
you that they are doing a download. They can only download to one place, 
which is usually the download directory. They know nothing about the file 
system, and can't even tell you the path of an image that has been loaded 
(also to our chagrin). Once a file is downloaded, it can only be executed 
by a deliberate action. On Linux, most file managers won't execute from the 
GUI anymore, so no accidental clicking. On Windows, Windows pops up a 
message warning you that you are about to run a potentially dangerous file. 
So it's not easy to get your code executed even if it is downloaded.

If a person deliberately puts code on their page that does malicious 
things, it doesn't matter how it is inserted. 

So basically, you're just saying that TW uses Javascript and somebody could 
insert additional JS. But that is a weakness/strength of all AJAX pages. 
It's not like I could go to an existing TW site and add my own malicious 
code. It would have to be running a special server based version of TW 
(node, Bob, ) to make that possible -- not the standalone.

In terms of self-protection, the best away to avoid malicious code would be 
to only use code/plugins that are WikiText based (after reviewing that it 
doesn't create JS tiddlers), or only using plugins from sources that you 
really, really trust (e.g. Eric S.)

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:53:28 AM UTC-7 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark, 
>
> The scenario I had in mind was: Person A (attacker), adds malicious code 
> to his TW instance, which is accessible via the web through GitHub pages, 
> or something similar. He then shares his wiki link with Person B, who 
> unknowingly goes to take a look at Person A's wiki. On doing this, Person B 
> then has this malicious JS execute on his end, thereby hacking/infecting 
> him.
>
> With JS, this exploit could be crafted in a variety of ways, as stated, 
> there is already pure-JS ransomware, which, combined with some creativity, 
> could trick the user into allowing the wiki to access the local filesystem. 
> There is also ways of installing damaging malware to the users system (see 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_download), purely from 
> vulnerabilities like this.
>
> So this exploit can reach beyond the scope of there being someone who "can 
> sit down at your desk and insert code."
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to understand what the problem is.
>>
>> TW isn't multi-user. If someone can sit down at your desk and insert 
>> code, then you already have security problems way beyond code.
>> Likewise, if you have a publicly exposed TW that anyone can save with, 
>> then you have security problems beyond a code hack.
>>
>> So I'm not seeing what the concern is. If someone has the ability to save 
>> to your TW, then you already have a security breach, regardless of the 
>> nature of the inserted code.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:21:56 AM UTC-7 R² wrote:
>>
>>> OK, got it to execute. For some mysterious reason, the first few 
>>> keypresses didn't do anything, then a few did, I clicked elsewhere and 
>>> modified another tiddler, the next few didn't, and when I went back to the 
>>> malicious tiddler to get it to execute again, it hadn't recorded keypresses 
>>> made in the other tiddler. It does seem as if it's at least partly 
>>> sandboxed but I'll defer to the core coders, I was just curious to see what 
>>> this was about.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> R²
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Sidebar CSS

2021-08-17 Thread amreus


Hello,

I am trying to set up my wiki so i can use it on my phone as well as 
desktop.

I don't expect to be editing tiddlers or writing filters on the phone.  
That will be done on the desktop.  But I do want to set up the sidebar with 
some tabs and buttons for use on the phone.  I find this is working fairly 
well for me so far.

What I would like to do is set the sidebar width to the same pixel width as 
my phone.  Where can I add the style to add a border around the sidebar, 
and set it's width to exactly 375 pixels?

Thanks.

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[tw5] Reboot of Subsume plugin

2021-08-17 Thread David Gifford


Hi everyone

I have rebooted the Subsume plugin rather than updating it. 
(https://giffmex.org/gifts/subsume.html)

The good news is that it now includes a way to have a subsume with an edit 
button. I like this way better than the regular subsumes with links.

The bad news is that the integration with the relink plugin was causing me 
problems, making the installation process more convoluted, and potentially 
causing problems for users for the future. So I removed the relink-related 
tiddlers, and also made integration with the edit-comptext plugin an 
optional feature, with new instructions. 

This is the best I can do with this. My apologies for any inconveniences to 
anyone who uses Subsume and likes the the relink feature. And my thanks to 
flibbles for catching part of the problem, after which I found other 
complications as well.

Blessings, Dave


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[tw5] Speech To Text v1.0.6 Released - Piping of Text into inputs and textareas


Finn Lancaster and I (Simon Huber alias BurningTreeC) are proud to announce 
the release of v1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin 


It comes with the following changes and additions


   - Insertion of text into inputs and textareas (including CodeMirror) 
   using the "Ok Wiki insert" command
   - More precise configuration of commands in your own language
   - Bug fixes, especially RSOD when trying to start recording while it's 
   already running
   - Configuration option to start recording automatically when the wiki 
   starts up
   - Configuration option for your own commands to stop listening
   - Configuration option for your own commands to insert text into inputs 
   and textareas


Please let us know how you like this version of the plugin

Best wishes

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki


>
>
> I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a tiddler 
> that contained code like this.
>

>From my perspective this is the only practical concern, and once again 
emphasizes the need to be careful when importing content from others. 

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread Soren Bjornstad

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:53:28 AM UTC-5 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark, 
>
> The scenario I had in mind was: Person A (attacker), adds malicious code 
> to his TW instance, which is accessible via the web through GitHub pages, 
> or something similar. He then shares his wiki link with Person B, who 
> unknowingly goes to take a look at Person A's wiki. On doing this, Person B 
> then has this malicious JS execute on his end, thereby hacking/infecting 
> him.
>

I'm still confused about this scenario. If we're not talking about 
inserting the code into someone else's wiki via XSS or something, how does 
TiddlyWiki allow anything here that an arbitrary website wouldn't? If a 
malicious user can post a page on the web and make the target go to it, 
then surely anything that a browser allows is fair game, and if there's 
fault here it should lie with the web browser, not TiddlyWiki. Because even 
if TW changed to disallow this, surely the malicious user could just revert 
that change in their own fork of TiddlyWiki and build their malicious wiki 
on that TW edition?

I'd be more concerned about people being tricked into importing a tiddler 
that contained code like this.

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[tw5] Re: how to set a global variable with a tiddler field value

2021-08-17 Thread Soren Bjornstad

vpl,

First of all, the syntax for incorporating a variable into a filter 
expression is not <> but :

\define test_project() {{{ [get[projectId]] }}}

However, this still may not work, depending on how you use the macro. It's 
tempting to think of macro transclusions as "function calls", where when 
you say <> you get the result of evaluating their contents as 
wikitext. But this is not how macros work – instead, *the exact text of the 
macro* (with any $text substitutions$ the macro might include) is inserted 
wherever the <> is used, which in this case is a filter 
expression in triple curly braces.

Now, this will still work fine if you just say, for instance:

<>

In this case, TW replaces <> with {{{ 
[get[projectId]] }}}, then sees that wikitext in the body of a 
tiddler, evaluates it, and gets the project ID. But it won't work if you 
try to use it within another filter expression, or as the value of an HTML 
or widget attribute, e.g., suppose you had a tiddler whose title was this 
project ID and wanted to transclude it:

<$transclude tiddler=<>/>

In this case, TW will be looking for a tiddler called "{{{ 
[get[projectId]] }}}", and it presumably won't find it.

If you need to, you can get around this with the $wikify widget:

<$wikify name="myProjectId" text=<>>
  <$transclude tiddler="myProjectId"/>

In this case, you explicitly tell TW to evaluate the wikitext "{{{ 
[get[projectId]] }}}", then use the result to transclude the 
appropriate tiddler.

You can read more on this in the Wikification section 
 of *Grok TiddlyWiki*.
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:56:51 AM UTC-5 vpl wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to define a global variable in my script with the value contained 
> into a tiddler field
> When I hard code the global variable like
>
> \define test_project() project-1
>
> I can use the <> variable without issue 
>
> But when I want this <> to be initialised to a tiddler's  
> field like the following this does not work
>
> \define test_project() {{{ [<>get[projectId]] }}}
>
> Any "magic" idea ..??
>
> Thanks a lot for your support
>
> Regards vpl
>

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[tw5] how to set a global variable with a tiddler field value

2021-08-17 Thread vpl

Hi,

I want to define a global variable in my script with the value contained 
into a tiddler field
When I hard code the global variable like

\define test_project() project-1

I can use the <> variable without issue 

But when I want this <> to be initialised to a tiddler's  
field like the following this does not work

\define test_project() {{{ [<>get[projectId]] }}}

Any "magic" idea ..??

Thanks a lot for your support

Regards vpl

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

Mark, 

The scenario I had in mind was: Person A (attacker), adds malicious code to 
his TW instance, which is accessible via the web through GitHub pages, or 
something similar. He then shares his wiki link with Person B, who 
unknowingly goes to take a look at Person A's wiki. On doing this, Person B 
then has this malicious JS execute on his end, thereby hacking/infecting 
him.

With JS, this exploit could be crafted in a variety of ways, as stated, 
there is already pure-JS ransomware, which, combined with some creativity, 
could trick the user into allowing the wiki to access the local filesystem. 
There is also ways of installing damaging malware to the users system 
(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_download), purely from 
vulnerabilities like this.

So this exploit can reach beyond the scope of there being someone who "can 
sit down at your desk and insert code."

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:

> I'm trying to understand what the problem is.
>
> TW isn't multi-user. If someone can sit down at your desk and insert code, 
> then you already have security problems way beyond code.
> Likewise, if you have a publicly exposed TW that anyone can save with, 
> then you have security problems beyond a code hack.
>
> So I'm not seeing what the concern is. If someone has the ability to save 
> to your TW, then you already have a security breach, regardless of the 
> nature of the inserted code.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:21:56 AM UTC-7 R² wrote:
>
>> OK, got it to execute. For some mysterious reason, the first few 
>> keypresses didn't do anything, then a few did, I clicked elsewhere and 
>> modified another tiddler, the next few didn't, and when I went back to the 
>> malicious tiddler to get it to execute again, it hadn't recorded keypresses 
>> made in the other tiddler. It does seem as if it's at least partly 
>> sandboxed but I'll defer to the core coders, I was just curious to see what 
>> this was about.
>>
>> Best,
>> R²
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] ‎The History Show of the GG Community: Travel 17 years back in time in just 3 Hours

2021-08-17 Thread Taacees ME

Hi Jeremy, All,

We've finished the "Phase 1" of this Project, and here are some samples of 
the result: https://bit.ly/37ELoj1 (in 2 formats: single TW5 file & "*.tid" 
files)
Also I created a video https://youtu.be/FuJR-5uSDVU trying to explain both 
the above results and the project itself. 

P.S., 
1- The Project Name has been changed to "510K" after creating the above 
video, cause I'm really interesting to see how TW5 will handle that number 
of tiddlers
2- "Phase 1" is work only with GG Conversations, Messages will be in "Phase 
2"

Thanks

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:59:52 PM UTC Taacees ME wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
> I hope the following will enplane it better, but first of all I don't know 
> yet if this violate any licences or not and I'm still looking if any.
>
> Some Facts:-
> 1- TiddlyWiki has multiple "Data Sources" (Communities) around the 
> internet (this GG, TW5 Dev GG, TW5 Doc GG, GitHub Discussions, Stack 
> Overflow Questions, TW5 on Reddit, .. etc)
> 2- TiddlyWiki is the BEST personal Information Management System we 
> know/used (this is a FACT for me, but to prove it to others, at lease TW 
> should manage its own information).
>
> Now, in a few words; my goal is to EXPORT all TiddlyWiki data/info from 
> those data sourced (by scraping/crawling) and IMPORT them into a unified 
> TiddlyWiki System (converting data units into tiddlers) so we can start 
> use/build over it.
> In other words, let TiddlyWiki own its data that scattered around the 
> Internet and build a "TW Information Portal" that show the EXTREME power of 
> TW5 over its own data.
> NOTE that this will NOT replace any of the original Data Sources, just to 
> complements them and construct a "Portal" that we can build over it
>
> So, at the end of the 1st phase , we'll have a single TiddlyWiki system 
> (Node.js) contains something like the following (ALL the below data will be 
> extracted from the source, NO Human Intervention at this phase):
>
> Imaginary TW5 Google Group Tiddler (we'll have > 120K of them)
> ===
> title: "GG TW5 ID pDlJDdWZNHQ"
> tags: [[2021]] [[Conversation]] [[Message]] [[TiddlyWiki Google Group]]
> custm-field-gg-title: "The History Show of the GG Community"
> custm-field-gg-url:  "https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/pDlJDdWZNHQ
> "
> custm-field-gg-author: "Taacees"
> custm-field-gg-date: "01 Aug 2021"
> text: "Message Body"
> . Any other info in separated "Custom Fields"
> AND a separated tiddler for each reply with links to main Question
>
> Imaginary GitHub Disscussion Tiddler
> =
> title: "GitHub Disscussions ID 5924"
> tags: [[2021]] [[Disscussion]] [[TiddlyWiki GitHub Disscussions]]
> custm-field-gethub-title: "Bitmap editor - should we use pointer events?"
> custm-field-gethub-url:  "
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5924;
> custm-field-gethub-author:  "BurningTreeC"
> custm-field-gethub-date: "01 Aug 2021"
> text: "Message Body"
> . Any other info in separated "Custom Fields"
> AND a separated tiddler for each reply with links to main Question
>
> Imaginary Reddit Quesion/Comment Tiddler
> =
> title: "Reddit Question ID onx6qn"
> tages: [[2021]] [[Reddit]] [[Question]]
> custm-field-reddit-title: "Newbie Question: Editing a field in a template"
> custm-field-reddit-url:  "
> https://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5/comments/onx6qn/newbie_question_editing_a_field_in_a_template/
> "
> custm-field-reddit-author: "u/OneDiscombobulated83"
> custm-field-reddit-date: "01 Aug 2021"
> text: "Question Body"
> . Any other info in separated "Custom Fields"
> AND a separated tiddler for each reply with links to main Question
>
> Imaginary Stack Overflow Quesion/Answer Tiddler
> ===
> title: "StackOverflow Answer ID 34693482"
> tages: [[2016]] [[Stack Overflow]] [[Reply]] [[Answer]]
> custom-field-stackoverflow-title: tiddlywiki: "can't save changes in 
> QWebView"
> custom-field-stackoverflow-date: "9 Jan 2016"
> custom-field-stackoverflow-url:  "
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34693482/tiddlywiki-cant-save-changes-in-qwebview
> "
> text: "Question Body"
> . All other info in separated "Custom Fields"
> AND separated tiddler for each answers with links to main Question
>
> I hope this make the idea more clear, but It'll be more visible after 
> showing some example "tid" files.
>
> And, regarding the Tools, I'm developing those scrapers/crawlers using the 
> following golang libraries:
>
>- gocolly/colly 
>- chromedp/chromedp 
>
> Regards
>
> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 2:41:26 PM UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Taacees
>>
>> Thank you! The project looks intriguing, could you explain a little more? 
>> From the GitHub repo I understand that you’re trying to mine the Google 
>> Group archive for useful

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

I'm trying to understand what the problem is.

TW isn't multi-user. If someone can sit down at your desk and insert code, 
then you already have security problems way beyond code.
Likewise, if you have a publicly exposed TW that anyone can save with, then 
you have security problems beyond a code hack.

So I'm not seeing what the concern is. If someone has the ability to save 
to your TW, then you already have a security breach, regardless of the 
nature of the inserted code.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:21:56 AM UTC-7 R² wrote:

> OK, got it to execute. For some mysterious reason, the first few 
> keypresses didn't do anything, then a few did, I clicked elsewhere and 
> modified another tiddler, the next few didn't, and when I went back to the 
> malicious tiddler to get it to execute again, it hadn't recorded keypresses 
> made in the other tiddler. It does seem as if it's at least partly 
> sandboxed but I'll defer to the core coders, I was just curious to see what 
> this was about.
>
> Best,
> R²
>

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread R²

OK, got it to execute. For some mysterious reason, the first few keypresses 
didn't do anything, then a few did, I clicked elsewhere and modified 
another tiddler, the next few didn't, and when I went back to the malicious 
tiddler to get it to execute again, it hadn't recorded keypresses made in 
the other tiddler. It does seem as if it's at least partly sandboxed but 
I'll defer to the core coders, I was just curious to see what this was 
about.

Best,
R²

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

@R2, the tiddler is blank by design. Once you have saved the tiddler, press 
a key on your keyboard, and it alerts the keynumber back to you. Typing 
multiple keys it will alert each key you've pressed as part of *every 
keypress*.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:47:27 AM UTC-4 R² wrote:

> Hi Finn,
>
> Could you perhaps post a video of what you see on your end? I tried on 
> several instances and don't get the "will alert your keystrokes back to 
> you" part, just a seemingly empty tiddler.
>
> Best,
> R²
>

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread R²

Hi Finn,

Could you perhaps post a video of what you see on your end? I tried on 
several instances and don't get the "will alert your keystrokes back to 
you" part, just a seemingly empty tiddler.

Best,
R²

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[tw5] TiddlyWikis on node.js: includeWikis: configuration BEFORE includes

Boys o' boys, I really like the includeWikis
thing for
node.js TiddlyWikis. I am an organization fiend, and includeWikis rocks.

The only problem I've found is a need for a wee heads-up in the
documentation. Maybe a conversation here can fill the gap.

Scenario:

- TiddlyWiki A is meant to be included in other TiddlyWikis
- TiddlyWiki B is setup to include TiddlyWiki A

When I first started up and visited TiddlyWiki B after configuring its
tiddlywiki.info to include TiddlyWiki A, I immediately noticed that
TiddlyWiki B had the title for TiddlyWiki A.

Changing the title for TiddlyWiki B wound up changing the title for
TiddlyWiki A, because TiddlyWiki B is including all the tiddlers from
TiddlyWiki A.

So I:

- reverted the title on TiddlyWiki A
- modified TiddlyWiki B's tiddlywiki.info to not include TiddlyWiki A
- started up, visited, and altered TiddlyWiki B's title
- modified TiddlyWiki B's tiddlywiki.info to again include TiddlyWiki A
- stopped, restarted, and visited TiddlyWiki B, and all was well
title-wise

When setting up a TiddlyWiki on node.js, configure everything that will be
unique to that tiddlywiki before including other TiddlyWikis.

If any configuration of TiddlyWiki B needs to happen after having included
TiddlyWiki A, best to follow the steps in the bulleted list above.

Please note: there is no problem here. Nothing that needs to be fixed. I
believe all of that is A-1. It is just an "admin" process, and folk should
have an awareness of it.

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[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

Update: just let the devs know 
(https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/5960)

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:12:15 AM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Following the discovery of the iframe content to execute JS in TiddlyWiki, 
> I began pentesting TW to find other methods of executing JS, but without 
> any kind of sandbox. What I discovered is that TW correctly sanitizes 
>

[tw5] I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

Hello All,

Following the discovery of the iframe content to execute JS in TiddlyWiki, 
I began pentesting TW to find other methods of executing JS, but without 
any kind of sandbox. What I discovered is that TW correctly sanitizes

Re: [tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

Thank you BTC!
I follow your progress with interest!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:13 PM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hi @Mohammad, that's probably possible somehow
> Maybe in a future release we can implement this
> At the moment we want to get all bugs resolved if we find any
>
> best wishes,
> BTC
>
> Mohammad schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 10:34:11 UTC+2:
>
>> Hi BTC,
>>  This may seems stupid question:
>>
>> But is it also possible to have voice or audio tiddler?
>> I mean like Clubhouse, I can record a voice and save it as an AUDIO
>> tiddler, a brand new tiddler kust like image tiddler!
>> In this way I can issue commands to TW to start recording and then saving
>> an audio tiddler and the distributing it!
>>
>> I assume I can have some audio-book, audio-lecture or similar things!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin
>>> available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net
>>>
>>> *What's new?*
>>> You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the
>>> command *Ok Wiki insert*
>>>
>>> To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to
>>> "continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab
>>>
>>> We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're
>>> very open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> BTC
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-17 Thread Jeremy Ruston

The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an experiment at 
this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with Google Groups, but if 
people like the new system then we will migrate fully over to it.

We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few hours time:

https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28

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> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for sharing BTC!
> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
> 
> Is this the one I wished?
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC  
>> wrote:
>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>> 
>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> 
>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the 
>> new Forum?
>> 
>> just out of interest :)
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> BTC
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[tw5] Re: convert date in a text field to date format

2021-08-17 Thread S²

Mark,
yes, Eric's macro is there, tagged as ' $:/tags/Macro'.

I downloaded an emty Wiki - 'published-tw' field will also not be filled.

To use the "Update Publication Dates" button is a workaround but not the 
best solution.

I miss a system '*date*' field, like '*created*' or '*modified*'.
When this field is filled with format "DDth MMM " than it is a valid 
date of "[UTC]0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss0XXX" 

BTW: in $:/ControlPanel/Title of new journal tiddlers 
<#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FNewJournal%2FTitle> is the same format (DDth MMM ) 
defined 

*One solution can be:*
1. Adding a text field (eg 'published')
2. Define, that this field is a date/time field 
3. The value of the 'published' field will be converted to 
"[UTC]0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss0XXX" 
and is available as system '*date*' field. 

Than it can also be used in TOC like
*> *

as it is possible for created: 
*>*

Regards
Stefan

Mark S. schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 01:00:46 UTC+2:

> [image: screenshot-converted-date.png]
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:57:54 PM UTC-7 Mark S. wrote:
>
>>
>> So, did you add Eric's macro to your TW and verify it works? That would 
>> be the first step in trouble-shooting. Remember, after loading the 
>> convertdate macro, you have to save and reload your TW file.
>>
>> It worked for me without problem:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:30:13 PM UTC-7 S² wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, thanks for feedback.
>>>
>>> The added 'published-tw' field is empty - no values:
>>> [image: published-tw.png]
>>>
>>> Mark S. schrieb am Montag, 16. August 2021 um 20:31:28 UTC+2:
>>>
 So what you really need is a filter operator that can do the conversion 
 and be used inside a sortsub operator. @Eric ?

 If you're willing to use an "update" button, one solution would be a 
 button that creates "published-tw" (date in TW format) fields for any 
 tiddler that has a "published" field. Then you could have the TOC sort on 
 the published-tw field. You would have to remember to periodically perform 
 the "update" whenever you had data changes. This two-step approach makes 
 certain activities in TW much easier to handle.

 So the code to update the field might look like:

 <$button>Update Publication Dates
 <$list filter="[has[published]]">
 <$wikify text="""<$macrocall $name=convertdate from={{!!published}} 
 to="[UTC]0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss0XXX" />""" name=result >
 <$action-setfield $field=published-tw $value=<> />
 
 
 

 Be sure to make a backup before trying this of course. Also, this 
 assumes that you have the latest version of Eric's converdate macro 
 installed.


 On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:37:26 AM UTC-7 S² wrote:

> Hello,
>
> thanks for all input and effort.
> It looks like it is not so easy...
>
> As I wrote, I use the text field ‘publish’ to add a date. (date 
> modified or created will not help me)
>
> This date can also be in the future.
> Format is *T.  * - (eg. *7. April 2021* or *13. August 2021*) 
> – this is the long date in German (like "DDth MMM ")
>
> 'published' is also shown in TOC:
>
>   [image: TOC.png]
>
> Now asked for a way to sort TOC on ‘published’ instead of Tiddler 
> title.
>
> The output should still be "DDth MMM "
>
> Thanks
> Stefan
> Eric Shulman schrieb am Montag, 16. August 2021 um 03:12:35 UTC+2:
>
>> On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 4:47:47 PM UTC-7 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> Just tried 
>>> <>> to:"[UTC]0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss0XXX">>
>>> and got a hard RSOE ("from" not defined). I think the arguments need 
>>> to be tweaked in the macro.
>>>
>>
>> OOPS!  I had originally used "date" and "format" as the parameter 
>> names, but then I decided to change to using "from" and "to".  
>> Unfortunately, the arguments in the macro function declaration were 
>> still 
>> using "date" and "format", but internally, the macro code referenced 
>> "from" 
>> and "to" as intended.  I've corrected the arguments in the macro 
>> function 
>> declaration and posted an update here:
>>
>> https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html#TiddlyTools%2FTime%2FConvertDate
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -e
>>
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[tw5] Re: Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and TiddlyWiki

2021-08-17 Thread ludwa6

Good catch, @Mohammad; this solution -which involves a good few steps to 
set up, but the whole soup-to-nuts solution appears well-documented here 

-is brilliant! 

If this is not the first commercial application of TW-tech ever to be 
announced publicly (or is it? 1st i've heard about, anyway), it is moreover 
a solution to what is quite a common problem.  WooCommerce on Wordpress, 
though probably the most widely deployed eCommerce solution for small 
business, it is also (ironically) no trivial thing to manage on the 
backend, as the author of the tweeted article 

points out.  His solution (once you get it configured) sidesteps all that 
backend complexity nicely, while enabling the eTailer to run day-to-day ops 
entirely from a TW-based dashboard.  How cool is that, eh?

As it happens: my colleague is struggling with the WooCommerce-on-WP 
backend as i write this, trying to port our little market garden eShop 
 over from Squarespace to a new WP site... 
So, though this involves a number of technologies that i know nothing 
about, i'm curious to explore this toolchain as a possible alternative!

/walt

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:04:02 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

>
> https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1427316920441843717?s=20
>
> Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and 
> TiddlyWiki
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

Hi @Mohammad, that's probably possible somehow
Maybe in a future release we can implement this
At the moment we want to get all bugs resolved if we find any

best wishes,
BTC

Mohammad schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 10:34:11 UTC+2:

> Hi BTC,
>  This may seems stupid question:
>
> But is it also possible to have voice or audio tiddler?
> I mean like Clubhouse, I can record a voice and save it as an AUDIO 
> tiddler, a brand new tiddler kust like image tiddler!
> In this way I can issue commands to TW to start recording and then saving 
> an audio tiddler and the distributing it!
>
> I assume I can have some audio-book, audio-lecture or similar things!
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM BurningTreeC  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin 
>> available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net
>>
>> *What's new?*
>> You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the 
>> command *Ok Wiki insert*
>>
>> To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to 
>> "continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab
>>
>> We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're very 
>> open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

Hi BTC,
 This may seems stupid question:

But is it also possible to have voice or audio tiddler?
I mean like Clubhouse, I can record a voice and save it as an AUDIO
tiddler, a brand new tiddler kust like image tiddler!
In this way I can issue commands to TW to start recording and then saving
an audio tiddler and the distributing it!

I assume I can have some audio-book, audio-lecture or similar things!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin
> available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net
>
> *What's new?*
> You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the
> command *Ok Wiki insert*
>
> To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to
> "continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab
>
> We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're very
> open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports
>
> Best wishes,
> BTC
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[tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

Hello all,

There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin 
available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net

*What's new?*
You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the 
command *Ok Wiki insert*

To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to 
"continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab

We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're very 
open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports

Best wishes,
BTC

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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

Thanks for sharing BTC!
I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!

Is this the one I wished?



Best wishes
Mohammad


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>
> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>
> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the
> new Forum?
>
> just out of interest :)
>
> Best wishes,
> BTC
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[tw5] Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and TiddlyWiki

https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1427316920441843717?s=20

Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and
TiddlyWiki

Best wishes
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[tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?