[tw5] SnapshotPlugin question redux

[Chris Eichenberg]

I searched for an answer but the closest I got was this . . . 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Llh2xOl5YkM/m/tWsraRiaxvsJ

I'm using the form and data plugins to create a template to create a 
narrative to which to which I would plug in data, output the finish 
product. 

Like the poster above I am not getting the output with the data. It is 
outputting the template as blank not populated.

I guess first, does anyone recall if there was ever a solution? Second can 
anyone think of tweak that would get the data to output?

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[tw5] dropdown to filter journal entries

[Chris Rodgers]

Hi!  I have several tiddlewiki's that I would like to combine, since they 
are similar or have related subjects.  I typically take notes as Journal 
entries.  I have a typical Journal tiddler like this:


<>


...and I present it in a main page as a collapsible list of notes:

<$details summary="Notes" open="yes" 
state="$:/state/myDetailsContentsNotesStateTiddler">
{{Journal}}


If I combine all of my notes/journal entries in one area, I would like to 
select the subject.  If I tag each journal entry with a subject tag, is 
there a way to present a drop-down of subjects that can be used in the 
toc?  Maybe by default all tiddlers tagged with Journal, but a dropdown 
that I can select one (or more) subjects so that the search is for Journal 
and the subject tag?

Or is there a more elegant way of keeping journals for 3 subjects so that I 
can look at a list of journal entries for just one subject, or several 
subjects, or all subjects without hard-coding everything?  I could create 3 
different journal tiddlers, each hardcoded to one subject, but then as I 
add subjects, it gets to be more and more hardcoded sections and I miss 
being able to see all journal entries by date, regardless of subject.

Thoughts?

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[tw5] Update MetaTabs

[Chris Eichenberg]

Are there any plans to update MetaTabs? Looks the last update was a few 
years ago.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Keyboard widget

[Chris Nicoll]

Hi Tones,

I expect you can write the config tiddler yourself, if you want it preset,
without the control panel step.

On Mon., Jan. 25, 2021, 23:42 TW Tones,  wrote:

> Thanks Chris,
>
> I will work through your instructions, but do I read your notes to suggest
> what I expected that there is a step that can only be interactive?
>
> If so how do we distribute shortcut(s) ?
>
> Regrds
> Tones
> On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 14:08:09 UTC+11 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi Tones,
>>
>> To test, I made one to pop up HelloThere in a modal, by following the
>> directions in the Keyboard Shortcut Tiddler tiddler.
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Keyboard%20Shortcut%20Tiddler>
>>
>> Overview: I had to create two tiddlers, then go into Control Panel ->
>> Keyboard Shortcuts to set the key combination for the shortcut.
>>
>> I called my shortcut "canscut".
>>
>> First I made a tiddler with an arbitrary title, whose text field contains
>> the action I want the shortcut to invoke; in this case:
>>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="HelloThere" />
>>
>> I added a field with name key and value ((canscut)), and tagged it
>> $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut. That takes care of setting up the actions and
>> the reference key so the shortcut can be referred to in macros without
>> being opinionated on what its specific key combo should be.
>>
>> Then I created the tiddler $:/config/ShortcutInfo/canscut -- I didn't
>> have to put anything into it; that's enough to add a row into the
>> appropriate part of Control Panel -> Keyboard Shortcuts, so that the key
>> combo can be set interactively. Once I used that interface to set the key
>> combination, the tiddler $:/config/shortcuts/canscut was generated with
>> shift-cmd-G in the text field.
>>
>> And voila, now if I hit shift-cmd-G, I get the HelloThere tiddler in a
>> modal.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Chris
>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 8:24:56 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Have you found a easy to use way to create your own global shortcuts?
>>>
>>> I found a few times trying to understand the keyboard shortcuts some
>>> gaps in the doco. First I would like to understand, then update the doco.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 12:12:03 UTC+11 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haha, I'm just looking at the source for the keyboard-driven-input
>>>> macro and it has five nested keyboard widgets, so I venture a guess
>>>> that there's not an obviously better way just now.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 7:56:55 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Tones,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had another look at the global keyboard shortcuts, and I haven't
>>>>> tried it, but the presence of duplicate key combinations in the shortcut
>>>>> list does make me hopeful that I might be able to just add more duplicate
>>>>> global shortcuts and have them work appropriately with a macro that only
>>>>> works under, as you say, given conditions. It does sound like something
>>>>> that could require careful thought to avoid conflict. But definitely
>>>>> something to think about!
>>>>>
>>>>> For now, I think I'll leave my nested keyboard widgets in place, since
>>>>> they work and haven't caused me any grief, unless it's through a
>>>>> performance hit. I certainly have other optimisations I can focus on!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 4:58:22 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Clutterstack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am no expert in keyboard shortcuts for sure, but with 5.1.23 we can
>>>>>> now use the modifier keys, so alt- shift- ctrl- can be interrogated in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> actions macro if appropriate you can then use one key, 3-4 modifier keys 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> perhaps a global short cut that responds to conditions and modifier keys 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> another approach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 24 January 2021 at 15:02:39 UTC+11 clutterstack wrote:
>>>>>>
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[tw5] TiddlyWiki Gitea Saver issues

[Chris Yarger]

 As for updating from the old to new version I've put together a few selenium 
scripts to do the upgrade. Then using the JavaScriptExecutor I was able to 
rewrite the title, subtitle and default tiddles to the new shadow tiddle form 
that starts with $:/ 

I'll post links to the program and update process once I have them sanitized

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki Gitea Saver issues

[Chris Yarger]

I believe the key on the request header in the gitea saver is Content-Type 
whereas the https.js required Content-type or vise versa

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki Gitea Saver issues

[Chris Yarger]

The gitea saver issue Is due to a mismatch between the request header-types. 

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki Gitea Saver issues

[Chris Yarger]

I am trying to use the gitea saver, I have fixed most of the issues but am 
currently being left with an issue due to the SHA hash not being included 
with the final put request

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Re: [tw5] Re: Table of Contents by list field?

[Chris Nicoll]

@Birthe Aha. I knew there had to be other approaches in the wild.

That's what I'm doing but in reverse, making the child tiddler do the work
of keeping track of the relationship. It all orbits around ways to connect
tiddlers and present those connections...I like PMario's approach too,
because it keeps tags for other things.

But so far they all seem to work.

Cheers,
Chris

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:17 PM Birthe C  wrote:

> You use the list field, PMario used parent field
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/ I like that one and has used it
> in a couple of wikis.
>
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Re: [tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

Hi Springer, thanks very much for giving this some thought, I appreciate it.  
I'm also irritated with myself now.  It had never occurred to me to try the 
simple solution!  I was completely fixated on the fact that the 'Share / Create 
link' process didn't yield a result.  Double sigh.  Anyway, thanks very much, 
again, for pointing me in the right direction.  You've single handedly saved me 
having to bounce the pictures through Google Photos to Dropbox!  Brilliant.  
Have a great day / evening, wherever you are and stay safe.

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Re: [tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

Nope.  Just tried it and it doesn't work.  Sigh.  Back to the drawing board 
with that one.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:43:43 AM UTC+1, Chris Helm wrote:
>
> Thanks for this too, Springer.  Now I'm wondering whether this might solve 
> another, related problem, which is that I can't get pictures stored in 
> Google Photos to render either.  Regards, Chris
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:32:35 AM UTC+1, springer wrote:
>>
>> Another solution: I've been serving up dropbox images everywhere with no 
>> trouble, always replacing the final dl=0 with raw=1
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6hm0wtjbp2wa2u/tw5-1-22.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> becomes 
>>
>> [img[tooltip|https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6hm0wtjbp2wa2u/tw5-1-22.jpg?raw=1
>> ]]
>>
>> Seems to work uniformly, so far.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

Thanks for this too, Springer.  Now I'm wondering whether this might solve 
another, related problem, which is that I can't get pictures stored in 
Google Photos to render either.  Regards, Chris

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:32:35 AM UTC+1, springer wrote:
>
> Another solution: I've been serving up dropbox images everywhere with no 
> trouble, always replacing the final dl=0 with raw=1
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6hm0wtjbp2wa2u/tw5-1-22.jpg?dl=0
>
> becomes 
>
> [img[tooltip|https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6hm0wtjbp2wa2u/tw5-1-22.jpg?raw=1
> ]]
>
> Seems to work uniformly, so far.
>

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Re: [tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

And thank you too, Glenn, not only for a prompt response but the solution 
too!  I'm grateful AND impressed.  :-)  So I'll go off now and try out your 
fix.  Best regards, Chris

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:47:27 PM UTC+1, Glenn McLelland wrote:
>
> You just need to replace www.dropbox.com with dl.dropboxusercontent.com 
> and then it will work.
>
> [img[
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/3j94lvbwqubk0kn/IMG-20200605-WA0008.jpeg
> ]]
>
> See https://ryanmo.co/2013/11/03/dropboxsharedlinks/ for more info.
>
> Cheers!
>

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Re: [tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

Hi Jeremy, thanks very much for such a prompt response.  I'm glad to find 
that it's not me.  Best regards, Chris

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:32:43 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
>
> I can confirm the problem. The same problem occurs with putting https://www.dropbox.com/s/3j94lvbwqubk0kn/IMG-20200605-WA0008.jpeg?dl=1"/> 
> into a plain HTML tiddler, so I think this is a peculiarity of Dropbox and 
> Safari, rather than TiddlyWiki.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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> On 17 Jun 2020, at 17:53, Chris Helm > 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello all, 
>
> I'm a relative newbie with Tiddlywiki and I'm struggling with the 
> following problem.  A search of this site and Google in general doesn't 
> indicate that it's been addressed already so could I ask for your help with 
> it please?  
>
> I'm using Tiddlyspot to host a TW5 file that publishes the results from a 
> continuing series of games that I've been playing solo during lockdown, 
> with the idea that a few, interested friends can follow the progress.  The 
> Tiddlywiki can be found here http://nyikancrisis.tiddlyspot.com.
>
> To keep the footprint of the Tiddlywiki file as small as possible, I've 
> avoided embedding imagery in the file.  Instead I've linked the images from 
> my Dropbox account using this link syntax: [img[
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3j94lvbwqubk0kn/IMG-20200605-WA0008.jpeg?dl=1]]
>
> Everything is working perfectly except that no one using Safari on any 
> Apple device can see the pictures, they simply don't render.  
>
> One of my friends has suggested that this is to do with Safari and it's 
> 'Cross Origin Restrictions'.  I'm reading up on this at the moment (here's 
> an example 
> https://www.webdavsystem.com/ajax/programming/cross_origin_requests/).  
> If I'm interpreting this correctly, it seems that I will have to insert 
> some Access Control headers into the Tiddlywiki file, which is well beyond 
> my skill level at the moment.
>
> So my questions are these.  Has anyone in the group encountered this 
> problem before and, if so, identified a solution that works for TW5?  Am I 
> in any way on the right track to a solution?
>
> I'd be grateful for any suggestions you may offer.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chris
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[tw5] Safari does not render linked images

[Chris Helm]

Hello all, 

I'm a relative newbie with Tiddlywiki and I'm struggling with the following 
problem.  A search of this site and Google in general doesn't indicate that 
it's been addressed already so could I ask for your help with it please?  

I'm using Tiddlyspot to host a TW5 file that publishes the results from a 
continuing series of games that I've been playing solo during lockdown, 
with the idea that a few, interested friends can follow the progress.  The 
Tiddlywiki can be found here http://nyikancrisis.tiddlyspot.com.

To keep the footprint of the Tiddlywiki file as small as possible, I've 
avoided embedding imagery in the file.  Instead I've linked the images from 
my Dropbox account using this link syntax: 
[img[https://www.dropbox.com/s/3j94lvbwqubk0kn/IMG-20200605-WA0008.jpeg?dl=1]]

Everything is working perfectly except that no one using Safari on any 
Apple device can see the pictures, they simply don't render.  

One of my friends has suggested that this is to do with Safari and it's 
'Cross Origin Restrictions'.  I'm reading up on this at the moment (here's 
an example 
https://www.webdavsystem.com/ajax/programming/cross_origin_requests/).  If 
I'm interpreting this correctly, it seems that I will have to insert some 
Access Control headers into the Tiddlywiki file, which is well beyond my 
skill level at the moment.

So my questions are these.  Has anyone in the group encountered this 
problem before and, if so, identified a solution that works for TW5?  Am I 
in any way on the right track to a solution?

I'd be grateful for any suggestions you may offer.

Best regards,

Chris

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[tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Chris Nicoll]

This looks fantastic, Saq. It's so close to something I'm working on, but 
you're ahead of me. I should pause and do something else while you and 
bimlas do the heavy lifting. Plugin or pattern, it will be very popular.

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:44:31 PM UTC-4, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> When I'm under the weather I tend to prototype. Spent some time reworking 
> code from my eternally in progress task manager in an attempt to make it 
> more general purpose, as a bullet list note taking tool that may be of 
> utility to others. 
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SB06s13tj8P3cC2UewnfzXf08UQ7jwYK/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SLESm6OIfHsScwYePGOs5ce3o3wpQ0CO/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> - everything except the dragging is keyboard driven
> - each bullet is a separate tiddler. Lots of different pros and cons to 
> this approach, but was ideal for a task manager.
> - this is all in wikitext, no extra JS.
>
>  Will post the file in the near future, a bit more clean up needed. Don't 
> expect a final product, but rather a pattern to follow that would hopefully 
> help anyone wanting to implement similar workflow. 
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?

[Chris Aldrich]

I can see your screenshot, but it doesn't indicate to me what it is that 
you're expecting or what you feel is wrong.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> see screenshot.
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> 21 Apr 2020, 22:19 by christoph...@gmail.com :
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "the bit with the link is not quite right". 
> Do you have an example you could share so we might replicate what you're 
> seeing?  Could you let me know what you might expect? (I'll admit I was 
> doing this incredibly late at night and haven't battle tested it against 
> the hundreds of links I typically would, particularly in hopes that someone 
> would do something like this: 
> https://nesslabs.com/roam-research-bookmarklet).
>
> I've already seen a few websites that include a `|` character in their 
> titles, and those require a manual tweak to make sure the links work 
> appropriately once you've saved your Tiddler.
>
> Most of the code was straightforward enough for me to figure out based on 
> a handful of examples I was able to find. (I know no JavaScript.) Most of 
> the confusing portions for the formatting are really just knowing the 
> proper escape characters and html entities so that when you cut and paste 
> them you get the correct results. You can find a list of html entities at 
> many sites including https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html and 
> having that as a cheat sheet should allow you to get things to work exactly 
> the way you'd like to have them if you want to tinker around.
>
> I have a suspicion that someone with more JavaScript skills than I might 
> be able to:
> * allow for cutting and pasting of a full HTML version of text from a 
> website (to get the links and other top level html tags as well)
> * potentially include a "key" to a particular TW5 instance's location 
> (URL) so that instead of needing to cut and pasting, the entirety of the 
> cut/pasted content and details are automatically be sent to one's TW and 
> entered into a new Tiddler.
> * These would potentially allow the bookmarklet to be built into TW core 
> so that new users could drag and drop a link from a Tiddler (perhaps from a 
> tab in the Control Panel) into their browser bar that would "just work"™.
>
> I also did things from a relatively basic boiler plate and then gradually 
> tweaked them step-by-step to get the output I wanted. If you want my 
> scratch pad and some hints or alternate versions, here's a useful Tiddler: 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20experiments 
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:22:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Chris, very useful bookmarklet, thanks, I love bookmarklets :-)
>
> 1 small suggestion of correction: the bit with the link is not quite 
> right, visually, although the link works. I looked at the JS but could not 
> see where the correction should be made - I am a JS dummy, as well as a TW 
> dummy :-(
>
>
> 21 Apr 2020, 12:54 by christoph...@gmail.com:
>
> Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or 
> just didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 
>
> Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to 
> his and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, 
> mine will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the 
> bookmarklet to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of 
> the highlighted text and a pre-formatted link to the source.
>
> Details here: 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
> Other ideas for doing this sort of thing are more than welcome, and if 
> anyone has further ideas or improvements, I'm sure we'd all love to hear 
> them. Surely there's an easier way...
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have a bookmarklet you can try. Might not be as smooth as those others 
> but it works.
>
> https://techlifeweb.com/tw5tribalknowledge.html#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20links%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM UTC-7, Yif Dai wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I find web clipper (Evernote, Notion, etc.) really handy.  The drawbacks 
> of those web clippers are that they are tied to third-party services.  I 
> wonder if you know any standalone web clippers or can offer some workaround 
> so that I can easily clip web pages into TiddlyWiki.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yif
>
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[tw5] Re: Tutorial: How to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator

[Chris Aldrich]

Busy day! :) I've added your tutorial to the IndieWeb wiki. I'm curious if 
you have an example site to go with it that we could list as well?

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 7:53:38 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Hi everyone — here 
>  is a short 
> tutorial to use TiddlyWiki as a static website generator. Would love any 
> feedback or suggestions. Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matushak Notes and Tiddlywiki

[Chris Aldrich]

I'm sure it's prior art, but Ward Cunningham, the godfather of wikis, 
created the Smallest Federated Wiki  
at IndieWebCamp 2011, which looks and acts a lot like Andy's wiki. Here's 
an example: http://fed.wiki/. If I recall correctly a lot of it was written 
in node.js and it's available on GitHub for those interested.

Incidentally, for those interested in wiki UI and blue sky ideas, I'm 
hosting a wiki-related IndieWebCamp session this weekend: 
https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/gardens-and-streams-wikis-blogs-and-ui-a-pop-up-indiewebcamp-session-j9bg0pJDBgBD
 
Everyone is welcome to join and it should be an interesting group of people.

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> I just saw it! Looks amazing. Let's talk about it but I want to include 
> this in my TW static website generator tutorial, much easier to implement 
> than the way I went about it. Thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 11:20:13 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> oh and I just sent you a clunky version I whipped up this afternoon!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>>
>>> @David Thanks to a good friend who's very talented, I'm actually making 
>>> progress !
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:

 I do like the transclude tiddler in popup upon hovering over a link. I 
 know Anne-Laure Le Cunff was trying to replicate that feature.

 Sliding the story river horizontally is kind of neat and over all 
 fairly intuitive, but in one aspect is confusing - I clicked on a number 
 of 
 links, but then some were no longer open when I slide the scrollbar at the 
 bottom. I think the idea is, notes opened from links in a note only open 
 one at a time. If you click another link from the original note, the first 
 note you opened from there will close and the second will replace it. The 
 rule makes sense, it is just my years working with tiddlywiki that makes 
 it 
 confusing to me.

 I do like the 'clean' feel to it as a reading experience. No sidebar, 
 just a minimal top bar. Feels like a 'dynamic' html produced by whatever 
 app he is using.

 For my money, I would prefer the flexibility of TW. But I do admit it 
 is nice-looking.

 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Sorry to ask this question. Recently I see in twitter and also here 
> there is a talk on Andy notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/ 
> 
> ,
> Some people say it is very impressive. As a basic user of Tiddlywiki, 
> I think  vanilla TW is better than Andy notes!
>
> Can anyone simply explain, what it has, TW does not have in empty.html 
> (vanilla version)?
>
>
> --Mohammad
>


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Re: [tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?

[Chris Aldrich]

I'm not sure what you mean by "the bit with the link is not quite right". 
Do you have an example you could share so we might replicate what you're 
seeing?  Could you let me know what you might expect? (I'll admit I was 
doing this incredibly late at night and haven't battle tested it against 
the hundreds of links I typically would, particularly in hopes that someone 
would do something like this: https://nesslabs.com/roam-research-bookmarklet
).

I've already seen a few websites that include a `|` character in their 
titles, and those require a manual tweak to make sure the links work 
appropriately once you've saved your Tiddler.

Most of the code was straightforward enough for me to figure out based on a 
handful of examples I was able to find. (I know no JavaScript.) Most of the 
confusing portions for the formatting are really just knowing the proper 
escape characters and html entities so that when you cut and paste them you 
get the correct results. You can find a list of html entities at many sites 
including https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html and having that 
as a cheat sheet should allow you to get things to work exactly the way 
you'd like to have them if you want to tinker around.

I have a suspicion that someone with more JavaScript skills than I might be 
able to:
* allow for cutting and pasting of a full HTML version of text from a 
website (to get the links and other top level html tags as well)
* potentially include a "key" to a particular TW5 instance's location (URL) 
so that instead of needing to cut and pasting, the entirety of the 
cut/pasted content and details are automatically be sent to one's TW and 
entered into a new Tiddler.
* These would potentially allow the bookmarklet to be built into TW core so 
that new users could drag and drop a link from a Tiddler (perhaps from a 
tab in the Control Panel) into their browser bar that would "just work"™.

I also did things from a relatively basic boiler plate and then gradually 
tweaked them step-by-step to get the output I wanted. If you want my 
scratch pad and some hints or alternate versions, here's a useful Tiddler: 
http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20experiments 

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:22:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Chris, very useful bookmarklet, thanks, I love bookmarklets :-)
>
> 1 small suggestion of correction: the bit with the link is not quite 
> right, visually, although the link works. I looked at the JS but could not 
> see where the correction should be made - I am a JS dummy, as well as a TW 
> dummy :-(
>
>
> 21 Apr 2020, 12:54 by christoph...@gmail.com :
>
> Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or 
> just didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 
>
> Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to 
> his and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, 
> mine will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the 
> bookmarklet to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of 
> the highlighted text and a pre-formatted link to the source.
>
> Details here: 
> http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
> Other ideas for doing this sort of thing are more than welcome, and if 
> anyone has further ideas or improvements, I'm sure we'd all love to hear 
> them. Surely there's an easier way...
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have a bookmarklet you can try. Might not be as smooth as those others 
> but it works.
>
> https://techlifeweb.com/tw5tribalknowledge.html#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20links%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM UTC-7, Yif Dai wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I find web clipper (Evernote, Notion, etc.) really handy.  The drawbacks 
> of those web clippers are that they are tied to third-party services.  I 
> wonder if you know any standalone web clippers or can offer some workaround 
> so that I can easily clip web pages into TiddlyWiki.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yif
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Clip web page to TW?

[Chris Aldrich]

Some of the methods in this thread didn't do quite what I had hoped (or 
just didn't seem to work in the most recent version of TW5?). 

Scott's was pretty close to workable for me. I made a version similar to 
his and extended it a bit. While Scott's does a bookmark-like wiki link, 
mine will allow you to highlight a part of a web page and then use the 
bookmarklet to cut/paste to quickly import a tiddler with a blockquote of 
the highlighted text and a pre-formatted link to the source.

Details here: 
http://tw.boffosocko.com/#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20content%20into%20TiddlyWiki

Other ideas for doing this sort of thing are more than welcome, and if 
anyone has further ideas or improvements, I'm sure we'd all love to hear 
them. Surely there's an easier way...

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have a bookmarklet you can try. Might not be as smooth as those others 
> but it works.
>
> https://techlifeweb.com/tw5tribalknowledge.html#Bookmarklet%20for%20pasting%20links%20into%20TiddlyWiki
>
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM UTC-7, Yif Dai wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I find web clipper (Evernote, Notion, etc.) really handy.  The drawbacks 
>> of those web clippers are that they are tied to third-party services.  I 
>> wonder if you know any standalone web clippers or can offer some workaround 
>> so that I can easily clip web pages into TiddlyWiki.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Yif
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: IndieWeb and TW

[Chris Aldrich]

Mat, sorry! Your confusion may be the result of a somewhat sideways 
reference to an old post by Mike Caulfield: 
https://hapgood.us/2015/10/17/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral/

Wikis are often looked at as gardens with posts that are regularly 
revisited and maintained while blogs are posted on in streams of posts that 
aren't as frequently revisited.

I hope anyone interested in the design and UI of wikis on the web will join 
us.

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Chris, that session sounds interesting - but what is that about "gardens 
> and streams"? Is it just some metaphor I don't understand or does the 
> session concern gardening in any way? Maybe it's your usename?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: IndieWeb and TW

[Chris Aldrich]

For those who may be interested in using TiddlyWiki in public or as a 
personal website, you might appreciate this upcoming (free) IndieWebCamp 
session I'll be hosting on April 25th at 10:00 AM Pacific: 
https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/17/gardens-and-streams-wikis-blogs-and-ui-a-pop-up-indiewebcamp-session/

Gardens and Streams: Wikis, Blogs, and UI—a pop up IndieWebCamp session 


> There has been some sporadic conversation about doing impromptu 
> IndieWebCamp sessions and thus far we’ve yet to organize one. Given our 
> physical distancing and the dearth of bigger IndieWebCamps, I thought I 
> would propose this single topic stand alone camp session to get something 
> rolling. I’d invite others to propose and schedule others in the future.  

April 25, 2020
> Sat 10:00 – 11:00am 
> <https://events.indieweb.org/local-time?date=20200425T1000=America%2FLos_Angeles>
>  (America/Los_Angeles)
> This is an online only event. We will provide a Zoom video conference link 
> 30 minutes before the session here and in the IndieWeb chat 
> <https://chat.indieweb.org/indieweb/>
> Session Topic
> We’ll be discussing and brainstorming ideas related to wikis 
> <https://indieweb.org/wiki> and the IndieWeb, user interfaces, 
> functionalities, examples of wikis and how they differ from blogs and other 
> social media interfaces, and everyones’ ideas surrounding these. Bring your 
> ideas and let’s discuss.
> Hashtag: #GardenAndStream
> <https://boffosocko.com/tag/gardenandstream/>Session facilitator: Chris 
> Aldrich
> This is just a single one hour IndieWebCamp-like session (though we have 
> the option to go over a bit since there isn’t a session following us) where 
> we’ll brainstorm and discuss a particular topic. Hopefully the weekend time 
> will be convenient for a wide range of people in Europe and North America 
> who have previously shown interest in the topic. Everyone is welcome to 
> attend.
> Resources
> To prepare for the session we’ll be using the following: 
> * Zoom: for the audio/video conference portion
> * Etherpad: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/GardenAndStream (for real time 
> chat, questions, and note taking during the session)
> See also: https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamps/Attending#Technology
> This event is covered by the IndieWeb Code of Conduct 
> <https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct>. By participating, you’re 
> acknowledging your acceptance of this code.
> Questions? Concerns? Feel free to ask in the IndieWeb chat: 
> https://chat.indieweb.org/indieweb/


On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 4:29:50 PM UTC-7, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> Hey Chris, welcome! Looks like you are off and running with TW. I look 
> forward to reading up on what you are doing re: Webmentions.
>
> I've added links to your notes on my TW5 Tribal Knowledge site: 
> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/tw5tribalknowledge.html
>
> Scott
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:38:00 PM UTC-7, Chris Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyWiki *is *a very solid looking platform for IndieWeb use 
>> (essentially using TW as a personal website). I am having some issues with 
>> the js;dr (cURL-ability) issue, but there are some methods for using it to 
>> create a static website.
>>
>> To help others out and provide some examples, I've started a stub page 
>> for TiddlyWiki on the IndieWeb wiki <https://indieweb.org/TiddlyWiki>, 
>> which uses MediaWiki. (If you have the rel="me" stuff set up in the second 
>> article about h-card linked below, you should be able to use your 
>> TiddlyWiki URL to log into the IndieWeb wiki and document yourself, 
>> changes, and ideas.) 
>>
>> I've been writing up some of my explorations using TiddlyWiki for 
>> IndieWeb on my primary website (with copies on my TiddlyWiki) for those who 
>> are interested in taking a look or experimenting for themselves.
>>
>>- Self-hosting TiddlyWiki with GitHub Pages 
>>
>> <https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/04/self-hosting-tiddlywiki-with-github-pages/>
>>- An h-card for my TiddlyWiki 
>><https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/12/an-h-card-for-my-tiddlywiki/>
>>- Webmention for TiddlyWiki to enable website to website 
>>notifications and communication 
>>
>> <https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/14/webmention-for-tiddlywiki-to-enable-website-to-website-notifications-and-communication/>
>>
>> For those interested in following my particular progress, you can find 
>> all of my related content on my site with this tag: 
>> https://boffosocko.com/tag/tiddlywiki/ or follow via RSS at 
>> https://boffosocko.com/tag/tiddlywiki/feed/.
>>
>> For those who are interested in d

[tw5] Re: Tab behavior and the tag picker

[Chris Aldrich]

Something similar vexes me from an accessibility perspective. When I do 
want to add a tag, I can start typing and it will give me the ability to 
choose a variety of tags. It would be nice if I could use the tab to select 
one of those available tags and then hit enter to enter and potentially 
then choose another tag or move on. Instead when I tab, it just keeps 
moving through the UI that appears underneath the tag section as Jack 
mentioned. To choose a tag I have to leave the keyboard and use the mouse 
instead.

Are there workarounds for this that I'm not seeing?

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-7, Jack Baty wrote:
>
> That does work as a an alternative way to dismiss the tag picker, thanks.
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:18:50 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jack, 
>>
>> I do have a workaround. 
>>
>>
>>- If you tab into the tag-editor
>>- tab 1 more time and the dropdown chevron is selected. 
>>- If you hit [space] bar now, the tag-popub will be closed. 
>>
>>
>> Not a real solution, but it should work with 2 more "clicks"
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: IndieWeb and TW

[Chris Aldrich]

TiddlyWiki *is *a very solid looking platform for IndieWeb use (essentially 
using TW as a personal website). I am having some issues with the js;dr 
(cURL-ability) issue, but there are some methods for using it to create a 
static website.

To help others out and provide some examples, I've started a stub page for 
TiddlyWiki on the IndieWeb wiki <https://indieweb.org/TiddlyWiki>, which 
uses MediaWiki. (If you have the rel="me" stuff set up in the second 
article about h-card linked below, you should be able to use your 
TiddlyWiki URL to log into the IndieWeb wiki and document yourself, 
changes, and ideas.) 

I've been writing up some of my explorations using TiddlyWiki for IndieWeb 
on my primary website (with copies on my TiddlyWiki) for those who are 
interested in taking a look or experimenting for themselves.

   - Self-hosting TiddlyWiki with GitHub Pages 
   
<https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/04/self-hosting-tiddlywiki-with-github-pages/>
   - An h-card for my TiddlyWiki 
   <https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/12/an-h-card-for-my-tiddlywiki/>
   - Webmention for TiddlyWiki to enable website to website notifications 
   and communication 
   
<https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/14/webmention-for-tiddlywiki-to-enable-website-to-website-notifications-and-communication/>

For those interested in following my particular progress, you can find all 
of my related content on my site with this tag: 
https://boffosocko.com/tag/tiddlywiki/ or follow via RSS at 
https://boffosocko.com/tag/tiddlywiki/feed/.

For those who are interested in delving in further, I might suggest looking 
at my [[IndieWeb/TiddlyWiki To Do List|
http://tw.boffosocko.com/#IndieWeb%20for%20TiddlyWiki%20to%20do%20list]] for 
things that could potentially be worth working on next:
* adding proper h-entry and h-feed microformats markup 
* adding microformats markup and/or customizing tiddlers as articles, 
notes, bookmarks, and other types of posts
* backfeed of comments from Twitter, Flickr, Instagram, GitHub, Mastodon 
using Brid.gy
* adding a full implementation of webmentions for core
** figuring out the js;dr problem for sending webmentions
* Adding set up to potentially allow posting to TiddlyWiki using Micropub 
(may run into js;dr problems?)
* Look into using TiddlyWiki as a Micropub server
* Adding header information for using TiddlyWiki with Microsub readers 
(this should be fairly easy)

There is a lot of open source code in a variety of languages that does a 
lot of this stuff already in addition to lots of examples, so do search the 
IndieWeb wiki or ask in the IndieWeb chat 
<https://chat.indieweb.org/indieweb/> for help or pointers so that you 
won't necessarily need to reinvent the wheel. 

Cheers,
Chris Aldrich
https://boffosocko.com
https://tw.boffosocko.com (TW5)

(Originally posted on https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/14/55770239/)


On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:08:10 AM UTC-8, Tristan wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I read about IndieWeb <https://indieweb.org/> some time ago and managed 
> to dive into it a little the last days. As far as I can tell TW would be a 
> perfect fit for this and since we are moving to federation it should be 
> quite easy to integrate - at least that is what I thought... I found 
> Hangout #52 when Jeremy mentioned IndieWeb - but unfortunately these 5 
> seconds is all there is about this matter.
>
> First of I thought adding the "rel-me" to the single page version was all 
> one had to do, but I think that was naive ;)
> My next idea was that maybe I could tweak the static page generation 
> template but that again would destroy dynamic syndication...
>
> So my question is (please bare with me if I missed some source) does 
> anybody has something running or some pre-release stuff in this direction?
> And if not (most probably) do you have any idea/advice/hint...?
>
> Cheers
> Tristan
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

[Chris Fischer]

Still a bug a year later

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 2:37:37 PM UTC-4, Kalcifer Kandari wrote:
>
> Any progress on this bug? I'm planning to have a lot of video content on 
> my site and the lack of controls will obviously be a big problem.
>
> To emphasise my last post, this happens with the *default theme* with *no 
> adjustments* to the custom CSS. The error is caused by the 'controls' 
> attribute of the  HTML tag, and shows up when the Tiddler is opened. 
> It happens with any story view as well.
>
> Example code within a normal Tiddler:
>
>   
> 
>   Your browser does not support the video tag.
> 
>
> I was tempted to use CSS to hide all error messages entirely, but even 
> though the message is not visible, HTML gets added over and over. This 
> could be considered a memory leak because there would not be any ability to 
> close them, eventually causing a slow browser for extended sessions with a 
> lot of video content.
>
> Some way to suppress that specific error would be nice.
>
> Kalcifer
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 8:26 AM Kalcifer Kandari  > wrote:
>
>> The error is caused by adding the 'controls' attribute to the  
>> HTML tag.
>>
>> A workaround is to just remove it because without the tag users can 
>> 'right click -> Show controls'. Of course if autoplay is not enabled it 
>> might be easy to miss that it is actually a video and not an image.
>>
>> Kalcifer
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:22 PM Kalcifer Kandari > > wrote:
>>
>>> I tried all sorts of different things, including using an  tag 
>>> instead of . The  did not generate any error message, but 
>>> height of the  did not adapt when the tiddler got thinner, whereas 
>>> the  tag does. I also tried creating a HTML file with a  tag 
>>> inside, then including that file in an  within the tiddler, that 
>>> also did not generate any errors, but that still had the fixed height issue.
>>>
>>> Here is the HTML for the video, which is inside the tiddler 
>>> http://kalcifer.net/#Nodius:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   Your browser does not support the video tag.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Here is the CSS for that tag from the custom CSS tiddler 
>>> http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS:
>>>
>>> video { 
>>> width: 100% !important; 
>>> max-width: 960px !important; 
>>> display: block; 
>>> margin-left: auto; 
>>> margin-right: auto; 
>>> }
>>>
>>> Go ahead and edit the tiddlers in your browser and see what changes.
>>>
>>> Kalcifer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM Jeremy Ruston >> > wrote:
>>>
 This error appears to be common, and the consensus is that it is 
 harmless. See this StackOverflow answer for instance:

 https://stackoverflow.com/a/50387233

 But, of course, it’s not harmless for TW5 since we have a global error 
 trap that reports it to the user; without that error trap it would just be 
 another red message visible in the developer console.

 I think we need more investigation to see whether the problem is 
 triggered by some specific CSS on your site, or if the problem occurs with 
 the standard TW5 theme. That may show a way to avoid it through rephrasing 
 your CSS.

 Otherwise, we’ll have to investigate ways of suppressing the error. 
 Perhaps by adding support for a safelist of errors that should be ignored.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

 On 22 Jan 2019, at 09:29, Kalcifer Kandari >>> > wrote:

 I don't use any plugins. You can see the configuration of the wiki 
 using the link I posted, nothing is hidden. I don't think it is caused by 
 CSS, but that's at http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS, the relevant 
 style is under 'video' near the top.

 On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 9:12:15 AM UTC, PMario wrote:
>
> hi,
> which plugins do you use?
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Multiple sort order in Tiddlywiki

[Chris Fischer]

Hi Tony,

I'm try to apply this solution in a fashion using a template.

Let's suppose I have two tags called "Topic1" and "Topic2". I have a bunch 
of tiddlers tagged with one or both of these tags. On the Topic1 tiddler, I 
want to make a list of all the tiddlers tagged Topic1 sorted by two fields.

I've been able to do most of this with a nice template

template/FilteredTagTemplate:
<$list filter="[tagsort[speaker]]">
 <$link to=<>><$view field=speaker/> - <$view 
field=title/>
 {{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
 

Then in the Topic1 tiddler:
{{||template/FilteredTagTemplate}}

Everything is great except that I want to sort by Speaker and Title.

I tried using your example in my template/FilteredTagTemplate, but it takes 
minutes to display as it is returning every tiddler in my file.

So I've been trying something like this:

template/FilteredTagTemplate:
\define tiddlerset-filter() [tag[]]
<$list filter=
"[subfiltereach[speaker]get[speaker]sort[]]" variable=
aspeaker>
   <$list filter="[subfilterspeakersort[]]">
 <$link to=<>><$view field=speaker/> - <$view field=
title/>
 {{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
   


Topic1:
{{||template/FilteredTagTemplate}}

No results displayed.

I've tried a number of different ways to get the subfilter to be just the 
tiddlers marked with the title of the current tiddler, all to no avail. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 8:34:57 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Sorry for the delay in a response.
>
> I used all tiddlers to include only the subset of what would be most 
> likely in a query of state and region tiddlers. This acts to limit the 
> default.
>
> I have no objection to your suggestion, however since this part of the 
> filter needs to be the same at all levels of the nested lists, perhaps 
> abstracting this to a subfilter makes more sense since you need only edit 
> in one place.
>
> Perhaps a better approach would be a subfilter*, (This code untested 
> against data)*
> \define tiddlerset-filter() [all[]]
> <$list fiter="[subfiltereach[state]get[state]sort[]]" 
> variable=state>
><$list 
> fiter="[subfilterstateeach[region]get[region]sort[]]"
>  
> variable=region>
><$list fiter="[subfilterstateregion
> sort[]]">
><>
>
>
> 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 5:44:20 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 8:42:44 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not mean to sound competitive, but all you need is .nested lists
>>>
>>> <$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]each[state]get[state]sort[]]" variable=state>
>>><$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]stateeach[region]get[region]sort[]]" 
>>> variable=region>
>>><$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]stateregionsort[]]">
>>><>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> gives a list sorted by state then region then tiddler title
>>> not tested against data
>>>
>>> note the groups state and region use "each" and the inner list only 
>>> lists those with the same state and region at a time
>>>
>>> to keep it tidy i use the same name as the field as the variable name 
>>> generated by the each lists.
>>>
>>> state means list all tiddlers with the state field = the value in 
>>> the `<> variable.
>>>
>>> you could wrap the whole thing or make it more levels deep however a new 
>>> outer filter may need every filter to be updated. See how every list filter 
>>> starts with all[tiddlers] a fresh, so if you want to operate on all 
>>> tiddlers this is fine but only with tag[a] would need to read 
>>> [all[tiddlers]tag[a] to each filter.
>>>
>>
>> What do you think if we omit the all[tiddlers]. I think the input of 
>> every filter is all[tiddlers] or all[tiddlers+shadows] so it should not 
>> affect the performance in this case! What do you think? 
>>
>>>   
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:47:14 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:


 There are different approaches. The easiest would be to make a button 
 that, when pressed, populates a fourth field that can then be sorted.

 Here's an approach that doesn't require two steps, but it does assume 
 that "@@" is reserved:

 \define sortus()
 <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]">
 <$list filter="[has[fa]]">
 <$list 
 filter="[addprefix[@@]addprefix{!!fc}addprefix{!!fb}addprefix{!!fa}addprefixaddsuffix]"/>
 
 
 \end

 <$wikify text=<> name="ready2sort">
 <$list filter="[enlistsort[]]" variable="sorted">
 <$list filter="[split[@@]rest[]]"/>
 
 






 On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:53:03 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Assume you have a bunch of tiddlers 
>
>- all tagged with data
>- all have three fields fa, fb, fc
>
>
> How one can produce a list of tiddlers where they are
>
>- sorted first by fa
>- then by field fb

[tw5] Re: TW-Utility Plugin 2.0.0 update: A better Admin (author) - Read only (reader) tools (Switch author - reader mode on the fly)

[Chris Fischer]

Maybe I've missed something obvious. How do I prevent others from switch to 
Author mode? I've implemented a crude version of this on my own with a 
password entry tiddler setting a data tiddler:

<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/_secret" $value=""/>


<$edit-text
tiddler="$:/_secret"
default=""
tag="input"
type="password"
placeholder="enter secret here..."/>

And then updating a bunch of core/UI items that I don't want displayed if 
the password isn't entered correctly:

Example: $:/core/ui/Buttons/delete
<$reveal type="match" state="$:/_secret" text="the_secret_password">
<$button message="tm-delete-tiddler" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Delete/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/Delete/Caption}} class=<
>>
<$list filter="[match[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/delete-button}}

<$list filter="[match[yes]]">
<$text 
text={{$:/language/Buttons/Delete/Caption}}/>




But this method has me editing lots of core tiddlers (which scares me and 
makes updates challenging).

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 11:36:40 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement:Utility plugin*
> *Date: Mar 16th, 2020*
> *Release: 2.0.0*
> *Status:  stable*
>
> The new update has a much better admin panel (afterward it is called 
> author panel). Try Ctrl+Alt+A shortcut.
> Simple author/reader mode switch using Ctrl+Alt+L. Give a try :-)
> The new Disable Drop Zone is used and in the reader mode, it does not 
> accept import by drag and drop
>
> Read the tutorial to get familiar with different features of TW-Utility
>
> Your feedback is highly welcome.
>
> History
>
> Revision 2.0.0
>
>- Date: [16th Mar 2020]
>- [NEW] Admin mode changed to Author mode
>- [NEW] Shoutcut added to simply and seemlesly switch author-reader 
>mode using ctrl+alt+L
>- [NEW] Disable page drop zone added to author/reader mode
>
> For all changes see ChangeLog 
> 
>
>
>
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Utility/
> Source: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Utility
>
> Your feedback is highly welcome.
> If you like it star it at GitHub (https://github.com/kookma/TW-Utility)
>
>
> -- Mohammad
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: Having trouble with simple audio macro

[Chris Fischer]

Thanks! I was confusing variables with macro parameters.

I ended up going with this:

Macro def:
\define AudioPost(file)

\end

Macro call:
<>

Much cleaner for my purposes than defining a variable.

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 3:22:02 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> Yeah, you've designed the macro to expect a "file" argument but you're not 
> providing one in the macro call. If you want it to use the "file" variable 
> without having to include it in the call, it should say:
>
> \define AudioPost()
> 
> \end
>
> or simply
>
> \define AudioPost() 
>
> That was at least one major problem. I didn't test the code so there may 
> be others but do test this and come back if problems.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Having trouble with simple audio macro

[Chris Fischer]

Ok, I actually solved it, but I hope someone can explain WHY.

I added parentheses:

\define AudioPost(file)

\end


On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 3:14:07 PM UTC-4, Chris Fischer wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've been experimenting with Audio and Video macros such as those 
> demonstrated here: http://av-macros.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> <http://av-macros.tiddlyspot.com/#Welcome>
>
> I have a simple tiddler with a link to a local audio file. I'm trying to 
> turn it into a macro so that if I want to change the format for an audio 
> tiddler, I can edit the template tiddler once.
>
> template/AudioPost:
> \define AudioPost(file)
> 
> \end
>
> My test tiddler:
> <$set name="file" value="Audio/Evans/Evans, Tony - Revive Us Again - 08 - 
> Are We Ready for Revival (Mt 3_1-2).mp3">
> <>
> 
>
> <$set name="file" 
> value="Audio/Evans/Evans%2C%20Tony%20-%20Revive%20Us%20Again%20-%2008%20-%20Are%20We%20Ready%20for%20Revival%20%28Mt%203_1-2%29.mp3">
> <>
> 
>
>  src="Audio/Evans/Evans%2C%20Tony%20-%20Revive%20Us%20Again%20-%2008%20-%20Are%20We%20Ready%20for%20Revival%20%28Mt%203_1-2%29.mp3"
>  
> />
> '
> Only my third version worksneither attempt to use the macro work.
>
> [image: Annotation 2020-03-16 151218.jpg]
>
> Any thoughts one why the audio tag in the macro isn't recognizing the file 
> path when it's identical to the path in the explicit src?
>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

[Chris Fischer]

TW is exactly what I needed to provide a completely self-contained Wiki on 
a USB thumb drive to people I deal with. It's great, and the help on this 
group has been invaluable and friendly and tolerant of this newbie.

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[tw5] Re: [tw] [TW5] How to protect single tiddlers from editing by password

[Chris Fischer]

Thankfully, I'm editing with Tiddly Desktop which has lovely backup 
built-in.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:48:15 PM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Given your question contained a link from Tobias for creating a template 
> for the $:/config/SaveWikiButton/Template 
> . 
>
> I am sure you also read the warning in read : *Caution:* Defining the 
> wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose data!
>
> I hope you had a working backup!
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: Absolute noob question

[Chris Fischer]

Thanks, I'm so new that I didn't grasp the idea of the TOC documentation 
being a tag.


On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 3:03:01 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Yes, macros often require some parameter as input. In the TOC examples 
>  and doc 
>  you'll note that 
> this particular macro requires a tag "that identifies the top level of 
> the tree". Otherwise the macro will not know what you want the ToC to 
> show.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] [TW5] How to protect single tiddlers from editing by password

[Chris Fischer]

Following these steps causes Tiddly Desktop to save my single file wiki as 
0kb

On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 2:24:20 AM UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> 3) Read States And Temporary Tiddlers @ tb5 
>  and 
> then add...
>
>  -[[$:/_secret]]
>
> ...to the filter expression to make sure it never gets saved. I would also 
> recommend modifying the filter to what you see on tb5 to not persist any 
> temporary tiddlers or states of sidebar tabs, etc.
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: So much power! Unfortunately, I don't understand it all ;-) Trying to transclude...

[Chris Normand]

Yeah, sorry about the information overload... but I had seen too many 
questions with very little context, and I didn't want to make that same 
mistake.

Thank you for the explanation.   I think my years of backend development 
may have lead me down the wrong path.  I think I will go with your idea.  
;-)

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[tw5] So much power! Unfortunately, I don't understand it all ;-) Trying to transclude...

[Chris Normand]

I have been using TW5 to document my campaign.  Nothing fancy, just tags 
and lists, etc.   Now, I want to document the GURPS 
<http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/details.html> spells that I have been 
creating.   Sorry for the long example, but I wanted to give as much 
context as possible.

Here is what the spells would look like in GURPS:

“Magic MIssile 1”
Innate Attack (crushing) 1d-1, 3.5
  Cosmic, no roll required, +100% 
  Increased 1/2D, 5x, +10%   1/2D 10 yds
  Reduced Range, x1/5, -20%   Max 20 yds
  Spell w/components, -50%
  [40%/5]

“Magic MIssile 2”
Innate Attack (crushing) 1d+1, 6.5
  Cosmic, no roll required, +100% 
  Increased 1/2D, 5x, +10%   1/2D 10 yds
  Reduced Range, x1/5, -20%   Max 20 yds
  Spell w/components, -50%
  [40%/10]

I had 3 design goals:
Hide the information on how the spell was "built", using the GURPS rules, 
unless the player specifically wanted to read it.  This would reduce the 
clutter. 
Be able to "find all spells that cost 5"
Be able to "find all variants of 'Magic Missile"

I figured the best way to model this would be using a data tiddlers and a 
template. Searching the group, I found a way to hide the "build" 
information so that it doesn't clutter up the interface.   The template 
tiddler is:

BasicSpellFormat
<$button class="tc-btn-visible" popup=<>>
//{{##spell}}// ''{{##damage}}'' {{##range}} [{{##cost}}] 

<$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="">
{{##build}}


And the data tiddlers are:

MagicMissileData1

{
"spell":"Magic Missile",
"damage":"1d-1 cr",
"range":"(1/2D: 10 yds, Max: 20 yds)",
"cost":5,"build":"Innate Attack (crushing) 1d+1, 6.5Cosmic, no 
roll required, +100%Increased 1/2D, 5x, +10%   1/2D 10 
ydsReduced Range, x1/5, -20%   Max 20 ydsSpell 
w/components, -50%[40%/10]"
}


and
MagicMissileData2

{
"spell":"Magic Missile",
"damage":"1d+1 cr",
"range":"(1/2D: 10 yds, Max: 20 yds)",
"cost":10,"build":"Innate Attack (crushing) 1d+1, 6.5Cosmic, no 
roll required, +100%Increased 1/2D, 5x, +10%   1/2D 10 
ydsReduced Range, x1/5, -20%   Max 20 ydsSpell 
w/components, -50%[40%/10]"
}


And the final tiddlers are

[[Magic Missile 1]]
{{MagicMissileData1||BasicSpellFormat}}

and

[[Magic Missile 2]]
{{MagicMissileData2||BasicSpellFormat}}

It looks like this (when expanded):


*My questions:*

1.  Is there a better way to encode newlines (and non-breaking spaces) into 
the "build" index data?   Having to type ";nbsp;" for each new 
line is a lot of redundant work.  I know I can't put newlines in a 
dictionary data tiddler, but it also seems that I cannot encode newlines in 
a JSON data tiddler either.  I could live with using an escape character 
sequence ("\n"), but I couldn't figure out how to parse the data in the 
template tiddler.  All I could do was output the data ({{##build}}), so I 
had to encode the raw HTML into the data itself (not ideal).  Can I use a 
"filter", or write some javascript?

2.  How would I list all tiddlers for "all spells that cost 5" or "all 
variants of 'Magic Missile'"?Have I made it too complex?   I went with 
this approach because if I just used plain tiddlers with a few custom 
fields (i.e. "cost" and "name"), I would have to copy and paste the button 
code into each tiddler, and I was trying to save myself all of that 
copy/pasting.

I have more questions, but I shall refrain for now.   Any help would, of 
course, be greatly appreciated.

Chris

P.S.   I am a 20+yr Java programmer, so I am not afraid of a little syntax 
;-)  I just don't know what it is.


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[tw5] [ TW5 ] add incremental field name?

[Chris]

So when adding new tiddlers if there is already a tiddler called "New 
Tiddler" the new one is "New Tiddler 1". 

Is there anyway to do that but with field names? via the button widget? and 
possibly tie in inputs that the new field can be populated? ( ex. 
"field-1": "", "field-2": "", etc )

I found this in old discussion ( [tw] Possible to create a button to add 
incremental field? ) from 5 yrs ago in which Jed Carty offered this code 

<$button>New Field
<$action-setfield $field={{!!count}} $value=<>/>
<$action-increment $field='count' $increment=1 $prefix='field-'/>


I found that when I took out $value and left blank instead of populating 
the count field with "field-#" it will create a new field called 'field-1' 
. . . well it was doing it last night not anymore. 
<$button>New Field
<$action-setfield $field={{!!count}} $value="" />
<$action-increment $field='count' $increment=1 $prefix='field-'/>


Working on project which I want to list participants ( ex. family members 
living in a residence during a given date like a Census record ) which 
could vary from one to like ten or more. I would like to not add a bunch of 
fields that may or may not be used, but have the ability to add as needed. 

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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

Thanks! That handled the problem with the personal record part.


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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

What I think I need to do break down in two action parts . . . one to 
generate the content and then another change the type afterwards.

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 10:22:28 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote:
>
> Worked, not worked. It does not work if I add this line to the button.
> type="application/x-tiddler-dictionary"
> It renders like a text.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 6:41:11 AM UTC-4, Watt wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
> Do I understand what you want correctly?
>
> Do you already have a lot of these genealogical records that you want to 
> convert from fields to data tiddlers?
>

Yes and no. Working on 3rd or 4th literation. Started with TW ( 2.6.0 ) 
because of the portability. 
 

> Do you want to keep the existing fields and extract their content into a 
> data tiddler in the same tiddler's text area, for display convenience? 
>
> or are you just starting to create these records and want to use a form 
> for data input into a data tiddler structure?
>

No, has to do with the having best possible ( in relation to personal 
knowledge base ) efficient access to information either for review or input.
 

> Is your goal a unique data tiddler for each individual containing names, 
> birth, baptism, burial?
>

that how is currently set up : tiddlers for personal data ( and sources ) 
and additional ones for marriages, parents, children, events, etc. 
 

> How many individuals are you thinking of?
>

Its genealogy there are *always* lots of records. I decided to roll it back 
a bit last year and focus and direct lineage families . . . still looking 
about 1k+ individuals; before that it more like 2k+. You always keep info 
you come across ( even if it doesn't directly apply ) as someone else might 
need it.
 

> I'm only just exploring data tiddlers myself but here are some 
> observations from a fellow beginner;
>
> Data tiddlers are sometimes easier for input and readability but the data 
> values can be more difficult to filter and manipulate for output.
>
> Fields are sometimes difficult for readability but are much easier for 
> manipulating and filtering output.
>
> Data tiddlers can greatly reduce the number of tiddlers needed, they are 
> readable and are easy to export but those benefits depend on how many 
> records you need to create and how you structure them. 
>
> If you make a data tiddler for each individual then you'll still create 
> the same number of tiddlers as the fields method and might hit problems if 
> there are identical names.
>
> There are some useful tips on data tiddlers here;
>
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#datatiddler
>
> Data tiddlers may not exist forever in their current form, see the 
> discussion here;
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/GqqPZnp6VMI
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

True, but I think data tiddlers might work better in this case due to 
volume; at least enough to go down that rabbit hole. It is not only the 
information on person info ( birth, death, burial ) but other things too. 
For instance I have my maternal grandfather's discharge papers; there is 
wealth of data there. Then there is birth certificates, marriage, and 
death; that is a lot of potential data.


On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 6:05:53 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark
>
> I favor fields as well however if we iterate datatidder keys/indexes they 
> can be used like any title list.
>
> For fun I just built a view template for data tiddlers that lets you edit 
> all values in that data tiddler. It does not loose focus and you can have 
> multiline text in multiple records in one tiddler, and in the view template 
> you can lay them out as a form. These automatically become json format.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

The tiddler is genealogical one, each generated file would include the 
subject name ( ex. $:/?data/** SURNAME **/** GIVEN **/** MIDDLE ** ). "$:/" 
is self explanatory, "?" is for sorting purposes, it sorts on top; does not 
get lost in the regular plugin file names and provides look up at a glance 
( which is also provided by the "data" ). I will another tiddler to provide 
the visuals.

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:32:02 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> You would need one data tiddler per form unless the keys are qualified 
> with a unique name such as the current tiddler.
>
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

Worked, not worked. It does not work if I add this line to the button.
type="application/x-tiddler-dictionary"
It renders like a text.



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[tw5] Re: Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

the temp file is just standard tiddler at the moment used to store the 
results of a form in fields. This raises an additional question . . . can 
you store form results in a data type tiddler?

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:05:42 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> This is not a full answer but have you tried datatiddler##entryname
>
> Rather than temptiddler!!entryname
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Can a <$button> be used to create a data tiddler?

[Chris]

Tried searching the forum to no avail.

Right now I have a button that populates fields. The fields needs are many 
and makes it clunky. Though I knew of data tiddlers it is only recently I 
realized there could be some potential usefulness. Here is section of my 
current button action.

name.middle={{$:/temp/person!!name.middle}} 
name.family={{$:/temp/person!!name.family}}
name.handle={{$:/temp/person!!name.handle}} 

date.birth={{$:/temp/person!!date.birth}} 
place.birth={{$:/temp/person!!place.birth}} 
date.baptism={{$:/temp/person!!date.baptism}} 
place.baptism={{$:/temp/person!!place.baptism}} 

date.death={{$:/temp/person!!date.death}} 
place.death={{$:/temp/person!!place.death}} 
date.burial={{$:/temp/person!!date.burial}} 
place.burial={{$:/temp/person!!place.burial}} 
cause.death={{$:/temp/person!!cause.death}} 

Setting the type to dictionary is not an issue. But is there a way to 
generate the output to populate data information in the text field? For 
instance "name.middle={{$:/temp/person!!name.middle}}" would populate in 
the text field as name.middle: ( value of ){{$:/temp/person!!name.middle}}?

Index numbers would not work here not only do I need "date.birth" to know 
what I am looking at but also ( if export it ) for someone to know what 
they are looking at. 

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[tw5] [TW5] Number Formatting

[Chris]

I have been doing a search in this group's discussions but have lucked out.

I was looking for way to format output of numbers that would add for 
instance commas to long numbers ( ex. 100 to 1,000,000 ). Just 
something K.I.S.S. I know there are javascripts that fit the bill nicely 
but my scripting knowledge is limited to say the least. 

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[tw5] Re: Using data dictionary for variable lookup

[Chris Brouwer]

Thanks! That's the trick!

I now use this second version. I will use this info to learn form it.

I had not thought of the possibility to use the filter-syntax to set the 
value. 

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[tw5] Using data dictionary for variable lookup

[Chris Brouwer]

Hello all,

I have the following situation, but can't acheive my goal. What am I doing 
wrong here ?

I hav a Datatiddler containing country codes (abbreviations) as indices and 
a sort code as values, like this:

CZ:01
SK:02
HU:03
RO:04
SRB:05

I have a tiddler with a Select widget, where I let the user choose a 
country code.
The resulting code is correctly placed in the "country" field. So far so 
good.

Here's the catch:
I also would like to place the sort code in a seperate field of the same 
tiddler. But accessing the DataTiddler seems to work only when I use a 
hardcoded countrycode, like {{landcodes##RO}}.

But what I would like is: {{landcodes##<>}}, or whatever way to get 
to the correct value. I have tried constructs with "<<", "$(", '"""$' but 
nothing seems to do the trick.

Any suggestions ?

Here is the contents of my test-tiddler:
-
\define update-sort()
<$vars lnd={{!!land}} >
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="sort" 
$value={{landcodes##<>}} />

\end

\define getLand()
<$select tiddler=<> field="land" actions=<> >
  <$list filter='[[landcodes]indexes[]sort[title]]' listItem=selectedList >
  >><$view field='title'>
  

\end

<>
-

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[tw5] Re: List macro says: No result, where Advanced Search finds tiddlers

[Chris Brouwer]

Thanks very much, Mark!

I have tried something like this, but probably still made a mistake 
somewhere.

This is working as expected.

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[tw5] Re: List macro says: No result, where Advanced Search finds tiddlers

[Chris Brouwer]

Hello Mark,

I already tried that construct, with the same result.

I add the tiddler here, and a screenshot of the output.

Still, with my version of the code, this is the filter it shows: **
[tag[Overnachting]trip[Balkan 2019]sort[title]]** (Without the '**', of 
course ;-) )
So that looks like it does work (construct the correct filter, I mean). 
When I feed that to Advanced Search,, it gives me the expected reults. The 
<$list> does not.

Op vrijdag 25 januari 2019 16:18:03 UTC+1 schreef Mark S.:
>
> It would take a half hour to set up data to give an exact fix, but what 
> stands out immediately is that you are inserting wikitext into wiki text, 
> which doesn't work:
>
> Here
>
> <>
>
> Hier
>
> <$list filter=< prefix:"">> emptyMessage="Niets gevonden">
>
> <>
>
> I think what you want is to make changes like:
>
> <>
> ...
> <$list filter=< prefix:"">> emptyMessage="Niets gevonden">
>
> And invoke the macro with a macro call:
>
> <$macrocall $name=list-body tag="Overnachting" trip={{$:/vak/curTrip}} />
>
> If you share a page as well, it wold be easier to tell if the syntax was 
> right, but I think that's what you need.
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:29:06 AM UTC-8, Chris Brouwer wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ton,
>>
>> allthough this is enlightening for me, the situation is a bit more 
>> complex.
>>
>> I am trying to adapt a little bit of Mario Pietsch's excellent work, just 
>> to include 1 extra filtering parameter.
>>
>> Here is (most of) the code I changed:
>>
>> \define createTripFilter(tag:"" trip:"" prefix:"")
>> [tag[$tag$]trip[$trip$]sort[title]]
>> \end
>>
>> \define list-body(tag:"" trip:"" prefix:"")
>> --
>> """$tag$"""
>> """$trip$"""
>> <>
>> --
>> 
>> Naam
>> Keuze
>> Prijs
>> Periode
>>
>> <$list filter=<> prefix:"">> emptyMessage="Niets gevonden">
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> I am using Tiddlywiki 5.1.19.
>>
>> The tiddlers I am looking for contain the tag "Overnachting", and the 
>> name of the trip in the field "trip".
>>
>>
>>
>> Op vrijdag 25 januari 2019 15:13:05 UTC+1 schreef Ton Gerner:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> May be this 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/M5bA6_NKacM/SC-b60hTBQAJ> 
>>> helps.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ton
>>>
>>>
>>>

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$__vak_overnachting-list-template.tid
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[tw5] Re: List macro says: No result, where Advanced Search finds tiddlers

[Chris Brouwer]

Hello Ton,

allthough this is enlightening for me, the situation is a bit more complex.

I am trying to adapt a little bit of Mario Pietsch's excellent work, just 
to include 1 extra filtering parameter.

Here is (most of) the code I changed:

\define createTripFilter(tag:"" trip:"" prefix:"")
[tag[$tag$]trip[$trip$]sort[title]]
\end

\define list-body(tag:"" trip:"" prefix:"")
--
"""$tag$"""
"""$trip$"""
<>
--

Naam
Keuze
Prijs
Periode

<$list filter=<> emptyMessage="Niets gevonden">
<>
<>
<>
<>


\end

<>


I am using Tiddlywiki 5.1.19.

The tiddlers I am looking for contain the tag "Overnachting", and the name 
of the trip in the field "trip".



Op vrijdag 25 januari 2019 15:13:05 UTC+1 schreef Ton Gerner:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> May be this 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/M5bA6_NKacM/SC-b60hTBQAJ> 
> helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>
>

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[tw5] List macro says: No result, where Advanced Search finds tiddlers

[Chris Brouwer]

Hello all,

I am trying to produce a list of tiddlers, filtered based on 1 tag and the 
contents of 1 field, inside a macro.

For debugging purposes I output the separate parts, as well as the 
constructed filter.

Everything looks as I expect it. But the macro still comes up with an empty 
list.

So ofcourse I tried the exact same filter in Advanced Search (Copy/Paste 
from the debugging output), and this time I do get the results I want, not 
an empty list.

Why is TiddlyWIki list widget giving me a different result ?

I have tested with a combination of 2 tags, with and without spaces, but 
the results are consistent.

Any thoughts ?

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

[Chris]

Nice suggestions, but for sake of this question let's say there limitations and 
hta sidesteps those.

Actually after some further research ( i.e. found right search keyword ), the 
issue is with IE ( hta is just application extension ). Under the StackOverflow 
question "method 'assign' not supported in IE, what to do" ( typing from cell, 
so too hard to type link ) . . . well title says it all. The post purposes 
possible workarounds, but how to create a patch to utilize that knowledge is 
way outside my skill set.

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[tw5] TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

[Chris]

hta is best option where I have been using it. It allows saving without a lot 
of hassle.

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[tw5] TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

[Chris]

I keep my files in *.hta, and ever since 5.1.15 I have not been able import ( 
both button & drag-n-drop ) without the red screen error ( object assign ).

My two questions . . . 

Is the import function disabled in these versions ( either in general or 
particular to hta )?

If it is just hta any possible workarounds/solutions?

I have not been able to locate a previous question related to this.

Thanks.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Upgrading a Server-Based TW5 Wiki

[Chris Jobling]

I don’t think it’s quite the same. At the root, I think I’m lacking basic 
knowledge of how to go from the file-based TiddlyWiki served by the server to 
the single file version and back.

I know that tiddlywiki –rendertiddlers can be used to create a single file 
tiddlywiki.

I can use this to create a 5.1.15 snapshop and can upgrade that, using the 
upgrade tool, to 5.1.17. I then have an new single file TiddlyWiki. How do I 
convert that into the file-based one?

There doesn’t seem to be a render function that does this.

Chris

From: "tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com"  on behalf of 
Rob Hoelz 
Reply-To: "tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Friday, 10 August 2018 at 16:18
To: TiddlyWiki 
Subject: [tw5] Re: Upgrading a Server-Based TW5 Wiki

Hi Chris,

I had a similar problem when I first updated my Node.js installation, but it 
was related to the fact that I had imported my tiddlers from an HTML 
installation, which sounds like it's not the case for you.  Either way, my 
issue was that I had saved all of the system tiddlers to my tiddlers/ directory 
(eg. $:/core and others) when I imported, and what's in tiddlers/ overrides 
what the NPM package provides.  Once I removed the offending tiddlers from my 
tiddlers/ directory, the upgrade worked as intended.  Does it sound like that 
could be your issue?

-Rob

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 7:19:10 AM UTC-5, cpjobling wrote:
I'm sure that this must be an FAQ but I couldn't find an answer!

When I first created my journal wiki, I used the tiddlywiki node.js tool 
version 5.1.15.

I have since upgraded using 'npm update' and I am now running the 5.1.17 
version of the server.

However, In the wiki control panel, for my server-based wiki, it reports 
version 5.1.15 which I assume means that the code is still from the original 
version.

I used the tiddlywiki command tool to export my wiki as a single file wiki 
'index.html' and used the update tool to upgrade to 5.1.17. No problems!

I saved the result as upgrade.html.

My question is, how do I export the tiddlers from upgrade.html back into my 
server-based wiki?

Chris
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

[Chris Lynch]

Thank you for sharing your exploration, I found it very useful. I can now 
get what I was after by using this line from one of your examples in my 
tiddler:
$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Combined}}">
and if I end every tiddler used to create the tiddler Combined, with a hard 
linebreak [as I read about at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText]
"""
If I understand your reference to linking to tiddlers correctly, Tobias has 
this example that I plan on using in the future.

<$link to="plantuml" tooltip="open docs">
[[plantuml width=64 class=pretty [
Employee -up-|> User
Client -up-|> User
Supervisor -up-|> User
Employee --> (Login)
Supervisor --> (Login)
Client ..> (Login) : NO!!!!
Supervisor --> (Create / Delete User): I am god
]]]



Cheers - Chris

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

[Chris Lynch]

Hi Tony,

That is great advice and I also think you might have turn on the light bulb.

I had figured out how to generate <> used in your 
hint, but I didn't appreciate I could call the plantuml macro with the 
basic macro call syntax. Makes sense now, but I didn't *really* understand 
that principle or grasp its flexibility.

I'll give it another go tonight. I'm replying now mostly to provide the 
plantuml plugin links. I'm becoming a fan of plantuml, which is surprising 
to me since I am a professional visual programmer 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language>. 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language]

Tobias Beer's TW5 plugin <https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml>
 [https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml] and anibalch's TWc 
plugin <https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml>. 
[https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml]

Cheers and Thanks!

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:30:55 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I will have a look at this later in detail but I recommend you simplify 
> the problem when you cant find the answer.
>
> Try your various alternatives first out side of your  <$plantuml widget.
> Perhaps use set or wikify to prepare the value you want to place insided 
> the widget but see the result first
> When calling the widget try using the macrocall widget as it is more 
> robust at giving it variables
>
> <$macrocall $name=plantuml text=<> />
>
> Please remind me where to find plantuml
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 4:33:37 PM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>>
>> I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking understanding 
>> of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate your patience.
>>
>> I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
>> <$plantuml
>> source="
>> Class A
>> Class B
>> "
>> />
>> by first creating three tiddlers, A:
>> Class A
>> B:
>> Class B
>> and C:
>> {{A}}{{B}}
>> and I then call the widget by using:
>> <$plantuml
>> source=
>> {{C}}
>> />
>> but I get the string "{{A}}{{B}}" rather than what I hoped for "Class A 
>> Class B".
>>
>> As I said, I'm sensing this is a rookie error but if someone can point me 
>> in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Once again, thanks for your time and help.
>>
>> Cheers - Chris
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

[Chris Lynch]

I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking understanding 
of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate your patience.

I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
<$plantuml
source="
Class A
Class B
"
/>
by first creating three tiddlers, A:
Class A
B:
Class B
and C:
{{A}}{{B}}
and I then call the widget by using:
<$plantuml
source=
{{C}}
/>
but I get the string "{{A}}{{B}}" rather than what I hoped for "Class A 
Class B".

As I said, I'm sensing this is a rookie error but if someone can point me 
in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

Once again, thanks for your time and help.

Cheers - Chris

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 11:18:15 PM UTC-7, Chris Lynch wrote:
>
> I've been using the plantuml plugins for both TWc and TW5 recently and 
> love it. Picture tiddlers are now replacing boring old text in my 
> tiddlywiki ;-]
>
> Still learning plantuml, but I saw it has a include feature, which helps 
> break large plantuml code blocks into smaller ones by calling included 
> files. I'm assuming include won't work on TW5.
>
> However, it got me thinking that maybe I could transclude some plantuml 
> tiddlers to obtain the same sort of result as the include function.
>
> I took a simple plantuml tiddler with:
>
> [[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
> @startuml
> class Class
> @enduml
> ]]]
>
> and I created a tiddler Class with just:
>
> class Class
>
> and then tried
>
> [[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
> @startuml
> {{Class}}
> @enduml
> ]]]
>
> but got:
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-23hM7RsmLvs/W16m2YRBxsI/Bg0/OG8xskYHergFtUBRBZcPEucEI3pntvqtgCLcBGAs/s1600/New%2BBitmap%2BImage.png>
>
>
> which wasn't what I wanted and the error told me I was literally getting 
> {{Class}}, not its trancluded value.
>
>
> After reading tiddlywiki.com for awhile (and with head spinning a bit, I 
> must admit) I stumbled upon trying:
>
>
> <$plantuml
> source={{Class}}
> />
>
>
> which worked and gave me encouragement. Then I tried to get fancier so I 
> created a couple more tiddlers, PlantUmlSetup:
>
>
> skinparam defaultTextAlignment center
> skinparam class {
> BackgroundColor Azure
> ArrowColor Blue
> BorderColor Blue
> }
> skinparam stereotypeCBackgroundColor LightBlue
>
>
> and AllCode tiddler:
>
>
> {{PlantUmlSetup}}
> {{Class}}
>
>
> and then tried:
>
>
> <$plantuml
> source={{AllCode}}
> />
>
>
> which literally gave me:
>
>
> {{PlantUmlSetup}}
> {{Class}}
>
>
> Deja vu all over again. I'm hopeful a more experienced coder can get me 
> going in the correct direction once again.
>
>
> Thanks for your time and any help!
>
> Chris
>

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[tw5] [TW5] PlantUML include

[Chris Lynch]

I've been using the plantuml plugins for both TWc and TW5 recently and love 
it. Picture tiddlers are now replacing boring old text in my tiddlywiki ;-]

Still learning plantuml, but I saw it has a include feature, which helps 
break large plantuml code blocks into smaller ones by calling included 
files. I'm assuming include won't work on TW5.

However, it got me thinking that maybe I could transclude some plantuml 
tiddlers to obtain the same sort of result as the include function.

I took a simple plantuml tiddler with:

[[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
@startuml
class Class
@enduml
]]]

and I created a tiddler Class with just:

class Class

and then tried

[[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
@startuml
{{Class}}
@enduml
]]]

but got:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-23hM7RsmLvs/W16m2YRBxsI/Bg0/OG8xskYHergFtUBRBZcPEucEI3pntvqtgCLcBGAs/s1600/New%2BBitmap%2BImage.png>


which wasn't what I wanted and the error told me I was literally getting 
{{Class}}, not its trancluded value.


After reading tiddlywiki.com for awhile (and with head spinning a bit, I 
must admit) I stumbled upon trying:


<$plantuml
source={{Class}}
/>


which worked and gave me encouragement. Then I tried to get fancier so I 
created a couple more tiddlers, PlantUmlSetup:


skinparam defaultTextAlignment center
skinparam class {
BackgroundColor Azure
ArrowColor Blue
BorderColor Blue
}
skinparam stereotypeCBackgroundColor LightBlue


and AllCode tiddler:


{{PlantUmlSetup}}
{{Class}}


and then tried:


<$plantuml
source={{AllCode}}
/>


which literally gave me:


{{PlantUmlSetup}}
{{Class}}


Deja vu all over again. I'm hopeful a more experienced coder can get me 
going in the correct direction once again.


Thanks for your time and any help!

Chris

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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Chris Nicoll]

Thank you! I had the problem on Antergos Linux and it was the downloads 
pref.

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[tw] [TW5] MetaTabs and system tiddlers

[Chris]

I like the simple setup of MetaTabs. I also like to use system tiddlers for 
organizing purposes. I would like to use them together. 

Would the creator (or anybody) have any idea what would need to be modified 
to allow MetaTabs to recognize system tiddlers?

Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saving to Tiddlyspot Issues

[Chris Hodge]

Just to close the loop on my problem, it no longer happens after I 
restarted my Chromebook! I can save without any issues now on all my TW's 
on tiddlyspot.

On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 8:03:00 AM UTC-4, Chris Hodge wrote:
>
> Yes, please report if you find anything. I am still unable to save to 
> tiddlyspot on one hardware. I still have one TW that *used *to save on my 
> Chromebook but no longer does. It saves just fine in any browser on other 
> machines.
>
>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saving to Tiddlyspot Issues

[Chris Hodge]

Yes, please report if you find anything. I am still unable to save to 
tiddlyspot on one hardware. I still have one TW that *used *to save on my 
Chromebook but no longer does. It saves just fine in any browser on other 
machines.

On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 5:14:28 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> Ton, Chris, Lost Admin, Alfonso - thank you for replies. Much appreciated.
>
> I guess the conclusion is that it is something limited to my local system. 
> Considering it is both in FF and Chrome, I guess it must be some Windows 
> setting I've done. Must be solved so will report when I eventually find it.
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] How to make a quiz on TiddlyWiki

[Chris German]

Someone made this guide  recently, which 
seems thorough but it is in french. Is there an english equivalent? I have 
looked in the index already. Also, is it possible to make open questions 
that are self-marking?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saving to Tiddlyspot Issues

[Chris Hodge]

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the browser cache or cookies? 
I posted a message here a couple of days ago about not being able to save 
to tiddlyspot on a Chromebook, but I think the C'book is a red herring and 
my problem is maybe the same as you are seeing. I had two TW's on 
tiddlyspot, TW1 could save, and TW2 could not. I messed around with stuff, 
including clearing the browser cache and cookies, and now neither TW will 
save on the C'book. However, on my work laptop I can still save both of 
these to tiddlyspot, on Chrome browser.

On the Chromebook, I can download the tw to my local storage, edit, then 
upload back to tiddlyspot and the changes are saved. But when I access the 
tw from tiddlyspot, save still does not work.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saving to Tiddlyspot Issues

[Chris Hodge]

I am seeing a similar issue on my Chromebook. I have one TW that I have not 
been able to save at all (tho I can save same on another machine). Plus, I 
had a different TW5 on tiddlyspot which I used to be able to save to web 
from my Chromebook, but after deleting and then re-adding my password, that 
one doesnt work anymore. This is causing me a lot of frustration!


On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:10:20 PM UTC-4, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> Is anybody else facing the following issue?
>
> Saving a Tiddlyspot document directly after editing it online works fine.
>
> Today I wanted to upgrade them to TW 5.1.14 (thanks Jeremy and all 
> contributors!).
>
> I deleted the Tiddlyspot password and saved the document in my local 
> drive. Then upgraded the document from 5.1.13 to 5.1.14. So far so good.
>
> Afterwards I put the password back to upload the upgraded document to 
> Tiddlyspot. It did not work on Firefox (v53, TiddlyFox 2.0.1) nor on 
> Chrome. Tried on TiddlyDesktop 0.0.8 it it worked!
>
> Comments?
>
> Alfonso Arciniega
>

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[tw] Re: Can't save to Tiddlyspot when editing on Chromebook

[Chris Hodge]

Two more data points: I have another tw on tiddlyspot, and have no problems 
saving from the chromebook with that one. That one is version 5.1.11
Second, I can save the first tw when using Chrome on an Android tablet.

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[tw] Can't save to Tiddlyspot when editing on Chromebook

[Chris Hodge]

Hi Guys,
This is weird-- I have a tw on tiddlyspot, and I can edit and save on my 
laptop (Chrome and Firefox). However, on my Chromebook, using Chrome (of 
course) it is not possible to save. I click Save and I get the "Starting to 
save..." message but it never confirms that save was done. I checked and 
indeed my edits were not saved.

I tried typing and retyping my password into the ControlPanel Saving tab, 
and even typed it in another application to make sure my keyboard is OK. 
Furthermore, I can log onto the tiddlyspot control panel for my tw while 
using my Chromebook (it has same password)! The tiddlyspot FAQ says there 
might be issues with passwords using special characters, but my password is 
just letters and numbers. Also, I think that would be a general problem and 
not machine specific?

Are there any known issues with saving to remote server from Chromebooks?

I am using version 5.1.7

thanks.

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[tw] Re: TW5 Saving Problems and Solutions

[Chris]

The problem is private browsing enabled, respectively browser history 
disabled. 
If browser history enabled, the icon appears, everything is fine again!!

Chris 

Am Dienstag, 18. April 2017 17:20:08 UTC+2 schrieb Chris:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
> TW5 has become a very important part of my life. Its a technical 
> knowledgebase, a tool to manage and organize things. Thank you for this 
> great tool!
>
> I also cannot save my TW5 and I did no manage to get it run again and it 
> became a big problem in the meantime. So how to proceed? Is there somebody 
> to fix this problem or at least the possibility to get some helpful support?
>
> I tested with firefox 32 bit / 64 bit, i deleted and reinstalled tiddly 
> fox, i deinstalled some add-ons, nothing helped up to now!
>
> Support is welcome!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>  
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Chris]

Exactly! That is the problem. Thank you Jeremy, TiddlyWiki works as before, 
the icon appears, everything ok for the moment!!

Tiddly Wiki is such a great piece of software, wow!!

Chris


Am Dienstag, 18. April 2017 21:38:11 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Thanks to everyone for your help.
>
> It seems that the primary problem with 2.0.1 is that it is not configured 
> for use during “Private Browsing” or when “Never Remember History” is 
> enabled.
>
> I’ve created a new 2.0.2-prerelease build that is configured for private 
> browsing.
>
> Please give it a try and report back before I submit it to Mozilla. 
> Unfortunately, using unsigned extensions is difficult these days. The 
> easiest way is to use the Developer edition of Firefox, which will accept 
> unsigned extensions:
>
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/developer/
>
> The XPI is available here:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlywiki.xpi
>
> As usual, questions and feedback are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 18 Apr 2017, at 16:51, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
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>
> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
> the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox) doesn't seem to 
> work. I've turned off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and 
> might like to check up on the official status from time to time.
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[tw] TW5 Saving Problems and Solutions

[Chris]

Hi Jeremy,
TW5 has become a very important part of my life. Its a technical 
knowledgebase, a tool to manage and organize things. Thank you for this 
great tool!

I also cannot save my TW5 and I did no manage to get it run again and it 
became a big problem in the meantime. So how to proceed? Is there somebody 
to fix this problem or at least the possibility to get some helpful support?

I tested with firefox 32 bit / 64 bit, i deleted and reinstalled tiddly 
fox, i deinstalled some add-ons, nothing helped up to now!

Support is welcome!

Chris



 

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[tw] Re: [BETA] - TiddlySpace Backup Scripts

[Chris Dent]

It's really a shame how this shutdown has been handled. I can see from the 
frontpage and tapas that people are still creating new content and new 
accounts on tiddlyspace. I suspect this is because the frontpage was never 
updated to announce the shutdown. It's only once you've created an account 
that you ever hear about the shutdown.

Thank you mario for making sure people have a good way to save their stuff.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is MagicTabs still in active development??

[Chris]

Is this still being developed? I discovered your BottomTabs, I thought it 
would be a fine use for a Genealogy notebook I was updating from TWC. I was 
able to, with my very limited skills, to expand the person input screen; 
adding extra fields I needed for my records. 

I then discovered MagicTabs, I liked the potential flexibility. Though 
BottomTabs still has one advantage, it recognizes the "$:/" titles. My 
files have several elements, such things as children, spouses, parents, 
occupations, etc. In a nutshell there is a potential for a lot of clutter. 
With BottomTabs I can title those elements with "$:/" the rest of the title 
being more organizational and using a caption field to keep the visual link 
readable which helps with on spot lookups.

( on a side-note, I do have dedicated genealogy program. Yet TiddlyWiki 
with TiddlySnip/TiddlyClip I find it a lot easier to do research. Also the 
portability factor is a good thing too. )

On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 4:54:54 AM UTC-4, Alberto Molina wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience about the BottomTabs / MagicTabs plugin.
>
> I'm actively trying to finish my PhD thesis. It's the reason why I have 
> not been involved in TW for several months. I definitely plan to resume and 
> finish the plugins, but I've no time now.
>
> If anyone wants to reuse that work and adapt it, there's absolutely no 
> problem. It's the way I think TW community should work.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alberto
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[tw] Re: [BETA] - TiddlySpace Backup Scripts

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On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 12:17:51 AM UTC, PMario wrote:
>
> On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:41:10 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> Great stuff. Any chance / idea for also grabbing binary files once put up 
>> via:
>>
>> <>
>>
>
> I didn't think about them yet. 
>
> Downloading the stuff should be possible, but how can we "automagically" 
> find them?
> Is there anything we can use to identify them. 
>
>  
 Each tidlder has an attribute named 'type' that, if it has a value is the 
type of tiddler that it is, for example 'image/jpeg'. The fat json that 
your script downloads can be inspected for that. The 'text' attribute 
contains the base64 encoded data that represents the binary. That can be 
decoded. Thus is it possible to go through a fat json tiddlers collection 
and extract all the images to separate file.

I've made a quick python (works for both 2 and 3) script that will do this 
for images: https://gist.github.com/cdent/1254a9c98d8ba316e6c0223f9dd03925

If you run it in the directory where the fat json files are as `python 
extractbin.py *.json` all the image tiddlers will be dumped into a 
directory named 'binaries'.

I hope this is enough to keep people some ideas on how to process the data. 
There are also ways to search tiddlyspace for tiddlers of particular types, 
but since the fat json already includes the data locally processing that 
seems easier.

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[tw] Re: [BETA] - TiddlySpace Backup Scripts

[Chris Dent]

@cdent is there a better search option?
>
>
It's possible to filter the list of recipes with something like:


http://tiddlyspace.com/recipes?select=name:%3Esunyit=name:%3Csunyiu 

Basically that's saying get me all the recipes with names between sunyit 
and sunyiu. When someone is logged in it will also return those private 
recipes which the current user is able to see.

There are other filtering incantations that can be done on the recipes list 
as well. There's more information on filters in 
http://tweb-filters.tiddlyspace.com/

Note that I have moving information like that to tank on my do-really-soon 
to do list, so that it doesn't get completely lost.

Your script makes a lot of sense Mario. Not overly complicated but does the 
right stuff. Getting both the fat JSON and the HTML of the tiddlywiki is a 
great way to do it. One thing you might consider is instead of pulling the 
bag tiddlers, get the recipe tiddlers. For people with multiple spaces this 
would result in a great deal of duplicated data but might make 
reconstructing things later a bit easier. Not sure if that's a good idea or 
not, but I though it was worth mentioning.

Thank you for cc'ing me on this and if other things come up where you think 
I can help please cc me again. I don't actively read these or the other 
tiddly groups anymore (due to lack of time, not lack of interest) so I 
don't become aware of stuff unless people let me know directly.

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[tw] Site Title

[chris rheinherren]

The site title shows up on the side bar. How do you get it to show up above 
the Tiddlers?


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[tw] Re: journal

[chris rheinherren]

And that works.

Thanks!

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:38:40 PM UTC-5, Danielo Rodríguez 
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> Try
>
> [tag[Journal]sort[created]]
>
> Or in reverse order 
>
> [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
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[tw] Re: journal

[chris rheinherren]

I have the [tag[Journal]] already which does show journal entries for the 
home page but it seems to randomize them. I would like the newest on top 
with the oldest on the bottom.



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> How does one make the home page show Journal entries by the date they were 
> created?
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[tw] journal

[chris rheinherren]

How does one make the home page show Journal entries by the date they were 
created?

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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Chris Jordan]

>
> The old version used to be a little tricky -- but the new version seems to 
> be straightforward to use.
>

 Thanks. Are official instructions for use to be found anywhere? 

Once installed into Chrome -- open the app. and load your wiki (note its a 
> Chrome App, not an extension.)
>

Thanks for the warning.

C 

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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Chris Jordan]

>
> I use the TiddlyChrome extension 
>  -- 
> works great.
>

Thanks. Are instructions for use to be found anywhere? The readme 
file https://github.com/Arlen22/tiddly-chrome-app/blob/master/README.md has 
just instructions for installation and development. I've 
read https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/nKxU_ixVKTI and 
would rather avoid the problems people report there.

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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

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>
> If you don't mind a thirdparty addon based  solution you may look into 
the Downloads
> Router
> <
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/downloads-router/fgkboeogiiklpklnjgdiaghaiehcknjo
>
> It allows setting personalized folders on a per-rule basis. You could set
> your TiddlyWiki to always save to a specific folder that way

Thanks. The requirement is:

 Using Chrome, can I get the Save to default to the current name?

rather than any specific folder. Can Downloads Router meet that requirement?

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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Chris Jordan]

Thanks Jeremy and Eric.

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[tw] How to get save to use same filename?

[Chris Jordan]

Using Chrome, can I get the Save to default to the current name? Currently 
each Save defaults to a new name, and the current tab does not update.

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[tw] Re: Save/load failure on latest Chrome

[Chris Jordan]

>
> Have you saved your tiddler?
>

Yes. - as I reported.
 

> Can you see your tiddler on the recent tab? If so, your tiddler is there.
>

Yes. Thanks! 

If you look at your latest image, you will notice that you have a section 
> called DefaulTiddlers. Those tiddlers are opened when you launch your wiki. 
> Click on the button Retain Story ordering, and you will see your latest 
> changes on every wiki reload.
>

That works. Thanks again.

C

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[tw] Save/load failure on latest Chrome

[Chris Jordan]

I saved this http://i.imgur.com/IWRSMbu.png as per instructions, and 
loaded... but got only this: http://i.imgur.com/tyU4PKm.png

I.e. my new tiddler is gone.

What's up?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Usage Statistics

[Chris Dent]

If you're trying to get some sense of diversity of editorial engagement off 
the tiddlyspace stats, the value that is perhaps most useful is the trend 
of the BagsChanged column. BagsChanged is "Count of bags in which at least 
one tiddler was changed today." FatBags tells you how many, at some point 
in their life, had some action. Editors is how many different people 
edited. Created and Modified count tiddlers changed that day.

At one point webalizer was running on tiddlyspace.com but I don't know what 
the URL was, nor if it is still accessible in any fashion.

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Re: [tw] Re: Running TW5 on TiddlyWeb

[chris . dent]

On Sun, 10 Apr 2016, Robert Kreuzer wrote:


While working on this, I realized that TiddlyWiki itself now also comes
with a simple server-side component using NodeJS.
I was wondering what the differences/advantages of using it are rather than
using TiddlyWeb as the server-side?

It looks to me as if TiddlyWeb has a lot more features but is currently
also quite hard to integrate with TW5.
Are there some fundamental differences that make one more suitable than the
other for a multi-user TW5?


As far as I recall TW5's server doesn't support users (or at least
not multiple users) at all. Nor does it support TiddlyWeb's concept
of policies[1], recipes[2] and filters[3] in any significant way.

Recipes are effectively the reason TiddlyWeb was created in the
first place. Since then things like serializers[5] and plugins[6]
have made it very flexible and capable.

[1] https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/policy
[2] https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/recipe
[3] http://tweb-filters.tiddlyspace.com/ [4]
[4] The filters content will be moving off tiddlyspace soon.
[5] https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/serializer
[6] https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/plugins

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[tw] Re: [TW5] export tiddlers to classic Tiddlywiki

[Chris S]

success.. I could not import via the CreateTiddlersFromCSV, its just a 
friend that recommended me the TiddlyFileImportr 
, that worked like a 
charm!

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[tw] Re: [TW5] export tiddlers to classic Tiddlywiki

[Chris S]

no luck, as the F firefox blocks unverified extensions (even when I set tho 
false the the xpinstall.signatures.required)
I hope the CreateTiddlersFromCSV will work..

cheers

chris

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[tw] [TW5] export tiddlers to classic Tiddlywiki

[Chris S]

Hi,

I am  trying to export the tiddlers of a Tiddlywiki5 to classsic one.
The export all feature is not working properly as only one tiddler is 
exported (!).

Is there any other way to import from TW5 to TWC ?

thx in advance,

Chris

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Re: [tw] Re: Running TW5 on TiddlyWeb

[chris . dent]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016, Robert Kreuzer wrote:


I have followed your instructions as far as I understood them, but I
unfortunately know too little about tiddlyweb to make sense of everything.


Apologies for not keeping track of this as much as I initially
promised. Without further input from the TW5 experts it can only get
so far and so far we've not really heard from them...


1. created a test instance in tiddlyweb with `twinstance test`
2. Added the tiddlywebplugins.status and tiddlywebplugins.cors plugins to
test/tiddlywebconfig.py ('system_plugins': ['tiddlywebwiki',
'tiddlywebplugins.status', 'tiddlywebplugins.cors'])


You'll also need these settings:

‘cors.enable_non_simple’: True,
‘cors.allow_creds’: True,
‘cors.match_origin’: True,


3. Create a new recipe called 'somerecipe' using: curl -X PUT -H
'Content-Type: application/vnd.tiddlyweb+json' -d
'{"recipe":[["system",""],["common",""]]}'
http://0.0.0.0:8080/recipes/somerecipe


This is right.


Does this make sense so far? If I understand you correctly, I should now
have a $:/config/tiddlyweb/recipe that points to 'somerecipe'.
But I'm not sure where the TW5 files should go in my 'test' instance. And
do I just clone the TW5 repo and copy it in, or is there some other way to
do this?


This is the tricky tw5 part. There are changes necessary to code
within the tw5 repo to make things go. Those changes are shown in
this diff:


https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/master...cdent:cd/tiddlywebforrealz

Where I've put 'foo' in 'tiddlyweb-recipe.tid' you would put
'somerecipe'.

With those changes in place you can then build a TW5 following the
build instructions available with tidldywiki5.

I'm hoping someone will step up from the tw5 side to provide some
detailed instructions on how to do that and maybe how to most
effectively get the tiddlywebadaptor.js code working properly with
tiddlyweb.

The end goal here is making it possible for a local tiddlywiki html
file to talk to a tiddlyweb server effectively. I've made it work,
quite well, but it requires a lot of hacking into the TiddlyWiki
code (as shown by the diff above).

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Re: [tw] Re: [EOL-TS] Message from TiddlySpace

[chris . dent]

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Yakov wrote:


Chris, could you please do the same for the current snapshot of
tiddlyweb.tiddlyspace.com?


I'll be moving the contents of that space to
https://tank.peermore.com/ sometime before the end of the year.
Much of the content in @tiddlyweb is formatted as markdown so
putting it in a tiddlywiki classic won't be of much use.

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Re: [tw] Re: [EOL-TS] Message from TiddlySpace

[chris . dent]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Yakov wrote:


2. EOL of TiddlySpace doesn't mean that tiddlyweb.com is going anywhere,
does it?


tiddlyweb.com is hosted on my personal server and the domain is
owned by Jeremy so that will be sticking around. One issue that will
need to be addressed is that a lot of the tiddlyweb documentation
currently lives on tiddlyspace in http://tiddlyweb.tiddlyspace.com/

I'll probably use totank to deal with that:
http://totank.tiddlyspace.com/

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[tw] Re: [EOL-TS] Message from TiddlySpace

[chris . dent]

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016, Tobias Beer wrote:


Would you say it makes sense to...


I think what makes sense depends a great deal on who is doing it.
Unfortunately we never really achieved frictionless tiddlyweb.


  - figure out a local install of TiddlyWeb / TiddlyWebWiki
  - somehow replicate / migrate / import spaces there

Right now I'm inclined to simply make local backups of all spaces.
This, of course, will do away with any inclusion and produce standalone
wikis.


I suspect local backups (that include all the stuff that would be
included from other spaces if hosted on tiddlyspace) is probably the
most straightforward way to continue getting individual functionality.

I'm sorry I can't give more concrete advice. I've never really become
all that savvy with TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: [EOL-TS] Message from TiddlySpace

[Chris Dent]

On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 9:21:25 AM UTC, Mat wrote:
>
>
> People might want to check out TANK  which is 
> created by the lead developer of TiddlyWeb and, previously, TiddlySpace.
>
>
I continue to maintain tank and use it as my daily notetaker. I don't, 
however, pay that much attention to how it is being used with tiddlywiki 
class and tw5. It can be used in that context:

* https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/docs/TiddlyWiki%20Classic
* https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/docs/TiddlyWiki%20Five 

but I suspect there are some issues. Please feel free to try it out and if 
it does not behave make some issues

* https://github.com/cdent/tank/issues

I can't promise that I will attend to them immediately (day job comes 
first).

For people who want to experiment with their existing tiddlyspace content 
on tank there's a space for that:

* http://totank.tiddlyspace.com/

Again, I haven't tested this recently, but as far as I know nothing should 
have changed.

Throughout it all, though, please keep in mind that Tank has a different 
paradigm from TiddlySpace. On the surface it is an old school paged-based 
wiki. Underneath is a tiddler application platform. In that underneath 
layer it is possible to use either version of TiddlyWiki as one of the 
apps. I wrote about the differences between Tank and TiddlySpace last year:

* https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tank-notes/TiddlySpace%20and%20Tank

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[tw] Re: [EOL-TS] Message from TiddlySpace

[Chris Dent]

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:14:14 PM UTC, Mat wrote:
>
>
> I was positively surprised to see it last for as long as it did after 
> @cdent left.
>

I think that's a credit to the work that I and others did to set things up. 
We had a really good group of people doing really good work. That things 
have remained standing for two years with apparently very little input from 
the remains of Osmosoft is quite remarkable.

And, just to be clear, in case there's any confusion: I didn't want to 
leave.

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[tw] Re: Pass macro to widget attribute: Create new tiddler with specified title

[Chris Nicoll]

Thanks to everyone on this thread. My new button just got even fancier than 
I'd planned.

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-4, brorgschlr85 wrote:
>
> I am trying to create a button with an accompanying edit-text widget that 
> will (a) create a new tiddler with the title entered in the edit-text 
> widget box, (b) edit the description field of the new tiddler as specified 
> below, (c) assign multiple tags to the new tiddler (as below), and (d) 
> append the current date to the title of the new tiddler.
>
> The following macro achieves objective (a) through (c):
>
> \define newentry()
>> \define tmp() {{$:/temp/newtitle}} <>
>> <$button>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title={{$:/temp/newtitle}} 
>> description=<> 
>> tags="BM GL [[Hello World]]"/>
>> New Entry:
>> 
>> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/newtitle" tag="input" default=""/>
>> \end  
>
>
> However, (d) is proving very difficult. I've tried passing a macro to the 
> title attribute of the action-sendmessage widget, but the result is the 
> literal string of the macro call, e.g.:
>
> \define newentry()
>> \define newtitlemacro() {{:/tempnewtitle}} <>
>> \define tmp() {{$:/temp/newtitle}} <>
>> <$button>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> 
>> description=<> 
>> tags="BM GL [[Hello World]]"/>
>> New Entry:
>> 
>> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/newtitle" tag="input" default=""/>
>> \end  
>
>
> but the resulting button/text field creates a new macro entitled 
> "<>"). As seen above, I'm able to pass macros to the 
> description attribute of the action-sendmessage widget, so I'm not sure why 
> the title attribute takes literal strings only.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Most basic "Hello World" version of TW?

[Chris Dent]

On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:19:43 PM UTC+1, Ben H. wrote:
>
> Which is what brings me back to my original question, which might be 
> better phrased as "How do I separate the Tiddles from the Wiki?"


If what you're after is tiddlers without the wiki then TiddlyWeb[1] may be 
what you want. It provides an HTTP and Python API for storing and 
manipulating tiddlers in a variety of interesting ways that enables a lot 
of the linking, addressing and including abstractions of hypertext.

It was originally developer to be the "mother of all server sides" for 
TiddlyWiki Classic but it very soon became clear that the way it presented 
tiddlers as first class resources in the system made it very powerful.

I continue to use it as a primary tool for building apps and other tools 
that require linking or transclusion of little bits of stuff.

It has an extensive collection of plugins[2] that let you add functionality 
on lots of different dimensions.

It is the framework that is underneath my current day to day wiki: 
https://tank.peermore.com/

One of the reasons I think it might be useful for you is that when people 
first start using it they often build to do applications or other personal 
information management systems.

[1] http://tiddlyweb.com
[2] 
https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search=tiddlywebplugins=search

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