[tw] Re: TiddlyDesktop
Thanks, Alfonso. My apologies for the late response. As I said, I don't make that active use of TiddlyWiki anymore. Just don't want to lose it. It's possible that resolving this issue will get me more active again. I'm checking out your suggestion as well as the others. A question about yours: Is it necessary to install Portable Firefox on a portable drive, a USB drive? Can I install it to my applications folder like regular Firefox? Thanks again, Eric On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:52:04 PM UTC-5, Alfonso Arciniega wrote: > > For everyone that still use TWC, I recommend do not use TiddlyDesktop (any > version). > > I use TWC daily due to a couple of TW's that cannot be converted to TW5 > TW's due to the extensive use of customization and plugins and large amount > of data. > > The best solution to me is to have a portable version of an old version of > FF for exclusive use of these TWC TW's. This version is very small, super > fast, does not messes with other programs or options, and may run out of an > USB. The only caveats are that it cannot be run with another FF version at > the same time, and cannot open TW5 TW's. > > Download the FF portable, almost any language you want, from: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Edition%203.6.28/ > > You may also want to visit: > https://portableapps.com > > Alfonso > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9324e434-b76e-4477-8580-c60c841eccb9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Unable to save
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > <tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Ha! This has been just about all we've talked about for the last 2 weeks. ;-) > > The 2 choices closest to what you had before: > • BJ's save extension: https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers > • Mario's save extension: > https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases Thanks, Mark. As It’s not urgent that I get this issue resolved, I’ll be taking my time in going about at. As I’ve been away from TW a good while, except for adding or changing an occasional tiddler, I’ll have to defamiliarize myself with the way the relevant things are done. But I will be checking out the options you suggest. ------ Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “Man has been a murderer forever.” - Peter Matthiessen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/39C87B9C-8CFD-45CC-A4AD-F19397BC8970%40bellsouth.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Unable to save
This is likely an issue that has been addressed here in the recent past. I have been away from TiddlyWiki Group and TiddlyWiki itself for several years now. I have a TiddlyWiki Classic (2.7.1) configuration that I considered nearly perfect for my purposes—note taking and organizing in support of extended writing projects and management of contact information—at the point that I became inactive. For some time now TiddlyWiki has functioned for me mainly as a contact information backup. I have been running it in FireFox, which I use only for that. A week or so ago after I’d entered some new data I was notified that the Tiddler could not be saved. The notice said that saving should work with FireFox. Other possible reasons given were illegal characters in the TiddlyWiki path name and that the TiddlyWiki file had been moved or renamed, none of which are applicable. Hoping for a straightforward resolution as my TiddlyWiki configuration skills have atrophied considerably in recent years. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net (I)t is important that awake people be awake... the darkness around us is deep. - William Stafford -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/827716B0-363D-4013-921B-8EA26A65B3F9%40bellsouth.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Seeking help regarding suspicious emails
Resending with a different subject heading. Suspect the original was old and might not get much attention. -- Still a subscriber, but haven’t posted in a long time. I need help with something not TW related, but that I thought this group might have a thought about. The email from Jeremy was in my mailbox this morning, but the “to” address was not mine. It was "h...@alph146.prodigy.net.” There were several other emails like this, legitimately mine but with a “to” address that was not mine. All had the same address except that the contained three digit number was different. E.g., an email from my healthcare provider seeking feedback on a recent doctor’s visit was address to "h...@alph133.prodigy.net. Other messages like this have been arriving throughout the morning, all seemingly from sources from which I regularly receive email, all with this incorrect “to” address but with a varying three-digit contained number. It’s been suggest that these are phising attempts, and that I should not click on any of the the links in the messages, on the “click here to begin your survey” link in the message from my healthcare provider. These don’t seem like normal phising emails, which I take are usually/always sent to the correct “to” address. Mystified? Any sense of what’s going on? Reason to be concerned? Thanks, Eric Weir > On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:14 AM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Andrew > > The “red screen of death” is triggered by untrapped JavaScript errors. In > general, there are no guarantees as to the internal state of the system after > an error because it will have been left in an intermediate state. That’s why > the only good general advice is to restart TiddlyWiki. In practice, some > errors are more recoverable than others, but continuing after an RSOD is > inherently risky. > >> Roughly half the time when I get the RSOD, when I click on the offending >> tiddler to amend it, I get another RSOD telling me Node is not defined. I >> know that; I don't use it. I do my development in the browser. Why do I need >> to see this message, and more particularly, why is not having Node - I >> thought it was optional - so serious as to cause an RSOD? > > The error message here is referring to a variable called “Node”, which is > part of the standard DOM specification, and nothing to do with Node.js. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy. > >> >> Thanks, Andrew >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c31d7e18-23ac-4da1-b05c-9271f80e1445%40googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/EA230369-272C-483A-B03C-DFA54A2E0FBF%40gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "Our world is a human world." - Hilary Putnam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/C6237B17-3C2F-42C4-802B-FDFD5A270BE7%40bellsouth.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] TW5 - Another RSOD suggestion
Still a subscriber, but haven’t posted in a long time. I need help with something not TW related, but that I thought this group might have a thought about. The email from Jeremy was in my mailbox this morning, but the “to” address was not mine. It was "h...@alph146.prodigy.net.” There were several other emails like this, legitimately mine but with a “to” address that was not mine. All had the same address except that the contained three digit number was different. E.g., an email from my healthcare provider seeking feedback on a recent doctor’s visit was address to "h...@alph133.prodigy.net. Other messages like this have been arriving throughout the morning, all seemingly from sources from which I regularly receive email, all with this incorrect “to” address but with a varying three-digit contained number. It’s been suggest that these are phising attempts, and that I should not click on any of the the links in the messages, on the “click here to begin your survey” link in the message from my healthcare provider. These don’t seem like normal phising emails, which I take are usually/always sent to the correct “to” address. Mystified? Any sense of what’s going on? Reason to be concerned? Thanks, Eric Weir > On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:14 AM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Andrew > > The “red screen of death” is triggered by untrapped JavaScript errors. In > general, there are no guarantees as to the internal state of the system after > an error because it will have been left in an intermediate state. That’s why > the only good general advice is to restart TiddlyWiki. In practice, some > errors are more recoverable than others, but continuing after an RSOD is > inherently risky. > >> Roughly half the time when I get the RSOD, when I click on the offending >> tiddler to amend it, I get another RSOD telling me Node is not defined. I >> know that; I don't use it. I do my development in the browser. Why do I need >> to see this message, and more particularly, why is not having Node - I >> thought it was optional - so serious as to cause an RSOD? > > The error message here is referring to a variable called “Node”, which is > part of the standard DOM specification, and nothing to do with Node.js. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy. > >> >> Thanks, Andrew >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c31d7e18-23ac-4da1-b05c-9271f80e1445%40googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/EA230369-272C-483A-B03C-DFA54A2E0FBF%40gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "Our world is a human world." - Hilary Putnam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6471212E-D48A-4997-9856-E85D2B166D2C%40bellsouth.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: New Google Group Settings
On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps it needs time to settle down, *Very* interesting. Eric Weir -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7DDC5A28-25D6-4364-89E9-B6E4B2755DBA%40bellsouth.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Where do I set the backup folder in TW Classic (2.7.1)
I have not needed help here for a long time. Also not been necessary to tweak TW for a long time. However, just discovered that TW is not saving backups to the twbackup folder I had previously specified, and I forget where that value is set. I thought it was somewhere in the backstage, but I'm not finding it. Pointer appreciated. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net ...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Where do I set the backup folder in TW Classic (2.7.1)
On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have not needed help here for a long time. Also not been necessary to tweak TW for a long time. However, just discovered that TW is not saving backups to the twbackup folder I had previously specified, and I forget where that value is set. I thought it was somewhere in the backstage, but I'm not finding it. Pointer appreciated. Never mind. I found it--in AdvancedOptions. - Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Quoting code
I have been using the code below to put text in two columns. I would like the
code to display instead of taking effect. How do I do that?
{{cola{text of
column a}}}{{colb{Text of
column b}}}
{{clear{
}}}
Thanks,
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Re: [tw] Quoting code
On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:14 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
In a standard tiddler
{{{
some code
}}}
This works---in display mode. With the fiddler open for editing it obscures the
code, but it's the display of the code that matters.
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Re: [tw] Can't save with TiddlyFox
On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: The latest version of TiddlyFox has finally made it through to the official Mozilla addons site: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox/ How long will it remain the latest version? It their approval process is slow and they continue to make security-related changes that affect the way TiddlyFox works it would be good to know that there is always an alternative. (At least once the problem has been diagnosed and fixed by the TiddlyFox maintainer(s).) Eric Weir Decatur, GA. USA The invincible shield of caring is a weapon from the sky against being dead. – Tao Te Ching, 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Can't save with TiddlyFox
Thanks, Jeremy. Yes, I was able to save earlier. TiddlyFox doesn't show up in the Tools menu. I take it that should be Tools/Extensions? It was not clear to me when I got TiddlyFox from the github site what I was to do with it after downloading. I took a clue from the instructions for development mode installation and put it in my profiles/extensions folder. I take it there's some additional step that has to her taken to activate it? Or I've put it in the wrong place? Regards, Eric On Aug 7, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Your original message implied that previously you had been able to save changes OK, is that correct? The error message suggests that TiddlyFox is not present or active for the TiddlyWiki file. Can you check that the extension is enabled? Do you see the TiddlyFox! menu item on the Firefox Tools menu? Best wishes Jeremy On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Can you describe what's going on in more detail? Do you get an error message when you click save changes? Do you get any error message in the javascript console? What version of Firefox are you running? Thanks, Jeremy, After editing a tiddler, I get this error message: It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include: - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and Opera all work if properly configured) - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed I get no other messages. JavaScript is enabled. Firefox is 22. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. - Charles Bukowski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Can't save with TiddlyFox
On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: It was not clear to me when I got TiddlyFox from the github site what I was to do with it after downloading. I took a clue from the instructions for development mode installation and put it in my profiles/extensions folder. I take it there's some additional step that has to her taken to activate it? Or I've put it in the wrong place? I figured it out, Jeremy. I clicked on the gear icon at the top of the tools/extensions and saw that there was an option to install add-on from file. TiddlyFox now shows up in the Tools/Extensions menu. For not-so-swift users like me it would help if instruction for this could be given on github. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “Guess, compute the consequences of the guess, check if they agree with the evidence, and if the evidence persistently refuses to agree, the guess is wrong.” - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:40 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, I'm following this topic with interest and I'd like to know, what you think about this: tiddlyweb at home - a new possibility https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/FNiWVM3ODRM Thanks for the invitation, Mario. Looks pretty simple---compared to TiddlyWeb raw. Still have to get my head around tiddlers outside a TiddlyWiki. That would probably come pretty quickly with getting started with the new possibility. My only hesitation is that it seems like a lot of machinery to run a TiddlyWiki. At the moment I'm using TW only for maintaining contacts and other miscellaneous notes. Back a couple years ago I was using it to create, store, and organize research notes in preparation for writing a paper. The new possibility would be more attractive if I were still doing so. As I understand it, there are still some kinks to be worked out? If so, I might be persuaded to give it a try once you've done that. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net I can explain it for you, I just can't comprehend it for you. - Ed Koch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:11 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Which OS do you use? OS X 10.8.4. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Chief Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Can't save with TiddlyFox
Today Firefox with TiddlyFox installed I'm not able to save toddlers. The TiddlyFox extension---obtained from https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox---is in my Firefox profile under /extensions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Can't save with TiddlyFox
On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Can you describe what's going on in more detail? Do you get an error message when you click save changes? Do you get any error message in the javascript console? What version of Firefox are you running? Thanks, Jeremy, After editing a tiddler, I get this error message: It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include: - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and Opera all work if properly configured) - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed I get no other messages. JavaScript is enabled. Firefox is 22. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. - Charles Bukowski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: That warning should only appear once for each TiddlyWiki URL, as long as your using the latest version from here: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi Thanks, Jeremy. That one works. The one I got from Mozilla didn't. I've updated Java to rte 7 update 25. Forgive my naiveté, but is it required by TiddlyWiki? No, Java isn't required by TiddlyWiki (unless you're using TiddlySaver). I'd recommend disabling or uninstalling Java unless you use other applications that require it. Following instructions on the Macworld website I disabled it in Safari and Firefox and uninstalled it in the system. Don't know if it'll be needed for anything else, but if I do the article explains (relatively) safely make it available. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: I'd agree that Firefox+TiddlyFox is likely to be the least disruptive route for you, if you're able to make the switch. Older plugins that directly access the filesystem generally won't work with TiddlyFox, but the vast majority of the popular TW plugins work fine with it. Thanks, Jeremy. I'm now set up with Firefox and TiddlyFox. Is there anyway to disable the JavaScrip warning once you've given permission? I've updated Java to rte 7 update 25. Forgive my naiveté, but is it required by TiddlyWiki? You can think of TiddlyWeb as a receptacle for tiddlers that can be combined in different combinations to make TiddlyWikis. Once you're in the TiddlyWiki, it's very much the familiar world of TiddlyWiki plugins, # permalinks etc. TiddlyWeb is pretty mature, and a lot of existing TiddlyWiki plugins work well with it. TiddlyWeb would require a greater investment on your part, but you would gain a good deal of flexibility. If you're working with multiple TiddlyWiki documents that share some information, for instance, you may well find the investment worth while My TiddlyWikis are self-contained, though in the past there were occasions on which I was doing a fair bit of exporting and importing between them. Maybe at some point in the future, when I have the time and am feeling adventurous I'll attempt to give TiddlyWeb a try. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to stay with using TiddlyWiki locally, I think that the best options are: 1) To use Firefox+TiddlyFox: this combination works well, and is likely to work into the far future. And it works on Firefox for Android. 2) To install locally a serverside version of TiddlyWiki, such as TiddlyWeb, so that you can continue to use Safari. There's a bit of an up-front investment to get it working, but you'd end up with a very flexible and performant solution. You should also be able to use BidiX's TiddlyHome, which is simpler and easier to set up Thanks, Jeremy. Sounds like it's a case of good riddance to Java. Initially my reaction was that (2) sounded interesting. After checking information on the TiddlyWeb website, though, I get the sense that it's a completely different species from TiddlyWiki, that I would not be able to use my current TiddlyWiki configuration and plugins, and that there would be a significant learning curve, indeed, that it might be completely beyond my capabilities. Am In the ballpark on that? Especially regarding not being able to use my current TiddlyWiki configuration? If so, perhaps I should give in an go with the Firefox+TiddlyFox combination. Would rather not, but perhaps it will more readily accommodate my current usage. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jun 30, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 29, 2013, at 1:07 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:17:06 PM UTC+2, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks. I've also reverted to Java 7 Update 25 and can save in TW in Safari. I assume that by reverting to an earlier version I've recreated a security risk? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_7_updates also see references 122-124 Seems indeed I do. Having second thoughts about reverting. But then, of course, no saving with Safari.ue I have not upgraded to the current Java Update yet and am feeling increasingly anxious about that fact. I'm wondering if there's been any change regarding the conflict between TiddlyWiki and Java running in Safari. I'm guessing probably not and am beginning to explore other possibilities for managing the kinds of information I've been managing with TiddlyWiki---contact info, reminders, annotations of stuff I'm reading, and miscellaneous brief notes. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net I can explain it for you, I just can't comprehend it for you. - Ed Koch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jun 29, 2013, at 1:07 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:17:06 PM UTC+2, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks. I've also reverted to Java 7 Update 25 and can save in TW in Safari. I assume that by reverting to an earlier version I've recreated a security risk? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_7_updates also see references 122-124 Seems indeed I do. Having second thoughts about reverting. But then, of course, no saving with Safari. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Arc Acorn nuttyta...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, June 28, 2013 7:22:55 AM UTC-7, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Reto reto@gmail.com wrote: After upgrading to Java 7 Update 25 I couldn't save anymore. I uninstalled Update 25 and installed Java 7 Update 21. Result: I could save again in TW. How do you get Java 7 Update 21? At the Java Archive: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/archive-139210.html Slightly more direct link: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html#jre-7u21-oth-JPR Thanks. I've also reverted to Java 7 Update 25 and can save in TW in Safari. I assume that by reverting to an earlier version I've recreated a security risk? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. - Chief Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for the late reply. I've installed Java 7 on my Mac and have been trying to debug what's going on. At the moment, I believe that you have uncovered an incompatibility between the new version of Java and TiddlySaver, but further investigation is needed. Thanks, Jeremy. The explanation helps. As others have pointed out, Firefox+TiddlyFox is the most reliable, future proof way to save changes in TiddlyWiki on desktop and mobile. Yes, I'll keep that in mind. Perhaps irrational, but I was hoping to be able to stick with Safari. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Troubles with Java 7 Update 25
On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Reto reto.sta...@gmail.com wrote: After upgrading to Java 7 Update 25 I couldn't save anymore. I uninstalled Update 25 and installed Java 7 Update 21. Result: I could save again in TW. How do you get Java 7 Update 21? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgon...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? TiddlyWiki is now unusable to me. Given the lack of response to my requests for help it appears that it's going to remain that way. That disappoints me greatly. TiddlyWiki is an amazing app. Unfortunately, the very things that make it amazing mean that without good documentation and technical support it is impractical for ordinary nonprogrammer users. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgon...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The most important thing is the tee-shirt. - Samara Alnafdage -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Doing a bit of googling, something obvious that might be worth checking: check that Safari Preferences Security Enable Java is turned on. Well, I can report progress, but still no prize. Googling I became aware that you have to click on plugin inactive that was showing when I went to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp Now it tells me Java SE 7 Update 25 is running. But I'm still not able to save. Java is enabled. I've tried restarting Safari and rebooting the system. Still not able to save. The notice of verification of signature and request to run TW does not display. Might get help with this by further Googling, but perhaps at this point there's something TW folks could suggest. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Mac OS X + Safari + JRE 7 + TiddlyWiki -- Seems To Be Working Well So Far
On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Chris cjh.h...@gmail.com wrote: For those who worry about Mac OS X and Safari and TiddlyWiki together: I just installed JRE 7 (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html) and so far it seems to be a big improvement over JRE 6. The big change is that JRE7 saves the Unamesa certificate for local TiddlyWiki files (JRE 6 did not). What this means is that you only get asked about running TiddlySaver.jar one time (instead of 3 for JRE 6). No need to answer the dreaded question again next time you open the TIddlyWiki. Per a previous topic here - you still need to activate the Develop menu in Safari and then Disable Local File Restrictions I wonder if this is related to the difficulty I've been having getting TW to save since moving to Mountain Lion and Java 7. How do I activate the Develop menu? Likewise disable local file restrictions? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: I think the issue might be that Java isn't installed by default on Mountain Lion. As far as I can tell, the best way to get it is to install it from Oracle's site: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp Thanks for the link, Jeremy. Java is installed. I quit Safari and restarted. Still not able to save. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net It is the mark of an educated man to look for precision in each class of things just so far as the nature of the subject admits. - Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure what to suggest - do other Java applets work for you in Safari? If not, I guess you're looking at some Java configuration issue. If you can run other applets then there might be something we can track down. Hmm. Don't have or run any applets that I know of. Would rebooting resolve it? I'll give it a try. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Not able to save with Safari
Just finishing up setting up a new computer. I am now unable to save TWs running in Safari. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. No problem on OS X Snow Leopard. Now on Mountain Lion. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Optional multiple tag fields (@Jeremy)
On May 17, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Mat wrote: So, operation where optional multiple tag fields would simplify. For sake of explanation we have a TW on Tolkien stuff. Tiddler Frodo can have tags like the following: ring bearer, hobbit, protagonist, Elijah Woods, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, @Jeremy, and N more tags - i.e any association the author (or a group of people!) considers relevant. Thus, tags are plenty, sprawly and arbitrary - though all quite relevant and realistic. Using many(!) tags is problematic in current TW and problems increase with the number of tags. But if TW is to fit around your brain then just like some subjects in your brain has many associations, so do some tiddlers require many tags. It is a limitation to feel that I'd better not. One specific problem is (was?) slowness as a consequence of many tags, especially for various searches that have to scan all tiddlers and all tags. Categories of tags could maybe smoothen this. I may be off-base here---my immediate reaction when I started reading was to say what I'm going to say, but I kept thinking, We'll maybe he'll eventually get to something that that would not be relevant to---but tags are not magic. Tags don't organize things. Human beings organize things. And they have to organize tags, too. I'm suspecting---and I don't mean to give offense here, just guessing at what's going on---that you're not putting much thought into your tagging---into developing a tagging *system.* To precisely that end I have found taggly tagging to be *extremely* helpful. As you may know, in taggly tagging, since all tags are tiddlers anyway, tags can be tagged, too. That allows you to put your tags into a hierarchical structure. Which I suspect would in time take care of the problem you're experiencing, which, for all the words you put into describing it, I take to be simply the problem of many tags. I have found the combination of tw and tt *extremely* helpful in organizing my thinking about what I can assure you are extremely complicated subjects. The really cool thing is that you do not have to have your structure set up in advance. It can evolve as your thinking evolves. So you just start with whatever categories seem most appropriate initially. As your understanding of the subject develops, the tags you started with are likely to come to seem inadequate. Of course you will need additional tags, but some early ones may need to be revised. And tags can be edited! Maybe some will need to be renamed. Or maybe several can be grouped together under a common tag. As you continue the tagging structure will get clearer and your use of tags more discriminating. But it can continue evolving indefinitely. I use the tw treeview blackicity tw developed by Morris Gray. I think I added tt to it. With it I have four ways to locate a tiddler---by tags, in the tree structure---which is itself a graphical representation of the tagging structure---in the time line and/or alphabetical list in the right hand column, or by searching. And as in a standard tw, an open tag tiddler will display a list of all the tiddlers tagged with the tag. Lots of ways to find tiddlers. Lots of ways represent the structure of your tags. Lots of support for thinking about complex topics. Again, I may have misunderstood your problem completely. I hope not and I hope this helps. [Maybe *it* will just confuse you more.] Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. - Charles Bukowski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Optional multiple tag fields (@Jeremy)
On May 17, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Mat wrote: Tagglytagging and treeview - I love them both and do use them extensively. They are key 'features' in most of my TW's. Glad to hear you have found them useful, too, Mat. And I fully agree with your starting comment that human beings organize things [not tags] and that my proposal would (optionally) force thought into tagging. But while taggly and treeview do organize tags, they don't address the the issues that I bring up which is more about managing tags and, particularly, not being forced to learn code operations to do this. This is an area in which I think taste and work habits may enter, not inappropriately, into our judgments about what makes for efficiency in software. I personally find taggly tagging sufficient for managing tags, but then managing tags may mean something different to me than it does to you. My overall hope is that TW would be easier to user for laymen (non-coders). Not everyone is a layman, especially not here, which is why I suggest this as an optional feature. That was one part of your post that I didn't comment on---tw's unfriendliness to non-coding users. I am fortunate that I got a lot of help from the coders here and gradually developed a tw setup that suits most of my needs very efficiently. But I must have had tw for a couple years before I even began to get a faint clue about how I make meaningful use of it, and it was quite a while, and took a lot of then-patient hand-holding, for me to get to a place where it was actually useful. TW is extremely versatile, and for that reason very powerful. But for that reason exploiting any of its seemingly innumerable capabilities can require more than a little skill. So some of the difficulty for non-coders is inherent. But it could be a lot easier than it is. In fact, there has been almost no effort to develop the kind of documentation that could help non-coding users get to a level modest competence with tw. BTW, do you have any thoughts on the closely related issue I describe? Ie that tags could be field arrays instead so that you don't have to deal with several concepts and learn specific operations for them? No I don't. My immediate reaction is that field arrays sounds kind of databasey, and I have never thought databases might be helpful in the way I described tw with tt being helpful to me. Rather than allowing structure to evolve organically with one's thinking about a subject, as I understand them databases pretty much require you to have the structure in place before you start using them. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On May 15, 2013, at 8:23 AM, FrD sokus...@gmail.com wrote: Did you have by chance any time to update this plugin ? I was just going to ask myself. Eric Weir Decatur, GA. USA The invincible shield of caring is a weapon from the sky against being dead. – Tao Te Ching, 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Can't save tiddlers since Safari upgrade
Since Safari was upgraded recently, my TWs have been behaving differently. I get only one request to verify the signature instead of the three I used to get. Also I am no longer able to save tiddlers. TiddlySaver.jar is in place. Help appreciated. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net “A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.” - Aldo Leopold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:46 PM, FrD wrote: Le vendredi 29 mars 2013 18:47:42 UTC+1, Tobias Beer a écrit : For what it's worth I have created a modified version of FontSizePlugin that by default applies the font size to the entire document body... http://fontsize.tiddlyspace.com Nice idea and nice coding ! I've got only a little pb : there seems to be an extra linefeed or cr after the three buttons ? Hi guys. As I mentioned earlier, I think this is the source of the last problem I reported---the change size button doesn't show up when put in topmenu and appears out of place when placed in sidebaroptions. How do I correct the problem? Could someone help me with this? I'd like to use the plugin. I've looked at the code myself, but am unclear where the three buttons are nor do I see any CRs or LFs, not in Jedit X with invisibles set to show, nor in Vim. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:46 PM, FrD wrote: Le vendredi 29 mars 2013 18:47:42 UTC+1, Tobias Beer a écrit : For what it's worth I have created a modified version of FontSizePlugin that by default applies the font size to the entire document body... http://fontsize.tiddlyspace.com Nice idea and nice coding ! I've got only a little pb : there seems to be an extra linefeed or cr after the three buttons ? Hi guys. As I mentioned earlier, I think this is the source of the last problem I reported---the change size button doesn't show up when put in topmenu and appears out of place when placed in sidebaroptions. How do I correct the problem. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Hatred destroys. Love heals. - Eknath Easwaran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Tobias Beer wrote:
fontsize
...all lowercase — and that should finally work. ;-)
Thanks, Tobias.
It works in sidebaroptions but not topmenu. I'd prefer to have it in the
topmenu. These are the relevant lines of my topmenu:
span title=Close all tiddlers and open Welcome
style=cursor:pointer''home''/span/a/lilicloseAll/lilinewTiddler/lilinewJournal
-0MM-0DD
journallisaveChanges/lilidoBackup/lili{{nowrap{search}}}/lili[[?|Find]]/lili[[toggle
tabs»|ToggleTiddlersBar]]/lilitiddler ToggleRightSidebar with: sidebar
»/lilifontsize/li/ul/div/html
If it won't work there, I'd like to have better control of the position in the
sidebar, but I'll wait to go into that till we see if it can be made to work in
the topmenu.
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Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On Mar 27, 2013, at 12:39 PM, FrD wrote: You could give a try to : FontSizePlugin at http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/ It seems quite old but may be working well ... Thanks, I'll give it a try. However, if it's the plugin that's being used in the head of the Lewcid site, it changes font size only in the story area. That's less a problem for me than font sizes in the header and right and left sidebars---places that need to be touched to control the TW on the iPad. If I could increase font size some percent across the board that would be cool. But any pointers would be welcome. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir With an ounce of willingness, everything can change. - Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Changing display font size
On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Tobias Beer wrote: For what it's worth I have created a modified version of FontSizePlugin that by default applies the font size to the entire document body... http://fontsize.tiddlyspace.com Wow! Thanks, Tobias. When I copy the code to a tiddler and save it, though, I get error in macro fontsize. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Changing display font size
I want to change the size of the display font in the TWs I use on my iPad. It's been a long time since I've done any tweaking of a TW and I'm not sure how and where I do it---whether one value or several, in one location or several. I've skimmed the StyleSheet tiddler and settings that might do the trick are not obvious to me. Guidance appreciated. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy
On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: After quick glance at SugarSync's developer documentation (https://www.sugarsync.com/developer) their API looks very reasonable. I'm trying to abstract the specifics of serverside APIs sufficiently that adaptors can be fairly simple, and I'd hope that we'd end up with a bunch of options for users. Thanks, Jeremy. Glad to hear that your assessment supports mine. I have several iPad apps from one developer, Readdle, that routinely builds in support for a variety of syncing options. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 introductory screencast
On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working with the author of TWEdit/TWMobile to create a similar wrapper application that allows TiddlyWiki documents to be stored offline and synced to and from external services. Thanks, Jeremy. My classic TWs run without modification in TWEdit. I need to enlarge the font to use them effectively on the iPad, but that is all. Regards, Eric Weir Decatur, GA. USA The invincible shield of caring is a weapon from the sky against being dead. – Tao Te Ching, 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 introductory screencast
On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Mark Krieg wrote: I think that you've done an outstanding job on this video! You systematically step the user through the features and functions of TW5. Highlighting the save function in different browsers was brilliant! Agreed. While I'm at it, can I run TiddlyWiki5 on an iPad? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net “A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.” - Aldo Leopold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy
On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Yes, I'd like to support Google Drive, and Microsoft's LiveDrive. I've done Dropbox first mainly because it's what I use. SugarSync? I find it much more convenient than Dropbox. -- Eric Weir You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes
On 29 Jan 2013, at 23:42, Sabine Kalinowsky mrskalinow...@googlemail.com wrote: It seems that you are pretty close in getting it working. And I have to admit, it is really complex, the whole syncing stuff. But we have to work within the limitation of TW. - Anyway, just to recap how the syncing works. There are 3 data sources: This post alerted me to the existence of TiddlyNotes. I've installed the lite version. It appears that customization is not possible, i.e., that there's no access to the timeline and the control tiddlers. To start with I'd like to like to add TiddlersBar, TagglyTagging, and to change the way tagging is implemented. Possible? Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. - Zygmunt Bauman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Eric Weir wrote: My regular TW is running in TWEdit without modification. The only problem is that fonts are very small for touch actuation of commands. Looks like I'm gonna have to modify my standard TW to make it usable on the iPad. Increasing font size might do the trick. It's been so long since I've done any customization that I'm a little vague about how to do that. It will come. Wondering in particular if I can do that across the board with a simple change or if changes will have to be made in many places. StyleSheetShortcuts looks like it might be the place. Or is there somewhere else? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'll be checking out TWEdit in the next couple days. Between the above and the description on the app store I'm unclear whether Dropbox syncing is available with the current version. My regular TW is running in TWEdit without modification. The only problem is that fonts are very small for touch actuation of commands. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 2, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Richard Niolon wrote: What's your configuration? My apologies for taking so long to respond. Tied down with work. And trying to get my iPad and MacBook communicating effectively. My configuration is a tweak of TWT-Blackicity. http://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/ I find the combination of timelines, tagging, and Treeview to be extremely powerful for my purposes. I've been using my tweak for so long I don't remember what changes I made to it. One I definitely do remember is TagglyTagging. With it and the three features mentioned previously I'm able to organize---and reorganize on the fly---large collections of text notes. I can start working with only a vague idea of my structure and allow the structure to evolve in the course of the work. Again, very powerful. I've run several tiddlywikis with it - one I used for my course website with my notes and all for each week, one that hold all my tasks and projects, and one I use to take notes about my advisees with. I used to back it up to tiddlyspot without a problem, but like dropbox now. The only plugin I've had a problem with is EasyEdit, but I think that could be an ipad issue. Reminder plugins, calendar ones, foreachtiddler, Udo's search plugin... even Eric's plugin that lets you embed pictures (of my advisees) in the tiddlywiki all work fine in twmobile. Sounds like you also have found like yoiu've taken full advantage of TWs versatility. I'm looking forward to see what I can do with it on the iPad. Thanks for your response. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Decatur, GA USA Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:50 PM, chris wrote: TWEdit and TWMobile are at version 2.2.3 - and the referenced 2.2.2 problem was fixed with that release. I recommend TWEdit over TWMobile as TWEdit runs on both iPad and iPhone (the original iPad only app was called TWMobile but someone snagged that name in App Store before I got the iPhone version out - and so I had to create TWEdit as the app for both platforms - they run the same code base and I keep TWMobile going really only for those folks who bought it ahead of TWEdit). Version 2.3 is in test with a new file manager and full file system sync to dropbox, plus one or two other bits and pieces. Will get that out the door soon - or as soon as I feel 100% comfortable with it. My apologies for the delay in responding, Chris. Just haven't had time to get back to the responses to my query. I'll be checking out TWEdit in the next couple days. Between the above and the description on the app store I'm unclear whether Dropbox syncing is available with the current version. Over the past couple years I've become a devote of Vim. Before acquiring an iPad I used it for all my writing. Unfortunately the only port of Vim for the iPad is pretty crippled. So I'm looking forward to seeing if TW can take its place until a workable version shows up. [I hope one will. Unfortunately, I'm incapable of helping. Wish it were otherwise.] Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Richard Niolon wrote: TWMobile in the app store will run a tiddlywiki just fine, and let you save it to dropbox. The current release (2.2) has a problem but the author has a temporary fix while apple reviews 2.3... Thanks, Richard. Do you have any idea whether I could load my configuration onto it? -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] TW on iPad
I've just bought an iPad. I gather that TW can be run on it, though I have not followed discussion related to it here. Pointers, either about how to do it or to documentation regarding same. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Decatur, GA USA Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Expired digital signature warning
On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: A new build of TiddlySaver is in preparation for the upcoming 2.7.0 release. In the meantime you can download a beta of the new TiddlySaver here: http://tiddlywiki.com/beta/TiddlySaver.jar Thanks, Jeremy. Got it. If it's not too complicated, what does it do? I.e., differently. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. - Zygmunt Bauman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Expired digital signature warning
I have upgraded my primary TiddlyWikis to 2.6.6. I also have the most recent TiddlySaver.jar. And I continue to get digital signature expired warnings which I start up a TiddlyWiki. The warning is displayed three times with the first TiddlyWiki and once fort subsequent TiddlyWikis, even though I always check always trust content from this publisher. Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop it? I'm on a Mac [OS X 10.6.8} with Safari 5.1.7. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] On another note
Now that I have 2.6.6 I am able to do save as on my TW's on my Mac for the first time in years. The problem may have been solved some time ago, as I had not upgraded since 2.5.0. In any case, I'm grateful it's finally fixed. Thanks, Eric. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net The invincible shield of caring Is a weapon sent from the sky against being dead. - Tao Te Ching 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Mac OS X + Safari + JRE 7 + TiddlyWiki -- Seems To Be Working Well So Far
On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Chris wrote: Per a previous topic here - you still need to activate the Develop menu in Safari and then Disable Local File Restrictions Don't remember how I did the former, but it seems I have. Haven't been able to find out how you do the latter. Also, how do I tell if I already have JRE 7 installed? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: New alpha of TiddlyWiki5
On Jun 28, 2012, at 3:13 AM, TonyM wrote: I add TiddlersBarPlugin to every TiddlyWiki I build and my main one would be unusable without it. Ditto. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net Everywhere the crisis of the private financial system has been transformed into a tale of slovenly and overweening government that perpetuates and is perpetuated by a dependent and demanding population. - Marilynne Robinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] New alpha of TiddlyWiki5
On Jun 22, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I made a little video to demonstrate some of the new features on an iPad: https://vimeo.com/44538974 Really cool. Looking forward to learning more as it develops. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one. - Voltaire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Please vote for a TiddlyWiki-powered innovation award!
On May 19, 2012, at 6:54 PM, dickon wrote: I am hoping to persuade tiddlywikists to go to the polls and vote for the AMBIT Collaboration, which is shortlisted for a Guardian/VirginMedia Innovation Award, a major UK award that would be an amazing boost for this small charity-based project. Done. Though I don't totally understand what you've done, I'm very impressed what I do understand, e.g., making it possible for users to localize the manuals. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A man should be in the world as though he were not in it so that it will be no worse because of his life. - Wendell Berry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: TW won't save changes
On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Eric Shulman wrote: The cert was updated recently, and a new .jar has been posted here: http://tiddlywiki.com/beta/TiddlySaver.jar Download this to your local directory and give it a try. Thanks, Eric. I thought that was in the works, but missed the announcement. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir With an ounce of willingness, everything can change. - Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: TW won't save changes
On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Eric Shulman wrote: The cert was updated recently, and a new .jar has been posted here: http://tiddlywiki.com/beta/TiddlySaver.jar Download this to your local directory and give it a try. It's working, but the behavior is a little funny: The message regarding the certificate is still displayed even though I've checked the always trust content from this publisher box. Also, I have to click run three times to get my response accepted. Initially, display of the message was delayed. I assumed the certificate had been accepted and tried saving a tiddler, which cause the TW to freeze up. I can live with the first two, but I sense things are not working as they should, and thought you would want to know. Thanks again, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] TW won't save changes
For some time now when I start up TW I've been getting a notice to the effect that the UnaMesa certificate has expired. It gives me the option of running the script, which I've always selected, and then I have no problem after that. Just now the message was not displayed, I did not get that option, and my TWs won't save changes. What do I do? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] TW won't save changes
On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Eric Weir wrote: For some time now when I start up TW I've been getting a notice to the effect that the UnaMesa certificate has expired. It gives me the option of running the script, which I've always selected, and then I have no problem after that. Just now the message was not displayed, I did not get that option, and my TWs won't save changes. When I restarted TW a few minutes ago it displayed the message regarding the UnaMesa certificate, so I am now able to save changes. Is there anything I can do to enable my TWs to authenticate the UnaMesa certificate or is it simply out of date? Thanks again, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Another browser to add to the it works list: luakit!
On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:08 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Awesome, and congratulations. There's nothing like the exhilaration of something working unexpectedly. I hadn't come across Luakit, not being a Linux user, but it seems like a great fit for TiddlyWiki. Will it run in OS X? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Hatred destroys. Love heals. - Eknath Easwaran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Another browser to add to the it works list: luakit!
On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Måns wrote: Will it run in OS X? A comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1947036 I guess you'll have to use Linux ... Thanks, Måns. Interesting. At the luakit page on github it is described as a fast, light and simple to use micro-browser framework exensible by Lua using the WebKit web content engine and the GTK+ toolkit. Googling webkit the first item describes it thus: WebKit is an open source web browser engine. WebKit is also the name of the Mac OS X system framework version of the engine that's used by Safari, Dashboard, Mail, and many other OS X applications. If it is indeed a problem on OS X, must be GTK+? The GTK+ website describes it as a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces. Responding to the question, Where can it be used, it says, Everywhere! Pretty certain it's all beyond me, though. Wouldn't have a clue how to go about any of this. And with webkit originating in OS X I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out not to solve my apparently OS X-related TiddlyWiki problems. Thanks again, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Fwd: Recommended third-party tools
On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:07 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: it all starts with building an utterly awesome product... Absolutely! And you've already got that. As I said, the limited knowledge and use is unfortunate. Without being too melodramatic, even tragic. and then spreading the word. This what's missing. The word about TW. The word about how to use TW. Regards, -- Eric Weir With an ounce of willingness, everything can change. - Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Fwd: Recommended third-party tools
On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Eric Weir wrote: [c] Evident, no doubt, but shoulda been [b]. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net The invincible shield of caring Is a weapon sent from the sky against being dead. - Tao Te Ching 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Fwd: Recommended third-party tools
On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Alex Hough wrote: The marketing cliche goes :sell the sizzle not the sausage Well, the marketing folks are pretty good at what they do, and I don't know how you could get the sizzle without the sausage, and the sizzle is probably part of what I want, but it's the *sausage* that I want. Too often the marketing folks are able to sell us sizzle without the sausage. I try to give them as few opportunities as possible--which in the age of internet advertising is admittedly difficult--but I don't own a television. Haven't for probably 40 years. [Yes, there's good stuff, but there's also a lot of sizzle.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Fwd: Recommended third-party tools
On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Alex Hough wrote: It might be an idea to get a community proposal together for the Unamesa board [1] and present it to them Coming from the community, such a proposal might be seen (legitimately I think) as an organizational achievement. Haven't taken time to read your entire post, yet, but wanted to comment that a primary responsibility, of the board of most nonprofits is to ask for donations. And one of the primary qualifications that nonprofits look for in board members is ability to support the organization financially, likely knowledge of other individuals who could do so, and experience that suggests they would be comfortable approaching other such individuals whom they do not know but who are believed to be good targets to ask for donations. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Fwd: Recommended third-party tools
Thought this statement from another open-source project might be of interest to TiddlyWiki folks: Begin forwarded message: From: Russell D Brunelle rdb...@uw.edu Date: February 22, 2012 5:03:07 PM EST To: lyx-us...@lists.lyx.org lyx-us...@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Recommended third-party tools I'd like to thank everyone who offered suggestions for this guide. I've implemented almost all of them, and anyone who wants to take this thing and make something more official out of it is welcome to. I remain of the opinion that a simple, one-page guide which takes the user step-by-step not only through installing LyX, but also through installing at least one good example of each of the main types of supporting tools, would be a boon for beginners. Although one of the strengths of open source software is the amount of choice you get, I also believe it's helpful to be able to say to a beginner, You are welcome and encouraged to try everything and see what best suits you, but for purpose X, right now package Y (or perhaps package Z) would be an excellent place to start. Not only does this make LyX more attractive through showing the power of the entire software ecosystem, but it raises the odds that the user actually *will* end up using some sort of software for purpose X instead of nothing (a great example of this is reference management software like jabref or pybliographer which seems to me to be woefully underutilized). Anyway, thank you again for all the suggestions. I've always loved LyX and hope in some small way this contribution was worthwhile. Russell http://russellb.livejournal.com/1335718.html I believe a simplified guide such as this could be very helpful for students about to enter college to study one of the sciences -- Eric Weir Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one. - Voltaire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki and Google Chrome for Mac
On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:30 PM, HansBKK wrote: For my many-plugin customized TWs running on Windows, the last Firefox v3.6 is the only platform that doesn't require more fiddling about than I'm willing to give and works just fine. I use other browsers for my day-to-day, just set *.htm to launch with FF and only use *.html for normal pages to launch my default (Chrome). Safari [5.1.2] works reasonably well for me, though I've had some Mac-specific problems with TW, as I recall, related to saving, perhaps to using save as. There is a least one plugin that won't work for me, though I'm able to get around that by using the bookmarklet version of the plugin. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Every moment is unique and discrete. Eknath Eswaran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: what Yahoo calls a chromeless browser
On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I'll try to draw some pictures of these configurations, I realise that it's all a bit confusing, At first I was going to say, No, I don't, and probably never will, understand the actual technology, but I get the general picture. But your comment that it doesn't mean the end of the line for the single file configuration of TiddlyWiki brought me up a little short. I've wondered for long time, and have done so here more than once, whether a TW-specific browser would solve the browser compatibility issues that been with us for a long time, and whether such a thing could even be constructed. From your response I gather that that's not exactly what you're working on, but to the degree that I understand it it's appealing. The comment that brought me up short leads me to think, however, that I might not be able to simply port my tiddlers and plugins over to the new app and go merrily on as I have with the exception of a few things I've had to just live with. The latter, as best I can recall, have had to do in part with incompatibilities between a a favorite plugin or two and OSX. Since I'm not able to identify the problems at this point you may not be able to answer, but is it possible that the new app will avoid incompatibilities with OSX? Anyway, it sounds very interesting. Glad you're back at work on TW. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Math without plug-in
On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: In terms of plugin distribution, I've come to believe that the present scattered nature of TiddlyWiki makes things needlessly hard for users. They have to find tiddlywiki.com, download the product, and then by reading the groups they have to figure out the sites that they need to visit to get the basic plugins that everyone relies on. So, for TW5, I'm interested in developing the idea of core plugins written by the community that become part of the standard distribution of tiddlywiki. You're not the first person to say such and such a plugin is so incredibly useful that it should be in the core. The community tends to interpret it as a suggestion that the plugin or feature becomes part of the core code, because we don't have any other unit of distribution. And then it becomes a consideration of bytes vs. benefits, and the generality of the feature. I think we can avoid all of that by introducing the idea of the tiddlywiki distribution being made up of the core code plus a bunch of plugins evolved by the community. That, together with the manual that was recently suggested would be fantastic. The amazingly flexible-adaptable TW would remain amazingly flexible-adaptable. The amazingly creative TW developer community could continue to find ways to exploit the amazing flexibility-adapatability. And it would all be MUCH more accessible to ordinary users. -- Eric Weir Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one. - Voltaire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Sub-structuring TiddlyWikis
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM, hpon peter.norli...@gmail.com wrote: I sub-structure my TiddliWikis, using multiple empty.html files arranged in corresponding folders. I use relative file paths within the TiddlyWiki, which enables me to easily share isolated branches of the entire body of information. Other advantages of sub-structuring are transparency, readability, ease maintenance, aesthetics etc. It is really good that TiddlyWiki makes it possible to embody an entire wiki within one file. However, I find that sub-structuring becomes the most preferable approach even when the complexity of the TW is quite low. I'd like to learn more about this--how you do it? Exposing my naivete here, but not real clear on relative file paths. Exactly how are they used. Surely the empty.html files are not empty? Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Error on loading
On Jan 26, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Eric Shulman wrote: When I open a TW the process hangs for a while, then when it opens the PluginManager tiddler is open, the line for the SplitTiddler plugin is highlighted, and the following message is displayed in the column on the right: Error: SyntaxError: Unexpected token '/' I recently installed a new copy of the plugin. I thought it was missing from the TW, but it turned out it was there but not tagged with the systemConfig tag. Maybe it's not supposed to be tagged? Indeed... SplitTiddler is not a plugin... it is a transclusion. All the code processing is done using embedded HTML form handling, so there's nothing to invoke during document startup. Thus, it does *not* get a systemConfig tag. To use a transclusion, simply view the tiddler or embed (aka, transclude) it into other content (i.e., tiddler SplitTiddler. Note that *plugins* are tiddlers containing valid javascript code *only*. Any other content within a plugin tiddler is enclosed in javascript comment markers (/* ... */ or //) so it will be ignored and not processed as program code. Also note that, at least for TiddlyTools.com, the convention is that *plugins* (which require the systemConfig tag) include the word Plugin in their title, while transclusions and other 'embedded code' tiddlers (e.g., HTML forms, scripts using InlineJavascriptPlugin, etc.) do not have Plugin in their title. Thanks for the explanation, Eric. I've wondered why some plugins are identified as such and some are not. Didn't occur to me that in fact they are not plugins. Also have never understood what people are talking about when they talk about transclusion. A bit of insight now. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Error on loading
When I open a TW the process hangs for a while, then when it opens the PluginManager tiddler is open, the line for the SplitTiddler plugin is highlighted, and the following message is displayed in the column on the right: Error: SyntaxError: Unexpected token '/' I recently installed a new copy of the plugin. I thought it was missing from the TW, but it turned out it was there but not tagged with the systemConfig tag. Maybe it's not supposed to be tagged? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Hatred destroys. Love heals. - Eknath Easwaran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Create massive tiddlers from text file
On Jan 21, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Alex Hough wrote: If you head over to TiddlyTools.com, you will find Eric has a pluging that makes tiddlers from CSV files. I've used a combination of Eric's FileDrop and SplitTiddler plugins. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. - Chief Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 12, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Smandoli wrote: Since we're so far OT, and so interested in Taggly Tagging, I might as well ask ... I've tried installing TT but I don't see all the features. The drop-down for tags works great. But I can't find the feature were you mouse-over and get access to a settings panel. The tagging tags aren't appearing any different; and it seems the code has failed to replace the ViewTemplate. So I feel I'm missing at least 70% of the fun. I suggest you get an MPTW and just play around with TagglyTagging on it. From your comments I sense you don't understand what TagglyTagging is, which I didn't either at first. The basically the idea is that tags are tiddlers and as such can be tagged. That allows you to create a hierarchal structure of tags. And with renaming of tags, creating new tags, and retagging to modify your structure as you go. You don't need--nor would you be able to, anyway--figure out the structure once-and-for-all ahead of time. It can evolve as your think evolves, and as it evolves it will stimulate further clarification of your thoughts about the topic. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 13, 2012, at 4:03 AM, PMario wrote: The easiest way to go is, to use an empty MPTW to start with. Amen--especially as it comes with an explanation of TagglyTagging and some simple exercises to give you an initial feel for it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:45 AM, HansBKK wrote: That's why I opted for the old-fashioned political economic philosophy for my self-designed major, I quickly saw that statistic-based scientific economics was far from exact and IMO just not that interesting. . . Continuing OT: Good for you. They seem not to have learned much from the recent/current crisis. Their formulas leave out a lot that that can turn their predictions upside down. Never mind, they're beautiful. Oh, and Derman knows whereof he speaks. He's a physicist turned finance quant. Check out the wikipedia article on him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Derman Regards, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net The invincible shield of caring Is a weapon sent from the sky against being dead. - Tao Te Ching 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:57 AM, PMario wrote: On Jan 11, 5:06 pm, Smandoli themanthurs...@gmail.com wrote: After 20 minutes spending reading Group posts on TagglyTagging, I'm tempted to spoof the Derman quote with something provocative about TW culture. You should read http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/ tiddler Using TagglyTagging to organise your data Yep. I started with MPTW. Took many of it's features over into Morris Gray's TiddlyWiki-Treeview, customized with a lot of help from Morris, who I sense hasn't appeared here for a good while. Unfortunate. Regarding TagglyTagging. It had my head spinning till I got the hang of it. It's what's made TW useful to me. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Smandoli wrote: @Eric -- Great post. Response 1 was Oh yeah, I wish I'd said that. Response 2 was Wait, what's he talking about? I use TiddlerTweakerPlugin ... wow, look at this ... got to try it out! Response 3 was Amen to E. Derman about economics. Glad you liked it, Smandoli. I was just reporting my experience. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. - Chief Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Smandoli wrote: After 20 minutes spending reading Group posts on TagglyTagging, I'm tempted to spoof the Derman quote with something provocative about TW culture. Well don't leave us hanging like that. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net The invincible shield of caring Is a weapon sent from the sky against being dead. - Tao Te Ching 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Best way to organize TW?
On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:07 AM, HansBKK wrote: The critical difference is between collecting files for your own personal use, and publishing ones when you're ready to share a topic domain with others. I've spent so much time creating navigation/scaffolding in TW for different topic domains I've resolved not to do so anymore, until I've become so familiar with the topic I know I'm approaching the ability to do it once and for all which of course is never really true, just relative to starting from scratch. I've found TagglyTagging to be extremely powerful and extremely flexible. It provides for evolution, including periodic revision, as radical as required, of the structure/organization of tiddlers. I can start with only the vaguest idea of the components and their relations. Once I've done some seat-of-the-pants work I may--indeed, I will, *always*--get an insight that reflects a better understanding of the subject and requires a different structure. Renaming tags, creating new tags, and retagging take care of it, usually pretty quickly. Good luck--as you seem to realize--getting it down once and for all. I don't think reality allows any such thing. It is itself in constant evolution. Regards, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] perceived status of TW as project - actively maintained or not?
On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:55 PM, HansBKK wrote: And just to show my hubris knows no bounds, here's my top wishlist item in the external tiddler family, I think it's pretty low-hanging fruit with a huge series of follow-on benefits: When I click on that link, Hans, I'm sent to the top-level Google Groups page. Or is something like that you top wish list item? -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net The invincible shield of caring Is a weapon sent from the sky against being dead. - Tao Te Ching 67 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] On Leaving BT and Osmosoft
On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I'm hoping that through consulting I'll be able to work with a wider range of people who are interested in TiddlyWiki, TiddlyWeb and TiddlySpace. I also intend to focus some much needed time on TiddlyWiki. I've started work on improving the content of tiddlywiki.com, and am starting work on replacing the TiddlyWiki build tools cook and ginsu with a more flexible toolchain based on node.js. Once those two bits of infrastructure are in place then I'll pick up TiddlyWiki5 again. I'm enjoying this work immensely; one of the frustrating consequences of my position at BT was that I couldn't spend much time coding. Glad to hear you're sticking with TiddlyWiki. It's a great app whose potential remains to be realized. So few know of it. I wonder also about possibilities for addressing what seems to me to be a major shortcoming, one that is a factor in its not being better known or as widely used as it should be: Documentation. Without question there are technical writers who, working with a core of TiddlyWiki's amazingly creative and resourceful developer/users, could produce what is needed, something to help newcomers get started and serve as a reference and guide to established nonprogrammer users. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. - Zygmunt Bauman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Check out my new TiddlyWiki...
On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote: You might get ideas from this TiddlyWiki I created to organize the notes I want to share with others. It is called the NoteStorm Christian database. For the moment it is mostly New Testament information (since I teach that subject). http://www.giffmex.org/nsdb.html I like the way you get the machinery out of the way and put the focus on content. Do you see NoteStorm as primarily a presentation device or as supporting thinking/composing/organizing/problem solving? E.g., do you see it as having advantages over other implementations of TiddlyWiki for the latter? Regards, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. - Zygmunt Bauman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] ImportTiddlers not working on Firefox?
On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Himanshu wrote: Updated Firefox recently (Mac OSX 10.7, Firefox stable 6.0.1) and just discovered that Eric's ImportTiddlers plugin does not work. All I get is either '0 tiddlers' or '1 tiddler', which might be the URL itself (the behaviour expected if the file is not correctly formatted) Searching through the groups, I tried the following suggestions: - Disabled the plugin and used the bookmarklets version (http:// tiddlytools.com/#InstantBookmarklets) - Didn't work - Reinstalled the plugin - Didn't work So I got rid of the plugin altogether, and tried using Tiddlywiki core's implementation of import tiddlers. To my surprise, that didn't work either. Both - the core and the plugin work perfectly in Safari If you got the plugin to work -- i.e., not the bookmarklet -- I'd be very interested in learning how you did it. This is the only plugin that has never worked for me, and I've not been able to get any help with it. Indeed, I alienated the list with my pleas for help. [I am not any kind of programmer.] The bookmarklet works fine. I wish the plugin did. -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. - Zygmunt Bauman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki version 2.6.3 released
On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Julio wrote: I also get worried when this thinking surfaces and get curious as to why. Maybe it can better help us in our tw quest... Sometimes as humans we tend to become very disenchanted when our creativity or the ability to do so dwindles. I'm not saying that this is the case, however. It is best to step back and reassess the situation. Even walk away from it all together for a bit , but with intentions of coming back and exploring further. I don't post much, but I'll say this, ever since I started using or rather fiddling around with TW as work and life do not permit me to make a full commitment to it, it has been a frustratingly enjoyable ride this has been it. Sometimes I feel like yanking my hairs out as the saying goes, but I love it. TW is my primary go to note taking application. Even at work I use it as my primary source of personal info. Then again, I am not a creator or innovator...more of a cut-n-paste kinda dude. Late comer to this thread, as I'm a less frequent frequenter of the TW Google group than in the past. The above is my pretty much my situation. TW is an amazing piece of software. It's versatility and the creativity of its users and developers in creating plugins to take advantage of that versatility is impressive. A few years back, with a lot of help from Morris Gray, I was able to settle on an adaptation of Morris' TW-Treeview that meets most of my needs. That said, going back to my first encounter with TW, it took me at least a year of occasional fiddling to figure out how I might use it. For a few years I was the beneficiary of generous help from that impressive community in response to my utterly naive questions. Then, in my insensitive persistence in seeking and eventually demanding help with one particular issue, I managed to dry up the well. Though there is a work-around, that issue remains unresolved. The experience has convinced me that to make effective use of TW you have to be or be willing to become a programmer. The issue just mentioned aside, the things that can go wrong and that call for tweaking are endless. For the regulars here that is not an issue. For me it is. As a result, I've been seeking an alternative. I am beginning to think there isn't one, which speaks to TW's strengths, but makes its shortcomings all the more tragic. There is ferment in the world outside TW these days about tagging. I've been checking out the possibilities on offer. None comes close to the power of TagglyTagging. Again, what a tragedy. IMHO, the primary shortcoming of TW is the failure to address the needs and capabilities of the ordinary nonprogramming user. This has been known to be a problem for years, yet there has been no effort to address it. One last word: In one of my now infrequent posts here a while back, when users were struggling with an issue I recall being vaguely similar to the one currently being experienced with the new release, I asked whether anyone had given any thought to creating a browser specifically to run TW. Another incredibly naive question no doubt, but FWIW, there it is again. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: FireFox5
On Jun 26, 2011, at 7:05 PM, skye riquelme wrote: And they say they aren´t going to maintain FF4hope the TW find a way to get TW work with FF5!! It would be too much to hope that TW would find a way to work with Safari, e.g., ImportTiddlerPlugin and the absence of a file picker being things I find especially frustrating. That and the fact that no one in the TW community is willing to take them on. [I am not competent to do so myself. If I were I would help however I could.] I've been getting familiar with Vim the past few months. Today I installed a wiki plugin, Vimwiki. I seriously doubt it'll have the power or the versatility of TW. If it did Vim might provide a more robust, stable, and accommodating platform for a nonprogrammer like myself than the TW/browser combination. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: FireFox5
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Eric Weir wrote: TW would find a way to work with Safari Shoulda been that TW would find a way to get TW to work with Safari. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Dating of backups via BackupOptionsPlugin
On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:13 AM, PMario wrote: Just as an Info. I am using MPTW's LessBackupPlugin [1]. -m [1] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#LessBackupsPlugin Thanks. Two issues with it for me: I usually run my TWs in Safari, and the notes say it works only in IE and Firefox. Also, as I understand it, it executes saves on a defined schedule while I prefer executing the backup myself. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Alex Hough wrote: I also think that stories from people using TW would be interesting. I suspect that people have quite personal relationships with their TW, and they often contain private thoughts, so sharing can be a problem Late getting to this, Alex. Yes, I agree. Stories across the diversity of ways people use TW. I would exemplary uses. There are a few well-known ones already, e.g., Garret Lisi's Deferential Geometry http://deferentialgeometry.org/ and Elise Springer's Philosophy Department Homepage https://wesfiles.wesleyan.edu/home/espringer/web/ and Reasoning Well http://reasoningwell.tiddlyspot.com/ One idea would be to have how-tos spring off from such exemplary applications, i.e., responding to hypothetical how do I do that? questions. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Alex Hough wrote: What is needed is a writer who can put himself or herself in the position of a naive adopter. Or some kind of collaboration between newbie and a TW master? The writer might not be a TiddlyWiki devotee/expert. He/she might need to draw on the expertise of one or more people who are. [Very likely, it seems. If there was someone with both competencies surely by now we would have seen evidence of it, e.g., in the form of book?] Over on the TiddlyDev someone (whatever I think) has offered payment to encourage documentation. Perhaps documentation can develop this way? Yes, especially if, as seems to be the case, no one with the ability has offered to do the job out of pure love for TW. I hang about in a business school quite a bit. A question the types that live there would be asking questions like: Who would benefit from the type of documentation you seek? What is the purpose in attracting more users anyway? Where is the 'value'? Where is the funding coming from? More fundamentally, not, Who would benefit from that type of documentation? but, Who would want to use an application like that? Your suggestion of presenting stories of interesting applications ought to address that question. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:14 PM, PMario wrote: On Apr 19, 6:26 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that stories from people using TW would be interesting. I suspect that people have quite personal relationships with their TW, and they often contain private thoughts, so sharing can be a problem http://interview.tiddlyspace.com/ may be interesting about this. Thanks for this. Didn't know about it. Can't take it in all at once, but over time I'd like to do so. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Alex Hough wrote: What is needed is a writer who can put himself or herself in the position of a naive adopter. Or some kind of collaboration between newbie and a TW master? The writer might not be a TiddlyWiki devotee/expert. He/she might need to draw on the expertise of one or more people who are. [Very likely, it seems. If there was someone with both competencies surely by now we would have seen evidence of it, e.g., in the form of book?] Over on the TiddlyDev someone (whatever I think) has offered payment to encourage documentation. Perhaps documentation can develop this way? Yes, especially if, as seems to be the case, no one with the ability has offered to do the job out of pure love for TW. I hang about in a business school quite a bit. A question the types that live there would be asking questions like: Who would benefit from the type of documentation you seek? What is the purpose in attracting more users anyway? Where is the 'value'? Where is the funding coming from? More fundamentally, not, Who would benefit from that type of documentation? but, Who would want to use an application like that? Your suggestion of presenting stories of interesting applications ought to address that question. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 20, 2011, at 5:14 PM, PMario wrote: I think TW makes it sometimes too easy to tweak allmost every aspect of the program. And since it is possible, it is done. __With many other tools, you just couldn't do it__, so you have to get used to the tools behaviour. I would say that while TW is amazingly flexible/configurable/adaptable taking advantage of that flexibility/adaptability is not easy for nonprogrammers. At least some of us. Then there are people like Måns, who take to it like a fish takes to water. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Dating of backups via BackupOptionsPlugin
I've been meaning to ask for help on this for a long time: When I do a backup via BackupOptionsPlugin the date is off by one month and the time by four hours, e.g.: A backup of my contacts TW made at today [April 25] at 12:11 PM has this in the file: tw-blackicity-lite-contacts.20110325.1611. How can this be corrected? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 25, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I would exemplary uses. Shoulda been I would add 'exemplary' uses. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
