Re: tomcat caching issue

2005-09-30 Thread Tim Funk
Based on everything written so far - there is no evidence tomcat would be 
chaching anything.


I'd suggest placing as much debug code in your code as possible via a logging 
pacakge such as log4j/commons-logging so the log information can be turned on 
via configuration directives.


-Tim

Santosh Asbe wrote:


Hi All,

I need your help for this problem very urgently.

I have tomcat 4.1.30 on Linux. It servers as a web server and contains only
JSP  Servlets. We make a remote call to Websphere Application Server ( on
AIX) using corbaloc like 'corbaloc::ip1:2809:ip2:2809'. Now when i one of my
App server fails, the other App Server server should take over. This work
when i use a simple java client on the Linux machine, the failover occurs.
But when i use my application in tomcat, this does not work.
I am using a Service locator ( singleton) which makes the initial call to
App Server and stores in the ip cache. initially we that the issue was with
the Service locator, but then even if i don't use this Service Locator, the
problem persists.

We have talked to IBM and they say that the tomcat does some caching and the
problem is not with the App Server. Has anyone faced this issue? Can anyone
help regarding this and how can i know how and where the caching is done?
Can this issue be resolved.

If any other information is required, i will be glad to provide with the
same.



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tomcat caching issue

2005-09-29 Thread Santosh Asbe
Hi All,

I need your help for this problem very urgently.

I have tomcat 4.1.30 on Linux. It servers as a web server and contains only
JSP  Servlets. We make a remote call to Websphere Application Server ( on
AIX) using corbaloc like 'corbaloc::ip1:2809:ip2:2809'. Now when i one of my
App server fails, the other App Server server should take over. This work
when i use a simple java client on the Linux machine, the failover occurs.
But when i use my application in tomcat, this does not work.
I am using a Service locator ( singleton) which makes the initial call to
App Server and stores in the ip cache. initially we that the issue was with
the Service locator, but then even if i don't use this Service Locator, the
problem persists.

We have talked to IBM and they say that the tomcat does some caching and the
problem is not with the App Server. Has anyone faced this issue? Can anyone
help regarding this and how can i know how and where the caching is done?
Can this issue be resolved.

If any other information is required, i will be glad to provide with the
same.


regards,

Santosh Asbe




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Image caching how to

2005-09-07 Thread Arun Prasad R
how to enable image caching in tomcat?

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Caching static content - Bug in Filter implementation?

2005-07-07 Thread juergen . dufner
Hello

I do some further analysis in this problem and got following result:

Precondition: The filter manipulates the HTTP header when returning a
static resource (e.g. image).

HTTP 200
In case of a HTTP 200 (OK) result the header is not added when the doFilter
method is like following:

filterChain.doFilter(request, response);
response.setHeader(name, value);


In contrast to it works when the code is like following:

response.setHeader(name, value);
filterChain.doFilter(request, response);


In other words: When returning a HTTP 200 (OK) I must set the header before
forwarding the request to the next filter.

HTTP 304
In this case it doesn't mention whether setting the header is before or
after forwarding the request.

Any comments?

Jürgen Dufner


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Re: Caching static content - Bug in Filter implementation?

2005-07-07 Thread Jon Wingfield
I think that's expected behaviour: You can't set headers after the 
response has been committed (more body data has been written to the 
outputstream than the buffer size).


In the case of the 200 response code the call to 
filterChain.doFilter(...) actually serves the content. Setting of the 
header after this is too late.


Jon

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Hello

I do some further analysis in this problem and got following result:

Precondition: The filter manipulates the HTTP header when returning a
static resource (e.g. image).

HTTP 200
In case of a HTTP 200 (OK) result the header is not added when the doFilter
method is like following:

filterChain.doFilter(request, response);
response.setHeader(name, value);


In contrast to it works when the code is like following:

response.setHeader(name, value);
filterChain.doFilter(request, response);


In other words: When returning a HTTP 200 (OK) I must set the header before
forwarding the request to the next filter.

HTTP 304
In this case it doesn't mention whether setting the header is before or
after forwarding the request.

Any comments?

Jürgen Dufner


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Caching static content

2005-07-06 Thread juergen . dufner
Hello

How to set the HTTP-Header Cache-Control:max-age=3600 in the Response of an
image file?

Here I will describe what I did:

I implemented a  Filter that added the header
  response.setHeader(Cache-Control, max-age=3600);

This works, but not in every case. The first request for an image, that
return HTTP Code 200 (OK) and the image itself, the header is NOT set. The
second or third request for the same image return Code 304 (Not modified),
the header contains Cache-Control:max-age=3600.

Is there a dependency to the HTTP return code? How to supress the second
and third requests?

Regards,
Jürgen Dufner



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Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

2005-06-22 Thread Øyvind Johansen
Hello!

Our web-application uses a combination of JSP-pages and a controller
servlet. When viewing these pages with Internet Explorer weird things tend
to happen. I found out that if Internet Explorers caching is set to
automatic checking for newer versions on the server everything goes wrong.
Instead of sending requests to the servlet, IE just simply takes an answer
from its cache, and thus presenting the wrong results. When changing the
setting to always the problem disappears.

Now, telling every user to change this setting would require almost as much
work as convincing them that Firefox and/or Opera are much better. So, are
there any ways to tell IE that it shouldn't cache my servlet/jsp-pages?

Regards,

Øyvind Johansen
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RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

2005-06-22 Thread Allistair Crossley
Hi,

Not an answer as such, but all our dev machines (and we do LOTS of changes per 
5 minutes) have Automatically switched on, and we don't experience this problem.

Like I say, not a solution, but perhaps you are looking in the wrong direction.

Cheers, Allistair.

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 From: Øyvind Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 June 2005 11:11
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching
 
 
 Hello!
 
 Our web-application uses a combination of JSP-pages and a controller
 servlet. When viewing these pages with Internet Explorer 
 weird things tend
 to happen. I found out that if Internet Explorers caching is set to
 automatic checking for newer versions on the server 
 everything goes wrong.
 Instead of sending requests to the servlet, IE just simply 
 takes an answer
 from its cache, and thus presenting the wrong results. When 
 changing the
 setting to always the problem disappears.
 
 Now, telling every user to change this setting would require 
 almost as much
 work as convincing them that Firefox and/or Opera are much 
 better. So, are
 there any ways to tell IE that it shouldn't cache my 
 servlet/jsp-pages?
 
 Regards,
 
 Øyvind Johansen
 ElectricTimeCar
 
 
 
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RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

2005-06-22 Thread Øyvind Johansen
You may be right, but I think it's just our weird way of combining
jsp/servlets with a magnet card reader that takes IE off guard. 

Heres a typical example: 

User uses his user card on our magnet card reader. 
The reader tells our client (which implements IE through an ActiveX control,
don’t ask why).
The reader creates an URL which sends the card information to a servlet as a
parameter. Ie /Servler?paramname=paramval.
The servlet handles the request and determines where the users should go (1
page for normal users, another for admins etc).

When Automaticly is set, this makes IE return the page of the last user that
was successfully using the server (in which IE saved these pages in the
cache). This means that user A may get the admin interface even though he
isn't an administrator.

In the web-application log, nothing happens when this behaviour shows
itself. The web-app always logs all user-logins, and the lack of this proves
that IE simply isn't sending the request to the server...

Did it become clearer?

-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sendt: 22. juni 2005 12:09
Til: Tomcat Users List
Emne: RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

Hi,

Not an answer as such, but all our dev machines (and we do LOTS of changes
per 5 minutes) have Automatically switched on, and we don't experience this
problem.

Like I say, not a solution, but perhaps you are looking in the wrong
direction.

Cheers, Allistair.

 -Original Message-
 From: Øyvind Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 June 2005 11:11
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching
 
 
 Hello!
 
 Our web-application uses a combination of JSP-pages and a controller
 servlet. When viewing these pages with Internet Explorer 
 weird things tend
 to happen. I found out that if Internet Explorers caching is set to
 automatic checking for newer versions on the server 
 everything goes wrong.
 Instead of sending requests to the servlet, IE just simply 
 takes an answer
 from its cache, and thus presenting the wrong results. When 
 changing the
 setting to always the problem disappears.
 
 Now, telling every user to change this setting would require 
 almost as much
 work as convincing them that Firefox and/or Opera are much 
 better. So, are
 there any ways to tell IE that it shouldn't cache my 
 servlet/jsp-pages?
 
 Regards,
 
 Øyvind Johansen
 ElectricTimeCar
 
 
 
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RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

2005-06-22 Thread Maarten Janssen
hi,

A solution is after submit clear a User object from the session, than
identifies the user and put a User object in a session and always check on
every page and action if User object exists in the session.

regards,

Maarten

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Van: Øyvind Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: woensdag 22 juni 2005 12:39
Aan: 'Tomcat Users List'
Onderwerp: RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching


You may be right, but I think it's just our weird way of combining
jsp/servlets with a magnet card reader that takes IE off guard.

Heres a typical example:

User uses his user card on our magnet card reader.
The reader tells our client (which implements IE through an ActiveX control,
don’t ask why).
The reader creates an URL which sends the card information to a servlet as a
parameter. Ie /Servler?paramname=paramval.
The servlet handles the request and determines where the users should go (1
page for normal users, another for admins etc).

When Automaticly is set, this makes IE return the page of the last user that
was successfully using the server (in which IE saved these pages in the
cache). This means that user A may get the admin interface even though he
isn't an administrator.

In the web-application log, nothing happens when this behaviour shows
itself. The web-app always logs all user-logins, and the lack of this proves
that IE simply isn't sending the request to the server...

Did it become clearer?

-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. juni 2005 12:09
Til: Tomcat Users List
Emne: RE: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

Hi,

Not an answer as such, but all our dev machines (and we do LOTS of changes
per 5 minutes) have Automatically switched on, and we don't experience this
problem.

Like I say, not a solution, but perhaps you are looking in the wrong
direction.

Cheers, Allistair.

 -Original Message-
 From: Øyvind Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 June 2005 11:11
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching


 Hello!

 Our web-application uses a combination of JSP-pages and a controller
 servlet. When viewing these pages with Internet Explorer
 weird things tend
 to happen. I found out that if Internet Explorers caching is set to
 automatic checking for newer versions on the server
 everything goes wrong.
 Instead of sending requests to the servlet, IE just simply
 takes an answer
 from its cache, and thus presenting the wrong results. When
 changing the
 setting to always the problem disappears.

 Now, telling every user to change this setting would require
 almost as much
 work as convincing them that Firefox and/or Opera are much
 better. So, are
 there any ways to tell IE that it shouldn't cache my
 servlet/jsp-pages?

 Regards,

 Øyvind Johansen
 ElectricTimeCar



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Re: Tomcat and Internet Explorers caching

2005-06-22 Thread Patrick Thomas
Hi Øyvind,

This works quite well for me. Place the following magic incantation at
the *end* of your JSP. Specifically, place it after the closing body
tag, but before the closing html tag. In context it looks like this:

/body
!-- Hack to disable IE caching --
head
  meta HTTP-EQUIV=PRAGMA CONTENT=NO-CACHE
/head
!-- end no-cache hack --
/html

Why at the end? I dunno. Maybe someone on the list who has the answer
on tap would chime in?

Hope this helps.
~PST

On 6/22/05, Øyvind Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Our web-application uses a combination of JSP-pages and a controller
 servlet. When viewing these pages with Internet Explorer weird things tend
 to happen. I found out that if Internet Explorers caching is set to
 automatic checking for newer versions on the server everything goes wrong.
 Instead of sending requests to the servlet, IE just simply takes an answer
 from its cache, and thus presenting the wrong results. When changing the
 setting to always the problem disappears.
 
 Now, telling every user to change this setting would require almost as much
 work as convincing them that Firefox and/or Opera are much better. So, are
 there any ways to tell IE that it shouldn't cache my servlet/jsp-pages?
 
 Regards,
 
 Øyvind Johansen
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Re: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Didier McGillis
A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled from 
the database, but is infrequently changed

From: QM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:19:28 -0600
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
: Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?
That's awful vague ;)
What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?
Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
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RE: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Benussi
If you are caching content, e.g. pages I would recommend using XSL to
transform the data into html, or jsp if you need. At startup and then
whenever it is changed.

For data, implement a persistence pattern (Data extends BaseData class,
Persistence extends BasePersistence class). Then for any data you want to
cache extend the BaseData to override the CRUD methods to hold data in a
Hashtable by key lookup (Assuming your data can be looked up using a single
key). Implement a time to live Timer (Say an hour) and then every time your
data is read, update its time stamp for the timer to ignore.

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Sent: 29 March 2005 14:17
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern

A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled from

the database, but is infrequently changed

From: QM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:19:28 -0600

On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
: Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?

That's awful vague ;)

What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?

Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
scratch.

-QM

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RE: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Didier McGillis
Are there any good examples of this?
From: Mark Benussi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: caching pattern
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:54:24 +0100
If you are caching content, e.g. pages I would recommend using XSL to
transform the data into html, or jsp if you need. At startup and then
whenever it is changed.
For data, implement a persistence pattern (Data extends BaseData class,
Persistence extends BasePersistence class). Then for any data you want to
cache extend the BaseData to override the CRUD methods to hold data in a
Hashtable by key lookup (Assuming your data can be looked up using a single
key). Implement a time to live Timer (Say an hour) and then every time your
data is read, update its time stamp for the timer to ignore.
-Original Message-
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Sent: 29 March 2005 14:17
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern
A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled 
from

the database, but is infrequently changed
From: QM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:19:28 -0600

On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
: Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?

That's awful vague ;)

What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?

Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
scratch.

-QM

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RE: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Benussi
The content or the data?

-Original Message-
From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 March 2005 15:59
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: caching pattern

Are there any good examples of this?

From: Mark Benussi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: caching pattern
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:54:24 +0100

If you are caching content, e.g. pages I would recommend using XSL to
transform the data into html, or jsp if you need. At startup and then
whenever it is changed.

For data, implement a persistence pattern (Data extends BaseData class,
Persistence extends BasePersistence class). Then for any data you want to
cache extend the BaseData to override the CRUD methods to hold data in a
Hashtable by key lookup (Assuming your data can be looked up using a single
key). Implement a time to live Timer (Say an hour) and then every time your
data is read, update its time stamp for the timer to ignore.

-Original Message-
From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 March 2005 14:17
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: caching pattern

A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled 
from

the database, but is infrequently changed

 From: QM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: caching pattern
 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:19:28 -0600
 
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
 : Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?
 
 That's awful vague ;)
 
 What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?
 
 Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
 use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
 scratch.
 
 -QM
 
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RE: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Didier McGillis
data, or as they say in new england datur
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The content or the data?
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Are there any good examples of this?
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:54:24 +0100

If you are caching content, e.g. pages I would recommend using XSL to
transform the data into html, or jsp if you need. At startup and then
whenever it is changed.

For data, implement a persistence pattern (Data extends BaseData class,
Persistence extends BasePersistence class). Then for any data you want to
cache extend the BaseData to override the CRUD methods to hold data in a
Hashtable by key lookup (Assuming your data can be looked up using a 
single
key). Implement a time to live Timer (Say an hour) and then every time 
your
data is read, update its time stamp for the timer to ignore.

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Subject: Re: caching pattern

A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled
from

the database, but is infrequently changed

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 On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
 : Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?
 
 That's awful vague ;)
 
 What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?
 
 Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
 use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
 scratch.
 
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RE: caching pattern

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Benussi
Ill put something together and send it to you, not the list as I think
people mind large files being posted.

Will try and get it out by 5pm BST

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data, or as they say in new england datur

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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:01:08 +0100

The content or the data?

-Original Message-
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To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: caching pattern

Are there any good examples of this?

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 Subject: RE: caching pattern
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:54:24 +0100
 
 If you are caching content, e.g. pages I would recommend using XSL to
 transform the data into html, or jsp if you need. At startup and then
 whenever it is changed.
 
 For data, implement a persistence pattern (Data extends BaseData class,
 Persistence extends BasePersistence class). Then for any data you want to
 cache extend the BaseData to override the CRUD methods to hold data in a
 Hashtable by key lookup (Assuming your data can be looked up using a 
single
 key). Implement a time to live Timer (Say an hour) and then every time 
your
 data is read, update its time stamp for the timer to ignore.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 March 2005 14:17
 To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: caching pattern
 
 A listing of some names, and some static content, the content is pulled
 from
 
 the database, but is infrequently changed
 
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  Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:19:28 -0600
  
  On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
  : Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?
  
  That's awful vague ;)
  
  What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?
  
  Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
  use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
  scratch.
  
  -QM
  
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caching pattern

2005-03-28 Thread Didier McGillis
Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?  I left my tomcat 
book elsewhere and feel lost.


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Re: caching pattern

2005-03-28 Thread QM
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 04:47:30PM +, Didier McGillis wrote:
: Im looking for an idea of how to setup a caching pattern?

That's awful vague ;)

What sort of caching?  Content, data, other?

Depending on what you're trying to do, and your desire/willingness to
use third-party tools, you may not have to write it yourself from
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Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Asfand Qazi
Hi,

Basically here's my problem: I make a jsp page that works correctly. 
OK.  Then, I make a fault in it that shows a compile error page -
also fine.

The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me the
old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile error
message again!

I have to wait 5 seconds for the correct error page to be displayed. 
If I click on refresh in less than 5 seconds after the previous
refresh, it gives me the old compiled page without the errors in it.

Note its not a web browser cache problem, or a proxy problem - that
much is certain.

Here's a thread at the Sun forums I have already posted to about this
issue:

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=607293tstart=0

Please peruse it, as the people there went through many stages with
me that I'm sure will help save you time in solving my problem.

Thanks,
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Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Jason Bainbridge
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:45:07 + (GMT), Asfand Qazi
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 Hi,
 
 Basically here's my problem: I make a jsp page that works correctly.
 OK.  Then, I make a fault in it that shows a compile error page -
 also fine.
 
 The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me the
 old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile error
 message again!
 
 I have to wait 5 seconds for the correct error page to be displayed.
 If I click on refresh in less than 5 seconds after the previous
 refresh, it gives me the old compiled page without the errors in it.

Try adding:

init-param
param-namemodificationTestInterval/param-name
param-value0/param-value
 /init-param

to your definition of the JSP servlet in %TOMCAT_HOM#%\conf\web.xml

By default it is 4 seconds but I'm not sure why the compile would fail
once and then start  working again...

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RE: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Asfand Qazi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't
 
 The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me the
 old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile error
 message again!

Please include the exact Tomcat level in problem descriptions, so people will 
have some idea of which documentation pages to tell you to read.

Here's some to look at that may have some bearing on the issue, and specific 
parameters on each:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html
cacheTTL
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/loader.html
checkInterval

Also look at the various parameters for the jsp servlet in conf/web.xml, since 
that controls how compilations are done.

 - Chuck


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Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Asfand Qazi

 
 Try adding:
 
 init-param
 param-namemodificationTestInterval/param-name
 param-value0/param-value
  /init-param
 
 to your definition of the JSP servlet in %TOMCAT_HOM#%\conf\web.xml
 
 By default it is 4 seconds but I'm not sure why the compile would
 fail
 once and then start  working again...
 

It didn't start working again it simply used the old compiled
page.

I'll try the above - thanks.

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RE: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Asfand Qazi
 
 Please include the exact Tomcat level in problem descriptions, so
 people will have some idea of which documentation pages to tell you
 to read.

5.7

 
 Here's some to look at that may have some bearing on the issue, and
 specific parameters on each:
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html
   cacheTTL
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/loader.html
   checkInterval

Thanks

 
 Also look at the various parameters for the jsp servlet in
 conf/web.xml, since that controls how compilations are done.
 
  - Chuck

Its just that this problem seems like a bug to me - I mean, if a page
is updated and compiles badly, what design features would load a
version of the page from a previous compilation?

Thanks for the pointers, I'm checking them out.

 
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Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Asfand Qazi
--- Asfand Qazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Try adding:
  
  init-param
  param-namemodificationTestInterval/param-name
  param-value0/param-value
   /init-param
  
  to your definition of the JSP servlet in
 %TOMCAT_HOM#%\conf\web.xml
  
  By default it is 4 seconds but I'm not sure why the compile would
  fail
  once and then start  working again...
  
 
 It didn't start working again it simply used the old compiled
 page.
 
 I'll try the above - thanks.
 

Still no luck, I'm afraid... the same behaviour is exhibited.

And yes, I did restart it :-)



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Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Asfand Qazi wrote:
Basically here's my problem: I make a jsp page that works correctly. 
OK.  Then, I make a fault in it that shows a compile error page -
also fine.

The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me the
old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile error
message again!
Yep, I've seen this too, on 5.5.7 -- hadn't spent any real time on
it, but...
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html
cacheTTL
..the above sounds like a likely candidate, since it's obviously not
related to initial *loading* of changed classes.
Please post back the results of your testing :-)
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RE: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Ramu, Vinod
All the compiled JSP servlet classes are stored under
jakarta-tomcat-5.5.4\work\Catalina\localhost\yourwebcontext. Please
check the timestamp of the compiled file. If you think that it's a old
file then I would delete the context directory under
jakarta-tomcat-5.5.4\work\Catalina\localhost\ as this directory
structure will be recreated during page compilation phase.

I agree that it should refresh automatically. But, if it's not working
you may wish to try this.

Vinod

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:11 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't


Asfand Qazi wrote:

 Basically here's my problem: I make a jsp page that works correctly.
 OK.  Then, I make a fault in it that shows a compile error page -
 also fine.
 
 The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me the 
 old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile error 
 message again!

Yep, I've seen this too, on 5.5.7 -- hadn't spent any real time on it,
but...

 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html
   cacheTTL

..the above sounds like a likely candidate, since it's obviously not
related to initial *loading* of changed classes.

Please post back the results of your testing :-)

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Re: Problem with Tomcat caching old pages that it shouldn't

2005-03-16 Thread Asfand Qazi

--- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Asfand Qazi wrote:
 
  Basically here's my problem: I make a jsp page that works
 correctly. 
  OK.  Then, I make a fault in it that shows a compile error page -
  also fine.
  
  The problem is, when I reload it a second time, Tomcat serves me
 the
  old compiled JSP scriptlet, instead of giving me the compile
 error
  message again!
 
 Yep, I've seen this too, on 5.5.7 -- hadn't spent any real time on
 it, but...
 
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html
  cacheTTL
 
 ..the above sounds like a likely candidate, since it's obviously
 not
 related to initial *loading* of changed classes.
 
 Please post back the results of your testing :-)
 

I tried placing it within the context tag both in
TOMCAT_HOME/conf/context.html as well as in
MY_WEB_APP/META-INF/context.xml.

Neither had any effect whatsoever.

I've also tried setting cachingAllowed to false, again in both
locations, but no luck.

I'm stuck.  I'll just work around this bug, but I have spent a whole
day chasing it down.

Thanks for the info, you'res is the first reply I've had that lets me
know I'm not an idiot who can't understand configuration directives
properly :-)

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tomcat caching servlet conf directory?

2005-03-07 Thread William Norris
I am working on writing some junit tests for a project and am running
into some rather odd behavior... it seems that tomcat is caching the
servlets configuration data somewhere between tests.  Here's what I'm
doing...

Presently I have one TestCase class with two methods, let's call them
testA() and testB().  Each method first copies a config directory into
place inside the servlet's webapps folder.  It then creates a new
Embedded object, configures it with a custom connector I created, and
starts up Tomcat.  I then pass in a fabricated HTTP request and check
the result against the expected response.

These two particular tests happen to use the same servlet
configuration, so to verify that things are acting weird, I changed
testA() to copy in a non-working configuration.  If I run testA()
first, then it fails as expected.  However, if I run testB() first and
then testA() then both tests pass, verifying that testA is in fact
using the leftover configuration from testB.  I've additionally
printed out the contents of the servlet's configuration directory
AFTER copying the contents over, but BEFORE starting up tomcat to
ensure the new configuration data is actually being copied over...
which it is.  Finally, I tried deleting the entire work/ directory
between tests to ensure nothing was being cached in there.

At this point, I'm somewhat at a loss.  There appear to be no caches
on the filesystem, and because I'm starting with a new Embedded object
for each method, there shouldn't be any caches in memory.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: tomcat caching servlet conf directory?

2005-03-07 Thread Will Norris
okay... so disregard this.  It turns out the servlet was parsing the
configuration document into a static variable that was not being reset
between tests.  All is well with the world again.

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tomcat caching problem

2005-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
I geerate in a Struts Action servlet a file that I want to open directly in a 
new browser.
I give tomcat the right url and the file is properly generated.
But tomcat does not see it.
after shoutdown and restart Tomcat start to see the file.That's for sure not 
what I want.
Actually I've done this kind of code in my action servlet
response.setContentType(text/richtext);
response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-cache); //HTTP 1.1
response.setHeader(Pragma,no-cache); //HTTP 1.0
response.setDateHeader (Expires, 0); //prevents caching at 
the proxy server

Nothing change!
Help!




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tomcat caching problem

2005-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
I geerate in a Struts Action servlet a file that I want to open directly in a 
new browser.
I give tomcat the right url and the file is properly generated.
But tomcat does not see it.
after shoutdown and restart Tomcat start to see the file.That's for sure not 
what I want.
Actually I've done this kind of code in my action servlet
response.setContentType(text/richtext);
response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-cache); //HTTP 1.1
response.setHeader(Pragma,no-cache); //HTTP 1.0
response.setDateHeader (Expires, 0); //prevents caching at the proxy server

Nothing change!
Help!





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Re: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-13 Thread Brian McEntire
Ouch.  ;)
That was it. We searched through all the JSPs and fixed that in several 
places. The problems are greatly reduced now. Thank you very much!

Is there any analog to this in Servlets? Is there a clearly incorrect 
way variables could be scoped in the a Servlet that could lead to the same 
thing?

The developer, within the JSPs, has a couple lines like:
jsp:useBean id=statehsaBean class=postgres.PostgreSQLBean 
scope=page /

And since we are still experiencing the problem (though much less), I 
wonder if the Servlets now have some similar global variable problem.

Thanks again!
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Tim Funk wrote:
The code below is a disaster. It creates a variable called result at the 
servlet instance level. This means that 2 concurrent requests to that JSP 
page will cause the page to fail. I didn't read the reast of the code - 
because that line is so evil - that ... well I'm speechless.

Change it to:
%
   ResultSet result;
%
-Tim
Brian McEntire wrote:
Looking at one of the problematic JSP pages, I see (snippets):
%!
ResultSet result;
%
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Re: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-13 Thread Tim Funk
%! String myVar =;%
creates an instance myVar in the servlet. Only 1 instance of a given servlet 
is loaded at a time and many requests all execute the service() method 
concurrently.

%String myVar=;%
would create a variable in the scope of the _jspService() method. Which is 
thread safe.

jsp:useBean is thread safe. (Unless the variable is pulled from application 
or session scope)

-Tim
Brian McEntire wrote:
Ouch.  ;)
That was it. We searched through all the JSPs and fixed that in several 
places. The problems are greatly reduced now. Thank you very much!

Is there any analog to this in Servlets? Is there a clearly incorrect 
way variables could be scoped in the a Servlet that could lead to the 
same thing?

The developer, within the JSPs, has a couple lines like:
jsp:useBean id=statehsaBean class=postgres.PostgreSQLBean 
scope=page /

And since we are still experiencing the problem (though much less), I 
wonder if the Servlets now have some similar global variable problem.

Thanks again!
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Tim Funk wrote:
The code below is a disaster. It creates a variable called result at 
the servlet instance level. This means that 2 concurrent requests to 
that JSP page will cause the page to fail. I didn't read the reast of 
the code - because that line is so evil - that ... well I'm speechless.

Change it to:
%
   ResultSet result;
%
-Tim
Brian McEntire wrote:
Looking at one of the problematic JSP pages, I see (snippets):
%!
ResultSet result;
%
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RE: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-10 Thread Brian McEntire
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
My browser requested listByOwner.jsp but received
decodedDataChartContents.jsp. I expected listByOwner
but saw decodedDataChartContents.
One of the more common causes of this is inadvertent data sharing due to 
applications that aren't thread-safe.  Examine the app code for 
unprotected static fields, request-specific data stored in a session 
object, etc.

You should also try running the requests through Tomcat only (usually 
port 8080 unless you've disabled the normal http connector) to see if 
the problem stays with Tomcat or disappears when mod_jk is out of the 
picture.
I'm the (poor :) sys admin and I don't know much Java but I can read it at 
a beginner level. I'm working with the developer of this application. He 
doesn't know threads well but doesn't think his application uses any. He 
also says the application does not make use of sessions.

Looking at one of the problematic JSP pages, I see (snippets):
jsp:useBean id=state class=postgres.PostgreSQLBean scope=page /
%!
ResultSet result;
%
and
try {
  state.connectToDB(db.server.sanitized.gov);
if (state.isConnected())
result = state.executeQuery(SELECT owner_code 
FROM owner ORDER BY owner_code);
while (result.next()) {
%
option value=%= result.getString(1) %%= result.getString(1) %
%
}
state.closeStatement();
result.close();
state.closeConnection();
} catch (SQLException e) {
} catch (Exception e) {
}

- - -
That's all the Java / tags on the whole page. Do you see anything wrong 
with the scope of the variables, threads, or sessions?

* The other question I have: Does anyone know of a simple way to make 
Tomcat log accesses in a format like Apache's Combined Log format?

I wrote test plans in JMeter and a PERL script which can monitor the 
Apache access log in real time and show the success and failure of each 
request-response through Apache and mod_jk (based on the results of served 
JSPs having known sizes.)

I left the default Tomcat port open (for internal use) on port 8080 and I 
can access the JSPs that are having problems directly though Tomcat. This 
eliminates mod_jk and Apache for troubleshooting. The only problem is, 
this is an intermittent problem so it very difficult to judge improvement 
with out JMeter and the test script which needs a combined access log as 
input.

I'd be happy to share the PERL script with anyone interested. Contact me 
if you want it.

Thanks!
  Brian
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Re: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-10 Thread Tim Funk
The code below is a disaster. It creates a variable called result at the 
servlet instance level. This means that 2 concurrent requests to that JSP 
page will cause the page to fail. I didn't read the reast of the code - 
because that line is so evil - that ... well I'm speechless.

Change it to:
%
ResultSet result;
%
-Tim
Brian McEntire wrote:
Looking at one of the problematic JSP pages, I see (snippets):
%!
ResultSet result;
%
 
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Controlling caching / session collision

2005-01-07 Thread Brian McEntire
I am running Tomcat 5.0.28, mod_jk 1.2.8, and Apache/2.0.46 on Redhat 
Enterprise Linux WS 3.0.

We have an HTML page that is a frame: top (banner), left hand (menu), and 
right hand (main content). There are 6 hyperlinks in the LH pane that 
point to *.jsp pages that load in the RH pane via a
BASE TARGET=displayContents tag. Usually, these links work. 
But occasionally when clicking one link, content that belongs to another 
link appears in the main/RH pane. This problem seems to get worse the longer 
Tomcat is up.

The JSPs that we are using don't make use of sessions as far as I can 
tell. Logins are not required. The JSPs are only used to generate dynamic 
content and forms for submission.

I have tried setting the following in workers.properties:
  worker.workerHADS.socket_keepalive=FALSE
  worker.workerHADS.cache_timeout=60
  worker.workerHADS.cachesize=1
  worker.workerHADS.reclycle_timeout=30
I added this within the head/head section of each JSP:
  META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
  META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
But the problem still presents occasionally. It happens on Mozilla and IE 
browsers, and probably others. It looks like a server side issue. It is 
not 100% reproducible. It cannot be reproduced immediately after Tomcat is 
started. But after several hours (or possibly some number of visitors to 
the page) it starts to happen and gets more frequent over time.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
  Thanks, Brian
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Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-07 Thread Brian McEntire
This is a follow-up to my question. I hope someone might have seen this 
before. I don't know if this is a Tomcat, or mod_jk, or Apache issue, but 
since I've only seen it with JSPs, I think Tomcat or mod_jk factor in.

Here are entries from Apache's combined access log when the problem 
occurs:

192.168.1.1 - - [07/Jan/2005:18:01:36 -0500] GET 
/jsp/dipper/listByOwner.jsp HTTP/1.1 200 5601 - Java/1.4.2_06
192.168.1.1 - - [07/Jan/2005:18:01:36 -0500] GET 
/jsp/dipper/decodedDataChartContents.jsp HTTP/1.1 200 8503 - 
Java/1.4.2_06
192.168.1.1 - - [07/Jan/2005:18:02:09 -0500] GET 
/jsp/dipper/listByOwner.jsp HTTP/1.1 200 8503 
http://server-obscurred.gov/dipper/contents.html; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 
U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5

Those entries are slightly sanitized. The point is, in the first entry, 
the size of the response sent by Apache back to the client for 
listByOwner.jsp is correct at 5601. The correct size is sent back for 
decodedDataChartContents.jsp in the second entry at 8503.

The problem presented with the third request: Apache sent back the wrong 
response. My browser requested listByOwner.jsp but received 
decodedDataChartContents.jsp. I expected listByOwner but saw 
decodedDataChartContents. Apache's log shows that the response it served 
was the same size as decodedDataChartContents.jsp even though the request 
was for listByOwner.jsp.

Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas what would cause that or how to 
prevent it?

Thanks!
  Brian
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Brian McEntire wrote:
I am running Tomcat 5.0.28, mod_jk 1.2.8, and Apache/2.0.46 on Redhat 
Enterprise Linux WS 3.0.

We have an HTML page that is a frame: top (banner), left hand (menu), and 
right hand (main content). There are 6 hyperlinks in the LH pane that point 
to *.jsp pages that load in the RH pane via a
BASE TARGET=displayContents tag. Usually, these links work. But 
occasionally when clicking one link, content that belongs to another link 
appears in the main/RH pane. This problem seems to get worse the longer 
Tomcat is up.

The JSPs that we are using don't make use of sessions as far as I can tell. 
Logins are not required. The JSPs are only used to generate dynamic content 
and forms for submission.

I have tried setting the following in workers.properties:
 worker.workerHADS.socket_keepalive=FALSE
 worker.workerHADS.cache_timeout=60
 worker.workerHADS.cachesize=1
 worker.workerHADS.reclycle_timeout=30
I added this within the head/head section of each JSP:
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=-1
But the problem still presents occasionally. It happens on Mozilla and IE 
browsers, and probably others. It looks like a server side issue. It is not 
100% reproducible. It cannot be reproduced immediately after Tomcat is 
started. But after several hours (or possibly some number of visitors to the 
page) it starts to happen and gets more frequent over time.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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RE: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re: Controlling caching / session collision]

2005-01-07 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Brian McEntire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Apache returning different sizes for same request [was Re:
 Controlling caching / session collision]
 
 My browser requested listByOwner.jsp but received 
 decodedDataChartContents.jsp. I expected listByOwner 
 but saw decodedDataChartContents.

One of the more common causes of this is inadvertent data sharing due to 
applications that aren't thread-safe.  Examine the app code for unprotected 
static fields, request-specific data stored in a session object, etc.

You should also try running the requests through Tomcat only (usually port 8080 
unless you've disabled the normal http connector) to see if the problem stays 
with Tomcat or disappears when mod_jk is out of the picture.

 - Chuck


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Re: Mysterious (I think caching) Problem with IE 6 and Form Authentication under SSL (Tomcat 5.0.x)

2004-11-23 Thread Angel Cervera Claudio
I have same problem and i don't find any answer to resolved. :(
SOS!! :(
Did you resolved this problem? How?


El mar, 19-10-2004 a las 12:15 +0200, Martin Grüneberg escribió:
 Hello,
 
 I have a real strange Problem with Tomcat and IE
 When I get forwarded to the login page of my application and enter
 my account data I always get the following message:
 
 HTTP Status 408 - The time allowed for the login process has been exceeded.
 If you wish to continue you must either click back twice and re-click the
 link you requested or close and re-open your browser 
 
 But following the instructions does always result in the same errormessage.
 With every other browser even InternetExplores on other Machines (same
 version) I can login without any Problem.
 I think IE caches the error page somewhere because in the logfile the login
 is logged as success
 I tried everthing delete temporary internetfiles /cookies nothing worked!
 Funny is, when I copy the installation to an other machine (other
 hostname/ip) I can login with my IE without any Problem.
 
 If someone knows something about this problem, please give me a hint! 
 
 greetings
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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-22 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Steffen,
Thank you for your response.  I found that there is indeed a bug fro this
problem reported for the SUN JDK.  You can view it at:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4744405

It also seems that this bug has not yet been solved.  Its status is in
progress

This is a short version of the bug report:
Bug ID:  4744405  
Votes  17  
Synopsis  RFE: lookupPrintServices() to refresh the printers list
dynamically  
Category  java:classes_2d  
Reported Against  1.4 , 1.4.1  
Release Fixed   
State  In progress, request for enhancement  
Related Bugs  5028849 , 5033703  
Submit Date  10-SEP-2002  
Description  *This also happened on Windows platform.

java version 1.4.1-rc
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1-rc-b19)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1-rc-b19, mixed mode)

When invoke method lookupPrintServices() on class PrinterJob or
PrintServiceLookup, the printers list can not refreshed when adding or
deleting printers dynamically.

Steps to follow to reproduce the problem:
 1. Compile and run the included test case
 2. The print dialog shows up and avaible printers information is printed
out on screen. Click cancel to dismiss the dialog. The test case is
pending.
 3. Use Printer Selector Tool to add a new printer into selected printers
list and save changes.
 4. Back to the terminal that run the test case an click enter button to
continue. Then a new thread will be created to invoke the
lookupPrintServices() and pop up the print dialog again.
 5. The screen output shows that invoking lookupPrintServices() doesn't
reflect the newly added printer information, neither does the print dialog.

// source code begin---//
import java.awt.print.*;
import javax.print.*;

public class MTPrinterTest extends Thread {
public static void main(String[] args) {
MTPrinterTest t1 = new MTPrinterTest();
t1.start();

try {
System.in.read();
} catch (Exception e){}

MTPrinterTest t2 = new MTPrinterTest();
t2.start();
}
public void run() {
PrinterJob printerJob;
PrintService[] printServices;

printerJob = PrinterJob.getPrinterJob();
printServices = printerJob.lookupPrintServices();
System.out.println(Number of servies found:  +
printServices.length);
for (int i =0; i printServices.length; i++)
System.out.println(-- Available Printer  + i + :  +
printServices[i]);
printerJob.printDialog();
}  
}
// source code end --//
 
Work Around  Exit the current running application and run it again, then the
printers list get refreshed. Seems the running JVM can not get updated
printer information


-Original Message-
From: Steffen Heil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:25 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: AW: Servlet caching?

Hi

 If I write a java program to list the services and run the program from
the command line, I can see the newly added service right away.

Modify your program to list the services, wait one minute, list the services
again.
Install a printer in that time.
See, if the application reflects that change. If not, the Lookup is caching
information.

Regards,
  Steffen


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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
Note that this is an RFE, not a bug, so don't hold your breath, and
further that you can register an use your own PrintService SPI already
in JDK 1.4, and that's probably one reason the Sun folks aren't jumping
to implement this RFE.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com


-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:55 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Servlet caching?

Hi Steffen,
Thank you for your response.  I found that there is indeed a bug fro
this
problem reported for the SUN JDK.  You can view it at:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4744405

It also seems that this bug has not yet been solved.  Its status is in
progress

This is a short version of the bug report:
Bug ID:  4744405
Votes  17
Synopsis  RFE: lookupPrintServices() to refresh the printers list
dynamically
Category  java:classes_2d
Reported Against  1.4 , 1.4.1
Release Fixed
State  In progress, request for enhancement
Related Bugs  5028849 , 5033703
Submit Date  10-SEP-2002
Description  *This also happened on Windows platform.

java version 1.4.1-rc
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1-rc-b19)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1-rc-b19, mixed mode)

When invoke method lookupPrintServices() on class PrinterJob or
PrintServiceLookup, the printers list can not refreshed when adding or
deleting printers dynamically.

Steps to follow to reproduce the problem:
 1. Compile and run the included test case
 2. The print dialog shows up and avaible printers information is
printed
out on screen. Click cancel to dismiss the dialog. The test case is
pending.
 3. Use Printer Selector Tool to add a new printer into selected
printers
list and save changes.
 4. Back to the terminal that run the test case an click enter button
to
continue. Then a new thread will be created to invoke the
lookupPrintServices() and pop up the print dialog again.
 5. The screen output shows that invoking lookupPrintServices() doesn't
reflect the newly added printer information, neither does the print
dialog.

// source code begin---//
import java.awt.print.*;
import javax.print.*;

public class MTPrinterTest extends Thread {
public static void main(String[] args) {
MTPrinterTest t1 = new MTPrinterTest();
t1.start();

try {
System.in.read();
} catch (Exception e){}

MTPrinterTest t2 = new MTPrinterTest();
t2.start();
}
public void run() {
PrinterJob printerJob;
PrintService[] printServices;

printerJob = PrinterJob.getPrinterJob();
printServices = printerJob.lookupPrintServices();
System.out.println(Number of servies found:  +
printServices.length);
for (int i =0; i printServices.length; i++)
System.out.println(-- Available Printer  + i + :  +
printServices[i]);
printerJob.printDialog();
}
}
// source code end --//

Work Around  Exit the current running application and run it again,
then
the
printers list get refreshed. Seems the running JVM can not get updated
printer information


-Original Message-
From: Steffen Heil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:25 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: AW: Servlet caching?

Hi

 If I write a java program to list the services and run the program
from
the command line, I can see the newly added service right away.

Modify your program to list the services, wait one minute, list the
services
again.
Install a printer in that time.
See, if the application reflects that change. If not, the Lookup is
caching
information.

Regards,
  Steffen


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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-22 Thread Carlos Oliva
Thanks for your clarification.  At least the bug says Sate In progress ...


Let us hope...

-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:01 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Servlet caching?


Hi,
Note that this is an RFE, not a bug, so don't hold your breath, and
further that you can register an use your own PrintService SPI already
in JDK 1.4, and that's probably one reason the Sun folks aren't jumping
to implement this RFE.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:55 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Servlet caching?

Hi Steffen,
Thank you for your response.  I found that there is indeed a bug fro
this
problem reported for the SUN JDK.  You can view it at:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4744405

It also seems that this bug has not yet been solved.  Its status is in
progress

This is a short version of the bug report:
Bug ID:  4744405
Votes  17
Synopsis  RFE: lookupPrintServices() to refresh the printers list
dynamically
Category  java:classes_2d
Reported Against  1.4 , 1.4.1
Release Fixed
State  In progress, request for enhancement
Related Bugs  5028849 , 5033703
Submit Date  10-SEP-2002
Description  *This also happened on Windows platform.

java version 1.4.1-rc
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1-rc-b19)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1-rc-b19, mixed mode)

When invoke method lookupPrintServices() on class PrinterJob or
PrintServiceLookup, the printers list can not refreshed when adding or
deleting printers dynamically.

Steps to follow to reproduce the problem:
 1. Compile and run the included test case
 2. The print dialog shows up and avaible printers information is
printed
out on screen. Click cancel to dismiss the dialog. The test case is
pending.
 3. Use Printer Selector Tool to add a new printer into selected
printers
list and save changes.
 4. Back to the terminal that run the test case an click enter button
to
continue. Then a new thread will be created to invoke the
lookupPrintServices() and pop up the print dialog again.
 5. The screen output shows that invoking lookupPrintServices() doesn't
reflect the newly added printer information, neither does the print
dialog.

// source code begin---//
import java.awt.print.*;
import javax.print.*;

public class MTPrinterTest extends Thread {
public static void main(String[] args) {
MTPrinterTest t1 = new MTPrinterTest();
t1.start();

try {
System.in.read();
} catch (Exception e){}

MTPrinterTest t2 = new MTPrinterTest();
t2.start();
}
public void run() {
PrinterJob printerJob;
PrintService[] printServices;

printerJob = PrinterJob.getPrinterJob();
printServices = printerJob.lookupPrintServices();
System.out.println(Number of servies found:  +
printServices.length);
for (int i =0; i printServices.length; i++)
System.out.println(-- Available Printer  + i + :  +
printServices[i]);
printerJob.printDialog();
}
}
// source code end --//

Work Around  Exit the current running application and run it again,
then
the
printers list get refreshed. Seems the running JVM can not get updated
printer information


-Original Message-
From: Steffen Heil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:25 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: AW: Servlet caching?

Hi

 If I write a java program to list the services and run the program
from
the command line, I can see the newly added service right away.

Modify your program to list the services, wait one minute, list the
services
again.
Install a printer in that time.
See, if the application reflects that change. If not, the Lookup is
caching
information.

Regards,
  Steffen


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Mysterious (I think caching) Problem with IE 6 and Form Authentication under SSL (Tomcat 5.0.x)

2004-10-19 Thread Martin Grüneberg
Hello,

I have a real strange Problem with Tomcat and IE
When I get forwarded to the login page of my application and enter
my account data I always get the following message:

HTTP Status 408 - The time allowed for the login process has been exceeded.
If you wish to continue you must either click back twice and re-click the
link you requested or close and re-open your browser 

But following the instructions does always result in the same errormessage.
With every other browser even InternetExplores on other Machines (same
version) I can login without any Problem.
I think IE caches the error page somewhere because in the logfile the login
is logged as success
I tried everthing delete temporary internetfiles /cookies nothing worked!
Funny is, when I copy the installation to an other machine (other
hostname/ip) I can login with my IE without any Problem.

If someone knows something about this problem, please give me a hint! 

greetings
Martin Grüneberg



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Re: Servlet caching?

2004-10-15 Thread Jon Wingfield
One thing you might want to check is that whatever PrintService SPI 
implementation is looking up your printers doesn't cache the result for 
the lifetime of the JVM.
Does your command line app show new printers and then exit? If so, you 
might want to change it so you can:
1) list the printers
2) install the new printer while the app is still running
3) list the printers

I just did a (rather noddy) check on my workstation: I brought up the 
print dialog in JEdit and saw just one printer. I installed a new 
printer then opened the print dialog again and saw just one printer. I 
restarted JEdit and voila: two printers.
I assume JEdit is using the default PrintService discovery mechanism 
supplied by the JVM. On my workstation that's 
sun.print.Win32PrintServiceLookup as defined in META-INF/services.

If the default implementation is caching then you are out of luck unless 
you want to write your own PrintServiceLookup.

Jon
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,

I would think that after reloading the servlet all the
classes that it had used would cease to exist.  That is, any class that
had
been instantiated or used by the servlet would not remain instantiated
after
I reload the servlet.

Under most instances, but not all.  For example, if the library you're
using the find the list of printers is in common/lib or shared/lib, your
thought above is false.
Yoav

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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-15 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Jon,

I was arriving to the same conclusion.  The servlet and perhaps Tomcat is
caching the result of the PrintServiceLookup for the lifetime of the JVM.
If I write a java program to list the services and run the program from the
command line, I can see the newly added service right away.  This program is
working because it is exiting every time before restarting.

Do you know if unloading and reloading the PrintServiceLookup would clear
the cache of the services?  Is there any way to clear the cache without
having to terminate the instance of Tomcat?

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From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:04 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Servlet caching?

One thing you might want to check is that whatever PrintService SPI 
implementation is looking up your printers doesn't cache the result for 
the lifetime of the JVM.
Does your command line app show new printers and then exit? If so, you 
might want to change it so you can:
1) list the printers
2) install the new printer while the app is still running
3) list the printers

I just did a (rather noddy) check on my workstation: I brought up the 
print dialog in JEdit and saw just one printer. I installed a new 
printer then opened the print dialog again and saw just one printer. I 
restarted JEdit and voila: two printers.
I assume JEdit is using the default PrintService discovery mechanism 
supplied by the JVM. On my workstation that's 
sun.print.Win32PrintServiceLookup as defined in META-INF/services.

If the default implementation is caching then you are out of luck unless 
you want to write your own PrintServiceLookup.

Jon


Shapira, Yoav wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
I would think that after reloading the servlet all the
classes that it had used would cease to exist.  That is, any class that
 
 had
 
been instantiated or used by the servlet would not remain instantiated
after
I reload the servlet.
 
 
 Under most instances, but not all.  For example, if the library you're
 using the find the list of printers is in common/lib or shared/lib, your
 thought above is false.
 
 Yoav
 



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AW: Servlet caching?

2004-10-15 Thread Steffen Heil
Hi

 If I write a java program to list the services and run the program from
the command line, I can see the newly added service right away.

Modify your program to list the services, wait one minute, list the services
again.
Install a printer in that time.
See, if the application reflects that change. If not, the Lookup is caching
information.

Regards,
  Steffen


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Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Carlos
Do servlets in Tomcat (1.4) catch results of programs that they run?  I have
a java servlet that lists the print services of printers installed in the
server (Linux Red Hat).  I run the servlet before and after I install a
couple of printers in the server; however, the list of printer services does
not change until I restart Tomcat.  At the same time, I run a test program
in the server from the command line to list the print services and this
program lists the newly installed printers right away.  This has led me to
believe that the servlet is caching the list of printer services when it is
run the first time and does not re-run the code until Tomcat has been
re-started.

 

Thanks in advance for your response.



Re: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Tim Funk
It sounds like one of the classes the Servlet is depending on is caching the 
result.

-Tim
Carlos wrote:
Do servlets in Tomcat (1.4) catch results of programs that they run?  I have
a java servlet that lists the print services of printers installed in the
server (Linux Red Hat).  I run the servlet before and after I install a
couple of printers in the server; however, the list of printer services does
not change until I restart Tomcat.  At the same time, I run a test program
in the server from the command line to list the print services and this
program lists the newly installed printers right away.  This has led me to
believe that the servlet is caching the list of printer services when it is
run the first time and does not re-run the code until Tomcat has been
re-started.
 
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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
The servlets by themselves do what you tell them to: you wrote them,
after all ;)  Tomcat doesn't provide any caching of response content by
itself without special effort or configuration on your behalf.  As Tim
said, my guess is a utility class used by your servlet is doing the
caching for the printer services list.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com


-Original Message-
From: Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:43 AM
To: Tomcat-User ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Servlet caching?

Do servlets in Tomcat (1.4) catch results of programs that they run?  I
have
a java servlet that lists the print services of printers installed in
the
server (Linux Red Hat).  I run the servlet before and after I install a
couple of printers in the server; however, the list of printer services
does
not change until I restart Tomcat.  At the same time, I run a test
program
in the server from the command line to list the print services and this
program lists the newly installed printers right away.  This has led me
to
believe that the servlet is caching the list of printer services when
it is
run the first time and does not re-run the code until Tomcat has been
re-started.



Thanks in advance for your response.




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caching taglibs

2004-10-14 Thread Edson Alves Pereira
Hello folks, i noticed that everytime tomcat-5.0.x needs a taglib it
just create a new one, i´d like to cached all tag in my JSPs, how ca i do
that? Is there any taglib container like we have with servlets?

Regards,
Edson




RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Yoav,
I have found that even if I terminate every connection of the servlet to the
database and reload the servlet, the servlet still does not find the newly
installed printer.  I would think that after reloading the servlet all the
classes that it had used would cease to exist.  That is, any class that had
been instantiated or used by the servlet would not remain instantiated after
I reload the servlet.

So I am thinking that re-starting tomcat somehow makes Tomcat aware of the
services that have been installed after Tomcat was started

-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:00 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Servlet caching?


Hi,
The servlets by themselves do what you tell them to: you wrote them,
after all ;)  Tomcat doesn't provide any caching of response content by
itself without special effort or configuration on your behalf.  As Tim
said, my guess is a utility class used by your servlet is doing the
caching for the printer services list.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:43 AM
To: Tomcat-User ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Servlet caching?

Do servlets in Tomcat (1.4) catch results of programs that they run?  I
have
a java servlet that lists the print services of printers installed in
the
server (Linux Red Hat).  I run the servlet before and after I install a
couple of printers in the server; however, the list of printer services
does
not change until I restart Tomcat.  At the same time, I run a test
program
in the server from the command line to list the print services and this
program lists the newly installed printers right away.  This has led me
to
believe that the servlet is caching the list of printer services when
it is
run the first time and does not re-run the code until Tomcat has been
re-started.



Thanks in advance for your response.




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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Tim,
I have found that even if I terminate every connection of the servlet to the
database and reload the servlet, the servlet still does not find the newly
installed printer.  I would think that after reloading the servlet all the
classes that it had used would cease to exist.  That is, any class that had
been instantiated or used by the servlet would not remain instantiated after
I reload the servlet.

So I am thinking that re-starting tomcat somehow makes Tomcat aware of the
services that have been installed after Tomcat was started
-Original Message-
From: Tim Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:50 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Servlet caching?

It sounds like one of the classes the Servlet is depending on is caching the

result.

-Tim

Carlos wrote:
 Do servlets in Tomcat (1.4) catch results of programs that they run?  I
have
 a java servlet that lists the print services of printers installed in the
 server (Linux Red Hat).  I run the servlet before and after I install a
 couple of printers in the server; however, the list of printer services
does
 not change until I restart Tomcat.  At the same time, I run a test program
 in the server from the command line to list the print services and this
 program lists the newly installed printers right away.  This has led me to
 believe that the servlet is caching the list of printer services when it
is
 run the first time and does not re-run the code until Tomcat has been
 re-started.
 
  

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Re: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread QM
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 04:20:08PM -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote:
: I have found that even if I terminate every connection of the servlet to the
: database and reload the servlet, the servlet still does not find the newly
: installed printer.

Please post the servlet, or provide a walk-through.
It really sounds like you're storing data somewhere (instance variable,
whatever) but not properly updating it second time around.

-QM

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RE: Servlet caching?

2004-10-14 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

I would think that after reloading the servlet all the
classes that it had used would cease to exist.  That is, any class that
had
been instantiated or used by the servlet would not remain instantiated
after
I reload the servlet.

Under most instances, but not all.  For example, if the library you're
using the find the list of printers is in common/lib or shared/lib, your
thought above is false.

Yoav




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[OT] Webapp upgrades and browser caching

2004-10-07 Thread Justin Ruthenbeck
I'm looking for some advice about how to handle the following situation.
(1) Apache 2.x in front of Tomcat 5.x
(2) Deploy new web application.  Bunch of servlets, bunch of jsps, bunch 
of static content (mainly js, css).
(3) Many users use the application, during which time their browsers 
cache lots of static content
(4) We do a major version upgrade of the webapp, including (almost) all 
new static content, but URLs stay the same (to alleviate 
bookmark-maintenance requirements).

The problem arises when the browsers continue to use their cached version 
of the static content.  Now, the browsers eventually get updated, but 
immediately after deployment there are huge numbers of graphical and 
functional (js files) problems.  It seems like behavior in this area is 
widely different amongst browsers and/or their settings.

I have only come up with the following option:
(1) Play with URLs.  New deployments can be deployed under
a different url domain like:
http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css
http://www.server.com/myapp/v2/main.css
This would force browsers to get new content since the
content appears as totally new content to the browser.
Aside from disabling static content caching, are there any other options 
out there?

Much thanks for the help!
justin

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Re: [OT] Webapp upgrades and browser caching

2004-10-07 Thread Wade Chandler
Justin Ruthenbeck wrote:
I'm looking for some advice about how to handle the following situation.
(1) Apache 2.x in front of Tomcat 5.x
(2) Deploy new web application.  Bunch of servlets, bunch of jsps, bunch 
of static content (mainly js, css).
(3) Many users use the application, during which time their browsers 
cache lots of static content
(4) We do a major version upgrade of the webapp, including (almost) all 
new static content, but URLs stay the same (to alleviate 
bookmark-maintenance requirements).

The problem arises when the browsers continue to use their cached 
version of the static content.  Now, the browsers eventually get 
updated, but immediately after deployment there are huge numbers of 
graphical and functional (js files) problems.  It seems like behavior in 
this area is widely different amongst browsers and/or their settings.

I have only come up with the following option:
(1) Play with URLs.  New deployments can be deployed under
a different url domain like:
http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css
http://www.server.com/myapp/v2/main.css
This would force browsers to get new content since the
content appears as totally new content to the browser.
Aside from disabling static content caching, are there any other options 
out there?

Much thanks for the help!
justin

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For static web pages you can use a tag like this:
META HTTP-EQUIV=EXPIRES CONTENT=TUE, 2 OCT 1998 12:42:00 GMT
If the browsers still have a problem you might be able to configure 
Apache to output a header will all content called EXPIRES.  I think you 
can if I remember right from some docs I read.  You will have to look at 
Apache for that.  I'm not sure about tomcat being able to handle that or 
not, but the apache bit should prepend the header I believe.  The only 
other way would be to output all images and static pages from a servlet 
of some kind and add the header yourself to the request.  Browsers 
should honor that tag or header for all images down the line from your 
html or jsp pages, but may not.

Some browsers may be able to be set to ignore this all together though. 
 Sometimes it is even worse than that.  I have seen ISP's who think 
they are slick who install a cache in their systems, and they basically 
become a proxy for the users.  If they are ignoring such things your 
users would have to contact them.  I have seen some who do this for 
different protocols even http and https differently.  That one irked me 
pretty good.

Anyways, I use expires in all my jsp and html files.  I haven't ever 
tried the other stuff for the headers from Apache, but think I remember 
reading about it in the Apache docs.  I have output that header from 
servlets and ISAPI dlls before.

Someone else may be able to offer more help.
Wade
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Re: [OT] Webapp upgrades and browser caching

2004-10-07 Thread Justin Ruthenbeck
Wade,
Thanks for your comments.
By adding the META expires tag, it sounds like you setting the system 
up to schedule the upgrade.  By this, I mean that you know you're gonna 
upgrade a week from today, so you configure Apache to suggest that all 
content should expire at that time.  Sounds reasonable.

In our situation, we have our webapps installed offsite in clients' 
facilities, so all/most of the upgrade process needs to be fool-proof... 
reconfiguring Apache 1 week (or whatever) before the upgrade isn't really 
an option.  Aside from this, any more idea about how to handle this?

Thanks,
justin

For static web pages you can use a tag like this:
META HTTP-EQUIV=EXPIRES CONTENT=TUE, 2 OCT 1998 12:42:00 GMT
If the browsers still have a problem you might be able to configure 
Apache to output a header will all content called EXPIRES.  I think you 
can if I remember right from some docs I read.  You will have to look at 
Apache for that.  I'm not sure about tomcat being able to handle that or 
not, but the apache bit should prepend the header I believe.  The only 
other way would be to output all images and static pages from a servlet 
of some kind and add the header yourself to the request.  Browsers 
should honor that tag or header for all images down the line from your 
html or jsp pages, but may not.

Some browsers may be able to be set to ignore this all together 
though.  Sometimes it is even worse than that.  I have seen ISP's who 
think they are slick who install a cache in their systems, and they 
basically become a proxy for the users.  If they are ignoring such 
things your users would have to contact them.  I have seen some who do 
this for different protocols even http and https differently.  That one 
irked me pretty good.

Anyways, I use expires in all my jsp and html files.  I haven't ever 
tried the other stuff for the headers from Apache, but think I remember 
reading about it in the Apache docs.  I have output that header from 
servlets and ISAPI dlls before.

Someone else may be able to offer more help.
Wade

At 11:21 AM 10/7/2004, you wrote:
Justin Ruthenbeck wrote:
I'm looking for some advice about how to handle the following situation.
(1) Apache 2.x in front of Tomcat 5.x
(2) Deploy new web application.  Bunch of servlets, bunch of jsps, 
bunch of static content (mainly js, css).
(3) Many users use the application, during which time their browsers 
cache lots of static content
(4) We do a major version upgrade of the webapp, including (almost) all 
new static content, but URLs stay the same (to alleviate 
bookmark-maintenance requirements).
The problem arises when the browsers continue to use their cached 
version of the static content.  Now, the browsers eventually get 
updated, but immediately after deployment there are huge numbers of 
graphical and functional (js files) problems.  It seems like behavior 
in this area is widely different amongst browsers and/or their settings.
I have only come up with the following option:
(1) Play with URLs.  New deployments can be deployed under
a different url domain like:
http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css
http://www.server.com/myapp/v2/main.css
This would force browsers to get new content since the
content appears as totally new content to the browser.
Aside from disabling static content caching, are there any other 
options out there?
Much thanks for the help!
justin

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Re: [OT] Webapp upgrades and browser caching

2004-10-07 Thread appa rao
Hi Justin,
 
Sorry If I don't understand your question correctly, but I hope this is what you are 
looking for.   
Just add a dummy variable at the end the url. 
 
if your css file is http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css, then add ?dummy=%=new 
java.util.Date().getTime()%
 
i.e., http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css?dummy=%=new java.util.Date().getTime()%
 
Appa

Justin Ruthenbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm looking for some advice about how to handle the following situation.

(1) Apache 2.x in front of Tomcat 5.x
(2) Deploy new web application. Bunch of servlets, bunch of jsps, bunch 
of static content (mainly js, css).
(3) Many users use the application, during which time their browsers 
cache lots of static content
(4) We do a major version upgrade of the webapp, including (almost) all 
new static content, but URLs stay the same (to alleviate 
bookmark-maintenance requirements).

The problem arises when the browsers continue to use their cached version 
of the static content. Now, the browsers eventually get updated, but 
immediately after deployment there are huge numbers of graphical and 
functional (js files) problems. It seems like behavior in this area is 
widely different amongst browsers and/or their settings.

I have only come up with the following option:

(1) Play with URLs. New deployments can be deployed under
a different url domain like:
http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css
http://www.server.com/myapp/v2/main.css
This would force browsers to get new content since the
content appears as totally new content to the browser.

Aside from disabling static content caching, are there any other options 
out there?

Much thanks for the help!
justin




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Re: [OT] Webapp upgrades and browser caching

2004-10-07 Thread Peter Johnson
Justin,

Have a read of http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/

If you have access to the apache config then you should be able to add a
header like the ones below using mod_headers

Cache-Control: max-age=60, must-revalidate 

to expire content after 60 seconds or use 

Cache-Control: no-cache 

to force revalidation of the content on each request.

PJ

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 04:53, Justin Ruthenbeck wrote:
 Wade,
 
 Thanks for your comments.
 
 By adding the META expires tag, it sounds like you setting the system 
 up to schedule the upgrade.  By this, I mean that you know you're gonna 
 upgrade a week from today, so you configure Apache to suggest that all 
 content should expire at that time.  Sounds reasonable.
 
 In our situation, we have our webapps installed offsite in clients' 
 facilities, so all/most of the upgrade process needs to be fool-proof... 
 reconfiguring Apache 1 week (or whatever) before the upgrade isn't really 
 an option.  Aside from this, any more idea about how to handle this?
 
 Thanks,
 justin
 
 
 For static web pages you can use a tag like this:
 META HTTP-EQUIV=EXPIRES CONTENT=TUE, 2 OCT 1998 12:42:00 GMT
 
 If the browsers still have a problem you might be able to configure 
 Apache to output a header will all content called EXPIRES.  I think you 
 can if I remember right from some docs I read.  You will have to look at 
 Apache for that.  I'm not sure about tomcat being able to handle that or 
 not, but the apache bit should prepend the header I believe.  The only 
 other way would be to output all images and static pages from a servlet 
 of some kind and add the header yourself to the request.  Browsers 
 should honor that tag or header for all images down the line from your 
 html or jsp pages, but may not.
 
 Some browsers may be able to be set to ignore this all together 
 though.  Sometimes it is even worse than that.  I have seen ISP's who 
 think they are slick who install a cache in their systems, and they 
 basically become a proxy for the users.  If they are ignoring such 
 things your users would have to contact them.  I have seen some who do 
 this for different protocols even http and https differently.  That one 
 irked me pretty good.
 
 Anyways, I use expires in all my jsp and html files.  I haven't ever 
 tried the other stuff for the headers from Apache, but think I remember 
 reading about it in the Apache docs.  I have output that header from 
 servlets and ISAPI dlls before.
 
 Someone else may be able to offer more help.
 
 Wade
 
 
 At 11:21 AM 10/7/2004, you wrote:
 Justin Ruthenbeck wrote:
 
 I'm looking for some advice about how to handle the following situation.
 (1) Apache 2.x in front of Tomcat 5.x
 (2) Deploy new web application.  Bunch of servlets, bunch of jsps, 
 bunch of static content (mainly js, css).
 (3) Many users use the application, during which time their browsers 
 cache lots of static content
 (4) We do a major version upgrade of the webapp, including (almost) all 
 new static content, but URLs stay the same (to alleviate 
 bookmark-maintenance requirements).
 The problem arises when the browsers continue to use their cached 
 version of the static content.  Now, the browsers eventually get 
 updated, but immediately after deployment there are huge numbers of 
 graphical and functional (js files) problems.  It seems like behavior 
 in this area is widely different amongst browsers and/or their settings.
 I have only come up with the following option:
 (1) Play with URLs.  New deployments can be deployed under
  a different url domain like:
  http://www.server.com/myapp/v1/main.css
  http://www.server.com/myapp/v2/main.css
  This would force browsers to get new content since the
  content appears as totally new content to the browser.
 Aside from disabling static content caching, are there any other 
 options out there?
 Much thanks for the help!
 justin
 
 
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Client-side caching via If-Modified-Since

2004-09-08 Thread Joost Baaij
Hi all, I'm new to the list. Have searched on the web for answers to my
question, but was unable to find much.

Summary: I am trying to utilize client-side caching via
the If-Modified-Since request header and 304 response code for jsp pages.


There is a mechanism in Tomcat that returns status 304 for static files
that have not been modified since the last request by the client. I've
seen it in my logs, but only for gif, jpg, css files and the like.

I run a website with many thousands of articles online. Every time Google
et al come around, my load shoots up since they're requesting all
articles. I added the Last-Modified header to all articles, in the
understanding that Tomcat would match this header with the incoming
If-Modified-Since, and return 304 for old articles.

This does not seem to happen though (Tomcat 4.1.24). Correct?

So then I'm left with writing a filter that does this trick for me.
Unfortunately I'm stuck there too (I've attached it). My question really
is, should this functionality be in Tomcat and if it is, how can I use it?

Joost.
package nl.gomagazine.web;

import java.io.IOException;
import java.util.logging.*;

import javax.servlet.Filter;
import javax.servlet.FilterChain;
import javax.servlet.FilterConfig;
import javax.servlet.ServletException;
import javax.servlet.ServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.ServletResponse;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse;

/**
 * @author joost
 */
public class CacheFilter implements Filter {
private int responseCode = HttpServletResponse.SC_NOT_MODIFIED;
private String responseMsg = Not modified;
private static Logger log = null;

/**
 * @see Filter#init(FilterConfig)
 */
public synchronized void init(FilterConfig filterConfig) throws 
ServletException {
if(log == null) {
log = Logger.getLogger(nl.gomagazine.web);
try {
Handler fh = new 
FileHandler(/export/web/gomagazine/www/logs/cachefilter.log, true);
fh.setFormatter(new 
java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter());
log.addHandler(fh);
log.setLevel(Level.ALL);
log.config(Program started);
} catch (IOException e) {
throw new ServletException(e);
} catch (SecurityException e) {
throw new ServletException(e);
}
}
}

/**
 * @see Filter#doFilter(ServletRequest, ServletResponse, FilterChain)
 */
public void doFilter(ServletRequest request, ServletResponse response,  
FilterChain chain) throws IOException, ServletException {
HttpServletRequest httpRequest = (HttpServletRequest)request;
HttpServletResponse httpResponse = (HttpServletResponse)response;

log.info(filter activated for request=+httpRequest.getRequestURL());
// always pass the request/response on
chain.doFilter(request, response);

// if If-Modified-Since was set, modify the response
long ifModifiedSince = httpRequest.getDateHeader(If-Modified-Since);
if(ifModifiedSince  -1) {
log.config(request has If-Modified-Since set);
long lastModified = httpRequest.getDateHeader(Last-Modified);
if(ifModifiedSince  lastModified)
httpResponse.sendError(this.responseCode, 
this.responseMsg);
}
}

/**
 * @see Filter#destroy()
 */
public void destroy() {

}
}
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Re: Client-side caching via If-Modified-Since

2004-09-08 Thread Tim Funk
It belongs in a filter like you have done. It doesn't belong in tomcat.
Also your filter isn't correct - it is still executing your JSP code and 
wasting resources. It should be:
doFilter() {
  ...
  if (contentIsFresh) {
httpResponse.sendError(HttpServletResponse.SC_NOT_MODIFIED);
  } else {
chain.doFilter( ... );
  }
}

-Tim
Joost Baaij wrote:
Hi all, I'm new to the list. Have searched on the web for answers to my
question, but was unable to find much.
Summary: I am trying to utilize client-side caching via
the If-Modified-Since request header and 304 response code for jsp pages.
There is a mechanism in Tomcat that returns status 304 for static files
that have not been modified since the last request by the client. I've
seen it in my logs, but only for gif, jpg, css files and the like.
I run a website with many thousands of articles online. Every time Google
et al come around, my load shoots up since they're requesting all
articles. I added the Last-Modified header to all articles, in the
understanding that Tomcat would match this header with the incoming
If-Modified-Since, and return 304 for old articles.
This does not seem to happen though (Tomcat 4.1.24). Correct?
So then I'm left with writing a filter that does this trick for me.
Unfortunately I'm stuck there too (I've attached it). My question really
is, should this functionality be in Tomcat and if it is, how can I use it?
Joost.

package nl.gomagazine.web;
import java.io.IOException;
import java.util.logging.*;
import javax.servlet.Filter;
import javax.servlet.FilterChain;
import javax.servlet.FilterConfig;
import javax.servlet.ServletException;
import javax.servlet.ServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.ServletResponse;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse;
/**
 * @author joost
 */
public class CacheFilter implements Filter {
private int responseCode = HttpServletResponse.SC_NOT_MODIFIED;
private String responseMsg = Not modified;
private static Logger log = null;
/**
 * @see Filter#init(FilterConfig)
 */
public synchronized void init(FilterConfig filterConfig) throws 
ServletException {
if(log == null) {
log = Logger.getLogger(nl.gomagazine.web);
try {
Handler fh = new 
FileHandler(/export/web/gomagazine/www/logs/cachefilter.log, true);
fh.setFormatter(new 
java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter());
log.addHandler(fh);
log.setLevel(Level.ALL);
log.config(Program started);
} catch (IOException e) {
throw new ServletException(e);
} catch (SecurityException e) {
throw new ServletException(e);
}
}
}
/**
 * @see Filter#doFilter(ServletRequest, ServletResponse, FilterChain)
 */
public void doFilter(ServletRequest request, ServletResponse response,  
FilterChain chain) throws IOException, ServletException {
HttpServletRequest httpRequest = (HttpServletRequest)request;
HttpServletResponse httpResponse = (HttpServletResponse)response;
log.info(filter activated for request=+httpRequest.getRequestURL());
// always pass the request/response on
chain.doFilter(request, response);
// if If-Modified-Since was set, modify the response
long ifModifiedSince = httpRequest.getDateHeader(If-Modified-Since);
if(ifModifiedSince  -1) {
log.config(request has If-Modified-Since set);
long lastModified = httpRequest.getDateHeader(Last-Modified);
if(ifModifiedSince  lastModified)
httpResponse.sendError(this.responseCode, 
this.responseMsg);
}
}
/**
 * @see Filter#destroy()
 */
public void destroy() {
}
}
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Re: Client-side caching via If-Modified-Since

2004-09-08 Thread Tim Funk
There is no need for the response's last modified header. Unless you wish to 
set a header in the caching response header. But at that point - that is your 
code setting it, not tomcat.

If a client is sending a If-Modified-Since header - that means they have 
retrieved the content at some time. In that case, you'd need a rule to 
determine when to re-display page or send a 304. (The job of the filter).

Your original code is
- Executing the JSP (and probably sending content back to the client)
- Then checking for freshness and possibly sending a 304
- At which point - you probably are getting an IllegalStateException
Unless your page is smaller than the buffer size - I bet you'll see a lot of 
IllegalStateExceptions in your logs.

-Tim
Joost Baaij wrote:
Thanks for your help! A filter then.
it's the question if(contentIsFresh) I'm having trouble with.
I can getDateHeader(If-Modified-Since) from the request without any
problems, but how can I retrieve the Last-Modified from the response?
There's no method for it. Does the initial request-object have this
information?
I'm a novice servlet programmer. Sorry if my question is too basic.
Also, I do think the chain.doFilter() must still be executed. I need to
get that Last-Modified information from the response (if only I knew how
to access it!)
Joost.
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tim Funk wrote:

It belongs in a filter like you have done. It doesn't belong in tomcat.
Also your filter isn't correct - it is still executing your JSP code and 
wasting resources. It should be:
doFilter() {
  ...
  if (contentIsFresh) {
httpResponse.sendError(HttpServletResponse.SC_NOT_MODIFIED);
  } else {
chain.doFilter( ... );
  }
}

-Tim
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How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
Hello all,
I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and I
could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web page.  I
have the tags:
meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT

in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page.  I read somewhere
to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the request, but I
could not find how to do this in tomcat.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread QM
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: in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page.  I read somewhere
: to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the request, but I
: could not find how to do this in tomcat.  Any help would be appreciated.

Response.setHeader()

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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
Thanks, I will give this a try.

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QM said:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 10:47:27AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 : in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page.  I read
 somewhere : to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the
 request, but I : could not find how to do this in tomcat.  Any help
 would be appreciated.

 Response.setHeader()

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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread John Gentilin
When I am battling against IE caching or proxy caching, I add the 
following lines
to my response header. A bit brute force but it seems to work, althought 
I think
it cause some issues when backing up on a form, forcing a reload.

   response.setHeader(Cache-Control, 
no-cache,max-age=0,must-revalidate);
   response.setHeader(Pragma, no-cache);
   response.setHeader(Expires, -1d);

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and I
could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web page.  I
have the tags:
meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT
in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page.  I read somewhere
to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the request, but I
could not find how to do this in tomcat.  Any help would be appreciated.
 


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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
Must you do this as one of the first things you do, before you output any
html?

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John Gentilin said:
 When I am battling against IE caching or proxy caching, I add the
 following lines
 to my response header. A bit brute force but it seems to work, althought
  I think
 it cause some issues when backing up on a form, forcing a reload.

 response.setHeader(Cache-Control,
 no-cache,max-age=0,must-revalidate);
 response.setHeader(Pragma, no-cache);
 response.setHeader(Expires, -1d);

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,
I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and I
 could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web page.
  I have the tags:
  meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
  meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
  META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT

in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page.  I read
 somewhere to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the
 request, but I could not find how to do this in tomcat.  Any help would
 be appreciated.






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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread John Gentilin
Not sure if order matters but in my code, I set the headers first then 
process the request.
-JG

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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread Ronald Klop
Yes. To be precise: you have to set the headers before Tomcat flushes its outputbuffer 
for the first time. To be save, just set headers, than output html.
Ronald,
On Tue Aug 31 20:10:13 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Must you do this as one of the first things you do, before you output any
html?
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John Gentilin said:
When I am battling against IE caching or proxy caching, I add the
following lines
to my response header. A bit brute force but it seems to work, althought
I think
it cause some issues when backing up on a form, forcing a reload.

response.setHeader(Cache-Control,
no-cache,max-age=0,must-revalidate);
response.setHeader(Pragma, no-cache);
response.setHeader(Expires, -1d);

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,
I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and I
could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web page.
I have the tags:
meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT

in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page. I read
somewhere to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the
request, but I could not find how to do this in tomcat. Any help would
be appreciated.






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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread John Villar
you could also use a filter for your whole app that does that, if you 
want all your app non-cached, same rules apply

Ronald Klop escribió:
Yes. To be precise: you have to set the headers before Tomcat flushes 
its outputbuffer for the first time. To be save, just set headers, 
than output html.

Ronald,
On Tue Aug 31 20:10:13 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Must you do this as one of the first things you do, before you output 
any
html?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Gentilin said:
When I am battling against IE caching or proxy caching, I add the
following lines
to my response header. A bit brute force but it seems to work, 
althought
I think
it cause some issues when backing up on a form, forcing a reload.

response.setHeader(Cache-Control,
no-cache,max-age=0,must-revalidate);
response.setHeader(Pragma, no-cache);
response.setHeader(Expires, -1d);

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,
I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and I
could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web 
page.
I have the tags:
meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT

in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page. I read
somewhere to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of the
request, but I could not find how to do this in tomcat. Any help would
be appreciated.






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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
Can I ask Tomcat if it has flushed it's output buffer yet?

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John Villar said:
 you could also use a filter for your whole app that does that, if you
 want all your app non-cached, same rules apply

 Ronald Klop escribió:

 Yes. To be precise: you have to set the headers before Tomcat flushes
 its outputbuffer for the first time. To be save, just set headers,
 than output html.

 Ronald,

 On Tue Aug 31 20:10:13 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Must you do this as one of the first things you do, before you output
  any
 html?

 --
 Christopher Cullum
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 John Gentilin said:
 When I am battling against IE caching or proxy caching, I add the
 following lines
 to my response header. A bit brute force but it seems to work,
 althought
 I think
 it cause some issues when backing up on a form, forcing a reload.
 
 response.setHeader(Cache-Control,
 no-cache,max-age=0,must-revalidate);
 response.setHeader(Pragma, no-cache);
 response.setHeader(Expires, -1d);
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have taken a cursory look at the documentation for tomcat 5.x and
 I could not see how to get intermediary proxy's from caching my web

 page.
 I have the tags:
 meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache
 meta http-equiv=cache-control content=no-cache
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:52:51 GMT
 
 in my head section, but the proxy still caches my page. I read
 somewhere to put the cache-control:no-cache in the http header of
 the request, but I could not find how to do this in tomcat. Any
 help would be appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread Carl Howells
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Can I ask Tomcat if it has flushed it's output buffer yet?
As part of the servlet spec...
HttpServletResponse has an isCommitted() method.  That will tell you 
whether it's flushed the buffer.

But really, it seems like a bad design to rely on that method.
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Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem

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Carl Howells said:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can I ask Tomcat if it has flushed it's output buffer yet?


 As part of the servlet spec...

 HttpServletResponse has an isCommitted() method.  That will tell you
 whether it's flushed the buffer.

 But really, it seems like a bad design to rely on that method.
To rely on that method, yes a bad design, to check before you change the
headers, so you can head off an exception, not a bad design.


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RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
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 Subject: Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?
 
 To rely on that method, yes a bad design, to check before 
 you change the headers, so you can head off an exception, 
 not a bad design.

However, you're adding code for a hopefully infrequent situation to the main path.  If 
you simply catch the exception, you don't impact the main path.

 - Chuck


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RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
Adding the headers will not be an infrequent situation, most of my site is
dynamic so almost all of the site cannot be cached.  The adding of these
headers will be part of the main path.


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Caldarale, Charles R said:
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 Subject: Re: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

 To rely on that method, yes a bad design, to check before
 you change the headers, so you can head off an exception,
 not a bad design.

 However, you're adding code for a hopefully infrequent situation to the
 main path.  If you simply catch the exception, you don't impact the main
 path.

  - Chuck


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RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
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 Subject: RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?
 
 Adding the headers will not be an infrequent situation, most 
 of my site is dynamic so almost all of the site cannot be cached.
 The adding of these headers will be part of the main path.

You're missing the point.  The infrequent case is that the output is already 
committed, not that you'll be adding headers.  You're including an error check in the 
main path that would be perfectly well handled by an exception.

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RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

2004-08-31 Thread yem
I don't agree with your assesment.  I would rather do a simple boolean
check before I do something and make a decision based on that and use
exceptions for catastrophic errors.  Just a choice in how to use the tools
available.

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Caldarale, Charles R said:
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 Subject: RE: How do I get an intermediary proxy from caching?

 Adding the headers will not be an infrequent situation, most
 of my site is dynamic so almost all of the site cannot be cached. The
 adding of these headers will be part of the main path.

 You're missing the point.  The infrequent case is that the output is
 already committed, not that you'll be adding headers.  You're including
 an error check in the main path that would be perfectly well handled by
 an exception.

  - Chuck


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Session Sharingand Caching Problem

2004-07-16 Thread Selva Kumar B.
Hi ,
  We are having the following architecture being used in our web based
application
HTML/JSP  --- Main Servlet  processor class  Session Bean 
DAO layer  Oracle 8i Database.

Application Server : Oracle 9i Application Server.

OC4J being the container.
We start the server using java -jar orion.jar

The issue is :-
When there is load one user is able to see the data of other users, we also
get 500 internal server error
when two or more people hit the same page at the same time. We have used all
cache clear snippets coding but still
we are having some issues in it. what do we do ? We are storing some data in
the session but each user would have 
his own session id assigned to him right. Then in that case where and which
point is it getting shared ?
regards Selva
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Re: Session Sharingand Caching Problem

2004-07-16 Thread Tim Funk
I think your using Orion, not tomcat.
http://www.orionserver.com/
-Tim
Selva Kumar B. wrote:
Hi ,
  We are having the following architecture being used in our web based
application
HTML/JSP  --- Main Servlet  processor class  Session Bean 
DAO layer  Oracle 8i Database.
Application Server : Oracle 9i Application Server.
OC4J being the container.
We start the server using java -jar orion.jar
The issue is :-
When there is load one user is able to see the data of other users, we also
get 500 internal server error
when two or more people hit the same page at the same time. We have used all
cache clear snippets coding but still
we are having some issues in it. what do we do ? We are storing some data in
the session but each user would have 
his own session id assigned to him right. Then in that case where and which
point is it getting shared ?

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Caching Service for clustered tomcat

2004-05-20 Thread Holly, Michael
I have written a web app that uses my own object cache, this works great
as a singleton,  but would like to eventually get where I can cluster my
servlet container.  I have just heard about jcs and jCache.  Does anyone
have any other resources for implementing these on a clustered tomcat
4.x?  Am I missing a FAQ somewhere?
 
thanks
 
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My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread Allistair Crossley
Hi Guys

I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week and one of the 
things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as lots of JSPs each with the 
page ID as the jsp filename.

Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the JSP include for 
the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second delay or so where 
presumably the include is compiled because thereafter it is fast. Cool.

Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and what we saw was 
that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on them to re-compile?

I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments again for some 
reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper sevlet in servlet.conf to 
stop this happening??

Cheers Guys, ADC


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Re: My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread Seth Newton
Yeah, that'd be my first guess.set development to false.

Why didn't you just try it?  It would have taken you just as long to try it
as it did for you to write an email and send it.
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Subject: My own caching implementation...


 Hi Guys

 I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week and
one of the things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as lots of
JSPs each with the page ID as the jsp filename.

 Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the JSP
include for the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second
delay or so where presumably the include is compiled because thereafter it
is fast. Cool.

 Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and what we
saw was that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on them
to re-compile?

 I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments again
for some reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper sevlet in
servlet.conf to stop this happening??

 Cheers Guys, ADC


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RE: My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread John Trollinger
Jasper 2 already caches jsp pages.  Have you realy noticed a performance
increase?

-Original Message-
From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: My own caching implementation...


Yeah, that'd be my first guess.set development to false.

Why didn't you just try it?  It would have taken you just as long to try
it as it did for you to write an email and send it.
- Original Message - 
From: Allistair Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:25 AM
Subject: My own caching implementation...


 Hi Guys

 I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week 
 and
one of the things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as lots
of JSPs each with the page ID as the jsp filename.

 Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the 
 JSP
include for the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second
delay or so where presumably the include is compiled because thereafter
it is fast. Cool.

 Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and 
 what we
saw was that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on
them to re-compile?

 I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments 
 again
for some reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper
sevlet in servlet.conf to stop this happening??

 Cheers Guys, ADC


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RE: My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread Allistair Crossley
I don't think you understood quite what I meant - my JSP beforehand was actually 
dynamically creating all the nav from the database per request. All I mean by cache 
in this case is that I wrote a script that goes through the database tree and 
generates loads of little JSPs so that they do not have to be calculated from the DB 
at runtime. I am sure Jasper caches these small JSPs.
 
Cheers! ADC

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From: John Trollinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 17:55 
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Cc: 
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...



Jasper 2 already caches jsp pages.  Have you realy noticed a performance
increase?

-Original Message-
From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: My own caching implementation...


Yeah, that'd be my first guess.set development to false.

Why didn't you just try it?  It would have taken you just as long to try
it as it did for you to write an email and send it.
- Original Message -
From: Allistair Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:25 AM
Subject: My own caching implementation...


 Hi Guys

 I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week
 and
one of the things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as lots
of JSPs each with the page ID as the jsp filename.

 Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the
 JSP
include for the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second
delay or so where presumably the include is compiled because thereafter
it is fast. Cool.

 Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and
 what we
saw was that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on
them to re-compile?

 I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments
 again
for some reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper
sevlet in servlet.conf to stop this happening??

 Cheers Guys, ADC


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RE: My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread LILES, DAVID (CONTRACTOR)
Not to get too wrapped up in how-to... since you are already going to the database 
to identify the nav links for the person, was there a reason why you didn't put the 
results into a collection and save it to session for the user? That way they are 
always available during their session. When you display the page all you have to do is 
iterate through the collection to display the nav links.

Just a thought

-Original Message-
From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...


I don't think you understood quite what I meant - my JSP beforehand was actually 
dynamically creating all the nav from the database per request. All I mean by cache 
in this case is that I wrote a script that goes through the database tree and 
generates loads of little JSPs so that they do not have to be calculated from the DB 
at runtime. I am sure Jasper caches these small JSPs.
 
Cheers! ADC

-Original Message- 
From: John Trollinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 17:55 
To: 'Tomcat Users List' 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...



Jasper 2 already caches jsp pages.  Have you realy noticed a performance
increase?

-Original Message-
From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: My own caching implementation...


Yeah, that'd be my first guess.set development to false.

Why didn't you just try it?  It would have taken you just as long to try
it as it did for you to write an email and send it.
- Original Message -
From: Allistair Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:25 AM
Subject: My own caching implementation...


 Hi Guys

 I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week
 and
one of the things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as lots
of JSPs each with the page ID as the jsp filename.

 Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the
 JSP
include for the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second
delay or so where presumably the include is compiled because thereafter
it is fast. Cool.

 Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and
 what we
saw was that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on
them to re-compile?

 I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments
 again
for some reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper
sevlet in servlet.conf to stop this happening??

 Cheers Guys, ADC


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RE: My own caching implementation...

2004-04-08 Thread Allistair Crossley
The nav is not determined by the user so there is no need to store it in each user 
session I would say. The database is hit to create these JSPs actually before tomcat 
is even started up, so there is no cost in doing that.
 
Cheers ADC

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From: LILES, DAVID (CONTRACTOR) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 20:35 
To: Tomcat Users List 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...



Not to get too wrapped up in how-to... since you are already going to the 
database to identify the nav links for the person, was there a reason why you didn't 
put the results into a collection and save it to session for the user? That way they 
are always available during their session. When you display the page all you have to 
do is iterate through the collection to display the nav links.

Just a thought

-Original Message-
From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:28 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...


I don't think you understood quite what I meant - my JSP beforehand was 
actually dynamically creating all the nav from the database per request. All I mean by 
cache in this case is that I wrote a script that goes through the database tree and 
generates loads of little JSPs so that they do not have to be calculated from the DB 
at runtime. I am sure Jasper caches these small JSPs.

Cheers! ADC

-Original Message-
From: John Trollinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 08/04/2004 17:55
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Cc:
Subject: RE: My own caching implementation...
   
   

Jasper 2 already caches jsp pages.  Have you realy noticed a 
performance
increase?
   
-Original Message-
From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: My own caching implementation...
   
   
Yeah, that'd be my first guess.set development to false.
   
Why didn't you just try it?  It would have taken you just as long to 
try
it as it did for you to write an email and send it.
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From: Allistair Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:25 AM
Subject: My own caching implementation...
   
   
 Hi Guys

 I have been trying to improve the performace of our app the past week
 and
one of the things I did was to cache our vast navigation systems as 
lots
of JSPs each with the page ID as the jsp filename.

 Annnyway, this works fine but each time a page is accessed where the
 JSP
include for the navigation has not been used before there is a 3 second
delay or so where presumably the include is compiled because thereafter
it is fast. Cool.

 Now, a moment ago we pre-released a version to technical staff and
 what we
saw was that even pages that had been visited seemed after 5 clicks on
them to re-compile?

 I am just wondering if Tomcat will compile these include fragments
 again
for some reason? Should I be using development=false in the Jasper
sevlet in servlet.conf to stop this happening??

 Cheers Guys, ADC


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RE: caching static objects

2004-03-23 Thread Ronald Wildenberg
 We are running Tomcat-standalone and are having some caching 
 issues. It
 appears to be a browser issue, but there's got to be some workaround.
 We've got the headers set to pragma nocache, but it continues to cache
 objects, such as charts that are created dynamically. I suppose this
 wouldn't be an issue if the code worked with Apache. Also, creating
 unique identifiers for each object has been shot down. Does 
 anyone know
 of a way to get server.xml to set each object not to cache? Thanks.
 


The 'Pragma' header you use is from HTTP/1.0. Most caches, including
browser cache, by now use HTTP/1.1, where cache control is achieved
differently. You should use 'Cache-Control' headers (although it never
hurts to also use 'Pragma' headers, in case you encounter an older
HTTP/1.0 cache).

For more information you can look at the HTTP/1.1 RFC at:

   ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2616.txt

and search for the text 'Cache-Control'.


Regards, Ronald.

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RE: caching static objects

2004-03-23 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

We are running Tomcat-standalone and are having some caching issues. It
appears to be a browser issue, but there's got to be some workaround.
We've got the headers set to pragma nocache, but it continues to cache
objects, such as charts that are created dynamically. I suppose this
wouldn't be an issue if the code worked with Apache. Also, creating
unique identifiers for each object has been shot down. Does anyone know
of a way to get server.xml to set each object not to cache? Thanks.

There's no server.xml way to do this, but it's a trivial filter to
write.  Just add the pragma-nocache and the cache-control headers to
every outgoing response.

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caching static objects

2004-03-22 Thread Kimberly McKinnis
We are running Tomcat-standalone and are having some caching issues. It
appears to be a browser issue, but there's got to be some workaround.
We've got the headers set to pragma nocache, but it continues to cache
objects, such as charts that are created dynamically. I suppose this
wouldn't be an issue if the code worked with Apache. Also, creating
unique identifiers for each object has been shot down. Does anyone know
of a way to get server.xml to set each object not to cache? Thanks.



RE: caching static objects

2004-03-22 Thread Mike Curwen
if you're using the jfreechart package for dynamic chart creation, then
there's a setting in that package that you can adjust for whether or not
the chart should be cached or not (and when it expires).


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 Subject: caching static objects
 
 
 We are running Tomcat-standalone and are having some caching 
 issues. It appears to be a browser issue, but there's got to 
 be some workaround. We've got the headers set to pragma 
 nocache, but it continues to cache objects, such as charts 
 that are created dynamically. I suppose this wouldn't be an 
 issue if the code worked with Apache. Also, creating unique 
 identifiers for each object has been shot down. Does anyone 
 know of a way to get server.xml to set each object not to 
 cache? Thanks.
 
 


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RE: caching static objects

2004-03-22 Thread Kimberly McKinnis
Mmm... good thought. Am using Chart FX though. I shall look in there.
Thanks!

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Subject: RE: caching static objects

if you're using the jfreechart package for dynamic chart creation, then
there's a setting in that package that you can adjust for whether or not
the chart should be cached or not (and when it expires).


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 From: Kimberly McKinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 4:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: caching static objects
 
 
 We are running Tomcat-standalone and are having some caching 
 issues. It appears to be a browser issue, but there's got to 
 be some workaround. We've got the headers set to pragma 
 nocache, but it continues to cache objects, such as charts 
 that are created dynamically. I suppose this wouldn't be an 
 issue if the code worked with Apache. Also, creating unique 
 identifiers for each object has been shot down. Does anyone 
 know of a way to get server.xml to set each object not to 
 cache? Thanks.
 
 


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RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
I have it running with the thin driver.  I haven't tried OCI.  Doesn't
the OCI driver require some system libraries that have to be declared in
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or loaded via JNI?

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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Subject: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

Does anyone have Tomcat 4.1.x running with connection caching using the
Oracle oci8 driver?  I can get it to work using the thin driver but it
won't
work with the oci8 driver.  The oci8 driver works just fine with the
test
program provided by Oracle, so my configuration is right.  There's
something
about the OracleConnectionCacheImpl class that the oci8 driver doesn't
like.

Here's the error: java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver

Any help would be greatly appreciated.




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RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread David Short
It requires the Oracle client DLLs (or .so files) to be installed in the
correct place and the path setup correctly.  I have tested my oci8
configuration with the JdbcCheck program supplied by Oracle and the oci8
driver works just fine without JNI.  For some reason, it's not working with
JNI.  I've been reading everything I can find on the subject and haven't
seen anything explicitly describing special configurations, outside of what
I've already tried, for JNI.  The documentation states to simply replace
thin with oci8 in the JDBCURL string.  Also, in researching this, I've found
that you need to replace the thin JDBCURL string as follows in the web.xml
file:

Thin driver:
param-valuejdbc:oracle:thin:@serverName:1521:orcl/param-value

oci8 driver:
param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value

Not sure where to go from here.  Perhaps, if you had a few spare moments,
you could try the oci8 driver and see what you come up with?

Thanks

Dave
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:04 AM
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Howdy,
I have it running with the thin driver.  I haven't tried OCI.  Doesn't
the OCI driver require some system libraries that have to be declared in
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or loaded via JNI?

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:14 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

Does anyone have Tomcat 4.1.x running with connection caching using the
Oracle oci8 driver?  I can get it to work using the thin driver but it
won't
work with the oci8 driver.  The oci8 driver works just fine with the
test
program provided by Oracle, so my configuration is right.  There's
something
about the OracleConnectionCacheImpl class that the oci8 driver doesn't
like.

Here's the error: java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver

Any help would be greatly appreciated.




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RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

Not sure where to go from here.  Perhaps, if you had a few spare
moments,
you could try the oci8 driver and see what you come up with?

I don't have a few spare moments, sorry ;)  I'm overloaded as it is.
But one thing I'd make sure is that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is correctly set
in tomcat's startup scripts -- that environment variable is ignored by
defaults, but I think you need to set it up for the JVM to correctly
locate the OCI driver's .so files at runtime.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread Ryan Lissack
Make sure that the directory containing the DLLs/SOs is in your java library
path.  You can check by printing System.getProperty(java.library.path), if
it isn't there you can set it at vm startup (add
-Djava.library.path=/path/to/so)

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Sent: 06 February 2004 16:09
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


It requires the Oracle client DLLs (or .so files) to be installed in the
correct place and the path setup correctly.  I have tested my oci8
configuration with the JdbcCheck program supplied by Oracle and the oci8
driver works just fine without JNI.  For some reason, it's not working with
JNI.  I've been reading everything I can find on the subject and haven't
seen anything explicitly describing special configurations, outside of what
I've already tried, for JNI.  The documentation states to simply replace
thin with oci8 in the JDBCURL string.  Also, in researching this, I've found
that you need to replace the thin JDBCURL string as follows in the web.xml
file:

Thin driver:
param-valuejdbc:oracle:thin:@serverName:1521:orcl/param-value

oci8 driver:
param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value

Not sure where to go from here.  Perhaps, if you had a few spare moments,
you could try the oci8 driver and see what you come up with?

Thanks

Dave
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:04 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.



Howdy,
I have it running with the thin driver.  I haven't tried OCI.  Doesn't
the OCI driver require some system libraries that have to be declared in
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or loaded via JNI?

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:14 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

Does anyone have Tomcat 4.1.x running with connection caching using the
Oracle oci8 driver?  I can get it to work using the thin driver but it
won't
work with the oci8 driver.  The oci8 driver works just fine with the
test
program provided by Oracle, so my configuration is right.  There's
something
about the OracleConnectionCacheImpl class that the oci8 driver doesn't
like.

Here's the error: java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver

Any help would be greatly appreciated.




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RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread David Short
Still no luck.  Here's the output from the
System.getProperty(java.library.path):

java.library.path=c:/orahome/bin;c:/orahome/jdbc/lib

Here's the code:

public class ResourceManagerListener implements ServletContextListener
  {
  private OracleConnectionCacheImpl ds = null;
  private Context ctx = null;

  public void contextInitialized(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();

/*
 * Get the JDBC URL, user, password and limit from the web.xml
 * context init parameters
 */
String jdbcURL  = application.getInitParameter(jdbcURL);
String user = application.getInitParameter(user);
String password = application.getInitParameter(password);
String minLimit = application.getInitParameter(minLimit);
String maxLimit = application.getInitParameter(maxLimit);
try
  {
  ds = new OracleConnectionCacheImpl();
  ds.setURL(jdbcURL);
  ds.setUser(user);
  ds.setPassword(password);
  ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit));
  ds.setMaxLimit(Integer.parseInt(maxLimit));
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
   application.log(Failed to create data source:  + e.getMessage());
 this is where it fails.
  }

/*
  Initialize the database connection pool.
*/
try
  {
  ctx = new InitialContext();
  ctx.lookup(java:comp/env/jdbc/altura);
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
  application.log(Failed to create database connection pool:  +
e.getMessage());
  }

application.setAttribute(appDataSource, ds);
}

  public void contextDestroyed(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();
application.removeAttribute(appDataSource);
// Close the connections in the DataSource
try
  {
  ds.close();
  }
catch (java.sql.SQLException e)
  {}

ds = null;
}
  }

Here are the web.xml entries:

  context-param
param-namejdbcURL/param-name

param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameuser/param-name
param-valueuserName/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namepassword/param-name
param-valuepassword/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namemaxLimit/param-name
param-value50/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameminLimit/param-name
param-value5/param-value
  /context-param


and the Tomcat application error log message:

2004-02-06 08:57:05 Failed to create data source: No suitable driver


There is a strange twist.  If I use the oci8 driver, with the
ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit)); line above, this message appears
in the Tomcat application log.  If I comment out the line, no message
appears, but when I try to get a connection, I get the
java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver message and the application fails.



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Lissack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:21 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


Make sure that the directory containing the DLLs/SOs is in your java library
path.  You can check by printing System.getProperty(java.library.path), if
it isn't there you can set it at vm startup (add
-Djava.library.path=/path/to/so)

-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2004 16:09
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


It requires the Oracle client DLLs (or .so files) to be installed in the
correct place and the path setup correctly.  I have tested my oci8
configuration with the JdbcCheck program supplied by Oracle and the oci8
driver works just fine without JNI.  For some reason, it's not working with
JNI.  I've been reading everything I can find on the subject and haven't
seen anything explicitly describing special configurations, outside of what
I've already tried, for JNI.  The documentation states to simply replace
thin with oci8 in the JDBCURL string.  Also, in researching this, I've found
that you need to replace the thin JDBCURL string as follows in the web.xml
file:

Thin driver:
param-valuejdbc:oracle:thin:@serverName:1521:orcl/param-value

oci8 driver:
param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value

Not sure where to go from here.  Perhaps, if you had a few spare moments,
you could try the oci8 driver and see what you come up with?

Thanks

Dave
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:04 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.



Howdy,
I have it running with the thin driver.  I haven't tried OCI.  Doesn't
the OCI driver require some system libraries that have to be declared in
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or loaded via JNI

RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread Ryan Lissack
I have only used the oci driver under Oracle 9i. Our url looked something
like this though:

jdbc:oracle:oci:@TNS_ENTRY_NAME

where TNS_ENTRY_NAME is an entry in
[ORACLE_CLIENT_HOME]/network/ADMIN/tnsnames.ora

So for you, something like this ...

TNS_ENTRY_NAME =
(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl))


-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2004 17:20
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


Still no luck.  Here's the output from the
System.getProperty(java.library.path):

java.library.path=c:/orahome/bin;c:/orahome/jdbc/lib

Here's the code:

public class ResourceManagerListener implements ServletContextListener
  {
  private OracleConnectionCacheImpl ds = null;
  private Context ctx = null;

  public void contextInitialized(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();

/*
 * Get the JDBC URL, user, password and limit from the web.xml
 * context init parameters
 */
String jdbcURL  = application.getInitParameter(jdbcURL);
String user = application.getInitParameter(user);
String password = application.getInitParameter(password);
String minLimit = application.getInitParameter(minLimit);
String maxLimit = application.getInitParameter(maxLimit);
try
  {
  ds = new OracleConnectionCacheImpl();
  ds.setURL(jdbcURL);
  ds.setUser(user);
  ds.setPassword(password);
  ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit));
  ds.setMaxLimit(Integer.parseInt(maxLimit));
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
   application.log(Failed to create data source:  + e.getMessage());
 this is where it fails.
  }

/*
  Initialize the database connection pool.
*/
try
  {
  ctx = new InitialContext();
  ctx.lookup(java:comp/env/jdbc/altura);
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
  application.log(Failed to create database connection pool:  +
e.getMessage());
  }

application.setAttribute(appDataSource, ds);
}

  public void contextDestroyed(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();
application.removeAttribute(appDataSource);
// Close the connections in the DataSource
try
  {
  ds.close();
  }
catch (java.sql.SQLException e)
  {}

ds = null;
}
  }

Here are the web.xml entries:

  context-param
param-namejdbcURL/param-name

param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameuser/param-name
param-valueuserName/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namepassword/param-name
param-valuepassword/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namemaxLimit/param-name
param-value50/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameminLimit/param-name
param-value5/param-value
  /context-param


and the Tomcat application error log message:

2004-02-06 08:57:05 Failed to create data source: No suitable driver


There is a strange twist.  If I use the oci8 driver, with the
ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit)); line above, this message appears
in the Tomcat application log.  If I comment out the line, no message
appears, but when I try to get a connection, I get the
java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver message and the application fails.



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Lissack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:21 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


Make sure that the directory containing the DLLs/SOs is in your java library
path.  You can check by printing System.getProperty(java.library.path), if
it isn't there you can set it at vm startup (add
-Djava.library.path=/path/to/so)

-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2004 16:09
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


It requires the Oracle client DLLs (or .so files) to be installed in the
correct place and the path setup correctly.  I have tested my oci8
configuration with the JdbcCheck program supplied by Oracle and the oci8
driver works just fine without JNI.  For some reason, it's not working with
JNI.  I've been reading everything I can find on the subject and haven't
seen anything explicitly describing special configurations, outside of what
I've already tried, for JNI.  The documentation states to simply replace
thin with oci8 in the JDBCURL string.  Also, in researching this, I've found
that you need to replace the thin JDBCURL string as follows in the web.xml
file:

Thin driver:
param-valuejdbc:oracle:thin:@serverName:1521:orcl/param-value

oci8 driver:
param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param

RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.

2004-02-06 Thread David Short
Are you using it with connection caching?

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Lissack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:09 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


I have only used the oci driver under Oracle 9i. Our url looked something
like this though:

jdbc:oracle:oci:@TNS_ENTRY_NAME

where TNS_ENTRY_NAME is an entry in
[ORACLE_CLIENT_HOME]/network/ADMIN/tnsnames.ora

So for you, something like this ...

TNS_ENTRY_NAME =
(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl))


-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2004 17:20
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


Still no luck.  Here's the output from the
System.getProperty(java.library.path):

java.library.path=c:/orahome/bin;c:/orahome/jdbc/lib

Here's the code:

public class ResourceManagerListener implements ServletContextListener
  {
  private OracleConnectionCacheImpl ds = null;
  private Context ctx = null;

  public void contextInitialized(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();

/*
 * Get the JDBC URL, user, password and limit from the web.xml
 * context init parameters
 */
String jdbcURL  = application.getInitParameter(jdbcURL);
String user = application.getInitParameter(user);
String password = application.getInitParameter(password);
String minLimit = application.getInitParameter(minLimit);
String maxLimit = application.getInitParameter(maxLimit);
try
  {
  ds = new OracleConnectionCacheImpl();
  ds.setURL(jdbcURL);
  ds.setUser(user);
  ds.setPassword(password);
  ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit));
  ds.setMaxLimit(Integer.parseInt(maxLimit));
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
   application.log(Failed to create data source:  + e.getMessage());
 this is where it fails.
  }

/*
  Initialize the database connection pool.
*/
try
  {
  ctx = new InitialContext();
  ctx.lookup(java:comp/env/jdbc/altura);
  }
catch (Exception e)
  {
  application.log(Failed to create database connection pool:  +
e.getMessage());
  }

application.setAttribute(appDataSource, ds);
}

  public void contextDestroyed(ServletContextEvent sce)
{
ServletContext application  = sce.getServletContext();
application.removeAttribute(appDataSource);
// Close the connections in the DataSource
try
  {
  ds.close();
  }
catch (java.sql.SQLException e)
  {}

ds = null;
}
  }

Here are the web.xml entries:

  context-param
param-namejdbcURL/param-name

param-value(description=(address=(host=serverName)(protocol=tcp)(port=1521
))(connect_data=(sid=orcl)))/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameuser/param-name
param-valueuserName/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namepassword/param-name
param-valuepassword/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-namemaxLimit/param-name
param-value50/param-value
  /context-param

  context-param
param-nameminLimit/param-name
param-value5/param-value
  /context-param


and the Tomcat application error log message:

2004-02-06 08:57:05 Failed to create data source: No suitable driver


There is a strange twist.  If I use the oci8 driver, with the
ds.setMinLimit(Integer.parseInt(minLimit)); line above, this message appears
in the Tomcat application log.  If I comment out the line, no message
appears, but when I try to get a connection, I get the
java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver message and the application fails.



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Lissack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:21 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


Make sure that the directory containing the DLLs/SOs is in your java library
path.  You can check by printing System.getProperty(java.library.path), if
it isn't there you can set it at vm startup (add
-Djava.library.path=/path/to/so)

-Original Message-
From: David Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2004 16:09
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Tomcat, Oracle and connection caching.


It requires the Oracle client DLLs (or .so files) to be installed in the
correct place and the path setup correctly.  I have tested my oci8
configuration with the JdbcCheck program supplied by Oracle and the oci8
driver works just fine without JNI.  For some reason, it's not working with
JNI.  I've been reading everything I can find on the subject and haven't
seen anything explicitly describing special configurations, outside of what
I've already tried, for JNI.  The documentation states to simply replace
thin with oci8 in the JDBCURL string.  Also, in researching this, I've found
that you need to replace the thin JDBCURL string

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