Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems
> the quick updates feature That is not necessarily a good thing. I would rather say it may be risky (not tested well enough). > Plus the hardened packages are the cherry on top! What are these? > if you have a libreboot laptop I don't and I am not planning one for the moment. I just don't see why I should buy yet another buggy (and low performance) CPU. > Just my two cents for ya... Thanks. My 2 cents on less popular distros would be the community support. I have been using SUSE (now openSUSE) for many years and I really like it. 10+ years ago I also used Red Hat for a while, tried Debian (and couldn't stick to it, looked too difficult at that time). What I like about SUSE is not only the ease of use and stability but also the great community support and the speed at which bugs are handled. Yesterday for example I found a critical bug in the latest NVIDIA driver and reported it. A few hours later people have been finding (and perhaps already found) ways to fix it. Also when more people are using/testing something that makes it better verified. I am not sure if exotic distros can offer anything like that - that's my main concern with them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
Own network = a network in which you can communicate without external interference, independent of company X, Y, Z.
[Trisquel-users] Kernel Panic Using Virt-Manager on Trisquel and libreboot
I am attempting to install PureOS 8.0 (beta) on a libreboot Taurinus laptop running Trisquel 8 using virt-manager. Everytime I try to create the PureOS virtual machine, I get a black screen filled with a whole lot of meaningless stuff on it. The screen freezes so all I can do is restart the laptop. Each time I've attempted this, the "stuff" on the frozen black screen is different, the only thing that appears to be constant is the term "Kernel Panic". I tried searching online to figure out what this means and what I should do, but there doesn't seem to be much related to Trisquel and libreboot, and what I did find was FAR above what I am able to comprehend. (I am NOT a computer person, I'm just an ordinary guy who would like to make this work.) How can I find out - in terms I can understand - what is wrong, and what I should do? Thanks in advance for any help.
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
ETS does too. The current ETS kernel is 4.4, and KPTI appeared in 4.4.110.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How will libreboot deal with Meltdown and Spectre?
I would guess that not executing proprietary code is a good solution, but I would also say, Leah probably will come up with something somewhere down the road if it is needed. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
Ah you misunderstand, I meant within the website itself. Kind of like posteo.de's method of doing so.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
Interesting, its worth looking up I am sure. I don't quite know the answer at this time.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems
I have distro hopped between devuan, parabola and trisquel a few times. But I finally found what I was looking for in hyperbola. One of which being, the quick updates feature. The other being, the packages are updated way more often then devuan. And the last being, its all free software man! Not to mention for me I am not fond of systemd... some people aren't. I am one of them. Plus the hardened packages are the cherry on top! :) If you need help accessing wifi after you boot into a dm such as lxdm, there is an easy way, nmtui! at least in hyperbola anyways. But let me tell you something, if you have a libreboot laptop, and are patient enough to do this all at a reasonable pace, FDE! if not, and you know how to do encrypted /home and root, then by all means, do so. But in my opinion, its easy to install following the instructions as long as you don't want encryption. Although calamares is in the works... But yeah, till that is done, I highly recommend being patient with encrypted install. Their libreboot fde install is working nicely, but anything in between may be a little bit harder. Just my two cents for ya...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
By 'Own network' are you referring to using Mesh Network?
[Trisquel-users] Re : ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
I am not sure about the extended-term support (ETS) version. I am certain that all other versions that jxself's repository currently propose have the KPTI patches.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Free email providers
I still haven't figured out how to add a gpg key to it yet Have you tried following the steps on https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/index.html ?
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
Okay thanks. Which kernel has the meltdown patch?:)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_ring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
You said a ways up that there is no perfect solution. This is true as humans, we make errors, and mistakes and are constantly improving our ways and techniques... But that last line about God, yes, if by that you are saying that because of the old testament I agree wholeheartedly. But there is a reason for a new testament. One book shows that we should obey and honor him and shows his mercy and love. but that's besides the point. Yes, things you cannot see can be dangerous. But how do you know what you see and what you don't see. People are sometimes deceptive let's say and make something that looks nice and shiny but has all this crap lurking within to spy on you, etc, But that aside, I completely agree with you on amd and intel. They are both shit. ARM is a mixed bag though. Shakti on the other hand I really hope is worth something far beyond all the others. We disagree on spiritual stuff, and agree on matters of free software mostly I am sure. Personally I don't think God wants us to blindly trust everything in our world. That could lead to great evil after all. And it has many times due to people abusing his name alas... False teachers, decievers, evil people... none of whom do anything but try and taint his name for their own personal game. Long rant, my bad... ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Voxware MetaSound works!
hmm... I suppose that makes sense. Yep it works for me too. Good ol Hyperbola!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
ring -2 and ring -3? hmm... I don't know much about ring, I just know for desktops its pretty freakin decent. I should also add 4gb cloud storage and also, it costs nothing unless you donate. Its copyleft and also, Oh, not that this helps you persay, but, https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=disroot.org A+ I use Hyperbola and use their email through icedove 52.6.0 works good for me. I still haven't figured out how to add a gpg key to it yet, but someday it will be easier I am sure. That's my thoughts anyways. but they do have good ciphers in general.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
> Disroot.org is the best free one. Which others have you compared, on what criteria and how do they handle the ring -2 and -3 issues?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
What do you think of Autistici/Inventati? I've done some research, and they seem to be solid in terms of the security and privacy they offer.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
Why should the communication go through "your own network"? Those are your words. Isn't your interlocutor entitled to control the network carrying the communication as much as you are? Should you and your interlocutor build a network you administrate together? Good luck if an ocean separates you! Should a network be built for each pair of contacts?
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
Meltdown and Spectre are two recently discovered vulnerabilities that affect many computers. https://meltdownattack.com You have a Mac if I recall correctly, so you have an Intel chipset and are affect by both Meltdown and Spectre. Meltdown has been patched in recent versions of the Linux kernel, although unfortunately it will slow down your machine a bit. There is no patch for Spectre at this time, but it can be mitigated. You can install a more recent kernel from jxself's repo. https://jxself.org
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
What?
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
Explain?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
By the way, God is. In 1995, I was at a something called cardozo or cardoso's house in the Cuba. Santería is a system of beliefs... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santer%C3%ADa
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
Did you even read my post? It almost feels as if you're replying to somebody else... you completely missed my point.
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
The meltdown patch.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
> Yes. But MB likes to twist words and argue over the twist :) It seems so... > Encryption itself is safe but the endpoints are infected by proprietary software running at ring -2 and -3 which means the private keys are not protected. Read this post and watch the video linked inside it and you will understand: Allright, thanks. Perhaps I'll take a look.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
> You can set up a communicative network with more people than yourself and still be isolated from the Internet. I think that was what he meant. Yes. But MB likes to twist words and argue over the twist :) > How come there are people talking about encryption not being safe? And may I ask for an elaboration on why that is the "solution"? Encryption itself is safe but the endpoints are infected by proprietary software running at ring -2 and -3 which means the private keys are not protected. Read this post and watch the video linked inside it and you will understand: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/free-email-providers#comment-127945
[Trisquel-users] Re : Free email providers
The email provider does NOT run only free software. NO computer in this world
does that as of today. I wonder why it is so difficult for most people here
to understand this.
I wonder why it is so difficult for you to understand that it is *not*
quantumgravity's point. He even started his reply to your question ("which
online service provider runs on RYF hardware with FOSS firmware and
software?") with "No, that's not at all the question". The central point of
his reply is:
Even if he does run only free software, he could still mistreat you by
copying your mails, reading them, selling your data etc (just examples here).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
1. I don't think that was what he meant. You can set up a communicative network with more people than yourself and still be isolated from the Internet. I think that was what he meant. 2. You say: Free software end-to-end encryption, using good-enough cyphers and protocols, is the solution. It works on the Internet. How come there are people talking about encryption not being safe? And may I ask for an elaboration on why that is the "solution"? 3. You say: That is for the data. For the meta-data, the best we have is Tor. May I ask what you mean by this?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
With your own isolated network you would only communicate with yourself, i.e., not communicate. Free software end-to-end encryption, using good-enough cyphers and protocols, is the solution. It works on the Internet. That is for the data. For the meta-data, the best we have is Tor. Both solutions imply compromises: user-friendliness and performance are traded for privacy.
Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
Some of your hardware might have better support in a newer kernel. If this one is working fine I wouldn't update it as it could only cause problems you did not have before.
[Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel
So when I install Trisquel with the generic (4.4.0-112-generic) kernel everything is working dandy. Could someone ELI5 the potentially advantages of updating the kernel?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where to sell Libreboot devices
Yeah, I know, I know, I should have contacted eBay. I only got to a page where everything was so generic that I thought I'd check here if anyone knew. I'll try checking the "include description" box. Thank you for your answer!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I hope it won't be a 1.April joke :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
> The question is: which online service provider runs on RYF hardware with FOSS firmware and software? Vikings [1] will soon lunch their librehosting service and I asked them at FOSDEM when they will be ready to deliver. They said that they would start in April 2018 with email hosting first and afterwards continue with the librehosting service. They run on free hardware + FOSS software (Talos 1 and Talos 2) [2] [1] https://vikings.net/ [2] https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
> 1.Is there a perfect method to guard our electrical communication against an attacks of peepers? Only if you create your own network, completely isolated from the Internet. For Internet: Abdullah's advice is perhaps the best compromise.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?
Ramazanoglu bey, I thought over what your suggestion. I am going to buy a libreboot laptop. I am desiring to touch a cleaner machine, and I think I should see those dirt. If they let he go to eat for playing safe, I will able to move it symmetrically as my usual tried and favorite methods.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems
I admire the passion you have for this distro :) I am definitely going to give it a try when I have time.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers
> It's not *your* computer but theirs, and so asking for an email provider that runs only free software on their servers is actually being concerned about *their* freedom. The email provider does NOT run only free software. NO computer in this world does that as of today. I wonder why it is so difficult for most people here to understand this. Firmware (Intel ME, microcode, BIOS) IS a program and it is NOT free. And there is NO online service provider running on CPUs without Spectre and Meltdown. NONE. It has been demonstrated by top security experts that all these systems are extremely vulnerable and to this moment there are only mitigations because fixes require actual new hardware. You won't fix that with with recommendations, endorsements, theories, philosophies or links from gnu.org. The problem is much bigger than your petty little computer. I wonder why you don't see it. There is no real freedom or respect for it in is such environment because there are no devices which do this, i.e. it is physically impossible. If you don't have the freedom to communicate privately - who cares about anything else? The biggest issue today is surveillance. Accept it or create something new and give it to humankind.
