Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Each generation must apprehend then apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question.. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every
generation. God does not change and neither does His Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As Dean
warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply the
truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour
newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some
recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community.
FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this
dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth?
They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim
is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group.
They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them :
What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no
reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
So why
did jd inquire of you about
them? Was that honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006
20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They have been
in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or
not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the
topic.
From:
ShieldsFamily
Why dont you
contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest
of us. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed to
ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on
this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend
and apply' so as to demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is
NOT fixed and eternal..'?
Further Judy, should we actually be attempting to
exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing around
a calf').
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 06:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every
generation. God does not change and neither does His Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As Dean
warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply the
truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour
newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture.
Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing
community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this
dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth?
They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they
claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the
group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked
them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have
gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
So
why did jd inquire of you
about them? Was that honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar
2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They have
been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe
it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the
topic.
From:
ShieldsFamily
Why dont
you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the
rest of us. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed to
ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on
this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate to
me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT
fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean by
the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be attempting to
exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing
around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it is not a
"shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of idolatry, I
examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature" children of wrath. That
is unless we walk after the "new nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in
every generation. God does not change and neither does His
Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As
Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a
calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply the
truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO
favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of
scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the
believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did
this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe
Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which
they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority
of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever-
I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to
date have gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
So
why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that
honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar
2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They have
been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and
believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem
to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why dont
you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do
the rest of us. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed
to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are
missed on this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it a
shot' as it were.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:22
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate
to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT
fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean by
the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be attempting
to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing
around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it is not
a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of idolatry, I
examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature" children of wrath.
That is unless we walk after the "new nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in
every generation. God does not change and neither does His
Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As
Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a
calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply
the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason
IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of
scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the
believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did
this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe
Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking
religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision
of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male /
Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that
God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this
question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
So
why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that
honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar
2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They
have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and
believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I
seem to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why
dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses,
as do the rest of us. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed
to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are
missed on this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
I am saying that I don't understand your question
Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it really
that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it a
shot' as it were.
From: Judy Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate
to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is
NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean
by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot'
necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it is
not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of
idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature"
children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new
nature"
From: Judy
Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in
every generation. God does not change and neither does His
Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As
Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a
calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply
the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason
IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text
of scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to
the believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when
did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or
truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group
thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by
the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if
God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the
majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply
to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
So
why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that
honest??? iz
On Mon, 13
Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They
have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary-
and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of
which I seem to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why
dont you contact them directly? You have their email
addresses, as do the rest of us.
iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we
allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH?
They are missed on this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and
eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons
interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you (Judy) are
convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural quotations on
any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the possibility of conversation
is over.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
I am saying that I don't understand your question
Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself
again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it really
that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it
a shot' as it were.
From: Judy Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to
demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you
mean by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot'
necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it is
not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of
idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature"
children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new
nature"
From: Judy
Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal
in every generation. God does not change and neither does His
Word
which is forever sealed in heaven.
As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a
calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then
apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one
reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including
the text of scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an
asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that
tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when
did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or
truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group
thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by
the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if
God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the
majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no
reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
So
why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that
honest??? iz
On Mon, 13
Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They
have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary-
and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of
which I seem to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why
dont you contact them directly? You have their email
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Do you think that you could change the mind of one who might fit the description of Acts 15:26? Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.Would you say that men that put their own lives in hazard are not somewaht DOGMATIC? Would you admit that some (not all) you claim to follow had strong beliefs and were thenas you say, Dogmatic?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you (Judy) are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the possibility of conversation is over.- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departedI am saying that I don't understand your question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself again. Why are you so full of conditions - is it really that difficult to say what you mean?On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it a shot' as it were.From: Judy Taylor On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?I say that truth IS fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean by the above ...Further Judy, should we actually be attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing around a calf'). I think so Lance, and BTW it is not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new nature" From: Judy Taylor Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither does His Word which is forever sealed in heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a calf.On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Each generation must apprehend then apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an
asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group
thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question.. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM Subject: RE:
[TruthTalk] The dearly departed So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? izOn Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. izFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
So what you are saying Lance is that there is no
"objective truth?" That in fact if I say dog, you could be
hearing cat? which means there is no such
thing as a dog because this is just my interpretation?
And if I write exactly what is written in
scripture - because IYO truth changes generationally and according to culture
then it really isn't truth because they could be saying dog and I might be
hearing cat. Is this what you are saying Lance?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:47:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and
eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons
interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you (Judy)
are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural quotations
on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the possibility of
conversation is over.
From: Judy Taylor
I am saying that I don't understand your
question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself
again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it
really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give
it a shot' as it were.
From: Judy
Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to
demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you
mean by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot'
necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it
is not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of
idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature"
children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new
nature"
From: Judy
Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and
eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither does
His Word
which is forever sealed in
heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing
around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then
apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but
one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts,
including the text of scripture. Some recent christian
teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd
dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since
when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or
truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their
group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation
given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim
to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them :
What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have
gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
So
why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that
honest??? iz
On Mon,
13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
There is objective truth, Judy. Some of that which
you say is.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
So what you are saying Lance is that there is no
"objective truth?" That in fact if I say dog, you could be
hearing cat? which means there is no such
thing as a dog because this is just my interpretation?
And if I write exactly what is written in
scripture - because IYO truth changes generationally and according to culture
then it really isn't truth because they could be saying dog and I might be
hearing cat. Is this what you are saying Lance?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:47:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and
eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons
interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you (Judy)
are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural
quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the
possibility of conversation is over.
From: Judy Taylor
I am saying that I don't understand your
question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself
again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it
really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll
'give it a shot' as it were.
From: Judy
Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to
demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS
fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you
mean by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot'
necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it
is not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full
of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by
nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new
nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and
eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither does
His Word
which is forever sealed in
heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing
around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then
apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but
one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts,
including the text of scripture. Some recent christian
teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW,
I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since
when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or
truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their
group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation
given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim
to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them :
What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date
have gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006
11:58:47 AM
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
You haven't answered my question Lance
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:03:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is objective truth, Judy. Some of that
which you say is.
From: Judy Taylor
So what you are saying Lance is that there is
no "objective truth?" That in fact if I say dog, you could be
hearing cat? which means there is no
such thing as a dog because this is just my interpretation?
And if I write exactly what is written
in scripture - because IYO truth changes generationally and according to
culture then it really isn't truth because they could be saying dog and I
might be hearing cat. Is this what you are saying
Lance?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:47:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and
eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons
interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you
(Judy) are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural
quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the
possibility of conversation is over.
From: Judy
Taylor
I am saying that I don't understand your
question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself
again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it
really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll
'give it a shot' as it were.
From: Judy
Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to
demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth
IS fixed and eternal so would you
pleaseexplain what you mean by the above
...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot'
necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW
it is not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts
full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by
nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new
nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and
eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither
does His Word
which is forever sealed in
heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing
around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend
then apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This
is but one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred
texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent christian
teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW,
I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE:
[TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since
when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about
honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine
testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim
is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority
of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female
or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided
that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this
question..
- Original Message
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
I believe that I have answered your question, Judy.
As you believe that I have not then, we are at an impasse. I've gone beyond the
suggested quota for they day (number of posts) so, for the time being, I'll
leave it there.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 08:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
You haven't answered my question Lance
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:03:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
There is objective truth, Judy. Some of that
which you say is.
From: Judy Taylor
So what you are saying Lance is that there is
no "objective truth?" That in fact if I say dog, you could be
hearing cat? which means there is no
such thing as a dog because this is just my interpretation?
And if I write exactly what is written
in scripture - because IYO truth changes generationally and according to
culture then it really isn't truth because they could be saying dog and I
might be hearing cat. Is this what you are saying
Lance?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:47:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity
and eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some
persons interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once
you (Judy) are convinced that your statements concerning the truth
(Scriptural quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then,
even the possibility of conversation is over.
From: Judy
Taylor
I am saying that I don't understand your
question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself
again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it
really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll
'give it a shot' as it were.
From: Judy Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to
demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth
IS fixed and eternal so would you
pleaseexplain what you mean by the above
...
Further Judy, should we actually be
attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last
'shot' necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and
BTW it is not a "shot" We all come into this world with
hearts full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we
are all "by nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk
after the "new nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and
eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither
does His Word
which is forever sealed in
heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not
dancing around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend
then apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time.
This is but one reason IFO favour newer translations of all
sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent
christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing
community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE:
[TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again
since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Along these same lines, I view the biblical message as "truth" with the belief that such is absolute. My interpretation of same can never be considered [by me] as absolute. Paul's word of caution, "when you think to know something, you do not yet know it as you should," is always in order.But,, to my simple way of thinking, I take courage in knowing that Iam trying to apprehend that which is true. At the same time, perhaps we make too much of the abstract and not enough of the person of God, Himself, in our lives. I Cor 8:1ff does contrast the knowing to the loving.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and eternality' of truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons interpretations. I'd say to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you (Judy) are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the possibility of conversation is over.
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
I am saying that I don't understand your question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself again.
Why are you so full of conditions - is it really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it a shot' as it were.
From: Judy Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS fixed and eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be attempting to exhibit a 'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing around a calf').
I think so Lance, and BTW it is not a "shot" We all come into this world with hearts full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new nature"
From: Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither does His Word
which is forever sealed in heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply the truth in a manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour newer translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From: Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some.
jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Wrong, Lance. I can be sure I am right and
still discuss it with someone else who (a) also thinks I am right, (b) thinks I
am wrong and wants to debate the issue. I cannot, however, have a conversation
with someone who is sure HE, also, is right, and does not want to discuss it with me if I think I
am right, OR if HE thinks NO ONE can EVER be right, OR if HE cannot figure out
WHAT he thinks is right, OR how to defend what he thinks is right because there
is NO LOGIC TO IT AT ALL! iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
6:47 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
dearly departed
I've no problem acknowledging the 'fixity and eternality' of
truth. I do, however, have a problem with some persons interpretations. I'd say
to you that which I said to Kevin: Once you
(Judy) are convinced that your statements concerning the truth (Scriptural
quotations on any subject) are themselves the truth then, even the possibility
of conversation is over.
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006
07:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
I am saying
that I don't understand your question Lance - so it looks likeyou have
excused yourself again.
Why are you
so full of conditions - is it really that difficult to say what you mean?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:31:49 -0500
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
When you answer my question then, I'll 'give it a shot' as
it were.
From: Judy Taylor
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate
to me that therein lies the meaning 'truth is NOT fixed and eternal..'?
I say that truth IS fixed and
eternal so would you pleaseexplain what you mean by the above ...
Further Judy, should we actually be attempting to exhibit a
'new and improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing around a
calf').
I think so Lance, and
BTW it is not a shot We all come into this world with hearts
full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all by
nature children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the new
nature
From: Judy Taylor
Not so
Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every generation. God does not change and
neither does His Word
which is
forever sealed in heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not
dancing around a calf.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Each generation must apprehend then apply the truth in a
manner appropriate to its time. This is but one reason IFO favour newer
translations of all sacred texts, including the text of scripture. Some recent
christian teaching/writing is an asset to the believing community. FWIW, I'd
dance to that tune.
- Original Message -
From: Dean Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006
15:46
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
cd: No, it was not honest.
But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about
honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group
thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision
of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or
whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to
date have gotten no reply to this question..
- Original Message -
From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
The dearly departed
So why did jd
inquire of you about them? Was
that honest??? iz
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500
Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd; They have been in
contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen
tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic.
From: ShieldsFamily
Why dont you contact them directly?
You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of
Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some.
jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I alsoreason to believethat they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotionin the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-butI refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd -- Original message -- From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Unless I missed some announcement, we're
'moderatorless' at the moment.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 11:42
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
Why would you prefer
to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife?
iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But
thanks for the well meaning advice.
jd
-- Original message --
From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why dont you
contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us.
iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
By the way -- are we allowed to ask as
to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by
some.
jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Linda, how is it troublesome to ask about those who are on temporary leave? I have been with TT for over two years, now, and no one to my memory has ever been permanently removed. Plus -- the last time I wrote to Dean on the side - my mail came back. So , maybe you are not as fully imformed as you pretend to be. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would investigate and let him know. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Dean has assured us that he will continue with TT in order to give his defense. Assuming that is still the case - explain this: "This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food," Didn't have "no appreciation?" Really --Just for the record -- when Dean suddenly cut me off this last time, he did not contact me a single timenot even to tell me I was removed. I even offered my phone number to him with no response. Off hiding somewhere, apparently. There was nothing offered by Dean that could have been remotely similar to something for which I should be appreciative -- nothing. His troubles are of his own doing. Calling me childish namesas he tries to escape personal responsibility for his own actions is ridiculous. Why he was installed as Moderator is a mystery to me -- but Dean is responsible for Dean, that I know. And I will leave it at that. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would i nvestigate and let him know. David Miller- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? & gt; - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the sta tus of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
'Why he was installed as Moderator' is a mystery to
me also. This is a task that was simply beyond his abilities and, IMO, DM either
knew or, should have known that.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 14, 2006 13:07
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly
departed
Dean has assured us that he will continue with TT in order to give his
defense. Assuming that is still the case - explain
this: "This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show
signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of
that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started
feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't
have no appreciation for the food,"
Didn't have "no appreciation?" Really
--Just for the record -- when Dean suddenly cut me off
this last time, he did not contact me a single timenot even to
tell me I was removed. I even offered my phone number to
him with no response. Off hiding somewhere,
apparently. There was nothing offered by Dean that could have been
remotely similar to something for which I should be appreciative
-- nothing. His troubles are of his own doing.
Calling me childish namesas he tries to escape personal responsibility
for his own actions is ridiculous. Why he was installed as
Moderator is a mystery to me -- but Dean is responsible for Dean,
that I know. And I will leave it at that.
jd
--
Original message -- From: "David Miller"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] These comments are out of line. The
only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me
just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being
moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with
some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list.
This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this
activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I
have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even
know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave
Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking
me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his
submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would
i nvestigate and let him know. David Miller
- Original Message - From: Dean
Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March
14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also
reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the
phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put
a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have
it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show
signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he
reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while
I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog
in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the
pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound
familiar? gt; - Original Message - From:
Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so
love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with
stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006
20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary-
and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I
seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily
Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email
addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the sta tus of
Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some.
jd -- "Let your speech be always
with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to
answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
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You are transparent even though you do not believe it.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda, how is it troublesome to ask about those who are on temporary leave? I have been with TT for over two years, now, and no one to my memory has ever been permanently removed. Plus -- the last time I wrote to Dean on the side - my mail came back. So , maybe you are not as fully imformed as you pretend to be. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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Vote for JDLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Why he was installed as Moderator' is a mystery to me also. This is a task that was simply beyond his abilities and, IMO, DM either knew or, should have known that.- Original Message -From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 14, 2006 13:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearlydeparted Dean has assured us that he will continue with TT in order to give hisdefense. Assuming that is still the case - explainthis: "This is what happened with John-but I refused till he showsigns of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me ofthat stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I startedfeeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn'thave no appreciation for the food," Didn't have "no appreciation?" Really--Just for the record -- when Dean suddenly cut me offthis last time, he did not contact me a single timenot even totell me I was removed. I even offered my phone number tohim with no response. Off hiding somewhere,apparently. There was nothing offered by Dean that could have beenremotely similar to something for which I should be appreciative-- nothing. His troubles are of his own doing.Calling me childish namesas he tries to escape personal responsibilityfor his own actions is ridiculous. Why he was installed asModerator is a mystery to me -- but Dean is responsible for Dean,that I know. And I will leave it at that. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would i nvestigate and let him know. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departedcd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? gt; - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamilyWhy dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the sta tus of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some.jd -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
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Dean was joking "judge Dean" DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned.jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? izOn Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamilyWhy dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
Dean was joking (?) So was DH. One can do it and another can't??? This is why Pat Robertson will never get my vote for Pres. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean was joking "judge Dean"DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
cd: I have not removed you from my list John-but it is a thought. I suggest you check and see where you sent the mail-If it went to the Mormon Church then open it slowly with Armour on. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 12:02:25 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Linda, how is it troublesome to ask about those who are on temporary leave? I have been with TT for over two years, now, and no one to my memory has ever been permanently removed. Plus -- the last time I wrote to Dean on the side - my mail came back. So , maybe you are not as fully imformed as you pretend to be. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
I wrote from aol, just now, and it came back. Whatever. -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: I have not removed you from my list John-but it is a thought. I suggest you check and see where you sent the mail-If it went to the Mormon Church then open it slowly with Armour on. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 12:02:25 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Linda, how is it troublesome to ask about those who are on temporary leave? I have been with TT for over two years, now, and no one to my memory has ever been permanently removed. Plus -- the last time I wrote to Dean on the side - my mail came back. So , maybe you are not as fully imformed as you pretend to be. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question.. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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cd: Come off it John you were warmed many times - andI contacted you many times and told you how to get back on the list. What more could I do-You refused to apologize.. You told me to "Go to h---". In a public forum- You portrayed David as being evil and you threatened to call Judy's pastor and report her for things you claim she said on TT. Gary called Judy a liar (refused to stop or apologize)and stated using Foul language on TT The (a) word,and DavH continued showing me disrespect after many warnings. I guess I should have just let all this pass-and then I would be liked on TT. I can go to my grave with a clear conscious on this subject-can you? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:07:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Dean has assured us that he will continue with TT in order to give his defense. Assuming that is still the case - explain this: "This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food," Didn't have "no appreciation?" Really --Just for the record -- when Dean suddenly cut me off this last time, he did not contact me a single timenot even to tell me I was removed. I even offered my phone number to him with no response. Off hiding somewhere, apparently. There was nothing offered by Dean that could have been remotely similar to something for which I should be appreciative -- nothing. His troubles are of his own doing. Calling me childish namesas he tries to escape personal responsibility for his own actions is ridiculous. Why he was installed as Moderator is a mystery to me -- but Dean is responsible for Dean, that I know. And I will leave it at that. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would i nvestigate and let him know. David Miller- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? gt; - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to t he sta tus of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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cd: Twisting the facts again John. DaveH was warned many time that I did not like being called this name but continued in doing. In my opinion he was doing this knowing that I would only take it so far and suspend him -He then could claim I called him names and when He called me names in return he got suspended. I see this as aneffort to cause problem between David and myself.My reply to this is :I have proved that Mormons are Pagans with many facts and examples- Dave has yet to prove I am " Judge Dean or apologize.I gave him the opportunity to do such and he did not do so.I contacted him in private -explaining to him how to get back on the site and he refused to apologize so I did not let him back on. If you are going to be an expert on the subject get the facts right or shut upas you do not know what you are talking about. Know that God can forgive this. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 3:09:26 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Dean was joking (?) So was DH. One can do it and another can't??? This is why Pat Robertson will never get my vote for Pres. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean was joking "judge Dean"DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Easy to call a man a liar and a worthless dog when you hide somewhere near the Ozarks, isn't it. The fact of the matter is that I was straight up with you and you have been anything but that with me. The "calf" question, Carroll, who did you ask. The fact is that you and those of your ilk have run and hide from so many questions over the past year that we have lost count. You cannot hang withareal discussion so you go with "worthless dog," "liar," and "Satan's messenger boys"and pretend that you werebetrayed byMiller and backstabbed by who knows who. Just cannot accept personal responsiblity at all. And David knows you personally !!! Your stay as SPing moderator is clear evidence of the importance of keeping folks like you out of serious leadership. We see what fundamental Islam is like. I see little difference in your administration. At one time, not too long agao in fact, I was perfectly willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong. You will get the last word , on this public forum, Dean. Sense we are self-moderatored, for the time being, well, it would be best if I make this my last response ... you have my e-mail address and my phone number. I am in full agreement with Lance. You are a walking time-bomb. But this was not a secret, even before David appointed you. I do think David was thinking something good just might come of your appointment -- but your appointment to any similar position of leadership is a head-scratcher for sure. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question.. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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Dean -- I did not tell you to go to hell. And you did not contact me, as I said. In fact, both times I was excluded by you, I was unaware that it had happened until I sent a post that was returned. And this was your M.O. as moderator. Others were elimninated in the same fashion. You couldn't sustain your false accusation against me concerning Judy and here I am. By the way - I was not going to say anything about "your passing" as moderator . but your continued whinning, lies and name calling have made it necessary to a point. One or two responses from me and then I will give it up. I do not think you should be allowed to continue your rant for much longer. What is the purpose? jd Off-line anytime , Dean. -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: Come off it John you were warmed many times - andI contacted you many times and told you how to get back on the list. What more could I do-You refused to apologize.. You told me to "Go to h---". In a public forum- You portrayed David as being evil and you threatened to call Judy's pastor and report her for things you claim she said on TT. Gary called Judy a liar (refused to stop or apologize)and stated using Foul language on TT The (a) word,and DavH continued showing me disrespect after many warnings. I guess I should have just let all this pass-and then I would be liked on TT. I can go to my grave with a clear conscious on this subject-can you? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:07:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Dean has assured us that he will continue with TT in order to give his defense. Assuming that is still the case - explain this: "This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food," Didn't have "no appreciation?" Really --Just for the record -- when Dean suddenly cut me off this last time, he did not contact me a single timenot even to tell me I was removed. I even offered my phone number to him with no response. Off hiding somewhere, apparently. There was nothing offered by Dean that could have been remotely similar to something for which I should be appreciative -- nothing. His troubles are of his own doing. Calling me childish namesas he tries to escape personal responsibility for his own actions is ridiculous. Why he was installed as Moderator is a mystery to me -- but Dean is responsible for Dean, that I know. And I will leave it at that. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would i nvestigate and let him know. David Miller- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I refused till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a while I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar? gt; - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd;
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I do not believe DH was joking You were not even on line at the time. Did you read the posts?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean was joking (?) So was DH. One can do it and another can't??? This is why Pat Robertson will never get my vote for Pres. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean was joking "judge Dean"DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned.jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? izOn Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamilyWhy dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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LOL there's your problem AOL maybe they should change the name to LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote from aol, just now, and it came back. Whatever.-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]cd: I have not removed you from my list John-but it is a thought. I suggest you check and see where you sent the mail-If it went to the Mormon Church then open it slowly with Armour on. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 12:02:25 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Linda, how is it troublesome to ask about those who are on temporary leave? I have been with TT for over two years, now, and no one to my memory has ever been permanently removed. Plus -- the last time I wrote to Dean on the side - my mail came back. So , maybe you are not as fully imformed as you pretend to be. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would you prefer to ask of our moderator, unless you are attempting to stir up public strife? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:21 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!
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[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/14/2006 12:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]The dearly departed These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate. -- cd: Back to the evil surmising again I see- I said I had reason to believe DavH had called you. Here is my reason for that belief: Note that Perry gave me permission to use this letter. [Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/12/2006 8:49:39 PM Subject: RE: Perry Dean, If they deserved to go, then so be it. When I put DaveH off the list, he entered into a big private email conversation with myself and David M over his getting banned. He and david M even chatted by phone. He never really understood why I banned him. The reason he said he was banned was not the reason I banned him, yet after I explained the real reason to him several times, he continued to quote his imagined reason, I suspect because he felt it better supported his argument for a double standard on TT. I say all of this to let you know that he will bend the story to support his own argument, even when the truth is presented plainly to him. Perry cd: More below. -- From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Perry Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:33:11 -0500 Perry- I just put Daveh and Gary off the list-Things should get interesting now;-) cd: More Below. [Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/12/2006 3:57:56 PM Subject: RE: Perry Dean, Moderating TT is definitely a difficult task. As you know I have unsubscribed from TruthTalk, and to be honest, Dean, I do not have any intentions of rejoining, or being moderator again. I think that truth talk actually did more to weaken my faith than to encourage it, and I don't need that. Now that it is clear to me that TT is actually a secular group intended to discuss whatever anyone thinks is their personal truth, not necessarily Christian truth, I see why it operates as it does. Not only is there no fellowship among the Christians on the group, there is division and strife among the would-be bretheren. It is truly a secular group, and it behaves as such. When I was moderator the best I could do was to watch only for the most blatant ad-hominem references. Many of the people on TT are so self-deceiving and disrespectful of one another that they use ad-hominems and do so slyly that when it is pointed out they have 101 reasons and rationalizations why it was not an ad-hominem, why it was justified, or why didn't you correct do-and-so when he said such-and-such about me? So, the only advice I have, if you choose to remain the moderator, is to continue to point out ad-hominems, continue to disallow public responses or discussions about moderator comments, and ignore the petty wining and sniping. Moderating worked well for me when I had the time to follow every post, but when the traffic became heavy, I lagged behind and appeared to not be moderating at all. And most of all, do not expect to see brotherly love in a secular group. Hope this helps, Dean. Perry - For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately asking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his submissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would investigate and let him know. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to believe that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering in Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion in the mix and there you have it. This is what happened
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cd: John take some more of the medication and relax. I do have access to the letter you sent honoring me for taking the Job. Calm down with that medication or I will have to use it. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 4:41:54 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Easy to call a man a liar and a worthless dog when you hide somewhere near the Ozarks, isn't it. The fact of the matter is that I was straight up with you and you have been anything but that with me. The "calf" question, Carroll, who did you ask. The fact is that you and those of your ilk have run and hide from so many questions over the past year that we have lost count. You cannot hang withareal discussion so you go with "worthless dog," "liar," and "Satan's messenger boys"and pretend that you werebetrayed byMiller and backstabbed by who knows who. Just cannot accept personal responsiblity at all. And David knows you personally !!! Your stay as SPing moderator is clear evidence of the importance of keeping folks like you out of serious leadership. We see what fundamental Islam is like. I see little difference in your administration. At one time, not too long agao in fact, I was perfectly willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong. You will get the last word , on this public forum, Dean. Sense we are self-moderatored, for the time being, well, it would be best if I make this my last response ... you have my e-mail address and my phone number. I am in full agreement with Lance. You are a walking time-bomb. But this was not a secret, even before David appointed you. I do think David was thinking something good just might come of your appointment -- but your appointment to any similar position of leadership is a head-scratcher for sure. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: No, it was not honest. But then again since when did this dancing brotherhood ever worry about honesty-or truth-orThe Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gotten no reply to this question.. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 11:58:47 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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Don't you just love folks that offer EXPERT Testimony about events that transpired in their absence? Lance, where were you when the LDS HI Priest attacked? Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:cd: Twisting the facts again John. DaveH was warned many time that I did not like being called this name but continued in doing. In my opinion he was doing this knowing that I would only take it so far and suspend him -He then could claim I called him names and when He called me names in return he got suspended. I see this as aneffort to cause problem between David and myself.My reply to this is :I have proved that Mormons are Pagans with many facts and examples- Dave has yet to prove I am " Judge Dean or apologize.I gave him the opportunity to do such and he did not do so.I contacted him in private -explaining to him how to get back on the site and he refused to apologize so I did not let him back on. If you are going to be an expert on the subject get the facts right or shut upas you do not know what you are talking about. Know that God can forgive this. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 3:09:26 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Dean was joking (?) So was DH. One can do it and another can't??? This is why Pat Robertson will never get my vote for Pres. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean was joking "judge Dean"DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned.jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? izOn Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamilyWhy dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
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This is one of the problems with the ADHOM rule it will never be administered fairly There has been name calling on this list for as long as I can remember. Some of it flies by seemingly missed by the moderator. BTW NICE dissertation on how much strife the ADHOM rule brings with it Way to go Perry!Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller To: Date: 3/14/2006 12:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]The dearly departed These comments are out of line. The only person I have been on the phone with is Ruben. He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to step down from being moderator. As for e-mail exchange, it has been very minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the list. This is entirely appropriate. The evil surmisings about this activity below are inappropriate.--cd: Back to the evil surmising again I see- I said I had "reason to believeDavH had called you". Here is my reason for that belief: Note that Perrygave me permission to use this letter. [Original Message] From: Charles Perry Locke To: Date: 3/12/2006 8:49:39 PM Subject: RE: Perry Dean, If they deserved to go, then so be it. When I put DaveH off the list, he entered into a big private email conversation with myself and David Mover his getting banned. He and david M even chatted by phone. He never really understood why I banned him. The reason he said he was banned was not the reason I banned him, yet after I explained the real reason to him several times, he continued to quote his imagined reason, I suspect because he felt it better supported his argument for a double standard on TT. I say all of this to let you know that he will bend the story to support his own argument, even when the truth is presented plainly to him. Perrycd: More below.-- From: "Dean Moore" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Charles Perry Locke" Subject: RE: Perry Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:33:11 -0500 Perry- I just put Daveh and Gary off the list-Things should getinteresting now;-)cd: More Below. [Original Message] From: Charles Perry LockeTo:Date: 3/12/2006 3:57:56 PM Subject: RE: Perry Dean, Moderating TT is definitely a difficult task. As you know I have unsubscribed from TruthTalk, and to be honest, Dean, I do not have any intentions of rejoining, or being moderator again. I think that truth talk actually did more to weaken my faith than to encourage it, and I don't need that. Now that it is clear to me that TT is actually a secular group intended to discuss whatever anyone thinks is their personal truth,not necessarily Christian truth, I see why it operates as it does. Notonly is there no fellowship among the Christians on the group, there isdivision and strife among the would-be bretheren. It is truly a secular group, andit behaves as such. When I was moderator the best I could do was to watch only for the most blatant ad-hominem references. Many of the people on TT are so self-deceiving and disrespectful of one another that they use ad-hominems and do so slyly that when it is pointed out they have 101 reasons and rationalizations why it was not an ad-hominem, why it was justified,or "why didn't you correct do-and-so when he said such-and-such about me"? So, the only advice I have, if you choose to remain the moderator, is to continue to point out ad-hominems, continue to disallow publicresponses or discussions about moderator comments, and ignore the petty wining and sniping. Moderating worked well for me when I had the time to follow every post, but when the traffic became heavy, I lagged behind and appearedto not be moderating at all. And most of all, do not expect to see brotherly love in a secular group. Hope this helps, Dean. Perry- For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and did not even know he was taken off the list. I would not have known that Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privatelyasking me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting hissubmissions. I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would investigate andlet him know. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason tobelieve that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whisperingin Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a littl
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First, I was on line at the time. This all happened after I came back. Secondly, Dean most definitely functioned as a Judge AND a jury -- at least with me. He did play the role of Judge. No question. Plus , he used the same language on himself. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not believe DH was jokingYou were not even on line at the time. Did you read the posts?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean was joking (?) So was DH. One can do it and another can't??? This is why Pat Robertson will never get my vote for Pres. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean was joking "judge Dean"DH took oportunity to use it against Dean[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda -- you do not know what you are talking about. See my previous post (written just before this post.) As far as Dean is concerned, I addressed only one comment to David after coming back this last time .. and that was a presentation of Dean calling himself "Judge Dean." That same comment was posted on this site and was ignored by Dean as he continued to criticize DH for using the same language Dean used on himself. Secondly -- G is terminated and I missed the reason for that. None of my business? Perhaps. But , with the changing rules, it would be nice to know of G's violation so that we who remain will have a fighting chance of continuing on this forum. Sounds reasonable to me. At least, that was my reasoning before Dean resigned. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So why did jd inquire of you about them? Was that honest??? iz On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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I have no reason to do it your way, Linda. But thanks for the well meaning advice. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/13/2006 3:55:01 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
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John? I knew he wasrunning for MODERATerr!Thats OK DeanI thought it was way overboard GT' statement about my Mother! Nothing should surprise with this crowd.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/13/2006 3:55:01 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. izFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic. From: ShieldsFamily Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way -- are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? They are missed on this forum by some. jd
