[twitter-dev] Re: Introduce yourself!

[howard]

Great to see the variety of folks on the list.

I'm the founder of the just released http://www.twavatars.com/ , your
twitter avatar's little helper. I worked hard to get it to be a cool,
fun and easy little tool. I'd love to get some feedback from anyone
who's got the time and willingness to do so.

Most fervent wishes are greater platform stability and speed in
general and more bulletproof avatar architecture and handling.

Me = @howardliptzin and @twavatars

[twitter-dev] Re: Avatar change - JSON issue

[howard]

This seems to be a good thread to ask about a roadmap issue about
avatar handling, because it brings up the issue of timeline accuracy
with respect to the avatar.

If you use a mobile user agent to view twitter (I used iPhone 3.0) you
will see an interesting layout difference with respect to avatars.
Each tweet on a single user's page has its own copy of the avatar
place to the left of the tweet. http://mobile.twitter.com/twitter for
example.

There have been many occasions (and these use cases will only increase
over time) in which the avatar was changed and is referenced in the
tweet itself. The green overlay meme for iranelection was such a time.
Another was when @whitehouse, in the run-up to the health care reform
bill, changed their avatar every day (with a number in a blue field)
to refer to an issue that they wanted to highlight.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/como8/4471337214/sizes/o/in/set-72157623597762275/

This contextual history is currently lost forever.

How cool would it have been to see this tweet (@jack s first ever
tweet: http://twitter.com/jack/status/29 ) with the historically
accurate avatar instead of his current one??

Hey twitter guys, does this sound like something you'd like to build
into the platform?

-H

On Apr 27, 2:06 pm, Edi  wrote:
> Thank you. That's all I needed to know :)
>
> On Apr 26, 7:41 pm, Mark McBride  wrote:
>
> > It's in the bug tracker, and on my list of stuff to look at.  Caching
> > in general is a high priority issue at the moment.
>
> >    ---Mark
>
> >http://twitter.com/mccv
>
> --
> Subscription 
> settings:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en

[twitter-dev] PNG's not uploading

[howard]

THe API has not been uploading PNG's as avatars/profile pix that my
app sends. Then I tried on twitter.com directly and surprisingly got
the "there was a problem updating your profile" message.

I tried with a JPG on the website and it worked fine.

Are you aware of the issue?

-H

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API gives different results for different IPs?

[howard]

Hello, we have built a little test page here:
http://twavatars-dev.appspot.com/test?screen_name=freddyxyz

And I'll head over to the code tracker now to post the URL and a
comment.

-H

On Nov 16, 3:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> This is a known issue and is being tracked on the google code tracker  
> for the API - please feel free to add more information about this  
> issue there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:32 AM, Sarp Erdag  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I looks like the methods users/show and account/verify_credentials
> > give different results especially for the "profile_image_url" block
> > when called from different machines. After there is an avatar update
> > (whether from the twitter web ui or over a 3rd party app that uses the
> > api (oauth or basic) when these methods are called from different IPs,
> > I see they are getting different profile_umage_urls. Sometimes the
> > updated version is shown, sometimes not...
>
> > Any recommendations / explanations how to deal with this issue?

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API gives different results for different IPs?

[howard]

Oh, here's the link to the code tracker for anyone interested:
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1183&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Summary%20Opened%20Modified%20Component

On Nov 16, 3:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> This is a known issue and is being tracked on the google code tracker  
> for the API - please feel free to add more information about this  
> issue there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:32 AM, Sarp Erdag  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I looks like the methods users/show and account/verify_credentials
> > give different results especially for the "profile_image_url" block
> > when called from different machines. After there is an avatar update
> > (whether from the twitter web ui or over a 3rd party app that uses the
> > api (oauth or basic) when these methods are called from different IPs,
> > I see they are getting different profile_umage_urls. Sometimes the
> > updated version is shown, sometimes not...
>
> > Any recommendations / explanations how to deal with this issue?

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API gives different results for different IPs?

[howard]

If you need ANY other help, just ask and we can produce other test
pages for you to accelerate the process. Just specify what you need
and we can try to whip up a tool. OK?

We're glad to help.

Raffi, can you tell me where this is on your priority list, so that we
can plan our development? The user experience of our app depends on
getting this resolved, so we may have to devise a strategy to improve
the UX in the meantime.

Thanks again for your speedy responses.

- Howard

On Nov 17, 2:55 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> hey!
>
> this is great - this will help us track down the issue in our system!  
> thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello, we have built a little test page here:
> >http://twavatars-dev.appspot.com/test?screen_name=freddyxyz
>
> > And I'll head over to the code tracker now to post the URL and a
> > comment.
>
> > -H
>
> > On Nov 16, 3:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> >> Hi.
>
> >> This is a known issue and is being tracked on the google code tracker
> >> for the API - please feel free to add more information about this
> >> issue there.
>
> >> Thanks!
>
> >> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:32 AM, Sarp Erdag  wrote:
>
> >>> Hello,
>
> >>> I looks like the methods users/show and account/verify_credentials
> >>> give different results especially for the "profile_image_url" block
> >>> when called from different machines. After there is an avatar update
> >>> (whether from the twitter web ui or over a 3rd party app that uses  
> >>> the
> >>> api (oauth or basic) when these methods are called from different  
> >>> IPs,
> >>> I see they are getting different profile_umage_urls. Sometimes the
> >>> updated version is shown, sometimes not...
>
> >>> Any recommendations / explanations how to deal with this issue?
>
> --
> Raffi Krikorian
> Twitter Platform Team
> ra...@twitter.com | @raffi

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API gives different results for different IPs?

[howard]

I have 3 letters to suggest to you:

CDN

:-)

Hope to hear good news soon!

-H


On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> hi howard.
>
> its on the list - we have a theory as to what is wrong, but that still  
> needs to be investigated, tested, etc.
>
> please just continue to add color and data to the thread on the google  
> code tracker so that we have more information to look at.
>
>
>
>
>
> > If you need ANY other help, just ask and we can produce other test
> > pages for you to accelerate the process. Just specify what you need
> > and we can try to whip up a tool. OK?
>
> > We're glad to help.
>
> > Raffi, can you tell me where this is on your priority list, so that we
> > can plan our development? The user experience of our app depends on
> > getting this resolved, so we may have to devise a strategy to improve
> > the UX in the meantime.
>
> > Thanks again for your speedy responses.
>
> > - Howard
>
> > On Nov 17, 2:55 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> >> hey!
>
> >> this is great - this will help us track down the issue in our system!
> >> thanks!
>
> >>> Hello, we have built a little test page here:
> >>>http://twavatars-dev.appspot.com/test?screen_name=freddyxyz
>
> >>> And I'll head over to the code tracker now to post the URL and a
> >>> comment.
>
> >>> -H
>
> >>> On Nov 16, 3:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> >>>> Hi.
>
> >>>> This is a known issue and is being tracked on the google code  
> >>>> tracker
> >>>> for the API - please feel free to add more information about this
> >>>> issue there.
>
> >>>> Thanks!
>
> >>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:32 AM, Sarp Erdag   
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hello,
>
> >>>>> I looks like the methods users/show and account/verify_credentials
> >>>>> give different results especially for the "profile_image_url"  
> >>>>> block
> >>>>> when called from different machines. After there is an avatar  
> >>>>> update
> >>>>> (whether from the twitter web ui or over a 3rd party app that uses
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> api (oauth or basic) when these methods are called from different
> >>>>> IPs,
> >>>>> I see they are getting different profile_umage_urls. Sometimes the
> >>>>> updated version is shown, sometimes not...
>
> >>>>> Any recommendations / explanations how to deal with this issue?
>
> >> --
> >> Raffi Krikorian
> >> Twitter Platform Team
> >> ra...@twitter.com | @raffi
>
> --
> Raffi Krikorian
> Twitter Platform Team
> ra...@twitter.com | @raffi

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API gives different results for different IPs?

[howard]

We're getting ready to launch an avatar-centric app, and it would be
great to have some idea what the status is of this issue. Thanks.

h


On Nov 21, 6:11 am, howard  wrote:
> I have 3 letters to suggest to you:
>
> CDN
>
> :-)
>
> Hope to hear good news soon!
>
> -H
>
> On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
>
>
>
> > hi howard.
>
> > its on the list - we have a theory as to what is wrong, but that still  
> > needs to be investigated, tested, etc.
>
> > please just continue to add color and data to the thread on the google  
> > code tracker so that we have more information to look at.
>
> > > If you need ANY other help, just ask and we can produce other test
> > > pages for you to accelerate the process. Just specify what you need
> > > and we can try to whip up a tool. OK?
>
> > > We're glad to help.
>
> > > Raffi, can you tell me where this is on your priority list, so that we
> > > can plan our development? The user experience of our app depends on
> > > getting this resolved, so we may have to devise a strategy to improve
> > > the UX in the meantime.
>
> > > Thanks again for your speedy responses.
>
> > > - Howard
>
> > > On Nov 17, 2:55 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> > >> hey!
>
> > >> this is great - this will help us track down the issue in our system!
> > >> thanks!
>
> > >>> Hello, we have built a little test page here:
> > >>>http://twavatars-dev.appspot.com/test?screen_name=freddyxyz
>
> > >>> And I'll head over to the code tracker now to post the URL and a
> > >>> comment.
>
> > >>> -H
>
> > >>> On Nov 16, 3:19 pm, Raffi Krikorian  wrote:
> > >>>> Hi.
>
> > >>>> This is a known issue and is being tracked on the google code  
> > >>>> tracker
> > >>>> for the API - please feel free to add more information about this
> > >>>> issue there.
>
> > >>>> Thanks!
>
> > >>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:32 AM, Sarp Erdag   
> > >>>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> Hello,
>
> > >>>>> I looks like the methods users/show and account/verify_credentials
> > >>>>> give different results especially for the "profile_image_url"  
> > >>>>> block
> > >>>>> when called from different machines. After there is an avatar  
> > >>>>> update
> > >>>>> (whether from the twitter web ui or over a 3rd party app that uses
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> api (oauth or basic) when these methods are called from different
> > >>>>> IPs,
> > >>>>> I see they are getting different profile_umage_urls. Sometimes the
> > >>>>> updated version is shown, sometimes not...
>
> > >>>>> Any recommendations / explanations how to deal with this issue?
>
> > >> --
> > >> Raffi Krikorian
> > >> Twitter Platform Team
> > >> ra...@twitter.com | @raffi
>
> > --
> > Raffi Krikorian
> > Twitter Platform Team
> > ra...@twitter.com | @raffi

[twitter-dev] Re: Any iPhone Twitter apps with OAuth login ?

[howard]

Hello,

I'm looking for a list of iPhone apps using the new Oauth flow. Can
anyone point me to some live apps to see it in action?

Thanks,

H

On Feb 7, 4:14 am, Fabien Penso  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ryan Sarver  wrote:
> > Good news. A mobile-friendly version of the OAuth page is due to be
> > deployed next week (finally!:). We look forward to your feedback on
> > the new screens when they are ready.
>
> Looks much better now, thanks !

[twitter-dev] How're Special Characters Treated in the Search API?

[Howard]

Hi Everyone,

The following query, which includes a period, returns nonsensical
results:
http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=%22Battle+for+Bean+Street%22+OR+%22Battle+for+Bean+St.%22&page=1&rpp=11

Removing the period fixes it. I've looked at
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/w/page/22554756/Twitter-Search-API-Method:-search
and can't find anything about how special characters are treated.

Which characters are considered special and what're the rules
regarding them?


Thanks all!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Didn't someone do a "Show all followers and last tweet"?

[Howard Siegel]

Have you checked the Twitter Fan Wiki list of apps
http://twitter.pbwiki.com/Apps

- h

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:51, TjL  wrote:

>
> I've been trying without success to find a Twitter 3rd party app that
> I thought I saw awhile ago:
>
> Put in your username and it shows all your followers on one page with
> their icon and their latest update.
>
> Anyone know what it's called?
>
> I need to start bookmarking these Twitter services.
>
> TjL
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Our own redirecting URL is being changed to a bit.ly URL

[Howard Siegel]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 06:59, TjL  wrote:
>
> Your best bet (IMO) is to determine which service you want to use and
> shorten the links yourself. I started putting together a list of them
> not too long ago and came up with these:
>
> bit.ly
> xrl.us
> tr.im
> snipr.com
> tinyarro.ws
> tinyurl.com
> icanhaz.com
> budurl.com
>
> There are, no doubt, others.

is.gd

[twitter-dev] Re: Search problems for from:username searches

[Howard Siegel]

Doug,

I've been having a problem seeing my own tweets in search for quite a few
months, and I know my tweets were not showing up in a hashtag search at a
conference I was at a few weeks ago (which made it really hard to
participate in the conference's twitter conversation!).  I did file a help
ticket a while back and was basically put off by the response from support
(essentially it said "too bad, so sad") and they closed the ticket on me.  I
have not had the time nor patience to follow up on it, though, as I know
that my tweets are getting out since people do respond to them.  Would be
nice if my tweets showed in searches, though.

- h

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 08:20, Doug Williams  wrote:

> Please file a help ticket at http://help.twitter.com. @thecurrents tweets
> almost always have links that point back to the same source. This is
> normally indicative of spam which may explain why the account is no longer
> in search. The folks in support can help you take care issues like these.
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Barry Hess  wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/f3859409fb05127c
>> --
>> Barry Hess
>> http://bjhess.com
>> http://iridesco.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:50 AM, bjhess  wrote:
>>
>>> We have had some users complain about not being able to find
>>> themselves on http://followcost.com.  I've dug into the code and it
>>> appears the failure is happening on queries to the search API of the
>>> form "from:username".
>>>
>>> A couple example queries that return zero results:
>>>
>>>  http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=from%3A1918
>>>  http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=from%3Athecurrent
>>>
>>> Yet clearly these users are active, and legitimate, Twitter users:
>>>
>>>  http://twitter.com/1918
>>>  http://twitter.com/thecurrent
>>>
>>> But sadly, is it that these users are not being indexed at all in the
>>> search DB?  I get zero results doing a simple from:username search for
>>> the same users:
>>>
>>>  http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3A1918
>>>  http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Athecurrent
>>>
>>> These are just a couple examples.  Is it common for legitimate,
>>> upstanding Twitter users to be unindexed in the search DB?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barry Hess
>>> http://followcost.com
>>> http://bjhess.com
>>
>>
>>
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

[Justyn Howard]

I think it depends on what measures the site is taking to promote
responsible use of the applications. Both applications could be used for
good, or bad. I can think of one fairly popular site that is all but
endorses spammy behavior and charges users for access to these spammy tools.
I don¹t want to point fingers, but my point is, there are probably more
abusive apps out there than these two, and it all comes down to how
responsibly the sites are guiding users, and if they have any rules in place
to get rid of those who abuse it.


On 6/9/09 6:28 PM, "Abraham Williams" <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In briefly checking out Mutuality and Twollo I'm not sure what about them is
> abusive. Mutuality says it lets you rapidly modify who you are following to
> match who is following you and Twollo auto follows accounts it thinks you
> might be interested in. Those are both useful
> tools and if used as intended are just that. I can see Twitter banning an
> individual user for using the services abusively but not the services
> themselves. 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 16:43, Brant  wrote:
>> 
>> This message will hopefully get back to the people who run Twitter API
>> development and spam prevention.
>> 
>> I noticed there are quite a few twitter applications that are
>> developed to abuse the service and violate their TOS.  They do not
>> hide what their purpose is, yet these applications remain active.  I
>> contacted twitter.com/delbius   who heads Twitter
>> Spam prevention and
>> she said that they do revoke API access to abusive applications.  But
>> I don't think they are taking an aggressive stance against them.
>> 
>> Abusive Applications:
>> http://www.huitter.com/mutuality/
>> http://www.twollo.com/
>> 
>> The combination of these two applications is for outright abuse of the
>> service.  They have been around for several months and are known
>> applications to abuse the service with.  To make matters worse,
>> Twitter suspends accounts of the people who use these applications
>> rather than targeting the root of the problem, the applications
>> themselves.  (Sound counterproductive? RIAA uses a similar policy by
>> going after end users.)
>> 
>> I propose that applications need to be more closely scrutinized and
>> can even be flagged as abusive by users. Instead of creating
>> algorithms that detect abnormal user behavior, why not detect abnormal
>> application behavior.
>> 
>> Taking a stronger stance against gray area applications could reduce
>> server load on Twitter (giving real applications faster response time)
>> and reduce manpower to deal with spam prevention.
>> 
>> I strongly encourage anyone who develops Twitter applications to send
>> this link around.
>> 
>> Thanks for reading,
>> Brant
>> twitter.com/BrantTedeschi 
> 
> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

[Justyn Howard]

What are the chances that this new TOS will negate any of the hard work
we¹ve done up until this point? Can you give us an idea of what will be
protected? It¹s a little alarming to hear that Twitter might decide to
reserve functionality that the developer network has built-on and enhanced
in favor of internalizing as business assets. As there has been no TOS in
place other than the general Twitter TOS, many of us have spent countless
hours and $$ trying to build businesses around Twitter.

Not trying to be an alarmist, just curious what this will ultimately mean
for us?

Justyn


On 6/9/09 8:51 PM, "Doug Williams"  wrote:

> The API TOS is currently in development. It is taking longer than hoped as we
> are still exploring what we want to give to developers and what we want to
> protect as business assets. For now, make sure that you understand the
> general TOS we have in place. 
> 
> We do work with developers if they are willing to answer our attempts to reach
> out before shutting them off due to TOS violations. We also try to understand
> what developers are doing and how they may be heading against the grain before
> issuing whitelisting. Most developers are willing to work with us which is
> great and works out for everyone.
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Jesse Stay  wrote:
>> Doug, where is the developer API TOS?  I think that's part of the problem -
>> none of us are being required to enter into an agreement before
>> developing, therefore we have no idea what we can and can't do with it.  I
>> also don't think most of us even know where any such TOS is, if there is
>> one.  I agree that the OAuth application process should make this a bit easie
>> r to manage, and help developers know more about what they are getting into
>> before starting their applications.
>> 
>> Personally, I want to make sure I'm following the rules of the
>> API.  I'd also prefer to know what I'm agreeing to before starting a business
>>  on top of it.  I feel for the developers of the 2 mentioned apps because,
>> *if* they are violating any TOS, they probably had no idea they were doing so
>> before spending so much time developing it. (even if I disagree with the
>> premise of those apps)
>> 
>> @Jesse
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Doug Williams  wrote:
>>> Brant,
>>> Thank you for your concern. This is something that bothers us as well.
>>> 
>>> Moving applications exclusively to OAuth-based authentication will certainly
>>> help in restricting applications that abuse the service. If you find a
>>> service that you think is violating our TOS, please email a...@twitter.com 
>>> or
>>> send a message to @twitterapi and we can take a look. As you mentioned, Del
>>> is great but she is but one person. We do have an abuse team forming to help
>>> quickly identify which services are violating our TOS. All in all we have a
>>> lot of work to do so please do help where you can.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Brant  wrote:
 
 This message will hopefully get back to the people who run Twitter API
 development and spam prevention.
 
 I noticed there are quite a few twitter applications that are
 developed to abuse the service and violate their TOS.  They do not
 hide what their purpose is, yet these applications remain active.  I
 contacted twitter.com/delbius   who heads
 Twitter Spam prevention and
 she said that they do revoke API access to abusive applications.  But
 I don't think they are taking an aggressive stance against them.
 
 Abusive Applications:
 http://www.huitter.com/mutuality/
 http://www.twollo.com/
 
 The combination of these two applications is for outright abuse of the
 service.  They have been around for several months and are known
 applications to abuse the service with.  To make matters worse,
 Twitter suspends accounts of the people who use these applications
 rather than targeting the root of the problem, the applications
 themselves.  (Sound counterproductive? RIAA uses a similar policy by
 going after end users.)
 
 I propose that applications need to be more closely scrutinized and
 can even be flagged as abusive by users. Instead of creating
 algorithms that detect abnormal user behavior, why not detect abnormal
 application behavior.
 
 Taking a stronger stance against gray area applications could reduce
 server load on Twitter (giving real applications faster response time)
 and reduce manpower to deal with spam prevention.
 
 I strongly encourage anyone who develops Twitter applications to send
 this link around.
 
 Thanks for reading,
 Brant
 twitter.com/BrantTedeschi 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

[Justyn Howard]

Thank you for the response Doug. I intended the post to be more curious than
implicative ­ though it may have sounded more of the latter. In any case,
we¹ve all grown to love the openness of the platform, and the platform
itself as such a great opportunity to build. I just got nervous when I
started thinking about the work we¹ve put in.

Thanks for being communicative about this!


On 6/9/09 9:10 PM, "Doug Williams"  wrote:

> Obviously I can't address the impact since we don't have a document
> to deliver. Let me be clear, we are not thinking of taking functionality from
> the offering, but we are discussing how open we want to be moving forward.
> Most of the talks are around what we want to offer through the Streaming API
> and to whom should those privileges be extended. We are not concentrating our
> efforts on whom can we restrict and why? Remember we built this company on
> being open and to that we are committed, especially within the API team. We
> are very conscious that you developers are a little weary of our plans but
> rest assured we want to augment the ecosystem and its abilities rather than
> contract our offering.
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Justyn Howard  wrote:
>> What are the chances that this new TOS will negate any of the hard work we¹ve
>> done up until this point? Can you give us an idea of what will be protected?
>> It¹s a little alarming to hear that Twitter might decide to reserve
>> functionality that the developer network has built-on and enhanced in favor
>> of internalizing as business assets. As there has been no TOS in place other
>> than the general Twitter TOS, many of us have spent countless hours and $$
>> trying to build businesses around Twitter.
>> 
>> Not trying to be an alarmist, just curious what this will ultimately mean for
>> us?
>> 
>> Justyn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/9/09 8:51 PM, "Doug Williams" > <http://d...@twitter.com> > wrote:
>> 
>>> The API TOS is currently in development. It is taking longer than hoped as
>>> we are still exploring what we want to give to developers and what we want
>>> to protect as business assets. For now, make sure that you understand the
>>> general TOS we have in place. 
>>> 
>>> We do work with developers if they are willing to answer our attempts to
>>> reach out before shutting them off due to TOS violations. We also try to
>>> understand what developers are doing and how they may be heading against the
>>> grain before issuing whitelisting. Most developers are willing to work with
>>> us which is great and works out for everyone.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Jesse Stay >> <http://jesses...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>> Doug, where is the developer API TOS?  I think that's part of the problem -
>>>> none of us are being required to enter into an agreement before
>>>> developing, therefore we have no idea what we can and can't do with it.  I
>>>> also don't think most of us even know where any such TOS is, if there is
>>>> one.  I agree that the OAuth application process should make this a bit eas
>>>> ier to manage, and help developers know more about what they are getting
>>>> into before starting their applications.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I want to make sure I'm following the rules of the
>>>> API.  I'd also prefer to know what I'm agreeing to before starting a busine
>>>> ss on top of it.  I feel for the developers of the 2 mentioned apps
>>>> because, *if* they are violating any TOS, they probably had no idea they
>>>> were doing so before spending so much time developing it. (even if I
>>>> disagree with the premise of those apps)
>>>> 
>>>> @Jesse
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Doug Williams >>> <http://d...@twitter.com> > wrote:
>>>>> Brant,
>>>>> Thank you for your concern. This is something that bothers us as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Moving applications exclusively to OAuth-based authentication will
>>>>> certainly help in restricting applications that abuse the service. If you
>>>>> find a service that you think is violating our TOS, please email
>>>>> a...@twitter.com <http://a...@twitter.com>  or send a message to 
>>>>> @twitterapi
>>>>> and we can take 

[twitter-dev] Re: Greetings all, New Dev (.net) Here

[Justyn Howard]

Start with the API/Wiki stuff. There's an API Status value that gives  
you the calls/100.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:31 PM, KrushRadio - Doc   
wrote:

>
> Hey all, thougth i'd pop my head in and say hey.
>
> My name is Dan Regalia, and I'm a .net Dev.  I'm working on a twitter
> engine, and a client (names have not been announced yet).  I'm really
> excited about the entire Twitter concept.
>
> I have been watching the streams, and I've seen alot of talk about
> Messaging limits, DM Limits, Follow Limits, etc.  While my engine
> strictly follows and tracks existing streams, and the client is really
> a souped up version of twirhl in .net form.. Where can i actually find
> the actual limits at.
>
> Are there read limits?
>
> I saw on some of the applications, that people are getting counts from
> somewhere, like they have 5/100 left, etc.  Are there dynamics to
> this, is it tracked in the account stream xml, or something like that?
>
> I have about 2 weeks of reading up to do here on the group dev site,
> and then dig thru the api/wiki stuff...
>
> ~Dan 'Doc' Regalia
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course
because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh wait,
you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc.

Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships with
other developers, so we created a place to do it. Google Groups is linear.
We're not reinventing the framework there, we're sharing ideas and getting
to know each other. We have the group feed specifically so people will
continue to interact here for technical discussion.

Totally OK with you passing, but I'm not sure why you would waste your time
putting down others who are trying to connect with the community.

Justyn


On 6/11/09 2:21 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:

> 
> Of course you don't consider it fragmentation, even if that's exactly
> what you've just described.
> 
> Can I go to a single, official, original place to get the entire
> conversation? Nope, you've just created a new place people need to go,
> a place where new knowledge will inevitably accrete and not propagate.
> Congratulations on adding to the noise in everyone's life.
> 
> The only way this doesn't fragment the community and the knowledge and
> the flow of communication is if an alternative to the official list
> TOOK OVER official dev communications for Twitter. Otherwise,
> augmentation like this leads to fragmentation. Again, congratulations.
> 
> Thanks-
> - Andy Badera
> - and...@badera.us
> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Justyn wrote:
>> 
>> I don't consider it fragmentation. We pump this thread into the site
>> w/ links back to discussions and give people another layer of ways to
>> connect and communicate with other dev's. I don't see a downside =)
>> http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 5:47 pm, Andrew Badera  wrote:
>>> fragmentation ...
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Justyn wrote:
>>> 
 We have created a private community on the Ning network for developers
 and founders of Twitter-related projects. You can connect and
 communicate with other developers, share ideas, discuss your projects,
 find contract work and veiw/post events.
>>> 
 You can view and join the community here:http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>>> 
 All are welcome and we look forward to seeing you there!
>> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

Yeah, we should probably shut down everything new and go back to IRC. C'mon
man, I wanted to network with other interesting devs, period. If there was a
place to easily do that more socially than Groups, I would have happily
joined and called it a day.


On 6/11/09 2:37 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:

> 
> Poor strawmen. And yes, I do use only one email account, thanks.
> 
> Social networking sites are the epitome of fragmentation, and they
> don't revolve around my use of official documentation and
> communication, for many, many reasons -- first and foremost, they're
> not well suited, they're not easily searched or indexed.
> 
> You've created fragmentation Suck it up and accept that. I'm not
> putting you or anyone or anything down, quit being so overly sensitive
> -- but face the facts. Whether you did it with good intentions, or you
> did it with the idea of making yourself more visible, you've created
> fragmentation. Period. Thanks again.
> 
> Thanks-
> - Andy Badera
> - and...@badera.us
> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Justyn Howard wrote:
>> 
>> So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course
>> because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh wait,
>> you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc.
>> 
>> Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships with
>> other developers, so we created a place to do it. Google Groups is linear.
>> We're not reinventing the framework there, we're sharing ideas and getting
>> to know each other. We have the group feed specifically so people will
>> continue to interact here for technical discussion.
>> 
>> Totally OK with you passing, but I'm not sure why you would waste your time
>> putting down others who are trying to connect with the community.
>> 
>> Justyn
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/11/09 2:21 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Of course you don't consider it fragmentation, even if that's exactly
>>> what you've just described.
>>> 
>>> Can I go to a single, official, original place to get the entire
>>> conversation? Nope, you've just created a new place people need to go,
>>> a place where new knowledge will inevitably accrete and not propagate.
>>> Congratulations on adding to the noise in everyone's life.
>>> 
>>> The only way this doesn't fragment the community and the knowledge and
>>> the flow of communication is if an alternative to the official list
>>> TOOK OVER official dev communications for Twitter. Otherwise,
>>> augmentation like this leads to fragmentation. Again, congratulations.
>>> 
>>> Thanks-
>>> - Andy Badera
>>> - and...@badera.us
>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Justyn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't consider it fragmentation. We pump this thread into the site
>>>> w/ links back to discussions and give people another layer of ways to
>>>> connect and communicate with other dev's. I don't see a downside =)
>>>> http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 7, 5:47 pm, Andrew Badera  wrote:
>>>>> fragmentation ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Justyn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have created a private community on the Ning network for developers
>>>>>> and founders of Twitter-related projects. You can connect and
>>>>>> communicate with other developers, share ideas, discuss your projects,
>>>>>> find contract work and veiw/post events.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can view and join the community here:http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>>> All are welcome and we look forward to seeing you there!
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

Your one-upmanship amuses me. Doesn't your profession involve developing for
social networks? In regards to fragmentation, I wanted a place to connect
with entrepreneurs who are doing interesting things with Twitter. To talk
best-practices (business), network with founders of complimentary tools,
connect contractors with jobs etc. That's not really the premise of this
group.

In any case, please accept my apologies for muddying your stream. I didn't
realize your authority on the matter. Let's move on.


On 6/11/09 2:54 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:

> 
> So now you're reduced to what comes across as whining, but you've
> stopped denying fragmentation. Well hey, that's a step in the right
> direction I guess.
> 
> Because of course what the world needs is ANOTHER social network, or
> another aspect of an existing social network, to serve the developers
> of client apps to a social network. Hey, why not have a whole social
> network talking about social networks discussing development of social
> networks while you're at it? Nothing like niche.
> 
> Thanks-
> - Andy Badera
> - and...@badera.us
> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Justyn Howard wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, we should probably shut down everything new and go back to IRC. C'mon
>> man, I wanted to network with other interesting devs, period. If there was a
>> place to easily do that more socially than Groups, I would have happily
>> joined and called it a day.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/11/09 2:37 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Poor strawmen. And yes, I do use only one email account, thanks.
>>> 
>>> Social networking sites are the epitome of fragmentation, and they
>>> don't revolve around my use of official documentation and
>>> communication, for many, many reasons -- first and foremost, they're
>>> not well suited, they're not easily searched or indexed.
>>> 
>>> You've created fragmentation Suck it up and accept that. I'm not
>>> putting you or anyone or anything down, quit being so overly sensitive
>>> -- but face the facts. Whether you did it with good intentions, or you
>>> did it with the idea of making yourself more visible, you've created
>>> fragmentation. Period. Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks-
>>> - Andy Badera
>>> - and...@badera.us
>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Justyn Howard
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course
>>>> because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh
>>>> wait,
>>>> you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships
>>>> with
>>>> other developers, so we created a place to do it. Google Groups is linear.
>>>> We're not reinventing the framework there, we're sharing ideas and getting
>>>> to know each other. We have the group feed specifically so people will
>>>> continue to interact here for technical discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> Totally OK with you passing, but I'm not sure why you would waste your time
>>>> putting down others who are trying to connect with the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Justyn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/11/09 2:21 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course you don't consider it fragmentation, even if that's exactly
>>>>> what you've just described.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I go to a single, official, original place to get the entire
>>>>> conversation? Nope, you've just created a new place people need to go,
>>>>> a place where new knowledge will inevitably accrete and not propagate.
>>>>> Congratulations on adding to the noise in everyone's life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only way this doesn't fragment the community and the knowledge and
>>>>> the flow of communication is if an alternative to the official list
>>>>> TOOK OVER official dev communications for Twitter. Otherwise,
&g

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

Feel free to email me directly if you want to continue this discussion - I
don't think the group cares.


On 6/11/09 2:54 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:

> 
> So now you're reduced to what comes across as whining, but you've
> stopped denying fragmentation. Well hey, that's a step in the right
> direction I guess.
> 
> Because of course what the world needs is ANOTHER social network, or
> another aspect of an existing social network, to serve the developers
> of client apps to a social network. Hey, why not have a whole social
> network talking about social networks discussing development of social
> networks while you're at it? Nothing like niche.
> 
> Thanks-
> - Andy Badera
> - and...@badera.us
> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Justyn Howard wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, we should probably shut down everything new and go back to IRC. C'mon
>> man, I wanted to network with other interesting devs, period. If there was a
>> place to easily do that more socially than Groups, I would have happily
>> joined and called it a day.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/11/09 2:37 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Poor strawmen. And yes, I do use only one email account, thanks.
>>> 
>>> Social networking sites are the epitome of fragmentation, and they
>>> don't revolve around my use of official documentation and
>>> communication, for many, many reasons -- first and foremost, they're
>>> not well suited, they're not easily searched or indexed.
>>> 
>>> You've created fragmentation Suck it up and accept that. I'm not
>>> putting you or anyone or anything down, quit being so overly sensitive
>>> -- but face the facts. Whether you did it with good intentions, or you
>>> did it with the idea of making yourself more visible, you've created
>>> fragmentation. Period. Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks-
>>> - Andy Badera
>>> - and...@badera.us
>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Justyn Howard
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course
>>>> because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh
>>>> wait,
>>>> you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships
>>>> with
>>>> other developers, so we created a place to do it. Google Groups is linear.
>>>> We're not reinventing the framework there, we're sharing ideas and getting
>>>> to know each other. We have the group feed specifically so people will
>>>> continue to interact here for technical discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> Totally OK with you passing, but I'm not sure why you would waste your time
>>>> putting down others who are trying to connect with the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Justyn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/11/09 2:21 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course you don't consider it fragmentation, even if that's exactly
>>>>> what you've just described.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I go to a single, official, original place to get the entire
>>>>> conversation? Nope, you've just created a new place people need to go,
>>>>> a place where new knowledge will inevitably accrete and not propagate.
>>>>> Congratulations on adding to the noise in everyone's life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only way this doesn't fragment the community and the knowledge and
>>>>> the flow of communication is if an alternative to the official list
>>>>> TOOK OVER official dev communications for Twitter. Otherwise,
>>>>> augmentation like this leads to fragmentation. Again, congratulations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks-
>>>>> - Andy Badera
>>>>> - and...@badera.us
>>>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Justyn wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't consider it fragmentation. We pump this thread into the site
>>>>>> w/ links back to discussions and give people another layer of ways to
>>>>>> connect and communicate with other dev's. I don't see a downside =)
>>>>>> http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 7, 5:47 pm, Andrew Badera  wrote:
>>>>>>> fragmentation ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Justyn wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We have created a private community on the Ning network for developers
>>>>>>>> and founders of Twitter-related projects. You can connect and
>>>>>>>> communicate with other developers, share ideas, discuss your projects,
>>>>>>>> find contract work and veiw/post events.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can view and join the community here:http://twtfnd.ning.com/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All are welcome and we look forward to seeing you there!
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

Are you drunk? Your .sig says "ask permission" to email, so I posted here.
There is no personal gain involved and I have given way more than I have
received. If you want to judge my character, as I mentioned, email me
direct. You have my permission.


On 6/11/09 3:13 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:

> 
> And yet you keep posting on-list ... amusing, yep.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Justyn Howard wrote:
>> 
>> Feel free to email me directly if you want to continue this discussion - I
>> don't think the group cares.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/11/09 2:54 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> So now you're reduced to what comes across as whining, but you've
>>> stopped denying fragmentation. Well hey, that's a step in the right
>>> direction I guess.
>>> 
>>> Because of course what the world needs is ANOTHER social network, or
>>> another aspect of an existing social network, to serve the developers
>>> of client apps to a social network. Hey, why not have a whole social
>>> network talking about social networks discussing development of social
>>> networks while you're at it? Nothing like niche.
>>> 
>>> Thanks-
>>> - Andy Badera
>>> - and...@badera.us
>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Justyn Howard
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, we should probably shut down everything new and go back to IRC. C'mon
>>>> man, I wanted to network with other interesting devs, period. If there was
>>>> a
>>>> place to easily do that more socially than Groups, I would have happily
>>>> joined and called it a day.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/11/09 2:37 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Poor strawmen. And yes, I do use only one email account, thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Social networking sites are the epitome of fragmentation, and they
>>>>> don't revolve around my use of official documentation and
>>>>> communication, for many, many reasons -- first and foremost, they're
>>>>> not well suited, they're not easily searched or indexed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You've created fragmentation Suck it up and accept that. I'm not
>>>>> putting you or anyone or anything down, quit being so overly sensitive
>>>>> -- but face the facts. Whether you did it with good intentions, or you
>>>>> did it with the idea of making yourself more visible, you've created
>>>>> fragmentation. Period. Thanks again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks-
>>>>> - Andy Badera
>>>>> - and...@badera.us
>>>>> - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
>>>>> - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Justyn Howard
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course
>>>>>> because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh
>>>>>> wait,
>>>>>> you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> other developers, so we created a place to do it. Google Groups is
>>>>>> linear.
>>>>>> We're not reinventing the framework there, we're sharing ideas and
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> to know each other. We have the group feed specifically so people will
>>>>>> continue to interact here for technical discussion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Totally OK with you passing, but I'm not sure why you would waste your
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> putting down others who are trying to connect with the community.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Justyn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/11/09 2:21 AM, "Andrew Badera"  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>&g

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

[Justyn Howard]

The Moral of this story is that I posted something I thought would be  
helpful, something that people might find value in. There was no self- 
interest involved. I took the time to create something for other  
people to use.


But some people would rather criticize, show thier web-flaming skills  
and wit to make other narrow-minded people chuckle or show thier  
superiority.


I've learned my lesson. Don't try to be helpful, especially not here.  
Thanks for turning something I was delighted to share into a clear  
message that some people will always justify their own self-importance  
by tearing down others.


Most of you are awesome. A few of you need a hug.

Andrew took offense to the idea that I was creating fragmentation,  
another place to go for information, that was somehow self purposed.  
Fragmentation? From a guy who's blog has links to 16 different  
websites to connect with him.


Not once did I remark on your character, yet you continued to insult  
me and pass judgement on mine.


Live and let live, sir. Do your thing and I'll do mine.

This will be my last post on the topic, but I wanted to share my  
dissapointment that people are being discouraged from sharing. I'm a  
genuine person and I was genuinely trying to be helpful.


Justyn

P.S. - Andrew - you...complete...me

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Dossy Shiobara  wrote:



On 6/11/09 4:06 PM, Bradley S. O'Hearne wrote:

Hint: why make an enemy out of a complete stranger, when you could
instead speak (regardless of agreement / disagreement) with  
courtesy and

make a friend, or a business associate. Just as easy to make a friend
than an enemy.


Actually, it's a lot easier to make enemies than friends.  Plus,  
enemies are known quantities - you know what the deal is.   
"Friends," especially the fair-weather types (you know, the kind who  
are your friend when things go their way, but don't know you the  
minute you need them) aren't worth having in the first place.


People who need something from others should be a little more  
gracious and accomodating of the people they're seeking favor from,  
not whine when they don't get their way or are mistreated.  That's  
not the short path to getting what they want, anyway.


Begging and bribery are both well-tested and proven methods for  
soliciting help from others.  I highly recommend exhausting those  
two options, first.  :-)


--
Dossy Shiobara  | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/
Panoptic Computer Network   | http://panoptic.com/
 "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
   folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)

[twitter-dev] Re: Spinn3r Twitter Social Media Rank

[Justyn Howard]

Well done. Considering an API so we could integrate rank data with other
apps?


On 6/15/09 3:43 PM, "burton"  wrote:

> 
> Hey guys.
> 
> We just pushed this today:
> 
> http://spinn3r.com/rank/twitter.php
> 
> as part of our Spinn3r 3.1 release:
> 
> http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009/06/spinn3r-31---now-with-twitter-support-and-soci
> al-media-ranking.html
> 
> Would love feedback.
> 
> If this is valuable for the community we would be willing to compute
> deeper rankings (on a deeper crawl) and recompute this more regularly
> (once every two weeks or so).
> 
> Kevin

[twitter-dev] Re: Sudden error while using API

[Howard Siegel]

Have you updated to the latest version of the framework which has been fixed
for the twitpocalypse (integer overflow of the status id values)?

- h

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 05:30, econn navjot  wrote:

>
> hello dear,
>
> i am making an C# application to update my twitter account using
> Twitterizer.Framework dll. it was working perfectly for last week, but
> suddenly from last two days its not working and giving below error.
> can anyone guide me the reason for the error and way to solve it.
>
>  Error Parsing Twitter
> Response.Twitterizer.Framework
>
> thanks in advance.
>
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API to require HTTP Referrer and/or User Agent

[Justyn Howard]

Thanks Doug - Any additional info to help us know if we comply? My dev is
out of the country on vacation and want to make sure we don¹t miss anything.


On 6/16/09 11:33 AM, "Doug Williams"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> The Search API will begin to require a valid HTTP Referrer, or at the very
> least, a meaningful and unique user agent with each request. Any request not
> including this information will be returned a 403 Forbidden response code by
> our web server.
> 
> This change will be effective within the next few days, so please check your
> applications using the Search API and make any necessary code changes.
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 

[twitter-dev] Re: Spinn3r Twitter Social Media Rank

[Justyn Howard]

I'd love to be able to pass you a UN and get back your algo results.


On 6/15/09 5:42 PM, "burton"  wrote:

> 
> That's what we're thinking of experimenting with... perhaps an API
> where you can give us a handle and we can tell you if it is spam or
> ham.
> 
> Also ranking on certain topics (tech, politics, etc) would be pretty
> hot.
> 
> If you have any ideas we're all ears
> 
> On Jun 15, 2:45 pm, Justyn Howard  wrote:
>> Well done. Considering an API so we could integrate rank data with other
>> apps?
>> 
>> On 6/15/09 3:43 PM, "burton"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey guys.
>> 
>>> We just pushed this today:
>> 
>>> http://spinn3r.com/rank/twitter.php
>> 
>>> as part of our Spinn3r 3.1 release:
>> 
>>> http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009/06/spinn3r-31---now-with-twitter-support...
>>> al-media-ranking.html
>> 
>>> Would love feedback.
>> 
>>> If this is valuable for the community we would be willing to compute
>>> deeper rankings (on a deeper crawl) and recompute this more regularly
>>> (once every two weeks or so).
>> 
>>> Kevin

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API to require HTTP Referrer and/or User Agent

[Justyn Howard]

Thanks, pretty sure we do both. Will this new (or newly enforced) policy
help clean up some garbage?


On 6/16/09 11:56 AM, "Doug Williams"  wrote:

> All we ask is that you include a valid HTTP Referrer and/or a User Agent with
> each request which is easy to do in almost every language. Both would be
> helpful but we only require one at this time. We simply want to be able to
> identify apps and have the ability to communicate with the authors.
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Justyn Howard 
> wrote:
>> Thanks Doug - Any additional info to help us know if we comply? My dev is out
>> of the country on vacation and want to make sure we don¹t miss anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/16/09 11:33 AM, "Doug Williams" > <http://d...@twitter.com> > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> The Search API will begin to require a valid HTTP Referrer, or at the very
>>> least, a meaningful and unique user agent with each request. Any request not
>>> including this information will be returned a 403 Forbidden response code by
>>> our web server.
>>> 
>>> This change will be effective within the next few days, so please check your
>>> applications using the Search API and make any necessary code changes.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>> 
> 
> 

[twitter-dev] Re: My updates not apearing in the search of trend topics

[Howard Siegel]

Missing updates in Twitter Search is an ongoing issue that they have not
been
able to completely fix.  You can open a help ticket on the Twitter web site.

- h

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 03:11, Profulla K Sadangi wrote:

> Hi,
> I am currently using Twitter4J API to post some status message to Twitter.
> Initially I could able to see my message in the search topic pannel.  But
> since 2 day I am experiencing some isue. Even though I am posting message I
> am not able to see in the Search list (for ex I click "iPhone" trend).
>
> Can I check somewhere whether my account blocked or anything?
>
>
> I could able to see all message, and able to update the status normally.
>
> Thanks!
> Praful
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Duplicate followers

[Howard Siegel]

Interesting.  Have no idea.  But then twitter has a lot of inconsistencies
like that.

BTW, 19293341 is also duplicated.

- h

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:20, jamiet  wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Newbie around here so apologies if this is re-hashing old ground.
>
> Does anyone know why I might get duplicates when requesting a user's
> followers? e.g. Head to http://twitter.com/followers/ids.xml?user_id=14
> and do a search for 8368622 - you'll notice that it appears twice!!
>
> Anyone know why?
>
> cheers
> Jamie
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers Count doesn't add up with the actual followers

[Howard Siegel]

Others have also noticed that some accounts show up multiple times in the
list of followers when retrieved via the API.  Not sure why that happens,
but it does.

- h

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:37, Tim  wrote:

>
> > Where
> > are the other 200 go ?
> To answer your questions, chances are that these 200 accounts have
> been disabled (probably for being spam accounts), but I noticed there
> are still counted in the number of followers.
>
> Tim
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Live Event Beaming

[Howard Siegel]

Presumably you are going to use a hashtag for the tweets you want to
display.  If so, any twitter client that lets you track tweets with your
hashtag in real time would work for you.

- h

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 20:25, Juslin Guo  wrote:

>
> Dear All,
>
> I not sure if this is the place to ask this question. May i check does
> anyone know of a full-screen application/flash app/web-apps that allow
> me to beam on a projector/led screen live updates from twitter. I have
> an event where we would like to let the stadium audience twitter in.
>
> Regards
> Juslin
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Should consumer token be kept secret?

[Howard Siegel]

There was just a long thread discussing these sorts of security issues.

The thread title is "Security Best Practices" and is at <
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/45550d6cebf86051#
>

- h

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:05, Grant Emsley  wrote:

>
> I'm almost ready to release a desktop app using OAuth.  It's written
> in Perl, so anyone can read the source.
>
> Should I remove my consumer token and secret and make people get their
> own?  Or is it safe to distribute?

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers with time they followed

[Howard Siegel]

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 23:45, Stuart  wrote:

>
> 2009/7/19 niff :
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm trying to pull a list of followers, including the time they
> > started following.
> > I'm not sure what method should be used for this. Here's what I
> > thought about so far and didn't work.
> > - ids.xml (obviously not)
> > - followers.xml the more detailed one (still no info on the time)
> > - friendship exists (still no info on the time)
> >
> > Anyone can help with ideas for this. Is there a method or combination
> > of methods, or any idea, to get the time this follower started
> > following?
>
> There is no API call that reports the time a follower relationship was
> created. Last I heard Twitter don't actually record it at all, if they
> did I'd expect it to be shown on the main website which it's not.
>
> -Stuart
>  
>

Your followers on the twitter web site are (or at least were last time I
checked)
listed in descending order from the newest to the oldest follower.  Do they
just
keep the list in order or do they keep the time of follow internally and
then sort the
list in reverse chronological order when needed for display?

- h

[twitter-dev] Re: bug on "more" button

[Howard Siegel]

You only need to click on the "more" button once, like a hyperlink and
unlike an application icon.

Clicking on it twice, in rapid succession as you did, just tells the web
backend that you want to load the information and then load it again.

- h

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 22:00, Douglas Melo  wrote:

>
> Hello developers. I didn't find another way to talk to you that a find
> a bug on twitter.
> When you "double-click" on the button "more" to see more "messages",
> it shows the next messages and as it ends to load them, it loads them
> again. It seems to call two times the method to load asynchronously
> the message.
> I think I'm helping telling 'bout this. Maybe, twitter could have a
> bug area...don't know..=P
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Adding tweets with a certain word them them to a feed on your site?

[Howard Siegel]

Yes, there are search widgets you can put in to the HTML for your website.
There are also plugins for the various blogging engines which will add a
twitter search box to a blog.

- h

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 02:48, DougMellon  wrote:

>
> Does anyone know of a way I could add tweets with a certain word in
> them to a feed on my site?  For example if there are tweets that have
> say "#somethinghere" in them.  If I search twitter for #somethinghere
> (#somethinghere) the list of tweets comes up.  Is it possible to get
> that list of tweets posted on my site?  This may be really confusing
> and if so let me know and ill try to word it another way.  Thanks in
> advance,
> Doug
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Preventing Twitter from interpreting "@" characters

[Howard Siegel]

Which will destroy the URL. ;-O

- h

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50, JDG  wrote:

> put a space after the @ sign?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 22:11, Bradley S. O'Hearne  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am trying to post a URL to a Twitter status that has a "@" character
>> in it. The problem is probably obvious -- anyone know how to prevent
>> Twitter from interpreting the "@" as a username?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brad
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Internets. Serious business.
>

[twitter-dev] Re: What Twitter account is used for important announcements?

[Howard Siegel]

Don't know if there is an @twitterstatus account, but there is the Twitter
Status Blog at http://status.twitter.com/.

- h

[twitter-dev] Re: oauth redirects fail....

[Howard Siegel]

If this has only been happening since this morning, then it is likely this
is just part of the aftermath of the DOS attack on Twitter.

- h

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 15:53, yuf  wrote:

>
> I have yet to get oAuth callbacks to work properly.  After clicking
> Allow, I end up on a completely blank twittter.com/oauth/authorize
> page.  If I try to look at the source, it asked if should resend.  If
> I do, the source comes back that contains the redirect.  But if I'm
> not looking at the source, the page just hangs for a while, and then
> ends up blank.
>
> What is up here?  I've tried a variety of callback urls, from
> localhost, to the actual domain I'm using for development.
>
> Any one experience similar?
>

[twitter-dev] Re: 302s are NOT the solution

[Howard Siegel]

I support them wholeheartedly and appreciate everything they've done to
thwart the DDOS attack.

While it is true that many of the tools used in the attack do not appear to
follow the 302s right now, you can be your bottom dollar that they will very
quickly be updated to do just that, perhaps even quicker than Twitter can
finish recovering from the attack and put in to place measures to better
survive future attacks.

At best it is a stopgap to get over the current attack.

- h

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 16:11, Fawkes  wrote:

>
> They can, but apparently they don't, otherwise Twitter wouldn't have
> used it as a tactic.  They're going through a very difficult time, we
> need to be patient and supportive of them!
>
> Dave
> http://twitter.com/DavidHaber
>
> On Aug 8, 8:53 am, Kyle Mulka  wrote:
> > An attacker can just as easily follow a 302 as can a legitimate API
> > developer or user of Twitter. I don't understand why Twitter thinks
> > this is a solution to the problem. Please stop 302ing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Kyle Mulkahttp://twilk.com
>

[twitter-dev] Re: 302s are NOT the solution

[Howard Siegel]

TCP/IP is the protocol underneath HTTP, is not a web service protocol and
requires a whole different method to manage and use connections.  Think of
it as the raw data pipe by which the HTTP protocol is used to communicate
between a client program (i.e. a web broswer) and the server program (i.e. a
web server).  It can not be used in the way that I seem to think you are
intending it to be used.

- h

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 17:30, Kyle Mulka  wrote:

>
> From Wikipedia:
> "Some upper layer protocols provide their own defense against IP
> spoofing. For example, Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) uses
> sequence numbers negotiated with the remote machine to ensure that
> arriving packets are part of an established connection. Since the
> attacker normally can't see any reply packets, he has to guess the
> sequence number in order to hijack the connection. The poor
> implementation in many older operating systems and network devices,
> however, means that TCP sequence numbers can be predicted."
>
> This seems to say that TCP could be used instead of HTTP 302s. Is
> there something I'm missing for why 302s are necessary here?
>
> --
> Kyle Mulka
> http://twilk.com
>
> On Aug 8, 10:45 pm, John Kalucki  wrote:
> > In a simplified sense, the redirect nullifies a pernicious class of
> > attack where the source IP address is forged. A redirect cannot be
> > followed with a false source address. The attacks that remain are
> > those where the source IP address is valid. You can then imagine other
> > techniques that than can be applied against valid IP addresses. And so
> > the problem is divided and ameliorated, but never fully solved.
> >
> > I'm going to push back for a second with some food for thought for
> > developers: The API is via HTTP. HTTP is a well defined protocol. 302
> > redirects are a valid and well worn part of the HTTP protocol.
> > Consider why applications are not built using fully HTTP compliant
> > libraries. This doesn't address all the problems that we're all
> > having, but it does address some.
> >
> > -John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
> > Services, Twitter Inc.
> >
> > On Aug 8, 8:53 am, Kyle Mulka  wrote:
> >
> > > An attacker can just as easily follow a 302 as can a legitimate API
> > > developer or user of Twitter. I don't understand why Twitter thinks
> > > this is a solution to the problem. Please stop 302ing.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > --
> > > Kyle Mulkahttp://twilk.com
>

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

[Howard Siegel]

Not taking sides, here, but so far you are the only one that has reported
receiving the C&D letter.
How do you get from 1 instance of legal action to "Twitter's lawyers are
shutting down the third
party developer community"?

- h

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 20:56, Dean Collins  wrote:

>
> Does Twitter inc know that their lawyers are shutting down the third party
> developer community?
>
>
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

[Howard Siegel]

There have been times when a friend or follower id has been reported
multiple times.  Did you check to see if any of the friend or follower ids
that you get back were duplicates?

- h

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 20:17, Dewald Pretorius  wrote:

>
> For @dewaldp I get, via the API social graph methods with paging:
> Friends: 764 , Followers: 3,977.
>
> While on my web profile the numbers are: Friends: 747 , Followers:
> 3,911.
>
> On Sep 4, 11:56 pm, Dewald Pretorius  wrote:
> > Not only do the social graph calls now suddenly, without any prior
> > warning of announcement, return only 5,000 ids, it is messed up even
> > when you do the paging as per the API documentation.
> >
> > Case in point. @socialoomph has 16,598 followers. If you page through
> > the follower ids with &page, you get only 12,017 entries.
> >
> > This is highly frustrating, and it has now completely screwed up my
> > follower processing. It does not help that Twitter has rolled out
> > something into production without any kind of testing, right before a
> > weekend.
> >
> > Dewald
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter for a Library

[Howard Siegel]

You should get a "verified account" since they'll presumably want to be a
trusted provider of information.

- h

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 20:01, spyrrow  wrote:

>
> I need to set up a Twitter account for one of my clients, which is a
> public library. Anything I need to set up differently then what is
> provided on your "set up account" page?
>
> What would you suggest?
>
> Spyrrow
>

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Background

[Howard Siegel]

I don't know what the max dimensions are, but the picture will repeat
horizontally and vertically (though that might be configurable, but I set my
background image info a long time ago and don't remember all the details
right now).

- h

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 17:47, shapper  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I need to create a custom Twitter background.
> What are the dimensions for it and the allowed maximum size or the
> size you advice?
>
> Does the background repeats horizontal and vertically?
>
> What are the options?
>
> Thanks,
> Miguel

[twitter-dev] Re: Duplicate Tweets

[Justyn Howard]

Thanks for the response Chad. Hoping we can find measures to curb abuse
while still allowing responsible use of recurrence as a useful tool for
publishers, businesses and their followers who benefit from the
consistency/timeliness of the communications.


On 10/13/09 8:28 PM, "Chad Etzel"  wrote:

> 
> Believe it or not, I've been reading every post on this thread with
> great intent. I have been proxying major points to "powers that be"
> and started an internal discussion on the topic at hand. The resulting
> decisions and policies that may be made/enforced from these
> discussions is, how do you say, "above my pay grade."
> 
> We do listen to these threads as long as the discussion remains
> constructive, which this one has.
> 
> -Chad
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Dewald Pretorius  wrote:
>> 
>> The only Twitter participation we've had thus far on this unfortunate
>> matter was Chad aging 10 years in 10 seconds over the idea that
>> someone can write a desktop or browser script that scrapes the login
>> page and then do whatever the hell it pleases (you know, like posting
>> something awful like recurring tweets).
>> 
>> The sad thing is this. Selected people at Twitter are very familiar
>> with my level of cooperation with them. Believe it or not, there are
>> people in Twitter who actually view me as "one of the good guys".
>> 
>> With my users having a recurring tweet feature available to them, and
>> with the cooperation of Twitter and suitable information from Twitter,
>> I could have contained the matter programmatically.
>> 
>> But, with what essentially amounts as a flat-out rejection of my offer
>> to cooperate and change my system to prevent duplicate tweets, they
>> have now sent all those users off somewhere else, into the loving arms
>> of people who couldn't give a shit about working with Twitter, and
>> have in essence unleashed recurring tweet hell on themselves.
>> 
>> The demand for recurring tweets has not suddenly magically
>> disappeared. Let me repeat that. Hopefully someone in Twitter will
>> take notice. The demand for recurring tweets has not suddenly
>> magically disappeared.
>> 
>> Dewald
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 9:22 pm, JDG  wrote:
>>> I dunno. It'd be nice. I personally like rearranging deck chairs like this.
>>> It was civil and, hopefully, productive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:39, Dewald Pretorius  wrote:
>>> 
 I often wonder whether our non-API musings here on these forums have
 any effect on anything, or are we just amusing ourselves by
 rearranging deck chairs?
>>> 
 Dewald
>>> 
 On Oct 13, 8:03 pm, Justyn  wrote:
> If duplicate tweets are the concern, then why are RT's on their way to
> being a feature?
>>> 
> Abuse is the concern. Not duplicate content, right?
>>> 
> So a local restaurant can't setup a tweet to go out on Wednesdays to
> remind their followers of 1/2 off appetizers? There's no ill intent
> here, and they have businesses to run. Doesn't twitter want businesses
> to foster it's platform? There's valid uses for recurring content
> within reason. It's not realistic to ask users to come up with 52
> unique headlines, hunt down the associated link and fire up the laptop
> prior to happy to hour every Wednesday at 6:00 in order to get a
> message out to people who opted to follow them.
>>> 
> What's the happy-medium here?
>>> 
> On Oct 13, 4:00 pm, JDG  wrote:
>>> 
>> They already do that ... in SOME cases. Pharmacies are required (or
 maybe
>> simply strongly encouraged) to sell OTC meds like Sudafed behind the
 counter
>> because some people use that to make crystal meth. The government
 requires a
>> waiting period on guns because some people use guns to murder people.
>>> 
>> Rightly or wrongly -- and I seriously believe you did this with no
 abusive
>> intent -- you provided a tool that made it very easy for users to post
>> duplicate tweets. They didn't shut you down. They gave you a stern
 warning.
>>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 14:39, Dewald Pretorius 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Now there is an excellent analogy, which begs the question, "Where is
>>> the user's responsibility in this?"
>>> 
>>> I have very clearly warned my users, every time they enter a tweet,
>>> that they must adhere to the Twitter Rules, with hyperlinks to those
>>> rules. That was not good enough.
>>> 
>>> So, with your analogy in mind, should the authorities pull over
>>> speeders, or should they shut down manufacturers that make vehicles
>>> that can exceed the speed limit? Or, in a different analogy, should
>>> the government shut down Home Depot because they sell chain saws and
>>> box cutters, and some people use chain saws and box cutters to murder
>>> other human beings?
>>> 
>>> Dewald
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 5:31 pm, JDG  wrote:
 Yes, and should be treated as such. I persona

[twitter-dev] Re: Problems getting other people's friend list or follower list

[Howard Siegel]

It would be useful to others if you posted more information about what
the solution was.

- h

On 2009-11-03, lane.montgomery  wrote:
>
> Problem solved.
>
> On Nov 3, 7:03 am, "lane.montgomery" 
> wrote:
>> Hi, just signed up for the forum and posting a new topic. Gotta love
>> people like me, but I really need the help.
>>
>> When I make a call to the API like this:
>>
>> $user1results = $to->OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/friends/
>> ids/'.$user1.'.json', array(), 'GET');
>>
>> or this:
>>
>> $user1results = $to->OAuthRequest('https://twitter.com/followers/
>> ids/'.$user1.'.json', array(), 'GET');
>>
>> and pass the $user1 variable from a form entry, no matter what it is,
>> it always returns MY username's friend list or follower list.
>>
>> Am I crazy, I thought you could request other people's info as long as
>> your account had access to that information on Twitter. But no matter
>> what I do, even hard-coding somebody's username in there, it still
>> only pulls my information.
>>
>> 7am and headed out to work, but I was up to 3am this morning working
>> on this to no avail. I really am stuck.
>>
>> Let me know if you want to help me but need more code examples. I am
>> using the standard OAuth library linked to from twitter's apikiwi by:
>> Abraham Williams (abra...@abrah.am)http://abrah.amif that helps any.
>>
>> Thanks to anybody for any assistance you can offer!
>

Re: [twitter-dev] Spurious SMS notifications

[Howard Siegel]

I've been getting errant SMS messages from Twitter for a few days, though I
have not received any today (as yet).  I have turned on SMS only for DMs and
none of these were DMs to me.  I have not yet actually verified that I am
following all of the folks from whom I've gotten the errant SMSes though.

- h

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 15:02, Kee Hinckley  wrote:

> I am receiving spurious SMS notifications for tweets sent by people I am
> following, but do not have notifications turned on for. These are *not*
> retweets, I've even asked a couple of the original senders to check and see
> if the item had been retweeted, and the answer was no. Furthermore, I only
> have my account (@nazgul) set to receive text messages for about four users,
> and none of them retweeted these messages. Possibly related, I have a friend
> who turned off *all* phone notifications over a day ago, and is still
> getting random new text messages from people she follows but didn't set to
> send her notificationqs.
>
> Examples:
>
> I confirmed that these were not retweeted by anyone for whom I get
> notifications (or in one case, by anyone at all).
>
> http://twitter.com/stevegarfield/status/6463021810
> http://twitter.com/daddyclaxton/status/6463935419
>
> Others I haven't had a chance to investigate, but which it seems highly
> unlikely were retweeted by anyone who sends me notifications.
> http://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/6500306267
> http://twitter.com/stoweboyd/status/6497224194
>

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Spurious SMS notifications

[Howard Siegel]

Just got my first errant SMS message today.  This one is from someone that I
am following.

- h

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 16:15, mccv  wrote:

> Ok, thanks for the info.  We have people working on this.
>
> On Dec 9, 3:51 pm, Howard Siegel  wrote:
> > I've been getting errant SMS messages from Twitter for a few days, though
> I
> > have not received any today (as yet).  I have turned on SMS only for DMs
> and
> > none of these were DMs to me.  I have not yet actually verified that I am
> > following all of the folks from whom I've gotten the errant SMSes though.
> >
> > - h
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 15:02, Kee Hinckley  wrote:
> > > I am receiving spurious SMS notifications for tweets sent by people I
> am
> > > following, but do not have notifications turned on for. These are *not*
> > > retweets, I've even asked a couple of the original senders to check and
> see
> > > if the item had been retweeted, and the answer was no. Furthermore, I
> only
> > > have my account (@nazgul) set to receive text messages for about four
> users,
> > > and none of them retweeted these messages. Possibly related, I have a
> friend
> > > who turned off *all* phone notifications over a day ago, and is still
> > > getting random new text messages from people she follows but didn't set
> to
> > > send her notificationqs.
> >
> > > Examples:
> >
> > > I confirmed that these were not retweeted by anyone for whom I get
> > > notifications (or in one case, by anyone at all).
> >
> > >http://twitter.com/stevegarfield/status/6463021810
> > >http://twitter.com/daddyclaxton/status/6463935419
> >
> > > Others I haven't had a chance to investigate, but which it seems highly
> > > unlikely were retweeted by anyone who sends me notifications.
> > >http://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/6500306267
> > >http://twitter.com/stoweboyd/status/6497224194
>

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Spurious SMS notifications

[Howard Siegel]

I've started getting new spurious SMS messages again.  The latest set of
messages started coming in yesterday evening.

- h

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 21:14, Mark McBride  wrote:

> We believe we've addressed this issue.  If you see any further SMSs or
> tweets please let me know.
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Howard Siegel  wrote:
> > Just got my first errant SMS message today.  This one is from someone
> that I
> > am following.
> >
> > - h
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 16:15, mccv  wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, thanks for the info.  We have people working on this.
> >>
> >> On Dec 9, 3:51 pm, Howard Siegel  wrote:
> >> > I've been getting errant SMS messages from Twitter for a few days,
> >> > though I
> >> > have not received any today (as yet).  I have turned on SMS only for
> DMs
> >> > and
> >> > none of these were DMs to me.  I have not yet actually verified that I
> >> > am
> >> > following all of the folks from whom I've gotten the errant SMSes
> >> > though.
> >> >
> >> > - h
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 15:02, Kee Hinckley 
> wrote:
> >> > > I am receiving spurious SMS notifications for tweets sent by people
> I
> >> > > am
> >> > > following, but do not have notifications turned on for. These are
> >> > > *not*
> >> > > retweets, I've even asked a couple of the original senders to check
> >> > > and see
> >> > > if the item had been retweeted, and the answer was no. Furthermore,
> I
> >> > > only
> >> > > have my account (@nazgul) set to receive text messages for about
> four
> >> > > users,
> >> > > and none of them retweeted these messages. Possibly related, I have
> a
> >> > > friend
> >> > > who turned off *all* phone notifications over a day ago, and is
> still
> >> > > getting random new text messages from people she follows but didn't
> >> > > set to
> >> > > send her notificationqs.
> >> >
> >> > > Examples:
> >> >
> >> > > I confirmed that these were not retweeted by anyone for whom I get
> >> > > notifications (or in one case, by anyone at all).
> >> >
> >> > >http://twitter.com/stevegarfield/status/6463021810
> >> > >http://twitter.com/daddyclaxton/status/6463935419
> >> >
> >> > > Others I haven't had a chance to investigate, but which it seems
> >> > > highly
> >> > > unlikely were retweeted by anyone who sends me notifications.
> >> > >http://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/6500306267
> >> > >http://twitter.com/stoweboyd/status/6497224194
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>---Mark
>
> http://twitter.com/mccv
>

[twitter-dev] please give us a way to test error 93

[Howard Gutowitz]

we're ready to test.

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[twitter-dev] Re: 401: Could not authenticate with OAuth.

[Howard Gutowitz]

me too.

On Jun 27, 6:09 pm, vishal  wrote:
> I am having trouble posting to twitter from my ruby on rails app. The
> consumer keys and secrets are correct, also the oauth token and secret
> seem to be fine. The code used to work fine but I have been getting
> these error since today morning. Is anyone facing the same issue or am
> I going wrong anywhere?
>
> client = Twitter::Client.new(
>                         :consumer_key => 'X',
>                         :consumer_secret => 'XX',
>                         :oauth_token => "XX",
>                         :oauth_token_secret => "",
>                          :endpoint => 'https://api.twitter.com')
>
> # @proxy=nil, @endpoint="https://api.twitter.com";,
> @search_endpoint="https://search.twitter.com/";, @format=:json,
> @consumer_key="", @oauth_token_secret="",
> @adapter=:net_http, @oauth_token="",
> @consumer_secret="XXX">
>
> client.update "post message"
>
> Twitter::Unauthorized: POSThttps://api.twitter.com/statuses/update.json:
> 401: Could not authenticate with OAuth.
>
> Thanks
> Vishal Kajjam

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[twitter-dev] Re: 401: Could not authenticate with OAuth.

[Howard Gutowitz]

Specifically I have:



'account/verify_credentials.xml' finishes with HTTP 200
All other requests work fine. Only 'friendships/create.xml' and
'friendships/delete.xml request fails with the following error:



  Could not authenticate with OAuth.
  /1/friendships/create.xml?screen_name=rosariodawson


Request's header
Authorization = "OAuth realm=\"\",
oauth_consumer_key=\"X\", oauth_token=\"179876397-
xcJcDpijQ7Mde1QCGfTUHdLLbxWovkQhCiqXdDA\", oauth_signature_method=
\"HMAC-
SHA1\", oauth_signature=\"Gl7u0xZ3iGRKPS%2BFMNHBTB0Gwkg%3D\",
oauth_timestamp=\"1309173898\", oauth_nonce=\"26DA6912-F3CC-40A6-B746-
B4F18135C321\", oauth_version=\"1.0\"";
"X-Twitter-Client" = TwTool;
"X-Twitter-Client-Url" = "http://www.eatoni.com/";;
"X-Twitter-Client-Version" = 1;

Response's header
"Cache-Control" = "no-cache, max-age=1800";
Connection = "Keep-Alive";
"Content-Encoding" = gzip;
"Content-Type" = "application/xml; charset=utf-8";
Date = "Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:27:20 GMT";
Expires = "Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:57:20 GMT";
"Keep-Alive" = "timeout=15, max=100";
Server = hi;
"Set-Cookie" = "k=213.108.72.42.1309174040693549; path=/;
expires=Mon,
04-Jul-11 11:27:20 GMT; domain=.twitter.com,
guest_id=130917404070357573;
path=/; expires=Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:27:20 GMT,
_twitter_sess=BAh7CDoHaWQiJTcyZmM4ZTk0ODkzMThkZjZjY2FhNzIxMjMwNjQ2ZTVlIgpm
%250AbGFzaElDOidBY3Rpb25Db250cm9sbGVyOjpGbGFzaDo6Rmxhc2hIYXNoewAG
%250AOgpAdXNlZHsAOg9jcmVhdGVkX2F0bCsIhoja0DAB
--bc92ade75da0322e48b793fbee2dff7ad914b087; domain=.twitter.com;
path=/;
HttpOnly";
Status = "401 Unauthorized";
"Transfer-Encoding" = Identity;
Vary = "Accept-Encoding";
"Www-Authenticate" = "OAuth realm=\"https://api.twitter.com\"";;
"X-Runtime" = "0.00949";





On Jun 27, 6:09 pm, vishal  wrote:
> I am having trouble posting to twitter from my ruby on rails app. The
> consumer keys and secrets are correct, also the oauth token and secret
> seem to be fine. The code used to work fine but I have been getting
> these error since today morning. Is anyone facing the same issue or am
> I going wrong anywhere?
>
> client = Twitter::Client.new(
>                         :consumer_key => 'X',
>                         :consumer_secret => 'XX',
>                         :oauth_token => "XX",
>                         :oauth_token_secret => "",
>                          :endpoint => 'https://api.twitter.com')
>
> # @proxy=nil, @endpoint="https://api.twitter.com";,
> @search_endpoint="https://search.twitter.com/";, @format=:json,
> @consumer_key="", @oauth_token_secret="",
> @adapter=:net_http, @oauth_token="",
> @consumer_secret="XXX">
>
> client.update "post message"
>
> Twitter::Unauthorized: POSThttps://api.twitter.com/statuses/update.json:
> 401: Could not authenticate with OAuth.
>
> Thanks
> Vishal Kajjam

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