Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki On 01/09/2011 02:18, Doug Averch wrote: Eclipse runs as client software. You have plenty of disk space on your workstation. Your workstation CPU is barely registering when you are using any Eclipse based software. If you don't want to use a tool that will save your company money, too bad for you but your boss does. If you are worried about your client machine that cost nothing compared to what an unproductive programmer wastes using antiquated tools, you may not have a job next year. Do you think any twenty-five year old programmer would be caught dead with line editor like AE, ED, VIM, EMACS, Notepad+, or whatever? Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html Building tools for the next generation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Hi Doug, A few questions: How do you know how much disk space there is on my workstation? How do you know what my CPU is doing? Since when does my workstation cost nothing? When did VIM, EMACS and Notepad+ become line editors? When you are replying to a post, would you at least quote the salient portions of that post? It puts your reply in context, especially for someone who didn't read the original. Regards, Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlienoah The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 08-31-2011 8:18 PM, Doug Averch wrote: Eclipse runs as client software. You have plenty of disk space on your workstation. Your workstation CPU is barely registering when you are using any Eclipse based software. If you don't want to use a tool that will save your company money, too bad for you but your boss does. If you are worried about your client machine that cost nothing compared to what an unproductive programmer wastes using antiquated tools, you may not have a job next year. Do you think any twenty-five year old programmer would be caught dead with line editor like AE, ED, VIM, EMACS, Notepad+, or whatever? Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html Building tools for the next generation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
I got my HyperEdit to work. All happy now. Thanks for all the responses, it was a real eye-opener. Wyatt Buffington AMPS Support Manitoba Hydro -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:17 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS Hi Doug, A few questions: How do you know how much disk space there is on my workstation? How do you know what my CPU is doing? Since when does my workstation cost nothing? When did VIM, EMACS and Notepad+ become line editors? When you are replying to a post, would you at least quote the salient portions of that post? It puts your reply in context, especially for someone who didn't read the original. Regards, Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlienoah The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 08-31-2011 8:18 PM, Doug Averch wrote: Eclipse runs as client software. You have plenty of disk space on your workstation. Your workstation CPU is barely registering when you are using any Eclipse based software. If you don't want to use a tool that will save your company money, too bad for you but your boss does. If you are worried about your client machine that cost nothing compared to what an unproductive programmer wastes using antiquated tools, you may not have a job next year. Do you think any twenty-five year old programmer would be caught dead with line editor like AE, ED, VIM, EMACS, Notepad+, or whatever? Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html Building tools for the next generation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Let alone one, whose sole purpose for us (U2) is to highlight code. Well a good program editor - like mvDeveloper (grin) or Doug's U2 Editor - does a lot more than just highlight. It's about ease of navigation and assisting developers to work faster and more efficiently. Doug and I have taken different routes to that - Doug's editor is arguably more powerful, mine is arguably lighter - but where they both score over general editors is in understanding the code they are dealing with. That manifests in all kinds of ways. In mvDeveloper, for example, you can right click to open a called subroutine or include file, can jump to a label in a program, can quickly navigate a program by label (Ctl-U move to previous label, Ctl-D down to the next label), can comment in and out (even for PROC), can perform a quick conversion on an internal date and time, can edit associated multivalues in a grid, pull up keyword help .. In short, lots of things that are specific to the platform and to the people who use it. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
I like Brian that you have a Windows installer for your software, which it did seemlessly, it was beautiful -- it made me cry. And I like that it's only 5 Meg. But my host is a remote system, not local. The first thing your software does is complain that it can't find Uniobjects. Should it be able to find it over a network connection? Or does this only work with locally installed Universe systems. Will -Original Message- From: Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 6:09 am Subject: Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS Let alone one, whose sole purpose for us (U2) is to highlight code. Well a good program editor - like mvDeveloper (grin) or Doug's U2 Editor - oes a lot more than just highlight. It's about ease of navigation and assisting developers to work faster and ore efficiently. Doug and I have taken different routes to that - Doug's ditor is arguably more powerful, mine is arguably lighter - but where they oth score over general editors is in understanding the code they are ealing with. That manifests in all kinds of ways. In mvDeveloper, for example, you can ight click to open a called subroutine or include file, can jump to a label n a program, can quickly navigate a program by label (Ctl-U move to revious label, Ctl-D down to the next label), can comment in and out (even or PROC), can perform a quick conversion on an internal date and time, can dit associated multivalues in a grid, pull up keyword help .. In short, lots of things that are specific to the platform and to the people ho use it. Brian __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Hi Will, You should be able to connect to a UV machine anywhere on planet earth using mvDeveloper. It sounds to me like you are missing the UODOTNET library, which needs to be on your local machine in order to expedite the connection to the server. One way to get this on your machine is to download the UniVerse Clients software package from the Rocket Website and install the UniDK, which will show as one of the items to install on the installation screen. http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/downloads/register-universe.html After you have installed this you should find the UODOTNET in the following folder on your C: drive: C:\U2\UniDK\uonet\bin Then I am presuming your connection from mvDeveloper to any UV database, irrelevant of location or OS should work. Grüße Glenn Am 01.09.2011 21:44, schrieb Wjhonson: I like Brian that you have a Windows installer for your software, which it did seemlessly, it was beautiful -- it made me cry. And I like that it's only 5 Meg. But my host is a remote system, not local. The first thing your software does is complain that it can't find Uniobjects. Should it be able to find it over a network connection? Or does this only work with locally installed Universe systems. Will -Original Message- From: Brian Leachbr...@brianleach.co.uk To: 'U2 Users List'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 6:09 am Subject: Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS Let alone one, whose sole purpose for us (U2) is to highlight code. Well a good program editor - like mvDeveloper (grin) or Doug's U2 Editor - oes a lot more than just highlight. It's about ease of navigation and assisting developers to work faster and ore efficiently. Doug and I have taken different routes to that - Doug's ditor is arguably more powerful, mine is arguably lighter - but where they oth score over general editors is in understanding the code they are ealing with. That manifests in all kinds of ways. In mvDeveloper, for example, you can ight click to open a called subroutine or include file, can jump to a label n a program, can quickly navigate a program by label (Ctl-U move to revious label, Ctl-D down to the next label), can comment in and out (even or PROC), can perform a quick conversion on an internal date and time, can dit associated multivalues in a grid, pull up keyword help .. In short, lots of things that are specific to the platform and to the people ho use it. Brian __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Oops, I should have used a calculator 9670 should have been 11,200 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Oops, should have used that darn calculator: 11,200 lines of code saving the company $1600.00. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Doug, The notion of lines of code being a measure of productivity makes me uneasy. It is possible for someone to write 500 lines of efficient code using ED which solve the problem at hand, in half the time than another developer who writes 1000 lines of badly structured code to solve the same problem using GUI Editor X. So yes, to a certain extent the tool you use can help, but whether money is saved or not depends heavily on the mind and skills of the person using the tool. As for me, I am still writing my code using Quills and Parchment, and still have a solution faster than using other mainstream technologies, although I do plan to upgrade to vi or ED at some point ;-) Glenn Am 01.09.2011 22:36, schrieb Doug Averch: Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote: Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
Glenn just upgrading from parchment to paper will save the lives of many goats and you won't need to spend all those hours scraping the skins to the right thinness, before you can use it. I find also that quills have a nasty tendency to drip Is that line of code X = 45? or does it say No sex after 45? The difference could be staggering. -Original Message- From: Glenn Sallis u...@glennsallis.de To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2011 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS Doug, The notion of lines of code being a measure of productivity makes me neasy. It is possible for someone to write 500 lines of efficient code using ED hich solve the problem at hand, in half the time than another developer ho writes 1000 lines of badly structured code to solve the same problem sing GUI Editor X. So yes, to a certain extent the tool you use can help, but whether money s saved or not depends heavily on the mind and skills of the person sing the tool. As for me, I am still writing my code using Quills and Parchment, and till have a solution faster than using other mainstream technologies, lthough I do plan to upgrade to vi or ED at some point ;-) Glenn Am 01.09.2011 22:36, schrieb Doug Averch: Hi Mecki: Let us say, for example, that you can produce 60 lines of debugged code per hour. You cost the company $60.00 per hour including benefits. So the cost of each line of code is $1.00. You will produce in theory (160/hrs*60) 9600 lines of code per month for a cost of $9600.00. This amazing tool from U2logic comes along and you produce a extra 10 lines of code per hour. You will produce in theory 160/hrs*70) 9670 line of code for the same cost of 9600.00 saving the company $70.00. So the $49.00 you pay U2logic, pays for itself in about a month in this scenario. This math works if you productivity is only increase by one line per hour. You only have to have 49 programming hours in this Eclipse based tool to pay for it, or about a week and two days. We use this tool everyday and so does many U2 programmers throughout the world. We know I'm more productive than I was using any of my former tools: VI, or EMACS, or Notepad, or AE, or ED. If you are not a programmer, then this, or any tool, as limited value. But for the rest of us and our boss, they want us productive and our code clean. After being at Fortune 1000 companies and showing our software applications, we would not dare to show anyone how we have to edit program using the built-in editors in Unidata and Universe. Before we developed our Eclipse based editor, every CIO or CTO or CEO or just middle management asked us all of the time: Is this a DOS tool? Of course not we would answer and not get the sale! Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote: Doug, How does my company save money if they have to buy and pay an annual license fee for an editor? They might as well ban going to the toilet or making and drinking coffee during working hours. I probably could be even more productive if the company would pay ME more and not you. I can understand that it must be frustrating for you having spent a lot of time developing a piece of software that nobody wants to buy. But threatening that we will all loose our jobs and be replaced by 25 year old kids with no clue if we don't convince our boss to buy your tool won't change that. Writing code is time wise the least of my daily tasks. And I guess like me most of us here are analysts first and coders last. Mecki ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Glenn just upgrading from parchment to paper will save the lives of many goats and you won't need to spend all those hours scraping the skins to the right thinness, before you can use it. I find also that quills have a nasty tendency to drip Is that line of code X = 45? or does it say No sex after 45? The difference could be staggering. omg, only 3 years left o.0 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On 01/09/11 21:52, Glenn Sallis wrote: Doug, The notion of lines of code being a measure of productivity makes me uneasy. It is possible for someone to write 500 lines of efficient code using ED which solve the problem at hand, in half the time than another developer who writes 1000 lines of badly structured code to solve the same problem using GUI Editor X. :-) Says me who rather upset my supervisor of the time by rewriting some code he was oh so proud of. I replaced about 8 pages of printout with some ten lines or so ... Just because I knew about MATPARSE. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?
I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL. Basically because IBM is putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012. Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 6 - 64bit? I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2 Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week... https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6. I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat two years from now. -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?
I can't speak to 11.1 but we are running 10.2.7 just fine on RHEL 64bit. Perry - Original Message - From: John Thompson [mailto:jthompson...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 06:02 PM To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences? I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL. Basically because IBM is putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012. Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 6 - 64bit? I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2 Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week... https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6. I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat two years from now. -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?
Hi John, I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and financially! Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using previous versions of 11.1 for the tests. Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and I am pretty confident you will report back with positive news. Regards Glenn Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson: I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL. Basically because IBM is putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012. Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 6 - 64bit? I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2 Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week... https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6. I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat two years from now. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?
I work with both RHEL AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here, because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move, and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a Blade H center, populated with 2 PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew warranty 3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each, fitting in the same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux, but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation is at all non-standard (um, U2). I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline: downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it, thanks. Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200 From: u...@glennsallis.de To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences? Hi John, I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and financially! Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using previous versions of 11.1 for the tests. Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and I am pretty confident you will report back with positive news. Regards Glenn Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson: I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL. Basically because IBM is putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012. Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 6 - 64bit? I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2 Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week... https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6. I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat two years from now. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
