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I am aware. I do like your product. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Susan Joslyn sjos...@sjplus.com wrote: Hi Steve, Just in case you didn't know -- PRC does all of that. J Regards, Susan Joslyn PRC - IT Governance for U2 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:13:31 -0500 From: Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration Message-ID: Something I have long desired is diff tool for mv records (that will use standard diff/patch output) so it can integrate with other tools. Maybe a packager for SB+ A diff tool for SB+ that understand what records make up an SB+ object. I started some thinking this direction on a sourceforge project, but got busy on many other things. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
In order to realize this vision, does every solution have to be implemented in PICK? If the goal is to make our development tasks more efficient it is making sure the labor that one of us puts in is not reproduced by another, i.e. Pick syntax files for various tools. The collaboration point whether it is pickwiki or another, does not have to host the code, but pointers to the places where the resource can be maintained properly. An example is the MAKEXML program on the wiki. I have used that many times and I seriously appreciate ECL and KRJ for making it available. Is it perfect, not really, every time I use it, I get the docstring twice. The wiki is not the way to communicate that it needs a patch. If I did (which I should) fix my copy, who do I communicate it to? We also need to let people know under what license we post the code under. Can I put MAKEXML up on my github and patch it, giving attribution to ECL and KRJ? On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: As the OP, I like the idea of a wiki, provided it can either use straight HTML, use MediaWiki markup (which is slightly different), or use a WYSIWIG like sites.google.com or pbwiki uses. I find that only a few of these have gained sufficient traction that most gearheads know how to use them, the other competitors are just more headaches. Make it searchable. Sure. I assume that any web pages are searchable. You have to actively make something not searchable AFAIK. Useful examples - hopefully. Make sense to everyone - probably not as possible. But anything that doesn't make sense, you'd be able to markup I didn't address docs, but sure why not. Collaborate - that's the main point of my message really. To find a way to collaborate that is more immediate, and more used that PickWiki which seems very cob-webby to me. -Original Message- From: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration So, I thought what the original poster was getting at was: 1) Create a documentation/wiki/example site ) Make it searchable ) Have useful examples that make sense to everyone ) Also post the vendor/var docs ) Collaborate on ideas (like we do here) Maybe you guys are talking about something else... Github, svn, cvs, PRC and all those are great tools, but, they probably ren't going to create the Wikipedia of the MV world. The above can be done, but, it needs to become a living/breathing thing hat gets updated a lot, otherwise, folks won't use it. Hence the hallenge- making it a living/breathing thing. I know this kind of thing has been tried, and is being tried... but there robably isn't enough flag waving and marketing to keep it going. Or people create something, and try to make it subscription based, which in his day and time is never going to work with something like the above. Some of the things I know about are: http://www.nuwiki.com/cgi-bin/nuwiki.cgi?homeproject=nuwiki ttp://www.keyally.com/prdb/universe/basic_tree_all.html ttp://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl Anyway, I'd like to help with something like that. I'm just not sure at my tage in life, that I have the time to spearhead it and become the chief Architect of something like that. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Personally I respond more immediately when something comes at me. Would it not be possible to set up a mailing list for any changes to Incubator code? So all users on that list get emailed when a change is made? I think this would propel both use of the code, and smisuse/s enhancement. -Original Message- From: Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration Mecki Thats why the board launched the Incubator project early this year. The intent s for this to become a repository of useful working examples of using the echnology. But I don't have the time to write those all myself and we have been rying to pursuade the community to get involved. Brian ent from my ASUS Eee Pad Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: I think a major problem is the lack of training/documentation. Great that there are all these new possibilities, but if you have to figure everything out yourself it becomes very difficult to keep up with the technology. A lot of VARs (especially ours) are no help if you get the feeling they know even less then you do. It is very frustrating if the business asks, 'can we do that?' and you can only answer, 'yes, I know it's possible but I don't know how to make it work.' And how am I to show the young guys all the flash things I have seen in demos or heard about here if I can't get them to work myself? On 17/11/2011 20:55, David Jordan wrote: The U2UG board has
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
I wonder if everyone should host where they feel comfortable. The common place we congregate should just have pointers out. The main point I was making is _any_ wiki is not the right place to share _the_ code. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Let's say you load a piece of code that does a great XML parsing, but I want to watch that code to get the next update from say... some other guy changing that code and republishing it right in the same spot. That's a subscription to a page change. But it's not *my* code, I didn't change it or load it. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:53 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration 'GitHub can notify you when people interact with your code' You have account settings to turn on/off exactly what you get notified about. Does that meet your requirements? -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:42 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration I will only be involved if there is a way to subscribe to changes, so they come t me, instead of me needing to go to them. -Original Message- rom: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:39 am ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration will personally pay for a business bronze github subscription to help set this . e need a small handful of people who are willing to work with setting this up operly as well as people who already have tools worthy of being shared to mail hose people either permission to them in the repository. teve Will, would you be willing to be involved? Anyone who is can email me @ nmcg...@gmail.com and I will set it up this weekend then email out the formation to get this started. nce people are committed we can work out appropriate licensing info, etc. egards, n Original Message- om: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] Behalf Of Steve Romanow nt: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:16 AM : U2 Users List bject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration n order to realize this vision, does every solution have to be implemented in CK? f the goal is to make our development tasks more efficient it is making sure e labor that one of us puts in is not reproduced by another, i.e. Pick syntax les for various tools. he collaboration point whether it is pickwiki or another, does not have to st the code, but pointers to the places where the resource can be maintained operly. n example is the MAKEXML program on the wiki. I have used that many times and eriously appreciate ECL and KRJ for making it available. it perfect, not really, every time I use it, I get the docstring twice. The ki is not the way to communicate that it needs a patch. I did (which I should) fix my copy, who do I communicate it to? We also need let people know under what license we post the code under. Can I put MAKEXML on my github and patch it, giving attribution to ECL and KRJ? On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: As the OP, I like the idea of a wiki, provided it can either use straight TML, se MediaWiki markup (which is slightly different), or use a WYSIWIG like tes.google.com or pbwiki uses. I find that only a few of these have gained fficient traction that most gearheads know how to use them, the other mpetitors are just more headaches. Make it searchable. Sure. I assume that any web pages are searchable. You ve to actively make something not searchable AFAIK. Useful examples - hopefully. Make sense to everyone - probably not as ossible. But anything that doesn't make sense, you'd be able to markup I didn't address docs, but sure why not. Collaborate - that's the main point of my message really. To find a way to llaborate that is more immediate, and more used that PickWiki which seems very b-webby to me. -Original Message- From: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration So, I thought what the original poster was getting at was: 1) Create a documentation/wiki/example site ) Make it searchable ) Have useful examples that make sense to everyone ) Also post the vendor/var docs ) Collaborate on ideas (like we do here) Maybe you guys are talking about omething else... Github, svn, cvs, PRC and all those are great tools, but, they probably ren't oing to create the Wikipedia of the MV world. The above can be done, but, it needs to become a living/breathing thing hat ets updated a lot, otherwise, folks won't use it. Hence the hallenge- making it a living/breathing thing
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Github is pretty good for that, as well as bitbucket. Forks are cheap, and you can also set yourself as watching a repo. In my bitbucket u2-tools repo is a copy of ADD_XML_ELEMENT() which was from Gregor's UV space blog. I talked to him and he was ok with me putting it up there, but that is my modded copy to work with Unidata, not universe. Nearly all of the tools we have discussed offer an rss feed. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Let's say you load a piece of code that does a great XML parsing, but I want to watch that code to get the next update from say... some other guy changing that code and republishing it right in the same spot. That's a subscription to a page change. But it's not *my* code, I didn't change it or load it. I am not sure how realistic it is for source code to be edited in wiki fashion. What about testing? Where do you file bugs or feature requests? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Does pickwiki bring changes to you? I get emails from GH and BB as well. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. What I would love to see is the MV community join the rest of the worlds developers, and sharpen our skills. We are currently way too ingrown to attract new blood. Heck, even g+ group could be fun. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: There's a miscommunication here. I don't want a site where I have to go TO the site. I want the changes to come to me. Watching a github site, means you have to go to github. Rather, we should have a site where you can subscribe through email, to changes, so they come to your email box. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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I'm sorry. I am going to continue doing what I do. Using any modern tool that I feel is helpful and/or potentially useful in my job. If anyone would like to collaborate, I'll be online, easy enough to find. Good luck everyone. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Does pickwiki bring changes to you? I get emails from GH and BB as well. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. What I would love to see is the MV community join the rest of the worlds developers, and sharpen our skills. We are currently way too ingrown to attract new blood. Heck, even g+ group could be fun. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: There's a miscommunication here. I don't want a site where I have to go TO the site. I want the changes to come to me. Watching a github site, means you have to go to github. Rather, we should have a site where you can subscribe through email, to changes, so they come to your email box. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] guide problem
You can strace it and maybe the problem will show itself. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Does anybody know what would cause a segmentation fault while running guide? Red hat 2.6.9-5.ELsmp Unidata 7.1 Haven't changed the OS or Unidata version for a long time. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Another need/want I have is a pygments [1] file for Unibasic. That was syntax hilighting works on all the webapps that use pygments (such as github, trac, wordpress). [1] http://pygments.org/ On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: I have some U2 related code on these two sites. https://bitbucket.org/slestak/u2-tools https://github.com/slestak/RocketUnidata On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Github, SF.net, Bitbucket, etc are setup to allow team collaboration. For each project there are issue trackers, wiki, code browsing, etc. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:02 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know what I think the real problem is... Most of us have about 100 irons in the fire, and, we would all love to maintain/contribute, but, every time we start something, we realize, Oh crap, someone has to administer that Then once the poor soul administering it, gets busy, misses a few requests, etc... then the people contributing say, Oh well, that must not be maintained anymore, or that guy/gal must be busy. I think we can create something, the real problem is, finding folks with enough time/motivation/drive, etc. to monitor/maintain/administer it. Contributing is the easy part. Organizing, documenting, and making it presentable is the hard part. On top of that most programmers/technicians, are sucky documenters, or would rather not document at all, OR, they assume that you are as smart as they are, or were when they wrote something. So I'm for it, and I could devote some time to it here and there... But, we have to overcome the challenges I mentioned. Thats my two cents. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The PickWiki is a place where code can be published, but I haven't seen even one case where code has been taken, enhanced, and put back. So it doesn't appear to be a good place for collaboration. If people however post code snippets here, or at comp.databases.pick there will be remarks and modifications within hours. Attempts at making Pick code collaboration projects have been mostly unsuccessful. Why? How can we create a true collaborative project and Would Anyone Come ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Dynamic Connect TimeOut
Are you using System Builder? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Bill Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com wrote: A user here with a Windows 7 PC indicates that DC keeps logging him out... automatically. He says that he launches DC in the morning... minimizes it... comes back later... and is presented with the unix login prompt. We have UniVerse v10.3.6 running on HP-Ux 11i v2. This problem is new to me. I presume that he has a timeout parameter specified somewhere in the Ux login. Help would be appreciated. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Github, SF.net, Bitbucket, etc are setup to allow team collaboration. For each project there are issue trackers, wiki, code browsing, etc. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:02 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know what I think the real problem is... Most of us have about 100 irons in the fire, and, we would all love to maintain/contribute, but, every time we start something, we realize, Oh crap, someone has to administer that Then once the poor soul administering it, gets busy, misses a few requests, etc... then the people contributing say, Oh well, that must not be maintained anymore, or that guy/gal must be busy. I think we can create something, the real problem is, finding folks with enough time/motivation/drive, etc. to monitor/maintain/administer it. Contributing is the easy part. Organizing, documenting, and making it presentable is the hard part. On top of that most programmers/technicians, are sucky documenters, or would rather not document at all, OR, they assume that you are as smart as they are, or were when they wrote something. So I'm for it, and I could devote some time to it here and there... But, we have to overcome the challenges I mentioned. Thats my two cents. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The PickWiki is a place where code can be published, but I haven't seen even one case where code has been taken, enhanced, and put back. So it doesn't appear to be a good place for collaboration. If people however post code snippets here, or at comp.databases.pick there will be remarks and modifications within hours. Attempts at making Pick code collaboration projects have been mostly unsuccessful. Why? How can we create a true collaborative project and Would Anyone Come ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
I have some U2 related code on these two sites. https://bitbucket.org/slestak/u2-tools https://github.com/slestak/RocketUnidata On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Github, SF.net, Bitbucket, etc are setup to allow team collaboration. For each project there are issue trackers, wiki, code browsing, etc. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:02 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know what I think the real problem is... Most of us have about 100 irons in the fire, and, we would all love to maintain/contribute, but, every time we start something, we realize, Oh crap, someone has to administer that Then once the poor soul administering it, gets busy, misses a few requests, etc... then the people contributing say, Oh well, that must not be maintained anymore, or that guy/gal must be busy. I think we can create something, the real problem is, finding folks with enough time/motivation/drive, etc. to monitor/maintain/administer it. Contributing is the easy part. Organizing, documenting, and making it presentable is the hard part. On top of that most programmers/technicians, are sucky documenters, or would rather not document at all, OR, they assume that you are as smart as they are, or were when they wrote something. So I'm for it, and I could devote some time to it here and there... But, we have to overcome the challenges I mentioned. Thats my two cents. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The PickWiki is a place where code can be published, but I haven't seen even one case where code has been taken, enhanced, and put back. So it doesn't appear to be a good place for collaboration. If people however post code snippets here, or at comp.databases.pick there will be remarks and modifications within hours. Attempts at making Pick code collaboration projects have been mostly unsuccessful. Why? How can we create a true collaborative project and Would Anyone Come ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Dynamic Connect TimeOut
I would think if the firewall was an issue, you wouldn't be able to connect at all. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks John, I'll have a word with the system admin if I actually (need to) have the firewall switched on. Win7 is new to us. I have been the guinea pig and can live with it. But all new PCs in the company are now Win7 so getting this sorted would be nice. Mecki On 16/11/2011 19:53, John Thompson wrote: One thing to note, which you may already know... The Windows Firewall in WIndows 7 filters inbound and OUTBOUND traffic. So you may just want to turn it off altogether and see what happens. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote: ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Dynamic Connect TimeOut
Good point. DC just uses telnet on port 21 thought correct? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:04 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, maybe not. If one port is open on the firewall to allow the connection, but, another is required to keep the connection alive, and thats the one its not allowing out, then that could be your problem. Just another SWAG. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: I would think if the firewall was an issue, you wouldn't be able to connect at all. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks John, I'll have a word with the system admin if I actually (need to) have the firewall switched on. Win7 is new to us. I have been the guinea pig and can live with it. But all new PCs in the company are now Win7 so getting this sorted would be nice. Mecki On 16/11/2011 19:53, John Thompson wrote: One thing to note, which you may already know... The Windows Firewall in WIndows 7 filters inbound and OUTBOUND traffic. So you may just want to turn it off altogether and see what happens. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote: ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Dynamic Connect TimeOut
I bet Noel has it. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Good point. DC just uses telnet on port 21 thought correct? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:04 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, maybe not. If one port is open on the firewall to allow the connection, but, another is required to keep the connection alive, and thats the one its not allowing out, then that could be your problem. Just another SWAG. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: I would think if the firewall was an issue, you wouldn't be able to connect at all. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks John, I'll have a word with the system admin if I actually (need to) have the firewall switched on. Win7 is new to us. I have been the guinea pig and can live with it. But all new PCs in the company are now Win7 so getting this sorted would be nice. Mecki On 16/11/2011 19:53, John Thompson wrote: One thing to note, which you may already know... The Windows Firewall in WIndows 7 filters inbound and OUTBOUND traffic. So you may just want to turn it off altogether and see what happens. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote: ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Code Collaboration
Something I have long desired is diff tool for mv records (that will use standard diff/patch output) so it can integrate with other tools. Maybe a packager for SB+ A diff tool for SB+ that understand what records make up an SB+ object. I started some thinking this direction on a sourceforge project, but got busy on many other things. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rex Gozar rgo...@gmail.com wrote: So what collaborative project do you want to start? What do you want to build? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Yeah, the data is good, but the output is not what I want. and I couldn't use it on a select list of items. It is better than nothing, but not really what I am looking for. I use vimdiff a lot (with my U2 work) and one thing I love is when there is a difference on a line, it hilights where on the line the change is. If you use SB.COMPARE on say a report writer .TXT object, you know that a field has been added, but where the diff is not easily seen. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com wrote: I take it you find the SB+ /COMPARE tool a little wanting -Original Message- From: Steve Romanow Something I have long desired is diff tool for mv records (that will use standard diff/patch output) so it can integrate with other tools. Maybe a packager for SB+ A diff tool for SB+ that understand what records make up an SB+ object. I started some thinking this direction on a sourceforge project, but got busy on many other things. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Rex Gozar wrote: So what collaborative project do you want to start? What do you want to build? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control
I use Mercurial for my Unidata source code (which is in DIR files). Have been for maybe 2 years now. I do not try to run a separate working directory for each dev. I basically act as a company librarian and commit all changes for the team. It is not optimum, but it works for us. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Rex Gozar rgo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, Would it possible to export all the source code from PRC into a flat file/directory format for Mercurial? rex On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Tom Whitmore tewhitm...@ratex.com wrote: We use PRC, which is a PICK based product. We have seen a marked improvement in the whole development cycle since using PRC. Tom Whitmore RATEX Business Solutions ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control
One thing to be aware of with whichever vcs you choose, pat attention to end-of-line characters. There are some configuration settings in mercurial to say these are always unix files and will not let an checkin from a windows machine inadvertently send dos Ctl-M's. Git for aix is available here. http://www.perzl.org/aix/index.php?n=Main.Git Mercurial for AIX can be found here. http://www.lunch.org.uk/aix/rpms/ Note that Tortoise will only let you operate on a local repo. You can push and pull to the remote dvcs server, but any graphs or logs you view will be for your local clone of the servers repo. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Rex Gozar rgo...@gmail.com wrote: Bonnie, For CVS here, I setup TortoiseCVS to SSH into the linux machine and checkout/checkin changes to the repository. For Mercurial/TortoiseHg there should be something similar, e.g. hg push ssh://hguser@192.168.1.5/hg/, so you can push your changes to your designated repository. Is your repository on the AIX box? Then ssh is probably your best bet. Right now I am using cygwin on my development PC so I can port and test my shell scripts, so I do not have experience with TortoiseHg yet -- just command line stuff. Let me know what you do to get it going so I can copy your settings! rex What I do not understand is how to get the programs back out to make changes. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control
I think I am about to convert to git. After using both for a while, git is growing on me. It is a less opinionated tool. By that I suggest that is supports more workflows. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Barber, Bonnie bonnie.bar...@perseusbooks.com wrote: I will be glad to, if I ever get it figured out. I am still confused by all the new verbiage that goes with it, for instance the statement in the reply from WOL Lists: Except that - iirc (I use git) - mercurial is a DVCS, so the concept of check-in/out no longer exists ... I am just an old PICK person; this is all new stuff to me, LOL!! Bonnie -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:24 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control Bonnie, For CVS here, I setup TortoiseCVS to SSH into the linux machine and checkout/checkin changes to the repository. For Mercurial/TortoiseHg there should be something similar, e.g. hg push ssh://hguser@192.168.1.5/hg/, so you can push your changes to your designated repository. Is your repository on the AIX box? Then ssh is probably your best bet. Right now I am using cygwin on my development PC so I can port and test my shell scripts, so I do not have experience with TortoiseHg yet -- just command line stuff. Let me know what you do to get it going so I can copy your settings! rex What I do not understand is how to get the programs back out to make changes. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Error Message: non-writeable Subscribing File
Maybe pcperform a unix mv to rename it as a workaround. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jeff Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu wrote: On 11/14/2011 03:03 PM, Steve Lowe wrote: Since our move to the RH Linux (version 7.2.7) in May 2011, we have had problems with a Web application that should rename / copy a XML file to a HTML formatted file. The command being executed is: COPY FROM _HOLD_ FILE_NAME, FILE_NAME2 OVERWRITING DELETING On our OLD HP-UX server, the process worked correctly. Not so on the new RH environment. The error message is: _HOLD_(55124381,64770) is non-writeable subscribing file Search of the archives did not yield much. Permissions on the _HOLD_ directory are 777. This is an open bug with Rocket - I believe Wally was able to have some of their people reproduce this internally. -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes
Try opening the xml file with firefox or chrome to make sure it is a well formed file. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Bobby Worley bwor...@coburns.com wrote: My latest challenge: PREPARE.XML FEED.XML MYXML Prepare the XMLDOM failed. XMLParser error message: A DOM error occured during parsing. UNIVERSE RELLEVEL 001 X 002 11.1.0 003 PICK 004 PICK.FORMAT 005 11.1.0 Aix Version 5.3.0.0 FEED.XML is 16mb. It prepares just fine on UV 10.1.17. Unfortunately it wont list on UV 10.1 because UV 10.1 is not aware of namespaces. This is making my pull my hair out... I don't need this on a Friday. Bob Worley Coburn Supply ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation Mapper). Almost all higher level languages have them. Once you get things configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind syntactic sugar. Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python. If you are a microsoft shop, I understand LINQ us really nice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote: I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external applications to analyze some of the data. My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own table, keyed to the master table (1:n) But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - and creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins. What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
Are any of the multivalued fields associated to each other? You would have a subtable per association, not per column. The messiness still exists, it just needs to be managed. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:57 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote: I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle the 1:n other than the Sidebar tables joined to the master table. Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't want to involve any other apps The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something) Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued fields, and it seemed a little Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain the data in a form MySQL can handle. I guess that what Happens when you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced to work with one that Does not handle it natively! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:41 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues... It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation Mapper). Almost all higher level languages have them. Once you get things configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind syntactic sugar. Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python. If you are a microsoft shop, I understand LINQ us really nice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote: I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external applications to analyze some of the data. My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own table, keyed to the master table (1:n) But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - and creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins. What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
I have used Sleepy Mongoose to push data to mongo via curl. http://www.snailinaturtleneck.com/blog/2010/02/22/sleepy-mongoose-a-mongodb-rest-interface/ On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:07 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) nab...@mvdbs.com wrote: Try MongoDB - It's a good match to a mvdbms and has drivers for most common programming environments. djm phil walker-2 wrote: Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql which I believe supported nested tables built in? - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Suggestions-for-flattening-Multivalues...-tp32813168p32813844.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] OPENSEQ / WRITESEQ and UniObjects
I don't know if we have enough information. Does it start? No output whatsoever? IIRC, you can tell writeseq not to cache and to write to disk immediately. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Holt, Jake jh...@samsill.com wrote: I wrote a program to export some data using openseq/writeseq (to a local server drive, tried a UNC path too) and it works perfectly until I try to call it using UniObjects. Is this normal behavior? If so, anyway to make it work with UniObjects? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] OPENSEQ / WRITESEQ and UniObjects
I typically will throw a touch filename before the openseq. does the uniobjects user have permissions on the disk? Maybe try something innocuous to see if the job is executing at all. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Holt, Jake jh...@samsill.com wrote: It fails to write. It gives the failure to open error as well, but I believe that is fairly standard if the file doesn't exist before hand. It operations normally, just doesn't write the records to the file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] OPENSEQ / WRITESEQ and UniObjects I don't know if we have enough information. Does it start? No output whatsoever? IIRC, you can tell writeseq not to cache and to write to disk immediately. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Holt, Jake jh...@samsill.com wrote: I wrote a program to export some data using openseq/writeseq (to a local server drive, tried a UNC path too) and it works perfectly until I try to call it using UniObjects. Is this normal behavior? If so, anyway to make it work with UniObjects? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UD Re-indexing
Google for Take Ownership. I had some strange permissions errors on win7 that were resolved by not just having permissions, but I had to be the Owner of the file I was operating on. Do you have a support contract with Rocket? On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote: I run UD v7.2.7 on a Windows 2008 R2 machine. I've an account that has administrator and unidata group permissions assigned for full control. However, when I try to delete, recreate, then build the index on a particular multi-level file I get: ...removing indexes for APOPEN file... No indices created on file APOPEN ...removing indexes for APOPEN,HISTORY file... errno=13: Permission denied Delete index file 'APOPEN\X_HISTORY' failed ...now creating indexes for APOPEN... INDEX_1.HISTORY: can not create multiple indices on same location No new indices are created ...now creating indexes for APOPEN,HISTORY... One * represents 1000 records 8057 record(s) processed. The following is the index information on this file (the indexes are 33 bytes long): 3 Allegis (0)- LIST-INDEX APOPEN,HISTORY Alternate Key Index Details for File APOPEN,HISTORY Page 1 File.. APOPEN,HISTORY Alternate key length.. 45 Node/Block size... 4K OV blocks. 1 (0 in use, 0 overflowed) Indices... 1 (0 D-type) Index updates. Enabled, No updates pending Index-Name.. F-type K-type Built Empties Dups In-DICT S/M F-no/VF-expr INDEX_1.HISTORY V Txt Yes Yes Yes Yes S OCONV( TRANS( A PCHECKS, CHECK_ ID, 3, X ), 'M R%5' ) ; OCONV( TRANS( APCHECKS , CHECK_ID, 4, X ), 'MR%7' ) ; OCONV( *OCONV( @ID, 'G*1' )*, 'MR%5' ) : YRMO_ PD : @2 : OCONV( CLIENTNO, 'MR%5 ' ) : @1 : OCONV ( INVDATE, 'MR%5 ' ) Alternate Key Index Details for File APOPEN,HISTORY Page 2 File.. APOPEN,HISTORY Alternate key length.. 45 Node/Block size... 4K OV blocks. 1 (0 in use, 0 overflowed) Indices... 1 (0 D-type) Index updates. Enabled, No updates pending Index-Name.. F-type K-type Built Empties Dups In-DICT S/M F-no/VF-expr Does anyone know what's happening here and why I'm getting a permissions error? Things I didn't try; reload Windows, reinstall UniData, deleting and re-creating the data file. Thanks, Bill Haskett ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniBasic Question
I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:14 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Unless you know the keys to the records you're selecting, even the EXECUTE SELECT ... is going to have to read each record, how else would it know which records to throw out? SELECT is definitely faster than EXECUTE SELECT... and I try and use it first. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniBasic Question
I think we are bike-shedding this now :) I seem to recall that if the indexed field is _before_ the non indexed field, its benefit is not lost. I have not looked close at that in a long time. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com wrote: Add a second selection criteria and the benefit of the index is washed out. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question True on UV, too. Compare output of these using EXPLAIN keyword: LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = soemthing EXPLAIN LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = soemthing EXPLAIN NO.INDEX Or forget EXPLAIN, but do it with a large file and notice the speed differnce. On 10/25/2011 4:29 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. Are you saying that when there is an index, the system does not need to read the record at all? It just gets the SELECT list from the index? Is this only true in Unidata? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniBasic Question
But you are potentially reducing your input set for the 2nd criteria by a large margin correct? I've never considered alt key + non-indexed usage to create disk thrash. When you select on an alternate key index, you are reading the file, but (in Udt at least) an X_myfile binary file. So you are doing a direct read for the matching keys. It has no knowledge of the file layout. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Yes yes and no. If you execute a SSELECT on an indexed field, and don't specify NO.INDEX and do NOT refer at all to any other fields in the file, then index does NOT read the record to see if it even actually exists. It just retrieves the list of keys from the index. If you specific a SSELECT on an indexed field and ALSO specify some other field criteria, then the select is *supposed* to use the index field FIRST to retrieve the list of keys and ONLY THEN read each record to see whether it matches the other criteria. So the first pass if you will should be lightning fast, but then IF your other criteria makes it traverse the majority of the file you are in for big Trouble with a T that rhymes with P that stands for Pool. The reason you are in for trouble in this last case, is that traversing the majority of the file causes Disk Thrashing which is bad very bad very very bad. It causes this because you are forcing the system to reference the records out-of-disk-order. So it's jumping, jumping, jumping all over the disk in a helter skelter summer swelter. You want to avoid that. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniBasic Question
Consider a sparse file. I have seen where a execute select is faster so I counter your AlwaysFaster claim. Like the previous poster said, it will always be fastest to start, but not always first to complete. On Oct 25, 2011 7:00 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote: On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote: I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. SELECT *is* faster. Because it does far less work! EXECUTE SELECT needs to read the entire file to create a select list. SELECT merely reads group 0 to create a partial select list, then when it's exhausted goes on to group 1 and so on and so on. Which is BEST depends on what you want. Which is FASTER is always SELECT. (Oh - and while the poster didn't get it quite right, READNEXT is fast on UV, because while it doesn't pull the record into your program, because the key and data are stored together the mere act of accessing the key will cache the data at the same time). Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniBasic Question
I reread my post and meant no disrespect Wols. I shouldnt post replies without considering twice. On Oct 25, 2011 7:00 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote: On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote: I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. SELECT *is* faster. Because it does far less work! EXECUTE SELECT needs to read the entire file to create a select list. SELECT merely reads group 0 to create a partial select list, then when it's exhausted goes on to group 1 and so on and so on. Which is BEST depends on what you want. Which is FASTER is always SELECT. (Oh - and while the poster didn't get it quite right, READNEXT is fast on UV, because while it doesn't pull the record into your program, because the key and data are stored together the mere act of accessing the key will cache the data at the same time). Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions
I wish when we got our new machine we used jfs2. Take a look at that if you have not procured the machine yet. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com wrote: AIX handles memory in a very different manner than HP/UX. While you'll have less to deal with, the parameters you do need to tune are different, and in a few crucial instances, the default is a bad choice for a U2 installation. You'll also see that AIX uses ALL of its available memory to cache files; folks are often alarmed to see only a few Mb of RAM free. I hope you're looking at the new Power Blades (JS70x) in the Blade H center under PowerVM: sweee---eee---eet. From: bl...@shaklee.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:52:45 -0700 Subject: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions Hi All, We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be done to make that happen? Do we need to recompile our source code? Are there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's? Is this an easy or difficult? Thanks, Bruce Lunt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?
LLOCKS is a SystemBuilder screen to display LIST.READU data. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: You probably already thought of this... Try looking in the bin/udt directory or wherever Unidata is installed. For example on Universe 10.3 on AIX 5.3 cd /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv ls -la ..Sample.. -rwxr-x--x 1 root staff 2034555 Aug 26 2009 plock_set lrwxrwxrwx 1 root system 10 May 27 2009 port.status - list_readu -rwxr-x--x 1 root staff 2052083 Aug 26 2009 port_sql -rwxr-x--x 1 root staff 2036007 Aug 26 2009 portuv You can use sudo for commands that need Admin privileges if you don't want to execute them as root. As root, run: visudo My initial thoughts... On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote: Are there AIX equivalent commands for the following Unidata TCL commands: PORT.STATUS LIST.READU LIST.QUEUE LLOCKS Also, is there any AIX command that will show that a particular telnet session is no longer active (i.e. user X'd out incorrectly or network dropped them)? -- -Kevin http://www.PrecisOnline.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?
Umm, PORT.STATUS /usr/bin/ps On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote: ps would be PORT.STATUS. Try man ps for the billions of options. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SkyBot Scheduler. Was: Job scheduling in UniVerse
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Charles Stevenson stevenson.c...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone used SkyBot Scheduler? It's a commercial non-MV-based product we're considering for non-UV reasons. If we go that route, I will also schedule UV jobs under it, too, scripting as for cron or windows scheduler as others have written. I have not used that one, but I have daydreamed about cutting over to TaskForest. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Chris Austin cjausti...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC driver that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error states: 'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows you're running. Check your computers system information to see whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program' Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers? Thanks, Chris ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users We just had a thread run through here that addresses this. It may have been my prelude user group ML, anyways. IIRC, there is a 32bit odbc manager that ships with win7 64bit. You have to use it to manage the driver. Here is a thread that discusses this point. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproui/thread/0176b9d1-eef5-4c1c-ab3d-4b481ad6761a ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Lock Status
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: LIST.READU will tell you what program owns the lock (as long as the program is still running). The UNO column is the UniData Number, which will relate to a user/process in the PORT.STATUS (no options) command's list. Aren't the locks released when the program stops? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Lock Status
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Dave Davis dda...@harriscomputer.com wrote: It's a shame there isn't a file trigger operation on locking reads, just updates and deletes. That way you could just add it to the file in question. The update trigger might be useful. Most ppl would lock the record before updating it. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Lock Status
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote: We do suspect it is from a custom BASIC subroutine, recently installed. So knowing the file we're looking back through any code that was compiled within the past 2 weeks and manually searching for READU's that don't WRITE, DELETE, or RELEASE. Sure would be nice if the lock table would report the line of code that set the lock. Just sayin'. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users That does seem like it would be a trivial and cool addition. Maybe just on an option switch. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
I am really confused. If it uses UniObjects, there should be very little need for the ODBC driver and CONVERT.SQL. Can we get a clarification on this? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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That is cool. Wish we could have done a beta and help shake some of these out. Thank you Rocket for continuing to push the platform. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:36 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a comparison chart of DataVu vs. ODBC? I am planning on investigating both for reporting purposes, but, I was just curious if there was anything out there that listed the pros and cons of both in a nice little table. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Free as in free beer on the house. Just install and run. There is no need to authorize. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is this a licensed product? Or does it come with the U2 licenses we have purchased? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu Query tool (v2.0.1) We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and results. You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of clicks. Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running with U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page. Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate' page. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Giving it a try now. TY guys. DV Report is a sep licensed product? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: For example: If my goal was to teach a fairly savvy computer user to get data out of U2 into, lets say Excel... without the user coming to ask me to write some query for them... What would be the pros/cons of doing the ODBC way, vs. doing it the DataVu way? Forgive my ignorance... Does that make sense? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: I'm not entirely sure on what you want here? DataVu (the free Query and paid Report Dashboard products) are querying, reporting and dashboard tools whereas ODBC is just an interface. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:36 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is there a comparison chart of DataVu vs. ODBC? I am planning on investigating both for reporting purposes, but, I was just curious if there was anything out there that listed the pros and cons of both in a nice little table. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Free as in free beer on the house. Just install and run. There is no need to authorize. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is this a licensed product? Or does it come with the U2 licenses we have purchased? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu Query tool (v2.0.1) We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and results. You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of clicks. Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running with U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page. Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate' page. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The odbc way requires you to use VSG to normalize your U2 data. DataVue does not. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Can you let me know which page so I can address it? I just successfully started downloading, so I'm not sure where to look. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:43 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] We’re sorry, but that page doesn’t exist… Ha! So Rocket is looking to hire a website developer? -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 9:31 am Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Free as in free beer on the house. Just install and run. There is no need to authorize. Regards, an -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of John Thompson ent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM o: U2 Users List ubject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is this a licensed product? Or does it come with the U2 licenses we have urchased? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu Query tool (v2.0.1) We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and results. You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of clicks. Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running with U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page. Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate' page. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- ohn Thompson __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The rocket page on the front page has an image for DataVue2.0 and that leads to a broken link ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Give us the direct link to the download page -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 9:46 am Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Can you let me know which page so I can address it? I just successfully started downloading, so I'm not sure where to look. Thanks, an -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:43 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] We’re sorry, but that page doesn’t exist… Ha! So Rocket is looking to hire a website developer? -Original Message- rom: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 9:31 am ubject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] ree as in free beer on the house. ust install and run. There is no need to authorize. egards, n Original Message- om: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] Behalf Of John Thompson nt: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM : U2 Users List bject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] s this a licensed product? Or does it come with the U2 licenses we have rchased? n Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu Query tool (v2.0.1) We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and results. You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of clicks. Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to connect to your 2 data so you can quickly get up and running with U2 DataVu Query. You can ownload this from our downloads page. Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate' page. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - hn Thompson _ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://screencast.com/t/iCP0GRu8iCP4 Here is where the error is Dan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote: Steve: Really? I was looking at DataVu for UniData and I understood that I did need to SQL'ize all my data. So, if I hosted a number of accounts I'd have to go through the entire process of figuring how to duplicate the accounts for SQL file access, keep them all straight, and fight with all that this entails. Are you sure I misunderstood this? Thanks, Bill Haskett - Original Message - *From:* slestak...@gmail.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/2/2011 9:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, John Thompsonjthompson...@gmail.com wrote: For example: If my goal was to teach a fairly savvy computer user to get data out of U2 into, lets say Excel... without the user coming to ask me to write some query for them... What would be the pros/cons of doing the ODBC way, vs. doing it the DataVu way? Forgive my ignorance... Does that make sense? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Daniel McGrathdmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: I'm not entirely sure on what you want here? DataVu (the free Query and paid Report Dashboard products) are querying, reporting and dashboard tools whereas ODBC is just an interface. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:36 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is there a comparison chart of DataVu vs. ODBC? I am planning on investigating both for reporting purposes, but, I was just curious if there was anything out there that listed the pros and cons of both in a nice little table. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Free as in free beer on the house. Just install and run. There is no need to authorize. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Is this a licensed product? Or does it come with the U2 licenses we have purchased? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should let you all know we have just released a new version of the free DataVu Query tool (v2.0.1) We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and results. You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple of clicks. Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running with U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page. Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the 'Accelerate' page. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager Rocket Software Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The odbc way requires you to use VSG to normalize your U2 data. DataVue does not. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users On this page http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/u2/products/datavu/offer it states No VSG Schemas for UniData or HS.ADMIN setup for UniVerse are required to access your U2 data. Click here to download this free tool together with its example database to get started using U2 DataVu Query. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
Bill, I think you are correct. I was hoping and praying for straight UoJ connection to data, not shoehorned SQL. Steve ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: If you can think of any instructions that made it hard to work, instructions that are missing or anything else that will make it easier for first time users (eg, Gotcha's that might affect some people we have missed), let us know. The best way for us to make it better is if people give us some constructive feedback (u2as...@rs.com) to work with :) As a side note, the DataVu 2.0 link on the front page now works (thanks Will Steve) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:36 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] After 45 minutes of trying different things I finally got to step 1. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 1:25 pm Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Just to clarify, this is only an issue for UniData (because by default it denies QL access, until you update the privileges). In UniVerse it is as simple as ointing it to your host, typing in your credentials and selecting the account. In fact, I just did it on my machine with the SBDEMO account in under 5 minutes. It is also correct this is a benefit of the Rocket Acquisition. You will find hat going forward will be able to increasingly leverage the other RD assets of he rest of Rocket to bring new products and tighter integrations to the MV orld then we have previously. Regards, an -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Steve Romanow ent: Friday, September 02, 2011 12:42 PM o: U2 Users List ubject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad] Bill, I think you are correct. I was hoping and praying for straight UoJ connection o data, not shoehorned SQL. Steve __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users I am having trouble with licensing. I had 1.0 installed previously (uninstalled) but when I launch 2.0, i get a dialog stating there is a problem and it closes DataVue. I do not get a chance to get to Manage License. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
This is what I get. I cannot access ApplicationData on my machine, which bothers me. meh. win7. http://screencast.com/t/c3QI4gs6 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Glenn just upgrading from parchment to paper will save the lives of many goats and you won't need to spend all those hours scraping the skins to the right thinness, before you can use it. I find also that quills have a nasty tendency to drip Is that line of code X = 45? or does it say No sex after 45? The difference could be staggering. omg, only 3 years left o.0 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Buffington, Wyatt wgbuffing...@hydro.mb.ca wrote: Can anyone suggest a good editor for 64 bit OS systems that allows people to edit UniBasic programs? I was using HyperEdit by Sunergos Software for many years but I have upgraded my laptop and it will not run. Must have color coded of reserved words if at all possible. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Wyatt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Any of the latest batch of programmer editors can hilight unibasic code for you. I am using vim on 64bit win7 with unibasic.vim plugin. UltraEdit is awesome. I used it for a few years, and can get you a unibasic syntax file. If you dont want to spend any money, I _think Notepad++ has syntax highlighting. http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: It should be remarked that this Rocket download also requires Eclipse to be loaded. It's an enormousely huge and fat monster for such a simple task. here we go again :) Our bimonthly eclipse discussion ;D ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: BDT = 280 Megabytes Really? To highlight code? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users its the Eclipse factor ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Why Pick Eclipse?
Someone on G+ had a post that summed up some of the angst I have
regarding Eclipse. I think its the overbearing framework followed by
thin plugins.
http://nfarina.com/post/8239634061/ios-to-android
Eclipse has some strong points, but I think some of the apps (plugins)
I have tried had less functionality that free-standing competing apps.
Some examples:
Editor - pydev, bdt, eclim, {insert other editing widget for eclipse here} vs
Any product by JetBrains, Emacs, VIM, Textmate, heck UltraEdit on win32.
For pure editing, all of these competitors have tons of features they
bring to the table.
The major thing BDT and others bring to the table are using u2 rpc and
svn. Most of the editors I list also have a network layer, or just
using plain Samba on your dir file full of u2 src code. There are
also dozens of ways to use git, svn, hg, etc.
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Re: [U2] Why Pick Eclipse?
Funny story about auto-correct. Last week my team had to think I was drinking on the job or otherwise incapacitated with the gibberish I was emailing from my phone without proofing acceptably because of SwiftKeyX auto correction. bah. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick Eclipse?
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk wrote: Aptana is now owned by Appcelerator as part of their Titanium platform. If you're wanting to use that for Droid work email me off-list: I got so fed up trying to get Titanium and Android to play nicely (and their forums are full of people with the same problems) that one I got it all working I started writing a guide to getting up and running specifically for Droid developers so save some pain. Brian Sent from my ASUS Eee Pad Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com wrote: Steve: I think you skimmed the article see: The upside is, after acclimating to Eclipse, you’ll enjoy some seriously amazing, productivity-boosting code completion, refactoring, and automatic fixing. It’ll basically write your code for you. I think the real problem is that we expect Eclipse to be light weight like ED/AE, vi, EMACS, Notepad, or whatever. Well it is an full IDE and with it comes incredible power. The cost is nominal is today's world where I'm using a Windows 7 box with 8 gb of memory and 2 250 gb of hard disk space workstation. However, my Java programmer has our Eclipse running on his NetBook with 1 gb of memory he paid under $300.00 for it. I would use your editor before BDT. I have that functionality already available to me in vim so I am not in the market for a U2 editor. I am starting to dabble in droid development so i am on the hunt for that development stack. Acclimating to raw eclipse may take me a while, but it is _the supported_ stack endorsed by google. A friend made me aware of Aptana, which from their description is eclipse with focus which from first impressions looks very palatable. Every editor I mentioned can be configured with code completion. Auto-fixing and write my code for me? no thanks. Wear out my backspace enough as it is with autocorrect on my droid and in msft office. I do wish you the best of luck and have no fault with charging for software. Just doing a reality check with some of that devs in the list have not seen some of the other offerings out there. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Cool, thank you Brian. My friend Ben worked out a similar list that he emailed me. We should consolidate this somewhere. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com wrote: From: Steve Romanow When i look at an eclipse application I see 80% ui that is not relevant to the task at hand. I agree that it and most every app implemented with it are trash. I agree with the first sentence that Eclipse is bloated, but most every app implemented with it are trash ?? That's unreasonable, as the IDE doesn't relate to the skills of the developer, nor the end-product, unless the IDE inherently precludes specific language/framework features from being used. Miscellaneous: Eclipse is now the recommended platform for Android apps and thus has attracted a new following. Personally I use NetBeans for both Java and PHP simply because it's convenient (and VS for .NET). It would be nice if we had more options for MV-oriented development using mainstream tools. There aren't enough companies building in such integration, and not enough adoption in this market to make it worth it for more companies to step up to the challenge. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users That was a trollish unreasonable statement. I apologize. I think a more appropriate statement would be: overwhelmed by eclipses gargantuan size, and underwhelmed by the applications presented. Does it bother anyone that all of the Rocket provided eclipse apps come with their own static copy of eclipse? I mean the editor in BDT, is it that great of an editor, besides being graphical and has syntax hilighting? Real IDE's are necessary for some projects like java and (also java, Droid) development since it helps with packaging and whatnot. That really doesnt seem necessary for an mv app. I'll stick to my old school vim, mercurial, and ssh. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
Neat. They have a community edition too. Their charm product has a good rep. On Jul 15, 2011 4:24 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] python
I am seriously interested in language bindings as well. Specifically serverside. On Jul 14, 2011 11:08 AM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Not the snake - the language ;) At u2u two (or was it 3) years ago a guy from ibm demo'ed some gci code he did so you could call any python code from your databasic. He said if there was interest it could be incorporated into u2, and said at the least he could release the gci code he did - does anyone have any more on this - i could do with something like this. Thanks Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Shards
Yeah. We had good experience using that functionality at a prior shop. Wish they would come to Unidata. On Jul 14, 2011 11:10 AM, Jerry Banker jpb-u...@hotmail.com wrote: Strange I was reading this article on sharding ( http://technoroy.blogspot.com/2008/07/shard-database-design.html) and I starting thinking as I read. We can do this in UniBasic using UniVerse and distributed files, what's the big deal. Granted I may not be as up on this as some of the newbees but I have a few years of decyphering technical newspeak and it looks like some of the things that a shard is, is already being done in U2. Distributed files, where you can set up tables to be accessed separately or together, has been around since PI days. Like data, being stored together with a single read and single write is a mainstay of any of the Pick databases. Jerry ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
Logging, unittesting, On Jul 14, 2011 10:12 AM, Rob Sobers rsob...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, and my point is that in the U2/UniBasic ecosystem, those collections of subroutines are not readily available anywhere. What if you want to use a web service that emits JSON? Is it going to take you 3 lines of code and 5 minutes to write a JSON parser? And what about serialization, compression, PDF generation? These things are useful and not trivial to write and maintain. And what language features have been added to UniBasic lately? I can't think of any. No objects, no regular expressions, no lambdas, etc. -Rob On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: So what are libraries? They are nothing but a collection of subroutines that somebody else has written. And what do you do if you can't find a function in your library that does exactly what you need? You write your own, right? And by the time you have found the right function in your library you could have written the 3 lines of code in Basic that do the same thing already. I write Databasic code every day and have done so for over 20 years and hardly ever have use for functions, because if I needed them I would have written my own library by. Mecki On 14/07/2011 02:25, Rob Sobers wrote: I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules engine. U2 Basic is such a limited language. It barely has functions, and you have to home brew almost everything. Microsoft's T-SQL stored procedures are just as horrible to write as U2 Basic programs. As Jeff Atwood put it -- Stored procedures should be considered database assembly language. [1] Why do you think Microsoft now allows you to call CLR code from stored procedures? Because it's so much more efficient to work with the data (i.e., enforce the business rules) in a modern language like C# that has *actual libraries* for doing useful things. I agree that business rules shouldn't be on the client -- but who says they have to be in the database? Look at the ever-so-popular MVC architecture. The models (i.e., the code that works with the database and enforces all of the business rules) are isolated from the views (i.e., the client/presentation code) entirely. -Rob [1]: http://www.codinghorror.com/**blog/2004/10/who-needs-stored-** procedures-anyways.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2004/10/who-needs-stored-procedures-anyways.html On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Kingprecisonl...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for what David said. Yes, there's the limitation that BASIC is the only native supported language (not factoring external connectors), but as a language native to the environment, this BASIC is really pretty rich by comparison to the stored procedure languages of other DBs. __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] JSON
Att 4 can be encoded on its own and stored within the parent Jon record. I
am on my phone so pls don't make me key data structures. B-)
On Jul 14, 2011 5:32 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
If I have the following dynamic array: TEST
1this
2is
3a
4mv ] test
field 1 = part1
field2 = part2
field3 = part3
field4 = part4
I could make XML as
TEST
part1this/part1
part2is/part2
part3a/part3
part4 vm=1mv/part4
part4 vm=2test/part4
/TEST
I'm confused on how this serializes to JSON? Of course I've only been
working with it for a few hours...
{TEST : {
part1 : this,
part2 : is,
part3 : a,
==this is where I can't figure out how to setup part4?
}}
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Re: [U2] JSON
Doh. Autocorrect got me. I meant json record. Take a look at json.org That XML example is but one may to model that record. On Jul 14, 2011 5:36 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
When i look at an eclipse application I see 80% ui that is not relevant to the task at hand. I agree that it and most every app implemented with it are trash. On Jul 14, 2011 6:11 PM, Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian: Microsoft now has a plug-in for Eclipse see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg413285.aspx. Eclipse just released version 3.7 around June 22nd and they have had a million plus downloads. They released 62 projects with over 46 million lines of code see http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20110622indigo.php. Eclipse is one of the premier IDE's out in the world. Do want to teach people to use ED/AE to create files, edit dictionaries, and edit code all in that pretty wrapper called Telnet? Or do you want to show them a MS based editor that only does that? Sorry, your free product does not cut the mustard here. We need to teach the young people coming into U2 world to use the finest tool that allows continuous compiling, templates, outlines, bookmarks, version control, copying and pasting data, listing files, and searching all within a single IDE to name just a few functions. Whether the Eclipse IDE is from U2logic or Rocket Software there is no other tools on the market that can compare feature to feature. We know you can do all of the above with wrappers, amazing VOC items, and scripts, but we must have time warped back to 1990's because we don't really need to explain these to a newbie. Those newbie's think we are just a bunch of old men and old women. We know we are the best so lets look like with our state of the art tools. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com Version control for the rest of us using Eclipse And get rid of Eclipse. It's horrible. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why Pick Eclipse ?
Not a fan of any of them. Slow, clunky. BDT, are you kidding. I'll use edlin first. On Jul 14, 2011 6:24 PM, Bill Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com wrote: When looking at an Eclipse app, it might be a good idea to put sunglasses on first... maybe some special optical apparatus. There is... O Rocket's BDT O u2Logic's xLR8 O Adobe Flex Builder O Adobe ColdFusion Builder 2 O Hundreds of Others Even a blind man knows when the sun is shinin. --B -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ? When i look at an eclipse application I see 80% ui that is not relevant to the task at hand. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Rocks
I have been mildly trolling. I'll stop. On Jul 14, 2011 7:15 PM, Rob Sobers rsob...@gmail.com wrote: In fairness, I don't think anyone is trolling. I think it's healthy to question the technical merits of the platforms you use and compare them to alternatives. A community that shouts go away trolls! we like it here! whenever someone asks an uneasy question is probably one I don't belong in. I think we are asking fair, on-topic questions about the technology, its future, and its usefulness compared to other systems that have entered the market. No one is belittling anyone else for using U2 or being a UniBasic developer. I've used the technology for many years. I'm just not going to be content with a platform that stagnates. When I'm unhappy, I speak up. :-) -Rob On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote: You were given many reasons and dismissed them all with nothing more than a shrug. Apparently, now you believe you've made your point. Good for you. Amazing as it may sound, on a list full of people who are U2 developers you're going to find people who use U2 because we're experts in it, and to us it's as easy as pie to develop in this environment. We use it with various front end tools to make it pretty like any other database environment. We also use a variety of other open source and proprietary tools when the situation calls for it. And now I believe I'll stop feeding the troll and go have some more coffee. Holt, Jake wrote: U2 has an easy learning curve ..? What? MV is a completely foreign concept to most people and I'd wager a large number of DBAs. There is no conceivable way that installing U2, setting up a database, developing an application and presenting it using a technology that's not a dinosaur can be considering easy in comparison to the majority of other databases out there. If you're happy with the current MV market then that's fine, but my original intention in asking the question was to find out if there was really any conceivable reason that NEW users would adopt U2 over another option. If people are happy to just watch it bleed and die that's fine, but if you want the market to grow you're going to have to address some of the issues already brought up. Issues that many other databases addressed a decade ago. Like I said initially, I like U2, I just have no conceivable reason to use it outside our ERP system when I have a number of other options available that are, frankly, better. -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:30 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Rocks Rob: This is the U2 list. The developers on this list... like, live, and breathe U2. U2 is a legacy database for in which, over decades, companies have invested in mega-mountains of code. I find it galling when newbies so often expect companies to instantly bail on their colossal stake. Is U2 ever going to be cloud-based? Maybe... maybe not. Although U2 is the UniVersal choice... for fresh new projects, designers may have good reasons to opt for a rival technologies. For add-on projects, U2 has an easy learning curve. I hope that this explanation sheds some new light. --Bill -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ? I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules engine. ... -Rob __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- --**--** Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA jschasny at gmail dot com --**--** __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article
Shutterfly also has moved to mongo in production. On Jul 13, 2011 1:56 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance, because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat u2. Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well. However i am also a u2 fanboy for many many reasons. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server? Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more programming environments, over U2? They offer the same schema flexibility and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more. MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding, replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on. And it's FREE! :-) I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2. Maybe I will. I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2 killer. I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it. -Rob On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote: It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was 10 years ago. The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite relational environment. Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less overall computing power to support X number of users for a given application due to more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required. You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most significant reason to use U2. Holt, Jake wrote: I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive than oracle =D. And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of many FREE databases, so again, why pick U2? -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org ] On Behalf Of Israel, John R. Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article You may have answered your own question. Why do YOU like it? It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and a lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc). John Israel Senior Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 1125 Byers Road Miamisburg, OH 45342 -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org ] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:26 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question: Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal preference? Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a *far* cheaper) database isn't a better fit? Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there would be a market Rocket could focus on ? __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- --**--** Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA jschasny at gmail dot com --**--** __**_ U2-Users mailing list
Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article
It saves to disk, and iirc you can specify how many replicants it is written to to be considered written. You may be confusing it with memcached or redis, but even they have persistence. On Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, Bill Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com wrote: Is Mongo a persistent database? That is, does Mongo save the data to disk, or just RAM? If it is RAM, then that is ok for tweets between high school chicks... but not so good for bank accounts. --Bill -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance, because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat u2. Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well. However i am also a u2 fanboy for many many reasons. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse
An interesting stat about openbravo is how many devs they have on staff. I looked at them a few years ago and it was huge. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Git and U2
I use bitbucket for that. On Jun 30, 2011 9:48 AM, Rob Sobers rsob...@gmail.com wrote: Same here. I do all my work on the command line, too. While Kiln has a nice web UI for browsing code, searching code, organizing repos, and viewing diffs, you can simply use it as a secure cloud-based host for your code. Think Dropbox for your code. It's nice to be able to be on any remote server with internet access and Mercurial installed and hg clone my dotfiles or utiliity scripts from Kiln. -Rob On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM, slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Thx. I usually just enjoy the command line interface hg. Not even that comfortable in Tortoise. I do so much work on remote servers, I dont want to depend on a graphical tool. __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
I have not used it, but wish I had time to tinker with it. Task Forest looks interesting. http://www.taskforest.com/ It is open src, but commercial support is available. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] Obtaining a file creation date and time without locking it
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Sammartino, Richard
rsamm...@philasd.org wrote:
Someone posted a program to do this a couple of years ago. I can post my
version if needed.
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Subject: [U2] [UV] Obtaining a file creation date and time without locking it
Hello,
Currently I have code that does something like this:
EQU TM.LIMIT TO 3 ;* File useable if created less than TM.LIMIT seconds ago.
OPENSEQ PATH.HOUSE:ipcs.txt TO F.IPCS ELSE RETURN
STATUS STAT FROM F.IPCS THEN
CLOSESEQ F.IPCS
IPCS.TM = STAT15
IPCS.DT = STAT16
SEC.PASSED = (DATE() - IPCS.DT) * 86400
SEC.PASSED += (TIME() - IPCS.TM)
IF SEC.PASSED TM.LIMIT THEN RETURN ;* Too old can't use it
END
The problem with this approach, is that in order to query the file's internal
date and time, I have to do an OPENSEQ which locks the file. This means that
another process that may need to perform the same check has to wait for the
lock
to be released.
Any way to open the file in a ReadOnly mode in UV so that It won't get locked
?
Jacques
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I would just do an EXECUTE to a scripting language and parse the results.
An ls -l with some awk will make quick work of it.
Here is a thread that describes ways to do it in python.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/237079/how-to-get-file-creation-modification-date-times-in-python
PCPERFORM \python -c import os; print os.stat('test.xml').st_mtime\
CAPTURING OUTPUT will come back with the modification time in epoch
time.
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Re: [U2] ED Manuals
I think the manual set from Rocket is freely available. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Ron Hutchings ron_hutchi...@hotmail.com wrote: Are there versions of the manuals in the U2 archives? I thought I had the archives bookmarked but I can't find them. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
I would love to have a correct and quick inventory inquiry for mobile targets. Maybe even integrated with the zebra crossing barcoding libs on droid. Droid is relatively open compared to the other handsets and os's. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Dan McGrath dmc...@imb.com.au wrote: Sorry, that should have been I'm sure a lot of people as opposed to I'm a lot of people I can assure everyone, I am just a single person. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan McGrath Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 2:36 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework Good points there David, which I notice a lot of people don't consider when dismissing the benefits of an app vs web. Another point is the better offline capabilities of a native app. I'm a lot of people on Vodafone over here in Australia (myself include) can understand the importance of this. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 2:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework Hi George I use a Windows phone 7. With a web page there is a cost of time for downloading a web page and a performance issue with screen loading. With an app, I conform to the user interface of the phone which are more intuitive to a phone user. The app loads quicker and runs quicker. However if you have users using android, blackberry, iphone, etc then you need to create a separate app for each phone. With the new phones you need to load the app from the marketplace which is difficult for an enterprise application. Hence the decision to use an app vs web is related to performance and intuitive interface vs portable and easier to load. Remember also that most phones have no virus protection and are a potential risk area for Trojans and viruses for web interfaces. An app is a bit more secure. Again there are other features I can use on the phone such as sending a spreadsheet of KPIs to the phone rather than having an application to access KPIs. There are just too many ways to skin a cat. David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ### The information transmitted in this message and attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files with the permission of IMB. ### ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ### The information transmitted in this message and attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only
Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
An Order Log Inquiry would be neat as well. None of these 2 ideas require specific u2 bindings. Just need an rpc service to return json. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: I would love to have a correct and quick inventory inquiry for mobile targets. Maybe even integrated with the zebra crossing barcoding libs on droid. Droid is relatively open compared to the other handsets and os's. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Dan McGrath dmc...@imb.com.au wrote: Sorry, that should have been I'm sure a lot of people as opposed to I'm a lot of people I can assure everyone, I am just a single person. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan McGrath Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 2:36 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework Good points there David, which I notice a lot of people don't consider when dismissing the benefits of an app vs web. Another point is the better offline capabilities of a native app. I'm a lot of people on Vodafone over here in Australia (myself include) can understand the importance of this. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 2:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework Hi George I use a Windows phone 7. With a web page there is a cost of time for downloading a web page and a performance issue with screen loading. With an app, I conform to the user interface of the phone which are more intuitive to a phone user. The app loads quicker and runs quicker. However if you have users using android, blackberry, iphone, etc then you need to create a separate app for each phone. With the new phones you need to load the app from the marketplace which is difficult for an enterprise application. Hence the decision to use an app vs web is related to performance and intuitive interface vs portable and easier to load. Remember also that most phones have no virus protection and are a potential risk area for Trojans and viruses for web interfaces. An app is a bit more secure. Again there are other features I can use on the phone such as sending a spreadsheet of KPIs to the phone rather than having an application to access KPIs. There are just too many ways to skin a cat. David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ### The information transmitted in this message and attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files with the permission of IMB. ### ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ### The information transmitted in this message and attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information
Re: [U2] Uniobjects on Linux
You set IsUnidata to True, was that intentional? On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Jonathan Leckie jonathan.lec...@blairswindows.co.uk wrote: Any thoughts as to what to check to fix this, I used to be able to connect from the P.C. but not now, I can connect using UniAdmin but not other programmes, the following vbs code gives error 39207 when trying to connect : Dim UV If DoConnection() = False Then Msgbox Could not connect Else Msgbox Connected to server ReadFromVOC ShowTTY DoSelect End If Function DoConnection() Dim HostName Dim UserName Dim AccountPath Dim Password '= ' Set the host name, user name and account path to your system ' Set IsUniData to True or False ' NOTE That the password is echoed back as plain text. '= HostName = UserName = AccountPath = Password = InputBox(Password for UserName on HostName) IsUniData = True If CreateSession() = False Then Msgbox Could not create session DoConnection = False Exit Function End If UV.HostName = HostName UV.UserName = UserName UV.AccountPath = AccountPath UV.Password = Password If IsUniData Then UV.DatabaseType = 2 'Else 'UV.DatabaseType = 1 End If UV.Connect If UV.Error False Then Msgbox Error returned from connect = UV.Error DoConnection = False Exit Function Else DoConnection = True End If End Function Function CreateSession() On Error Resume Next Err = False CreateSession = True ' Msgbox Trying UniObjects Unioaif name Set UV = CreateObject(UniObjects.UnioaifCtrl.1) If (Err False) Or (UV Is Nothing) Then ' Msgbox Trying UniObjects name Err = False Set UV = CreateObjects(uniobjects.session.1) If (Err False) Or (UV Is Nothing) Then ' Msgbox Trying uv Objects name Err = False Set UV = CreateObject(universe.session.1) If (Err False) Or (UV Is Nothing) Then CreateSession = False End If End If End If End Function Sub DoSelect uv.Command.Text = SELECT VOC uv.Command.Exec Msgbox uv.GetAtVariable(8) End Sub Sub ReadFromVOC Dim VOC Set VOC = uv.OpenFile(VOC) VOC.RecordId = LIST VOC.Read Msgbox VOC.Record End Sub Sub ShowTty uv.Command.Text = WHO uv.Command.Exec Msgbox uv.Command.Response End SUb RegardsJonathan Leckie ** * This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content * and is believed to be clean. * * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and * intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they * are addressed. * * If you have received this email in error please notify us at Blairs, * details can be found on our website http://www.blairswindows.co.uk * * Name Registered Office: * * Blairs Windows Limited * Registered office : 9 Baker Street, Greenock, PA15 4TU * Company No: SC393935, V.A.T. registration No: 108729111 ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Uniobjects - What Is It?
Uniobjects is a C module that has been wrapped and packaged for java, vb, and .NET. PickWiki has several examples, as well as the rocket software docs. If you upgrade to the new WebDE you will be using uniobjects for communication (really deep down.) On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Israel, John R. johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote: I have been in the PICK world for decades and have worked with several interfaces. Green screen, SB, BlackSmith and Redback/web are my biggest areas of expertise. I have simply never worked with anything else because these are the tools at the places I have worked. I am embarrassed to ask, but need to do so. What are UniObjects? Other than what I mentioned above, what other technologies are out there are rock solid? Where can I go to get an get your feet wet intro? If our business is doing fine without them, why would I want to use them? What can I do with them? We are a SB Redback/web shop. What benefit would there be to my company to have me learn these other technologies? I am not saying that we don't want any of these technologies, but if we don't even know what it is or are aware of what it can do, we will never look to it for a solution. I understand that this is a VERY broad question, but if I don't start asking, I will never learn. John Israel Senior Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 1125 Byers Road Miamisburg, OH 45342 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Uniobjects - What Is It?
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: You have to have a windows machine as the go between. Not completely true. I have used UOJ with jython on linux to talk to U2 on AIX. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Uniobjects - What Is It?
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:27 AM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com wrote: Yes thank you Steve for correcting that. Jeff had corrected that earlier. Being new to some of this, I should have probably just kept my mouth shut so I didn't give bad information :) No please contribute. I was just chiming in. :) Dont be afraid to post. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Simple UniQuery Question
is it BY-EXP that does that? I think. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Doug Farmer dfar...@epicor.com wrote: For some reason, in all the years I have been doing this, I don't ever remember being asked this. A user asked me, if I have a UniQuery report listing a single value and a multi value, how can I repeat the single value for every multi value. For example Customer Invoice 1000 12345 12389 13101 2000 14000 14001 Would become Customer Invoice 1000 12345 1000 12389 1000 13101 2000 14000 2000 14001 I can probably do it with a I Desc subroutine, but is there any UniQuery command to do the same thing without having to create many more dictionary items? Thanks in advance, Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item
Does doubling the slash help? //PRD On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Bob Woodward bob_woodw...@k2sports.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm in Unidata 6.1 and I'm trying to find a way to use a multi character value as a delimiter for a parsing function in an I-desc dict item. I'm working with Bartender label data records and I'm trying to parse the first line on the /PRN= value, without the quote marks. FIELD only lets me use a single character. What I have so far in the DICT item is: 001: I 002: F1;FIELD(@1,'PRN=',2);FIELD(@2,'',2) 003: 004: PRN 005: 15L 006: S This works great until a capital P is in the label name before the PRN. Field is taking the first character and ignoring the RN=. I do NOT want to make a subroutine if I can avoid it. I've tried using CHANGE to swap out PRN= with a single character but apparently that's not an allowed command in the DICT items. Thanks for any help you can offer. BobW ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item
Maybe swap / for @am and you have tokenized your input. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item
Nice! On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Bob Woodward bob_woodw...@k2sports.com wrote: WINNER We can even remove the fourth statement since the third statement puts the first quoted value at the front of @3 so... F1 ; INDEX(F1,PRN=,1) ; @1[@2,LEN(@1)] ; FIELD(@3,'',2) Will work perfectly! Thank you very much! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item what about F1 ; INDEX(F1,PRN=,1) ; @1[@2,LEN(@1)] ; FIELD(@3,=,2) ; FIELD(@4,'',2) George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:59 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item That won't get me any closer. Reason is that we have differing numbers of options possible. I really need to somehow identify where PRN (or /PRN or PRN= or ...) is. Once I have that, I can use FIELD on the double quotes to get what I want. Double slashes won't work, either, as FIELD still just takes the first slash character and uses it. Here's a sample of the data line I'm working with but, again, the number of options and option commands can change. Only /PRN= is going to be guaranteed to be unique to that data position. (The sample may wrap but it's a single line.) 001: %BTW% /RUN /f=C:\BarTender\Template\Comply-FTL.btw /d=\\ganymede\DCDOWN\5214411.dat /p /PRN=BoxLabel3 /x Thanks, BobW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:46 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item hmmm. looks like I need glasses...didn't see you already answered it. Is there an = sign in any of the label data? FIELD(@1,=,2) ; FIELD(@2,''2) Don't look for PRN= , just = George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:30 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item Does CHANGE work with Unidata? CHANGE(F1,PRN,CHAR(251)) ; FIELD(@1,CHAR(251),2) ; FIELD(@2,'',2) George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Multi char delimiter in DICT item Hi folks, I'm in Unidata 6.1 and I'm trying to find a way to use a multi character value as a delimiter for a parsing function in an I-desc dict item. I'm working with Bartender label data records and I'm trying to parse the first line on the /PRN= value, without the quote marks. FIELD only lets me use a single character. What I have so far in the DICT item is: 001: I 002: F1;FIELD(@1,'PRN=',2);FIELD(@2,'',2) 003: 004: PRN 005: 15L 006: S This works great until a capital P is in the label name before the PRN. Field is taking the first character and ignoring the RN=. I do NOT want to make a subroutine if I can avoid it. I've tried using CHANGE to swap out PRN= with a single character but apparently that's not an allowed command in the DICT items. Thanks for any help you can offer. BobW ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] LED editor for Universe
Some ppl just do not like eclipse in any shape or form. On 5/6/11, fft2...@aol.com fft2...@aol.com wrote: If they don't consume a seat, doesn't that also mean that they don't lock the program while editing it? If so, how do they work well in a multi-programmer environment? Again, at least these editors mentioned before don't require a telnet session, use UniObjects to access data from U2, and they don't look like they were developed in the 80's. Oh by the way, they all do colors. -Original Message- From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 12:23 pm Subject: Re: [U2] LED editor for Universe Hi Keith: When I read your notes about another editor that is about 6,000 Basic lines long, I'm wonder if some us U2 programmers are Luddite's. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite for more information. Really, do we want to marginalize our talents by showing we can use a Basic editor that can do colors? I wrote one of these editors for Prime Information in 1980's based on what I saw using Revelation G. The source code for that editor is long since dead, thank goodness. My suggestion would be use BDT from Rocket Software, or mvDeveloper from Brian Leach Consulting, or XLr8Editor from U2Logic. The first two are FREE and the second one is $49.00 per year. Again, at least these editors mentioned before don't require a telnet session, use UniObjects to access data from U2, and they don't look like they were developed in the 80's. Oh by the way, they all do colors. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tools.html Birthplace for Eclipse based tools for U2 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] uv v ud
I was just pondering that problem as you wrote that Bill. :0) On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote: Isn't that the truth. An interesting side note is debugging. When technologists suggest we use a black-box technology approach, all this does is create massive investigation problems in a layered environment; which most are today. For not-easily-reproducible problems, logging exacerbates the problem because now where we're looking for a needle problem located somewhere in these large haystack logs. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* cwn...@comcast.net *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 5/4/2011 8:59 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] uv v ud Hi Bill, A little off-topic, but it seems that whenever you get 2 or more vendors involved in anything, they automatically start blaming the other, and nothing gets done. Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 05-04-2011 10:49 AM, Bill Haskett wrote: Symeon: We use mv.NET with uodotnet and have seen various Windows errors. Tony G. indicated that mv.NET is just a wrapper for UO.NET, at this level, and the problem is with uodotnet. We're running UD V7.1.9 in our production environment and uodotnet.dll v2.1.1.7211. I'm not a rocket scientist, :-) , but I tend to think Tony is correct. I have no idea how to correct this and neither does Tony. It seems to be a classic case of layering technology and the fingers start pointing in opposite directions! :-) Let me know if the U2 guys find out anything. Thanks, Bill - Original Message - *From:* syme...@gmail.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 5/4/2011 2:16 AM *Subject:* [U2] uv v ud Hi I seem to recall someone stating recently that uniobjects works much better with uv rather than ud, something to do with connection times etc. We are on ud71 on redhat ES 4 and do have problems with uniobjects.net with regard speed and stability. Does anyone have any experience / confirmation on this at all ?? Thanks Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Reconnect to headless udt session
Can you tandem to it? I have tandemed to rpc sessions for debugging purposes. I use gnu screen to detach and reattach to u2 session all the time. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Barak Griffis bgrif...@affinityplus.org wrote: I have heard that it is possible to reconnect to a headless udt session. For example, a udt session being run by /usr/bin/expect and cron. Has anyone here heard of that or know how it is done? Barak Griffis Assistant Systems Administrator Affinity Plus Federal Credit Union _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service (www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Reconnect to headless udt session
GNU Screen is a little terse. Very old program. If you do not know you need it, i would not use it first. Assuming you are using unix, tandem must be run as root, and you just do tandem portno. I am sure it is in the manual. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Barak Griffis bgrif...@affinityplus.org wrote: Great question;) Perhaps tandem is what I am looking for then. Do you have a quick example to show how it works? I have not used gnu screen, but it wouldn't be necessary for this, would it? Barak Griffis Assistant Systems Administrator Affinity Plus Federal Credit Union On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: Can you tandem to it? I have tandemed to rpc sessions for debugging purposes. I use gnu screen to detach and reattach to u2 session all the time. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Barak Griffis bgrif...@affinityplus.org wrote: I have heard that it is possible to reconnect to a headless udt session. For example, a udt session being run by /usr/bin/expect and cron. Has anyone here heard of that or know how it is done? Barak Griffis Assistant Systems Administrator Affinity Plus Federal Credit Union _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service (www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service (www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp). _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service (www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] How to get output-converted results from EXECUTESQL and READNEXTTUPLE?
Mecki, I think he is saying the query is coming from a non u2 system. Changing to TCL syntax just avoids the question. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniData Upgrade
We updated to 7.2.6 maybe 2 months ago and have not seen the issue you just described. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Allen E. Elwood aelw...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages. To have the entire www available with new U2 commands added by Rocket's Scientists. Other db's do not do this. mysql, db2, mssql, etc all have another product involved to serve their data to the web. And, while I'm at it, why can't we run Universe and Unidata programs with only one installed o/s? I don't understand this. How many os's do you have installed? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Allen E. Elwoodaelw...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages. To have the entire www available with new U2 commands added by Rocket's Scientists. Other db's do not do this. mysql, db2, mssql, etc all have another product involved to serve their data to the web. Many older db's do not. However, some newer ones (Cache') have figured out that what Allen is asking for is expected in this day of web 2.0 - so why not build this functionality in? For the same reason I do not buy AllInOne pc's or DVD-TV combos. I prefer a modular approach where you have some choices in the technology being used. If Rocket came back and said, The new interface is only in Erlang how many would cheer? Not many. Granted Erlang is good, and rock solid, and powers some very good software applications. DB vendors have very little reason to be in web2.0. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] html 2 xls
I use xlwt for this kind of work. Its not perfect, but does what I need. Will need a developer to setup your html - xls transform. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, shaun.fergu...@ferguson.com wrote: Anyone know of a conversion tool that will take html and produce xls (Excel spreadsheet) formatted files? We are running UniData on HPUX but could probably use a utility on a windows server if necessary. Thanks! Shaun Ferguson Applications Architect I Wolseley Group Services - 12500 Jefferson Avenue - Newport News - VA - 23602-4314 T: (757) 989-2916 - F: (757) 989-2801 - E: shaun.fergu...@wolseley.com www.wolseley.com blocked::http://www.wolseley.com/ Wolseley plc registered office Parkview 1220 Arlington Business Park Theale Nr Reading RG7 4GA United Kingdom Registration No. 29846 England ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We use a script called txt2pdf (maybe text2pdf, iirc) and it is integrated into our SB+ spool functionality. It is just another output like CSV or TXT. If you are on aix, you can setup a virtual queue that runs a script on anything printed through it. That may work as well. That is how our Optio printing is integrated. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com wrote: I think Doug means actually on the U2 server sans client pc. Doug: is spooling the job as PCL and calling ghostscript out of bounds? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse I haven't tried it, but it could probably be done with the BASIC aux-on, aux-off commands if the pc's default printer was set to print2pdf or a similar product. -Dianne On 4/12/2011 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dianne Ackerman Director, Application Development Support Aptron Corporation www.aptron.com P: 973/822-0700, ext. 105 F: 973/822-3234 dia...@aptron.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Why would they care? I know products that moved to MSSQL and ppl still lined up for the unix offering. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com wrote: I can only imagine how this feels at Rocket... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:51 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too long ago when Epicor was from the top UniData VAR and Datatel was the 2nd. They now both have SQL Server offerings, although to date Datatel's still has UDT in the middle tier AFAIK. --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Barry Rogen bro...@pny.com wrote: Epicor has their package of the future which started as Vantage and is now just called Epicor 9. It is a Progress based system which can run on either a Progress database or Sql. Unfortunately, my company has taken the misstep to divert from UniVerse to this monstrosity. Barry Rogen Senior Programmer/Analyst 973 560-5327 bro...@pny.com - We are continually faced with great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. John W Gardner Before printing please think about your environmental responsibility -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers. Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers. I am not aware of any Epicor's product running on Progress. I believe that Epicor had (or still has) other ERP software running on U2. A few years ago, with Epicor's new president, George X... Epicor's newer flagship product was released and runs on Microsoft SQL Server. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.com wrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From:
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
lol On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
There is no SB involved correct? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
Well, from D3 that would make sense. Sry. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: There is no SB involved correct? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
Or bitbucket. He said 19k lines of code. that would be painful on pickwiki On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote: Charlie: Why not try PickWiki? Bill - Original Message - *From:* cwn...@comcast.net *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 4/6/2011 7:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug) Hey Dubya (lol), I don't think you want me to put this baby on the group - it's almost 19,000 lines of code and 700KB. There are several support files as well.If you can come up with a place where it will be easy to put it, I'd be glad to. I've always shared my stuff, always will. I won't get rich, but that's OK. Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Regards, Charlie On 04-05-2011 12:40 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: The main reason I won't change is because I use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can even make coffee! Publish. We all want to see your ugly baby, so publish the code. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors
What is you cant stomach eclipse :) poke, poke. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com wrote: Lovely, but traditionally the [ad] tag goes in the subject. Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:24:44 -0600 From: dave...@gmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors [ad] When U2logic introduced the first U2 editor based on Eclipse IDE in 2004, we revolutionized the U2 tools market. All of our changes until today have really been evolutionary. We are announcing a revolutionary change for the U2 market which we call it Continuous Compile. Continuous compile means that when you stop typing, for let say 500 milliseconds, we will verify your entire program with the UniBasic compiler. We show you the information that we get back from Universe or Unidata compilers with whatever compile options you specify. This is no parlor trick nor have we added a parser to Eclipse to do what the compiler does. We call the Unidata or Universe compiler to verify your code just when you stop typing. We have setup preferences to allow you to control if the function is on or off and how many milliseconds before it verifies your code. You will see the real error messages and any unassigned variables. Your code, however, never gets updated on the server until you specifically save and compile it. Say goodbye to EMACS, VIM, VI, Edit Plus, BDT, AE, ED, or whatever you use. Move up to the industry leader in Eclipse based tools for Universe and Unidata. The XLr8Editor can be yours for $49.00 per year. U2logic Team, www.u2logic.com/tools.html [/ad] ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
