I wonder if everyone should host where they feel comfortable. The common place we congregate should just have pointers out.
The main point I was making is _any_ wiki is not the right place to share _the_ code. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let's say you load a piece of code that does a great XML parsing, but I want > to watch that code to get the next update from say... some other guy changing > that code and republishing it right in the same spot. > > That's a subscription to a page change. But it's not *my* code, I didn't > change it or load it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel McGrath <[email protected]> > To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:53 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > > > 'GitHub can notify you when people interact with your code' > You have account settings to turn on/off exactly what you get notified about. > Does that meet your requirements? > -----Original Message----- > rom: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > n Behalf Of Wjhonson > ent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:42 AM > o: [email protected] > ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > I will only be involved if there is a way to subscribe to changes, so they > come > t me, instead of me needing to go to them. > > -----Original Message----- > rom: Daniel McGrath <[email protected]> > o: U2 Users List <[email protected]> > ent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 9:39 am > ubject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > > will personally pay for a business bronze github subscription to help set > this > . > e need a small handful of people who are willing to work with setting this up > operly as well as people who already have tools worthy of being shared to mail > hose people either permission to them in the repository. > teve & Will, would you be willing to be involved? Anyone who is can email me @ > [email protected] and I will set it up this weekend then email out the > formation to get this started. > nce people are committed we can work out appropriate licensing info, etc. > egards, > n > ----Original Message----- > om: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > Behalf Of Steve Romanow > nt: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:16 AM > : U2 Users List > bject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > n order to realize this vision, does every solution have to be implemented in > CK? > f the goal is to "make our development tasks more efficient" it is making sure > e labor that one of us puts in is not reproduced by another, i.e. Pick syntax > les for various tools. > he "collaboration point" whether it is pickwiki or another, does not have to > st the code, but pointers to the places where the resource can be maintained > operly. > n example is the MAKEXML program on the wiki. I have used that many times and > eriously appreciate ECL and KRJ for making it available. > it perfect, not really, every time I use it, I get the docstring twice. The > ki is not the way to communicate that it needs a patch. > I did (which I should) fix my copy, who do I communicate it to? We also need > let people know under what license we post the code under. Can I put MAKEXML > on my github and patch it, giving attribution to ECL and KRJ? > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: > As the OP, I like the idea of a wiki, provided it can either use straight > TML, > se MediaWiki markup (which is slightly different), or use a WYSIWIG like > tes.google.com or pbwiki uses. I find that only a few of these have gained > fficient traction that most gearheads know how to use them, the other > mpetitors are just more headaches. > Make it searchable. Sure. I assume that any web pages are searchable. You > ve to actively make something not searchable AFAIK. > Useful examples - hopefully. Make sense to everyone - probably not as > ossible. But anything that doesn't make sense, you'd be able to markup > I didn't address docs, but sure why not. > Collaborate - that's the main point of my message really. To find a way to > llaborate that is more immediate, and more used that PickWiki which seems very > b-webby to me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Thompson <[email protected]> > To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 8:46 am > Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > > So, I thought what the original poster was getting at was: > 1) Create a documentation/wiki/example site > ) Make it searchable > ) Have useful examples that make sense to everyone > ) Also post the vendor/var docs > ) Collaborate on ideas (like we do here) Maybe you guys are talking about > omething else... > Github, svn, cvs, PRC and all those are great tools, but, they probably ren't > oing to create the "Wikipedia" of the MV world. > The above can be done, but, it needs to become a living/breathing thing hat > ets updated a lot, otherwise, folks won't use it. Hence the > hallenge- making it a living/breathing thing. > I know this kind of thing has been tried, and is being tried... but there > obably isn't enough flag waving and marketing to keep it going. > Or people create something, and try to make it subscription based, which in > is day and time is never going to work with something like the bove. > Some of the things I know about are: > http://www.nuwiki.com/cgi-bin/nuwiki.cgi?home&project=nuwiki > ttp://www.keyally.com/prdb/universe/basic_tree_all.html > ttp://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl > Anyway, I'd like to help with something like that. I'm just not sure at my > age in life, that I have the time to spearhead it and become the chief > rchitect" of something like that. > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Personally I respond more immediately when something comes at me. > Would it not be possible to set up a mailing list for any changes to > Incubator code? So all users on that list get emailed when a change is > made? > I think this would propel both use of the code, and <s>misuse</s> > enhancement. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Leach <[email protected]> > To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 2:55 pm > Subject: Re: [U2] Code Collaboration > > Mecki > Thats why the board launched the Incubator project early this year. > The > intent > s for this to become a repository of useful working examples of using > the > echnology. But I don't have the time to write those all myself and we > have > been > rying to pursuade the community to get involved. > Brian > ent from my ASUS Eee Pad > Mecki Foerthmann <[email protected]> wrote: > >I think a major problem is the lack of training/documentation. > Great that there are all these new possibilities, but if you have to > figure everything out yourself it becomes very difficult to keep up > with > the technology. > A lot of VARs (especially ours) are no help if you get the feeling > they > know even less then you do. > It is very frustrating if the business asks, 'can we do that?' and > you > can only answer, 'yes, I know it's possible but I don't know how to > make > it work.' > And how am I to show the young guys all the flash things I have seen > in > demos or heard about here if I can't get them to work myself? > On 17/11/2011 20:55, David Jordan wrote: > > The U2UG board has been discussing with Rocket how to encourage > excitement > hat U2 is not legacy but is a technology leader. I was at a > presentation > of a > 2 VAR and they demonstrated product that would be indistinguishable > from > any > ther player in open systems, Service architecture, interoperability, > web > ntefaces, etc. How do we get this across to the market. > > > > With collaboration, we need to first excite. How do we excite > people > in U2 > echnology. Is it looking at a major enhancement of the BASIC > programming > anguage or a new one within U2. What other things do we look at. > > > > Currently young programmers are excited by web technology's, mobile > apps, the > exy stuff. They are not interested in the backend, whether Oracle > RDBMS, > SQL > erver or U2. This is a problem across the industry. > > > > The board of the user group are interested in areas to look at and > how to > reate infrastructure to make this happen. If we can reignite > excitement > in > he product and create a place for collaboration where that excitement > can > be > ut to good use then I believe we can achieve success. However our > success > epends on a group of people not a few individuals. If this is to > occur, > it is > ime for people to become involved in shaping a future. > > > > Regards > > David Jordan > > VP U2UG > > _______________________________________________ > > U2-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ______________________________________________ > 2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > -- > ohn Thompson > ______________________________________________ > 2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ______________________________________________ > -Users mailing list > [email protected] > tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _____________________________________________ > -Users mailing list > [email protected] > tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > 2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ______________________________________________ > 2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
