Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

good info, thanks!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mitch 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; RickG 
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?


  We are using 6.1.4 and having a few clients "M" that freeze (passing traffic) 
till reboot

  have updated them to 6.1.6 and it seems to have stopped so far anyway

  All our AC and Prism are on 8.5.0 have not tried the 8.5.1 yet






  On 3/11/2018 6:53 PM, RickG wrote:

Ya, 5.6.6 "if" you're doing the "alt-upgrade". "If" you're doing the Prism 
upgrade, the latest (8.5.1) running well. YMMV  


On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

  566 is all I'll do.  Makes it easier to ahem upgrade


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Mar 10, 2018 4:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


We had quite a few on 5.6.3 but as we're moving to the AC platform we 
have quite a few now on 6.0.4
I know 6.0.4 has trouble with aircontrol discovery.
Whats the most current *reliable* firmware without any issues?
What are you running? :)
Thanks.

It's a cold and rainy weekend here in Alabama and a good time to play 
in aircontrol...




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Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yup - was looking for suggestions on the M series.  Ran it by wisp talk too, 
but lots of answers.
 :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?


  Ya, 5.6.6 "if" you're doing the "alt-upgrade". "If" you're doing the Prism 
upgrade, the latest (8.5.1) running well. YMMV  


  On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

566 is all I'll do.  Makes it easier to ahem upgrade


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


    On Mar 10, 2018 4:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


  We had quite a few on 5.6.3 but as we're moving to the AC platform we 
have quite a few now on 6.0.4
  I know 6.0.4 has trouble with aircontrol discovery.
  Whats the most current *reliable* firmware without any issues?
  What are you running? :)
  Thanks.

  It's a cold and rainy weekend here in Alabama and a good time to play in 
aircontrol...




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Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i see what you did there...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?


  566 is all I'll do.  Makes it easier to ahem upgrade


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mar 10, 2018 4:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


We had quite a few on 5.6.3 but as we're moving to the AC platform we have 
quite a few now on 6.0.4
I know 6.0.4 has trouble with aircontrol discovery.
Whats the most current *reliable* firmware without any issues?
What are you running? :)
Thanks.

It's a cold and rainy weekend here in Alabama and a good time to play in 
aircontrol...



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[Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We had quite a few on 5.6.3 but as we're moving to the AC platform we have 
quite a few now on 6.0.4
I know 6.0.4 has trouble with aircontrol discovery.
Whats the most current *reliable* firmware without any issues?
What are you running? :)
Thanks.

It's a cold and rainy weekend here in Alabama and a good time to play in 
aircontrol...

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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Thanks for the info

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  The max transmit power for 3.65ghz depends on what channel width you're 
using. If it's using 2' dishes, the antenna gain should be somewhere around 
26dbi. I think you can go up to like 44db (or maybe 46... I don't remember for 
sure off hand) EIRP if you're using the full 40mhz channel, so transmit power 
should be like 20dbm max with 2' dishes. 





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  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of CBB - Jay Fuller [par...@cyberbroadband.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:01 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3



  When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output power be, and 
what should the antenna gain be?
  We are using rocketdishes.
  Thanks!




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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

no, link has been here at least two years.  not sure what is up.  powercode did 
not alert us to the problem and the signal issue has been going on about a 
month.  we've checked both ends and even swapped connectors.  moving towards 
bad radio.  

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  Did you track the signals over time?  If lost signal, more than likely bad 
radio.


  Is this a new link?



  Josh Luthman
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  On Jan 30, 2018 12:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


I wish.  Wouldn't be using 3.65 if it were LOS

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  LOS?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Jan 30, 2018 12:37 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


we are seeing a "chain inbalanace" and having a hard time fixing it

one end of the link (local) is -55 / -56
the other end is like -56 / -78

it has killed the throughput of the link

bad radio?

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3



  not my department...

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


Did you submit and get a green light from Cheryl Black?  That's 
where your power should be detailed... 




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        On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output 
power be, and what should the antenna gain be?
  We are using rocketdishes.
  Thanks!



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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I wish.  Wouldn't be using 3.65 if it were LOS

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  LOS?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Jan 30, 2018 12:37 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


we are seeing a "chain inbalanace" and having a hard time fixing it

one end of the link (local) is -55 / -56
the other end is like -56 / -78

it has killed the throughput of the link

bad radio?

  - Original Message ----- 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3



  not my department...

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


Did you submit and get a green light from Cheryl Black?  That's where 
your power should be detailed... 




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output power 
be, and what should the antenna gain be?
  We are using rocketdishes.
  Thanks!



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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

we are seeing a "chain inbalanace" and having a hard time fixing it

one end of the link (local) is -55 / -56
the other end is like -56 / -78

it has killed the throughput of the link

bad radio?

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3



  not my department...

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


Did you submit and get a green light from Cheryl Black?  That's where your 
power should be detailed... 




Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output power be, 
and what should the antenna gain be?
  We are using rocketdishes.
  Thanks!



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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

not my department...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  Did you submit and get a green light from Cheryl Black?  That's where your 
power should be detailed...




  Josh Luthman
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  On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output power be, and 
what should the antenna gain be?
We are using rocketdishes.
Thanks!



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[Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

When configuring airfiber 3, what should the transmit output power be, and what 
should the antenna gain be?
We are using rocketdishes.
Thanks!

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios won't operate on the same channel

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Saved !

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Radios won't operate on the same channel
Date: Wed, Nov 29, 2017 4:53 PM

Nice!

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP
From: "Sam Tetherow" 
To: "ubnt users" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:40:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios won't operate on the same channel






ssh into the radio and
ubntbox dfs-unlock -u "YOUR COMPANY NAME" YOUR_ACTIVATION_CODE


On 11/29/2017 01:07 PM, Roy wrote:









I have several codes but there is no "Activate" button.  At the
suggestion of another member of the mailing list, I regressed
the Nanobridge to 5.6.9 and then the "Activate" button
appeared.  I did than and then reinstalled 6.1.3.  Luckily I had
a copy of 5.6.9 in my library



To save anyone the digging to find out how to regress, I think
these are the steps I used.  



1) install 6.0.6

2) Install 6.0.6 beta

3) reboot

4) install 5.6.9



Roy







On 11/28/2017 9:55 PM, Mimbres Communications wrote:




Do you have an unlock code for the NBM5?



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Roy

wrote:



I have a Nanobridge running 6.1.3 trying to connect to a
Nanostation

also running 6.1.3



The Nanostation is the AP and set for 5630 Mhz.  The
Nanobridge won't

connect since it doesn't seem to allow operation on that
channel?



A check of allowed channels has the Nanobridge missing
5585 to 5655 Mhz



Any ideas on how to fix this?



Roy

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We like cyber guys :)

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mark Stephenson" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
Date: Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:08 PM

Well, two reasons.. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features 
like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that 
older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New 
versions often include security fixes now or eventually.

Mark




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To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 

Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2



Why fix what isn't broken?Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 
937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:I 
have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
a version that works well.

Thanks much!
Mark Stephenson
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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

simple - no firmware gets rolled out until its been out for at least a few 
months and minimal problems reported on the ubnt forums.
some of our network is still on 5.6.3 for this although i think 5.6.15 is 
probably good too.

newer stuff is on 6.0.4 which was great - - until aircontrol can't discover it 
anymore.  now that segment isnot very happy for monitoring

  - Original Message - 
  From: Forbes Mercy 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 1:24 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware


  Obviously Ubiquiti doesn't appreciate the time it takes to upgrade a few 
  thousand radios by coming out with a new firmware every few days. Get 
  it right the first time people!

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Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I may be putting our techs to work... lol

  - Original Message - 
  From: Aaron McKillip 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


  We just manually add all new radios at the end of the day. easier than 
downgrading and upgrading firmware. Really hope they get the discovery working 
on the new firmware soon

  Aaron McKillip 
  Hamilton Telecommunications
  402-694-6655

  On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:



My understanding is it is a code change in 6.0.4, and waiting for future 
versions of aircontrol probably won't fix it.
I just don't want to login to 300+ radios / access points to change 
firmware.  Ugh!

I did notice you can do a broadcast from a manually entered device - but 
that does not appear to work - or it does
not find the equipment...


  - Original Message - 
  From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


  I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I had 
some being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in 
devices not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed prism radios too.


  I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP and 
CPE for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing radios!!




  Troy










  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
  Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 



  Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any 
suggestions around this?

  Thought I'd post it here too - 

  Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago 
I attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


  A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them 
all to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



  Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that 
particular network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



  Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 
6.0.4 to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



  I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



  Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



  I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server 
is in public ip space).


  I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be 
reporting to the wrong IP.



  I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.



  I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 
6.0.4 on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  
I am hoping for another option.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

My understanding is it is a code change in 6.0.4, and waiting for future 
versions of aircontrol probably won't fix it.
I just don't want to login to 300+ radios / access points to change firmware.  
Ugh!

I did notice you can do a broadcast from a manually entered device - but that 
does not appear to work - or it does
not find the equipment...


  - Original Message - 
  From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


  I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I had some 
being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in devices 
not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed prism radios too.


  I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP and CPE 
for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing radios!!




  Troy










  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
  Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 



  Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any 
suggestions around this?

  Thought I'd post it here too - 

  Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


  A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them all 
to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



  Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that particular 
network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



  Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 6.0.4 
to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



  I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



  Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



  I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is 
in public ip space).


  I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be 
reporting to the wrong IP.



  I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.



  I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 6.0.4 
on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  I am 
hoping for another option.



  Bueller?  Bueller?



  Thanks 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I have chosen to go the 2.4 ac route... :)
at least for now

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices


  Epmp elevate


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  On Aug 31, 2017 1:25 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any 
suggestions around this?

Thought I'd post it here too - 

Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them 
all to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.



Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that 
particular network segment but did not find any 6.0.4



Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 
6.0.4 to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.



I don't want to do this to 300 devices.



Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.



I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is 
in public ip space).


I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be 
reporting to the wrong IP.



I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.



I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 
6.0.4 on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  
I am hoping for another option.



Bueller?  Bueller?



Thanks 

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[Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any suggestions 
around this?

Thought I'd post it here too - 

Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months ago I 
attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted my 
database and would not even start the server service.  Last night late I 
started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my 
network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip 
addresses and put them all on 6.0.4


A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move them all to 
6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password.

 

Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that particular 
network segment but did not find any 6.0.4

 

Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 6.0.4 to 
5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately.

 

I don't want to do this to 300 devices.

 

Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within our 
network.

 

I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server is in 
public ip space).


I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be reporting 
to the wrong IP.

 

I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in bulk.

 

I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 6.0.4 
on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ devices.  I am 
hoping for another option.

 

Bueller?  Bueller?

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Purchase Agreement

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

who is it? :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Melson 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:14 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Purchase Agreement


  Does someone have a purchase agreement I can use to buy out another WISP?

  Ill adjust to fit our needs.

   

   

   

  Thanks,

   

  Kevin Melson

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  2007 Hwy 72 E

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  www.e1w.com

   

   

   

   



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Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

The fallback ip was only received after the DHCP request failed - but since 
each radio had the "default ip" they were all on the same ip

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jan Van Kort 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs


  Understanding what you're saying is: each radio gets a unique "fall-back" IP 
as well as a unique regular IP?




  On 08/18/2017 05:54 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


We had an issue not long ago where we were doing DHCP on a network and it 
was not being passed from router to router.
The result was a whole bunch of radios going to the default fallback 
address which was - you guessed it - the same IP.
Fortunately this was about 15 radios.

I actually wound up plugging directly into the network segment (switch) and 
changing each radios default management IP
manually.  This was actually a network conversion moving from pppoe to DHCP 
(from their billing server to ours).  The
fallback IP is only an IP - no subnet, no gateway, so I basically picked a 
number in their existing legacy subnet that I did
not think was being used (something like .70) and put the first radio on 
.71...second on .72...and so on.

When it came time to switch them all to DHCP after the conversion it was 
pretty easy - but this took a while to do (obviously)
I'd change one radio, then keep hitting fresh until the next radio came up. 
 Sometimes I'd get a different radio with each refresh.
But - eventually - they were all changed and no radios were on the 
"initial" fallback ip anymore and - problem solved.

I went to the steakhouse in the town and bought a steak :)



  - Original Message - 
  From: Christian Palecek 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs


  How are you handing out ips?  Are the duplicates in the same segment? 
What type of router is on the headend?






  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
  Date: 8/18/17 4:02 PM (GMT-07:00) 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs 


  er,... ip addresses


  On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> 
wrote:

discovery tool (ubnt) did not find it, Dude discovery tool, ditto.  I 
had to guess which device one of them might be, change the ip and then voila, 
discovery with dude found a new device which was another nsm2 with same ip.  I 
need something that works without having to guess.


Jan V



On 08/18/2017 02:35 PM, Adair Winter wrote:

  Discovery tool?


  On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jan-OOLLC 
<j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:

ubnt specific.  What can be done to locate duplicate IP addresses.  
Are there any applications that do this?


Jan V



On 08/18/2017 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Like Ubnt specific?  Not sure what the question is.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  On Aug 18, 2017 3:21 PM, "Jan-OOLLC" <j.vank...@oregononline.net> 
wrote:

Anyone ever dealt with this?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We had an issue not long ago where we were doing DHCP on a network and it was 
not being passed from router to router.
The result was a whole bunch of radios going to the default fallback address 
which was - you guessed it - the same IP.
Fortunately this was about 15 radios.

I actually wound up plugging directly into the network segment (switch) and 
changing each radios default management IP
manually.  This was actually a network conversion moving from pppoe to DHCP 
(from their billing server to ours).  The
fallback IP is only an IP - no subnet, no gateway, so I basically picked a 
number in their existing legacy subnet that I did
not think was being used (something like .70) and put the first radio on 
.71...second on .72...and so on.

When it came time to switch them all to DHCP after the conversion it was pretty 
easy - but this took a while to do (obviously)
I'd change one radio, then keep hitting fresh until the next radio came up.  
Sometimes I'd get a different radio with each refresh.
But - eventually - they were all changed and no radios were on the "initial" 
fallback ip anymore and - problem solved.

I went to the steakhouse in the town and bought a steak :)



  - Original Message - 
  From: Christian Palecek 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs


  How are you handing out ips?  Are the duplicates in the same segment? What 
type of router is on the headend?






  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: Adair Winter  
  Date: 8/18/17 4:02 PM (GMT-07:00) 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs 


  er,... ip addresses


  On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Jan-OOLLC  wrote:

discovery tool (ubnt) did not find it, Dude discovery tool, ditto.  I had 
to guess which device one of them might be, change the ip and then voila, 
discovery with dude found a new device which was another nsm2 with same ip.  I 
need something that works without having to guess.


Jan V



On 08/18/2017 02:35 PM, Adair Winter wrote:

  Discovery tool?


  On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jan-OOLLC  
wrote:

ubnt specific.  What can be done to locate duplicate IP addresses.  Are 
there any applications that do this?


Jan V



On 08/18/2017 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Like Ubnt specific?  Not sure what the question is.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Aug 18, 2017 3:21 PM, "Jan-OOLLC"  
wrote:

Anyone ever dealt with this?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

They were using scripts, and they do have a lot of single pol gear (airgrids), 
but nothing to explain why a lot of radios were locked
to MCS3 or MCS1mostly fixed now.  we've been touching every radio

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nick Bright 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 1:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?


  On 7/13/2017 8:54 PM, Jay Fuller - Cyber Broadband Inc. wrote:

 We have a 2.4 network we recently acquired - in going through some of the 
radios - we find several of them have 
Max TX Rate locked in at MCS 1 - auto is unchecked.

I've never seen a configuration like this nor have I ever heard of it being 
done.

Why would someone do this?  What possible benefit could this have been?
  If a radio is on the verge of upshifting mod rates, but will shift back down; 
causing a flutter in mod rates; this can take up air time. In such case, you 
could fix the max mod rate to the lower of the two to stabilize performance; 
but you wouldn't want to go to MCS1.

  Maybe they did it to limit usage by limiting the bandwidth via mod rates? 
That's about the worst way to do it I can think of, but it would have that 
effect.

  Perhaps they were configuring the radios via a script, and it's an error? I 
saw that happen a couple of times when my field people restored backups on 
dissimilar hardware, it caused 2x2 units to get locked to MCS7.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.04 Low signal

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I think I read this somewhere - had to do with the cpu clock freq.  Email 
support about it...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jan Van Kort 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:47 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] 6.04 Low signal


  Hey, I just installed an NSM2 today and the signal level read 59db.  I 
  updated the firmware to 6.04 and the signal level dropped to 74.  What's 
  up with that?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Great idea Garth!  Thanks
  - Original Message - 
  From: G. Nicholas 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation


  Jay,

  Sounds like you are running the radio in bridge mode?

  If so use the firewall on the client radio LAN

  block src udp port 67 0.0.0.0/32 destination 0.0.0.0/32 udp 68


  Garth


  - Original Message -
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: 7/27/2017 5:18:02 PM
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] client isolation

  > 
  > 
  > Just found i have a business on a tower that has a tp link plugged in 
  backwards.  The invalid DHCP ranges are getting across the interface to other 
  businesses on the same switch.  If I enable "client isolation" on the access 
  point will it prevent this until we can reach the business?
  > There are only two people on the access point in question.
  > 
  > Thanks :)
  > 
  > 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

two businesses next to each other that need to share data over the bridge...

makes more sense to vlan them or something in that case

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation


  It means traffic can pass thru your AP from client to client.  I can not 
think of any reason you would ever want this type of activity. 

  Shawn C. Peppers
  Video Direct
  866-680-8433 Toll Free
  http://www.video-direct.tv

  On Jul 27, 2017, at 5:37 PM, ty...@wigi.us wrote:



lol.  I almost said..never had to use that feature before not really 
sure how it will work but I was definitely curious.
  - Original Message - 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation
  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
  Date: 7/27/17 6:35 pm
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>



  um, no, it won't ;)

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To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:18 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] client isolation



Just found i have a business on a tower that has a tp link plugged in 
backwards.  The invalid DHCP ranges are getting across the interface to other 
businesses on the same switch.  If I enable "client isolation" on the access 
point will it prevent this until we can reach the business?
There are only two people on the access point in question.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate pppoe.
you'll never convince me to go there.
in fact, we're moving away from it.

we use DHCP by mac address - - works fine until someone plugs something in 
backwards.
I mean unless you like viisting 1000s of customers programming in usernames and 
passwords

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation


  This is why you need to switch to pppoe.  This is why you dont bridge the 
customer CPE station.  Client isolation will likely not fix this issue but try 
it and you should have it on anyways. 

  Shawn C. Peppers
  Video Direct
  866-680-8433 Toll Free
  http://www.video-direct.tv

  On Jul 27, 2017, at 5:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:




Just found i have a business on a tower that has a tp link plugged in 
backwards.  The invalid DHCP ranges are getting across the interface to other 
businesses on the same switch.  If I enable "client isolation" on the access 
point will it prevent this until we can reach the business?
There are only two people on the access point in question.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] client isolation

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

um, no, it won't ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:18 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] client isolation




  Just found i have a business on a tower that has a tp link plugged in 
backwards.  The invalid DHCP ranges are getting across the interface to other 
businesses on the same switch.  If I enable "client isolation" on the access 
point will it prevent this until we can reach the business?
  There are only two people on the access point in question.

  Thanks :)




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[Ubnt_users] client isolation

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Just found i have a business on a tower that has a tp link plugged in 
backwards.  The invalid DHCP ranges are getting across the interface to other 
businesses on the same switch.  If I enable "client isolation" on the access 
point will it prevent this until we can reach the business?
There are only two people on the access point in question.

Thanks :)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Happens automatically if you put the access point in station mode and then put 
it back in access point mode

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Jan Van Kort" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] changing channels on me?
Date: Wed, Jul 26, 2017 1:53 PM

two issues: I've got some m5 gear that seem able to change channels 
after install on their own.  I've found a couple that were in auto mode 
(never allowed here) and a few more that were in not normal channel 
selections.  Does this happen as a result of firmware updates?

I've noticed on the newer radios they have a wider range of channel 
selections, but this seems weird as another new one out of same parts 
order pile won't have the same range.  I'll set the access point for 
channel 37 and go over to the receive station and it won't see it.  
Cannot connect them, the station will only go to 147.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 2AC Prism Firmware compatibility

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Last I checked they had moved out of the ubnt beta store and were available for 
general purchase in the ubnt online store

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 2AC Prism Firmware compatibility


  These came from the Ubquiti Beta Store.  You might contact Jeff 
  Broadwick at CTI about availability.

  RickG wrote:
  > Where are you getting the R2AC Prisms? I'm having a hard time locating 
  > them.
  >
  > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:24 AM, RickG  > wrote:
  >
  > You may need both depending on your mix of CPE.
  >
  > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Jay Weekley
  > > wrote:
  >
  > I'm upgrading the firmware for some clients for compatibility
  > with the
  > Rocket 2AC Prism.  Do I need the XW.v.6.0.4 or XM.v.6.0.4
  > firmware versions?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

ok, i'd buy this.  but i'd say 80% of the clients were "fixed" to the lowest 
modulation.
there are a few i could understand this being done for.
thanks Jonathan - I did not think of that.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Taylor 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?


  I would do this on fringe clients with low signal so it would stabilize the 
modulation.  When the modulation jumps around the throughput was worse. 


  Jonathan Taylor
  WiSouth Networks, LLC
  jtay...@wisouth.net
  (334) 595-9521


  On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:06 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


We have a 2.4 network we recently acquired - in going through some of the 
radios - we find several of them have 
Max TX Rate locked in at MCS 1 - auto is unchecked.

I've never seen a configuration like this nor have I ever heard of it being 
done.

Why would someone do this?  What possible benefit could this have been?

I think it is related to interference mitigation but several of the clients 
I have undone this setting on are already modulating
much better (obviously)

thoughts?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I bet this is some old juju left over...
actually, my thinking is it is in a config file they used over and over and 
over again
no wonder they said this particular tower sucked...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?


  In the event your auto modulation sucks.  Older Airmax was really really bad 
at this.


  These days with 5.5+ I would do auto.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Jul 13, 2017 10:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


We have a 2.4 network we recently acquired - in going through some of the 
radios - we find several of them have 
Max TX Rate locked in at MCS 1 - auto is unchecked.

I've never seen a configuration like this nor have I ever heard of it being 
done.

Why would someone do this?  What possible benefit could this have been?

I think it is related to interference mitigation but several of the clients 
I have undone this setting on are already modulating
much better (obviously)

thoughts?

Thanks :)



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Re: [Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

if so many were locked at MCS1, isn't that retransmitting the crap out of the 
access point, thus basically
killing all of its bandwidth?

(lowest modulation rate = lowest amount of data possible sent?)

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:06 PM
  Subject: why limit the mcs rate ?



  We have a 2.4 network we recently acquired - in going through some of the 
radios - we find several of them have 
  Max TX Rate locked in at MCS 1 - auto is unchecked.

  I've never seen a configuration like this nor have I ever heard of it being 
done.

  Why would someone do this?  What possible benefit could this have been?

  I think it is related to interference mitigation but several of the clients I 
have undone this setting on are already modulating
  much better (obviously)

  thoughts?

  Thanks :)

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[Ubnt_users] why limit the mcs rate ?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We have a 2.4 network we recently acquired - in going through some of the 
radios - we find several of them have 
Max TX Rate locked in at MCS 1 - auto is unchecked.

I've never seen a configuration like this nor have I ever heard of it being 
done.

Why would someone do this?  What possible benefit could this have been?

I think it is related to interference mitigation but several of the clients I 
have undone this setting on are already modulating
much better (obviously)

thoughts?

Thanks :)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Response from UBNT post

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

one would think prior versions were "unsigned" ? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mitch 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Response from UBNT post


  But how does this require not being able to down grade to UBNT Firmware???






  On 7/11/2017 5:20 PM, UBNT SNK wrote:

Going forward, regulators require that devices prevent unauthorized 
software from being loaded. For more information, please take a look at the 
following documentation: 



https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2339685/fcc-software-security-requirements.pdf

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Need to change network settings

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I was thinking this - i thought on old aircontrol there was an option to 
execute a script
some changes you can make in bulk using aircontrol - not sure if traffic 
shaping is one of them
DNS might be one of them as well, i'm  not sure.
The DNS redirect in the mikrotik works well - we used it for years.
Still have some subnet ranges using it but the majority here is DHCP

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Taylor 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Need to change network settings


  If AC2 has something that can push configs that you can use to restore. 
you could use the program Note pad ++ to open up a group of configs all at once 
in text and then use find and replace in all of the documents.  It is something 
i have wanted to try but just haven't tried it yet in a lab setting.


  Jonathan Taylor
  WiSouth Networks, LLC
  jtay...@wisouth.net
  (334) 595-9521


  On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

To my knowledge it would be your only method.  Using sed should be pretty 
damn easy.  You'll need sshpass and hopefully all of the devices have the same 
user/password (or at least it's in large groups).  Hell I wonder if the 
AirControl box installed an ssh key.


I might be able to help you later if you do the before/after config options 
out of /tmp/system.cfg - if it were me I'd take a backup now, make the changes 
manually on one, and then a simple diff will tell you what you need to change.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

  Everything static now. Using MikroTik now to redirect DNS to new Address. 



  Issue I have with SSH is all the scripting it takes to make it work.  
Should have just taken those Linux classes back years ago.



  Steve Barnes

  Wireless Operations Manager

  New Lisbon Broadband

  NLBC.COM

  PCSWIN.COM

  765-584-2288 ext:1101



  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:55 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Need to change network settings



  Are they set to DHCP now or no?  You change DNS in your lease.



  Traffic shaping you'd have to do via SSH/sed I think...






  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

I have 1000 devices that I need to quickly add several Network setting 
changes. DNS. DHCP, Traffic Shaping. and of course AC2 is of no help.  I AM NOT 
A SCRIPT writer.  Is there any other tools out there to do this. Is there a way 
to load only a partial config file and overwrite only what has changed?  Need 
something better than my staff spending the next 3 days doing only 
reconfiguring of 1000 subs.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
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[Ubnt_users] rocket ac lite

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I assume these do not qualify for gps sync?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Almost all of our meters are $22 a month

  - Original Message - 
  From: G. Nicholas 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power


  Josh,

  I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In IL Ameren 
considers 
  tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic account charge 
and 
  meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site with 
separately 
  metered service runs us around $75/m.

  Garth

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  Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

  > Solar an option?
  > 
  > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
  > wrote:
  > 
  > > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 a
  > > month for a handful of devices.
  > >
  > >
  > > Josh Luthman
  > > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
  > > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
  > > 1100 Wayne St
  > > Suite 1337
  > > Troy, OH 45373
  > >
  > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC 
  > > wrote:
  > >
  > >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
  > >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
  > >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
  > >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Had a similar situation not too long ago, old company had gone out of business 
(or was in process of going under), i just went and gave them the address and 
said i was the current tenent and wanted to turn power on.  They setup a new 
account in my name and sent the former business (who was no longer there) a 
bill for the balance due.  Obviously they'll be writing that amount off...

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Funderburk 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power


  Years ago I flipped a couple of houses.  I could call the power company 
  with the meter # and they'd tell me if they could turn the power on.  
  Usually it was dependent on whether there was still $ owed on the 
  account.  Not sure if it will work in today's environment but you might 
  try calling them with the # but they may tell you the past due will have 
  to be paid first. If that's the case you can judge if it's worth the cost.

  David


  On 06/06/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
  > Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
  > power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
  > went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
  > more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
  >

  -- 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Odd Nanobridge problem

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

so a few updates on this since the other jay first posted it - 

* we've seen this before, sometimes with ubnt gear.  i guess the proper thing 
to do is wireshark the connection but since the towers are many miles away and 
it was cold and raining, we just started stumbling through troubleshooting 
steps late last night

* at times a ubnt radio (haven't seen it with any other radio) will "flood" the 
network causing lost packets - i assume due to too much traffic or some other 
cause.  there is one nanobridge feeding two sites that are within 8 degrees of 
each other (one 9 miles, one 12 miles).  each site started with only 900 mhz 
canopy (three sectors a piece per site).  we have added one 2.4 ubnt omni 
within the last year to one of the sites.
we added 2.4 epmp with a 120 sector to the other site within the last year.

* as stated last night, we could disable either site "a" or site "b" and have 
no packet loss.  we could not run them both without packet loss.
when going to bed, we left the busiest site up (with the most business 
customers) and the smaller site was offline.  these are pretty busy sites, 
probably 70 customers between both towers.  the split was probably 40 on one 
tower and 30 on the other.  again, 3 meg service (mostly)
so although they'd fed by ONE nanobridge (feeding two nanobridges at each 
tower), it was in line to move to ac gear.

*  the theory was we were going to have to replace the ac radio that is on the 
feeding tower (the master side).  In hind sight, I think doing that would not 
have resolved the problem.

*  they are on similar subnets  (this segment is bridged, not routed)

*  when i got back on this today i disabled the 2.4 omni on site (b) and left 
sites a and b connected.  there was no packet loss.
this led me to believe the problem lived on the 2.4 omni on site (b).

*  there are 11 customers on site b's omni.  I began changing each customers 
ssid to "testsite" and dropped them off one by one until i identified the 
problem customer.  i then changed all the other customers to "testsite" and 
moved the main omni ssid to testsite, leaving the problem customer offline.  

no more packet loss.

This did start after a line of storms moved through yesterday.  I assume she 
took a close strike but the radio did not die.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; a...@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:22 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Odd Nanobridge problem


  We have a 5.7 Nanobridge acting as an AP that serves two tower sites 
  that are close together.  After a storm yesterday we started getting a 
  lot of packet loss when pinging the AP.   We can disconnect either of 
  the SMs and the remaining tower works fine and there is no packet loss 
  to the AP but when we turn both sites back on the packet loss returns.  
  There is also a Netonix switch at the tower that has the 5.7 Nanobridge 
  acting as the AP and it's cable diagnostics tool shows a problem on pins 
  5, 6, 7 and 8 though the AP is powered up. Both these sites are slated 
  for upgrades to Ubiquiti AC gear but the logistics will make it 
  difficult this week.
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[Ubnt_users] nanobridge to what in the ac line?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Which product is most similar to size and gain in the nanobeam ac line to a 
traditional 5 ghz nanobridge?

Thanks :)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirOS v6, 2.4Ghz XM

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

There are a few additional firmware releases floating around on the ubnt forums 
- something a little newer than the official release but not really released as 
beta.  Seems to be working pretty good for those testing.  We are waiting on a 
few months of no problem reports before upgrading anything.

Here is the link :

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-M-Beta/6-0-vs-5-6-9/td-p/1778179/page/2

you have to be in the beta forum to be able to read it


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jerry Head 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirOS v6, 2.4Ghz XM


  We had issues with both 2.4 and 5ghz on XM gear at the AP's.
  Seems to be fine on the station side.

  On 1/30/2017 2:06 PM, Nick Bright wrote:
  > I've read a number of posts about AirOS v6 on XM hardware not being very
  > good, but I'm not clear on if that's on 2.4GHz, 5GHz, or both.
  >
  > Could anybody with experience attempting AirOS v6 on 2.4GHz with XM
  > hardware clarify?
  >
  > Thanks,
  >

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Re: [Ubnt_users] V6 and v8

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I was glancing around ubnt forums just now, there are some dev firmware posts 
targeting this problem, fyi

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rory Conaway 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] V6 and v8


  For the most part, no problems.  Still having issues with random xw radios 
not connecting to xw APs. Ubiquiti is looking at it.

  Rory

  -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:32 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] V6 and v8

  I mass pushed out v6 and v8 to my whole network and not one single problem.  
I am running sites that are only V6.0, V8.0, and Mixed mode.  Over 1500+ radios 
of all different shapes flavors and sizesall 5ghz although. 

  Shawn C. Peppers
  Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
  866-680-8433 Toll Free
  480-287-9960 Fax
  http://www.video-direct.tv

  > On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
  > 
  > Are both stable and ready to use?
  > 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Random users keep dropping off with 6.0

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

not true.  this firmware was beta for at least 15 revisions.  i do agree more 
bugs are usually found when it is released into the masses.
we tend to not update firmware but maybe twice a year

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tommy Adams 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Random users keep dropping off with 6.0


  I am shocked how many people keep installing new firmwares from UBNT and 
expecting them to work. Before installing any new firmware from any 
manufacturer check the forums. We use Mikrotik, UBNT, Mimosa, and Cambium. 
Never do I apply a newly released "upgrade" without a quick perusal all of the 
forums. We are all network admins here and should remember never test on a live 
network. 


  Everyone is acting all shocked a UBNT firmware is not working. From my 
experience over the last five years that is modus operandi for them. Please 
stop acting shocked when you receive the same weird results as 100's of others. 
And why in gods name does UBNT not pull the firmware when they find issues. 
UBNT uses its purchasers to find the bugs. Drives me nuts. 


  Not trying to enrage people and I am not picking on anyone really except 
UBNT. 


  We are all in this together,


  Tommy



  
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  On Jan 15, 2017, at 1:30 PM, RickG  wrote:


I'd like to think fork lifting for anything would help but looking at the 
forums it appears any brand has it's own share of issues.


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Peoples  wrote:

  One of many reasons to fork lift for mimosa.


  On Jan 15, 2017 10:58 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

Just had to replace 3 Nanostation Locos because 6.0 wouldn’t connect 
between them for some unknown reason.  Throwing in a Nanobeam-19 didn’t help.  
Now I have 30 users that randomly dropped off a Rocket 5M although 10 people 
are still connected. Frequency doesn’t matter.  On the NSM Locos, going back to 
5.5.9 didn’t help.  Trying that now but this sucks. 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

yes - we dealt with this a few years ago - several radios were talking to an 
old server the company we purchased ran.  that subnet was no longer even valid 
on our network.  i remember googling and finding this solution (referenced 
below) to resolve
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ridgetop Networks 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server


  You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and use 
mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the entries for the 
old AC1 server.



  On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore  
wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a
totally different subnet in a totally different physical location - no
issue with that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios
on 5.6.x and even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP
port 9080 on the old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files
on a few of these radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or
host name of the old server.  This behavior persists through reboots and
firmware upgrades.

So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.

Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
missing?

Thanks,

Tim Densmore

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ok - I appreciate your opinion.  I did provide my bandwidth graphs - they are 
no where near 40-50 meg - although I am using 10 mhz channels, so i am assuming 
I could expect 25 meg or so.  In theory, no one is goin to be maxxing out their 
connection.  They may have 10 meg available to them but they're going to be 
using 4 meg.  Sometimes 6 if they're streaming more than one tv.  Lets say 6 of 
the 14 are streaming - that is 24 meg - and the usage graph does not show 
they're getting there. 

Let me ask this in a different way.  During "peak" times - lets say 9 pm at 
night - should the ubnt speed test to the customer in duplex mode be more or 
less accurate?  

Thanks :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kerns 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp


  In my opinion, anyone  that is selling 10 meg packages on UBNT AP’s (except 5 
gig AC’s) is pushing it.

  In a point to point I can get 100 meg between the 2 radios. In a Multipoint 
environment, the best you will see is 40-50 megs aggregate (using 20 meg 
channels) for the AP.
  So how many 10 meg customers can you put on it? and if the ones on there are 
streaming video, and HD Net flick @ 6 megs.

  I just love the WISP selling 40 megs to customers using UBNT gear and then 
expect to get 10-20 clients on it.

  Also, remember the Rocket M’s have 100 meg Ethernet and it won’t pass 
more than 100 megs.

  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:17 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp


  will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
  back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages on 
2.4 rockets with these numbers?
  should the radios be able to do that?

  do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)

  maybe i will lol


- Original Message - 
From: RickG 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes and 
so far I have not been able to pinpoint it.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick <patr...@my9ja.com> wrote:

  Jay, 

  We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as 
long as everything looks fine from our end.
  But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x firmware 
and I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss it. There is no 
way a ton of customers can be hallucinating at the same time

  The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet goes 
off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.

  Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??


  Regards


  On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest 
package today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
base package is 3 meg


  - Original Message ----- 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp


  We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz 
channels.  some are sectors, some are omnis.

  Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for 
t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
  else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :

  airmax quality - 83%
  airmax capacity - 80%

  here is the stations list and their signals - 



  Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3  
  That'll change soon - maybe end of January.


  I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users 
on it

  airmax quality is 75%
  airmax capacity is 70%

  also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3

  \

  I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases 
folks are buying more than that.
  Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.

  I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting - 

  "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"

  here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb 
- 

  "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY 
suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly poor 
service and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They offer a 
"completely unlimited package" for x  in

Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages on 2.4 
rockets with these numbers?
should the radios be able to do that?

do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)

maybe i will lol


  - Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp


  Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes and so 
far I have not been able to pinpoint it.


  On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick <patr...@my9ja.com> wrote:

Jay,


We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as long 
as everything looks fine from our end.
But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x firmware and 
I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss it. There is no way a 
ton of customers can be hallucinating at the same time


The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet goes 
off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.


Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??




Regards




On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest package 
today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
  we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
  base package is 3 meg


- Original Message ----- 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp



We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz channels.  
some are sectors, some are omnis.

Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for 
t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :

airmax quality - 83%
airmax capacity - 80%

here is the stations list and their signals - 



Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3  
That'll change soon - maybe end of January.


I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users 
on it

airmax quality is 75%
airmax capacity is 70%

also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3

\

I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases 
folks are buying more than that.
Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.

I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting - 

"i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"

here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb - 

"If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY 
suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly poor 
service and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They offer a 
"completely unlimited package" for x  in which they CLAIM "as much 
connectivity as your radio allows". After compiling data from around 100+ 
bandwidth connections tests over the course of 6 months, with the average speed 
being around 7Mbits (896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to 
reflecting the service, the cap on the xx  package is 10Mbits, so I am not 
even reaching the average on that. I can only say that the highest tier package 
is nothing short of a scam. Whenever I called to complain about this outrageous 
service, I was told that it was too bad, and that nothing will be done. 
xx is a conman, relying on shady business tactics to further his 
greed."

btw - i can't recall any downtime within the last year and, well, i 
just love human beings.

i am wondering - - am i asking too much out of these access points?

usage graphed - 

access point 1 - 



access point #2




btw - i should add the kid who filed the complaint lives in his parents 
barn (yes, i said barn) and has
his own connection separate from his parents.

question - am i asking too much of these access points?

yes - i'm waiting on the rocket 2ac prism - - and these are our two 
busiest 2.4 rockets - - but 
i am also getting complaints on other parts of our network.   

ok - thanks in advance.


 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest package today 
and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
base package is 3 meg


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp



  We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz channels.  some 
are sectors, some are omnis.

  Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for 
t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
  else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :

  airmax quality - 83%
  airmax capacity - 80%

  here is the stations list and their signals - 



  Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3  
  That'll change soon - maybe end of January.


  I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users on it

  airmax quality is 75%
  airmax capacity is 70%

  also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3

  \

  I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases folks 
are buying more than that.
  Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.

  I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting - 

  "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"

  here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb - 

  "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY suggest 
it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly poor service 
and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They offer a "completely 
unlimited package" for x  in which they CLAIM "as much connectivity as your 
radio allows". After compiling data from around 100+ bandwidth connections 
tests over the course of 6 months, with the average speed being around 7Mbits 
(896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to reflecting the service, the 
cap on the xx  package is 10Mbits, so I am not even reaching the average on 
that. I can only say that the highest tier package is nothing short of a scam. 
Whenever I called to complain about this outrageous service, I was told that it 
was too bad, and that nothing will be done. xx is a conman, relying 
on shady business tactics to further his greed."

  btw - i can't recall any downtime within the last year and, well, i just love 
human beings.

  i am wondering - - am i asking too much out of these access points?

  usage graphed - 

  access point 1 - 



  access point #2




  btw - i should add the kid who filed the complaint lives in his parents barn 
(yes, i said barn) and has
  his own connection separate from his parents.

  question - am i asking too much of these access points?

  yes - i'm waiting on the rocket 2ac prism - - and these are our two busiest 
2.4 rockets - - but 
  i am also getting complaints on other parts of our network.   

  ok - thanks in advance.





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[Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz channels.  some 
are sectors, some are omnis.

Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for t-mobile??!!)  
 I guess that makes sense, no one
else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :

airmax quality - 83%
airmax capacity - 80%

here is the stations list and their signals - 



Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3  
That'll change soon - maybe end of January.


I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users on it

airmax quality is 75%
airmax capacity is 70%

also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3

\

I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases folks are 
buying more than that.
Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.

I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting - 

"i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"

here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb - 

"If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY suggest 
it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly poor service 
and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They offer a "completely 
unlimited package" for x  in which they CLAIM "as much connectivity as your 
radio allows". After compiling data from around 100+ bandwidth connections 
tests over the course of 6 months, with the average speed being around 7Mbits 
(896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to reflecting the service, the 
cap on the xx  package is 10Mbits, so I am not even reaching the average on 
that. I can only say that the highest tier package is nothing short of a scam. 
Whenever I called to complain about this outrageous service, I was told that it 
was too bad, and that nothing will be done. xx is a conman, relying 
on shady business tactics to further his greed."

btw - i can't recall any downtime within the last year and, well, i just love 
human beings.

i am wondering - - am i asking too much out of these access points?

usage graphed - 

access point 1 - 



access point #2




btw - i should add the kid who filed the complaint lives in his parents barn 
(yes, i said barn) and has
his own connection separate from his parents.

question - am i asking too much of these access points?

yes - i'm waiting on the rocket 2ac prism - - and these are our two busiest 2.4 
rockets - - but 
i am also getting complaints on other parts of our network.   

ok - thanks in advance.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air Prism

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

amen!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:07 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Air Prism


  Are we going to see a Rocket Air Prism in the 2GHz band?


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I think with the 3.2 upgraded EPMP could be an answer lol
That being said, we run maybe 40 EPMP radios and probably 300 ubnt airmax 
radios in 2.4 ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Barnes 
  To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group (ubnt_users@wispa.org)' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:30 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax we 
had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to all 
clients.  (backhauls already had security)

  Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we have 
been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  Also 
have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  Funky 
communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we never 
had without security.

  Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?

  P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We are still on 5.6.3 because of these reports

  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Wilson 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Some folks have reported this with 5.6.9. Some folks are going back to 5.6.5.

  Justin Wilson
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  > On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
  > 
  > Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax 
we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to 
all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
  > 
  > Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we 
have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  
Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  
Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we 
never had without security.
  > 
  > Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?
  > 
  > P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
  > 
  > Steve Barnes
  > Wireless Operations Manager
  > New Lisbon Broadband
  > NLBC.COM
  > PCSWIN.COM
  > 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Batch of Radios?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

try your password from the CLI

  - Original Message - 
  From: Stuart Pierce 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Bad Batch of Radios?


  Sounds like they could have possibly been infected.

  On Mon, October 10, 2016 5:43 pm, Doug wrote:
  > We loaded XW firmware on them as all new radios are xx hardware. I've
  > certainly seen the error when loading the incorrect firmware from the GUI.
  > We did not get that error.  It also doesn't explain the issue of
  > it telling us incorrect default password when we initially tried to change
  > the password.
  >
  > Doug
  > SkyValleyNetwork
  > On 10/10/2016 11:44 AM, Joey Craig wrote:
  >
  >>
  >> XM vs XW firmware?
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Oct 10, 2016 1:07 PM, "Doug" > > wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> We received a batch of 10 NanoStation M2s with  5.6.2 firmware on
  >> them.  When we programmed them up and tried changing the default password
  >> it told us we had the incorrect default password.  We tried upgrading
  >> the firmware to 5.6.9 but after upgrading we were no longer able to get
  >> to the radio at all.  We were able to put the radio in TFTP mode however
  >> when we loaded the firmware we received a server error.  This has been
  >> the case with all 10 radios.  Any suggestions for what to try? Doug
  >> Sky Valley Network
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[Ubnt_users] ubnt nanobeam 5ac 19

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Got these initially for connections under a mile
getting -46 to -50 on 1/2 mile

Got an outlier, one connection 1.5 miles.  Barely able to get -73 / -75

Is this normal?

Time for a pbe-5ac-400 that no longer exists on this planet?

Thanks :)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Streakwave has quit selling new UBNT?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I looked at this last night and only found two items that showed stock - both 
rockets.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Streakwave has quit selling new UBNT?


  They used to have a way to set an account to show the real stock numbers on 
their website. Been awhile since I used that ID though. You have to request it.


  On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:

They are always out of stock.  I can't remember the last time I have 
ordered from Streakwave that they actually had everything I needed.




On 08/30/2016 10:49 AM, James Wilson wrote:

  That's why they're out of everything!:)



  On Aug 30, 2016 11:48 AM, "Adair Winter"  
wrote:

What? I just ordered $30k worth of new ubnt yesterday...


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Jerry Head 
 wrote:

  When?
  Why?
  What did I miss?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We have been told ours would twisthaven't seen too much of it tho

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???


  We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have a bucket 
  truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.

  Jonathan Taylor wrote:
  >
  > Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
  >
  >
  > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"  > wrote:
  >
  > Where's the radome? It helps on the wind load
  >
  > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > 
  > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > ] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
  > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
  > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
  > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
  >
  > We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to
  > rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust
  > once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio after the
  > pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on top of the
  > pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
  >
  > Regards
  >
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  > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
  >
  > Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
  > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
  >
  > 
  >
  > *From: *"Jonathan Taylor"  >
  > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
  > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
  > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height
  > you would go before any swaying would really cause issues with
  > a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot above it on
  > two inch od pipe
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirPrism - Are You Liking It?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

following.  i think step one is determining are you actually running airprism.
i think we are lol

only a few subs deployed, averaging 150/150 on a 20 mhz channel

all subs are under a mile

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam Morris 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:33 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirPrism - Are You Liking It?


  Those of you who have/are using AirPrism radios...how do you like them?

  Thanks
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Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Salvador nailed me when i was talking about an af3x issue too.
awesome - i didn't even have to go to a forum lol
actually - wasn't even an issue.  just sharing performance data

  - Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma


  +1. On that note, Salvador has already contacted me about me AF5X complaint 
here last night!


  On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
<videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have zero problems with RMA at ubnt, im not sure what happen but i cant 
remember one time i have had problem getting a warranty swap completed. 


I do on the other hand think its funny that they don't want you to send 
your product back in packing peanuts but turn around send the product back to 
you in packing peanuts.


I have hate for packing peanuts.

Shawn C. Peppers
Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
866-680-8433 Toll Free
480-287-9960 Fax
http://www.video-direct.tv

On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:


  Hi Jan - 


  Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be happening.  We 
make it a point to have the RMA process be as smooth as possible, so if this is 
not happening, please send to me off-list and will look into this and have it 
improved.


  Thanks,
  Ben


  On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> 
wrote:

Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying for next day it 
still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except for emergencies and since most of 
the supply chains I've used in the past use a ubnt warehouse which then sends 
out 6 or more months old product.  Stuff we use a lot of, I have to keep in 
stock.  You can't expect customers to have to wait for service, not tolerable.  
The RMA that didn't happen had a test date of February 2016, unit tossed into 
recycle bin.


Jan V



On 08/10/2016 04:14 AM, Tim wrote:

  Off topic a bit:


  We purchase from a local supply house.
  Provides a local inventory for us.


  Do not favor Amazon approach.


  You pay a small premium but the benefits are great in supporting a 
local supply chain that is willing to work with you.






  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


  Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


  I think I'll not bother with RMA as ubnt requires too much BS to jump 
through.  Had an airrouter HP fail same day installed and description of 
failure was not adequate enough for them ( burned-up, too hot to touch, not 
working).  I'm a one man show and don't have hours of free time to satisfy 
them.  For stuff under $70 it's not worth my time to spend additional hours 
jumping through hoops after already spending money on truck rolls.  They know 
I'm a wisp with spare parts in a stockroom and yet they treat me like a onetime 
user with nothing better to do than game them.  I would go to a new vendor if 
it would be worth the cost and effort.  It's not worth the aggravation


  Jan V



      On 08/09/2016 11:34 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


So we were all over this prism line before it was really the prism 
line (mainly cause i've been drooling since seeing the prism demo in vegas last 
year)  we had purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios) to test 
with.  Had a hard time finding them around may - so  i actually tried Amazon.

Found several there - but apparently they were older units.

We attempted to install one but it had the "flash memory failure" 
the day we got it out of the box.

Attempted to RMA it - the date code was so old they denied the RMA.

So I looked up our amazon receipt, resubmitted the RMA (again - 
purchased from Amazon in like May) - and attached the invoice with the RMA 
submission.

UBNT approved the RMA.

I know I've seen complaints about "shelf life" of ubnt gear in the 
past and denied RMA's.  I don't think I've submitted an RMA in quite some time 
since all of that.  Happy to see UBNT heard us and addressed that.

Long live UBNT!

Thanks



 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

If it don't get zapped, i don't need to cycle it...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma


  You have to cycle your stock. FIFO.




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  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:38:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

   

  I've had stuff on shelves here for 4+ years - i had to replace a rocket that 
when i put it up  (two weeks ago) it was still on 5.2.1

  Not my fault the radio will be out of warranty if it gets zapped two weeks 
from nowit was just a result of being a well prepared wisp.

  Although I hate having stuff on the shelf that long - and frankly, I don't 
have much on the shelf anymore.

- Original Message - 
From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma


Hi Jan -  


Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be happening.  We 
make it a point to have the RMA process be as smooth as possible, so if this is 
not happening, please send to me off-list and will look into this and have it 
improved.


Thanks,
Ben


On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> 
wrote:

  Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying for next day it 
still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except for emergencies and since most of 
the supply chains I've used in the past use a ubnt warehouse which then sends 
out 6 or more months old product.  Stuff we use a lot of, I have to keep in 
stock.  You can't expect customers to have to wait for service, not tolerable.  
The RMA that didn't happen had a test date of February 2016, unit tossed into 
recycle bin.


  Jan V



  On 08/10/2016 04:14 AM, Tim wrote:

Off topic a bit:


We purchase from a local supply house.
Provides a local inventory for us.


Do not favor Amazon approach.


You pay a small premium but the benefits are great in supporting a 
local supply chain that is willing to work with you.






Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


I think I'll not bother with RMA as ubnt requires too much BS to jump 
through.  Had an airrouter HP fail same day installed and description of 
failure was not adequate enough for them ( burned-up, too hot to touch, not 
working).  I'm a one man show and don't have hours of free time to satisfy 
them.  For stuff under $70 it's not worth my time to spend additional hours 
jumping through hoops after already spending money on truck rolls.  They know 
I'm a wisp with spare parts in a stockroom and yet they treat me like a onetime 
user with nothing better to do than game them.  I would go to a new vendor if 
it would be worth the cost and effort.  It's not worth the aggravation


    Jan V



On 08/09/2016 11:34 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


  So we were all over this prism line before it was really the prism 
line (mainly cause i've been drooling since seeing the prism demo in vegas last 
year)  we had purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios) to test 
with.  Had a hard time finding them around may - so  i actually tried Amazon.

  Found several there - but apparently they were older units.

  We attempted to install one but it had the "flash memory failure" the 
day we got it out of the box.

  Attempted to RMA it - the date code was so old they denied the RMA.

  So I looked up our amazon receipt, resubmitted the RMA (again - 
purchased from Amazon in like May) - and attached the invoice with the RMA 
submission.

  UBNT approved the RMA.

  I know I've seen complaints about "shelf life" of ubnt gear in the 
past and denied RMA's.  I don't think I've submitted an RMA in quite some time 
since all of that.  Happy to see UBNT heard us and addressed that.

  Long live UBNT!

  Thanks



   

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Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I've had stuff on shelves here for 4+ years - i had to replace a rocket that 
when i put it up  (two weeks ago) it was still on 5.2.1

Not my fault the radio will be out of warranty if it gets zapped two weeks from 
nowit was just a result of being a well prepared wisp.

Although I hate having stuff on the shelf that long - and frankly, I don't have 
much on the shelf anymore.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma


  Hi Jan - 


  Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be happening.  We 
make it a point to have the RMA process be as smooth as possible, so if this is 
not happening, please send to me off-list and will look into this and have it 
improved.


  Thanks,
  Ben


  On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> 
wrote:

Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying for next day it 
still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except for emergencies and since most of 
the supply chains I've used in the past use a ubnt warehouse which then sends 
out 6 or more months old product.  Stuff we use a lot of, I have to keep in 
stock.  You can't expect customers to have to wait for service, not tolerable.  
The RMA that didn't happen had a test date of February 2016, unit tossed into 
recycle bin.


Jan V



On 08/10/2016 04:14 AM, Tim wrote:

  Off topic a bit:


  We purchase from a local supply house.
  Provides a local inventory for us.


  Do not favor Amazon approach.


  You pay a small premium but the benefits are great in supporting a local 
supply chain that is willing to work with you.






  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


  Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


  I think I'll not bother with RMA as ubnt requires too much BS to jump 
through.  Had an airrouter HP fail same day installed and description of 
failure was not adequate enough for them ( burned-up, too hot to touch, not 
working).  I'm a one man show and don't have hours of free time to satisfy 
them.  For stuff under $70 it's not worth my time to spend additional hours 
jumping through hoops after already spending money on truck rolls.  They know 
I'm a wisp with spare parts in a stockroom and yet they treat me like a onetime 
user with nothing better to do than game them.  I would go to a new vendor if 
it would be worth the cost and effort.  It's not worth the aggravation


  Jan V



  On 08/09/2016 11:34 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


So we were all over this prism line before it was really the prism line 
(mainly cause i've been drooling since seeing the prism demo in vegas last 
year)  we had purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios) to test 
with.  Had a hard time finding them around may - so  i actually tried Amazon.

Found several there - but apparently they were older units.

We attempted to install one but it had the "flash memory failure" the 
day we got it out of the box.

Attempted to RMA it - the date code was so old they denied the RMA.

So I looked up our amazon receipt, resubmitted the RMA (again - 
purchased from Amazon in like May) - and attached the invoice with the RMA 
submission.

UBNT approved the RMA.

I know I've seen complaints about "shelf life" of ubnt gear in the past 
and denied RMA's.  I don't think I've submitted an RMA in quite some time since 
all of that.  Happy to see UBNT heard us and addressed that.

Long live UBNT!

Thanks



 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] [WISPA Members] kudos to ubnt - rma

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

some seller on amazonwho had probably bought them up then resold them to 
make a buck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: memb...@wispa.org 
  Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] kudos to ubnt - rma


  You bought them from Amazon...?




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  On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:34 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


So we were all over this prism line before it was really the prism line 
(mainly cause i've been drooling since seeing the prism demo in vegas last 
year)  we had purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios) to test 
with.  Had a hard time finding them around may - so  i actually tried Amazon.

Found several there - but apparently they were older units.

We attempted to install one but it had the "flash memory failure" the day 
we got it out of the box.

Attempted to RMA it - the date code was so old they denied the RMA.

So I looked up our amazon receipt, resubmitted the RMA (again - purchased 
from Amazon in like May) - and attached the invoice with the RMA submission.

UBNT approved the RMA.

I know I've seen complaints about "shelf life" of ubnt gear in the past and 
denied RMA's.  I don't think I've submitted an RMA in quite some time since all 
of that.  Happy to see UBNT heard us and addressed that.

Long live UBNT!

Thanks

 

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[Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

So we were all over this prism line before it was really the prism line (mainly 
cause i've been drooling since seeing the prism demo in vegas last year)  we 
had purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios) to test with.  Had 
a hard time finding them around may - so  i actually tried Amazon.

Found several there - but apparently they were older units.

We attempted to install one but it had the "flash memory failure" the day we 
got it out of the box.

Attempted to RMA it - the date code was so old they denied the RMA.

So I looked up our amazon receipt, resubmitted the RMA (again - purchased from 
Amazon in like May) - and attached the invoice with the RMA submission.

UBNT approved the RMA.

I know I've seen complaints about "shelf life" of ubnt gear in the past and 
denied RMA's.  I don't think I've submitted an RMA in quite some time since all 
of that.  Happy to see UBNT heard us and addressed that.

Long live UBNT!

Thanks

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Config file blues

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

never did figure out what the password wasor rather why the web GUI didn't 
work - but i was able to get into the radio using SSH.  Once there, i just 
reset to factory defaults.  Will return this one back to the shelf now


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Config file blues



  what a suggestionespecially now that i've swapped the radio out lol
  thank you :)

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Hoppes 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Config file blues


Try only using the first eight characters of your password. 

On Jul 31, 2016, at 18:01, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:




  Has anyone ever used a config file to restore a config to a new radio and 
it botchs the password somehow?


  I lost an ethernet port in a storm yesterday ...when replacing the radio 
and used to config file radio came up and works but I can't log in to the radio


  (Actually that's not entirely true the access point used a  DFS Channel 
and yes that was not enabled)  I change the access point to a non DFS channel 
and the link came up


  Tried the reset button but guess what reset button is disabledper 
config


  Going to find another radio to swap it out with Since I have to climb the 
tower again anyway (a 2nd radio was dead that worked last night) 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] airprism

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I have run it at both 67% and at 50%.   

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Curnutt 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airprism


  Jay,  What is the Duty Cycle of the airFiber3X that is in the test path?  If 
it is set to 67 or 75% that would account for the asynchronous of the speed 
test.


  Phil


  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


Hmmm,  I think I got jipped

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Curnutt 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airprism


  The Prism has a different case, metal rather then plastic, and  a GPS 
connector.  On the interface Dashboard page and System page the Device Model is 
listed as R5AC-Prism, rather then R5AC-PTMP (or PTP). 


  Phil


  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:13 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

If you toast if for 5 mins, you get the sweet smell of cinnamon.  樂 


Good question Jay, I would like to know this also.  I don't have one 
yet but perhaps there is a different Version Board number on the radio?


  


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On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:56 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  so aside from the label on the case, how do you know if you have an 
airprism 5 ghz ac rocket?
  I've just launched one and am seeing 147/147 on 20 mhz channels - - 
is that how i know?
  i don't see anything on the interface that shows it.

  Additionally when running speedtests back to the internet (over a 
sector, then through a airfiber 3 ghz
  backhaul) i'm seeing half the upload as the download.

  I am using a DFS channel - - but since the radio is literally .4 
miles away i'm still coming in in the -40s/
  -50s

  fun to play with new toys ;)




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Re: [Ubnt_users] airprism

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Hmmm,  I think I got jipped

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Curnutt 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airprism


  The Prism has a different case, metal rather then plastic, and  a GPS 
connector.  On the interface Dashboard page and System page the Device Model is 
listed as R5AC-Prism, rather then R5AC-PTMP (or PTP).


  Phil


  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:13 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you toast if for 5 mins, you get the sweet smell of cinnamon.  樂


Good question Jay, I would like to know this also.  I don't have one yet 
but perhaps there is a different Version Board number on the radio?


  


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
540-908-3993



On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:56 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  so aside from the label on the case, how do you know if you have an 
airprism 5 ghz ac rocket?
  I've just launched one and am seeing 147/147 on 20 mhz channels - - is 
that how i know?
  i don't see anything on the interface that shows it.

  Additionally when running speedtests back to the internet (over a sector, 
then through a airfiber 3 ghz
  backhaul) i'm seeing half the upload as the download.

  I am using a DFS channel - - but since the radio is literally .4 miles 
away i'm still coming in in the -40s/
  -50s

  fun to play with new toys ;)




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[Ubnt_users] airprism

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

so aside from the label on the case, how do you know if you have an airprism 5 
ghz ac rocket?
I've just launched one and am seeing 147/147 on 20 mhz channels - - is that how 
i know?
i don't see anything on the interface that shows it.

Additionally when running speedtests back to the internet (over a sector, then 
through a airfiber 3 ghz
backhaul) i'm seeing half the upload as the download.

I am using a DFS channel - - but since the radio is literally .4 miles away i'm 
still coming in in the -40s/
-50s

fun to play with new toys ;)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Config file blues

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

what a suggestionespecially now that i've swapped the radio out lol
thank you :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Config file blues


  Try only using the first eight characters of your password. 

  On Jul 31, 2016, at 18:01, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:




Has anyone ever used a config file to restore a config to a new radio and 
it botchs the password somehow?


I lost an ethernet port in a storm yesterday ...when replacing the radio 
and used to config file radio came up and works but I can't log in to the radio


(Actually that's not entirely true the access point used a  DFS Channel and 
yes that was not enabled)  I change the access point to a non DFS channel and 
the link came up


Tried the reset button but guess what reset button is disabledper config


Going to find another radio to swap it out with Since I have to climb the 
tower again anyway (a 2nd radio was dead that worked last night) 


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[Ubnt_users] Config file blues

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Has anyone ever used a config file to restore a config to a new radio and it 
botchs the password somehow?

I lost an ethernet port in a storm yesterday ...when replacing the radio and 
used to config file radio came up and works but I can't log in to the radio

(Actually that's not entirely true the access point used a  DFS Channel and yes 
that was not enabled)  I change the access point to a non DFS channel and the 
link came up

Tried the reset button but guess what reset button is disabledper config

Going to find another radio to swap it out with Since I have to climb the tower 
again anyway (a 2nd radio was dead that worked last night) 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

oh, and it is raining.  like - pouring
so good test :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  Signal results?

  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  On Jul 27, 2016 6:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for 
Danny.  Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 
GHz would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips" <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have 
AF24HD but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its 
running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I 
am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just 
barrel through it or is it going to be not usable. 


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have 
used it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net 
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" <dtay...@legacyinternet.com> 
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it 
was running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor  
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
<highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option. 


  Thanks

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

still tweaking.  mid 50s it looks like.
40 mhz channel
getting 6x modulation and 150/150

now i might should go read the manual.

i haven't set anything up on advanced yet
* automatic power backoff
* enhanced mimo

guessing we can get even more out of it


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  Signal results?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 6:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for 
Danny.  Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 
GHz would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips" <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have 
AF24HD but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its 
running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I 
am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just 
barrel through it or is it going to be not usable. 


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have 
used it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net 
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
540-908-3993



On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" <dtay...@legacyinternet.com> 
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it 
was running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor  
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
<highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option. 


  Thanks

  Alex Phillips
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for Danny.  
Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 GHz 
would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips"  wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have AF24HD 
but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its running 
fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I am in 
an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just barrel 
through it or is it going to be not usable.


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have used 
it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
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  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was 
running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor 
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips  
wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option.


  Thanks

  Alex Phillips
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  HighSpeedLink.net
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 10F

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We have a radio that does this as well.  There are two fms at the sitebut 
maybe 5 ubnt radiosOnly one does it 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 10F
Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 6:44 AM

The nearest FM is about a mile away. The only thing on that grain leg is WISP 
stuff.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP
From: "Jesse DuPont" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:56:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 10F





Is there FM on the site? We'd have this happen to NanoBridges and
Rocket M5s on an FM site (it was just a 10KW) every time it started
to rain or wet snow. Reboot invariably back to 100 Mbps, even if it
was still raining. Sounds like ESD combined with the harmonics of
the FM carrier.

















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On 7/20/16 8:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:





What would cause a radio to go to 10F, but
a reboot to bring it back to 100F for some amount of time (all
day, all week). My experience with bad cable\ends\PoE has it
staying 10F\10H after the reboot, not going back to 100F.





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Re: [Ubnt_users] 5 ghz airprism - reports

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ok.  I had seen on ubnt forums where certain v8's didn't do as well bandwidth 
wise as, say, beta 12.
i'll load the latest v8.  thanks!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Curnutt 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 5 ghz airprism - reports


  Concur with Peter.  We are running 8.14beta and running nicely.


  Phil


  On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Peter Kranz <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote:

Run the latest v8 you can get your hands on..



-PK



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:49 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 5 ghz airprism - reports





Those of you tinkering with this, what is the best firmware to run 
currently?

What firmware was shown on the big screen demo last November?

was that 8.x beta?



I just read a thread where bandwidth was dropping and a reboot fixed it.

what known issues are out there and w/ what firmware version?



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[Ubnt_users] 5 ghz airprism

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Those of you tinkering with this, what is the best firmware to run currently?
What firmware was shown on the big screen demo last November?
was that 8.x beta?

Thanks in advance ;)

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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

yes, that is what i am thinking.  there is a row of trees that might annoy me.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Salvador Bertenbreiter ; Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  A 2X would eliminate you from being able to do ptmp 2.4 to your customers.  I 
would do 3X and retain the valuable ptmp spectrum.




  Josh Luthman
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  On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Salvador Bertenbreiter via Ubnt_users 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

Hi Jay,
If you have an airMax M2 device you can run airView and check how clean is 
2.4GHz, if there's spectrum available I would definitely go with the AF 2X


Thanks,


Salvador


On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


  Anyone using this?  Looking to go about a mile through light trees.  
Maybe a mile and a half.
  I know I was able to get upper 50s on 2.4 signal on a previous 
installation.

  I'd like to get the 300 meg.  I need as much bandwidth as possible.

  Any reports would be fantastic.

  2.4 is an option too if I must...




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Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We had considered using the 3.65 dishdual slant is certainly a good idea.
Heck, that might even be pretty good for 2.4 ghz


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jon Langeler 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] airfiber 3


  I've had success doing it 2-3 times. Even with M series radios in the mix. 
Use dual slant for sure.


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.

  On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:



Anyone using this?  Looking to go about a mile through light trees.  Maybe 
a mile and a half.
I know I was able to get upper 50s on 2.4 signal on a previous installation.

I'd like to get the 300 meg.  I need as much bandwidth as possible.

Any reports would be fantastic.

2.4 is an option too if I must...


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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I can tell you CTI will outsource their netsapiens platform (if that is what 
you are asking)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:00 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP


  If you are planning on using these phones, who are you going to use for SIP?


  Also, is anyone planning to sell to subs? What setup are you planning on 
using?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

have not played with them directly myself but may

  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP


  Yes, that is one of the things I am asking pretend you are talking to 
someone who is asking What do I need to go from an analog dial to a digital 
tone dial phone. 


  I would assume the phones will not work with all platforms, and others may be 
more suited.


  On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


I can tell you CTI will outsource their netsapiens platform (if that is 
what you are asking)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:00 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP


  If you are planning on using these phones, who are you going to use for 
SIP? 


  Also, is anyone planning to sell to subs? What setup are you planning on 
using?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

just catching up on this threadreminds self tho that we (the US) are not 
their primary market.
then again, we are a pretty large market...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  They have my e-mail address. They have the e-mail addresses for all of us at 
The Brothers WISP. It's not like we're idiots. We'll gladly tell them what we 
want and what they should\shouldn't do. They haven't taken us up on that offer.




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  From: Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

   
  It surprises me that they did not ask wispa.  They are on this group.  Who 
better to tell them what wisps are looking for.



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time.




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From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that over a 
year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to their faces) NO, we do 
not want this.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.

  It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to compete 
with the Geo Metro.




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  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only hosted in the 
cloud.

  How could UBNT go this long without a functional control platform only to 
fuck it up this badly?




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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

you really think the FCC needed this in order to mine  ?  Bwhwhaha.a.a.a.
what extension is the NSA from the FCC? lol


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Reynolds 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I wonder if it's possible for the FCC to come in and say Before you removed 
compliance test there was a bunch of compliance test gear out there running 
illegally. We'd like to 'audit' your cloud and see how many people are still 
doing that... for your own good.

  Probably unlikely, but with that level of data collection - who knows. A lot 
of things become possible.

  /tin_foil_hat

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 12/01/2014 04:15 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

There were several of us in the Alpha that told em it's a bad idea. They
wouldn't even acknowledge the fact we didn't want it. Al requests for a
local versions were ignored and not responded too.

My theory is Data Mining for investor relations.



-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kees H
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:48 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Oh and their cloud solution does not need to be hacked.  What about a
disgruntled ubnt employee changing all the ssid's, logins and passwords of
all the connected cloud solution radios.  Do I hear Taps playing?



Most ISPs in general like our management network to stay... private.
These are probably the same people who run everything in one broadcast
domain.

As I said on the forums, if my network AC server gets hacked, that's
my problem. If their cloud solution has an exploit in it, then its
everyone's problem.

On 12/1/2014 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
They have my e-mail address. They have the e-mail addresses for all
of us at The Brothers WISP. It's not like we're idiots. We'll gladly
tell them what we want and what they should\shouldn't do. They
haven't taken us up on that offer.



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t-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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*From: *Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group.
Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for.

- Original Message -
*From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time.



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*From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that
over a year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to
their faces) NO, we do not want this.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com

On 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I don't know how anyone could read their target market this
badly.

It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to
compete with the Geo Metro.



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*From: *Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
*Subject: *[Ubnt_users] New airControl

It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only
hosted in the cloud.

How could UBNT go this long without a functional control
platform only to fuck it up this badly?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
  

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend reverses every 
what, 10 years?
so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server less cloud 
again?

some things belong in the cloud.  most things do not.

(my take on things)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Barnes 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based 
management tool. 

   

  However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and not 
having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore said that we 
would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind of thought about 
a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.

   

  Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest 
market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.  I 
expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms worldwide.  I 
assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud based. Everything from 
AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and even thermostat controlled 
from the cloud. 

   

  The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is moving 
this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs and 
converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote monitoring and 
control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to Servers and 
workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work load but sees now 
he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less control.  All he does 
now is move wires and swap equipment. 

   

  All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in the 
cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think lots of 
WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their networks and 
we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend.

   

  Steven Barnes

  GM

  PCSWIN.com

  Howard LLC.

   

  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

   

  Well right. That's why I said few and not none.



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  From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
  To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

  It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the public beta today.

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

It was announced today, so few are familiar.



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From: Robert Andrews nos...@avantwireless.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that 
point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what is 
the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around )...



On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection to 
the cloud.

  (to be fair)

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your 
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are on your 
cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess what can be 
forced to update for compliance with or without your say so... Hm  On 
12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:Why would 
I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of myradios?  Don't 
they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?But it's CLOUD. 
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[Ubnt_users] bad chain on rocket - why isn't this working

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Have a situation where i have a bad chain on a rocket.  Usually can swap to 
MCS7 and send the same data out both sides but today, they'll link up, but they 
won't pass any traffic and won't even show a CCQ #.

What am I doing wrong?  I've unchecked auto from both sides and set them both 
for MCS7.

Thanks.

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