Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS antenna

[Kees H.]

Which begs the question are all UBNT GPS antennas the same and 
interchangeable?


-Original Message- 
From: Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:40 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] GPS antenna

Anybody know of a replacement GPS antenna for UBNT 2AC units?


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming

[Kees H.]

Yes

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

Firewall tho


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

  The WAN port shouldn't be accessible from the WAN.




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  From: "Kees H." 
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:11:07 PM 

  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 


  Yes, indoor Wi-Fi, manageable from the wan port.



  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:25 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

  For an indoor WiFi router or what?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Kees H.  wrote:

I guess I will be trying out MT product line.

Any recommendations?


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

It shouldn't be accessible from the WAN port.  ;-)




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From: "Kees H." 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:34:33 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

Now that the AirGateways LRs are EOL.

How does one program the AirCube from the WAN port?

Don't tell me to program it wirelessly, and that the password and WPA2 keys 
are on the bottom.  Those are so small I can not read them and I will not 
spend the time to go the wireless route to program.  Whatever happened to 
ubnt & ubnt as login and password.

Someone with too much time on their hands decided how to set up this router 
with out asking the wisps what they needed?

Unless this cube is as easy to program as the AirGateway ( from the wan 
port) I will have to find another router that will program from the wan 
port.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming

[Kees H.]

Yes, indoor Wi-Fi, manageable from the wan port.



From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:25 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

For an indoor WiFi router or what?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Kees H.  wrote:

  I guess I will be trying out MT product line.

  Any recommendations?


  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:59 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

  It shouldn't be accessible from the WAN port.  ;-)




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  From: "Kees H." 
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:34:33 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

  Now that the AirGateways LRs are EOL.

  How does one program the AirCube from the WAN port?

  Don't tell me to program it wirelessly, and that the password and WPA2 keys 
  are on the bottom.  Those are so small I can not read them and I will not 
  spend the time to go the wireless route to program.  Whatever happened to 
  ubnt & ubnt as login and password.

  Someone with too much time on their hands decided how to set up this router 
  with out asking the wisps what they needed?

  Unless this cube is as easy to program as the AirGateway ( from the wan 
  port) I will have to find another router that will program from the wan 
  port.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming

[Kees H.]

I guess I will be trying out MT product line.

Any recommendations?


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

It shouldn't be accessible from the WAN port.  ;-)




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From: "Kees H." 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:34:33 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming 

Now that the AirGateways LRs are EOL.

How does one program the AirCube from the WAN port?

Don't tell me to program it wirelessly, and that the password and WPA2 keys 
are on the bottom.  Those are so small I can not read them and I will not 
spend the time to go the wireless route to program.  Whatever happened to 
ubnt & ubnt as login and password.

Someone with too much time on their hands decided how to set up this router 
with out asking the wisps what they needed?

Unless this cube is as easy to program as the AirGateway ( from the wan 
port) I will have to find another router that will program from the wan 
port.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirCube programming

[Kees H.]

So I spend the bloody time to one handed enter the passcode 6Eia3gJR

What ever happened to user friendly?




Now that the AirGateways LRs are EOL.

How does one program the AirCube from the WAN port?

Don't tell me to program it wirelessly, and that the password and WPA2 keys
are on the bottom.  Those are so small I can not read them and I will not
spend the time to go the wireless route to program.  Whatever happened to
ubnt & ubnt as login and password.

Someone with too much time on their hands decided how to set up this router
with out asking the wisps what they needed?

Unless this cube is as easy to program as the AirGateway ( from the wan
port) I will have to find another router that will program from the wan
port.

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[Ubnt_users] AirCube programming

[Kees H.]

Now that the AirGateways LRs are EOL.

How does one program the AirCube from the WAN port?

Don't tell me to program it wirelessly, and that the password and WPA2 keys 
are on the bottom.  Those are so small I can not read them and I will not 
spend the time to go the wireless route to program.  Whatever happened to 
ubnt & ubnt as login and password.

Someone with too much time on their hands decided how to set up this router 
with out asking the wisps what they needed?

Unless this cube is as easy to program as the AirGateway ( from the wan 
port) I will have to find another router that will program from the wan 
port.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs

[Kees H.]

Ben, with all due respect.  I do not see that BOLD statement that Steve 
requested.

And for wisps requesting this for ptp links.  We are a small wisp.  We would 
never buy only 2 for a just a ptp link.  Yes we do have some ptp links, but the 
ratio of ptmp v ptp is maybe 1  -200.  Even as a small wisp we stock 5 packs 
for all our usage.  Why would any wisp request a 2 pack for that?

And yes, when I found that the new PB 2 ACs that just arrived came in 2 packs I 
cancelled my order.


From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 7:48 AM
To: Steve Barnes 
Cc: b...@ubnt.com ; Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs

Hi Steve -  

No question the 2-pack was poor decision.  This was never designed for retail, 
but can definitely see it looks like it with the packaging.  The 2-pack was due 
to many using for quick ptp links with their WISP.  Had a lot of request for 
selling as singles or 2-pack for this purpose.  The 5-pack should never have 
been dropped and as mentioned here is shipping again.

We have a ton in development for the WISP community and looking forward to it.

Regards,
Ben

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

  This is again another time that UBNT eyes have moved off the WISP target and 
moved to the Retail space.  The reason for 2 in a box is simple if you’re 
selling to retail small businesses.  You would sell these as a link for 2 
buildings.  Therefor you need a 2 pack.  If you were selling them on Amazon or 
B a 2 pack is perfect.   

  I know that the 5 packs are coming back eventually.

  Ben Moore and James Craig.   This is my request to Ubiquity to make a BOLD 
statement in some way that shows your commitment to the WISP community and your 
appreciation to those of us that have stuck by your side through years of "soon 
GPS", Elevate, 2-pack CPEs, poor supply chain planning and many other goofy 
decisions you have made over the years that have made us defend out position to 
stay with UBNT as our Primary Vendor.  It is time for a little appreciation.

  Steve Barnes
  Wireless Operations Manager
  New Lisbon Broadband
  NLBC.COM
  PCSWIN.COM
  765-584-2288 ext:1101

  -Original Message-
  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf 
Of Kees H.
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:42 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

  then he should fire the guy who came up with the 2 packs.


  -Original Message-
  From: G. Nicholas
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:19 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

  Troy,

  Regarding personnel change at the top highly unlikely. Robert Pera still owns 
about 70% of the stock and if you look at the 600 Million in stock repurchases 
the company recently did so he could sell back some of his shares to Treasury 
stock without diluting his ownership control to get the cash he needs to buy up 
the minority shares of Grizzlies BB team, Robert is still clearly in control.



  - Original Message -
  From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
  Sent: 8/12/2018 3:50:36 PM
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

  > Lots of things in play when you miss the $20 million call for expected
  quarter results.   Investors want answers and blood for lost value, so 
timing is perfect, but I bet there may be some personal change at the top of 
UBNT too.

  Troy Gibson
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
   Original message From: Mathew Howard 
  Date: 8/12/18  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium The fact 
that they did this just a couple weeks before their next report makes me 
suspect that service provider revenue fell even more this quarter.

  
  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Seth Mattinen [se...@rollernet.us]
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 1:14 PM
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

  On 8/12/18 11:01 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
  > People didn’t buy. Move on. Good months and bad. Don’t like it?  
  > Stop investing. Any other questions?
  >


  Previous quarter: We'll see at least $20 million in this sector by next 
quarter!

  This quarter: Uh, actually we didn't see any of that money, but it was our 
competitor's fault so we sued them.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

[Kees H.]

then he should fire the guy who came up with the 2 packs.


-Original Message- 
From: G. Nicholas
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:19 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

Troy,

Regarding personnel change at the top highly unlikely. Robert Pera still 
owns
about 70% of the stock and if you look at the 600 Million in stock
repurchases the company recently did so he could sell back some of his 
shares
to Treasury stock without diluting his ownership control to get the cash he
needs to buy up the minority shares of Grizzlies BB team, Robert is still
clearly in control.



- Original Message -
From: Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
Sent: 8/12/2018 3:50:36 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

> Lots of things in play when you miss the $20 million call for expected
quarter results.   Investors want answers and blood for lost value, so
timing is perfect, but I bet there may be some personal change at the top of
UBNT too.

Troy Gibson
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Mathew Howard 
Date: 8/12/18  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
The fact that they did this just a couple weeks before their next report
makes me suspect that service provider revenue fell even more this quarter.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf
of Seth Mattinen [se...@rollernet.us]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 1:14 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

On 8/12/18 11:01 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> People didn’t buy. Move on. Good months and bad. Don’t like it?  Stop
> investing. Any other questions?
>


Previous quarter: We'll see at least $20 million in this sector by next
quarter!

This quarter: Uh, actually we didn't see any of that money, but it was
our competitor's fault so we sued them.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Warning UBNT did it again

[Kees H.]

They are the same length.  The 300 bracket moves them further back to make them 
look shorter.  But when replacing the PBM5 with the PB5 AC Gen2 you can just 
use the existing bracket.
I suspect that the 620 are also the same length, but can not confirm that.

From: Phil Curnutt 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:14 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Warning UBNT did it again

400’s are longer then 300, but are other wise interchangeable.

Phil

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:09 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Please create e-mails from scratch instead of replying to existing threads 
and changing the content.




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  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:29:26 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Warning UBNT did it again


  This morning I got a call from my distributor that the PB 2 AC-400 that I 
  had on order for a long time, finally came in.

  Not wanting to get burned again (as with the PB5 ACs), I asked how many to a 
  case.  He came back with 2 radios per case.  So I cancelled the order.

  UBNT when will you learn that wisps are your market and not the occasional 
  end user.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Warning UBNT did it again

[Kees H.]

is there a different between 300 and 400 in the horn itself?  (other than name?)

From: Phil Curnutt 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:54 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Warning UBNT did it again

You can buy 400 horns from the Ubnt Store, qty. of 5 at $75 each.  But, no 
300's or 620"s.  I asked Collin at Streakwave and he said he thought the 
minimum order for any of them was 200, so they don't stock them.  Guess Ubnt 
wants it to be worth there time to make them up. 

Phil

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:33 AM, alex phillips  wrote:

  I would like to follow this up with, can I just buy the Horns? 

  It would be great if we could just buy the parts we need.

  Alex Phillips
  CEO and General Manager
  RBNS.net
  HighSpeedLink.net
  540-908-3993



  On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:29 AM Kees H.  wrote:

This morning I got a call from my distributor that the PB 2 AC-400 that I 
had on order for a long time, finally came in.

Not wanting to get burned again (as with the PB5 ACs), I asked how many to 
a 
case.  He came back with 2 radios per case.  So I cancelled the order.

UBNT when will you learn that wisps are your market and not the occasional 
end user.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] EdgePoint and PowerBeam AC

[Kees H.]

edgepoint set up as switch or router?


From: Clay Stewart 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 4:56 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] EdgePoint and PowerBeam AC

Having a Friday 300ft hissy fit. 

2 different AC Gen2 PowerBeams, 2 new cables, 2 different 24vdc EdgePoint ports 
(5 and 6), get 1000Mbps connection with tx rx counts, but ni layer 2 or 3 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

[Kees H.]

How high AGL are you putting those Cambium APs?

From: Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:01 PM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

I believe the perpetrator of that job had OCD. Glad my techs who are slobs 
didn’t perform that mod.

 

Paul Tackett, COO

406-284-3174x105

p...@latmt.com

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tommy Adams
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 17:16
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

 

That is fantastic. You even retained the little plastic cap on the end of the 
antenna. 

 



Tommy A.

Digitex.com

 

817.558.6230 V

817.558.1204 F


On May 31, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Tommy Adams  wrote:

  Did you set your target signal strength?  They should automatically back off 
the power. 

   

  

  Tommy A.

  Digitex.com

   

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  817.558.1204 F


  On May 31, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users 
 wrote:

Impressive. We found that if there was LOS at that distance, we had to cut 
the yagi down to a nub as the signal was too hot and performance was terrible!

 

Paul Tackett, COO

(406)284-3174x105

p...@latmt.com



 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tommy Adams
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 15:10
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

 

First picture is from the tower.  You can see we are not that high.  The 
customer pictures are .3 of a mile from the tower and downhill.  As you can see 
in both pictures there is zero line of sight.  You can also see that these are 
the worse modem placements being 900 MHz and shooting over a metal roof.  They 
work beautifully.  

 

 

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817.558.1204 Fax

 

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:19 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

 

Thanks again Tommy! I'd love to see a picture of how thick the trees are!

 

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Tommy Adams  wrote:

  Now ours is not loaded up too heavily, only 12 clients.  We sell every 
speed we offer which is up to 16 meg for home users.  Most of the clients on 
this tower ore on our 5 or 8 meg package.  Looking at the graphs, this sector 
is hitting 25 meg frequently, but there is about 60-70 meg of channel 
available, we are running in 20 MHz.  Prior to this, we could only sell people 
our $30-$50 packages and they complained about the speed.  I see our one last 
UBNT 900 top out at 6-8 meg every night with about the same number of people on 
it.  We are buying a couple of SM’s a month and when we get enough for all the 
customers will do a quick change out of the tower and customers to the PMP 
gear.  

   

  Overall experience with the PMP 900 is really good.  We tried it in 10 
MHz and it worked great then thought why not try 20 MHz and it still did great. 
 We have a lot of frequency hopping electric meters and gas wells in our area.  
I think placement is a big thing too.  I would not put this gear on a water 
tower next to the major highway.  Not saying it would not work, but the if you 
can see the horizon, then the frequency can hear the horizon.  We use this gear 
is a bowl of hills and trees.  In fact we did not even mount it way above the 
trees.  It is only 20 feet above the trees with down tilt.  Our furthest 
customer through what we consider thick trees in north Texas is about ½ mile.  
We do have some customers a little over a mile away as well that could not get 
a clean LOS to the same tower.  The gear is a real learning experience and not 
terribly friendly to work with.  That being said, if a customer calls in and is 
experience issues, we do not even ask them to reboot the PMP SM.  We start with 
their router and 95% of the time this resolves their issue.  

   

   

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  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org  On 
Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:51 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

   

  Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 
900s? I dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking 
these types of decisions.

   

  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams  wrote:

All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we 

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

[Kees H.]

Same here, makes it easier to make it through the downturns in the economy

From: RickG 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:04 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman  wrote:

  Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB 
able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. 


  $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive lease). 


  10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, but 
not 'juicy'. :)

  20 customers at $70  = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month (per 
sector). Now we're talking. 


  We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can 
beat the interference from CPS Energy. 


  Get better lease terms and profit goes up.

  Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. $199 
seems reasonable if no other service is available.
  Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive ARPU 
up). 


  Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector 
with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW)
  Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. 

  And the beat goes on. 


  $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make that 
deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

  But that's just me. :) 


  YMMV.

  JP 


  On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote
  > CAMBIUM: 
  > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 = 
TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ 
$50/month = $500/month 
  > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months 
  > 
  > UBNT: 
  > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor 
$600 = TOTAL: $3600 
  > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month 
  > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months 
  > 
  > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs is 
much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) 
  > 
  > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman  wrote: 
  > 

> 
> You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come talk 
about cost. :) 
> 
> 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. 
> 
> JP 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote 
> 

> > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote: 
> > 

  > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. 
  > > 
  > > Josh Luthman 
  > > Office: 937-552-2340 
  > > Direct: 937-552-2343 
  > > 1100 Wayne St 
  > > Suite 1337 
  > > Troy, OH 45373 
  > > 
  > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart 
 wrote: 
  > > 

> > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in 
foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower.  We have a bit of hill 
which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to 
deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, Terrain 
Terrain... and height. 
> > 
> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as 
opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. 
> > 
> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have 
customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out.  That is 
enough time to recover investment and make something. 
> > 
> > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, 
not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding 
which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases.  
> > 
> > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market 
where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, 
we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart 
 wrote: 
> > 

  > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it 
work in foliage areas.  
  > > 
  > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions 
 wrote: 
  > > 

> > 
> > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life 
experience input. 
> > 
> > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? 
> > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? 
> > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? 
> > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about 
one mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 
to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? 
> > 

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Why are you shipping me air?

[Kees H.]

Thank you Thank you Thank you

Now can we work towards 10 packs?
Also, since we will be replacing PBE –5 with ACs for which we only need the 
radio, can you sell the radios by themselves in 10 packs?


From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 3:34 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Why are you shipping me air?

Agree, hear you loud and clear...These are being moved ASAP to 5-pack.  
Unfortunately will take a couple of months to get into channel, but this has 
already been implemented.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

  

  Why oh why?

  Just ordered 10 PBE-5AC-GEN2-US UBNT Powerbeam M5 Gen2 AC

  So I expect to get 2 boxes 5 each just as the PBE-5 are packaged.  

  BUT NOOO.  They now stick 2 radios in the same size box as the PBE-5

  So now I pay 2.5 X the shipping and have to discard even more cardboard.

  UBNT who is your biggest customer?  The end user or the WISP?

  Mind you we have over 1000 radios in the field and in our territory there are 
maybe 3 end user links.  So why do you package your equipment geared to 
endusers?  For me put 10 radios and adapters in one box and 10 dishes in 
another box with the hardware and you make me very happy.  And don’t send me 
instructions flyers.   


  

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[Ubnt_users] UBNT Why are you shipping me air?

[Kees H.]

Why oh why?

Just ordered 10 PBE-5AC-GEN2-US UBNT Powerbeam M5 Gen2 AC

So I expect to get 2 boxes 5 each just as the PBE-5 are packaged.  

BUT NOOO.  They now stick 2 radios in the same size box as the PBE-5

So now I pay 2.5 X the shipping and have to discard even more cardboard.

UBNT who is your biggest customer?  The end user or the WISP?

Mind you we have over 1000 radios in the field and in our territory there are 
maybe 3 end user links.  So why do you package your equipment geared to 
endusers?  For me put 10 radios and adapters in one box and 10 dishes in 
another box with the hardware and you make me very happy.  And don’t send me 
instructions flyers.   


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Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

[Kees H.]

thank you

From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

SD-500L-48 

http://meanwellusa.com/productPdf.aspx?i=62#1

Only gotchas with these, you have to be careful not to exceed the output 
over-volt protection voltage or they will shut down and not come back on unless 
power cycled.  This would potentially happen if you had a lot of devices on 
tower and you where running the voltage adjustment very high.  This is a 
protection feature of the power supply to protect your equipment in the event 
something drawing a lot of amperage on the output circuit all the sudden dies.  
This sudden event would cause the voltage to increase and could potentially fry 
a sensitive piece of equipment. 


:: // Shawn Peppers 
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:


  Do you have a model# handy? 


  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:55 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

  They also make this same thing in dc to dc


  :: // Shawn Peppers 
  :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

  On Mar 21, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:


I suspect that it could be a problem for DC-only sites

From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:37 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

Why in the world would you not want to hit the thing with exactly 50 volts? 
 Get a variable voltage output power supply and once your under load then 
adjust respectfully.  Meanwell makes a $50 power supply that does thisthe 
older versions where not defective technicallyits just no one knew how to 
properly power the device and properly account for voltage drops.


:: // Shawn Peppers 
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

On Mar 21, 2018, at 1:45 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:


  fyi the early versions (up until just recently) the input voltage range 
did not match the spec. The newer date codes match the spec. I cannot remember 
exactly but I think the early ones cut off at about 45-46v while the fixed 
models are about 39?

  On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

Can it run a PTP820?



-Original Message-
From: Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

I use this exact setup on all my FM towers.  Works awesome...although i
still put them in a metal enclosure and put the cat5 in MC up on tower.

:: // Shawn Peppers
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

> On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Have these been working well for people?
>
> I would absolutely love to hear they're the solution to our fiber+DC
> demands.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

[Kees H.]

Do you have a model# handy? 


From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:55 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

They also make this same thing in dc to dc


:: // Shawn Peppers 
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

On Mar 21, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:


  I suspect that it could be a problem for DC-only sites

  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:37 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

  Why in the world would you not want to hit the thing with exactly 50 volts?  
Get a variable voltage output power supply and once your under load then adjust 
respectfully.  Meanwell makes a $50 power supply that does thisthe older 
versions where not defective technicallyits just no one knew how to 
properly power the device and properly account for voltage drops.


  :: // Shawn Peppers 
  :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

  On Mar 21, 2018, at 1:45 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:


fyi the early versions (up until just recently) the input voltage range did 
not match the spec. The newer date codes match the spec. I cannot remember 
exactly but I think the early ones cut off at about 45-46v while the fixed 
models are about 39?

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

  Can it run a PTP820?



  -Original Message-
  From: Shawn C. Peppers
  Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:22 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

  I use this exact setup on all my FM towers.  Works awesome...although i
  still put them in a metal enclosure and put the cat5 in MC up on tower.

  :: // Shawn Peppers
  :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

  > On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  > Have these been working well for people?
  >
  > I would absolutely love to hear they're the solution to our fiber+DC
  > demands.
  >
  > Josh Luthman
  > Office: 937-552-2340
  > Direct: 937-552-2343
  > 1100 Wayne St
  > Suite 1337
  > Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

[Kees H.]

I suspect that it could be a problem for DC-only sites

From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:37 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

Why in the world would you not want to hit the thing with exactly 50 volts?  
Get a variable voltage output power supply and once your under load then adjust 
respectfully.  Meanwell makes a $50 power supply that does thisthe older 
versions where not defective technicallyits just no one knew how to 
properly power the device and properly account for voltage drops.


:: // Shawn Peppers 
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

On Mar 21, 2018, at 1:45 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:


  fyi the early versions (up until just recently) the input voltage range did 
not match the spec. The newer date codes match the spec. I cannot remember 
exactly but I think the early ones cut off at about 45-46v while the fixed 
models are about 39?

  On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

Can it run a PTP820?



-Original Message-
From: Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

I use this exact setup on all my FM towers.  Works awesome...although i
still put them in a metal enclosure and put the cat5 in MC up on tower.

:: // Shawn Peppers
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

> On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Have these been working well for people?
>
> I would absolutely love to hear they're the solution to our fiber+DC
> demands.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

[Kees H.]

Can it run a PTP820?


-Original Message- 
From: Shawn C. Peppers
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] EP-S16

I use this exact setup on all my FM towers.  Works awesome...although i 
still put them in a metal enclosure and put the cat5 in MC up on tower.

:: // Shawn Peppers
:: // DirectlinkAdmin.com

> On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
>
> Have these been working well for people?
>
> I would absolutely love to hear they're the solution to our fiber+DC 
> demands.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Memory leak bug AF5x Version:v3.2-debug.28630

[Kees H.]

I have seen that.  Usually it is at a time (inversion or ducting or whatever) 
when interference is a bit higher than normal.  I usually change the name on 
the radio and apply it (quicker than a full reboot) and it will start working 
again.  I thought that it may have been a gps synch issue.
We solved it by realigning the dish.  (It was on a utility pole – hence in need 
of alignment at least 2x a year)


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Memory leak bug AF5x Version:v3.2-debug.28630

Had a major backhaul that runs a lot of traffic start going ape shit about 10 
minutes ago.  Signals were just fine but the modulation would bounce.  The 
throughput graph would drop to 0 and start climbing over and over.  Same 
frequency for months. 

Looking at SNMP, it quit responding 3 days ago.  A simple reboot of both sides 
fixed my problem.

Anyone seen this before?  Known issue?  Any recommendations on safe firmware to 
use?


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

[Kees H.]

oh, I read 5700

Anyway, AF is very susceptible to (self) interference.  I would put them 
outside and with rabbit ears.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 5:30 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

No, not in that band.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 8, 2018 8:04 AM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

  Could it be that it disconnects due to false DFS reflections.


  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:13 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

  5730 or 5740?  Lower 20 MHz 5700 band.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 7, 2018 8:11 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

What frequency are they on?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:28 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

UBNT-Gary says 50 meters - 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF5X-23dB-Dish-45-minimum-distance/td-p/1758759
 

Does anyone else have any input?  I want to take two radios that had 
chain/jumper problems and let them run for a while.  In the office (25 feet 
antennas sitting on the ground) they lose association after hours/days.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

[Kees H.]

Could it be that it disconnects due to false DFS reflections.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

5730 or 5740?  Lower 20 MHz 5700 band.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 7, 2018 8:11 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

  What frequency are they on?

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:28 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

  UBNT-Gary says 50 meters - 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF5X-23dB-Dish-45-minimum-distance/td-p/1758759
 

  Does anyone else have any input?  I want to take two radios that had 
chain/jumper problems and let them run for a while.  In the office (25 feet 
antennas sitting on the ground) they lose association after hours/days.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

[Kees H.]

What frequency are they on?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:28 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?

UBNT-Gary says 50 meters - 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF5X-23dB-Dish-45-minimum-distance/td-p/1758759
 

Does anyone else have any input?  I want to take two radios that had 
chain/jumper problems and let them run for a while.  In the office (25 feet 
antennas sitting on the ground) they lose association after hours/days.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Kees H.]

I assume it was a nano beam 19 dbi

-Original Message- 
From: Jan-OOLLC 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 11:39 AM 
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest 

This sounds like a solution.  Did you mean you powered a travel trailer 
or something else by name of nb19?

Jan V

On 01/26/2018 05:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Spam:*******, Test

[Kees H.]

All is quiet at  the western front

-Original Message- 
From: Sam Tetherow 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 9:25 AM 
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
Subject: Spam:***, [Ubnt_users] Test 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Spam:********, Re: Airfiber 11X

[Kees H.]

No on both?


From: Adair Winter 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:17 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Spam:, Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 11X

No.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Kees H. <wispau...@calbb.net> wrote:

  Can the 11x have different frequencies for H & V?
  Also can they do 2x80?

  TIA

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[Ubnt_users] Airfiber 11X

[Kees H.]

Can the 11x have different frequencies for H & V?
Also can they do 2x80?

TIA

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[Ubnt_users] test 2

[Kees H.]

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

[Kees H.]

The newer AF5x come with conversion kit to mount on the RD5g-30

From: Phil Curnutt 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:16 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

AirFibers do not fit the RD-5G30 mount, but a velcro strap works just fine.  
Ubiquiti makes a conversion kit for the RD-5G30 to make it a slant 45 
orientation.  Not sure of the AC dish as I haven't put an AirFiber on one 

Phil

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Electrically I can't imagine why it wouldn't, do you have any ideas? 

  Mechanically is the better question to ask and what I should have stated.  
Not sure if Ubiquiti went through and made one uniform mounting for the 
af5x/AC/prism/M type attachment.



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  On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

Electrically or mechanically?




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From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:39:46 AM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes 



Do these Ubnt dishes work (without modification) with the af5x radio? 

RD‑5G31‑AC
RD-5G30


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

[Kees H.]

All our radios are on private IPs that are only accessible from 2 public IPs.
Except our dedicated speedtest radios, which are only accessible from our 
private IPs 


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:11 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from 
updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my 
customers experience with other software bugs.


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On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson  wrote:

  Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features 
like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that 
older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New 
versions often include security fixes now or eventually.

  Mark

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  Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

Why fix what isn't broken?


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On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:

  I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
  M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
  M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
  unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
  used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
  stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
  can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
  worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
  a version that works well.

  Thanks much!
  Mark Stephenson
  Go Bee Wireless


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

[Kees H.]

Mostly netonix

From: Brian - Winters Broadband 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

Kees,

 

What are you using to power the RM5’s?

 

Brian Horn



 

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Kees H.
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:54 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

 

These are all XW RM5

 

From: Lane Hodge 

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:07 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group 

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

 

6.0.4 is clean, couldbe a bug fix in there for it. We saw some issues with a 
lot of the XW line too.

 

Lane Hodge 

ADT Systems Inc.

Rural Texas Broadband

112 CR 3000

Pearsall, TX  78061

Lead Technician & Tower Climber

Office: 877-825-1170

Personal: 210-854-1343

 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

  Just leave them up there or replaced and fixed?

  Josh Luthman
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  On Sep 13, 2017 6:49 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbroadband.net> wrote:

We have several that do that.  Never been able to figure out why.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:07 AM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group 

Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

 

Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket?  It's rebooted a couple of 
times over the past few months. 

 

<0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

<4>[52749.372000] Call Trace:

<4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34

<4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140

<4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4

<4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34

<4>[52749.373000] 

 

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Any updates on Speed test fix in AC2

[Kees H.]

We have a Nanostation for the same purpose, in addition we can run a sitesurvey 
every so often to see what is happening around our tower.
I like the idea about the rebooting it automatically.  Thanks.


From: Steve Barnes 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:42 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Any updates on Speed test fix in AC2

I gave up.  I installed a Titanium at my edge with the wireless turned off, a 
ping watchdog set to reboot it every 6 hours and set a very generic IP. All my 
staff do speed tests to it from stations instead of using AC. Gives them a 
better feeling of what the customer can see speed wise to our edge.

 

Steve Barnes

Wireless Operations Manager

New Lisbon Broadband

NLBC.COM

PCSWIN.COM

765-584-2288 ext:1101

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of alex phillips
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:35 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Any updates on Speed test fix in AC2

 

I am still having to use Air Control for speed testing Power Beams because AC2 
still is not working correctly,

 

Any updates on this getting fixed?




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

[Kees H.]

These are all XW RM5

From: Lane Hodge 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

6.0.4 is clean, couldbe a bug fix in there for it. We saw some issues with a 
lot of the XW line too.

Lane Hodge 
ADT Systems Inc.
Rural Texas Broadband
112 CR 3000
Pearsall, TX  78061
Lead Technician & Tower Climber
Office: 877-825-1170
Personal: 210-854-1343

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

  Just leave them up there or replaced and fixed?


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  On Sep 13, 2017 6:49 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbroadband.net> wrote:

We have several that do that.  Never been able to figure out why.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:07 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket?  It's rebooted a couple of 
times over the past few months. 

<0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
<4>[52749.372000] Call Trace:
<4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34
<4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140
<4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4
<4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34
<4>[52749.373000] 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

[Kees H.]

I replaced a couple, but then, that is a tower climb and one replacement did 
it.  I still have 3 that do it.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:52 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

Just leave them up there or replaced and fixed?


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On Sep 13, 2017 6:49 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbroadband.net> wrote:

  We have several that do that.  Never been able to figure out why.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:07 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

  Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket?  It's rebooted a couple of 
times over the past few months. 

  <0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
  <4>[52749.372000] Call Trace:
  <4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34
  <4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140
  <4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4
  <4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34
  <4>[52749.373000] 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF 11x

[Kees H.]

Now that is exciting.


From: Jeremy Smith 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF 11x

Jirious also has a 1' dish now for the AF11X JRMC-380




From: "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:50:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF 11x


2' to 4' with jirous. 
2' to 6' with radio waves.
The ubnt dish is big for its gain. Dunno why. Maybe everyone is lying.
Comsearch does our coordination 

On Sep 13, 2017 4:48 PM, "Kees H." <wispau...@calbroadband.net> wrote:

  Who does frequency coordination for the AF 11x?
  What size is the dish?


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

[Kees H.]

We have several that do that.  Never been able to figure out why.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:07 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own

Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket?  It's rebooted a couple of times 
over the past few months. 

<0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
<4>[52749.372000] Call Trace:
<4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34
<4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140
<4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4
<4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34
<4>[52749.373000] 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] prism

[Kees H.]

You mean someone actually watches them?

< running ducking  />

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:01 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] prism

and now we know who doesn't watch our videos...




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From: "alex phillips" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:59:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] prism


I asked one of my guys to dig into this and he said the only diff is Gen2 has a 
2.4ghz configuration wifi system and its predecessor does not. 

I would love to know if there is more.


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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

  What is the difference between the R5AC-prism and the RP-5AC-GEN2

  Steve Barnes
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[Ubnt_users] AF 11x

[Kees H.]

Who does frequency coordination for the AF 11x?
What size is the dish?


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Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

[Kees H]

How do you get 12 awg to fit in the EP R6?


From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:16 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

I only ever use 12awg.  You would need to calculate your amperage to be safe.

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On Mar 31, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  What gauge wire do you use for under 100ft lenghts?



  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:23 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

  Personally i like it non polarity sensitive its less to have to map out and 
deal with.

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  On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:13 AM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote:


It makes you not a dummy. you were intelligent enough to know that + is 
different then - 
Unfortunately, they seem to be wanting to cater to people who don't have 
the intelligence to know there is a difference between + and -

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
<videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Don't worry i spent a hour looking for the polarity.

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  On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


Ah.  Thank you.  And what does that make me <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>



From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:53 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

Its is auto polaritythey made it dummy proof. 

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    On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Can’t seem to find which is + and which is – on the 24VDC connector?
  is – closest to the ground lug?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

[Kees H]

What gauge wire do you use for under 100ft lenghts?



From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

Personally i like it non polarity sensitive its less to have to map out and 
deal with.

Shawn C. Peppers 
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On Mar 31, 2017, at 11:13 AM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote:


  It makes you not a dummy. you were intelligent enough to know that + is 
different then - 
  Unfortunately, they seem to be wanting to cater to people who don't have the 
intelligence to know there is a difference between + and -

  On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
<videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't worry i spent a hour looking for the polarity.

Shawn C. Peppers 
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On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Ah.  Thank you.  And what does that make me <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>



  From: Shawn C. Peppers 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:53 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

  Its is auto polaritythey made it dummy proof. 

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  On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


Can’t seem to find which is + and which is – on the 24VDC connector?
is – closest to the ground lug?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.03 firmware still has some bugs

[Kees H]

Check the CPU usage on those.  We noticed that Beta 6.0 B9 everything worked 
OK.  When final 6.0 came out many of our PBM5 400 had 100% CPU usage.  

We normally don’t upgrade our entire network at once.  We first start using the 
new firmware with new customers.  And take it from there.
All our radios are on private IPs and are firewalled.  



From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:54 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 6.03 firmware still has some bugs

Started updating APs and backhauls to 6.03.  

 

Started getting calls, users dropping, NetFlix buffering, etc…  Found out 
throughput on backhauls went way down.  Checked the first backhaul which was 
Powerbeam M5 and PowerBeam 400, xm and xw firmware, it went from 130Mbps to 
54Mbps on the backhaul even though signal levels were the same, -54/-55dBm.  
Even worse, throughput went to 1Mbps or less.  We change it back to 6.0 and 
wham, everything goes back to normal.  Not sure what’s going on be we are going 
back to 6.0 on all APs and backhauls.

  

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

[Kees H]

Ah.  Thank you.  And what does that make me 



From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:53 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DC power to EdgePoint R6

Its is auto polaritythey made it dummy proof. 

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On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Can’t seem to find which is + and which is – on the 24VDC connector?
  is – closest to the ground lug?
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[Ubnt_users] Same SSID for other APs

[Kees H]

Which version has this problem?  It was in the 6.0.1 fix


Station fails re-authentication with AP when the same SSID is used for other APs



From: Eric Tykwinski 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:01 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] V 6.0.1 & 6.0.2

I’m seeing it on most products: 
   New:
- New: SNMP OIDs for CPU and Memory utilisation
- New: Update dropbear to v2016.74
- New: OpenSSL update to v1.0.2k
- New: libevent update to v2.1.8

Fixes:
- Fix: PTP mode stability and performance improvements
- Fix: Security fixes and improvements
- Fix: ATPC fast restart added
- Fix: Restore initial TX power on AP/PTP when ATPC is turned off
- Fix: Revert Device Name strictness for DHCP Client (escape only hashtag 
‘#’ symbol which breaks DHCP Client operation)
- Fix: Station fails re-authentication with AP when the same SSID is used for 
other APs
- Fix: Stations start disassociating from AP (PTMP)
- Fix: ATPC feature enable/disable and ATPC target signal change interrupts 
wireless link
- Fix: Wrong distance (100km) reporting after switching from Fixed to Auto 
Distance in airMAX PTP mode
- Fix: Flow Control fix for WA products

WEB UI:
- WEB UI: Don't allow to remove BRIDGE0 interface containing WLAN0
- WEB UI: "(Auto)" label missing on STA's Remote statistics in case ATPC is 
enabled on AP (PTP mode only)
- WEB UI: Show more detailed error messages when upgrading invalid firmware
- WEB UI: Improved Station List for small screens like mobile
- WEB UI: Change status.cgi output type from text/html to application/json
- WEB UI: Password change validation fix
  On Mar 28, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote:

  I think it's the vulnerability fix 




  On 03/28/2017 07:54 PM, James Wilson wrote:

I was wondering that too,  didn't see any release notes...

On Mar 28, 2017 8:52 PM, "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  What is the difference?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

[Kees H]

Can’t really blame that on spell check of fat fingering.
From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:19 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

Chance or change?


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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  I hear you.  The least they could do it to program the pop up to appear after 
you click on the apply button.

  Also in the edgerouter, (EdgeOS) the chances can not be “tested”  I have now 
a EdgePoint 1 hours driving from here that the gateway was “fat fingered” one 
digit off. 

  They have great firmware and then they have to chance it.  Why oh Why?

  From: Joe Novak 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:02 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

  I noticed in the 6.x firmware that this happens as soon as you hit change on 
the wireless page. kind of drives me nuts. I'm a left to right programmer, I 
start with wireless and work my way over.

  On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

I hear you, but my point is that before they gave you this pop up to change 
the password, all they had was this same tiny little icon to change password.  
No wonder people could not figure out where to change the password.  Had they 
just shown the password fields, I will bet you there would have been a lot less 
people forgetting to change the password.


From: Shawn C. Peppers 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:08 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

They make you change the password because of the "idiots" that did not 
change it and allowed for massive compromised devices.

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On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Yes, and did you see the new the firmware upload icon? 
  And as usual, UBNT wants you to change the password (who would not) yet 
first they hide where to change it, and then give you this pop up.  As if we 
are idiots.

  Really give us the old interface back.  And the old colors.

  From: David 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:37 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

  The old interface worked so much better in a professional environment. I 
appreciate the extra info, but we there is way more fanciness and stuff going 
on the screen than needed. And options hidden under hide away arrows are kind 
of annoying. The old interface was so much more efficient and easy to teach 
to new guys. I liked the tab separation a lot better. 

  Just my 2 cents.

  On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

FYI you could just use macros with your browser.



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On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ridgetop Networks 
<and...@ridgetopnetworks.com> wrote:

  Agreed! I'm sorely missing browser form field history in v8.


      On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> 
wrote:

Please can we get usability over looks.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
We use to be able to program the radios fast in the shop.  Enter 
the first character of the IP and click on the full IP bang. done.
Now with the “new and not improved” firmware, the browser no longer 
keeps the information for the fields.  We have to enter each and every setting 
over and over and over.
Some with the name on the activation code.  
Please allow the keeping of the information as you had it in the 
v.5 etc.  
We program all are radios to a default setting and once the radios 
are install assign an individual setting.
Also what ever happened to the customized firmware.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

[Kees H]

Yes, and did you see the new the firmware upload icon? 
And as usual, UBNT wants you to change the password (who would not) yet first 
they hide where to change it, and then give you this pop up.  As if we are 
idiots.

Really give us the old interface back.  And the old colors.

From: David 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT new Firmware

The old interface worked so much better in a professional environment. I 
appreciate the extra info, but we there is way more fanciness and stuff going 
on the screen than needed. And options hidden under hide away arrows are kind 
of annoying. The old interface was so much more efficient and easy to teach 
to new guys. I liked the tab separation a lot better. 

Just my 2 cents.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

  FYI you could just use macros with your browser.



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  On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Ridgetop Networks 
<and...@ridgetopnetworks.com> wrote:

Agreed! I'm sorely missing browser form field history in v8.


On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  Please can we get usability over looks.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
  We use to be able to program the radios fast in the shop.  Enter the 
first character of the IP and click on the full IP bang. done.
  Now with the “new and not improved” firmware, the browser no longer keeps 
the information for the fields.  We have to enter each and every setting over 
and over and over.
  Some with the name on the activation code.  
  Please allow the keeping of the information as you had it in the v.5 etc. 
 
  We program all are radios to a default setting and once the radios are 
install assign an individual setting.
  Also what ever happened to the customized firmware.

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[Ubnt_users] AirGateway LR

[Kees H]

Got a customer asking for moderate Nat mode.

How do I set an Airgateway LR NAT  from strict mode to moderate?

TIA
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Interesting...

[Kees H]

Is this the SSL3/Poodle vulnerability?


From: mike.l...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:21 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Interesting...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/16/ubiquiti_networking_php_hole/ 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

[Kees H]

The 100 pack is priced right
From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

That's really nice!


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On Mar 8, 2017 5:41 PM, "Jeremy Smith" <jsm...@bluespring.me> wrote:

  I use the Panduit connectors.  They have a spring-loaded clip, and high 
quality offset gold crimps.  We stopped having issues when I switched to these. 
 They aren't cheap, and this is the cheapest place online to buy them that I 
have found.  
https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/MPS588-C/PANDUIT/Copper-Connectors/p/355197?utm_source=google_term=_campaign=_medium=cpc_content=s_dc~106968659190~~=CMDcmPH8x9ICFUq5wAodHu8Fvg


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  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
  Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 2:24:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports


  For us the toughconnectors seem to work better than other brands
  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 1:14 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

  The cable?  ToughCable (Ubnt) with ToughConnectors (Ubnt) going to AF5x 
(Ubnt). 

  Is that what you're asking or are you talking about the AF5X unit?  I haven't 
opened any of them up.


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  On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

What brand are you using?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

Well ya that's the whole issue here...


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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  Sometimes I wonder about the quality of the connectors.


  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:20 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

  I ended up using zip ties to make the cable as solid as a rock.  By hand 
I can't make the link drop, so I'm sure these 40 mph winds won't be able to 
now. 

  I was hoping there was a long term fix rather than "use more zip ties and 
use grease" like a better ethernet jack that doesn't have this problem (like 
what's found in WBMFG cards, Rockets, Epmp, etc).


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  On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
<videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:

No fix but to try to rig it tightly somehow.

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> On Mar 8, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone found a solution to this?  Just climbed to find the cable was 
slightly loose for Ethernet (power was fine).
>
> What do we need to do for an SFP???
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

[Kees H]

For us the toughconnectors seem to work better than other brands
From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

The cable?  ToughCable (Ubnt) with ToughConnectors (Ubnt) going to AF5x (Ubnt). 

Is that what you're asking or are you talking about the AF5X unit?  I haven't 
opened any of them up.


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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  What brand are you using?

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:39 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

  Well ya that's the whole issue here...


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  On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

Sometimes I wonder about the quality of the connectors.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:20 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

I ended up using zip ties to make the cable as solid as a rock.  By hand I 
can't make the link drop, so I'm sure these 40 mph winds won't be able to now. 

I was hoping there was a long term fix rather than "use more zip ties and 
use grease" like a better ethernet jack that doesn't have this problem (like 
what's found in WBMFG cards, Rockets, Epmp, etc).


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  No fix but to try to rig it tightly somehow.

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  > On Mar 8, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:
  >
  > Anyone found a solution to this?  Just climbed to find the cable was 
slightly loose for Ethernet (power was fine).
  >
  > What do we need to do for an SFP???
  >
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

[Kees H]

Sometimes I wonder about the quality of the connectors.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:20 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Damn AF5X ports

I ended up using zip ties to make the cable as solid as a rock.  By hand I 
can't make the link drop, so I'm sure these 40 mph winds won't be able to now. 

I was hoping there was a long term fix rather than "use more zip ties and use 
grease" like a better ethernet jack that doesn't have this problem (like what's 
found in WBMFG cards, Rockets, Epmp, etc).


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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Shawn C. Peppers 
 wrote:

  No fix but to try to rig it tightly somehow.

  Shawn C. Peppers
  Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
  866-680-8433 Toll Free
  480-287-9960 Fax
  http://www.video-direct.tv


  > On Mar 8, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
  >
  > Anyone found a solution to this?  Just climbed to find the cable was 
slightly loose for Ethernet (power was fine).
  >
  > What do we need to do for an SFP???
  >
  > Josh Luthman
  > Office: 937-552-2340
  > Direct: 937-552-2343
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  > Suite 1337
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

[Kees H]

Go ahead, cheer me up.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:35 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Correction: As of 2000, most gigabit channel-bonding schemes use the IEEE 
standard of Link Aggregation which was formerly clause 43 of the IEEE 802.3 
standard added in March 2000 by the IEEE 802.3ad task force.[4] Nearly every 
network equipment manufacturer quickly adopted this joint standard over their 
proprietary standards. 



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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

  LACP is like 1990 dude...



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  On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

Where do you guys find the time to keep up with all that new stuff?


From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Yup

On Feb 27, 2017, at 16:13, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


  Netonix and LACP?


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  On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

What would be the easiest way to get these working into your network?  
A router at each end of the link?
We use a lot of Netonix, but those are not routers.


From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Yes. 

On Feb 26, 2017, at 13:42, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Can we upgrade a link on the fly?
  In other words, we can not do both sides of a link at the same time.  
So will a link work with one end being just the one AF5x and the other end the 
2 af5x? 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

[Kees H]

Where do you guys find the time to keep up with all that new stuff?


From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Yup

On Feb 27, 2017, at 16:13, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


  Netonix and LACP?


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  On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

What would be the easiest way to get these working into your network?  A 
router at each end of the link?
We use a lot of Netonix, but those are not routers.


From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Yes. 

On Feb 26, 2017, at 13:42, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Can we upgrade a link on the fly?
  In other words, we can not do both sides of a link at the same time.  So 
will a link work with one end being just the one AF5x and the other end the 2 
af5x? 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

[Kees H]

What would be the easiest way to get these working into your network?  A router 
at each end of the link?
We use a lot of Netonix, but those are not routers.


From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

Yes. 

On Feb 26, 2017, at 13:42, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:


  Can we upgrade a link on the fly?
  In other words, we can not do both sides of a link at the same time.  So will 
a link work with one end being just the one AF5x and the other end the 2 af5x? 
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[Ubnt_users] AirFiber Multiplexor

[Kees H]

Can we upgrade a link on the fly?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning

[Kees H]

That is like asking a Ford guy, if he owns a Chevy.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:32 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning 

The second link is iOS if you have an iPhone?


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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  any chance we can get it from another site than Google.  Google is not my 
friend.


  From: James Craig via Ubnt_users 
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:45 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning 

  Thanks for the reports.  This should be fixed in 8.0.2-beta2 which will be 
available next week.


  We also have UMobile available for iOS and Android.  If you haven't tried it 
out, please do and let us know what you think here or directly to me.

  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubnt.umobile=en

  https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/umobile-ubnt/id1183022489?mt=8




  On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> 
wrote:

LOL




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From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:25:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning  



How did you load the firmware and config file on the radio?

Try using a modern browser like safari or Firefox. 

On Feb 22, 2017, at 19:33, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com> wrote:


  Try to read this in the daylight...

  On Feb 22, 2017 7:25 PM, "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> wrote:

I don't have a problem with it even on my cheap andriod phone.

On Wed, February 22, 2017 6:37 pm, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Even on your phone??
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
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>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> At first I was amazed. I was petrified. Thinking airos8 wasn't by my
>> side. But then I had to get along.
>>
>>
>> Oh yes. Airos8 and I are really friendly guests. I just love the way 
it
>>  works. It has very few quirks. Oh 5 just die.
>>
>> Seriously though. I love 8.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 17:04, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If it makes you feel any better, ePMP made their GUI work beautifully
>> well with phones in 3.2.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> 
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> UBNT,
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if I offend someone here, but why could you not leave the gui
>>> as it was.  Today I installed our first PBM5 AC.  First I noticed 
that
>>> AirOS V8
>>> is not fully functional in android’s default internet browser.
>>>
>>> OK We will try Chrome.  After fighting Chrome, which wants the login
>>> name to start wit a Cap, I got into the unit and was able to access
>>> the wireless tab.  Ran a scan to find our radio and SSID and what 
do I
>>> run into.  Some wizard programmer with a way too big a monitor on 
his
>>> desk, must have decided that it looks really cool to have the
>>> information show up, -not the standard black on white-, but white on
>>> black.  Have you ever tried to read a screen white on black on a 
smart
>>> phone in the sun?
>>>
>>> Why do you have to change what is working so well?  AirOS v5X works
>>> excellent on an android. Did you guys ever check with people who
>>> actually use this for a living?
 

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning

[Kees H]

Actually it is a Chrome thing.  The android default browser does not 
automatically caps the first letter.  But AirOS 8 is not fully functional on 
that browser.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:47 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning 

The caps thing is just how mobile devices are.

The rest I have no comment on as I haven't used AirOS 6 or 8.




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From: "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:01:37 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function?  (warning 


UBNT,
Sorry if I offend someone here, but why could you not leave the gui as it was.  
Today I installed our first PBM5 AC.  First I noticed that AirOS V8 is not 
fully functional in android’s default internet browser.
OK We will try Chrome.  After fighting Chrome, which wants the login name to 
start wit a Cap, I got into the unit and was able to access the wireless tab.  
Ran a scan to find our radio and SSID and what do I run into.  Some wizard 
programmer with a way too big a monitor on his desk, must have decided that it 
looks really cool to have the information show up, -not the standard black on 
white-, but white on black.  Have you ever tried to read a screen white on 
black on a smart phone in the sun?
Why do you have to change what is working so well?  AirOS v5X works excellent 
on an android.
Did you guys ever check with people who actually use this for a living?
The dashboard of the Airfiber AirOS8 is way too cluttered to be of efficient 
use.  Why the shading and the funky colors?  I could go on but I think you get 
my drift.
Funky over function?.  Pulleazeee.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning

[Kees H]

Bingo, where’s the beef I mean my ssid?


From: James Wilson 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:33 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning 

Try to read this in the daylight...

On Feb 22, 2017 7:25 PM, "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> wrote:

  I don't have a problem with it even on my cheap andriod phone.

  On Wed, February 22, 2017 6:37 pm, Josh Luthman wrote:
  > Even on your phone??
  >
  >
  >
  > Josh Luthman
  > Office: 937-552-2340
  > Direct: 937-552-2343
  > 1100 Wayne St
  > Suite 1337
  > Troy, OH 45373
  >
  >
  > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Matt Hoppes <
  > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
  >
  >> At first I was amazed. I was petrified. Thinking airos8 wasn't by my
  >> side. But then I had to get along.
  >>
  >>
  >> Oh yes. Airos8 and I are really friendly guests. I just love the way it
  >>  works. It has very few quirks. Oh 5 just die.
  >>
  >> Seriously though. I love 8.
  >>
  >>
  >> On Feb 22, 2017, at 17:04, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  >> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> If it makes you feel any better, ePMP made their GUI work beautifully
  >> well with phones in 3.2.
  >>
  >>
  >> Josh Luthman
  >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
  >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
  >> 1100 Wayne St
  >> Suite 1337
  >> Troy, OH 45373
  >>
  >>
  >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >>> UBNT,
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Sorry if I offend someone here, but why could you not leave the gui
  >>> as it was.  Today I installed our first PBM5 AC.  First I noticed that
  >>> AirOS V8
  >>> is not fully functional in android’s default internet browser.
  >>>
  >>> OK We will try Chrome.  After fighting Chrome, which wants the login
  >>> name to start wit a Cap, I got into the unit and was able to access
  >>> the wireless tab.  Ran a scan to find our radio and SSID and what do I
  >>> run into.  Some wizard programmer with a way too big a monitor on his
  >>> desk, must have decided that it looks really cool to have the
  >>> information show up, -not the standard black on white-, but white on
  >>> black.  Have you ever tried to read a screen white on black on a smart
  >>> phone in the sun?
  >>>
  >>> Why do you have to change what is working so well?  AirOS v5X works
  >>> excellent on an android. Did you guys ever check with people who
  >>> actually use this for a living?
  >>>
  >>> The dashboard of the Airfiber AirOS8 is way too cluttered to be of
  >>> efficient use.  Why the shading and the funky colors?  I could go on
  >>> but I think you get my drift.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Funky over function?.  Pulleazeee.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
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[Ubnt_users] UBNT Frills over function? (warning

[Kees H]

UBNT,
Sorry if I offend someone here, but why could you not leave the gui as it was.  
Today I installed our first PBM5 AC.  First I noticed that AirOS V8 is not 
fully functional in android’s default internet browser.
OK We will try Chrome.  After fighting Chrome, which wants the login name to 
start wit a Cap, I got into the unit and was able to access the wireless tab.  
Ran a scan to find our radio and SSID and what do I run into.  Some wizard 
programmer with a way too big a monitor on his desk, must have decided that it 
looks really cool to have the information show up, -not the standard black on 
white-, but white on black.  Have you ever tried to read a screen white on 
black on a smart phone in the sun?
Why do you have to change what is working so well?  AirOS v5X works excellent 
on an android.
Did you guys ever check with people who actually use this for a living?
The dashboard of the Airfiber AirOS8 is way too cluttered to be of efficient 
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[Ubnt_users] RM5 AP Issue

[Kees H]

We have one customer’s radio that can connect to 2 RM5 APs.  All he uses is 
voip, so his tx/rx graph is pretty much one line, meaning tx & rx are usually 
of the same value.
However.  Since recently if the radio is connected to say AP #1 the usage graph 
is no longer synchronized but the RX spikes to 5mbps while the tx is still 
around the 500K which is the normal number.
Switch the radio to AP #2, the usage graph is back to being synchronized TX/RX
Changed frequencies, (Swapped between AP#1 & AP#2) still the same issue.
Updated the radio to the latest firmware. Still the same issue.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket recommendation?

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What is the throughput per 10 MHz?
Also what if any do we sacrifice in mixed mode?



-Original Message- 
From: G. Nicholas
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 3:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket recommendation?

Rocket AC Prism  with 8x firmware support both legacy N-based as well as new 
AC based CPE.

- Original Message -
From: Roy
Sent: 2/9/2017 11:12:44 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket recommendation?

> We will be putting up a new tower to split the current customer base.
> My thinking right now is two 90 degree sectors.  The other 180 degrees
> is hillside so no need to radiate in that direction
>
> The clients are all Nanobridge/Powerbeams non-AC radios but we want to
> add AC into the mix.  The environment is 5Ghz with lots of other radios
> out there.
>
> Looking at the bewildering array of Rocket radios, I am looking for some
> recommendations on what equipment to use.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue

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UBNT can you reply on this “disabled automatically?”

My money is remote management is disabled.  I don't know why they make it 
disabled automatically after you upgrade it then make a change on some devices 
but not all, but there is a pop up warning you that it is disabled after you 
hit change.  I haven't paid enough attention maybe its a certain fw version 
that does this but i have seen it happen on a few.

  - Original Message - 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue
  From: "Mitch" 
  Date: 2/2/17 3:19 pm
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 


  Are these AC?



  On 02/02/2017 01:21 PM, Jorge Santiago wrote:
Don't think is virus. Will reboot units later today to check.

Thanks 


On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:35 PM Gino Villarini  wrote:
  Virus? 

  From:  on behalf of Steve Barnes 






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  Reply-To: Ubiquiti Group 
  Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:30 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Group 

  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue

  Did any updates get applied lately.  



  Check and see if the disable remote management was applied during update. 
 Had that happen a few times.  Can you ssh into them. 



  Steve Barnes

  Wireless Operations Manager

  NLBC.com

  PCSWIN.com



  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 12:47 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue



  Noise floor has always been fake, I'd ignore it.

  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Feb 2, 2017 12:45 PM, "Jorge Santiago"  wrote:

  Rebooting won't fix.  



  On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

  Reboots fix it?

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  > On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Jorge Santiago  
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  >
  > I have two customers, relatively close to our tower, and cannot log 
into their CPE. Starting happening a few days ago customer will complain of 
slow speeds.
  >
  >
  > Any idea?
  >
  > Jorge

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue

[Kees H]

Why don’t you have security enabled?


From: Jorge Santiago 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:15 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] 5GHz UBNT Issue

I have two customers, relatively close to our tower, and cannot log into their 
CPE. Starting happening a few days ago customer will complain of slow speeds. 


Any idea? 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] replacing rocket w/sector antenna AP

[Kees H]

just make sure your stations are not locked to the AP by mac address


-Original Message- 
From: Jan-OOLLC 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:38 AM 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] replacing rocket w/sector antenna AP 

Is there a technique to install a replacement rocket and have the CPEs 
transfer over with minimal pain such as drive to every home and manually 
connect?  I don't want to have to drive 100 miles multiple times to get 
at each CPE with appointments


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Help!

[Kees H]

I’d put my money on a false positive.
(a negative in this case)

From: James Wilson 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 6:47 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Help!

The stations are in router mode, that;s one of the reasons why this is a 
surprise...  Still doing a post mortem.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Shawn C. Peppers 
 wrote:

  This kind of thing is why i am a huge fan of putting the station device in 
router mode.  Customers connecting layer2 to my tower setup has always seemed a 
bad idea to me.

  Shawn C. Peppers 
  Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
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  On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:28 AM, James Wilson  wrote:


Stuart he was simply trying to set up a way to control something remotely 
with a static public IP address. 

Apparently one of us was doing something wrong that caused a loop that 
Netonix caught.

On Jan 26, 2017 6:24 AM, "Stuart Pierce"  wrote:

  99.86% sure it's paranoia, but I'd like to know what Mr. WILSON ( sorry I
  was channeling my inner Dennis ) thinks the customer was setting up.

  On Thu, January 26, 2017 12:53 am, RickG wrote:
  > Ya know, I've always suspected UBNT CPE leaks or am I just paranoid?
  >
  >
  > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:41 PM, James Wilson 
  > wrote:
  >
  >
  >> Looks like a customer with a static public IP was setting up something.
  >>  Even though he is on a routed port of a switch (our CPEs are routed)
  >> something he did somehow caused a loop.
  >>
  >> On Jan 25, 2017 9:04 PM, "Eric Tykwinski" 
  >> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >>> I just tested STP on my little home AirRouter running v6.  Running
  >>> RSTP
  >>> on the Cisco and bridged on the AirRouter with STP enabled, it never
  >>> went to blocked on either port.  I think there might be a bug in v6
  >>> for STP. Weird part was switch was still saying rstp, and I think
  >>> AirOS only
  >>> supports STP.   I might dig a bit further later on…
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chris Soiles 
  >>> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Could be some kind of crosstalk and thinking it's a loop
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> I usually turn off STP unless I know there is multipath in that
  >>> segment
  >>>
  >>> Sent from iPhone 6S Plus
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Chris Soiles
  >>> Owner
  >>> Rio Cities
  >>> csoi...@riocities.net 505-966-6389
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:18 PM, James Wilson 
  >>> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> We didn't have STP enabled on any of the ports.  This is strange -
  >>> these devices have been working together for a year.
  >>>
  >>> It's been stable for several minutes now that I turned off loop
  >>> protection.
  >>>
  >>> Don't see how I could get a loop in one device.   ???
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Thank for coming to the rescue!   :)
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:15 PM, James Wilson 
  >>> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
   I just did some Google searches and turned off Loop Protection in
   the Devices/Configuration page.  So far ok...
  
  
   On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman <
   j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
  
  > If you DEFINITELY don't have a bridge loop (like two backhauls
  > going to this tower, both of which go to the same collision
  > domain) you can disable port 2 from the STP.
  >
  >
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  > Suite 1337
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  >
  >
  > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:09 PM, James Wilson
  > 
  > wrote:
  >
  >
  >> I have a very straightforward flat network, no OSPF, etc.
  >>
  >>
  >> Tonight I started losing connection and traced it back to a
  >> Netonix
  >> switch. The connection is up for a minute then the Netonix
  >> switch turns off the AF5X's port.
  >>
  >> Below is what it's log is saying.  I don't understand how the
  >> AF 5X
  >> that's connected to the port can cause a loop.  Help!   Thanks!
  >> :)
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Jan 25 17:39:37 Loop protection: detected loop from port 2 to
  >> port 2, disabling port 2 for 180 seconds Jan 25 17:42:39 Loop
  >> protection: re-enabling port 2
  >> Jan 25 17:43:38 Loop protection: 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Do Beam5-400 support 5.1 or 5.4?

[Kees H]

XW 6.0 

From: Kees H 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Do Beam5-400 support 5.1 or 5.4?

Get the latest firmware & activate it.
From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 2:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Do Beam5-400 support 5.1 or 5.4?

I tried 5.6.2 and 5.6.9 and can't get the UNII2 button to show up on the last 
tab.  Our brand new NSM5 have it unlocked from the factory.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Do Beam5-400 support 5.1 or 5.4?

[Kees H]

Get the latest firmware & activate it.
From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 2:15 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Do Beam5-400 support 5.1 or 5.4?

I tried 5.6.2 and 5.6.9 and can't get the UNII2 button to show up on the last 
tab.  Our brand new NSM5 have it unlocked from the factory.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

[Kees H]

Thanks

How can one identify these from the newer non airprism rockets?



Spec sheet attached..

These units have airprism, but will not do lower 5ghz due to hardware/filter 
limitation.


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Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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  From: "Kees H." <wi...@calbroadband.com>
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:01:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

  I was hoping UBNT would chime in on this one.  As I don’t want to climb our 
130ft tower and put up the wrong AP.
  As you can see from the attached picture, mine does not look like your 
description.  I suspect it is because this is an earlier (first) version.  This 
was from a spare.  But we have several that have been removed from ptp links.  
And I need a way to identify them from non prism RM5s.


  From: Phil Curnutt
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:28 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

  Prisms are longer, more square edged, and in a metallic case (tap the case 
with your finger nail) as compared to all the other Rocket AC's.   Oh, and they 
say "PRISM" across the front and have a GPS port between the Antenna ports. 

  Phil

  On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

Are you sure that Prisms are metal case only.  I know I ordered some 
Prisms, but we have only plastic case.
How can one identify between them?


From: Phil Curnutt
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

There are: 
Rocket AC Lites:  All UNII bands, but not filters, plastic case.
Rocket AC PtP:  All UNII bands, but no filters, plastic case.  These were 
originally PtP only, but after some early   firmware update also could do 
PtMP.
Rocket AC PtMP:  No UNII-Lower band, no filters, plastic case, became both 
PtP and PtMP after above
   firmware upgrade.
Rocket AC Prism:  All UNII bands, filters all bands, metal case, both PtP 
and PtMP.

    Phil

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  We used a mix of Lite and RM5 AC for PTP before AF5x.  So I have several 
units on the shelves.  Trying to figure out which ones are the prisms.
  So all non Lites have Prisms?
   

  No.  I remember an M5 AC Lite Rocket that i was considering getting but 
was told for the extra money the prism had noise filtering tech in it that was 
worth the money for performance gained.  Not an expert on AC stuff dont have 
any ptmp setups yet just ptps
- Original Message - 
    Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
From: "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com>
Date: 12/22/16 4:29 pm
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>



Are all RM5 AC prisms?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

[Kees H]

We used a mix of Lite and RM5 AC for PTP before AF5x.  So I have several units 
on the shelves.  Trying to figure out which ones are the prisms.
So all non Lites have Prisms?
 

No.  I remember an M5 AC Lite Rocket that i was considering getting but was 
told for the extra money the prism had noise filtering tech in it that was 
worth the money for performance gained.  Not an expert on AC stuff dont have 
any ptmp setups yet just ptps
  - Original Message - 
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC
  From: "Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com>
  Date: 12/22/16 4:29 pm
  To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>



  Are all RM5 AC prisms?



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[Ubnt_users] Rocket M5 AC

[Kees H]

Are all RM5 AC prisms?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Mass DNS Change

[Kees H]

When we renumbered our IPs we put a dstnat in our router for the DNS addys 
and now 3 years later we are still using them :-)


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:18 AM
To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group (ubnt_users@wispa.org)'
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Mass DNS Change

I have a situation that I need to mass change Hundreds of DNS addresses used 
in CPEs.  All makes and models of UBNT.

Best way since AC2 does not allow this?  Hasn't most of the scripting been 
shut down due to hackers and exploits.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput

[Kees H]

Did the link work in the office?


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:47 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Great CCQ, AMC, AMQ, etc. shit throughput

I have a link that's a couple hundred feet. -57 or so signal with balanced 
chains. CCQ, AMC and AMQ are all above 95%. I only can get double digit KILObit 
throughput one direction. I've rebooted, upgraded to 5.6.9, sent in support 
files, checked CPU usage, etc. Modulations are 130/130 on 20 MHz (was at least 
240/240, usually 270/300 on 40 MHz). The worst noise in the area is probably 
-87.


I have no clue.




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Edgepoint

[Kees H]

Yes, we had that issue when we were using a POE inserter that was less than 
1.25 amp.  Make sure you use the POE that comes with the EdgePoint, it is 
rated higher than the POE that comes with the RM5s

If you are using a 24v setup, we started using the Mean Well RSD-100B-24 as 
a DC-DC converter before the inserter and our problems disappeared.

But to answer your question, I do not know how to remotely check the power 
on the edgePoint

Is there a way to see the supply voltage on a Edgepoint 6.I have 2 
Rockets connected to one that keeps rebooting.  No errors and no log.  Only 
radios rebooting.  I think I need more UMPH up the tower.  But I am not able 
to see what power is getting there.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] DFS on AC

[Kees H]

One way you can get a false hit.

Had a DFS radio attached to frame of a window.  The link went in front of the 
window.  Whenever the customer opened or closed the (sliding) window, the radio 
got a DFS hit.



From: James Craig via Ubnt_users 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:21 PM
To: al...@highspeedlink.net 
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DFS on AC

Hi Alex, 

You should have the option to limit the channel list under Wireless -> Control 
Frequency List.

We are working on some features to help reduce false hits further and improve 
channel selection on a hit.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:11 PM, alex phillips  wrote:

  To say its a Sham, may be a little harsh.  

  OS8 does a better job at the issue however essentially if a PrismAC radio 
sees activity on the DFS channel  you are on that is not part of its session 
list, it runs away and goes to another channel.

  I think its physically impossible for these class of radio systems to 
actually detect the difference between Radar and just Signal on that band.

  I have had these discussions with UBNT, as well as others who use other radio 
products and I think false detect is a common problem on all platforms, not 
just UBNT.

  The FAA really threw a fit about this issue and the FCC made this a very 
strict certification requirement and so this is all that can be done.  Even AF5 
has this issue.

  We are going to start running a script that checks the radio ever 10 mins and 
if the freq has changed its going to change it back.  I guess if there is a war 
going on between dfs logic and our logic, this may not work.

  I also wonder if the channel list can be limited.  I don't see it in the UI.  
Perhaps UBNT folks listening can lend a hand here.




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  On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, James Craig via Ubnt_users 
 wrote:

Hi Guys, 

airMAX radios should only jump to another channel if a RADAR hit is 
detected.  I would suggest running a Frequency list when operating in DFS 
bands. 

That being said, this is most like related to a bug fixed in airOS8beta16.


Ethan / Matthew:  Could you forward the Support Info file from an AP that 
has recently seen this?  

ja...@ubnt.com





On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ethan E. Dee  wrote:

  On the rockets, you choose a DFS channely and it sticks, that is what I'm 
used to.
  Can't replicate that on the rocket ac's 



  On 10/20/2016 1:35 PM, Jordan de Geus wrote:

Isn't DFS supposed to channel hop?

Have you tried blocking the higher noise frequencies to prevent the use 
of those specific channels?

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Matthew Brendle 
 wrote:

  I have a 5AC PRISM doing the same thing.  I manually pick a DFS 
channel on
  the wireless tab and the radio will go to a non-DFS channel.  Does not
  matter which DFS channel I pick, it will go to a non-DFS channel to 
operate.
  It will let me manually pick a non-DFS channel and it will stay on 
it.  Not
  auto, no freq list...

  Matt B.


  -Original Message-
  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ethan E. Dee
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:31 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] DFS on AC

  No, not confusing them.
  Complaining about both.
  DFS channel selection has a mind of it's own. With or without a 
frequency
  list.
  And auto, does not pick the best channel, or anywhere close.

  On 10/20/2016 1:27 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
  > It sounds like you're confusing DFS and auto channel selection. 
Which is
  your question about?
  >
  >> On Oct 20, 2016, at 13:13, Ethan E. Dee  
wrote:
  >>
  >> So DFS on the AC lites is basically a sham from what I can tell.
  >>
  >> I pick a dfs channel and the rocket picks it's own channel. 
Usually a
  >> channel with much higher noise/interference.
  >>
  >> I use the frequency list and it does me no good.
  >>
  >> In addition, I have lot's of frequencies that are in the -90's for
  >> noise and 'auto' picks channels in the -75 to -85. I don't 
understand
  >> the channel selection for these at all.
  >>
  >> Any thoughts?
  >>
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  >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

[Kees H]

I suspect that the twist is bidirectional over the length of a year.   Thus the 
length of the PTP that is being used matters.  The amount of play that you have 
on that link.  The longer the link the less play.  So you would need to ask the 
length of the PTP link


From: Jonathan Taylor 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:03 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

So it sounds like maybe different style pole or kind of tree it's made of could 
make the difference if some are see the twisting and bending and others don't.  
Or maybe the way it is cured and treated by the company that is supplying them 
is the difference. 

Jonathan Taylor
WiSouth Networks, LLC
jtay...@wisouth.net
(334) 595-9521

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Kees H <wi...@calbroadband.com> wrote:

  Just got done climbing our 70ft AGL pole.  On a 13 mile link the RSSI dropped 
from 63 to 72 in about 6 months.
  That may be a minuscule amount of twist, but enough to drop out of QAM 256 to 
QAM 16.
  QAM 64 is still enough to handle the load on this particular link, but QAM 16 
is not.


  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

  What?  Power poles don't twist.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Aug 20, 2016 12:11 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
wrote:


We have been told ours would twisthaven't seen too much of it tho

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

  We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have a bucket 
  truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.

  Jonathan Taylor wrote:
  >
  > Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
  >
  >
  > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell" <atrimm...@precisionds.com 
  > <mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>> wrote:
  >
  > Where's the radome? It helps on the wind load
  >
  > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
  > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
  > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
  > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
  > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
  >
  > We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to
  > rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust
  > once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio after the
  > pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on top of the
  > pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
  >
  > Regards
  >
  > Faisal Imtiaz
  > Snappy Internet & Telecom
  > 7266 SW 48 Street
  > Miami, FL 33155
  > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
  >
  > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
  > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
  >
  > 

  >
  > *From: *"Jonathan Taylor" <jtay...@wisouth.net
  > <mailto:jtay...@wisouth.net>>
  > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org
  > <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
  > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
  > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height
  > you would go before any swaying would really cause issues with
  > a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot above it on
  > two inch od pipe
  >
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

[Kees H]

No sway, but we got a big bubba.  Ditto on the twisting.  As a matter of 
fact my realignment is due this weekend.

80 ft pole 10 ft into the ground.


-Original Message- 
From: Duncan Scott
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:40 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

The issue is that over time the poles tend to twist slightly during the
course of the year.

We find that if we have a 2ft dish / 10 mile link we may have to go out
and adjust the link twice a year. Swaying has not been an issue but our
poles are not really high (40ft).


On 8/19/2016 10:34 AM, Jonathan Taylor wrote:
> Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would go
> before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near
> the top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AirPrism - Are You Liking It?

[Kees H]

Ditto,
We have a few subs at a tower that before the Alvarion 5740-5830 radios were 
dead in the water.  The radios show a –65 noise floor, but we get 60 mbps on a 
10 MHz channel
following.  i think step one is determining are you actually running airprism.
i think we are lol

only a few subs deployed, averaging 150/150 on a 20 mhz channel

all subs are under a mile

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam Morris 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:33 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] AirPrism - Are You Liking It?

  Those of you who have/are using AirPrism radios...how do you like them?

  Thanks
  Sam
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC upgrade

[Kees H]

thank you

-Original Message- 
From: G. Nicholas
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:29 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC upgrade

Kees,

If you read the UB spec sheets you will see that the RM5-AC PTP or PTMP only 
support mid-band DFS or upper UNI-3,  the 5150 to 5250 band is not supported 
on those units.

If you need 5150 then you either need and AC-lite  (no Prism technology)  or 
the new Prism models with the GPS port and metal case.


Garth

- Original Message -
From: Kees H
Sent: 8/4/2016 3:05:48 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket AC upgrade

> Upgraded an RM5 AC PTP to the latest firmware.  Enabled revised UNII 
> rules.  It sees the DFS channels but not the 5165-5240 channels.
> What am I missing?

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[Ubnt_users] Rocket AC upgrade

[Kees H]

Upgraded an RM5 AC PTP to the latest firmware.  Enabled revised UNII rules.  It 
sees the DFS channels but not the 5165-5240 channels.
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[Ubnt_users] AF 11 X

[Kees H]

What dishes would be used for these?
Can’t quite figure out what is meant with “Rocket Dishes”
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Telescoping Pole

[Kees H]

bucket truck



get a drone!


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>
> Thanks
> Shawn
>
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[Ubnt_users] Touchswitch ports

[Kees H]

The only difference between the TS management port and the other ports is that 
the management port is not a gb port nor poe.

Is my thinking correct?  I need a port for a power management device.  Not much 
usage.  I am our of regular ports
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Merry Christmas fix

[Kees H]

Preventive Checklist # 1
Install UPS at all tower locations ?

Merry Christmas Clay.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:02 AM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Merry Christmas fix


  Fix checklist #1,993


  Issue: Tower down due to reset Rocket after a short regional power outage 
Christmas morning.


  Solution: Factory Reset Master PtP Rocket... Change to AP, change channel to 
what it was, set mileage. Change IP to what it was... Leave everything else as 
is... SSID UBNT, CW 40, etc... save settings and it will reconnect to factory 
reset Rocket downstream. Then just program everything back like it was (or 
restore from AC2 backup). Note, you will need subnet access to 192.168.1.x via 
computer and routers.


  No go and call back the three dozen angry people who called in on Christmas 
morning.


  Lucked out that the 40 CW still let me connect, although dur no the fix it 
knocked down couple other backhauls. Be nice if Ubiquiti  would have factory 
default of 10.


  Now off to fix a factory reset router, which I will do by routing to 
192.168.10.1, remotely, and then reprogram. (Need to turn all those factory 
reset buttons off!)




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Kees H]

So I can load the ptmp firmware on a Rocket AC light?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Moore 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


  Yes, PTMP firmware is available for download now.  


  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net wrote:

I'm pretty sure one of the last betas actually did add PtMP I wouldn't 
expect backwards compatibility any too soon though.




From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:19 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


No, but they're not PtMP yet either. Thus far only PtP.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs


Any word about backwards compatibility with Airmax products?



Steven Barnes

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:08 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



For those of you that have them...  are they working well?

Was there anything new in their announcement today? It didn't seem like it.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

[Kees H]

Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
backwards compatibility.

On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
 Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before being
 implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There are a lot of
 features/products that will go into AC prior to adding backwards
 compatibility (making sure these are solid first before adding more
 variables).

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
 Backwards compatibility of the new units?

 __ __

 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.

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 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
 locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
 mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
 Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p

 So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
 there other  changes as well? 

 
 

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore
 [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM


 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 __ __

 ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
 added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
 can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
 PTMP networks in the wild ;)

 __ __

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
 mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:

 ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
 same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
 what happens when you don't make new stuff look different :p
 

 
 

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike
 Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry.

 The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new
 things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I
 didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look
 any different.

 Ohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new software?



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

 The 3 new products announced today: 

 __ __

 R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only

 NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam

 PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam

 __ __

 Also, all of the software updates:

 __ __

 http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/

 __ __

 Some highlights:

 __ 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems

[Kees H]

You must have already DFS enabled in that rocket.  Mike is talking about an 
older rocket before DFS was approved on the rockets.
I ran into the same issue trying to use the 5240.  I upgraded directly to 
5.5.10 and no DFS nor 5160-5240 was avalable.  I downgraded checked the uni box 
entered my codes and voila when I upgraded to 5.5.10 there was the 5160-5240. 
(eventhought those are not DFS :-)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems


  I just upgraded a pair of Rockets to 5.5.10 and was able to enable DFS.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Dec 7, 2014 8:11 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:

Going back to 5.5.8 and clicking the uni-2 box on the system page will get 
you there.



On Sunday, December 7, 2014 8:08 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:




You have to downgrade the software ( I think it was 5.5.4 that had the DFS 
key) then enter the dfs key and then upgrade.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems


  I believe that has been done.

  Definitely the reboot both sides.

  The DFS checkbox\fields are definitely not there.




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  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 12:47:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Old Rockets, weird problems


  Old rocket, plug in DFS credentials for your company, reboot BOTH SIDES.  
BOTH.
  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  On Dec 7, 2014 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

I have some old Rockets (maybe 5.2.1 vintage?). I upgraded them as 
needed throughout the years. The past day or two, performance in on part of the 
network has been erratic to say the best of it.

I noticed that they were in Compliance Test mode, but didn't have the 
input boxes for the DFS stuff, so I must have entered it at one point, but 
never actually moved over. They were on 5.5.2.

Don't fuck with what works. Well, now it's not working right.

I upgrade to 5.5.4, then 5.5.10. I set the country code to US  no 
DFS channels show up on the AP.

Do I need to reboot it after setting it to US so that I can get the DFS 
channels?

A reset to defaults and starting over is kinda out of the question at 
the moment.

Any other ideas?

If I have to climb to replace radios, ePMPs are going up instead.






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Re: [Ubnt_users] groundcontrol project

[Kees H]

ditto
  - Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] groundcontrol project


  Kudos! I'm not a programmer but I'll be glad to be a tester ;)


  On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new project 
yesterday.

https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol

Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2.

We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server, and 
several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen.

The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a possibly 
paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to observium where the 
is a community (free as in beer) version that comes out every 6mo or so, and 
a paid version with newer features and direct support. We're not sure yet, 
but we want to make this project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral.

If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, ideas, 
etc. it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and for the WISP 
community. Thank you!

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl

[Kees H]

Matt @ UBNT

I do believe it is time for you to go to the upper management and have them 
make a comment.  The issues that have been so elequently stated in this and 
other posts in this last week need to be addressed.  The silence from UBNT 
is deafening and shakes my confidence in UBNT.

Please keep us informed.


 Guys, you have good points. I believe though, the problem here isn't
 just the product, it's the message.  The reality is that it wouldn't
 take that many more resources to finish and update AC2.  I thought it
 had a bunch of bells and whistles I could have lived without and that
 functionality was more important but that wasn't my call.  We fudged
 through its inadequacies with the hope that upgrades were coming.
 Unfortunately, the Cone of Silence from Ubiquiti on this issue after
 more than a year caused me anghst.  I can see where this product works
 for newcomers to the industry as a billing and CRM product.  But I do
 agree that those operators that have more than a few hundred users are
 going to have serious qualms about opening up their network to an
 outside attack or even the possibility that there is some aspect of
 security that is out of their control.  We pay a lot of money every year
 for security products to protect our customers and although we are going
 to test and probably startup WISPs to this product, I don't see it as a
 large operational management tool specifically because of the unknown
 control issue.  If Russia can hack our SCADA system, probably the North
 Koreans can hack Sony, the Chinese pretty much anything they want to
 including our most secured military and technical secrets, I'm a little
 nervous letting some outside entity control my network.

 Here is my question, if the cloud gets hacked and someone takes down my
 network causing me great financial harm (kind of like Green toughcable),
 who am I suing?  I know the same argument can be made for AirControl now
 but that device should be behind a firewall with security at the
 operating system level managed by the WISP.  The exposure is far lower.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:25 PM
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 Hmmm,  I think someone is really trying hard to emulate Steve Jobs...
 He always knew what his customers _really_ needed...   Sometimes he was
 spot on...  Sometimes he tried to float bricks...  Didn't hear about
 those products...

 On 12/03/2014 05:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:
 Well said.

 In the alpha forums we gave them every possible combination of onsite
 hosting that you could think of that we would be happy to use for this

 project. Virtual appliances  and an actual hardware appliances that
 they sell were 2 that I thought would be the easiest.

 Fell on deaf ears though.

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company.  We aren't
 like Apple consumers.  For the most part, most of us are not buying
 these products to jack with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee.  We
 are
 out on towers, in all kinds of weather, deploying these.   No matter
 the
 driving factor, the majority of these networks are here to make money.
 I, for one, have bet my house and my future on UBNT products in the
 past.  It was no different than betting on another vendor, but I chose

 UBNT for several reasons.  Price was a factor but not the only one.

 Robert and Staff, please don't misunderstand the passion for these
 folks
 being fanboys.   Sure, the inner geek in everyone wants the shiny new
 gadget.  But at the end of the day we all want to go home and be able
 to set our thermostat at 71 instead of 50.  :-) This is about
 providing a service and being in business.  Tools like AirControl
 means we can do that extra install instead of having the programmer
 spend their time figuring out how to pull data from the radio or dump
 into some 3rd party app.  We all know monitoring and proactive
 solutions are essential in this business.  I want to know if my
 business customers are getting what they pay for.  If I have SLA
 customers I want to prove to them we are living up to expectations.
 Having that data might mean keeping them or not. A complete product
 family means we have a lower TCO.

 Now, back to perception.  If I am putting my house on the line would I

 continue to do so for a company that hasn't finished a key product
 like AC in how many years? Version 1 never was completed.  V2 is now
 dead.
 What about the Mfi cloud? I want to be able to trust a company with my

 livelihood. Sure, a software product isn't the same as a 

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl

[Kees H]

Here is the post



Hi Guys --



Thanks for all the feedback.  Here are some quick thoughts from our side:



1. The goal behind our CRM solution is to level the playing field between Tier 
1 operators and you guys.  We have invested significant RD resources over the 
past couple years towards providing powerful business software technology which 
would allow your businesses and networks to scale faster and more efficiently.  
Our goal has always been to accelerate the growth of our entire Industry and 
make you guys more successful.



2. We have some powerful features planned that take advantage of the 
centralized hosting and that is why we decided on a cloud framework



3. A significant piece of Ubiquiti's DNA is about listening to our community.  
We hear the message about the local hosting requirement loud and clear.  We 
have started on it now and will have solution for local hosting



Consider what we have available now as an option to try out.  For those of you 
that will hold off until the local hosting option is available, please feel 
free to try out the UI and direction and let us know what you think.





Thanks,

Robert



  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Moore 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 8:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl


  Hi Kees - 


  There actually have been a number of posts in a few different places.  Hard 
to make sure it happens in all of the places.  Here is a link to one post from 
Robert:


  
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/Ubiquiti-Announcements-and-News/Announcing-airCRM-The-Ultimate-ISP-Management-Platform/ba-p/1118026/page/2#comments



  Thanks,
  Ben






  On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:

Matt @ UBNT

I do believe it is time for you to go to the upper management and have them
make a comment.  The issues that have been so elequently stated in this and
other posts in this last week need to be addressed.  The silence from UBNT
is deafening and shakes my confidence in UBNT.

Please keep us informed.


 Guys, you have good points. I believe though, the problem here isn't
 just the product, it's the message.  The reality is that it wouldn't
 take that many more resources to finish and update AC2.  I thought it
 had a bunch of bells and whistles I could have lived without and that
 functionality was more important but that wasn't my call.  We fudged
 through its inadequacies with the hope that upgrades were coming.
 Unfortunately, the Cone of Silence from Ubiquiti on this issue after
 more than a year caused me anghst.  I can see where this product works
 for newcomers to the industry as a billing and CRM product.  But I do
 agree that those operators that have more than a few hundred users are
 going to have serious qualms about opening up their network to an
 outside attack or even the possibility that there is some aspect of
 security that is out of their control.  We pay a lot of money every year
 for security products to protect our customers and although we are going
 to test and probably startup WISPs to this product, I don't see it as a
 large operational management tool specifically because of the unknown
 control issue.  If Russia can hack our SCADA system, probably the North
 Koreans can hack Sony, the Chinese pretty much anything they want to
 including our most secured military and technical secrets, I'm a little
 nervous letting some outside entity control my network.

 Here is my question, if the cloud gets hacked and someone takes down my
 network causing me great financial harm (kind of like Green toughcable),
 who am I suing?  I know the same argument can be made for AirControl now
 but that device should be behind a firewall with security at the
 operating system level managed by the WISP.  The exposure is far lower.

 Rory

 -Original Message-
 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:25 PM
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 Hmmm,  I think someone is really trying hard to emulate Steve Jobs...
 He always knew what his customers _really_ needed...   Sometimes he was
 spot on...  Sometimes he tried to float bricks...  Didn't hear about
 those products...

 On 12/03/2014 05:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:
 Well said.

 In the alpha forums we gave them every possible combination of onsite
 hosting that you could think of that we would be happy to use for this

 project. Virtual appliances  and an actual hardware appliances that
 they sell were 2 that I thought would be the easiest.

 Fell on deaf ears though.

 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users-boun

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl

[Kees H]

Absolutely.  PTL
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg Osborn 
  To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' 
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl


  3. A significant piece of Ubiquiti's DNA is about listening to our community. 
 We hear the message about the local hosting requirement loud and clear.  We 
have started on it now and will have solution for local hosting. Read as, It 
came up in a meeting today.  That's a start, right?

   

   

   

  -Original Message-
  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Kees H
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:56 AM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ?? was New airControl

   

  I don't expect that (hence the upper management comment).  But I know that 
Ben and Matt monitor this list.  I also know that many on this list have 
mentioned that they do not monitor the UBNT forum.  ( I for one do not have the 
time)  I am glad that when issues like these come up, Ben or Matt can follow up 
on it.

   

   

   

   Kees,

   

   I do not think Robert Pera follows this list, but he did respond to 

   AirCRM concerns on the Ubiquiti forum:

   

   

   Hi Guys --

   

   Thanks for all the feedback.  Here are some quick thoughts from our side:

   

   1. The goal behind our CRM solution is to level the playing field 

   between Tier 1 operators and you guys.  We have invested significant 

   RD resources over the past couple years towards providing powerful 

   business software technology which would allow your businesses and 

   networks to scale faster and more efficiently.  Our goal has always 

   been to accelerate the growth of our entire Industry and make you guys more 
successful.

   

   2. We have some powerful features planned that take advantage of the 

   centralized hosting and that is why we decided on a cloud framework

   

   3. A significant piece of Ubiquiti's DNA is about listening to our 

   community.  We hear the message about the local hosting requirement 

   loud and clear.  We have started on it now and will have solution for 

   local hosting

   

   Consider what we have available now as an option to try out.  For 

   those of you that will hold off until the local hosting option is 

   available, please feel free to try out the UI and direction and let us know 
what you think.

   

   Thanks,

   

   Robert

   

   

   

   - Original Message -

   From: Kees H

   Sent: 12/4/2014 10:41:53 AM

   To: ubnt_users@wispa.org

   Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT SILENCE ??  was  New airControl

   

   Matt @ UBNT

   

   I do believe it is time for you to go to the upper management and 

   have them make a comment.  The issues that have been so elequently 

   stated in this and other posts in this last week need to be 

   addressed.  The silence from UBNT is deafening and shakes my 

   confidence in UBNT.

   

   Please keep us informed.

   

   

Guys, you have good points. I believe though, the problem here 

isn't just the product, it's the message.  The reality is that it 

wouldn't take that many more resources to finish and update AC2.  I 

thought it had a bunch of bells and whistles I could have lived 

without and that functionality was more important but that wasn't 

my call.  We fudged through its inadequacies with the hope that upgrades 
were coming.

Unfortunately, the Cone of Silence from Ubiquiti on this issue 

after more than a year caused me anghst.  I can see where this 

product works for newcomers to the industry as a billing and CRM 

product.  But I do agree that those operators that have more than a 

few hundred users are going to have serious qualms about opening up 

their network to an outside attack or even the possibility that 

there is some aspect of security that is out of their control.  We 

pay a lot of money every year for security products to protect our 

customers and although we are going to test and probably startup 

WISPs to this product, I don't see it as a large operational 

management tool specifically because of the unknown control issue.  

If Russia can hack our SCADA system, probably the North Koreans can 

hack Sony, the Chinese pretty much anything they want to including 

our most secured military and technical secrets, I'm a little 

nervous letting some outside entity control my network.

   

Here is my question, if the cloud gets hacked and someone takes 

down my network causing me great financial harm (kind of like Green 

toughcable), who am I suing?  I know the same argument can be made 

for AirControl now but that device should be behind a firewall with 

security at the operating system level managed by the WISP.  The 

exposure is far lower.

   

Rory

   

-Original Message

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

Well in the early 80's we had stand-alone wordprocessors.  (yes with a whopping 
32k of ram!)  then the mid 80 we went to shared systems  the centrol box with 
many stand-alones hanging from it.  Then PCs came out and IBM sold everyone on 
the concept that everyone should have all the data on their own PC.  Then 
Novell  MS started servers and we went back to the network model.  And now we 
added the wide area network.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



  haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend reverses every 
what, 10 years?
  so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server less cloud 
again?

  some things belong in the cloud.  most things do not.

  (my take on things)


- Original Message - 
From: Steve Barnes 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud 
based management tool. 

 

However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and 
not having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore said that 
we would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind of thought 
about a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.

 

Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest 
market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.  I 
expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms worldwide.  I 
assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud based. Everything from 
AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and even thermostat controlled 
from the cloud. 

 

The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is 
moving this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs and 
converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote monitoring and 
control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to Servers and 
workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work load but sees now 
he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less control.  All he does 
now is move wires and swap equipment. 

 

All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in the 
cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think lots of 
WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their networks and 
we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend.

 

Steven Barnes

GM

PCSWIN.com

Howard LLC.

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 

Well right. That's why I said few and not none.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com








From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the public beta today.

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  It was announced today, so few are familiar.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: Robert Andrews nos...@avantwireless.com
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

  Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that 
point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what is 
the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around )...



  On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection 
to the cloud.

(to be fair)

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your 
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are on your 
cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess what can be 
forced to update for compliance with or without your say so... Hm  On 
12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:Why would 
I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend.

Steve, you know the saying The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is 
that good men should do nothing.  


And Follow the money trail  We know UBNT is not in the business to give 
things away.  Hence if they can't make money of this cloud based app, it will 
soon go the way of the dodo.

”




From: Steve Barnes 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based 
management tool. 

   

  However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and not 
having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben Moore said that we 
would not have to worry about that in the next version I kind of thought about 
a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly not”.

   

  Another point that I want to make is that US WISPs are not their largest 
market.  I am sure that it is a large market for them but not the largest.  I 
expect they are trying to be uniform across all their platforms worldwide.  I 
assume we will see Unifi and Mfi eventually go ALL Cloud based. Everything from 
AP, CPE, Router, WiFi, Lights, Phones, Cameras, and even thermostat controlled 
from the cloud. 

   

  The hacking possibility of all this is huge.  But everything I see is moving 
this way.  The local school Corp in our area just released 2 techs and 
converted ever thing they could to virtual off-site with remote monitoring and 
control of all equipment from WiFi Aps and Net Switches to Servers and 
workstations.  The IT Manager says he loves the reduced work load but sees now 
he has handed the keys to someone else and has a lot less control.  All he does 
now is move wires and swap equipment. 

   

  All the NEST products, personal IP Security Cameras all are already in the 
cloud. The general techy populous are starting to except it.  I think lots of 
WISPs will be less likely since they feel less in control of their networks and 
we are all about control. But I don’t think we are going to stop this trend.

   

  Steven Barnes

  GM

  PCSWIN.com

  Howard LLC.

   

  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 10:37 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

   

  Well right. That's why I said few and not none.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com






--

  From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
  To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:36:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

  It was in alpha for 7-8 months before it hit the public beta today.

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

It was announced today, so few are familiar.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: Robert Andrews nos...@avantwireless.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:22:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that 
point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but what is 
the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around )...



On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection to 
the cloud.

  (to be fair)

josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your 
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are on your 
cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess what can be 
forced to update for compliance with or without your say so... Hm  On 
12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:Why would 
I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of myradios?  Don't 
they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?But it's CLOUD. 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

Don't get me wrong.  I would love it if the product works as advertised.  But 
as with the unifi software.  Allow me to load it on my server.  That is all I 
ask for.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Peoples 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least that's what my wife tells 
me). 


  What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this, and objectively judge 
the final product. They might accidentally get it right. At worst, when it 
comes out of beta and doesn't work, don't use it and if enough folks do the 
same, they won't mess with it, it will be depreciated and the team that makes 
it will be re-assigned. 
  Also, from the security standpoint I'm just saying that it won't be any more 
insecure than any other solution, just because it is a cloud based offering. 


  Someone also made a comment that I interrupted as cambium could do it 
better, to which I was just saying YES THEY CAN, because they have the 
additional financial assistance of a upscale ap/cpe combination to support it.



  Daniel Peoples
  Resonance Broadband

  Resonancebroadband.com
  918-429-3620




  On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

You've completely lost me.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


The revenue of the epmp line doesn't support much. 


And actually, how much DOES cambium make off those things?



Daniel Peoples
Resonance Broadband

Resonancebroadband.com
918-429-3620




On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

  ePMP doesn't support what?




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





--

  From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:52:00 AM

  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does.



  Daniel Peoples
  Resonance Broadband

  Resonancebroadband.com
  918-429-3620




  On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move 
over.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a 
great big poo stain. 


If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial 
spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will 
eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a $100 
radio to support a tool like this. 
Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they 
have ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much 
so they can support these tools.


If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than likely mature 
into something that is MUCH better than ac 1 or 2 , and something that actually 
on the billing side approaches a real billing software and CPE management 
system. 


All of this said, I run AC1 for management and swiftfox for billing, 
the two programs both do exactly what I want from them, and that is ALL I want 
them to do. If ubnt makes a product that does both functions and is around the 
same price or even higher per cpe, then hoo rah, saves me complexity in billing 
and management.


As for the cloud side of this, yes it will always have more 
vulnerabilities than my ac1 server that doesn't even know where the internet 
is, but you have to put your billing system on the internet so that it can 
process a CC, and don't forget that your azotel or your powercode bmu sets IN 
the data stream. DDOS the box and your entire internet connection dies, because 
they have you to route the information through the hardware.

BUT at the same time, my new installer doesn't even know that ac1 
exists passed me showing him stat graphs, and he couldn't possibly hope to 
learn how you tie all of that stuff together to make the solid picture that I 
do when 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity

[Kees H]

Airview need to be manually changed.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kees H 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity


  Are youtalking about site survey or airview?

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity


I'm wondering how long the site survey page takes to refresh.  I've got a 
scan on it showing a backhaul that is/was 5660 but I've changed that to 5765 
about 20 minutes ago.  I manually scan and still see it on the wrong 
frequency...



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

[Kees H]

If there is a web browser that runs on watches that is all you need.  I already 
check the signals for an install on my smart phone.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on 
my watch


  This is a good idea! I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work... it's 
just a matter of getting somebody to make an app.
  It looks like there actually is a web browser that runs on the watches, so it 
might even be possible already, although I'm guessing that wouldn't be very 
usable.



--

  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 12:59 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on 
my watch


  Can you configure or do anything with it at all?  Or is it a dumb device 
where you pair it and you're options are done with.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jason Pond p...@grizzlyinternet.com wrote:

I have the Samsung gear fit.  


It is not the full blown watch.


Simple display connects via Bluetooth, shows clock, current temp / weather 
status as pulled from Accuweather app.  


Shows number / name of who is calling or sent a text.



Can reply with pre-canned message via text. 


Used for pedometer, hiking, biking, walking w/ gps track back to phone,


Meeting reminders, can show e-mails also ( I do not use this feature) 


I have not played with any android programming these are the built in 
features.


I have not tried this with another phone but I think it might be Samsung 
proprietary.


Sincerely,
 
Jason Pond

Grizzly Internet, Inc


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

  Well first off the iPhone watch isn't even out and second of all I think 
Android is majority.  So Android first!!! 


  Does anyone have an Android watch at all?  Can you share some details 
about it (how it connects to the phone, what kind of API you get, what 
capabilities it has?)




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
wrote:

What about the iPhone watch?


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 12/1/14, 1:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 First use I've found for an Android watch.



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 

 *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 12:07:20 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal
 readout on mywatch

 That is a fabulous idea.



 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.



 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 12:45 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal 
readout

 on my watch



 Has anyone tried to get into this project?  I'd love to have an 
Android
 watch connected to my phone which would go to the backhaul or CPE for 
a
 signal readout to display on the watch.  Hopefully someone can make 
this
 as easy as buying a watch! =)



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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

It surprises me that they did not ask wispa.  They are on this group.  Who 
better to tell them what wisps are looking for.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time.




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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
  To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that over a 
year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to their faces) NO, we do 
not want this.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.

It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to compete with 
the Geo Metro.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com







From: Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only hosted in the 
cloud.

How could UBNT go this long without a functional control platform only to 
fuck it up this badly?




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Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

[Kees H]

I hear ya.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on 
my watch


  I'd like to free that hand if possible

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Dec 1, 2014 6:44 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:

If there is a web browser that runs on watches that is all you need.  I 
already check the signals for an install on my smart phone.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal 
readout on my watch


  This is a good idea! I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work... it's 
just a matter of getting somebody to make an app.
  It looks like there actually is a web browser that runs on the watches, 
so it might even be possible already, although I'm guessing that wouldn't be 
very usable.



--

  From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 12:59 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal 
readout on my watch


  Can you configure or do anything with it at all?  Or is it a dumb device 
where you pair it and you're options are done with.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jason Pond p...@grizzlyinternet.com 
wrote:

I have the Samsung gear fit.  


It is not the full blown watch.


Simple display connects via Bluetooth, shows clock, current temp / 
weather status as pulled from Accuweather app.  


Shows number / name of who is calling or sent a text.



Can reply with pre-canned message via text. 


Used for pedometer, hiking, biking, walking w/ gps track back to phone,


Meeting reminders, can show e-mails also ( I do not use this feature) 


I have not played with any android programming these are the built in 
features.


I have not tried this with another phone but I think it might be 
Samsung proprietary.


Sincerely,
 
Jason Pond

Grizzly Internet, Inc


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Well first off the iPhone watch isn't even out and second of all I 
think Android is majority.  So Android first!!! 


  Does anyone have an Android watch at all?  Can you share some details 
about it (how it connects to the phone, what kind of API you get, what 
capabilities it has?)




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Matt Hoppes 
mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:

What about the iPhone watch?


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 12/1/14, 1:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 First use I've found for an Android watch.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 

 *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 12:07:20 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a 
signal
 readout on mywatch

 That is a fabulous idea.



 *Steven Barnes*

 GM

 PCSWIN.com

 Howard LLC.



 *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 12:45 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal 
readout

 on my watch



 Has anyone tried to get

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

Oh and their cloud solution does not need to be hacked.  What about a 
disgruntled ubnt employee changing all the ssid's, logins and passwords of 
all the connected cloud solution radios.  Do I hear Taps playing?



 Most ISPs in general like our management network to stay... private.
 These are probably the same people who run everything in one broadcast
 domain.

 As I said on the forums, if my network AC server gets hacked, that's my
 problem. If their cloud solution has an exploit in it, then its
 everyone's problem.

 On 12/1/2014 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 They have my e-mail address. They have the e-mail addresses for all of
 us at The Brothers WISP. It's not like we're idiots. We'll gladly tell
 them what we want and what they should\shouldn't do. They haven't
 taken us up on that offer.



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 *From: *Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 
 It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group.
 Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 
 *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
 *To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that
 over a year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to
 their faces) NO, we do not want this.

 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I don't know how anyone could read their target market this 
 badly.

 It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to
 compete with the Geo Metro.



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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 
 
 *From: *Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
 *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] New airControl

 It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only
 hosted in the cloud.

 How could UBNT go this long without a functional control
 platform only to fuck it up this badly?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

Yup..  That is what those actresses said.  My pictures are safe in the cloud 
after all it is the CLOUD.


 On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
 Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
 radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?


 But it's CLOUD.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

Because they listened to the people on their forum



  That looks like it would be a great solution for a wisp with, oh say, 50 
customers and no intention of growing...

  That looks really terrible. Why would they think that was a good idea? 


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of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:35 PM
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.

  It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to compete with 
the Geo Metro.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





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  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] New airControl


  It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only hosted in the 
cloud.

  How could UBNT go this long without a functional control platform only to 
fuck it up this badly?




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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Kees H]

elaborate please.

 
 
 But are we really their target market?
 
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