subject:"tRev"


Meanwhile, on Planet Linux, we do not even have one editor that works. 
That's right folks, the built in editor, if you do cut and paste with it,
freezes. You then close it down, and it crashes the IDE along with it, so
you lose all unsaved work.

How hard is it to make an editor that does cut and paste without freezing? 
I do not know of one editor that freezes while doing cut and paste.  I
should think you would have to go out of your way to write one that DOES
freeze.  

This post is not about editors, this post is about respect.
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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin


Peter Alcibiades wrote:

Meanwhile, on Planet Linux, we do not even have one editor that works.
That's right folks, the built in editor, if you do cut and paste with it,
freezes. You then close it down, and it crashes the IDE along with it, so
you lose all unsaved work.


On Planet Ubuntu 9.10, I just opened Rev, made a stack, opened its 
script, typed some text, cut it, pasted it, copied it, pasted it -- all 
good.


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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus

Here is the recipe.

Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts.

Now open any script in the editor.

Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field

Select and copy the name of the field

Paste it into the script. I think I used middle click, but think I have
also used control-v in the past.

It should freeze, flickering rapidly. Then when you close the window of the
editor, the whole IDE crashes.

I just did it, 30 seconds ago on this machine, and as expected, it happened.
I did it a couple times this afternoon on a different computer when I just
forgot that it was going to happen - I was working on redoing the
application so as to eliminate the need to use print card, and needed to
take the name of the fields into the script, so as to put the contents of
them into a variable and then put this variable into a text file. Which,
after manually reformatting it in rtf, I will then be able to open in a word
processor and print in acceptable format.

What a totally insane thing to be forced to be doing in the first place, but
that is by the way.

I have also had on earlier versions extreme slowdowns of the editor, where
the cursor took a half second or so to move from one position in the line to
another. Or typed characters showed up only after about a half second
delay.

This is a complete farce. I'm an amateur, I don't charge, and I'd never
let stuff at this crap level of quality out the door. Do they do any
testing at all?

Peter
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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin


Peter Alcibiades wrote:

Here is the recipe.

Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts.

Now open any script in the editor.

Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field

Select and copy the name of the field

Paste it into the script.  I think I used middle click, but think I have
also used control-v in the past.

It should freeze, flickering rapidly.  Then when you close the window of the
editor, the whole IDE crashes.


I just followed that recipe to the letter, using Rev v4.0 on Ubuntu 
9.10/Gnome 2.28.1.


To test I used a copy of my WebMerge stack, with just under 300 objects 
on its card.  The script I used was the main processing engine for the 
app, more than 4600 lines worth.


Worked a treat.

So I kept trying, copying text from the Inspector, elsewhere in the 
script, pasting all over the place, drag-n-drop -- all worked fine.


I don't know enough about either your system or Rev to guess where the 
problem lies, but here I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu.


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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus


On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems
it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with
very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running
in Sun's non-free Virtual Box on one of them, and did the same thing, and
got just about the same result.  This time it was a freeze which the only
way out of was to shutdown the session in X windows by force.

Now this is a barebones install of Slitaz, which is itself just about as as
bare as you can get, the only thing it has on it, apart from the base
system, is Rev Studio gm1, 4.0.0, build 950, ligthpttd, user space NFS.  It
does not even have CUPS or printing or Office installed.   It uses PCManFM
and Open Box, whereas on my real system its Thunar and Fluxbox, and on the
ones in the office they are on Gnome with Nautilus.

So, what are we going to suggest next?  Is it the wrong kind of code?  Is
there something about the way I've written my app that can cause the IDE
editor to crash during cut and paste? Is that really possible?


Peter

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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus


And in case anyone wonders, do I have the latest version, yes.  At least,
that is what check for updates says.
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Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus

2010-04-10 Thread Jerry Daniels

Changing the subject of this post would not hurt my feelings, since very 
comment to it is about problems with the Linux version of Revolution's script 
editor.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch

On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk 
wrote:

 
 On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems
 it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with
 very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running
 in Sun's non-free Virtual Box on one of them, and did the same thing, and
 got just about the same result.  This time it was a freeze which the only
 way out of was to shutdown the session in X windows by force.
 
 Now this is a barebones install of Slitaz, which is itself just about as as
 bare as you can get, the only thing it has on it, apart from the base
 system, is Rev Studio gm1, 4.0.0, build 950, ligthpttd, user space NFS.  It
 does not even have CUPS or printing or Office installed.   It uses PCManFM
 and Open Box, whereas on my real system its Thunar and Fluxbox, and on the
 ones in the office they are on Gnome with Nautilus.
 
 So, what are we going to suggest next?  Is it the wrong kind of code?  Is
 there something about the way I've written my app that can cause the IDE
 editor to crash during cut and paste? Is that really possible?
 
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [ANN] Colorize and link while you type in tRev

2010-03-27 Thread Marcio Alexandroni

Hi Jerry,

Great implementation Jerry, it really helps a lot coding with tRev! And
thanks for accepting the suggestion, I really need to say you are fast, I
wrote you asking if you had plans for this feature about 10 days ago and
it's ready!

Cheers!

Marcio Alexandroni
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 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:44 -0500
 To: How to Use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: [ANN] Colorize and link while you type in tRev
 
 Script and object editor aficionados,
 
 We have added real time colorization and handler linking to tRev this
 week. Check out the video:
 
 http://reveditor.com/colorize-while-you-type
 
 New colorize preference:
 - Colorize smoothly while you type, delete or backspace
+ also creates handler links while you type
+ quoted strings without ending quote are colored red
+ left parens without matching right parens are colored red
+ after fetching object name for code during transparent
 inspection, string is colorized
 - Pasting into source field now colorizes pasted text
 - Comments colorized after commenting and uncommenting
 - Side effect: no insertion point lag while typing
 
 Enhanced auto-completion:
 - Auto-completion (clairvoyance) now faster, smoother (less screen
 blink)
 - This occurs in real time on keyDown rather than on the rebound
 during keyUp
 - Works with or without Colorize While Typing
 
 Enhanced commenting:
 - If the last line of a selection has no words in it, it will not be
 commented/uncommented
 - This is my favorite enhancement...been waiting for this for years
 
 Fixes:
 - Commenting entire handler no longer removes empty line after handler
 - Quiting tRev with a dirty tab no longer asks twice if it's ok
 - Stacks updating in browser more dependably
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels
 
 Buy tRev during your 7 day free trial and get 20% off:
 http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch
 
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Re: [ANN] Colorize and link while you type in tRev

2010-03-27 Thread Jerry Daniels


Marcio,

Glad you like the feature!

tRev's live text coloring was challenging because it has to include  
links to handlers. I found a way to make it work using a combination  
of arrays and htmltext.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Mar 27, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio Alexandroni wrote:


Hi Jerry,

Great implementation Jerry, it really helps a lot coding with tRev!  
And
thanks for accepting the suggestion, I really need to say you are  
fast, I
wrote you asking if you had plans for this feature about 10 days ago  
and

it's ready!

Cheers!

Marcio Alexandroni
www.cialogica.com.br
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:44 -0500
To: How to Use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: [ANN] Colorize and link while you type in tRev

Script and object editor aficionados,

We have added real time colorization and handler linking to tRev this
week. Check out the video:

   http://reveditor.com/colorize-while-you-type

New colorize preference:
- Colorize smoothly while you type, delete or backspace
  + also creates handler links while you type
  + quoted strings without ending quote are colored red
  + left parens without matching right parens are colored red
  + after fetching object name for code during transparent
inspection, string is colorized
- Pasting into source field now colorizes pasted text
- Comments colorized after commenting and uncommenting
- Side effect: no insertion point lag while typing

Enhanced auto-completion:
- Auto-completion (clairvoyance) now faster, smoother (less screen
blink)
- This occurs in real time on keyDown rather than on the rebound
during keyUp
- Works with or without Colorize While Typing

Enhanced commenting:
- If the last line of a selection has no words in it, it will not be
commented/uncommented
- This is my favorite enhancement...been waiting for this for years

Fixes:
- Commenting entire handler no longer removes empty line after  
handler

- Quiting tRev with a dirty tab no longer asks twice if it's ok
- Stacks updating in browser more dependably

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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[ANN] Colorize and link while you type in tRev

2010-03-26 Thread Jerry Daniels


Script and object editor aficionados,

We have added real time colorization and handler linking to tRev this  
week. Check out the video:


   http://reveditor.com/colorize-while-you-type

New colorize preference:
- Colorize smoothly while you type, delete or backspace
  + also creates handler links while you type
  + quoted strings without ending quote are colored red
  + left parens without matching right parens are colored red
  + after fetching object name for code during transparent  
inspection, string is colorized

- Pasting into source field now colorizes pasted text
- Comments colorized after commenting and uncommenting
- Side effect: no insertion point lag while typing

Enhanced auto-completion:
- Auto-completion (clairvoyance) now faster, smoother (less screen  
blink)
- This occurs in real time on keyDown rather than on the rebound  
during keyUp

- Works with or without Colorize While Typing

Enhanced commenting:
- If the last line of a selection has no words in it, it will not be  
commented/uncommented

- This is my favorite enhancement...been waiting for this for years

Fixes:
- Commenting entire handler no longer removes empty line after handler
- Quiting tRev with a dirty tab no longer asks twice if it's ok
- Stacks updating in browser more dependably

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Buy tRev during your 7 day free trial and get 20% off:
http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch

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[ANN] tRev fetches object names during transparent inspection!

2010-03-19 Thread Jerry Daniels


Fellow Revolutionistas,

We have a new video posted on our site, and a new version of tRev
available for download today. Check it out:

   http://reveditor.com/fetch-object-name-during-transparent-inspecti

Here's an overview of today's new features:

- Transparent Inspection will now fetch an object name
   * Control+space will fetch long name of object
   * Shift+control+space will fetch short name
   * If source code field is visible, fetched object name is  
insertedinto code

   * If no code showing, then fetched object name is saved to clipboard

- tRev immune to socket closure by Rev IDE and plugins (even resetAll)
- tRev works offline; even after opening the Rev dictionary
- Decoder variable data with long strings no longer overwrites lines
- Decoder var data now limited in length only by available memory
- Hit escape really fast to close tabs. No problem.

You can now download and use tRev for seven days without a reg code.
Download links in the video post references above.

Best,

Jerry Daniels
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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-11 Thread Jacopo Lupi

Hi Jerry,

thank you for this big release.

I mean... i love your software, some of the features of tRev are really useful 
and at the end of the work i feel i have to thank you.

I write just to make you noticed that the annoying bug with the absence of an 
internet connection is still there.
If i'm not connected to internet (i.e. while in train 3 hrs per day) i'm not 
able to use the save, compile or even to open scripts via the browser.

It happened only if i use the dictionary while offline an then i turn back to 
trev to continue work. I sent you, a couple of weeks ago, a report to replicate 
the bug.
The worst thing then is that i must copy the script from trev to the internal 
editor. Because as trev loses the connection all the changes are not been 
written to the script.

Can you fix this connection dependent issue? Or maybe alert the user when trev 
is unable to write on the real script underlaying in runrev?

Thank You very much for all your work.

Best
Jacopo

On 10/mar/2010, at 19.27, Jerry Daniels wrote:

 tRevors,
 
 Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the update and 
 installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such are faster, easier, 
 fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less interference with other processes 
 such as Rev IDE doing its accessing to its site during its startup.
 
 There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates sending 
 questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the docs first).
 
 Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing goin' on.
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-11 Thread Jerry Daniels


Jacopo,

Download tRev.app again right now from the site. I think your problem  
is solved. Let me know what you find via email?


je...@reveditor.com

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Jacopo Lupi wrote:


Hi Jerry,

thank you for this big release.

I mean... i love your software, some of the features of tRev are  
really useful and at the end of the work i feel i have to thank you.


I write just to make you noticed that the annoying bug with the  
absence of an internet connection is still there.
If i'm not connected to internet (i.e. while in train 3 hrs per day)  
i'm not able to use the save, compile or even to open scripts via  
the browser.


It happened only if i use the dictionary while offline an then i  
turn back to trev to continue work. I sent you, a couple of weeks  
ago, a report to replicate the bug.
The worst thing then is that i must copy the script from trev to the  
internal editor. Because as trev loses the connection all the  
changes are not been written to the script.


Can you fix this connection dependent issue? Or maybe alert the user  
when trev is unable to write on the real script underlaying in runrev?


Thank You very much for all your work.

Best
Jacopo

On 10/mar/2010, at 19.27, Jerry Daniels wrote:


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its  
accessing to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates  
sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the  
docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing  
goin' on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels


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[ANN] tRev build 301 released!


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its accessing  
to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates sending  
questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing goin'  
on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-10 Thread Mark Schonewille


Hi Jerry,

I noticed that tRev doesn't close tabs when stacks are closed or  
objects deleted by means of script, while messages are locked. Would  
it be possible to check whether objects still exist, when tabs come to  
the front? In one instance, I closed the tab of an button that no  
longer existed and found back the button script in the tab for the  
stack script.


I tried to contact you directly, but you or your ISP seem to have  
blocked e-mails that come from my server or local network.


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Op 10 mrt 2010, om 19:27 heeft Jerry Daniels het volgende geschreven:


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its  
accessing to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates  
sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the  
docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing  
goin' on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-10 Thread Mark Schonewille


Hi Jerry,

In addition to my previous e-mail...

Right after sending the previous e-mail, I found another problem. If I  
quit Revolution first and subsequently close the tRev window,  
intending to quit tRev, but that started Revolution again. That's a  
bit confusing and not very pleasant when you're in a hurry.


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Op 10 mrt 2010, om 19:27 heeft Jerry Daniels het volgende geschreven:


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its  
accessing to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates  
sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the  
docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing  
goin' on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther



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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!


Mark,

Auto closing tabs of deleted objects while messages locked...always  
tricky. I like your work-around tho. Lemme think about it some as  
regards implementation.


I have several email addresses. If one doesn't work try another. Also  
we have retired the daniels-mara.com domain in favor of danielsmara.com.


je...@revmentor.com
je...@danielsmara.com
je...@reveditor.com

Also, I was having trouble getting my mail from one of those accounts  
over the last week, so it might have been a server snafu that bit you.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/trev-build-301-is-here

On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Jerry,

I noticed that tRev doesn't close tabs when stacks are closed or  
objects deleted by means of script, while messages are locked. Would  
it be possible to check whether objects still exist, when tabs come  
to the front? In one instance, I closed the tab of an button that no  
longer existed and found back the button script in the tab for the  
stack script.


I tried to contact you directly, but you or your ISP seem to have  
blocked e-mails that come from my server or local network.


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Op 10 mrt 2010, om 19:27 heeft Jerry Daniels het volgende geschreven:


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its  
accessing to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates  
sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the  
docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing  
goin' on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!


Mark,

As you now know, quitting Rev will always close down tRev. If you jump  
over to tRev to close it while Rev is shutting down, it's not easy for  
tRev to tell if Rev is still running or not. You caught tRev with his  
Rev down.


Best,

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On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Jerry,

In addition to my previous e-mail...

Right after sending the previous e-mail, I found another problem. If  
I quit Revolution first and subsequently close the tRev window,  
intending to quit tRev, but that started Revolution again. That's a  
bit confusing and not very pleasant when you're in a hurry.


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Op 10 mrt 2010, om 19:27 heeft Jerry Daniels het volgende geschreven:


tRevors,

Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the  
update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such  
are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less  
interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its  
accessing to its site during its startup.


There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates  
sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the  
docs first).


Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing  
goin' on.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther



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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Sneidar

Har! 

On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

 You caught tRev with his Rev down.

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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!


Somebody is as corny as me. Midwest blood is my excuse.

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:


Har!

On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


You caught tRev with his Rev down.


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Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!

2010-03-10 Thread Mark Schonewille


Hi Jerry,

No, that didn't happen, although it is possible that my scripts closed  
one of the tRev stacks that are needed for communication with tRev. It  
would be nice if you could solve this problem too, because closing  
stacks with messages locked is the main reason why Rev's script editor  
locks up. Of course, I usually make sure not to close IDE stacks, but  
when I receive stacks from clients, they may very well cause tRev's  
stacks to close.


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Op 10 mrt 2010, om 22:36 heeft Jerry Daniels het volgende geschreven:


Mark,

As you now know, quitting Rev will always close down tRev. If you  
jump over to tRev to close it while Rev is shutting down, it's not  
easy for tRev to tell if Rev is still running or not. You caught  
tRev with his Rev down.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther


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[ANN] tRev gets fixes and fine tuning!

2010-02-26 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRevors,

Here's what we got this week:

- Wrapping no longer gets turned off when using Decoder.
- Clicking handler links no longer mishandles the current selection.
- Closing a tab within a group of tabs no longer misnames the BROWSER  
tab.

- Scratch Pad resizes after saving a stack file from the Browser.

Updates available for registered users.

Big stuff in the works for next week!

Stay tuned...

Jerry Daniels

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Re: Decode in tRev

2010-02-20 Thread Jerry Daniels


Mark,

I happen to agree with you, objectively speaking—even though I wrote  
the tool you are praising. We have some improvements to Decoder in the  
works that will make it even more useful.


Since we opened up the tRev API, I'm happy to also report that others  
are working on plugins to broaden tRev's capabilities.


1. There is a third party modal debugger under construction that will  
work with tRev (and Rev without tRev).
2. Also under development, a plugin for tRev that will let you write,  
check syntax, decode and deploy On-Rev CGI scripts.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

The more I get familiar with this feature of tRev the more I like  
it.  It's quite a brilliant implementation.  Set all the breakpoints  
you want, and then, after your script has run, go back and step  
forward and backwards through each breakpoint snapshot, looking into  
each set of conditions/states just as they occurred at every point  
along the journey.  Just an excellent tool.


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[ANN] tRev now sporting 'background' tabs!

2010-02-19 Thread Jerry Daniels


Lovers of tabbed browsing of scripts,

This week's video shows you how to open scripts to objects in new tabs  
while remaining in the current tab.


http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther

Here are the details along with other improvements...

New Background Tabs
- Now you can open a tab to another object while staying in your  
current tab.

- This allows you to keep working in the browser or on a script.
- Use command key (control on PCs) to open a tab without going to it.
- Works on Browser line items, links-to-handlers in code, and the  
scratchpad.
- Command+double-clicking a line item in Browser no longer edits name  
of line item.


Easier Scratch pad locking
- When scratch pad is unlocked, escape key locks it.

Fixed
- If tRev thinks it's offline on startup, it now tries again.
- Scratch Pad contents now reliably preserved from session-to-session.
- When in zoom mode, controls in list can now be renamed.
- When in zoom mode and controls being renamed, escape key now exits  
renaming.


Best,

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Decode in tRev

2010-02-19 Thread Mark Swindell

The more I get familiar with this feature of tRev the more I like it.  It's 
quite a brilliant implementation.  Set all the breakpoints you want, and then, 
after your script has run, go back and step forward and backwards through each 
breakpoint snapshot, looking into each set of conditions/states just as they 
occurred at every point along the journey.  Just an excellent tool.  

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[tRev] tRev Crashing?

2010-02-16 Thread Andrew Kluthe


I just started trying to use tRev on win7 Ultimate. While it being very
useful, it crashes about twice an hour and I have to save and completely
exit Rev and re-open in order to get it back. 


Anyone else having this problem?

Specs:
Win7 ultimate
revEnterprise
tRev build 201 (the latest) 
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Re: [tRev] tRev Crashing?

2010-02-16 Thread Jerry Daniels


Andrew,

It might be a faulty install. Quit tRev, quit Rev and then launch tRev  
and immediately thereafter hold down the alt key. This will force a  
fresh install.


It's possible that there might also be an issue with an IP utility,  
firewall, etc. that interferes with updates. Rare, but it happens and  
we can deal with it.


Email me, and if we need to, I can send you a fresh version that  
doesn't require updating. That way we can eliminate the possible causes.


je...@reveditor.com

Best,

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On Feb 16, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:



I just started trying to use tRev on win7 Ultimate. While it being  
very
useful, it crashes about twice an hour and I have to save and  
completely

exit Rev and re-open in order to get it back.


Anyone else having this problem?

Specs:
Win7 ultimate
revEnterprise
tRev build 201 (the latest)
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Re: [tRev] tRev Crashing?

2010-02-16 Thread Andrew Kluthe


I did the fresh install and I will reportback when and if I get another
crash.


thanks!

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[ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!


Fellow Rev developers,

We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in  
tRev's snapshot mode:


http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

Here are the details:

NEW

Controls in Zoom:
- zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
- control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
- zoomed cards also have the scratch pad

Move controls in Zoom:
- controls in snaps can be dragged
- controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
- - plain arrow = 1 pixel
- - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
- - option arrow = align to next controls side

Tabs:
- first tab is always and only for the browser
- New Tab menu item removed from File and Tab menus.

Enhanced:
- larger/smaller font size on view menu w shortcut
- White on Black (aka Chalkboard) now on view menu w shortcut

Optimized:
- drag-n-drop in lists is more responsive, faster
- auto-scrolling during drag-n-drop in lists is faster, less quirky
- scrolling in all list fields and code field faster
- code displays faster
- browser columns populate faster (raw number of lines)

Fixed:
- tRev icon in Rev now remembers its location from session to session
- control counter no longer counts the controls in dataGrids
- inflated control counts kept script line counts from appearing in  
controls column

- alignment of all fields and buttons now perfecto

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!

2010-02-12 Thread David Coker

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
 Fellow Rev developers,

 We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's
 snapshot mode:

    http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

 Here are the details:

 NEW

 Controls in Zoom:
 - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
 - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
 - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad

 Move controls in Zoom:
 - controls in snaps can be dragged
 - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
 - - plain arrow = 1 pixel
 - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
 - - option arrow = align to next controls side

Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with
previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and
move control features and they are awesome!

It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have
a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I
believe that will now change with these new additions.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are
doing on tRev.
...it's just good stuff!

Best regards,
David C.
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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!


David,

Have to say, that's great to hear. Sometimes virtual shops like ours  
almost operate in a vacuum.


Glad that you're liking the product and the new zoom feature!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
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On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, David Coker wrote:

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels  
jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:

Fellow Rev developers,

We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in  
tRev's

snapshot mode:

   http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

Here are the details:

NEW

Controls in Zoom:
- zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
- control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
- zoomed cards also have the scratch pad

Move controls in Zoom:
- controls in snaps can be dragged
- controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
- - plain arrow = 1 pixel
- - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
- - option arrow = align to next controls side


Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with
previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and
move control features and they are awesome!

It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have
a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I
believe that will now change with these new additions.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are
doing on tRev.
...it's just good stuff!

Best regards,
David C.
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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!

2010-02-12 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Bonjour,

Great update Jerry !

I particularly appreciate that the first tab is now always and only  
for the browser
That makes it very easy to go to and fro between the browser and the  
object's code tabs (don't know if between is necessary! ;-)))

Thank a lot

Good week-end to all

Best regards from Grenoble

André

Le 12 févr. 10 à 16:54, Jerry Daniels a écrit :


Fellow Rev developers,

We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in  
tRev's snapshot mode:


   http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

Here are the details:

NEW

Controls in Zoom:
- zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
- control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
- zoomed cards also have the scratch pad

Move controls in Zoom:
- controls in snaps can be dragged
- controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
- - plain arrow = 1 pixel
- - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
- - option arrow = align to next controls side

Tabs:
- first tab is always and only for the browser
- New Tab menu item removed from File and Tab menus.

Enhanced:
- larger/smaller font size on view menu w shortcut
- White on Black (aka Chalkboard) now on view menu w shortcut

Optimized:
- drag-n-drop in lists is more responsive, faster
- auto-scrolling during drag-n-drop in lists is faster, less quirky
- scrolling in all list fields and code field faster
- code displays faster
- browser columns populate faster (raw number of lines)

Fixed:
- tRev icon in Rev now remembers its location from session to session
- control counter no longer counts the controls in dataGrids
- inflated control counts kept script line counts from appearing in  
controls column

- alignment of all fields and buttons now perfecto

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/not-enough-detail-in-a-card-snap-zoom-it

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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!


Andre,

That the second congratulations posted today. Glad you like the  
update! Very gratifying to hear.


You guys are making my weekend great and it's only Friday!

Jerry Daniels

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On Feb 12, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Andre.Bisseret wrote:


Bonjour,

Great update Jerry !

I particularly appreciate that the first tab is now always and only  
for the browser
That makes it very easy to go to and fro between the browser and the  
object's code tabs (don't know if between is necessary! ;-)))

Thank a lot

Good week-end to all

Best regards from Grenoble

André

Le 12 févr. 10 à 16:54, Jerry Daniels a écrit :


Fellow Rev developers,

We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in  
tRev's snapshot mode:


  http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

Here are the details:

NEW

Controls in Zoom:
- zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
- control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
- zoomed cards also have the scratch pad

Move controls in Zoom:
- controls in snaps can be dragged
- controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
- - plain arrow = 1 pixel
- - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
- - option arrow = align to next controls side

Tabs:
- first tab is always and only for the browser
- New Tab menu item removed from File and Tab menus.

Enhanced:
- larger/smaller font size on view menu w shortcut
- White on Black (aka Chalkboard) now on view menu w shortcut

Optimized:
- drag-n-drop in lists is more responsive, faster
- auto-scrolling during drag-n-drop in lists is faster, less quirky
- scrolling in all list fields and code field faster
- code displays faster
- browser columns populate faster (raw number of lines)

Fixed:
- tRev icon in Rev now remembers its location from session to session
- control counter no longer counts the controls in dataGrids
- inflated control counts kept script line counts from appearing in  
controls column

- alignment of all fields and buttons now perfecto

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/not-enough-detail-in-a-card-snap-zoom-it

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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Swindell

I have to second David's comments.  TRev is coming together nicely, a piece at 
a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome improvement over the previous 
Tab implementation.  It's hard for me to use the built-in Rev editor at this 
point, and I'm relying less and less on the Application Browser.

Mark

On Feb 12, 2010, at 10:09 AM, David Coker wrote:,

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
 Fellow Rev developers,
 
 We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's
 snapshot mode:
 
http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom
 
 Here are the details:
 
 NEW
 
 Controls in Zoom:
 - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls
 - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable
 - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad
 
 Move controls in Zoom:
 - controls in snaps can be dragged
 - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows
 - - plain arrow = 1 pixel
 - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid
 - - option arrow = align to next controls side
 
 Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with
 previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and
 move control features and they are awesome!
 
 It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have
 a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I
 believe that will now change with these new additions.
 
 Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are
 doing on tRev.
 ...it's just good stuff!
 
 Best regards,
 David C.
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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!

2010-02-12 Thread Bob Sneidar

Yes I feel myself being inexorably drawn into the world of tRev. I think when 
the script editor from GLX2 is reintroduced, (I forget who is working on that) 
I will use tRev exclusively. tRev's editor is awesome in lots of ways, but 
there are still times I have to have a step debugger, so the combination of 
tRev and the ability to switch to another debugger on the fly is like the 
perfect world. 

Bob


On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

 I have to second David's comments.  TRev is coming together nicely, a piece 
 at a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome improvement over the 
 previous Tab implementation.  It's hard for me to use the built-in Rev 
 editor at this point, and I'm relying less and less on the Application 
 Browser.
 
 Mark

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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!


Bob,

Glad you are grooving on tRev.

tRev has definitely changed the way I personally develop apps, mentor  
and work on projects for people. But the area where I've seen the most  
change in my own habits is in the debugging arena.


I used to debug in GLX2's and Rev's modal debugger a lot. I was quite  
dependent upon it. In fact, I think I was using it as part of my  
coding environment. My code got sloppier—I figured, Hey, I'll catch  
any problems in the debugger. Time spent coding was, well  
surprisingly lengthy. It would wear me out. I didn't realize it at the  
time, but in retrospect, that's what I think was happening.


I'd have to say that using tRev has changed my coding habits in general.

1. I spend much less time coding.
2. I spend about 80 to 90% less time debugging now as well.

Why is that?

I was somewhat mystified by this discovery, myself. Here's what I  
think has happened: my mind started working differently when I started  
using tRev. I really organize my code in the folders it provides in  
the handler lists, especially since I can drag and drop handlers  
wherever I like in the handler list's folders. I can actually find my  
handlers—even from older projects. The scratch pad containing links of  
frequently-worked handlers helps me find the handlers I'm working on,  
as do the links to handlers peppered through out my code, thanks to  
tRev.


The biggest thing I discovered about coding in RevTalk and xTalk is  
this: it's about the handlers.


How you get to them, how you organize them. The stats function in tRev  
even tells me my average handler size in a script. If the lines per  
handler is getting too big in a script, then I know I'm asking for  
rough sledding and wasting time. Coding in tRev is ALL about the  
handlers. When I realized this, I slapped my forehead and said: It's  
the handlers, stupid!


tRev has puts me in a better frame of mind: simple order.

That's how I'd describe it. tRev has really made it easier and  
encouraged me by its example (you could say). It's easier to follow my  
own simple coding standards (naming vars with good names, not using  
nested functions, indexing repeats with var names, not x, etc.). And  
the autocomplete feature really cut down on typos.


So, firstly, my need to debug is less, because my code was getting  
better. Then, when I did debug in tRev (we call it decoding), one  
glance at the decoder and errors seemed to jump out at me. Most of the  
time I don't even step through the breakpoints.


That said, our decoder (a modeless debugger that appears after a  
script has run with an historical record stored in a database of  
breakpoints) still has some features coming. We are working on better  
support for multi-dimensional arrays and fixing some display  
anomalies. We're also adding support for breakpoints in repeat loops  
that let you walk through the iterations of variable content in a loop— 
after the code has run, of course.


The biggest advantage of the debugger: its design/architecture keeps  
it completely out of Rev's way. It cannot really crash Rev or tRev.  
It's like a good doctor that does no harm.


People using tRev are challenged by the decoder because it is a  
completely different model. There is no debugger like it. But once you  
get to using it, and let it work on your head, you'll find some real  
rewards.


I am a very productive 61 year old coder and developer. You see here  
on this list just how often I update tRev with new features. I also do  
a significant amount of mentoring and project work for others. I also  
have a life with my family, community and friends outside of the  
technical world.


But since using tRev, I spend less time coding/developing and much  
more time enjoying it, blogging about it. tRev seems to give me a  
certain clarity of mind that GLX2, Galaxy, Constellation and Rev  
script editors did not.


Again, glad you're enjoying the product. It's encouraging to hear.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom

On Feb 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Yes I feel myself being inexorably drawn into the world of tRev. I  
think when the script editor from GLX2 is reintroduced, (I forget  
who is working on that) I will use tRev exclusively. tRev's editor  
is awesome in lots of ways, but there are still times I have to have  
a step debugger, so the combination of tRev and the ability to  
switch to another debugger on the fly is like the perfect world.


Bob


On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

I have to second David's comments.  TRev is coming together nicely,  
a piece at a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome  
improvement over the previous Tab implementation.  It's hard for  
me to use the built-in Rev editor at this point, and I'm relying  
less and less on the Application Browser.


Mark


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Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!

I meant to say: The biggest advantage of the decoder (not debugger)  
in my previous post.


On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

The biggest advantage of the debugger: its design/architecture keeps  
it completely out of Rev's way. It cannot really crash Rev or tRev.  
It's like a good doctor that does no harm.


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[ANN] Need more detail in tRev card snaps? ZOOM!

2010-02-05 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev Featue Friday aficionados,

We have had Card Snaphots in the tRev Object Browser for some time  
now. They are an excellent way to find a control in the browser when  
you don't know its name. But snaps are often miniatures of the actual  
card, making their smaller controls difficult to view.


Over-miniaturized card snaps are no longer a problem. There is now a  
small zoom button at the top left of all card snaps in tRev. Just  
click the zoom button to zoom and unzoom your snaps. There is also a  
Zoom Snaps menu item with its short cut under the View menu.


One video is worth thousands of words:

http://reveditor.com/not-enough-detail-in-a-card-snap-zoom-it

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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[ANN] tRev video showing greater Rev interoperability

2010-01-29 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev users and watchers,

What began as an optimization and bug fix update to tRev ended up with  
new features.


http://reveditor.com/greater-trev-to-rev-interoperability-and-more

NEW:
- Greater tRev-Rev interoperability:
   New Mainstack
   New Substack
   Open Stack...
   Open Recent Stack
- IDE check box now at top of Stacks column in Object Browser
   Used for showing Rev IDE and plugin stacks
   Only shows when Headers, Footers, Tooltips pref is ON
   Option-click a Browser tab to toggle IDE stacks on or off
- When one tab showing, a link to most recent tRev post shows
   Tooltip indicates date of most recent post or comment to post
   Prefix to link indicates type of post
- Basic tRev API published as a plugin

ENHANCED:
- tRev Msg Data Broker window in Rev
   Is now a palette placed at top right top of Rev dock
   Checking off use me stops using tRev editor/decoder only
   You can still use all the nice shortcuts, etc.
   Closing Broker window no longer turns tRev editor/decoder back  
on

- You can no longer open more than one Object Browser
- Errors, Definitions, Decoder, var fields  Stats fonts now resize

FIXED:
- Transparent inspection menu shortcut no longer repeats
- Handlers in list with handler tags now link properly to handler in  
code


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)

2010-01-26 Thread Jerry Daniels


Kay,

Go to http://reveditor.com and click on the Quickstart link on the  
right side of the page. I don't know what link you are using, but I  
did have to change the URL once last week. Your page may need  
refreshing.


You can also go to the docs from the help menu in the latest tRev.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/write-your-own-plugins-for-trev

On Jan 25, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:


Hi Jerry,

followed the iWork link and got:

Enter your Apple ID and password to view this document.

Your Apple ID must be entered in lowercase.
Document doesn't exist.

Document password is incorrect, or the document is no longer  
available.

Continue
The document you requested doesn't exist or is no longer active.

H, and that's really interesting. I just copied and pasted the  
dialog
text from the iWork site to here so I'd get the text absolutely  
correct, yet
on the dialog I can see only the first and last line above, the bit  
in the

middle magically appeared when I pasted into here.

Outcome is the same though, I can't check out your new and improved  
pdfs.


Thanks


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels  
jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:



tRev users,

We have just updated the documentation for tRev to accomodate the new
Scratch Pad feature with its new window style and multi-instance
architecture. Here's the link to a page with links to the  
Quickstart guide

and the Shortcuts.

  http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom

These nice little PDFs are hosted on iWork.com and view really  
well, let
you download them or print them. Best of all, there is no log-in of  
any sort

required.

We've also enhanced the Scratch Pad editing process so that it's done
directly--without the inconvenience of a separate editor. I have a
super-short video showing how to edit and annotate your links in  
the Scratch

Pad. Here's the link:

  http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-enhancement

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers

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Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)

2010-01-26 Thread Kay C Lan

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.comwrote:

 Kay,

 I don't know what link you are using,...

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com
 wrote:

  tRev users,

 Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart guide
 and the Shortcuts.

  http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom


Jerry,

In your original post you had a link back to you 12Jan10 Blog. In the body
were 3 links, Quickstart and Keyboard shortcuts (Win and Mac). I didn't try
the other two, but he Quickstart one failed and still fails.

Fortunately your suggested alternative links work fine.

Thanks :-)
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Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)

2010-01-25 Thread Kay C Lan

Hi Jerry,

followed the iWork link and got:

 Enter your Apple ID and password to view this document.

Your Apple ID must be entered in lowercase.
Document doesn't exist.

Document password is incorrect, or the document is no longer available.
Continue
The document you requested doesn't exist or is no longer active.

H, and that's really interesting. I just copied and pasted the dialog
text from the iWork site to here so I'd get the text absolutely correct, yet
on the dialog I can see only the first and last line above, the bit in the
middle magically appeared when I pasted into here.

Outcome is the same though, I can't check out your new and improved pdfs.

Thanks


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:

 tRev users,

 We have just updated the documentation for tRev to accomodate the new
 Scratch Pad feature with its new window style and multi-instance
 architecture. Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart guide
 and the Shortcuts.

http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom

 These nice little PDFs are hosted on iWork.com and view really well, let
 you download them or print them. Best of all, there is no log-in of any sort
 required.

 We've also enhanced the Scratch Pad editing process so that it's done
 directly--without the inconvenience of a separate editor. I have a
 super-short video showing how to edit and annotate your links in the Scratch
 Pad. Here's the link:

http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-enhancement

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels

 The latest Rev Editor Video:
 http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers

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Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)

2010-01-25 Thread Kay C Lan

OK, that's even weirder.

Prior to hitting the Send button my reply had nothing in it about:

Enter your Apple ID and password to view this document.

Yet another line that just magically appeared.

Weird.

So, just to clarify. I followed the link in your email to your blog page.
From there I followed the Quickstart link to the iWork.com page. At that
point I got a simple webpage that stated (and this time I'll type it
myself):

Document doesn't exist.
The document your requested doesn't exist or is no longer active.

There were no buttons, no login prompts (I do have an Apple ID), nothing but
simple text and an apple logo at the bottom.

This was in Firefox. I just tried in Safari and it's basically the same,
although Safari had the waterwheel cursor (the one you get on intial startup
or shutdown) for about 5 seconds, under the Document doesn't exist line
before coming up with the last line about no longer active.

HTH

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Jerry,

 followed the iWork link and got:

  Enter your Apple ID and password to view this document.

 Your Apple ID must be entered in lowercase.
 Document doesn't exist.

 Document password is incorrect, or the document is no longer available.
 Continue
 The document you requested doesn't exist or is no longer active.

 H, and that's really interesting. I just copied and pasted the dialog
 text from the iWork site to here so I'd get the text absolutely correct, yet
 on the dialog I can see only the first and last line above, the bit in the
 middle magically appeared when I pasted into here.

 Outcome is the same though, I can't check out your new and improved pdfs.

 Thanks



 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.comwrote:

 tRev users,

 We have just updated the documentation for tRev to accomodate the new
 Scratch Pad feature with its new window style and multi-instance
 architecture. Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart guide
 and the Shortcuts.

http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom

 These nice little PDFs are hosted on iWork.com and view really well, let
 you download them or print them. Best of all, there is no log-in of any sort
 required.

 We've also enhanced the Scratch Pad editing process so that it's done
 directly--without the inconvenience of a separate editor. I have a
 super-short video showing how to edit and annotate your links in the Scratch
 Pad. Here's the link:

http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-enhancement

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels

 The latest Rev Editor Video:
 http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers

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[ANN] Create plugins for tRev!

2010-01-22 Thread Jerry Daniels

Want your script editor to do what YOU'D like it to do? You can. Just  
write a tRev plugin.


tRev now has a plugins manager that lets you create new plugins in a  
blink or transform an existing stack you have into a plugin for tRev.


Watch me add a couple plugins:

http://reveditor.com/write-your-own-plugins-for-trev

In the days to come, I'll be creating some simple, useful plugins  
(free) for you, and posting them in our plugins store. I'll also be  
putting out a simple API document so you can expand your reach into  
compiling, code formatting, colorizing, archiving to the web...all  
kind of things that you never thought you could do.


This is a big deal.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://reveditor.com/tired-of-opening-the-same-stacks-over-and-ove

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[ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)

2010-01-14 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev users,

We have just updated the documentation for tRev to accomodate the new  
Scratch Pad feature with its new window style and multi-instance  
architecture. Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart  
guide and the Shortcuts.


http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom

These nice little PDFs are hosted on iWork.com and view really well,  
let you download them or print them. Best of all, there is no log-in  
of any sort required.


We've also enhanced the Scratch Pad editing process so that it's done  
directly--without the inconvenience of a separate editor. I have a  
super-short video showing how to edit and annotate your links in the  
Scratch Pad. Here's the link:


http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-enhancement

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers

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Re: [ANN] Scratch Pad, Minimize, Multiple Instances for tRev

2010-01-13 Thread Andre.Bisseret



Le 12 janv. 10 à 21:44, Jerry Daniels a écrit :



The Scratch Pad is simply a list of links to your favorite handlers.
- It persists from session-to-session.
- It is there whether in code editor or object browser mode.
- It can be edited in-situ or through its own editor.

There's a nice slide show and a video of the Scratch Pad in action:

   http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers



Bonjour Jerry,

When I click on updates available on the bottom left of my tRev then  
on quit and get it now, reveditor.com is opened but there, I can't  
find how (where) to download the new version of tRev!
3 Download links located at the lower right of the main page on this  
site.  seems I am a bit stupid, but I don't find these links!


Besides, I am remaking an old app I am using a lot, improving it etc.  
Hence, I am merrily dragging handlers, either with or without the  
option key ;-)
Really amazing this handler's drag feature! I am saving a lot of time  
and… it is very playful! Seems that tRev is more and more like a nice  
game ;-))) Each weekly new feature seems the best to me ;-O


I am looking forward to getting the scratch pad!

Best regards from Grenoble

André

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Re: [ANN] Scratch Pad, Minimize, Multiple Instances for tRev

2010-01-13 Thread Jerry Daniels


Andre,

Glad to hear you're enjoying tRev so much. I, too, love to drag my  
handlers around...moving them to new folders, positioning them in a  
way that makes sense to me, and even moving them to new objects via  
tabs. I think the Scratch Pad will be another breakthrough like that.


Here's how to download the latest version:

If you go to http://reveditor.com and look at the right side of the  
page you will see a box with a dinosaur bursting out of it. Below it  
are short descriptive paragraphs with links in them. One of them says:


Download tRev: OS X or Vista!
Need reg code for first launch.

Both OS X and Vista are links. Click them to download.

I have considered making a big download button, but I don't want to  
give the impression that there is a trial version of the product, etc.  
And the truth is, we rarely update the tRev app itself, but, as you  
know, we do weekly component updates. tRev has lots of little  
components that can be updated in situ without restarting tRev, etc.


So I may make a large pair buttons or something. Have fun with the new  
version.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-leave-bookmarks-in-handler-lis

On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote:



Le 12 janv. 10 à 21:44, Jerry Daniels a écrit :



The Scratch Pad is simply a list of links to your favorite handlers.
- It persists from session-to-session.
- It is there whether in code editor or object browser mode.
- It can be edited in-situ or through its own editor.

There's a nice slide show and a video of the Scratch Pad in action:

  http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers



Bonjour Jerry,

When I click on updates available on the bottom left of my tRev  
then on quit and get it now, reveditor.com is opened but there, I  
can't find how (where) to download the new version of tRev!
3 Download links located at the lower right of the main page on  
this site.  seems I am a bit stupid, but I don't find these links!


Besides, I am remaking an old app I am using a lot, improving it  
etc. Hence, I am merrily dragging handlers, either with or without  
the option key ;-)
Really amazing this handler's drag feature! I am saving a lot of  
time and… it is very playful! Seems that tRev is more and more like  
a nice game ;-))) Each weekly new feature seems the best to me ;-O


I am looking forward to getting the scratch pad!

Best regards from Grenoble

André

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Re: [ANN] Scratch Pad, Minimize, Multiple Instances for tRev

2010-01-13 Thread Andre.Bisseret



Le 13 janv. 10 à 16:34, Jerry Daniels a écrit :


Andre,

Glad to hear you're enjoying tRev so much. I, too, love to drag my  
handlers around...moving them to new folders, positioning them in a  
way that makes sense to me, and even moving them to new objects via  
tabs. I think the Scratch Pad will be another breakthrough like that.


Here's how to download the latest version:

If you go to http://reveditor.com and look at the right side of the  
page you will see a box with a dinosaur bursting out of it. Below it  
are short descriptive paragraphs with links in them. One of them says:


Download tRev: OS X or Vista!
Need reg code for first launch.


Jerry,
May be I need new spectacles ;-))) I believed I had read these  
paragraphs! but I missed the good one.

Thank you for your help.

All is OK now I got it ;-)

And I am already using the Scratch Pad: seems very useful to organize  
one's work


Amitiés
André


Both OS X and Vista are links. Click them to download.

I have considered making a big download button, but I don't want to  
give the impression that there is a trial version of the product,  
etc. And the truth is, we rarely update the tRev app itself, but, as  
you know, we do weekly component updates. tRev has lots of little  
components that can be updated in situ without restarting tRev, etc.


So I may make a large pair buttons or something. Have fun with the  
new version.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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[ANN] Scratch Pad, Minimize, Multiple Instances for tRev

2010-01-12 Thread Jerry Daniels


Friends,

Amidst the cheer of the holidays, the MegaBundle and other goings-on,  
friend Bill Marriott passed away after Robin Miller lost his daughter.  
MJ and I are deeply saddened by these losses to our community and to  
the Miller family. I trust and hope their prayers will all be heard.


Bill loved passionately all aspects of the software  
lifecycle...development, design, marketing. We're dedicating this  
version of tRev to him.


We just completed our most sweeping series of changes to tRev. Much of  
this is beneath the covers. Let's start with what you can see. We now  
have a way for you to keep track of the handlers on which you're  
working. It's called the Scratch Pad.


The Scratch Pad is simply a list of links to your favorite handlers.
- It persists from session-to-session.
- It is there whether in code editor or object browser mode.
- It can be edited in-situ or through its own editor.

There's a nice slide show and a video of the Scratch Pad in action:

http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers

tRev is No Longer a Palette

I've made tRev's window into a standard window--it was a palette. Now  
you can minimize, maximize, close...all in very standard ways across  
both platforms. On Windows, when you iconify or uniconify Revolution  
IDE, tRev iconizes or uniconizes right along with it.


Basic Architectural Revamp

I've also redone the tRev application itself and its file architecture  
so that...

- You can run multiple instances of tRev/Rev pairs (up to 100).
- There is now only one components folder.
- Least-used ports are employed during our inter-app communication.

Proxy Support

I've also added support for HTTP proxy servers in the prefs and  
whenever you encounter connection problems.


That's about it.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-08 Thread Jerry Daniels


Eric,

You can ask me directly...more effective. New version coming out  
today, but if you're having a problem we need to go through the  
process of me replicating the error, etc.


je...@reveditor.com

The rest of us are doing fine, so there is something particular to the  
way you're set up, etc.


Best,

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On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Eric Sciolli wrote:


Hello Jacqueline

your solution doesn't work... perhaps it's a bug with the new  
version of tRev?


Thanks

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can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-08 Thread Eric Sciolli

Thank you Sarah; I've opened tRev with optionkey down and now it works 
perfectly... wow! very difficult to work without...
Probably a problem with download

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can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread Eric Sciolli

Hello

I've downloaded last version of tRev but when I try to open it on
macosx 10.6.2 it closes suddenly; does someone encountered this
problem?

Thanks

Eric
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Re: can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread J. Landman Gay


Eric Sciolli wrote:

Hello

I've downloaded last version of tRev but when I try to open it on
macosx 10.6.2 it closes suddenly; does someone encountered this
problem?


The tech queue is getting reports about failed OS X builds occasionally. 
I haven't figured out why but the symptoms are what you describe. 
Sometimes it works if you do this:


Click on the afflicted application to select it in the Finder

Either click the application while holding the control key, or use the 
Action menu (the icon looks like a gear) to access the option Show 
Package Contents


Open the Contents folder therein, and then find the MacOS folder
Modify the permissions on this folder to give it execute permissions 
for all users. Do this by opening the Terminal (located in 
Applications/Utilities) and typing the following command (don't press 
return afterward):


sudo chmod 755

After typing this, drag the MacOS folder to the Terminal window -- its 
path should appear. Press return, and you will be prompted for your 
administrator password, which you should enter.


The MacOS directory should now have read, write and execute priveleges 
for the owner, and read and execute privileges for the group and others.



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can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread Eric Sciolli

Hello Jacqueline

your solution doesn't work... perhaps it's a bug with the new version of tRev?

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Re: can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread J. Landman Gay


Eric Sciolli wrote:

Hello Jacqueline

your solution doesn't work... perhaps it's a bug with the new version of tRev?


The next step is to contact Jerry directly.

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Re: can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread Jerry Daniels

I know this doesn't help much, but It's running here, Eric. Also Mac  
OS X. Which Rev are you running?


Best,

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On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Eric Sciolli wrote:


Hello

I've downloaded last version of tRev but when I try to open it on
macosx 10.6.2 it closes suddenly; does someone encountered this
problem?

Thanks

Eric
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Re: can't open tRev anymore

2010-01-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt

Have you tried starting tRev with the option key held down? This  
forces a re-install of all the components.


Cheers,
Sarah

Sent from my iPhone

On 08/01/2010, at 2:51 AM, Eric Sciolli eric.scio...@sunrise.ch wrote:


Hello

I've downloaded last version of tRev but when I try to open it on
macosx 10.6.2 it closes suddenly; does someone encountered this
problem?

Thanks

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[ANN] tRev Feature Friday - make bookmarks in handler list with handler tags

2010-01-01 Thread Jerry Daniels


Dear tRev users and watchers,

With our new handler tags feature, you can turn short comments within  
your code into bookmarks within your handler list. We have a short  
video showing how to make and use handler tags:


   http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-leave-bookmarks-in-handler-lis

Handler Tags!
- now you can tag your handlers by typing handler comments like this:  
-- my tag
- place these special tag comments inside the handler, not outside  
with folder comments
- handler tags show up in the handler list indented beneath their  
parent handler

- these tags work like bookmarks within the handlers list
- handlers tags are never sorted in the handler list
- click a handler's tag in handler list and navigate quickly to a  
specific area within a large handler
- handler tags themselves cannot be dragged, but are dragged when  
parent handler is dragged

- using these tags beats folding control structures, IMHO

Fixes:
- leading spaces at top of handler are now removed when handler is  
formatted
- removing these spaces making make the handler appear properly in the  
handler list
- dropping a handler on its home line no longer leaves orange  
insertion bar
- a home line drop will no longer select the first line of the script  
when it should not
- after dragging and dropping text within editor's code field, the tab  
is now marked dirty


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday - make bookmarks in handler list with handler tags

2010-01-01 Thread Troy Rollins



On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

With our new handler tags feature, you can turn short comments  
within your code into bookmarks within your handler list. We have a  
short video showing how to make and use handler tags:


Brilliant. Jerry, this one kicks @ss.

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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday - make bookmarks in handler list with handler tags

2010-01-01 Thread Jerry Daniels


Thanks, Troy!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-leave-bookmarks-in-handler-lis

On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Troy Rollins wrote:



On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

With our new handler tags feature, you can turn short comments  
within your code into bookmarks within your handler list. We have a  
short video showing how to make and use handler tags:


Brilliant. Jerry, this one kicks @ss.

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[ANN] The tRev Adoption Program

2009-12-28 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev users,

If you already had tRev when you bought the RevSelect MegaBundle, you  
now have two licenses to tRev. What to do? You can put your extra  
license up for adoption. Someone who really wants it can then adopt it  
for $10.


Those with extra licenses can read all about the adoption program here:

http://twhez.com/ks59

Those who might otherwise not be able to afford the $50 retail price  
of tRev, but want sincerely to use it, read about adopting here:


   http://twhez.com/pJod

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!

2009-12-25 Thread Len Morgan


Merry Christmas, Jerry!

Where exactly are we supposed to see you this morning?  Is it just 
going to be a video update or is this a live event?


len

Jerry Daniels wrote:

Dear tRev fanciers,

We have just posted a fairly significant pre-holiday update for tRev. 
We're making room for the revelation of our Easter Egg feature on 
Christmas day. No one has found the egg, btw.


Below you'll see a link to a 4 minute video showing you our new 
Transparent Inspection feature. It has a much enhanced UI that does 
not require the use of the option key. This, in turn, has freed up the 
use of the option key. Details on the page to which this link points:


http://reveditor.com/pre-holiday-update

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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[ANN] tRev Feature Friday: drag a handler to a new tab


Merry Christmas!

That's right, we now have spring-loaded tabs in tRev!
- Drag a handler over a tab and that tab opens.
- Drop the handler wherever you like in the new tab's handler list.

Watch this video to be amazed:

http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab

NOTE: tRev users do not need to update in order to use this feature.  
You have all had spring-loaded tabs for a week now. None of y'all  
found it, though!


Bonus!
- Dragging to a tab also works with folders.
- You can copy (even folders)...by using option key.

Use drag-to-a-tabs to extend your use of RevTalk:
- Reuse: make a scrapbook drag-from stack of often-used handlers.
- Inheritance: drag handlers up/down the message path for wider or  
selective use.


The argument for switching to tRev has—over the last months—become  
quite compelling. What started as a modest, pre-release product has  
become a tool that extends the utility of the RevTalk language while  
simultaneously greatly improving developer productivity. We have 492  
licenses sold, 26 Feature Fridays posted, and 86 posted articles on  
our site. Over 2,900 unique individual humans have visited our site,  
and they've viewed 15,400 pages.


Why the interest in tRev? Here's why:

- Handler links within scripts and across tabs
- Search across all open tabs
- Runs outside Revolution IDE (so what if Rev crashes?)
- Decoder for modeless debugging (even dialogs!)
- Seamlessly integrated Object Browser with inline name editing
- Card snapshots within Browser
- Drag and drop handlers within or across tabs
- Drag and drop objects to relayer
- Auto-complete
- Folders for handlers
- Transparent inspection (without leaving tRev!)
- Chalkboard motif for sensitive eyes
- Great interoperability with Revolution IDE
- Auto-update components (often no restart!)
- A spare, Zen mode without tooltips or headers/footers
- Up to 20 scrollable tabs

Excess tRev licenses situation...

Those tRev users who--via the MegaBundle--find themselves with more  
than one license to tRev, should click the link above to learn about  
transferring your excess licenses to friends, colleagues, etc. We'd  
much rather have real users than just sales. Click the link above for  
details on this. It's toward the end of today's Feature Friday post.


Thank you all for your business and interest.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!


Len,

See my last post to the list. The goodies are on the site. See link  
below.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab


On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Len Morgan wrote:


Merry Christmas, Jerry!

Where exactly are we supposed to see you this morning?  Is it just  
going to be a video update or is this a live event?


len

Jerry Daniels wrote:

Dear tRev fanciers,

We have just posted a fairly significant pre-holiday update for  
tRev. We're making room for the revelation of our Easter Egg  
feature on Christmas day. No one has found the egg, btw.


Below you'll see a link to a 4 minute video showing you our new  
Transparent Inspection feature. It has a much enhanced UI that does  
not require the use of the option key. This, in turn, has freed up  
the use of the option key. Details on the page to which this link  
points:


   http://reveditor.com/pre-holiday-update

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!

2009-12-25 Thread Len Morgan


Got it.  Looks cool.

Just to let you know, it appears that tRev working on XP is now 
(unofficially) now longer possible.  Don't get me wrong, SOMETHING is 
happening, and I still get a nice picture of tRevor in the upper right 
hand corner of my screen, and I even get the completely blank screen 
every time control is passed back and forth between tRev and the Rev 
IDE, but there is no tRev editor screen visible.


Just thought you might like to know so you can post somewhere that tRev 
on (at least 1) XP system does not work.  Let's hope there are some nice 
after Christmas sales at BestBuy so I can get a new machine and get my 
tRev back.


R.I.P. XP  :-(

len 


Jerry Daniels wrote:

Len,

See my last post to the list. The goodies are on the site. See link 
below.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab


On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Len Morgan wrote:


Merry Christmas, Jerry!

Where exactly are we supposed to see you this morning?  Is it just 
going to be a video update or is this a live event?


len

Jerry Daniels wrote:

Dear tRev fanciers,

We have just posted a fairly significant pre-holiday update for 
tRev. We're making room for the revelation of our Easter Egg feature 
on Christmas day. No one has found the egg, btw.


Below you'll see a link to a 4 minute video showing you our new 
Transparent Inspection feature. It has a much enhanced UI that does 
not require the use of the option key. This, in turn, has freed up 
the use of the option key. Details on the page to which this link 
points:


   http://reveditor.com/pre-holiday-update

Best,

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Re: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!

As you know, Len, we have never officially supported XP (OS X, Vista/7  
only), although we do have tRevers out there using XP. There are so  
many variants of XP and so much going on with screens and sockets, we  
decided from day one to avoid those headaches.


Eager to have you back!


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab

On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Len Morgan wrote:


Got it.  Looks cool.

Just to let you know, it appears that tRev working on XP is now  
(unofficially) now longer possible.  Don't get me wrong, SOMETHING  
is happening, and I still get a nice picture of tRevor in the upper  
right hand corner of my screen, and I even get the completely blank  
screen every time control is passed back and forth between tRev and  
the Rev IDE, but there is no tRev editor screen visible.


Just thought you might like to know so you can post somewhere that  
tRev on (at least 1) XP system does not work.  Let's hope there are  
some nice after Christmas sales at BestBuy so I can get a new  
machine and get my tRev back.


R.I.P. XP  :-(

len
Jerry Daniels wrote:

Len,

See my last post to the list. The goodies are on the site. See link  
below.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab


On Dec 25, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Len Morgan wrote:


Merry Christmas, Jerry!

Where exactly are we supposed to see you this morning?  Is it  
just going to be a video update or is this a live event?


len

Jerry Daniels wrote:

Dear tRev fanciers,

We have just posted a fairly significant pre-holiday update for  
tRev. We're making room for the revelation of our Easter Egg  
feature on Christmas day. No one has found the egg, btw.


Below you'll see a link to a 4 minute video showing you our new  
Transparent Inspection feature. It has a much enhanced UI that  
does not require the use of the option key. This, in turn, has  
freed up the use of the option key. Details on the page to which  
this link points:


  http://reveditor.com/pre-holiday-update

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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RE: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!

2009-12-25 Thread Jim Bufalini

Jerry Daniels wrote:

 As you know, Len, we have never officially supported XP (OS X, Vista/7
 only), although we do have tRevers out there using XP. There are so
 many variants of XP and so much going on with screens and sockets, we
 decided from day one to avoid those headaches.
 
 Eager to have you back!
 
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels
 
 The latest Rev Editor Video:
 http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-a-handler-to-any-tab
 
 On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Len Morgan wrote:
 
  Got it.  Looks cool.
 
  Just to let you know, it appears that tRev working on XP is now
  (unofficially) now longer possible.  Don't get me wrong, SOMETHING
  is happening, and I still get a nice picture of tRevor in the upper
  right hand corner of my screen, and I even get the completely blank
  screen every time control is passed back and forth between tRev and
  the Rev IDE, but there is no tRev editor screen visible.
 
  Just thought you might like to know so you can post somewhere that
  tRev on (at least 1) XP system does not work.  Let's hope there are
  some nice after Christmas sales at BestBuy so I can get a new
  machine and get my tRev back.
 
  R.I.P. XP  :-(
 
  len

For what it's worth, I have found that whenever something works on Vista/7
and not on XP (it's usually the other way around), greater than 9 times out
of 10 it has nothing to do with versions of XP (Home Premium or
Professional, etc.) or 64 bit or 32 bit, etc. It has to do with spaces in a
file path.

If you shell, or open process or pass a parameter to a process, it will work
in Vista and not work in XP because of the spaces in the file path. Even if
you are just writing to a user's Documents directory, in Vista this is
*C:\Users\username\Documents\* (notice no spaces unless a user put a space
in their user name). But, in XP it's C:\Documents and Settings\userName\My
Documents\.

See all those spaces in the file path in XP? They wreak havoc when passed as
params, etc. This is the main reason MS renamed directories like *Documents
and Settings* to *ProgramData* and *My Documents* to *Documents* and *All
Users* to *Default*. 

The answer is just enclose any file paths in quotes. So do *quote 
C:\  quote*, and almost always your non-XP-working-Rev-app magically
starts working on XP. Without this, it goes off into lala land. This just
happened to me yesterday. I had something working perfectly in Vista but
would not work on any XP machine. Luckily I remembered about spaces and
quoting and got it working in short order.

The other tip is even in Vista/7 avoid using directories that involve the
user name as users will do things like firstNamespacelastName and this
will cause the identical problem on Vista/7. It's why I recommend against
using a user's Documents directory.

Aloha from Hawaii,

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Re: [ANN] tRev Pre-holiday Update!