[libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Thurgood

On 08/26/2012 08:39 PM, rcdawson wrote:

Hi,


In order to change the default printer language I attempted to run spadmin.
Logged in as root, I located the directory containing spadmin and issued the
command +./spadmin.  The result was to return four lines, each reading No
protocol specified.

I am running Linux Mint 13 with KDE.

Where can I learn more about how to use this command?



I have a version of Linux Mint 12 with Mate (except that I'm running 
enlightenment mostly), with the following versions of LibreOffice :



/home/alex/LODEV/core/padmin/Executable_spadmin.bin.mk
/home/alex/LODEV/core/padmin/source/spadmin.sh

The above two are files from my LO development git tree.


/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/spadmin
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/spadmin.bin
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/spadmin
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/spadmin.bin
/opt/lodev3.6/program/spadmin
/opt/lodev3.6/program/spadmin.bin

These 6 entries all correspond to daily, or development, builds of 
LibreOffice downloaded from the LibreOffice web site.



/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/spadmin.bin
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/spadmin
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/spadmin.bin

The above 3 entries represent the version of LO provided with Mint or 
via the Ubuntu PPA repositories.


You should preferably use the full path to spadmin in order to get it to 
run. I don't need to be root though, for me, it runs just fine from a 
Terminal as a normal user and I don't need to put the dot in front of 
the script name.





Alex




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:


  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
reconnect to the Internet.

--Dan



And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the Info 
link besides the Torrent link on libreoffice.org/download.




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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Ok, 2 scenarios.  
1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file 
doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper double-click so 
double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of changes, and go off 
to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not sure if you saved the 
document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it it still seems to be open 
so you save again and quit.  Later you open the document to find NONE of your 
changes have been saved.  Why?  

2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the file 
open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info from or 
as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call and switch 
workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with the call.  A 
few distractions later and you get back to the machine and save and close the 
open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you find NONE of your edits 
were saved.  Why?


I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily occur 
in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible on an 
infallible machine.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
To: MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17

       Huh ???

       Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
                        that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
down, I check  discover this inane file has appeared.

       (2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
computer's HD before its completed?;
              once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
it on the computer's HD.

       (3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
              and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse  buggy' era  ;-)

       A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
            which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
along with other groups back-then.
       [and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing  ;-)]



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobiwrote:


 Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
 Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
 De: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 A: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 CC: Steve steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com, users@global.libreoffice.org


        Thanks for your response -

        unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
            sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
 --**--

 I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
 For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
 A program crash.
 Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I vaguely remember Norton updated their virus-definitions on Thursdays so i 
would schedule a look-for-updates for Fridays.  Of course MS do their updates 
on Tuesdays (=Patch Tuesday) so Norton/Symantec might have changed in the 
last decade or so.  

Of course if either find a particularly nasty problem then they do sometimes 
push patches or whatever out on a different day but it's fairly rare.  Of 
course an ISP might delay updates for a day or 2 so your machine might 
regularly get them a day or few later but i think by being regular MS and 
others have given ISPs a chance of knowing when they might get spikes so that 
those can be planned for easily.  

I still don't get why Windows doesn't have a package-manager that just updates 
everything all in one go instead of each different program being forced to 
set-up it's own separate method of keeping things up to date.  Also i never 
had/have confidence in any machine having fully updated drivers and codecs and 
everything.  Windows appears to be carefully built to be insecure.

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:14

webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
 Jeff Hahn wrote:
 When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
 keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
 that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
 
 
      To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
      Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
 upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
 Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update,
 turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect
 to the Internet.
 
 --Dan
 
 
 This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
 files were viruses or other nasties.
 
 I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
 Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
 and selling pro's to using it.
 
 As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would
 tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there
 is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be
 picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have my
 Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my system
 for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.
 If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have
 been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their data
 systems, mostly, after a new nasty has been detected.  If your system has
 that nasty on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data system,
 then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and security system[s]
 on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer
 security off.
 
 I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
 they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
 system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost
 a lot.

     Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been. I listed 5 steps that 
have been posted on lists like these when installing OOo. Programs like Norton 
will give false positives that prevent installation of a program. So, the AV 
program needs to be off when the installation is being done. However, the AV 
program should NOT be turned off until AFTER the computer is physically 
disconnected from the Internet. The installation should be done immediately 
after turning off the AV. The AV should be turned on again right after 
finishing the installation. At this point, verification that the AV is actually 
working is the next step. If it is not, steps have to be taken to get the AV 
working properly before doing anything else. Once this is done, reconnect to 
the Internet. My point was that the computer should not be connected to the 
Internet until AFTER the person knows that the AV is already working.
     Yes, anyone using an AV should weekly update it, sooner if there is a 
notice of an update because of a patch that is needed.

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally amazing 
and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.  

Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised as 
being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with might 
have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research into it.  

One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known security 
so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless against any decent 
threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even the big and famous 
antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's non-trivial then there 
is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall your OS.  Still now that 
AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other options.  

Regards from
Tom :)  



--- On Thu, 30/8/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27

On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
 Jeff Hahn wrote:
 When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
 keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
 that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
 
 
      To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
      Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the 
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
 Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update, 
 turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect to 
 the Internet.
 
 --Dan
 

This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install files 
were viruses or other nasties.

I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of Comodo 
product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair and selling 
pro's to using it.

As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would 
tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there is 
a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be picked up 
and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have my Ubuntu system 
picking up new things from files that I have had on my system for months and 
suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.  If I did not have 
the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have been picked up.  The 
real thing is that the AV systems update their data systems, mostly, after a 
new nasty has been detected.  If your system has that nasty on it before 
that nasty has been added to your AV data system, then you will need to have 
the other parts of the AV and security system[s] on to detect the traces of it 
trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer security off.

I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where they 
did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one system that 
the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost a lot.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, yes, most of the guide is about making sure none of the quick-starter or 
any other back-ground process is running.  The only problem with multiple 
versions is nothing to do with the actual install itself, it's about running 
them at the same time as that 'cant' be done yet afaik.  

It's interesting to hear that possibly pre-3.5.x can be run at the same time as 
a 3.5.x or later.  I wonder if a AOO can be run at the same time as a 3.5.x or 
later too?  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 1:06

Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 This guide might help if you want to run a few versions of LO and/or AOO 
 alongside each other
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
 Regards from
 Tom :)

      This may also be a Windows problem. My tower uses Ubuntu 11.10 (64 
bit). Right now I have LO 3.4.6, 3.5.6, 3.6.1, AND AOO 3.4.1. Side note: If 
I want to run say 3.6.1 and 3.6.2 installing in parallel might be a good idea.
      I have found that I can not run 3.5.6 and 3.6.1 at the same time. Yet 
I can run either one of them with LO 3.4.6 or AOO 3.4.1. So I can have 
three different soffice instances running at the same time as long as two 
of them are 3.5 and 3.6. This is true even when I use these two:
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice

--Dan


 --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 19:05

 Am 29.08.2012 18:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
 trying to access my address book

 Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
 ___

 The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
 (com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):

 Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
 ___


 Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
 Java 1.7_06 (and 05)

 All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the upgrade,
 carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
 installation of the real product, downloaded from the LibreOffice web
 site via dpkg -iR

 Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!



 Hi,
 Since many years I use to update my office suites without removal. All major 
 versions (OOo 1 and 2, LibO and OOo 3) are separate applications with 
 separated profile folders anyway.
 Any problems (if any) are related to the user profile which can be reset by 
 renaming a folder. Within the profile issues, the installed extensions are 
 the major culprit (but not the ones I use to have installed). So I extract 
 the downloaded archive, change to the extracted directory/DEBS and run
 sudo dpkg -i *.deb
 If I want that version to be the default program with menu and everything I 
 change to the desktop-integration subdirectory and install that package too.
 If I do not want that version to be the default program I add a couple of my 
 own desktop links to the respective executables. There were times when I had 
 OOo 1.1.5, 2.4.3, 3.4beta, LibO 3.3 and 3.5.x installed in parallel without 
 any problem.

 Problems that come up quite frequently on this list are not the normal case. 
 It is designed to be update out of the box, particularly on Linux.
 Just my 2 Cents,
 A.S.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ahh, yes, most of the guide is about making sure none of the quick-starter
or any other back-ground process is running.  The only problem with
multiple versions is nothing to do with the actual install itself, it's
about running them at the same time as that 'cant' be done yet afaik.

It's interesting to hear that possibly pre-3.5.x can be run at the same
time as a 3.5.x or later.  I wonder if a AOO can be run at the same time as
a 3.5.x or later too?

Regards from
Tom :)


 I do all the time.

--Dan



--- On *Thu, 30/8/12, Dan /elderdanle...@gmail.com/* wrote:


From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 1:06

Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  This guide might help if you want to run a few versions of LO and/or
AOO alongside each other
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
  Regards from
  Tom :)

   This may also be a Windows problem. My tower uses Ubuntu 11.10 (64
bit). Right now I have LO 3.4.6, 3.5.6, 3.6.1, AND AOO 3.4.1. Side
note: If
I want to run say 3.6.1 and 3.6.2 installing in parallel might be a
good idea.
   I have found that I can not run 3.5.6 and 3.6.1 at the same
time. Yet
I can run either one of them with LO 3.4.6 or AOO 3.4.1. So I can have
three different soffice instances running at the same time as long as
two
of them are 3.5 and 3.6. This is true even when I use these two:
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice

--Dan

 
  --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
/mc/compose?to=ville...@t-online.de wrote:
 
  From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
/mc/compose?to=ville...@t-online.de
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
/mc/compose?to=users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 19:05
 
  Am 29.08.2012 18:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
  On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
  I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
  trying to access my address book
 
  Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
 
___
 
  The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
  (com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):
 
  Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
 
___
 
 
  Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
  Java 1.7_06 (and 05)
 
  All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the
upgrade,
  carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
  installation of the real product, downloaded from the
LibreOffice web
  site via dpkg -iR
 
  Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!
 
 
 
  Hi,
  Since many years I use to update my office suites without removal.
All major versions (OOo 1 and 2, LibO and OOo 3) are separate
applications with separated profile folders anyway.
  Any problems (if any) are related to the user profile which can be
reset by renaming a folder. Within the profile issues, the installed
extensions are the major culprit (but not the ones I use to have
installed). So I extract the downloaded archive, change to the
extracted directory/DEBS and run
  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
  If I want that version to be the default program with menu and
everything I change to the desktop-integration subdirectory and install
that package too.
  If I do not want that version to be the default program I add a
couple of my own desktop links to the respective executables. There
were times when I had OOo 1.1.5, 2.4.3, 3.4beta, LibO 3.3 and 3.5.x
installed in parallel without any problem.
 
  Problems that come up quite frequently on this list are not the
normal case. It is designed to be update out of the box, particularly
on Linux.
  Just my 2 Cents,
  A.S.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extension to publish Blog posts direct from Writer?

2012-08-30 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 14/08/12 14:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
Is there one, or is there a function within Writer to do that? (LO 
3.5.6.2)


Found it eventually.
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/swp


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
 The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD

I noticed, however it is outdated :( That extension seemed abandoned
until I got in touch with its main dev - I am trying to get him to list
it on the official LibO site, update it, etc. I didn't distribute many
copies of the NA-DVD as it was in English and contained too many files
that were not directly relevant. I am thinking how I can contribute to
improve this.

 2] Good Job - going to Haiti to help out over there.

Thanks! It's really easy to work there as free software in general is
highly compatible with values they already have: sharing, helping,
improving, re-sharing, etc.

[..]

Cheers,

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http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread timecode
Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:


  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
file?

  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
reconnect to the Internet.

--Dan



And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you 
downloaded and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the 
Info link besides the Torrent link on libreoffice.org/download.


Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version 
of LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only 
place for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be 
some problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the 
download pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are 
told that the only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the 
official download web site, then there might not be any trust in the 
localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what you are saying.


Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files 
on the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I use the free versions of Comodo.  They have free [and paid] anti-virus 
and full security packages that include firewalls.  I use to use the 
free AVG, but then I had to add a separate firewall package, like 
Zonealarm.  Now I use only Comodo's free package that has both types of 
security.  Of course, that is to say that I use Comodo only on my 
Windows systems.


When I only used Windows systems, I maintained a list of free options 
for packages.  This link starts the section on security software.  I do 
not update it [much] anymore, but the list does have some good options. 
http://www.lungstrom.com/list/#thisvirus


.
On 08/30/2012 06:13 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally amazing 
and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.

Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised as 
being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with might 
have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research into it.

One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known security 
so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless against any decent 
threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even the big and famous 
antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's non-trivial then there 
is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall your OS.  Still now that 
AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other options.

Regards from
Tom :)



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From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27

On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:

Jeff Hahn wrote:

When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff


   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the 
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update, turn 
on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect to the 
Internet.

--Dan


This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install files 
were viruses or other nasties.

I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of Comodo 
product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair and selling 
pro's to using it.

As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would tell people.  An 
anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there is a trojan or other nasty kicking in 
and doing a number.  They can be picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  
I have my Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my system for months 
and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.  If I did not have the AV system on 
24/7, then those issues might not have been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems 
update their data systems, mostly, after a new nasty has been detected.  If your system 
has that nasty on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data system, then you 
will need to have the other parts of the AV and security system[s] on to detect the traces of it 
trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer security off.

I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where they 
did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one system that 
the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost a lot.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 08/30/2012 07:44 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

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On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD

I noticed, however it is outdated :( That extension seemed abandoned
until I got in touch with its main dev - I am trying to get him to list
it on the official LibO site, update it, etc. I didn't distribute many
copies of the NA-DVD as it was in English and contained too many files
that were not directly relevant. I am thinking how I can contribute to
improve this.


How about having students in Haiti work on it?  I took the basic info in 
the English dictionary and made it my own with taking the original word 
list and replacing it with one that had many, many more words in it.  
The local students could do the same. They could build a current 
spelling word list and build their own dictionary extension.


As for the NA-DVD distro, I have no problems with people taking it and 
using it as the starting point for creating their own version.  Take out 
the parts not needed and adding those that are.  I have been told that 
other groups have done that over the past year or so since the NA-DVD 
has been online.


.

2] Good Job - going to Haiti to help out over there.

Thanks! It's really easy to work there as free software in general is
highly compatible with values they already have: sharing, helping,
improving, re-sharing, etc.

[..]

Cheers,

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http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decent QA and 
the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines around the 
world.  

However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines might 
want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you might end 
up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial and even 
beneficial.  

However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with the 
main problem.  

The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or copying 
and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still appearing to 
work.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 
On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
 
       To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
       Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
 upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
 Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
 update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
 reconnect to the Internet.
 
 --Dan
 
 
 And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded and 
 verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
 You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the Info 
 link besides the Torrent link on libreoffice.org/download.
 
Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version of LO 
hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main download 
site should be the default, but having local/regional projects where you can 
get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only place for users to 
get LO is from the download site, then there might be some problems with 
distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the download pages.  If you hand 
out these media to people, but they are told that the only place that it is 
safe to get the packages is from the official download web site, then there 
might not be any trust in the localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what 
you are saying.

Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on the 
NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.



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[libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Gilles
Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You can answer either way.  By email you need to use Reply to all instead of 
Reply because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using Reply 
sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list so you 
suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's better to 
send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this way.  

I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)  

I think the arrow is probably in the Thumbnails folder.  If you can delete it 
from there it will vanish.
Regards form
Tom :)  








 From: timecode i...@sokianos.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics
 
Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 29/08/12 23:39, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be 32 bit 
too.
Regards from
Tom :)


I don't know where you got that idea from, unless you haven't noticed 
that I'm talking about Linux, not the MS product. ;-)


I've been using fully 64 bit systems for several years, firstly with OOo 
and then LO and, as indicated further down this thread, the combination 
is functioning perfectly well on another system with the same software 
installation(s). I'm guessing that the mal-functioning is related to the 
profile somewhere. Experiments continue.


Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes.  

Errr, i am not sure about the variety of underlining and such but there are 10 
levels of headings that, by default, are linked together so that if you change 
the font on one of them that change flows through to the rest so that you can 
easily keep things consistent.  I'm not sure how smart it is, for example if 
changing h2 changes h1 or just the ones lower than it (h3, h4 and so on).  It's 
easy enough to change the default.  

There is a chapter about styles and templates in official documentation.  
Chapter 3 of the Getting Started Guide.  There are pre-release and older 
versions of official documentation on this wiki-page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
But it is fairly widely distributed already.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Gilles codecompl...@free.fr
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 14:15
Subject: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right 
margin?
 
Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Gilles
Thanks for the info. I don't have the time/courage to read the whole document
just for this, though.

Out of band, someone came up with this trick:
[quote]
Set a tab on the right margin and then insert a tab after your text, then
underline the white space after the text.
[/quote]

It works, but it's a bit cumbersome so I ended up copy/pasting the first
title and replaced all the other H2 items.

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Gilles wrote:

Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.


 The User Guides for LO have what you want already. The answer is to 
use styles.
 Open the Styles and Formatting window (use F11 to do this). When it 
opens, right click Heading 2 and select Modify. Click the Border tab. You 
want to create a bottom border by clicking below the gray square in the 
User defined window. Select the thickness (width) for the line and the 
color you want to use. If you have a preference as to the type of line 
used, select that also. Click OK. This should do it.


--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 15:15, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:

 I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
 Writer do this too?

Don't use underline (in Font effects tab) but use borders (in, well, 
Borders tab) instead. Just add bottom border, possibly set width, style and 
spacing and you are done.

Please note that border will underline whole header box, not line of text 
(check with long headings of two or more lines of text). Perhaps this is 
something you want anyway, but you should be aware of difference.
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[libreoffice-users] Record macro

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz
Good evening
I recently upgraded to 3.6.
Formerly I used to have macros to highlight text and then remove the
highlight again (important during editing)
Today I noticed, that those macros were working only sometimes - when
they felt like doing so.
Fidling aroung in trying to figure out what is going on, I found:
* the second macro had been disabled.
* I get the Java Runtime Environment error that has been mentioned
recently on the list
* Installing a new JRE (1.7) does not work
* Going back to JRE 1.6 got rig (?) of the error, but I apparently need
to create new macros.
(this too is a really unnecessary pain in the neck)

BUT 
there is no Record macro button any more!
It used to be unter Tools - Macros
Yet, now there are only
* Run macro
* Organize macros
- greyed out (digital signature)
* Organize dialogs

The documentation says:

*When in Writer:* #Open the document for which you want to record a macro.

 1. Choose *Tools - Macros - Record Macro*.
You see the small *Recording* dialog with just one button called
*Stop Recording*.

So, where IS the Record macro button now???



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jeff Hahn
I did the original post.  I am running Windows.  With this download I am 
following the same procedure I used when I installed 3.6.0.  I click on the 
Main installer at the LO website, select run from the Windows popup and 
wait.  The program is downloaded after which time Norton does a security 
scan.  WIth 3.6.0 the security scan was done and the program then completed 
the installation without incident.  With 3.6.1 at the completion of the 
security scan Norton announces that the download is a possible virus and then 
deletes it. Jeff
 
 Hi :)
 It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
 version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
 changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
 here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decenlkick on 
 t QA and the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines 
 around the world.  
 
 However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
 logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines might 
 want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you might end 
 up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial and even 
 beneficial.  
 
 However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
 non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with the 
 main problem.  
 
 The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or 
 copying and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still 
 appearing to work.  
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
  
 On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
  Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
  
To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
  file?
Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
  upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
  Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
  update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
  reconnect to the Internet.
  
  --Dan
  
  
  And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
  and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
  You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the Info 
  link besides the Torrent link on libreoffice.org/download.
  
 Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version of 
 LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
 download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
 where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only place 
 for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be some 
 problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the download 
 pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are told that the 
 only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the official download 
 web site, then there might not be any trust in the localized projects.  
 Hopefully this is not what you are saying.
 
 Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on 
 the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version
of LO hiding something that should not be there?


Do you trust any site like this one?

http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jeff Hahn
Most likely Norton has messed up.  I am trying to get through on their Online 
help system, without much success. Jeff
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 From: ville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:09:49 +0200
 
 Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version
  of LO hiding something that should not be there?
 
 Do you trust any site like this one?
  http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/30/2012 10:03 AM, Jeff Hahn wrote:
 I did the original post.  I am running Windows.  With this download I am 
 following the same procedure I used when I installed 3.6.0.  I click on the 
 Main installer at the LO website, select run from the Windows popup and 
 wait.  The program is downloaded after which time Norton does a security 
 scan.  WIth 3.6.0 the security scan was done and the program then completed 
 the installation without incident.  With 3.6.1 at the completion of the 
 security scan Norton announces that the download is a possible virus and then 
 deletes it. Jeff
Hi,

IMHO, Norton AV appears to be giving a false positive. Does it identify
the alleged malware? I would check Norton's Quarantine and see if you
can restore from there. You might contact Norton to see if they have a
work around.
 Hi :)
 It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
 version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
 changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
 here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decenlkick on 
 t QA and the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines 
 around the world.  

 However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
 logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines 
 might want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you 
 might end up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial 
 and even beneficial.  

 However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
 non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with 
 the main problem.  

 The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or 
 copying and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still 
 appearing to work.  

 Regards from
 Tom :)  





 
 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

 On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
 file?
   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
 upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
 Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
 update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
 reconnect to the Internet.

 --Dan

 And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
 and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
 You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the Info 
 link besides the Torrent link on libreoffice.org/download.

 Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version of 
 LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
 download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
 where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only 
 place for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be 
 some problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the 
 download pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are told 
 that the only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the 
 official download web site, then there might not be any trust in the 
 localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what you are saying.

 Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on 
 the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.



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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   HUH ???

   Whenever the document is saved, it's saved ... when the file(s) are
re-opened the saved document appears;
  if it's been saved with a different name - as adding 2 ... - then
there are more than 1 copy of this document.




On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 Ok, 2 scenarios.
 1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file
 doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper
 double-click so double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of
 changes, and go off to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not
 sure if you saved the document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it
 it still seems to be open so you save again and quit.  Later you open the
 document to find NONE of your changes have been saved.  Why?

 2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the
 file open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info
 from or as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call
 and switch workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with
 the call.  A few distractions later and you get back to the machine and
 save and close the open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you
 find NONE of your edits were saved.  Why?


 I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily
 occur in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible
 on an infallible machine.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
 To: MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17

Huh ???

Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
 that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
 down, I check  discover this inane file has appeared.

(2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
 computer's HD before its completed?;
   once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
 it on the computer's HD.

(3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
 not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
   and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
 pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse  buggy' era  ;-)

A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
 which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
 still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
 the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
 along with other groups back-then.
[and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing
 ;-)]



 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi
 wrote:


  Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
  Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
  De: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  A: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  CC: Steve steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com, users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 
 Thanks for your response -
 
 unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
 sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
  --**--
 
  I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
  For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
  A program crash.
  Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Record macro

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 16:03, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp wrote:

 So, where IS the Record macro button now???

At Tools → Macros → Record macro.

But first you must go Tools → Options → LibreOffice → General and check Enable 
macro recording.
Restarting LO is not needed.

This option has been disabled by default because macro recorder has never 
worked reliably. Users are encouraged to write macros themselves.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, as other people are saying (with varying degrees of paranoia) antiviruses 
do have a lot of false positives.  It's like having a guard dog and then 
grumbling because it barks.  

A better course is to congratulate it on succesfully blocking something from 
installing (ie doing it's job) and then switch it off, do the install and then 
switch it on again.   

As 1 person said it's wise to unplug the network cable or switch off your 
router (if at home) so that you have no internet connection while the antivirus 
is off but at that level of paranoia i would recommend just not using Windows 
in the first place.  With Windows you just have to accept that your system is 
not secure [shrugs] and that to some extent you are always going to have to 
just trust to luck.  It's wise to minimise that where it's reasonably 
possible.  Unplugging a network cable might not be easy but if it is then it's 
worth doing.  

People say that Windows is easier but then forget that they have to struggle 
through this sort of thing.  Other systems have different struggles.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com
To: ville...@t-online.de ville...@t-online.de; 
users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 15:12
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 
Most likely Norton has messed up.  I am trying to get through on their Online 
help system, without much success. Jeff
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 From: ville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:09:49 +0200
 
 Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a modified version
  of LO hiding something that should not be there?
 
 Do you trust any site like this one?
  http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html
 
 
 
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The point was that if you open the same document twice and make tons of changes 
to 1 version but then for some reason end up saving the 2nd copy and not the 
one you edited then you lose all your changes.  

Even if there is only 1 person using the system the chances are still quite 
high of such a thing occuring and so OOo developed a way around it.  It rarely 
goes wrong and if/when it does it's easy to fix and doesn't result in a loss of 
data.  Not having a ~lock file would often result in a loss of data if a 
problem occurred.  
Regards from
Tom :)







 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
To: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 15:29
Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
 
       HUH ???

       Whenever the document is saved, it's saved ... when the file(s) are
re-opened the saved document appears;
          if it's been saved with a different name - as adding 2 ... - then
there are more than 1 copy of this document.




On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 Ok, 2 scenarios.
 1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file
 doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper
 double-click so double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of
 changes, and go off to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not
 sure if you saved the document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it
 it still seems to be open so you save again and quit.  Later you open the
 document to find NONE of your changes have been saved.  Why?

 2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the
 file open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info
 from or as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call
 and switch workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with
 the call.  A few distractions later and you get back to the machine and
 save and close the open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you
 find NONE of your edits were saved.  Why?


 I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily
 occur in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible
 on an infallible machine.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
 To: MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17

        Huh ???

        Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
                         that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
 down, I check  discover this inane file has appeared.

        (2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
 computer's HD before its completed?;
               once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
 it on the computer's HD.

        (3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
 not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
               and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
 pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse  buggy' era  ;-)

        A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
             which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
 still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
 the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
 along with other groups back-then.
        [and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing
 ;-)]



 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobi
 wrote:


  Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
  Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
  De: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  A: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  CC: Steve steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com, users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 
         Thanks for your response -
 
         unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
             sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
  --**--
 
  I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
  For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
  A program crash.
  Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Gilles wrote:

Thanks for the info. I don't have the time/courage to read the whole document
just for this, though.

Out of band, someone came up with this trick:
[quote]
Set a tab on the right margin and then insert a tab after your text, then
underline the white space after the text.
[/quote]

It works, but it's a bit cumbersome so I ended up copy/pasting the first
title and replaced all the other H2 items.

Thank you.


 Time: let me see ... Chapter 3 is all of 24 pages long. One the top 
of the second page (Copyright page) is the style you seem to be wanting. 
Using the F11 key to open the Styles and Formatting window and change 
Automatic to All Styles at the bottom of it. Then click the Copyright 
heading. OOoHeading 1 will be highlighter. Right click it and select Modify 
from the context menu. You now have in front of you a dialog containing all 
the properties contained in the OOoHeading 1. You have 12 tabs with these 
properties.
 Now how much time would this take? Not nearly as much time as 
reading the whole document for this.
 I do have one advantage over you. I write some of the documents for 
LO. So, I have taken the time to learn how to do things using styles. I 
have a copy of the Complete Writer Guide which I use as a reference once in 
a while. I also look at the properties of a style once in a while to see 
what they are. I then put this knowledge to work for me. I now have my own 
personal outline numbering styles based upon the works of others.
 If you are going to be using Writer extensively, you might want to 
get the Writer Guide as well. It is a good reference book. Control+H will 
help you search for specifics so you don't have to read the whole 
document for any particular question.


--Dan

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document not accessible to Orca screen reader.

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is anyone here able to get this list onto the devs list?  or a discussion list 
or somewhere the BoD might respond?

Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Dattatray Bhat bha...@gmail.com
To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: sagun baijal sagunbai...@gmail.com; Leena Chourey leenag...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 10:27
Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document 
not accessible to Orca screen reader.
 
The Navigator feature in LibreOffice is not quite convenient for visually
disabled users who use the Orca screen reader. Suppose I want to navigate
to previous or next heading. This is what I do. If there is an easier way,
please let me know.

   1. Set up Navigator to traverse headings (5-6 keybindings)
      Press F5 to start Navigator
      Press F6 4 times (or Shift+F6 once) to activate Navigator window
      Press Tab to go the list box section
      Press Right to expand Headings node
      Press Down to go to first heading label
   2. From current heading, go to next or previous heading (4-5
   key-bindings)
      Press F6 4 times (or Shift+F6 once) to activate Navigator window.
      Press Tab to go to list box section
      Press Up or Down to to go to previous or next heading label
      Press Enter to go to previous or next heading

If structural navigation feature of Orca worked in LibreOffice, I would be
able to navigate to previous or next heading with a single key-binding. But
it doesn't work;  due to some LibreOffice bugs. I submitted detailed bug
reports (listed below) including screen shots to LibreOffice bug tracker in
March 2011; but there is no progress so far.

35105     A heading in writer document doesn't expose ROLE_HEADING to
AT-SPI.
35107     A hyperlink in writer document doesn't expose correct role and
URL to AT-SPI.
35110     A list box in writer document doesn't expose correct role to
AT-SPI.
35111     A combo box in writer document doesn't expose ROLE_COMBO_BOX to
AT-SPI.
35112    A section in writer document is not visible to AT-SPI.
35129     A spin button in spreadsheet doesn't expose ROLE_SPIN_BUTTON to
AT-SPI.
35652     AT-SPI accessible tree omits objects which are not visible on the
screen.
35654     A writer document doesn't implement the Collection interface of
AT-SPI.

Can somebody look into these bug reports please?

Regards.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Jannis Sokianos
Howdy,

I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
are in the content.xml?



Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 You can answer either way.  By email you need to use Reply to all instead 
 of Reply because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using 
 Reply sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list so 
 you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's 
 better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this 
 way.  

 I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
 Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)  

 I think the arrow is probably in the Thumbnails folder.  If you can delete 
 it from there it will vanish.
 Regards form
 Tom :)  







 
 From: timecode i...@sokianos.de
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

 Hey Tom!

 Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
 http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
 zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
 a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

 This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
 trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

 Thanks in advance!
 timecode

 PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Do we know if this problem has been solved yet?  Has the OP been in contact?
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
To: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 18:03
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run
 
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Tom wrote:

 Hi :)
 Sorry for the late response!
 
 An 'obvious' way to get a little bit more information about any unix-based
 command is to add the tag -h or --help after the command.  In this case
 it would be something like:
 
 spadmin -h
 
 or
 
 spadmin --help
 
 It's just a quick-help, cheat sheet.  There is a lot more info in the
 manual which you can access using the man command (seems a little sexist
 but it's really just short for manual).  So, try
 
 man spadmin

my understanding is that the OP (you have deleted the original post) wasn't 
getting it to run at all.

he had a funny sign in front of the command which I thought might be an 
artifact produced by his email. he should be sure to invoke the command as

./spadmin

assuming he is in the same directory or give the whole path (without the 
leading dot).

 Hmmm, i don't have spadmin installed on my machine so i got nothing from
 either of those commands.

I have it but it seems to belong to openoffice in my case (on this machine) 
and seems to require 'sudo' to invoke it as it's owned by root.

 Regards from
 Tom :)

regards to you too!

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, so that is not the issue then.  Sorry!

Does the version of java have to match the app or the OS?  I would have thought 
it has to match the app?  Sorry, i'm still curious even tho it's not the issue 
in this thread.
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 0:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
 
      As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version. Linux 
has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the folder 
containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use is also 64 
bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6) with all the 
patches.

LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US

--Dan


Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be 32 
 bit too.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


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 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05

 On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
 then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
 told which version of java to use so it might work Tools - Options -
 Java Regards from Tom :)

 That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

 Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Argument to let OO window stay on top

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Did anyone work out the problem with this Mac?
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Mourad Hedfi mou...@bilog.fr
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 24 August 2012, 10:31
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Argument to let OO window stay on top
 
Hello everyone,
I'm using OO on Mac OS and I'm starting it from an other application using
a command line from the terminal with arguments. I'm searching  a way to
let or force LO window to stay on the top of all opened application.
I've not found any argument to do this. Does anyone have an idea how to do
this with argument from LO or uising an another method.

Many thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] PDF UA

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Does anyone know if Pdf UA is incorporated into LO or if there are plans to do 
so?

I think we have more fine-grained ways such as tagged and 1A and such but 
do they add-up to UA?
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Jaap van de Putte i...@2useit.nl
To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012, 17:05
Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] PDF UA
 
Hi,

PDF/UA has been approved as standard.  It stands for Universally Accessible 
PDF.
Are there any steps made to incorporate this format in LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice? It would certainly matters for governments in Europe for the 
European Union has stated that all countries should confirm to WCAG 2, the 
international accessibility guidelines.

Kind regards, Jaap

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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 How about having students in Haiti work on it? [...]

That's the goal of LibrePlanet Haïti: get local help/exposure for such
projects. Internet access is not widespread, though, so collaboration
via mailing list/online is not as effective and quick as elsewhere. The
same work that can be done for LibO will be happening for other
projects, so I hope to get more people connected via LP Haiti and take
it from there. Above all, I hope someone local leads that :)


 As for the NA-DVD distro, I have no problems with people taking it and
using it as the starting point for creating their own version. Take out
the parts not needed and adding those that are. I have been told that
other groups have done that over the past year or so since the NA-DVD
has been online.

Of course, but given the limited resources and time, translating all of
it to Creole is impractical, if even possible.
Even updating the current systems and LibreOffice or having up-to-date
installers will prove challenging.

[...]

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Jannis Sokianos wrote:

Howdy,

I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
are in the content.xml?



 Have you checked to see if the arrow is a linked graphic? (Edit - 
Links) This is a possibility. But there are going to be additional problems 
even if the arrow is a linked graphic. Even after removing all pictures and 
thumbnails, the document will have a read error message.
 What has to be done is to open context.xml. Then remove all 
references to where the arrow graphic is located in the text document.


--Dan


Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:

Hi :)
You can answer either way.  By email you need to use Reply to all instead of Reply 
because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using Reply sends the message privately, 
as a pm, instead of to the whole list so you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. 
It's better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this way.

I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)

I think the arrow is probably in the Thumbnails folder.  If you can delete it 
from there it will vanish.
Regards form
Tom :)









From: timecode i...@sokianos.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ouch!  Xml is not pretty unless you can open it in a text-editor that allows 
you to chooose a colour-coding option.  SCiTe is good and i've heard good 
reports of Notepad++ but normal straight Notepad would be useless.  In Gedit i 
found something in the status-bar that said Plain text and clicking on it 
gave a long list of different programming languages and even included 
html/css.  Choosing changed the colour of all the coding brackets to different 
colours that helps me pick-out the bits i need to focus on.   
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 18:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics
 
Jannis Sokianos wrote:
 Howdy,

 I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
 are in the content.xml?


      Have you checked to see if the arrow is a linked graphic? (Edit - 
Links) This is a possibility. But there are going to be additional problems 
even if the arrow is a linked graphic. Even after removing all pictures and 
thumbnails, the document will have a read error message.
      What has to be done is to open context.xml. Then remove all 
references to where the arrow graphic is located in the text document.

--Dan

 Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 You can answer either way.  By email you need to use Reply to all instead 
 of Reply because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using 
 Reply sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list 
 so you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's 
 better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this 
 way.

 I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
 Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)

 I think the arrow is probably in the Thumbnails folder.  If you can 
 delete it from there it will vanish.
 Regards form
 Tom :)







 
 From: timecode i...@sokianos.de
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

 Hey Tom!

 Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
 http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
 zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
 a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

 This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
 trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

 Thanks in advance!
 timecode

 PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with Excel 2002

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Were you able to resolve this issue?  Did you get any decent answers from the 
Users List?  If not then it might be good to ask again now.  Sometimes people 
just need time to mull over questions but by then they have forgotten what they 
were mulling over as there are constant distractions.  Also new people join the 
lists all the time and everyone has different experience in different areas.
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Steve Morris samor...@netspace.net.au
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 0:01
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with 
Excel 2002
 
Hi,
    I am trying to reproduce spreadsheets created at work in Excel 2002 in 
Libreoffice 3.6 under Linux and can't do it because pivottables and charts are 
not functionally compatible.
    When I create the pivottable and drag the fields to the layout I have the 
following issues:
        At field add time I cannot rename the field nor can I specify the 
format of the field if I want a different format to the source (Excel allows 
both at drag time).
        I am not allowed to rename at any time the fields in the page section 
of the layout (Excel allows this at drag time).
        There is no pivottable toolbar, hence there is no way to add 
calculated fields to the pivottable (Excel provides this functionality along 
with additional functionality available from the toolbar).
        I cannot click on a column in the data portion of the pivottable and 
drag the column to a new location in the data portion (Excel allows this, and 
I have a spreadsheet where this functionality is mandatory for the data to be 
displayed from month to month as a new months worth of data is automatically 
added to the table).
    When I create a chart and define 2 data series to be plotted, Calc appears 
to not allow me to display each series as a different chart type (Excel allows 
this by plotting both series using the same chart type, then by clicking on 
the series excel allows it to be changed from say a bar chart to a line chart, 
and allows this to be done for any subsequently added series).

    What is the possibility of getting this functionality in calc so that it 
can be used as a functional replacement for older versions of excel.

regards,
Steve



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread timecode
Hello,

indeed, I'm dealing with linked graphics. I also took a look at the xml file
and found the correspondent references. I don't think it will be worth the
effort editing all those xml files, since I got quite some essays with a
zillion footnotes each.


But thanks a lot for your help!
timecode



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Nino Novak
Hi timecode,

Am 29.08.2012 15:25 schrieb timecode:

 I save copies of essays from a scientific database. This database adds a
 little graphic to each footnote. I want to erase all these graphics from my
 documents. But how can I do that?

If there are no other graphic elements that you want to be shown, you can
comletely disable graphic display (Tools  Options  LibreOffice Writer  View 
Display)


 Is there an option that enables me to select all identical objects within
 the document after I selected one?

If you want to jump from graphics to graphics for deleting, you can use the
Navigator (F5). It's not ideal, but a bit quicker than manual navigation.

Nino



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ver. 3.6.1 still bad recognition date.

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 07:57, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is also planned to allow a user configuration 
 option to switch on/off certain formats for date recognition, but I 
 don't think that this has been integrated yet.

Code has been contributed yesterday, but it awaits review. Eike Rathke (guy 
responsible for this change) hopes that it will be incorporated in 3.6.3.

You can see status and patch here:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/511

Let's hope it will be in 3.6.3. Until then, users depending on this certain 
feature should stick with 3.5 line.
By the way: there will be at least one more release of 3.5, scheduled for mid-
October.
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[libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Hi all

I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
installing it.

I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).

Thanks for any information.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 31/08/12 1:48 AM, Dan wrote:

Gilles wrote:

Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text 
underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just 
the

text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.


 The User Guides for LO have what you want already. The answer is 
to use styles.
 Open the Styles and Formatting window (use F11 to do this). When 
it opens, right click Heading 2 and select Modify. Click the Border 
tab. You want to create a bottom border by clicking below the gray 
square in the User defined window. Select the thickness (width) for 
the line and the color you want to use. If you have a preference as to 
the type of line used, select that also. Click OK. This should do it.


--Dan
Can you not also highlight the H2 text, right click, edit paragraph 
style and then set the bottom border rather than opening the styles 
window (less scary for a new user).

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 20:14, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
 http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-p
 rompts-calls-to-disable-java/

This article already explains it:
Those who need Java to run applications such as Open Office or Freemind can 
still protect themselves by disabling Java in their browser to prevent drive-
by attacks on booby-trapped websites.

Until patch is provided, it might be wise to not open office documents from 
uncertain source (that is: all but your own). Most likely it is not needed, 
but it won't harm.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/30/2012 02:14 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

 Hi all

 I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
 http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

 I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
 installing it.

 I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
 clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).

 Thanks for any information.

 Cheers,

 Fabian Rodriguez
 http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca



AFAIK Java is primarily used by the embedded Base engine and possibly
some extensions. If you use a non-Java database (MySQL, Postgres,
MariaDB, etc) that does not use Java you do not need Java.

The security problems are Java problems and are not OS or app related
and can affect any computer running the unpatched Java version(s). My
understanding is the transmission is likely via rogue or corrupted
websites that use Java rather than via a downloaded Java app.

I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's the same old story.  


All this has happened before and will happen again  (any Battlestar Galactica 
fans out there?).  


Oracle tell us all that their new version of java is ultra safe and really is 
safe this time and that all their previous versions are horribly flawed and 
likely to cause widespread plagues and death etc to anyone that continues to 
use them.  Then their new ultra safe one is found to also have horrible flaws 
in it.  


As it happens it seems very few people actually seem to suffer or at least we 
never hear of it.  Still we keep advising people to update to the most recent 
possible version but to try avoiding it completely if they can.  For us the 
1.6_32 is currently the most usable as the 1.7 has never really worked well 
with LO.  


As time goes on it seems that java is compromised faster and faster.  Each new 
release lasting less and less time until some horror story emerges.   Their 1.7 
branch was supposed to be their best ever taking the whole thing to a new 
plateau of rock solid stability and sfaety but the 1st 4 versions got 
compromised even before release!  


Meanwhile the TDF devs working on LO have removed just about all dependancy on 
java.  There are still a few Wizards and Extensions that need it and, of 
course, the database program (but only if you use the internal embedded 
back-end) and all the Accessibility stuff.

So, the User List stance is to try to get people to try not using Java at all 
but if they do need it to use the one that does work with LO - which i don't 
think has been compromised just yet although that's probably just because it 
hasn't reached the mainstream media yet because it's considered an 'old' 
version even though it was released after the latest in the 1.7 branch.  


Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 19:14
Subject: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. 
LibreOffice?
 

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Hi all

I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
installing it.

I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).

Thanks for any information.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca



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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 20:33, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.

I have not tested myself, but people say it does not. Users of openJRE are 
safe from this one.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Even though both openJRE and standard java are both run by Oracle it seems that 
openJRE tends to be a bit safer.  Possibly something to do with running it 
through a community in a more OpenSource way.  

Regards from
Tom :)  







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To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 19:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. 
LibreOffice?
 
On 30/08/2012 at 20:33, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.

I have not tested myself, but people say it does not. Users of openJRE are 
safe from this one.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   [image: Inline image 1] yes, and I think you've just described the
'Gates' fiasco'  [image: Inline image 2]



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 I vaguely remember Norton updated their virus-definitions on Thursdays so
 i would schedule a look-for-updates for Fridays.  Of course MS do their
 updates on Tuesdays (=Patch Tuesday) so Norton/Symantec might have
 changed in the last decade or so.

 Of course if either find a particularly nasty problem then they do
 sometimes push patches or whatever out on a different day but it's fairly
 rare.  Of course an ISP might delay updates for a day or 2 so your machine
 might regularly get them a day or few later but i think by being regular MS
 and others have given ISPs a chance of knowing when they might get spikes
 so that those can be planned for easily.

 I still don't get why Windows doesn't have a package-manager that just
 updates everything all in one go instead of each different program being
 forced to set-up it's own separate method of keeping things up to date.
 Also i never had/have confidence in any machine having fully updated
 drivers and codecs and everything.  Windows appears to be carefully built
 to be insecure.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 From: Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:14

 webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
  Jeff Hahn wrote:
  When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
  keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first
 release
  that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
 
 
   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download
 file?
   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
  upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
  Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
 update,
  turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect
  to the Internet.
 
  --Dan
 
 
  This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
  files were viruses or other nasties.
 
  I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
  Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
  and selling pro's to using it.
 
  As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I
 would
  tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly
 there
  is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be
  picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have
 my
  Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my
 system
  for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.
  If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have
  been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their data
  systems, mostly, after a new nasty has been detected.  If your system
 has
  that nasty on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data
 system,
  then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and security
 system[s]
  on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not turn your
 computer
  security off.
 
  I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
  they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
  system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy
 lost
  a lot.

  Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been. I listed 5 steps
 that have been posted on lists like these when installing OOo. Programs
 like Norton will give false positives that prevent installation of a
 program. So, the AV program needs to be off when the installation is being
 done. However, the AV program should NOT be turned off until AFTER the
 computer is physically disconnected from the Internet. The installation
 should be done immediately after turning off the AV. The AV should be
 turned on again right after finishing the installation. At this point,
 verification that the AV is actually working is the next step. If it is
 not, steps have to be taken to get the AV working properly before doing
 anything else. Once this is done, reconnect to the Internet. My point was
 that the computer should not be connected to the Internet until AFTER the
 person knows that the AV is already working.
  Yes, anyone using an AV should weekly update it, sooner if there is a
 notice of an update because of a patch that is needed.

 --Dan



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[libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis

I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
all slides and not just the first?

Jerry

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Norton AntiVirus / poll

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   I too once used Norton - it was a great system;
then I switched to AVG - ranked tops;
   when it slid below Avast!, I switched - it's been ranked
tops for the last few years now and updates daily, or more often.

   Let's see some poll results - who preferred what and why?; and now
who prefers what and why?

   Curiously wondering,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally
 amazing and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.

 Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised
 as being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with
 might have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research
 into it.

 One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known
 security so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless
 against any decent threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even
 the big and famous antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's
 non-trivial then there is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall
 your OS.  Still now that AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other
 options.

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27

 On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
  Jeff Hahn wrote:
  When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
  keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
  that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
 
 
   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download
 file?
   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
 upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
  Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
 update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
 reconnect to the Internet.
 
  --Dan
 

 This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
 files were viruses or other nasties.

 I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
 Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
 and selling pro's to using it.

 As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I
 would tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly
 there is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can
 be picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have
 my Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my
 system for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not
 like.  If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not
 have been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their
 data systems, mostly, after a new nasty has been detected.  If your
 system has that nasty on it before that nasty has been added to your AV
 data system, then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and
 security system[s] on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not
 turn your computer security off.

 I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
 they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
 system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost
 a lot.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
On 08/29/2012 01:19 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 
 @Dan: I moved /libreoffice3.6/share/extensions to
 /libreoffice3.6/share/extensions_bak and did another install. Same errors:
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
  libreoffice3.6-dict-es_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
  libreoffice3.6-dict-fr_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
 (and on 32bit deb as well).
 
 I'll test by removing 3.6 completely.

Did that  still encountered the errors. Seems that this is an regression:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41290
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41237




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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish making
the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab (where you go to
save your document) then below that option is the option to send to
[various options]; click on the option you desire -
the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send to
e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached - just
copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the close the
opened e-mail program.

   Hoping this helps,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote:

I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

 I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
 All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
 the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

 Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
 all slides and not just the first?

 Jerry


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version. Linux
 has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the folder
 containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use is also 64
 bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6) with all the
 patches.

 LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64_**install-deb_en-US

 --Dan


 Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be
 32 bit too.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05

 On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
 then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
 told which version of java to use so it might work Tools - Options -
 Java Regards from Tom :)


 That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

 Peter HB



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[libreoffice-users] 3.6.1 dictionary installs (.deb) fail bork dpkg/apt-get

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
Yesterday in the 'Update to 3.6.1' thread I installed 3.6.1 (debian
files) on 32bit and 64bit systems. Both experienced installations errors:

http://pastebin.com/3aKwSYP1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
 libreoffice3.6-dict-es_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
 libreoffice3.6-dict-fr_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
(and on 32bit deb as well).

To make things worse, when attempting to update an Opera browser today I
found out that the above were completely broken  couldn't be purged in
any normal fashion. Went searching and came across this bug reports:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202 - open
[Error while installing Dutch Linux Deb (x64) main installer with
command dpkg -i *]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41290 - closed as dupe of 41237
[dictionaries do not install in daily builds as of 28/9/2011]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41237 - closed
[Installation of dictionaries failed with
/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager: loading
component library failed]

I was finally able to clean my systems (see:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202#c3 ), but still have
not been able to install the dictionaries. I may have found the problem:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202#c5

$ debdiff libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.0.4-104_i386.deb
libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_i386.deb
[The following lists of changes regard files as different if they have
different names, permissions or owners.]

Files in first .deb but not in second
-
-rwxr-xr-x  root/root   DEBIAN/postinst
-rwxr-xr-x  root/root   DEBIAN/postrm

Control files: lines which differ (wdiff format)

Installed-Size: [-26208-] {+26224+}
Version: [-3.6.0.4-104-] {+3.6.1.2-2+}

Has anyone else experience the same issue with the .deb install?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis


On 08/30/2012 04:13 PM, anne-ology wrote:
   Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish 
making the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab 
(where you go to save your document) then below that option is the 
option to send to [various options]; click on the option you desire -
the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send 
to e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached 
- just copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the 
close the opened e-mail program.


   Hoping this helps,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com 
mailto:ge...@pagestation.com wrote:


I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
all slides and not just the first?

Jerry



Yes - I am refering to Impress.

That is what  I did, File, Export, select Macromedia Flash, enter my 
filename, do save, it shows a progress bar likes it doing it, I get a 
file,  - but when I play the file it is ONLY one slide. It never moves 
nothing. My slides are auto advancing at 10 seconds, I have tried 2 - 10 
seconds. All the same. Never advances ot the next slide.


Should would like to have this work??? Am I doing something wrong ?
Thanks,

Jerry

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Dan
 I believe that Tom and I were talking about LibreOffice on Windows. I 
have a 64 bit computer which had VISTA running until I replace that with 
Ubuntu. But LO does not have a 64 bit LO version which I thought was the 
train of thought.


--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com
mailto:elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

  As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version.
Linux has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the
folder containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use
is also 64 bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6)
with all the patches.

LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64___install-deb_en-US

--Dan


Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java
to be 32 bit too.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com
mailto:p...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05

On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
told which version of java to use so it might work Tools -
Options -
Java Regards from Tom :)


That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

Peter HB




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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   Following the steps I outlined should work;
  the other options have been flawed since OO so use the 'send to
e-mail' then copy attachment, save this to your machine then close the
e-program.



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote:


 On 08/30/2012 04:13 PM, anne-ology wrote:

Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish making
 the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab (where you go to
 save your document) then below that option is the option to send to
 [various options]; click on the option you desire -
 the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send to
 e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached - just
 copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the close the
 opened e-mail program.

Hoping this helps,



 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.commailto:
 ge...@pagestation.com** wrote:

 I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

 I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
 All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
 the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

 Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
 all slides and not just the first?

 Jerry


  Yes - I am referring to Impress.

 That is what  I did, File, Export, select Macromedia Flash, enter my
 filename, do save, it shows a progress bar like it's doing it, I get a
 file,  - but when I play the file it is ONLY one slide. It never moves
 nothing. My slides are auto advancing at 10 seconds, I have tried 2 - 10
 seconds. All the same. Never advances ot the next slide.

 Should would like to have this work??? Am I doing something wrong ?
 Thanks,

 Jerry


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   so I'm using both 32  64 on this machine ???

   ok, I believe you;
now just another question -
could this be the reason for so many bugs? -
   [seems as if this list has been listing quite a few
recently, some I've never even seen  ???]



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe that Tom and I were talking about LibreOffice on Windows. I
 have a 64 bit computer which had VISTA running until I replace that with
 Ubuntu. But LO does not have a 64 bit LO version which I thought was the
 train of thought.

 --Dan

 anne-ology wrote:

 You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.



 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

   As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version.
 Linux has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the
 folder containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use
 is also 64 bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6)
 with all the patches.

 LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64___**install-deb_en-US


 --Dan


 Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java
 to be 32 bit too.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org mailto:users@global.**
 libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org

 Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05

 On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If
 it is
 then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO
 can be
 told which version of java to use so it might work Tools -
 Options -
 Java Regards from Tom :)


 That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

 Peter HB



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[libreoffice-users] Sun dll shlxthdl and windows explorer.exe crash

2012-08-30 Thread Heikki Jussila
Hi,

Today something strange happend to me. All of the sudden explorer.exe di
Windows (in VISTA) started to crash in an intervall of approximately 20
seconds.

I finally found out that the reason was a crash of shlxthdl.dll of Sun
Microsystems, which I found from the program directories of LO 3.6

However, the funny or problematic issue was that this crash occured only on
my main user profile and not on the other profile that I had on this
machine, even changing the user to (normal) did not help. I made new clean
profiles.

This issue came after I had updated from 3.5.5 to 3.6 version (3.6.0.104 to
be exact at least according to the SUN dll). The problem continued also
sporadically in new profiles (especially with the one with admin rights). I
finally had to uninstall LO 3.6 (and the leftovers of 3.5) and the problems
have now gone away.

I wonder what could be the reason for this since LO did not start at boot
time so it could not have been that, and was not used at the time. Could it
be that LO needs JAVA for some operations and those run in anycase?

I did have JAVA at the time of first install of LO 3.3 something, but I
uninstalled it and did not have any problems with versions prior to 3.6.

Heikki Jussila

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[libreoffice-users] Re: What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
On 08/30/2012 11:14 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of
 it?: 
 http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

  I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people
 end up installing it.
 
 I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but
 nothing clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).
...

Update to Java 7u7:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html
https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

and as an FYI, openjdk-6, openjdk-7 *are* vulnerable according to this:
http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-4681



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun dll shlxthdl and windows explorer.exe crash

2012-08-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Probably related to the LibreOffice's Windows Explorer extension

Most issues fixed with 3.6.1 build.

Ref these bugzilla reports: 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52078
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53533

Install a current Java JRE and LO 3.6.1 and should resolve.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

It all seems so difficult..

If you have a write document, run this macro and remove ALL graphic objects

Sub RemoveAllGraphics
  Dim i As Integer
  Dim oGraphic

  If ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getCount() = 0 Then
Exit Sub
  End If

  For i = ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getCount() - 1 To 0 Step -1
oGraphic = ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getByIndex(i)
oGraphic.Dispose()
  Next
End Sub



On 08/30/2012 08:26 AM, timecode wrote:

Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the Thumbnails folder and
a folder named imagesin the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis


On 08/30/2012 05:14 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Following the steps I outlined should work;
  the other options have been flawed since OO so use the 'send 
to e-mail' then copy attachment, save this to your machine then close 
the e-program.




I tried the 'send-to-email' and evolution is not installed so thats not 
working either.
Additionally I want to batch these processes in the end, I was just 
trying to get something that works.


I also just tried this:
soffice -headless -convert-to swf animation.ppt

While that converts it, I have to click on the screen to get it to advance.
How can I get past that?
I have auto transiltion in 5 seconds set.

Jerry


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[libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run

2012-08-30 Thread rcdawson
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 09:00:40 AM you wrote:

Hi :) 
Do we know if this problem has been solved yet?  Has the OP been in contact? 
Regards from 
Tom :)  

This problem hasn't been solved, but I did find a work-around.  The problem I 
was trying to address with spadmin was to change the default printing language 
from pdf to postscript.  I didn't think reading the man page was going to 
solve my problem, so I didn't persue that possibility.  Instead, I have just 
created templates with the postcript as the default.  That seems to work.
It would be nice to know why spadmin doesn't run, however.

Richard






 
 From: Felmon Davis [hidden email] 
To: Tom [hidden email] 
Cc: [hidden email] 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 18:03 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run 
 
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Tom wrote: 
 
 Hi :) 
 Sorry for the late response! 
 
 An 'obvious' way to get a little bit more information about any unix-based 
 command is to add the tag -h or --help after the command.  In this case 
 it would be something like: 
 
 spadmin -h 
 
 or 
 
 spadmin --help 
 
 It's just a quick-help, cheat sheet.  There is a lot more info in the 
 manual which you can access using the man command (seems a little sexist 
 but it's really just short for manual).  So, try 
 
 man spadmin 
 
my understanding is that the OP (you have deleted the original post) wasn't 
getting it to run at all. 
 
he had a funny sign in front of the command which I thought might be an 
artifact produced by his email. he should be sure to invoke the command as 
 
./spadmin 
 
assuming he is in the same directory or give the whole path (without the 
leading dot). 
 
 Hmmm, i don't have spadmin installed on my machine so i got nothing from 
 either of those commands. 
 
I have it but it seems to belong to openoffice in my case (on this machine) 
and 
seems to require 'sudo' to invoke it as it's owned by root. 
 
 Regards from 
 Tom :) 
 
regards to you too! 
 
F. 
 
-- Felmon Davis 
 
Everything in the world may be endured except continual prosperity.  -- 
Johann von Goethe 
 
 
 
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