Re: [libreoffice-users] Column/Row highlighting

2024-05-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
We have used a release based numbering scheme until 2023, and we have 
moved to a calendar based numbering scheme starting from 2024.


LibreOffice 7.6.7 is the last release of the LibreOffice 7.6 family, the 
last based on the old numbering scheme. LibreOffice 24.2.3 is the third 
release of the LibreOffice 24.2 family, the first based on the new 
numbering scheme.


On 15/05/24 08:42, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2024/05/15 14:54, jbfa...@libreoffice.org wrote:

Hi,

Yes, you are missing something: this option is in LibreOffice, 
starting with 24.2. So upgrade to 24.2 and you will have it.
Probably I am a little stupid, but what is the difference between 
"24.2.3" and "7.6.7" (in my case 7.6.6).

These number look VERY different.

Or does it not really matter?
Thank you
Thomas


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Viewing odg documents

2024-05-14 Thread Italo Vignoli
Unfortunately, Windows 10 can cause such problems by simply losing the 
association between a non-Microsoft application such as LibreOffice and 
its files (which are stored in the Documents folder).


Please try the following solution: (1) right-click on any LibreOffice 
file, (2) select Open with, (3) left-click on Select other application, 
(4) click on the LibreOffice (Writer, Calc, Impress) icon, (5) check 
Always use the selected application to open the file, (6) and press OK.


If this doesn't solve the problem, then Windows 10 has messed up the 
association in the Windows registry, and the solution is not trivial at 
all, as the Windows registry should be managed by someone who is expert 
in this area to avoid screwing up the entire Windows 10 installation.


In this case, the best option is to uninstall and reinstall LibreOffice 
from scratch, as this process may reset file associations. Please check 
that the file associations are set correctly during the installation by 
selecting all the checkboxes in the corresponding dialogue box.


Best regards.


On 14/05/24 17:00, Harold J. McMann wrote:

I have updated Libreoffice installed, and on the sheet of documents, some of
the odg items shown as icons give me a "does not exist" message when I click
on them.  How can I access these items?  Thanks!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO pptx-file cannot be opened in MS-Office

2024-05-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
The scary message from Microsoft 365 is shown independently from the 
quality of the PPTX, as soon as the software realizes that the file has 
not been produced by Microsoft 365 or Microsoft Office. Please do mind 
that Microsoft 365 is not as flexible as Microsoft Office (desktop) when 
handling documents not produced by Microsoft 365 (this of course is done 
on purpose to lock in users). The quality of the PPTX is way worse than 
the average quality of PPTX, which is already poor, and this may be a 
reason for the issue.


On 02/05/24 12:59, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

This attempt (conversion of wmf/emf to png) did not work, as the
colleague has just informed me. He is using Windows 10 (22H2, x64) and
Microsoft 356 (current version). His error starts with an invitation to
repair the pptx followed by a statement that some of the pptx
(protected) content could not be repaired and is removed. I am trying
to find out which content may have been removed, as that would be the
potential culprit.

Cheers
Harvey


On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 10:48 +0200, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Thanks. One of the pictures is in wmf format (whatever that is!). All
the others are either png or jpg. I have converted the wmf to png,
but
now I have to wait for my colleague to be free enough to test it.

Cheers
Harvey


On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 10:20 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:

Check the pictures, I am sure there is one which creates the issue.

On 30/04/24 10:13, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Hallo Italo,

Thank you very much for your offer. Unfortunately, the slides
contain
personal data, that I cannot really share.

For your information, I am obliged to use a given format for each
slide
that contains a photo and text box with information, with further
text
boxes for flexible usage.

Cheers
Harvey

On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 10:03 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:

In my experience, in the extremely rare cases where this
happens,
the
problem lies in one or more graphic elements in the master or
in
one
or
more slides.

Usually, these are non-standard EPS images - the ones that
cause
the
most problems are those generated by the latest Adobe software
-
which
make the file unreadable by MS PowerPoint.

In these cases, the EPS image should be opened with Inkscape,
saved
as
PNG and replaced in the slide(s).

To provide a more precise opinion, though, I should see the
file.

If you can send it to my address as attachment (the list
doesn't
accept
attachments) I can double check.

On 30/04/24 09:34, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Each month I have to prepare a contribution to a
presentation.
I write my contribution in LO-Impress as .odp, save it and
send
it
as
.pptx for a colleague to integrate it using MS-Office with
other
pptx.
presentations.

This usually works well, but last month the colleague who
does
the
pptx
integration could not open my file. Until last month the
above
procedure worked well and failed in the last week of March.

Is anyone able to put their finger on a possible
cause/solution?

I am using OpenSUSE Linux 15.5 with LO
Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 420(Build:2)
CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 5.14; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded

I expect an input from the colleague about his Office/Windows
versions.

Best regards
Harvey Nimmo








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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO pptx-file cannot be opened in MS-Office

2024-04-30 Thread Italo Vignoli

Check the pictures, I am sure there is one which creates the issue.

On 30/04/24 10:13, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Hallo Italo,

Thank you very much for your offer. Unfortunately, the slides contain
personal data, that I cannot really share.

For your information, I am obliged to use a given format for each slide
that contains a photo and text box with information, with further text
boxes for flexible usage.

Cheers
Harvey

On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 10:03 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:

In my experience, in the extremely rare cases where this happens, the
problem lies in one or more graphic elements in the master or in one
or
more slides.

Usually, these are non-standard EPS images - the ones that cause the
most problems are those generated by the latest Adobe software -
which
make the file unreadable by MS PowerPoint.

In these cases, the EPS image should be opened with Inkscape, saved
as
PNG and replaced in the slide(s).

To provide a more precise opinion, though, I should see the file.

If you can send it to my address as attachment (the list doesn't
accept
attachments) I can double check.

On 30/04/24 09:34, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Each month I have to prepare a contribution to a presentation.
I write my contribution in LO-Impress as .odp, save it and send it
as
.pptx for a colleague to integrate it using MS-Office with other
pptx.
presentations.

This usually works well, but last month the colleague who does the
pptx
integration could not open my file. Until last month the above
procedure worked well and failed in the last week of March.

Is anyone able to put their finger on a possible cause/solution?

I am using OpenSUSE Linux 15.5 with LO
Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 420(Build:2)
CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 5.14; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded

I expect an input from the colleague about his Office/Windows
versions.

Best regards
Harvey Nimmo






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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO pptx-file cannot be opened in MS-Office

2024-04-30 Thread Italo Vignoli
In my experience, in the extremely rare cases where this happens, the 
problem lies in one or more graphic elements in the master or in one or 
more slides.


Usually, these are non-standard EPS images - the ones that cause the 
most problems are those generated by the latest Adobe software - which 
make the file unreadable by MS PowerPoint.


In these cases, the EPS image should be opened with Inkscape, saved as 
PNG and replaced in the slide(s).


To provide a more precise opinion, though, I should see the file.

If you can send it to my address as attachment (the list doesn't accept 
attachments) I can double check.


On 30/04/24 09:34, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

Each month I have to prepare a contribution to a presentation.
I write my contribution in LO-Impress as .odp, save it and send it as
.pptx for a colleague to integrate it using MS-Office with other pptx.
presentations.

This usually works well, but last month the colleague who does the pptx
integration could not open my file. Until last month the above
procedure worked well and failed in the last week of March.

Is anyone able to put their finger on a possible cause/solution?

I am using OpenSUSE Linux 15.5 with LO
Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 420(Build:2)
CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 5.14; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded

I expect an input from the colleague about his Office/Windows versions.

Best regards
Harvey Nimmo




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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem

2024-04-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice updates don't touch documents, while Windows updates can 
cause such problems by simply losing the association between a 
non-Microsoft application such as LibreOffice and its files, which are 
stored in the Documents folder.


Please try the following solution: (1) right-click on any LibreOffice 
file, (2) select Open with, (3) left-click on Select other application, 
(4) click on the LibreOffice (Writer, Calc, Impress) icon, (5) check 
Always use the selected application to open the file, (6) and press OK.


If this doesn't solve the problem, then Windows 10 has messed up the 
association in the Windows registry, and the solution is not trivial at 
all, as the Windows registry should be managed by someone who is expert 
in this area to avoid screwing up the entire Windows 10 installation.


In this case, the best option is to uninstall and reinstall LibreOffice 
from scratch, as this process may reset file associations. Please check 
that the file associations are set correctly during the installation by 
selecting all the checkboxes in the corresponding dialogue box.


Best regards.


On 15/04/24 13:52, Paul Moore wrote:
hi what is going on with the updates as all my documents that are listed 
just come up with lines and nothing else


and i cant seem to get them back. i can see them on the recent documents 
but that's all. hopefully something can be done


thanking you Paul



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't open new version of LO

2024-04-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
When you hit the yellow DOWNLOAD button, the download starts in 
background without any visible activity on your screen. We suggest to 
open the browser DOWNLOAD page to check the status. Please do not close 
the browser until you are sure the download has finished.


If the download does not start, please try with another server. To 
change server, you should click on the INFO link just below the yellow 
DOWNLOAD button, and select one from the list that you find in the page 
which opens after you click on the INFO link.


You should also check that the download link starts with HTTPS, as 
otherwise the browser will not download the file. If this is not the 
case, please change the server based on the instructions from the 
previous paragraph.


Please note that you can retry the download as many times as you want 
provided that you do not close the browser window before the download 
has completed. You can ignore the donation request, as donations are 
optional and help us to keep the project alive.


If everything works properly, when the download has finished a window 
will open asking you to choose between executing the installer or saving 
the file on your hard disk. Please choose the second option, and save 
the file inside your DOWNLOADS folder.


Then open the DOWNLOADS folder, and double click on the file (the name 
starts with LibreOffice, and ends with .MSI on Windows and with .DMG on 
macOS). Carefully follow the instructions on the screen until the end of 
the installation process.


If everything works properly, LibreOffice will be installed properly and 
will show up in your menu (for Windows) or in your Applications folder 
(for macOS).


Sorry for the long message. I hope this helps. Best regards.


On 01/04/24 17:29, Bill Bauer wrote:

I was running version 7.4 & got a notice to download 7.6.6.3.  After
downloading & restarting my computer, when I click on the new version icon
on my desktop, the icon highlights but the program never opens.
 I am running Windows 7(yes I know it's a bit old & I am looking to
replace this computer) but I do need Libre Office to continue my work until
I can get the new computer.
 I would appreciate any advice.  Maybe deleting the program completely &
try downloading it again?  Please help now.

Bill Bauer


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Re: [libreoffice-users] My files disappear

2023-07-25 Thread Italo Vignoli
Files are usually in the Documents folder, but Windows can lose the 
association between a non Microsoft application such as LibreOffice and 
its files, and make it impossible to open them with the usual approach.


Please check the following solution: (1) right-click on any LibreOffice 
file, (2) select Open With, (3) left-click on Select other Application, 
(4) click on the LibreOffice (Writer, Calc, Impress) icon, (5) tick the 
Always Use Selected Application to open the file, (6) and press OK.


If this doesn't solve the issue, then Windows 10 has screwed up the 
association in the Windows Registry, and the solution is not trivial at 
all, as the Windows Registry should be managed by someone who is expert 
in this area to avoid screwing up the entire Windows 10 installation.


In this case the best option is to uninstall and reinstall LibreOffice 
from scratch, as this process may reset file associations. Please check 
that file associations are properly set during the installation, by 
flagging all checkboxes in the appropriate dialog window.


Best regards.


On 25/07/23 21:36, Linda Rutenberg wrote:

Hi Thanks for your help.. when I go to retrieve files that i have written a 
couple of days earlier, they always say that they do not exist.. I see them 
when I go to recent documents but they are not there..
I deleted the application and reinstalled it but i have the same issue..
Why??
Thanks
Linda




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Data centre locations

2023-04-24 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice for the desktop stores files on the hard disk or on the data 
center of your choice. LibreOffice Online is available from ecosystem 
companies (not from The Document Foundation), and is associated with the 
cloud of your choice. We suggest to use Nextcloud, which is European and 
can be installed on any data center, including European ones compliant 
with the GDPR.


On 24/04/23 17:11, Adam Badcock wrote:

Hi

We have a potential requirement to use LibreOffice but before we allow this can 
you confirm where our data would be stored? For us to use Libre office the data 
centre needs to sit within the EU/UK to ensure GDPR compliance and not be 
shared across international data centres. Does this only apply to LibreOffice 
in the cloud?

Thank you

Adam Badcock
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] hardening libreoffice 7.4.1

2022-11-03 Thread Italo Vignoli

Buongiorno,

LibreOffice Community viene supportato da volontari, e non da personale 
specializzato nell'installazione a livello enterprise, per la quale 
esistono soluzioni professionali fornite da aziende (che hanno un costo 
non paragonabile a quello delle licenze dei programmi proprietari): 
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-in-business/. L'elenco 
dei professionisti certificati è disponibile qui: 
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/.


Per quanto riguarda l'installazione sicura di LibreOffice, ci sono 
queste risorse disponibili in rete che forniscono alcune indicazioni: 
https://github.com/securitywithoutborders/hardentools/issues/30 e 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Deployment_and_Migration.


Cordiali saluti.

On 11/3/22 09:47, Tricella Gianluca wrote:

HI,
we are going to install on a server libreoffice rel 7.4.1.
We would like to know how to harden the software.
Can you send us possible configuration to do it?

Best regards
Gianluca Tricella



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Re: [libreoffice-users] possible to know still or fresh looking at version number?

2022-09-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
The latest is what we used to call fresh, and the previous one is what 
we used to call still. The distinction between fresh and still has been 
deprecated a long time ago, and is not used anymore.


On 9/4/22 10:09, jindam, vani wrote:

hello lo users,

is it possible to quickly tell whether lo is
fresh or still by looking at version number?

regards,
jindam, vani


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Re: [libreoffice-users] default position of sidebar

2022-01-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice sidebar has always been on the right side, but could also be 
moved to the left. You can undock the sidebar to drag it to the right by 
clicking on the three line icon (Sidebar Settings) on top of the sidebar 
option icons (with the Sidebar on the left, it should be just below the 
File menu), and choosing Undock. The Sidebar should move to the center 
of the screen, from where you can drag it with the mouse to the right (a 
black outline should show the new position).


On 1/20/22 21:57, Robert McClure wrote:
The default position of the sidebar until recently was on the right. Now 
it is on the left. How can the default be set to be on the right again? 
This first happened on 7.24 and is the same on 7.25.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Download version 6.7.4.2.

2021-06-09 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice 6.7.4.2 does not exist, you are probably referring to 
LibreOffice 6.4.7.2, which is an old version and can be downloaded from 
the following link: 
https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/.


Best regards.


On 6/8/21 1:21 PM, Juan José Fernández wrote:

Hi,

i've tried to download libre office version 6.7.4.2 but once I open the
link where the version is,  there is no available link to download.

Could you please tell me how is it  possible to download?!

Thank you very much!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] videos in impress

2021-05-20 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 5/20/21 10:32 AM, Mike Scott wrote:


Maybe. Thanks for the input.


I've now looked in content.xml. The difference between getting the video 
in by drag and drop, and via the Insert menu seems to be purely that D 
links, while insert (by default) embeds the video. All other parameters 
seem the same:


Yes, insert follows the standard behaviour vs the file format, and also 
makes the presentation interoperable. Drag and drop works, but is not as 
accurate as insert. I have never used drag and drop with Impress once I 
have realized the advantages of using insert.


If I do an insert, and ask for the video to be linked, I again get the 
poor fade-in  behaviour - the dummy placeholder shows (behind the text) 
as the slide fades in and is replaced by the playing video (on top of 
the text) when fade-in is complete.


Doesn't seem affected by switching between nv and nouveau graphics drivers.

I've no idea yet where the z ordering is saved. In all cases the video 
plays in front of everything else. Might this be a video hardware 
limitation of some sort?


I will check. I can sed the video back, and have the text on top of it, 
maybe is just the configuration of the text animation (as the text to be 
on top of the video has to be managed with an animation).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] videos in impress

2021-05-13 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 5/13/21 4:59 PM, Mike Scott wrote:

Sorry for following up my own post, but the laptop results were 
unexpected. Either drag-and-drop or using menu Insert gave the same 
results - both produced an object showing the blue 'film' icon, in the 
design mode, and at the video start when running a slide show. It's a 
recent low-end Dell pentium laptop, Intel integrated graphics. It's 
running the same version of LO/Mint as the desktop I normally use.


I have the same consistent behaviour on the Linux Mint desktop and 
laptop, and on the Windows 10 laptop (all based on Intel architectures). 
I also have the same behaviour on my Intel based MacBook. I don't think 
I have ever seen a different behaviour, but my memory may fail here.


Actually, I have been repeating the process - video with superimposed 
text - since September 2013, when I have used it for the first time at 
LibreOffice Conference in Milan. Since then, I have changed at least 
three MacBooks and three Linux PCs. So, really weird.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] videos in impress

2021-05-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
Using the process I have described, the video can be sent to back as any 
other object, and you can superimpose the text. Also, no icon shows at 
the start of the video.


Done in over 200 presentations during the last 10 years.

On 5/13/21 9:48 AM, Mike Scott wrote:

(resent)

Thank you for your reply.

However, the issue is not that I cannot insert a video into a slide. The 
problems are (a) that the inserted video is always "on top" of other 
objects, whereas I want text superimposed over the video, and (b) the 
annoying icon that always seems to show at the start of the video (and 
sometimes at the end).


My possible workaround is to use OBS Studio instead, which has other 
issues but at least gives an easy option to have changing text 
superimposed onto a video without artifacts. I'd rather use LO though!



On 12/05/2021 13:06, Italo Vignoli wrote:

Menu Insert > Audio or Video

Choose the video from the selection window, deselect "Insert as Link"

The video will be placed in the middle of the slide, as a normal 
object (which can be aligned or arranged)


Using the handles, reside the video to the expected size

Menu Insert > Text Box

Click to position the text box over the video, and then create the 
animation to manage the text box (please be careful, the mouse click 
can advance to the next slide because of the video, so you may have to 
use timings to show/hide text boxes)


Anyway, this is explained in the LibreOffice Impress Manual, with lot 
of details


On 5/12/21 12:19 PM, Mike Scott wrote:

Hi all.

I've steered clear for some years of trying to include a video in an 
impress presentation, as I've always had problems.


The need has re-arisen however, and I'm stuck on two points:

1. The video is always "on top" of other items, irrespective of any 
"send to back" setting. I need a video with superimposed text, and 
can't seem to manage this. What I'm trying to achieve is a video 
running in the background, with foreground text that changes on mouse 
click.


2. A video always seems to start with an icon (two frames of a film 
strip, in blue/white) rather than starting gracefully. It's the same 
icon used as placeholder when designing the slide. That gives a 
jarring loss of continuity when running the slide show. (Ironically, 
the icon obeys "send to back" where the video itself does not.)


Is there any work-round for these please?
Thanks.


LO 6.4.7.2 running on Mint 20.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] videos in impress

2021-05-12 Thread Italo Vignoli

Menu Insert > Audio or Video

Choose the video from the selection window, deselect "Insert as Link"

The video will be placed in the middle of the slide, as a normal object 
(which can be aligned or arranged)


Using the handles, reside the video to the expected size

Menu Insert > Text Box

Click to position the text box over the video, and then create the 
animation to manage the text box (please be careful, the mouse click can 
advance to the next slide because of the video, so you may have to use 
timings to show/hide text boxes)


Anyway, this is explained in the LibreOffice Impress Manual, with lot of 
details


On 5/12/21 12:19 PM, Mike Scott wrote:

Hi all.

I've steered clear for some years of trying to include a video in an 
impress presentation, as I've always had problems.


The need has re-arisen however, and I'm stuck on two points:

1. The video is always "on top" of other items, irrespective of any 
"send to back" setting. I need a video with superimposed text, and can't 
seem to manage this. What I'm trying to achieve is a video running in 
the background, with foreground text that changes on mouse click.


2. A video always seems to start with an icon (two frames of a film 
strip, in blue/white) rather than starting gracefully. It's the same 
icon used as placeholder when designing the slide. That gives a jarring 
loss of continuity when running the slide show. (Ironically, the icon 
obeys "send to back" where the video itself does not.)


Is there any work-round for these please?
Thanks.


LO 6.4.7.2 running on Mint 20.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help needed

2021-04-14 Thread Italo Vignoli

Hi Stephen,

On 4/14/21 3:20 PM, STEPHEN COLEMAN wrote:


   Fault Module Name: ucrtbase.DLL


The issue is related to ucrtbase.dll, which is a Windows module.

The gift_aid_schedule_libre_.ods file, which is easy to download from 
the UK Gov website, opens without any issue if that module is not faulty 
(I have just checked with Linux, macOS and Windows).


First, you should check if you LibreOffice installation conflicts with 
the faulty module by launching LibreOffice (double click on the program 
icon), without opening any file. If the software crashes, then there is 
a conflict, if the software opens, then there is a file specific conflict.


While you have to investigate with a Windows expert why your module is 
faulty, you can try one of the following workarounds:


1. Download the Excel version of the same file, which is available from 
the same page, and try to open it with LibreOffice (which is fully 
compatible with MS Office files).


2. Install the portable version of LibreOffice from the following page: 
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/. That version is 
not accessing system resources, so it should opeen the file without issues.


3. Uninstall LibreOffice 7.1.2 and reinstall LibreOffice 7.0.5 (the 
fourth digit is the release candidate version, so is not significant).


I hope one of these workaround works. Best regards.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changes in LO 7.0.3 affecting embedded images and objects?

2020-11-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
If the file has been saved as ODS, this is strange (although there are
minimal chances that the file is broken, but in any case it will be easy
to recover the images as they are stored inside the zipped file). If the
file has been saved as XLSX, then anything might have happened, as the
format is not reliable at all.

Of course, there might be a regression in the package provided by Mageia
but you can easily check if this is the case by downloading the AppImage
LibreOffice package - which runs on any Linux distro - to open the file.

LibreOffice AppImages are here:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/appimage/.

Best regards.

On 11/19/20 1:33 PM, aguador wrote:
> I just opened a file last saved on 10/11 (with LO 7.0.2, I believe)
> that did not show the embedded image and spreadsheet. It only had
> "image" and "object 1" in place of those items.
> 
> Has something changed in the latest release, or this more likely a
> packaging problem with Mageia Cauldron?
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about libreoffice

2020-09-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
You can find the procedure to install LibreOffice on your Chromebook in
this article: https://linuxhint.com/install_linux_apps_chromebook/.

As an alternative, you can install LibreOffice using Flatpack, which is
described in this article: https://flatpak.org/setup/Chrome%20OS/.

I hope this helps. Best regards.

On 9/5/20 11:15 PM, Daniel SOUSA PAULO CASIMIRO wrote:
> I have Chrome Os and I want what can I do to install libreoffice?
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office for older laptop and margin changes

2020-08-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice 6.4.6 is the same as LibreOffice 6.4.0 in term of features,
but is updated with bug and regression fixes (so, you should update your
newer PC as well). The fourth digit in the version number has no meaning
(it is the number of release candidates, so is a development related
information). Best regards.

On 8/21/20 11:30 PM, charles meyer wrote:
> I wanted to install Libre Officce for an older laptop so I was considering
> ver 6.4.0.3 (I have on a W10 laptop with an iCore 7 - so it;s newer.
> 
> But I couldn't find that version on the libre download page.
> 
> I found this
> https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/dl/win-x86/6.4.6/en-US/LibreOffice_6.4.6_Win_x86.msi
> 
> Would that be similar in look and function?
> 
> My older Libre Office version on that older laptop doesn't have Page Style
> on it so I wanted to adjust margins and have no idea how you do that on an
> older version and figured I 'd just install the one above which will
> hopefully have Page Style For Margin changes.
> 
> Your thoughts/suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Charles..
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: question

2020-07-29 Thread Italo Vignoli
If you are using the LibreOffice version from the Ubuntu repository,
please remember that it is not the official vanilla version from TDF but
is repackaged by Canonical (and as such may include bugs not present in
the official version from The Document Foundation).

LibreOffice included with Ubuntu 16.04 is very old (four years, for a
product updated every six months, are a geological era), and features of
Calc have been improved on a regular basis. We are now at 6.4.5, and in
a week we will announce 7.0.

On 7/29/20 2:12 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> Absolutely, but 20.04.1 LTS is a minor upgrade which has some of the
> bugs of 20.04 that have been fixed prior to the cut off date set for
> 20.04.1. I have checked the box which will produce  the notice that a
> new version is available. I do not get this notice until the *.04.1
> minor upgrade is available.
> 
> An example of this occurred several years ago. The *.04 version (I do
> not remember the year) failed to contain the proper driver for a
> specific monitor. This was added before  the *.04.1 minor upgrade came out.
> 
> On 7/28/20 18:54, Joe wrote:
>> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has been available since April. The next due out is
>> 20.10, not due until October 2020.
>>
>> On 7/28/20 8:43 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/28/20 05:31, Luuk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 27-7-2020 20:27, fudmier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-07-27 11:39 a.m., fudmier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my linux 16.04 box .. each time i perform any function that
>>>>>> involves switching between tabs, or between certain activities
>>>>>> within the same A
>>>>>> tab my computer goes into Oh shit mode.. it disables my keyboard
>>>>>> activity, and the disk goes to spinning,, the background of the
>>>>>> spreadsheet goes into grey mode, and it sometimes takes two or
>>>>>> three minutes before the full control reappears and the background
>>>>>> returns back from greyed out to white again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is this this has been going on since last November.. but it has
>>>>>> reached epidemic proportions .. and has rendered Libre office
>>>>>> useless on my machine
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> hard to tell without knowing some things like:
>>>>
>>>> 1) what is the size of this worksheet?
>>>>
>>>> 2) how much internal memory do you have on your machine?
>>>>
>>>> 3) what version of LibreOffice?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With 'linux 16.04' you probably mean Ubuntu 16.04 ? This means you
>>>> should upgrade before April 2021 (see:
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases)
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 20.04.1 is due out in the next couple of weeks unless the
>>> covid 19 virus is slowing things down...
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] OO replace file names when salve as or export a file

2020-05-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
So, you are a power user on Debian, and you have the RC1 of the next
LibreOffice version installed (LibreOffice 6.4.4 will be released tomorrow).

Your Help system, though, is still LibreOffice 6.4.2, but I don't think
this might be the source of the problem.

LibreOffice 6.4.4 RC2 behaves OK on Linux Mint, and provides the name of
the open file which the user wants to rename, and not the name of the
first file in the folder.

Actually, the behaviour should not change between system and LibreOffice
dialogs, so if this happens the culprit might be the user profile. Try
to rename it adding -old to the name, to force the creation of a new
user profile.

On 5/20/20 4:47 PM, Marcelo Laia wrote:

> Linux marcelo 5.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.6.7-1 (2020-04-29) x86_64 
> GNU/Linux

> ii  libreoffice-base-core 1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-calc  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-common1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
> ii  libreoffice-core  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-draw  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-gnome 1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-gtk3  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> rc  libreoffice-help-common   1:6.4.2-3 all
> rc  libreoffice-help-en-us1:6.4.2-3 all
> ii  libreoffice-impress   1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-l10n-pt-br1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
> ii  libreoffice-math  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreoffice-style-colibre 1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
> ii  libreoffice-style-elementary  1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
> ii  libreoffice-style-tango   1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
> ii  libreoffice-writer1:6.4.4~rc1-1 amd64
> ii  libreofficekit-data   1:6.4.4~rc1-1 all
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Re: [libreoffice-users] OO replace file names when salve as or export a file

2020-05-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
The software name is LibreOffice. Please avoid using any kind of
reference to OpenOffice. To provide a sensible answer, we should know
which operating system (including the version) and which version of
LibreOffice you are using.

With the last version of LibreOffice on Linux Mint, the behaviour is
correct, so it is impossible to reproduce the problem.

Best regards.

On 5/20/20 3:22 PM, Marcelo Laia wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If I use "LibreOffice dialogs" set in "LibreOffice->General", "Open/Save
> Dialogs", "Use LibreOffice dialogs" checked, all time I need to "save
> as" or "export" a file, it have the file name changed to the first name
> in the dialog box save. It is annoying. Very annoying. Have a chance to
> set OO to didn't change the original file name?
> 
> Regards!
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Stratup issues

2020-05-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
Just discard the recovery process, might be some file left in the config.

On 5/12/20 4:59 PM, pete wrote:
> Hi Running and Arch Linux system here
> 
> when i try to start Libreoffice writer i get a box flash up saying  crash 
> files
> to recover then it just goes and Libreoffice does not start  i can find no
> crashed files  anyone any ideas
> 
> Pete
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffce 6.2.4 won't start after upgrade on Debian 9.9

2019-06-23 Thread Italo Vignoli
You can find Linux installation instructions here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux

We suggest to download the DEBS from the LibreOffice mirror system, and
install them according to the instructions.

Best regards.

On 20/06/19 19:37, Allen Seelye wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I am running Debian 9.9 and the system us fully up-to-date. I tried up
> upgrade LibreOffice this morning, and now it will not start.
> 
> If I start it from the desktop, the splash screen comes up and the
> progress bar moves about 1/3 of the way, then it goes away and nothing
> happens.
> 
> If I start it from the command line with "libreoffice6.2 --writer", the
> same thing happens only the terminal spits out "Application error".
> 
> -I've tried logging into the system with a brand new user, same results.
> -I've checked to make sure there are no LibreOffice processes running.
> -I've done "apt purge LibreOffice*" and verified that anything
> LibreOffice is removed from the system, rebooted, then installed and
> rebooted again, same problem.
> -Tried installing the old version again, no good.
> 
> I'm at a loss now. It was working this morning, and told me there was a
> new version available, which is what started all of this.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] CSV import trouble (numbers & locale)

2019-04-23 Thread Italo Vignoli
IMHO the issue could be related to the cell format, either to the number
of decimals or to the thousands separator. In any case, the cell format
can be tweaked.

On 23/04/19 17:06, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I'm producing a CSV for a customer of mine, which will import it with
> LibreOffice 6.2 on a Mac.
> 
> If LibreOffice locale (from Options menu item) is set to English,
> everything is fine; if it's set to Italian there are problems with numbers:
> _ 123.45 gets correctly read as 123,45 (we use comma for decimals in
> Italian);
> _ 123.456 is read as 123456, when it should be 123,456.
> 
> So my customer has to switch global locale, import the file and switch
> back (not sure if she also needs to restart LO).
> 
> 
> 
> What puzzles me is that she's also asked the locale in the import
> dialog, but what she chooses here doesn't seem to matter.
> 
> Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
> 
> 
> 
>  bye & Thanks
> av.
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Windows 7 EOL

2019-04-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
We will probably support Windows 7 for some time after EOL, but nothing has 
been decided yet. Windows 7 EOL will be at the same time of LibreOffice 
6.4, and the continued support, if any, will be communicated at that time.



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In data 21 aprile 2019 14:59:51 "Thane K. Sherrington" 
 ha scritto:



Will LibreOffice continue to support Windows 7 after MS ends support for
it on January 2020?  If so, how long is the planned support going to
continue?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice corrupted by Ubuntu failed upgrade

2019-04-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
In any case, the bug should be notified to Ubuntu, as they repackage 
LibreOffice (and in some cases they create specific bugs, which do not 
affect LibreOffice vanilla).


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In data 21 aprile 2019 18:07:43 Gilles Gravier  ha scritto:


Please don't spread nonesense. Ubuntu upgrades are designed to work well in
the VAST majority of cases.

Gilles

On Sun 21 Apr 2019, 18:04 jonathon,  wrote:


On 4/21/19 10:56 AM, Keith Bates wrote:
> So I thought I would upgrade from Ubuntu to 18.10 to 19.04. The normally

The only safe way to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu, to another, is
to wipe the drive, and install the new version of Ubuntu.

> Except Libre Office.

Uninstall LibreOffice.
Delete _all_ configuration files.
/home/user_name/config/.libreoffice/*

Delete _all_ files in /opt/libreoffice/*
from /home/user_name/
cd ..
cd ..
ls -alR | grep offic

Delete all folders and files that have libreoffice as part of their name.

Then download LibreOffice from
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/

Unpack and install LibreOffice.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw changes font when opening pdf text file.

2019-03-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
If the original PDF has been generated by a software which does not
provide the option of embedding fonts (as requested from the standard
format), or the user has not activated font embedding, there is not a
solution, and the issue is not LibreOffice but the PDF which has not
been generated properly.

LibreOffice does its best with the fonts installed on the system.

Of course, if you happen to know which is the original font used to
produce the PDF you can install that font - if free - and see if this
solves the issue.

Best regards.

On 18/03/2019 14:44, Malcolm Jaros wrote:
> It occurs to me that Draw does not recognise, or does not have, the font used 
> for the original document and substitutes one that it does have.
> My problem is that the original, serif, font is being substituted by a 
> monopitch font.
> Regards, MalJaros
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Malcolm Jaros" 
> To: "Global Users@" 
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:27:05 PM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw changes font when opening pdf text file.
> 
> I do apologize for not pointing out that I am using 6.2.1.2 on Ubuntu 18.04 
> 
> Regards, MalJaros 
> 
> 
> From: "Malcolm Jaros"  
> To: "Global Users@"  
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:24:12 PM 
> Subject: Draw changes font when opening pdf text file. 
> 
> Greetings All. 
> I would like to add a few words to the text embedded in a pdf file. 
> When the file is opened in Draw the text is displayed, and subsequently 
> saved, in a different font from the that in the original file. 
> This unfortunately changes the line length and hence the page layout, which 
> makes the amended copy unusable. 
> How can I prevent this? 
> Regards, MalJaros 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] PPA for Libreoffice 6.2

2019-02-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice PPAs are not managed by The Document Foundation, so you
should ask on Ubuntu forums or mailing lists

On 19/02/2019 22:48, Tony Arnold wrote:
> There does not seem to be a PPA available for version 6.2 of Libreoffice. Any 
> idea when this might become available?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 6.2 throwing "NoSuchElementException" errors

2019-02-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
Tested Translation Table with LibreOffice 6.2, and it works.

On 10/02/2019 18:00, Roy wrote:
> Is there anyone on 6.2 yet? I do not know if it is a change in LO
> (nothing jumped out in looking at the release notes) or a packaging
> problem, but my two Writer translation add-ons (Translation Table and
> Anaphraseus) are producing a BASIC error of type 
> 
> "com.sun.star.container.NoSuchElementException" 
> 
> when trying to load their library files, even though they worked fine
> with 6.1.4.
> 
> Has anyone see this or have any ideas?
> 
> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling Anaphraseus and changing
> macro protections to no avail.
> 
> OS: Mageia Linux 7, 64-bit
> 
> 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Request to Contribute Article

2019-01-23 Thread Italo Vignoli
We do not accept contributions from people outside our community of
volunteers. Next time, please avoid spamming several email address, as
this is a demonstration of a limited understanding of the netiquette and
increases the chances of receiving a "no, thanks" (as in this case).

On 23/01/2019 17:32, Shaira Williams wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am Shaira, a freelance writer & blogger.
> 
> I'm into tech blogging for past couple of years & wanted
> to contribute on more websites.
> 
> I want to contribute a post to your website blog
> section: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/
> 
> Please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shaira Williams
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split Screen

2018-10-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 18/10/2018 18:29, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

>> For example, I would like this capability when translating text from one
>> language to another in Writer.

You can use the Translation Table extension, which is not splitting the
screen (according to your request) but is creating a table where on the
left column you have the original text and in the right column you can
add the translated text.

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/extensions/translation-table

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Document is dark

2018-08-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
You have probably added a page background. You should check the menu
Format > Page > Area, and verify that it is set to None. Also, if you
are using one of Microsoft file formats to save the document, please
switch to the LibreOffice ODT native file format and use the Microsoft
DOC/DOCX file format only when you have to share the file with other
users (the Microsoft file format is less robust and more malware prone
than the LibreOffice ISO standard file format).

On 15/08/2018 15:04, Peggy wrote:
> I have been editing a document that I created. When I opened it to finish
> the last of the editing, It unusable. The pages are dark in a graduating
> way. The top is unreadable and gradually it lightens towards the bottom.

> I dread having to edit it again. I worked for hours on the file. Has anyone
> had this happen? Is there a way to fix it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use the Template site

2018-08-11 Thread Italo Vignoli
The Extension and Template website is under review, and during this
timeframe there might be usability issues.

On 11/08/2018 11:28, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> Is there any place that documents how to upload and manage projects in the
> Template site?
> 
> I created an account and by going to "submit you templates" I find a
> classical editor that allows me to write a lot of information about the
> project, upload an icon, a screenshot, tags to classify the project... but
> I cannot find how to attach the actual template! Does the project need to
> be "approved" in some way before uploading the file(s)?
> 
> Related with the uploading business: I've seen people in ask.libreoffice
> asking if it's possible to upload zip files, but not getting any answer.
> Which are the allowed file formats?
> 
> I'm planing a template with three versions (English, Spanish and Italian),
> and because it will use a custom toolbar it needs some documentation. Can I
> upload a "package with all three versions and the documentation?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation to another]

2018-04-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/04/2018 19:41, Virgil Arrington wrote:

> The functionality has not changed. The only change is that it has been 
> moved from "Insert > File..." to "Slides > Insert Slides from File..."

Maybe, trusting people is not a bad idea, especially when they try to
solve your problem providing the right answer.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation to another]

2018-04-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
So, what I tried to explain is that the feature has not changed, it has just 
been moved from one menu to another menu, and that there is an alternative to 
that feature.


Il 17 aprile 2018 17:11:44 CEST, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>   Curiously wondering why it's easier to open - if that's even
>possible - more than 1 version of LO
>   then going through all these steps ... when previously all could
>be done within 1 opened LO with a mere click from the Menu line ... ...
>...
>
>   Reminds me of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
>
>
>
>From: Italo Vignoli <it...@documentfoundation.org>
>Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation
>to
>another]
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
>With the latest versions of LibreOffice you have two different options
>for inserting slides from one presentation into another one, both
>tested
>and working on every platform.
>
>A. You can open two different LibreOffice presentations at the same
>time, and switch between them using the Window menu.
>
>When you have two presentations open you can copy and paste slides
>between them from the Slide Sorter view:
>
>1. Select multiple slides with the mouse while keeping the Ctrl key
>pressed
>2. Copying them by selecting Edit > Copy or by hitting Crtr+C
>3. Switch to the other presentation from Window > Presentation Name
>4. Past the slides after the selected slide from Edit > Paste or by
>hitting Ctrl+V
>
>B. You can insert multiple slides from another presentation into the
>open presentation from Slide > Insert Slide from File...
>
>1. Search and open the source presentation
>2. Select any number of slides or the entire presentation
>3. Click OK and wait for the process to complete
>
>I have just copied/pasted according to option A and inserted according
>to option B 60 slides of an 82 slide presentation into another 142
>slide
>presentation without any issue.
>
>Although I don't see the need of reverting to an old LibreOffice
>version
>to do the same thing in a different way, you can find old LibreOffice
>releases here:
>
>https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/
>
>
>
>On 12/04/2018 21:29, anne-ology wrote:
>
>>yes, & thank you for expressing what obviously I was unable to
>so
>do.
>>
>>There's also a problem with their copy & paste suggestion,
>since
>> that surely requires having more than one copy of LO open at one
>time,
>> which seems impossible since when I click on LO again, the opened one
>> appears rather than a new version.
>>
>>And when I've gone to the LO archives to attempt to download
>the
>> previous versions, it merely sends me back to the download page to
>download
>> the newest version.
>>
>>  PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW to download a previous version, if the
>latest
>> versions will no longer have this option available.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation to another]

2018-04-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
With the latest versions of LibreOffice you have two different options
for inserting slides from one presentation into another one, both tested
and working on every platform.

A. You can open two different LibreOffice presentations at the same
time, and switch between them using the Window menu.

When you have two presentations open you can copy and paste slides
between them from the Slide Sorter view:

1. Select multiple slides with the mouse while keeping the Ctrl key pressed
2. Copying them by selecting Edit > Copy or by hitting Crtr+C
3. Switch to the other presentation from Window > Presentation Name
4. Past the slides after the selected slide from Edit > Paste or by
hitting Ctrl+V

B. You can insert multiple slides from another presentation into the
open presentation from Slide > Insert Slide from File...

1. Search and open the source presentation
2. Select any number of slides or the entire presentation
3. Click OK and wait for the process to complete

I have just copied/pasted according to option A and inserted according
to option B 60 slides of an 82 slide presentation into another 142 slide
presentation without any issue.

Although I don't see the need of reverting to an old LibreOffice version
to do the same thing in a different way, you can find old LibreOffice
releases here:

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/


On 12/04/2018 21:29, anne-ology wrote:
>yes, & thank you for expressing what obviously I was unable to so do.
> 
>There's also a problem with their copy & paste suggestion, since
> that surely requires having more than one copy of LO open at one time,
> which seems impossible since when I click on LO again, the opened one
> appears rather than a new version.
> 
>And when I've gone to the LO archives to attempt to download the
> previous versions, it merely sends me back to the download page to download
> the newest version.
> 
>  PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW to download a previous version, if the latest
> versions will no longer have this option available.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files

2018-04-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 12/04/2018 12:22, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

> I somehow doubt that this will be seen as a suitably satisfactory
> solution for most users...

I think that this specific announcement should be evaluated carefully to
avoid a disruptive impact on the user base (although the number of Base
users is small in comparison with the global number of users, the are
people and organizations which do rely on Base for their data).

So, any "radical" deprecation of features should be evaluated not only
in technical terms, but also in marketing/communication terms. We cannot
get rid of a feature without giving users a reasonable amount of time to
migrate their data (and the fact that they are embedded in the zipped
file is not a solution for most users, who are not even aware that files
are zipped folders which include all document components).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation to another]

2018-04-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 08/04/2018 22:15, Virgil Arrington wrote:

> That may work for inserting only one slide, but what Anne wants is to 
> insert an entire Impress presentation, not just a slide or two.

You can select one or all the slides from a presentation. It is the
feature which was available until LibreOffice 5.2 under Insert > File
which has been moved to the Slide menu since LibreOffice 5.3.

As an alternative you can Select All slides in the Slide Sorter view,
Copy them (Ctrl+C) and Paste them in the other presentation (Ctrl+V) in
the Slide Sorter view. They will be inserted after the selected slide.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Copying slides from one presentation to another]

2018-04-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 08/04/2018 20:59, anne-ology wrote:

> The 'file'option is missing in LO 6.0.2.1 (at least on Windows)

Menu Slide > Insert Slide from File

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Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-24 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote:

> since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp.

Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in
humanities and have never written a single line of code, but I am a very
happy Linux user and will never switch back to macOS or Windows. Windows
XP has been deprecated by Microsoft in 2014, so the operating system is
not maintained and is not secure. You should definitely try something
different.

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[libreoffice-users] I love Free Software Campaign

2018-02-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
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our contacts. I also add the SVG source for those who want to add their
personal touch.

You can download the images from the following link:

https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/KGQToxedxiEpfmT

Apologies for the previous useless message, I completely forgot the fact
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[libreoffice-users] [libo-marketing-priv] I love Free Software Campaign

2018-02-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
As usual, we will support the "I love Free Software" campaign by
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Re: [libreoffice-users] about libreoffice developers support for users

2017-05-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
No, remote support is not available, at least from volunteers. It might
be available for enterprise deployments, based on a contract, but not
for individual users.

On 06/05/2017 18:05, zahra a wrote:
> hi.
> i have a question.
> if someone has a problem which cant resolve it without any help,
> do the libreoffice developers help him-her via remote support?
> the programs like teamviewer i mean.
> or is there any feature for remote support in libreoffice which we install?
> i waite for the response specially from developers and programmers of
> this great program.
> thanks so much for your ansser,
> i pray for you and request divine infinite mercy and blessings for you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] i have questions about licensing in libreoffice.

2017-04-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 19/04/2017 09:59, fudmer rieley wrote:
> The Oracle purchase of Sun allows oracle to claim ownership in
> application software which the whole world contributed to? 
> Is that correct?

No, it is completely wrong.

Sun owned the copyright of the code (as a consequence of StarDivision
acquisition in 1999), and was asking for a contributor agreement (CLA)
to maintain the copyright on the entire source code (including code
contributed by volunteers, as they were signing the CLA).

Because of this situation, Oracle acquired the ownership of the entire
OOo source code with the acquisition of Sun.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice developers please answer my question about security!

2016-10-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 18/10/2016 15:38, nasrin khaksar wrote:

> does it mean that libreoffice which is one branch of openoffice, is
> extremely secure and it does not have any security Vulnerability to
> fix in the every new release version?

LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.org, not a branch, and as such has
independent development and security management.

> all versions are the same in security and its no different which
> version i desire to use. is it true?

Absolutely not. You should use one of the two versions currently
available for download.

> i use and wish to use 4.4.6, is it completely secure like the oldest
> and newer versions?

No, you should use either 5.1.x or 5.2.x. LibreOffice 4.4.6 is over two
years old, and has not been updated security wise for over one year.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] impress; font change

2016-05-24 Thread Italo Vignoli
Change the font in the slide master, and then reapply the slide master
to all slides (of course, this means that the slide master has been used
in the right way).

On 24/05/2016 15:19, message wrote:
> Readers,
> Please, how to perform a font change to a presentation? The function
> 'select all' only seems to work for selection of a text frame, or a
> presentation slide, not the entire document of all presentation slides.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

2016-04-28 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice - plus NeoOffice and probably some other 
office suite - have been forked out of OpenOffice.org at different times. The 
LGPL source code has ended it's life in June 2011, when the move to Apache 
Foundation inspired by IBM has deliberately changed the license from copyleft 
to permissive and replaced all copyleft code with permissive code, with a more 
substancial amount of changes than the LibreOffice fork.

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> Il giorno 29 apr 2016, alle ore 03:30, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> 
> ha scritto:
> 
>> On 04/28/2016 06:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>> I chose LibreOffice over all of the forks out there.
> 
> Ummm...  LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO?

2016-02-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
Outlook is the worst piece of software ever developed by a living organism 
(I would not dare to say human being, as a human being would not be able to 
put together that amount of crap, not to say a developer).


The simple fact that it does not support a single email standard - not even 
those set in the early 70s - is a testament to that.


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Il 27 febbraio 2016 1:02:08 PM Andrea Venturoli <m...@netfence.it> ha scritto:


On 02/26/16 20:29, toki wrote:


Probably the biggest difference between Outlook and Thunderbird, is that
the former will reliably retrieve email, regardless of the number of
accounts, or quantity of email in each account, whereas Thunderbird
chokes up and dies under the same conditions.


Swap "former" and "latter" and I can confirm this on a vast number of
case: TB will play nicely where OL will crumble, crash, lock, lose
messages, etc...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Java broke on LO 5.1 on Macs

2016-02-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/02/16 20:10, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> LibreOffice 5.1.0 doesn't find the installed Java on my Mac (MacBook Pro
> Retina, OS X version 10.11.3). Had to reinstall LibreOffice 5.0.4.

Funny, I have been using LibreOffice 5.1 since Beta 1 on two different
MacBooks without any issue. Only if I use a wizard LibreOffice asks for
Java, otherwise the program runs fine (no Java installed on one Mac). I
will look if anyone has filed a bug.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to import PDF file?

2015-12-23 Thread Italo Vignoli
Open LibreOffice, and from within LibreOffice open the PDF file using
the File > Open menu. The PDF should open with Draw, but if damaged it
will open with Writer as a text file.

On 23/12/15 19:36, Thomas Taylor wrote:
> How should I import the contents of a *.pdf file into LibreOffice?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Win 10

2015-12-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
Sorry, but questions are never silly (although answers might be silly). 
LibreOffice 5.0.x works with Windows 10, with all the known issues of brand new 
Microsoft operating systems (before a service pack). Please remember that 
around 90% of LibreOffice users are Windows users, and deserve the same respect 
of every other user.

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> 
> I wonder, why would you use Libre Office with Windows 10?  If you are so
> keen on Microsoft, I would suggest using Microsoft Office with Windows 10
> (provided you ever managed to make it work), so you will have no need to be
> asking silly questions.
> 
> 
>> On 12 December 2015 at 22:21, John Boyle <jbo...@harbornet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> To Users: I belong to a computer club, and today we had a presentation on
>> WIN 10 and how much of a headache it really is to install, even for
>> professionals. I would like to know what version of LibreOffice has even a
>> chance to work with WIN 10???
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Re: [libreoffice-users] TRANLATION FOR LIBREOFFICE

2015-11-30 Thread Italo Vignoli
Answering in Italian, as I suspect that Giancarlo is Italian.

Se, come sospetto dall'indirizzo email, sei un utente italiano, prova a
scrivere alla mailing list utenti in italiano
(us...@it.libreoffice.org). In ogni caso, i traduttori automatici non
sono mai particolarmente efficaci, se è questo a cui ti riferisci, e non
credo ce ne siano in circolazione per LibreOffice.

On 29/11/2015 23:38, giancarlo19...@alice.it wrote:
> RESPECTABLE COMMUNITY, I AM A NEW USER AND I WANT SIMPLY TO KNOW IF SOMEONE
> KNOWS IF THERE IS A GOD TRANSLATOR THAT CAN BE INSTALLED INSIDE LIBREOFFICE
> USING EXTENSIONS.
>
>  HOPING THAT SOMEONE CAN SOLVE MY PROBLEM, THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, I SALUTE
> YOU.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LEBRE VERSION STILL

2015-11-03 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice does not need a PDF printer, so this is not a bug. You can
produce a better PDF using the integrated feature, which has been
available for ages.

On 03/11/2015 18:26, Vermas Chandigarh wrote:
> Have said this earlier also – the software does not work with nitro pdf 
> writer 8 and beyod. The office software just hangs.
> Sorry but this bug is not taken care of by you guys

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Re: [libreoffice-users] has anyone been keeping a list of migrations and such?

2015-10-24 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 23/10/15 16:29, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

> SO
> has there been a list[s] created for all of these announcement "figures"?
> Would like to have a link to it, if it is available.

Unfortunately not, but it is definitely a task I am adding to my todo list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

2015-10-11 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/10/15 11:44, Alex Thurgood wrote:

> I would suggest putting yourself in an admin's place where they have
> probably invested long hours in developing a turnkey
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice solution for their group of users, then finding
> one day that that longstanding behaviour has changed because someone
> else has not thought through a code change due to the tentacular nature
> of the code base with no one having an overarching knowledge of it all,
> and you will perhaps understand Andreas' frustration (which I happen to
> share and have voiced it on the mailing lists in the past).

During the last four years I have helped to migrate to LibreOffice
several Italian organizations - especially public administrations - for
a total of over 30,000 PCs. Today, I am helping the Italian Defense to
migrate to LibreOffice 150,000 PCs.

I might be incredibly lucky, but I have never experienced significant
stability issues with LibreOffice, since version 3.5. Of course, when I
say "I have never experienced" I mean that none of the organizations I
have helped has experienced significant stability issues. Again, we
might be extremely lucky here in Italy.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

2015-10-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
Please avoid entering in a discussion with a well know enemy of
LibreOffice. Andreas Saeger aka Villeroy has been spreading FUD about
LibreOffice since forever. People happy with a dead and buggy software -
aka Apache OpenOffice - should avoid commenting on LibreOffice mailing
lists.

On 10/10/2015 15:27, Florian Reisinger wrote:
> Would you be so kind as to tell us which aspects got worse?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Richiesta su sw writer.

2015-09-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
La lingua ufficiale di questa lista è l'inglese. Esiste la lista utenti
in italiano, che puoi trovare a questo indirizzo
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Italian),
oppure la comunità italiana degli utenti di LibreOffice su Google+:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112723936192138250992.

Se ho ben capito la tua domanda, non credo sia una funzionalità
disponibile all'interno di LibreOffice (ma ti consiglio di ripetere la
domanda sia sulla lista utenti italiana sia sulla comunità LibreItalia).

On 10/09/2015 12:20, daniele.ghed...@hotmail.it wrote:
>  Buon giorno, uso abitualmente LIbre Office per documenti privati.
>  
> Attualmente utilizzo in modo spannometrico i collegamenti ipertestuali per
> trasferirmi in altri documenti.
> Purtroppo vengono aperti tanti files quanti sono i documenti utilizzati
> tramite i link.
>  
> Chiedo:  E' possibile eseguire questi trasferimenti su altro documento in
> sovrapposizione al primario, 
>  come ad esempio fà Adobe Reader Professional.
>  
> Grazie  aspetto vostre notizie.
>  
> Cordiali saluti
>  
> Daniele Ghedini
>  
> P.s.  è possibile avere documentazione completa su collegamento ipertestuale.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Anyone log into LibreOfficeForum.org?

2015-07-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/07/15 02:20, Martin Lewicki wrote:
 Tried to create an account on this page
 http://en.libreofficeforum.org/user/register

That forum is not managed by the LibreOffice project.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Randomly lost sheet

2015-06-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/06/15 12:47, Andreas Säger wrote:

 Yes, this is exactly what I mean. If a product offers to write some
 foreign file format, it should do it fairly well or not at all. On this
 tiny mailing list there are too many reports about faulty OOXML export.

LibreOffice exports OOXML for interoperability purposes, to serve users
(who are not knowledgeable about file formats).

It does not export OOXML to store data, and warns users about the risks
of using the format for storage purposes.

Unfortunately, although OOXML is a broken file format it is also an ISO
standard, and for enterprise level adoptions you must offer it to be
compliant with migration requisites.

 This is one thing where Apache OpenOffice does it right. That program
 does not export OOXML. It tries to read OOXML while always exporting the
 old but very well supported Microsoft documents which is just fine for
 all users of Microsoft Office.

Legacy Microsoft formats have the same problems of OOXML, and they are
supported exactly in the same way. LibreOffice supports them as well as
OOXML, and users have the option of choosing the one they prefer.

Bringing Apache OpenOffice - a software without developers affected by a
serious security bug (which has not been solved, even if the software is
still distributed, for lack of developers) - as an example of proper
behaviour is just hilarious (because, if the developers were there, the
feature would have been enabled as well, and you should know, because of
some old discussions on the AOO mailing list).

Anyway, if you feel that AOO does it properly, you are free to use it.
Villeroy, you are known because of your activity against LibreOffice on
the AOO forum, but you should avoid spreading FUD on this mailing list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Randomly lost sheet

2015-06-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/06/15 20:54, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

 Just trying to cut down the flame and bring the discussion back to its
 root: I think we are talking about *reading* (not writing) OOXML.

Of course. This was clear for everyone but AOO advocates. OOXML is very
difficult to read properly, because the very same version of MS Office
might save - for instance - a XLSX file in three different flavours,
with different tags for the very same contents.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Randomly lost sheet

2015-06-14 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 14/06/15 10:38, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

 Which version of MS Office was used to generate the files?

 Hard to tell... I'd have to ask my customer and I'm not sure she knows.
 It's even possible in some cases [Libre|Open|Neo]Office was used.
 In any case I believe they've been working for some time with
 LibreOffice 4.3 only, and I'm sure some of the files were last saved by
 LO 4.3 (Mac or Windows).

You should never generate XLSX files with LibreOffice, unless you need
to exchange them with MS Office users. In this case, you must save the
file in ODS format (more stable), and use XLSX only for
interoperability. With MS Office 2013 users, you can use ODS files.

 You
 have a choice between the following formats: ECMA OOXML for MS Office
 2007, Transitional OOXML for MS Office 2010, Transitional OOXML for MS
 Office 2013, and Strict OOXML for MS Office 2010. Each file format has
 peculiarities.

 Is there any way to tell by opening/unzipping/looking at the files?

Of course not, this is part of the lock in strategy applied to pseudo
standard formats. You can possibly understand it from the namespaces
(which are different, but undocumented, for every version).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Randomly lost sheet

2015-06-14 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 14/06/15 19:25, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

 Still, besides format wars, we have a serious bug here.
 If XLSX is supported, it should work; losing data because it doesn't
 work properly is not a good thing :-(

Of course, this should not happen, and developers are working hard at
looking after these problems. Unfortunately, trying to improve support
of OOXML files can create side effects, generated by the complexity of
the file format. Looking at the file would definitely help. Is there any
chance of getting a clean copy of the file?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Randomly lost sheet

2015-06-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 12/06/15 09:51, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

 When she opens some XLSX file (which contains from a few to a lot of
 sheets), sometimes one of the sheet is blank (i.e. all the cells are
 empty as if it was a new sheet).

XLSX files are always tricky, as they change for every version of MS
Office. Which version of MS Office was used to generate the files? You
have a choice between the following formats: ECMA OOXML for MS Office
2007, Transitional OOXML for MS Office 2010, Transitional OOXML for MS
Office 2013, and Strict OOXML for MS Office 2010. Each file format has
peculiarities.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Welcome to users@global.libreoffice.org

2015-05-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/05/15 11:08, jonas.kr...@seznam.cz wrote:
 Hello, please help me recover this file.
 It is a .docx extension file created in libre office

The list does not accept attachments, so you should load the document
online (for instance, using DropBox) to make it available to others.

In any case, NEVER NEVER NEVER use DOCX to save documents but only to
exchange documents with MS Office users, as the format is not native and
is highly unrealiable.

You should save all documents as ODT, and then save them as DOCX before
sending them to MS Office users, and transform them in ODT as soon as
you receive them from MS Office users.

Unfortunately, DOCX does not protect you from losing contents.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] security warning AOO

2015-04-26 Thread Italo Vignoli
LibreOffice 4.3.7, released yesterday, and LibreOffice 4.4.2, available
since early April, include a patch for the issue, and therefore offer a
real solution to the problem (and not a workaround).

On 26/04/15 11:31, rost52 wrote:
 Today, following mail was distributed from annou...@openoffice.apache.org.
 Can LibO users face the same threat?
 
 QUOTE
 
 CVE-2015-1774
 
 OpenOffice HWP Filter Remote Code Execution and Denial of Service
 Vulnerability
 
 A vulnerability in OpenOffice's HWP filter allows attackers to cause a
 denial of service (memory corruption and application crash) or possibly
 execution of arbitrary code by preparing specially crafted documents in
 the HWP document format.
 
 Severity: Important
 
 Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation
 
 Versions Affected:
 
 All Apache OpenOffice versions 4.1.1 and older are affected.
 
 Mitigation:
 
 Apache OpenOffice users are advised to remove the problematic library in
 the program folder of their OpenOffice installation. On Windows it is
 named hwp.dll, on Mac it is named libhwp.dylib and on Linux it is
 named libhwp.so. Alternatively the library can be renamed to anything
 else e.g. hwp_renamed.dll.
 This mitigation will drop AOO's support for documents created in Hangul
 Word Processor versions from 1997 or older. Users of such documents are
 advised to convert their documents to other document formats such as
 OpenDocument before doing so.
 
 Apache OpenOffice aims to fix the vulnerability in version 4.1.2.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/04/15 20:01, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 But, I did poke Italo in his LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity task on the
 LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

I have just looked at Redmine, and I will reply ASAP. I do not have a
quick answer to the question, so I am trying to elaborate a bit before
providing my opinion.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't open .xls files in LibreOffice 4.4 calc

2015-03-03 Thread Italo Vignoli
The datasheet contains open links to other datasheets which are hosted
somewhere in Australia, and is trying to update the numbers when it
opens. LibreOffice hangs during this operation.

Unfortunately, I do not have a workaround for this problem, but maybe
someone other has some ideas.

On 03/03/15 02:16, infinityplusb wrote:
 Hi allI'm trying to open an .xls file (actually a number of xls files) I
 downloaded from the Australia Statistics agency website and want to check if
 other people can open it before I raise it as an issue with ... someone.The
 file is attached  3303_1_underlying_causes_of_death_(australia).xls
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4142025/3303_1_underlying_causes_of_death_%28australia%29.xls
  
 The versions I'm using are:LibreOffice Version: 4.4.0.3Build ID:
 de093506bcdc5fafd9023ee680b8c60e3e0645dI'm using Ubuntu 14.10Can someone try
 and open up the file attached in LibreOffice please?Also if someone could
 let me know what I need to do to trouble shoot that would be great.PS I can
 open some .xls files, just not this (or a few others) so it might be
 something *in* the file. A workaround rather than solution would also
 suffice for my purposes.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Question about font replacement/substitution in Writer 4.3.3

2015-02-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 16/02/2015 13:22, Maurice wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:09:59 -0800, Tom Williams wrote:

  I don't have Calibri installed,
 If you have Windows on the same PC you can get Linux to clone it to 
 Linux.

 If not, try Googling on: calibri download linux

Please do mind that Calibri is a Microsoft proprietary font strictly
connected to a Windows/MS Office license, which cannot be used if you do
not have such a license. This is clearly stated in the Windows/MS Office
EULA. LibreOffice offers a Calibri replacement, Carlito, which has a
free font license and can therefore be downloaded and installed on every
operating system without infringing the license.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LinuxQuestions.org's Office Suite of the Year: LibreOffice!

2015-02-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/02/15 12:25, Paul wrote:
 Out of interest Italo, why would you say the Wine option is not
 comparable to a native binary?

Because it allows to run proprietary software for a proprietary
operating system, which is something I would definitely avoid in a Linux
environment.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LinuxQuestions.org's Office Suite of the Year: LibreOffice!

2015-02-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/02/15 10:34, Tom Davies wrote:

 Perhaps.  It might be good to suggest it to the organisers for next
 year's poll.  Certainly Skype was included, so why not?  Unlike with
 Skype i suspect that the majority vote would still go to LibreOffice
 anyway.  Our community is stronger and pulls together better.

Skype is available for Linux, Microsoft Office is not (and I would not
consider the Wine option as comparable to a native Linux version).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LinuxQuestions.org's Office Suite of the Year: LibreOffice!

2015-02-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/02/15 06:04, Urmas wrote:

 Any poll without Microsoft Office option is invalid.

Is Microsoft Office available for Linux? I do not think so.

The poll is run by LinuxQuestions, so Microsoft Office advocates can
just avoid to have a look and rest in peace.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] rtf files

2014-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 20/11/2014 12:27, James Wilde wrote:

 Can we agree that a) rtf is not an ISO standard and has never been; that b) 
 most programs with a proprietary text format could once save as rtf and some 
 still do, but now rarely as the only alternative and that c) it's not worth 
 fighting any more over what rtf is and is not.  We'll save a lot of bandwidth 
 that way, and maybe save the Document Foundation from having to buy a new 
 Emc2 cabinet to handle all the traffic.

+1000

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: rtf files

2014-11-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 19/11/14 12:34, Andreas Säger wrote:

 On a Windows box, MS WordPad is the one and only application I would
 try. On my Windows boxes we have a business application which generates
 RTF and opens its own RTF for editing, but it is never confronted with
 any RTF from other applications.

RTF is not standard, and is not documented. As such, it is not a format
which can be adopted for interoperability. It was developed some years
before the development of the ODF standard, which should replace RTF and
every other document format to achieve interoperability.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice forks

2014-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/10/14 21:23, Bruce Byfield wrote:

 However, joking aside, I'm not going to revise history. LO began as a fork 
 and 
 a fork it remains.

All projects using OOo code are forks under the technical point of view,
as they have cloned the repository and applied significant changes to
the code.

This is independent from the name of the project.

So, as of today, there are three active forks of OOo: LibreOffice,
Apache OpenOffice and NeoOffice.

IMHO, AndrOpenOffice is a fork of Apache OpenOffice, but here I might be
wrong as I have not looked at the code.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice forks

2014-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/10/14 22:26, Stefan Weigel wrote:

 All projects using OOo code are forks under the technical point
 of view, as they have cloned the repository and applied
 significant changes to the code.

 Sure, the technical point of view. :-) But who cares about technics? ;-)

Of course, I know the story (I am one of the founders). So, I totally
share your emotional point of view.

OTOH, Bruce Byfield is a journalist, and we owe journalists factual
informations and not emotional ones.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice forks

2014-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 16/10/14 00:12, Bruce Byfield wrote:

 This is on my own time, so nobody needs to worry about being quoted.

Maybe I am biased because of my role within the project, but I think
that transparency is always the best strategy. So, keeping facts
separate from emotions.

 Anyway, my memory of OpenOffice.org is that it was a rather unhappy project, 
 repressed by Sun. LibreOffice seems to have much better morale and 
 productivity.

Companies do not like communities, although they pretend to be nice to
communities by appointing a community manager.

Companies are used to hire and fire, and are less used to motivate (and
volunteers are attracted by motivation).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-09-30 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 30/09/14 16:00, Sophie wrote:

 That is what is doing the Windows installer. On Linux, there is only one
 command line and a file to edit, so really I don't see how it's
 complicated. I don't know about Mac however.

On a Mac, you can install as many instances of LibreOffice as you want,
provided that each one has a different name, but it is way better to
have only one of them open (there might be configuration conflicts, as
they might be accessing the same configuration file).

Of course, by using the Terminal you can tweak configurations, but a
typical Mac user is not supposed to use the Terminal.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/08/14 03:01, Owen Genat wrote:

 Please refer my clarification to Italo's information up-thread. The
 Transitional and Strict formats are both defined in ISO/IEC 29500.

In ISO/IEC 29500 there is only one transitional definition, while
Microsoft has produced three different transitional versions (two
without definition, i.e. Transitional 2010 and Transitional 2013) within
the same pseudo-standard. Transitional, by the way, is not defined as a
standard format (because it is incompatible with the Gregorian Calendar,
and because it includes proprietary blobs not released within the
covenant not to sue).

OOXML Strict is a standard, but it is supported properly only by
LibreOffice (which means that the reference implementation is not
available, and in any case the free reference implementation is missing).

So, no free reference implementation, no standard (unless you see
lock-in as a feature of a standard document format).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 07/08/14 09:07, Tom Davies wrote:

 Ubuntu makes it very clear that their LTS is more stable and that their
 other branch is more exciting.

Unfortunately, this is not always true. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS was based on a
buggy Unity, and although it was supported for a longer term than 12.10
(just to make an example) it was far less stable (because of the Unity
bugs solved in the meantime).

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will probably be a different story, because Unity is
more stable. LTS means Long Term Support, and this sometimes translates
into a mess if the user thinks that LTS = more stable. In Italy, we had
complaints about LibreOffice from people trying to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
for enterprise deployments, which have been solved by using a non LTS
version of Ubuntu.

Again, the last version is always the best one for most users.
Suggesting the older version for enterprise deployments is just showing
an additional level of user care by offering an alternative to people
with a different update cycle.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 08/08/14 11:15, Pikov Andropov wrote:

 I didn't know that. So if I have MSO 2007 and get a DOCX file from
 someone with MSO 10 or 13, can I expect to have trouble opening it?

Unfortunately, yes, but in a totally unpredictable way.

Sorry for the technical details, but they are necessary to understand
the situation.

Microsoft introduced OOXML (DOCX, XLSX and PPTX) in 2007, in a hurry,
because the State of Massachusetts opted for ODF (the file format of
LibreOffice).

The State IT Manager, responsible of the decision, was fired based on
false allegations published by the Boston Globe, and provided by...

The OOXML document format was not ready to become a standard, and the
fast track process (totally inadequate) changed it in a way to get to
something resembling a standard (OOXML Strict).

MS Office 2007 adopts OOXML 2007 Transitional, MS Office 2010 adopts
OOXML 2010 Transitional (different from 2007), MS Office 2013 adopts
OOXML 2013 Transitional (different from 2007 and 2010).

Neither of these formats is a standard.

OOXML Strict is supported only by MS Office 2013, while all other MS
Office incarnations will not open it (and will tell the user that the
file is corrupted).

MS Office 2013 handles OOXML Strict with a number of horrible bugs. I
have tested the Excel bugs, which make Excel unusable (and can only be
solved by rewriting the application).

In addition, if you open an OOXML Transitional and save it as OOXML
Strict the contents will be changed arbitrarily (and this has just been
confirmed by Microsoft, telling the user that is his fault and not the
software, which has been designed to work this way).

Of course, the opposite is true, so any OOXML Strict will be screwed if
saved as OOXML Transitional.

Sorry for the boring technical details, but this is the situation.

Best regards, Italo

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Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-07 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 07/08/14 14:14, Paul wrote:

 The big debate recently has been over exactly this issue. A lot of
 people on this list (myself included) have expressed the opinion that it
 is best in this sort of circumstance to go for Still, but Charles is
 among those that feel that it is best to go for Fresh.

I have read most of the thread (I am on holiday in the US, and I do not
read all emails I receive), so I might have missed something important.

I think that either opinion is right, because it is based on each one
needs and experiences. I am a user, without major technical skills, but
I have always used the latest version without real problems (some crash
but no more and no less than with other software, including proprietary
ones).

I have never lost any information, and although I am a heavy Impress
user I have never lost any image in any file (even while switching from
MacOS X to Linux and vice versa). I mention this, because it is a real
problem for many users.

This represents my experience, and is worth as much as my experience can
be considered a good one or a bad one. I think that free software should
teach users to be more self conscious about their skills, and decide
which is the best version for their needs.

I second Charles' opinion about a larger number of users choosing the
latest release (fresh) over the older one (still). Of course, these are
not scientific statistics, but individual perceptions. In some cases I
have suggested the older release, and I am definitely suggesting the
older release to enterprises.

 Ultimately it is a choice between Fresh, which has newer features but
 also a higher chance of bugs, and Still, which has fewer features but
 likely also fewer bugs.

In some cases you need a feature and do not stumble into a bug because
of your workflow, and Fresh is the ideal choice. In some cases, you do
stumble into a bug because of your workflow and Still is the right choice.

I think that it is a matter of explaining to new users that they have a
choice between two options (which is something they never had with any
other software). Some users will understand, some others will not.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Is version 4.1.6.2 insecure?

2014-07-12 Thread Italo Vignoli
 On 07/12/2014 05:55 AM, . wrote:

 LibreOffice 4.1.6.2 is detected as insecure by Secunia PSI. Advisory
 SA57383 (Macro Vulnerability). Would you be so kind as to let me know why
 this stable version is insecure, but the fresh version 4.2.5 is secure?
 Thank you for your timely effort.

Because the patch that solves the vulnerability has been introduced in
LibreOffice 4.2.5, which is the new stable version (although, I agree,
this is not yet reflected in the webpage).

LibreOffice 4.3.0 will be announced on July 28, and will be the new fresh.

LibreOffice 4.1.x has reached the end of life, as you can check from the
release plan: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#4.1_release.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Option to output the .ods underlying XML files auto formatted?

2014-05-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 18/05/14 11:30, Urmas wrote:

 The XML files by LO are consisting of one long line deliberately to
 hamper interoperation with a certain well-known competitor products. As
 a marketing decision, it is unlikely to change.

This has definitely not been a marketing decision. Marketing would have
decided exactly the opposite, i.e. the highest interoperability level
with competition.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 26/04/14 17:12, Urmas wrote:

 StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you
 are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.

Insulting other mailing list subscribers is absolutely unacceptable, not
only because it is against the Netiquette but also because it is against
the principles of our community.

If you do not share these principles (and your messages show that you do
not share them) you should be wise enough to leave the mailing list and
the community on you own.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-22 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 22/04/2014 20:06, Urmas wrote:

 For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
 Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.

Microsoft has slightly changed the file format for each new release,
although it has never changed the extension. Are you paid by Microsoft?
Only someone paid by Microsoft could say such an incredible lie. This is
not the first time that you say something which is clearly biased in the
typical Microsoft way (i.e. total FUD). I do not think that you are
adding any value here, and IMHO you should be banned from the community
as you are not welcome at all.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,

2014-04-06 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/04/14 23:04, Urmas wrote:

 You are trying to defend a text processor which stores text in a
 proprietary encoding in the obscured format. Comparing to this, MS Word
 which used easy and open file format was a clear winner.

Microsoft has never used an open file format for ANY software. Not even
the Microsoft's supposedly ISO document standard format is really open
because it embeds proprietary binary blobs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

2014-04-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 02/04/14 05:20, Pedro wrote:

 Have you tested it? Are your findings different from their claims?

It is clearly stated in the relevant iTunes pages.

Requirements: a qualifying Office 365 subscription is required to edit
and create Word documents. If you do not have a subscription, you can
buy Office 365 Home withing Word for Ipad app.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

2014-04-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 01/04/14 18:54, Pedro wrote:

 Returning to MSO Mobile, it's only available for iPad and Android
 smartphones, but not for Android tablets... Maybe they will try to sell
 that? Or maybe they don't want Android to compete with Windows 8 Tablets
 since there are already more Android devices in the world than Windows
 PCs...

MSO Mobile is only a viewer, as to create a document you need an Office
365 license (which costs 99 euro/dollars per year).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 21/03/14 10:40, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 3/20/2014 5:28 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, new users to LO, be_very_  _very_  aware: LO documents by default
 are not standards compliant, which minimises the possibility that such
 documents created by LO in default mode will be accessible by other
 (including future LO?) odf-compliant products.
 And also please STOP WITH THE FUD.

e-letter, can you please stop repeating wrong statements on this mailing
list. As I said before, not even Microsoft is telling that LibreOffice
documents are non standard.

So, if you are paid by MS, please stop as you are going beyond your
assignment, while if you are not paid please stop as you are doing a bad
job.

LibreOffice documents will be ALWAYS accessible by any other software
supporting ODF, and vice versa. The ODF standard has been conceived in
such a way that backward and forward compatibility is assured.

The same is not true for OOXML.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/03/14 11:53, e-letter wrote:

 Thanks for this information. The difference between extended and
 strict allows for confusion to occur. In the option
 load/save,general, there is no option strict standard, only 10/11,
 12, 12extended.

ODF 1.2 is the standard, and I have used strict to underline the
difference. There is only one version of the ODF standard, so we do not
need to use strict.

 How can font-embed occur if affected by licence restrictions on a font
 (e.g. font x is licenced to be used only on gpl systems)?

LibreOffice is only using fonts with a free license (mostly SIL) which
can be distributed freely to any kind of operating system. There is not
a single font that can be used only with GPL licensed operating systems
or applications.

 So how are non-standard elements treated when ignored?
 It seems safer to select either odf 10/11 or 12strict. Is there a
 definitive list of these LO 12extended features so that users can
 decide if it beneficial to use them, or revert to standard odf?

Nothing happens when XML tags are ignored, to systems which are not
supporting the ODF 1.2 Extended document format. This is the reason why
we can suggest to use ODF 1.2 Extended as the preferred format, because
backward compatibility is maintained.

Somewhere in the wiki there is a list of the extended features, but
please remember that we are speaking of a document format and not of
software features. So, most of the new LibreOffice features do not
impact the document format.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-17 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 17/03/14 11:41, e-letter wrote:

 It's a worry that some users prefer new features over standards
 compliance and quality control.

Please do not see new software features as changes to the document
format. Over 99% of new features do not have any impact on the document
format, which is the same as before. And there might be a change in the
document format which is not reflected in any software feature.

So, new software features and standard compliance are different
problems/issues. When you talk about standards document formats you
never consider software features, because the two are not related. You
should really have a look at some of the OASIS ODF TC meeting minutes to
understand what the standard is about.

 Agree, it means that if a user is concerned about compatibility, they
 must understand to disable the default settings in LO.

No, if a user is concerned about interoperability - as I am - he should
use the ODF 1.2 Extended document format, because this is the format
with the best standard compatibility.

 How does OO compare; are documents created to the odf standard by default?

Same as LibreOffice. Actually, the extended format strategy was
started by OOo when OOo 2.0 was launched back in 2005, and has been
maintained so far. Actually, not even Microsoft was able to complain
with this strategy, and has never dared to say that the ODF Extended
document format was not standard.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 16/03/14 09:01, Pedro wrote:

 This just proves my point (going back to the comment by nabbler) that it if
 the bureaucracy takes so long, you can't really blame MS (or any other
 vendor) for not being 100% compatible. 

No. Compatibility is measured against the standard (ISO ODF 1.0 / OASIS
ODF 1.2). and not with the ODF 1.2 Extended provided by LibreOffice.

Microsoft ODF implementation in MS Office 2013 is a very good one, and
no one is blaming Microsoft for this.

On the contrary, Microsoft can be blamed for their intentional ODF 1.1
- which has never been considered a standard, not even at OASIS -
implementation in Microsoft Office 2010, because this was done to kill
interoperability with OOo.

In addition, Microsoft is providing a different implementation of their
non standard OOXML document format for every Microsoft Office release,
and this is also intentional to kill imteroperability.

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[libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
ODF as implemented by OpenOffice and then LibreOffice has always been
the extended version, and not the strict standard version, although
it has always been possible to choose the latter. ODF become a standard
in 2006, based on OOo 2.0 (2005) file format, but OOo was already
shipping some additional features which have been integrated in ODF 1.2
(consolidated in 2008, and standardized in 2011).

Today, LibreOffice integrates some additional features in ODF 1.2, which
will hopefully become part of ODF 1.3 (like font embedding). In general,
saving as ODF 1.2 Extended does not create problem to users of other ODF
compatible software, as the format is backward compatible (so font
embedding will not create problems, but will not be recognized by other
software).

This is the reason why LibreOffice suggests ODF 1.2 Extended, and not
the ODF 1.2 strict version. Being the format XML based, the tags will
not be recognized if they belong to ODF 1.2, but this will not create
problems to the document.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/03/14 11:25, Pedro wrote:

 If OASIS (the organization that defines the ODF standard) is not able to
 keep pace and improve on the document's definition to make it a valid open
 document standard, then the de facto standard will ALWAYS be the MS file
 formats...

ODF has a clear path forward, and is actively maintained by OASIS. There
is an ODF 1.0 which is an ISO standard, and an ODF 1.2 which is in the
process of becoming an ISO standard (backward compatible with ODF 1.0).
Standard definitions, by their own nature, are moving slowly. This is
the reason why LibreOffice is compatible with both ODF 1.0 and ODF 1.2.

Microsoft OOXML, on the other hand, has never been implemented according
to the standard ISO definition, and is not even actively maintained by
ECMA (because ECMA is not focused on document standards as much as OASIS
is). Unfortunately, in the market there are more OOXML documents than
ODF documents, but this does not make OOXML format a standard.

LibreOffice makes every possible effort to be interoperable with all
Microsoft Office proprietary document formats, because this is what
users are asking (so, the answer to the original question is YES).

On the other hand, Microsoft makes every possible effort to make OOXML
not interoperable, which means that maintaining compatibility is like
trying to shoot a pheasant while driving a motorbike on a rough path
with the eyes shut.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 15/03/14 16:58, Jim Seymour wrote:

 To be clear: I have no problem with LO implementing non-standard
 behaviour, but that behaviour *must* be optional, with the switches
 that enable it clearly noted as such.

You can select the default ODF document format from the Options menu.
You can choose between ODF 1.0/1.1, ODF 1.2 (this is the standard ODF
1.2 implementation), ODF 1.2 Extended Compatibility Mode, and ODF 1.2
Extended with LibreOffice Additional Format Related Features.

LibreOffice is the reference ODF implementation, and as such is fully
supporting the document standard, and provides compatibility options.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 28/02/14 21:04, Carlo Gonzato wrote:

 non c'è nessuno che capisca e scriva in italiano?

Certo, sulla mailing list utenti in lingua italiana:
us...@it.libreoffice.org.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] TRANSLATION AND PROOFREADING SERVICES

2014-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 01/03/14 11:31, INTERLANG wrote:

 I look forward to working with you.

You have probably overlooked the fact that all our localizations are
done by volunteers.

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