Re: CORRECTION, post upgrade glitch is still serious

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Craig,

Am 24.06.22 um 01:12 schrieb Craig Russell:
> Hi Mattias,
>
>> On Jun 23, 2022, at 04:03, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, that is an old bug becoming more visible on macOS because some
>> extensions were updated recently.
>>
>> Just as a quick "work around": Please disable the option for "Online
>> Update" in your AOO preferences.
> Just to clarify: the Online Update has a section to (O) check for updates and 
> a different section to (O) automatically download updates.
>
> I assume you are advising users to disable automatic downloads but keep check 
> for updates?

No, "Check for updates automatically" should be disabled to prevent
problems on macOS.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards
> Craig
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>> Am 23.06.22 um 12:09 schrieb PCS:
>>> CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside 
>>> in the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new 
>>> documents. It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
>>> occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the 
>>> Mac.
>>>
>>> LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are 
>>> better implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier 
>>> to use (for what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of 
>>> annoying issues (the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you 
>>> happen to click on its opening button when scrolling up or down or when 
>>> resizing a window: the activator should be out of the way, in the top menu 
>>> panel, or at least have an option to move it out of the way, maybe some 
>>> people actually like the Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is 
>>> a plus also, obviously we all want to be up to date with security but other 
>>> than that I see no need for frequent updates of a bread-and-butter 
>>> application that does the job you need it to do, unless there is a genuine 
>>> improvement, like stopping the RH panel from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if 
>>> it needs to be updated for compatibility with an OS update.
>>>
>>> So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have 
>>> LO installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be 
>>> successfully merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged 
>>> app to work the way they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound 
>>> down and shuttered”.
>>>
>>> All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, 
>>> problem solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful 
>>> alternative. Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the 
>>> app he prefers? That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that 
>>> he knows what is best for me better than I do. He is probably like my 
>>> father, who used to say, when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a 
>>> Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, 
>>> dodge a Dodge” when he bought a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an 
>>> expert that whatever I buy / have / use is automatically what everyone else 
>>> should buy / have / use. Flaviu should just use the app he/she prefers and 
>>> let others continue to have access to the one they prefer, and I am 
>>> surprised that nobody else has told him/her that already.
>>>
>>> There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make 
>>> the case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is 
>>> opened now, the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when 
>>> you click on it it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an 
>>> initially transparent Extension Manager window offering a Spelling 
>>> dictionary when you clicked it visible, but clicking on it froze the 
>>> application and it had to be Force Quit and reopened. The app's data 
>>> recovery feature minimised data loss, but it was still a nuisance. I have 
>>> been ignoring the green arrow to circumvent the problem, but have just 
>>> tried it again (with a new document, so as not to risk compromising a real 
>>> one), and now the problem seems to be half fixed, clicking on the green 
>>> arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, not even offer a genuine 
>>> extension update, so at least the app no longer freezes. But this is a good 
>>> example of why I am normally a late updater, because new updates of the OS 
>>> or an app often have glitches in them that I would much rather have 
>>> discovered by other people than discover myself, hence my dislike of LO’s 
>>> much more frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with them, but the more 
>>> frequent they are the greater is the risk, so I prefer less frequent and 
>>> better tested updates, and the glitch in recent OO update is a significant 
>>> disappointment.
>>>
>>> 

Re: CORRECTION, post upgrade glitch is still serious

[Craig Russell]

Hi Mattias,

> On Jun 23, 2022, at 04:03, Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, that is an old bug becoming more visible on macOS because some
> extensions were updated recently.
> 
> Just as a quick "work around": Please disable the option for "Online
> Update" in your AOO preferences.

Just to clarify: the Online Update has a section to (O) check for updates and a 
different section to (O) automatically download updates.

I assume you are advising users to disable automatic downloads but keep check 
for updates?

Regards
Craig
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
> Am 23.06.22 um 12:09 schrieb PCS:
>> CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside 
>> in the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new 
>> documents. It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
>> occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are 
>> better implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier to 
>> use (for what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of 
>> annoying issues (the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you 
>> happen to click on its opening button when scrolling up or down or when 
>> resizing a window: the activator should be out of the way, in the top menu 
>> panel, or at least have an option to move it out of the way, maybe some 
>> people actually like the Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is 
>> a plus also, obviously we all want to be up to date with security but other 
>> than that I see no need for frequent updates of a bread-and-butter 
>> application that does the job you need it to do, unless there is a genuine 
>> improvement, like stopping the RH panel from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if 
>> it needs to be updated for compatibility with an OS update.
>> 
>> So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have LO 
>> installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be successfully 
>> merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged app to work the 
>> way they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound down and shuttered”.
>> 
>> All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, 
>> problem solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful 
>> alternative. Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the 
>> app he prefers? That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that 
>> he knows what is best for me better than I do. He is probably like my 
>> father, who used to say, when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a 
>> Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, dodge 
>> a Dodge” when he bought a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an expert 
>> that whatever I buy / have / use is automatically what everyone else should 
>> buy / have / use. Flaviu should just use the app he/she prefers and let 
>> others continue to have access to the one they prefer, and I am surprised 
>> that nobody else has told him/her that already.
>> 
>> There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make 
>> the case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is opened 
>> now, the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when you click 
>> on it it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an initially 
>> transparent Extension Manager window offering a Spelling dictionary when you 
>> clicked it visible, but clicking on it froze the application and it had to 
>> be Force Quit and reopened. The app's data recovery feature minimised data 
>> loss, but it was still a nuisance. I have been ignoring the green arrow to 
>> circumvent the problem, but have just tried it again (with a new document, 
>> so as not to risk compromising a real one), and now the problem seems to be 
>> half fixed, clicking on the green arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do 
>> anything, not even offer a genuine extension update, so at least the app no 
>> longer freezes. But this is a good example of why I am normally a late 
>> updater, because new updates of the OS or an app often have glitches in them 
>> that I would much rather have discovered by other people than discover 
>> myself, hence my dislike of LO’s much more frequent updates, I haven’t had 
>> problems with them, but the more frequent they are the greater is the risk, 
>> so I prefer less frequent and better tested updates, and the glitch in 
>> recent OO update is a significant disappointment.
>> 
>> PCS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well said FC
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Snapafun - Frank
>>> Rock'n'Rolling Forever
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia,  wrote:
>>> 
 On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  

Re: CORRECTION, post upgrade glitch is still serious

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Yes, that is an old bug becoming more visible on macOS because some
extensions were updated recently.

Just as a quick "work around": Please disable the option for "Online
Update" in your AOO preferences.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 23.06.22 um 12:09 schrieb PCS:
> CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside 
> in the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new 
> documents. It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.
>
> 
>
>
> I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
> occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the 
> Mac.
>
> LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are 
> better implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier to 
> use (for what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of annoying 
> issues (the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you happen to 
> click on its opening button when scrolling up or down or when resizing a 
> window: the activator should be out of the way, in the top menu panel, or at 
> least have an option to move it out of the way, maybe some people actually 
> like the Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is a plus also, 
> obviously we all want to be up to date with security but other than that I 
> see no need for frequent updates of a bread-and-butter application that does 
> the job you need it to do, unless there is a genuine improvement, like 
> stopping the RH panel from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if it needs to be 
> updated for compatibility with an OS update.
>
> So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have LO 
> installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be successfully 
> merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged app to work the 
> way they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound down and shuttered”.
>
> All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, 
> problem solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful 
> alternative. Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the 
> app he prefers? That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that 
> he knows what is best for me better than I do. He is probably like my father, 
> who used to say, when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a Dodge, 
> dodge a Ford”, then changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, dodge a 
> Dodge” when he bought a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an expert that 
> whatever I buy / have / use is automatically what everyone else should buy / 
> have / use. Flaviu should just use the app he/she prefers and let others 
> continue to have access to the one they prefer, and I am surprised that 
> nobody else has told him/her that already.
>
> There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make 
> the case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is opened 
> now, the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when you click 
> on it it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an initially 
> transparent Extension Manager window offering a Spelling dictionary when you 
> clicked it visible, but clicking on it froze the application and it had to be 
> Force Quit and reopened. The app's data recovery feature minimised data loss, 
> but it was still a nuisance. I have been ignoring the green arrow to 
> circumvent the problem, but have just tried it again (with a new document, so 
> as not to risk compromising a real one), and now the problem seems to be half 
> fixed, clicking on the green arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, 
> not even offer a genuine extension update, so at least the app no longer 
> freezes. But this is a good example of why I am normally a late updater, 
> because new updates of the OS or an app often have glitches in them that I 
> would much rather have discovered by other people than discover myself, hence 
> my dislike of LO’s much more frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with 
> them, but the more frequent they are the greater is the risk, so I prefer 
> less frequent and better tested updates, and the glitch in recent OO update 
> is a significant disappointment.
>
> PCS
>
>
>
>> On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac  wrote:
>>
>> Well said FC
>>
>> Regards
>> Snapafun - Frank
>> Rock'n'Rolling Forever
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia,  wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  wrote:
 Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?

 The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
 still actively being developed
>>> It is.
>>>
 when those users would be much better
 served migrating to LibreOffice.
>>> Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.
>>>
 I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
 various 

Re: CORRECTION, post upgrade glitch is still serious

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 23.06.22 um 12:09 schrieb PCS:

CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside in 
the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new documents. 
It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.


Sadly the extension code has a unresolved bug :(

It is a release blocker for 4.2.0. I hope we get to the bug someday.






I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the Mac.

LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are better 
implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier to use (for 
what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of annoying issues 
(the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you happen to click on 
its opening button when scrolling up or down or when resizing a window: the 
activator should be out of the way, in the top menu panel, or at least have an 
option to move it out of the way, maybe some people actually like the 
Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is a plus also, obviously we 
all want to be up to date with security but other than that I see no need for 
frequent updates of a bread-and-butter application that does the job you need 
it to do, unless there is a genuine improvement, like stopping the RH panel 
from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if it needs to be updated for compatibility 
with an OS update.

So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have LO 
installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be successfully 
merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged app to work the way 
they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound down and shuttered”.

All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, problem 
solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful alternative. Who is 
he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the app he prefers? That seems 
pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that he knows what is best for me better 
than I do. He is probably like my father, who used to say, when he owned a 1928 
Dodge, “If you can’t afford a Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then changed it to, “If you 
can’t afford a Ford, dodge a Dodge” when he bought a 1953 Ford Customline, i.e. 
"I am such an expert that whatever I buy / have / use is automatically what 
everyone else should buy / have / use. Flaviu should just use the app he/she prefers 
and let others continue to have access to the one they prefer, and I am surprised 
that nobody else has told him/her that already.

There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make the 
case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is opened now, 
the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when you click on it 
it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an initially transparent 
Extension Manager window offering a Spelling dictionary when you clicked it 
visible, but clicking on it froze the application and it had to be Force Quit 
and reopened. The app's data recovery feature minimised data loss, but it was 
still a nuisance. I have been ignoring the green arrow to circumvent the 
problem, but have just tried it again (with a new document, so as not to risk 
compromising a real one), and now the problem seems to be half fixed, clicking 
on the green arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, not even offer a 
genuine extension update, so at least the app no longer freezes. But this is a 
good example of why I am normally a late updater, because new updates of the OS 
or an app often have glitches in them that I would much rather have discovered 
by other people than discover myself, hence my dislike of LO’s much more 
frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with them, but the more frequent they 
are the greater is the risk, so I prefer less frequent and better tested 
updates, and the glitch in recent OO update is a significant disappointment.

PCS




On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac  wrote:

Well said FC

Regards
Snapafun - Frank
Rock'n'Rolling Forever

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia,  wrote:


On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  wrote:

Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?

The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
still actively being developed

It is.


when those users would be much better
served migrating to LibreOffice.

Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.


I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
various open source communities.

Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
make the cows train engineers.


At the very least, a prominent notice that users should use
LibreOffice on the main OpenOffice site would be nice.

Please, go away,

FC

CORRECTION, post upgrade glitch is still serious

[PCS]

CORRECTION, the Extension Update glitch froze a spreadsheet I had put aside in 
the Dock and forgotten was open when I tested with a couple of new documents. 
It was successfully recovered but it is still a serious glitch.




I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the Mac.

LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are better 
implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier to use (for 
what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of annoying issues 
(the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you happen to click on 
its opening button when scrolling up or down or when resizing a window: the 
activator should be out of the way, in the top menu panel, or at least have an 
option to move it out of the way, maybe some people actually like the 
Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is a plus also, obviously we 
all want to be up to date with security but other than that I see no need for 
frequent updates of a bread-and-butter application that does the job you need 
it to do, unless there is a genuine improvement, like stopping the RH panel 
from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if it needs to be updated for compatibility 
with an OS update.

So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have LO 
installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be successfully 
merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged app to work the way 
they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound down and shuttered”.

All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, problem 
solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful alternative. 
Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the app he prefers? 
That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that he knows what is 
best for me better than I do. He is probably like my father, who used to say, 
when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then 
changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, dodge a Dodge” when he bought a 
1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an expert that whatever I buy / have / 
use is automatically what everyone else should buy / have / use. Flaviu should 
just use the app he/she prefers and let others continue to have access to the 
one they prefer, and I am surprised that nobody else has told him/her that 
already.

There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make the 
case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is opened now, 
the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when you click on it 
it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an initially transparent 
Extension Manager window offering a Spelling dictionary when you clicked it 
visible, but clicking on it froze the application and it had to be Force Quit 
and reopened. The app's data recovery feature minimised data loss, but it was 
still a nuisance. I have been ignoring the green arrow to circumvent the 
problem, but have just tried it again (with a new document, so as not to risk 
compromising a real one), and now the problem seems to be half fixed, clicking 
on the green arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, not even offer a 
genuine extension update, so at least the app no longer freezes. But this is a 
good example of why I am normally a late updater, because new updates of the OS 
or an app often have glitches in them that I would much rather have discovered 
by other people than discover myself, hence my dislike of LO’s much more 
frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with them, but the more frequent they 
are the greater is the risk, so I prefer less frequent and better tested 
updates, and the glitch in recent OO update is a significant disappointment.

PCS



> On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac  wrote:
> 
> Well said FC
> 
> Regards
> Snapafun - Frank
> Rock'n'Rolling Forever
> 
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia,  wrote:
> 
>> On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  wrote:
>>> Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?
>>> 
>>> The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
>>> still actively being developed
>> 
>> It is.
>> 
>>> when those users would be much better
>>> served migrating to LibreOffice.
>> 
>> Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.
>> 
>>> I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
>>> various open source communities.
>> 
>> Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
>> make the cows train engineers.
>> 
>>> At the very least, a prominent notice that users should use
>>> LibreOffice on the main OpenOffice site would be nice.
>> 
>> Please, go away,
>> 
>> FC
>> 
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: 

Re: Winding OpenOffice down + post upgrade glitch

[PCS]

I have used LibreOffice on Linux fairly often over the past 12 years and 
occasionally on the Mac (my main computer), but I prefer OpenOffice on the Mac.

LO seems to be more fully featured than OO and some of its features are better 
implemented than the same ones in OO, but overall I find OO easier to use (for 
what I use it for, others may disagree) despite a couple of annoying issues 
(the worst is the RH side panel popping out unwanted if you happen to click on 
its opening button when scrolling up or down or when resizing a window: the 
activator should be out of the way, in the top menu panel, or at least have an 
option to move it out of the way, maybe some people actually like the 
Jack-in-a-box). The less frequent updates of OO is a plus also, obviously we 
all want to be up to date with security but other than that I see no need for 
frequent updates of a bread-and-butter application that does the job you need 
it to do, unless there is a genuine improvement, like stopping the RH panel 
from being a Jack-in-the-box, or if it needs to be updated for compatibility 
with an OS update.

So overall I am content to stay with OO rather than move to LO (I do have LO 
installed, but I rarely use it), and unless OO and LO can be successfully 
merged, with options to allow users to configure the merged app to work the way 
they want to work, I would not want to see OO “wound down and shuttered”.

All Flaviu Tamas needs to do, after all, is to uninstall OO and use LO, problem 
solved for him without denying others what for them is a useful alternative. 
Who is he anyway, to try to dictate that we should all use the app he prefers? 
That seems pretty arrogant to me, he should not assume that he knows what is 
best for me better than I do. He is probably like my father, who used to say, 
when he owned a 1928 Dodge, “If you can’t afford a Dodge, dodge a Ford”, then 
changed it to, “If you can’t afford a Ford, dodge a Dodge” when he bought a 
1953 Ford Customline, i.e. "I am such an expert that whatever I buy / have / 
use is automatically what everyone else should buy / have / use. Flaviu should 
just use the app he/she prefers and let others continue to have access to the 
one they prefer, and I am surprised that nobody else has told him/her that 
already.

There is an annoying glitch in the recent OO Mac update that seems to make the 
case for not updating without good reason. When an OO document is opened now, 
the green update arrow appears in the main menu bar, but when you click on it 
it doesn’t work properly. For a while it opened an initially transparent 
Extension Manager window offering a Spelling dictionary when you clicked it 
visible, but clicking on it froze the application and it had to be Force Quit 
and reopened. The app's data recovery feature minimised data loss, but it was 
still a nuisance. I have been ignoring the green arrow to circumvent the 
problem, but have just tried it again (with a new document, so as not to risk 
compromising a real one), and now the problem seems to be half fixed, clicking 
on the green arrow in the main menu bar doesn’t do anything, not even offer a 
genuine extension update, so at least the app no longer freezes. But this is a 
good example of why I am normally a late updater, because new updates of the OS 
or an app often have glitches in them that I would much rather have discovered 
by other people than discover myself, hence my dislike of LO’s much more 
frequent updates, I haven’t had problems with them, but the more frequent they 
are the greater is the risk, so I prefer less frequent and better tested 
updates, and the glitch in recent OO update is a significant disappointment.

PCS



> On 23 Jun 2022, at 5:16 pm, Frank McIsaac  wrote:
> 
> Well said FC
> 
> Regards
> Snapafun - Frank
> Rock'n'Rolling Forever
> 
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 6:20 pm Fernando Cassia,  wrote:
> 
>> On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  wrote:
>>> Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?
>>> 
>>> The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
>>> still actively being developed
>> 
>> It is.
>> 
>>> when those users would be much better
>>> served migrating to LibreOffice.
>> 
>> Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.
>> 
>>> I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
>>> various open source communities.
>> 
>> Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
>> make the cows train engineers.
>> 
>>> At the very least, a prominent notice that users should use
>>> LibreOffice on the main OpenOffice site would be nice.
>> 
>> Please, go away,
>> 
>> FC
>> 
>> -
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Re: Upgrade to Mac Catalina

[Georgia Landis]

Hi Brian,

I've updated my printer software, restarted the computer. All documents and
templates I have print just fine so I think the problem is the template my
husband has been using. I'll keep working on it to get his template to
work--maybe make a new template for a user defined size.

I did subscribe to the User Forum but forgot how to post to the forum. This
was the first time I've posted myself so wasn't sure how to do that. Do I
need to go to the Forum Board and post there, or can I use the <
users@openoffice.apache.org> address to post from my mail program?

Thank you for your help,
Georgia

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 6:15 PM Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 17:26 19/12/2019 +0900, you wrote:
> >After upgrading to Catalina and downloading the latest Open Office
> >4.1.7 I have had trouble printing correctly. Even though my document
> >uses black for the text font color, when printing it comes out as
> >blue. I have gone through the preferences to see if my settings are
> >incorrect, but can't figure it out.
> >
> >Is this a problem with using Catalina with Open Office 4.1.7?
>
> Fairly obviously not - or else there would be thousands of users
> complaining.
>
> There are a number of things you can do to diagnose the problem:
>
> o What happens if you create a test print from your operating system,
> not using any application? Do colours show correctly?
>
> o Do you have an appropriate printer driver? Do you need to update it?
>
> o What happens if you try to print in black from another application?
>
> o What colour do you see in OpenOffice's Page Preview?
>
> o Does the same problem occur with a fresh, new test document?
>
> o Is your font colour really black? You can sometimes set the editing
> display to show black text even though the print colour will be
> something else. This can be useful for users with sight difficulties.
> Se the settings at Tools | Options... (er, Preferences on a Mac) |
> OpenOffice | Accessibility. Your operating system may also have
> similar settings.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker - privately
>
>

Re: Upgrade to Mac Catalina

[Georgia Landis]

Thank you, Steven,

I've updated my printer software, restarted the computer. All documents and
templates I have print just fine so I think the problem is the template my
husband has been using. I'll keep working on it to get his template to
work--maybe make a new template for a user defined size.

I did subscribe to the User Forum but forgot how to post to the forum. This
was the first time I've posted myself so wasn't sure how to do that. Do I
need to go to the Forum Board and post there, or can I use the <
users@openoffice.apache.org> address to post from my mail program?

Thank you for your help,
Georgia

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:30 PM Steven Ahlers  wrote:

> Make sure you have updated your printer drivers from the printer’s web
> site. Then restart your computer to implement those updated drivers. Then
> start OpenOffice and retry printing. Also make sure that your printer’s ink
> levels are good.
>
> Please respond to: users@openoffice.apache.org
> so all users can help you. As a courtesy I’ve sent you a copy of this
> response, if you’re not subscribed to the users group you may miss other
> responses.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:26 AM, Georgia Landis  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > After upgrading to Catalina and downloading the latest Open Office 4.1.7
> I
> > have had trouble printing correctly. Even though my document uses black
> for
> > the text font color, when printing it comes out as blue. I have gone
> > through the preferences to see if my settings are incorrect, but can't
> > figure it out.
> >
> > Is this a problem with using Catalina with Open Office 4.1.7?
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Georgia
>
>

Re: Upgrade to Mac Catalina

[Steven Ahlers]

Make sure you have updated your printer drivers from the printer’s web site. 
Then restart your computer to implement those updated drivers. Then start 
OpenOffice and retry printing. Also make sure that your printer’s ink levels 
are good.

Please respond to: users@openoffice.apache.org
so all users can help you. As a courtesy I’ve sent you a copy of this response, 
if you’re not subscribed to the users group you may miss other responses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:26 AM, Georgia Landis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> After upgrading to Catalina and downloading the latest Open Office 4.1.7 I
> have had trouble printing correctly. Even though my document uses black for
> the text font color, when printing it comes out as blue. I have gone
> through the preferences to see if my settings are incorrect, but can't
> figure it out.
> 
> Is this a problem with using Catalina with Open Office 4.1.7?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Georgia


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Upgrade to Mac Catalina

[Georgia Landis]

Hi,
After upgrading to Catalina and downloading the latest Open Office 4.1.7 I
have had trouble printing correctly. Even though my document uses black for
the text font color, when printing it comes out as blue. I have gone
through the preferences to see if my settings are incorrect, but can't
figure it out.

Is this a problem with using Catalina with Open Office 4.1.7?

Thanks for your help,
Georgia

Re: Apple operating system upgrade question

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

At 
https://www.pcmag.com/article/371267/how-to-run-32-bit-apps-in-macos-catalina 
(2nd paragraph) there are instructions for listing which of your 
applications are 64-bit and which are 32-bit.

- Robert

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Wade Smart wrote:

> If you do not know if you installed the 32 or 64 version, just
> reinstall the 64 version
> from the site.

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Re: Apple operating system upgrade question

[David Robley]

As you don't say which version of Apache OpenOffice you are using, it is 
not possible to say. However the latest version 4.1.7 for MacOS is 64 bit.


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On 18/11/19 10:11 pm, Donna Caudill wrote:

Apple wants  to upgrade my MacBook Pro operating system to macOS Catalina, 
which will eliminate all apps running on 32 bits.  What does my Apache Open 
Office app run on? I don’t want to lose it in an operating system upgrade, and 
would appreciate your letting me know asap.
Thanks!
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Re: Apple operating system upgrade question

[Wade Smart]

If you do not know if you installed the 32 or 64 version, just
reinstall the 64 version
from the site.

-- 
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:52 AM Donna Caudill  wrote:
>
> Apple wants  to upgrade my MacBook Pro operating system to macOS Catalina, 
> which will eliminate all apps running on 32 bits.  What does my Apache Open 
> Office app run on? I don’t want to lose it in an operating system upgrade, 
> and would appreciate your letting me know asap.
> Thanks!
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Apple operating system upgrade question

[Donna Caudill]

Apple wants  to upgrade my MacBook Pro operating system to macOS Catalina, 
which will eliminate all apps running on 32 bits.  What does my Apache Open 
Office app run on? I don’t want to lose it in an operating system upgrade, and 
would appreciate your letting me know asap. 
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Re: Upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit Apple Mac

[David Robley]

Please see Q05/A05 in 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=89283


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On 28/10/19 1:03 pm, Daryl & Margaret Rough wrote:

Hello

I upgraded my Apple Mac computer from Mojave to CATALINA and I can’t get into 
Apache.

Are you able to advise how I can upgrade Apache please as I don’t want to lose 
my documents.

Thank you and kind regards

Margaret Rough

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Upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit Apple Mac

[Daryl & Margaret Rough]

Hello

I upgraded my Apple Mac computer from Mojave to CATALINA and I can’t get into 
Apache.

Are you able to advise how I can upgrade Apache please as I don’t want to lose 
my documents.

Thank you and kind regards

Margaret Rough

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Re: Upgrade

[David Robley]

This has been reported as a bug - 
https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c04951716


Version 4.1.6 is available from http://www.openoffice.org/download/

On 15/2/19 11:30 am, John van Barneveld wrote:
I have 4.1.5 on Windows 10.  If I check for upgrades I get a server 
error.  Is this my system or a genuine server fault?


Thanks
John van Barneveld


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Upgrade

[John van Barneveld]

I have 4.1.5 on Windows 10.  If I check for upgrades I get a server
error.  Is this my system or a genuine server fault?

Thanks
John van Barneveld


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Re: After upgrade, files locked

[zahra a]

hello.
if your files are locked and say the files are locked because they are
used by another program
and ask you that whether you want to open them normally or open as readonly,
just in the folder that you placed your files, find and delete locked
files and you can open your files again as normal!
hope that help, God bless you!

On 5/28/18, Mike Gi  wrote:
> I am having difficulty opening and editing my docs after upgrading
> openoffice.org to apache version.
>
> Some of these docs are very important and I can’t even view my list I’m
> managing for myself
> and my parents, having the responsibility of their estate.
>
> My files say they are LOCKED.
> Asks me if I want to overwrite or when I attempted to do so, doesn’t work,
> If I remember correctly.
>
> I am on an AirBook Mac.
>
> I tried working with the access under the info section of the file,
> I tried copying the file to try and edit it without success, I’m not sure
> what to do.
>
> I tried opening with both the previous version and the current with no
> success.
>
> I have searched the support forums and google for answers with no solution
> so far.
> I understand some have an understanding of programming with code which I am
> not capable
> or not sure I’d be comfortable doing...
>
> How can I get passed this issue!
>
> Appreciate any help, it would help me a lot to be able to access these
> docs!
>
> Mike G.


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with all they contain
in order that
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by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
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After upgrade, files locked

[Mike Gi]

I am having difficulty opening and editing my docs after upgrading 
openoffice.org to apache version.

Some of these docs are very important and I can’t even view my list I’m 
managing for myself
and my parents, having the responsibility of their estate.

My files say they are LOCKED.  
Asks me if I want to overwrite or when I attempted to do so, doesn’t work, 
If I remember correctly.

I am on an AirBook Mac.

I tried working with the access under the info section of the file,
I tried copying the file to try and edit it without success, I’m not sure what 
to do.

I tried opening with both the previous version and the current with no success.

I have searched the support forums and google for answers with no solution so 
far.
I understand some have an understanding of programming with code which I am not 
capable
or not sure I’d be comfortable doing...

How can I get passed this issue!

Appreciate any help, it would help me a lot to be able to access these docs!

Mike G.

Re: Upgrade Drawing and drawing in word

[Martin Groenescheij]

Everything is possible given that:

 * You address your question to the right group (we are just users like
   you)
 * Explain your requirements clearly (these long sentences are hard to
   read)
 * There are enough volunteers to code your requirements


On 06/04/18 9:05 AM, Khalif Foster wrote:

Can ya make it more exactly so tiny combine horizon and vertical that is 90 
degree is beyond human vision and look exactly outline from two object 
interact. So, when there is a circle with a square or square with a square to 
interact, there is a tiny gap to see. Circle has a tiny gap that over lap from 
circle curve thru the object because it is still within 1 mm or 2 mm, but not 
beyond that is 0 mm or 2000 um or so, can make it so beyond human can see as a 
whole and individual, when you see tiny individual, then you see the whole that 
is block, overlap or so. Because the curve of circle with has 90 degree that is 
tiny, and I can see a tiny square at normal level, so it is equal to 1 mm size. 
So, I know 1 mm is standard ruler, but for standing drawing and exactly 
interact, it should be beyond 0 mm that it is imperceptive. That is 2000 um or 
3000 um, that is equal to curve of circle, you don't see 90 degree on circle 
because it is imperceptive but it doesn't means it doesn't exist, but so small. 
So, that means it is 1 mm overlap of diameter, if it is radius, then half of 
diameter is overlap that is 1 mm.

Can add half circle, and half square. You have ellipse, rectangle, circle, 
square, and all of them 4 with rounded, so can half of that. Half of rectangle 
is square, same with ellipse. So, can ya add one more stretch circle? You have 
circle that stretch that is even two curve, but horizon do not stay the same, 
it narrows, so can make it so horizon will not narrow but remain the same. 
Ellipse is narrow horizon for both size. Oval is narrow curve for one side, but 
don't have two curve that is same and two horizon that is same and can be 
stretch. So, it is a square within a circle. One thing that is important to 
combine square and circle as one whole. At least one diameter of square that is 
top is even as it stretch to different distance forward to bottom. Well, it is 
not circle and square as one whole because it overlaps, so it is one half 
circle and one square as as one whole. Can add two drawing that is combine of 
two, half square with half curve, but stretch. So, basically half square and 
half circle, one more stretch of circle, and combine of half both square and 
circle.

Upgrade Drawing and drawing in word

[Khalif Foster]

Can ya make it more exactly so tiny combine horizon and vertical that is 90 
degree is beyond human vision and look exactly outline from two object 
interact. So, when there is a circle with a square or square with a square to 
interact, there is a tiny gap to see. Circle has a tiny gap that over lap from 
circle curve thru the object because it is still within 1 mm or 2 mm, but not 
beyond that is 0 mm or 2000 um or so, can make it so beyond human can see as a 
whole and individual, when you see tiny individual, then you see the whole that 
is block, overlap or so. Because the curve of circle with has 90 degree that is 
tiny, and I can see a tiny square at normal level, so it is equal to 1 mm size. 
So, I know 1 mm is standard ruler, but for standing drawing and exactly 
interact, it should be beyond 0 mm that it is imperceptive. That is 2000 um or 
3000 um, that is equal to curve of circle, you don't see 90 degree on circle 
because it is imperceptive but it doesn't means it doesn't exist, but so small. 
So, that means it is 1 mm overlap of diameter, if it is radius, then half of 
diameter is overlap that is 1 mm. 

Can add half circle, and half square. You have ellipse, rectangle, circle, 
square, and all of them 4 with rounded, so can half of that. Half of rectangle 
is square, same with ellipse. So, can ya add one more stretch circle? You have 
circle that stretch that is even two curve, but horizon do not stay the same, 
it narrows, so can make it so horizon will not narrow but remain the same. 
Ellipse is narrow horizon for both size. Oval is narrow curve for one side, but 
don't have two curve that is same and two horizon that is same and can be 
stretch. So, it is a square within a circle. One thing that is important to 
combine square and circle as one whole. At least one diameter of square that is 
top is even as it stretch to different distance forward to bottom. Well, it is 
not circle and square as one whole because it overlaps, so it is one half 
circle and one square as as one whole. Can add two drawing that is combine of 
two, half square with half curve, but stretch. So, basically half square and 
half circle, one more stretch of circle, and combine of half both square and 
circle. 

upgrade failures

[John Hawthorne]

For more than a year I have been getting upgrade notifications that fail in 
attempts to upgrade.

The host name update32.services.openoffice.org could not be resolved.

Suggestions?

hawthorne.is.j...@gmail.com


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Re: Upgrade

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 22:51:11 -0500
"Carl Garrett" <garret...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

> I have ver 3.2. Can I upgrade to ver 4.1.2 with no problems and still be able 
> to load all of my old docs?
> Thanks,
> Carl Garrett

Yes

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Upgrade

[Carl Garrett]

I have ver 3.2. Can I upgrade to ver 4.1.2 with no problems and still be able 
to load all of my old docs?
Thanks,
Carl Garrett

Re: Installing the latest upgrade on my Mac.

[James Plante]

Google “Gatekeeper on Mac”. It’s a security feature.

> On Aug 15, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Geraint Pugh  wrote:
> 
> Can’t get the “install anyway” button to work when I get the message that you 
> are an unidentified source.
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Installing the latest upgrade on my Mac.

[Geraint Pugh]

Can’t get the “install anyway” button to work when I get the message that you 
are an unidentified source.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade [was: Word documents]

[Brian Barker]

At 14:42 29/04/2016 +1000, Jean Lear wrote:
... I would caution anyone who upgrades to Windows 10, before doing 
anything else to check the Tools > Options > Language Settings > 
Language of Apache Open Office. (This is if they are using anything 
other that English (USA).) My sad experience was that Windows 10 was 
put onto my computer without me being aware of it. I later found 
that the Options I had previously set for languages, which was 
English (Australian) had been changed to English (USA).


If you needed to set your OpenOffice language to "English 
(Australia)", it may be that your original Windows installation was 
incorrectly set to Microsoft's default US locale and language. If you 
had configured Windows to Australian settings, these may have instead 
been inherited automatically by OpenOffice. When Windows 10 was 
installed, one of the first things that should have been done - if 
this didn't happen automatically - was to ensure that the regional 
and language settings in Windows itself were again set appropriately.


I'm surprised that upgrading Windows should change your OpenOffice 
options, but perhaps - since you say this was done without your 
knowledge - you will not know whether a fresh installation of 
OpenOffice was made or whether your OpenOffice profile was 
unhelpfully deleted by whoever did the job in your absence. You can 
easily reset the language options, of course - exactly as you 
describe. But the best way is to get the Windows settings right first.


This changed formatting such as dates in all my OpenOffice Calc 
files. When I reset the formatting in the Options all the dates 
became corrupted and ended up being shown as a four year and one day 
difference in everything. The only thing I could do then, apart from 
going through all the settings for OpenOffice in the Options in case 
anything else had been changed, was to start new files for 
everything I was currently wanting to use from the date I found the 
errors. The old files I have retained are of very little use to me now.


You are right to say that you should have been able to attend to this 
- very easily, I hope - in the OpenOffice options. Dates are stored 
as the number of days from a date origin. There are three choices for 
this origin - for consistency with other software - and these are 
provided at Tools | Options... | OpenOffice Calc | Calculate | Date. 
(The one-day difference between one pair is to cope with Microsoft's 
erroneous belief, built into Microsoft Excel and itself inherited 
from Lotus 1-2-3, that 1900 was a leap year and that 29 February 1900 
existed. It didn't.) One pair of these options differs by exactly 
four years and one day, so resetting this to whatever you had 
previously used may have solved your problem instantly and without 
reconstructing your spreadsheets.


I sympathise with your predicament and don't mean to belittle your 
problem. Indeed, these matters are so interdependent on various 
settings and software versions that - despite my confident belief - I 
do not guarantee what I've suggested.


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3.3 to 4.1.2 upgrade

[John Hart]

Can 4.1.2 be installed while leaving 3.3 untouched and operational?

If so, what needs to be done to save the old version?

jrh

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Re: Upgrade 4.1.2.

[Henry Rappaport]

I got a virus warning regarding the setup file and it was deleted. Anyone else 
have this issue in Windows 10? 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Nein.  
> 
> If you have 4.1.2, there is no action required for CVE-2015-1774.
> 
> Wenn Sie 4.1.2 haben, gibt es keine Aktion für CVE-2015-1774 erforderlich.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ruedi Durrer [mailto:ruedi.dur...@sunrise.ch]
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:48
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Upgrade 4.1.2.
>> 
>> Guten Abend,
>> 
>> ich habe das Upgrade auf 4.1.2. gemacht.
>> Heute habe ich ein Mail erhalten betreffend dem file hwp.dll, welches
>> VOR dem upgrade hätte geändert werden müssen.
>> Muss ich nun etwas unternehmen?
>> 
>> Besten Dank
>> Ruedi Durrer, Bern
>> 
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Re: Upgrade 4.1.2.

[Alan B]

2015-10-30 19:43 GMT-04:00 Henry Rappaport :

> I got a virus warning regarding the setup file and it was deleted. Anyone
> else have this issue in Windows 10?
>

Two questions Henry,

1. What website, the URL please (http://), did you download the
software from?
2. What antivirus software, title and version please?

If the software came from the official site, http://www.openoffice.org, it
is unlikely to have a virus. And some antivirus products have given false
positives when scanning OpenOffice.

On the other hand if the software came from some other website it may or
may not contain a virus. OpenOffice is open source and as a result anyone
can put anything into it that they wish, enhancements or viruses.

RE: Upgrade 4.1.2.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Nein.  

If you have 4.1.2, there is no action required for CVE-2015-1774.

Wenn Sie 4.1.2 haben, gibt es keine Aktion für CVE-2015-1774 erforderlich.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ruedi Durrer [mailto:ruedi.dur...@sunrise.ch]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:48
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Upgrade 4.1.2.
> 
> Guten Abend,
> 
> ich habe das Upgrade auf 4.1.2. gemacht.
> Heute habe ich ein Mail erhalten betreffend dem file hwp.dll, welches
> VOR dem upgrade hätte geändert werden müssen.
> Muss ich nun etwas unternehmen?
> 
> Besten Dank
> Ruedi Durrer, Bern
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Upgrade 4.1.2.

[Ruedi Durrer]

Guten Abend,

ich habe das Upgrade auf 4.1.2. gemacht.
Heute habe ich ein Mail erhalten betreffend dem file hwp.dll, welches 
VOR dem upgrade hätte geändert werden müssen.

Muss ich nun etwas unternehmen?

Besten Dank
Ruedi Durrer, Bern


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Re: CHECKING ACCOUNTS: Read-Only After Windows 10 Upgrade

[doug]

On 08/14/2015 11:48 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

I have some follow-up questions to add to those I requested in a previous post 
(forwarded to you separately).


Just a quick question: how are permissions assigned and changed in 
Windows 7, 8.1, 10?

I'm not afraid of (and would prefer) command line instructions.

--doug

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Re: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10 11860

[D. and L. Koch]

Re: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10
11860 by: Dennis E. Hamilton

Dennis, thanks for your help. I've found the locked copy of the offending file 
and deleted it, and learned a bit more about how things work.

--David


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Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

[D. and L. Koch]

All of my OpenOffice files are locked for editing after my Win7 computer 
was upgraded to Win10.  Also, I had to repair OpenOffice to work at 
all.  How can I unlock my files for editing?



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RE: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Thank you for your report.

Although we have heard some users have this problem, we have not been able to 
reproduce it.  Many of us upgraded to Windows 10 without difficulty.

Please help us by providing more details.  Please reply only to 
mailto:users@openoffice.apache.org and not to me.  If you reply to me, I will 
assume that I have permission to post your reply to that list.

Initial questions:

1. SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
Right click on the Windows button (leftmost symbol on the task bar), and then 
select System.  Please report the following information:

  Windows edition
The name of the edition (first line under Windows edition):

  System
Processor:
Installed memory (RAM):
System type:
Pen and Touch:

2. OPEN OFFICE CONFIGURATION
   Now left click on the Windows button
   On the left sidebar that shows all programs, scroll down to the letter O 
where you see a folder named OpenOffice.
   What is the full name of that folder (including any version number)?:


   Click on the OpenOffice entry in the all-programs entry.
   In the list that opens up, click on the first entry, for OpenOffice itself.  
Do not click on any of the individual components.
   OpenOffice should open and present its dashboard view.
   This is a white frame with the buttons for the six types of documents 
processed by OpenOffice.

   At the top of the opened OpenOffice window, there is a menu row.  Click on 
the Help item.
   In the little pop-down list that opens, click About OpenOffice
   What is the version information in the About ... OpenOffice display that 
opens up?

   Name and version of the software (e.g., Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 :
   Rev. number (in line below name and version number) if any (e.g., 1617669):

Click OK on the About ...OpenOffice display.

On the dashboard, there is a diagram of a file folder with an arrow emerging 
from it.  Click on the down pointer to the right of that image.  (Not the 
folder, the down pointer).

You should see a list of the last few documents you worked on.

How many items are in the list (default maximum is 10):

How many will open by clicking on their filenames in that list (do this in 
reverse order):

(This is about opening in any mode, read-only or not.  To go through them one 
at a time, you will have to close the opened one without attempting any 
changes, and re-open OpenOffice to try the next one)

How many of those that open are identified as being read-only:

How do you determine that they are read-only?  

That is, what is the indication in the opened-document window.  Is it the same 
for all of the documents that open read-only?


THAT'S MANY QUESTIONS

When we see your response, we will have other questions about the locations of 
those documents, or of others that you tried to open that are not on that list 
of recent documents.

Thank you for reporting your difficulty.  Your answers will be instrumental in 
helping us to narrow down the case to where we can identify its origin and 
provide a work-around.

 - Dennis


 

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From: D. and L. Koch [mailto:dnlsorch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 08:13
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

All of my OpenOffice files are locked for editing after my Win7 computer 
was upgraded to Win10.  Also, I had to repair OpenOffice to work at 
all.  How can I unlock my files for editing?


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Re: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

[D. and L. Koch]

More details below *in bold:*

On 8/8/2015 11:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Thank you for your report.

Although we have heard some users have this problem, we have not been able to 
reproduce it.  Many of us upgraded to Windows 10 without difficulty.

Please help us by providing more details.  Please reply only to 
mailto:users@openoffice.apache.org and not to me.  If you reply to me, I will 
assume that I have permission to post your reply to that list.

Initial questions:

1. SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
Right click on the Windows button (leftmost symbol on the task bar), and then select 
System.  Please report the following information:

   Windows edition
 The name of the edition (first line under Windows edition):*Windows 10 
Home*

   System
 Processor:*Intel Core i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz*
 Installed memory (RAM):*6:00 GB*
 System type:*64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor*
 Pen and Touch:*No Pen or Touch Input is available for this Display*

2. OPEN OFFICE CONFIGURATION
Now left click on the Windows button
On the left sidebar that shows all programs, scroll down to the letter O 
where you see a folder named OpenOffice.
What is the full name of that folder (including any version 
number)?:*OpenOffice 4.1.1*


Click on the OpenOffice entry in the all-programs entry.
In the list that opens up, click on the first entry, for OpenOffice itself. 
 Do not click on any of the individual components.
OpenOffice should open and present its dashboard view.
This is a white frame with the buttons for the six types of documents 
processed by OpenOffice.

At the top of the opened OpenOffice window, there is a menu row.  Click 
on the Help item.
In the little pop-down list that opens, click About OpenOffice
What is the version information in the About ... OpenOffice display that 
opens up?

Name and version of the software (e.g., Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 :*Apache 
OpenOffice 4.1.1*

Rev. number (in line below name and version number) if any (e.g., 
1617669):*Rev. 1617669*

Click OK on the About ...OpenOffice display.

On the dashboard, there is a diagram of a file folder with an arrow emerging 
from it.  Click on the down pointer to the right of that image.  (Not the 
folder, the down pointer).

You should see a list of the last few documents you worked on.

How many items are in the list (default maximum is 10):*10*

How many will open by clicking on their filenames in that list (do this in 
reverse order):*10***

(This is about opening in any mode, read-only or not.  To go through them one 
at a time, you will have to close the opened one without attempting any 
changes, and re-open OpenOffice to try the next one)

How many of those that open are identified as being read-only:*1*  *(My mistake. Having trouble with only one file. I imported a copy from 
my other computer and saved it with a different name. It opens fine. I 
rename it with its original name, and it will no longer open.)*



How do you determine that they are read-only?
  
That is, what is the indication in the opened-document window.  Is it the same for all of the documents that open read-only?
*Box opens saying Document file _title is locked for editing* *by 
David Koch (date), etc. Open read only or open a copy. *I have never 
knowingly locked this file as I use it nearly every day.*This is 
probably a case of operator error.


Sorry if I've wasted your time, but I do appreciate your response and 
willingness to look at a problem.

*


THAT'S MANY QUESTIONS

When we see your response, we will have other questions about the locations of 
those documents, or of others that you tried to open that are not on that list 
of recent documents.

Thank you for reporting your difficulty.  Your answers will be instrumental in 
helping us to narrow down the case to where we can identify its origin and 
provide a work-around.

  - Dennis


  


-Original Message-
From: D. and L. Koch [mailto:dnlsorch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 08:13
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

All of my OpenOffice files are locked for editing after my Win7 computer
was upgraded to Win10.  Also, I had to repair OpenOffice to work at
all.  How can I unlock my files for editing?


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REPORTING Windows 10 Upgrade Issues: BASIC SITUATION

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

We are reading reports of some users *not* being able to edit in OpenOffice 
after upgrading to Windows 10.  We have not been able to reproduce the 
situation from that information alone.  Many of us have upgraded to Windows 10 
without difficulty.
 
If you or someone you know is having this problem show up in OpenOffice, please 
help us by working with the Windows 10 computer that is involved.  Reply only 
to users@openoffice.apache.org and not to individuals.  If you reply to me, I 
will assume that I have permission to post your reply to this list and 
personally forward it to the list.

The easy way to reply is with this original included.  Just enter your answers 
where they are asked for.  Send the whole thing.

BASIC SITUATION INFORMATION

This is a little lengthy.  It is to obtain just the basics.  Depending on the 
basic information, there will be follow-ups to obtain further details.  We have 
seen a case where this procedure was enough to find a resolution of the problem.

1. SCOPE OF PROBLEM
   Do you see this problem using files in applications other than OpenOffice?

   If you notice the problem with other files and applications let us know. 
That is very important.  Because you are having the difficulty with OpenOffice 
either way, please go through the remainder of this procedure anyhow.  

1. SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
In Windows 10, right click on the Windows button (leftmost symbol on the task 
bar), and then select System.  Please report the following information from 
the display that appears.

  Windows edition
The name of the edition (complete first line below Windows edition):

  System
Processor:
Installed memory (RAM):
System type:
Pen and Touch:

2. OPEN OFFICE CONFIGURATION

   Now left click on the Windows button.

   On the left sidebar of the Start display that shows all programs, scroll 
down to the letter O where you see a folder named OpenOffice.  If you don't see 
a list of all programs, click the All apps item at the bottom of the sidebar 
to show the list.  If you do not see a left sidebar at all, click the menu 
button (a stack of three horizontal lines) in the upper-left corner of the 
start page.

   What is the full name of that OpenOffice folder (including any version 
number)?:


   Click on the OpenOffice entry in the all-programs entry.
   In the list that opens up, click on the first entry, for OpenOffice itself.  
Do not click on any of the individual components.
   OpenOffice should open and present its dashboard view.
   This provides a white frame including buttons for the six types of documents 
processed by OpenOffice.

   At the top of the opened OpenOffice window, there is a menu row.  Click on 
the Help item.  In the little pop-down list that opens, click About 
OpenOffice  What is the version information in the About ... OpenOffice 
display that opens up?

   Name and version of the software (e.g., Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1:

   Rev. number (in line below name and version number) if any (e.g., 1617669):

Click OK on the About ...OpenOffice display.

On the dashboard, there is a diagram of a file folder with an arrow emerging 
from it.  Click on the down pointer to the right of that image.  (Not the 
folder, the down pointer).

Do you see a list of the last few documents you worked on?

How many items are in the list (default maximum is 10):

IF THERE ARE NONE, STOP HERE.  Let us know the information requested above and 
there will be a follow-up question.

IF THERE ARE ITEMS IN THE LIST, CONTINUE.

The items in the list are numbered.  This information will be important later.  
Write down the numbers and the full names of the files at each number.  You may 
have to put your mouse over any name that has been abbreviated to see the full 
name. The full names are important for forensic work.  

PLEASE REVIEW ALL OF THE QUESTIONS BELOW SO YOU CAN WORK THROUGH THE LIST ONLY 
ONCE:

How many will open by clicking on their filenames in that list (do this in 
reverse order)?:

(This is about opening in any mode, editable or not.  To go through them one at 
a time, you will have to close the opened one without attempting any changes, 
then re-open OpenOffice to try the next one.) 

This procedure cannot open a file that has been moved from where it was last 
used in OpenOffice.  OpenOffice will report this.  How many of those are there?

How many of those open with no problem and no indication they cannot be edited?:

How many of those that open are identified as being read-only or not editable?:

How do you determine that they are not editable?  

That is, what is the indication in the opened-document window.  Is it the same 
for all of the documents that open read-only?

Include the list of documents that open but that are not editable.  The 
follow-up will ask you to narrow in on those files to see what about them is a 
problem.


THAT'S MANY QUESTIONS

When we see your response, we will have other questions about the locations of 
those 

RE: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

No problem.  That the limitation applies to only one file is a very big clue.  
It is valuable to learn that this is an isolated case for you.  It is also 
important in helping other users determine whether the problem is a lingering 
lock on a file had been edited in the past.

Thank you for working through this by the numbers and narrowing to a specific 
problem.

I am going to summarize and suggest a remedy.  This remedy should work for 
everyone that has the same situation on Windows 10.

For you, there is a single file, by name, that is locked for editing.

There are two ways to deal with this.  Please let us know which you tried and 
confirm that it was successful:

 1. Immediate work-around: Open that file and save it with a new name, varied 
somehow to show this is a later version to use.  It is important that the name 
be different.  
If this succeeds, you can now delete the version that is locked for editing 
using the Windows File Explorer.

 2. In the same folder as that document, you can instead find the lock file and 
remove it.  Here's how to find and remove lock entries in the same folder as a 
document that is locked for editing.  

  a. For example, I have a document test-locking.odt in a folder.  
  b. I opened the document in AOO 4.1.1 and changed one line.
  c. *Without saving* the changed document, I used the task manager to close 
AOO.  (The same would happen if I did a restart or a shutdown while a document 
edit was in-progress.)
  d. Since I did not complete editing of the document, there is a lock file in 
the same folder.  Its name, in my case, is .~lock.test.locking.odt#.  This is 
a HIDDEN file.

 3. To View Hidden files (always a good idea) in Windows File Explorer on 
Windows 10,
  a. Select the View tab in the Windows File Explorer window that is opened at 
the suspect folder.
  b. For the Layout, select Details (to give you a look at the actual file 
names and other data.  You can always change the view of folder to any other 
preference.  Use Details for trouble-shooting.
  c. Over in the Show/hide section of the View tab,
 (i) Leave Item check boxes alone if you like the way things work
 (ii) CHECK File name extensions
 (iii) CHECK Hidden items

 That should reveal the lock.your-file-name# file.  You can just delete 
it, now that you see it.  


-Original Message-
From: D. and L. Koch [mailto:dnlsorch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 11:59
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Files locked for editing after Win7 upgrade to Win10

More details below *in bold:*

On 8/8/2015 11:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
[ ... ]
 On the dashboard, there is a diagram of a file folder with an arrow emerging 
 from it.  Click on the down pointer to the right of that image.  (Not the 
 folder, the down pointer).

 You should see a list of the last few documents you worked on.

 How many items are in the list (default maximum is 10):*10*

 How many will open by clicking on their filenames in that list (do this in 
 reverse order):*10***

 (This is about opening in any mode, read-only or not.  To go through them one 
 at a time, you will have to close the opened one without attempting any 
 changes, and re-open OpenOffice to try the next one)

 How many of those that open are identified as being read-only:*1*  


*(My mistake. Having trouble with only one file. I imported a copy from 
 my other computer and saved it with a different name. It opens fine. I 
 rename it with its original name, and it will no longer open.)*


 How do you determine that they are read-only?
   
 That is, what is the indication in the opened-document window.  Is it the 
 same for all of the documents that open read-only?
*Box opens saying Document file _title is locked for editing* *by 
David Koch (date), etc. Open read only or open a copy. *I have never 
knowingly locked this file as I use it nearly every day.*This is 
probably a case of operator error.

[ ... ]



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Re: need to upgrade--will it work with what I have?

[James Knott]

On 06/17/2015 10:16 PM, Sondra Potter wrote:
 Hello,

 I have been using Neooffice 2.2.3 Patch 0 since 2010.  I got a new MacBook 
 Pro and my Neooffice won't work on my new laptop.  If I get the new version 
 2014.11 will it migrate into my old invoices or do I have to start a new file 
 of invoices and start with new invoices?



This mail list is about OpenOffice, not Neooffice.  However the lastest
version of OpenOffice can be downloaded for free from
www.openoffice.org.  It should work on your MacBook

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Downloading Upgrade to 4.1.1

[Jodi]

Unable to download - get nothing when click on the download link. Thank you.

Thank you,
Jodi
jod...@embarqmail.com

Re: Downloading Upgrade to 4.1.1

[Jim McLaughlin]

Very difficult to try to help if you don't tell us:

a) what site (URL( are you using for your download.   (It should ALWAYS AND
ONLY BE www.openoffice.org),

b)  Web browser and version;

c).  OS and version;

d)  available disk space on hard drive disk you seek to load / install OO
4/1/1

Please reply only on the users@openoffice.apache.org list.

Thank you.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jodi jod...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Unable to download - get nothing when click on the download link. Thank
 you.

 Thank you,
 Jodi
 jod...@embarqmail.com

Re: Should I Upgrade?

[Carson Chittom]

FC fc...@cox.net writes:

 I use OO 3.4.1 with Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

 I'm an ordinary user; nothing exotic.

 Should I upgrade and why?

Probably you should.  There were 89 bug reports resolved in 4.1.1, 314
resolved in 4.1.0, 90 in 4.0.1, and over 500 in 4.0.0--that's a lot of
resolved bugs, even if a few of those bugs relate to translation
issues instead of actual bugs in the software.  If you're curious, you
can see the list of resolved bugs in the Bugzilla bug tracker.  For
example, here's the list for 4.1.1:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDtarget_milestone=4.1.1

 I once tried 4.0 and encountered many problems so I'm wary.

You may want to search the bug reports to see if the problems you
experienced were known issues which have been resolved.  And of course
you can ask questions on this list if you have problems in the future.

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Should I Upgrade?

[FC]

I use OO 3.4.1 with Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

I'm an ordinary user; nothing exotic.

Should I upgrade and why?

I once tried 4.0 and encountered many problems so I'm wary.

Fred

Re: Should I Upgrade?

[Tony Gallas]

G'day Fred
Like you, I'm a fairly ordinary user. I run Win 8.1 64 bit and the latest AOO 
version and always update when a new version comes out. Generally, a few bugs 
are fixed and occasionally extra functionalities are added.
When you upgrade, always do it from the official sitewww.openoffice.org  which 
takes you to the SourceForge site where all AOO files are stored. Once there 
your download should start in a few seconds once you click the download button. 
Downloading from a third party source almost guarantees that you will have 
problems and usually wants to add other software that may or not be safe
Good luck
Tony


On 30/12/2014 2:08 PM, FC wrote:


I use OO 3.4.1 with Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

I'm an ordinary user; nothing exotic.

Should I upgrade and why?

I once tried 4.0 and encountered many problems so I'm wary.

Fred






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Upgrade to latest version

[Peaches Spirit Walker]

I just downloaded the latest version of Openoffice.  Now when I try to open 
saved spreadsheets, it requests an ASCIII code and doesn't open the document.  
Is this a bug or what?  All my spreadsheets were saved in the old version.  I 
thought they would automatically open in the new version.
 
 
Peaches Spiritwalker

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Help me protect myself. Surround me with that which is positive,
edifying, and uplifting.

Installing 4.1.1 upgrade

[Alan Barnard]

Upgrade won't install. Keep getting an error message that starts Please exit 
OpenOffice 4.1.1 and the OpenOffice 4.1.1 Quickstarter before you continue ... 
but I have no such programs running. It exits without installing.  

Re: Installing 4.1.1 upgrade

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 15-10-2014 10:33, Alan Barnard wrote:

Upgrade won't install. Keep getting an error message that starts Please exit 
OpenOffice 4.1.1 and the OpenOffice 4.1.1 Quickstarter before you continue ... but 
I have no such programs running. It exits without installing.
Check your options in Tools -- Options -- OpenOffice -- Memory ... 
OpenOffice Quickstarter


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how to upgrade OO (Linux/Ubuntu)

[Uwe Brauer]

Hello

I followed the instruction to install OO 4.01 (which is not supported by
my Kubuntu 10.04)
as found in 

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/
How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#DEB_Installation

So far so good but now I wanted to upgrade to the latest 4.1.1 version
and for this I presume I have to de-install the older version (although
it ends up in /opt/openofficeX, but I want to be on the sure side. 
Since this is not officially supported by Kubuntu I cannot easily run 
apt-get remove, but have to deal with 
dpkg

While it was easy to run 

 sudo dpkg -i  *deb

It is not clear to me how to do the inverse, so
what  is the relevant (comfortable) command for the de installation?

thanks

Uwe Brauer 



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Re: Can't find upgrade, Can't Uninstall - How do you get rid of OO to start over? I can't Paste out of OO 3.2 on Debian Linux.

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Linda Hull chalcedony6...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have OpenOffice 3.2.1.4 on Debian Squeeze (Linux)

 How does one remove old OpenOffice to get a new one?

 When I try to paste text from Open Office to ANY other application, I lose
 words
  and parts of lines, whole paragraphs.

 It's inconsistent. Sometimes it will paste the first two lines out of 5,
 sometim
 es only the final word in a paragraph, or just one character out of a
 paste, will make it to the new page. This happens between OO and gedit, OO
 and vi(m), OO and IRC/XChat2, OO document1 and OO document2, and OO and web
 based email.

 It might have started in December, when I fixed the bug that wasn't letting
 OO open. Re: [Solved] Stuck in Document Recovery .. or more recently. We
 are moving house; I haven't had time to focus on my computer.

 Upgrading was suggested. I tried very hard to find an acceptable download
 of 4.1 for i386. Nobody is in the Debian OpenOffice Freenode channel.

 http://sourceforge.net/directory/os:linux/freshness:recently-updated/?q=OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-deb
 does not show me the correct file. I keep getting a RedHat type download.


Probably the most convenient way for you to get the exact version/package
you need is to go to:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

Please get back to this list if you still encounter problems.



 If I can't use OpenOffice, I have to do something. I need help, please?

 Linda

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Re: Can't find upgrade, Can't Uninstall - How do you get rid of OO to start over? I can't Paste out of OO 3.2 on Debian Linux.

[Linda Hull]

Greg,

Could you please explain how to do that?

 Clearing the clipboard history worked here.

Linda


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 April 2014 20:59:31 you wrote:
  I have OpenOffice 3.2.1.4 on Debian Squeeze (Linux)
 
  How does one remove old OpenOffice to get a new one?
 
  When I try to paste text from Open Office to ANY other application, I
  lose words
   and parts of lines, whole paragraphs.
 
  It's inconsistent. Sometimes it will paste the first two lines out of
  5, sometim
  es only the final word in a paragraph, or just one character out of a
  paste, will make it to the new page. This happens between OO and
  gedit, OO and vi(m), OO and IRC/XChat2, OO document1 and OO
  document2, and OO and web based email.



 I have Squeeze  OO 3.2.1-11+squeeze8, Debians  packaging. No issues
 with cut/copy paste. I have had issues with some DE with the clipboard,
 which causes unpredictable behaviour you mention. Clearing the
 clipboard history worked here.



  It might have started in December, when I fixed the bug that wasn't
  letting OO open. Re: [Solved] Stuck in Document Recovery .. or more
  recently. We are moving house; I haven't had time to focus on my
  computer.
 
  Upgrading was suggested. I tried very hard to find an acceptable
  download of 4.1 for i386. Nobody is in the Debian OpenOffice Freenode
  channel.
  http://sourceforge.net/directory/os:linux/freshness:recently-updated/
 ?q=OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-deb does not show me the correct
  file. I keep getting a RedHat type download.
 
  If I can't use OpenOffice, I have to do something. I need help,
  please?
 
  Linda



 Peace,

 Greg

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Re: Can't find upgrade, Can't Uninstall - How do you get rid of OO to start over? I can't Paste out of OO 3.2 on Debian Linux.

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 09 April 2014 15:11:31 you wrote:
 Greg,

 Could you please explain how to do that?

  Clearing the clipboard history worked here.

 Linda

The clipboard is a utility that is part of my desktop environment, look 
in your menu system, utilities. Has different names depending  on 
which DE yoy are using.

Greg

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Re: Can't find upgrade, Can't Uninstall - How do you get rid of OO to start over? I can't Paste out of OO 3.2 on Debian Linux.

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 09 April 2014 17:07:50 you wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 April 2014 15:11:31 you wrote:
  Greg,
 
  Could you please explain how to do that?
 
   Clearing the clipboard history worked here.
 
  Linda

 The clipboard is a utility that is part of my desktop environment,
 look in your menu system, utilities. Has different names depending 
 on which DE yoy are using.

 Greg

There is quite a bit of discussion on the internet about similar or same 
issues. Here is an example the might point you to a better 
understanding ;

http://superuser.com/questions/68170/how-can-i-merge-the-gnome-clipboard-and-the-x-selection


Peace,

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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[MIKE LISH]

Thanks for your input Shari and for explaining it in such an understanding
manner.

Regards,
Mike Lish


On 25 July 2013 17:00, Shari Smith shari.sm...@uneedstuff.com wrote:

 Hi Mike, I use Thunderbird imap'd to gMail. The simple answer (and possibly
 not technically correct) to your question is that gMail in itself is not a
 program, like Microsoft Word is a program. Your computer can be set to open
 the file type .doc with a program. As gMail isn't a program, it can't be
 select as the open with.

 When you're working in your browser and offered email, it's your browser
 that is handling that, not your system, hence why it can offer the gMail
 option.

 I believe a few people have shared some ways around this, so it can be
 made to do it. I find Thunderbird the easiest, as I use it for my email;
 hence why I choose that route.


 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote:

  All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated.  Why can't AOO be
 made
  to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility
  with Microsoft .doc  etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's
   direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this
  problem. C'mon!  AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous
  for it not to recognize Google email! !
 
  Mike Lish
 
 
  On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:
 
   That's not the issue.  Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that
   basis.
  
   What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop
 protocol
   for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment.  This
  will
   usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on
  the
   desktop.  Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which
   this can be handled.
  
   However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop
 e-mail
   applications, instead of using a browser.  *That* software can then be
   reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being
 registered
   as the default e-mail application.
  
   The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to
   Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice.  Depending on
 operating
   system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google
  Mail
   and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice.  The same should apply for
   Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that
   desktop application.
  
   There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8.  There is
   some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been
  discussed.
  
- Dennis
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM
   To: users@openoffice.apache.org
   Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
  
   I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very
  annoying
   problem.  It does not!!
  
   I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to
 recognize
   Google email is stone age stuff !
  
   Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service
 from
   3rd
   party company?
  
  
  
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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[MIKE LISH]

All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated.  Why can't AOO be made
to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility
with Microsoft .doc  etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's
 direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this
problem. C'mon!  AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous
for it not to recognize Google email! !

Mike Lish


On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

 That's not the issue.  Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that
 basis.

 What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol
 for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment.  This will
 usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the
 desktop.  Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which
 this can be handled.

 However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail
 applications, instead of using a browser.  *That* software can then be
 reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered
 as the default e-mail application.

 The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to
 Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice.  Depending on operating
 system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail
 and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice.  The same should apply for
 Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that
 desktop application.

 There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8.  There is
 some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed.

  - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

 I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
 problem.  It does not!!

 I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
 Google email is stone age stuff !

 Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from
 3rd
 party company?



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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote:
 All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated.  Why can't AOO be made
 to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility
 with Microsoft .doc  etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's
  direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this
 problem. C'mon!  AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous
 for it not to recognize Google email! !


Simple:  there is an industry standard for accessing email:  MAPI
(Messaging Application Programming Interface).  OpenOffice works with
any application that supports MAPI.   Most email clients support MAPI.
 GMail does not.  That is their choice.  We can't force them to
support MAPI.  But we're not writing custom support for every email
client in existence.  We support the standard.

A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add
MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they
work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting:
http://www.mapi4gmail.com/

Regards,

-Rob


 Mike Lish


 On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

 That's not the issue.  Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that
 basis.

 What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol
 for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment.  This will
 usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the
 desktop.  Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which
 this can be handled.

 However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail
 applications, instead of using a browser.  *That* software can then be
 reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered
 as the default e-mail application.

 The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to
 Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice.  Depending on operating
 system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail
 and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice.  The same should apply for
 Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that
 desktop application.

 There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8.  There is
 some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed.

  - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

 I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
 problem.  It does not!!

 I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
 Google email is stone age stuff !

 Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from
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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:34 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wouldn't expect you to write in custom support for every email client in
 existence, but I would expect an exception to be made for the biggest and
  perhaps the top three.  What would it take to do!  If perhaps %95 percent
 of email traffic is represented by the top three clients why exclude the
 biggest of them, in spite of their preference not to support MAPI.   It
 doesn't make any sense!


Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that 3rd parties have
already written adapters to bring MAPI support to GMail.  That's the
way to go.  If you use an adapter then all of your desktop
applications that support MAPI will be able to work with GMail as
well.

-Rob

 Regards,
 Mike


 On 24 July 2013 12:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote:
  All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated.  Why can't AOO be
 made
  to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility
  with Microsoft .doc  etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's
   direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this
  problem. C'mon!  AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous
  for it not to recognize Google email! !
 

 Simple:  there is an industry standard for accessing email:  MAPI
 (Messaging Application Programming Interface).  OpenOffice works with
 any application that supports MAPI.   Most email clients support MAPI.
  GMail does not.  That is their choice.  We can't force them to
 support MAPI.  But we're not writing custom support for every email
 client in existence.  We support the standard.

 A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add
 MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they
 work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting:
 http://www.mapi4gmail.com/

 Regards,

 -Rob


  Mike Lish
 
 
  On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:
 
  That's not the issue.  Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that
  basis.
 
  What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol
  for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment.  This
 will
  usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on
 the
  desktop.  Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which
  this can be handled.
 
  However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail
  applications, instead of using a browser.  *That* software can then be
  reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being
 registered
  as the default e-mail application.
 
  The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to
  Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice.  Depending on
 operating
  system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google
 Mail
  and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice.  The same should apply for
  Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that
  desktop application.
 
  There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8.  There is
  some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been
 discussed.
 
   - Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM
  To: users@openoffice.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
 
  I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very
 annoying
  problem.  It does not!!
 
  I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to
 recognize
  Google email is stone age stuff !
 
  Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from
  3rd
  party company?
 
 
 
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Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[MIKE LISH]

I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
problem.  It does not!!

I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
Google email is stone age stuff !

Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted??

Mike Lish

Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[Urmas]

I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
problem.  It does not!!

I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
Google email is stone age stuff !

Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd 
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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[MIKE LISH]

That is total nonsense. Then why make OO compatible with Microsoft docs!!


On 23 July 2013 13:07, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
 problem.  It does not!!

 I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
 Google email is stone age stuff !

 Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from
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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[Martin Groenescheij]

Google has no email client.
All it offers is a web interface to their email server.

OpenOffice need to find an email program e.g.. Thunderbird
So you need to wait till version 1 of the Google email client if that 
ever will come.



On 23/07/2013 9:26 PM, MIKE LISH wrote:

I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
problem.  It does not!!

I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
Google email is stone age stuff !

Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted??

Mike Lish




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Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade

[Graham Lauder]

On Tuesday 23 Jul 2013 12:26:26 MIKE LISH wrote:
 I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying
 problem.  It does not!!
 
 I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize
 Google email is stone age stuff !

In what way do you use OpenOffice with Email,  sending email documents or HTML 
emails has always worked with OO just a matter of knowing your smtp server 
details.  OO isn't a email client so it won't receive mail. Can you be more 
specific as to your needs please

Cheers
GL  


 
 Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted??
 
 Mike Lish

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re Open Office upgrade

[Des]

Hello 

my name is Desmond Hagarty

I downloaded the latest version of open office  I installed it but 
unfortunately the program would not open. 

My previous version is Open Office 3.3

I have a Macbook build 10KS49 Processor 2.13 GHz Intel core 2 Duo Memory 2 GB 
800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Can you please give me some advise so I can use the new version of Open Office

Thank You Desmond
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Re: re Open Office upgrade

[Kadal Amutham]

Hope you might have checked there is enough space for installation. (The
installation software generally checks for this) Generally the last screen
gives a report whether it has been successfully installed or there was an
error.

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480


On 7 June 2013 18:29, Des chi...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Hello

 my name is Desmond Hagarty

 I downloaded the latest version of open office  I installed it but
 unfortunately the program would not open.

 My previous version is Open Office 3.3

 I have a Macbook build 10KS49 Processor 2.13 GHz Intel core 2 Duo Memory 2
 GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

 Can you please give me some advise so I can use the new version of Open
 Office

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Re: re Open Office upgrade

[Steve Ahlers]

Desmond,

After opening the DMG did you drag the OO.org icon to the Application folder?

What version of OSX are you running? Click on the Apple Icon in the upper left 
corner, choose About This Mac, choose More Information to find out.
 
Steve Ahlers
sahlers...@yahoo.com



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 my name is Desmond Hagarty
 
 I downloaded the latest version of open office  I installed it but 
 unfortunately the program would not open. 
 
 My previous version is Open Office 3.3
 
 I have a Macbook build 10KS49 Processor 2.13 GHz Intel core 2 Duo Memory 2 GB 
 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
 
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