[users] Re: Registration?

2011-03-10 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/9/2011 4:30 PM, Guy Voets wrote:

You don't need to register. Just use the software...www.openoffice.org
Suppose it keeps some track of how many people use OOo
I am an old time user. I have registered every time I have fetched a new 
OO.o version, from www.openoffice.org starting with version 1.1 way 
back. The web site, when supported by SUN was inviting.


When I use the OO.oHelpRegister I am sent to an Oracle web site.. In 
creating an account there, the web site refuses to take any proffered 
password. I concluded that if they were that anal, they don't care and 
there might not be any need to register.


I want to support OO.o but that is not something I am willing to wade 
through.


--David




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[users] Re: Registration?

2011-03-10 Thread Guy Voets
2011/3/10 David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net:
snip
 I want to support OO.o but that is not something I am willing to wade
 through.

 --David

I suppose that's one of the reasons why I moved on to LibreOffice and
The Document Foundation (www.libreoffice.org)

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[users] Re: Updating Extensions Causes Crash

2011-03-10 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,


Manfred J. Krause wrote:
 
 
 amaloney wrote:
 
 Using Dev_DEV300m100_MacOS_x86 on Mac OS X 10.6.6
 
 If I add non-native extensions, restart OOoDev, then check for update to
 the
 extensions in Extension Manager, I get a crash.
 
 There is no crash when there are no non-native extensions installed and I
 try
 the updating.
 
 The Issue 115995 says that it is fixed.
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115995
 It is not fixed in m100.
 
 What does all this mean?
 
 
 Yes, I can confirm the continuing crash for DEV300_m100 on WinXP.
 The fix in CWS xmlfix3 seems to be integrated into dev300m100masterfix.
 But the fix is still not verified, and the issue isn't closed.
 Maybe, there's an update for CWS xmlfix3 in a further developer snapshot?
 We'll see...  ;)
 

CWS xmlfix3 has been integrated into OOo-dev 3.4.0 DEV300_m102 Build 9577.
See: http://development.openoffice.org/releases/DEV300m102_snapshot.html#cws
Extension Manager  Check for Updates works fine now (on WinXP).


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[users] Re: Registration?

2011-03-10 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/10/2011 7:58 AM, Guy Voets wrote:

I suppose that's one of the reasons why I moved on to LibreOffice and
The Document Foundation (www.libreoffice.org)

That's a different morass. No thanks.

Disk crash forced a reinstall of everything. I seriously considered LO.

It appears I need to fetch the LO installation file for Windows, then I 
need some support files ... or do I? The release notes (which I read 
carefully) only make clear I should remove OO.o before installing LO, 
but say little else.  Nothing is said about Java other than there is a 
glitch with Linux and a version of Java.


I don't like the OpenOffice.org download site either, but I am able to 
understand what needs to be done to fetch OO.o for my system, and how to 
leave out the out-dated version of Java that is included with the OO.o 
installer.


But what the heck do I do at Libreoffice's site?   I'm inclined to wait 
for the next iteration of OO.o or further less-than-benign moves from 
Oracle to replace OO.o with LO.


--David

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[users] Re: Selecting all text in a Writer document

2011-03-10 Thread Susan W. Dunn
Andy and Brian,

Thank you, thank you.  This is probably akin to leading a blind man, but
I appreciate it.  Hadn't thought about Master Documents, Andy.  Hadn't
even known of their existence.  As I said...leading a blind man...

Thanks, Brian for the instructions, though the second way sounds easier
as I've still not found a table cell in my Writer document.  

Susan

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[users] Re: How to make AutoFilter act more like Excel's Autofilter

2011-03-10 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2011-03-09 19:29:38 skrev Andy Graybeal andy.grayb...@casanueva.com:


Hello,
My organization is trying to move from MS Office to OpenOffice (or it  
might be read, I'm trying to convince everyone to move from MS Office to  
OpenOffice in an effort to move our business to use only open source  
software).


We're using OpenOffice 3.2.0 on Ubuntu 10.04.

One of my co-workers regularly uses Excel's (2003, if I remember  
correctly) Autofilter feature, and she has a different experience with  
OpenOffice's Autofilter.


Here are the steps taken in Excel:
* Select a row
* We go to: Data - Filter - Auto Filter
* Dropdown boxes appear for every column
	* We select an item from the dropdown box; this lists only the items  
that have been filtered, and it gives her the chance to make a subtotal  
in one of the empty row below the filter results.


Here are the steps taken in OpenOffice:
* Select a row
	* We go to: Data - Filter - Auto Filter, it informs and asks us that  
The range does not contain column headers. Do you want the first line  
to be a column header?  We select Yes from the dialog box.

* Dropdown boxes appear for every column
	* We make a selection from a dropdown box; this lists the filtered  
items and other information.  She doesn't get the chance to make a  
subtotal in an empty row below the filter results.


Can you help us approach the situation?  Should we be doing things  
differently?  What is a column header and would assigning this help us?


Thanks,
Andy



”…it gives her the chance to make a subtotal…”
Since I don't have Excel I would probably need to know exactly HOW this  
happens, to be able to answer the question. Is she asked in a dialogue box  
or what?


Anyway, subtotals are usually calculated with the SUBTOTAL() function, so  
she can always put it in a cell manually.


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[users] Installing OpenOffice.Org on Mac OSX

2011-03-10 Thread Martine Egan
I have a brand new iMac and have downloaded OpenOffice, which resulted in 6 
Download Icons on my Desktop, as follows:

OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.download
OOo_3.1.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.2.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.3.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg

I assume the 2nd icon is the result of an anomaly during the download process 
and should be ignored.

Nothing on your website warned me about receiving 5 different download files - 
is this to be expected?

What do I do next, and in what order?

Sorry for such basic questions, but I am new to Apple Macs and not experienced 
with computers generally...

Thank you in advance for your QUICK response.

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[users] transfer of spreadsheet files from Asus linux to Mac

2011-03-10 Thread James Moore
I want to transfer my .sdc files from Asus linux computer to mac open  
office spreadsheet.  I have already downloaded the program to my Mac.


 Please tell me how to do this.  I will be using a flash stick.  Thanks

James
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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread NoOp
On 03/09/2011 11:59 AM, Paul wrote:
...NoOp Wrote:

 While you're at it; it appears that posts (at least mine) are taking 4
 hours to appear:

 Subject: Re: Suspect mail
 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:46:06 -0800

 Original-Received: from mailout02.kenai.com ([192.9.171.175])
by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from users-ow...@openoffice.org)
id 1Px1YO-0007AI-Hc
for opof-us...@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:22:40 +0100

 Appears to be a list issue... should I also YAL for that as well?


 The delay is probably due to your address not being subscribed to the '
 users@openoffice.org' list. Email software, Sympa, sends an email to
 moderators to pass/fail each unsubscribed email address post. Once approved,
 email is distributed to subscribers ( gmane).
 
 Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I can't
 answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself as
 well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and based
 on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want to
 be subscribed I'll get it done.

No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
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2006), and 2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
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[users] Document extensions

2011-03-10 Thread Philip Griggs
I have transferred documents created in Open Office to my new computer. Their 
extensions are shown as follows:

.odt.tdl$

y.pdf.tdl$

When I try to open them in Open Office (ver 3.3) I get an inquiry window 
followed by a blank sheet with ASCI code at the heading. I assume the “tdl$g” 
is something tacked on with the copy function but renaming the document to 
“odt” gets the same result.

I just want to open the documents (many of them) as they were originated.

Please, can you help me? Is it possible?

Any advice will be appreciated.

Phil Griggs
pdg...@live.com

ps: I’m sorry but I find the Open Office web site very confusing and have no 
idea where a general usage inquiry should go. If this is not the address would 
you please redirect it – or let me know where to find it?
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[users] Re: Need help on licensing!

2011-03-10 Thread McLauchlan, Kevin
 But Company A is required to make the source of OOo AND the source of any 
derived application available, not only to Company B, but to everyone.  At 
least, I believe that was the case the last time I read such licences... 
admitedly some years ago.

That requirement needn't stop anybody who wants to make money by developing an 
existing open-source software (like OpenOffice) to serve a niche need - after 
all, Company B is obviously not interested in doing their own development 
work. However, the requirement to share the source of derived works does allow 
other people to see your work and either improve it or take it and just 
repackage, thus allowing them to compete with you, using your own work.   
Basically, in FLOSS environment, you can't have secret sauce proprietary code 
unless you make it stand-alone, self-contained, not based on the open-source 
code. Aside from shareware, the common way to make money with open-source 
applications is to pretty-much give the product away, and charge for 
service/support/integration instead.

 - k

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Lewis [mailto:elderdanle...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:00 PM
 To: users@openoffice.org
 Subject: [users] Re: Need help on licensing!
 
 On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 19:06 +0530, arnab.mi...@in.mediacontacts.com
 wrote:
  Hi 
  
  Thank you for going through this email. I have a basic 
 query: If some
  Company A customizes open office and make it a product with some
  other features and then gives the same to Company B, Can 
 Company A
  charge Company B for the same? if they could, on what basis? 
  
  It would be great, if you could respond to me asap. 
  
  look forward 
  
  
  Arnab Mitra - Regional
  Director - India  South Asia
[...]
  If you have OOo (Openoffice.org)[you refer to this as 
 open office]
 installed on a computer, it contains the license that applies 
 to it. The
 name of the file: license.html. You will find it located in a
 Openofice.org folder.
  If you read this license carefully, you will discover 
 that you can
 do what you are asking. The license also permits Company A to sell
 Openoffice.org to Company B without making any changes to the program.
 
 Dan
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[users] Re: Installing OpenOffice.Org on Mac OSX

2011-03-10 Thread Guy Voets
2011/3/10 Martine Egan martine.e...@talktalk.net:
 I have a brand new iMac and have downloaded OpenOffice, which resulted in 6 
 Download Icons on my Desktop, as follows:

 OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.download
 OOo_3.1.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.2.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.3.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg

 Martine Egan--

Hello Martine,

I don't know how you got 6 downloads all at once!
At the www.openoffice.org site, when you click on I want to
download,  a green download box appears and when you click again (you
can also find other language options and versions for operating
systems here), you are brought to a second window You are about to
download... while a dialog box is prepared where you can decide what
you want to do with the dmg file you are about to receive.
The first of the dmg's is the good one: 3.3.0 (3.1 and 3.2 are older
versions, 3.3.3 and 3.4 are future versions that have not reached
their final release and may contain (more) bugs than the official
present release, 3.3.0)
In the dialog box, choose Save File, and put it in your Download
folder or simply on your Desktop.
The dmg is now coming in, it takes a few minutes or more, depending on
your internet connection etc.
Once it's complete, you can double click on it, then in a Finder box
that appears showing the contents of the OOo 3.3 'disk' drag the OOo
icon to the Applications folder as proposed by the arrow. OOo is now
getting installed in your  Programs/Applications folder. Tou'll be
able to find its icon there (button with two seagulls. If you want to
have OOo easily accessible in your Dock, drag the icon to it.

Success and come back on the list with any other question.
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[users] Re: transfer of spreadsheet files from Asus linux to Mac

2011-03-10 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi James, 

On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:24:07 -0800
James Moore bearl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to transfer my .sdc files from Asus linux computer to mac open  
 office spreadsheet.  I have already downloaded the program to my Mac.
 
   Please tell me how to do this.  I will be using a flash stick.  Thanks

Nothing complicated. Just copy your files from your Linux computer to the flash 
(USB) stick and copy them again from the USB stick to your Mac. OOo can read 
the old StarOffice files. So you can then just go to File  Open and select 
the files you want to read/edit. 

HTH. 

Sigrid
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[users] Re: Installing OpenOffice.Org on Mac OSX

2011-03-10 Thread Dan Lewis
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 10:47 +, Martine Egan wrote:
 I have a brand new iMac and have downloaded OpenOffice, which resulted in 6 
 Download Icons on my Desktop, as follows:
 
 OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.download
 OOo_3.1.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.2.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.3.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
 
 I assume the 2nd icon is the result of an anomaly during the download process 
 and should be ignored.
 
 Nothing on your website warned me about receiving 5 different download files 
 - is this to be expected?
 
 What do I do next, and in what order?
 
 Sorry for such basic questions, but I am new to Apple Macs and not 
 experienced with computers generally...
 
 Thank you in advance for your QUICK response.
 
 Martine Egan--

 This seems like a very strange behavior. Where did you download
OpenOffice.org? (the correct full name) You should have gotten the
download from http://www.openoffice.org/. When you click on I want to
download Openoffice.org, an inline rectangle appears. Click Download
now. 
 First you need to check the size of each one of these. To be a full
version, the size should be approximately 160 MB. If any of these are
far less than this size, drag them to the Trash, and then empty the
Trash. The second one you listed probably fits into this category.
 If the size is correct, the first one is likely the correct one.
3.3.0 is the current stable version. 3.1.3 and 3.2.3 would be earlier
version (if they every existed). 3.3.3 does not exist, and 3.4.0 is not
scheduled for release until the end of the year to early next year.
 So, only the top two are numbered correctly. And as you stated, the
second one is likely only a partial file. I would drag the bottom five
icons to the Trash, and then empty the trash. 


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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Paul
[snip]

 
  Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I
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  answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself
 as
  well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and
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  on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want
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  be subscribed I'll get it done.

 No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
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 2006), and


Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened
before or after the list migration - have no idea. The old mail list
software had its issues (as does the new one) and I think doing random
things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I can
re-subscribe you if you wish.



 2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
 Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
 seems to have gone missing.


When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting moderated
posts was no long present. I think that it is just not a feature of the
software. I'll raise a question to the application owners and will forward
their response when its received.

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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 3/10/2011 3:13 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]


 Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I 
can't
 answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself 
as
 well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and 
based
 on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want 
to
 be subscribed I'll get it done.

No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
2006), and 



Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened before or after the 
list migration - have no idea. The old mail list software had its issues (as does the new one) and 
I think doing random things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I can 
re-subscribe you if you wish.


Another possibility is that enough messages bounced that it triggered the automatic unsubscribe -- 
that happened to me a while back even on the old system.




2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org 
mailto:users@openoffice.org
seems to have gone missing.


When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting moderated posts was no long 
present. I think that it is just not a feature of the software. I'll raise a question to the 
application owners and will forward their response when its received.


/paul


If the capability isn't there anymore, it seems that the moderator who gets a message from an 
unsubscribed user initiating a thread (or hijacking one!) needs to give the user enough info to 
follow the discussion via Nabble, Gmane, and/or the standard archive (wherever that is now, and 
assuming there's a Reply capability). Has anybody worked out such a procedure yet?


Another question is whether there is still a way to use a different account for actions using an 
indirect form, like the old listname-action-username=userisp@openoffice.org. If so, what is the 
syntax? As you know, that was very handy to avoid problems with munged addresses and so on.

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[users] Re: How to make AutoFilter act more like Excel's Autofilter

2011-03-10 Thread Andy Graybeal


”…it gives her the chance to make a subtotal…”
Since I don't have Excel I would probably need to know exactly HOW this
happens, to be able to answer the question. Is she asked in a dialogue
box or what?

Anyway, subtotals are usually calculated with the SUBTOTAL() function,
so she can always put it in a cell manually.



Johnny, thank you for the response.  There is no dialogue, she can click 
in the cell below the results and type in the function.


-Andy
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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread NoOp
On 03/10/2011 01:13 PM, Paul wrote:
 [snip]
 
 
  Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I
 can't
  answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself
 as
  well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and
 based
  on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want
 to
  be subscribed I'll get it done.

 No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
 unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
 2006), and
 
 
 Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened
 before or after the list migration - have no idea. The old mail list
 software had its issues (as does the new one) and I think doing random
 things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I can
 re-subscribe you if you wish.

I'm wondering... perhaps it is because I've always used nntp/gmane.org
instead of actually subscribing via email. If that is the case, then all
previous users that have done the same problem. Can you check to see if
this might be the case  if so get them to resolve? I really don't want
to the use email option unless there is a 'no-mail' setting.


 2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
 Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
 seems to have gone missing.


 When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting moderated
 posts was no long present. I think that it is just not a feature of the
 software. I'll raise a question to the application owners and will forward
 their response when its received.
 
 /paul

I noticed that a post with a [moderated] subject tag came through on
March 4 from Maurice Mercier. If all unsubscribed posts do this then
problem solved. How did that one get set?

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[users] Re: Updating Extensions Causes Crash

2011-03-10 Thread amaloney
Thank you Manfred
m102 has solved the problem for me.
It was a show stopper for me.

Al

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[users] Re: Installing OpenOffice.Org on Mac OSX

2011-03-10 Thread Larry Gusaas


On 2011/03/10 4:47 AM  Martine Egan wrote:

I have a brand new iMac and have downloaded OpenOffice, which resulted in 6 
Download Icons on my Desktop, as follows:

Where did you download from. Only download from http://www.openoffice.org/
If you downloaded elsewhere, which I suspect, delete all the files and download from the 
official site. It will only give you one .dmg file.


This list is suspect

OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.download
OOo_3.1.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.2.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.3.3_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
There is no OOo 3.3.3 or OOo 3.4.0 yet. There are development snapshots but they do not have 
the names listed.



Nothing on your website warned me about receiving 5 different download files - 
is this to be expected?

No it is not to be expected


What do I do next, and in what order?

Delete all the files you downloaded and download from http://www.openoffice.org/

The current version is OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg


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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2011/03/10 3:13 PM  Paul wrote:


No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
2006), and 



Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened before or after 
the list migration - have no idea. The old mail list software had its issues (as does the new 
one) and I think doing random things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the 
case). I can re-subscribe you if you wish.

NoOp is posting through gmane. See header X-Injected-Via-Gmane: 
http://gmane.org/;

I also post through gmane. There are long delays before my posts make it to the list and I get 
an email stating Your message for list users has been forwarded to editor(s).


It seems the list is no longer accepted posts from gmane. I am subscribed to 
gmane.comp.openoffice.questions, not to users@openoffice.org.




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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Keith N. McKenna

NoOp wrote:

On 03/09/2011 11:59 AM, Paul wrote:
...NoOp Wrote:


While you're at it; it appears that posts (at least mine) are taking 4
hours to appear:

Subject: Re: Suspect mail
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:46:06 -0800

Original-Received: from mailout02.kenai.com ([192.9.171.175])
by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-fromusers-ow...@openoffice.org)
id 1Px1YO-0007AI-Hc
for opof-us...@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:22:40 +0100

Appears to be a list issue... should I also YAL for that as well?



The delay is probably due to your address not being subscribed to the '
users@openoffice.org' list. Email software, Sympa, sends an email to
moderators to pass/fail each unsubscribed email address post. Once approved,
email is distributed to subscribers (  gmane).

Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I can't
answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself as
well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and based
on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want to
be subscribed I'll get it done.


No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
2006), and 2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
seems to have gone missing.

--

NoOp;

 Just a possibility, but as I remember correctly you read and post 
through Gmane as I do. Could it be that the change affected those of us 
that post that way? If this post ends up having to be moderated it could 
strengthen the supposition. All told not one of the smoother software 
transitions I have been through and I have been through a few in my 
career. Hope it gets straightened out soon.


Regards
Keith

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[users] Message distribution

2011-03-10 Thread Larry Gusaas

Why do I keep getting this message when I post to 
gmane.comp.openoffice.questions ?
This has been happening since you transferred to Kenai.

   From: SYMPA sy...@openoffice.org
   To: larxxx@xx
   Subject: Message distribution
   Your message for list users has been forwarded to editor(s)


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[users] Changing email address

2011-03-10 Thread FRED FUCHS

I apologize for sending this message here to everyone, but I've been trying for 
several days, and can't figure out any other way to do this.  
 
I'm changing email addresses and have tried to subscribe with the new email 
address at http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html, but nothing happens.
 
So, I requested and received the user guide from sympa [sy...@openoffice.org].  
I've tried several commands, but I'm obviously not doing it correctly, because 
they all fail.  
 
I think I should use SUBscribe list name in the subject?   However, I don't 
know what the correct list and name would be.  I'd like to receive the digest 
form.  What I receive now comes from users-requ...@openoffice.org.
 
Can someone please tell me how to subscribe to the digest version with my new 
address?  
 
Thank you very much.  
 
Dottie
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[users] Re: Changing email address

2011-03-10 Thread Paul
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:55 PM, FRED FUCHS sandhil...@msn.com wrote:

  I apologize for sending this message here to everyone, but I've been
 trying for several days, and can't figure out any other way to do this.



 I'm changing email addresses and have tried to subscribe with the new email
 address at http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html, but nothing happens.



 So, I requested and received the user guide from sympa [
 sy...@openoffice.org].  I've tried several commands, but I'm obviously not
 doing it correctly, because they all fail.



 I think I should use SUBscribe list name in the subject?   However, I
 don't know what the correct list and name would be.  I'd like to receive
 the digest form.  What I receive now comes from
 users-requ...@openoffice.org.




Commands to Sympa are put in the body of the email. Send  LIS to
sy...@openoffice.org and you'll get a list of email lists.
eg, To subscribe to the users list, send the following to
sy...@openoffice.org
sub users dottie



 Can someone please tell me how to subscribe to the digest version with my
 new address?


The following commands can then be put into the body of an email to
sy...@openoffice.org to alter your subscription once subscribed:

SET list|* DIGEST * Message reception in compilation mode
 SET list|* DIGESTPLAIN* Message reception in compilation mode,
sent as a plain text email with all attachments

Please advise if you have any queries.

/paul
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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Paul
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 03/10/2011 01:13 PM, Paul wrote:
  [snip]
 
  
   Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I
  can't
   answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that
 yourself
  as
   well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and
  based
   on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you
 want
  to
   be subscribed I'll get it done.
 
  No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
  unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
  2006), and
 
 
  Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this
 happened
  before or after the list migration - have no idea. The old mail list
  software had its issues (as does the new one) and I think doing random
  things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I
 can
  re-subscribe you if you wish.

 I'm wondering... perhaps it is because I've always used nntp/gmane.org
 instead of actually subscribing via email. If that is the case, then all
 previous users that have done the same problem. Can you check to see if
 this might be the case  if so get them to resolve? I really don't want
 to the use email option unless there is a 'no-mail' setting.


Agree ... I think these 'non-email' subscriptions were not carefully thought
through in the migration. There is a 'no-mail' option in Sympa using the
following command (once subscribed):

SET list|* NOMAIL * To suspend the message reception for
list




  2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
  Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
  seems to have gone missing.
 
 
  When we changed to Sympa I also noticed that the header denoting
 moderated
  posts was no long present. I think that it is just not a feature of the
  software. I'll raise a question to the application owners and will
 forward
  their response when its received.
 
  /paul

 I noticed that a post with a [moderated] subject tag came through on
 March 4 from Maurice Mercier. If all unsubscribed posts do this then
 problem solved. How did that one get set?


This tag is not consistently applied.


/paul
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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Paul
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Keith N. McKenna 
keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:

 NoOp wrote:

 On 03/09/2011 11:59 AM, Paul wrote:
 ...NoOp Wrote:

  While you're at it; it appears that posts (at least mine) are taking 4
 hours to appear:

 Subject: Re: Suspect mail
 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:46:06 -0800

 Original-Received: from mailout02.kenai.com ([192.9.171.175])
by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-fromusers-ow...@openoffice.org)
id 1Px1YO-0007AI-Hc
for opof-us...@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:22:40 +0100

 Appears to be a list issue... should I also YAL for that as well?


  The delay is probably due to your address not being subscribed to the '
 users@openoffice.org' list. Email software, Sympa, sends an email to
 moderators to pass/fail each unsubscribed email address post. Once
 approved,
 email is distributed to subscribers (  gmane).

 Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I
 can't
 answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself
 as
 well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and
 based
 on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want
 to
 be subscribed I'll get it done.


 No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
 unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here since
 2006), and 2) how does one determine if someone is subscribed or not?
 Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org
 seems to have gone missing.

 --

 NoOp;

 Just a possibility, but as I remember correctly you read and post
 through Gmane as I do. Could it be that the change affected those of us that
 post that way? If this post ends up having to be moderated it could
 strengthen the supposition. All told not one of the smoother software
 transitions I have been through and I have been through a few in my career.
 Hope it gets straightened out soon.

 Regards
 Keith


This post was moderated and I can confirm that you email address is not
currently subscribed to the users mail list. Do you want to subscribe then
apply the following command:

SET list|* NOMAIL * To suspend the message reception for
list


/paul
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[users] Re: [Oracle lists + kenai.com] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-10 Thread Paul
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2011/03/10 3:13 PM  Paul wrote:


No rant, but a few questions: 1) just how did I manage to get
unsubscribed from this list (I've been subscribed and posting here
 since
2006), and

 Have no idea about how the un-subscription happened. Whether this happened
 before or after the list migration - have no idea. The old mail list
 software had its issues (as does the new one) and I think doing random
 things was one of them (although I agree this should not be the case). I can
 re-subscribe you if you wish.

 NoOp is posting through gmane. See header X-Injected-Via-Gmane:
 http://gmane.org/;

 I also post through gmane. There are long delays before my posts make it to
 the list and I get an email stating Your message for list users has been
 forwarded to editor(s).

 It seems the list is no longer accepted posts from gmane. I am subscribed
 to gmane.comp.openoffice.questions, not to users@openoffice.org.



Which I'm tending to agree is the common thread here and seems to be the
problem. When sent from gmane, your actual address is passed through which
the email list doesn't recognise... As per recent posts to this list, you
can follow the 'subscribe' then 'no mail' option to avoid this.

At this point this solution is only a suggestion till someone tries it and
confirms that it works as advertised.

/paul
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[users] Re: OO Calc Year auto-input feature

2011-03-10 Thread Brian Barker

At 23:49 09/03/2011 -0500, Robert Jackson wrote:
I enjoyed the OO Calc Year auto-input feature, whereby Mar 9 
[ENTER] becomes Mar 9, 2011 (assumes the current year).  However, 
after upgrading to OO 3.2.1, this feature no longer works, and Mar 
9 [ENTER] now becomes Mar 1, 2009.   In general, mmm dd 
translates to 01-mmm-dd in the DDMMYY  form. So the Month is 
retained, but the day as entered is translated to the last 2 digits 
of the YY and the DD becomes 01.


I am using Win XP Professional Ver 5.1 SP3. Do Windows Regional and 
Language Options play any part in this?


Very probably.  In addition, there are OpenOffice's own locale 
settings at Tools | Options... | Language Settings | Languages.


Try 9 Mar instead of Mar 9: that works for me (3.1.1 under 
Windows XP with UK settings).  Also try 9/3 or 3/9 as appropriate 
- according to your locale.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

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