Re: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-20 Thread Niranjan Rao
Are you using FileInputStream or FileOutputSteam on the file and closing 
the stream before deletion? If so, change to Files.newInputSteam or 
Files.newOutputStream.


One of our application (not a web application) was running out of file 
handles even though we were closing the file handles. Everything was in 
try block and we did verify the handles were closed as far our code was 
concerned. It turned out that JVM does not close the actual handles 
until late in the game. There is a bug on openjdk bugs tracker that 
discusses this. After using Files, our issue was resolved.


If you are closing the file and JVM is not releasing the handles, this 
sounds very similar to the issue we faced.



Regards,


Niranjan


On 10/8/22 09:36, Martin Moore wrote:
Hello, I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that 
deletes (using file. delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The 
file is actually deleting only on application level meaning that the 
application does not see the file anymore

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Hello,

I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes (using
file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is actually
deleting only on application level meaning that the application does not
see the file anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file which is
then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed physically
when i close the Tomcat instance.

Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
How to solve this?

AW: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
Hello,

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Martin Moore 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 17:59
> An: Tomcat Users List 
> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> 
> @thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid
>   how to use the debugger in
> this case ?any documentation pls ?

For debugging you need the sources. Either you have a development environment 
where you start debugging.
Alternatively you can open a JMX port and do remote debugging (e.g. with 
eclipse)
Details about remote debugging are e.g. 
https://stackify.com/java-remote-debugging/ 

I don’t think that there a libs or something else missing. As you see an open 
file handle, the next step is to
figure out which part of the program is causing the left open file handle.


> @Rob Sargent i posted most of the methods used in the app, but yes JVM is
> holding off on deleting the file...
> 
> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 17:31, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>  a écrit :
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > > About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete()
> > (which is
> > > what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
> > > File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
> > > file.getName();
> > > file.lastModified()
> > > Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
> > > Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?
> >
> > They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the
> > debugger to go step by step.
> > In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file
> > handle appears.
> > Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a
> > MappedByteBuffer to read or write.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > >  a écrit :
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> > > > > An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> > > > > 
> > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > >
> > > > > the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the
> > > > > file and
> > > > this
> > > > > only after actually performing the delete from Java.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Some possibilities for file locking.
> > > > - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> > > > - You use http2 and sendfile
> > > > - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> > > > https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
> > > >
> > > > ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
> > > >
> > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > > > >  a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > > > > > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the
> > > > > > file lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there
> > > > > > is an open file handle on this file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > > > > > An: Tomcat Users List ;
> > > > > > > ma...@apache.org
> > > > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Mark,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how
> > > > > > > to disable it
> > > > > > > btw?)
> > > > > > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > > > > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > > > > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas 
> > > > 

Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Moore
@Rob  this is the command:   %CATALINA_HOME%\bin\startup.bat


Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 21:30, Rob Sargent  a écrit :

>
>
> > On Oct 9, 2022, at 8:54 AM, Martin Moore 
> wrote:
> >
> > @thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid
> >   how to use the debugger in
> this
> > case ?any documentation pls ?
> > @Rob Sargent i posted most of the methods used in the app, but yes JVM is
> > holding off on deleting the file...
>
> I think this might be a config issue. What is the full Java command with
> variables expanded
>
> >
> >> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 17:31, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> >>  a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>> About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete()
> >> (which is
> >>> what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
> >>> File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
> >>> file.getName();
> >>> file.lastModified()
> >>> Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
> >>> Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?
> >>
> >> They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the debugger
> >> to go step by step.
> >> In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file
> handle
> >> appears.
> >> Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a
> >> MappedByteBuffer to read or write.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> >>>  a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>>>> Von: Martin Moore 
> >>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> >>>>> An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file
> >>>>> and
> >>>> this
> >>>>> only after actually performing the delete from Java.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Some possibilities for file locking.
> >>>> - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> >>>> - You use http2 and sendfile
> >>>> - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> >>>> https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
> >>>>
> >>>> ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> >>>>>  a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>> this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> >>>>>> If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
> >>>>>> lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is
> >>>>>> an open file handle on this file.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>>>>>> Von: Martin Moore 
> >>>>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> >>>>>>> An: Tomcat Users List ;
> >>>>>>> ma...@apache.org
> >>>>>>> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Mark,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
> >>>>>>> disable it
> >>>>>>> btw?)
> >>>>>>> I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> >>>>>>> Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> >>>>>>> Desktop/SomeFolder
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a
> >>>>>>> écrit
> >>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>

Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Rob Sargent



> On Oct 9, 2022, at 8:54 AM, Martin Moore  wrote:
> 
> @thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid
>   how to use the debugger in this
> case ?any documentation pls ?
> @Rob Sargent i posted most of the methods used in the app, but yes JVM is
> holding off on deleting the file...

I think this might be a config issue. What is the full Java command with 
variables expanded

> 
>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 17:31, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>>> About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete()
>> (which is
>>> what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
>>> File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
>>> file.getName();
>>> file.lastModified()
>>> Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
>>> Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?
>> 
>> They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the debugger
>> to go step by step.
>> In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file handle
>> appears.
>> Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a
>> MappedByteBuffer to read or write.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>>>  a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>>> Von: Martin Moore 
>>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
>>>>> An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
>>>>> 
>>>>> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
>>>>> 
>>>>> the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file
>>>>> and
>>>> this
>>>>> only after actually performing the delete from Java.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Some possibilities for file locking.
>>>> - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
>>>> - You use http2 and sendfile
>>>> - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
>>>> 
>>>> ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
>>>> 
>>>>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>>>>>  a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
>>>>>> If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
>>>>>> lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is
>>>>>> an open file handle on this file.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>>>>> Von: Martin Moore 
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
>>>>>>> An: Tomcat Users List ;
>>>>>>> ma...@apache.org
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
>>>>>>> disable it
>>>>>>> btw?)
>>>>>>> I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
>>>>>>> Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
>>>>>>> Desktop/SomeFolder
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a
>>>>>>> écrit
>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that
>>>>>>>>> deletes
>>>>>>>> (using
>>>>>>>>> file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file
>>>>>>>>> is actually deleting only on application level meaning that
>>>>>>>>> the application does not see the file anymore but if i open
>>>>>>>>> the folder i still see the file which
>>>>>>>> is
>&g

Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Moore
@thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid
  how to use the debugger in this
case ?any documentation pls ?
@Rob Sargent i posted most of the methods used in the app, but yes JVM is
holding off on deleting the file...

Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 17:31, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
 a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> > About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete()
> (which is
> > what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
> > File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
> > file.getName();
> > file.lastModified()
> > Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
> > Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?
>
> They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the debugger
> to go step by step.
> In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file handle
> appears.
> Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a
> MappedByteBuffer to read or write.
>
>
> >
> > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> >  a écrit :
> >
> > >
> > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> > > > An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> > > > 
> > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > >
> > > > the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file
> > > > and
> > > this
> > > > only after actually performing the delete from Java.
> > >
> > >
> > > Some possibilities for file locking.
> > > - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> > > - You use http2 and sendfile
> > > - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> > > https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
> > >
> > > ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
> > >
> > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > > >  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > > > > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
> > > > > lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is
> > > > > an open file handle on this file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > > > > An: Tomcat Users List ;
> > > > > > ma...@apache.org
> > > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Mark,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
> > > > > > disable it
> > > > > > btw?)
> > > > > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > > > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > > > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a
> > > > > > écrit
> > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that
> > > > > > > > deletes
> > > > > > > (using
> > > > > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file
> > > > > > > > is actually deleting only on application level meaning that
> > > > > > > > the application does not see the file anymore but if i open
> > > > > > > > the folder i still see the file which
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be
> > > > > > > > removed physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalin

Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Rob Sargent



> On Oct 8, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Martin Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes (using
> file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is actually
> deleting only on application level meaning that the application does not
> see the file anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file which is
> then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed physically
> when i close the Tomcat instance.
> 
> Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> How to solve this?

This has a familiar ring to it.  Can we see your entire java command (minus 
secrets) and any environment variables which have a capital X.  I suspect the 
JVM is holding off on deleting the file until exit and IIRC there’s a setting 
for that.  But it has been a while since I dealt with this.



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AW: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
Hello,
 
> About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete() (which is
> what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
> File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
> file.getName();
> file.lastModified()
> Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
> Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?

They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the debugger to go 
step by step.
In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file handle 
appears.
Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a 
MappedByteBuffer to read or write.


> 
> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>  a écrit :
> 
> >
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> > > An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> > > 
> > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > >
> > > the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file
> > > and
> > this
> > > only after actually performing the delete from Java.
> >
> >
> > Some possibilities for file locking.
> > - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> > - You use http2 and sendfile
> > - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> > https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
> >
> > ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
> >
> > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > >  a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > > > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
> > > > lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is
> > > > an open file handle on this file.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > > > An: Tomcat Users List ;
> > > > > ma...@apache.org
> > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Mark,
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
> > > > > disable it
> > > > > btw?)
> > > > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a
> > > > > écrit
> > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that
> > > > > > > deletes
> > > > > > (using
> > > > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file
> > > > > > > is actually deleting only on application level meaning that
> > > > > > > the application does not see the file anymore but if i open
> > > > > > > the folder i still see the file which
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be
> > > > > > > removed physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unlikely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How to solve this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly,
> > > > > > are CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark
> > > > > >
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Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Moore
About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete() (which
is what this post is about)
I use File[] files = new File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
file.getName();
file.lastModified()
Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?

Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
 a écrit :

>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Martin Moore 
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> > An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> > 
> > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> >
> > the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file and
> this
> > only after actually performing the delete from Java.
>
>
> Some possibilities for file locking.
> - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> - You use http2 and sendfile
> - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
>
> ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
>
> > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> >  a écrit :
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
> > > lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> > >
> > > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is an
> > > open file handle on this file.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > > An: Tomcat Users List ; ma...@apache.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > >
> > > > Hello Mark,
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
> > > > disable it
> > > > btw?)
> > > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit
> :
> > > >
> > > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that
> > > > > > deletes
> > > > > (using
> > > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is
> > > > > > actually deleting only on application level meaning that the
> > > > > > application does not see the file anymore but if i open the
> > > > > > folder i still see the file which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed
> > > > > > physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Unlikely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > > > >
> > > > > > How to solve this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> > > > > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
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2022-10-09 Thread Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Martin Moore 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> 
> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> 
> the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file and this
> only after actually performing the delete from Java.


Some possibilities for file locking.
- the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
- You use http2 and sendfile
- You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion: 
https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038

... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
 
> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>  a écrit :
> 
> > Hello,
> > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file
> > lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> >
> > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is an
> > open file handle on this file.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Thomas
> >
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > An: Tomcat Users List ; ma...@apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > >
> > > Hello Mark,
> > >
> > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to
> > > disable it
> > > btw?)
> > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit :
> > >
> > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that
> > > > > deletes
> > > > (using
> > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is
> > > > > actually deleting only on application level meaning that the
> > > > > application does not see the file anymore but if i open the
> > > > > folder i still see the file which
> > > > is
> > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed
> > > > > physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > > >
> > > > Unlikely.
> > > >
> > > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > > >
> > > > > How to solve this?
> > > >
> > > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> > > > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
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Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Suvendu Sekhar Mondal
Hello Martin,

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:03 PM Martin Moore  wrote:
>
> the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file and
> this only after actually performing the delete from Java.
>
Sometimes Logstash gives me trouble like this.

Most probably some part of the app was still holding reference to the
file. Can you please ensure your app is closing all input/output
streams after using them to access the file?

> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
>  a écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file lock is
> > released, the file is physically deleted.
> >
> > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is an open
> > file handle on this file.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Thomas
> >
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: Martin Moore 
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > An: Tomcat Users List ; ma...@apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > >
> > > Hello Mark,
> > >
> > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to disable it
> > > btw?)
> > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/
> > > The files in question are stored in Desktop/SomeFolder
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit :
> > >
> > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes
> > > > (using
> > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is
> > > > > actually deleting only on application level meaning that the
> > > > > application does not see the file anymore but if i open the folder i
> > > > > still see the file which
> > > > is
> > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed
> > > > > physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > > >
> > > > Unlikely.
> > > >
> > > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > > >
> > > > > How to solve this?
> > > >
> > > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> > > > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
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Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Moore
the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the file and
this only after actually performing the delete from Java.

Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
 a écrit :

> Hello,
> this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file lock is
> released, the file is physically deleted.
>
> Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is an open
> file handle on this file.
>
> Greetings,
> Thomas
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Martin Moore 
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > An: Tomcat Users List ; ma...@apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> >
> > Hello Mark,
> >
> > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to disable it
> > btw?)
> > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/
> > The files in question are stored in Desktop/SomeFolder
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit :
> >
> > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes
> > > (using
> > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is
> > > > actually deleting only on application level meaning that the
> > > > application does not see the file anymore but if i open the folder i
> > > > still see the file which
> > > is
> > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed
> > > > physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > >
> > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > >
> > > Unlikely.
> > >
> > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > >
> > > > How to solve this?
> > >
> > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> > > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
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AW: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
Hello,
this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the file lock is 
released, the file is physically deleted.

Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there is an open file 
handle on this file.

Greetings,
Thomas

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Martin Moore 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> An: Tomcat Users List ; ma...@apache.org
> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to disable it
> btw?)
> I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/
> The files in question are stored in Desktop/SomeFolder
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit :
> 
> > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes
> > (using
> > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is
> > > actually deleting only on application level meaning that the
> > > application does not see the file anymore but if i open the folder i
> > > still see the file which
> > is
> > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed
> > > physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > >
> > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> >
> > Unlikely.
> >
> > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> >
> > > How to solve this?
> >
> > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> >
> > Mark
> >
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Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-09 Thread Martin Moore
Hello Mark,

I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how to disable it
btw?)
I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/
The files in question are stored in Desktop/SomeFolder

Thanks.

Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas  a écrit :

> On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes
> (using
> > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is actually
> > deleting only on application level meaning that the application does not
> > see the file anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file which
> is
> > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed physically
> > when i close the Tomcat instance.
> >
> > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
>
> Unlikely.
>
> Are you using a SecurityManager?
>
> > How to solve this?
>
> Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are
> CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
>
> Mark
>
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Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-08 Thread Mark Thomas

On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:

Hello,

I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes (using
file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is actually
deleting only on application level meaning that the application does not
see the file anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file which is
then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed physically
when i close the Tomcat instance.

Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?


Unlikely.

Are you using a SecurityManager?


How to solve this?


Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where, exactly, are 
CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?


Mark

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About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM

2022-10-08 Thread Martin Moore
Hello,

I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app that deletes (using
file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The file is actually
deleting only on application level meaning that the application does not
see the file anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file which is
then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be removed physically
when i close the Tomcat instance.

Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
How to solve this?


RE: How to configure Tomcat 8.5.x to run in with a different windows service user, and what are minimum permissions

2022-06-22 Thread paul.leo
After a quick meeting with client this may be a moot point.
On this page:
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.5-doc/windows-service-howto.html
I  saw command line references (and as I'm reviewing, it's becoming more
clear that I'm not understanding use)  for:

-User   User account used for running executable. It is used only
for StartMode java or exe and enables running applications as service under
account without LogonAsService privilege.
--Password  Password for user account set by --User parameter

It looks like this is when you install the service.
I was thinking that I would have to specify password somewhere.  I don't
think that's the case.

Sorry to be a little misinformed.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas  
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 10:33 AM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to configure Tomcat 8.5.x to run in with a different
windows service user, and what are minimum permissions

On 22/06/2022 17:02, paul@stgconsulting.com wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I been tasked with researching options for running Tomcat 8.5.x as a 
> windows service, but with a different user.
> 
> I need to know what minimum rights for user would be, and also how to 
> pass user & password.  I think I see how to pass user and password.  I 
> don't see how to encrypt password though.
> 
> Other options would be appreciated as well.

Any reason running as the default (assuming a recent Tomcat version)
LocalService isn't sufficiently secure?

The minimum permissions would depend on the app but off the top of my head
that will be at least:
- file permissions as documented in the security guide
- run as service
- network access

Exactly where are you looking to encrypt the password?

Mark

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Re: How to configure Tomcat 8.5.x to run in with a different windows service user, and what are minimum permissions

2022-06-22 Thread Mark Thomas

On 22/06/2022 17:02, paul@stgconsulting.com wrote:

Hello all,

I been tasked with researching options for running Tomcat 8.5.x as a windows
service, but with a different user.

I need to know what minimum rights for user would be, and also how to pass
user & password.  I think I see how to pass user and password.  I don't see
how to encrypt password though.

Other options would be appreciated as well.


Any reason running as the default (assuming a recent Tomcat version) 
LocalService isn't sufficiently secure?


The minimum permissions would depend on the app but off the top of my 
head that will be at least:

- file permissions as documented in the security guide
- run as service
- network access

Exactly where are you looking to encrypt the password?

Mark

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How to configure Tomcat 8.5.x to run in with a different windows service user, and what are minimum permissions

2022-06-22 Thread paul.leo
Hello all,

 

I been tasked with researching options for running Tomcat 8.5.x as a windows
service, but with a different user.  

I need to know what minimum rights for user would be, and also how to pass
user & password.  I think I see how to pass user and password.  I don't see
how to encrypt password though.

Other options would be appreciated as well.

 

Best,

Paul



Re: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2017-11-24 15:53 GMT+03:00 Rune Rustand <run...@gmail.com>:
> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23
> Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4  (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
>
>
>
> Binary distributions tar archive
>
> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and are using
> the core archive. The process is done by running a puppet script that
> extracts the tar archive on all the servers (many).
>
> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions differ from
> the tar archive and the zip archive?
> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and directories are
> not set for all users.
>
> I unpack the archive like this:
> tar zxvpf apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
>
> examples of file and directories permissons are:
> [runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l
> total 96
> drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Nov 24 08:46 bin
> drwx--. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 12:31 conf
> drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Nov 24 08:46 lib
> -rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 57092 Sep 28 12:31 LICENSE
> drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 12:30 logs
> -rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  1723 Sep 28 12:31 NOTICE
> -rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  7064 Sep 28 12:31 RELEASE-NOTES
> -rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 15946 Sep 28 12:31 RUNNING.txt
> drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus29 Nov 24 08:46 temp
> drwxr-x---. 7 runrus runrus76 Sep 28 12:30 webapps
> drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 12:30 work

[...]

> For the zip file:
> unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
>
> [runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l
> total 104
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 bin
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 conf
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 lib
> -rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 58153 Sep 28 11:31 LICENSE
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 11:30 logs
> -rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  1774 Sep 28 11:31 NOTICE
> -rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  7241 Sep 28 11:31 RELEASE-NOTES
> -rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 16416 Sep 28 11:31 RUNNING.txt
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus29 Sep 28 11:31 temp
> drwxr-xr-x. 7 runrus runrus76 Sep 28 11:31 webapps
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 11:30 work

Set `umask 0027` before unzipping.

The 'conf' directory, the logs, and serialized sessions in 'work' are
likely to contain confidential data and should not be world-readable.
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.5-doc/security-howto.html#Non-Tomcat_settings


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: AW: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Thomas,

On 11/24/17 9:10 AM, Thomas Rohde wrote:
> -Original message- From: Christopher Schultz
> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> Sent: Friday 24th November 2017
> 14:46 To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: AW: File and
> directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive
> 
> 
> Thomas,
> 
> On 11/24/17 8:39 AM, Thomas Rohde wrote:
> 
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christopher Schultz 
>> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. 
>> November 2017 14:21 An: users@tomcat.apache.org Betreff: Re:
>> File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive
> 
>> Rune,
> 
>> On 11/24/17 7:53 AM, Rune Rustand wrote:
>>> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23 Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4 
>>> (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
> 
> 
> 
>>> Binary distributions tar archive
> 
>>> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5,
>>> and are using the core archive. The process is done by running
>>> a puppet script that extracts the tar archive on all the
>>> servers (many).
> 
>>> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions 
>>> differ from the tar archive and the zip archive?
> 
>> Good question. Evidently, both Info-Zip (the 'unzip' program 
>> usually found on *NIX-based systems) and Apache Ant understand
>> the Info-Zip-specified extension to the ZIP format that encodes
>> file permissions and both ought to respect them when both packing
>> and unpacking the archive[1].
> 
>> I don't know enough about the ZIP file format to be able to
>> inspect the archive to determine what's actually stored in there
>> (to determine if the archive lacks the permissions or if the
>> extraction process is at fault).
> 
>>> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and 
>>> directories are not set for all users.
> 
>>> I unpack the archive like this: tar zxvpf 
>>> apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
> 
>>> [snip]
> 
>>> For the zip file: unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
> 
>>> [snip]
> 
>> Hmm. Those definitely *should be* producing the same file 
>> permissions... at least, I'd expect them to produce the same
>> file permissions.
> 
>> I don't see any (missing) options to Apache ant's  task
>> that look like they would strip those file permissions. I also
>> don't see any options for (Info-Zip) unzip that would be required
>> to restore such permissions.
> 
>> IMHO, this should Just Work.
> 
>> -chris
> 
>> [1]
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)#Implementation
> 
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>> 
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> 
>> While turning around the same issue this week I compared a 
>> apache-tomcat-8.5.14.tar.gz and an apache-tomcat-8.0.17.tar.gz.
> 
>> The permissions differ.
> 
>> With 8.0.17 files have rw-r--r-- and with 8.5.14 files have 
>> rw-r-
> 
>> With 8.0.17 directories (e.g. webapps) have rwxr-xr-x and with 
>> 8.5.14 they have rwxr-x---
> 
>> This means others have no permissions in current Tomcat versions
>> by default.
> 
>> I found that in the changelog of 8.5.0: Tighten up the default
>> file permissions for the .tar.gz distribution so no files or
>> directories are world readable by default. Configure Tomcat to
>> run with a default umask of 0027 which may be overridden by
>> setting UMASK in setenv.sh. (markt)
> 
>> So I think it works like expected.
> 
> This is a comparison of file permissions coming from tar archives 
> versus *zip* archives, not a comparison of file permissions coming 
> from (only) tar archives from two different Tomcat versions.
> 
> -chris
> 
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> I know. I presumed that ZIP don't carry any file permission.

So you didn't read my reply, then.

> While extracting a zip file you get the permissions depending on
> your umask.

What makes you think that the umask doesn't apply the same way to
files extracted from a zip file versus a tar file?

> And that's the reason why the file permissions of an extracted zip
> and and extracted tar differ.

I don't think so.

> The differences with Tomcat 8.0

RE: AW: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Thomas Rohde
Chris,



-Original message-
From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
Sent: Friday 24th November 2017 14:46
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: AW: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive


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On 11/24/17 8:39 AM, Thomas Rohde wrote:
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christopher Schultz
> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 24.
> November 2017 14:21 An: users@tomcat.apache.org Betreff: Re: File
> and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive
> 
> Rune,
> 
> On 11/24/17 7:53 AM, Rune Rustand wrote:
>> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23 Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4 
>> (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
> 
> 
> 
>> Binary distributions tar archive
> 
>> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and
>> are using the core archive. The process is done by running a
>> puppet script that extracts the tar archive on all the servers
>> (many).
> 
>> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions
>> differ from the tar archive and the zip archive?
> 
> Good question. Evidently, both Info-Zip (the 'unzip' program
> usually found on *NIX-based systems) and Apache Ant understand the
> Info-Zip-specified extension to the ZIP format that encodes file
> permissions and both ought to respect them when both packing and
> unpacking the archive[1].
> 
> I don't know enough about the ZIP file format to be able to inspect
> the archive to determine what's actually stored in there (to
> determine if the archive lacks the permissions or if the extraction
> process is at fault).
> 
>> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and
>> directories are not set for all users.
> 
>> I unpack the archive like this: tar zxvpf
>> apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
> 
>> [snip]
> 
>> For the zip file: unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
> 
>> [snip]
> 
> Hmm. Those definitely *should be* producing the same file
> permissions... at least, I'd expect them to produce the same file
> permissions.
> 
> I don't see any (missing) options to Apache ant's  task that
> look like they would strip those file permissions. I also don't see
> any options for (Info-Zip) unzip that would be required to restore
> such permissions.
> 
> IMHO, this should Just Work.
> 
> -chris
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)#Implementation
> 
> -
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> 
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> 
> While turning around the same issue this week I compared a
> apache-tomcat-8.5.14.tar.gz and an apache-tomcat-8.0.17.tar.gz.
> 
> The permissions differ.
> 
> With 8.0.17 files have rw-r--r-- and with 8.5.14 files have
> rw-r-
> 
> With 8.0.17 directories (e.g. webapps) have rwxr-xr-x and with
> 8.5.14 they have rwxr-x---
> 
> This means others have no permissions in current Tomcat versions by
> default.
> 
> I found that in the changelog of 8.5.0: Tighten up the default file
> permissions for the .tar.gz distribution so no files or directories
> are world readable by default. Configure Tomcat to run with a
> default umask of 0027 which may be overridden by setting UMASK in
> setenv.sh. (markt)
> 
> So I think it works like expected.

This is a comparison of file permissions coming from tar archives
versus *zip* archives, not a comparison of file permissions coming
from (only) tar archives from two different Tomcat versions.

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Re: AW: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Thomas,

On 11/24/17 8:39 AM, Thomas Rohde wrote:
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christopher Schultz
> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 24.
> November 2017 14:21 An: users@tomcat.apache.org Betreff: Re: File
> and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive
> 
> Rune,
> 
> On 11/24/17 7:53 AM, Rune Rustand wrote:
>> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23 Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4 
>> (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
> 
> 
> 
>> Binary distributions tar archive
> 
>> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and
>> are using the core archive. The process is done by running a
>> puppet script that extracts the tar archive on all the servers
>> (many).
> 
>> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions
>> differ from the tar archive and the zip archive?
> 
> Good question. Evidently, both Info-Zip (the 'unzip' program
> usually found on *NIX-based systems) and Apache Ant understand the
> Info-Zip-specified extension to the ZIP format that encodes file
> permissions and both ought to respect them when both packing and
> unpacking the archive[1].
> 
> I don't know enough about the ZIP file format to be able to inspect
> the archive to determine what's actually stored in there (to
> determine if the archive lacks the permissions or if the extraction
> process is at fault).
> 
>> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and
>> directories are not set for all users.
> 
>> I unpack the archive like this: tar zxvpf
>> apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
> 
>> [snip]
> 
>> For the zip file: unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
> 
>> [snip]
> 
> Hmm. Those definitely *should be* producing the same file
> permissions... at least, I'd expect them to produce the same file
> permissions.
> 
> I don't see any (missing) options to Apache ant's  task that
> look like they would strip those file permissions. I also don't see
> any options for (Info-Zip) unzip that would be required to restore
> such permissions.
> 
> IMHO, this should Just Work.
> 
> -chris
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)#Implementation
> 
> -
>
> 
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> 
> 
> While turning around the same issue this week I compared a
> apache-tomcat-8.5.14.tar.gz and an apache-tomcat-8.0.17.tar.gz.
> 
> The permissions differ.
> 
> With 8.0.17 files have rw-r--r-- and with 8.5.14 files have
> rw-r-
> 
> With 8.0.17 directories (e.g. webapps) have rwxr-xr-x and with
> 8.5.14 they have rwxr-x---
> 
> This means others have no permissions in current Tomcat versions by
> default.
> 
> I found that in the changelog of 8.5.0: Tighten up the default file
> permissions for the .tar.gz distribution so no files or directories
> are world readable by default. Configure Tomcat to run with a
> default umask of 0027 which may be overridden by setting UMASK in
> setenv.sh. (markt)
> 
> So I think it works like expected.

This is a comparison of file permissions coming from tar archives
versus *zip* archives, not a comparison of file permissions coming
from (only) tar archives from two different Tomcat versions.

- -chris
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AW: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Thomas Rohde


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2017 14:21
An: users@tomcat.apache.org
Betreff: Re: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

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Rune,

On 11/24/17 7:53 AM, Rune Rustand wrote:
> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23 Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4
> (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
> 
> 
> 
> Binary distributions tar archive
> 
> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and are 
> using the core archive. The process is done by running a puppet script 
> that extracts the tar archive on all the servers (many).
> 
> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions differ 
> from the tar archive and the zip archive?

Good question. Evidently, both Info-Zip (the 'unzip' program usually found on 
*NIX-based systems) and Apache Ant understand the Info-Zip-specified extension 
to the ZIP format that encodes file permissions and both ought to respect them 
when both packing and unpacking the archive[1].

I don't know enough about the ZIP file format to be able to inspect the archive 
to determine what's actually stored in there (to determine if the archive lacks 
the permissions or if the extraction process is at fault).

> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and directories 
> are not set for all users.
> 
> I unpack the archive like this: tar zxvpf apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
> 
> [snip]
> 
> For the zip file: unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
> 
> [snip]

Hmm. Those definitely *should be* producing the same file permissions... at 
least, I'd expect them to produce the same file permissions.

I don't see any (missing) options to Apache ant's  task that look like 
they would strip those file permissions. I also don't see any options for 
(Info-Zip) unzip that would be required to restore such permissions.

IMHO, this should Just Work.

- -chris

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)#Implementation
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While turning around the same issue this week I compared a 
apache-tomcat-8.5.14.tar.gz and an apache-tomcat-8.0.17.tar.gz.

The permissions differ.

With 8.0.17 files have rw-r--r-- and with 8.5.14 files have rw-r-

With 8.0.17 directories (e.g. webapps) have rwxr-xr-x and with 8.5.14 they have 
rwxr-x---

This means others have no permissions in current Tomcat versions by default.

I found that in the changelog of 8.5.0:
Tighten up the default file permissions for the .tar.gz distribution so no 
files or directories are world readable by default. Configure Tomcat to run 
with a default umask of 0027 which may be overridden by setting UMASK in 
setenv.sh. (markt)

So I think it works like expected.

Regards
Thomas



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Re: File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Rune,

On 11/24/17 7:53 AM, Rune Rustand wrote:
> Apache Tomcat 8.5.23 Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4
> (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)
> 
> 
> 
> Binary distributions tar archive
> 
> We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and are
> using the core archive. The process is done by running a puppet
> script that extracts the tar archive on all the servers (many).
> 
> Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions differ
> from the tar archive and the zip archive?

Good question. Evidently, both Info-Zip (the 'unzip' program usually
found on *NIX-based systems) and Apache Ant understand the
Info-Zip-specified extension to the ZIP format that encodes file
permissions and both ought to respect them when both packing and
unpacking the archive[1].

I don't know enough about the ZIP file format to be able to inspect
the archive to determine what's actually stored in there (to determine
if the archive lacks the permissions or if the extraction process is
at fault).

> When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and
> directories are not set for all users.
> 
> I unpack the archive like this: tar zxvpf
> apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz
> 
> [snip]
> 
> For the zip file: unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip
> 
> [snip]

Hmm. Those definitely *should be* producing the same file
permissions... at least, I'd expect them to produce the same file
permissions.

I don't see any (missing) options to Apache ant's  task that look
like they would strip those file permissions. I also don't see any
options for (Info-Zip) unzip that would be required to restore such
permissions.

IMHO, this should Just Work.

- -chris

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)#Implementation
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File and directory permissions on Tomcat 8.5 tar archive

2017-11-24 Thread Rune Rustand
Apache Tomcat 8.5.23
Redhat Enterprise Linux 7.4  (3.10.0-693.1.1.el7.x86_64)



Binary distributions tar archive

We are upgrading our servers from Tomcat 8.0 to Tomcat 8.5, and are using
the core archive. The process is done by running a puppet script that
extracts the tar archive on all the servers (many).

Are there any reasons why the file and directory permissions differ from
the tar archive and the zip archive?
When I unpack the tar archive the permissions on files and directories are
not set for all users.

I unpack the archive like this:
tar zxvpf apache-tomcat-8.5.23.tar.gz

examples of file and directories permissons are:
[runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l
total 96
drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Nov 24 08:46 bin
drwx--. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 12:31 conf
drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Nov 24 08:46 lib
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 57092 Sep 28 12:31 LICENSE
drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 12:30 logs
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  1723 Sep 28 12:31 NOTICE
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  7064 Sep 28 12:31 RELEASE-NOTES
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 15946 Sep 28 12:31 RUNNING.txt
drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus29 Nov 24 08:46 temp
drwxr-x---. 7 runrus runrus76 Sep 28 12:30 webapps
drwxr-x---. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 12:30 work


[runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l lib
total 7644
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   18254 Sep 28 12:30 annotations-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   54300 Sep 28 12:30 catalina-ant.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  119087 Sep 28 12:30 catalina-ha.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 1623570 Sep 28 12:30 catalina.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   75103 Sep 28 12:30 catalina-storeconfig.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  281816 Sep 28 12:30 catalina-tribes.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus 2450404 Sep 28 12:30 ecj-4.6.3.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   81361 Sep 28 12:30 el-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  163295 Sep 28 12:30 jasper-el.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  592050 Sep 28 12:30 jasper.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   26863 Sep 28 12:30 jaspic-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   61756 Sep 28 12:30 jsp-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  244134 Sep 28 12:30 servlet-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   10562 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-api.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  788380 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-coyote.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  251940 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-dbcp.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   66928 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-i18n-es.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   40824 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-i18n-fr.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   42130 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-i18n-ja.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  144981 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-jdbc.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   34543 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-jni.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  136560 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-util.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  205365 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-util-scan.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus  217108 Sep 28 12:30 tomcat-websocket.jar
-rw-r-. 1 runrus runrus   36947 Sep 28 12:30 websocket-api.jar



For the zip file:
unzip apache-tomcat-8.5.23.zip

[runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l
total 104
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 bin
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 conf
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus  4096 Sep 28 11:31 lib
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 58153 Sep 28 11:31 LICENSE
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 11:30 logs
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  1774 Sep 28 11:31 NOTICE
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  7241 Sep 28 11:31 RELEASE-NOTES
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 16416 Sep 28 11:31 RUNNING.txt
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus29 Sep 28 11:31 temp
drwxr-xr-x. 7 runrus runrus76 Sep 28 11:31 webapps
drwxr-xr-x. 2 runrus runrus 6 Sep 28 11:30 work


[runrus@nemesis apache-tomcat-8.5.23]$ ls -l lib
total 7644
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   18254 Sep 28 11:31 annotations-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   54300 Sep 28 11:31 catalina-ant.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  119087 Sep 28 11:31 catalina-ha.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 1623570 Sep 28 11:31 catalina.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   75103 Sep 28 11:31 catalina-storeconfig.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  281816 Sep 28 11:31 catalina-tribes.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus 2450404 Sep 28 11:31 ecj-4.6.3.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   81361 Sep 28 11:31 el-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  163295 Sep 28 11:31 jasper-el.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  592050 Sep 28 11:31 jasper.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   26863 Sep 28 11:31 jaspic-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   61756 Sep 28 11:31 jsp-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  244134 Sep 28 11:31 servlet-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   10562 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-api.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  788380 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-coyote.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus  251940 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-dbcp.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   66928 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-i18n-es.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   40824 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-i18n-fr.jar
-rw-r--r--. 1 runrus runrus   42130 Sep 28 11:31 tomcat-i18n-ja.jar

Re: Tomcat log files - Strict permissions - setuid

2015-12-03 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 10:42:40AM -0300, Andres Riancho wrote:
> List,
> 
> I'm trying to secure my tomcat instances. One of the steps I took
> was to run the tomcat process using the non-privileged "tomcat" user,
> and set the file system permissions as restrictive as possible. It all
> works well, but there is something missing: "The tomcat user is able
> to read the access log files":
> 
> root@7083cdc8e2fc:/apps/tomcat/logs# ls -la
> ...
> -rw-rw  1 tomcat tomcat0 Dec  1 19:46 
> 0.0.0.0_access_log.2015-12-01.txt

One fancier approach would be to configure a log sink which passes
records to another process through a socket -- syslog, for example.
There are syslog Handler implementations for java.util.logging, or you
could cook up a custom log recorder to receive from the stock
j.u.l.SocketHandler, or you could configure Tomcat to use
slf4j/logback and its syslog appender.  This will not be simple but it
will be quite adaptable.  You should probably look at simpler methods
first.

> Is there any way to configure tomcat to be able to write to the
> access log file, but have the file owned by root with permissions 600?
> I understand that this is done by starting the tomcat process as root
> and then dropping privileges using setuid() , but was unable to find
> something already built / well documented.

That is what the Commons Daemon tool (jsvc) is for.  That should be a
lot simpler.

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Re: Tomcat log files - Strict permissions - setuid

2015-12-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
Andres,

On 12/3/15 8:42 AM, Andres Riancho wrote:
> List,
> 
> I'm trying to secure my tomcat instances. One of the steps I took
> was to run the tomcat process using the non-privileged "tomcat" user,
> and set the file system permissions as restrictive as possible. It all
> works well, but there is something missing: "The tomcat user is able
> to read the access log files":
> 
> root@7083cdc8e2fc:/apps/tomcat/logs# ls -la
> ...
> -rw-rw  1 tomcat tomcat0 Dec  1 19:46 
> 0.0.0.0_access_log.2015-12-01.txt
> 
> Is there any way to configure tomcat to be able to write to the
> access log file, but have the file owned by root with permissions 600?
> I understand that this is done by starting the tomcat process as root
> and then dropping privileges using setuid() , but was unable to find
> something already built / well documented.

How do you launch Tomcat? If you use the scripts, you could use
something like bin/setenv.sh to check the permissions of the log files
and refuse to start if they aren't the way you want them.

For files that don't already exist, you'll have to refuse to start if
they don't exist, because a process can't create a new file owned by
another user. You'd have to disable file-rotation because of the same
problem.

Are you more worried about a hostile web application running within your
server, a hostile remote user, a vulnerability in a web application, or
a vulnerability in Tomcat?

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Tomcat log files - Strict permissions - setuid

2015-12-03 Thread Andres Riancho
List,

I'm trying to secure my tomcat instances. One of the steps I took
was to run the tomcat process using the non-privileged "tomcat" user,
and set the file system permissions as restrictive as possible. It all
works well, but there is something missing: "The tomcat user is able
to read the access log files":

root@7083cdc8e2fc:/apps/tomcat/logs# ls -la
...
-rw-rw  1 tomcat tomcat0 Dec  1 19:46 0.0.0.0_access_log.2015-12-01.txt

Is there any way to configure tomcat to be able to write to the
access log file, but have the file owned by root with permissions 600?
I understand that this is done by starting the tomcat process as root
and then dropping privileges using setuid() , but was unable to find
something already built / well documented.

Ideas?

Regards,
-- 
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Project Leader at w3af - http://w3af.org/
Web Application Attack and Audit Framework
Twitter: @w3af
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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-14 Thread Lmhelp1

On 2014-03-13 11:57 AM, André Warnier wrote:

Yes, I cannot really think off-hand of any serious problem that this may
cause.
Basically, it all depends on the context.
If this is a one-off thing that you are doing, on your personal website,
on a server on which there is no really critical information and which
is not open to all on the Internet etc.. then it is one context.
You still have to be a bit careful so that this does not make your
server into an ideal base for a hacker, to use it to do nasty things
elsewhere.
And you don't want to open your site to script kiddies who have nothing
better to do in life than crashing other people's work (there are people
like that).
But it is not critical.


This is not my context.


Another context entirely is if this is a professional website


This is my context.


that you are setting up for an important customer which you cannot afford to
lose,


This is not my context. The website is for my company.


or if this is a design pattern for an application which you
intend to reproduce hundreds of times in the future.


Maybe not hundreds of times but several times possibly.


In that case, you want something that is airtight, that you can easily
reproduce, update and maintain, and that will work under Windows as well
as Linux.
(umask for example would not).


That's right.


And you would also want something that is not going to be constantly
flagged as insecure by security audit programs.  They may have a set
pattern of permissions that they expect, and they might not like that
your webapp directory is writeable by group.


I understand. Are you thinking about tiger?


Also, there is no guarantee that the webapps directory of a servlet
engine would be writeable at all. It could be located on some read-only
device or filesystem.


This is not my case.


In theory, the webapps directory is supposed to
contain only *code* to be executed and parameters to be read, not
writeable data.

 For a writeable area, the servlet container offers specific writeable
 work directories (for temporary files etc.), which are *not* under the
 ../webapps/ dir.

 Your choice.

Only I can add files to the webapp exploded directory.
If the other webapp users upload files on the server it won't be into 
the webapp exploded directory.


I hope it won't hurt if I grant the write privilege to the owner group 
of the exploded webapp directory...

Otherwise, only tomcat6 and root can write to this directory.
And as tomcat6 can't have a shell, only root can actually do this 
(distantly using WinSCP or SCP in my case and it's not safe to log 
in as root in these cases).

This is why I added a simple user (not root) to the tomcat6 group.
Only this simple user has the write permission on the exploded webapp 
directory as a member of the tomcat6 group.


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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-14 Thread Lmhelp1

On 2014-03-13 12:03 PM, André Warnier wrote:

On 2014-03-12 11:49 PM, Neven Cvetkovic [via Tomcat] wrote:

How about setting up umask 002 on tomcat6 user? All newly created files
would be have 775 permission.


Yes, well, how shall I do that?


Personally, I don't think you should.  The scary thing here is All
newly created files.
That means e.g. all webapps deployed by Tomcat, not just your my_webapp.

But if you wanted to do it nevertheless, under Linux you would do that
in the /etc/init.d script which starts Tomcat.


Ok. Thank you.
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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-14 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:

On 2014-03-13 11:57 AM, André Warnier wrote:

Yes, I cannot really think off-hand of any serious problem that this may
cause.
Basically, it all depends on the context.
If this is a one-off thing that you are doing, on your personal website,
on a server on which there is no really critical information and which
is not open to all on the Internet etc.. then it is one context.
You still have to be a bit careful so that this does not make your
server into an ideal base for a hacker, to use it to do nasty things
elsewhere.
And you don't want to open your site to script kiddies who have nothing
better to do in life than crashing other people's work (there are people
like that).
But it is not critical.


This is not my context.


Another context entirely is if this is a professional website


This is my context.

that you are setting up for an important customer which you cannot 
afford to

lose,


This is not my context. The website is for my company.


In the possible consequences, it is quite similar, no ?




or if this is a design pattern for an application which you
intend to reproduce hundreds of times in the future.


Maybe not hundreds of times but several times possibly.


In that case, you want something that is airtight, that you can easily
reproduce, update and maintain, and that will work under Windows as well
as Linux.
(umask for example would not).


That's right.


And you would also want something that is not going to be constantly
flagged as insecure by security audit programs.  They may have a set
pattern of permissions that they expect, and they might not like that
your webapp directory is writeable by group.


I understand. Are you thinking about tiger?


I wasn't thinking about any auditing software in particular.  But most of them will scan 
the permissions of a set of well-know directories (and tomcat/webapps would be one of 
those) and flag anything that they consider suspicious or non-standard.
By the Java Servlet Specification, the webapps directories would not normally be 
writeable, so this may come up.  Which, in the best of cases, would result in you having 
to write a report describing why you needed to set the permissions that way.

Which is probably not the kind of thing at which you want to spend your time.

But maybe your company does not do this kind of audit, in which case all that is 
irrelevant.  I just wanted to warn you of the possibility.


I do actually have a couple of customers where this would be a definite no-no.

(There is also the possibility of a colleague of yours, seeing those permissions in 6 
months time while you are on holiday, and re-setting them properly..)





Also, there is no guarantee that the webapps directory of a servlet
engine would be writeable at all. It could be located on some read-only
device or filesystem.


This is not my case.


Rules can be broken, if there is enough justification.

What I meant was that strictly going by the rules, making your webapp's directory 
writeable is not something which you should be doing, because in theory this is not 
something which you can always expect to be possible.


You have now described your context in more detail, and now we know that this is not an 
application which you would distribute to work on some kind of mobile device where it 
would be stored on some non-writeable ROM device.  But before the latest explanation, we 
did not know that.






In theory, the webapps directory is supposed to
contain only *code* to be executed and parameters to be read, not
writeable data.

  For a writeable area, the servlet container offers specific writeable
  work directories (for temporary files etc.), which are *not* under the
  ../webapps/ dir.
 
  Your choice.

Only I can add files to the webapp exploded directory.
If the other webapp users upload files on the server it won't be into 
the webapp exploded directory.


I hope it won't hurt if I grant the write privilege to the owner group 
of the exploded webapp directory...

Otherwise, only tomcat6 and root can write to this directory.
And as tomcat6 can't have a shell, only root can actually do this 
(distantly using WinSCP or SCP in my case and it's not safe to log 
in as root in these cases).

This is why I added a simple user (not root) to the tomcat6 group.
Only this simple user has the write permission on the exploded webapp 
directory as a member of the tomcat6 group.




Right. In your particular context and as you describe it above, it does not seem that it 
would hurt.


Please understand that we still don't know exactly the whole practical context in which 
all of this lives.
For example, we do not know if what you are trying to achieve is some kind of website 
where users can upload their own HTML pages, or whether this is some kind of repository 
where users can upload office documents to share between them, or if you are trying to 
replace Sharepoint as a collaborative tool, or whatever.
Nor do we know if this has

Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-14 Thread Lmhelp1

On 2014-03-14 12:45 PM, André Warnier wrote:

Lmhelp1 wrote:

On 2014-03-13 11:57 AM, André Warnier wrote:

Yes, I cannot really think off-hand of any serious problem that this may
cause.
Basically, it all depends on the context.
If this is a one-off thing that you are doing, on your personal website,
on a server on which there is no really critical information and which
is not open to all on the Internet etc.. then it is one context.
You still have to be a bit careful so that this does not make your
server into an ideal base for a hacker, to use it to do nasty things
elsewhere.
And you don't want to open your site to script kiddies who have nothing
better to do in life than crashing other people's work (there are people
like that).
But it is not critical.


This is not my context.


Another context entirely is if this is a professional website


This is my context.


that you are setting up for an important customer which you cannot
afford to
lose,


This is not my context. The website is for my company.


In the possible consequences, it is quite similar, no ?




or if this is a design pattern for an application which you
intend to reproduce hundreds of times in the future.


Maybe not hundreds of times but several times possibly.


In that case, you want something that is airtight, that you can easily
reproduce, update and maintain, and that will work under Windows as well
as Linux.
(umask for example would not).


That's right.


And you would also want something that is not going to be constantly
flagged as insecure by security audit programs.  They may have a set
pattern of permissions that they expect, and they might not like that
your webapp directory is writeable by group.


I understand. Are you thinking about tiger?


I wasn't thinking about any auditing software in particular.  But most
of them will scan the permissions of a set of well-know directories (and
tomcat/webapps would be one of those) and flag anything that they
consider suspicious or non-standard.
By the Java Servlet Specification, the webapps directories would not
normally be writeable, so this may come up.  Which, in the best of
cases, would result in you having to write a report describing why you
needed to set the permissions that way.
Which is probably not the kind of thing at which you want to spend your
time.

But maybe your company does not do this kind of audit, in which case all
that is irrelevant.  I just wanted to warn you of the possibility.

I do actually have a couple of customers where this would be a definite
no-no.

(There is also the possibility of a colleague of yours, seeing those
permissions in 6 months time while you are on holiday, and re-setting
them properly..)




Also, there is no guarantee that the webapps directory of a servlet
engine would be writeable at all. It could be located on some read-only
device or filesystem.


This is not my case.


Rules can be broken, if there is enough justification.

What I meant was that strictly going by the rules, making your webapp's
directory writeable is not something which you should be doing, because
in theory this is not something which you can always expect to be possible.

You have now described your context in more detail, and now we know that
this is not an application which you would distribute to work on some
kind of mobile device where it would be stored on some non-writeable ROM
device.  But before the latest explanation, we did not know that.





In theory, the webapps directory is supposed to
contain only *code* to be executed and parameters to be read, not
writeable data.

  For a writeable area, the servlet container offers specific writeable
  work directories (for temporary files etc.), which are *not* under the
  ../webapps/ dir.
 
  Your choice.

Only I can add files to the webapp exploded directory.
If the other webapp users upload files on the server it won't be into
the webapp exploded directory.

I hope it won't hurt if I grant the write privilege to the owner group
of the exploded webapp directory...
Otherwise, only tomcat6 and root can write to this directory.
And as tomcat6 can't have a shell, only root can actually do this
(distantly using WinSCP or SCP in my case and it's not safe to log
in as root in these cases).
This is why I added a simple user (not root) to the tomcat6 group.
Only this simple user has the write permission on the exploded
webapp directory as a member of the tomcat6 group.



Right. In your particular context and as you describe it above, it does
not seem that it would hurt.

Please understand that we still don't know exactly the whole practical
context in which all of this lives.
For example, we do not know if what you are trying to achieve is some
kind of website where users can upload their own HTML pages, or whether
this is some kind of repository where users can upload office documents
to share between them, or if you are trying to replace Sharepoint as a
collaborative tool, or whatever.
Nor do we know

Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-13 Thread Lmhelp1

On 2014-03-12 11:32 PM, André Warnier [via Tomcat] wrote:

Ok, I understand : the target directory is not created by you, it is
created by Tomcat, so
Tomcat sets these permissions, and they do not fit what you want to be
able to do.


That's it, I only miss the write permission for the owner group which is 
tomcat6.



First, to my knowledge there is no standard way, by configuration alone,
to tell Tomcat to
set these permissions differently when it creates that directory as a
result of the
deployment of your webapp's war-file.


Ok. This is what I was looking for.


But there are probably a dozen ways to do this anyway (and I don't know
enough to think of
all of them).


For now, I do a chmod g+w my_webapp manually.


One way of course, since Tomcat is Open Source, would be to find the
place in Tomcat where
it does this, modify that code, and build your own modified Tomcat.  But
that way is hard
and full of accidents waiting to happen, so you probably don't want to
do that.


Yes, indeed.


Another way would be to change the way in which you deploy your webapp,
and that way
itself subdivides into several sub-ways :
1) instead of deploying your webapp as a war-file (and let Tomcat
explode it), you could
already explode that webapp.war yourself, and deploy your application
statically. That
is, already create in advance the directory .../webapps/my_webapp, with
the exploded
contents of your war-file in it.  You could then set the permissions of
the my_webapp
directory once and for all, and Tomcat would probably not re-set them.


I see.


2) you could use a script to deploy your war-file programmatically,
using the Tomcat
Manager application to do it.  Tomcat would explode the war-file
(creating the
webapps/my_webapp dir in the process, with permissions 755); and then
your script would
re-set these permissions to what you want.


I see.


3) there are probably a couple more ways to do essentially the same,
which I do not know
and will leave it to someone else more qualified to suggest.

Another way would be to change the way in which your webapp my_webapp
works.
(And here I assume that these files are static files - like images or
html files, but
not JSP files).
Currently, you (probably) just move the uploaded files somewhere under
webapps/my_webapp/,
and leave it to Tomcat to serve those file when a browser requests them.

Instead of that, you could have an active webapp my_webapp, which
responds to browser
requests for those files, and which actively reads them and returns them
to the client.
In such a case, the files would not need to be directly under
../webapps/my_webapp/, they
could be anywhere, including in some separate directory (preferably even
not under the top
Tomcat directory), where your active webapp can find them. And that
directory could have
the permissions that you want, and Tomcat would never touch it.
To be clean and flexible, the path to that directory could be in a
parameter in your
webapp's web.xml, which would be read by your active webapp, and that is
where it would
look for those files.
I am sure that there are several cleverer ways to achieve the same
result without having
to do any real additional programming. For example by using a servlet
filter inserted
around your webapp, and which would do the real work (e.g. look up for
UrlRewriteFilter in Google; it may well allow to do that kind of thing).

You may even find a way to cleverly use some code to modify on-the-fly
the location where
Tomcat will look for the file (your appropriately permissive directory,
where you moved
the files), and then let Tomcat return it to the browser anyway.
(That's how I would do this, if we were talking about Apache httpd,
instead of Tomcat.
But I digress, this is a Tomcat list).

I believe that another way (at least under Tomcat 7 (the current
version), may be to use
the aliases attribute in the Context descriptor of your application.
See : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html
and see : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/deployer-howto.html
to understand how Tomcat deploys an application, and where that Context
descriptor would
need to be.
(Nite: you need to verify this, I have never used aliases under Tomcat
and I do not really
know if that would be usable here).

The one solution which gives you the most control is the one where your
own my_webapp
webapp is the one which actually reads and returns the files to the
browser, because that
is your code, and you can bend it in any way you want.
(Including for example, returning something nice to the client, when the
file that he
wants is not there).


Another time maybe :).


Be careful that changing the permissions of your webapps/my_webapp
directory itself, may
weaken the security of your Tomcat website, because there may be other
things in there
than the files which you intend to serve to the clients.
That's why having these files somewhere else than directly under
webapps/my_webapp may be
preferable in any case

Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-13 Thread Lmhelp1

Hello and thank you for your answer.

On 2014-03-12 11:49 PM, Neven Cvetkovic [via Tomcat] wrote:

How about setting up umask 002 on tomcat6 user? All newly created files
would be have 775 permission.


Yes, well, how shall I do that?


Who is placing these files into the webapp folder?


I am manually placing my_webapp.war in the Tomcat6 webapps folder.

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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-13 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:

On 2014-03-12 11:32 PM, André Warnier [via Tomcat] wrote:

Ok, I understand : the target directory is not created by you, it is
created by Tomcat, so
Tomcat sets these permissions, and they do not fit what you want to be
able to do.


That's it, I only miss the write permission for the owner group which is 
tomcat6.



First, to my knowledge there is no standard way, by configuration alone,
to tell Tomcat to
set these permissions differently when it creates that directory as a
result of the
deployment of your webapp's war-file.


Ok. This is what I was looking for.


But there are probably a dozen ways to do this anyway (and I don't know
enough to think of
all of them).


For now, I do a chmod g+w my_webapp manually.


One way of course, since Tomcat is Open Source, would be to find the
place in Tomcat where
it does this, modify that code, and build your own modified Tomcat.  But
that way is hard
and full of accidents waiting to happen, so you probably don't want to
do that.


Yes, indeed.


Another way would be to change the way in which you deploy your webapp,
and that way
itself subdivides into several sub-ways :
1) instead of deploying your webapp as a war-file (and let Tomcat
explode it), you could
already explode that webapp.war yourself, and deploy your application
statically. That
is, already create in advance the directory .../webapps/my_webapp, with
the exploded
contents of your war-file in it.  You could then set the permissions of
the my_webapp
directory once and for all, and Tomcat would probably not re-set them.


I see.


2) you could use a script to deploy your war-file programmatically,
using the Tomcat
Manager application to do it.  Tomcat would explode the war-file
(creating the
webapps/my_webapp dir in the process, with permissions 755); and then
your script would
re-set these permissions to what you want.


I see.


3) there are probably a couple more ways to do essentially the same,
which I do not know
and will leave it to someone else more qualified to suggest.

Another way would be to change the way in which your webapp my_webapp
works.
(And here I assume that these files are static files - like images or
html files, but
not JSP files).
Currently, you (probably) just move the uploaded files somewhere under
webapps/my_webapp/,
and leave it to Tomcat to serve those file when a browser requests them.

Instead of that, you could have an active webapp my_webapp, which
responds to browser
requests for those files, and which actively reads them and returns them
to the client.
In such a case, the files would not need to be directly under
../webapps/my_webapp/, they
could be anywhere, including in some separate directory (preferably even
not under the top
Tomcat directory), where your active webapp can find them. And that
directory could have
the permissions that you want, and Tomcat would never touch it.
To be clean and flexible, the path to that directory could be in a
parameter in your
webapp's web.xml, which would be read by your active webapp, and that is
where it would
look for those files.
I am sure that there are several cleverer ways to achieve the same
result without having
to do any real additional programming. For example by using a servlet
filter inserted
around your webapp, and which would do the real work (e.g. look up for
UrlRewriteFilter in Google; it may well allow to do that kind of 
thing).


You may even find a way to cleverly use some code to modify on-the-fly
the location where
Tomcat will look for the file (your appropriately permissive directory,
where you moved
the files), and then let Tomcat return it to the browser anyway.
(That's how I would do this, if we were talking about Apache httpd,
instead of Tomcat.
But I digress, this is a Tomcat list).

I believe that another way (at least under Tomcat 7 (the current
version), may be to use
the aliases attribute in the Context descriptor of your application.
See : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html
and see : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/deployer-howto.html
to understand how Tomcat deploys an application, and where that Context
descriptor would
need to be.
(Nite: you need to verify this, I have never used aliases under Tomcat
and I do not really
know if that would be usable here).

The one solution which gives you the most control is the one where your
own my_webapp
webapp is the one which actually reads and returns the files to the
browser, because that
is your code, and you can bend it in any way you want.
(Including for example, returning something nice to the client, when the
file that he
wants is not there).


Another time maybe :).


Be careful that changing the permissions of your webapps/my_webapp
directory itself, may
weaken the security of your Tomcat website, because there may be other
things in there
than the files which you intend to serve to the clients.
That's why having these files somewhere else than directly under
webapps/my_webapp may be
preferable

Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-13 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:

Hello and thank you for your answer.

On 2014-03-12 11:49 PM, Neven Cvetkovic [via Tomcat] wrote:

How about setting up umask 002 on tomcat6 user? All newly created files
would be have 775 permission.


Yes, well, how shall I do that?


Personally, I don't think you should.  The scary thing here is All newly created 
files.
That means e.g. all webapps deployed by Tomcat, not just your my_webapp.

But if you wanted to do it nevertheless, under Linux you would do that in the /etc/init.d 
script which starts Tomcat.





Who is placing these files into the webapp folder?


I am manually placing my_webapp.war in the Tomcat6 webapps folder.

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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-12 Thread Lmhelp1

On 2014-03-11 7:44 PM, André Warnier [via Tomcat] wrote:

Maybe easier :
supposing that your user-id is lmhelp1.
Do adduser lmhelp1 tomcat6
(that will add your user-id to the group tomcat6).
Then logout, and login again.
Then you would already have the permissions to read/write any file that
has the appropriate permissions to allow this for the group tomcat6.
That may be enough for what you need to do.


Hello,

 Then you would already have the permissions to read/write any file 
that has the appropriate permissions to allow this for the group tomcat6.


(I'm not sure that I completely understand this sentence.)

Yet, thank you for the advice about adding the user lmhelp1 to the 
group tomcat6.
That's a good idea but tomcat6, as a the owner group of the files that 
are created, doesn't have the write permission by default on these files...


I'm interested in ACLs but for now, I solved my problem by logging into 
the server as tomcat6 (via SSH).


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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-12 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:

On 2014-03-11 7:44 PM, André Warnier [via Tomcat] wrote:

Maybe easier :
supposing that your user-id is lmhelp1.
Do adduser lmhelp1 tomcat6
(that will add your user-id to the group tomcat6).
Then logout, and login again.
Then you would already have the permissions to read/write any file that
has the appropriate permissions to allow this for the group tomcat6.
That may be enough for what you need to do.


Hello,

  Then you would already have the permissions to read/write any file 
that has the appropriate permissions to allow this for the group tomcat6.


(I'm not sure that I completely understand this sentence.)

Yet, thank you for the advice about adding the user lmhelp1 to the 
group tomcat6.
That's a good idea but tomcat6, as a the owner group of the files that 
are created, doesn't have the write permission by default on these files...


If all you need to do, is to
1) read those files, to look at them
2) if they are ok, move them somewhere else
3) if they are not ok, delete them
then (under Linux) you do not need write permissions to the files themselves.
To be able to read a file, you need :
- read and browse (x) access to the directory where these files are, and any directory 
above that one, up to /.
To be able to move a file from one directory to another, you need write permission to the 
source directory and the target directory (and not necessarily to the file).
To be able to delete a file, you need write permission to the directory where the file 
resides (and not necessarily to the file).
Moving or deleting a file, is an operation which changes the content of the directory 
containing the file.  It does not modify the file itself, so you do not need write 
permission to the file.


So, since you have access to the code of the upload webapp, you can decide in which 
directory it writes the uploaded files.  And since you have full control of the system, 
you can set the permissions of that upload directory as you wish them to be.
So if you set the upload directory to belong to user tomcat6, and to have write permission 
for the group (tomcat6), and you add your own user-id to the group tomcat6, then you 
should be able, under your own login, to move and/or delete these files (independently of 
the permissions of the files themselves).





I'm interested in ACLs but for now, I solved my problem by logging into 
the server as tomcat6 (via SSH).


That is interesting, but it implies that you have modified the standard user tomcat6 in 
such a way that it now has a shell when it logs in.
By default, this user would have been created with /bin/false as a shell entry (in 
/etc/passwd).  That would prevent a shell login as that user, and it is a security 
feature.  It normally prevents anyone who has managed to take control of your Tomcat 
server (though a malicious or buggy webapp e.g.), to easily obtain a shell and being able 
to execute any command on your server through such a shell.  By changing this, you weaken 
the security of your system.
In your particular case, it may not matter very much.  But in the general case, that is 
not a good thing.
Remember that a hacker which gains access to your server, cannot only do damage to your 
server.  He can use your server as a platform to do damage to other servers, making it 
look like it is your server doing it.


Example: your webapp allows users to upload files to your server.  How does your webapp 
handle the file names, for the files that the user uploads ?  Do you use the original 
filename that the user provides ? If yes, are you filtering this filename for characters 
that may have a meaning for a shell (like | or  or  or  etc..) ?


Regarding ACls : under Linux, the usage of setfacl and siblings is kind of a dark art, 
reserved to wizards of the 3rd level and up.  I know relatively little about them, but one 
thing which I think that I remember, is that you must enable ACLs on the filesystem in 
which you want to use them, in the command that mounts that filesystem.

Maybe that is what was missing in your case ?

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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-12 Thread Lmhelp1

Hello and thank you for your answer.

On 2014-03-12 11:54 AM, André Warnier wrote:

If all you need to do, is to
1) read those files, to look at them
2) if they are ok, move them somewhere else
3) if they are not ok, delete them


That's it.


then (under Linux) you do not need write permissions to the files
themselves.
To be able to read a file, you need :
- read and browse (x) access to the directory where these files are,
and any directory above that one, up to /.
To be able to move a file from one directory to another, you need write
permission to the source directory and the target directory (and not
necessarily to the file).


Ok.

In my case, the target directory is the webapp directory my_webapp.
This directory is created when tomcat6 deploys the archive 
my_webapp.war which I put into the Tomcat webapps container.


By default, the owner of this directory is tomcat6,
the owner group is tomcat6
and the permissions are 755.
So as you see, unfortunately, the owner group doesn't have the write 
permission :/



To be able to delete a file, you need write permission to the directory
where the file resides (and not necessarily to the file).
Moving or deleting a file, is an operation which changes the content of
the directory containing the file.  It does not modify the file itself,
so you do not need write permission to the file.

So, since you have access to the code of the upload webapp, you can
decide in which directory it writes the uploaded files.  And since you
have full control of the system, you can set the permissions of that
upload directory as you wish them to be.


Yes indeed. There are no problems with the source directory.


So if you set the upload directory to belong to user tomcat6, and to
have write permission for the group (tomcat6), and you add your own
user-id to the group tomcat6, then you should be able, under your own
login, to move and/or delete these files (independently of the
permissions of the files themselves).


That would be perfect if we were not talking about the source directory 
but about the target directory...


What I actually do is copy manually (using WinSCP and logged into 
WinSCP as user1) a file that was uploaded by the webapp into what 
you call the upload directory (source directory) into the webapp root 
directory namely my_webapp (target directory).

(I hope this sentence is clear enough :))

As you suggested (and which is a good idea), I added my user id, say 
user1 to the group tomcat6. Yet I'm lacking the write permission for 
the owner group of the target directory (my_webapp).


Maybe there is a way to tell the process which deployed the webapp 
(tomcat6, java?) to enable the write permission for the root directory 
of a deployed webapp and for its owner group ?



I'm interested in ACLs but for now, I solved my problem by logging
into the server as tomcat6 (via SSH).


That is interesting, but it implies that you have modified the standard
user tomcat6 in such a way that it now has a shell when it logs in.
By default, this user would have been created with /bin/false as a
shell entry (in /etc/passwd).  That would prevent a shell login as that
user, and it is a security feature.  It normally prevents anyone who has
managed to take control of your Tomcat server (though a malicious or
buggy webapp e.g.), to easily obtain a shell and being able to execute
any command on your server through such a shell.  By changing this, you
weaken the security of your system.
In your particular case, it may not matter very much.  But in the
general case, that is not a good thing.
Remember that a hacker which gains access to your server, cannot only do
damage to your server.  He can use your server as a platform to do
damage to other servers, making it look like it is your server doing it.

Example: your webapp allows users to upload files to your server.  How
does your webapp handle the file names, for the files that the user
uploads ?  Do you use the original filename that the user provides ? If
yes, are you filtering this filename for characters that may have a
meaning for a shell (like | or  or  or  etc..) ?


Ah ok. Indeed, I replaced /bin/false with /bin/bash in /etc/passwd 
for the user tomcat6.

I just reverted this since you wisely advise and explain why not to do it :)


Regarding ACls : under Linux, the usage of setfacl and siblings is
kind of a dark art, reserved to wizards of the 3rd level and up.  I know
relatively little about them, but one thing which I think that I
remember, is that you must enable ACLs on the filesystem in which you
want to use them, in the command that mounts that filesystem.
Maybe that is what was missing in your case?


I actually went to /etc/fstab and added the option acl for the 
partition  /home. So setfacl works for me. Thank you.


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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-12 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:

Hello and thank you for your answer.

On 2014-03-12 11:54 AM, André Warnier wrote:

If all you need to do, is to
1) read those files, to look at them
2) if they are ok, move them somewhere else
3) if they are not ok, delete them


That's it.


then (under Linux) you do not need write permissions to the files
themselves.
To be able to read a file, you need :
- read and browse (x) access to the directory where these files are,
and any directory above that one, up to /.
To be able to move a file from one directory to another, you need write
permission to the source directory and the target directory (and not
necessarily to the file).


Ok.

In my case, the target directory is the webapp directory my_webapp.
This directory is created when tomcat6 deploys the archive 
my_webapp.war which I put into the Tomcat webapps container.


By default, the owner of this directory is tomcat6,
the owner group is tomcat6
and the permissions are 755.
So as you see, unfortunately, the owner group doesn't have the write 
permission :/




Ok, I understand : the target directory is not created by you, it is created by Tomcat, so 
Tomcat sets these permissions, and they do not fit what you want to be able to do.


First, to my knowledge there is no standard way, by configuration alone, to tell Tomcat to 
set these permissions differently when it creates that directory as a result of the 
deployment of your webapp's war-file.


But there are probably a dozen ways to do this anyway (and I don't know enough to think of 
all of them).


One way of course, since Tomcat is Open Source, would be to find the place in Tomcat where 
it does this, modify that code, and build your own modified Tomcat.  But that way is hard 
and full of accidents waiting to happen, so you probably don't want to do that.


Another way would be to change the way in which you deploy your webapp, and that way 
itself subdivides into several sub-ways :
1) instead of deploying your webapp as a war-file (and let Tomcat explode it), you could 
already explode that webapp.war yourself, and deploy your application statically. That 
is, already create in advance the directory .../webapps/my_webapp, with the exploded 
contents of your war-file in it.  You could then set the permissions of the my_webapp 
directory once and for all, and Tomcat would probably not re-set them.
2) you could use a script to deploy your war-file programmatically, using the Tomcat 
Manager application to do it.  Tomcat would explode the war-file (creating the 
webapps/my_webapp dir in the process, with permissions 755); and then your script would 
re-set these permissions to what you want.
3) there are probably a couple more ways to do essentially the same, which I do not know 
and will leave it to someone else more qualified to suggest.


Another way would be to change the way in which your webapp my_webapp works.
(And here I assume that these files are static files - like images or html files, but 
not JSP files).
Currently, you (probably) just move the uploaded files somewhere under webapps/my_webapp/, 
and leave it to Tomcat to serve those file when a browser requests them.


Instead of that, you could have an active webapp my_webapp, which responds to browser 
requests for those files, and which actively reads them and returns them to the client.
In such a case, the files would not need to be directly under ../webapps/my_webapp/, they 
could be anywhere, including in some separate directory (preferably even not under the top 
Tomcat directory), where your active webapp can find them. And that directory could have 
the permissions that you want, and Tomcat would never touch it.
To be clean and flexible, the path to that directory could be in a parameter in your 
webapp's web.xml, which would be read by your active webapp, and that is where it would 
look for those files.


I am sure that there are several cleverer ways to achieve the same result without having 
to do any real additional programming. For example by using a servlet filter inserted 
around your webapp, and which would do the real work (e.g. look up for 
UrlRewriteFilter in Google; it may well allow to do that kind of thing).


You may even find a way to cleverly use some code to modify on-the-fly the location where 
Tomcat will look for the file (your appropriately permissive directory, where you moved 
the files), and then let Tomcat return it to the browser anyway.
(That's how I would do this, if we were talking about Apache httpd, instead of Tomcat. 
But I digress, this is a Tomcat list).


I believe that another way (at least under Tomcat 7 (the current version), may be to use 
the aliases attribute in the Context descriptor of your application.

See : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html
and see : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/deployer-howto.html
to understand how Tomcat deploys an application, and where that Context descriptor would 
need to be.
(Nite: you need to verify

Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-12 Thread Neven Cvetkovic
On Mar 12, 2014 11:31 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Lmhelp1 wrote:

 Hello and thank you for your answer.

 On 2014-03-12 11:54 AM, André Warnier wrote:

 If all you need to do, is to
 1) read those files, to look at them
 2) if they are ok, move them somewhere else
 3) if they are not ok, delete them


 That's it.

 then (under Linux) you do not need write permissions to the files
 themselves.
 To be able to read a file, you need :
 - read and browse (x) access to the directory where these files are,
 and any directory above that one, up to /.
 To be able to move a file from one directory to another, you need write
 permission to the source directory and the target directory (and not
 necessarily to the file).


 Ok.

 But there are probably a dozen ways to do this anyway (and I don't know
enough to think of all of them).
 3) there are probably a couple more ways to do essentially the same,
which I do not know and will leave it to someone else more qualified to
suggest.


How about setting up umask 002 on tomcat6 user? All newly created files
would be have 775 permission.

Who is placing these files into the webapp folder?


Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-11 Thread Lmhelp1
-- Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions 
for this file --


Hello and thank you for reading my post.

I am running a Tomcat v6.0 webapp on a Debian 7.2 Wheezy OS.

In particular, this webapp creates some files on the filesystem.

The files created have:
- tomcat6 as the owner user,
- tomcat6 as the owner group,
- 644 as the permissions granted to the owner, the owner group and 
others respectively.


Is it possible to change this behavior?

What I like to do is:
- set the owner user to user1,
- set the owner group to group1,
- set the permissions to 660
for every new file created.

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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Léa,

On 3/11/14, 12:31 PM, Lmhelp1 wrote:
 -- Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group,
 permissions for this file --
 
 Hello and thank you for reading my post.
 
 I am running a Tomcat v6.0 webapp on a Debian 7.2 Wheezy OS.
 
 In particular, this webapp creates some files on the filesystem.
 
 The files created have: - tomcat6 as the owner user, - tomcat6
 as the owner group, - 644 as the permissions granted to the owner,
 the owner group and others respectively.
 
 Is it possible to change this behavior?
 
 What I like to do is: - set the owner user to user1, - set the
 owner group to group1, - set the permissions to 660 for every new
 file created.

You can set the file permissions (bits) by setting the umask of the
process.

When creating files, the process uid and gid are used as defaults for
ownership. If you want to use user1 and group1, then you should
run Tomcat under those uid and gid settings.

I'm unaware of any setting which will allow a process to run under one
uid but files created by that process are owned by another user. You
might be able to get away with a cron process that re-assigns
ownership of the files periodically.

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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-11 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:
-- Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions 
for this file --


Hello and thank you for reading my post.

I am running a Tomcat v6.0 webapp on a Debian 7.2 Wheezy OS.

In particular, this webapp creates some files on the filesystem.

The files created have:
- tomcat6 as the owner user,
- tomcat6 as the owner group,
- 644 as the permissions granted to the owner, the owner group and 
others respectively.


Is it possible to change this behavior?

What I like to do is:
- set the owner user to user1,
- set the owner group to group1,
- set the permissions to 660
for every new file created.



It sounds like you have installed Tomcat 6, using the standard Ubuntu/Debian tomcat 
package (apt-get etc..).
That package is the one that specifies the user/group under which this Tomcat is running 
(in reality it is the java JVM which is running, and the JVM runs Tomcat and webapp code).
Since the JVM is started under the user/group tomcat6, when the webapp creates a file, 
it uses that user/group, and the umask of that user, to set the file ownership and 
permissions.
To change this, you would have to change the user-id/group under which Tomcat is started 
(in /etc/init.d/tomcat6).
However, the Debian Tomcat package creates a lot of files in different places in the 
filesystem, each with user/group tomcat6, and corresponding permissions.
So it is going to be a lot of work to change all that and still have your Tomcat running 
properly.


It would probably be better, and less work in the end, to remove this packaged tomcat, and 
install a real tomcat, from the Tomcat website.
Then you can specify a user-id under which to run, without getting in trouble with all the 
pre-installed files all over the place.


There may be other options (such as using ACLs on the directory where the files are 
created), but they are quite difficult to recommend without having access to your server.


The other thing is : do you have the code of that webapp and could you change 
it ?
And why do the files have to be owned by user1/group1 ? Is it because some other process 
must be able to read/write them ?
Can you not give to this other process the permissions to read/write the files of 
tomcat6/tomcat6 ? That may be easier to achieve.




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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-11 Thread Lmhelp1

Thank you for your answers.

 It sounds like you have installed Tomcat 6, using the standard 
Ubuntu/Debian tomcat package (apt-get etc..).


Yes indeed.

 That package is the one that specifies the user/group under which 
this Tomcat is running (in reality it is the java JVM which is running, 
and the JVM runs Tomcat and webapp code).
 Since the JVM is started under the user/group tomcat6, when the 
webapp creates a file, it uses that user/group, and the umask of that 
user, to set the file ownership and permissions.


Yes, it looks like this is it.

 To change this, you would have to change the user-id/group under 
which Tomcat is started (in /etc/init.d/tomcat6).
 However, the Debian Tomcat package creates a lot of files in 
different places in the filesystem, each with user/group tomcat6, and 
corresponding permissions.
 So it is going to be a lot of work to change all that and still have 
your Tomcat running properly.


All right, I won't do this then.

 It would probably be better, and less work in the end, to remove this 
packaged tomcat, and install a real tomcat, from the Tomcat website.
 Then you can specify a user-id under which to run, without getting in 
trouble with all the pre-installed files all over the place.


Thank you, I understand. But I'm not going to do this either.

 There may be other options (such as using ACLs on the directory where 
the files are created), but they are quite difficult to recommend 
without having access to your server.


I do have full access to the server...
I'm interested in this solution but I couldn't find a way to force the 
file owner, owner group and permissions for a given directory using 
setfacl.

I know this forum is not about ACLs but can you assist me on doing this?

 The other thing is : do you have the code of that webapp and could 
you change it ?


Yes, I can.

 And why do the files have to be owned by user1/group1 ? Is it because 
some other process must be able to read/write them ?


The other process is me :)
The webapp stores files in a directory.
I, as a human, check these files.
And when I'm ready, I put them manually in another directory (in the 
WebContent directory of the webapp to be more precise).

I just do not want to put the files directly online.

 Can you not give to this other process the permissions to read/write 
the files of tomcat6/tomcat6 ? That may be easier to achieve.


Yes, well, if I log in as tomcat6, it will work.

Best regards,
--
Léa



On 2014-03-11 6:16 PM, André Warnier wrote:

Lmhelp1 wrote:

-- Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group,
permissions for this file --

Hello and thank you for reading my post.

I am running a Tomcat v6.0 webapp on a Debian 7.2 Wheezy OS.

In particular, this webapp creates some files on the filesystem.

The files created have:
- tomcat6 as the owner user,
- tomcat6 as the owner group,
- 644 as the permissions granted to the owner, the owner group and
others respectively.

Is it possible to change this behavior?

What I like to do is:
- set the owner user to user1,
- set the owner group to group1,
- set the permissions to 660
for every new file created.



It sounds like you have installed Tomcat 6, using the standard
Ubuntu/Debian tomcat package (apt-get etc..).
That package is the one that specifies the user/group under which this
Tomcat is running (in reality it is the java JVM which is running, and
the JVM runs Tomcat and webapp code).
Since the JVM is started under the user/group tomcat6, when the webapp
creates a file, it uses that user/group, and the umask of that user,
to set the file ownership and permissions.
To change this, you would have to change the user-id/group under which
Tomcat is started (in /etc/init.d/tomcat6).
However, the Debian Tomcat package creates a lot of files in different
places in the filesystem, each with user/group tomcat6, and
corresponding permissions.
So it is going to be a lot of work to change all that and still have
your Tomcat running properly.

It would probably be better, and less work in the end, to remove this
packaged tomcat, and install a real tomcat, from the Tomcat website.
Then you can specify a user-id under which to run, without getting in
trouble with all the pre-installed files all over the place.

There may be other options (such as using ACLs on the directory where
the files are created), but they are quite difficult to recommend
without having access to your server.

The other thing is : do you have the code of that webapp and could you
change it ?
And why do the files have to be owned by user1/group1 ? Is it because
some other process must be able to read/write them ?
Can you not give to this other process the permissions to read/write the
files of tomcat6/tomcat6 ? That may be easier to achieve.



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Re: Files created by a Tomcat webapp and owner, owner group, permissions for this file

2014-03-11 Thread André Warnier

Lmhelp1 wrote:
...



  The other thing is : do you have the code of that webapp and could 
you change it ?


Yes, I can.

  And why do the files have to be owned by user1/group1 ? Is it because 
some other process must be able to read/write them ?


The other process is me :)
The webapp stores files in a directory.
I, as a human, check these files.
And when I'm ready, I put them manually in another directory (in the 
WebContent directory of the webapp to be more precise).

I just do not want to put the files directly online.

  Can you not give to this other process the permissions to read/write 
the files of tomcat6/tomcat6 ? That may be easier to achieve.


Yes, well, if I log in as tomcat6, it will work.



Maybe easier :
supposing that your user-id is lmhelp1.
Do adduser lmhelp1 tomcat6
(that will add your user-id to the group tomcat6).
Then logout, and login again.
Then you would already have the permissions to read/write any file that has the 
appropriate permissions to allow this for the group tomcat6.

That may be enough for what you need to do.

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Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
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On 12/17/13, 11:29 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
 There are not a lot of files that Tomcat creates.
 
 1. log files, as we have been discussing 2. PID file - if enabled,
 and that depends on where you write it 3. serialized sessions 4.
 JSP files - generate a .java file and the corresponding class 5.
 looks like some Maven stuff may get unpacked in the work directory

Tomcat does not use Maven for anything, so I think #5 may be
environment-specific.

6. For servlet-3.0-style uploads, Tomcat will write uploaded files
temporarily to the disk (in the work/ directory?) once they exceed the
configured maximum threshold.

OP might want to read the man page for sticky which documents the
sticky bit for directories.

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Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-17 Thread Chris Wise
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Mark Eggers its_toas...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Inline response:

 This is true, but shouldn't be a problem.

 If you're running on a system that has ACL, then you could try the
 following:

 cd $CATALINA_BASE
 setfacl -n -d -m u::rwx,g::rx,o::- logs

 Read the setfacl / getfacl manual pages for more info.

 To restore (remove the access control lists), run the following:

 cd $CATALINA_BASE
 setfacl -b logs


 . . . just my two cents
 /mde/


Hey Mark,

So the ACL option is a no-go.  I'm willing to try your earlier suggestion
of the setenv.sh script, however I'm not sure what files Tomcat creates
other than log files and PID files that creating this script would affect.
Do you have any insight into that?

Appreciate all the help!

Chris


Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-17 Thread Mark Eggers

On 12/17/2013 4:39 AM, Chris Wise wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Mark Eggers its_toas...@yahoo.com wrote:


Inline response:

This is true, but shouldn't be a problem.

If you're running on a system that has ACL, then you could try the
following:

cd $CATALINA_BASE
setfacl -n -d -m u::rwx,g::rx,o::- logs

Read the setfacl / getfacl manual pages for more info.

To restore (remove the access control lists), run the following:

cd $CATALINA_BASE
setfacl -b logs


. . . just my two cents
/mde/



Hey Mark,

So the ACL option is a no-go.  I'm willing to try your earlier suggestion
of the setenv.sh script, however I'm not sure what files Tomcat creates
other than log files and PID files that creating this script would affect.
Do you have any insight into that?

Appreciate all the help!

Chris


Chris,

There are not a lot of files that Tomcat creates.

1. log files, as we have been discussing
2. PID file - if enabled, and that depends on where you write it
3. serialized sessions
4. JSP files - generate a .java file and the corresponding class
5. looks like some Maven stuff may get unpacked in the work directory

I believe the serialized sessions go in java.io.tmpdir, which is 
normally set to $CATALINA_BASE/temp. The JSP files (.jsp, .java, .class) 
end up in $CATALINA_BASE/work/[Engine]/[Host], where [Engine] and [Host] 
are from the Engine and Host elements in your server.xml.


This leaves out the biggest offender of them all - applications. An 
application could write files out to specified directories (think file 
uploading) which then get processed by other external applications. If 
you do this, then potentially any external application will no longer be 
able to manipulate those files.


Only you know your applications, so testing is obviously in order here.

You haven't said much about your environment, so I don't know what other 
impact this will cause.


Did you install Tomcat from tomcat.apache.org, or from a distribution? 
If you installed Tomcat from a distribution repackaging, components get 
scattered everywhere, and the umask trick may cause some problems.


Are you running on an ext3 or ext4 file system? For an ext3-based 
system, you can remount a file system to enable ACL. ACL is enabled by 
default on ext4. Of course if you're running on a cloud platform, you 
may have less control over this.


. . . just my two cents.
/mde/

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Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-16 Thread Chris Wise
Hi,



I’m wondering if there is a way to force Tomcat to set permissions on log
files when they’re created?  It seems as though this would be something
defined in the logging.properties file, but it doesn’t seem like it’s an
option.



I want the permissions of all log files created (on server startup/log
rollover) to be 640.  The only way I can think of doing this is either
adding the command to the startup script, or by running a cron job every
hour or so.  However, if there is a way to make sure the log files are
never more permissive than 640, that would be greatly preferable.



Thank you,


Chris


Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Eggers

On 12/16/2013 4:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote:

Hi,



I’m wondering if there is a way to force Tomcat to set permissions on log
files when they’re created?  It seems as though this would be something
defined in the logging.properties file, but it doesn’t seem like it’s an
option.



I want the permissions of all log files created (on server startup/log
rollover) to be 640.  The only way I can think of doing this is either
adding the command to the startup script, or by running a cron job every
hour or so.  However, if there is a way to make sure the log files are
never more permissive than 640, that would be greatly preferable.



Thank you,


Chris



1. Create a setenv.sh file in $CATALINA_BASE/bin.
2. Add the following:

#!/bin/bash
umask 0026

Seems to work for me - quickly tested on Fedora 19, Tomcat 7.0.42, JRE 
1.7.0_45.


. . . just my two cents
/mde/

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Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-16 Thread Chris Wise
Hey Mark,

Thanks for the response :)

Just a quick question - won't this make ALL files Tomcat creates the same
permissive...ness?  Instead of just the log files?

Thanks again!


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Mark Eggers its_toas...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 12/16/2013 4:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote:

 Hi,



 I’m wondering if there is a way to force Tomcat to set permissions on log
 files when they’re created?  It seems as though this would be something
 defined in the logging.properties file, but it doesn’t seem like it’s an
 option.



 I want the permissions of all log files created (on server startup/log
 rollover) to be 640.  The only way I can think of doing this is either
 adding the command to the startup script, or by running a cron job every
 hour or so.  However, if there is a way to make sure the log files are
 never more permissive than 640, that would be greatly preferable.



 Thank you,


 Chris


 1. Create a setenv.sh file in $CATALINA_BASE/bin.
 2. Add the following:

 #!/bin/bash
 umask 0026

 Seems to work for me - quickly tested on Fedora 19, Tomcat 7.0.42, JRE
 1.7.0_45.

 . . . just my two cents
 /mde/

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Re: Setting log file permissions upon creation?

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Eggers

Inline response:

On 12/16/2013 6:06 PM, Chris Wise wrote:

Hey Mark,

Thanks for the response :)

Just a quick question - won't this make ALL files Tomcat creates the same
permissive...ness?  Instead of just the log files?


This is true, but shouldn't be a problem.

If you're running on a system that has ACL, then you could try the 
following:


cd $CATALINA_BASE
setfacl -n -d -m u::rwx,g::rx,o::- logs

Read the setfacl / getfacl manual pages for more info.

To restore (remove the access control lists), run the following:

cd $CATALINA_BASE
setfacl -b logs

. . . just my two cents
/mde/



Thanks again!


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Mark Eggers its_toas...@yahoo.com wrote:


On 12/16/2013 4:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote:


Hi,



I’m wondering if there is a way to force Tomcat to set permissions on log
files when they’re created?  It seems as though this would be something
defined in the logging.properties file, but it doesn’t seem like it’s an
option.



I want the permissions of all log files created (on server startup/log
rollover) to be 640.  The only way I can think of doing this is either
adding the command to the startup script, or by running a cron job every
hour or so.  However, if there is a way to make sure the log files are
never more permissive than 640, that would be greatly preferable.



Thank you,


Chris



1. Create a setenv.sh file in $CATALINA_BASE/bin.
2. Add the following:

#!/bin/bash
umask 0026

Seems to work for me - quickly tested on Fedora 19, Tomcat 7.0.42, JRE
1.7.0_45.

. . . just my two cents
/mde/



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Re: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?

2013-11-21 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2013/11/21 Fredrik Andersson fredan...@hotmail.com:
 Hello Tomcat-experts!

It is hard to read you message.

 I have recently bought some space at a webhotel that uses Apache HTTP server 
 as front before a Tomcat 6.0.37.My account at the webhotel is said to support 
 Struts and Hibernate and such technics.At home I have developed a app that 
 uses those technics and of course it runs fine in a similar environment as 
 the one at the webhotel. I can deploy my app as a ROOT-app or a ordinary app 
 and the Struts works perfectly.
 At the webhotel I have tried to deploy it booth as a ROOT-app and as a 
 MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0.war-file
 Now I have stripped the app down to just a struts2-hello-world-app.
 But at the webhotel I just keep getting this when I try to access the 
 ActionClass through struts.xml:
 HTTP Status 404 - There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action name 
 [welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].type Status 
 reportmessage There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action name 
 [welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].description The 
 requested resource is not available.

 Unfortenatly the support guys at the webhotel says they lack knowledge of 
 Tomcat so they can not help me out.

If you want to change your hosting provider, there are a number of offers at
http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/PoweredBy#Hosting_providers

 But today I at least found this exception in the catalina.log just after my 
 attempt yo access a struts-path:
 /-- Encapsulated exception \ java.lang.NullPointerException: 
 permission can't be null at 
 java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
 ognl.OgnlRuntime.invokeMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:834) at 
 ognl.OgnlRuntime.callAppropriateMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:1280) at 
 ognl.OgnlRuntime.setMethodValue(OgnlRuntime.java:1481) at 
 ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setPossibleProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:85)
  at ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:162) 
 at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.ObjectAccessor.setProperty(ObjectAccessor.java:27)
  at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.CompoundRootAccessor.setProperty(CompoundRootAccessor.java:77)
  at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
 ognl.ASTProperty.setValueBody(ASTProperty.java:127) at 
 ognl.SimpleNode.evaluateSetValueBody(SimpleNode.java:220) at 
 ognl.SimpleNode.setValue(SimpleNode.java:301) at 
 ognl.Ognl.setValue(Ognl.java:737) at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlUtil.setValue(OgnlUtil.java:217) at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.trySetValue(OgnlValueStack.java:186)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setValue(OgnlValueStack.java:173) 
 at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setParameter(OgnlValueStack.java:151)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.setParameters(ParametersInterceptor.java:292)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:203)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:211)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.StaticParametersInterceptor.intercept(StaticParametersInterceptor.java:190)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 org.apache.struts2.interceptor.MultiselectInterceptor.intercept(MultiselectInterceptor.java:75)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 org.apache.struts2.interceptor.CheckboxInterceptor.intercept(CheckboxInterceptor.java:90)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 org.apache.struts2.interceptor.FileUploadInterceptor.intercept(FileUploadInterceptor.java:243)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ModelDrivenInterceptor.intercept(ModelDrivenInterceptor.java:100)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ScopedModelDrivenInterceptor.intercept(ScopedModelDrivenInterceptor.java:141)
  at 
 com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
  at 
 

RE: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?

2013-11-21 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Hello Konstantin!Thanks for your reply!Yes the message got really hard to read, 
it looked fine when I send it!My apologies for that!I will start to investigate 
your advice right away!Sounds really interesting!I will get back as soon I got 
any new info!Best regards and thanks alot again!/Fredrik

 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:10:58 +0400
 Subject: Re: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?
 From: knst.koli...@gmail.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 
 2013/11/21 Fredrik Andersson fredan...@hotmail.com:
  Hello Tomcat-experts!
 
 It is hard to read you message.
 
  I have recently bought some space at a webhotel that uses Apache HTTP 
  server as front before a Tomcat 6.0.37.My account at the webhotel is said 
  to support Struts and Hibernate and such technics.At home I have developed 
  a app that uses those technics and of course it runs fine in a similar 
  environment as the one at the webhotel. I can deploy my app as a ROOT-app 
  or a ordinary app and the Struts works perfectly.
  At the webhotel I have tried to deploy it booth as a ROOT-app and as a 
  MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0.war-file
  Now I have stripped the app down to just a struts2-hello-world-app.
  But at the webhotel I just keep getting this when I try to access the 
  ActionClass through struts.xml:
  HTTP Status 404 - There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action 
  name [welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].type 
  Status reportmessage There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action 
  name [welcome] associated with context path 
  [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].description The requested resource is not available.
 
  Unfortenatly the support guys at the webhotel says they lack knowledge of 
  Tomcat so they can not help me out.
 
 If you want to change your hosting provider, there are a number of offers at
 http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/PoweredBy#Hosting_providers
 
  But today I at least found this exception in the catalina.log just after my 
  attempt yo access a struts-path:
  /-- Encapsulated exception \ java.lang.NullPointerException: 
  permission can't be null at 
  java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
  java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
  ognl.OgnlRuntime.invokeMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:834) at 
  ognl.OgnlRuntime.callAppropriateMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:1280) at 
  ognl.OgnlRuntime.setMethodValue(OgnlRuntime.java:1481) at 
  ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setPossibleProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:85)
   at 
  ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:162) at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.ObjectAccessor.setProperty(ObjectAccessor.java:27)
   at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.CompoundRootAccessor.setProperty(CompoundRootAccessor.java:77)
   at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
  ognl.ASTProperty.setValueBody(ASTProperty.java:127) at 
  ognl.SimpleNode.evaluateSetValueBody(SimpleNode.java:220) at 
  ognl.SimpleNode.setValue(SimpleNode.java:301) at 
  ognl.Ognl.setValue(Ognl.java:737) at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlUtil.setValue(OgnlUtil.java:217) at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.trySetValue(OgnlValueStack.java:186)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setValue(OgnlValueStack.java:173)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setParameter(OgnlValueStack.java:151)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.setParameters(ParametersInterceptor.java:292)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:203)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:211)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.StaticParametersInterceptor.intercept(StaticParametersInterceptor.java:190)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
   at 
  org.apache.struts2.interceptor.MultiselectInterceptor.intercept(MultiselectInterceptor.java:75)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
   at 
  org.apache.struts2.interceptor.CheckboxInterceptor.intercept(CheckboxInterceptor.java:90)
   at 
  com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
   at 
  org.apache.struts2.interceptor.FileUploadInterceptor.intercept(FileUploadInterceptor.java:243)
   at 
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RE: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?

2013-11-21 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Hello guys!
I started my tomcat at home with catalina.bat start -security.
During startup I at once got a lot of exceptions, please see this 
pastie:http://pastie.org/8499210
When I try to access the webapp I get 404 right away.At the production server I 
at least could access the jsp:s direct, but through struts I got 404.Now at 
home I just get 404 in both ways.
One interesting thing is that it looks like the app do not got permissions to 
load the struts-default.xml:
Caused by: Caught exception while loading file struts-default.xml
...that could be the same issue in production since no struts is working at all.
I have not worked with permissions before but examing the catalina.policy with 
polycytool I see there is alot of settings like:java.util.PropertyPermission 
java.vm.version read...that I guess means that it is OK to read the 
System.getProperty(java.vm.version);
If you draw any conclusion about my app like is there any permission I need to 
set to make it work (I guess it must be able to read struts-default.xml for 
eg), please let me know. 
Then I will get in contact with the webhotel-support and try to ask them to 
tell me if they got that permission-settings.
Best regardsFredrik




 From: fredan...@hotmail.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: RE: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?
 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:46:07 +
 
 Hello Konstantin!Thanks for your reply!Yes the message got really hard to 
 read, it looked fine when I send it!My apologies for that!I will start to 
 investigate your advice right away!Sounds really interesting!I will get back 
 as soon I got any new info!Best regards and thanks alot again!/Fredrik
 
  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:10:58 +0400
  Subject: Re: 404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?
  From: knst.koli...@gmail.com
  To: users@tomcat.apache.org
  
  2013/11/21 Fredrik Andersson fredan...@hotmail.com:
   Hello Tomcat-experts!
  
  It is hard to read you message.
  
   I have recently bought some space at a webhotel that uses Apache HTTP 
   server as front before a Tomcat 6.0.37.My account at the webhotel is said 
   to support Struts and Hibernate and such technics.At home I have 
   developed a app that uses those technics and of course it runs fine in a 
   similar environment as the one at the webhotel. I can deploy my app as a 
   ROOT-app or a ordinary app and the Struts works perfectly.
   At the webhotel I have tried to deploy it booth as a ROOT-app and as a 
   MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0.war-file
   Now I have stripped the app down to just a struts2-hello-world-app.
   But at the webhotel I just keep getting this when I try to access the 
   ActionClass through struts.xml:
   HTTP Status 404 - There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action 
   name [welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].type 
   Status reportmessage There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and 
   action name [welcome] associated with context path 
   [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].description The requested resource is not available.
  
   Unfortenatly the support guys at the webhotel says they lack knowledge of 
   Tomcat so they can not help me out.
  
  If you want to change your hosting provider, there are a number of offers at
  http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/PoweredBy#Hosting_providers
  
   But today I at least found this exception in the catalina.log just after 
   my attempt yo access a struts-path:
   /-- Encapsulated exception \ java.lang.NullPointerException: 
   permission can't be null at 
   java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
   java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
   ognl.OgnlRuntime.invokeMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:834) at 
   ognl.OgnlRuntime.callAppropriateMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:1280) at 
   ognl.OgnlRuntime.setMethodValue(OgnlRuntime.java:1481) at 
   ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setPossibleProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:85)
at 
   ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:162) 
   at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.ObjectAccessor.setProperty(ObjectAccessor.java:27)
at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.CompoundRootAccessor.setProperty(CompoundRootAccessor.java:77)
at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
   ognl.ASTProperty.setValueBody(ASTProperty.java:127) at 
   ognl.SimpleNode.evaluateSetValueBody(SimpleNode.java:220) at 
   ognl.SimpleNode.setValue(SimpleNode.java:301) at 
   ognl.Ognl.setValue(Ognl.java:737) at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlUtil.setValue(OgnlUtil.java:217) at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.trySetValue(OgnlValueStack.java:186)
at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setValue(OgnlValueStack.java:173)
at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setParameter(OgnlValueStack.java:151)
at 
   com.opensymphony.xwork2

404 - Might there be something wrong with my permissions?

2013-11-20 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Hello Tomcat-experts!
I have recently bought some space at a webhotel that uses Apache HTTP server as 
front before a Tomcat 6.0.37.My account at the webhotel is said to support 
Struts and Hibernate and such technics.At home I have developed a app that uses 
those technics and of course it runs fine in a similar environment as the one 
at the webhotel. I can deploy my app as a ROOT-app or a ordinary app and the 
Struts works perfectly.
At the webhotel I have tried to deploy it booth as a ROOT-app and as a 
MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0.war-file
Now I have stripped the app down to just a struts2-hello-world-app.
But at the webhotel I just keep getting this when I try to access the 
ActionClass through struts.xml:
HTTP Status 404 - There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action name 
[welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].type Status 
reportmessage There is no Action mapped for namespace [/] and action name 
[welcome] associated with context path [/MYAPP-webapp-1.0.0].description The 
requested resource is not available.
Unfortenatly the support guys at the webhotel says they lack knowledge of 
Tomcat so they can not help me out.But today I at least found this exception in 
the catalina.log just after my attempt yo access a struts-path:
/-- Encapsulated exception \ java.lang.NullPointerException: 
permission can't be null at 
java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Unknown Source) at 
ognl.OgnlRuntime.invokeMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:834) at 
ognl.OgnlRuntime.callAppropriateMethod(OgnlRuntime.java:1280) at 
ognl.OgnlRuntime.setMethodValue(OgnlRuntime.java:1481) at 
ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setPossibleProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:85) 
at ognl.ObjectPropertyAccessor.setProperty(ObjectPropertyAccessor.java:162) at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.ObjectAccessor.setProperty(ObjectAccessor.java:27)
 at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.accessor.CompoundRootAccessor.setProperty(CompoundRootAccessor.java:77)
 at ognl.OgnlRuntime.setProperty(OgnlRuntime.java:2318) at 
ognl.ASTProperty.setValueBody(ASTProperty.java:127) at 
ognl.SimpleNode.evaluateSetValueBody(SimpleNode.java:220) at 
ognl.SimpleNode.setValue(SimpleNode.java:301) at 
ognl.Ognl.setValue(Ognl.java:737) at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlUtil.setValue(OgnlUtil.java:217) at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.trySetValue(OgnlValueStack.java:186)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setValue(OgnlValueStack.java:173) 
at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.ognl.OgnlValueStack.setParameter(OgnlValueStack.java:151)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.setParameters(ParametersInterceptor.java:292)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:203)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ParametersInterceptor.doIntercept(ParametersInterceptor.java:211)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.MethodFilterInterceptor.intercept(MethodFilterInterceptor.java:98)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.StaticParametersInterceptor.intercept(StaticParametersInterceptor.java:190)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
org.apache.struts2.interceptor.MultiselectInterceptor.intercept(MultiselectInterceptor.java:75)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
org.apache.struts2.interceptor.CheckboxInterceptor.intercept(CheckboxInterceptor.java:90)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
org.apache.struts2.interceptor.FileUploadInterceptor.intercept(FileUploadInterceptor.java:243)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ModelDrivenInterceptor.intercept(ModelDrivenInterceptor.java:100)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ScopedModelDrivenInterceptor.intercept(ScopedModelDrivenInterceptor.java:141)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.ChainingInterceptor.intercept(ChainingInterceptor.java:145)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.DefaultActionInvocation.invoke(DefaultActionInvocation.java:249)
 at 
com.opensymphony.xwork2.interceptor.PrepareInterceptor.doIntercept(PrepareInterceptor.java:171)
 at 

Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-31 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Scott,

On 7/30/13 1:51 PM, sderrick wrote:
 The host we use, uses the java service wrapper to launch tomcat so
 I added
 
 wrapper.java.umask=0002
 
 to the .conf file.
 
 Now I can ratchet the the permissions down with PosixFilePermisions
 
 
 All is well now.

So, Java won't override a process umask. Interesting.

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Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-30 Thread techienote . com
Hi Scott,

Try following

1. Stop the services
2. Set the umask to 002. Command for the same is umask 022
3. Start the services

Remember you need to perform all above in a single shell/terminal.

Above umask will give permissions are as follows
Directory 775
File 664

Regards,
Vidyadhar
Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:16:57 
To: Tomcat Users Listusers@tomcat.apache.org
Reply-To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories

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Scott,

On 7/29/13 8:36 PM, Scott Derrick wrote:
 I am using tomcat7, on centOS6
 
 The app crates a folder, uploads a file to the folder,  processes
 the file and then provides a download link to the resulting file.
 All this works fine on a tomcat7 server running on my desktop
 machine. Running tomcat7 on the server, its broke.
 
 I create the folder, OK. I upload the file, OK I run the first
 process, NOT!
 
 I've tracked it down the permissions on the created folders.  They
 don't have write access on the group, so the write fails.  If I
 manually change the permission to 0760 it works fine. I specify
 write permissions when I create the folder but it doesn't get set.

Pesky Java 7 API. I'll have to read-up on that some time.

 Its always drwxr-x--- My code in the servlet is
 
 */ Path imagePath = Paths.get(baseDir, user, Accession, 
 Accession); SetPosixFilePermission perms = 
 PosixFilePermissions.fromString(rwxrwxr--); 
 FileAttributeSetlt;PosixFilePermission attr = 
 PosixFilePermissions.asFileAttribute(perms); 
 Files.createDirectory(imagePath.toAbsolutePath(), attr);/ *
 
 The permissions must be overridden somewhere.  If I apply a more 
 restrictive permission, say 0600, that gets set correctly., I can't
 seem to set the group permission to writable.
 
 Any ideas!  I've been banging on this for hours!

Any idea how PosixFilePermissions works with the process's umask? What
kind of filesystem is it? What is the umask of the process?

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Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-30 Thread sderrick

  

  
  
Vidyadhar, 

    thanks for the tip! 

    The host we use, uses the java service wrapper to launch tomcat
so I added 

    wrapper.java.umask=0002 

    to the .conf file. 

    Now I can ratchet the the permissions down with
PosixFilePermisions 

    All is well now. 

thanks again, 

Scott 


 Original Message  
  Subject: Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories 
  From: Techienote com [via Tomcat]
  lt;ml-node+s10n500236...@n6.nabble.comgt; 
  To: sderrick lt;sc...@tnstaafl.netgt; 
  Date: 07/30/2013 08:52 AM 

 Hi Scott,
  
  
  Try following
  
  
  1. Stop the services
  
  2. Set the umask to 002. Command for the same is umask 022
  
  3. Start the services
  
  
  Remember you need to perform all above in a single shell/terminal.
  
  
  Above umask will give permissions are as follows
  
  Directory 775
  
  File 664
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Vidyadhar
  
  Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
  
  
  -Original Message-
  
  From: Christopher Schultz lt; [hidden email] gt;
  
  Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:16:57 
  To: Tomcat Users Listlt; [hidden email] gt;
  
  Reply-To: Tomcat Users List lt; [hidden email] gt;
  
  Subject: Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories
  
  
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  Scott,
  
  
  On 7/29/13 8:36 PM, Scott Derrick wrote:
  
gt; I am using tomcat7, on centOS6

gt; 
gt; The app crates a folder, uploads a file to the folder,
 processes

gt; the file and then provides a download link to the resulting
file.

gt; All this works fine on a tomcat7 server running on my
desktop

gt; machine. Running tomcat7 on the server, its broke.

gt; 
gt; I create the folder, OK. I upload the file, OK I run the
first

gt; process, NOT!

gt; 
gt; I've tracked it down the permissions on the created
folders.  They

gt; don't have write access on the group, so the write fails.
 If I

gt; manually change the permission to 0760 it works fine. I
specify

gt; write permissions when I create the folder but it doesn't
get set.
  
  
  Pesky Java 7 API. I'll have to read-up on that some time.
  
  
gt; Its always drwxr-x--- My code in the servlet is

gt; 
gt; */ Path imagePath = Paths.get(baseDir, user, Accession, 
gt; Accession); Setlt;PosixFilePermissiongt; perms = 
gt; PosixFilePermissions.fromString(rwxrwxr--); 
gt; FileAttributelt;Setamp;lt;PosixFilePermissiongt;gt;
attr = 
gt; PosixFilePermissions.asFileAttribute(perms); 
gt; Files.createDirectory(imagePath.toAbsolutePath(), attr);/ *

gt; 
gt; The permissions must be overridden somewhere.  If I apply a
more 
gt; restrictive permission, say 0600, that gets set correctly.,
I can't

gt; seem to set the group permission to writable.

gt; 
gt; Any ideas!  I've been banging on this for hours!
  
  
  Any idea how PosixFilePermissions works with the process's umask?
  What
  
  kind of filesystem is it? What is the umask of the process?
  
  
  - -chris
  
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Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-29 Thread Scott Derrick

I am using tomcat7, on centOS6

The app crates a folder, uploads a file to the folder,  processes the file
and then provides a download link to the resulting file.  All this works
fine on a tomcat7 server running on my desktop machine.
Running tomcat7 on the server, its broke.

I create the folder, OK.
I upload the file, OK
I run the first process, NOT!

I've tracked it down the permissions on the created folders.  They don't
have write access on the group, so the write fails.  If I manually change
the permission to 0760 it works fine.
I specify write permissions when I create the folder but it doesn't get set.
Its always drwxr-x---
My code in the servlet is

   */ Path imagePath = Paths.get(baseDir, user, Accession,
Accession);
SetPosixFilePermission perms =
PosixFilePermissions.fromString(rwxrwxr--);
FileAttributeSetlt;PosixFilePermission attr =
PosixFilePermissions.asFileAttribute(perms);
Files.createDirectory(imagePath.toAbsolutePath(), attr);/
*

The permissions must be overridden somewhere.  If I apply a more restrictive
permission, say 0600, that gets set correctly., I can't seem to set the
group permission to writable.

Any ideas!  I've been banging on this for hours!

thanks,

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Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-29 Thread sderrick
I am using tomcat7, on centOS6

The app crates a folder, uploads a file to the folder,  processes the file
and then provides a download link to the resulting file.  All this works
fine on a tomcat7 server running on my desktop machine.
Running tomcat7 on the server, its broke. 

I create the folder, OK.
I upload the file, OK
I run the first process, NOT!

I've tracked it down the permissions on the created folders.  They don't
have write access on the group, so the write fails.  If I manually change
the permission to 0760 it works fine.  
I specify write permissions when I create the folder but it doesn't get set.
Its always drwxr-x---
My code in the servlet is 

*/Path imagePath = Paths.get(baseDir, user, Accession, Accession);
SetPosixFilePermission perms =
PosixFilePermissions.fromString(rwxrwxr--);   
FileAttributeSetamp;lt;PosixFilePermission attr =
PosixFilePermissions.asFileAttribute(perms);
Files.createDirectory(imagePath.toAbsolutePath(), attr);/
*
The permissions must be overridden somewhere.  If I apply a more restrictive
permission, say 0600, that gets set correctly., I can't seem to set the
group permission to writable.

Any ideas!  I've been banging on this for hours! 

thanks,

Scott




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Re: Controlling permissions when creating directories

2013-07-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Scott,

On 7/29/13 8:36 PM, Scott Derrick wrote:
 I am using tomcat7, on centOS6
 
 The app crates a folder, uploads a file to the folder,  processes
 the file and then provides a download link to the resulting file.
 All this works fine on a tomcat7 server running on my desktop
 machine. Running tomcat7 on the server, its broke.
 
 I create the folder, OK. I upload the file, OK I run the first
 process, NOT!
 
 I've tracked it down the permissions on the created folders.  They
 don't have write access on the group, so the write fails.  If I
 manually change the permission to 0760 it works fine. I specify
 write permissions when I create the folder but it doesn't get set.

Pesky Java 7 API. I'll have to read-up on that some time.

 Its always drwxr-x--- My code in the servlet is
 
 */ Path imagePath = Paths.get(baseDir, user, Accession, 
 Accession); SetPosixFilePermission perms = 
 PosixFilePermissions.fromString(rwxrwxr--); 
 FileAttributeSetlt;PosixFilePermission attr = 
 PosixFilePermissions.asFileAttribute(perms); 
 Files.createDirectory(imagePath.toAbsolutePath(), attr);/ *
 
 The permissions must be overridden somewhere.  If I apply a more 
 restrictive permission, say 0600, that gets set correctly., I can't
 seem to set the group permission to writable.
 
 Any ideas!  I've been banging on this for hours!

Any idea how PosixFilePermissions works with the process's umask? What
kind of filesystem is it? What is the umask of the process?

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Re: Tomcat running with a shared unix group but unable to read files with group permissions

2012-09-07 Thread Peter Benko
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 10:50:30AM -0700, Udam Dewaraja wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm stumped on a seemingly java/tomcat related issue and am hoping someone
 can provide some help.
 
 
 We have two users ('user1' and 'user2') on our linux server that share the
 same group ('group1'). User 'user1' writes some files that have the
 following permissions:
 
 -rw-r- 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log
 
 The folder containing this file has the following permissions:
 
 drwxr-xr--  2 user1 group1  4096 Sep  5 19:42 log
 
 
 The tomcat web app is launched as user 'user2'. Below is the ps output for
 the process. I've also verified that the java web app is running with gid
 of the shared group 'group1'.
 
 
 user231920 31919 99 21:30 ?00:00:36 /usr/local/jre/bin/java
  org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start
 
 When the web app tries to read the file, *it gets the following exception*:
 
 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /foo/bar/data/log/file.log (Permission
 denied)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.open(Native Method)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:233)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:118)
 …
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679)
 
 
 However, while logged in as 'user2', I can run a simple
 cat /foo/bar/data/log/file.log and* I can read the contents of the file*.
 
 Also, if I provide 'other' read permissions to the file (e.g. -rw-r--r--
 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log), *the web app is able to read
 the file*.
 
 If I write a sample java application that tries to read this file and
 execute it while logged in as 'user2', again *Java is able to read the file.
 *
 
 
 Tomcat doesn't seem to be using any security policy as far as I can tell.
 Any ideas why the group permissions seem to be ignored by tomcat?
 

Please try to check ulimit (pam) settings in your OS.

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Tomcat running with a shared unix group but unable to read files with group permissions

2012-09-06 Thread Udam Dewaraja
Hi all,

I'm stumped on a seemingly java/tomcat related issue and am hoping someone
can provide some help.


We have two users ('user1' and 'user2') on our linux server that share the
same group ('group1'). User 'user1' writes some files that have the
following permissions:

-rw-r- 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log

The folder containing this file has the following permissions:

drwxr-xr--  2 user1 group1  4096 Sep  5 19:42 log


The tomcat web app is launched as user 'user2'. Below is the ps output for
the process. I've also verified that the java web app is running with gid
of the shared group 'group1'.


user231920 31919 99 21:30 ?00:00:36 /usr/local/jre/bin/java
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start

When the web app tries to read the file, *it gets the following exception*:

java.io.FileNotFoundException: /foo/bar/data/log/file.log (Permission
denied)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.open(Native Method)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:233)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:118)
…
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679)


However, while logged in as 'user2', I can run a simple
cat /foo/bar/data/log/file.log and* I can read the contents of the file*.

Also, if I provide 'other' read permissions to the file (e.g. -rw-r--r--
1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log), *the web app is able to read
the file*.

If I write a sample java application that tries to read this file and
execute it while logged in as 'user2', again *Java is able to read the file.
*


Tomcat doesn't seem to be using any security policy as far as I can tell.
Any ideas why the group permissions seem to be ignored by tomcat?


Thanks!

Udam


Re: Tomcat running with a shared unix group but unable to read files with group permissions

2012-09-06 Thread André Warnier

Udam Dewaraja wrote:

Hi all,

I'm stumped on a seemingly java/tomcat related issue and am hoping someone
can provide some help.


We have two users ('user1' and 'user2') on our linux server that share the
same group ('group1'). User 'user1' writes some files that have the
following permissions:

-rw-r- 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log

The folder containing this file has the following permissions:

drwxr-xr--  2 user1 group1  4096 Sep  5 19:42 log


The tomcat web app is launched as user 'user2'. Below is the ps output for
the process. I've also verified that the java web app is running with gid
of the shared group 'group1'.


user231920 31919 99 21:30 ?00:00:36 /usr/local/jre/bin/java
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start

When the web app tries to read the file, *it gets the following exception*:

java.io.FileNotFoundException: /foo/bar/data/log/file.log (Permission
denied)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.open(Native Method)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:233)
at java.io.RandomAccessFile.init(RandomAccessFile.java:118)
…
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679)


However, while logged in as 'user2', I can run a simple
cat /foo/bar/data/log/file.log and* I can read the contents of the file*.

Also, if I provide 'other' read permissions to the file (e.g. -rw-r--r--
1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log), *the web app is able to read
the file*.

If I write a sample java application that tries to read this file and
execute it while logged in as 'user2', again *Java is able to read the file.
*


Tomcat doesn't seem to be using any security policy as far as I can tell.
Any ideas why the group permissions seem to be ignored by tomcat?



Nothing to do with Tomcat I think.
Maybe it is because java.io.RandomAccessFile is a read/write kind of file, and the group 
just has read permission ?

All your tests involve reading, not writing, and reading is allowed for the 
group.

Google for java.io.RandomAccessFile.

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Re: Tomcat running with a shared unix group but unable to read files with group permissions

2012-09-06 Thread Udam Dewaraja
In my code, the RandomAccess file is trying to do a read (code below).
That's why all my tests are doing reads.

logFile = new RandomAccessFile(fileToRead, r);

The sample java application I ran executes the exact same line above (with
the same file) and reads the contents correctly. However, in Tomcat webapp,
this fails.

Thanks,
Udam

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Udam Dewaraja wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm stumped on a seemingly java/tomcat related issue and am hoping someone
 can provide some help.


 We have two users ('user1' and 'user2') on our linux server that share the
 same group ('group1'). User 'user1' writes some files that have the
 following permissions:

 -rw-r- 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log

 The folder containing this file has the following permissions:

 drwxr-xr--  2 user1 group1  4096 Sep  5 19:42 log


 The tomcat web app is launched as user 'user2'. Below is the ps output for
 the process. I've also verified that the java web app is running with gid
 of the shared group 'group1'.


 user231920 31919 99 21:30 ?00:00:36 /usr/local/jre/bin/java
  org.apache.catalina.startup.**Bootstrap start

 When the web app tries to read the file, *it gets the following
 exception*:


 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /foo/bar/data/log/file.log (Permission
 denied)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.open(**Native Method)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.**init(RandomAccessFile.java:**233)
 at java.io.RandomAccessFile.**init(RandomAccessFile.java:**118)
 …
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.**java:679)


 However, while logged in as 'user2', I can run a simple
 cat /foo/bar/data/log/file.log and* I can read the contents of the file*.


 Also, if I provide 'other' read permissions to the file (e.g. -rw-r--r--
 1 user1 group1  788 Sep  5 19:42 file.log), *the web app is able to read
 the file*.


 If I write a sample java application that tries to read this file and
 execute it while logged in as 'user2', again *Java is able to read the
 file.

 *


 Tomcat doesn't seem to be using any security policy as far as I can tell.
 Any ideas why the group permissions seem to be ignored by tomcat?


  Nothing to do with Tomcat I think.
 Maybe it is because java.io.RandomAccessFile is a read/write kind of file,
 and the group just has read permission ?
 All your tests involve reading, not writing, and reading is allowed for
 the group.

 Google for java.io.RandomAccessFile.

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Re: Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-18 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2012/1/17 deniz denizdurmu...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 I am getting a weird error on tomcat 7. at first  i deploy my war file and
 everything is smooth.. but after some time - randomly - i cant access
 anything on tomcat and in the log file I see these lines:
 code
 Jan 17, 2012 11:37:37 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor run
 SEVERE: Socket accept failed
 java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
 (java.net.SocketPermission 127.0.0.1:50092 accept,resolve)
        at
 java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:366)
        at
 java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:555)
        at
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:549)
        at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkAccept(SecurityManager.java:1174)
        at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:526)
        at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:490)
        at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.DefaultServerSocketFactory.acceptSocket(DefaultServerSocketFactory.java:60)
        at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor.run(JIoEndpoint.java:207)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
 /code

 i have to kill tomcat and then after some time it happens again... any
 ideas?


The catalina.policy file that comes with Tomcat grants AllPermission
to both Tomcat and JRE libs (${catalina.home}/lib/-,
${java.home}/lib/-).

The stacktrace that you show above, as well as ones in [1] all show
only Tomcat or JRE classes,  so all permissions must be granted,
unless there is something that I miss.

What is puzzling is that you say that the failure starts to occur randomly.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52482

You have to be more specific about your configuration (OS, JRE
version, Tomcat settings (server.xml without comments)) and try to
provide a scenario to reproduce the issue on a clean installation of
Tomcat.

While the issue cannot be reproduced and if nobody here on users@ is
able to reproduce it or find some clues, filing an issue in bugzilla
is useless, as we cannot proceed from there if the issue is not
understood.  It might as well be some configuration error or
programming error in the web application.

You may want to
1. Reconfigure your logging to use the following formatter:
org.apache.juli.OneLineFormatter

E.g.:
1catalina.org.apache.juli.FileHandler.formatter =
org.apache.juli.OneLineFormatter

It prints current thread name with each log message.

2. Reconfigure your access log to include thread name in the access log (%I)

Maybe you can find what requests were handled by those threads before
the failure starts to occurs.

Thus far I do not observe any issues with Tomcat 7.0.25, JDK 1.7.0.

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Re: Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-18 Thread deniz
Well thank you for your kind responses... i have found out the problem
today... i have been focused on a wrong place... although logs were showing
clear exceptions and errors, the problem was in java classes of my webapp
not jsps nor tomcat itself... 

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Re: Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-17 Thread Pid
On 17/01/2012 03:44, deniz wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am getting a weird error on tomcat 7. at first  i deploy my war file and
 everything is smooth.. but after some time - randomly - i cant access
 anything on tomcat and in the log file I see these lines: 

Exactly which version, Tomcat 7.0.?


p


 code
 Jan 17, 2012 11:37:37 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor run
 SEVERE: Socket accept failed
 java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
 (java.net.SocketPermission 127.0.0.1:50092 accept,resolve)
 at
 java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:366)
 at
 java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:555)
 at
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:549)
 at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkAccept(SecurityManager.java:1174)
 at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:526)
 at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:490)
 at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.DefaultServerSocketFactory.acceptSocket(DefaultServerSocketFactory.java:60)
 at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor.run(JIoEndpoint.java:207)
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
 /code
 
 i have to kill tomcat and then after some time it happens again... any
 ideas?
 
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Re: Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-17 Thread deniz
7.0.23


is this a bug in this version?

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Re: Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-17 Thread eprost
 Exactly which version, Tomcat 7.0.?

7.0.23

 On 17/01/2012 03:44, deniz wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am getting a weird error on tomcat 7. at first  i deploy my war file
 and
 everything is smooth.. but after some time - randomly - i cant access
 anything on tomcat and in the log file I see these lines:

 Exactly which version, Tomcat 7.0.?


 p


 code
 Jan 17, 2012 11:37:37 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor
 run
 SEVERE: Socket accept failed
 java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
 (java.net.SocketPermission 127.0.0.1:50092 accept,resolve)
 at
 java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:366)
 at
 java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:555)
 at
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:549)
 at
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkAccept(SecurityManager.java:1174)
 at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:526)
 at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:490)
 at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.DefaultServerSocketFactory.acceptSocket(DefaultServerSocketFactory.java:60)
 at
 org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor.run(JIoEndpoint.java:207)
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
 /code

 i have to kill tomcat and then after some time it happens again... any
 ideas?

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Tomcat 7 JDK 7 access permissions: error or bug?

2012-01-16 Thread deniz
Hi all,

I am getting a weird error on tomcat 7. at first  i deploy my war file and
everything is smooth.. but after some time - randomly - i cant access
anything on tomcat and in the log file I see these lines: 
code
Jan 17, 2012 11:37:37 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor run
SEVERE: Socket accept failed
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission 127.0.0.1:50092 accept,resolve)
at
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:366)
at
java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:555)
at
java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:549)
at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkAccept(SecurityManager.java:1174)
at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:526)
at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:490)
at
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.DefaultServerSocketFactory.acceptSocket(DefaultServerSocketFactory.java:60)
at
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Acceptor.run(JIoEndpoint.java:207)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
/code

i have to kill tomcat and then after some time it happens again... any
ideas?

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Tomcat file permissions

2011-08-02 Thread Richard Frovarp
We're launching Tomcat 7 under Linux using jsvc, and having it run under 
the tomcat7 user we created.


The issue we're seeing is that we had a webapp that was misconfigured, 
so that the tomcat7 user and all groups it is under did not have read 
access to the files. These files do not have world read set. However, 
the webapp is working just fine and must be reading those files.


It is acting as though it is running as root, but I can clearly see the 
second jsvc process running as tomcat7.


Does anyone know why it appears to be having root read on the 
filesystem? Or is this a Commons Daemon question?


Thanks,
Richard

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Re: Tomcat file permissions

2011-08-02 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2011/8/2 Richard Frovarp rfrov...@apache.org:
 We're launching Tomcat 7 under Linux using jsvc, and having it run under the
 tomcat7 user we created.

For record, what exact versions of each, especially of jsvc?

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Re: Tomcat file permissions

2011-08-02 Thread Richard Frovarp

On 08/02/2011 03:37 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:

2011/8/2 Richard Frovarprfrov...@apache.org:

We're launching Tomcat 7 under Linux using jsvc, and having it run under the
tomcat7 user we created.


For record, what exact versions of each, especially of jsvc?



Tomcat 7.0.16
JSVC 1.0.5

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[SECURITY] CVE-2010-3718 Apache Tomcat Local bypass of security manger file permissions

2011-02-04 Thread Mark Thomas
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CVE-2010-3718 Apache Tomcat Local bypass of security manger file permissions

Severity: Low

Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation

Versions Affected:
- - Tomcat 7.0.0 to 7.0.3
- - Tomcat 6.0.0 to 6.0.?
- - Tomcat 5.5.0 to 5.5.?
- - Earlier, unsupported versions may also be affected

Description:
When running under a SecurityManager, access to the file system is
limited but web applications are granted read/write permissions to the
work directory. This directory is used for a variety of temporary files
such as the intermediate files generated when compiling JSPs to Servlets.
The location of the work directory is specified by a ServletContect
attribute that is meant to be read-only to web applications. However,
due to a coding error, the read-only setting was not applied. Therefore
a malicious web application may modify the attribute before Tomcat
applies the file permissions. This can be used to grant read/write
permissions to any area on the file system which a malicious web
application may then take advantage of.
This vulnerability is only applicable when hosting web applications from
untrusted sources such as shared hosting environments.

Example (AL2 licensed):

Listener source
- ---
package listeners;
import javax.servlet.ServletContext;
import javax.servlet.ServletContextEvent;
import javax.servlet.ServletContextListener;

public final class FooListener implements ServletContextListener {
public void contextInitialized(ServletContextEvent event) {
ServletContext context = event.getServletContext();
java.io.File workdir = (java.io.File) context
.getAttribute(javax.servlet.context.tempdir);
if (workdir.toString().indexOf(..)  0) {
context.setAttribute(javax.servlet.context.tempdir,
new java.io.File(workdir, ../../../../conf));
}
}
public void contextDestroyed(ServletContextEvent event) {
}
}

web.xml snippet
- ---
listener
  listener-classlisteners.FooListener/listener-class
/listener


Mitigation:
Users of affected versions should apply one of the following mitigations:
- - Upgrade to a Tomcat version where this issue is fixed
- - Undeploy all web applications from untrusted sources

Credit:
The issue was identified by the Tomcat security team.

References:
http://tomcat.apache.org/security.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/security-7.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/security-6.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/security-5.html
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Re: Problem with security permissions and access denied page for ldap users

2008-12-19 Thread an...@iguanait.com
Any suggestions about my problem?


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Problem with security permissions and access denied page for ldap users

2008-12-18 Thread an...@iguanait.com
Hi,

i installed bedework calendar server and i'm trying to get bedework to
authenticate using LDAP. I added ldap jar files to the lib folder and
added this realm to server.xml file

 Realm className=org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm debug=99
connectionName=cn=Manager,dc=mydomain,dc=com
connectionPassword=mypass
connectionURL=ldap://localhost:389;
userPattern=uid={0},ou=Users,dc=mydomain,dc=com
roleBase=ou=Groups,dc=mypass,dc=com
roleName=cn
roleSearch=(uniqueUid={0})
/

The problem is that when i access web page and enter user and password,
i get access denied page. I suppose that the reaspm is that users from
ldap has no access to these pages. What do i need to do to to give
access to these users, how to solve this problem?

I think that i configured bedework right and allowed ldap there, the
only problem that i get right now is this tomcat security issue.

I read a lot of posts related with tomcat security and this problem, but
i still cannot solve it.

Please help to solve this problem.

If you need more info, please tell me, then i will post it here.

Thanks in advanced!



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Re: WARNING: User database is not persistable - no write permissions on directory

2008-11-07 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Dimas,

Dimas wrote:
 I've installed an Ubuntu Server 8.10 with the Tomcat6 package. When I
 start it this msg appears on the Catalina log:
 
 WARNING: User database is not persistable - no write permissions on
 directory

 Do you know why?

My guess is that you don't have write permissions on the directory where
the user database exists(!).

Tomcat is running as what user? The user database is owned by what user?
The directory where that user database resides is owned by what user?

Note that unless you are using the manager application to modify users,
this warning is not relevant to you.

 Anyway the Tomcat starts OK, but when I deploy an
 application (JasperServer 3.0) it doesn't start with more permissions
 errors on the log:
 
 Catalina log
 Nov 7, 2008 2:48:10 PM org.apache.catalina.core.NamingContextListener
 addResource
 WARNING: Failed to register in JMX: javax.naming.NamingException: Could
 not create resource factory instance [Root exception is
 java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
 org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory]

Now /that's/ a bigger problem: your Tomcat install is broken. Tomcat
ships with DBCP and should always be found. Have you been playing with
any of the JAR files that come with Tomcat? Have you added anything to
Tomcat's library directories? Have you deployed DBCP along with your own
application? If not, you should talk to the Ubuntu folks about their
broken Tomcat6 package, because this doesn't happen when you install
from Tomcat's official distribution.


 SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance
 of class org.springframework.web.util.Log4jConfigListener
 java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
 (java.util.PropertyPermission jasperserver.root read)

You also don't have proper permissions to your log directory.

 I tried to chown all tomcat6 directory to the tomcat6 user, and make a
 777 pemission folder, but no result :(

I'm guessing that this is not standard procedure when using a packaged
version of Tomcat. I recommend asking for help on the Ubuntu Tomcat forums.

Please note that I'm not simply trying to get you to go away: this is an
Ubuntu problem and we have been told in the past that we should refer
these kinds of problems to /their/ forums instead of stamping our feet
and telling their users to discard their packages (which is typically
what we do, because it nearly /always/ works). So, help the Ubuntu folks
make things better and they'll also be better equipped to give you more
information about a standard Ubuntu Tomcat install.

Hope that helps,
- -chris
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WARNING: User database is not persistable - no write permissions on directory

2008-11-07 Thread Dimas

Hi,

I've installed an Ubuntu Server 8.10 with the Tomcat6 package. When I 
start it this msg appears on the Catalina log:


WARNING: User database is not persistable - no write permissions on 
directory


Do you know why? Anyway the Tomcat starts OK, but when I deploy an 
application (JasperServer 3.0) it doesn't start with more permissions 
errors on the log:


Catalina log
Nov 7, 2008 2:48:10 PM org.apache.catalina.core.NamingContextListener 
addResource
WARNING: Failed to register in JMX: javax.naming.NamingException: Could 
not create resource factory instance [Root exception is 
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory]

...
Nov 7, 2008 2:48:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
SEVERE: Error listenerStart
Nov 7, 2008 2:48:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
SEVERE: Context [/jasperserver] startup failed due to previous errors

Localhost log

SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance 
of class org.springframework.web.util.Log4jConfigListener
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
(java.util.PropertyPermission jasperserver.root read)

...
SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance 
of class org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanDefinitionStoreException: Error 
registering bean with name 'fileVirtualizerFactory' defined in 
ServletContext resource [/WEB-INF/applicationContext.xml]: Could not 
resolve placeholder 'java.io.tmpdir'

...
SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance 
of class com.tonbeller.tbutils.res.ResourcesFactoryContextListener

java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
...
Caused by: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
(java.util.PropertyPermission tbeller.InitialResourceProvider read)

...
SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance 
of class 
com.jaspersoft.jasperserver.war.util.SecurityContextHolderStrategyInitializer

java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
...
SEVERE: Exception sending context destroyed event to listener instance 
of class org.springframework.web.util.Log4jConfigListener
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
(java.util.PropertyPermission * read,write)


I tried to chown all tomcat6 directory to the tomcat6 user, and make a 
777 pemission folder, but no result :(


Any suggestion?

Thx!

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http://www.dimas.cat



Re: Permissions for Sun JSF RI and Security Manager under Tomcat 6.0?

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Anstis
Hi,

I think I have found the cause!

My application code contains the following:-

FacesContext fc = FacesContext.getCurrentInstance();
ExpressionFactory ef = fc.getApplication().getExpressionFactory();
ELContext elc = fc.getELContext();
ValueExpression ve = ef.createValueExpression(elc, expr, clazz);
Object result = ve.getValue(elc);

The implementation of javax.el.ValueExpression is org.apache.jasper.el.
JspValueExpression which is in the org.apache.jasper.el package. Access to
this package is prevented by default by the catalina.properties file!
Hurrah, problem resolved!

However I still need somebody official to confirm this - as my hosting
company wants some official statement.

I will cross-post to the developer mailing list (so sorry to those affected)
in case this is more of a development issue.

Can anybody confirm and provide an official statement about the
programmatic use of EL and security settings?

Thanks,

 Mike


On 24/06/2008, Michael Anstis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Firstly, sorry for the long stack traces in here but I included the lot
 incase what I discount somebody else picks up on.

 Anyway, when trying to use JSF 1.2-b20-FCS on Tomcat 6.0 with Java 2
 Security Manager enabled I receive the below.

 This can be replicated by creating a new WAR and simply adding jsf-api.jar
 and jsf-impl.jar to the WEB-INF\lib folder on a vanila install of Tomcat
 6.0.

 SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance of 
 *class* com.sun.faces.config.GlassFishConfigureListener
 java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
 (java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.jasper.el)
 at 
 java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:264)
 at 
 java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:427)
 at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:532)
 at 
 java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPackageAccess(SecurityManager.java:1512)
 at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:265)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:299)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319)
 at 
 org.apache.jasper.runtime.JspFactoryImpl.getJspApplicationContext(JspFactoryImpl.java:200)
 at 
 com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.registerELResolverAndListenerWithJsp(ConfigureListener.java:1874)
 at 
 com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.contextInitialized(ConfigureListener.java:546)
 at 
 com.sun.faces.config.GlassFishConfigureListener.contextInitialized(GlassFishConfigureListener.java:47)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart(StandardContext.java:3830)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:4337)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:791)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.access$000(ContainerBase.java:123)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$PrivilegedAddChild.run(ContainerBase.java:145)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:769)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:525)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptor(HostConfig.java:626)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:511)
 at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.check(HostConfig.java:1220)
 at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
 at 
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
 at 
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
 at 
 org.apache.tomcat.util.modeler.BaseModelMBean.invoke(BaseModelMBean.java:297)
 at 
 com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.DynamicMetaDataImpl.invoke(DynamicMetaDataImpl.java:213)
 at com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.MetaDataImpl.invoke(MetaDataImpl.java:220)
 at 
 com.sun.jmx.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:815)
 at 
 com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer.invoke(JmxMBeanServer.java:784)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.check(ManagerServlet.java:1458)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.deploy(ManagerServlet.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.doGet(ManagerServlet.java:348)
 at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:690)
 at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803)
 at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
 at 
 

Permissions for Sun JSF RI and Security Manager under Tomcat 6.0?

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Anstis
Hi,

Firstly, sorry for the long stack traces in here but I included the lot
incase what I discount somebody else picks up on.

Anyway, when trying to use JSF 1.2-b20-FCS on Tomcat 6.0 with Java 2
Security Manager enabled I receive the below.

This can be replicated by creating a new WAR and simply adding jsf-api.jar
and jsf-impl.jar to the WEB-INF\lib folder on a vanila install of Tomcat
6.0.

SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener
instance of *class* com.sun.faces.config.GlassFishConfigureListener
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission
accessClassInPackage.org.apache.jasper.el)
at 
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:264)
at 
java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java:427)
at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java:532)
at 
java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPackageAccess(SecurityManager.java:1512)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:265)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:299)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319)
at 
org.apache.jasper.runtime.JspFactoryImpl.getJspApplicationContext(JspFactoryImpl.java:200)
at 
com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.registerELResolverAndListenerWithJsp(ConfigureListener.java:1874)
at 
com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.contextInitialized(ConfigureListener.java:546)
at 
com.sun.faces.config.GlassFishConfigureListener.contextInitialized(GlassFishConfigureListener.java:47)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart(StandardContext.java:3830)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:4337)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:791)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.access$000(ContainerBase.java:123)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$PrivilegedAddChild.run(ContainerBase.java:145)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:769)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:525)
at 
org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptor(HostConfig.java:626)
at 
org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:511)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.check(HostConfig.java:1220)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
at 
org.apache.tomcat.util.modeler.BaseModelMBean.invoke(BaseModelMBean.java:297)
at 
com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.DynamicMetaDataImpl.invoke(DynamicMetaDataImpl.java:213)
at com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.MetaDataImpl.invoke(MetaDataImpl.java:220)
at 
com.sun.jmx.interceptor.DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(DefaultMBeanServerInterceptor.java:815)
at 
com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer.invoke(JmxMBeanServer.java:784)
at 
org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.check(ManagerServlet.java:1458)
at 
org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.deploy(ManagerServlet.java:820)
at 
org.apache.catalina.manager.ManagerServlet.doGet(ManagerServlet.java:348)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:690)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
at 
org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil$1.run(SecurityUtil.java:244)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at javax.security.auth.Subject.doAsPrivileged(Subject.java:517)
at 
org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.execute(SecurityUtil.java:276)
at 
org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege(SecurityUtil.java:162)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:283)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.access$000(ApplicationFilterChain.java:56)
at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain$1.run(ApplicationFilterChain.java:189)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at 

Permissions of File Created by Tomcat

2008-04-20 Thread Daniel J Hulme

Hi,

I'm running a WebService using Tomcat 5.5 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Axis2.

Files (and directories) are created by this service on a local directory:

/myfiles/

The permission of the new directories and files in this directory are:

Directories:'drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup  4096'
Files:  '-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 10041'

The problem is, is I want to access (write) these files using, say, a java
application, it give me:

 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /myfiles/aDir/aFile.txt (Permission denied)

How can I either:

1.Gain write access to these files (without having to constantly change the
permissions in the command prompt, and without running my java application
with 'root' access).

2.Create the files/dirs from tomcat with 'write access'

3.Other

Thanking you in advance.

Daniel
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Re: Permissions of File Created by Tomcat

2008-04-20 Thread Alan Chaney

This is really a linux permissions issue.

How are you starting tomcat? with the $TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh or 
with jsvc or are you using an ubuntu startup script?


You don't say anything about the user who will run the java application.

Generally, the way to control the access permissions with which files 
are created in linux is to call 'umask' with the correct parameters. As 
mentioned before on this list umask is a shell command, so you must do 
it at the correct point or severely weaken the overall security of your 
installation.


You need to do the following:

1. decide which user or users will be executing tomcat and the java 
application.
2. If you decide that you need to have two separate users, then make 
them both in the same group.
3. Use umask in the tomcat startup script and/or the shell in which you 
run your application to set appropriate access permissions - GIYF


As an aside, if you are going to have two different processes writing 
these shared files you may also have to consider locking issues - maybe 
you have already done this.


Regards

Alan Chaney






Daniel J Hulme wrote:

Hi,

I'm running a WebService using Tomcat 5.5 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Axis2.

Files (and directories) are created by this service on a local directory:

/myfiles/

The permission of the new directories and files in this directory are:

Directories:'drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup  4096'
Files:  '-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 10041'

The problem is, is I want to access (write) these files using, say, a java
application, it give me:

 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /myfiles/aDir/aFile.txt (Permission denied)

How can I either:

1.Gain write access to these files (without having to constantly change the
permissions in the command prompt, and without running my java application
with 'root' access).

2.Create the files/dirs from tomcat with 'write access'

3.Other

Thanking you in advance.

Daniel
  



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Re: Permissions of File Created by Tomcat

2008-04-20 Thread Daniel J Hulme

Alan, this is very useful, thank you.

After a bit of Googling I decided to upgrade to Tomcat6 (apparently is has
less security ussies with Ubuntu). This means that the files/dirs are now
created (from the tomcat app) by 'root:root' (with the same permissions
described in my first post).

However, I still have the same problem. I'm running a java progam (not as
'root'), and need write access to these files. And I'm not allowed to run my
java app as 'root'.

I'm pretty new to linux, so your help (i.e. command examples) is much
appreciated.

Daniel



Alan Chaney wrote:
 
 This is really a linux permissions issue.
 
 How are you starting tomcat? with the $TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh or 
 with jsvc or are you using an ubuntu startup script?
 
 You don't say anything about the user who will run the java application.
 
 Generally, the way to control the access permissions with which files 
 are created in linux is to call 'umask' with the correct parameters. As 
 mentioned before on this list umask is a shell command, so you must do 
 it at the correct point or severely weaken the overall security of your 
 installation.
 
 You need to do the following:
 
 1. decide which user or users will be executing tomcat and the java 
 application.
 2. If you decide that you need to have two separate users, then make 
 them both in the same group.
 3. Use umask in the tomcat startup script and/or the shell in which you 
 run your application to set appropriate access permissions - GIYF
 
 As an aside, if you are going to have two different processes writing 
 these shared files you may also have to consider locking issues - maybe 
 you have already done this.
 
 Regards
 
 Alan Chaney
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Daniel J Hulme wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm running a WebService using Tomcat 5.5 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Axis2.

 Files (and directories) are created by this service on a local directory:

 /myfiles/

 The permission of the new directories and files in this directory are:

 Directories: 'drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup  4096'
 Files:   '-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 10041'

 The problem is, is I want to access (write) these files using, say, a
 java
 application, it give me:

  java.io.FileNotFoundException: /myfiles/aDir/aFile.txt (Permission
 denied)

 How can I either:

 1.Gain write access to these files (without having to constantly change
 the
 permissions in the command prompt, and without running my java
 application
 with 'root' access).

 2.Create the files/dirs from tomcat with 'write access'

 3.Other

 Thanking you in advance.

 Daniel
   
 
 
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Re: Permissions of File Created by Tomcat

2008-04-20 Thread Alan Chaney

Hi Daniel

Really the issues are to do with the JVM and linux rather more than 
tomcat directly. I can't claim to be a linux guru but you should look at 
it in the following way Any application which runs on linux is 'owned' 
by a user. There two classifications - 'system' users and 'normal' 
users. System users have UIDs which are less than 1024 and can invoke 
privileged services. 'root' is a system (privileged) user.


One issue which often seems to confuse people is that the JVM is a 
program not an operating system. When you 'run tomcat' you are actually 
invoking java on the tomcat bootstrap.jar. See the javadocs 
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/api/index.html for more details.


My point here is that java is 'just another program' to linux, and all 
the permissions rules apply to the user invoking an application. You say 
that tomcat is now running as root (which is a BAD THING) which implies 
that you are:


a. logging in as root and starting tomcat
OR
b. letting tomcat be started by a sys init process.

One decision you must make is whether or not tomcat should be allowed to 
access privileged ports (eg port 80)
If so, then you should start tomcat using something like jsvc (see 
http://commons.apache.org/daemon/index.html)
which when properly configured will allow you to start an app as root, 
bind tomcat to port 80 and then switch to a 'tomcat' user. You can set 
umask permissions as appropriate in the startup script.


If you intend to run tomcat with its default port of 8080 (or any 
non-privileged port) things are a bit simpler. Create a user on your 
system (maybe 'mytomcat') and then simply start the tomcat 
./bin/startup.sh as this user by something like:


su mytomcat -c $JAVA_HOME/bin/startup.sh

from within the init script.

You can, of course, su to the user you are running the other java 
program as, then tomcat and your app will have the same user privileges 
- or you can create a tomcat group, make this the main group for your 
tomcat user, add it as another group to your 'application' user and set 
the appropriate umask (002) to allow group read/write (you must also set 
the directory permissions accordingly - set the 's' bit)


Please note that these are only pointers not a rigorous set of 
instructions. The reality is that if you want to do anything serious in 
linux you must learn ins and outs of 'bash' and this list is not really 
the place to do that.


HTH

Alan


Daniel J Hulme wrote:

Alan, this is very useful, thank you.

After a bit of Googling I decided to upgrade to Tomcat6 (apparently is has
less security ussies with Ubuntu). This means that the files/dirs are now
created (from the tomcat app) by 'root:root' (with the same permissions
described in my first post).

However, I still have the same problem. I'm running a java progam (not as
'root'), and need write access to these files. And I'm not allowed to run my
java app as 'root'.

I'm pretty new to linux, so your help (i.e. command examples) is much
appreciated.

Daniel



Alan Chaney wrote:
  

This is really a linux permissions issue.

How are you starting tomcat? with the $TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh or 
with jsvc or are you using an ubuntu startup script?


You don't say anything about the user who will run the java application.

Generally, the way to control the access permissions with which files 
are created in linux is to call 'umask' with the correct parameters. As 
mentioned before on this list umask is a shell command, so you must do 
it at the correct point or severely weaken the overall security of your 
installation.


You need to do the following:

1. decide which user or users will be executing tomcat and the java 
application.
2. If you decide that you need to have two separate users, then make 
them both in the same group.
3. Use umask in the tomcat startup script and/or the shell in which you 
run your application to set appropriate access permissions - GIYF


As an aside, if you are going to have two different processes writing 
these shared files you may also have to consider locking issues - maybe 
you have already done this.


Regards

Alan Chaney






Daniel J Hulme wrote:


Hi,

I'm running a WebService using Tomcat 5.5 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Axis2.

Files (and directories) are created by this service on a local directory:

/myfiles/

The permission of the new directories and files in this directory are:

Directories:'drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup  4096'
Files:  '-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 10041'

The problem is, is I want to access (write) these files using, say, a
java
application, it give me:

 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /myfiles/aDir/aFile.txt (Permission
denied)

How can I either:

1.Gain write access to these files (without having to constantly change
the
permissions in the command prompt, and without running my java
application
with 'root' access).

2.Create the files/dirs from tomcat with 'write access'

3.Other

Thanking you in advance

Re: Permissions of File Created by Tomcat

2008-04-20 Thread Daniel J Hulme

SORTED!

Thanks Alan. In the end I created a new user, and I'm running tomcat and my
java app with this new user.

Thanks again, you've been a great help.

Daniel



Alan Chaney wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel
 
 Really the issues are to do with the JVM and linux rather more than 
 tomcat directly. I can't claim to be a linux guru but you should look at 
 it in the following way Any application which runs on linux is 'owned' 
 by a user. There two classifications - 'system' users and 'normal' 
 users. System users have UIDs which are less than 1024 and can invoke 
 privileged services. 'root' is a system (privileged) user.
 
 One issue which often seems to confuse people is that the JVM is a 
 program not an operating system. When you 'run tomcat' you are actually 
 invoking java on the tomcat bootstrap.jar. See the javadocs 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/api/index.html for more details.
 
 My point here is that java is 'just another program' to linux, and all 
 the permissions rules apply to the user invoking an application. You say 
 that tomcat is now running as root (which is a BAD THING) which implies 
 that you are:
 
 a. logging in as root and starting tomcat
 OR
 b. letting tomcat be started by a sys init process.
 
 One decision you must make is whether or not tomcat should be allowed to 
 access privileged ports (eg port 80)
 If so, then you should start tomcat using something like jsvc (see 
 http://commons.apache.org/daemon/index.html)
 which when properly configured will allow you to start an app as root, 
 bind tomcat to port 80 and then switch to a 'tomcat' user. You can set 
 umask permissions as appropriate in the startup script.
 
 If you intend to run tomcat with its default port of 8080 (or any 
 non-privileged port) things are a bit simpler. Create a user on your 
 system (maybe 'mytomcat') and then simply start the tomcat 
 ./bin/startup.sh as this user by something like:
 
 su mytomcat -c $JAVA_HOME/bin/startup.sh
 
 from within the init script.
 
 You can, of course, su to the user you are running the other java 
 program as, then tomcat and your app will have the same user privileges 
 - or you can create a tomcat group, make this the main group for your 
 tomcat user, add it as another group to your 'application' user and set 
 the appropriate umask (002) to allow group read/write (you must also set 
 the directory permissions accordingly - set the 's' bit)
 
 Please note that these are only pointers not a rigorous set of 
 instructions. The reality is that if you want to do anything serious in 
 linux you must learn ins and outs of 'bash' and this list is not really 
 the place to do that.
 
 HTH
 
 Alan
 
 
 Daniel J Hulme wrote:
 Alan, this is very useful, thank you.

 After a bit of Googling I decided to upgrade to Tomcat6 (apparently is
 has
 less security ussies with Ubuntu). This means that the files/dirs are now
 created (from the tomcat app) by 'root:root' (with the same permissions
 described in my first post).

 However, I still have the same problem. I'm running a java progam (not as
 'root'), and need write access to these files. And I'm not allowed to run
 my
 java app as 'root'.

 I'm pretty new to linux, so your help (i.e. command examples) is much
 appreciated.

 Daniel



 Alan Chaney wrote:
   
 This is really a linux permissions issue.

 How are you starting tomcat? with the $TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh or 
 with jsvc or are you using an ubuntu startup script?

 You don't say anything about the user who will run the java application.

 Generally, the way to control the access permissions with which files 
 are created in linux is to call 'umask' with the correct parameters. As 
 mentioned before on this list umask is a shell command, so you must do 
 it at the correct point or severely weaken the overall security of your 
 installation.

 You need to do the following:

 1. decide which user or users will be executing tomcat and the java 
 application.
 2. If you decide that you need to have two separate users, then make 
 them both in the same group.
 3. Use umask in the tomcat startup script and/or the shell in which you 
 run your application to set appropriate access permissions - GIYF

 As an aside, if you are going to have two different processes writing 
 these shared files you may also have to consider locking issues - maybe 
 you have already done this.

 Regards

 Alan Chaney






 Daniel J Hulme wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I'm running a WebService using Tomcat 5.5 on Ubuntu 7.10 with Axis2.

 Files (and directories) are created by this service on a local
 directory:

 /myfiles/

 The permission of the new directories and files in this directory are:

 Directories:   'drwxr-xr-x 2 tomcat55 nogroup  4096'
 Files: '-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup 10041'

 The problem is, is I want to access (write) these files using, say, a
 java
 application, it give me:

  java.io.FileNotFoundException: /myfiles/aDir/aFile.txt (Permission
 denied

permissions to read/write files outside webapps directory?

2008-04-02 Thread Kimberly Begley
Hi,
I've just deployed my webapp on the remote server (tomcat5 and red hat
linux) - everything is displaying properly but when the user uploads a file
for processing it is failing - looking in the log files it appears that
tomcat can't read or write files outside the webapps directory by these
error messages:

java.io.FileNotFoundException:
/home/kimberly/test/cases/85/85-settings.txt(Permission denied)

Permissions on this directory are readable by everyone and I thought tomcat
would be able to write/read  to the tomcat5/temp directory but that doesn't
appear to be happening either.

I want it to read 1000's of files from my home directory and when uploading
files to write them to the temp file in /usr/share/tomcat5/temp/test. This
works great on my local copy but isn't working on the remote server.

So from what I gather online I need to edit the catalina.policies file to
allow read/write access to the appropriate directories. Before I go messing
around with the policies file for the first time I wanted to double check
that this is appropriate as well as check the syntax.

// Example policy file entry

grant [signedBy signer,] [codeBase code source] {
  permission  class  [name [, action list]];
};


So syntax would be something like:
grant codeBase file:${catalina.home}/temp permission
java.io.FilePermission, read,write;
grant codeBase file:/home/kimberly/test/cases
permission.java.io.FilePermission, read;

And then do I just restart tomcat?
Please any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!


Re: War File Deployment - Permissions for ftp account

2008-01-02 Thread Carsten Schmitz
Thanks for your suggests Juha.

Managed it by using ACLs. Default group rights are rw now for the
webapps folder and Tomcat is unpacking with rw for the group now.

I will check the umask from tomcat in the evening, but the ACL solution
seems to be quicker and safer, because I can set the permissions for
every virtual host if I've got the need for it and leave the default
permissions for those who don't need this feature.

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War File Deployment - Permissions for ftp account

2007-12-28 Thread Carsten Schmitz
First of all, everything is fine with the unpacking of the War file.

But I need a safe concept for a ftp user which should upload, delete and
manage the War file/Application. 

Tomcat 5.5 is running with tomcat:tomcat
Ftpuser is ftpuser:tomcat

The webapps directory has ownership ftpuser:tomcat, group permission for
tomcat is rwx.

After uploading the war per ftp, tomcat is unpacking the war file in the
webapps folder in a subdirectory. Everything is accessible and works,
fine.

If the ftpuser deletes the war file, tomcat is deleting the application
subdirectory, fine.

In some circumstances it will be important for the ftp user to do some
changes to the unpacked application (mostly change some values in xml
files or altering some jsps), leaving the rest of the application
untouched.

Tomcat is extracting the War file with tomcat:tomcat, but with group
permission read only for group. So the ftpuser belonging to group tomcat
has no chance to alter any files, bad.

So I`ve got some questions:

Is it possible to unpack a war file always with group permission
read/write?
Is there a way telling tomcat to extract war files with ownership
ftpuser:tomcat?

Everything could be done by changing permissions with chown or chmod,
but the ftpuser has no bash, and a cronjob would be the last thing I
want to do.

Thank you for your suggests

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Re: War File Deployment - Permissions for ftp account

2007-12-28 Thread Juha Laiho
Carsten Schmitz wrote:
 But I need a safe concept for a ftp user which should upload, delete and
 manage the War file/Application. 
 
 Tomcat 5.5 is running with tomcat:tomcat
 Ftpuser is ftpuser:tomcat
...
 In some circumstances it will be important for the ftp user to do some
 changes to the unpacked application (mostly change some values in xml
 files or altering some jsps), leaving the rest of the application
 untouched.
 
 Tomcat is extracting the War file with tomcat:tomcat, but with group
 permission read only for group. So the ftpuser belonging to group tomcat
 has no chance to alter any files, bad.
 
 So I`ve got some questions:
 
 Is it possible to unpack a war file always with group permission
 read/write?
 Is there a way telling tomcat to extract war files with ownership
 ftpuser:tomcat?

It might be that your tomcat is running with umask 022 (or 027); if
so, this would by default strip write access from group (which most often
is the correct thing to do), and write access or all access by others.
If it is so, you could change your tomcat startup to set the umask to
002 or 007 (permit write access to group, but prohibit write or any access
by others).

If that doesn't help, then a lot depends on your OS platform; it could be
that it supports filesystem ACLs beyond the standard unix file permissions,
which would make it possible to set default permissions on directory trees,
or even to add auxiliary group permissions, and make these inheritable to
any objects created within the tree.

But from within Tomcat, no way that I know of (short of diving into the
code to find out where the WARs are exploded, and changing the file
permissions there.
-- 
..Juha

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upgrade to 5.5.25 causes java permissions issues

2007-11-13 Thread Justin Kennedy

HI,

I upgraded from 5.5.15 to 5.5.25 and now I'm getting errors relating to 
java security (I'm using security manager). It appears as if my 
catalina.policy is not longer being recognized, because I have clearly 
outlined the permissions for the webapps, like 
java.lang.RuntimePermission setContextClassLoader etc..., but I get 
access denied errors for all my existing permissions.


Has the security configuration changed at all?

Thanks

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506-696-1564


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Re: upgrade to 5.5.25 causes java permissions issues

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Thomas
Justin Kennedy wrote:
 HI,
 
 I upgraded from 5.5.15 to 5.5.25 and now I'm getting errors relating to
 java security (I'm using security manager). It appears as if my
 catalina.policy is not longer being recognized, because I have clearly
 outlined the permissions for the webapps, like
 java.lang.RuntimePermission setContextClassLoader etc..., but I get
 access denied errors for all my existing permissions.
 
 Has the security configuration changed at all?

Not that I can recall. Neither do I see anything in the change log.

Mark




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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-26 Thread Li Ye Chen
Yes, I have added debug code to the Perl program, and where it stalls seems to 
be the following line:

$myDatabase = new Win32::ODBC($data_source);

It just keeps hanging at that line. If I go to Windows Task Manager, I see 
perl.exe running, but at a fixed memory space (no changes). Also, forcing 
perl.exe off the Task Manager unstalls the CGI program and it just prints all 
the debug comments up to the code I wrote above.

Someone suggested that I switch to another JDK but our workplace uses only Sun 
JDK for production servers...any insights to resolving this other than writing 
a whole new module in Java?

-Original Message-

 Date: Sun Oct 14 18:29:57 EDT 2007
 From: Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org

 Li Ye Chen wrote:
  Script A (the problem script) continues to run after 2 minutes (with 
  partial output some of the time). But script A ran under the command line 
  (as opposed to the browser/Tomcat) is very fast -- under a second and gives 
  full output. Script B runs under less than a second and gives full output.
 
 Sounds like you need to add some debugging to your script to figure
 out where the problem is.
 
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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-14 Thread Mark Thomas
Li Ye Chen wrote:
 Script A (the problem script) continues to run after 2 minutes (with partial 
 output some of the time). But script A ran under the command line (as opposed 
 to the browser/Tomcat) is very fast -- under a second and gives full output. 
 Script B runs under less than a second and gives full output.

Sounds like you need to add some debugging to your script to figure
out where the problem is.

Mark


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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-10 Thread Li Ye Chen
Yes, if you mean enabling the file server/lib/servlets-cgi.jar...

-Original Message-

 Date: Mon Oct 09 18:25:12 EDT 2000
 From: Martin Gainty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org

 I asked yesterday but didnt hear back..Are you implementing via CGIServlet?
 
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 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
 
 
  Okay, I did some searching on the Internet and found that according to
 current config in my Tomcat, it's not even running SecurityManager
 (the -Djava...securitymanager argument is not available in the Java tab of
 the Configuration screen. And it is still not working, so I'm not sure what
 is going on here...
 
  Any help will be appreciated!
 
  -Original Message-
 
   Date: Mon Oct 08 12:52:23 EDT 2007
   From: Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
   To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
  
   Li Ye Chen wrote:
Will it pose a security risk if I disable the Security Manager? I am
 running an enterprise firewall on the server...
  
   That depends on your environment. But you have a separate machine for
   development and/or testing - right?
  
   Right now we need to figure out if it is the security manager causing
   the problem or something else.
  
   Mark
  
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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-10 Thread Li Ye Chen
I assume it's a permission problem since:

1) I'm trying to run script A (the script with the problem), and
2) script B ran with no problems at all, but
3) script A also ran with no problems if executed from the command line 
directly instead of in the browser via Tomcat server...

both scripts A and B are in the WEB-INF/cgi folder of a webapp in the Tomcat 
server. There are no error messages. Apparently, it may also be a speed issue, 
since there was once when I ran script A and after a while, I stopped the 
transmission -- there was actually a partial output from the script.

-Original Message-

 Date: Tue Oct 09 16:54:50 EDT 2007
 From: Christopher Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org

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 Li,
 
 Li Ye Chen wrote:
  Hi, I'm trying to run a Perl script on Tomcat 5.5.8 -- I've managed
  to successfully run read-only Perl script, but the script I'm trying
  to run connects to the database and needs to write to the local hard
  drive. Whenever I try to execute the script, it creates a Perl.exe
  thread on my Windows server and just never return the HTML code (so
  the browser keeps loading) -- it seems there is a permission problem.
 
 Why do you believe there is a permissions problem? If perl.exe is
 running, then you have permission to run perl.exe. If you don't have
 permission to read the script file, then you should be getting some kind
 of error message somewhere.
 
 Can you see any error messages anywhere?
 
 How are you trying to execute this perl script? Be specific.
 
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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Thomas
Li Ye Chen wrote:
 Apparently, it may also be a speed issue, since there was once when I ran 
 script A and after a while, I stopped the transmission -- there was actually 
 a partial output from the script.

How long does script A take to run?

Mark


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Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat

2007-10-09 Thread Li Ye Chen
I'm running Tomcat on Windows XP, and in my Configuration - Startup menu, the 
entry for the Arguments text box is start, with no other string (nothing that 
says -security). Does that mean I'm currently running without SecurityManager?

-Original Message-

 Date: Mon Oct 08 12:03:37 EDT 2007
 From: Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Perl Permissions on Tomcat
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org

 Li Ye Chen wrote:
  // Give all permission to servlets-cgi.jar
  grant codeBase file:${catalina.home}/server/lib/servlets-cgi.jar {
  permission java.security.AllPermission;
  };
 
 Are you running with a security manger? If so, try running without and
 get things working that way first. Then we can focus on the permissions.
 
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