Re: manager 401 error fixed with restart

2009-03-02 Thread Thufir
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:04:40 +, Thufir wrote:

 On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:49:53 +, Thufir wrote:
 
 I'm getting:
 
 
 HTTP Status 401 -
 
 type Status report
 
 message
 
 description This request requires HTTP authentication ().
 
 http://localhost:8080/manager/html
 
 
 on tomcat6 for ubuntu 8.10 with sun java.  Neither restarting tomcat
 nor logging out gained access to the manager page, had to restart.
 
 Is there a less drastic step to take in that circumstance?


Well, restarting apache2 seems to fix that problem.  pain in the neck, 
though.


-Thufir


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Re: instance has been stopped. could not loadoracle.toplink.essentials...

2009-03-02 Thread Thufir
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:46:30 -0600, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

 From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Thufir Subject: Re:
 instance has been stopped. could not loadoracle.toplink.essentials...

 Glad you saw that.  It seems like toplink is required for JPA?
 
 Got no idea; what I said was mostly a joke, like mixing oil and water. 
 Should have used a smiley face.
 
 Do you have suggestion beyond don't use mssql because mssql is what
 my school uses
 
 Nothing wrong with MSSQL; it has its quirks, just like every other DB.
 
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LOL.  I took it as that, but also thought there might be something to it, 
too.  I swear the tutorials on JDBC settings for mssql are wrong.  
Anyhow, thanks for the help.


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Re: manager 401 error fixed with restart

2009-03-02 Thread Thufir
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:11:18 +, Thufir wrote:

 On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:04:40 +, Thufir wrote:
 
 On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:49:53 +, Thufir wrote:
 
 I'm getting:
 
 
 HTTP Status 401 -
 
 type Status report
 
 message
 
 description This request requires HTTP authentication ().
 
 http://localhost:8080/manager/html
 
 
 on tomcat6 for ubuntu 8.10 with sun java.  Neither restarting tomcat
 nor logging out gained access to the manager page, had to restart.
 
 Is there a less drastic step to take in that circumstance?
 
 
 Well, restarting apache2 seems to fix that problem.  pain in the neck,
 though.


LOL. it was just that it took time to do all that and futz around.  I 
could've just twiddled my thumbs, same diff!

I just wait for it to go from:

thu...@arrakis:~$ 
thu...@arrakis:~$ netstat -tan | grep 127
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN 
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:48816 127.0.0.1:8080  
FIN_WAIT2  
tcp6   0  0 127.0.0.1:8005  :::*
LISTEN 
tcp6 527  0 127.0.0.1:8080  127.0.0.1:48816 
CLOSE_WAIT 
tcp6   0  0 127.0.0.1:59454 127.0.0.1:8005  
TIME_WAIT  
thu...@arrakis:~$ 
thu...@arrakis:~$ 

to:

thu...@arrakis:~$ 
thu...@arrakis:~$ netstat -tan | grep 127
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN 
tcp6   0  0 127.0.0.1:8005  :::*
LISTEN 
thu...@arrakis:~$ 
thu...@arrakis:~$ 



From what I understand there's no real solution, but it's quite 
annoying.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?


-Thufir


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Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Zak Mc Kracken

Gregor Schneider wrote:


you've been asking the valve-stuff because you want to limit the
access to requests coming from localhost only?


Yep!


why then not make tomcat listen on localhost only? configuration for
that's a walk in the park...



My Tomcat is serving a number of webapps, I want to restrict access to 
one only (the others are proper end-user-dedicated applications). 
Furthermore, it's more modular if I can set up such restriction rules 
into the app's WAR, rather than at Tomcat configuration level. So, it 
should be as previously explained, or am I missing something?


Cheer.

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Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Gregor Schneider
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Zak Mc Kracken zakmc...@yahoo.it wrote:
 Gregor Schneider wrote:

 you've been asking the valve-stuff because you want to limit the
 access to requests coming from localhost only?

 Yep!

 why then not make tomcat listen on localhost only? configuration for
 that's a walk in the park...


 My Tomcat is serving a number of webapps, I want to restrict access to one
 only (the others are proper end-user-dedicated applications). Furthermore,
 it's more modular if I can set up such restriction rules into the app's WAR,
 rather than at Tomcat configuration level. So, it should be as previously
 explained, or am I missing something?


That wasn't clear to me.

Have you ever thought about fronting Tomcat with Apache HTTPD, then
connecting it via mod_jk?

Thus, Tomcat would listen on localhost only, and Apache HTTPD takes
care about forwarding appropriate requests to Tomcat on localhost.

Besides, you could use Apache's mod_authz
(http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authz_host.html) to specify
the authorized ips / hosts.

Might be a little bit more work beforehand, but that would be my
preferred solution.

Rgds

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Re: friendly urls

2009-03-02 Thread Tim Funk
* is mapped to the default servlet. And this is done system wide in 
conf/web.xml. You can turn that behavior off and require each webpp to 
map *. But then youi also need to make sure you have a way to serve 
static content like images. (Which is what the default servlet does)



A better way is to use a Filter. The filter can look at the URL  - 
determine if it is SEO friendly URL, and then perform a 
RequestDispatcher.forward() to the real servlet.



-Tim

Dan Vega wrote:

Thanks for the help Chuck. I am actually running railo under tomcat fine
right now and as you said its just a specific app thats not working because
it uses a convention for urls. From what I understand Tomcat only allows one
* per mapping and thats why these urls are not working and that resin allows
for this. Is this not correct?




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Re: friendly urls

2009-03-02 Thread Ken Bowen
In this regard,   http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/is a very useful  
tool.


-Ken

On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Tim Funk wrote:

* is mapped to the default servlet. And this is done system wide in  
conf/web.xml. You can turn that behavior off and require each webpp  
to map *. But then youi also need to make sure you have a way to  
serve static content like images. (Which is what the default servlet  
does)



A better way is to use a Filter. The filter can look at the URL  -  
determine if it is SEO friendly URL, and then perform a  
RequestDispatcher.forward() to the real servlet.



-Tim

Dan Vega wrote:
Thanks for the help Chuck. I am actually running railo under tomcat  
fine
right now and as you said its just a specific app thats not working  
because
it uses a convention for urls. From what I understand Tomcat only  
allows one
* per mapping and thats why these urls are not working and that  
resin allows

for this. Is this not correct?



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Re: friendly urls

2009-03-02 Thread Dan Vega
Thank you all for the help. I indeed found urlRewrite last night and it has
turned out to be exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again for everything
guys!

Dan


Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Zak Mc Kracken
Thanks Gregor, that's very interesting for production environments. I'll 
try it.


Cheers.

M.


Gregor Schneider wrote:

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Zak Mc Kracken zakmc...@yahoo.it wrote:

Gregor Schneider wrote:

you've been asking the valve-stuff because you want to limit the
access to requests coming from localhost only?

Yep!


why then not make tomcat listen on localhost only? configuration for
that's a walk in the park...


My Tomcat is serving a number of webapps, I want to restrict access to one
only (the others are proper end-user-dedicated applications). Furthermore,
it's more modular if I can set up such restriction rules into the app's WAR,
rather than at Tomcat configuration level. So, it should be as previously
explained, or am I missing something?



That wasn't clear to me.

Have you ever thought about fronting Tomcat with Apache HTTPD, then
connecting it via mod_jk?

Thus, Tomcat would listen on localhost only, and Apache HTTPD takes
care about forwarding appropriate requests to Tomcat on localhost.

Besides, you could use Apache's mod_authz
(http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authz_host.html) to specify
the authorized ips / hosts.

Might be a little bit more work beforehand, but that would be my
preferred solution.

Rgds

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RE: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Gregor Schneider [mailto:rc4...@googlemail.com]
 Subject: Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

 Have you ever thought about fronting Tomcat with Apache HTTPD, then
 connecting it via mod_jk?

Are you serious?  You want to add complexity and overhead just to control 
access to one webapp?  Since a working Valve setup was already provided, why 
not just use that?

 - Chuck


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What happened to the Tomact 6 Monitor?

2009-03-02 Thread Gary Marshall
All:

I have a Vista machine stoked with maximum memory. The following has
occurred each time I complete an install of Tomcat 6.0 followed by a reboot
of my computer.

I downloaded and successfully installed Tomcat6 setting the checkbox on the
component page that generaates during install that sets Tomcat to start
automatically with Windows . Each install resulted in a Tomcat icon placed
in the system tray at the lower right in Windows, which allows me to stop
and start Tomcat as needed.

Now, I reboot my machine.  When the machine gets to the Window desktop a
red X dialog box displays stating  Acess is denied.  Unable to open the
server 'Tomcat6'. I am repeating the message here letter for letter exactly
as it is shown in the dialogue box that pops up.  So I click OK

Now at the Windows desktop, the Tomcat Monitor icon is not in the system
tray.   In order to start Tomcat I have to click on Start - All Progbrams
- Apache Tomcat 6.0 - Tomcat Manager.  This brings up the logon dialog and
then I am in the Tomcat manager panel.  However I cannot stop Tomcat since I
cannot open the Monitor, since the icon that existed in the system tray
after the install and before the reboot is not there anymore.

I have had this same behavior several times.

Can anybody tell me what I am missing? Do I need to set some property or
setting someplace in order to get the Tomcat Monitor be on the system tray
and available for my use at all times?

Thanks to all for your assistance.

gary


Re: What happened to the Tomact 6 Monitor?

2009-03-02 Thread Serge Fonville
Hi,



 Now, I reboot my machine.  When the machine gets to the Window desktop a

red X dialog box displays stating  Acess is denied.  Unable to open the

server 'Tomcat6'. I am repeating the message here letter for letter exactly


as it is shown in the dialogue box that pops up.  So I click OK


Since you get a security dialog, my first guess is you are not logged on as
an administrator.
is this correct?
Also, is tomcat started? (check task manager and look in services.msc)
What are the (applicable) permissions on the directory tomcat is installed?

I have had this same behavior several times.


So not every time then?
All these times, was it on the same machine or different machines?

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Serge Fonville

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Gary Marshall gwj...@gmail.com wrote:

 All:

 I have a Vista machine stoked with maximum memory. The following has
 occurred each time I complete an install of Tomcat 6.0 followed by a reboot
 of my computer.

 I downloaded and successfully installed Tomcat6 setting the checkbox on the
 component page that generaates during install that sets Tomcat to start
 automatically with Windows . Each install resulted in a Tomcat icon placed
 in the system tray at the lower right in Windows, which allows me to stop
 and start Tomcat as needed.

 Now, I reboot my machine.  When the machine gets to the Window desktop a
 red X dialog box displays stating  Acess is denied.  Unable to open the
 server 'Tomcat6'. I am repeating the message here letter for letter
 exactly
 as it is shown in the dialogue box that pops up.  So I click OK

 Now at the Windows desktop, the Tomcat Monitor icon is not in the system
 tray.   In order to start Tomcat I have to click on Start - All Progbrams
 - Apache Tomcat 6.0 - Tomcat Manager.  This brings up the logon dialog
 and
 then I am in the Tomcat manager panel.  However I cannot stop Tomcat since
 I
 cannot open the Monitor, since the icon that existed in the system tray
 after the install and before the reboot is not there anymore.

 I have had this same behavior several times.

 Can anybody tell me what I am missing? Do I need to set some property or
 setting someplace in order to get the Tomcat Monitor be on the system tray
 and available for my use at all times?

 Thanks to all for your assistance.

 gary



Re: JkMount a different location

2009-03-02 Thread Rainer Jung

On 02.03.2009 03:21, Andres Riancho wrote:

List,

 I've search the Tomcat FAQ, but I haven't been able to find any
answers, so... here is my question... I have a JSP application
deployed in Tomcat inside the /abc/ directory; and I want to be able
to access it from *two different locations* from Apache, for example,
when I access: http://apache/abc/; and http://apache/123/abc/;. The
first JkMount is trivial:

 JkMount /abc ajp13_worker
 JkMount /abc/* ajp13_worker

 And is working as expected, but for the second... I don't have the
slightest clue on how to do it... I tried mod_rewrite, but it seems
that it isn't possible to combine JkMount's and URL rewrites in a
successful way. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

 I'm using Apache2, Tomcat6.


I'll give an answer for Apache 2.2 and yes, this is missing in the 
documentation at the moment. For IIS there is a builtin rewrite feature 
in mod_jk, but not for httpd, because httpd can already do it on its own.


Context rewriting for mod_jk and Apache httpd
=

Tested with httpd 2.2.11.

You need to handle three things:

1) Rewrite the URL /xxx/something to /yyy/something before the request 
gets send to Tomcat


2) Change any redirects you get back from Tomcat, which point to 
locations /yyy/somethingelse, into location /xxx/somethingelse


3) Change pathes of cookies, which might get set by the application from 
/yyy to /xxx.


The module mod_proxy allow sto do this via ProxyPass, ProxyPassReverse 
and ProxyPassReverseCookiePath directives. But you can't use mod_proxy 
and mod_jk for the same requests.


The first directive can be replaced by some RewriteRule, the other two 
cases will be handled by dynamically changing response headers.


So lets start with

JkMount /yyy/* myworker

and now:

ad 1) RewriteRule ^/xxx/(.*)$ /yyy/$1 [PT]

This will change any rquest /xxx/something into /yyy/something before 
passing it to mod_jk.


ad 2) Header edit Location ^([^/]*//[^/]*)?/yyy/(.*)$ $1/xxx/$2

This changes Location headers, the headers used for signalling a 
redirect to the client.


Any URL of the form protocol://server:port/yyy/something will be 
changed (yyy - xxx), as well as URLs of the form /yyy/something.


Happy regular expression studying.

ad 3) Header edit Set-Cookie ^(.*; Path=)/yyy([/;].*)?$ $1/xxx$2

This changes Set-Cookie headers, the headers used for setting a cookie.

I hope you get the idea.

In case your webapp puts self referential links into he response pages 
themselves, things get more complicated (or say: more expensive in terms 
of CPU cycles). Then you must parse the complete response pages to do 
search and replace. You can do that e.g. with mod_substitute or mod_sed 
or mod_proxy_html.


It seems it would be nice, mod_jk had short hand notations for 1)-3). 
You can file an enhancement request in bugzilla for this, if you like.


Regards,

Rainer

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Re: What happened to the Tomact 6 Monitor?

2009-03-02 Thread Gary Marshall
Hello and thank you for your prompt response.
I should have been more detailed in my explanation and environment.  The
scenario I define here happens EVERY TIME I install and then reboot my Vista
machine, within which, I believe I have admin rights.  This Vista machine is
my own personal machine.

Unfortunately as I write this, I am at the office, and not at home so I
cannot check that Tomcat is in fact running when I see that security red X
dialog box generate, and I am sure that the default permissions are set on
the directory where Tomcat is installed.  I am sure that Tomcat is not
running when this dialog appears because, as I stated, I am allowed to start
Tomcat by clicking on Start - All Programs - Apache Tomcat 6.0 - Tomcat
Manager.  Wouldn't Windows or Tomcat complain if I did this and it was
already started?

Another important point:  At any time, when I click on click on Start - All
Programs - Apache Tomcat 6.0 - Configure Tomcat I get the same Red X
dialog box stating Access is denied.  Unable to open the server 'Tomcat6'.

Hmm... Are you thinking that possibly Vista is disallowing the Tomcat
Monitor from running?

Thanks again
Gary






FYI... I



On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Serge Fonville serge.fonvi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,



  Now, I reboot my machine.  When the machine gets to the Window desktop a

 red X dialog box displays stating  Acess is denied.  Unable to open the

 server 'Tomcat6'. I am repeating the message here letter for letter
 exactly
 

 as it is shown in the dialogue box that pops up.  So I click OK


 Since you get a security dialog, my first guess is you are not logged on as
 an administrator.
 is this correct?
 Also, is tomcat started? (check task manager and look in services.msc)
 What are the (applicable) permissions on the directory tomcat is installed?

 I have had this same behavior several times.
 

 So not every time then?
 All these times, was it on the same machine or different machines?

 Hope this helps.

 Regards,

 Serge Fonville

 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Gary Marshall gwj...@gmail.com wrote:

  All:
 
  I have a Vista machine stoked with maximum memory. The following has
  occurred each time I complete an install of Tomcat 6.0 followed by a
 reboot
  of my computer.
 
  I downloaded and successfully installed Tomcat6 setting the checkbox on
 the
  component page that generaates during install that sets Tomcat to start
  automatically with Windows . Each install resulted in a Tomcat icon
 placed
  in the system tray at the lower right in Windows, which allows me to stop
  and start Tomcat as needed.
 
  Now, I reboot my machine.  When the machine gets to the Window desktop a
  red X dialog box displays stating  Acess is denied.  Unable to open
 the
  server 'Tomcat6'. I am repeating the message here letter for letter
  exactly
  as it is shown in the dialogue box that pops up.  So I click OK
 
  Now at the Windows desktop, the Tomcat Monitor icon is not in the system
  tray.   In order to start Tomcat I have to click on Start - All
 Progbrams
  - Apache Tomcat 6.0 - Tomcat Manager.  This brings up the logon dialog
  and
  then I am in the Tomcat manager panel.  However I cannot stop Tomcat
 since
  I
  cannot open the Monitor, since the icon that existed in the system tray
  after the install and before the reboot is not there anymore.
 
  I have had this same behavior several times.
 
  Can anybody tell me what I am missing? Do I need to set some property or
  setting someplace in order to get the Tomcat Monitor be on the system
 tray
  and available for my use at all times?
 
  Thanks to all for your assistance.
 
  gary
 



Jk disable worker on status

2009-03-02 Thread mturra

I have a tomcat farm behind an apache httpd cluster, each apache http server
have a jk connector connected to three tomcat. 

Each tomcat have a max active session limit (let's say 10).

I configured a load balanced worker with three worker.
I would like to disable the worker related to the tomcat server that reach
the max active session limit.

I see the fail_on_status directive in jk doc
(http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/workers.html). I can use
it to deactivate (stop) the worker on a status code, but all the previous
session on this tomcat will get an error and they will be redirected on
another worker loosing session data (sticky session is required by
application).

There is no disable_on_status directive or something that exclude a worker
only for request requiring new session?

Thanks in advance. 
Matteo
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Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Gregor Schneider
Hi Chuck,

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 Since a working Valve setup was already provided, why not just use that?

Ehem - was it? I understood that there was one open issue that Zac
needed to combine a hostname and IP-adress - which was not possible
since both RemoteAdressValve  RemoteHostValve cannot be combined -
something with IPs via DHCP - or did I get that wrong?

Beside, setting up mod_jk is all that complicated - as long as you
know your Apache.

My prefered solution still would be AAA - however, according to the OP
that was not an option due to his requirements.

If the valve does everything the OP asked for - hey, go for it!

Sorry if I confused anyone here - will stop just scanning the
threads but read them properly - word of a boyscout!

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RE: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Gregor Schneider [mailto:rc4...@googlemail.com]
 Subject: Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

 I understood that there was one open issue that Zac
 needed to combine a hostname and IP-adress

Early in the thread, someone pointed out that there's never any need to specify 
a host name, and, in fact, doing so increases overhead considerably.  All 
that's needed is the set of IP addresses that are allowed to run this webapp, 
and configure the Valve inside the Conext of interest.

 - Chuck


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Enabling Basic Authentication and SSL for the same WebApplication on Tomcat 6

2009-03-02 Thread Bharath R
Hi,

I am new to web development. We have a servlet for which both Basic
Authentication and SSL has to be enabled. We are using tomcat 6 to host our
web application. I would like to know how do we configure the same
application to enable both authentication. Say, if the users access the
application from HTTP, it should request for username and password (Basic
authentication) and if the users use https, it should authenticate using
certificate. We are able to enable only one at a time, ie. either BASIC or
SSL. How do we enable both for the same authentication?

Thanks for your help in advance.


Regards,
Bharath


Mod_jk problem

2009-03-02 Thread Partha Goswami
I compile,mod_jk in my vps everything is fine, but when i am trying to add,
following lines,  restarting my apache its not starting anymore pls help

LoadModule jk_module /etc/httpd/modules/mod_jk.so
# Where to find workers.properties
JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/workers.properties
# Where to put jk
logsJkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
# Set the jk log level
[debug/error/info]JkLogLevel info
# Select the log format
JkLogStampFormat [%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y] 
# JkOptions indicate to send SSL KEY SIZE,
JkOptions +ForwardKeySize +ForwardURICompat -ForwardDirectories
# JkRequestLogFormat set the request format
JkRequestLogFormat %w %V %T
# Send servlet for context / jsp-examples to worker named worker1
JkMount /jsp-examples worker1
# Send JSPs for context /jsp-examples/* to worker named worker1
JkMount /jsp-examples/* worker1

thanks


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Re: Mod_jk problem

2009-03-02 Thread Mladen Turk

Partha Goswami wrote:

I compile,mod_jk in my vps everything is fine, but when i am trying to add,
following lines,  restarting my apache its not starting anymore pls help





# Set the jk log level
[debug/error/info]JkLogLevel info


Is this a copy/paste issue or a real config line?


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Re: Mod_jk problem

2009-03-02 Thread Partha Goswami
Yes..

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org wrote:

 Partha Goswami wrote:

 I compile,mod_jk in my vps everything is fine, but when i am trying to
 add,
 following lines,  restarting my apache its not starting anymore pls help



  # Set the jk log level
 [debug/error/info]JkLogLevel info


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Re: Jk disable worker on status

2009-03-02 Thread Rainer Jung

On 02.03.2009 15:55, mturra wrote:

I have a tomcat farm behind an apache httpd cluster, each apache http server
have a jk connector connected to three tomcat.

Each tomcat have a max active session limit (let's say 10).

I configured a load balanced worker with three worker.
I would like to disable the worker related to the tomcat server that reach
the max active session limit.


Altgough we try to distribute new sessions equally between nodes, we 
don't actually know how many sessions each node has.


We simply count requests which do not carry any session information as 
new sessions, and we divide the new sessions counter of each node by 2 
once a minute.


We don't get any invalidation information from the backend, neither do 
we know, whether a request carrying a session id actually belongs to a 
valid session.


So we do not have any immediate way of limiting by session count.


I see the fail_on_status directive in jk doc
(http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/workers.html). I can use
it to deactivate (stop) the worker on a status code, but all the previous
session on this tomcat will get an error and they will be redirected on
another worker loosing session data (sticky session is required by
application).

There is no disable_on_status directive or something that exclude a worker
only for request requiring new session?


No, there is not. We could provide one, but it would only make sense, if 
the webapp would provide us with a special indication, that the node 
should be disabled. So you would need a filter, that checks the number 
of sessions, and if it is over the limit, the filter would return the 
indication. But since we already send the request to the node, in some 
cases, like e.g. POST requests, we cannot make sure, that we can send 
the same request to some other node.


Furthermore, disabled is a configuration state. You do not only want it 
to be set automatically, but you also need a way of revoking it later.


I think a robust implemenation would be something like:

- a new state for temporarily disabling a node, except for sticky requests

- a configurable probe request, that the watchdog thread sends, and 
which is answered by the application, the answer containing the 
information whether the node should be temporarily disabled or not


Beware, that the watchdog thread would only probe e.g. once a minute, so 
some requests might still be send to the backend, although the limit has 
been reached.


I'm not sure, what the purpose of this is. Assume our session load 
balancing works, so that all three nodes have an equal number of 
sessions, you would soon end up having all your nodes temporarily 
disabled. No?


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Re: JkMount a different location

2009-03-02 Thread Andres Riancho
Rainer,

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote:
 On 02.03.2009 03:21, Andres Riancho wrote:

 List,

     I've search the Tomcat FAQ, but I haven't been able to find any
 answers, so... here is my question... I have a JSP application
 deployed in Tomcat inside the /abc/ directory; and I want to be able
 to access it from *two different locations* from Apache, for example,
 when I access: http://apache/abc/; and http://apache/123/abc/;. The
 first JkMount is trivial:

         JkMount /abc ajp13_worker
         JkMount /abc/* ajp13_worker

     And is working as expected, but for the second... I don't have the
 slightest clue on how to do it... I tried mod_rewrite, but it seems
 that it isn't possible to combine JkMount's and URL rewrites in a
 successful way. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

     I'm using Apache2, Tomcat6.

 I'll give an answer for Apache 2.2 and yes, this is missing in the
 documentation at the moment. For IIS there is a builtin rewrite feature in
 mod_jk, but not for httpd, because httpd can already do it on its own.

 Context rewriting for mod_jk and Apache httpd
 =

 Tested with httpd 2.2.11.

 You need to handle three things:

 1) Rewrite the URL /xxx/something to /yyy/something before the request gets
 send to Tomcat

 2) Change any redirects you get back from Tomcat, which point to locations
 /yyy/somethingelse, into location /xxx/somethingelse

 3) Change pathes of cookies, which might get set by the application from
 /yyy to /xxx.

 The module mod_proxy allow sto do this via ProxyPass, ProxyPassReverse and
 ProxyPassReverseCookiePath directives. But you can't use mod_proxy and
 mod_jk for the same requests.

 The first directive can be replaced by some RewriteRule, the other two cases
 will be handled by dynamically changing response headers.

 So lets start with

 JkMount /yyy/* myworker

 and now:

 ad 1) RewriteRule ^/xxx/(.*)$ /yyy/$1 [PT]

 This will change any rquest /xxx/something into /yyy/something before
 passing it to mod_jk.

 ad 2) Header edit Location ^([^/]*//[^/]*)?/yyy/(.*)$ $1/xxx/$2

 This changes Location headers, the headers used for signalling a redirect to
 the client.

 Any URL of the form protocol://server:port/yyy/something will be changed
 (yyy - xxx), as well as URLs of the form /yyy/something.

 Happy regular expression studying.

 ad 3) Header edit Set-Cookie ^(.*; Path=)/yyy([/;].*)?$ $1/xxx$2

 This changes Set-Cookie headers, the headers used for setting a cookie.

 I hope you get the idea.

I got the idea, and I was able to successfully implement it. I was
going in the right direction with the RewriteRule stuff, I actually
wrote something like:

RewriteRule ^/xxx/(.*)$ /yyy/$1

Myself, but the *most important* thing, that allows you to rewrite and
use mod_jk is the [PT] flags for the rule!

RewriteRule ^/xxx/(.*)$ /yyy/$1 [PT]


 In case your webapp puts self referential links into he response pages
 themselves, things get more complicated (or say: more expensive in terms of
 CPU cycles). Then you must parse the complete response pages to do search
 and replace. You can do that e.g. with mod_substitute or mod_sed or
 mod_proxy_html.

 It seems it would be nice, mod_jk had short hand notations for 1)-3). You
 can file an enhancement request in bugzilla for this, if you like.

Yes, I truly think that mod_jk needs to address this on its own.

Thank you very much for your help,

Cheers,

 Regards,

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Re: Mod_jk problem

2009-03-02 Thread Rainer Jung

On 02.03.2009 16:57, Partha Goswami wrote:

Yes..


This is not an answer for an or question :(

There is a second item, that seems to be broken:

# Where to put jk
logsJkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log

In case Apache doesn't start with mod_jk, you should find an error 
either in your Apache httpd error log, or in your configured mod_jk log 
(JkLogFile, or if default in SERVERROOT/logs/mod_jk.log).


Regards,

Rainer


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Partha Goswami wrote:


I compile,mod_jk in my vps everything is fine, but when i am trying to
add,
following lines,  restarting my apache its not starting anymore pls help



  # Set the jk log level

[debug/error/info]JkLogLevel info


Is this a copy/paste issue or a real config line?


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RE: Servlet API loggin in tomcat 5.5 vs. tomcat 6

2009-03-02 Thread Guillaume Cauchon
Anyone else having similar issues with logging?



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I'm actually working on a distributed and one of the component is a
webapp. The development for the webapp started on tomcat 5.5, but for
technical reason we decided to upgrade to tomcat 6 recently...

 

However we realized the logging configuration doesn't seams to be
working the same way! The same webapp running on 5.5 and 6 doesn't
produce the same amount of logging: everything that was produced by the
JspServlet (Servlet API) is missing now; and I guess a lot more is also
missing, but we didn't saw it yet...

 

The logging is based on log4j, using a xml configuration file. We are
using DOMConfigurator to intitialise and monitor the log4j configuration
which can be modified at runtime.

 

I know the Common Logging if the basis of the whole logging architecture
in tomcat, is there something I need to know about the tomcat 6 release
that might be related to this issue?

 



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Re: Request not forwarded to login page with security-constraint after session time-out

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Marcel,

On 2/27/2009 5:17 PM, Marcel Stör wrote:
 
 On 27.02.2009, at 17:38, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 
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 On 2/26/2009 5:39 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] Subject: Re: Request
 not forwarded to login page with security-constraint after session
 time-out

 The spec is clearer than that. The * role == all roles defined in
 web.xml.

 Yes, but what it's not clear about is what happens when there are
 *no* roles defined in web.xml, which is the situation the OP has.

 It's worse than that: he has no roles table defined, so he gets
 SQLExceptions during authorization.
 
 
 [OT]
 Yes, indeed.
 I had expected that Tomcat would handle this more gracefully. I find it
 odd that JDBCRealm does try to run a query against the role table
 without checking first if one has even been defined. This is
 particularly annoying because the Realm tag in context.xml cannot be
 validated against a DTD or schema - from a configuration point of view
 I'm not required to define it.

Patches are always welcome :)

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Re: Servlet API loggin in tomcat 5.5 vs. tomcat 6

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Guillaume,

On 2/27/2009 3:23 PM, Guillaume Cauchon wrote:
 However we realized the logging configuration doesn't seams to be
 working the same way! The same webapp running on 5.5 and 6 doesn't
 produce the same amount of logging: everything that was produced by the
 JspServlet (Servlet API) is missing now; and I guess a lot more is also
 missing, but we didn't saw it yet...
 
 The logging is based on log4j, using a xml configuration file. We are
 using DOMConfigurator to intitialise and monitor the log4j configuration
 which can be modified at runtime.

So, are you talking about application logging or Tomcat internal
logging? You mentioned the JspServlet, but any logging performed by that
servlet (that is, the actual log messages) is not part of the servlet API.

If you use ServletContext.log(...) you aren't guaranteed (in fact, you
are very unlikely) to use your application's logging mechanism.

 I know the Common Logging if the basis of the whole logging architecture
 in tomcat, is there something I need to know about the tomcat 6 release
 that might be related to this issue?

I'm not sure if there is an appreciable difference between logging
configuration in Tomcat 5.5 and 6.0. Can you tell us what you expected
and what actually happens? No log files created? No log messages
generated? Log level is different than expected? You didn't give any
real details except for we upgraded and now it doesn't work. :(

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Re: Mod_jk problem

2009-03-02 Thread Partha Goswami
can not found anythig in logs.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote:

 On 02.03.2009 16:57, Partha Goswami wrote:

 Yes..


 This is not an answer for an or question :(

 There is a second item, that seems to be broken:

 # Where to put jk
 logsJkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log

 In case Apache doesn't start with mod_jk, you should find an error either
 in your Apache httpd error log, or in your configured mod_jk log (JkLogFile,
 or if default in SERVERROOT/logs/mod_jk.log).

 Regards,

 Rainer


  On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Mladen Turkmt...@apache.org  wrote:

  Partha Goswami wrote:

  I compile,mod_jk in my vps everything is fine, but when i am trying to
 add,
 following lines,  restarting my apache its not starting anymore pls
 help


   # Set the jk log level

 [debug/error/info]JkLogLevel info

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Re: Tomcat 6 catalina.sh does not remove tomcat.pid

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Marilyn,

On 2/27/2009 4:58 PM, Marilyn Daum wrote:
 We just upgraded from Tomcat 5.5.23 to Tomcat 6.0.18.  After the
upgrade, our
 shutdown script hangs, waiting for removal of the pid file.  I
compared the
 catalina.sh scripts, and noticed that the Tomcat 6 version does
contain the
 rm -f $CATALINA_BASE/tomcat.pid command.  A quick search of the release
 notes turned up nothing on pid changes.  Any comments on why this was
 removed?  For the time being, I'll explicitly add this rm command to our
 catalina.sh script.  Other suggestions are welcom.

It's good that catalina.sh does not remove tomcat.pid, since it never
creates it in the first place. As Chuck points out, you are probably
running a Tomcat packaged by a 3rd-party (like Debian, RedHat, etc.). If
that's the case, you need to consult their documentation and/or mailing
lists. This list, in general, supports only the standard Tomcat
distribution.

If you've modified your own catalina.sh, then you can probably figure
out how to add rm tomcat.pid to your own script.

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Re: Slightly OT: ApacheCon - Mark Thomas

2009-03-02 Thread Pieter Temmerman
Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply.
It's not 100% sure yet, but it seems my company is willing to pay to
attend your training. I'm crossing my fingers! :-)

Just one last question.
The Tomcat pre-conference training, is it spread over 2 days, or are the
2 sessions identical?

Thanks

On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 20:12 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
 Pieter Temmerman wrote:
  Hi list,
  
  Actually this question is more a question for Mark Thomas than for the
  list, but please feel free to respond with your input.
  
  I'm trying to convince my bosses to let me attend to the upcoming
  ApacheCon. I'm mainly interested in the Tomcat topics as this is what I
  touch regularly in my work environment.
  
  All topics, beginning the pre-conference training courses till Fridays
  Becoming a Tomcat super user seem very interesting.
  The only problem is that I will have to pick, since I'm quite sure my
  bosses won't like to pay 2000+ euros and me being a week out.
  
  So I was wondering, does the pre-conference topic Everything Tomcat -
  Administering, Tuning, Troubleshooting  Developing cover more or less
  the different Tomcat topics handled during the actual conference?
 
 There is quite a lot of overlap but some topics will be covered in more
 detail in the conference (Filip and Servlet 3.0 for example)
 
 In terms of maximum content for minimum time the 2 day tutorial is
 probably best.
 
 If at all possible I would try and attend at least some of the
 conference as well. It isn't just the other presentations but the
 opportunity to talk to the presenters and other attendees.
 
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Re: Jk disable worker on status

2009-03-02 Thread mturra



Rainer Jung-3 wrote:
 
 We don't get any invalidation information from the backend, neither do 
 we know, whether a request carrying a session id actually belongs to a 
 valid session.
 
 So we do not have any immediate way of limiting by session count.
 
 There is no disable_on_status directive or something that exclude a
 worker
 only for request requiring new session?
 
 No, there is not. We could provide one, but it would only make sense, if 
 the webapp would provide us with a special indication, that the node 
 should be disabled. 
 
 Furthermore, disabled is a configuration state. You do not only want it 
 to be set automatically, but you also need a way of revoking it later.
 

I mean the web application use a Standard Session Manager property
(http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/api/org/apache/catalina/session/StandardManager.html#maxActiveSessions)
to limit the session number.

When the limit is reached I catch the exception and return a http status
code 503 (Service Unavailable).
Like the fail_on_status the connector could try after the recovery period
to pass a new session request (without session information in the request)
to the disabled worker and test the status code returned.
If the status is not like previous the worker can pass to active state,
otherwise the worker remain disabled.

Matteo

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Re: RemoteAddrValve and RemoteHostValve

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Zak,

On 2/27/2009 9:28 PM, Zak Mc Kracken wrote:
 I'd like to filter incoming requests with this criterion:
 
 if it's www.somewhere.com - OK
 else if it's 1.2.3.4 - OK
 else - KO

You could always use our favorite urlrewrite tool:
http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/

This can manage many criteria, chained or not.

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Re: serializing session in DB

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Amit,

On 2/28/2009 9:02 PM, Amit Chandel wrote:
 I am trying to deploy a tomcat cluster. I was able to set up a test
 tomcat cluster using in-memory replication with version 6.0.10, but my
 session data is too much (almost 5 GB per tomcat instance, and using 2
 nodes in cluster both instances will require 10GB of RAM to hold
 session data).

Wow, does this thing scale? 5 GB of session data is a /lot/. Have you
considered using either db-backed sessions (that is, writing everything
to the database instead of keeping it in memory) or having your
application itself store things in the db instead of the session?

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Re: Jk disable worker on status

2009-03-02 Thread mturra


Rainer Jung-3 wrote:
 
 Furthermore, disabled is a configuration state. You do not only want it 
 to be set automatically, but you also need a way of revoking it later.
 
 I think a robust implemenation would be something like:
 
 - a new state for temporarily disabling a node, except for sticky requests
 
 - a configurable probe request, that the watchdog thread sends, and 
 which is answered by the application, the answer containing the 
 information whether the node should be temporarily disabled or not
 

I agree a new state could be better. I used disabled because of its
behavior: let the previous run and block the new coming.
The probe is done retrying after a quiet period.

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Re: Slightly OT: ApacheCon - Mark Thomas

2009-03-02 Thread Mark Thomas
Pieter Temmerman wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 It's not 100% sure yet, but it seems my company is willing to pay to
 attend your training. I'm crossing my fingers! :-)
 
 Just one last question.
 The Tomcat pre-conference training, is it spread over 2 days, or are the
 2 sessions identical?

It is two days. The sessions are not identical.

Hope to see you there.

Mark

 
 Thanks
 
 On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 20:12 +, Mark Thomas wrote:
 Pieter Temmerman wrote:
 Hi list,

 Actually this question is more a question for Mark Thomas than for the
 list, but please feel free to respond with your input.

 I'm trying to convince my bosses to let me attend to the upcoming
 ApacheCon. I'm mainly interested in the Tomcat topics as this is what I
 touch regularly in my work environment.

 All topics, beginning the pre-conference training courses till Fridays
 Becoming a Tomcat super user seem very interesting.
 The only problem is that I will have to pick, since I'm quite sure my
 bosses won't like to pay 2000+ euros and me being a week out.

 So I was wondering, does the pre-conference topic Everything Tomcat -
 Administering, Tuning, Troubleshooting  Developing cover more or less
 the different Tomcat topics handled during the actual conference?
 There is quite a lot of overlap but some topics will be covered in more
 detail in the conference (Filip and Servlet 3.0 for example)

 In terms of maximum content for minimum time the 2 day tutorial is
 probably best.

 If at all possible I would try and attend at least some of the
 conference as well. It isn't just the other presentations but the
 opportunity to talk to the presenters and other attendees.

 HTH,

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RE: What happened to the Tomact 6 Monitor?

2009-03-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Gary Marshall [mailto:gwj...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: What happened to the Tomact 6 Monitor?

 The scenario I define here happens EVERY TIME I install
 and then reboot my Vista machine, within which, I believe
 I have admin rights.

You probably don't.  Unlike previous versions of Windows, Vista does not grant 
administrative privileges to an account just because it's a member of the 
Administrators group.  Whatever program you want to execute as an administrator 
has to be started with the Run as Administrator option.

To enable the Tomcat monitor, find the tomcat6w.exe program (not tomcat6.exe) 
in Tomcat's bin directory with Explorer, right-click on the program entry, 
select the Compatibility tab, and then check the Run this program as an 
administrator box.  This will allow the Tomcat monitor icon to be placed in 
the system tray and start the service.  However, you will still get an annoying 
UAC dialog box at boot time asking you to ok what you did; I don't know how to 
get rid of that without turning off UAC completely.

 - Chuck


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Re: Re: session.isNew() not thread safe?

2009-03-02 Thread Karl San Gabriel

Hi Jakob,

Session object is not thread-safe. It's better put the session object in 
a synchronized block.


Regards,
Karl San Gabriel

Tim Funk wrote:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedSort of 
(if I read the code correctly)


isNew is set to false after the response is finished. So if you have 2 
concurrent requests running, isNew is true until the first request 
finishes sending its response back to the client. Of course isNew 
could be set to false if the second request finishes its response 
faster than the first request. In which case, the first request could 
have isNew set=true only later have it be set to be false.


-Tim


Jakob Ericsson wrote:
  Our feeling is that this is a race condition between threads before

tomcat set isNew to false.
A quick workaround is to use request.getSession(false) and null
checks. This seems to get us around our specific application problem.

Could this be a problem in Tomcat?


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RE: Re: session.isNew() not thread safe?

2009-03-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Karl San Gabriel [mailto:karl.sangabr...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: Re: session.isNew() not thread safe?

 Session object is not thread-safe.

Please don't post false information - do your homework.  To quote from 7.7.1 of 
the servlet spec:

Multiple servlets executing request threads may have active access to the same 
session object at the same time. The container must ensure that manipulation of 
internal data structures representing the session attributes is performed in a 
thread safe manner.

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Re: Tomcat 6 catalina.sh does not remove tomcat.pid

2009-03-02 Thread Marilyn Daum

Thanks for the replies.  Someone here apparently modified the catalina.sh
script.


Christopher Schultz-2 wrote:
 
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 creates it in the first place. As Chuck points out, you are probably
 running a Tomcat packaged by a 3rd-party (like Debian, RedHat, etc.). If
 that's the case, you need to consult their documentation and/or mailing
 lists. This list, in general, supports only the standard Tomcat
 distribution.
 
 If you've modified your own catalina.sh, then you can probably figure
 out how to add rm tomcat.pid to your own script.
 
 

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Re: mod_jk not working as expected - is there a bug??

2009-03-02 Thread Mohit Anchlia
I will change the JkLogLevel and post the results. I have a question
though: Does prepost_timeout also detect if it received http code such
as 503 from app server.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote:
 On 25.02.2009 17:10, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

 you are right there is a mod-jk.conf. So given my workers.properties
 file what should I change so that mod_jk detects that app server is
 down before attempting to send the request. Shouldn't retries in
 workers.properties try to connect to some other app server instead.

 Just a wild guess: your prepost timeout of 5 milliseconds produces the error
 messages you cited. First correct this timeout, then do another clean test
 on your test system. You can even increase JkLogLevel to trace (not in
 production) so we can see exactly what is going on. Do not send many
 requests with JkLogLevel trace, just do a minimal test that shows the
 problem.

 The early detection of a broken instance should be possible with your
 configuration.

 Here is mod-jk.conf

 # Where to find workers.properties
 JkWorkersFile conf/workers.properties

 # Where to put jk logs
 JkLogFile /var/log/apache2/mod_jk.log

 # Set the jk log level [debug/error/info]
 JkLogLevel error

 # Allow mod_jk worker status reports, with the URL of
 http://servername/JkStatus
 ## This is very helpful for monitoring purposes, but should be
 ## allowed from the local machine.
 Location /JkStatus
     Order deny,allow
     Deny from all
     Allow from localhost
 /Location

 #JkMount /JkStatus status

 # Below line forward all requests to application server
 #JkMount /* local


 On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de
  wrote:

 On 25.02.2009 02:47, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

 In httpd conf I just see JkMount and no other directive. I searched for
 Jk.

 There should be others as well, for instance JkWorkersFile to point to
 your
 workers.properties. The names of the directives are case insensitive,
 they
 can also be in files included to your main httpd configuration file via
 include directives.

 Here is workers.properties file:

 ...

 # appfe1

 ...

 worker.appfe1.socket_timeout=5

 I generally don't like socket_timeout. Others do :)

 worker.appfe1.prepost_timeout=5

 5 milliseconds prepost timeout? You're kidding. I assume it should have
 been
 5000.

 worker.appfe1.recycle_timeout=900

 This is deprecated. Use connection_pool_timeout instead. The value is OK,
 you should set connectionTimeout on the Tomcat AJP connector to 90
 then.

 Since you are using prefork MPM, you might want to set
 connection_pool_minsize to 0 if you want to keep the number of
 established
 connections low.

 And the same for the other members of the load balancer.

 On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de
  wrote:

 On 25.02.2009 00:00, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

 Reposting:

 Apache Server - 2.2
 Tomcat server 6
 Jboss - 4.2

 We have Web Servers talking to Jboss App Servers over mod_jk. When we
 do our patch or upgrade of software we do it in rolling fashion so
 that there is 0 customer impact. But it looks like mod_jk load
 balancer on Web server doesn't detect it as soon as Jboss App Server
 goes down. Our goal is to have 0 customer impact. So my question is
 what can we do to overcome this problem. Web Server sees Http Error
 Code 503.

 Information from log file:

 [Mon Feb 23 13:39:42.146 2009] [31682:4143745888] [error]
 ajp_connection_tcp_get_message::jk_ajp_common.c (966): (appfe4) can't
 receive the response message from tomcat, network problems or tomcat
 (10.10.81.89:8009) is down (errno=104)
 [Mon Feb 23 13:39:42.147 2009] [31682:4143745888] [error]
 ajp_service::jk_ajp_common.c (2097): (appfe4) Connecting to tomcat
 failed. Tomcat is probably not started or is listening on the wrong
 port

 This means that mod_jk detected that your backend is down and thus puts
 it
 into an error state. All following requests will no longer be sent to
 this
 backend. Once a minute it will send a request there and try, but as
 long
 as
 it is down this test will not succeed and thus all requests will be
 sent
 to
 other nodes.

 The first request that gets sent to the backend you stopped might get
 an
 error back. If you want to prevent that from happening, use
 Cping/Cpong:

 http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/timeouts.html

 so we will detect the broken node before actually sending a request
 there.
 More details are not possible to give without your JK configuration (Jk
 directive sin httpd configuration files, workers.properties and if used
 uriworkermap.properties).

 The line number of the above message tells me you are using mod_jk
 1.2.25.
 Although there's nothing wrong in principal with 1.2.25, we always try
 to
 improve and you might consider switching to 1.2.27.

 You should also increase your JkLogLevel to info. As long as only
 occasional
 info messages are in your log file everything is fine, but once error
 

[OT] Using jsp/serlvets to track clicking

2009-03-02 Thread Jonathan Mast
[Sorry for this non-Tomcat specific question, but Sun Forums didn't help me
much with this one]

I would like to know how to imitate the click of link in JSP or serlvet, in
order to track clicks.

I have pages with links containing tel protocol URIs like this:
Click a href=tel:55here/a to listen!

I want to replace the above with something like this:
Click a href=call_tracking.jsp?pn=55here/a to listen!

And have call_tracking.jsp do its tracking stuff and then spawn a phone
call, just like the first example does. I do not want to bother the user
with another page, hence the need to accomplish the click action
programmatically. I presume this feat is achievable via Response header
magic, I just don't know the right incantation ;-)

I should add that this is not necessarily a TEL-specific question, I am
looking for a generic, protocol-independent mechanism for mimicking a
click.

Thanks


Re: [OT] Using jsp/serlvets to track clicking

2009-03-02 Thread Ken Bowen
Well, a very generic way of getting a hold of a click  in the kind  
of setting you're describing
would be to an an onclick to the link, invoking some Javascript  
doing whatever you want.
Maybe something like   a href=tel:55  
onclick=myCalltrackingCode();here/a to listen!

Almost all html entities support onclick.

--Ken

On Mar 2, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Mast wrote:

[Sorry for this non-Tomcat specific question, but Sun Forums didn't  
help me

much with this one]

I would like to know how to imitate the click of link in JSP or  
serlvet, in

order to track clicks.

I have pages with links containing tel protocol URIs like this:
Click a href=tel:55here/a to listen!

I want to replace the above with something like this:
Click a href=call_tracking.jsp?pn=55here/a to listen!

And have call_tracking.jsp do its tracking stuff and then spawn a  
phone
call, just like the first example does. I do not want to bother the  
user

with another page, hence the need to accomplish the click action
programmatically. I presume this feat is achievable via Response  
header

magic, I just don't know the right incantation ;-)

I should add that this is not necessarily a TEL-specific question, I  
am

looking for a generic, protocol-independent mechanism for mimicking a
click.

Thanks



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Re: serializing session in DB

2009-03-02 Thread Amit Chandel
Hi Chris,

Thanks for bringing up these concerns.

I did a more detailed analysis of our application. Though it keeps 5GB
of session data in RAM which are actually disk backed, the active
session data will only account for a maximum of 200MB per second. So I
am only required to persist this much data in DB every second.

Going with the in-memory session replication will require 10GB of RAM
on both the tomcat instances. When the session data gets replicated to
another node, it gets written on disk of the other node too. Its a
Wicket application, and I can't just get away with replicating the
disk based session data :-(

If I go with persisting sessions in DB, my RAM requirement drops to
only 5GB on the cost of more network traffic and 200MB of DB writes
per second. We plan to use an NDB cluster for that. But only issue is
that Tomcat doesn't persist sessions to DB synchronously as is the
case with in-memory replication where session data is first replicated
and then the request gets served. So if master fails, and the session
data has not been persisted, subsequent requests going to the other
tomcat node will see old session data from DB, and might frustrate the
*user*.  I would like to know how synchronous persistance of session
data with Tomcat is done in practice.

Thanks,
Amit

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Christopher Schultz
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 Amit,

 On 2/28/2009 9:02 PM, Amit Chandel wrote:
 I am trying to deploy a tomcat cluster. I was able to set up a test
 tomcat cluster using in-memory replication with version 6.0.10, but my
 session data is too much (almost 5 GB per tomcat instance, and using 2
 nodes in cluster both instances will require 10GB of RAM to hold
 session data).

 Wow, does this thing scale? 5 GB of session data is a /lot/. Have you
 considered using either db-backed sessions (that is, writing everything
 to the database instead of keeping it in memory) or having your
 application itself store things in the db instead of the session?

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Re: mod_jk not working as expected - is there a bug??

2009-03-02 Thread Rainer Jung

On 02.03.2009 20:28, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

I will change the JkLogLevel and post the results. I have a question
though: Does prepost_timeout also detect if it received http code such
as 503 from app server.


prepost_timeout activates Cping/Cpong before each request. mod_jk will 
send a tiny test packet to the ap server before each request, and the 
AJP protocol stack of the app server will immediately respond with a 
tiny reply packet, indicating that it is still alive and able to parse 
AJP messages. The web application itself is not involved in this part of 
the processing, neither is any http request or response (or their AJP 
equivalent).


So prepose_timeout will detect, if it receives some garbage (anything 
different from a Cpong packet), but http responses with http status 
codes are only generated much later and will thus not influence the 
prepose Cping/Cpong result.


See also:

http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/timeouts.html

Regards,

Rainer


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de  wrote:

On 25.02.2009 17:10, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

you are right there is a mod-jk.conf. So given my workers.properties
file what should I change so that mod_jk detects that app server is
down before attempting to send the request. Shouldn't retries in
workers.properties try to connect to some other app server instead.

Just a wild guess: your prepost timeout of 5 milliseconds produces the error
messages you cited. First correct this timeout, then do another clean test
on your test system. You can even increase JkLogLevel to trace (not in
production) so we can see exactly what is going on. Do not send many
requests with JkLogLevel trace, just do a minimal test that shows the
problem.

The early detection of a broken instance should be possible with your
configuration.


Here is mod-jk.conf

# Where to find workers.properties
JkWorkersFile conf/workers.properties

# Where to put jk logs
JkLogFile /var/log/apache2/mod_jk.log

# Set the jk log level [debug/error/info]
JkLogLevel error

# Allow mod_jk worker status reports, with the URL of
http://servername/JkStatus
## This is very helpful for monitoring purposes, but should be
## allowed from the local machine.
Location /JkStatus
 Order deny,allow
 Deny from all
 Allow from localhost
/Location

#JkMount /JkStatus status

# Below line forward all requests to application server
#JkMount /* local


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de
  wrote:

On 25.02.2009 02:47, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

In httpd conf I just see JkMount and no other directive. I searched for
Jk.

There should be others as well, for instance JkWorkersFile to point to
your
workers.properties. The names of the directives are case insensitive,
they
can also be in files included to your main httpd configuration file via
include directives.


Here is workers.properties file:

...

# appfe1

...

worker.appfe1.socket_timeout=5

I generally don't like socket_timeout. Others do :)


worker.appfe1.prepost_timeout=5

5 milliseconds prepost timeout? You're kidding. I assume it should have
been
5000.


worker.appfe1.recycle_timeout=900

This is deprecated. Use connection_pool_timeout instead. The value is OK,
you should set connectionTimeout on the Tomcat AJP connector to 90
then.

Since you are using prefork MPM, you might want to set
connection_pool_minsize to 0 if you want to keep the number of
established
connections low.

And the same for the other members of the load balancer.


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de
  wrote:

On 25.02.2009 00:00, Mohit Anchlia wrote:

Reposting:

Apache Server - 2.2
Tomcat server 6
Jboss - 4.2

We have Web Servers talking to Jboss App Servers over mod_jk. When we
do our patch or upgrade of software we do it in rolling fashion so
that there is 0 customer impact. But it looks like mod_jk load
balancer on Web server doesn't detect it as soon as Jboss App Server
goes down. Our goal is to have 0 customer impact. So my question is
what can we do to overcome this problem. Web Server sees Http Error
Code 503.

Information from log file:

[Mon Feb 23 13:39:42.146 2009] [31682:4143745888] [error]
ajp_connection_tcp_get_message::jk_ajp_common.c (966): (appfe4) can't
receive the response message from tomcat, network problems or tomcat
(10.10.81.89:8009) is down (errno=104)
[Mon Feb 23 13:39:42.147 2009] [31682:4143745888] [error]
ajp_service::jk_ajp_common.c (2097): (appfe4) Connecting to tomcat
failed. Tomcat is probably not started or is listening on the wrong
port

This means that mod_jk detected that your backend is down and thus puts
it
into an error state. All following requests will no longer be sent to
this
backend. Once a minute it will send a request there and try, but as
long
as
it is down this test will not succeed and thus all requests will be
sent
to
other nodes.

The first request that gets sent to the backend you stopped might get
an
error back. If 

Re: session.isNew() not thread safe?

2009-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 3/2/2009 1:54 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Karl San Gabriel [mailto:karl.sangabr...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: Re: session.isNew() not thread safe?

 Session object is not thread-safe.
 
 Please don't post false information - do your homework. To quote from
 7.7.1 of the servlet spec:
 
 Multiple servlets executing request threads may have active access
 to the same session object at the same time. The container must ensure that
 manipulation of internal data structures representing the session
 attributes is performed in a thread safe manner.

Interestingly enough, the specification doesn't say that the session
object itself is threadsafe. It just says that the internal structure of
the object has to remain sane under threaded conditions.

That sounds like a stupid distinction, but consider this:

1. setAttribute and getAttribute must certainly be threadsafe (that is,
multiple threads doing get/sets on the attribute hash won't corrupt each
other). Otherwise, webapps would fail all the time.

2. The object returned by Tomcat for a call to
HttpServletRequest.getSession() is a
org.apache.catalina.session.StandardSessionFacade.

3. StandardSession.getSession() is unsynchronized and creates instances
of StandardSessionFascade wrapping 'this' and stores them in a member.

Thus, you cannot guarantee that using the session object itself for
synchronization (like doing synchronized(session) { ... } in your code
will give you exclusive access to your session object. I'm not entirely
convinced this exclusive access is necessary, since mostly people are
doing set/get attribute calls and those will be fine.

But, if you wanted exclusive access to the session (say, to increment
the number of requests handled by the session and store that variable in
the session), I don't believe there is a way to ensure that the count is
correct. There is always a race condition because the session itself
cannot be used as a monitor.

You can't even throw an object into the session to be used as a monitor
because you'll have to check to make sure the monitor object is null,
then shove one into the session, and you can't guarantee that all
threads will see the null and then use the new object in the session
attributes.

Of course, all this is pretty much academic, since once the
StandardSessionFacade object has been created (or you stick a monitor
object in the session attributes), everything is fine after that.

But the point is that you can't just say synchronized(mySession) { ...
} and expect no surprises at all.

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