Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice about setting up site with downloadable video
I will be offering my travel mini docos in half hour program format for download Mark Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on what you mean by available for download, host your files on http://blip.tv and embed the direct links on your site pages so people can download each format, mp4, Apple TV, iPod, 3gp, whatever. If you mean available for people to PAY YOU TO DOWNLOAD, you need a different solution. :) Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying a new venture. I want to have my videos available for download on my website. So I am going to need about 5gb of hosting space. Most of my website viewers are from the USA, so I figure using a webhosting company in the US will mean cheaper bandwith and quicker downloads for US based customers. Can anyone see any problems that may arise with my new business model? For the whole thing to work, I'm going to need a heap of people buying my videos (which will be priced quite cheaply) With all this traffic and downloading from my site, is there anything I should watch out for? Is anyone doing a similar thing and if so, which hosting company are you using? Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice about setting up site with downloadable video
Thanks Joly Do you use dreamhost for your hosting? I'm based in Australia, so if I go offshore, I want it to be with someone I'm not going to have hassles with and someone with good support if I do! mark WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dreamhost have a system 'Files Forever' which might meet your needs. http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Files_Forever joly At 22:42 2008-07-29, you wrote: I will be offering my travel mini docos in half hour program format for download Mark Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on what you mean by available for download, host your files on http://blip.tv and embed the direct links on your site pages so people can download each format, mp4, Apple TV, iPod, 3gp, whatever. If you mean available for people to PAY YOU TO DOWNLOAD, you need a different solution. :) Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying a new venture. I want to have my videos available for download on my website. So I am going to need about 5gb of hosting space. Most of my website viewers are from the USA, so I figure using a webhosting company in the US will mean cheaper bandwith and quicker downloads for US based customers. Can anyone see any problems that may arise with my new business model? For the whole thing to work, I'm going to need a heap of people buying my videos (which will be priced quite cheaply) With all this traffic and downloading from my site, is there anything I should watch out for? Is anyone doing a similar thing and if so, which hosting company are you using? Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Advice about setting up site with downloadable video
Great to know Adrian. I am loading a few downloadables at overlander.tv and if the whole plan works, I know where to move when I chew up my current bandwith limits Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm in australia and use them. you get what you pay for. some downtime (very little but you always think its a big deal when it happens) and cheap. Like their attitude: carbon neutral efforts, donations to charity, free hosting for registered not for profits, happy to put my money to a company that behaves like that. On 30/07/2008, at 1:52 PM, Mark Shea wrote: Do you use dreamhost for your hosting? I'm based in Australia, so if I go offshore, I want it to be with someone I'm not going to have hassles with and someone with good support if I do! cheers Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Revolution
Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but also disturbing I would like him to show me some examples of what he thinks is excellent. If most TV is garbage wheres all the brilliant examples of creative excellence this guy is talking about? These little cameras have been around now for some years Wheres all the great examples of innovative creative genius? Have you seen it? The democratization of this technology is all good but why is it that something like this always falls into the hands of a big corporation who stage-manage access to it and ultimately owns the means of distribution - You Tube style. Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey thanks for posting this! i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save journalism this helps lol On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this out. Very insightful speech. http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Video Journalism Revolution
Youtube has been around for two years now. Is anyone making any cash (including google)? Is youtube promoting anything other than vloggers? Maybe if video sites started paying creative content producers the 'revolution' will occur. But so far advertisers haven't really jumped on board with 'unsafe' user generated content So the only people who are making money from online video are those with clever solutions like 'the secret'. Buy a heap of people's emails interested in self help, build up suspense and a deadline, then offer a dvd and a cheaper option (download) and make a million just from download sales. I think clever creators are using the likes of youtube to only promote segments of their work, saving the goodies for their own sites (eg dvd or download sales) or finding advertisers willing to pay for content before it is made, so it can be offered for free on video sites. Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking the same thing and then i went to his web site or i should say his blóg tho i still think if you are gonna give a talk like this you cant just live in the problem you have to show the solution otherwise you are just crotchety On 7/21/08, Mark Shea wrote: Thanks for this vid. Very entertaining and thought provoking but also disturbing I would like him to show me some examples of what he thinks is excellent. If most TV is garbage where's all the brilliant examples of creative excellence this guy is talking about? These little cameras have been around now for some years Where's all the great examples of innovative creative genius? Have you seen it? The democratization of this technology is all good but why is it that something like this always falls into the hands of a big corporation who stage-manage access to it and ultimately owns the means of distribution - You Tube style. Irina wrote: hey thanks for posting this! i have to go to columbia jschool in october to figure out how to save journalism this helps lol On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Renat Zarbailov wrote: Check this out. Very insightful speech. http://www.vjawards.com/video/337/Michael-Rosenblum-40-minute-vj-revolution-speech -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?
My concern with youtube is that they don't really seem to want to take it out of the bedroom. I am based in Australia, and I really can't believe the crap that is promoted. Let me give you some examples of three recently promoted videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwvLns2uEhE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpCWvo7UdU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtx-hT7zFNU So there you three promoted videos that have a go at children, old people and gays. Maybe some of the blame lays with Australian youtube community manager, Damien Estreich http://www.youtube.com/user/YourTubeNEWS, but youtube employ him, so surely have some say in what he chooses to be featured. Is youtube really just the 'revenge of the nerds' giving losers the chance to air their grievances with the world! If so, I think their is room for an online video portal that deals with anything other than vloggers ranting in their bedrooms - documentary, travel, how to, etc etc Mark Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that is really one of the greatest failures of YouTube, how to deal with all those really nasty comments. I will be honest, I can't for the life of me understand why more people don't do something about it. Some of the stuff left as comments are vile, just vilemaybe it really is just a small percentage, but it doesn't seem like it. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great point. But I'm not sure they'd continue elsewhere - it hasn't happened so far. I think the only reason the haters are so prolific on Youtube is that it's so easy to comment. There's just The Box under every video. You write your shit and press send. You'd think that that ease *should* translate into great community discussion, but it doesn't. Make people do one more thing before they press send - like add their email or URL or a subject line, or have some kind of traceable identity profile - and it becomes too much effort to slap someone and run away. That's my opinion. I have comments approval turned on by default on all my videos on YouTube. If anyone writes anything hateful, I block them AND mark them as spammers AND report them. They should all be hunted and killed. On 16-Jun-08, at 3:28 PM, Clintus wrote: In one hand I would love for it to burn to the ground. I hate that place. On the other hand though, the haters that have made a home for themselves there would need to seek a new place to spread their shit and that means into the truly great communities out there that are virtually hate free. That would be a sad day. So yeah, not sure where I stand on this. Great post though. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Very instering article on cnet today http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9968220-17.html?tag=cnetfd.mt The big points are that Google overpaid for Youtube, (who didn't know that?) But the idea that they could actually dump it, because they can't figure out a way to make money off user generated video...I think that is a real possibility. And I fear what that would mean for all of the other video hosting sites if it happens. Read below.. Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a private company owned it and you could post and view whatever you wanted up there and no one would say a word because, well, it was practically bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get anything out of a lawsuit? Those were the days, weren't they? Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not only a veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple years ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has a huge lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue. And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, has no idea what to do about it. Speaking to The New Yorker, Schmidt said that it seemed obvious that Google should be able to generate significant amounts of money from YouTube, but so far, it has no idea what to do. The goal for YouTube is to build a tremendous communityIn the case of YouTube we might be wrong, he said. We have enough leverage that we have the leverage of time. We can invest for scale and not have to make money right now, he said. Hopefully our system and judgment is good enough if something is not going to pay out, we can change it. But is changing it really the best idea? Since Google acquired YouTube, the company has tried desperately to make something, anything, from its $1.65 billion investment, but so far, it has failed miserably. Of course, it thinks that 'pre- and post-roll' advertisements may work, but
Re: [videoblogging] Re: shoulder support for handheld camera - would you buy this prototype
Thanks for the link. some of these shoulder mounts are quite expensive. I designed the 'shoulderlander' mainly because I wanted a set up similar to my old XL1, a shoulder support AND the ability to connect to a tripod. My design really only helps you steady your shots, use it as a third arm...and rest your right arm bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great start, and unique. There are a lot of folks looking for a solution. I have a few bookmarked but I don't have a lot of time this morning ... here is a good place to start looking (one shoulder mount in particular) and you may find other cool things too (I am not an employee nor do I make any money from them... http://www.filmtools.com/im20haglshsu.html Some of the stuff is a bit extreme, designed to accommodate a wide variety of cameras and configurations (long lens, matte box, additional batteries, audio, external LCD monitor, pistol grip, dual pistol grips, cables, transmitter you get the idea a monster rig). I'll check back and add if I see anything missed by others offering suggestions --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Shoulderlander: Solid, dependable, strong. For those who don't want to muck around with wobblyshot. Made from lightweight aluminium and anatomically correct cushion foam, the Shoulderlander gives you the support you need when the going gets tough - an extra long wedding service, a long winded speech. And as illustrated, can still be connected to your favourite tripod, once the dust has settled http://www.overlander.tv/2007/the-shoulderlander-shoulder-support-for-a-canon-xh-a1/ The Travelander (in development) The Travelander is a lightweight version of the Shoulderlander, for those who crave the open road. Just chuck it in your backpack, and hit the road, jack! You CAN have it all, a free and easy lifestyle AND steady shots! I developed these for my own use...do you think people would buy such a simple effective shoulder support if I started mass producing them?? - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
From my research, you can expect $1000-$400 per video for an online deal related to just one region (country ie not listing your videos on competitors sites.) Mark Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the only company, in my neck of the woods that would have been in a similar position, would be lonely planet (who recently sold to BBC worldwide) who I know have struck up similar deals with particular websites. You could have a point about the three months thing. It allows me to pull out if a competitor makes a better offer. Did anyone see the Kevin Sites 'round the world's trouble spots' vlog yahoo funded? Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 cents: - have a lawyer review it before you sign - a year is a very long time in my book; i would start at 3 months at a time (it protects both parties) especially considering the exclusivity of this deal - brand building is nice but it's not food - straight talk can really tease out ulterior motives - you probably get to start because they are used to having traditional media attorneys draft these things. have fun! rox On 10/4/07, Jen Simmons wrote: Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure to factor that in EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend years dreaming up such crazy liabilities) jen Jen Simmons http://milkweedmediadesign.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com Yahoo! Groups Links - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
thanks kfir for your reply Hypothetically speaking, they are keen to see me happy, to continue providing them content. It really is a matter of having some idea of how much money they envisage making over the year nesting ads with my content. But you are right, they are the biggest TV station in the country, the publicity for my brand will be huge! Kfir Pravda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would do the following: Charge for less than what it will cost them to produce it on their own, and push for a lot of ads and awareness for your brand. This way I is not worth for them to produce it on their own and you promote your brand. You might be able to get some of their ads money, but you risk losing the deal. *sent from handheld Kfir Pravda -Original Message- From: caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: 04-Oct-07 8:34 Subject: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info Hi I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer. Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that your concept is extremely popular. Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites) Lets say they ask you to name your price. If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY? Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make from your content over a year, and charge more...or less? Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial to your brand Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do commercial work? I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :) - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What is online video worth - contract info
Thanks for your indepth answer Bill, you are dead right, time is money. I am constantly being contacted by websites and broadcasters (in the US) wanting to use my stories. At first I was keen to get them out there, now it's like 'show me the money'! I don't need anymore publicity that doesn't pay the bills! Youtube is the king of online vid, I'm a partner, and (although ad revenue sharing will take time to kick in) you really cannot beat the instant comments and ratings the youtube community provide. It is a real litmus test in regard to which stories actually work. If I do a job for a national broadcaster, they pay me. to own copyright of the finished product. But I think online video is changing this, we can own our vids and show them across several platforms, whether it be online at youtube, revver and metacafe, or on a cable station. I think this is great, because like a songwriter, we can earn revenue from our vids, for their entire life, and not just be paid a lump sum to kiss our babies goodbye. So if one broadcaster no longer pays all the funds to have something made (which they then own) do we accept that revenue will come from several sources, or from several regions? Time is money, but in the end, the market decides what something is worth, I have no idea how much money a particular tv station's website expects to make from individual videos. In the end it will come down to a good ol' barter. I will keep you up to date with how it goes. It's great though, this is how I envisaged online video changing the rules. Where a one man production company, with a good concept, can provide content to the largest tv station in his hypothetical part of the world. Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a hypothetical question the wise heads here may be able to answer. Lets say you travel around your country, producing short videos at different locations. Lets say, market research (youtube) show that your concept is extremely popular. Lets say a local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites) If a TV station or *anybody* wants exclusive rights to your videos, you've become a producer for them for the time being. Your consideration of payment should include the value to them of not having to hire a producer (or production TEAM, depending on how intricate your work is) as well as how much YOU will benefit from being associated with the group making you the offer. Then again, that has to do with videos you're GOING to create, and the time it's going to take you to create them. Time is Money. Period. When you're doing something for somebody, you're not doing something for yourself (work or pleasure), and you're not doing something for someone that would pay you what your rate is for whatever you're skilled in doing. Working for someone for less than your normal rate is either a gesture of wanting to do business with them even though you know they can't afford you, a gesture of friendship, or in the worst case, a gesture of charity. Lets say they ask you to name your price. If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY? Well, something like that varies depending on the market you're in. In the USA, New York is the #1 television market. It's going to cost you way more to get something made here than, say, in Arkansas. So depending on where you're standing, regardless of how much your time is worth to you, that particular market won't sustain your rate. Then again, the work is probably easier and less quality-based anyway, if that's worth anything to the producer. Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make from your content over a year, and charge more...or less? I like what Kfir had to say in this situation. If there's a benefit to you of being in an exclusive relationship with this station, such as the station publicizing your work AND YOU utilizing their promo department for an entire year, factor that in and charge them less since you don't have to advertise yourself. It's like the difference between being staff and freelance. You charge more as a freelancer because you have to cover your own benefits, and you're normally brought in during crunch-time or to fix someone else's mistakes. When there's a story about fly-fishing, they can get the staffers to do it... plus, they don't
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What is online video worth - contract info
thanks border collie, spoke with a local entertainment lawyer, they don't know, closest case they have dealt with is organising contracts for online video produced by big companies (eg telecommunication companies) In this case, the rate was commercial rates. I cant see there ad revenue for the vids being huge due to current cpm rates. But I really think 2008 we will start to see that change. Start of the 2007, if you told a website they must pay to list your content, they would laugh at you, it is interesting that now websites are willing to pay. I have already been paid to list my vids on an American site associated with a travel show (the amount really only covered my time associated with uploading, but across 20+ vids, made it worthwhile) But when a website wants exclusive rights for your country, then it is cutting out further deals with the competition, exclusivity should = $$. I have to make the decision today, I wont be revealing specifics, but will give you some idea whether this deal ends up to be a good offer...or piss and wind!! bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just as I finished writing my reply, I checked todays posts. You got a lot of great input. So here is the bare bones of what I was originally going to write. I have a hypothetical question local tv station contact you and want exclusive rights to your videos, in your country, for one year, to list on there online site. This means you can't list your videos on local sites that they see as competition (other tv station sites, newspaper sites) Lets say they ask you to name your price. If you have produced these videos with your own funds, and know that to do them commercially would cost anything from $1500-$3000 per video WHAT DO YOU CHARGE THE TV STATION TO LIST YOUR VIDEOS EXCLUSIVELY ON THEIR SITE IN YOUR COUNTRY? local or country? 10,000 people or 1.5 million potential viewers? They host the videos, you just hand them your prior work completed, no re-edits, tweaks, nothing ... A prominent logo/link credits you? Exclusive right to do anything and everything with your videos? Bare minimum - One big package deal = 10% (or less) of what you determine cost plus a profit (15% +/- additional) equals. You get some say in how, where, who, what, is done with your work. Do you charge all of what it would cost to make them commercially? Or do you take into consideration the advertising revenue they may make from your content over a year, and charge more...or less? Local - $300-$400 each video/year Country - $300-$XXX.XX each video/year Over X number of views you share in revenue Lot more to this. Do the math, revenue potential from another site like Blip or YouTube. It is a numbers game, need to know how many people see your stuff now. What is the ad structure ... blah blah blah Or does one take into account that, due to this tv station being the biggest in your country, the publicity in itself, will be beneficial to your brand Is the video online AND a part of their broadcasts? Broadcast will get you some new views if they are directing to you. If it all stays on their site, it really does nothing for you. Where is online video at? Can we get the money that we charge to do commercial work? TV stations work with a staff. You are handicapped by people that give their videos away just to be seen. You are in the middle. Average TV station will bundle the production with the ad time buy. So a ballpark estimate of cost to produce a 30 second spot is $200.00 - $600.00. Whether they are in the field or on stage, they might shoot for 30 mins or 8 hours and still cut a 30 sec spot. To match what a TV station's cost might be: Local - $1000.00 - $1800.00+ each video/year 4 or 5 min video Country - $1000.00 - $.00+ each video/year In both cases I am talking about video (product) you have already shot. If you start producing for them, it costs what it costs. Basically with shows completed, you are doing the same thing Getty images or a video library does. Selling/pricing determined by end use. In general, all things relative, Video that is produced for the web by a video production company is priced the same as video for broadcast. I really need to know...and soon...hypothetically :) Get an agent/rep or contact a local ad agency. You need to have someone on your side negotiating this. IMO what you want to establish is a way to license this to other affiliates of the network or to any other interested party. Oh, and add the cost of representation to the price you establish. Do you see what I mean? Sell your show to 9 other affiliates and you get whole (cost plus profit). Sell to 80 and you are in business. - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight?
Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
I have release forms for all interviewees and music used, but yes, things change, places close. If someone visits a place I recommend, and it is now closed, this could be an issue, but my hypothetical country isnt the USA, and (as yet) our legal system hasnt gone liability crazy, but it is interesting to see certain 'public places' restrict filming after Sept 11, and any filming done in a National Park (without permit) can incur a jail sentence or hefty fine Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure to factor that in EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend years dreaming up such crazy liabilities) jen Jen Simmons http://milkweedmediadesign.com Yahoo! Groups Links - Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] What is online video worth - contract info
I think the only company, in my neck of the woods that would have been in a similar position, would be lonely planet (who recently sold to BBC worldwide) who I know have struck up similar deals with particular websites. You could have a point about the three months thing. It allows me to pull out if a competitor makes a better offer. Did anyone see the Kevin Sites 'round the world's trouble spots' vlog yahoo funded? Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 cents: - have a lawyer review it before you sign - a year is a very long time in my book; i would start at 3 months at a time (it protects both parties) especially considering the exclusivity of this deal - brand building is nice but it's not food - straight talk can really tease out ulterior motives - you probably get to start because they are used to having traditional media attorneys draft these things. have fun! rox On 10/4/07, Jen Simmons wrote: Are they asking you to get EO (Error and Omission) insurance? What other costs might you have to deliver your content to them? Be sure to factor that in EO costs a lot of $$$. Or better, insist they cover the EO / liabilities (for things like someone suing 'cause your video about dating features a guy who was cheating on his wife and his wife left him so now he blames your video...TV lawyers spend years dreaming up such crazy liabilities) jen Jen Simmons http://milkweedmediadesign.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com Yahoo! Groups Links - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Live!
Cheers Adrian Found some local guys doing VJing down here in Tasmania - 313RGB Mark overlander.tv Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 27/8/07 Steve Watkins mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: Live! that: Ive always had a fascination with the idea of video instruments, with video being created and manipulated in the same ways as music; mixing, sampling, sequencing, and synthesizing. David Wolf (who has just submitted his Master's here at RMIT) has made 'vidgets' that he conceives of as video instruments. all of his stuff has been available online (the more recent ones are all made using Quartz Composer and then XTools to add an interface and make them cocoa apps). URL: http://dpwolf.net/blog/ but the blog is in the process of migrating, and he's busy preparing for his project examination -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] vogmae.net.au [official compliance stuff:] CRICOS provider code: 00122A - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Live!
Thanks Brook, I will both programs you mentioned Mark Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Live Cinema has a long and rich history. Currently there are many filmmakers who perform, to one extent or another, their works live, in forms ranging from performance/theater incorporating film (Miranda July probably being the most generally known) to VJs and related laptop-virtuosos to multi-projector performance using actual film. And so much interesting stuff in between. IT's kind of hard to point to resources about performance cinema generally because there are so many types, and they each have their own independent culture, dialog, community, etc. As for software programs allowing one to mix and edit live, there are oodles of them, but as the VJ market drives them they often have infuriating limitations (along with amazing possibilities) - for example, I use modul8 quite a bit, chosen primarily for image quality and speed, but in order to get a clip to play once and then stop not on a freeze frame but end on black I have to either make a special version of it with a black frame at the end or be very quick with a fader or button on a midi controller. And no timecode-accurate markers, blah blah blah... but this type of software is getting better by the minute. VDMX5 is currently in public beta and looks VERY promising: www.vidvox.net Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Live!
Thanks Steve, I've saved all the emails from this thread for future resource Mark overlander.tv Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh I remembered what I was thinking of, its not online but rather an app: http://www.neuromixer.com/product-avdrum.php# I recommend watching the demo video on that page to get an idea of just one possible technique, in this case with clips of video treated like audio samples, and then sequenced or triggered live using midi equipment, or both. The control aspect of a VJ setup is interesting. A lot of software supports midi, so we are talking about lots of interesting audio hardware, from keyboards to drum machines to sequencers,. Game controllers can be setup to send midi instead, so you could use steering wheels, joysticks, wii controllers, etc. Or just a keyboard and mouse. Brook's advice about formats is very good, depending on what you are trying to do, this stuff can take a lot of power, so optimising clips to be used live is an important part of the art. Anyways, yeah vjcentral and vjforums are good resources that could be a little daunting, by way of disclaimer I currently host those sites on my server, although I am even more useless at being an active VJ than I am about videoblogging. Same old story really, too much time talking about the tools tech, not enough actually doing it. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a few more on the programming side of things: for Windows: http://www..org/tiki-index.php Nodebox for Mac: http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home For the non-programming-minded, heres a few recent VJ apps that are free and fairly new, I havent had a chance to try them myself yet: http://www.quasecinema.org/ http://www.beatharness.com/ That last one is more like an automatic generator, like the music visualizers you've probably seen elsewhere. Argh Im currently going round in circles because I thought I saw an online video drum machine once upoon a time but I cant remember what it was called, or maybe I dreamt it. and going back to what I said earlier, from the non-live online video remixing side of things, I keep forgetting about sites like eyespot.com, which I still havent got round to trying. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhinton@ wrote: Oh and more for the programming-minded: Quartz Composer (free in the Apple Developer Tools) and Processing are two free options for building your own live video applications. vjcentral.com has good forums discussing this stuff - keep in mind its mostly from the point of view of live vj use. Brook -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Welcome to Youtube - racist comments
Hi Terry I posted this comment 3 days ago: I'm a bit disappointed with some of the racist comments people have made with regard to my video. I could remove them, but I won't, because I think many are indicative of race relations in Australia. I accept and give credence to the democratic nature of youtube, where everyone has the right to comment, but ask that people think about whether they would be willing to make their comments, in front of a group of Aboriginal AFL footballers? It is easy to be brave behind the safety of a keyboard. I think people need to stand by what they say, I notice some of these racists seem to be trollers, posting such comments in various places. I wonder if we will ever see a defamation case on youtube? We don't have the same 'freedom of speech' amendment here in Oz. Mark terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mark, Just wondering why you decided not to delete the comments? Terry Rendon http://www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been active on youtube over the last month and have had two of my videos featured in the travel and places category, My Byron Bay vid and my currently featured Canberra Story on the Aboriginal Tent Embassy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abMlHjO2nh4 I got to say I am sickened by the racist comments people have made with regard to the Tent Embassy. I was going to wipe them all, but decided against it. How have other people found the youtube 'community' Is this just something I have to accept? Mark - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] r.e. Youtube and video views...strange!!
I've tried getting an answer from youtube about this, but no reply. When I had a video featured in the travel category - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkub-mlEuts I posted this on my vlog - As an exercise in seeing why Youtube is the King of online video, just watch how many people view my video over the next couple of days. Current number of Youtube views for the Byron Video is 908. That WILL increase by 1,000's, just watch! Anyway since this video has been featured, it's number of views has only gone up by 20 (928)!! This is despite having been favourited 69 times and commented on 36 times, rated 55 times. Since it has been featured I've had roughly 6,000 views of my youtube page youtube.com/overlandertv Now if you look at the other videos featured in the travel category - http://www.youtube.com/categories_portal?c=19e=1 You will see my views are a bit of an anomaly, with most featured vids being viewed 1,000 of times. I just find it really odd!! Has anyone else experienced such anormalities? A mate told me a video he had on myspace http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=10269788 went up to approx 28,000 views, and then back down to 26,000 Mark Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey mark thanks so much for all this info on youtube that id never othrewise know :) On 7/14/07, Mark Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Above a fairly low threshold, the YouTube view counter does not refresh in real time. My view counts update two to three times a day (early morning and early evening, typically...). According to the link I'm looking at your video's been viewed 919 times. So perhaps it finally registered your views - I'm not sure where you're getting a 'ten views' count from. Unfortunately, being featured in one of the categories does not result in quite the deluge of traffic that the coveted front page slots create (well, except maybe in 'animals'). In fact, they did away with categories a few weeks ago, then brought them back after a fair ammount of user revolt. For anyone moderately interested in YouTube (or just keen on wasting office bandwidth) it might be worth noting that they now have international editions, so that if you choose the country tab in the top right hand corner of the page, you can re-set the site to reflect what's most viewed in, say, the Netherlands, or Spain. Cheers MD http://www.youtube.com/markdaycomedy http://markdaycomedy.blip.tv My new Harry Potter parody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITS_y6JNz2Y [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Circulating your videos
funny last paragraph Jay..he he Paul, I have been trying to promote my site for the last six months and have joined numerous social networking sites in order to get my work out there http://www.youtube.com/overlandertv http://www.myspace.com/overlandertv http://www.travelistic.com/user/overlandertv http://www.blogcatalog.com/user/overlander http://www.mybloglog.com/buzz/members/overlandertv/ http://travelvideos.blip.tv/ http://overlandertv.stumbleupon.com/ http://www.technorati.com/people/technorati/overlander http://community.vlogmap.org/node/1404 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661434364 http://www.couchsurfing.com/profile.html?id=1LP07FF This is what I have found. If a video is found on youtube, or featured, the number of viewers and subscribers to your youtube site will explode, nothing can beat youtube for audience size. BUT does that translate to people viewing your own site? I have found only 12 people have visited my site this month since a video of mine has been featured on youtube, this is despite my youtube channel being viewed approx 4000 times over the last week! I recently made up a banner for my site which I posted on several myspace friends comments section. This little experiment has lead to 12,000 views from myspace. Mainly coming from the pages of high profile rock bands. I try to find people who are doing similar stuff to me, tag them as friends good luck Mark Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have about twenty videos at blip.tv They are then cross-posted to blogger. Now. Looks like the game is to get videos circulated around. To various places. Where people might see them. I'd like to play this game. My question is how to do this step by step. Where to go How to go there. Are you playing this game? P.S. My blogger vaddress is paulpierognotyourpresident.blogspot.com hey Paul-- (i know you from MNN where I used to work) It's not a game. Imagine we're at a party...and you want people to get to know you? the best thing to do is go up to individual people and start talking to them. after a while people get to know you...and you gain a reputation...and people listen to you when you talk. Same thing here with blogging. first, start visiting (video)blogs, enjoy, and comment. leaving a link to your site will help people find you. But if you want an easy way make videos of young girls talking in their bedrooms. or put mentos in a coke bottle. not exactly sure what relationship youll be creating with people though. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Check out the latest project: http://politicalvideo.org 500 hours of George Bush speeches Search, download, use - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Hey everybody - not a positive email, about domain squatters
do a whois search, you will know exactly who it is have you heard the story about the original registrar of sex.com, I think he wrote a book about how he lost his domain Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like to do this, and I'm not even particularly fired up, but I think it needs to be said. Somebody bought up Twittervlog.com in May - and Twittervlog.net - and Twittervlog.org - anonymously, of course. This was a while after I started Twittervlog at Twittervlog.blogspot.com They correctly predicted that one day I'd want to move to my own domain. In fact, I thought I'd bought Twittervlog.com, but something went wrong with the transaction, and then I forgot to do it again. And then this person pounced. Happily, I much prefer to be at Twittervlog.tv - so it's worked out OK. Oh, except for when my non-tech friends and family get confused and just type in Twittervlog.com and get a Godaddy advertising holding page. I thought MAYBE it was someone who knew my site, or maybe it was just someone random who was buying up domains that began with Twitter - twitterblog, twitterpodcast, etc - but I didn't look into it. Twitter's not my trademark, after all... So anyway, I just typed in the URL of another vlog on this list - and guess what: the same Godaddy page came up. Turns out I'd got the real domain one letter wrong (it was spelt funnily on purpose), so I've gone there now. But the lookalike domain was taken by someone else. Now, I could be wrong, but it occurs to me that there might be someone reading this list who's buying up the domain names of the blogs he or she sees here. Perhaps in the hope that we'll try to buy them back. Perhaps to try and get advertising dollars from those people who enter the domain wrong. Perhaps because they're addicted to a sort of domain-buying goldrush mentality, and they have some money to burn in speculation. If that's the case, then whatever the reason, I think it's shitty behaviour - and it makes me sad. Whoever you are, if you're reading this... you're probably smiling and sneering. I don't really care. I don't expect to appeal to your better nature. But what you're doing is pretty distasteful, and you're probably a pretty unsuccessful and unhappy person. Does this really make you any more successful or happy - or does it just give a short, cheap thrill? Next time you're on Godaddy, stealing someone else's ideas and identity, stop yourself for a second- and then go and spend that money on a session of therapy. Or buy yourself a treat. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How much money to videoblog full-time?
It's great that you are in a position to have the time and resources to have your blog as a hobby. I think we are coming from different motivations. I ran a commercial video production business, and one day realised, that what I got into it for was to tell stories, other people's stories, not video sport, real estate, weddings (although weddings are fascinating to be at as an outsider) For me, I see the net as a way to get that work, which wouldnt get on a commercial network, out there, and maybe make some $$ to continue it. Documentary has always been the poor cousin of feature films, but the internet has provided opportunities for niche filmmaking eg Iraqi 4 Sale The War Profiteers doco. Robert Greenwald (director of Xanadu) asked people over the net for $20-$50 and raised $200,000. He allowed the finished film to be screened anywhere, backyards, pubs overlander.tv Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 04.07.2007 kl. 14:08 skrev caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but for me, Im getting old...and feel, if my vids are any good, there should be a market for them There comes a stage when you just get sick of being poor because of some stupid dream. . This is not the first time I've heard the argument that all old people (anyone over 30 it appears) must make money from their vlogs to keep vlogging. As if having a hobby *must* earn you an income. As they say in the US: That dog don't hunt. My (video)blog is an expense to me (time and money) and yet it's very valuable to me. In fact I believe I make a much larger profit on it because I don't have to think about it making me any money. - Andreas -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rotating banner solution?
cheers chuck, seems to work well mark Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use AdRotator: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/wordpress-plugin-adrotator- rotate-your-ads-including-adsense-dynamically/ Let me know what you think. Chuck -- Chuck Boyce President, Chuck Boyce Solutions, LLC chuckboycesolutions.com +1.201.918.6404 p +1.201.388.9147 m +1.866.209.3054 f --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have added a banner to my wordpress vlog site www.overlander.tv, and was wondering if someone knows of a solution whereby I can rotate different banners when viewers click on different pages, much like the randomized header of the K2 theme I use? Mark - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Non Commercial vlog funding experiment
not yet Devlon, pledge drive is still being worked on Devlon Duthie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are on a Wordpress blog I think you could use showinabox.tv to get that functionality? -- -Devlon http://devlonduthie.com | http://mefeedia.com | http://node-64.com/blog MSN: du.th.ied AIM: devlond -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of caminofilm Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:30 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Non Commercial vlog funding experiment If I'm to continue with my vlog, I really need to start making some money, so I can justify the time spent NOT working on other commercial projects that feed me. So I have set up a fundable pledge, whereby viewers and subscribers to my vids, can donate to allow me the time and resources to edit another month of stories. I'm sure there are many in this group interested in following this experiment Mark www.overlander.tv Yahoo! Groups Links - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How much money to videoblog full-time?
Interesting website Mark, I really like the term poverty jet set, unfortunately I am one of it's members! It's good to see Philadelphia has an idea about internet marketing. Im in Australia, and the government tourism agenices only want to steal your ideas, and the tourism operators dont always understand cutting edge like online video programs...and then you have the likes of lonely planet, that try and eat up all the small fishes, stealing ideas and paying a pittancedo I sound pissed off...he he From experience, I would say the best way to get into video blogging full time is make ONE pilot program, and then hit your advertising market, ring them (skype is cheap for national calls) visit them, tell them what you plan to do. See what interest is out there. And try and keep your idea under cover. I've had concepts stolen by bigger players, and there isnt much you can do. I did things the wrong way, started an online video site in 2001 (ozdocos.com) just went out there and did it (funding my travels myself) and only now, trying to sign up advertisers, but then again, only now, do I believe the time is ripe for online video. Unfortunately youtube has set an ugly precedent, user generated content is great, but most creators are happy to just get views, if you want to get moolah for your hard work, that is more difficult. For example, I can list my videos on lonelyplanet.tv, travelistic.com, and numerous other travel video website...but none of the bastards pay, dont even share their ad revenue. I'm interested to know WHO is making a living from video blogging? I dont think anyone is? And I'm also interested to know what google pay there partners, but every partner is tight lipped, even Nalts, who only got the deal due to the youtube community. I know here in Australia NO ONE is making a full time living video blogging, commercial work must take precedence over vlogging. I hope I get a reply to this, an honest reply, from someone making a go at vlogging mark www.overlander.tv Mark Schoneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Yeah, getting sponsorship is great. I'm grateful, even though it's not a lot of money. I know this: the next round of vids will be worth much more. Probably double. My show is sponsored by the well-funded Greater Philadelphia Tourism and Marketing Corporation (http://gophila.com) and their 'hip' what's-happening-now blog http://uwishunu.com . For them it's all about image and promoting the city as a fun place to be. We're getting money for 24 episodes. I'd say for anyone to videoblog full time, it depends on their circumstances. Me, I'm a young (relatively!) starving artist. I'm used to living on a super small budget. But I'm gettin' married to my co-creator, Audrey in the Fall. I'm sure I'll need a bigger budget then! Ultimately, I'm looking to balance out what I'm doing professionally. Video blogging is only part of that --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mark. I just watched your Episode #6 for reference. Cool, fun video. :D http://cheapdatesphilly.blogspot.com/2007/06/episode-6-historic-district.html That's cool that you have sponsorship for your videoblog... Good luck with that! :D So how much MORE would you need in order to do your show(s) and nothing else to make money... IF that's one of your goals in the first place? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Schoneveld mark@ wrote: Hey Bill, Full time jobs? Eh. Who needs 'em. Good video is becoming more and more valuable as more people watch it. Fan base, quality and regularity are still scarce in this world, but the demand is high. The way I see it, those of us who are experienced and savvy are going to make money. Good money. I started earning a couple hundred bucks a week through sponsorship of the Cheap Dates Video Podcast: http//cheapdatesphilly.blogspot.com I also do my free stuff as a hobby: http://livemusicjournal.blogspot.com Even the free stuff is getting attention from record labels, for example, who want to use it on their sites. It ain't gonna be free foreva! The prosumer class is rising, friends. Cheers, Mark* http://thepovertyjetset.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote: If you were entertaining offers to videoblog as your full-time job, how much money would that take you to make the leap? -- Bill C. http://billcammack.com - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How much money to videoblog full-time?
I did read that Bill and it still sounds like speculation to me I've asked for more than $1k a week to make three weekly three-minute episodes. We'll see how far down I have to negotiate. cold hard facts are what im after buddy Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nick Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently creating and selling a show. I've asked for more than $1k a week to make three weekly three-minute episodes. We'll see how far down I have to negotiate. I think that would cover a lot of people's expenses, $4k/month. Call that around $350/episode for a three-show week. I've also signed onto two video projects for $500 per day (including writing, production, and post). That's interesting. Video meaning television, corporate, independent, internet? I'll also assume that you're talking about a short-term involvement and not weekly? I charge more for anything commercial (an in-house promotional video) or anything that requires original writing than to cover an event. Makes sense. Time is money. The more time you have to take and the more thought you have to put into it, the more you're bringing to the table and the more you need to be compensated for your part in the production. -- Bill C. billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote: If you were entertaining offers to videoblog as your full-time job, how much money would that take you to make the leap? -- Bill C. http://billcammack.com - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Fun Paris Hilton web game I just saw.
as buzz aldrin said in a recent interview, when asked about the paris hilton prison news story. When the rest of the world (china, russia) are advancing their nuclear and space programs, America is fixated on news that isnt news grow up wanker! bikinbill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really hilarious: http://freeparisgame.com Enjoy/ - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress and blogger
Thanks for the info Jay, Im using wordpress myself, and I'm very happy with the blip.tv/wordpress combo, but good to know what is out there Mark www.overlander.tv Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For blogging geeks, it was pretty incredible to have both Blogger and Wordpress represent side by side at Pixelodeon: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/553043794/ Matt, who leads the Wordpress community, and Eric, the project manager of Blogger, each did a presentation/QA with the vloggers. Here's what we found out: Based on what we've asked for...Blogger is going to let you upload video IN THE POST soon using google video. It'll be Flash and/or QT. Plus blogger will have RSS 2.0 feeds with enclosures. I have actually seen this work with my own eyes. wow. Matt from Wordpress seemed pleasantly surprised to see all the things videobloggers have done with WP. Since WP.org is obviously a bottom up community, he encourages us to get more involved in their development community. We showed them the community we just started here: http://showinabox.tv/. Basically its a theme specifically designed for a regularly published videoblog, a new vPiP that allows multiple formats and feeds, and a new Pledge Drive that lets you get your audience to pledge money to you automatically each month through paypal. Join the mailing list here: http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box Anywaygood things. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://politicalvideo.org 500 hours of George Bush speeches!! Search, download, remix!! - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How to put ads into videos - best solution
That looks great John Unfortunately atm Im on an older mac, so cant install Mac OS4 johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.videoclix.com is quite adaptable. John Leeke by cam and light he shoots it right www.HistoricHomeWorks.com - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
