Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck

On 18/05/10 11:24, Jeff Horelick wrote:

Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout the
web in places that the whole:

link.sh: We don't need libXt!
link.sh: Removing libXt!

thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff
on linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove
libxt from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very
simple patch to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of
removing which sounds quite a bit less scary.

Regards,
JD

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Now that you mention it, the word remove could be ambiguous (though 
after OK link works I never thought that the removal could be other 
than from the link command-line), but delink sounds barbarous to me. 
What about (in pseudo-printf notation):


OK, linking works, let's try and simplify the command-line
Trying not to use the %s library
This Vim build doesn't need the %s library
This Vim build DOES need the %s library
Linked fine, the link command-line cannot be simplified
Using auto/link.sed to simplify the link command-line
Linked fine using some fewer libraries


?

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Matt Wozniski
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Cesar Romani wrote:
 On 18/05/2010 04:24 a.m., Jeff Horelick wrote:
 Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout the
 web in places that the whole:

 link.sh: We don't need libXt!
 link.sh: Removing libXt!

 thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff
 on linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove
 libxt from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very
 simple patch to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of
 removing which sounds quite a bit less scary.

 I'd use unlinking instead of delinking.

I'd say Not linking in libXt or Removing libXt from libraries or
Going to link without libXt.

~Matt

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Dominique Pellé
Cesar Romani wrote:

 On 18/05/2010 04:24 a.m., Jeff Horelick wrote:
 Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout the
 web in places that the whole:

 link.sh: We don't need libXt!
 link.sh: Removing libXt!

 thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff
 on linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove
 libxt from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very
 simple patch to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of
 removing which sounds quite a bit less scary.

 I'd use unlinking instead of delinking.

How about this message instead:  link.sh: Trying to link without libXt

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Gary Johnson
On 2010-05-18, Matt Wozniski wrote:
 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Cesar Romani wrote:
  On 18/05/2010 04:24 a.m., Jeff Horelick wrote:
  Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout the
  web in places that the whole:
 
  link.sh: We don't need libXt!
  link.sh: Removing libXt!
 
  thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff
  on linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove
  libxt from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very
  simple patch to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of
  removing which sounds quite a bit less scary.
 
  I'd use unlinking instead of delinking.
 
 I'd say Not linking in libXt or Removing libXt from libraries or
 Going to link without libXt.

I was also going to suggest not linking.  Definitely not
unlinking.  Think about that.

Regards,
Gary

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Charles Campbell

Gary Johnson wrote:

On 2010-05-18, Matt Wozniski wrote:
  

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Cesar Romani wrote:


On 18/05/2010 04:24 a.m., Jeff Horelick wrote:
  

Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout the
web in places that the whole:

link.sh: We don't need libXt!
link.sh: Removing libXt!

thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff
on linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove
libxt from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very
simple patch to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of
removing which sounds quite a bit less scary.


I'd use unlinking instead of delinking.
  

I'd say Not linking in libXt or Removing libXt from libraries or
Going to link without libXt.



I was also going to suggest not linking.  Definitely not
unlinking.  Think about that.
  


How about   link.sh: Vim doesn't need libXt, so you don't either!  Am 
uninstalling it now ...  ... ... Done!  (just kidding!)


:)

Regards,
Chip Campbell

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar

Jeff Horelick wrote:

 Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout
 the web in places that the whole:
 
 link.sh: We don't need libXt!
 link.sh: Removing libXt!
 
 thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff on
 linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove libxt
 from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very simple patch
 to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of removing which
 sounds quite a bit less scary.

Are these the same people that ask for a copy of the internet?

Anyway, using omit instead of remove is probably better.
I don't know what delinking is.

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie JD
On May 18, 4:29 pm, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote:
 Jeff Horelick wrote:
  Hey, i've noticed some people saying on IRC and randomly throughout
  the web in places that the whole:

  link.sh: We don't need libXt!
  link.sh: Removing libXt!

  thing is a bit scary if you're new to compiling vim or compiling stuff on
  linux in general because you might think its actually going to remove libxt
  from your whole system. Because of this, I have attached a very simple patch
  to change the link.sh echos to say delinking instead of removing which
  sounds quite a bit less scary.

 Are these the same people that ask for a copy of the internet?

 Anyway, using omit instead of remove is probably better.
 I don't know what delinking is.

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They're also likely the type of people who own the Brooklyn Bridge
(does that joke work outside the US?).

Omit sounds quite good to me. I used delinking because I was sort of
under the impression that it built Vim linking to all these libraries
and then link.sh stripped them out, but i could be wrong.

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Re: Patch to make link.sh output a bit less scary.

2010-05-18 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck

On 18/05/10 22:42, JD wrote:
[...]

They're also likely the type of people who own the Brooklyn Bridge
(does that joke work outside the US?).


I'm Belgian, and I've met it before, so maybe it does.



Omit sounds quite good to me. I used delinking because I was sort of
under the impression that it built Vim linking to all these libraries
and then link.sh stripped them out, but i could be wrong.



that's what it does (removing them one at a time from the link 
command-line then trying to repeat the link without them) but the main 
objection about delinking was that the word isn't known. Linking 
without, not using, omitting (i.e. omitting from the link) etc. all 
are known English terms which any Vim developer from all over the world 
would be supposed to understand.



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