Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
But then, if I change my region to the USA and I'm actually in the UK, won't it 
affect other things like location, clock alarms, etc.?

Andrew
On 30 Dec 2012, at 23:53, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 change your region to the US, then your default voice will be Samantha.
 Caitlyn
 
 On 2012-12-30, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I, too, would like to get rid of Daniel and have Samantha back. But as i 
 live in Britain, I don't seem to be able to choose Samantha. I was 
 disappointed with this when it happened. I don't know what it is about 
 Daniel, but it irritates me. 
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to see that I get an HQ American voice so that I can ditch Daniel 
 completely if we get more than one HQ Voice on our IOS devices.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:13 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 By Mary,. 
 
 Good thought and if it worked as you suggested, that would be great. 
 However it still changes languages for me and the only options in my 
 language rotor is Australian and British English. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 30/12/2012, at 11:38 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bret, can't you just  not have any languages other than English in your 
 language rotor to deal with the problem on ios? I have an android device 
 and ios devices, and the ability to read multiple languages in the same 
 document is simply not present in Android at this time. Plus, changing 
 from one language to another is much messier under Android than it is 
 with the language settings in ios. Apple did a really good job for those 
 of us who want to use more than one language.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread cait furness
Well, I'm in Canada, and I switched my region to Ireland to get the default 
voice I wanted and it hasn't seemed to mess with the calendar or location.  It 
did change the time format to 24 hour, but I can handle that, prefer it, in 
fact.  what made me do this is because I had the irish voice in my router and 
every time I turned my phone back on it defaulted back to Daniel since I have 
my default to british english since I'm in Canada.  It was irritating.  
I guess all you can do is try it and see if it messes up anything you find 
important.  If it does, you can always switch back, right?  Not trying to sound 
caviller..
hth,
Caitlyn

On 2012-12-31, at 4:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote:

 But then, if I change my region to the USA and I'm actually in the UK, won't 
 it affect other things like location, clock alarms, etc.?
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 23:53, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 change your region to the US, then your default voice will be Samantha.
 Caitlyn
 
 On 2012-12-30, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I, too, would like to get rid of Daniel and have Samantha back. But as i 
 live in Britain, I don't seem to be able to choose Samantha. I was 
 disappointed with this when it happened. I don't know what it is about 
 Daniel, but it irritates me. 
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to see that I get an HQ American voice so that I can ditch Daniel 
 completely if we get more than one HQ Voice on our IOS devices.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:13 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 By Mary,. 
 
 Good thought and if it worked as you suggested, that would be great. 
 However it still changes languages for me and the only options in my 
 language rotor is Australian and British English. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 30/12/2012, at 11:38 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bret, can't you just  not have any languages other than English in your 
 language rotor to deal with the problem on ios? I have an android device 
 and ios devices, and the ability to read multiple languages in the same 
 document is simply not present in Android at this time. Plus, changing 
 from one language to another is much messier under Android than it is 
 with the language settings in ios. Apple did a really good job for those 
 of us who want to use more than one language.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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RE: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Cait,

If  you set your region format to Canada you can have either Daniel or
Samantha. I of course prefer Samantha and while Karen, the Australian voice,
is also nice, I still prefer the HQ Samantha voice.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

Well, I'm in Canada, and I switched my region to Ireland to get the default
voice I wanted and it hasn't seemed to mess with the calendar or location.
It did change the time format to 24 hour, but I can handle that, prefer it,
in fact.  what made me do this is because I had the irish voice in my router
and every time I turned my phone back on it defaulted back to Daniel since I
have my default to british english since I'm in Canada.  It was irritating.

I guess all you can do is try it and see if it messes up anything you find
important.  If it does, you can always switch back, right?  Not trying to
sound caviller..
hth,
Caitlyn

On 2012-12-31, at 4:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com
wrote:

 But then, if I change my region to the USA and I'm actually in the UK,
won't it affect other things like location, clock alarms, etc.?
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 23:53, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 change your region to the US, then your default voice will be Samantha.
 Caitlyn
 
 On 2012-12-30, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I, too, would like to get rid of Daniel and have Samantha back. But as i
live in Britain, I don't seem to be able to choose Samantha. I was
disappointed with this when it happened. I don't know what it is about
Daniel, but it irritates me. 
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to see that I get an HQ American voice so that I can ditch
Daniel completely if we get more than one HQ Voice on our IOS devices.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:13 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 By Mary,. 
 
 Good thought and if it worked as you suggested, that would be great.
However it still changes languages for me and the only options in my
language rotor is Australian and British English. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 30/12/2012, at 11:38 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bret, can't you just  not have any languages other than English in
your language rotor to deal with the problem on ios? I have an android
device and ios devices, and the ability to read multiple languages in the
same document is simply not present in Android at this time. Plus, changing
from one language to another is much messier under Android than it is with
the language settings in ios. Apple did a really good job for those of us
who want to use more than one language.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: A Mystery with my iPad Mini

2012-12-31 Thread David Chittenden
This means you are double-tapping with two fingers. Go to settings, general, 
voice-over, practice area and practice the various gestures. iOS will tell you 
what you are actually doing rather than what you think you are doing. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 31/12/2012, at 12:25, Karen Poulakos kpoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I have experienced something strange in several apps on my Mini.  When I 
 attempt to tap a button in an app, other than the music app, music will start 
 playing.  I have no idea what I'm tapping that's causing this.  And can't 
 seem to find a way to turn it off without going into the Music app. Any ideas 
 of what I can do about this?  Is there an unmarked button on the screen at 
 all times for playing music?  This even happened on my home page.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
 Karen P 
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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
But we write with multiple fingers when using a braille display on our IOS 
devices so why the complaints now because it's an App?

Kawal.
On 30 Dec 2012, at 05:12 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Yes'ish!  It'll do the same when you're done paying;  but you do get to type 
 with all 6 fingers like real braille.
 
 RobH.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille 
 on your touchscreen
 
 
 Hi friends:
 
 Is this app similar to the type in braille app that is currently available 
 on the app store?
 
 Regards.
 Marcos Rodrigues
 mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
 Em 30/12/2012, às 09:42, Søren Jensen escreveu:
 
 Hi.
 I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english going 
 to be supported? I'm especially thinking about the danish characters.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 27/12/2012 kl. 13.31 skrev BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com:
 
 Greetings and Happy Holidays!
 
 My name is Caleb, and I'm one of the developers of a new iPhone app 
 called BrailleTouch. BrailleTouch allows you to type using braille on 
 your touchscreen, and is based on the standard six key braille keyboard. 
 We are excited to announce that BrailleTouch will be on the App Store by 
 the end of January! We hope that you will like BrailleTouch and find it 
 useful. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have, and I've included 
 some more information about the app below.
 
 With BrailleTouch, you can send text messages, emails, and tweets from 
 the touchscreen braille keyboard. You can also copy text you type in 
 braille to the clipboard and paste it into other apps on your iPhone. 
 There is a free version of BrailleTouch, so you can try it before you buy 
 it. The free version lets you type in braille and hear the text you 
 entered. Many braille instructors have told us that they would like to 
 use BrailleTouch as a teaching tool, which the free version will support. 
 Additional features are available as In App Purchases. The Messaging 
 Upgrade allows you to send text messages, emails, and tweets from the 
 touchscreen braille keyboard. The Clipboard Upgrade allows you to copy 
 text from the touchscreen braille keyboard and paste it into other apps 
 on your iPhone.
 
 BrailleTouch is based on research conducted at Georgia Tech in Atlanta, 
 Georgia, USA, where I am a graduate student. My colleagues and I tested 
 the software with eleven volunteers who are blind. We found that people 
 who knew the standard Perkins braille keyboard were able to master 
 BrailleTouch within an hour of practice and type at an average of 23 
 words per minute using Grade 1 braille. We received such positive 
 feedback that we were inspired to take this research out of the 
 laboratory and release BrailleTouch to the public. We hope this software 
 will provide a helpful alternative to the VoiceOver split tap keyboard, 
 and that it will help improve the mobile computing experience for people 
 in the blind community who use an iPhone.
 
 BrailleTouch is fully compatible with VoiceOver. It works on the iPhone 
 3GS through the iPhone 5, iPod touch models since the 3rd generation, and 
 requires iOS 5.0 or a later operating system. BrailleTouch is only for 
 the iPhone and iPod touch, and is not supported on the iPad. The first 
 release is based on North American English Grade 1 Uncontracted Braille. 
 You can choose to hear speech feedback for each character you type, each 
 word you type, or both.
 
 More information about BrailleTouch is available on our website:
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 The website includes a User Guide and Frequently Asked Questions. You can 
 also sign up for our email list, and we will notify you when we have an 
 exact release date in January for the app.
 
 We are also on Twitter:
 https://twitter.com/brailletouch
 
 With the free version of BrailleTouch, you can try out the touchscreen 
 braille keyboard and hear the text that you typed read back to you. The 
 Messaging Upgrade allows you to send text messages, emails, and tweets, 
 and costs US$9.99. The Clipboard Upgrade allows you to copy text from the 
 braille keyboard to paste into other apps, and costs US$9.99. You must 
 have the Messaging Upgrade first before you can get the Clipboard 
 Upgrade.
 
 I am happy to answer any questions you may have. We are very excited 
 about the upcoming release of BrailleTouch on the App Store. I hope that 
 you will like BrailleTouch and find it useful.
 
 Best wishes and happy holidays,
 Caleb
 The BrailleTouch Team
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 
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RE: list recorder full locked on iPad

2012-12-31 Thread Robbie Miller
Hi All, I shut down the iPad, waited a minute and restarted it. Now list
Recorder Full works just fine.

Thanks.

Robbie


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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: list recorder full locked on iPad

Hello All, 

I purchased list recorder lite for my iPhone a couple of years ago. 
Last March, I bought an iPad3, and synched all the apps on my iPhone4S with
my iPad3, including list recorder lite, which still works fine on the iPad3.


A couple days ago, on my iPhone, I purchased List Recorder full from the app
store. It works fine on my iPhone.

Last night, on my iPad, I installed list recorder full from the app store,
(it installed without charging me). However, when I open the app, none of
the buttons work, not even the get help button. I can't do anything with
list recorder full on my iPad. 

I have deleted and reinstalled the app a number of times, but I get the same
results, the app opens, but none of the buttons work. They are not dimmed,
they just don't work. 

I have tried to repurchase list recorder full from my iPad, but the app
store won't let me.

I have open list recorder lite on the iPad(it still works), went into help
and upgrade, but the option to purchase list recorder full is dimmed.
 
I would appreciate any help with this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Robbie


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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I 
phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I tried 
that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a 
combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct letters 
never got written as I could never understand what to do with it. How different 
will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were typing on a 
perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed, will Voice Over 
just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I encourage you to get  grade 
2 out as soon as possible.

Kawal. 

On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:09 PM, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
 Which other braille typing app are you referring to.
 
 BrailleTouch is very different from TypeInBraille. You can type on 
 BrailleTouch with the same six fingers you use on a Perkins-style keyboard. 
 Our testers were able to transfer their skills from a standard Braille 
 keyboard to BrailleTouch in less than an hour of practice and type an average 
 of 23 words per minute.
 
 The other app is Type Brailler Learn Braille. BrailleTouch has a similar 
 keyboard layout. But BrailleTouch is fully compatible with VoiceOver, and you 
 do not have to set your hand location before typing. BrailleTouch is also 
 designed to let you quickly send text messages, emails, tweets, or copy text 
 to the clipboard directly from the braille keyboard.
 
 I hope this helps.
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com
 
 On Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:52:04 PM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:
 
 What's so different about this one, as I could not use the other one that 
 was in the App Store. If it had grade 2 support then I'd be keen to try it. 
 
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Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It will afect Siri too as half of the time, Siri couldn't understand me.

Kawal.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 09:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote:

 But then, if I change my region to the USA and I'm actually in the UK, won't 
 it affect other things like location, clock alarms, etc.?
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 23:53, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 change your region to the US, then your default voice will be Samantha.
 Caitlyn
 
 On 2012-12-30, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I, too, would like to get rid of Daniel and have Samantha back. But as i 
 live in Britain, I don't seem to be able to choose Samantha. I was 
 disappointed with this when it happened. I don't know what it is about 
 Daniel, but it irritates me. 
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to see that I get an HQ American voice so that I can ditch Daniel 
 completely if we get more than one HQ Voice on our IOS devices.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:13 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 By Mary,. 
 
 Good thought and if it worked as you suggested, that would be great. 
 However it still changes languages for me and the only options in my 
 language rotor is Australian and British English. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 30/12/2012, at 11:38 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bret, can't you just  not have any languages other than English in your 
 language rotor to deal with the problem on ios? I have an android device 
 and ios devices, and the ability to read multiple languages in the same 
 document is simply not present in Android at this time. Plus, changing 
 from one language to another is much messier under Android than it is 
 with the language settings in ios. Apple did a really good job for those 
 of us who want to use more than one language.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread BrailleTouch
Hi Kawal,

With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the 
same six fingers you would use on a Perkins Brailler or similar keyboard. 
The app will speak each character you type immediately. You can also choose 
to hear each word you type, or both characters and words, from VoiceOver. 
BrailleTouch reads each character as soon as you lift your fingers off the 
touchscreen. Grade 2 is our top priority for a future update.

Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/

On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:08:22 AM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:

 I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I 
 phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I 
 tried that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a 
 combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct 
 letters never got written as I could never understand what to do with it. 
 How different will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were 
 typing on a perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed, 
 will Voice Over just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I 
 encourage you to get  grade 2 out as soon as possible.

 Kawal. 



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RE: Wi drive - more, better blurb.`

2012-12-31 Thread Debbie Downey
Thanks!

I downloaded the free app and it seems like it could work; the buttons for
the tabs aren't labeled but it is very easy to figure out what they are. I
purchased the drive this morning while it was still on sale!

  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:52 PM
To: ios
Cc: viphone
Subject: Wi drive - more, better blurb.`

Wi-Drive

Kingston's Wi-Drive is portable, wireless storage for your mobile devices,
including iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Android devices, Kindle Fire and more. 
Wi-Drive lets you store and share your favourite content with your favourite
people. It gives you up to 128GB of added storage for your mobile device and
lets you share photos, videos, music and more with three or more users on
their own mobile device. Access Wi-Drive through any Internet browser or
download one of the free Wi-Drive Apps to access and easily share the
content on your Wi-Drive. Best of all, Wi-Drive is backed by legendary
Kingston reliability and a one-year warranty.
Features
Portable, wireless storage
Works with iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, Android devices, Amazon Kindle Fire
Share your data with 3 or more users simultaneously Reviews It is easy to
use. You simply drag and drop files from their PC to Wi-Drive via USB cable,
similar to a typical USB Flash drive data transfer; then you download the
Wi-Drive app to connect your iOS devices to the Wi-Drive.
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Specifications
Capacities:2 32GB, 64GB, 128GB
Dimensions: 121.5mm x 61.8mm x 9.8mm

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RE: Podcast question

2012-12-31 Thread Sandy Finley
Grant, what you want to do is not a Windows function; it is controlled
through your particular podcast app. I personally use Downcast and have
found I can control which podcasts are downloaded. I have it set to download
new content for my specified ppodcasts every time I open it.  Then I have it
deleting all played podcasts. You can control the playback speed and have it
play continuously. And if you stop mid-podcast it remembers where you were
when you go back.

If you find them helpful, there is a tutorial podcast on AppleVis. HTH.

Sandy
 
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Vicki Meizinger
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Podcast question
On 12/30/2012 12:13 AM, Grant Hardy wrote:  Hi all,

 Is there a way to force iTunes for Windows to download all the 
 episodes for a given podcast, so that you could then sync them to your 
 iDevice for playback in the Podcasts app? Or do you have to download 
 each episode individually? I believe it's the latter, but let me know 
 if not. I realize that new episodes can all be downloaded 
 automatically, but I am asking about older ones.

 Grant


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Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

2012-12-31 Thread Sherrie
I like this game, Buzz mem.  It is quick to play.  I would like to see it 
remember my best score so I can compete against myself.  I don’t care about 
game center, twitter, or Facebook.  In fact, I hate it when people post game 
updates and such on my Facebook! Maybe I just want to compete against myself so 
I can actually win! LOL.
Sherrie



From: Søren Jensen 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

Hi. 
Pretty nice little game. The game center button in the menu doesn't work, and I 
can't find any settings in the game.

Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ 

Den 30/12/2012 kl. 01.36 skrev MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net:


  Found it, there is a space between buzz and mem.

  From: Wayne Merritt 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:53 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

  Try putting a space between buzz and mem, or using a capital M.



  Wayne Merritt
  Sent from my iPhone 5

  On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net wrote:


It’s called buzzmem? I can’t find it.

From: Max Christ 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: BuzzMem - Memory Game with Vibrations

I have created an iPhone game for a blind friend. The whole idea was to 
make a game to make players with and without vision equal. Not a just a game 
that can be played by visually impaired people too. 
The game is a memory game based on vibration patterns. It fully supports 
VoiceOver.

You can download the game in the App Store 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/buzzmem/id579628791 or read more about the 
creation process on my blog http://www.mczonk.de/2012/12/buzzmem/ .


I hope you like it. Please provide feedback what I could improve.
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Re: Battery for 4S

2012-12-31 Thread AppleGourmet
Thank you all for the brilliant  energy-saving tips! I'm already using some of 
these and some I am now going to use. However my initial question was not on 
how to save energy but how to get an additional power device  As mentioned 
earlier , I do not want to carry my charger with me all the time and then look 
for power  outlets. What is the most compact, efficient, Battery  back up I can 
take? Thank you for your interest. And thank you for your answers when I get 
them!
Happy new year!

I may mention here that I would like to at least double the life of my battery .

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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
type in braille is quite different from what I understand brailletouch will be. 
It usually took more than one tap to do a letter; for instance, l was three 
taps on the left; letters were broken up into components depending on where the 
dots of the cell fell. With this, if I understand correctly, a letter will take 
only one tap because you will tap with all the fingers involved in the letter 
at once. So, for instance, the letterl will be one tap but with your second, 
third and forth fingers on your left hand all together.


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On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I 
 phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I tried 
 that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a 
 combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct letters 
 never got written as I could never understand what to do with it. How 
 different will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were typing 
 on a perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed, will Voice 
 Over just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I encourage you to get  
 grade 2 out as soon as possible.
 
 Kawal. 
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:09 PM, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 Which other braille typing app are you referring to.
 
 BrailleTouch is very different from TypeInBraille. You can type on 
 BrailleTouch with the same six fingers you use on a Perkins-style keyboard. 
 Our testers were able to transfer their skills from a standard Braille 
 keyboard to BrailleTouch in less than an hour of practice and type an 
 average of 23 words per minute.
 
 The other app is Type Brailler Learn Braille. BrailleTouch has a similar 
 keyboard layout. But BrailleTouch is fully compatible with VoiceOver, and 
 you do not have to set your hand location before typing. BrailleTouch is 
 also designed to let you quickly send text messages, emails, tweets, or copy 
 text to the clipboard directly from the braille keyboard.
 
 I hope this helps.
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com
 
 On Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:52:04 PM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:
 What's so different about this one, as I could not use the other one that 
 was in the App Store. If it had grade 2 support then I'd be keen to try it. 
 
 
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In App Purchases for Dream Reader Voices.

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I Downloaded Voice Dream Reader the full one but can't seem to buy any In App 
Purchases as I want a a couple of voices.

Does any one know how I can buy a voice as there is no in App Purchase in the 
App.

Kawal.

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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, this is another thing I like about BrailleTouch compared to Fleksy and 
Type In Braille (btw I got fairly fast with Type in Braille so I'm expecting to 
do quite well with BrailleTouch as it will be much more straightforward). I 
like hearing my letters when I type them and not having to flick or swipe or 
anything to check what i wrote. The thing is: I can visualize (or maybe 
tactilize!) what it would feel like to do the Perkins braille combinations with 
my fingers on the phone so half the battle of learning to do this is already 
conquered. I know it will still be a bit different when I actually get the app, 
but I've been sitting holding my locked phone in what I believe is the right 
position and tapping my fingers down in the right combinations for practice. 
Okay, I suppose that sounds rather crazy, but I'm really anticipating this app 
and want to be as ready as possible when it comes out!



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On Dec 31, 2012, at 8:25 AM, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
 With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the 
 same six fingers you would use on a Perkins Brailler or similar keyboard. The 
 app will speak each character you type immediately. You can also choose to 
 hear each word you type, or both characters and words, from VoiceOver. 
 BrailleTouch reads each character as soon as you lift your fingers off the 
 touchscreen. Grade 2 is our top priority for a future update.
 
 Best,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:08:22 AM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:
 I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I 
 phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I tried 
 that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a 
 combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct letters 
 never got written as I could never understand what to do with it. How 
 different will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were typing 
 on a perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed, will Voice 
 Over just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I encourage you to get  
 grade 2 out as soon as possible.
 
 Kawal. 
 
 
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Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Tessa
I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
purposes and haven't got through them yet.
Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
phone yet.
I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
security.
Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
Tessa
And a happy new year to all
My groups
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Re: Phone Drive

2012-12-31 Thread Mickey Quenzer
Thanks Rob I'll check this out today I appreciate your help

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Ok, two things;  first, along the bottom there is a menu button, so click 
 that and flick right or left, until you get to settings.  This is the app 
 settings.  Near the end of those, there is iCloud, toggle on or off.  and 
 Dropbox,  toggle on or off.  The system will ask you to confirm  that you 
 want Phone Drive to be able to use your Dropbox,  and then it's done and 
 will show up under the root folder of Phone Drive.
 
 second,  if you feel in the bottom right corner, there is the syncg button. 
 Click that and you get tons of options, http or ftp saves you going through 
 dropbox at all to get the files on, though you do have to have pc and iOs on 
 the same wifi network.
 The instructions are there,  and they're simple, and work pretty well.. 
 Honest!
 
 Incidentally, and relates to someone else question;  BT and wifi direct 
 connect are here too.  I used the BT once and it wasn't any slower than any 
 other of the methods.
 
 RobH.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mickey Quenzer mickey.quen...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Phone Drive
 
 
 Still trying to transfer my first file can't figure out how you hook up 
 dropbox to the  Disc Drive application
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, what levelsof success are users having with this;  how much is being
 uploaded at a time and how reliably?  i'm getting flaky results and it's
 taking absolutely ages;  though am trying to shovel a lot at a time. So
 frustrating, not good enough if you can only upload a few at a time if you
 have 000s of tracks.
 
 Comments please?  RobH.
 
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Re: arabic language

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten
How the heck would you use a dictionary if vo were turned off? Do you have to 
speak the words you want translated?

Mary

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Re: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Bret,
How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did it 
replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.

Mary

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Reversing panning buttons on focus 14

2012-12-31 Thread Kimber Gardner
Hi,

Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the focus 14 when
using it with the iPhone? In the user guide, it describes how to do
this with Jaws when using a laptop, but I can't find anything about
reversing panning with the iPhone.

Thanks,
Kim

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 I know there is a list of Braille commands with i-devices. But does anyone
 know if there is a list of Braille commands specifically for the focus 14
 blue? thanks.

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Re: Gmail Account on iPhone4 is Rejecting Posts to the Group

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't think, though I could be wrong, that the server rejects on the basis of 
whether your message comes from your phone or your pc. I know this is going to 
sound like asking the obvious, but are you using the same email address on your 
phone as on your pc and if not, is the email address on your phone subscribed 
to the list? Also, does the rejection notice indicate a reason for the 
rejection?

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 31, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

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 This post is being sent through my PC. When I attempted to post through the
 phone, the email was rejected from the Viphone group server. I would like to
 know where I need to trouble shoot to fix this issue, so I can post a
 response from my iPhone4 instead of the PC? I appreciate all of the
 suggestions on how to resolve this. 
 
 Eileen 
 
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BrailleTouch App cost comparison

2012-12-31 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello, 

If this was posted, please forgive me. I am having some difficulty emailing
from the phone. If this app will do what it says, then I will definitely
support the app and purchase it. That is the bottom line for me. I would
like to point out that some of the individuals that may be concerned about
the cost, may have purchase either Read2Go or Digit-Eyes. Both of these
apps cost $20 to have them installed on our iDevices. I use both of these
apps extensively, and they were worth every cent that I spent. For those
that do not have the resources to purchase a braille display or braille note
taker, then this app will fit the bill nicely to process in braille. As a
rehabilitation therapist and occupational therapist for individual with
visual impairments, this app will be an adjunct when performing braille
training. Once contracted braille is added, it will be a pleasure to word
process in braille. I can't wait to see how the app will work and take it
for a spin. 

Eileen 

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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Caleb,

Are you planning on releasing Braille Touch for iPad, or is it not possible?

Andrew
On 31 Dec 2012, at 14:25, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
 With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the 
 same six fingers you would use on a Perkins Brailler or similar keyboard. The 
 app will speak each character you type immediately. You can also choose to 
 hear each word you type, or both characters and words, from VoiceOver. 
 BrailleTouch reads each character as soon as you lift your fingers off the 
 touchscreen. Grade 2 is our top priority for a future update.
 
 Best,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:08:22 AM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:
 I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I 
 phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I tried 
 that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a 
 combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct letters 
 never got written as I could never understand what to do with it. How 
 different will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were typing 
 on a perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed, will Voice 
 Over just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I encourage you to get  
 grade 2 out as soon as possible.
 
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Re: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Moop Curran
Hi Mary, 
At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading documents because 
the screen can be locked while reading. That's the reason I never used ibooks 
much. 
Courtney 

Sent from my iPhone

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 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did it 
 replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
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RE: iPad 1st generation upgrade of IOS?

2012-12-31 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Ben, 

Thanks. I have sent the instructions on to my son and will report back the
results ASAP and if any other assistance may be necessary. 

Eileen 

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Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad 1st generation upgrade of IOS?

Hi,

Is it currently running 4 or 5? Only 5 has the software update button so if
it's running 4, you'll have to connect to a computer and do it through
iTunes. Going from 4 to 5 is a worthwhile update imo so it's probably worth
doing.

Cheers,
Ben.

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 Hi Kevin,

 When trying to attempt the upgrade, there was no software button in 
 the general settings. Where is the software upgrade button located? 
 This is my son's iPad, and I am trying to complete the process for him.

 Thanks.

 Eileen

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 Behalf Of Kevin Barry
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPad 1st generation upgrade of IOS?

 5.1.1 is it.

 At 03:18 PM 12/30/2012, you wrote:
Hello List,

I was wondering if an iPad 1st generation can be upgraded to IOS 6? If 
not, can it still be upgraded to 5.0 or is this individual out-of-luck?
Thanks for any suggestions.

Eileen

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i pad mini accessories?

2012-12-31 Thread Ann Chiappetta
Hi;

Getting ready to buy an I pad mini and want a good case and  Bluetooth
keyboard, the latter with hard  tactile keys. Suggestions? Been shopping
around on Amazon: just wanted feedback if you can help.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

Annie  

 

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RE: Battery for 4S

2012-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I did reply to your initial post that apart from implementing some of these
power saving tricks, your two options are either an external battery or a
battery case. As for battery cases, most of the ones I have seen are
basically the same, the phone slides in and the battery is usually behind
the phone. These do add to the thickness of the phone more than the size and
you just have to do your research as to which one you want. With people on
this list living all over the world it's hard to make a specific
recommendation and then maybe the product isn't available. Amazon, the Apple
Store (online or retail stores), Best Buy, Radio Shack, any of these places
will have battery packs/cases. In a way Amazon and the Apple Store online
have the advantage that the products have ratings and you can read user
reviews.

I am not sure which iPhone you have, but you want a battery pack that has at
least the same capacity or more than the capacity of your iPhone's battery.
Most battery cases seem to be in the 1,400 to 2,100 MA capacity and while
the ones with a larger capacity may be slightly thicker I would opt for one
that has at least 1,900 or 2,000 MA which means you should get one full
charge and change out of it. Below are the battery specs for the iPhone 4,
4S and 5, in addition to Millie Amps batteries usually also have a WH or WHR
rating, that stands for Watt Hours and while I am not a physisist, you can
compare that number for the iPhone against that of the battery case if it is
given.

iPhone 4:   1,400 MA, 4.8 WHr
iPhone 4S:  1,432 MA, 5.3 WHr
iPhone 5:   1,445 MA, 5.45 WHr


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RE: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tessa,

Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
password. For example, Netgear routers usually use admin as the user name
and password as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.

OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into Settings
and Store and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
enable this.

If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
it. You can google iPhone 4 resale values or something like to get an idea
what they are going for.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Upgraded to 4s

I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
purposes and haven't got through them yet.
Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
phone yet.
I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
security.
Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
Tessa
And a happy new year to all
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Re: A Mystery with my iPad Mini

2012-12-31 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Karen,

From any screen generally, it is possible to do a double tap with two fingers 
to start and/ or stop playing music.

So this can even happen from the home screen, is it possible that you are doing 
this, given the larger screen size of the iPad Mini etc?



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On 30 Dec 2012, at 23:25, Karen Poulakos kpoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I have experienced something strange in several apps on my Mini.  When I 
 attempt to tap a button in an app, other than the music app, music will start 
 playing.  I have no idea what I'm tapping that's causing this.  And can't 
 seem to find a way to turn it off without going into the Music app. Any ideas 
 of what I can do about this?  Is there an unmarked button on the screen at 
 all times for playing music?  This even happened on my home page.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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RE: Battery for 4S

2012-12-31 Thread AppleGourmet
Thank you! I was hoping for a more specific suggestion. There are so many 
battery cases and so many add ong battery  cases  that it's difficult to know 
which one is good. Thank you anyway you have always been most kind and most 
helpful! God bless! 

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Re: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.

2012-12-31 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Gina,

Two thins of note;

Apple could never claim, nor could we, that their products were originally 
designed for the blindness market. Its in none of their marketing materials 
etc, Apple have specifically designed this for blind users and not sighted ones 
etc.

Secondly, having pushed Apple hard on this, that is , why some stores do it, 
and others do not. I have received an e-mail from them last week confirming 
that an error had been made at certain stores… That Apple would pay the VAT on 
the orders to date that they should not have let through, and that they would 
not be making this clear mistake into the future.

I rang the store that I had got the VAT off of only four weeks ago, and asked 
to speak to the same employee… Without indicating that I knew that things in 
theory had changed, I asked if I could come back and buy another Mac… He 
stated, not with VAT nil rated, that they had receive a directive from head 
office, explaining that they had been breaching VAT regulations and that they 
could no longer nil rate VAT.

so that, as they say is that.





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On 25 Dec 2012, at 23:28, Georgina Joyce r...@o2.co.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 It is a nice one for lawyers to argue about. I guess Apple could argue that 
 4.5.2 was applicable. How does anyone know what the original intention was?
 
 What concerns me is that some potential recipients on this list and the 
 access UK list are finding it difficult to accept. Surely, we should be 
 helping each other and share the names of those stores that provide the 
 exemption. Whether in the course in time they all do or if it's at the 
 discretion of each manager, I don't know. But good luck to all those who have 
 received it. Regent Square, Belfast and Trafford Centre.
 
 Let's just stop quoting legal stuff and support our fellow VIP in accessing 
 IOS devices. After all, that is what this list is for.
 
 Gena
 
 
 
 
 On 25/12/2012 21:25, Peter Holdstock wrote:
 Hi, appologies as the only messages I've seen on this subject are those
 below. But I thought this might clarify the fact that Apple products
 wouldn't be covered for zero vat as they weren't specifically designed
 for disabled people. The link to the page on the HMRC site is below.
 
 4.5 Other equipment and appliances “designed solely” for use by a
 disabled person
 
 4.5.1 General
 
 You can zero rate the supply to an eligible customer as detailed in
 paragraph 3.1 of any other equipment and appliances that have been
 designed solely for use by disabled people.
 
 It is not sufficient for zero-rating that the equipment or appliance is
 merely destined or intended for use by a disabled person, or is mainly
 purchased by disabled persons. For example, general purpose equipment
 such as most computer hardware, ordinary or orthopaedic beds,
 orthopaedic or reclining chairs may benefit a disabled person, but are
 designed for general use or for use by disabled and able bodied people
 alike. Such products are not eligible for relief.
 
 Equipment which has been designed solely for use by a disabled people
 will remain eligible for relief even though they are available to be
 purchased by people who do not have a disability. VAT relief will
 however only apply to supplies which are made to eligible persons or
 bodies as detailed in paragraph 3.1.
 
 4.5.2 Meaning of “designed solely for use by a disabled person”
 
 This means the original intention of the designer was to produce
 equipment or an appliance designed solely to meet the needs of persons
 with one or more disabilities. The design must succeed in that the
 product does in fact meet the needs of disabled persons. There are a
 number of conditions which may, but do not invariably result in
 disability - such as:
 ◾ asthma;
 ◾ psoriasis; and
 ◾ dyslexia.
 
 Equipment which meets the needs of people with such a condition will
 only qualify for zero-rating if designed solely for the purpose of
 meeting the needs of disabled sufferers of the condition.
 
 http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true_pageLabel=pageImport_ShowContentid=HMCE_CL_000184propertyType=document
 
 
 
 Peter
 
 -Original Message- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 4:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.
 
 Laura,
 
 Conflicting is not the word for it…
 
 I personally myself went into Apple Regents Street London, and bought 4
 iPad's, 3 Mini's and a 4th Gen, and paid no VAT for any of them.
 
 The senior cashier specifically told me that the information could be

Tax exemptions, was: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.

2012-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi List,

 

The topic about taxes on Apple products especially in the UK where there is a 
very high VAT has come up again and again over the last couple of months. I 
just wanted to comment that it should be up to organisations like the RNIB in 
the UK, the CNIB in Canada, the NFB in the States and so on to sort this out 
with the government. In a way I would argue that even though a Mac or an iPhone 
is not specifically made for the blind, Apple has invested a lot of money and 
effort to make it into a device for the blind and, as a rule, a much less 
expensive device than products specifically designed for the blind. This could 
be easily regulated by setting straight forward rules for when a person could 
obtain a tax exemption, e.g. it could be done by providing a certificate from a 
Doctor stating that the person really is blind and entitled for the exemption. 
You would then take this to the Apple Store to get your product without paying 
taxes.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kim
How do I use this?  I'm trying the light version and went through 
the short set up.  So far I haven't found instructions nor a 
description of what the app does.


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

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Voice Dream, never mind

2012-12-31 Thread Kim
Duh.  At the very end of the set up there is a choice to buy or 
cancel.  Silly me, as soon as I chose cancel I was on my way.


Sheepishly,

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Re: Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have just downloaded In App purchases. Does this thing support I books, and 
how?

Kawal.

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RE: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Turner
I tried out the free version.
Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I could find
on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it would begin reading,
but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of the text it was reading.
So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks or look
up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?

Richard
 

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Subject: Re: voice dream reader

Hi Mary,
At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading documents
because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the reason I never
used ibooks much. 
Courtney 

Sent from my iPhone

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 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did
it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
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Re: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have been using my braille display and thus far everything is accessible.

I deleted pride and Prejudice. I have written to the developer and have asked 
for I book support. I want for a voice to read I books for me.

Kawal.  

On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried out the free version.
 Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
 They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I could find
 on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it would begin reading,
 but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of the text it was reading.
 So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks or look
 up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Moop Curran
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voice dream reader
 
 Hi Mary,
 At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading documents
 because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the reason I never
 used ibooks much. 
 Courtney 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bret,
 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did
 it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Aman Singer
Hello, Kawal.
The program supports epub books without drm, but does not support drmed iBooks 
epubs, nor does it support the drmed epubs sold by Nook and Kobo.
Aman

On 2012-12-31, at 12:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 I have just downloaded In App purchases. Does this thing support I books, and 
 how?
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:38 PM, Kim k...@woodartdesign.com wrote:
 
 How do I use this?  I'm trying the light version and went through the short 
 set up.  So far I haven't found instructions nor a description of what the 
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Re: Tax exemptions, was: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.

2012-12-31 Thread harmony . neil
Don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but I've heard that all the apple 
products blind people in the UK can be exempt from VAT or whatever it is if 
they buy fom the Apple stores.  All their products except the iPhone itelf 
apparently.  I don't know why or if it's true, but that's just what I was told 
by a friend a few days ago.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi List,
  
 The topic about taxes on Apple products especially in the UK where there is a 
 very high VAT has come up again and again over the last couple of months. I 
 just wanted to comment that it should be up to organisations like the RNIB in 
 the UK, the CNIB in Canada, the NFB in the States and so on to sort this out 
 with the government. In a way I would argue that even though a Mac or an 
 iPhone is not specifically made for the blind, Apple has invested a lot of 
 money and effort to make it into a device for the blind and, as a rule, a 
 much less expensive device than products specifically designed for the blind. 
 This could be easily regulated by setting straight forward rules for when a 
 person could obtain a tax exemption, e.g. it could be done by providing a 
 certificate from a Doctor stating that the person really is blind and 
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 get your product without paying taxes.
  
  
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RE: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Turner
They say it works with Bookshare, which is DAISY.
Bret, could you post a bit more specifics of how you get files into the app,
etc.  I just played around with the free 
 version a bit and hope to have more time with it later.

Thanks,
Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice dream reader

Hi mary,

I took a look at the app and I have now purchased it. If you want to read
text, word PDF epub html etc, this app is brilliant. 

There is a lite version available that you can try to see if it meats your
needs. This has just replaced three different apps for me. I don't have book
share, so can't comment on that but it doesn't mention anything about daisy.
If you try it and discover anything more about the daisy side of things, can
you pass it on? 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

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 A friend of mine just told me about this app which, among other things,
includes support for bookshare. Has anybody on list tried it?
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader-lite/id563971853?mt
 =8
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RE: Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Turner
I think you will find that Apple won't allow anyone else to access the
reading of iBooks.  Apple does like their control over things.

Perhaps requesting more voices from Apple would be the way to go.

Richard
 

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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader

I have just downloaded In App purchases. Does this thing support I books,
and how?

Kawal.

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Re: Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Well I'll see if the developer will support I books.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:56 PM, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, Kawal.
 The program supports epub books without drm, but does not support drmed 
 iBooks epubs, nor does it support the drmed epubs sold by Nook and Kobo.
 Aman
 
 On 2012-12-31, at 12:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have just downloaded In App purchases. Does this thing support I books, 
 and how?
 
 Kawal.
 
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 How do I use this?  I'm trying the light version and went through the short 
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 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 
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XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Patti Johnson
I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online
account only for $14.95 a month,  and use that same account on your Iphone.
I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
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Re: voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Aman Singer
Hi, Kawal. 
I'm sure the developer would love to support iBooks, but would be stunned if 
Apple allowed this. You may want to ask that apple provide the acapela voices, 
though even that seems a long shot. 
Aman


On 2012-12-31, at 12:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 I have been using my braille display and thus far everything is accessible.
 
 I deleted pride and Prejudice. I have written to the developer and have asked 
 for I book support. I want for a voice to read I books for me.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I tried out the free version.
 Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
 They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I could find
 on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it would begin reading,
 but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of the text it was reading.
 So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks or look
 up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Moop Curran
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voice dream reader
 
 Hi Mary,
 At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading documents
 because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the reason I never
 used ibooks much. 
 Courtney 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bret,
 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did
 it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Wendy Alling
Oh thanks.  That's good to know. 
So glad you had a great time yesterday.  C't believe that the school is having 
the raisers treat training the dogs.  Sign of the times right?

Just got home and I'm glad to not be going out until Wednesday.  Already crazy 
on the roads.  We went out to breakfast and I got my hair cut.  I also ordered 
food from outback for tonight and tomorrow.  Talk to you soon.  Happy New Year.
Wendy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patti Johnson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:20 PM
  Subject: XM online


  I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online 
account only for $14.95 a month,  and use that same account on your Iphone.
  I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
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Safari with the iPhone

2012-12-31 Thread anthony cavigliano
Went IM surfing the Internet on my iPhone and once I've read by Headens all by 
form fields
For some reason when I gets a particular link I want to listen to it moves away 
from that link and navigates away
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Scorpion 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten
No, no ibooks, because they have drm. No drm is supported.

Mary

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RE: XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Patti Johnson
Yeah, you're right, it is a sign of the times and I do not like it.
 
Glad you got things accomplished.  I took Joycie out about noon or so, just
in case things with the weather started to get nasty again.
I hope it won't till later, so Jenny and Sam can be out and about today.
I think they were going to go to the Derby Museum and I suggested they do
the APH tour.
I also suggested the Slugger Museum and Louisville Stoneware.  So I hope
they had fun today.
 
Talk to you soon,
Happy New Year to you and Eve.
Patti
 
 
 
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wendy Alling
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: XM online


Oh thanks.  That's good to know. 
So glad you had a great time yesterday.  C't believe that the school is
having the raisers treat training the dogs.  Sign of the times right?
 
Just got home and I'm glad to not be going out until Wednesday.  Already
crazy on the roads.  We went out to breakfast and I got my hair cut.  I also
ordered food from outback for tonight and tomorrow.  Talk to you soon.
Happy New Year.
Wendy

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From: Patti  mailto:pat1...@insightbb.com Johnson 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:20 PM
Subject: XM online

I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online
account only for $14.95 a month,  and use that same account on your Iphone.
I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
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Re: My appologies to the list, XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Wendy Alling
My appologies.  This message was not for the list.  It was supposed to go to 
Patti Johnson and not the list.  I actually thought it was from her to me.  So 
sorry.  Just delete.
Wendy
  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:20 PM
  Subject: XM online


  I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online 
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RE: XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Patti Johnson
Oh dear, how did this happen?  I'm so sorry, this was supposed to be a
private message.
Patti
 
 
 
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Patti Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: XM online


Yeah, you're right, it is a sign of the times and I do not like it.
 
Glad you got things accomplished.  I took Joycie out about noon or so, just
in case things with the weather started to get nasty again.
I hope it won't till later, so Jenny and Sam can be out and about today.
I think they were going to go to the Derby Museum and I suggested they do
the APH tour.
I also suggested the Slugger Museum and Louisville Stoneware.  So I hope
they had fun today.
 
Talk to you soon,
Happy New Year to you and Eve.
Patti
 
 
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wendy Alling
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: XM online


Oh thanks.  That's good to know. 
So glad you had a great time yesterday.  C't believe that the school is
having the raisers treat training the dogs.  Sign of the times right?
 
Just got home and I'm glad to not be going out until Wednesday.  Already
crazy on the roads.  We went out to breakfast and I got my hair cut.  I also
ordered food from outback for tonight and tomorrow.  Talk to you soon.
Happy New Year.
Wendy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:20 PM
Subject: XM online

I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online
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I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
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Re: iBooks: slowing down automatic reading with braille.

2012-12-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I tried slowing down speech rate to zero, turning speech off, and using dots 
1-2-3-5-chord to read from cursor. The Braille speed doesn't change. I wonder 
if it would be different if speech were kept on and turned down all the way. 
I'm going to try that.

Teresa


Visualize whirled peas.

On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com 
wrote:

 Jen, have you tried sowing down VO's speech rate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 8:39 AM
 To: iPhone List
 Subject: iBooks: slowing down automatic reading with braille.
 
 Hi all.
 I'm trying to read iBooks with my braille connect. I've figured out how 
 !automatically advance the display, but can't figure out how to slow it down. 
 Any suggesttions?
 
 Jenifer Barr
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changes in braille from ios 5.1 to 6

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten
I have an old iPad 1 that can't upgrade to ios6 and an iPhone 4s which runs 
ios6. So braille display support for vo changed some in ios 6, but I can't 
recall what was added. I don't think the list of commands I have includes the 
new stuff for ios 6. I thought Ibooks continuous reading now works across page 
boundaries in ios 6. And I think there were a couple other changes but I don't 
remember them. Does anybody have the list or a link to an up-to-date one?

Mary

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RE: Gmail Account on iPhone4 is Rejecting Posts to the Group

2012-12-31 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi, 

 

To answer your questions, this is the account that is subscribed to the list
and it is my GMAIL email that is both on my iPhone4 and PC. I know that the
they are both configured the same for out and in coming mail. The iPhone4
will only state that the Viphone group server has rejected the email. I
would have to try it again to get the exact error message that the phone
reads out with VO. 

 

Eileen 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail Account on iPhone4 is Rejecting Posts to the Group

 

I don't think, though I could be wrong, that the server rejects on the basis
of whether your message comes from your phone or your pc. I know this is
going to sound like asking the obvious, but are you using the same email
address on your phone as on your pc and if not, is the email address on your
phone subscribed to the list? Also, does the rejection notice indicate a
reason for the rejection?

 

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Cheryl

 

May the words of my mouth

and the meditation of my heart

be acceptable to You, Lord,

my rock and my Redeemer.

(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





 

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wrote:





Hello, 

This post is being sent through my PC. When I attempted to post through the
phone, the email was rejected from the Viphone group server. I would like to
know where I need to trouble shoot to fix this issue, so I can post a
response from my iPhone4 instead of the PC? I appreciate all of the
suggestions on how to resolve this. 

Eileen 

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Re: Reversing panning buttons on focus 14

2012-12-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Unfortunately, no. I would do the same thing if I could. There is no way to 
modify the Braille commands on the IPhone, at least not for the average user. 
And yes, I'm an average user. :)

Teresa


Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Dec 31, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to reverse the panning buttons on the focus 14 when
 using it with the iPhone? In the user guide, it describes how to do
 this with Jaws when using a laptop, but I can't find anything about
 reversing panning with the iPhone.
 
 Thanks,
 Kim
 
 On 12/28/12, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here you go: :)
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/FocusWithiDevices/02_FocusWithIDevice.htm
 
 Traci
 1 step, 2 step, ... 1,311 steps! I can do the BIG CLIMB 2013, with your
 support. Our efforts  will help make a big difference in the fight against
 blood cancers. Please give to the Leukemia  Lymphoma Society. Learn more 
 donate here. Thank you.
 
 http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250
 
 On Dec 27, 2012, at 6:47 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I know there is a list of Braille commands with i-devices. But does anyone
 know if there is a list of Braille commands specifically for the focus 14
 blue? thanks.
 
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Re: How to open I books to other Screenreader Apps was voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
How do we go and ask Apple if they will open I books? After all, we'd not stop 
buying I books, but we could buy them and import them to other Apps which 
supported reading books.

Kawal.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 06:04 PM, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Kawal. 
 I'm sure the developer would love to support iBooks, but would be stunned if 
 Apple allowed this. You may want to ask that apple provide the acapela 
 voices, though even that seems a long shot. 
 Aman
 
 
 On 2012-12-31, at 12:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using my braille display and thus far everything is accessible.
 
 I deleted pride and Prejudice. I have written to the developer and have 
 asked for I book support. I want for a voice to read I books for me.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I tried out the free version.
 Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
 They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I could find
 on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it would begin reading,
 but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of the text it was reading.
 So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks or look
 up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?
 
 Richard
 
 
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 Of Moop Curran
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voice dream reader
 
 Hi Mary,
 At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading documents
 because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the reason I never
 used ibooks much. 
 Courtney 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bret,
 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which apps did
 it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Brent Harding
Can you get the NFL audio with that subscription? I am finding that as little 
as I use the Sirius app for music, the sub will be going in February when those 
two free months I got by trying to cancel last week  are up. I would like a way 
to have Nascar also as there is no MRN radio affiliate in my area, unless you 
have the right radio conditions and listen from a vehicle. Even then, I don't 
think $225 a year for the premier package and web listening is worth it. I was 
hoping that I could just activate the web account for the months that sports 
are on I'm interested in and then cancel, versus doing that with a receiver and 
paying $15 to keep reactivating, but I'm sure there's easier and better ways to 
listen to that stuff.

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  From: Patti Johnson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:20 PM
  Subject: XM online


  I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online 
account only for $14.95 a month,  and use that same account on your Iphone.
  I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
  Patti





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RE: XM online

2012-12-31 Thread Patti Johnson
I would imagine, but I really don't know about the NFL since I don't listen
to sports.
Patti
 
 
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: XM online


Can you get the NFL audio with that subscription? I am finding that as
little as I use the Sirius app for music, the sub will be going in February
when those two free months I got by trying to cancel last week  are up. I
would like a way to have Nascar also as there is no MRN radio affiliate in
my area, unless you have the right radio conditions and listen from a
vehicle. Even then, I don't think $225 a year for the premier package and
web listening is worth it. I was hoping that I could just activate the web
account for the months that sports are on I'm interested in and then cancel,
versus doing that with a receiver and paying $15 to keep reactivating, but
I'm sure there's easier and better ways to listen to that stuff.
 

- Original Message - 
From: Patti  mailto:pat1...@insightbb.com Johnson 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: XM online

I just spoke to some one at Sirius XM and she said you could have an online
account only for $14.95 a month,  and use that same account on your Iphone.
I may decide to do that at some point.  Just wanted to let you know.
Patti
 
 
 
 



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RE: How to open I books to other Screenreader Apps was voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Turner
I would say send an Email to accessibil...@apple.com
And go to the Apple Feedback form and give them feedback that way as well.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

HTH,
Richard

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to open I books to other Screenreader Apps was voice dream
reader

How do we go and ask Apple if they will open I books? After all, we'd not
stop buying I books, but we could buy them and import them to other Apps
which supported reading books.

Kawal.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 06:04 PM, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Kawal. 
 I'm sure the developer would love to support iBooks, but would be stunned
if Apple allowed this. You may want to ask that apple provide the acapela
voices, though even that seems a long shot. 
 Aman
 
 
 On 2012-12-31, at 12:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using my braille display and thus far everything is
accessible.
 
 I deleted pride and Prejudice. I have written to the developer and have
asked for I book support. I want for a voice to read I books for me.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I tried out the free version.
 Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
 They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I 
 could find on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it 
 would begin reading, but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of
the text it was reading.
 So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks 
 or look up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Moop Curran
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voice dream reader
 
 Hi Mary,
 At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading 
 documents because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the 
 reason I never used ibooks much.
 Courtney
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bret,
 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which 
 apps did
 it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: How to open I books to other Screenreader Apps was voice dream reader

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Great. I'll do so.

On 31 Dec 2012, at 08:38 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would say send an Email to accessibil...@apple.com
 And go to the Apple Feedback form and give them feedback that way as well.
 http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to open I books to other Screenreader Apps was voice dream
 reader
 
 How do we go and ask Apple if they will open I books? After all, we'd not
 stop buying I books, but we could buy them and import them to other Apps
 which supported reading books.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 06:04 PM, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Kawal. 
 I'm sure the developer would love to support iBooks, but would be stunned
 if Apple allowed this. You may want to ask that apple provide the acapela
 voices, though even that seems a long shot. 
 Aman
 
 
 On 2012-12-31, at 12:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using my braille display and thus far everything is
 accessible.
 
 I deleted pride and Prejudice. I have written to the developer and have
 asked for I book support. I want for a voice to read I books for me.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 31 Dec 2012, at 05:49 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I tried out the free version.
 Are you able to find actual text with VoiceOver?
 They provide Pride and Prejudice with the free version but all I 
 could find on the screen with VoiceOver was the word text and it 
 would begin reading, but I could not get VoiceOver to focus on any of
 the text it was reading.
 So, I am not sure how a VoiceOver user is supposed to set bookmarks 
 or look up definitions.  Am I missing something obvious?
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Moop Curran
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: voice dream reader
 
 Hi Mary,
 At least for me, this app is better than ibooks for reading 
 documents because the screen can be locked while reading. That's the 
 reason I never used ibooks much.
 Courtney
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bret,
 How is this app better than Ibooks for reading epub or pdf? Which 
 apps did
 it replace for you? If I do get it, I will definitely try bookshare.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: Safari with the iPhone

2012-12-31 Thread Shane Clark
Hi Anthony,
Its an apparebt bug in VO with the latest version of iOS. Its been this 
way-since 6.0.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:36 PM, anthony cavigliano scorpionggguni...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Went IM surfing the Internet on my iPhone and once I've read by Headens all 
 by form fields
 For some reason when I gets a particular link I want to listen to it moves 
 away from that link and navigates away
 Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
 Scorpion 
 
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Re: arabic language

2012-12-31 Thread heather albright
She said it will talk but vo, gets in the way when using the app.  Heather 


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Re: iBooks: slowing down automatic reading with braille.

2012-12-31 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi Frank. Speech isn't on which- I'm using braille.

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com 
wrote:

 Jen, have you tried sowing down VO's speech rate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 8:39 AM
 To: iPhone List
 Subject: iBooks: slowing down automatic reading with braille.
 
 Hi all.
 I'm trying to read iBooks with my braille connect. I've figured out how 
 !automatically advance the display, but can't figure out how to slow it down. 
 Any suggesttions?
 
 Jenifer Barr
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New member and introduction

2012-12-31 Thread Lori Dent

Hi all,

I just joined this list, so I'm a new member. My name is Lori and I live in 
Ohio. This afternoon I will be going out with my fiancee to purchase my new 
Iphone 5. I did get to see the Iphone 4 and 5 briefly and I was impressed 
with what I saw.


So with me going to be a new I phone user what things do I need to know 
about the Iphone? When I purchase my I phone 5 will there be some apps 
already on the phone or will I need to downloadthe apps I want? And where do 
I download the apps I want? I know I want to get the weather app and the 
money identifier app. Just to name a few.


Also what all does the I phone do? I know it has GPS on it and I can 
download music and do email on it amung other things Am I right? Anything 
you all can tell me about the I phone 5 would be appreciated. Thanks.


Lori 


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Re: Tax exemptions, was: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.

2012-12-31 Thread heather albright
we don't have this in the USA!  It sounds like a good program!  Heather 

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RE: wireless printer recommendations compatible with i devices and Windows pcs

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,
Rick found a system to install the Airprint service on a Windows machine
that is free.
You have to follow a few links to find the one you want but if you follow
the guys instruction, it works well.

Here is the link:
http://tinyurl.com/6xt5p9w

 HTH,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sherrie
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wireless printer recommendations compatible with i devices and
Windows pcs

I have an hP Officejet 4680 and discovered recently that it was wireless.  A
friend set it up to print wirelessly from my laptop.  So I installed an app
on my iPhone 5 called Printer Pro light to see if I could print from my
phone on it.  This is a free app that allows you to check to see if your
printer is usable.  It did print the test page and my husband says it looks
good.
Now to use it to print regular documents I need to download the regular
Printer Pro for iPhone app that costs $4.95.  Not a bad price but I am
trying to decide if i really need to print from my phone since I don't have
any documents there that are not on my laptop.
But the Printer Pro app seems to be pretty good and reasonable.  There were
two HP apps that were free but they did not detect my printer. Go figure.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: wireless printer recommendations compatible with i devices and
Windows pcs

Hi Amy,

There are definitely just printers out there which are Airprint compatible.
Here is a link I found when I googled Airprint compatible printers.
Apparently this list was updated in November 2012. I have an HP C310A and
C410A which are both multi-function and which are not listed, but I assume
that the list isn't complete and possibly focuses more on the newer models.
In any case, it will give you a pretty big list of models from various
manufacturers which you can check out.

http://ipod.about.com/od/usingios4/f/Airprint-Compatible-Printers.htm


Good luck,
Sieghard

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Confused new member

2012-12-31 Thread Jean Menzies
Just joined this list, and for starters, I'm very excited and can't wait for 
the release of the Braille Touch app. 

However, I am very confused as to the routing of messages. Here is what is 
going on, and perhaps someone can shed some light on this. 

I subscribed with an e-mail address that I typically use for all group 
messages. This is an address from my Internet Provider. This means that 
messages should go to my PC, or at least that's what I thought. 

Messages are coming to my phone, which uses a gmail account, not the account I 
subscribed with. I do have my IP e-mail address in my contacts under my name so 
that I can send myself messages on occasion. But I don't understand why the 
messages are being routed to my gmail account on my phone, when I subscribed 
with my server IP address. 

I quite like getting the messages on my phone now, but it would make it 
difficult to reply from there as that's not the subscribing account they are 
coming in on. Explanations, please? 

Thanks. 

Jean 

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Re: i pad mini accessories?

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
I'm still kitting up mine, so can't make final judgements. I think the 
keyboard is one of, or a close workalike, of the Amazon basic,  good size 
for full size iPad,  bigger than the Mini,  but what the heck, it's a good 
fit to the hand and works well.  Case, tons of flip cover type with magnets 
to operate the screen lock, but heading for military grade impact protection 
and not bothered about bulk.  No one has mentioned using the iBalls yet, 
it's not a case, but makes pretty good protection by all accounts, as it's 
like for rubber fenders on the corners; makes good high grip feet when you 
lay it down or prop it up.

RobH.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: i pad mini accessories?


Hi;

Getting ready to buy an I pad mini and want a good case and  Bluetooth
keyboard, the latter with hard  tactile keys. Suggestions? Been shopping
around on Amazon: just wanted feedback if you can help.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

Annie



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siri problem since upgrade

2012-12-31 Thread Lenny McHugh
Hello, I have the 4s and after the os upgrade siri does not do the same things. 
I use to be able to say find something siri would ask if I wanted her to search 
the internet.  When I responded with yes a search was launched. Now when I say 
yes or no she just says I thought so. How can I get her to actually launch the 
search?
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Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and 
the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. This includes 
those provided by cable providers.

RobH.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s


Hi Tessa,

Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
password. For example, Netgear routers usually use admin as the user name
and password as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.

OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into Settings
and Store and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
enable this.

If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
it. You can google iPhone 4 resale values or something like to get an idea
what they are going for.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tessa
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Upgraded to 4s

I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
purposes and haven't got through them yet.
Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
phone yet.
I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
security.
Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
Tessa
And a happy new year to all
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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

If I understand it right. The phone is held to provide a more like 
stainsby / shorthand machine formation rather than a perkins? As with 
the stainsby, could the keys be reversed? For those used to writing 
braille on a frame or the standard stainsby? i.e. The letter a dot 1 
generated by  the index finger of the right or left hand? Or is the 
orientation dots 1  4 are generated by the third finger of each hand?


What version of grade 1 is the app going to use? Is it computer braille 
thus numbers are lower case letters? Or do you need to use the number 
sign? Is the full stop 2  5 6 or 4 6? Or will this be switchable upon 
release?


Thanks.

Gena



On 30/12/2012 06:10, BrailleTouch wrote:

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your post. There is a free version of BrailleTouch. We hope this
will be useful for braille instructors, as well as for people who want to
try the app out. You do not have to buy an upgrade to use it with your
students.

The free version goes beyond the research prototype we developed at Georgia
Tech, which many braille instructors contacted us about. It will read back
characters, words, or both as you type. It will also speak the full
sentence that you typed in braille. I hope you will find this useful with
your students.

Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/


On Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:29:30 PM UTC-5, Richard Turner wrote:


  Hi,
Do you have prices for the various upgrades yet?
I am a braille instructor and have been looking forward to when this would
be released.

Thanks,
Richard







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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
Can I ask you to reconsider the term chord!  Those were always used, 
hitherto;  to relate to using the space key as a modifyer to get control 
hcaracters;  S chord for Status, P chord for Print, O chord for Options, and 
things like that.

The six dots for the character or symbol are just that, unshifted or 
modified in any way.

RobH.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille 
on your touchscreen


Hi Kawal,

With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the
same six fingers you would use on a Perkins Brailler or similar keyboard.
The app will speak each character you type immediately. You can also choose
to hear each word you type, or both characters and words, from VoiceOver.
BrailleTouch reads each character as soon as you lift your fingers off the
touchscreen. Grade 2 is our top priority for a future update.

Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/

On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:08:22 AM UTC-5, Kawal wrote:

 I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I
 phone.  Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I
 tried that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed 
 a
 combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct
 letters never got written as I could never understand what to do with it.
 How different will this be, will the keys instantly come up as if you were
 typing on a perkins? How will we know that a letter has been completed,
 will Voice Over just anounce it and we know that it's been done? I
 encourage you to get  grade 2 out as soon as possible.

 Kawal.



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Re: Gmail Account on iPhone4 is Rejecting Posts to the Group

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
I'll put the same argument a different way.  If you initiate a message, it 
will default to whatever address you got set as default; hwichi ndeed may 
not be the one subscribed.
So after the To field,  there's a CC/BCC thing, and then the address you're 
sending from, hwich is a button you can tap and then select from your 
addresses/identities you goton that phone.

I make this error on the pc,   and usually because I more normally click 
reply and it automatically replies from the addi that received it. So that's 
worth a look and try.

Hth, RobH.
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Gmail Account on iPhone4 is Rejecting Posts to the Group


I don't think, though I could be wrong, that the server rejects on the basis 
of whether your message comes from your phone or your pc. I know this is 
going to sound like asking the obvious, but are you using the same email 
address on your phone as on your pc and if not, is the email address on your 
phone subscribed to the list? Also, does the rejection notice indicate a 
reason for the rejection?

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 This post is being sent through my PC. When I attempted to post through 
 the
 phone, the email was rejected from the Viphone group server. I would like 
 to
 know where I need to trouble shoot to fix this issue, so I can post a
 response from my iPhone4 instead of the PC? I appreciate all of the
 suggestions on how to resolve this.

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RE: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Dulce Weisenborn
I didn't see it in the Apple Store. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrailleTouch
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille
on your touchscreen

Hi Søren,

The initial release of BrailleTouch is in English. However we hope to
support other languages in future updates. 

Thanks,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com

On Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:42:04 AM UTC-5, Søren Jensen wrote:

Hi.
I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english
going to be supported? I'm especially thinking about the danish characters.

Best regards:
Søren Jensen



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Nook account

2012-12-31 Thread Shane Clark
Hi,
Has anyone tried signing into the nook app? I juat downloaded it and am trying 
to register. I go to sign in, enter in my username and password, and it keeps 
saying invallid email, which I know is wrong. My email is right. Using a 4S 
with 6.01.

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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi all. I think one thing we all have to remember is that it costs money to 
develop these aps. is the price for the ap a bit steep? Yes, but, if it helps 
them make the changes you all are asking them to make in future releases... 
shouldn't we suport them so they can do that? As an avid braille suporter, I 
will buy this ap, and hope that my small contribution will help. I one $20 is a 
lot for an ap, but I look at it as suporting the developers in creating an ap 
that I think most of us have been waiting for  for awhile. 
As was stated in a previous email by the developer, we can try it out and if we 
don't like it, we don't have to purchase the add ons.
Just my .02 (smile).

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 $9.99 for each of the two updates, done in app.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:29 PM
 Subject: RE: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille 
 on your touchscreen
 
 
 Hi,
 Do you have prices for the various upgrades yet?
 I am a braille instructor and have been looking forward to when this would
 be released.
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 
  _
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrailleTouch
 Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on
 your touchscreen
 
 
 Greetings and Happy Holidays!
 
 My name is Caleb, and I'm one of the developers of a new iPhone app called
 BrailleTouch. BrailleTouch allows you to type using braille on your
 touchscreen, and is based on the standard six key braille keyboard. We are
 excited to announce that BrailleTouch will be on the App Store by the end of
 January! We hope that you will like BrailleTouch and find it useful. I'm
 happy to answer any questions you may have, and I've included some more
 information about the app below.
 
 With BrailleTouch, you can send text messages, emails, and tweets from the
 touchscreen braille keyboard. You can also copy text you type in braille to
 the clipboard and paste it into other apps on your iPhone. There is a free
 version of BrailleTouch, so you can try it before you buy it. The free
 version lets you type in braille and hear the text you entered. Many braille
 instructors have told us that they would like to use BrailleTouch as a
 teaching tool, which the free version will support. Additional features are
 available as In App Purchases. The Messaging Upgrade allows you to send text
 messages, emails, and tweets from the touchscreen braille keyboard. The
 Clipboard Upgrade allows you to copy text from the touchscreen braille
 keyboard and paste it into other apps on your iPhone.
 
 BrailleTouch is based on research conducted at Georgia Tech in Atlanta,
 Georgia, USA, where I am a graduate student. My colleagues and I tested the
 software with eleven volunteers who are blind. We found that people who knew
 the standard Perkins braille keyboard were able to master BrailleTouch
 within an hour of practice and type at an average of 23 words per minute
 using Grade 1 braille. We received such positive feedback that we were
 inspired to take this research out of the laboratory and release
 BrailleTouch to the public. We hope this software will provide a helpful
 alternative to the VoiceOver split tap keyboard, and that it will help
 improve the mobile computing experience for people in the blind community
 who use an iPhone.
 
 BrailleTouch is fully compatible with VoiceOver. It works on the iPhone 3GS
 through the iPhone 5, iPod touch models since the 3rd generation, and
 requires iOS 5.0 or a later operating system. BrailleTouch is only for the
 iPhone and iPod touch, and is not supported on the iPad. The first release
 is based on North American English Grade 1 Uncontracted Braille. You can
 choose to hear speech feedback for each character you type, each word you
 type, or both.
 
 More information about BrailleTouch is available on our website:
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 The website includes a User Guide and Frequently Asked Questions. You can
 also sign up for our email list, and we will notify you when we have an
 exact release date in January for the app.
 
 We are also on Twitter:
 https://twitter.com/brailletouch
 
 With the free version of BrailleTouch, you can try out the touchscreen
 braille keyboard and hear the text that you typed read back to you. The
 Messaging Upgrade allows you to send text messages, emails, and tweets, and
 costs US$9.99. The Clipboard Upgrade allows you to copy text from the
 braille keyboard to paste into other apps, and costs US$9.99. You must have
 the Messaging Upgrade first before you can get the Clipboard Upgrade.
 
 I am happy to answer any questions you may have. We are very excited about
 the upcoming release of BrailleTouch on 

Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Shane Clark
Hi,
I found a nice list of wrestling autobiographies that I'd like to download to 
my iPhone/iPad. I checked Audible and iTunes but no luck. Should I try iBooks?
Any other suggestions? Thanks. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi,

Quick panic here! I adore Daniel! for me, he is the best screen-reader I 
have ever used. So, please, if you do ask for another voice, please don't do it 
at the cost of Daniel for those of us who love him! sure, more choices would 
always be better, but I would hate to lose the Daniel voice.
Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Dec 2012, at 22:41, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Daniel irritates me too.  We best get writing to Apple Accessibility as Mary 
 states.
 
 Kawal.
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 10:14 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I, too, would like to get rid of Daniel and have Samantha back. But as i 
 live in Britain, I don't seem to be able to choose Samantha. I was 
 disappointed with this when it happened. I don't know what it is about 
 Daniel, but it irritates me. 
 
 Andrew
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to see that I get an HQ American voice so that I can ditch Daniel 
 completely if we get more than one HQ Voice on our IOS devices.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 Dec 2012, at 01:13 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 By Mary,. 
 
 Good thought and if it worked as you suggested, that would be great. 
 However it still changes languages for me and the only options in my 
 language rotor is Australian and British English. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 30/12/2012, at 11:38 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bret, can't you just  not have any languages other than English in your 
 language rotor to deal with the problem on ios? I have an android device 
 and ios devices, and the ability to read multiple languages in the same 
 document is simply not present in Android at this time. Plus, changing 
 from one language to another is much messier under Android than it is 
 with the language settings in ios. Apple did a really good job for those 
 of us who want to use more than one language.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: Nook account

2012-12-31 Thread Penny Reeder
Hi, I had a little trouble signing in, so I went to barnes and noble's
web site, chose the nook app page, and called the customer service
number that you will find there.  They were very helpful.

I love the Nook app.  I have read a book and subscribed to a magazine
I've always wanted to be able to read.

Good luck.
Penny

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 Hi,
 Has anyone tried signing into the nook app? I juat downloaded it and am
 trying to register. I go to sign in, enter in my username and password, and
 it keeps saying invallid email, which I know is wrong. My email is right.
 Using a 4S with 6.01.

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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's not coming out till late January, according to the original message in 
this thread.

HtH,
Teresa


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On Dec 31, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Dulce Weisenborn d...@lifedesigns-inc.com wrote:

 I didn't see it in the Apple Store. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrailleTouch
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille
 on your touchscreen
 
 Hi Søren,
 
 The initial release of BrailleTouch is in English. However we hope to
 support other languages in future updates. 
 
 Thanks,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com
 
 On Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:42:04 AM UTC-5, Søren Jensen wrote:
 
   Hi.
   I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english
 going to be supported? I'm especially thinking about the danish characters.
   
   Best regards:
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Re: automatic language switching in ios is brilliant

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten

Sandy, This is definitely about more, not fewer, voice choices. 
Mary

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Re: Nook account

2012-12-31 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
ccan you read the books in Braille that you purchase? or is it just text to 
speech?

~Sharonda

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I had a little trouble signing in, so I went to barnes and noble's
 web site, chose the nook app page, and called the customer service
 number that you will find there.  They were very helpful.
 
 I love the Nook app.  I have read a book and subscribed to a magazine
 I've always wanted to be able to read.
 
 Good luck.
 Penny
 
 On 12/31/12, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Has anyone tried signing into the nook app? I juat downloaded it and am
 trying to register. I go to sign in, enter in my username and password, and
 it keeps saying invallid email, which I know is wrong. My email is right.
 Using a 4S with 6.01.
 
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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
I'm looking forward to trying out this app.  I agree with what Jennifer 
Barr said wholeheartedly that it costs money to develop these apps so 
I'll try the free version and if I like it I plan on using my gift cards 
to buy the app.


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Re: Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can try Ibooks, or sign up for Nook at the Barnes and Noble website, which 
has a huge selection. Also, you can try Google Books.

HtH,
Teresa


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 I found a nice list of wrestling autobiographies that I'd like to download to 
 my iPhone/iPad. I checked Audible and iTunes but no luck. Should I try iBooks?
 Any other suggestions? Thanks. 
 
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Re: Nook account

2012-12-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, you can read in Braille with the Nook app. As with most Braille in book 
apps, you do have to switch pages manually.

Teresa


Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:

 ccan you read the books in Braille that you purchase? or is it just text to 
 speech?
 
 ~Sharonda
 
 Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I had a little trouble signing in, so I went to barnes and noble's
 web site, chose the nook app page, and called the customer service
 number that you will find there.  They were very helpful.
 
 I love the Nook app.  I have read a book and subscribed to a magazine
 I've always wanted to be able to read.
 
 Good luck.
 Penny
 
 On 12/31/12, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Has anyone tried signing into the nook app? I juat downloaded it and am
 trying to register. I go to sign in, enter in my username and password, and
 it keeps saying invallid email, which I know is wrong. My email is right.
 Using a 4S with 6.01.
 
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Re: Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
How do you read google books on the iPhone? Is there an app that's accessible? 

~Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can try Ibooks, or sign up for Nook at the Barnes and Noble website, 
 which has a huge selection. Also, you can try Google Books.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
 On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I found a nice list of wrestling autobiographies that I'd like to download 
 to my iPhone/iPad. I checked Audible and iTunes but no luck. Should I try 
 iBooks?
 Any other suggestions? Thanks. 
 
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Re: Safari with the iPhone

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This is one of the reasons I find myself using Google Chrome on my
iPhone more and more.

On 31/12/12 12:55, Shane Clark wrote:
 Hi Anthony,
 Its an apparebt bug in VO with the latest version of iOS. Its been this 
 way-since 6.0.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:36 PM, anthony cavigliano scorpionggguni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Went IM surfing the Internet on my iPhone and once I've read by Headens all 
 by form fields
 For some reason when I gets a particular link I want to listen to it moves 
 away from that link and navigates away
 Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto
your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can
look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation.
Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would
have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place.

I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless
network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can
usually be found on a sticker on the router itself.

On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote:
 All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and 
 the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. This includes 
 those provided by cable providers.
 
 RobH.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
 Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s
 
 
 Hi Tessa,
 
 Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
 Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
 change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
 requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
 find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
 your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
 password. For example, Netgear routers usually use admin as the user name
 and password as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
 the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change this. If you
 can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the router (there
 is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or something like
 that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
 also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
 use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.
 
 OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
 if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into Settings
 and Store and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
 delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
 buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. Of course if
 you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you should not
 enable this.
 
 If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
 give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
 under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
 it. You can google iPhone 4 resale values or something like to get an idea
 what they are going for.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Of Tessa
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Upgraded to 4s
 
 I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
 and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
 new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got transfered
 to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
 the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
 still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
 delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and deleting the
 ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
 purposes and haven't got through them yet.
 Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
 deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
 devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
 phone yet.
 I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
 wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
 there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
 security.
 Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
 Tessa
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Re: New member and introduction

2012-12-31 Thread heather albright
Hello, well if your fiancee  has an iphone, that would be good!  The first 
thing I would suggest, is to get to voice over practice to learn the 
gestures!  The apple store should set it up, if you ask!  They will set up 
your apple ID, vo, and what ever else you need to set up!  If you have 
google account, they can set it up to, so you can get mail on the phone! 
When you get home after practicing gestures, you can figure out how to put 
apps in to folders to clear up the home page!  They have a couple of 
podcasts on the iphone on the blind geek zone and AppleVis.  Nbp has a book, 
getting started with the iphone that can help as well!  The best thing is to 
give yourself time to become use to the phone, not to become frustrated. 
Heather 


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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Harris
Sorry, no, it can only flipped upside down. original and interpoint is too 
far back for anyone to want to try it.  Glad someone else remembers too, 
mind.

Dot 1 would be first finger left hand,   or flipped,  3rd finger left hand; 
that's it,   that's enough!

RobH.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille 
on your touchscreen


Hello,

If I understand it right. The phone is held to provide a more like
stainsby / shorthand machine formation rather than a perkins? As with
the stainsby, could the keys be reversed? For those used to writing
braille on a frame or the standard stainsby? i.e. The letter a dot 1
generated by  the index finger of the right or left hand? Or is the
orientation dots 1  4 are generated by the third finger of each hand?

What version of grade 1 is the app going to use? Is it computer braille
thus numbers are lower case letters? Or do you need to use the number
sign? Is the full stop 2  5 6 or 4 6? Or will this be switchable upon
release?

Thanks.

Gena



On 30/12/2012 06:10, BrailleTouch wrote:
 Hi Richard,

 Thanks for your post. There is a free version of BrailleTouch. We hope 
 this
 will be useful for braille instructors, as well as for people who want to
 try the app out. You do not have to buy an upgrade to use it with your
 students.

 The free version goes beyond the research prototype we developed at 
 Georgia
 Tech, which many braille instructors contacted us about. It will read back
 characters, words, or both as you type. It will also speak the full
 sentence that you typed in braille. I hope you will find this useful with
 your students.

 Best,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com/


 On Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:29:30 PM UTC-5, Richard Turner wrote:

   Hi,
 Do you have prices for the various upgrades yet?
 I am a braille instructor and have been looking forward to when this 
 would
 be released.

 Thanks,
 Richard





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Establishing a location in 4wquare

2012-12-31 Thread Andy Baracco
I see that people have established their own locations in 4square. How do you 
do this?

Andy

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Help with new motorola hx550 bluetooth earphone

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I bought the motorola hx550 because it is supposed to have good battery life 
and work with siri. I got it paired successfully with two phones and know how 
to switch between the phones. I made a call and was told I sounded fine. But I 
have a couple of other questions if anybody else has this.

1. You can wear this phone three different ways: in ear without loop, on ear, 
and in ear with loop gells (I think I got that right). But I'm having a little 
trouble figuring out some of these items and figuring out how to put them on. 
For now I have it in my ear with no loops or gels. If naybody can sort me 
through the items tat come in the box and what to do with them, I'd appreciate 
it if you would give it a try.
2. When I push the talk button , siri appears to come on but doesn't go on to 
respond usually. Or I get to the listen button and press it and talk and 
nothing happens. I can exit okay. Any tips? At one point I saw something that 
gve me two choices: hx550 or iPhone; I'm not sure wht I chose but I hope I can 
get back to that coice if I have to. One thing I do like: if I hold in the 
button, it redials the previous number; I've been wanting a redial.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Upgraded to 4s

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Barry
If it's on a sticker and it's 8 digits it is WPS which is a major 
security vulnerability as it is easily  hacked.

Disable it from within your router and just use a proper WPA2 key.
Of course some routers won't let you turn it off and others, Linksys, 
will tell you it's off when it is not.


At 05:01 PM 12/31/2012, you wrote:

Sieghard is referring to the user ID and password you use to log onto
your router, and he's correct, if you haven't changed this then you can
look up the defaults on line or n your router's documentation.
Obviously, not changing this is a security concern, but someone would
have to already be on your network to even try to log in in the first place.

I think you're referring to the WPA key used to get on to the wireless
network, where you are correct, this is unique to the router and can
usually be found on a sticker on the router itself.

On 31/12/12 11:29, Rob Harris wrote:
 All modern routers we've had, have a label stuck to the back or bottom and
 the password is unique;  or their security would be worthless. 
This includes

 those provided by cable providers.

 RobH.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08 PM
 Subject: RE: Upgraded to 4s


 Hi Tessa,

 Starting at the end of your post, the WiFi password cannot be viewed.
 Depending on which router they have, you can see the WiFi password and
 change it if you know how to log on to the router, but that of course
 requires a password as well. If your parents never changed it, then you can
 find out what the default router password is by doing a Google search for
 your brand/model of router, often a particular brand uses the same default
 password. For example, Netgear routers usually use admin as the user name
 and password as the password. Of course this is supposed to be changed by
 the user, but you'd be surprised how many users never do change 
this. If you
 can't log on to the router you could do a factory reset of the 
router (there
 is usually a Pinhole in the back and you poke a paper clip or 
something like

 that into it). Of course this would wipe out any custom settings. You will
 also need the routers Ip address, once again, this is brand specific. Many
 use 192.168.0.1, some use 192.168.1.1 (Netgear) and there maybe others.

 OK, now as far as your apps are concerned, you can keep your phones in sync
 if you use the same Apple Id on both phones and if you go into Settings
 and Store and tell both phones to automatically sync apps then if you
 delete an app on one phone it will also delete from the other phone, if you
 buy an app on one phone it will also appear on the other phone. 
Of course if
 you want to have separate apps, music and so on on each phone you 
should not

 enable this.

 If your iPhone 4 is still in good condition you could ask your provider to
 give you unlock instructions which they should do if the phone is no longer
 under contract. Then you can unlock it which would allow you to easily sell
 it. You can google iPhone 4 resale values or something like to 
get an idea

 what they are going for.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tessa
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Upgraded to 4s

 I recently got a 4s but still have my 4. They just took the card from the 4
 and put it in the 4s. I had backed up my old phone and then hooked up the
 new to itunes and it eventually copied  my apps and such over.
 1 I had entered several contacts on the old phone which never got 
transfered

 to the new, someone would call me and then I'd put their name and number in
 the contact list. Why didn't these get copied over?
 2 My apps on the old phone are much more organized than on the new. I can
 still use the old one and sometimes try out some of my old apps and then
 delte them. I've also been trying out apps on the new phone and 
deleting the

 ones  that aren't accessible. I downloaded a whole bunch just for testing
 purposes and haven't got through them yet.
 Can I delete apps from the old or the new phone and have the same apps
 deleted from the other phone. Yes it does seem a bit senseless to have two
 devices doing the same thing but I haven't decided what to do with the old
 phone yet.
 I do have wireless here at home and my old phone can connect to my mom's
 wireless though they don't know their password so my new one can't LOL. Is
 there a way to see the password on my old phone or is that hidden for
 security.
 Thanks for any thoughts on the issues
 Tessa
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Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on your touchscreen

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, according to the user guide, it appears to me that the default layout 
will be just like a Perkins brailler. You hold the phone in landscape mode with 
the screen away from you. Then your left index finger will be dot 1, left 
middle dot 2, and the finger next to your pinky will be dot 3. The right hand 
would be the same: dot 4 is your right index finger; dot 5 is your right middle 
finger; dot 6 is the finger next to your right pinky. This would be exactly 
like a Perkins braille writer. Flipping dots 1 and 3 and flipping dots 4 and 6, 
if I'm picturing this crrectly, would put dots 1 and 4 under your fingers next 
to your pinkys. So in the flipped setting, a c would be at the two far ends of 
your two-hand position while in the normal default setting the letter c would 
be the two center points of your two-hand position. The default setting should 
be immediately comfortable for those of us who use a Perkins brailler; if I am 
picturing this correctly, I would find the flipped keyboard confusing but I 
imagine that depends on what you use for writing.
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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 31, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Georgina Joyce r...@o2.co.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 If I understand it right. The phone is held to provide a more like stainsby / 
 shorthand machine formation rather than a perkins? As with the stainsby, 
 could the keys be reversed? For those used to writing braille on a frame or 
 the standard stainsby? i.e. The letter a dot 1 generated by  the index 
 finger of the right or left hand? Or is the orientation dots 1  4 are 
 generated by the third finger of each hand?
 
 What version of grade 1 is the app going to use? Is it computer braille thus 
 numbers are lower case letters? Or do you need to use the number sign? Is the 
 full stop 2  5 6 or 4 6? Or will this be switchable upon release?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gena
 
 
 
 On 30/12/2012 06:10, BrailleTouch wrote:
 Hi Richard,
 
 Thanks for your post. There is a free version of BrailleTouch. We hope this
 will be useful for braille instructors, as well as for people who want to
 try the app out. You do not have to buy an upgrade to use it with your
 students.
 
 The free version goes beyond the research prototype we developed at Georgia
 Tech, which many braille instructors contacted us about. It will read back
 characters, words, or both as you type. It will also speak the full
 sentence that you typed in braille. I hope you will find this useful with
 your students.
 
 Best,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 
 On Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:29:30 PM UTC-5, Richard Turner wrote:
 
  Hi,
 Do you have prices for the various upgrades yet?
 I am a braille instructor and have been looking forward to when this would
 be released.
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The Play Books app.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you read google books on the iPhone? Is there an app that's 
 accessible? 
 
 ~Sharonda 
 
 Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You can try Ibooks, or sign up for Nook at the Barnes and Noble website, 
 which has a huge selection. Also, you can try Google Books.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
 On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I found a nice list of wrestling autobiographies that I'd like to download 
 to my iPhone/iPad. I checked Audible and iTunes but no luck. Should I try 
 iBooks?
 Any other suggestions? Thanks. 
 
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Re: Safari with the iPhone

2012-12-31 Thread David Chittenden
I use a three finger vertical swipe to bring the part of the webpage on to the 
visible display. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 01/01/2013, at 10:55, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is one of the reasons I find myself using Google Chrome on my
 iPhone more and more.
 
 On 31/12/12 12:55, Shane Clark wrote:
 Hi Anthony,
 Its an apparebt bug in VO with the latest version of iOS. Its been this 
 way-since 6.0.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:36 PM, anthony cavigliano 
 scorpionggguni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Went IM surfing the Internet on my iPhone and once I've read by Headens all 
 by form fields
 For some reason when I gets a particular link I want to listen to it moves 
 away from that link and navigates away
 Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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Re: New member and introduction

2012-12-31 Thread Pablo Morales

I suggest start with voice over.

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From: Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com

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Subject: New member and introduction



Hi all,

I just joined this list, so I'm a new member. My name is Lori and I live 
in Ohio. This afternoon I will be going out with my fiancee to purchase my 
new Iphone 5. I did get to see the Iphone 4 and 5 briefly and I was 
impressed with what I saw.


So with me going to be a new I phone user what things do I need to know 
about the Iphone? When I purchase my I phone 5 will there be some apps 
already on the phone or will I need to downloadthe apps I want? And where 
do I download the apps I want? I know I want to get the weather app and 
the money identifier app. Just to name a few.


Also what all does the I phone do? I know it has GPS on it and I can 
download music and do email on it amung other things Am I right? Anything 
you all can tell me about the I phone 5 would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
Wow this is the first I've heard of google books being accessible. I love 
reading, particularly in Braille. ~Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Dec 31, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Play Books app.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How do you read google books on the iPhone? Is there an app that's 
 accessible? 
 
 ~Sharonda 
 
 Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 
 
 On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You can try Ibooks, or sign up for Nook at the Barnes and Noble website, 
 which has a huge selection. Also, you can try Google Books.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
 On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Shane Clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I found a nice list of wrestling autobiographies that I'd like to download 
 to my iPhone/iPad. I checked Audible and iTunes but no luck. Should I try 
 iBooks?
 Any other suggestions? Thanks. 
 
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Re: Looking for books

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten

When looking at google books, be careful to select only those which have text 
as a possibility, not those which say scanned pages only, as those are images 
and they don't work for us.

Mary

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Re: Nook account

2012-12-31 Thread Mary Otten
Teresa, I thought you were suppose to be able to read across page boundaries 
now with ios6. Is that not correct?

Mary

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