Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go

2013-04-04 Thread Arnold Schmidt
The version of your IOS 5 book that I have says it is daisy audio, which is 
read by their synthesizer.  I do not know if it has text in it, or not. 
Before I got my phone, I played it on my NLS player. When I tried to get 
Read To Go to play it, I know it was in Read To Go, it just didn't show up 
in the list at all.  No worry.  When I buy your new book, if it won't work 
in Read To Go either, I always can use my NLS player.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go


Hi Arnold,

I don't have that book, but I do have an earlier book produced by NBP in 
DAISY format. I zipped it and used iTunes file sharing to add it to Read2Go. 
It showed up in the list, and I was able to read the text with VoiceOver and 
navigate to various sections. Sometimes I was able to play the audio, and 
sometimes nothing happened when I pressed the Play button. I don't know why 
that was. But at least the text was readable.


HTH,
Anna



On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

After listening to the latest Tech Doctor podcast, I am considering 
purchasing Anna Dresner's IOS 6 book.  She said that I can read the daisy 
version with Read To Go.  I already have the IOS 5 book, as a daisy audio 
book, read by their synthesizer, so I decided to load it into Read To Go, 
via iTunes, to see if it would read it.  Even after switching  off the 
read to go voice as a reading option, it did not show up in my list of 
books to read, on my phone, although it did show up in the list of books I 
had transferred via iTunes, on my pc.  I know it was on my phone, the 
total number of books increased by one, it just didn't show up in the 
list.I transferred it as a zip file, and I know Read To Go unzipped it, 
because it was called daisy in the transfer list on my pc.  I have 
temporarily deleted it, via iTunes.  Any ideas what I did wrong?


Thanks for any information.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread David Chittenden
On the bottom of the keyboard left of the space bar, for any Apple keyboard, 
the buttons are function, control, option, command, space bar. Press and hold 
control and option to tell VO that any other key(s) at the same time gives VO 
commands. The commands are the same as on the Mac.

If your keyboard is Windows rather than Mac, the keys are probably function, 
control, windows, alt, space bar. In this case, I believe Apple maps windows to 
command and alt to option. If this is correct and you have a Windows keyboard, 
the VO keys would be control and alt.

So, the home button is VO h, double-tap is VO space, launching keyboard help is 
VO k, and so forth.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/04/2013, at 18:24, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Also, what is this control option?  I'm not understanding here, do you mean 
 a function key of sorts?  I'm assuming that this is what you mean but if not, 
 maybe that's why I'm not getting my bt keyboard to work...
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth TabletKeyboard
 
 When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control 
 option (VO) key combination to work. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Everyone has their preference.  Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, 
 I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would 
 still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons.
 Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed.
 Now that I know, I will *use what's available.**
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
 
 Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note
 taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to 
 develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available.
 
 As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you 
 want. :-)
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Understandable.  I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol.
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
 
 When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into 
 edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer 
 directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over 
 working through a less direct keyboardinterface.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there 
 has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Here are the ones I've been saving.
  
 iOS Keyboard shortcut commands
  
 VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option
  
 General navigation
  
  Keys  Action
  VO plus left or right  Select previous or next item
  VO plus up or down  Performs or move to the selected rotor option
  VO plus Space  Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
  VO plus H  Go to home screen
  VO plus H 2 times  Open/close multitask pane
  Escape  Go back, cancel, closepop-up
  Cmd plus Tab  Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous
  VO plus A  Read all from first object in selected area
  VO plus B  Read all from selected item
  VO plus M  Move to status bar
  VO plus I  Open Item Chooser for current area
  VO plus F  Search and go to match with Enter
  VO plus G  Next search match, hold Shift for previous
  
 Handling VoiceOver
  
  Keys  Action
  Control  Pause/resume speech
  VO plus S  Toggle speech off/on
  VO plus Shift plus S  Toggle Screen Curtain on/off
  VO plus Cmd plus up or down  Adjust the selected speech rotor option
  VO plus Cmd plus left or right  Change the speech rotor setting
  VO plus / (slash)  Add label to selected item
  VO plus K  Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit
  
 Quick Nav Commands
  
 Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right 
 keys at the same time
  
 Keys  Action
  up plus down  Activate the selected item. (open app, press   
  button)
  left or right  Selects the previous or next item
  up or 

Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread Bill Gallik
This thread causes me to ponder this thought; how many of you have been 
listening to a radio program, TV program or recording of some sort and find 
yourself trying to hit the BACK button? I sure have, SHISH!   ;-)


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Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread David Chittenden
I was not clear. There is a major difference between typing on the keyboard and 
using the keyboard for navigation.

Sighted people overwhelmingly prefer navigating using the touch-screen first, 
the mouse second, and the keyboard last. This has nothing to do with typing. 
The fact is, on computers with mouse or touchpad, sighted people will usually 
move the pointer to where they need to type with the mouse, trackpad, or 
directly on the display. They then type on the keyboard. They then use the 
touchpad, mouse, or display to move the pointer to the next field, or ok, or 
next button, or whatever the next task is. A few fast typists, who were trained 
more than 18 years ago, will default to pressing tab, arrow keys, and enter, 
but the majority to vast majority prefer the direct interaction with the 
onscreen object using the more direct interface of touch-screen, mouse, or 
touchpad (in that order according to a fair number of studies I have read that 
took place over the past ten years.

I probably misread an earlier post. I thought the person asked about using 
navigation with the keyboard when VO is turned off. My understanding is VO must 
be on for keyboard navigation to function. The fact is, the majority of sighted 
users prefer it that way.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 04/04/2013, at 14:54, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/03/2013 08:16 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
 My comments are mainly targeted, in this case, at the thought that sighted 
 users of iPhone would rather use keyboard navigation. Save for a very few 
 outlyers, this assertion is constantly proven incorrect.
 
 I guess I didn't see that in this thread until you or someone else brought it 
 up. It just seemed like a question from someone who was already using a 
 bluetooth keyboard and wanted to do some navigation without using the touch 
 screen. I'm not saying people don't want to use the touch screen, but I think 
 people who want to use a keyboard make up more than just a very few outliers. 
 I doubt there would be as many makers of bluetooth keyboards as there are if 
 the market was as small as you imply.
 
 As for programming and AV, object-oriented programming is primarily mouse 
 oriented. Same with high-end AV editing and production.
 
 I'm not sure why you say that object oriented programming is mostly mouse 
 oriented. Sure there are some IDE's that use the mouse to establish 
 relationships between objects, but even with these IDE's there's still quite 
 a bit of typing involved, such as when you're writing a new object or method. 
 There are also quite a few programmers doing object oriented programming 
 without such IDE's as well as quite a bit of programming out there being done 
 that isn't object oriented. I'm also not sure how being mouse oriented 
 changes the discussion. I still see video editors using a 
 monitor/keyboard/mouse combination on their desktop system before doing this 
 on a touch screen only device.
 
 Again, I'm not saying touch screens aren't becoming more and more popular and 
 don't make a lot of sense for a lot of tasks. I'm just saying there's still a 
 place, which I think is larger than you imply, for keyboards and input/output 
 technologies other than the touch screen. Because of this, I don't think 
 there's anything wrong with someone asking for a feature related to keyboard 
 access.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I can't disagree with anything you're saying, and I think you're 
 right when it comes to information consumption and inputs of small amounts 
 of information, but I don't see information and content generation going 
 the way of the tuch screen any time soon. I can't point to specific 
 studies, but I assume something must be driving companies like Microsoft, 
 Canonical, Motorola and Asus to develop converged devices which give you 
 the tablet based touch screen interface when you're mobile and a 
 monitor/keyboard centric interface when you're at your desk. Maybe this is 
 just a set of transitional products, but I just don't ever see programmers, 
 writers, video editors, publishers and so on doing their work exclusively 
 on a touch screen. Like I said, I have read the thread below, and I'm not 
 sure I follow all of it, but I don't see where the person who bought the 
 bluetooth keyboard is just using it when they're mobile.
 
 On 04/03/2013 05:48 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
 Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous 
 times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes 
 everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse 
 venues to mobile information communication technology of various types and 
 brands.
 
 When the interface is end-user 

Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread RobH!
'Fraid so,  amazing what we start to take for granted after a while.  Nobody 
found the rewind button on life itself yet.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist


This thread causes me to ponder this thought; how many of you have been
listening to a radio program, TV program or recording of some sort and find
yourself trying to hit the BACK button? I sure have, SHISH!   ;-)

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E-Mail: wfgal...@charter.net
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List for braille users of iOS devices -- how to subscribe

2013-04-04 Thread Kimber Gardner
A while ago I asked if there was interest in a group for braille users
of iOS devices. It turns out there is such a group called applebraille
on google groups. If you would like to subscribe, send a blank email
to:

applebraille+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Hope to see you there.

Kimber

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Re: AtBat subscription issue

2013-04-04 Thread Les Kriegler
There is, but when I chose that option, I was told I had no purchases on this 
device which is not the case, so not certain what that message means.

Les
On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You need to connect your at bat subscription to your mlb.com account. If you 
 go into the more tab in the app, there should be an option to do that.
 
 On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the link I provided earlier. It takes you directly to the games for the 
 current date and player too. I skipped Gameday audio last year and just 
 opted for the i-device subscription, but when I bought the subscription for 
 this year, I had no problems logging into gameday audio after not having 
 done so since September 2011 and listen to games on my pc. I had previously 
 been a Gameday subscriber since it first started being offered in 2001 or 
 2002 I can’t remember. Other then that, I don’t know what to tell you.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Paul Ferrara
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: AtBat subscription issue
  
 The app does say that you can listen on the computer; however, when I log 
 into my MLB.com account, it says I have no subscriptions and that I have to 
 go to mlb.tv to subscribe.
 I did things in this order—created the MLB.com account, bought the AtBat 
 subscription on the phone, verified my email with MLB.com, loged into 
 MLB.com and got the message that there were no active subscriptions.
 Guy from MLB said it shows I have the AtBat subscription but to listen on 
 the computer requires gameday audio.
 Could someone provide a description of what to try next?
  
 Paul
  
 From: Richard Turner
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: AtBat subscription issue
  
 If you read the What’s New section of the last couple updates, buying At Bat 
 on the iOS devices also gives you the ability to listen on the computer as 
 well; Mac or PC.
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: AtBat subscription issue
  
 at bat is only for the IoS devices
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Ferrara
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:02 PM
 Subject: AtBat subscription issue
  
 I bought the AtBat subscription thinking from the app’s update that it would 
 let you listen to games on the computer also; the guy on the phone says not. 
 Anyone know for sure?
  
 Thanks.
  
 Paul
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iBlindTech 46 - Big Browser

2013-04-04 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi there all

In this episode of the iBlindTech Democast I interview Ryan Honey from the 
Braille Institute of America about their newest app, Big Browser 

It is designed for low vision users of the iPad. We also discuss some updates 
to the BIA's other apps. Check out the episode at the below link or subscribe 
in iTunes.  

http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-046-BigBrowser.mp3

Thanks 


Garth 

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Follow me on twitter @iBlindTech or @iBlindTechDemo for just the podcast info.

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Re: google maps not talking

2013-04-04 Thread Craig Werner
Jim, it's been a long while since I have used Google Maps, but I
believe you have to make sure that the driving directions option is
checked before the app will talk.  I wish I could explain the
disappearance of the Action Results button.  I have found that
button essential for speech.  Like David, I have had accessibility
issues with Google Maps.  I switched to MapQuest and find it generally
works well.  The buttons are labeled with understandable indicators.
MotionX and Navigon also get high marks for accessibility.

Craig

On 4/3/13, Jim Shaffer jjs78...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used to be able to use google maps while in our car to speak the
 directions as we drove.  I am no longer able to do that.

 As I remember I clicked on a button labeled something like Actions for
 result, and it would start speaking.  That button no longer exists.  Has
 there been an interface change brought about by an update or something?
 Has anyone else seen this, and found a way to get google maps talking
 again?

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Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Carol Pearson
 

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Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
Yep, that sort of stuff happens.  Like the time I'd been working on my 
BrailleNote all day, then went to my office, sat down at my work PC and 
found myself trying to type commands in Braille on the QWERTY keyboard. 
That's not gonna work so well.

Tom

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:28 PM
Subject: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist



I was talking to my cousin on my cordless phone and as I went to hang up I
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Papasangre and wear your headphones.

2013-04-04 Thread Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban)

Hi all.
I was able to play the first round of the new Papasangre app, after that I got a screen with continue button something says 
Entrance of in somwhere and play again.

I tapped on continue button and the app presents a wide empty screen telling: Wear 
your headphones.
I do have the headphones on. There were no way to get rid of it: the screen was just empty. I also treid to unplug and plug in again 
the headphones but nothing change.

Someone found him or herselve in this shoose?

Gabriel. 


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Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together 
again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I 
needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded 
corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person 
to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult.

I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little 
different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will 
recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a 
blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when 
you will have to fold it again.

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list 
 both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a 
 different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more success! 
 Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in it is the 
 lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable should be 
 sticking out from the far left corner.
 
 Fingers crossed for you,
 Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
 
 Krister,
 
I don't think I can improve on David's excellent description, but if I 
 add one of my own, between us all, we might get you assembled! Indeed, if 
 you could find someone to help assemble, just for the first time, it would 
 be very useful to see how the finished thing fits together. However, if this 
 is difficult for you to arrange, then you must keep coming back to the list 
 and, eventually, we will sort it! So don't give up yet.
 
My problem is that I can't remember exactly how the SSP looked when it 
 first arrived, so I hope I don't confuse you further!!
 
 1. With the folded SSP flat on the table in front of you, there should be a 
 short piece of cable protruding from the furthest, right-hand corner.
 
 2. If you feel for a narrow flap, this runs along the length of the SSP, but 
 is only about 3 inches (say 7 cm) across, lift this flap away from you so 
 that it and the larger flap it is part of, opens out toward the back of the 
 SSP and is laying flat on the table toward the back of the SSP.
 3. Now lift the next flap you find and open it out to your left and lay it 
 flat on the table, it will stick out to the left of the SSP.
 4. Now take the last flap, which will open up and over to your right. This 
 is a double flap, so it will open out twice and is twice the lengther of the 
 flap that you have alrready opened out to your left.
 5. You should now have a shape in front of you with the central rectangular 
 base. With a flap opened to the left of it. You should have another flap 
 opened out to the right and this one is twice the length of the one on the 
 left, because half of this longer flap is going to be the top of your SSP. 
 and in the centre of the second part of this long flap is the hole for the 
 camera to see through. Lastly, there should be a flap at the back of the 
 central base which is opened out away from you and which has a secondary, 
 smaller flap as part of it.
 
 5. Lift the left hand flap so that is is vertical and hold it there with 
 your left hand.
 6. Now lift the flap on the right, taking hold of it toward its furthest end 
 and lift it so that the first part is roughly vertical and the second flap 
 folds toward the flap you are holding with your left hand. Thus forming a 
 top to your box.
 7. Using both hands, fold  the little flap at the end of this top piece over 
 the top edge of the left hand flap. There are magnets in this part of the 
 top and they will be attracted to the magnets which are also toward the top 
 of the left hand flap. I find I might have to slide the two together a 
 little until I can feel that they have found each other, these magnets. 
 Also, the cable should now be poking out at the top left of your wobbly box!
 8. you should now have a wobbly construction with no back and no front and 
 this is when we will start to strengthen it!
 Running vertically up the front of the two sides which are now standing up, 
 you should find two triangles, they are long and attached to the sides of 
 the box sides that are standing up. Bend these gently so that they form the 
 beginning of a sort of frame to the front of your box and then bend the flap 
 that you will find is now protruding from the top/lid of the box. This flap, 
 when bent down over the two triangle flaps will stay in place once the 
 magnets find each other. 
 So now we have just the back to deal with.
 8. Lift the back flap up,keeping 

RE: Ways to read books

2013-04-04 Thread Rose Combs
I appreciate the help, book is now downloading.  I should have figured it
out but, I am not a frequent flyer with iBooks,, most of what I have from
there are iPhone manuals


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ways to read books

Oops, I was a bit hasty there. Go to the IBooks store, and then to
purchases. You should see your book listed there, and a download button.
This way you won't be charged.

Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 My problem is slightly different, I have a book I purchased last summer
 before I gave my 4 to my husband, it shows up in books in iTunes 11 but
when
 I go to sync I don't have an option to sync books, I'd like to get this
back
 on my phone as it is an iBook and not accessible otherwise, will I have to
 purchase it again to get it there?  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tarapprakash
 Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:05 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Ways to read books
 
 So what app you r using to read it. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I just purchased the book on Google Play. I was able to read the Preface
 without any problem. If I run into any issues, I will let the group know.
I
 really appreciate the group for giving me all my options. I signed up for
 Kobo today. I will be reading furiously
 
 Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes
 
 On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 PlayBooks by Google should work. At least, comments on AppleVis suggest
 that it should. And Google itself put VoiceOver improvements, or something
 like that, in it's app description.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I just checked Kobo. They don't seem to have it. I saw it at Google 
 books, but can we use the iPhone to read that? It's an older book; I 
 think that's why it's so hard to find.
 
 Sharonda
 
 On 3/30/13, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Sharonda,
 
 Another place you could try is Kobo:
 www.kobobooks.com
 
 The Kobo app is accessible as long as it's set up correctly with 
 page transition style set to Scrolling.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 30 Mar 2013, at 15:04, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have a pretty pressing question--at least to me it is *smile* I 
 have been given a book recommendation. I didn't find it in the 
 iBookstore. I did find it at Barnes and Noble, however, it didn't 
 say it was a Nook Book. I would really love to read this on my
iPhone.
 What other ideas and places can you give me to look? I know these 
 things have been discussed before, but I didn't pay as much 
 attention to them. Thank you all for your help.
 
 Sharonda
 
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MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

2013-04-04 Thread David Gross
I appreciate all the suggestions and help offered on yesterday's post.
Turns out a call from mlb tech support said because I chose the
Pirates as my favorite team, the team page was causing the voice over
issue. If I had chosen any of the other 29 teams nothing would have
gone wrong. Everyone have a good MLB season.

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Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because 
the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at 
least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you 
can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you 
can't get everything now can you?:-)
/Krister

4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:

 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them 
 together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it 
 now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps 
 are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a 
 sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little 
 different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will 
 recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a 
 blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when 
 you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the 
 list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both 
 using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more 
 success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in 
 it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable 
 should be sticking out from the far left corner.
 
 Fingers crossed for you,
 Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
 
 Krister,
 
I don't think I can improve on David's excellent description, but if I 
 add one of my own, between us all, we might get you assembled! Indeed, if 
 you could find someone to help assemble, just for the first time, it would 
 be very useful to see how the finished thing fits together. However, if 
 this is difficult for you to arrange, then you must keep coming back to the 
 list and, eventually, we will sort it! So don't give up yet.
 
My problem is that I can't remember exactly how the SSP looked when it 
 first arrived, so I hope I don't confuse you further!!
 
 1. With the folded SSP flat on the table in front of you, there should be a 
 short piece of cable protruding from the furthest, right-hand corner.
 
 2. If you feel for a narrow flap, this runs along the length of the SSP, 
 but is only about 3 inches (say 7 cm) across, lift this flap away from you 
 so that it and the larger flap it is part of, opens out toward the back of 
 the SSP and is laying flat on the table toward the back of the SSP.
 3. Now lift the next flap you find and open it out to your left and lay it 
 flat on the table, it will stick out to the left of the SSP.
 4. Now take the last flap, which will open up and over to your right. This 
 is a double flap, so it will open out twice and is twice the lengther of 
 the flap that you have alrready opened out to your left.
 5. You should now have a shape in front of you with the central rectangular 
 base. With a flap opened to the left of it. You should have another flap 
 opened out to the right and this one is twice the length of the one on the 
 left, because half of this longer flap is going to be the top of your SSP. 
 and in the centre of the second part of this long flap is the hole for the 
 camera to see through. Lastly, there should be a flap at the back of the 
 central base which is opened out away from you and which has a secondary, 
 smaller flap as part of it.
 
 5. Lift the left hand flap so that is is vertical and hold it there with 
 your left hand.
 6. Now lift the flap on the right, taking hold of it toward its furthest 
 end and lift it so that the first part is roughly vertical and the second 
 flap folds toward the flap you are holding with your left hand. Thus 
 forming a top to your box.
 7. Using both hands, fold  the little flap at the end of this top piece 
 over the top edge of the left hand flap. There are magnets in this part of 
 the top and they will be attracted to the magnets which are also toward the 
 top of the left hand flap. I find I might have to slide the two together a 
 little until I can feel that they have found each other, these magnets. 
 Also, the cable should now be poking out at the top left of your wobbly box!
 8. you should now have a wobbly construction with no back and no front and 
 this is when we will start to strengthen it!
 Running vertically up the front of the two sides which are now standing up, 
 you should find two 

Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread Robert Doc Wright
So far I havent done any swiping or trying to talk to siri on that phone 
yet.
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist


Ha!!! I almost fell out of my chair. That's classic. Thanks for the laugh; I 
needed it. :)

Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I was talking to my cousin on my cordless phone and as I went to hang up I
 found myself doing a 2 finger double tap.to hang up the call.
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Jennie Facer
The home key on the Logitech model 810 is the fourth in from the right top.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi Ginny,
 Yes this helps, and solves my problem for the most part!  Thank you so much 
 for your specific instructions!
 I can't figure out how to activate the home screen yet, so if you have any 
 suggestions, feel free to pass them along!
 Kindly,
 Kayla K
 - Original Message -
 From: Jennie Facer
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard
 
 
 I have the Logitech keyboard, an I press both the up arrow and down arrow 
 together and I can activate the home screen icons.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Jenn 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I'm just curious before I buy it, is there a  way to access and double 
 tap the icons on the iPhone 4S home screen with the  amazon basic?
 If so, how?  I would like to know before I  spend any more money on 
 something which really doesn't work...
 If not, this is a feature which I really need to be able to access from my 
 bt keyboard.  Is there one that I can buy that has the double tapping 
 capability directly from the bt keyboard?
 The Logitech that I have allows me to type just fine, but as far as opening 
 any icons on the home screen, not at all.  Kind of pointless to me...  I've 
 tried function, options, control, and I've even tried calling logitech with 
 no luck...  The arrows do cycle through the icons, but I can't open them at 
 all...
 Thanks much for any assistance!
 Kayla K
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Re: AtBat subscription issue

2013-04-04 Thread Paul Ferrara
Thank you; I had no idea, but I’ll definitely go in there and connect them. The 
MLB rep said nothing about it.

Paul

From: Daniel Miller 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: AtBat subscription issue

Hi, 

You need to connect your at bat subscription to your mlb.com account. If you go 
into the more tab in the app, there should be an option to do that.

On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:


  Try the link I provided earlier. It takes you directly to the games for the 
current date and player too. I skipped Gameday audio last year and just opted 
for the i-device subscription, but when I bought the subscription for this 
year, I had no problems logging into gameday audio after not having done so 
since September 2011 and listen to games on my pc. I had previously been a 
Gameday subscriber since it first started being offered in 2001 or 2002 I 
can’t remember. Other then that, I don’t know what to tell you.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Ferrara
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AtBat subscription issue
   
  The app does say that you can listen on the computer; however, when I log 
into my MLB.com account, it says I have no subscriptions and that I have to go 
to mlb.tv to subscribe.
  I did things in this order—created the MLB.com account, bought the AtBat 
subscription on the phone, verified my email with MLB.com, loged into MLB.com 
and got the message that there were no active subscriptions.
  Guy from MLB said it shows I have the AtBat subscription but to listen on the 
computer requires gameday audio.
  Could someone provide a description of what to try next?
   
  Paul
   
  From: Richard Turner
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:43 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: AtBat subscription issue
   
  If you read the What’s New section of the last couple updates, buying At Bat 
on the iOS devices also gives you the ability to listen on the computer as 
well; Mac or PC.
   
   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:33 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AtBat subscription issue
   
  at bat is only for the IoS devices
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
- Original Message -
From: Paul Ferrara
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:02 PM
Subject: AtBat subscription issue
 
I bought the AtBat subscription thinking from the app’s update that it 
would let you listen to games on the computer also; the guy on the phone says 
not. Anyone know for sure?
 
Thanks.
 
Paul
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Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Krister,
I had the same problem, and I have some sight. what I was missing is
that on each side, there two flaps that need to be folded in before it
is assembled.

When you unfold the stand scan and have it laying flat on a table, you
will have five rectangles, for going across and one above. The light
strip should be all the way to the

On Mar 28, 7:30 am, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 I knew i was stupid, and that if on a web site, it says that setting up 
 something is as easy as pie, then i will be fighting with the damn thing for 
 weeks on end without succeeding. This is the case with the Standscan pro. If 
 i set it up as it looks to be set up and then put my Iphone 4s on it, the box 
 will budge and start leaning towards me with the result that the iphone falls 
 off before i even can make an attempt at scanning with it. There is obviously 
 something my stupid pea sized brain can not fathom, and it's probably really 
 easy but i'm too dumb to understand it, so i guess i'll just admit defeat and 
 use a desk top scanner or something. But before i deem the Standscan pro 
 worthless, i will once more beg for help on this list. I need really simple 
 step-by-step total idiots guide to putting the standscan together, because 
 even after Annes good explanation of how to do it, i still can not get it to 
 work, it just isn't stable enough.
 /Krister

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Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean
Sorry everyone, I hit send instead of delete on that last post.
I realized my explanation would not be helpful, and probably more
confusing, so decided to delete it, but hit the wrong button.
Chuck

On Apr 4, 9:12 am, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote:
 Hi Krister,
 I had the same problem, and I have some sight. what I was missing is
 that on each side, there two flaps that need to be folded in before it
 is assembled.

 When you unfold the stand scan and have it laying flat on a table, you
 will have five rectangles, for going across and one above. The light
 strip should be all the way to the

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  Hi all.
  I knew i was stupid, and that if on a web site, it says that setting up 
  something is as easy as pie, then i will be fighting with the damn thing 
  for weeks on end without succeeding. This is the case with the Standscan 
  pro. If i set it up as it looks to be set up and then put my Iphone 4s on 
  it, the box will budge and start leaning towards me with the result that 
  the iphone falls off before i even can make an attempt at scanning with it. 
  There is obviously something my stupid pea sized brain can not fathom, and 
  it's probably really easy but i'm too dumb to understand it, so i guess 
  i'll just admit defeat and use a desk top scanner or something. But before 
  i deem the Standscan pro worthless, i will once more beg for help on this 
  list. I need really simple step-by-step total idiots guide to putting the 
  standscan together, because even after Annes good explanation of how to do 
  it, i still can not get it to work, it just isn't stable enough.
  /Krister

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big jam box updater?

2013-04-04 Thread Kliphton
Hello, how long did it take everyone's jam box to update?  Mine has been on
4 percent for 10 minutes, and it says it could take up to 5 minutes.  It
says not to close my browser, or not to turn on jam box.  So could someone
give me an idea what to do next.

 

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Re: Is it possible from Dropbox to dxport a folder of mp3 tracks into Downcast?

2013-04-04 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I would use iTunes file sharing to copy in all the files at once. Then in 
Downcast, there's a select all button you can use to import them as a group 
into a single podcast.

Best,
Anna



On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I have a folder on Dropbox with 23 mp3 tracks. I can find a way to export 
 individual tracks into Downcast, but can’t find a way to export the entire 
 folder at once.
  
 Is it possible to export a folder containing multiple tracks from Dropbox 
 into Downcast, or must I do each track separately?
  
 Thanks in advance. Keith
  
 
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Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go

2013-04-04 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Arnold,

I'm not responsible for converting books to DAISY for NBP anymore so I don't 
know for certain, but I'm quite sure the books have both text and audio. I 
don't know why Read2Go wouldn't work for you.

Best,
Anna



On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 The version of your IOS 5 book that I have says it is daisy audio, which is 
 read by their synthesizer.  I do not know if it has text in it, or not. 
 Before I got my phone, I played it on my NLS player. When I tried to get Read 
 To Go to play it, I know it was in Read To Go, it just didn't show up in the 
 list at all.  No worry.  When I buy your new book, if it won't work in Read 
 To Go either, I always can use my NLS player.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go
 
 
 Hi Arnold,
 
 I don't have that book, but I do have an earlier book produced by NBP in 
 DAISY format. I zipped it and used iTunes file sharing to add it to Read2Go. 
 It showed up in the list, and I was able to read the text with VoiceOver and 
 navigate to various sections. Sometimes I was able to play the audio, and 
 sometimes nothing happened when I pressed the Play button. I don't know why 
 that was. But at least the text was readable.
 
 HTH,
 Anna
 
 
 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 After listening to the latest Tech Doctor podcast, I am considering 
 purchasing Anna Dresner's IOS 6 book.  She said that I can read the daisy 
 version with Read To Go.  I already have the IOS 5 book, as a daisy audio 
 book, read by their synthesizer, so I decided to load it into Read To Go, 
 via iTunes, to see if it would read it.  Even after switching  off the read 
 to go voice as a reading option, it did not show up in my list of books to 
 read, on my phone, although it did show up in the list of books I had 
 transferred via iTunes, on my pc.  I know it was on my phone, the total 
 number of books increased by one, it just didn't show up in the list.I 
 transferred it as a zip file, and I know Read To Go unzipped it, because it 
 was called daisy in the transfer list on my pc.  I have temporarily deleted 
 it, via iTunes.  Any ideas what I did wrong?
 
 Thanks for any information.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 
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Re: Papasangre and wear your headphones.

2013-04-04 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

Try removing all programs from the app switcher and then loading it again. If 
that doesn't help, empty the app switcher, restart the phone, and try again.

Best,
Anna



On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Gabriel Battaglia \(Kriyaban\) iz4...@libero.it 
wrote:

 Hi all.
 I was able to play the first round of the new Papasangre app, after that I 
 got a screen with continue button something says Entrance of in somwhere 
 and play again.
 I tapped on continue button and the app presents a wide empty screen telling: 
 Wear your headphones.
 I do have the headphones on. There were no way to get rid of it: the screen 
 was just empty. I also treid to unplug and plug in again the headphones but 
 nothing change.
 Someone found him or herselve in this shoose?
 
 Gabriel. 
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RE: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go

2013-04-04 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
FYI, I got the Daisy format of both the IOS 5 and the IOS 6 update, and the IOS 
5 download did not have the text, only the audio.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner [wadres...@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go

Hi Arnold,

I'm not responsible for converting books to DAISY for NBP anymore so I don't 
know for certain, but I'm quite sure the books have both text and audio. I 
don't know why Read2Go wouldn't work for you.

Best,
Anna



On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 The version of your IOS 5 book that I have says it is daisy audio, which is 
 read by their synthesizer.  I do not know if it has text in it, or not. 
 Before I got my phone, I played it on my NLS player. When I tried to get Read 
 To Go to play it, I know it was in Read To Go, it just didn't show up in the 
 list at all.  No worry.  When I buy your new book, if it won't work in Read 
 To Go either, I always can use my NLS player.

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Reading A Daisy Book With Read To Go


 Hi Arnold,

 I don't have that book, but I do have an earlier book produced by NBP in 
 DAISY format. I zipped it and used iTunes file sharing to add it to Read2Go. 
 It showed up in the list, and I was able to read the text with VoiceOver and 
 navigate to various sections. Sometimes I was able to play the audio, and 
 sometimes nothing happened when I pressed the Play button. I don't know why 
 that was. But at least the text was readable.

 HTH,
 Anna



 On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 After listening to the latest Tech Doctor podcast, I am considering 
 purchasing Anna Dresner's IOS 6 book.  She said that I can read the daisy 
 version with Read To Go.  I already have the IOS 5 book, as a daisy audio 
 book, read by their synthesizer, so I decided to load it into Read To Go, 
 via iTunes, to see if it would read it.  Even after switching  off the read 
 to go voice as a reading option, it did not show up in my list of books to 
 read, on my phone, although it did show up in the list of books I had 
 transferred via iTunes, on my pc.  I know it was on my phone, the total 
 number of books increased by one, it just didn't show up in the list.I 
 transferred it as a zip file, and I know Read To Go unzipped it, because it 
 was called daisy in the transfer list on my pc.  I have temporarily deleted 
 it, via iTunes.  Any ideas what I did wrong?

 Thanks for any information.

 Arnold Schmidt

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Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Annie and Krister,

I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
one has to fold it are easily felt.

However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
will not hold even though they line up.

Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but
now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures.
Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu,
but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister

4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:

 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do
it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the
flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to
have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little
difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little
different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I
will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered
by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier
when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the
list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both
using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more
success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in
it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable
should be sticking out from the far left corner.
 
 Fingers crossed for you,
 Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
 
 Krister,
 
I don't think I can improve on David's excellent description, but if
I add one of my own, between us all, we might get you assembled! Indeed, if
you could find someone to help assemble, just for the first time, it would
be very useful to see how the finished thing fits together. However, if this
is difficult for you to arrange, then you must keep coming 

Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Traci
Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I thought I'd 
bring up the super reminders feature.

I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've never played 
with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.

Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to change our 
heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days before this.  I figure, 
I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go out on the Friday or Saturday to 
purchase the filter, to change it Saturday evening.

:) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up about 
something to take care of over the weekend.

Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so many options 
when setting complex reminders.
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784

HTH,
Traci
It's not too late!
You got to fight for the right cure!!!
I’ve climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
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Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Crystal French
Yes, it would be nice to see this product made of a sturdier material.

My problem was the bottom of the box kept bowing up.

I took a pattern holder/marker, which is a sheet of metal with strrips of 
magnets, and placed the sheet under the bottom of the Stand Scan.  I then just 
put the magnet strips on the bottom of the box.

It now sits niceand flat..

Crystal 



From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: 
Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Annie and Krister,

I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
one has to fold it are easily felt.

However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
will not hold even though they line up.

Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but
now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures.
Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu,
but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister

4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:

 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do
it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the
flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to
have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little
difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little
different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I
will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered
by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier
when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the
list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both
using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more
success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in
it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable
should be sticking out from the far left corner.
 
 Fingers crossed for you,
 Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin 

Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Sieghard.

It would be nice, if the box could be built in another material, but what kind 
of material would be as lightwaight and easy to carry around. It could be done 
in some sort of plastic, but when the producing will be more difficult.

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Annie and Krister,
 
 I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
 various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
 very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
 it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
 one has to fold it are easily felt.
 
 However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
 especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
 where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
 maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
 doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
 sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
 woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
 the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
 correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
 mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
 on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
 will not hold even though they line up.
 
 Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
 should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
 make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
 to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
 of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
 down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
 definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
 anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
 slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
 cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
 cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
 and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
 these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
 box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
 some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
 occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
 
 Hi,
 Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
 because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but
 now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures.
 Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu,
 but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister
 
 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
 together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do
 it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the
 flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to
 have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little
 difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little
 different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I
 will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered
 by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier
 when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the
 list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both
 using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more
 success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in
 it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable
 should be sticking out from the far left corner.
 
Fingers crossed for you,
Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: 

RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Cristobal
I'm sure some sort of poly resin would work well, but who knows about
production cost and whatnot.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the
product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Sieghard.

It would be nice, if the box could be built in another material, but what
kind of material would be as lightwaight and easy to carry around. It could
be done in some sort of plastic, but when the producing will be more
difficult.

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Annie and Krister,
 
 I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of 
 reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the 
 detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the 
 Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to 
 figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily
felt.
 
 However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of 
 tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the 
 back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new 
 production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just 
 to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my 
 store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for 
 plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and 
 all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put 
 it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place 
 where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and 
 the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the 
 side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will
not hold even though they line up.
 
 Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made 
 should be improved and possibly a different material might be required 
 to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If 
 I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even 
 in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting 
 it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in 
 my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may 
 actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. 
 Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be 
 glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they 
 would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a 
 Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box 
 out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This 
 would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make 
 one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet 
 replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to
a trade show or so where I might need it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
 
 Hi,
 Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to 
 speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen 
 their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow
and epic failures.
 Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the 
 menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister
 
 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen
annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
 together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I 
 can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be 
 sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would 
 recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was 
 in fact a little difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a 
 little
 different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think 
 I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been 
 ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it 
 is much easier when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins 
 sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to 
 the
 list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are 
 both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might 
 have 

re: Is the Sirius/XM App accessible?

2013-04-04 Thread Steve
BlankWell, unless there is a decent receiver that covers the internet 
stations as well, I know there is one but I don't know if it is accessible, 
using the SiriusXm app on the iPhone lets you access the content that you 
can't get on the satellite itself.  There are quite a few stations that are 
internet-only, including a few that used to be carried on the bird.


Is the Sirius/XM App accessible?
BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com Apr 03 04:35PM -0400

I have to add my $.02 in to this thread. First off, yes, the app is
fairly accessible but one of my major gripes about the app is the fact
that if you leave your iPhone idol after 90 minutes of listening, the
app will time out and you'll have to double tap the keep listening
button every 90 minutes. Unless you have a jailbroken iPhone because
someone in an earlier post has said that you can have continuous
playing if you do this, I'd suggest buying an actual receiver like I
did and pay for that instead. Just my $.02.


Politicians are like bananas, they enter congress green, turn yellow, and 
then they are rotten.

Steve
Lansing, MI

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Help with robo e

2013-04-04 Thread christopher
Hi does any one know how to get past level eight on robo tried every thing I 
can if some one can help I would be most grateful 

Regards Christopher huby 

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Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Chris H
Yes, Alarmed is excellent and cannot recommend it enough. Please also 
get the extras pack which is a £1.49 in-app purchase to get extra 
sounds, enable all features, etc.



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On 04/04/2013 17:54, Traci wrote:

Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I thought I'd 
bring up the super reminders feature.

I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've never played 
with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.

Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to change our 
heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days before this.  I figure, 
I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go out on the Friday or Saturday to 
purchase the filter, to change it Saturday evening.

:) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up about 
something to take care of over the weekend.

Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so many options 
when setting complex reminders.
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784

HTH,
Traci
It's not too late!
You got to fight for the right cure!!!
I’ve climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
Let’s make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers!
http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250





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RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Sieghard,

I thought it may not be a bad idea to use these round or square pieces of
Velcro on the two places that seem to be the weakest.  In my case, I find
that the 2 magnets on the left side really need to be stronger.  I mean the
back left where the wire comes out and the front left.  I'm not saying that
they are the only 2 weak magnets because I feal that they are all too weak.
What do you think of that idea?  Do you think that would help?

Also, I was thinking of your idea of making one out of plywood.  Do you
think that it would be possible to use small piano hinges to make it
foldable?

Ron  Danvers
  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product,
was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Annie and Krister,

I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
one has to fold it are easily felt.

However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
will not hold even though they line up.

Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but
now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures.
Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu,
but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister

4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:

 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do
it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the
flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to
have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little
difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little
different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I
will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered
by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier
when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins 
 sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to 
 the
list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both

Re: Help with robo e

2013-04-04 Thread cait furness
heck, I'm still stuck on level 3!
Good luck!
Cait

On 2013-04-04, at 2:21 PM, christopher christopher.h...@blueyonder.co.uk 
wrote:

 Hi does any one know how to get past level eight on robo tried every thing I 
 can if some one can help I would be most grateful 
 
 Regards Christopher huby 
 
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Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean
My Stand Scan Pro was having the same problem, so I  ran my thumb nail
along all the folds, to insure that they were creased, and would lie
flat.
Hindsight being 20 20 I think using the edge of a butter knife would
be less stressful on my thumb.

Now my Stand scan pro sets up quickly, and feels solid,
The magnets hold very wellI can pick it up and shake it and it
holds together.

Chuck


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Re: night jar

2013-04-04 Thread cait furness
that makes at least two of us.  Even if others think it's too easy, it's still 
another good audio game for us to play.
Caitlyn

On 2013-04-03, at 2:20 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Night Jar is a game made by the folks who created Papa Sangre. It involves 
 getting off a disabled starship while keeping away from extremely hostile 
 aliens.
 
 I'm excited about this one. I'm very much looking forward to it.
 
 Teresa
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:
 
 yes. I  also hope that it will be in all over the world's Itunes store. 
 
 Ming
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 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950
 
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 --- 2013年4月3日 星期三,Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com 寫道﹕
 
 寄件人: Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 主題: night jar
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2013年4月3日,星期三,上午6:51
 
 Hi,
 I heard on Applevis that the night jar will be released internationally on 
 the 23rd of April. That's 3 weeks from today. It'll be two years this month 
 since the night jar was released in the U.K. I'm excited that it'll finally 
 be released in the U.S.
 Courtney
 
 
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RE: big jam box updater?

2013-04-04 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Hi I wanted to ask is this update only for the big jambox or for the small
one as well?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: big jam box updater?

 

Hello, how long did it take everyone's jam box to update?  Mine has been on
4 percent for 10 minutes, and it says it could take up to 5 minutes.  It
says not to close my browser, or not to turn on jam box.  So could someone
give me an idea what to do next.

 

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Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
Yes.  Press the up and down arrow keys at the same time.  That is the same 
thing as a double tap to open an app if you pardon the pun.
  - Original Message - 
  From: KK2006 
  To: viphone list 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:30 PM
  Subject: Amazon basic bt keyboard


  I'm just curious before I buy it, is there a way to access and double tap the 
icons on the iPhone 4S home screen with the amazon basic?
  If so, how?  I would like to know before I spend any more money on something 
which really doesn't work...
  If not, this is a feature which I really need to be able to access from my bt 
keyboard.  Is there one that I can buy that has the double tapping capability 
directly from the bt keyboard?
  The Logitech that I have allows me to type just fine, but as far as opening 
any icons on the home screen, not at all.  Kind of pointless to me...  I've 
tried function, options, control, and I've even tried calling logitech with no 
luck...  The arrows do cycle through the icons, but I can't open them at all...
  Thanks much for any assistance!
  Kayla K

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Including Addresses in contacts

2013-04-04 Thread Donna Neff
Hi Everyone,

 

If someone can help, I would sure appreciate it.

 

My question is how to insert a complete street address for people in my
contacts.  There must be a way to do that but I can't seem to figure it out.
When I had my Nokia, it was easy but I'm stumped with the i-phone. I'm not
finding the fields to include an address.

 

Thanks much.  Any help will be gratefully received.

 

Donna

 

Donna Neff

 

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Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
You can jump from article to article by setting your rotor to headings, and 
then using a single finger flick up or down.

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T: @PKragnes
W: http://cap.umn.edu
W: http://accessibility.umn.edu

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  From: Will 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:02 AM
  Subject: Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline


  i wish though you could flick to go between articles with earl and double tap 
to select with vo on as it a nightmare hearing it all 


  On 3 Apr 2013, at 15:00, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:


Alan, NFB does not cover my local news paper and some others I want. 
However, I am not sure I will subscribe to earl. The other reason people might 
like it is that it is totally without searching around for things on the 
screen. Some might find this easier.

Neal



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

I know that Earl uses some voice-activated commands and that is different 
from the NFB Newsline app but I'm curious why anyone would pay for its 
subscription service. I would think that what's available digitally from most 
newspapers is going to be pretty fixed and that each external service getting 
access to the paper will have the same population of articles available to it. 
If that is the case, wouldn't you want the service with the lowest price 
provided the service features were comparable?

I'll admit to being new to reading newspapers with iPhone apps so I readily 
admit my ignorance up front which is why I'm posting to get comments from the 
more experienced.

Alan Lemly
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accessible Bible app

2013-04-04 Thread Van Lant Family
Hi, I'm new to the list and still pretty new to my iPhone 4.  I'm looking 
for an app to read the ESV version of the Bible on my phone.  I just 
downloded 2 apps (out of 70 some that  came up in the app store search) and 
both are inaccessible to VO.  One reads some of the icons, but not the 
important stuff.  The other was recommended by a sighted friend and seems 
cool, but won't read.


Without downloading and trying each of the other 70 some options, can anyone 
point me to one  that works?  I'd prefer the ESV translation, but would 
consider others just to have an accessible one.


Can developers make these apps accessible somehow if I were to contact them 
and ask about it?


Robin Van Lant 


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Re: another i cloud backup question, please

2013-04-04 Thread Karen Hughes
remember the five s will be out this june. karen

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  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:29 PM
  Subject: another i cloud backup question, please


  Hi,
  I am behind with things I need to do with my iPhone 4.
  I would like to do an I Cloud backup.
  When I go to the backup button, I get a message that iTunes will no longer 
automatically sync with my iphone.
  I can still do this manually, right?
  I would like to get an iPhone 5, but sure want to backup my iphone before I 
do any such thing.
  sigh
  I said I was way behind.
  Crystal 

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Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread janet smith
ahahaha or you know your addected to your I phone when you go and double tap 
the inde button on your chordless phone ahahaha




God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait 
on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- 
From: Eric Oyen

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:37 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users
Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

hehehe. here's a good one:
you know when you are addicted to the internet when… you check the 
refrigerator for email.


-eric


On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:


I was talking to my cousin on my cordless phone and as I went to hang up I
found myself doing a 2 finger double tap.to hang up the call.
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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Re: Vo calendar

2013-04-04 Thread Jos Jong
Hello all,

For your information, the update is available in the App Store.

With kind regards,

Jos Jong
VO Calendar

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Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
There is also suppose to be a speaker called the Amazing speaker.  You lay it 
on a table, stick it on a window, put it just about anywhere and what ever 
surface it's using becomes a speaker.  Just 1 goes for around 75 bucks so for 
stereo you need 2.  I just don't want to spend that much on a maybe kind of 
thing.  They say you can carry a couple in your pocket and they have a Y 
connector as well and turn your iPhone into a great stereo system.  How many 
times in my 65 years of life have I seen some gee-wiz thing that turned out to 
be all blow and no show.  Still, new times, new ideas or so said Captain Kirk 
to Doctor McCoy. grin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Doc Wright 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?


  the bose link also has speakers in the back that when placed in front of a 
wall it makes the whole wall sound like a speaker.
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?


I can't speak to the Bose link 2 but I can speak to the Bose sound dock 10. 
 Yes it has clean clear bass but even more importantly, it has a much greater 
dynamic range.  Dynamic range is what makes sound more like reality.  
Generally, it takes a great deal of power to make a wide dynamic range in an 
amp.  It appears the sound dock 10 has found a way to do it using only 2 8 inch 
speakers.  I guess maybe that's why it's like 7 hundred dollars USD.  And it 
can do it with a 128 mp3 file.  This model isn't sold at Target and other 
stores.  You have to go to a Bose store to hear it and it's heavy.  Mine I'd 
say weighs around 30 pounds.  My wife refuses to take me to the Bose store any 
more.  She's afraid.  Very afraid.  She says they have systems there over 6 
thousand and I get that glaze to my eyes when I'm in there which is why she 
comes in with me and holds the gun to my head too! smirk
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Kolwick 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?


Hello, I do not have either product, but I remember reading in some 
review, that the Bose has more base than the Jambox.  Not sure about my memory 
but the Jambox was supposed to have better mids and highs.  I do not remember 
where I read this review.



  From: Kliphton 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:28 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?


  Okay, I have owned the big jam box, wasn't blown away by like the rest of 
the general public.  Right now it is only $239.99  on amazon.  The Bose link2 
is still sitting at $299.99 and gets a smidge of a higher review.  Couple 
things to take in to context here.  The Bose link2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.  The 
Big jam box got 4.4 out of 5 stars.  The Bose has only been on the market since 
September, and the big jam box has been out since last May, almost a year.  The 
big jam box has over 1200 reviews, and the Bose link2 only has 273.  So 
personal preference is the key here.  Jam box has speaker phone, Bose link2 
does not.  Bose link shaped like a small book, big jam box shaped like a long 
rectangular box.  Jam box sound can be updated via usb cord, and sound adjusted 
with a few button presses.  Bose link has an app for the iMac, but saw nothing 
about firmware updates.  I will have the Bose link2 in my hands tomorrow, so 
will be able to see if 1 out does the other.  1 thing a lot of reviewers said 
about the jam box, that the speaker phone took some quality away from the 
sounds of their music.  Don't know, but I am not big on speaker phones anyway 
since I live in a household of 7, and want to keep my few conversations private 
anyway.  More of a tester than a talker.  Anyway, is there anyone who has owned 
both that can add to this?  If not, I will tomorrow.


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Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread janet smith

I have been laughing ll night cause of this this is too funny ahahaha



God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait 
on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- 
From: Teresa Cochran

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

Ha!!! I almost fell out of my chair. That's classic. Thanks for the laugh; I 
needed it. :)


Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:



I was talking to my cousin on my cordless phone and as I went to hang up I
found myself doing a 2 finger double tap.to hang up the call.
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Philip Kragnes
VO+space bar 

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Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:30 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I'm just curious before I buy it, is there a way to access and double tap the 
 icons on the iPhone 4S home screen with the amazon basic?
 If so, how?  I would like to know before I spend any more money on something 
 which really doesn't work...
 If not, this is a feature which I really need to be able to access from my bt 
 keyboard.  Is there one that I can buy that has the double tapping capability 
 directly from the bt keyboard?
 The Logitech that I have allows me to type just fine, but as far as opening 
 any icons on the home screen, not at all.  Kind of pointless to me...  I've 
 tried function, options, control, and I've even tried calling logitech with 
 no luck...  The arrows do cycle through the icons, but I can't open them at 
 all...
 Thanks much for any assistance!
 Kayla K
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Re: deleteing digits when dialing a phone number

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
I think we all have somebody who loves to complaine.  When their 
complaining, their happy! LOL!
- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: deleteing digits when dialing a phone number


Yes we did. It lasted a few days. Some people seem to enjoy complaining. 
My grandma, for example, was not content unless she had someone or 
something to complain about.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/04/2013, at 6:23, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think this would be the case. We didn't get any such moaning when 
the behavior of the delete key changed on the normal virtual keyboard.


On 04/03/2013 09:26 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

Then you'd be listening to people moaning about how they are
accidentally deleting numbers and how much better it was when you had to
double tap a number to delete it.

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   *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:12 PM
   *Subject:* Re: deleteing digits when dialing a phone number

   Yes, Apple has not made the phone pad consistent with the keyboard.
   I hope they change it.

   David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
   Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
   Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
   Sent from my iPhone

   On 03/04/2013, at 14:09, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com
   mailto:troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:


   How does one if making a mistake, how do they delete a digit on
   the keypad? I tried lifting my finger on the delete button but it
   doesn't delete the digit, do I need to doubletap?

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Re: Stand scan tip

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
Here is what I consider a much better option than the StandScan.  It is more 
substantial and can be used for many purposes.


Flexible Holder for iPhone and iTouch-by In Your Face (Black)
$27.25  FREE Shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Flexible-iTouch--In-Your-Face/dp/B001Q6GU7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1365008469sr=8-1keywords=iphone+in+your+face

. Spring-loaded top clamp for easy insertion/removal of iPhone or iTouch 
even with case.
. Spring-loaded bottom clamp fits flat or round surfaces up to 2-inches 
wide.

. 8-inch flexible neck with rotating top head for close up viewing
. Adjustable swivel head


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McNamara Alumni Center
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Minneapolis, MN 55455-2002
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stand scan tip



Oh!,...   Ok;  the first we heard of this idea is when a list member made
one. The thread bloomed from there, never heard it related to any other
device or market sector;  so all users are back to fixing it for 
themselves.

A fold of cardboard and duck tape would still work. I still think it being
made of something more substantial than cardboard would be a good
improvement.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: Stand scan tip


Hi Rob,

What exactly is it that should be integrated as a fundamental feature and
what target market do you mean?

The Standscan is not an iPhone specific accessory, it is made to work with
all sorts of cell phones and therefore it isn't really possible to have 
some

sort of ledge on it which is designed to line up an iPhone.

The Standscan was also not designed as a product for the blind, in fact, 
the

people who designed it and are producing it didn't even think that this
would be a useful accessory for a blind iPhone user.

Lastly, keep in mind that you are not paying $30 for a cartbord box only,
the Standscan Pro does have the LED Lights and the magnets and while none 
of

these things are very expensive, there is a design process and a
manufacturing process and the people who came up with the idea have to
recover their initial investment in time and all that. There are many 
other
examples of very simple products made from very inexpensive materials 
which
cost that much or more. Corex or Coroplast as it is also known is 
primarily

used for short-term signage and for packing material. I am not sure if it
could be folded in a way to maintain the portability of the Standscan as 
it
is now although I am no expert on this. However, I do have some signs for 
my
business made from this and while it is light, it's not as light and 
readily

foldable as laminated cartboard.


Best regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH!
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stand scan tip

This should now be integrated into the product as a fundamental 
feature,...
so hope they're reading this.  something that should have been thought of 
at

the design stage, given the targetted market.

Corex is much like cardboard, but is extruded plastic,  so the product
material could and should change too;  it still amazes me someone is 
selling

a carboard box for thirty odd bucks. That material comes in many colours,
including clearnow wouldn't that be useful.

Rh.
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com
To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:04 AM
Subject: Stand scan tip


Hi All,
While experimenting with my Stand Scan ans iPhone 4 S,I found that the
perfect location for the phone is diameter of a penny from the front
edge of the Stand Scan.

I have used rubber cement and attached two pennies along the front
edge of the Stand Scan and one penny at the top of the phone when the
camera was over the hole.

Now I just slide the phone against the pennies and I know it will be
in the proper location for a good scan.

Chuck

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Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Terra Peterson
If you press f1 it takes you to the home screen. 

Sent from my iPod Touch 5
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On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:16 AM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi Ginny,
 Yes this helps, and solves my problem for the most part!  Thank you so much 
 for your specific instructions!
 I can't figure out how to activate the home screen yet, so if you have any 
 suggestions, feel free to pass them along!
 Kindly,
 Kayla K
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 From: Jennie Facer
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard
 
 
 I have the Logitech keyboard, an I press both the up arrow and down arrow 
 together and I can activate the home screen icons.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Jenn 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I'm just curious before I buy it, is there a  way to access and double 
 tap the icons on the iPhone 4S home screen with the  amazon basic?
 If so, how?  I would like to know before I  spend any more money on 
 something which really doesn't work...
 If not, this is a feature which I really need to be able to access from my 
 bt keyboard.  Is there one that I can buy that has the double tapping 
 capability directly from the bt keyboard?
 The Logitech that I have allows me to type just fine, but as far as opening 
 any icons on the home screen, not at all.  Kind of pointless to me...  I've 
 tried function, options, control, and I've even tried calling logitech with 
 no luck...  The arrows do cycle through the icons, but I can't open them at 
 all...
 Thanks much for any assistance!
 Kayla K
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Re: Voice feedback when typing passwords

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
when characters are entered into a password field, each character is 
represented by an asterisks (star).  No character is displayed that can be 
accessed and spoken.  Hearing the character as you select/type them is the 
only identification you will receive.  There is no setting to alter this 
behavior.


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Subject: Voice feedback when typing passwords



Hi all,

Been struggling with the following for some time now. I'd like to
configure VoiceOver to speak every character when I type into password
fields. Right now I hear little clicks. I will state that I hear
letters when running online searches and alike. The iPod Touch 5th gen
manual doesn't seem to have any information regarding this setting. I
know I've heard characters spoken when typing passwords in the past,
but I must have accidentally turned off this feature. Hopefully it
will be an easy process I can turn on and off when in public, but
either way, I'd like to be able to hear what I'm typing. Thanks.

LS

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Re: Ways to read books

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
And, any other Epub books you have, you can just drop them in  books folder 
on your computer in my music folder, then iTunes, then iTunes media, and 
lastly, books.  Or just dump them in the automatically add to iTunes folder. 
Then sync your phone.  That's all there is to it.


HTH

Alan

PS:  How's Tommy doing?
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Subject: RE: Ways to read books



I appreciate the help, book is now downloading.  I should have figured it
out but, I am not a frequent flyer with iBooks,, most of what I have from
there are iPhone manuals


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ways to read books

Oops, I was a bit hasty there. Go to the IBooks store, and then to
purchases. You should see your book listed there, and a download button.
This way you won't be charged.

Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:


My problem is slightly different, I have a book I purchased last summer
before I gave my 4 to my husband, it shows up in books in iTunes 11 but

when

I go to sync I don't have an option to sync books, I'd like to get this

back
on my phone as it is an iBook and not accessible otherwise, will I have 
to

purchase it again to get it there?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Tarapprakash
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ways to read books

So what app you r using to read it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com
wrote:


I just purchased the book on Google Play. I was able to read the Preface

without any problem. If I run into any issues, I will let the group know.

I

really appreciate the group for giving me all my options. I signed up for
Kobo today. I will be reading furiously


Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes

On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:


PlayBooks by Google should work. At least, comments on AppleVis suggest
that it should. And Google itself put VoiceOver improvements, or 
something

like that, in it's app description.



Thanks,
Ari

On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com

wrote:



I just checked Kobo. They don't seem to have it. I saw it at Google
books, but can we use the iPhone to read that? It's an older book; I
think that's why it's so hard to find.

Sharonda

On 3/30/13, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Sharonda,

Another place you could try is Kobo:
www.kobobooks.com

The Kobo app is accessible as long as it's set up correctly with
page transition style set to Scrolling.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Mar 2013, at 15:04, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com

wrote:



Hello all,
I have a pretty pressing question--at least to me it is *smile* I
have been given a book recommendation. I didn't find it in the
iBookstore. I did find it at Barnes and Noble, however, it didn't
say it was a Nook Book. I would really love to read this on my

iPhone.

What other ideas and places can you give me to look? I know these
things have been discussed before, but I didn't pay as much
attention to them. Thank you all for your help.

Sharonda

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Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
Both my children are a wiz at typing on a virtual screen with their thumbs. 
my sighted wife is getting much faster at typing on it as well..  I just 
went to the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard because I can type much faster 
on it then I can on the virtual keyboard on my iPhone.
- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard


Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous 
times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes 
everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues 
to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands.


When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly 
prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They 
overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors 
decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when 
touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or 
wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from 
different sectors which show very similar results.


Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved 
critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many 
sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces 
using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders.


What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that 
we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue 
disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for 
said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works.


A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now 
does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he 
told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, 
the Bluetooth keyboard.


We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people 
studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct 
influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing 
wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out 
there or things will never change and get better.


I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting 
to remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, 
so if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so 
unreasonable to me.


On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note
taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to
develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available.

As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you
want. :-)

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net
mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Understandable.  I'm not sighted though and I want something
different, lol.

   - Original Message -
   *From:* David Chittenden mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM
   *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard

   When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering
   text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people
   overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and
   images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct
   keyboard interface.

   David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
   Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
   Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
   Sent from my iPhone

   On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
   mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:


   I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But
   there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the
   general public.

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli
   alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
   mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


   Here are the ones I've been saving.
   iOS Keyboard shortcut commands
   VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option
   General navigation
Keys  Action
VO plus left or right  Select previous or next item
VO plus up or down  Performs or move to the selected rotor option
VO plus Space  Activate the selected item. (open app, 

Re: Amazon Basic BT Keyboard Help....

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
The FN key allows the Apple function keys (top row) to be used as standard 
function keys (F1..F12).


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University of Minnesota
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W: http://cap.umn.edu
W: http://accessibility.umn.edu

- Original Message - 
From: Nimit Kaur kaur.ni...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:59 PM
Subject: Fwd: Amazon Basic BT Keyboard Help


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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:30:21 -0400
Subject: Amazon Basic BT Keyboard Help
To: accessible-...@googlegroups.com accessible-...@googlegroups.com
Cc: kaur.ni...@gmail.com

Hey all!!!  Hope u r having fun wherever you are!!!  Anyways, I just
got a bluetooth keyboard which the model is called amazon basics
bluetooth keyboard.  Well, I have been getting pretty good help there
but now, I have a question.  I know that there are four keys to the
left of the spacebar and three keys to the right of the spacebar and
the left arrow and etc etc etc etc, but I also know that there is like
blank key (one I have question and not sure about) then ctrl, then,
option, then command and spacebar, and then, command, options, and
ctrl.   Right?  Then, the first key to the very left corner of the bt
keyboard if the keyboard is facing in front of you, that has an fn on
it, what is it for?  I have used the help command and learned a lot by
pressing ctrl+ooptions+k and but it doesn't tell me anything about
that funny fn key.  Can somebody clarify that, please?  It's a nice
keyboard and I got a bunch of commands from someone that are really
helpful to me.  Thanks and have a good day.  Or night.  Or evening.
Or whatever timezone you have.  Thanks!

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Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
I've owned this app about as long as I've had my iPhone and that's going on 2 
years next month.  The developer has said in the past that he will keep the app 
accessible.  I've never even thought about using the super reminder but now 
maybe I will sense Alert Notes has a bug in it.  This gives me a good reason to 
delete the app.  Thanks again!

Alan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Traci 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:54 AM
  Subject: Super Reminders with Alarmed


  Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I thought I'd 
bring up the super reminders feature.


  I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've never played 
with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.


  Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to change our 
heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days before this.  I figure, 
I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go out on the Friday or Saturday to 
purchase the filter, to change it Saturday evening.


  :) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up about 
something to take care of over the weekend.


  Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so many 
options when setting complex reminders.
  https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784


  HTH,
  Traci

  It's not too late!
  You got to fight for the right cure!!!
  I’ve climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
  Let’s make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers!
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RE: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

2013-04-04 Thread Rizzino, Bonnie
Oh my,
The Pirates even mess up voiceover.

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Behalf Of David Gross
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:15 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

I appreciate all the suggestions and help offered on yesterday's post.
Turns out a call from mlb tech support said because I chose the
Pirates as my favorite team, the team page was causing the voice over
issue. If I had chosen any of the other 29 teams nothing would have
gone wrong. Everyone have a good MLB season.

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Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with Voiceover support got an update

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
That assumes though that you have selected vertical navigation on in the 
rotor selection menu


Settings, General, Accessibility, Voice Over, Rotor, Here is a list of items 
you can add or remove from the rotor.  Single finger double tap to select or 
deselect.


HTH
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From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with Voiceover support got an update


You just use the rotor at any point, turning your thumb and forefinger as 
if you are on a radio dial,  until it says vertical navigation.


HtH,
Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Tess tess...@gmail.com wrote:


How do you turn voice over nagation on?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with VoiceOver support got an update

Hi,

I was mildly surprised to find that the virtical navigation worked
with this game.  In most instances I have found it to be virtually
useless.  For instance, I tried to use it in other table-oriented
applications, such as Numbers, and it was completely useless.

In the Robo-E game it works quite well though.

Thanks,

Denny

On 4/3/13, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote:

Hi Christopher,
Thanks for the suggestion turning Vertical Navigation on
When the rotor is set to this option, the user experiences control of
VoiceOver which is similar to using arrow keys on a desktop computer.
Flicking up/down moves the user up/down, while flicking left/right

continues


to move the user horizontally. This feature will be especially helpful 
to

those who frequently navigate with VoiceOver via a connected BluTooth
keyboard, as well as in grid-based games or table layouts.

The feature, interestingly, ignores artificial boundaries, meaning that 
if
you navigate upward from the top row of a Home screen, you will find 
that

VoiceOver focus has moved to the status bar.

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Re: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'm debating with myself should I get the iPhone 5-S this summer or wait for 
the iPhone 6 with IOS 7 on it in 2014.
- Original Message - 
From: Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?



A friend asked Siri where babies came from and it explained it.
Another friend told Siri I don't like Siri and it answered, Okay, I'll
remember that.
I don't have it either, one of these days,, maybe.
Patti





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?

Wow! Getting dumped by your own phone sucks heh? LOL!
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?



The other day when I asked if she'd mary me she said let's just be
friends, ok? I replied back but I don't want to be just friends and then
she said fine!
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?



Wow, the old brush off!  That sucks when your phone turns you down
doesn't it! LOLOLOLOL!  That's funny!  I can't wait to get an updated
phone.
- Original Message - 
From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: being silly with cerie wasRe: how smart Siri?



When I asked if she'll mary me She said that's sweet Troy, is there
anything else I can help you with?
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?



So there are no bodies berried then! LOL!

Ask her if she'll marry you and tell me what she says.  I've heard
that's pretty funny.  I'm looking forward to getting a new iPhone some
time this summer to get in on the action too! grin
- Original Message - 
From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?



lol I just did and she told me I didn't find any places.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?



And once you ask where are the bodies berried, what does she say?  I
have only an iPhone 4.
- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?



You should ask her to make you a sandwich, or if she will be your
girlfriend. There are many funny things you can ask Siri and some
will just give you funny responses, while others will find nearby
places which might match what you are looking for. One of my
favorites is, Where are the bodies buried?

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Just witnessed an ant crawl under one of my keys. Don't worry, It's
under CTRL. - Sheldon Cooper
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 3/26/2013 7:23 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

I asked what is for breakfast and she told me to go to Denny's
which was the
closest to me then listed four other places, most of which I have
not heard
of.  I was in a weird mood that morning.  It is probably about the
only
silly question I have asked her.

I wanted to see if she would tell me bacon and eggs or cereal.  I
did not
have either at the time but...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On



Behalf
Of Troy Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?

I also like to ask cerie silly stuff just to see what she says.
- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?



Ray, I suggest you give some thought to going to
http://www.applevis.com
and look at what they have to offer. There are podcasts on a
number of
apps and I'm betting the Iphone and Siri as well. Also, you might
try
checking the archives for things like Siri commands or just Siri.
Also you


might just do a search for Siri on google and see what you come 
up



with,
you might be pleasantly surprised.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: how smart Siri?



thank you sir.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On

the log history in iphone

2013-04-04 Thread Steve Man
hello
where could I find the history of calls last month or latter
also is there any free apps could do this
any help would be appreciated

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digest mail every day

2013-04-04 Thread Steve De Spiegeleire
Hi,

My name is Steve and I'm new on this group.

I wish to receive a digest mail everyt day.

I've tried to sent a mail to viphone+dig...@googlegroups.com, but without any 
result.

Could you tell me how to fix this?

thx in advence,

best regards,

Steve De Spiegeleire

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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Re: another i cloud backup question, please

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
Once you enable and backup with iCloud, you will not have acess to iTunes WiFi 
sync.  However, you can still use iTunes by connecting your iPhone to your 
computer using the USB  cable.

Philip M Kragnes, M.S.
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  From: Crystal French 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:29 PM
  Subject: another i cloud backup question, please


  Hi,
  I am behind with things I need to do with my iPhone 4.
  I would like to do an I Cloud backup.
  When I go to the backup button, I get a message that iTunes will no longer 
automatically sync with my iphone.
  I can still do this manually, right?
  I would like to get an iPhone 5, but sure want to backup my iphone before I 
do any such thing.
  sigh
  I said I was way behind.
  Crystal 

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Re: Braille Touch and texting

2013-04-04 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Alan, I would like to spoil your bubble about texting to email addresses 
they can be done. So here's the steps to do it. Going to compose, and once 
you're in compose cheese however you want to find the person contact, then when 
she found their email address Tap on it then going to the text field partes to 
type your message type it, and then hit send..

Vice president
of the Texas school for the blinds Zello channel , phone, 641-715-3900 
extension 34315, or 588-7652.
Email, jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 No you cannot send a text message to an email address through the texting 
 iPhone app.  There is software out there which lets you send a text message 
 to an email address but not that I know of for the iPhone.  The idea of a 
 text message is it's short and you don't need to open an email program.
 - Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado 
 reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: Braille Touch and texting
 
 
 Brings up a question. When texting, is it the phone number that is wanted, 
 (always used phone numbers), or can a text be sent with email address?
 
 Reggie and Allegra, my little pill
 
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sandy,
 You also said that when you select text message from the BrailleTouch menu,
 you are in your Contacts?
 That doesn't happen for me.  I land in the regular text message window in
 the To field.
 
 I type in enough characters to get a match for the person I want to send it
 to, double tap their name in the list that comes up and then double tap on
 Send, where I am put back into the BrailleTouch app.
 
 If you are indeed landing in Contacts, then something is setup very
 differently on your iPhone.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sandy Finley
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:15 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Braille Touch and texting
 
 Caleb, Richard and others,
 
 I think Richard may have helped uncover something.  Using Braille Touch, I
 texted myself and I got the message and I obviously have an iPhone.
 I then tried to text my husband, whom I text for often than anyone else,
 who has a droid and message failed. And yes, I am able to text him without
 BT with no difficulty.
 I then texted an iPhone-owning  good friend (one I know is up and about at
 this early hour) and he got it.
 
 I can type a message and put it in the clipboard, go to Messaging and
 address the usual way and paste from the clipboard, but I'd like to cut out
 those steps. Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrailleTouch
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Braille Touch and texting
 
 Hi Sandy,
 I'm sorry you are having trouble texting with BrailleTouch. It sounds like
 you are doing everything correctly. Please try sending a message to the same
 person directly from the phone number in your iPhone address book without
 using BrailleTouch. If that works, please try closing BrailleTouch from the
 app switcher and restarting, or try restarting your iPhone.
 
 I hope this helps. Please feel free to email me directly if it still doesn't
 work for you.
 
 Best wishes,
 Caleb
 http://brailletouchapp.com/
 
 
 On 4/1/2013 8:37 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
 I still cannot text with Braille Touch. here is what I do:
 1. Type the message.
 2. Flick left and find the text message option. I double tap it and land
 in my contacts.
 3. I navigate to the recipient's info; I find the mobile number and double
 tap. It seems that the number is in the correct place so I tap send.No dice.
 I go to  messaging and get an indication of message failure but the
 failure message has the recipient's name in it! What am I doing wrong?
 
 Sandy
 
 
 Typed with BrailleTouch
 
 
 Sandy Finley
 
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Thoughts/questions om the Djay and Muxic apps

2013-04-04 Thread Shane clark
Hi,
I just bought the Djay app, and have been reading up on the Muxic App. Which 
one of the two is better? A friend of mine said they both are good. 
My other questions are: I bought Djay for 99 cents, but I see there is one for 
I believe $2.99 what does the one for $2.99 do vs the $0.99 one? Is there a 
podcast for Djay? I haven't been able to find one. I see where you can 
record... Where does that music go, and does it take up space on your phone, or 
is it stored in the Djay app music folder?
Thanks. 

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RE: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Lemly
Well, I finally got smart and realized that since there is an app out there
for just about everything, surely my local newspaper had one. They confirmed
that they had not one but two. I tried them both and found that one works
very well with VO and now I have access to the entire paper. I just checked
NFB Newsline at 11pm my time and noticed the number of articles is much
greater than it was this morning but they still don't appear to have the
entire paper. So I'll use the paper's app.

Thanks for all the helpful comments to my original question.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

That could be what I'm noticing with the Statesman. My sighted wife 
usually reads the paper in the morning, and when she points out an 
article to me, I'll go try to find it in Newsline, and I'll frequently 
not find it there.

On 04/03/2013 01:32 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hi there. One thing I have noticed with the Houston Chronicle and with the
various AP newspapers is that they are updated regularly and newsline
reflects those changes daily. So for example if I start reading today's
newspaper and it shows me 10 local news articles, then I read it later on
this evening it will show more articles. I have not compared to the actual
newspaper so I do not know if it is showing me all the articles available.

 On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I've noticed that with the Austin American Statesman, the number of
articles in NFB Newsline is just a subset of the articles in the actual
paper. I seem to recall hearing that these papers, the Statesman being one
of the examples, changes the format of their digital markup fairly regularly
so Newsline is always playing catch up. I haven't found the normal on line
version of the Statesman accessible at all, and I wonder how Newsline
compares with other apps that give you access to the Statesman.

 On 04/03/2013 12:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hello Don. What do you find are some of the differences between your
 local newspaper in reality versus what NFB newsline has to offer? Also
 just so you know, your message came through at the end of the message
 you reply to instead of on top. Most people prefer that replies go on
 top to make them easier and quicker to read with speech. Thanks.

 On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Donald L. Roberts
 donald.robert...@gmail.com mailto:donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:


 On April 2, Alan Lemly wrote:

 I know that Earl uses some voice-activated commands and that is
 different from the NFB Newsline app but I'm curious why anyone would
 pay for its subscription service.

 I for one will do so because NFB Newsline's representation of some
 newspapers is little more than a bad joke. When I compare the Newsline
 version of my local paper to the actual newspaper, it just frustrates
me.

 Don Roberts



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Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
I think when I got the app it was only a few days more that I spent the 99 
cents and bought it.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed


Yes, Alarmed is excellent and cannot recommend it enough. Please also
get the extras pack which is a £1.49 in-app purchase to get extra
sounds, enable all features, etc.


Christopher Hallsworth
E-mail and Facebook:
challswor...@sky.com
Skype:
chrishallsworth7266
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/@christopherh40
Find my blog at
challsworth2.wordpress.com

On 04/04/2013 17:54, Traci wrote:
Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I thought 
I'd bring up the super reminders feature.


I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've never 
played with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.


Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to change 
our heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days before this.  I 
figure, I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go out on the Friday or 
Saturday to purchase the filter, to change it Saturday evening.


:) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up about 
something to take care of over the weekend.


Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so many 
options when setting complex reminders.

https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784

HTH,
Traci
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I’ve climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
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Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
The second from the left on the very top row of keys takes you to the home 
screen.

HTH
  - Original Message - 
  From: KK2006 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard


  Hi Ginny,
  Yes this helps, and solves my problem for the most part!  Thank you so much 
for your specific instructions!
  I can't figure out how to activate the home screen yet, so if you have any 
suggestions, feel free to pass them along!
  Kindly,
  Kayla K
- Original Message - 
From: Jennie Facer 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Amazon basic bt keyboard



I have the Logitech keyboard, an I press both the up arrow and down arrow 
together and I can activate the home screen icons.


Hope this helps,


Jenn 
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


  I'm just curious before I buy it, is there a way to access and double tap 
the icons on the iPhone 4S home screen with the amazon basic?
  If so, how?  I would like to know before I spend any more money on 
something which really doesn't work...
  If not, this is a feature which I really need to be able to access from 
my bt keyboard.  Is there one that I can buy that has the double tapping 
capability directly from the bt keyboard?
  The Logitech that I have allows me to type just fine, but as far as 
opening any icons on the home screen, not at all.  Kind of pointless to me...  
I've tried function, options, control, and I've even tried calling logitech 
with no luck...  The arrows do cycle through the icons, but I can't open them 
at all...
  Thanks much for any assistance!
  Kayla K

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Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard

2013-04-04 Thread Stacey Robinson
Kayla,
You want to press control and option at the same time you press other keys.

On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:24 AM, KK2006 wrote:

 Also, what is this control option?  I'm not understanding here, do you mean 
 a function key of sorts?  I'm assuming that this is what you mean but if not, 
 maybe that's why I'm not getting my bt keyboard to work...
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
 
 When VO is active, keyboard commands are available. They use the control 
 option (VO) key combination to work. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Everyone has their preference.  Not ever having bought a bt keyboard before, 
 I was unawhare that this feature was not available at all and that I would 
 still have to use my iPhone home screen to activate icons.
 Keep in mind, that some of us are just not as informed.
 Now that I know, I will *use what's available.**
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
 
 Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note taker 
 PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to develop 
 one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available.
 
 As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, You can want all you 
 want. :-)
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, KK2006 kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Understandable.  I'm not sighted though and I want something different, lol.
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard
 
 When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering text into 
 edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people overwhelmingly prefer 
 directly interacting with visual icons and images on the touch-screen over 
 working through a less direct keyboard interface.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But there 
 has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the general public.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Here are the ones I've been saving.
  
 iOS Keyboard shortcut commands
  
 VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option
  
 General navigation
  
  Keys  Action
  VO plus left or right  Select previous or next item
  VO plus up or down  Performs or move to the selected rotor option
  VO plus Space  Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
  VO plus H  Go to home screen
  VO plus H 2 times  Open/close multitask pane
  Escape  Go back, cancel, close pop-up
  Cmd plus Tab  Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous
  VO plus A  Read all from first object in selected area
  VO plus B  Read all from selected item
  VO plus M  Move to status bar
  VO plus I  Open Item Chooser for current area
  VO plus F  Search and go to match with Enter
  VO plus G  Next search match, hold Shift for previous
  
 Handling VoiceOver
  
  Keys  Action
  Control  Pause/resume speech
  VO plus S  Toggle speech off/on
  VO plus Shift plus S  Toggle Screen Curtain on/off
  VO plus Cmd plus up or down  Adjust the selected speech rotor option
  VO plus Cmd plus left or right  Change the speech rotor setting
  VO plus / (slash)  Add label to selected item
  VO plus K  Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit
  
 Quick Nav Commands
  
 Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left plus right 
 keys at the same time
  
 Keys  Action
  up plus down  Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
  left or right  Selects the previous or next item
  up or down  Performs or move to the selected rotor option
  up plus left or right  Change to next or previous rotor setting
  Option plus left or right  Move to next or previous horizontal 
 screen/page
  Option plus up or down  Move/scroll up or down the screen/page
  Control plus up or down  Select the first or last item in the area
  Control plus left or right  Go to next or previous container/area
  
 Safari Web Shortcuts
  
 Hold Shift for previous
  
 Keys  Action
  H  Next heading
  1 to 6  Next respective heading level 1–6
  L  Next link
  S  Next text element
  W  Next landmark
  R  Next text field
  X  Next list
  T  Next table
  M  Next element of same type
  I  Next image
  B  Next button
  C  Next form element
  
 
 Other keyboard commands with 

Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with VoiceOver support got an update

2013-04-04 Thread Philip M Kragnes
although I am not familiar with the particular puzzle game, there is a way 
to move up and down a column.  You will need to add Verticle navigation to 
your rotor, if it is not already there.  Add it by following these steps.

1. Open Settings.
2. Open General
3. Open Accessibility
4. Double-tap the VoiceOver button
5. Open Rotor Settings
6. Locate Verticle Navigation and double-tap it

Now, when you are in the puzzle app and you want to move to the space below 
your current position, turn the rotor to vertical Navigation and perform a 
single-finger swipe down.  Move up the column with a single-finger swipe up. 
Hope this helps!


Philip M Kragnes, M.S.
Computer Accommodations Program
University of Minnesota
McNamara Alumni Center
200 Oak Street SE, Suite 180
Minneapolis, MN 55455-2002
P: 612-626-0365
F: 612-626-9654
E: p...@umn.edu
T: @PKragnes
W: http://cap.umn.edu
W: http://accessibility.umn.edu

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with VoiceOver support got an update


Hi, Denny,

You'll probably hate it when I say this, but it does take practice. You will 
get instant feedback if you go to the wrong squares. I've heard of folks 
using rubber bands crossed around the device or tape. Somehow, I actually 
don't seem to have that tracking problem very much.


As for swiping, if you swipe to the side, you'll get a double tone at the 
end of each row. Personally, I have trouble remembering spatial details, so 
that method wouldn't work well for me.


HtH,
Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Denny Schwab denny.sch...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

That process works for now, but, at least for me, it tends to be not
very reliable; I tend to touch diagonal squares more often than not.

It seems that having a way to flick up and down, to reach the squares
directly above or below your current one, like flicking left and right
will get you to the ones next to your current square, would be a
really good addition to this game.

At my current level, level 7, it is not that big of a deal, but I
think it will become more of an issue as the puzzles become more
complex.

Thanks,

Denny

On 4/3/13, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote:

Hi Denny,
I play Robo-E by moving my index finger around on the screen. Just think 
of


it as a braill page and each cell of braille is a word, wall, ball ring
etc.
You do have to swipe the screen to move Robo-E and to push the ball into 
the


rings.
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Denny Schwab denny.sch...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Robo-E, puzzle game with VoiceOver support got an update 
move

Robo-E to push the ball.




Hello,

I just downloaded this game yesterday and am finding it quite
interesting.

My main question is how do the majority of people on this list
navigate the puzzle?  It seems pretty hard to figure out the layout
using VoiceOver.  The only ways I can see to review the layout is to
swipe left and right, or to touch the screen in different places.
There doesn't seem to be any way to flick up and down to review
verticly.  This makes it very hard to get a good idea of exactly how
the layout is.  It is way too easy, I am finding, to touch the wrong
square as you try to see what is directly above, or below, another
square.

Anyone else have a better way to review the layout?

If the developer is on the list, can they let us know why a flick up
and down option can't be put in, so that it is easier to get the
overall layout down?

Thank you,

Denny


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Re: accessible Bible app

2013-04-04 Thread Paul Ferrara

Try biblegateway or youversion.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Van Lant Family

Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible Bible app

Hi, I'm new to the list and still pretty new to my iPhone 4.  I'm looking
for an app to read the ESV version of the Bible on my phone.  I just
downloded 2 apps (out of 70 some that  came up in the app store search) and
both are inaccessible to VO.  One reads some of the icons, but not the
important stuff.  The other was recommended by a sighted friend and seems
cool, but won't read.

Without downloading and trying each of the other 70 some options, can anyone
point me to one  that works?  I'd prefer the ESV translation, but would
consider others just to have an accessible one.

Can developers make these apps accessible somehow if I were to contact them
and ask about it?

Robin Van Lant

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Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Traci
Yes, the extras package also unlocked day minders.  Great for those folks 
taking medication or needing to check on something frequently.

I once used the day minder when exercising.  I wanted to switch activities 
every fifteen minutes.  I set the day minder to go off every fifteen minutes 
for an hour.  Pretty excellent!

Traci
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On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 I've owned this app about as long as I've had my iPhone and that's going on 2 
 years next month.  The developer has said in the past that he will keep the 
 app accessible.  I've never even thought about using the super reminder but 
 now maybe I will sense Alert Notes has a bug in it.  This gives me a good 
 reason to delete the app.  Thanks again!
  
 Alan
 - Original Message -
 From: Traci
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:54 AM
 Subject: Super Reminders with Alarmed
 
 Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I thought I'd 
 bring up the super reminders feature.
 
 I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've never played 
 with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.
 
 Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to change our 
 heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days before this.  I figure, 
 I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go out on the Friday or Saturday to 
 purchase the filter, to change it Saturday evening.
 
 :) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up about 
 something to take care of over the weekend.
 
 Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so many 
 options when setting complex reminders.
 https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784
 
 HTH,
 Traci
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Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?

2013-04-04 Thread Traci
Any chance anyone is a fan of classical music?  I'd love to learn of sound 
tests with these speakers with classical music.

Traci
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On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:

 There is also suppose to be a speaker called the Amazing speaker.  You lay it 
 on a table, stick it on a window, put it just about anywhere and what ever 
 surface it's using becomes a speaker.  Just 1 goes for around 75 bucks so for 
 stereo you need 2.  I just don't want to spend that much on a maybe kind of 
 thing.  They say you can carry a couple in your pocket and they have a Y 
 connector as well and turn your iPhone into a great stereo system.  How many 
 times in my 65 years of life have I seen some gee-wiz thing that turned out 
 to be all blow and no show.  Still, new times, new ideas or so said Captain 
 Kirk to Doctor McCoy. grin
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Doc Wright
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?
 
 the bose link also has speakers in the back that when placed in front of a 
 wall it makes the whole wall sound like a speaker.
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?
 
 I can't speak to the Bose link 2 but I can speak to the Bose sound dock 10.  
 Yes it has clean clear bass but even more importantly, it has a much greater 
 dynamic range.  Dynamic range is what makes sound more like reality.  
 Generally, it takes a great deal of power to make a wide dynamic range in an 
 amp.  It appears the sound dock 10 has found a way to do it using only 2 8 
 inch speakers.  I guess maybe that's why it's like 7 hundred dollars USD.  
 And it can do it with a 128 mp3 file.  This model isn't sold at Target and 
 other stores.  You have to go to a Bose store to hear it and it's heavy.  
 Mine I'd say weighs around 30 pounds.  My wife refuses to take me to the Bose 
 store any more.  She's afraid.  Very afraid.  She says they have systems 
 there over 6 thousand and I get that glaze to my eyes when I'm in there which 
 is why she comes in with me and holds the gun to my head too! smirk
 - Original Message -
 From: John Kolwick
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?
 
   Hello, I do not have either product, but I remember reading in some 
 review, that the Bose has more base than the Jambox.  Not sure about my 
 memory but the Jambox was supposed to have better mids and highs.  I do not 
 remember where I read this review.
  
 
 From: Kliphton
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Bose link2, or jawbone big jam box?
 
 Okay, I have owned the big jam box, wasn’t blown away by like the rest of the 
 general public.  Right now it is only $239.99  on amazon.  The Bose link2 is 
 still sitting at $299.99 and gets a smidge of a higher review.  Couple things 
 to take in to context here.  The Bose link2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.  The Big 
 jam box got 4.4 out of 5 stars.  The Bose has only been on the market since 
 September, and the big jam box has been out since last May, almost a year.  
 The big jam box has over 1200 reviews, and the Bose link2 only has 273.  So 
 personal preference is the key here.  Jam box has speaker phone, Bose link2 
 does not.  Bose link shaped like a small book, big jam box shaped like a long 
 rectangular box.  Jam box sound can be updated via usb cord, and sound 
 adjusted with a few button presses.  Bose link has an app for the iMac, but 
 saw nothing about firmware updates.  I will have the Bose link2 in my hands 
 tomorrow, so will be able to see if 1 out does the other.  1 thing a lot of 
 reviewers said about the jam box, that the speaker phone took some quality 
 away from the sounds of their music.  Don’t know, but I am not big on speaker 
 phones anyway since I live in a household of 7, and want to keep my few 
 conversations private anyway.  More of a tester than a talker.  Anyway, is 
 there anyone who has owned both that can add to this?  If not, I will 
 tomorrow.
 
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Re: accessible Bible app

2013-04-04 Thread Corey Michael Cook
Biblegatway 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Van Lant Family vanlant2...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi, I'm new to the list and still pretty new to my iPhone 4.  I'm looking for 
 an app to read the ESV version of the Bible on my phone.  I just downloded 2 
 apps (out of 70 some that  came up in the app store search) and both are 
 inaccessible to VO.  One reads some of the icons, but not the important 
 stuff.  The other was recommended by a sighted friend and seems cool, but 
 won't read.
 
 Without downloading and trying each of the other 70 some options, can anyone 
 point me to one  that works?  I'd prefer the ESV translation, but would 
 consider others just to have an accessible one.
 
 Can developers make these apps accessible somehow if I were to contact them 
 and ask about it?
 
 Robin Van Lant 
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Re: accessible Bible app

2013-04-04 Thread Vicki Meizinger
I have one downloaded on my 4s iphone. it just said bible on it in the 
app store. i t has a lot of translations, and they are verry 
accessible.  I believe about 15.  All are not read in audible but some 
are. some are for off-line listening and some online. it is not as 
complicated as it sounds, it is really easy when you do it.


How, here is my other downloaded bible.  It is a king james, read 
audible by a verry wonderful male reader.  you can also choose to read 
something in voiceover instead. I have both and would recommend both.  
This second one is from itour software where they have the same bible 
with a lot ofextra thing which we cannot read, helps and so-forth, and 
on which is the basic bible.  I hope you are able to enjoy them.

Vicki Meizinger

On 4/4/2013 1:11 AM, Van Lant Family wrote:
Hi, I'm new to the list and still pretty new to my iPhone 4.  I'm 
looking for an app to read the ESV version of the Bible on my phone.  
I just downloded 2 apps (out of 70 some that  came up in the app store 
search) and both are inaccessible to VO.  One reads some of the icons, 
but not the important stuff.  The other was recommended by a sighted 
friend and seems cool, but won't read.


Without downloading and trying each of the other 70 some options, can 
anyone point me to one  that works?  I'd prefer the ESV translation, 
but would consider others just to have an accessible one.


Can developers make these apps accessible somehow if I were to contact 
them and ask about it?


Robin Van Lant


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Re: accessible Bible app

2013-04-04 Thread Carol Pearson
Most people on list who want a good Bible app use thE Bible app which is still 
the first in my list, searching for Bible. If you read the info, you should 
read something about LifeChurch Bible. You don't have to sign up, but it's 
really useful (because of interaction with the site) which makes it worthwhile.
The second, Bible Gateway, is also popular.

I did try the OliveTree one but I think that's very graphical and I didn't get 
it to work.

It's a bit late now but I can probably help more tomorrow. Write on list, or me 
personally if you wish, with any questions.

Regards and I trust you'll soon be up and running!
 



carol P
Sent from my iPod

On 4 Apr 2013, at 06:11 AM, Van Lant Family vanlant2...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi, I'm new to the list and still pretty new to my iPhone 4.  I'm looking for 
 an app to read the ESV version of the Bible on my phone.  I just downloded 2 
 apps (out of 70 some that  came up in the app store search) and both are 
 inaccessible to VO.  One reads some of the icons, but not the important 
 stuff.  The other was recommended by a sighted friend and seems cool, but 
 won't read.
 
 Without downloading and trying each of the other 70 some options, can anyone 
 point me to one  that works?  I'd prefer the ESV translation, but would 
 consider others just to have an accessible one.
 
 Can developers make these apps accessible somehow if I were to contact them 
 and ask about it?
 
 Robin Van Lant 
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Re: Including Addresses in contacts

2013-04-04 Thread Jennie Facer
If you keep flicking right, you will find the address field. There is one, just 
keep flicking.

Jenn

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 Hi Everyone,
  
 If someone can help, I would sure appreciate it.
  
 My question is how to insert a complete street address for people in my 
 contacts.  There must be a way to do that but I can't seem to figure it out. 
 When I had my Nokia, it was easy but I'm stumped with the i-phone. I'm not 
 finding the fields to include an address.
  
 Thanks much.  Any help will be gratefully received.
  
 Donna
  
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Re: big jam box updater?

2013-04-04 Thread Les Kriegler
This update is for the big jam box only.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi I wanted to ask is this update only for the big jambox or for the small 
 one as well?
  
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 Hello, how long did it take everyone’s jam box to update?  Mine has been on 4 
 percent for 10 minutes, and it says it could take up to 5 minutes.  It says 
 not to close my browser, or not to turn on jam box.  So could someone give me 
 an idea what to do next.
  
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RE: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

2013-04-04 Thread Donald Moore
See, you could have stayed in Albany and rooted for the Mets!!

You and Art be proud!!

mo...@donaldmoore.org


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Subject: RE: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

Oh my,
The Pirates even mess up voiceover.

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To: Viphone
Subject: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

I appreciate all the suggestions and help offered on yesterday's post.
Turns out a call from mlb tech support said because I chose the Pirates as
my favorite team, the team page was causing the voice over issue. If I had
chosen any of the other 29 teams nothing would have gone wrong. Everyone
have a good MLB season.

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RE: Stand scan tip

2013-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Philip,

Yes, something like this could work, but it doesn't solve the problem of
distance, light and having reference points and edges which help you to make
sure the phone is lined up and square to your text. The Standscan is a great
idea and I immediately got a fantastic scan result when I scanned a page of
text, certainly way beyond anything I was ever able to get before.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Philip M Kragnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stand scan tip

Here is what I consider a much better option than the StandScan.  It is more
substantial and can be used for many purposes.

Flexible Holder for iPhone and iTouch-by In Your Face (Black)
$27.25  FREE Shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Flexible-iTouch--In-Your-Face/dp/B001Q6GU7Y/ref=sr_1_1
?ie=UTF8qid=1365008469sr=8-1keywords=iphone+in+your+face

. Spring-loaded top clamp for easy insertion/removal of iPhone or iTouch
even with case.
. Spring-loaded bottom clamp fits flat or round surfaces up to 2-inches
wide.
. 8-inch flexible neck with rotating top head for close up viewing .
Adjustable swivel head


Philip M Kragnes, M.S.
Computer Accommodations Program
University of Minnesota
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stand scan tip


 Oh!,...   Ok;  the first we heard of this idea is when a list member made
 one. The thread bloomed from there, never heard it related to any other
 device or market sector;  so all users are back to fixing it for 
 themselves.
 A fold of cardboard and duck tape would still work. I still think it being
 made of something more substantial than cardboard would be a good
 improvement.

 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:32 AM
 Subject: RE: Stand scan tip


 Hi Rob,

 What exactly is it that should be integrated as a fundamental feature and
 what target market do you mean?

 The Standscan is not an iPhone specific accessory, it is made to work with
 all sorts of cell phones and therefore it isn't really possible to have 
 some
 sort of ledge on it which is designed to line up an iPhone.

 The Standscan was also not designed as a product for the blind, in fact, 
 the
 people who designed it and are producing it didn't even think that this
 would be a useful accessory for a blind iPhone user.

 Lastly, keep in mind that you are not paying $30 for a cartbord box only,
 the Standscan Pro does have the LED Lights and the magnets and while none 
 of
 these things are very expensive, there is a design process and a
 manufacturing process and the people who came up with the idea have to
 recover their initial investment in time and all that. There are many 
 other
 examples of very simple products made from very inexpensive materials 
 which
 cost that much or more. Corex or Coroplast as it is also known is 
 primarily
 used for short-term signage and for packing material. I am not sure if it
 could be folded in a way to maintain the portability of the Standscan as 
 it
 is now although I am no expert on this. However, I do have some signs for 
 my
 business made from this and while it is light, it's not as light and 
 readily
 foldable as laminated cartboard.


 Best regards,
 Sieghard


 Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of RobH!
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Stand scan tip

 This should now be integrated into the product as a fundamental 
 feature,...
 so hope they're reading this.  something that should have been thought of 
 at
 the design stage, given the targetted market.

 Corex is much like cardboard, but is extruded plastic,  so the product
 material could and should change too;  it still amazes me someone is 
 selling
 a carboard box for thirty odd bucks. That material comes in many colours,
 including clearnow wouldn't that be useful.

 Rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com
 To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:04 AM
 Subject: Stand scan tip


 Hi All,
 While experimenting with my Stand Scan ans iPhone 4 S,I found that the
 perfect location for the phone is diameter of a penny from the front
 edge of the Stand Scan.

 I have used rubber cement and attached two pennies along the front
 edge of the Stand Scan and one penny at the top of the phone when the
 camera was over the hole.

 Now I just slide the phone against the pennies and I know it will be
 in the proper 

Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Chuck and All,

I am not so sure that I would shake the StandScan. I beliele that the wire for 
the cable that  connects to the lights  is fragil. I need to observe this some 
more, but I think I have a loose connection. With the amount of light 
perception, I noticed that the light wasn't on. I did some trouble shootingu 
and came to the conclusion that the wire connected to the lights is fragil and 
needs some TLC so the StandScan will last. I am thinking that this device is a 
great device, but maybe it wasn't ready for prime time. Like others, I would 
like to see the StandScan manufacture in a more durable material. JMO.

Best, 
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote:

 My Stand Scan Pro was having the same problem, so I  ran my thumb nail
 along all the folds, to insure that they were creased, and would lie
 flat.
 Hindsight being 20 20 I think using the edge of a butter knife would
 be less stressful on my thumb.
 
 Now my Stand scan pro sets up quickly, and feels solid,
 The magnets hold very wellI can pick it up and shake it and it
 holds together.
 
 Chuck
 
 
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RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello ron,

I am sure it could be done, but if you wanted this to be portable you would
have to use 1/8 inch plywood and even then it would probably be much heavier
than the Standscan.

I guess as early adopters you always run into the problem that the product
you bought might be improved and you end up with a version that is not as
good as that which is made after feedback and improvements are implemented.

Harry sent me an email today saying that the new production run is made from
thicker cartbord which is laminated on both sides hence is more durable and
that they use magnets that are 180% stronger and they also improved the
location of the notch for the cable. Oh well, it's still a good product and
I at least will mostly use it at home where I don't mind if the thing is
just setup and has a few pieces of tape on it.

I assume a few strategically placed Velcro strips might help for those of us
where the magnets don't work all that well.


Regards,
Sieghard




slightly thicker
heavier by a multiple

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the
product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Sieghard,

I thought it may not be a bad idea to use these round or square pieces of
Velcro on the two places that seem to be the weakest.  In my case, I find
that the 2 magnets on the left side really need to be stronger.  I mean the
back left where the wire comes out and the front left.  I'm not saying that
they are the only 2 weak magnets because I feal that they are all too weak.
What do you think of that idea?  Do you think that would help?

Also, I was thinking of your idea of making one out of plywood.  Do you
think that it would be possible to use small piano hinges to make it
foldable?

Ron  Danvers
  


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product,
was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Annie and Krister,

I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
one has to fold it are easily felt.

However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
will not hold even though they line up.

Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
because the magnets aren't 

RE: digest mail every day

2013-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Steve,

Sign in to the list website, link is at the bottom of each message.
Make sure you are signed in with your google account.
Find the My Settings button, then there is an option to edit your mail and
list settings and here you find the setting where you can change how you
receive messages from the list, e.g. single emails, digest, no mail etc.
Not sure which screenreader you use, but it's all very accessible with jaws.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: digest mail every day

Hi,

My name is Steve and I'm new on this group.

I wish to receive a digest mail everyt day.

I've tried to sent a mail to viphone+dig...@googlegroups.com, but without
any result.

Could you tell me how to fix this?

thx in advence,

best regards,

Steve De Spiegeleire

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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Re: digest mail every day

2013-04-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Have you tried following the link at the bottom of each email message on 
this list, namely http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en


I'm not sure what screen reader you're using, but with Orca and Firefox, 
I can click on the pull down menu labeled My Settings right above the 
list of messages for this group and then select the option for 
membership and email settings. At this point, I have to use review mode 
to select digest mode, but Sieghard says this is pretty accessible with 
JAWS.


On 04/04/2013 12:54 PM, Steve De Spiegeleire wrote:

Hi,

My name is Steve and I'm new on this group.

I wish to receive a digest mail everyt day.

I've tried to sent a mail to viphone+dig...@googlegroups.com, but without any 
result.

Could you tell me how to fix this?

thx in advence,

best regards,

Steve De Spiegeleire

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RE: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

2013-04-04 Thread Neal Ewers
There is another difference between NFB Newsline and Earl. Earl can not go
beyond a pay wall. So, if a news paper has a subscription, you won't see it
on Earl, even if you have a subscription to this paper. NFB gets
complimentry subscriptions because the newsline is non-proffit. Earl is
managed by a for profit company unless I am mistaken, and there would likely
be a greater user cost to subscribe to Earl if they had to pay for
subscriptions. By the way, I have them both, so this is not a plug for one
or the other.

Neal

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Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

Well, I finally got smart and realized that since there is an app out there
for just about everything, surely my local newspaper had one. They confirmed
that they had not one but two. I tried them both and found that one works
very well with VO and now I have access to the entire paper. I just checked
NFB Newsline at 11pm my time and noticed the number of articles is much
greater than it was this morning but they still don't appear to have the
entire paper. So I'll use the paper's app.

Thanks for all the helpful comments to my original question.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

That could be what I'm noticing with the Statesman. My sighted wife usually
reads the paper in the morning, and when she points out an article to me,
I'll go try to find it in Newsline, and I'll frequently not find it there.

On 04/03/2013 01:32 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hi there. One thing I have noticed with the Houston Chronicle and with 
 the
various AP newspapers is that they are updated regularly and newsline
reflects those changes daily. So for example if I start reading today's
newspaper and it shows me 10 local news articles, then I read it later on
this evening it will show more articles. I have not compared to the actual
newspaper so I do not know if it is showing me all the articles available.

 On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I've noticed that with the Austin American Statesman, the number of
articles in NFB Newsline is just a subset of the articles in the actual
paper. I seem to recall hearing that these papers, the Statesman being one
of the examples, changes the format of their digital markup fairly regularly
so Newsline is always playing catch up. I haven't found the normal on line
version of the Statesman accessible at all, and I wonder how Newsline
compares with other apps that give you access to the Statesman.

 On 04/03/2013 12:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Hello Don. What do you find are some of the differences between your 
 local newspaper in reality versus what NFB newsline has to offer? 
 Also just so you know, your message came through at the end of the 
 message you reply to instead of on top. Most people prefer that 
 replies go on top to make them easier and quicker to read with speech.
Thanks.

 On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Donald L. Roberts
 donald.robert...@gmail.com mailto:donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:


 On April 2, Alan Lemly wrote:

 I know that Earl uses some voice-activated commands and that is 
 different from the NFB Newsline app but I'm curious why anyone 
 would pay for its subscription service.

 I for one will do so because NFB Newsline's representation of some 
 newspapers is little more than a bad joke. When I compare the 
 Newsline version of my local paper to the actual newspaper, it just 
 frustrates
me.

 Don Roberts



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Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

2013-04-04 Thread Kyle Seitz

This is getting a little silly and non productive.  Just a thought.

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From: janet smith

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Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

I have been laughing ll night cause of this this is too funny ahahaha



God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait
on the blessing he has in store for me!
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From: Teresa Cochran

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Subject: Re: I just self-diagnosed myself with IPhoneitist

Ha!!! I almost fell out of my chair. That's classic. Thanks for the laugh; I
needed it. :)

Teresa
On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:


I was talking to my cousin on my cordless phone and as I went to hang up I
found myself doing a 2 finger double tap.to hang up the call.
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Any ideas where I could look for rare earth magnets in my area? Do hardware 
stores carry these sorts of things?

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: 
Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi Annie and Krister,

I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the
various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions
very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow,
it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where
one has to fold it are easily felt.

However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape
especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner
where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so
maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't
doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is
sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby
woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at
the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it
correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly
mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and
on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger)
will not hold even though they line up.

Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made
should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to
make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were
to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort
of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it
down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would
definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this
anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe
slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the
cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the
cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it
and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with
these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down
box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after
some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the
occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

Hi,
Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak,
because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but
now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures.
Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu,
but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister

4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com:

 Hi.
 
 Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them
together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do
it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the
flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to
have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little
difficult.
 
 I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little
different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I
will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered
by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier
when you will have to fold it again.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 
 Annie,
 
 Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the
list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both
using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more
success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in
it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable
should be sticking out from the far left corner.
 
 Fingers crossed for you,
 Sandy. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved

2013-04-04 Thread Daniel Miller
I'm confused, how does selecting the Pirates only mess up VoiceOver?
On Apr 4, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Donald Moore don.moor...@comcast.net wrote:

 See, you could have stayed in Albany and rooted for the Mets!!
 
 You and Art be proud!!
 
 mo...@donaldmoore.org
 
 
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 Of Rizzino, Bonnie
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved
 
 Oh my,
 The Pirates even mess up voiceover.
 
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 Of David Gross
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:15 AM
 To: Viphone
 Subject: MLB at-bat accessibility issue resolved
 
 I appreciate all the suggestions and help offered on yesterday's post.
 Turns out a call from mlb tech support said because I chose the Pirates as
 my favorite team, the team page was causing the voice over issue. If I had
 chosen any of the other 29 teams nothing would have gone wrong. Everyone
 have a good MLB season.
 
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RE: google maps not talking

2013-04-04 Thread DJ
I too prefer MapQuest.  It gives highly accurate voice guidance while
driving or walking, and works in the lock screen or while using other apps.
It even works while I'm on the phone, giving me directions through the ear
piece.  It's more accessible than Google Maps as well.

DJ


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google maps not talking

Jim, it's been a long while since I have used Google Maps, but I believe you
have to make sure that the driving directions option is checked before the
app will talk.  I wish I could explain the disappearance of the Action
Results button.  I have found that button essential for speech.  Like
David, I have had accessibility issues with Google Maps.  I switched to
MapQuest and find it generally works well.  The buttons are labeled with
understandable indicators.
MotionX and Navigon also get high marks for accessibility.

Craig

On 4/3/13, Jim Shaffer jjs78...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used to be able to use google maps while in our car to speak the 
 directions as we drove.  I am no longer able to do that.

 As I remember I clicked on a button labeled something like Actions 
 for result, and it would start speaking.  That button no longer 
 exists.  Has there been an interface change brought about by an update or
something?
 Has anyone else seen this, and found a way to get google maps talking 
 again?

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Re: Super Reminders with Alarmed

2013-04-04 Thread Jeff Samco
I also particularly like the Day Minder feature. I use it to remind 
me two extra times, 15 minutes apart, for when I need to take some 
medication. That way I can pass on the first alarm and know I will 
still be reminded 2 more times.

Jeff

At 02:13 PM 4/4/2013, you wrote:
Yes, the extras package also unlocked day minders.  Great for those 
folks taking medication or needing to check on something frequently.


I once used the day minder when exercising.  I wanted to switch 
activities every fifteen minutes.  I set the day minder to go off 
every fifteen minutes for an hour.  Pretty excellent!


Traci
It's not too late!
You got to fight for the right cure!!!
I've climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
Let's make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers!
http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250



On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Alan Paganelli 
mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.netalanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


I've owned this app about as long as I've had my iPhone and that's 
going on 2 years next month.  The developer has said in the past 
that he will keep the app accessible.  I've never even thought 
about using the super reminder but now maybe I will sense Alert 
Notes has a bug in it.  This gives me a good reason to delete the 
app.  Thanks again!


Alan
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From: mailto:our4p...@gmail.comTraci
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Super Reminders with Alarmed

Hi all, I know the list has discussed this app a few times, but I 
thought I'd bring up the super reminders feature.


I've used this part of the app several times, but the part I've 
never played with is the pre-alarm options.  Here's the alarm I created.


Remind me every 3 Months, on the first Saturday of the Month, to 
change our heater filter.  I set the pre-alarm to go off 2 days 
before this.  I figure, I'll be reminded on Thursdays, and I can go 
out on the Friday or Saturday to purchase the filter, to change it 
Saturday evening.


:) I was pleased with these options.  A clever way to get heads up 
about something to take care of over the weekend.


Here is the URL for the app.  I highly recommend it.  There are so 
many options when setting complex reminders.

https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784https://itunes.apple.com/app/id371886784

HTH,
Traci
It's not too late!
You got to fight for the right cure!!!
I've climbed 1311 steps, and you can donate here!
Let's make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers!
http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250




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MusicDropNPlayLite

2013-04-04 Thread Rob

I am checking out the free version of
MusicDropNPlayLite
this app aplays music from your dropbox.
the links below may wrap. you may need to copy them and paste in your 
browser.


It works ok, but once I point it to a directory of music in my dropbox, 
the only way I can choose another directory is to remove the app from 
the app switcher, and restart the app.

I'm thinking that this may be the limitation of the free version.
check it out!

MusicDropNPlayLite
Free

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/musicdropnplaylite-for-dropbox/id612547933?mt=8
$2.99
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/musicdropnplay-for-dropbox/id604656186?mt=8


Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

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RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Keith,

I am not sure where you are, but I would just google it. Amazon probably has
them, I definitely know that Lee Valley Tools has them which is where I buy
mine. Lee Valley Tools is a Canadian company which sells woodworker
supplies, tools, all sorts of specialty hardware and so on. Their website is
www.LeeValleyTools.com. When you first go to the website you have only 4
links to choose from:
En - for English, Canada
Fr - for French, Canada
US - for the United States
Int - if you are an international customers outside of North America.

It's one of those stores where as a woodworker I should not go too often,
I've spend many thousands of Dollars there over the years. Here are a few
link for some of the rare earth magnets they have:

Rare Earth Circular Magnets:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32065cat=1,42363,42348
Here a bit of a blurb about their qualities, the largest 1 inch diameter
magnetwill ift a 30 pound block of steel:
Until you have actually used rare-earth magnets, you cannot appreciate their
strength. Rare-earth magnets achieve maximum attractive force when
sandwiched between two pieces of steel.
The 1/4 diameter by 1/10 thick magnet will lift a 2.5 lb block of steel;
the 1/2 diameter one will lift a 9 lb block - see the chart at right. It
all has to do with the electron array in the neodymium, the rare earth they
are made from. 
There are hundreds of uses for these magnets - from holding keys or wrenches
on machines to making fridge magnets. Nickel plated with slightly rounded
edges, they can be glued in place with almost any glue (epoxy is the most
secure).
The 3/4 and 1 dia. magnets are so powerful that only people with very
strong hands can separate them without using an aid of some kind. This
presents a handling problem for us, so we sell them only in bundles of five,
with instructions for simple separation methods. 
The 3/4 inch magnet will lift a 22 pound block of steel and the 1 inch size
a 30 pound block.
The odd one may have a minor chip in it since collisions can happen easily
at these power levels.

Rare Earth Ring Magnets:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=40075cat=1,42363,42348
These are shaped like a washer with a hole in the middle and various outside
and inside diameter options are available.
 
Oh, and they are cheap, too, the quarter inch is 36 Cents a piece if you buy
less than 10, then they are 29 Cents, the 3/8 inch ones are 58 Cents and 46
Cents and the half inch ones are 85m Cents and 80 Cents, but those would be
way too strong for the purpose of holding the Standscan together.
I still have 8 of the quarter inch ones and I'll see if tomorrow I can
replace some of the ones that don't work with them and I'll report back as
to how it worked.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: another i cloud backup question, please

2013-04-04 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

iTunes Wi-fi sync still works when iCloud backup is enabled. For some reason, 
it doesn't always work when I try it, but I've used iTunes file sharing and 
other similar features via wi-fi many times even though automatic backup to 
iCloud is on.

Best,
Anna



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 Once you enable and backup with iCloud, you will not have acess to iTunes 
 WiFi sync.  However, you can still use iTunes by connecting your iPhone to 
 your computer using the USB  cable.
 
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 From: Crystal French
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:29 PM
 Subject: another i cloud backup question, please
 
 Hi,
 I am behind with things I need to do with my iPhone 4.
  
 I would like to do an I Cloud backup.
  
 When I go to the backup button, I get a message that iTunes will no longer 
 automatically sync with my iphone.
  
 I can still do this manually, right?
  
 I would like to get an iPhone 5, but sure want to backup my iphone before I 
 do any such thing.
  
 sigh
  
 I said I was way behind.
  
 Crystal
 
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Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline

2013-04-04 Thread shane . johnson
 Hi Neal and all involved in this thread,

I am one of the principals at Angle the maker of Earl, out of respect for 
the forum I am not going to plug Earl but answer some of the questions in 
this thread.  

We update the content selections every six hours.
We do not go through paywalls.
We offer other online content then just newspapers.  We decided that 
newspapers were pretty restrictive so we have content from places like 
cnn.com, foxnews.com and other news websites.  We have also started to add 
more long form content from magazines, the atlantic is a good example of 
this.  All non-local content can be found under the national selection in 
the favorites menu.

We are also for profit.

Did I leave anything out?

Regards

Shane


On Thursday, April 4, 2013 3:43:19 PM UTC-7, Neal Ewers wrote:

 There is another difference between NFB Newsline and Earl. Earl can not go 
 beyond a pay wall. So, if a news paper has a subscription, you won't see 
 it 
 on Earl, even if you have a subscription to this paper. NFB gets 
 complimentry subscriptions because the newsline is non-proffit. Earl is 
 managed by a for profit company unless I am mistaken, and there would 
 likely 
 be a greater user cost to subscribe to Earl if they had to pay for 
 subscriptions. By the way, I have them both, so this is not a plug for one 
 or the other. 

 Neal 

 -Original Message- 
 From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf 
 Of Alan Lemly 
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:10 AM 
 To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: RE: Earl vs. NFB Newsline 

 Well, I finally got smart and realized that since there is an app out 
 there 
 for just about everything, surely my local newspaper had one. They 
 confirmed 
 that they had not one but two. I tried them both and found that one works 
 very well with VO and now I have access to the entire paper. I just 
 checked 
 NFB Newsline at 11pm my time and noticed the number of articles is much 
 greater than it was this morning but they still don't appear to have the 
 entire paper. So I'll use the paper's app. 

 Thanks for all the helpful comments to my original question. 

 Alan Lemly 

 -Original Message- 
 From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf 
 Of Christopher Chaltain 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:31 PM 
 To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: Re: Earl vs. NFB Newsline 

 That could be what I'm noticing with the Statesman. My sighted wife 
 usually 
 reads the paper in the morning, and when she points out an article to me, 
 I'll go try to find it in Newsline, and I'll frequently not find it there. 

 On 04/03/2013 01:32 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: 
  Hi there. One thing I have noticed with the Houston Chronicle and with 
  the 
 various AP newspapers is that they are updated regularly and newsline 
 reflects those changes daily. So for example if I start reading today's 
 newspaper and it shows me 10 local news articles, then I read it later on 
 this evening it will show more articles. I have not compared to the actual 
 newspaper so I do not know if it is showing me all the articles available. 
  
  On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
  chal...@gmail.comjavascript: 

 wrote: 
  
  I've noticed that with the Austin American Statesman, the number of 
 articles in NFB Newsline is just a subset of the articles in the actual 
 paper. I seem to recall hearing that these papers, the Statesman being one 
 of the examples, changes the format of their digital markup fairly 
 regularly 
 so Newsline is always playing catch up. I haven't found the normal on line 
 version of the Statesman accessible at all, and I wonder how Newsline 
 compares with other apps that give you access to the Statesman. 
  
  On 04/03/2013 12:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: 
  Hello Don. What do you find are some of the differences between your 
  local newspaper in reality versus what NFB newsline has to offer? 
  Also just so you know, your message came through at the end of the 
  message you reply to instead of on top. Most people prefer that 
  replies go on top to make them easier and quicker to read with speech. 
 Thanks. 
  
  On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Donald L. Roberts 
  donald.r...@gmail.com javascript: 
  mailto:donald.r...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  
  On April 2, Alan Lemly wrote: 
  
  I know that Earl uses some voice-activated commands and that is 
  different from the NFB Newsline app but I'm curious why anyone 
  would pay for its subscription service. 
  
  I for one will do so because NFB Newsline's representation of some 
  newspapers is little more than a bad joke. When I compare the 
  Newsline version of my local paper to the actual newspaper, it just 
  frustrates 
 me. 
  
  Don Roberts 
  
  
  
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Words with friends

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Moore
It's words with friends and accessible game? I'm interested in playing it with 
a few friends and I'm wondering if this is something I can do.

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Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Bill Gallik
Folks, I am NOT typically a whiner about prices; but in the case of the 
ScanStand I feel horribly ripped off.  I paid $27.00 for what is essentially a 
shoe box with a flashlight built into it.  And not a very sturdy shoe box at 
that!  This is not a product I’d recommend to anybody.

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Re: digest mail every day

2013-04-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Steve, I'm one of the viphone list moderators. I've updated your 
subscription to digest for the viphone list.


I hope that helps.

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On 4/4/2013 12:54 PM, Steve De Spiegeleire wrote:

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My name is Steve and I'm new on this group.

I wish to receive a digest mail everyt day.

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Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Bill Gallik

Here are some thoughts I have:

- Substitute material should not be any plastic because the heat generated 
by lighting would likely warp it.

- aluminum flashing framed by lightweight angle aluminum (maybe ź)
- mount lighting a bit off the framing to prevent overheating metal and 
burning users
- wing sheet metal screws to fasten flashing to framing for quick 
assembly/disassembly


This would probably add to the cost of producing the product; make it about 
worth $30; I'd anticipate the most expense would be drilling the holes for 
wing sheet metal screws into the flashing and framing to align properly


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Re: another i cloud backup question, please

2013-04-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure it's been announced by Apple when the 5S, if that's what 
it'll be called, will be released. Based on past history it could be in 
the summer or in the fall, but again, this is just more speculation. 
Just pointing this out so no one makes a decision based on the 5S coming 
out this June and ends up being disappointed.


On 04/03/2013 06:25 PM, Karen Hughes wrote:

remember the five s will be out this june. karen

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*Subject:* another i cloud backup question, please

Hi,
I am behind with things I need to do with my iPhone 4.
I would like to do an I Cloud backup.
When I go to the backup button, I get a message that iTunes will no
longer automatically sync with my iphone.
I can still do this manually, right?
I would like to get an iPhone 5, but sure want to backup my iphone
before I do any such thing.
sigh
I said I was way behind.
Crystal

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Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat

2013-04-04 Thread Bill Gallik
I personally believe that piano hinges and plywood would make for a very 
stable non-portable product.  But plywood would tend to be a bit heavy and 
awkward; not for many I'm sure, but I suspect a notable number of folks 
would find plywood construction a bit too bulky.  The idea of the piano 
hinges is an excellent thought; I had considered adding that to my aluminum 
version, but I think that may add a bit of unnecessary cost to a production 
run.


And, I wonder if graphite material might not serve as a sturdy, lightweight 
possibility as well.


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